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April 29, 2025 • 79 mins

In this episode, Ben and Spence discuss the recent NFL Draft, focusing on the Pittsburgh Steelers' picks and their implications for the team's future. They celebrate a milestone with a YouTube plaque, share personal anecdotes, and analyze the draft strategy, emphasizing the importance of physicality and team dynamics. The conversation also touches on the potential impact of Aaron Rodgers on the team and the Cleveland Browns' confusing quarterback situation. In this conversation, Spencer discusses the implications of Shadeur Sanders' draft experience, the pressures of being a high-profile player, and the overshadowing of other talented athletes. The discussion shifts to the business side of football, particularly regarding contracts and the Steelers' draft strategy. Finally, Ben shares insights about the Illuminations organization, which aims to end Bible poverty by translating the Bible into various languages, emphasizing the importance of spreading the gospel.

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