January 6, 2025 • 62 mins
Roz ferociously claws her way into the new year with the help of the hilarious actor, comedian, and writer Jon Gabus! With an unquenchable thirst for the paranormal, the two discuss cryptids, a haunted park in New South Wales, and Gabrus’s eerie drive up Long Island's Mt. Misery Road.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky, joky,
I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait
a minute, I said, I los nandaz Plice. Hey boo,
(00:28):
it's me Roz and welcome to Ghostard by Roz Hernandez.
Happy New Year. I sat down with John Gabriis, the
hilarious comedian actor. I'm just gonna warn you right off
(00:50):
the bat, this is this conversation gets it's is sexual
in nature, but holy sha is he funny. And you
know I do every once in a while I like
to represent the underrepresented voices here at Ghosted, that being
(01:11):
heterosexual men, and there's a short list of them that
we have on here. But when we do we get
some good ones. And this is a funny one, this
John Gabrius. So you're gonna want to stick around. But
if you're one of those people that's like, I love
listening to you with my kids. No, not this one. Okay,
(01:35):
before we get into that, I do have a story
i'd like to share with you. This one comes from
Justin Justin Wrights. Here's the backstory to this story. My
grandmother was my biggest support during my tumultuous life. She
(01:55):
raised me for the first four years until my mother
decided to move to another state. Throughout the years, she's
proven time and time again that she's there for me,
even to this day. Last night, I was having a
rough time due to partner issues. I woke up and
was having trouble getting back to sleep, so I decided
(02:18):
to finish up a podcast I had started. I fell
asleep listening around three AM, and your show started to
auto play because it was next on my list. While
the episode with Detox was playing, I had the most
vivid dream. I was moving my car for some reason,
(02:38):
and lo and behold, my grandma comes strolling out of
the house. In life, she was blind and a bit frail,
but here she was lively and giddy to see me.
She got in the car and we started talking. Instantly
I felt better here she was showing up to be
my rock yet again. Weird part of the dream was
(03:01):
that since your show was playing, somehow you made it
with me to see my grandma. You came outside and
asked us what we heard on the EVP or ev police.
Then I woke up. There's more to it, but it
sounds weird writing it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
All out.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I don't recall what Grandma said, but she always seems
to show up when I need her, and this time
you happen to be there for that experience. Thank you, Ah, Justin.
I'm honored to be there with your grandmother and you.
That is such a sweet story. I'm obsessed with When
(03:39):
this has happened multiple times over the years, A few times,
just a few where people send me dreams that I
end up in. I'm obsessed. You know. I don't want
to open it up to people. Send me all of
your dreams. If it involves me, that changes, it changes
(04:00):
things for me. So if it does involve me and
it's paranormal in nature, send it on over because I'm
I'm absolutely honored to make a cameo in your in
your sleep state. Thank you, Justin. Okay, let's get into
(04:21):
this conversation. I haven't left this hard in a minute.
Oh my god, here we go my conversation with John
Gabris and with the show.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
John Gabriel, Hi, Roz, thank you for having me. Thanks
for doing this.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
On January sixth, I know my favorite holidays today for
us over here.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, we're recording advance, so maybe I'm the j Johnstone
of the Liberal J six and I'm getting arrested right now.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Wow, Yeah, that's interesting. Huh that guy went to prison.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Huh, I believe so. Unfortunately Jimmy Pesto and mister show
sketch cast member is in jail. Unfortunately for him, only
he shouldn't have been there. Yeah, you don't get arrested
if you're not there rioting.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
That's that's a good point. I do want to know
what you think of aliens. Everyone keeps bringing up aliens to.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Me interesting, I definitely think, and not to you know,
immediately attack the conceit of the show. But in my mind,
aliens are more realistic than ghosts, which I don't know
if there's a competition, Okay, in my.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Mind alienating my audience.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I seem to think that it's more likely that there
are aliens than ghosts. But that being said that that
doesn't discount I don't think that there isn't the ghosts necessarily.
I just think aliens is more likely, And that might
be just like annoying science brain of like, there's got
to be other species that we don't understand out there,
and hell, who knows, maybe ghosts are just some weird aliens.
(06:16):
And then I think we talked about this on my
episode on your episode of my show too, because I'm
obsessed with like what the human brain is capable of,
and like what it could potentially what we might be
misinterpreting from our own brain in ways, you know what
I mean, like trying to explain phenomena that we experience
because the brain is a complex computer, and then we
(06:37):
apply it to like a haunting or an alien abduction,
or a past lives or regression or you know, I'm
communicating with the dead, like all those things are possible.
But it's hard not to discount the power of the brain.
Like if you do any hallucinogens, You're like, well, my
brain can do things that I'm not prepared for totally.
But that's okay, But what is the difference at that point?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
True, I agree with all the different The one the
one time where I'm like, wait a minute, is when
it's like a hotel somebody goes to the front desk
and they're like, oh my god, I just have to
tell you in the middle of the night, and then
the personal looks to the front desk is like the
man with the beard, ye white suit.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That's hard. Yeah, that's hard to parse, you know what
I mean? Like that is like, is there a man?
Is there Colonel Sanders hanging out in your room? Exactly?
Extra crispy, I didn't hear you. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
There's a documentary I just watched on Netflix. I have
to look up what it was called. It's called like
the Manhattan UFO something, and it's like this, lady to
check it out. It's you gotta watch it. It's it's
one of these things where luckily now they make it
(08:03):
three parts.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You said it seven or eight, Yeah, where it's like, dude,
and they're made for such dummies too, and it's like
like previously on and then it's like eight minutes, and
then at the end of the episode, they're like next
on and it's another eight minutes. And then you're like
this so much overlap. You're telling me the same details.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Over and over it exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
But a three parter is nice. I just watched the
three part on The Gray's Anatomy Writer who Lied, and
that one I forgot.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I stopped watching. Okay, I need to go back to that.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I had a last watching. Okay, Yeah, I think you
will too.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yes, because the woman. She said that she had cancer,
and she also lied about a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
She kept lying. She kept just meeting people and stealing
their stories and like just adding them to her life.
She went to like PTSD camp because she said she
was at the Tree of Life synagogue shooting and she wasn't.
PTSD camp doesn't make sense. She went to like PTSD rehab. Okay,
PTSD cam. Things aren't much better now.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So this is called the Manhattan Alien Abduction and it's
three parts. It could be one and a half. But
it's about this woman that believes she was abducted in
Manhattan out of her window.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh my god, it never happens to Manhattan nights, I know,
because it is always like the stereotype or the pattern
is like country bumpkin like ra.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Where no one else can see it. Yeah, but this
there's all these people that came out claiming that they
also saw her, like floating out of her window. WHOA,
which would be so creepy if all of a sudden
you just see this lady just like floating out of
your window in the middle of the night, like.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
When Luke Perry did it to Buffy and the Buffy
in the movie.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Uh, you know, I'm not a Buffy person.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Oh, I mean, I don't think, don't know, right, Yeah,
it feels wrong, it feels but you're not missing much.
The movie is a lot of fun. The show is
really good too. But yeah, yeah, I'm not going to
sit here, and I just it's distinct in my head
of Luke Perry floating outside the window, you know, rip
to a real one.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, gorgeous, although I.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Was a Brian Austin green guy. If we're going to
get into it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Let's not fight. Let's but let's give people so far,
your watch list is old clips of January sixth.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yes, gotta just go to my YouTube page. I cut
together some sizzle reels of of guys with fucking chin
beards beating cops with a flagpole. It's it's the light,
gorgeous Democracy Alive on camera.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And also the Manhattan Alien Abduction, the Anatomy of a Lie,
Anatomy of a Lie, and the Buffy movie. Correct Now,
I agree that aliens are easier to wrap my head around,
or seem more logical.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Right, a little more explainable, a little more scientifically explainable.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
See, but we don't like science here.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Oh, Okay, one of these don't do that all right. Creationism, Yeah,
we believe God made dinosaurs, aliens, and humans all on
the same day.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Same day. Yes, and that's what we teach at my church.
And I would like you to join.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I am on board. I was an atheist till I
found out you had a church. Now I am on board.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
How do you feel about cults, because I do feel
very vulnerable to I'm just waiting.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know, I am one. I would say, I would
like to think I could sniff out that I was
being like, but I'm also the guy who like dedicated
his life to improv for twenty years, so like little cults.
I mean it's also people got like laid because of cults,
you know, like there is an afrail to cults. I
don't understand why I spent so much money and so
(11:57):
much time performing for improv. So if I'm capable full
of that, or I also did CrossFit for a while,
I get caught up in fast Okay, So I think
a cult could easily grab me, especially if all of
a sudden, it's like, you know, busty women are like, yes,
you're you know, once you're initie, I'm like you got it, lady,
I'm on board.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Okay, this is good for me to know because I
might start when.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Again I'll be a rosinite from the day once.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Okay, So let's go to ghosts though, please. So ghosts
are and we talk about all this stuff on this podcast.
We don't shy away from the moth Man, we don't.
We get into all of it, and we do.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
We believe in cryptozoology here. Yes, I'm a fan. I
think that's I think that's a worthwhile study.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Talk to me about crypto zoology.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's like the study of cryptids, like you know, the
magical monsters, the Bigfoot, the lock Ness, moth Man and
all that stuff, and that that feels again like something
that's possibly explainable via science or it's completely possible that
there is like a Bigfoot esque individual that lives or
a group of them that lives somewhere in the United
(13:14):
States and we just don't catch them all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
See. But that's always the thing. It's like, okay, but
where is it?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Right? Is it in an alien And I know I've
been I've got went down a rabbit hole of people
who were talking about Bigfoot and dog men sightings, dogmen
is a man, and so I've been I listened to
a lot of first hand accounts of these people, and
they start to talk a little bit about like portals
and like dimension doors and like these are interdimensional creatures
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and shit. So it starts to lose me. I mean,
I'm on board for the sci fi of it all,
but it starts to lose me as like, you know,
I like to think that there's like a cave where
it's like I'm just a weird mutation of a beast
that can talk and has hairy nipples and I live
do it, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
But see that's the only way, as crazy as the South,
that is the only way for me to believe it
is if it is like an alien or something that
could discipline.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
More likely than in like an undiscovered species of like oh,
yeah you've heard of the grizzly bear, but did you
know about Bigfoot?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Or so I always think about like these people that
dedicate their life to trying to fight Bigfoot. So what
if one day they just like found him?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, that's what you do the fact that no one
has makes it seem like we're doing something wrong, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Like, but if you did find him, You're like, oh hey,
and then Bigfoot's like hey, like who are you? And
then just like oh, my name's like Stephen or whatever.
And then and then you're like the Bigfoot's like how
much do you know about me? And then and then
Stephen has to be like not like they want to.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Act cool, like well, I mean like we've I've heard
of you. I'm not like I'm not I'm not hosting
a TV show called Finding big Foot.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
And then they become friends and then Bigfoot realizes, oh
my god, this person is obsessed with me. This person
has footprints of me, and that are you know, carved
out of.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
This person just wants to measure my big foot hug
so bad. Yes, Like that's the crazy thing is that,
like we have not seen the petrified Bigfoot cockyin You
would think there should be more evidence of the you know,
but I live like by that Nature will continue to
surprise us like itself. Now. I understand that Bigfoot or
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these scriptives could be interdimensional beings or even uh you know,
mass hallucinations or some version of aliens or paranormal kind
of situation, but part of me also just wants to
believe that Mother Nature is capable of some stuff that
we don't fully understand. Yes, yes, like that bottom of
the ocean.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Shit, like what's going on down there?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
God only knows. I'm so sessed with the detail that
someone said the ocean is as undiscovered as outer space.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yes, and that is what is the percent? How much
of the ocean do we know? It's so shocked, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
So and then there's like full on like you know,
the Mariana Trench or whatever it's called, and there's just
like super deep parts of the ocean that we have
no idea what's going on down there?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And show Marianna Trench with her Mariana Trench coming to
the stage. She is undiscovered. Honey, wait ocean ocean percentage
that we have discovered.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Please read out your search bar for it. I have to.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Because i've I've I've recently heard this.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, it's like one percent or something.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
It says a mere five percent of the global ocean
has been explored and less than ten percent mapped using
modern own art technology. And that's from science dot HowStuffWorks
dot com.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
That is ninety percent of the ocean is undiscovered. That
is terrifying, absolutely terrifying.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
But since I really care about my listeners. I am
going on a gay cruise next week, and I will
I'll go down there and I'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Roz, what are you doing? You just like casually put
on like cute snorkel mask and dive off.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You guys, they only know five percent?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Wait, I think this is like the six percent here,
I know, let's dive off.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
All of a sudden, I come back up and I'm like,
we now know seven percent, holding up some weird crab
that no one never saw before. Cash, Well, I still
need to talk to you about ghosts.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, please, have you seen one? I don't think so.
I have not ever seen a ghost. I've experienced like
a recurring dream from when I was a kid that
is still kind of stuck with me of an older
black woman with a head wrap who kind of looked
at me through windows all the time when I was sleeping,
and I would have like that, like I'm stuck on
(18:10):
the bed, I can't and she's looking at me, and
she would like just and it stopped when I moved
houses as a kid. I moved when I was like thirteen,
So I think there was some attachment to a like
a restless soul or a you know, some somebody, somebody
(18:30):
that I used to know was living in that in
that house, I think, and I think that might be
my closest thing to a girl. And I am believe me,
I am open minded to go. So you know, I'm
trying to I'm trying to find them. I'm listening. I
don't go to a lot of haunted hotels and stuff,
because that might be I might psych myself up too much.
I know that's like your.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Forte don't get in my No.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I objectively cannot say exactly please to me. And four
LGB we need one straight guy.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, that that is interesting. So only when you were
living in this house, you would have a dream that
this woman was outside of your bedroom window.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, And or randomly there'd be like a porthole in
the door and it wasn't like not a real thing
that existed, like a hole in like a window in
my door, and she would be like looking through it.
And I remember specifically she would like, I keep doing
this head gesture because she would like kind of slowly
spin around a little, but I could only really see
her head and it was like it was she had
like a head wrap on or you know, like I
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think I would have called it a turban when I
was a kid, and now I would just use the
term head rap because it didn't have like that specific pattern.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Are you trying to pitch a sitcom?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You and this lady? Me and Mama ghost? I mean,
like I'm always trying to pitch a sitcom? You hear that?
Get at me? Uh, I can't even think SIcom creators. Now,
Bill Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
There you go, Okay, well we will we will accept
it as a ghost story.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh much appreciation.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
This is my new gabble that was just said to
me by a listener, and I have it so that
I can determine that is a ghost.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, I mean I believe, I believe it might be.
You know, I have friends that I've encountered dead relatives.
They believe in all that stuff, and I have I
have not experienced that. Ever. I might be like too
spectro me or too like logical for like for me
to just explain everything away to even myself, But I
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try to like keep my mind open to the potential
for something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Have you had sleep prolysis since No.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Not really, I don't really have. I have some bad
dreams every once in a while, but like sleep is
something that I'm like fucking awesome at these days. Yeah, yeah,
I'm so good at it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I just fell asleep in an airport and I was
so proud of myself.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Oh that's a dream that's powerful.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Like in the airport.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I'm also good at staying awake too, which is like
I got it. I'm very proud of myself with that.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Now I'm not just at the age where I'm just
always tired enough to be like, Okay, I can go
to bed right now. It's like today was hard. I
had to drive to Burnbank talk to Roz and then
I drove home. Now I need to go to bed
hard day.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Are you superstitious?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
No, not not really. I will play the games of
like oh one headlight, tap the thing or whatever. You know,
I'll do stuff like that. I won't walk under ladders,
I won't. You know.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That's superstitious.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah. And that's one of those things too where it's
like I don't believe per se, but I might as
well play the game. Like I don't believe in church,
but if I go with my mom, I'll go get
the body of Christ, you know what I mean, Like
make yeah, I'm starving. It should be beef jerky. Like,
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if it's based on the fact that it's the body
of Christ, it should be beef jerky. It should be
higher protein.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
You know, we've had a lot of conversations about the
body of Christ on this podcast. I want to know
what part of Jesus it is.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That's a great question. I believe they'll tell you that
via consecration. It is just bread being infused with the
spirit of Christ, much like you know. But I don't
believe in that tabernac glass bullshit shots fired. I was
raised Catholic, so I'm informed.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And oh, okay, Pope francis you hear that?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Come at me, Pope, please have me on your podcast. JF.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
You said the magical word, the magic word, which is Catholicism.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yes, that pretty much the most ghosty of the religions, right.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Very much. Geehaw, you need to uh, you need to
listen to me.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
How dare you ros?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
We need something that I press or.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Or maybe a sound effect where it's just like yeah
every time we say or like.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Can we clear that? Can we clear some kind of
like oh.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, I think it could be done.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I need a monk or something something like that, get
this bitch a monk, Get me a monk, and I'm
not talking about Mama's done. Thank you. So Catholicism teaches
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us about ghosts, I believe. I believe it can make
people believe in ghosts if they're taught at from a
young age.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, I think so. I mean there's enough going on
with like saints and the afterlife and praying to an
invisible being that kind of can prime your pump for
although I don't believe they say like it would go
against Catholic doctrine. I think to be like, yeah, no,
they're not in heaven, they're actually in a restless spirit
living here, you know. I think that would go against it.
(24:02):
But weirdly enough, Catholicism also primes that pump. The age
from four to fucking fourteen, you're learning about spirits and
saints and like God creating man and woman and a
woman eating an apple and that being like high drama.
Like if you're hearing all that, like then it's kind
of like conspiracy theories, like if one gets you all
(24:22):
all of a sudden, all the other ones seem within reach,
you know, if all of a sudden, I'm like Look,
I don't believe in ghosts, but I do believe that
there's a man in the sky who has the power
to choose where you spend eternity. Like it's easy. It's
like it's a step further to get.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
To ghosts, right right, right, where do.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
You stand on? And I know you've worked with some
of the past, but I'm just curious, like I've never
worked with a medium or someone who communicates with the
dead or you know, like, have you ever encountered anyone
like that?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And do you believe My overall belief on everything is
I think anything is possible. I think when money is involved,
like with haunted eBay dolls or psychics or yes, give
me money and I'll get the ghost out of your house.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Give me money and I'll tell you that your dead
husband still loves you and all that shit.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, and he does.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, it gets it seems to be a little predatory.
It can it can get predator, much like anything anybody
religion believe. And you know, religion starts out as this
beautiful thing to take care of each other in the community,
and then all of a sudden, money gets involved in
you have a pastor who has like a PJ and
he's like got full sleeve tattoos, and it's talking.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
About anytime it's a documentary or anything about these these
pastors that are like this water is a very special
magic water and it takes away diseases.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So anyone who yeah, anyone who's selling like snake oil,
like for real, Like literally the Bible has stories about
how what they're doing is evil like and then they're like, yeah, hey,
we're pitching Christianity here, but I'm literally doing stuff that
the bad guys in the Bible were doing.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Don't get me started.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I'm like Jesus where we can flip the tables and
the money changers. Keep that in mind.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Oh oh, But to answer your question about psychics, I
definitely believe that it's possible. My listeners are probably sick
of hearing me say this, but I'm very proud of
this analogy. I compare psychic abilities to sense of humor.
I think that everyone's got a vers even just a
(26:27):
little bit, but some people can make a living at it.
Some people it's just like, oh, they said a funny thing.
Sometimes yeah, whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
But someone can have like they have light psychic ability,
but they're a manager at Walmart. They don't have to,
like they are super hysterically funny and they are an
English teacher, you know, right, right.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
But I also think when you start doing, like when
you're like, Okay, I'm going to be a comedian or
I'm going to be a psychic, like, you definitely can bomb.
You definitely can have better days than other days. Sometimes
you're just tapped in right. Sometimes you're working with someone
that you have better chemistry with. So I just think that,
like that's how it is with psychics. I try to
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give them the benefit of the doubt that like the
ones that really can do, because I've seen people do
incredible things as a psychic, Like I've been there when
they've done the like going up to a stranger in
a deli and be like, hey, I got a message,
and then it's.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Just like that's fucking wild. Yeah see I've seen that.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
But then I'm like, do that to me, and then
they're like.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Right, and then you can't get that first hand. Ex,
yeah you said something in there. You just like, I
think anything is possible, and I think I think that
would be where I'm coming from too. I believe that
people have psychic powers because again that goes back to
my original thesis of like, we're not positive what the
brain is capable of, you know, right, and that would
be that exactly?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Or is it beyond the brain?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Welcome back to beyond the brain?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Can I show you a haunted doll? Of it's time
for the dolls are living? You just gone to the
desk and full you know, I could. I recently got
one in my possession, but that doll is not here.
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It is locked away in a box.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
But you have you own an or possess a.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Hounted possess a doll that is possessed.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
So that's see. I don't know if I fully believe it,
but I definitely would not spit into the wind with
being like, well, fill my house with haunted dolls and
I'll believe It's a vibe.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
It's always been my theory or whatever is like, I
don't necessarily believe in it, but I'm not taking my chances.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Same same, I feel that you know.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
What, jeeha, I just realized I think I have a
better one. Can I just real quick said, is that
really gonna mess you up? No mess me up?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Just email it to me. It's just gonna take a minute.
You'll just have to stand back.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It won't mess up, but it will take a minute.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So we're cutting. All is pissed and I want to
give you my notes. You have to keep this in
my god, so, oh my god, anyone listening. Jiha just
did that thing where she takes like a finger and
goes across the throat. Listen to her.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Boys.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
It's insane how she can sound nice, but she's really I.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Can't even read what she but she has a piece
of paper that says, shut the fuck up and move on.
She's holding it up, but she's okay.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You know what, before we do this to Jiha, I
want to ask you what you would prefer. Would you
prefer a gay man trapped in a doll or a
gorilla toy that is a sex demon?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Ay? Wait? What am I choosing for it? One of them?
I get to lead, No, no, just for us to
talk about. They both sound amazing. But I think you
had me a gorilla sex demon. Okay, well, which I
think is the name of my first.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
That Giha's gonna be pissed off because now I have
to send this to Giha.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I'll just look it up on eBay.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I had the gay man trapped in the thing. But
I had a feeling, because I'm a little psychic, that
you wanted the gorilla.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I can't believe what I just typed into this search bar.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, I'm here now on a watch list for sure
haunted doll active demon.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Whoa, it says haunted doll active demon sexual suck ubus
shape shifter item, gorilla booty cheeks.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And it looks just like a toy with someone put
red ink around the gorilla's eyes.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, there's definitely red just smeared over a regular old gorilla.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
That is very unscary. I will say, well, just wait
till you read it.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So these all come with bios. This one is currently
going for forty three dollars and ninety nine cents.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Not bad.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
This is one of the ones. You know. I'm on
to some of these sellers because there's a lot of
people that sell like this is their job. They sell.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
They just buy dolls at thrift stores. Let me write,
let me write a backstory. I've been working on this
gorilla sex demon idea. It's like, oh, okay, yeah, well
we got a gorilla toy. Let's slap some red paint
on its eyes and watches two comedians in Los Angeles
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
So that's why I am on to some of these
people where I'm like, you just want to be featured
on this show because these bios are too good.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Well, it's also like, okay, so you have seven different
dolls for sale on your like you live in a
house with seven haunted dolls waiting to try to sell them.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
But you know some people, Okay, I'll give you an example.
My friends Greg and Dana Newkirk shout out. They run
a haunted museum and it just haunted items and a
lot of what they have, people send it to them
because they know they're the people.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Right, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
So it's like, I'll give these people the benefit of
the doubt.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Now, are you trying to pitch me a sitcom? Because
I think Haunted Museum couple is a sile.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, it is, so like I could see maybe it's like, oh, yeah,
you know Janie, she loves selling those haunted dolls. Here's
a great one for her. This one is haunted by
a sex demon and a gorilla.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
That's kind of like, you know, in like when you
meet someone and learn some like for example, when I've
been with my wife now for like twenty ish years.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And are you serious?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, I think it's twenty two at this point. Uh.
And my mom she used to be into owls in
like the mid Auts, and my mom would buy her
like an owl. But now twenty years later, my mom's
still like, Tiffany, you like owl stuff, right, And it's
like she's like seeking out owl shit, and we're like,
we don't even have like places for all these fucking owls,
(32:52):
and so it's become like this kind of joke. And
then it's all a sudden you're like, oh, the New
Kirks they love haunted dolls, and they're like, Okay, we
actually are full of awe.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Because that's the thing. You get the doll, but then
you also get what's on the inside.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, and it could be a gay man or a
sex demon.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
So let me read you about this one please. This
one's name is Salaysia. It says me, Salaysia. She is
something special. She's exciting, big, strong and dirty.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Why am I hard right now?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
A beautiful vessel from the underworld ready to serve you
and possess you. And if we can get some like
uh like kind of like bou Chicka wow, wow music
under this that would be great. Thank you. Salaysia is
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so sexy, clever, and so damn naughty. She loves to
laugh and cheer. Oh my god, I cannot keep reading this.
This is this is worse than I thought it was.
She loves to laugh and cheer. I'm omitting part of
this when you play with her fat gorilla booty cheeks.
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She loves all positions, especially doggy style. This is insane.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Trying to convey to an ape what doggy style is
is like, you're already doing ape style. Do you need
to make it doggy as well? That complicated?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
It's too many specieses. This is on the next season
a Chimp Crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Well, that's what I was just about to say, speaking
of like documentaries that are one hour or too long.
Although I was upset at that list, put it all there.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I gotta get wet. Can you reach out to
the lady from Chimp Crazy?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Tanya Headdacks. I feel like you do would get along
so well. I don't hope will take offense, but I
think no, I agree, you would get a lot.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Weir absolutely now it don't actually do that, geha, I
actually don't want the competition, so anyway, but here's.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
What you play with the dolls booty cheeks, and then
Salasia gets all fucking worked up.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I think usually how this goes.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Usually usually with gorilla sex demons.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
And I am an expert on this. There is a
spirit inside now. It says here she will change into
a gorgeous female with long black hair, big beautiful breasts
and eyes and red lips. Be careful and do not
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let her consume you, for you are its master. When
she changes into this animalistic female, she needs to be
shown some sort of control. This is insane.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I buy a gorilla doll, I rub its butt cheeks,
it turns into a giant, statuesque brunette, and then I'm
not supposed to let it consume me. Rip Gaberis. I
am toast like Seleasia, I'm yours baby. Look at those
booty cheeks. I wouldn't even think of a gorilla as
having cheeks. Really, Oh that is That was one of
(36:28):
the big takeaways. That was one of the big takeaways
from Chimp Crazy is that some of these chimps asses
are horrifying to look at.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, definitely, I do recall that.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
A friend of mine said after watching Chimp Crazy, He's like,
that's when I knew Trump could win the presidency because
it's like I live in a bubble. America is different
than I thought.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's very different, and it's kind.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Of eye opening. When you watch it, you're like, Okay, yeah, no,
this this is a different country than I thought.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
We lived in absolutely And that's the thing about this
haunted doll world. You know, I tried to expose the
world to this underworld, but there's a lot of these.
I mean, there's monkey trade in this country I didn't
know about.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And now we're finding the Venn diagram smashed together in Salasia,
the possessed sex demon inside of a gorilla toy. This
looks like a fucking McDonald's happy Meal toy. Then you're like,
you take it home and you're like, hey, I picked
this up for you, son. Hey how come you keep
taking that gorilla doll into the shower with you? My
(37:28):
gorilla doll?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
It's you know, I don't feel comfortable reading all of this,
but I think that people.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Get to touch nasty. This might be a perfect thing
to throw in the show notes and then people can like,
you know, yeah, yeah, I follow up on my own.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I'm not sure by the time, you know, I assume
somebody's gonna snatch this right up, so it might not
still be up.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I'm on my phone buying it right now. I will
get this before January sixth, where anyone else hears about
this shit. I need Sleasia in my life. Life. Yeah,
please turn into please don't just be a gorilla. Just
my luck. A gorilla rips my cock off, I'm gonna
throw your turning into a lady. I am a female gorilla. Bitch.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Oh no, I will say. The word sperm is used.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Shit, one of the hottest words.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
This insane. As I'm looking at this.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
This is already an insane conceit on step one, and
then they still managed to surprise you.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I need to put a hat on a hat, but
they did.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I did not need to put a sperm in a Salasia.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
There's sperm, there's I'm sorry, I'm just quoting piss drinking there's.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Okay, you're losing me a little here, Soleasia. This might
be a I'm not that in look a sex demon
killing me during a consensual Yeah, that one, but I'm
not about that. Wait, am I drinking?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Her?
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Pis or is she's drinking mine. You know what? Keep reading?
I need to know now.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
It would be yours.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Oh okay, Yes, that's got a little she likes. I'm
old school, I'm a little I'm a little bit of
a traditionalist. Yeah, I'm gonna fuck a gorilla doll come
to life as a sex team. And I don't think
I need to be drinking piss or having her drink
my piss exactly, Yes, a definition of a hat on hat.
I'm like, isn't this enough? Lady? Isn't this enough? Celicia?
(39:24):
Now you also need my piss? I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
That's why that she got the name Salatia.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
She's insolatiable.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
You're killing me. So it says you pet her and
spank her fat ass, And it's a with two dollars size.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
If you say fat ass in reference to a gorilla,
you're already weird. If you say in reference to a toy,
that is crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
But this is it's not crazy because it's not They're
not talking about slapping the ass of a toy, because
that would be insane. But that's talking about slapping the
ass of a demon that comes out of the toy.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Oh okay, So Salata is stacked with cheeks, got it.
Her cheek game is strong, exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
This isn't weird.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Okay, you're right, I apologize. I'm not here to yuck
anyone's young.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
She also has a sexy cheer outfit.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
This is just some old pervert who's like, uh yes,
sperm drinking, piss yeah, cheerleader outfit. It's like it's starting
to be like nineties porn category. It's like, and Selasia
is also a sexy nurse and you and she's your
step mom exactly, she's your stepsister, and she has to
sleep in your bed tonight, and she forgot her underwear,
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and she's thirsty, and all she has is a glass
of your piss.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
It says, light a white candle, burn incense, and give
a small present to welcome her into your home. And
then it says at the very end, this vessel is uncleansed.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
I'd say, yeah, waivers, you're not fucking a sex teaming upstairs,
are you? Jesus Christ? In reeks of incense and pissed
down here?
Speaker 1 (41:16):
I must just a bit take.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
This is such a weird place to be in because
it's like, I'm just horny enough and just heterosexuality is
a cage, and I'm just I'm just enough to be like,
what does salisia look like?
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Wow? For forty ninety nine cents.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
And the cost of a white candle and incense.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
You gotta include that. Sorry, doesn't come.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
With handling candle incense.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
She doesn't come with that stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
And you know you don't get the full salatia kit
in the mail.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
No, no, you gotta get it all separate. But it
always says with these eBay requires that I add the
policy on purchasing paranormal and metaphysical objects. It forbids the
sale of intangible objects like spirits, entities, luck, magic. Therefore,
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I am only selling this as a doll.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Imagine like the when the old people who invented eBay
back in like the late night you know, mid odds
were like, yeah, so people could sell stuff that they
had and maybe it's collectibles. And it's like, hey, boss,
what do we want to do about like spirits and
entities and stuff where we gonna allow people to sell
intangible objects? And it's like, I don't know, that seems
like a litigious kind of category. Let's just say no spirits,
(42:34):
no intangibles. And like someone's like when when will this
come in handy boom here we are dealing with it.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
What they were probably like, No, we're not gonna put
that because that's in set.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
We're not putting that. And then all of a sudden
they had to because someone's like, I'd like to return
my guerrilla doll and never turned into a sucubus who
drained me of piss, and.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Come, yeah, I would be pretty pissed off if that's
what happened.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Wait all I can think about right now, Roz, And
please don't take this the wrong ways. You need to
sell haunted dolls off yourself to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I think about this all the time.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I'm not saying I'm not saying that because of all
the sperm and and all that, all the sex stuff.
I'm not saying that for that reason. I'm saying your
your listeners should be purchasing a haunted ros doll for
their house and you just put some like a little
pre recorded voice stuff in there and shit and like
you know, just startle like have it play at random
times motion detected.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Don't I should just go to build a bear workshop
and just record the little messages, yes, and then just
sell them that way, is that still a thing?
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Build a Best it's gotta be if American Girls still exists.
I bet build a Bear still exists.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Can I play some ghost voices?
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Please?
Speaker 1 (43:48):
It's time for ev or evase. EVP stands for Electronic
voice phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
This is like voices that are recorded but not heard
by the natural year right.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Exactly, That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, so this was posted by Paranormal Proof official.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Okay, I mean, so it's real. Next one.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
That is what they've named their YouTube channel. I don't
know what the location is, but they captured this voice,
and I want you to tell me what you hear
the ghost.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Saying I need I think I need another time.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Don't you worry?
Speaker 2 (44:36):
I got it is tip included.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
That is not a Paranormal Proof official.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Thought, Oh, what do they think he's saying? Here's an A, B,
C D.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Did they think it was A, Hey i'm walking here.
B they don't want that, C it won't work? Or
D Hey wait what all right?
Speaker 2 (45:13):
I'm gonna have to go with B.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
They don't want that. I mean it does sound a
lot like that. They believe it was C it won't work.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I mean, they might have more like knowing the context
might make more sense too, because if they're like watching
Drugstore Cowboy, then we know him saying I'm walking here
is probably the ghost, Like, this is my favorite part
coming up.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
They were looking I think that they pulled out a
crystal and then the ghost said that won't work.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Put it away, bitch, it ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
You need something stronger for me.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Pulled out crystal, starts looking crystal. That won't work on me.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
And yeah, so that was that. Okay, here's the next one.
We've got two of them. This was posted by Ghostly
Whispers Ghostly Whispers Paranormal, and it's at a place called
Old Lions Park. Now, I was googling because I'm like,
(46:20):
where's Old Lions Parks right? Well, I googled Old Lions
Park Haunted and it led me to this blog kind
of website called thet channel dot com and it's talking
about this place that basically, there's like an urban legend
(46:44):
that in the late seventies a child says here a
child was playing on a set of swings in Lions Park,
which is in Liz Moore, I think this is in
Australia and fell off that the kid off and the
swing came back and hit the child, and that was
(47:05):
it for the child. And now it's haunted.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Oh might it's a haunted mite. It's a bit haunted now,
ain't it.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
But people still hear screams, laughing children, you know, all
this kind of spooky stuff. It's like the haunted woods
of this area.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I will say, ever since the TV show Are You
Afraid of the Dark?
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Nickelodeon Haunted, its benefically approve about the midsnight Society. I
call this story the Lion Park.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
In the credits, they have the swing that is just swinging,
and that is that is a haunting image. It's just
a swing swing night. And now you're telling me the
swing killed the kid.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Oh well, But here's the fun thing about this website,
this blog. It must be a popular blog because there's
a lot of comments that people had shared their stories
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Oh cool, and once stood out to.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Me so a user named Peter wrote, the old Lions
Park used to be a gay beat. When one time
at night I was with a guy. We saw someone
watching us in the scrub less than three feet away.
It was a bright moonlight night. The person stood there strangely,
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slightly slender wearing a cameo top in jeans. We indicated
for him to join us. He made no sound either
from the dry leaves and sticks, which snap if you
slightly moved. Me and my companion looked for a moment
at each other and then back again at the other guy,
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and he completely vanished with no sound. It would have
been impossible that that could happen due to the sound
and visibility. We both felt a strange chill in the air.
We realized what happened and that it could have only
been a ghost which spoiled the mood, and we couldn't
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leave quicker.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
A ghost spoiled the moon quicker than like a creep
watching them gay guys rule, like a dude watching them,
like hey, come on, come.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
On over, gay guys rule. And then I started reading
more and more comments, and it was like, yeah, this place,
like too many people were having sex of this park.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
So that's really funny the idea of a haunted park.
But it's also a cruising site, and so then you're
like a like a closed minded ghost from like the
early twentieth century. It was like get these puffas addy,
and then like there they have to watch guys just
fu fuck all day long and night. Yeah, like boo,
and they're like do you want to join? He's like,
(49:46):
I'm trying to steal you. Get over Are you handsome
as ghosts through a top of the bottom?
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Oh my god, you're killing me to that.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
That is such a funny idea. I'll haunt this park
for my life and just every night has to watch dudes. Okay,
all right, well maybe tonight I'll be able to scare someone.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Get over here you so anyway? Oh sorry, I forgot
what we were doing here. We're doing EVPs, so or
EV please thank you? So this was a ev P
that I think was taken at that park called old
Ian's Park. Anyway, what oh fark.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
I'm going to I'm about to bush? Are you on prep? Sorry?
Let's EV please.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
It's really good.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
It's someone inhaling a pauper. It is a scary noise.
That is like if I heard that noise, I'd be scared.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
Did they think it was a it's hot out here? B?
How do you know? C?
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Hurry up.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Or d I can't even.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Oh, I don't hear many words in there, but I'm
gonna hurry up. Seems like something.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
They believe it was b How do you know?
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Maybe so maybe it was like the gay guys saw
the ghosts and they're like, oh, that's just a ghost,
and he's like, how do you.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Know that ghost isn't gay? How do you wink? I've
been around for millennia. You think I haven't eaten an
ass or two?
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Okay, last thing hit me. I'm just gonna list like
paranormal things, and I'm curious if you have any thought.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
That's a great ring. By the way, I want to
thank you.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Isn't it great? You know I got it? Wacko on Sunset.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Oh, I was like in Texas, that's pronounced yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Wacko on Sunset is my favorite store in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I'll check it out. It looks that's cool as shit.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
It's just like Evil Eye. Anyone listening, but it's like
a plastic anyway. Okay, just tell me what you think
about these things?
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Ouiji boards.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
I I can't believe a board game that is sold
at Toys r US is scary, but it is. We
have one. We have a vintage one in our We're
not allowed to use. It's only for it's only for decoration.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Where'd you get it?
Speaker 2 (53:05):
My wife tracked it down, like bought a vintage one.
It was like from nineteen seventy something and eBay, yeah,
I guess at night it comes the life that sucks
me off. But otherwise no, it's it's terrifying. We don't
we're not allowed to play with him, but it's just
out for in the in the October spooky season. D
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r I n K P I S.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
What do you think of the month man?
Speaker 2 (53:48):
I am hoped to meet him someday, asking what it
was like to work with Richard.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Gear Yeah, ask him the story is it's true, it
was a haunted Gerbil doll. What do you think of
past lives?
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Ooh, that's that's a that's an interesting one. I it
requires a belief in, like a whole new understanding of
how the afterlife and all that works. But it's hard,
it's hard to completely rule that out. But that one's
kind of exciting that spiritually we will continue on. But
if I don't remember any of my past lives when
I do my next life, will I remember?
Speaker 1 (54:30):
What's the point?
Speaker 2 (54:30):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1 (54:31):
So do you think that you've lived past lives?
Speaker 2 (54:35):
I think so it's possible you know, people say stuff
like when they have like a specific affinity it or
something like, you know, my wife really likes like a
certain era of design and stuff. And she believes that's
partially because here, Like she'll like do the math and
she's like, imagine if I was born here and then
I would have died at this age and then that
I was alive for this, And I'm like, oh yeah,
I mean maybe.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
It makes sense what era is she into.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
She's into like the roaring roaring twenties and then like
also to jump back to like the Victorian like she's
really and for me, I'm like, yeah, maybe because I
have such an affinity for the ocean that I don't like,
but because my wife is like, maybe you were someone
and I'm like, but man, yeah, but I like I
grew up on Long Island, like a few miles from
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the beach. It's like it's probably nurture more than it
is nature at that point of like Long Island.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Wait a second, there's so much iconic paranormal stuff.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Oh yeah, we have we have Mount Misery, which is.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Our Wait, I don't know that one. I was going
to say, Amnyville horror.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
We got Amnyvill horror. We got the Montalk Monster. We
have Theresakaputosa on the Long Island medium. They call me
the Long Island double XL.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
What what is the Mount Mount Misery.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
It's like a road that goes up into the woods
in Long Island, on Long Island, and everyone believes that
there's crazy stuff. Yeah, she's up there bashing Jamie Jimmy
Conn's ankles with a sledgehammer. Me. No, It's this like
road that goes to almost nowhere and everyone has had
(56:10):
some like they say that there's a church there, and
people there is a church there, and then people believe
that they've seen the cross upside down and they've seen
people in robes. This is like stuff you hear as legend.
You don't know what's real. But I will say my
one experience with Mount Misery was we drove up in
my friend my friend got this is tie everything we've
(56:31):
talked about together. My friends got his first car. He
bought it off his mom's psychic for fifty dollars. It
was in nineteen seventy five. Ford Ltd. Which is about
the length of a cruise ship. It's enormous and it
sits three in the front three in the back, me, him,
another buddy, and two girls were all going out. We
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made stolen cocktails and we smoked some weed and we
got in this car and we're going to drive up
to Mount Misery and the girls are like, I don't know.
We're like, oh, yeah, we should do. It'd be totally cool.
And we start driving up and the road keeps getting
narrow and narrowing a little more overgrown with brush, and
then there's headlights behind us, and my buddy who's driving,
is like freaking out a little bit. He's like, oh,
these guys are out my fucking ass. I just want
(57:12):
to drive slow, you know. And we're seventeen, so we're
like eighteen, we just got cars. And he's like, oh fuck,
you know, and this guy's and I'm like, okay, it's
all right, it's a right. So we keep driving and
we get to just a random like dead end, you know,
where like there's just like a yellow diamond sign with
nothing on it and like a guardrail, and we're like, shit,
we're in the middle of the woods. We got to
turn around, but his car is so big. He's like, shit,
these guys behind me are gonna flip out. So their
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headlights are like beaming on us. He starts doing like
a twenty eight point turn, and then the headlights turn
off and we're like, oh okay, like thank you. You
can tell you're blasting us. And then when we fully
turn around and drive out, we never encounter that car,
and it was pretty scary and like we got we
got really creeped out. Now, could that a car have
(57:56):
just shut its lights off, turned around or driven backwards
out of it? Completely possible, But we unpacked it for
like an hour afterwards, and we're like, something weird happened
up there.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
Yeah, I can't believe you save that till the end.
I can't believe I've finished.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
I can't believe it didn't come up earlier. I guess
I didn't. I consider that more in the realm of
urban legends and stuff like that, I get.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
I like urban legends.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Shit, girl, I'm sorry. Yeah, it was a fucking ride.
As a matter of fact, I think next time I
go home to visit, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna
head up.
Speaker 1 (58:28):
There and come back to report.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
I will. I'll report back.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Have you been to the Amneyville house.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
We've driven past it, We've never like tried to get
in there. There's also like an empty uh insane asylum
on Long Island too, that's supposed to be haunted that
like squatters were living in for years after and stuff
like that. Yeah, Long Island has a lot of that.
It's proximity to New York City, and it's like aged,
like it's been around for a long time. And probably
the atrocities that were visited upon the native and indigenous
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populations over you know, centuries, this probably doesn't help the vibes. Yeah,
and now Long Island is terrifying for a number of
different reasons. As today is January sixth, te.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
Tying it all together, well, gabras Ras, I'm so sad
we can't use any of this. Tell people where they
can find you.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
I'm at gabras on all social media. I have a
podcast called I.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Just started Thinking about the the Haunted you.
Speaker 2 (59:30):
In your home, asking me to drink piss. My podcast
High and Mighty is just a chat show with other
comedians and interesting people. If you're a Roz fan, maybe
start with her episode We had a good Time and
then I also have a podcast called Action Boys, which
is three middle aged men discussing classic action movies of
(59:53):
the seventies, eighties, and nineties. It's behind a paywall, but
we have hundreds of episodes so it might be of value.
And we also have some free episodes at free dot
Action Boys dot Biz Boys with a Z and who
do you Do that with? My friends Ben Rogers and
Ryan Stanger. They're two very funny UCB comedian guys podcaster. Yeah, yeah,
it's a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Well, thank you for joining me, Thank.
Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
You for having me. What a treat. I got to
get home and get on eBay asas.
Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Thank you so much to John Gabris. I was sweating
profusely from the laughter during that. Holy shit, anyway, that
was really fun and dirty, naughty. Hey, thank you so
(01:00:48):
much for supporting this show. Of course, you know all
the things where to find me, the things I got
going on, all that, and I hope you have a
full and prosperous new year. We are celebrating six years
of this podcast Ghosted, and I appreciate you so much
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for listening. I love you all, both living and dead.
But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
haunt mekay back. This has been an exactly right production.
Want to share your paranormal experience. On the podcast, I
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read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you.
So email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.
You can send a DM or voice message to the
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My senior producer is the startling Jihae. Associate producer is
the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound
designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is
the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair
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raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by the
spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac,
Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the
chilling Karen Kilgareff, the spooky Georgia hard Stark, and the
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Frightening Danielle Kramer.
What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky, joky,
I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait
a minute, I said, I los nandaz Plice. Hey boo,
(00:28):
it's me Roz and welcome to Ghostard by Roz Hernandez.
Happy New Year. I sat down with John Gabriis, the
hilarious comedian actor. I'm just gonna warn you right off
(00:50):
the bat, this is this conversation gets it's is sexual
in nature, but holy sha is he funny. And you
know I do every once in a while I like
to represent the underrepresented voices here at Ghosted, that being
(01:11):
heterosexual men, and there's a short list of them that
we have on here. But when we do we get
some good ones. And this is a funny one, this
John Gabrius. So you're gonna want to stick around. But
if you're one of those people that's like, I love
listening to you with my kids. No, not this one. Okay,
(01:35):
before we get into that, I do have a story
i'd like to share with you. This one comes from
Justin Justin Wrights. Here's the backstory to this story. My
grandmother was my biggest support during my tumultuous life. She
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raised me for the first four years until my mother
decided to move to another state. Throughout the years, she's
proven time and time again that she's there for me,
even to this day. Last night, I was having a
rough time due to partner issues. I woke up and
was having trouble getting back to sleep, so I decided
(02:18):
to finish up a podcast I had started. I fell
asleep listening around three AM, and your show started to
auto play because it was next on my list. While
the episode with Detox was playing, I had the most
vivid dream. I was moving my car for some reason,
(02:38):
and lo and behold, my grandma comes strolling out of
the house. In life, she was blind and a bit frail,
but here she was lively and giddy to see me.
She got in the car and we started talking. Instantly
I felt better here she was showing up to be
my rock yet again. Weird part of the dream was
(03:01):
that since your show was playing, somehow you made it
with me to see my grandma. You came outside and
asked us what we heard on the EVP or ev police.
Then I woke up. There's more to it, but it
sounds weird writing it.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
All out.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I don't recall what Grandma said, but she always seems
to show up when I need her, and this time
you happen to be there for that experience. Thank you, Ah, Justin.
I'm honored to be there with your grandmother and you.
That is such a sweet story. I'm obsessed with When
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this has happened multiple times over the years, A few times,
just a few where people send me dreams that I
end up in. I'm obsessed. You know. I don't want
to open it up to people. Send me all of
your dreams. If it involves me, that changes, it changes
(04:00):
things for me. So if it does involve me and
it's paranormal in nature, send it on over because I'm
I'm absolutely honored to make a cameo in your in
your sleep state. Thank you, Justin. Okay, let's get into
(04:21):
this conversation. I haven't left this hard in a minute.
Oh my god, here we go my conversation with John
Gabris and with the show.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
John Gabriel, Hi, Roz, thank you for having me. Thanks
for doing this.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
On January sixth, I know my favorite holidays today for
us over here.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, we're recording advance, so maybe I'm the j Johnstone
of the Liberal J six and I'm getting arrested right now.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Wow, Yeah, that's interesting. Huh that guy went to prison.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Huh, I believe so. Unfortunately Jimmy Pesto and mister show
sketch cast member is in jail. Unfortunately for him, only
he shouldn't have been there. Yeah, you don't get arrested
if you're not there rioting.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
That's that's a good point. I do want to know
what you think of aliens. Everyone keeps bringing up aliens to.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Me interesting, I definitely think, and not to you know,
immediately attack the conceit of the show. But in my mind,
aliens are more realistic than ghosts, which I don't know
if there's a competition, Okay, in my.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Mind alienating my audience.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I seem to think that it's more likely that there
are aliens than ghosts. But that being said that that
doesn't discount I don't think that there isn't the ghosts necessarily.
I just think aliens is more likely, And that might
be just like annoying science brain of like, there's got
to be other species that we don't understand out there,
and hell, who knows, maybe ghosts are just some weird aliens.
(06:16):
And then I think we talked about this on my
episode on your episode of my show too, because I'm
obsessed with like what the human brain is capable of,
and like what it could potentially what we might be
misinterpreting from our own brain in ways, you know what
I mean, like trying to explain phenomena that we experience
because the brain is a complex computer, and then we
(06:37):
apply it to like a haunting or an alien abduction,
or a past lives or regression or you know, I'm
communicating with the dead, like all those things are possible.
But it's hard not to discount the power of the brain.
Like if you do any hallucinogens, You're like, well, my
brain can do things that I'm not prepared for totally.
But that's okay, But what is the difference at that point?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
True, I agree with all the different The one the
one time where I'm like, wait a minute, is when
it's like a hotel somebody goes to the front desk
and they're like, oh my god, I just have to
tell you in the middle of the night, and then
the personal looks to the front desk is like the
man with the beard, ye white suit.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That's hard. Yeah, that's hard to parse, you know what
I mean? Like that is like, is there a man?
Is there Colonel Sanders hanging out in your room? Exactly?
Extra crispy, I didn't hear you. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
There's a documentary I just watched on Netflix. I have
to look up what it was called. It's called like
the Manhattan UFO something, and it's like this, lady to
check it out. It's you gotta watch it. It's it's
one of these things where luckily now they make it
(08:03):
three parts.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
You said it seven or eight, Yeah, where it's like, dude,
and they're made for such dummies too, and it's like
like previously on and then it's like eight minutes, and
then at the end of the episode, they're like next
on and it's another eight minutes. And then you're like
this so much overlap. You're telling me the same details.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Over and over it exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
But a three parter is nice. I just watched the
three part on The Gray's Anatomy Writer who Lied, and
that one I forgot.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I stopped watching. Okay, I need to go back to that.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I had a last watching. Okay, Yeah, I think you
will too.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yes, because the woman. She said that she had cancer,
and she also lied about a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
She kept lying. She kept just meeting people and stealing
their stories and like just adding them to her life.
She went to like PTSD camp because she said she
was at the Tree of Life synagogue shooting and she wasn't.
PTSD camp doesn't make sense. She went to like PTSD rehab. Okay,
PTSD cam. Things aren't much better now.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So this is called the Manhattan Alien Abduction and it's
three parts. It could be one and a half. But
it's about this woman that believes she was abducted in
Manhattan out of her window.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh my god, it never happens to Manhattan nights, I know,
because it is always like the stereotype or the pattern
is like country bumpkin like ra.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Where no one else can see it. Yeah, but this
there's all these people that came out claiming that they
also saw her, like floating out of her window. WHOA,
which would be so creepy if all of a sudden
you just see this lady just like floating out of
your window in the middle of the night, like.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
When Luke Perry did it to Buffy and the Buffy
in the movie.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Uh, you know, I'm not a Buffy person.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Oh, I mean, I don't think, don't know, right, Yeah,
it feels wrong, it feels but you're not missing much.
The movie is a lot of fun. The show is
really good too. But yeah, yeah, I'm not going to
sit here, and I just it's distinct in my head
of Luke Perry floating outside the window, you know, rip
to a real one.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, gorgeous, although I.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Was a Brian Austin green guy. If we're going to
get into it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Let's not fight. Let's but let's give people so far,
your watch list is old clips of January sixth.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yes, gotta just go to my YouTube page. I cut
together some sizzle reels of of guys with fucking chin
beards beating cops with a flagpole. It's it's the light,
gorgeous Democracy Alive on camera.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And also the Manhattan Alien Abduction, the Anatomy of a Lie,
Anatomy of a Lie, and the Buffy movie. Correct Now,
I agree that aliens are easier to wrap my head around,
or seem more logical.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Right, a little more explainable, a little more scientifically explainable.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
See, but we don't like science here.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Oh, Okay, one of these don't do that all right. Creationism, Yeah,
we believe God made dinosaurs, aliens, and humans all on
the same day.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Same day. Yes, and that's what we teach at my church.
And I would like you to join.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I am on board. I was an atheist till I
found out you had a church. Now I am on board.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
How do you feel about cults, because I do feel
very vulnerable to I'm just waiting.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know, I am one. I would say, I would
like to think I could sniff out that I was
being like, but I'm also the guy who like dedicated
his life to improv for twenty years, so like little cults.
I mean it's also people got like laid because of cults,
you know, like there is an afrail to cults. I
don't understand why I spent so much money and so
(11:57):
much time performing for improv. So if I'm capable full
of that, or I also did CrossFit for a while,
I get caught up in fast Okay, So I think
a cult could easily grab me, especially if all of
a sudden, it's like, you know, busty women are like, yes,
you're you know, once you're initie, I'm like you got it, lady,
I'm on board.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Okay, this is good for me to know because I
might start when.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Again I'll be a rosinite from the day once.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Okay, So let's go to ghosts though, please. So ghosts
are and we talk about all this stuff on this podcast.
We don't shy away from the moth Man, we don't.
We get into all of it, and we do.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
We believe in cryptozoology here. Yes, I'm a fan. I
think that's I think that's a worthwhile study.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Talk to me about crypto zoology.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's like the study of cryptids, like you know, the
magical monsters, the Bigfoot, the lock Ness, moth Man and
all that stuff, and that that feels again like something
that's possibly explainable via science or it's completely possible that
there is like a Bigfoot esque individual that lives or
a group of them that lives somewhere in the United
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States and we just don't catch them all the time.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
See. But that's always the thing. It's like, okay, but
where is it?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Right? Is it in an alien And I know I've
been I've got went down a rabbit hole of people
who were talking about Bigfoot and dog men sightings, dogmen
is a man, and so I've been I listened to
a lot of first hand accounts of these people, and
they start to talk a little bit about like portals
and like dimension doors and like these are interdimensional creatures
(13:45):
and shit. So it starts to lose me. I mean,
I'm on board for the sci fi of it all,
but it starts to lose me as like, you know,
I like to think that there's like a cave where
it's like I'm just a weird mutation of a beast
that can talk and has hairy nipples and I live
do it, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
But see that's the only way, as crazy as the South,
that is the only way for me to believe it
is if it is like an alien or something that
could discipline.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
More likely than in like an undiscovered species of like oh,
yeah you've heard of the grizzly bear, but did you
know about Bigfoot?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Or so I always think about like these people that
dedicate their life to trying to fight Bigfoot. So what
if one day they just like found him?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, that's what you do the fact that no one
has makes it seem like we're doing something wrong, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Like, but if you did find him, You're like, oh hey,
and then Bigfoot's like hey, like who are you? And
then just like oh, my name's like Stephen or whatever.
And then and then you're like the Bigfoot's like how
much do you know about me? And then and then
Stephen has to be like not like they want to.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Act cool, like well, I mean like we've I've heard
of you. I'm not like I'm not I'm not hosting
a TV show called Finding big Foot.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
And then they become friends and then Bigfoot realizes, oh
my god, this person is obsessed with me. This person
has footprints of me, and that are you know, carved
out of.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
This person just wants to measure my big foot hug
so bad. Yes, Like that's the crazy thing is that,
like we have not seen the petrified Bigfoot cockyin You
would think there should be more evidence of the you know,
but I live like by that Nature will continue to
surprise us like itself. Now. I understand that Bigfoot or
(15:38):
these scriptives could be interdimensional beings or even uh you know,
mass hallucinations or some version of aliens or paranormal kind
of situation, but part of me also just wants to
believe that Mother Nature is capable of some stuff that
we don't fully understand. Yes, yes, like that bottom of
the ocean.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Shit, like what's going on down there?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
God only knows. I'm so sessed with the detail that
someone said the ocean is as undiscovered as outer space.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yes, and that is what is the percent? How much
of the ocean do we know? It's so shocked, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
So and then there's like full on like you know,
the Mariana Trench or whatever it's called, and there's just
like super deep parts of the ocean that we have
no idea what's going on down there?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And show Marianna Trench with her Mariana Trench coming to
the stage. She is undiscovered. Honey, wait ocean ocean percentage
that we have discovered.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Please read out your search bar for it. I have to.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Because i've I've I've recently heard this.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, it's like one percent or something.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
It says a mere five percent of the global ocean
has been explored and less than ten percent mapped using
modern own art technology. And that's from science dot HowStuffWorks
dot com.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
That is ninety percent of the ocean is undiscovered. That
is terrifying, absolutely terrifying.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
But since I really care about my listeners. I am
going on a gay cruise next week, and I will
I'll go down there and I'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Roz, what are you doing? You just like casually put
on like cute snorkel mask and dive off.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You guys, they only know five percent?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Wait, I think this is like the six percent here,
I know, let's dive off.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
All of a sudden, I come back up and I'm like,
we now know seven percent, holding up some weird crab
that no one never saw before. Cash, Well, I still
need to talk to you about ghosts.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, please, have you seen one? I don't think so.
I have not ever seen a ghost. I've experienced like
a recurring dream from when I was a kid that
is still kind of stuck with me of an older
black woman with a head wrap who kind of looked
at me through windows all the time when I was sleeping,
and I would have like that, like I'm stuck on
(18:10):
the bed, I can't and she's looking at me, and
she would like just and it stopped when I moved
houses as a kid. I moved when I was like thirteen,
So I think there was some attachment to a like
a restless soul or a you know, some somebody, somebody
(18:30):
that I used to know was living in that in
that house, I think, and I think that might be
my closest thing to a girl. And I am believe me,
I am open minded to go. So you know, I'm
trying to I'm trying to find them. I'm listening. I
don't go to a lot of haunted hotels and stuff,
because that might be I might psych myself up too much.
I know that's like your.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Forte don't get in my No.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I objectively cannot say exactly please to me. And four
LGB we need one straight guy.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, that that is interesting. So only when you were
living in this house, you would have a dream that
this woman was outside of your bedroom window.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, And or randomly there'd be like a porthole in
the door and it wasn't like not a real thing
that existed, like a hole in like a window in
my door, and she would be like looking through it.
And I remember specifically she would like, I keep doing
this head gesture because she would like kind of slowly
spin around a little, but I could only really see
her head and it was like it was she had
like a head wrap on or you know, like I
(19:38):
think I would have called it a turban when I
was a kid, and now I would just use the
term head rap because it didn't have like that specific pattern.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Are you trying to pitch a sitcom?
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You and this lady? Me and Mama ghost? I mean,
like I'm always trying to pitch a sitcom? You hear that?
Get at me? Uh, I can't even think SIcom creators. Now,
Bill Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
There you go, Okay, well we will we will accept
it as a ghost story.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh much appreciation.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
This is my new gabble that was just said to
me by a listener, and I have it so that
I can determine that is a ghost.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, I mean I believe, I believe it might be.
You know, I have friends that I've encountered dead relatives.
They believe in all that stuff, and I have I
have not experienced that. Ever. I might be like too
spectro me or too like logical for like for me
to just explain everything away to even myself, But I
(20:40):
try to like keep my mind open to the potential
for something like that.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Have you had sleep prolysis since No.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Not really, I don't really have. I have some bad
dreams every once in a while, but like sleep is
something that I'm like fucking awesome at these days. Yeah, yeah,
I'm so good at it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I just fell asleep in an airport and I was
so proud of myself.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Oh that's a dream that's powerful.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Like in the airport.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I'm also good at staying awake too, which is like
I got it. I'm very proud of myself with that.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Now I'm not just at the age where I'm just
always tired enough to be like, Okay, I can go
to bed right now. It's like today was hard. I
had to drive to Burnbank talk to Roz and then
I drove home. Now I need to go to bed
hard day.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Are you superstitious?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
No, not not really. I will play the games of
like oh one headlight, tap the thing or whatever. You know,
I'll do stuff like that. I won't walk under ladders,
I won't. You know.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That's superstitious.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah. And that's one of those things too where it's
like I don't believe per se, but I might as
well play the game. Like I don't believe in church,
but if I go with my mom, I'll go get
the body of Christ, you know what I mean, Like
make yeah, I'm starving. It should be beef jerky. Like,
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if it's based on the fact that it's the body
of Christ, it should be beef jerky. It should be
higher protein.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
You know, we've had a lot of conversations about the
body of Christ on this podcast. I want to know
what part of Jesus it is.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That's a great question. I believe they'll tell you that
via consecration. It is just bread being infused with the
spirit of Christ, much like you know. But I don't
believe in that tabernac glass bullshit shots fired. I was
raised Catholic, so I'm informed.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And oh, okay, Pope francis you hear that?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Come at me, Pope, please have me on your podcast. JF.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
You said the magical word, the magic word, which is Catholicism.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yes, that pretty much the most ghosty of the religions, right.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Very much. Geehaw, you need to uh, you need to
listen to me.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
How dare you ros?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
We need something that I press or.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Or maybe a sound effect where it's just like yeah
every time we say or like.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Can we clear that? Can we clear some kind of
like oh.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, I think it could be done.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I need a monk or something something like that, get
this bitch a monk, Get me a monk, and I'm
not talking about Mama's done. Thank you. So Catholicism teaches
(23:33):
us about ghosts, I believe. I believe it can make
people believe in ghosts if they're taught at from a
young age.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, I think so. I mean there's enough going on
with like saints and the afterlife and praying to an
invisible being that kind of can prime your pump for
although I don't believe they say like it would go
against Catholic doctrine. I think to be like, yeah, no,
they're not in heaven, they're actually in a restless spirit
living here, you know. I think that would go against it.
(24:02):
But weirdly enough, Catholicism also primes that pump. The age
from four to fucking fourteen, you're learning about spirits and
saints and like God creating man and woman and a
woman eating an apple and that being like high drama.
Like if you're hearing all that, like then it's kind
of like conspiracy theories, like if one gets you all
(24:22):
all of a sudden, all the other ones seem within reach,
you know, if all of a sudden, I'm like Look,
I don't believe in ghosts, but I do believe that
there's a man in the sky who has the power
to choose where you spend eternity. Like it's easy. It's
like it's a step further to get.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
To ghosts, right right, right, where do.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
You stand on? And I know you've worked with some
of the past, but I'm just curious, like I've never
worked with a medium or someone who communicates with the
dead or you know, like, have you ever encountered anyone
like that?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And do you believe My overall belief on everything is
I think anything is possible. I think when money is involved,
like with haunted eBay dolls or psychics or yes, give
me money and I'll get the ghost out of your house.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Give me money and I'll tell you that your dead
husband still loves you and all that shit.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, and he does.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, it gets it seems to be a little predatory.
It can it can get predator, much like anything anybody
religion believe. And you know, religion starts out as this
beautiful thing to take care of each other in the community,
and then all of a sudden, money gets involved in
you have a pastor who has like a PJ and
he's like got full sleeve tattoos, and it's talking.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
About anytime it's a documentary or anything about these these
pastors that are like this water is a very special
magic water and it takes away diseases.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So anyone who yeah, anyone who's selling like snake oil,
like for real, Like literally the Bible has stories about
how what they're doing is evil like and then they're like, yeah, hey,
we're pitching Christianity here, but I'm literally doing stuff that
the bad guys in the Bible were doing.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Don't get me started.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I'm like Jesus where we can flip the tables and
the money changers. Keep that in mind.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Oh oh, But to answer your question about psychics, I
definitely believe that it's possible. My listeners are probably sick
of hearing me say this, but I'm very proud of
this analogy. I compare psychic abilities to sense of humor.
I think that everyone's got a vers even just a
(26:27):
little bit, but some people can make a living at it.
Some people it's just like, oh, they said a funny thing.
Sometimes yeah, whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
But someone can have like they have light psychic ability,
but they're a manager at Walmart. They don't have to,
like they are super hysterically funny and they are an
English teacher, you know, right, right.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
But I also think when you start doing, like when
you're like, Okay, I'm going to be a comedian or
I'm going to be a psychic, like, you definitely can bomb.
You definitely can have better days than other days. Sometimes
you're just tapped in right. Sometimes you're working with someone
that you have better chemistry with. So I just think that,
like that's how it is with psychics. I try to
(27:08):
give them the benefit of the doubt that like the
ones that really can do, because I've seen people do
incredible things as a psychic, Like I've been there when
they've done the like going up to a stranger in
a deli and be like, hey, I got a message,
and then it's.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Just like that's fucking wild. Yeah see I've seen that.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
But then I'm like, do that to me, and then
they're like.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Right, and then you can't get that first hand. Ex,
yeah you said something in there. You just like, I
think anything is possible, and I think I think that
would be where I'm coming from too. I believe that
people have psychic powers because again that goes back to
my original thesis of like, we're not positive what the
brain is capable of, you know, right, and that would
be that exactly?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Or is it beyond the brain?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Welcome back to beyond the brain?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Can I show you a haunted doll? Of it's time
for the dolls are living? You just gone to the
desk and full you know, I could. I recently got
one in my possession, but that doll is not here.
(28:18):
It is locked away in a box.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
But you have you own an or possess a.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Hounted possess a doll that is possessed.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
So that's see. I don't know if I fully believe it,
but I definitely would not spit into the wind with
being like, well, fill my house with haunted dolls and
I'll believe It's a vibe.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
It's always been my theory or whatever is like, I
don't necessarily believe in it, but I'm not taking my chances.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Same same, I feel that you know.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
What, jeeha, I just realized I think I have a
better one. Can I just real quick said, is that
really gonna mess you up? No mess me up?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Just email it to me. It's just gonna take a minute.
You'll just have to stand back.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It won't mess up, but it will take a minute.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So we're cutting. All is pissed and I want to
give you my notes. You have to keep this in
my god, so, oh my god, anyone listening. Jiha just
did that thing where she takes like a finger and
goes across the throat. Listen to her.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Boys.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
It's insane how she can sound nice, but she's really I.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Can't even read what she but she has a piece
of paper that says, shut the fuck up and move on.
She's holding it up, but she's okay.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You know what, before we do this to Jiha, I
want to ask you what you would prefer. Would you
prefer a gay man trapped in a doll or a
gorilla toy that is a sex demon?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Ay? Wait? What am I choosing for it? One of them?
I get to lead, No, no, just for us to
talk about. They both sound amazing. But I think you
had me a gorilla sex demon. Okay, well, which I
think is the name of my first.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
That Giha's gonna be pissed off because now I have
to send this to Giha.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I'll just look it up on eBay.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I had the gay man trapped in the thing. But
I had a feeling, because I'm a little psychic, that
you wanted the gorilla.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I can't believe what I just typed into this search bar.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, I'm here now on a watch list for sure
haunted doll active demon.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Whoa, it says haunted doll active demon sexual suck ubus
shape shifter item, gorilla booty cheeks.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And it looks just like a toy with someone put
red ink around the gorilla's eyes.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, there's definitely red just smeared over a regular old gorilla.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
That is very unscary. I will say, well, just wait
till you read it.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So these all come with bios. This one is currently
going for forty three dollars and ninety nine cents.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Not bad.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
This is one of the ones. You know. I'm on
to some of these sellers because there's a lot of
people that sell like this is their job. They sell.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
They just buy dolls at thrift stores. Let me write,
let me write a backstory. I've been working on this
gorilla sex demon idea. It's like, oh, okay, yeah, well
we got a gorilla toy. Let's slap some red paint
on its eyes and watches two comedians in Los Angeles
talk about it.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
So that's why I am on to some of these
people where I'm like, you just want to be featured
on this show because these bios are too good.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Well, it's also like, okay, so you have seven different
dolls for sale on your like you live in a
house with seven haunted dolls waiting to try to sell them.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
But you know some people, Okay, I'll give you an example.
My friends Greg and Dana Newkirk shout out. They run
a haunted museum and it just haunted items and a
lot of what they have, people send it to them
because they know they're the people.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Right, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
So it's like, I'll give these people the benefit of
the doubt.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Now, are you trying to pitch me a sitcom? Because
I think Haunted Museum couple is a sile.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, it is, so like I could see maybe it's like, oh, yeah,
you know Janie, she loves selling those haunted dolls. Here's
a great one for her. This one is haunted by
a sex demon and a gorilla.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
That's kind of like, you know, in like when you
meet someone and learn some like for example, when I've
been with my wife now for like twenty ish years.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And are you serious?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, I think it's twenty two at this point. Uh.
And my mom she used to be into owls in
like the mid Auts, and my mom would buy her
like an owl. But now twenty years later, my mom's
still like, Tiffany, you like owl stuff, right, And it's
like she's like seeking out owl shit, and we're like,
we don't even have like places for all these fucking owls,
(32:52):
and so it's become like this kind of joke. And
then it's all a sudden you're like, oh, the New
Kirks they love haunted dolls, and they're like, Okay, we
actually are full of awe.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Because that's the thing. You get the doll, but then
you also get what's on the inside.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, and it could be a gay man or a
sex demon.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
So let me read you about this one please. This
one's name is Salaysia. It says me, Salaysia. She is
something special. She's exciting, big, strong and dirty.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Why am I hard right now?
Speaker 1 (33:32):
A beautiful vessel from the underworld ready to serve you
and possess you. And if we can get some like
uh like kind of like bou Chicka wow, wow music
under this that would be great. Thank you. Salaysia is
(33:53):
so sexy, clever, and so damn naughty. She loves to
laugh and cheer. Oh my god, I cannot keep reading this.
This is this is worse than I thought it was.
She loves to laugh and cheer. I'm omitting part of
this when you play with her fat gorilla booty cheeks.
(34:21):
She loves all positions, especially doggy style. This is insane.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Trying to convey to an ape what doggy style is
is like, you're already doing ape style. Do you need
to make it doggy as well? That complicated?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
It's too many specieses. This is on the next season
a Chimp Crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Well, that's what I was just about to say, speaking
of like documentaries that are one hour or too long.
Although I was upset at that list, put it all there.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I gotta get wet. Can you reach out to
the lady from Chimp Crazy?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Tanya Headdacks. I feel like you do would get along
so well. I don't hope will take offense, but I
think no, I agree, you would get a lot.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Weir absolutely now it don't actually do that, geha, I
actually don't want the competition, so anyway, but here's.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
What you play with the dolls booty cheeks, and then
Salasia gets all fucking worked up.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I think usually how this goes.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Usually usually with gorilla sex demons.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
And I am an expert on this. There is a
spirit inside now. It says here she will change into
a gorgeous female with long black hair, big beautiful breasts
and eyes and red lips. Be careful and do not
(35:50):
let her consume you, for you are its master. When
she changes into this animalistic female, she needs to be
shown some sort of control. This is insane.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I buy a gorilla doll, I rub its butt cheeks,
it turns into a giant, statuesque brunette, and then I'm
not supposed to let it consume me. Rip Gaberis. I
am toast like Seleasia, I'm yours baby. Look at those
booty cheeks. I wouldn't even think of a gorilla as
having cheeks. Really, Oh that is That was one of
(36:28):
the big takeaways. That was one of the big takeaways
from Chimp Crazy is that some of these chimps asses
are horrifying to look at.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, definitely, I do recall that.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
A friend of mine said after watching Chimp Crazy, He's like,
that's when I knew Trump could win the presidency because
it's like I live in a bubble. America is different
than I thought.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's very different, and it's kind.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Of eye opening. When you watch it, you're like, Okay, yeah, no,
this this is a different country than I thought.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
We lived in absolutely And that's the thing about this
haunted doll world. You know, I tried to expose the
world to this underworld, but there's a lot of these.
I mean, there's monkey trade in this country I didn't
know about.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
And now we're finding the Venn diagram smashed together in Salasia,
the possessed sex demon inside of a gorilla toy. This
looks like a fucking McDonald's happy Meal toy. Then you're like,
you take it home and you're like, hey, I picked
this up for you, son. Hey how come you keep
taking that gorilla doll into the shower with you? My
(37:28):
gorilla doll?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
It's you know, I don't feel comfortable reading all of this,
but I think that people.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Get to touch nasty. This might be a perfect thing
to throw in the show notes and then people can like,
you know, yeah, yeah, I follow up on my own.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
I'm not sure by the time, you know, I assume
somebody's gonna snatch this right up, so it might not
still be up.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I'm on my phone buying it right now. I will
get this before January sixth, where anyone else hears about
this shit. I need Sleasia in my life. Life. Yeah,
please turn into please don't just be a gorilla. Just
my luck. A gorilla rips my cock off, I'm gonna
throw your turning into a lady. I am a female gorilla. Bitch.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Oh no, I will say. The word sperm is used.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Shit, one of the hottest words.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
This insane. As I'm looking at this.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
This is already an insane conceit on step one, and
then they still managed to surprise you.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I need to put a hat on a hat, but
they did.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I did not need to put a sperm in a Salasia.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
There's sperm, there's I'm sorry, I'm just quoting piss drinking there's.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Okay, you're losing me a little here, Soleasia. This might
be a I'm not that in look a sex demon
killing me during a consensual Yeah, that one, but I'm
not about that. Wait, am I drinking?
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Her?
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Pis or is she's drinking mine. You know what? Keep reading?
I need to know now.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
It would be yours.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Oh okay, Yes, that's got a little she likes. I'm
old school, I'm a little I'm a little bit of
a traditionalist. Yeah, I'm gonna fuck a gorilla doll come
to life as a sex team. And I don't think
I need to be drinking piss or having her drink
my piss exactly, Yes, a definition of a hat on hat.
I'm like, isn't this enough? Lady? Isn't this enough? Celicia?
(39:24):
Now you also need my piss? I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
That's why that she got the name Salatia.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
She's insolatiable.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
You're killing me. So it says you pet her and
spank her fat ass, And it's a with two dollars size.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
If you say fat ass in reference to a gorilla,
you're already weird. If you say in reference to a toy,
that is crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
But this is it's not crazy because it's not They're
not talking about slapping the ass of a toy, because
that would be insane. But that's talking about slapping the
ass of a demon that comes out of the toy.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Oh okay, So Salata is stacked with cheeks, got it.
Her cheek game is strong, exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
This isn't weird.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Okay, you're right, I apologize. I'm not here to yuck
anyone's young.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
She also has a sexy cheer outfit.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
This is just some old pervert who's like, uh yes,
sperm drinking, piss yeah, cheerleader outfit. It's like it's starting
to be like nineties porn category. It's like, and Selasia
is also a sexy nurse and you and she's your
step mom exactly, she's your stepsister, and she has to
sleep in your bed tonight, and she forgot her underwear,
(40:48):
and she's thirsty, and all she has is a glass
of your piss.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
It says, light a white candle, burn incense, and give
a small present to welcome her into your home. And
then it says at the very end, this vessel is uncleansed.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
I'd say, yeah, waivers, you're not fucking a sex teaming upstairs,
are you? Jesus Christ? In reeks of incense and pissed
down here?
Speaker 1 (41:16):
I must just a bit take.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
This is such a weird place to be in because
it's like, I'm just horny enough and just heterosexuality is
a cage, and I'm just I'm just enough to be like,
what does salisia look like?
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Wow? For forty ninety nine cents.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
And the cost of a white candle and incense.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
You gotta include that. Sorry, doesn't come.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
With handling candle incense.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
She doesn't come with that stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
And you know you don't get the full salatia kit
in the mail.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
No, no, you gotta get it all separate. But it
always says with these eBay requires that I add the
policy on purchasing paranormal and metaphysical objects. It forbids the
sale of intangible objects like spirits, entities, luck, magic. Therefore,
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I am only selling this as a doll.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Imagine like the when the old people who invented eBay
back in like the late night you know, mid odds
were like, yeah, so people could sell stuff that they
had and maybe it's collectibles. And it's like, hey, boss,
what do we want to do about like spirits and
entities and stuff where we gonna allow people to sell
intangible objects? And it's like, I don't know, that seems
like a litigious kind of category. Let's just say no spirits,
(42:34):
no intangibles. And like someone's like when when will this
come in handy boom here we are dealing with it.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
What they were probably like, No, we're not gonna put
that because that's in set.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
We're not putting that. And then all of a sudden
they had to because someone's like, I'd like to return
my guerrilla doll and never turned into a sucubus who
drained me of piss, and.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Come, yeah, I would be pretty pissed off if that's
what happened.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Wait all I can think about right now, Roz, And
please don't take this the wrong ways. You need to
sell haunted dolls off yourself to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I think about this all the time.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I'm not saying I'm not saying that because of all
the sperm and and all that, all the sex stuff.
I'm not saying that for that reason. I'm saying your
your listeners should be purchasing a haunted ros doll for
their house and you just put some like a little
pre recorded voice stuff in there and shit and like
you know, just startle like have it play at random
times motion detected.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Don't I should just go to build a bear workshop
and just record the little messages, yes, and then just
sell them that way, is that still a thing?
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Build a Best it's gotta be if American Girls still exists.
I bet build a Bear still exists.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Can I play some ghost voices?
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Please?
Speaker 1 (43:48):
It's time for ev or evase. EVP stands for Electronic
voice phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
This is like voices that are recorded but not heard
by the natural year right.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Exactly, That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, so this was posted by Paranormal Proof official.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Okay, I mean, so it's real. Next one.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
That is what they've named their YouTube channel. I don't
know what the location is, but they captured this voice,
and I want you to tell me what you hear
the ghost.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Saying I need I think I need another time.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Don't you worry?
Speaker 2 (44:36):
I got it is tip included.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
That is not a Paranormal Proof official.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Thought, Oh, what do they think he's saying? Here's an A, B,
C D.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Did they think it was A, Hey i'm walking here.
B they don't want that, C it won't work? Or
D Hey wait what all right?
Speaker 2 (45:13):
I'm gonna have to go with B.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
They don't want that. I mean it does sound a
lot like that. They believe it was C it won't work.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I mean, they might have more like knowing the context
might make more sense too, because if they're like watching
Drugstore Cowboy, then we know him saying I'm walking here
is probably the ghost, Like, this is my favorite part
coming up.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
They were looking I think that they pulled out a
crystal and then the ghost said that won't work.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Put it away, bitch, it ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
You need something stronger for me.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Pulled out crystal, starts looking crystal. That won't work on me.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
And yeah, so that was that. Okay, here's the next one.
We've got two of them. This was posted by Ghostly
Whispers Ghostly Whispers Paranormal, and it's at a place called
Old Lions Park. Now, I was googling because I'm like,
(46:20):
where's Old Lions Parks right? Well, I googled Old Lions
Park Haunted and it led me to this blog kind
of website called thet channel dot com and it's talking
about this place that basically, there's like an urban legend
(46:44):
that in the late seventies a child says here a
child was playing on a set of swings in Lions Park,
which is in Liz Moore, I think this is in
Australia and fell off that the kid off and the
swing came back and hit the child, and that was
(47:05):
it for the child. And now it's haunted.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Oh might it's a haunted mite. It's a bit haunted now,
ain't it.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
But people still hear screams, laughing children, you know, all
this kind of spooky stuff. It's like the haunted woods
of this area.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I will say, ever since the TV show Are You
Afraid of the Dark?
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Nickelodeon Haunted, its benefically approve about the midsnight Society. I
call this story the Lion Park.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
In the credits, they have the swing that is just swinging,
and that is that is a haunting image. It's just
a swing swing night. And now you're telling me the
swing killed the kid.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Oh well, But here's the fun thing about this website,
this blog. It must be a popular blog because there's
a lot of comments that people had shared their stories
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Oh cool, and once stood out to.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Me so a user named Peter wrote, the old Lions
Park used to be a gay beat. When one time
at night I was with a guy. We saw someone
watching us in the scrub less than three feet away.
It was a bright moonlight night. The person stood there strangely,
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slightly slender wearing a cameo top in jeans. We indicated
for him to join us. He made no sound either
from the dry leaves and sticks, which snap if you
slightly moved. Me and my companion looked for a moment
at each other and then back again at the other guy,
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and he completely vanished with no sound. It would have
been impossible that that could happen due to the sound
and visibility. We both felt a strange chill in the air.
We realized what happened and that it could have only
been a ghost which spoiled the mood, and we couldn't
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leave quicker.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
A ghost spoiled the moon quicker than like a creep
watching them gay guys rule, like a dude watching them,
like hey, come on, come.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
On over, gay guys rule. And then I started reading
more and more comments, and it was like, yeah, this place,
like too many people were having sex of this park.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
So that's really funny the idea of a haunted park.
But it's also a cruising site, and so then you're
like a like a closed minded ghost from like the
early twentieth century. It was like get these puffas addy,
and then like there they have to watch guys just
fu fuck all day long and night. Yeah, like boo,
and they're like do you want to join? He's like,
(49:46):
I'm trying to steal you. Get over Are you handsome
as ghosts through a top of the bottom?
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Oh my god, you're killing me to that.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
That is such a funny idea. I'll haunt this park
for my life and just every night has to watch dudes. Okay,
all right, well maybe tonight I'll be able to scare someone.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Get over here you so anyway? Oh sorry, I forgot
what we were doing here. We're doing EVPs, so or
EV please thank you? So this was a ev P
that I think was taken at that park called old
Ian's Park. Anyway, what oh fark.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
I'm going to I'm about to bush? Are you on prep? Sorry?
Let's EV please.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
It's really good.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
It's someone inhaling a pauper. It is a scary noise.
That is like if I heard that noise, I'd be scared.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
Did they think it was a it's hot out here? B?
How do you know? C?
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Hurry up.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Or d I can't even.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
Oh, I don't hear many words in there, but I'm
gonna hurry up. Seems like something.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
They believe it was b How do you know?
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Maybe so maybe it was like the gay guys saw
the ghosts and they're like, oh, that's just a ghost,
and he's like, how do you.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Know that ghost isn't gay? How do you wink? I've
been around for millennia. You think I haven't eaten an
ass or two?
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Okay, last thing hit me. I'm just gonna list like
paranormal things, and I'm curious if you have any thought.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
That's a great ring. By the way, I want to
thank you.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Isn't it great? You know I got it? Wacko on Sunset.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Oh, I was like in Texas, that's pronounced yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:34):
Wacko on Sunset is my favorite store in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
I'll check it out. It looks that's cool as shit.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
It's just like Evil Eye. Anyone listening, but it's like
a plastic anyway. Okay, just tell me what you think
about these things?
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Ouiji boards.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
I I can't believe a board game that is sold
at Toys r US is scary, but it is. We
have one. We have a vintage one in our We're
not allowed to use. It's only for it's only for decoration.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Where'd you get it?
Speaker 2 (53:05):
My wife tracked it down, like bought a vintage one.
It was like from nineteen seventy something and eBay, yeah,
I guess at night it comes the life that sucks
me off. But otherwise no, it's it's terrifying. We don't
we're not allowed to play with him, but it's just
out for in the in the October spooky season. D
(53:31):
r I n K P I S.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
What do you think of the month man?
Speaker 2 (53:48):
I am hoped to meet him someday, asking what it
was like to work with Richard.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Gear Yeah, ask him the story is it's true, it
was a haunted Gerbil doll. What do you think of
past lives?
Speaker 2 (54:10):
Ooh, that's that's a that's an interesting one. I it
requires a belief in, like a whole new understanding of
how the afterlife and all that works. But it's hard,
it's hard to completely rule that out. But that one's
kind of exciting that spiritually we will continue on. But
if I don't remember any of my past lives when
I do my next life, will I remember?
Speaker 1 (54:30):
What's the point?
Speaker 2 (54:30):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1 (54:31):
So do you think that you've lived past lives?
Speaker 2 (54:35):
I think so it's possible you know, people say stuff
like when they have like a specific affinity it or
something like, you know, my wife really likes like a
certain era of design and stuff. And she believes that's
partially because here, Like she'll like do the math and
she's like, imagine if I was born here and then
I would have died at this age and then that
I was alive for this, And I'm like, oh yeah,
I mean maybe.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
It makes sense what era is she into.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
She's into like the roaring roaring twenties and then like
also to jump back to like the Victorian like she's
really and for me, I'm like, yeah, maybe because I
have such an affinity for the ocean that I don't like,
but because my wife is like, maybe you were someone
and I'm like, but man, yeah, but I like I
grew up on Long Island, like a few miles from
(55:18):
the beach. It's like it's probably nurture more than it
is nature at that point of like Long Island.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Wait a second, there's so much iconic paranormal stuff.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
Oh yeah, we have we have Mount Misery, which is.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Our Wait, I don't know that one. I was going
to say, Amnyville horror.
Speaker 2 (55:35):
We got Amnyvill horror. We got the Montalk Monster. We
have Theresakaputosa on the Long Island medium. They call me
the Long Island double XL.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
What what is the Mount Mount Misery.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
It's like a road that goes up into the woods
in Long Island, on Long Island, and everyone believes that
there's crazy stuff. Yeah, she's up there bashing Jamie Jimmy
Conn's ankles with a sledgehammer. Me. No, It's this like
road that goes to almost nowhere and everyone has had
(56:10):
some like they say that there's a church there, and
people there is a church there, and then people believe
that they've seen the cross upside down and they've seen
people in robes. This is like stuff you hear as legend.
You don't know what's real. But I will say my
one experience with Mount Misery was we drove up in
my friend my friend got this is tie everything we've
(56:31):
talked about together. My friends got his first car. He
bought it off his mom's psychic for fifty dollars. It
was in nineteen seventy five. Ford Ltd. Which is about
the length of a cruise ship. It's enormous and it
sits three in the front three in the back, me, him,
another buddy, and two girls were all going out. We
(56:51):
made stolen cocktails and we smoked some weed and we
got in this car and we're going to drive up
to Mount Misery and the girls are like, I don't know.
We're like, oh, yeah, we should do. It'd be totally cool.
And we start driving up and the road keeps getting
narrow and narrowing a little more overgrown with brush, and
then there's headlights behind us, and my buddy who's driving,
is like freaking out a little bit. He's like, oh,
these guys are out my fucking ass. I just want
(57:12):
to drive slow, you know. And we're seventeen, so we're
like eighteen, we just got cars. And he's like, oh fuck,
you know, and this guy's and I'm like, okay, it's
all right, it's a right. So we keep driving and
we get to just a random like dead end, you know,
where like there's just like a yellow diamond sign with
nothing on it and like a guardrail, and we're like, shit,
we're in the middle of the woods. We got to
turn around, but his car is so big. He's like, shit,
these guys behind me are gonna flip out. So their
(57:34):
headlights are like beaming on us. He starts doing like
a twenty eight point turn, and then the headlights turn
off and we're like, oh okay, like thank you. You
can tell you're blasting us. And then when we fully
turn around and drive out, we never encounter that car,
and it was pretty scary and like we got we
got really creeped out. Now, could that a car have
(57:56):
just shut its lights off, turned around or driven backwards
out of it? Completely possible, But we unpacked it for
like an hour afterwards, and we're like, something weird happened
up there.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
Yeah, I can't believe you save that till the end.
I can't believe I've finished.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
I can't believe it didn't come up earlier. I guess
I didn't. I consider that more in the realm of
urban legends and stuff like that, I get.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
I like urban legends.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
Shit, girl, I'm sorry. Yeah, it was a fucking ride.
As a matter of fact, I think next time I
go home to visit, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna
head up.
Speaker 1 (58:28):
There and come back to report.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
I will. I'll report back.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Have you been to the Amneyville house.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
We've driven past it, We've never like tried to get
in there. There's also like an empty uh insane asylum
on Long Island too, that's supposed to be haunted that
like squatters were living in for years after and stuff
like that. Yeah, Long Island has a lot of that.
It's proximity to New York City, and it's like aged,
like it's been around for a long time. And probably
the atrocities that were visited upon the native and indigenous
(58:55):
populations over you know, centuries, this probably doesn't help the vibes. Yeah,
and now Long Island is terrifying for a number of
different reasons. As today is January sixth, te.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
Tying it all together, well, gabras Ras, I'm so sad
we can't use any of this. Tell people where they
can find you.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
I'm at gabras on all social media. I have a
podcast called I.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Just started Thinking about the the Haunted you.
Speaker 2 (59:30):
In your home, asking me to drink piss. My podcast
High and Mighty is just a chat show with other
comedians and interesting people. If you're a Roz fan, maybe
start with her episode We had a good Time and
then I also have a podcast called Action Boys, which
is three middle aged men discussing classic action movies of
(59:53):
the seventies, eighties, and nineties. It's behind a paywall, but
we have hundreds of episodes so it might be of value.
And we also have some free episodes at free dot
Action Boys dot Biz Boys with a Z and who
do you Do that with? My friends Ben Rogers and
Ryan Stanger. They're two very funny UCB comedian guys podcaster. Yeah, yeah,
it's a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Well, thank you for joining me, Thank.
Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
You for having me. What a treat. I got to
get home and get on eBay asas.
Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Thank you so much to John Gabris. I was sweating
profusely from the laughter during that. Holy shit, anyway, that
was really fun and dirty, naughty. Hey, thank you so
(01:00:48):
much for supporting this show. Of course, you know all
the things where to find me, the things I got
going on, all that, and I hope you have a
full and prosperous new year. We are celebrating six years
of this podcast Ghosted, and I appreciate you so much
(01:01:09):
for listening. I love you all, both living and dead.
But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
haunt mekay back. This has been an exactly right production.
Want to share your paranormal experience. On the podcast, I
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So email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.
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My senior producer is the startling Jihae. Associate producer is
the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound
designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is
the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair
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raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. My theme music is by the
spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac,
Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the
chilling Karen Kilgareff, the spooky Georgia hard Stark, and the
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Frightening Danielle Kramer.
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