June 19, 2025 • 33 mins
In this episode, Morgan opens with a foremother meditation honoring the legacy of 1936 Olympic track and field star Tidye Pickett, a trailblazer whose story deserves to be told. Vanessa and Morgan then have a powerful intergenerational dialogue with next-gen Nyra. Vanessa leads a transformative lesson on how to share power and build community across generations, offering insights on fostering meaningful connections with younger changemakers. And, of course, Nyra brings trekker testimonies that breathe even more life into the conversation. This episode invites us all to step into deeper solidarity across generations.
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We are sick and tired of being sick and tired.
The. Disrespected person in America
is the black woman. But still like dust.
Pretty girls in the VIP, they came.
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With drain, they'll need ideas with mundane.
The revolution will not be televised, brother.
You are by the new Joe John. Even if you are not ready.
For the day, it cannot always benight.
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Shabuya Shah. Shabuya.
Roll call. Everybody out there.
Where are you? What is your name?
Say it loud. Say it proud.
My name is Morgan. I'm here with my girl Vanessa.
Are you there? V love y'all.
Y'all, it's week 10. It's day four of week 10.
I hope you got your four walks in.
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Tade Pickett. Anybody.
Has anybody heard of her? Have either of you heard of her?
Todd A Pickett. I have not.
I haven't. Either y'all about to break it
down. Todd A Pickett was the first
black woman to compete in the Olympic Games.
She was in the 1936. She, I mean, she broke ground
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for female black athletes. Everybody remembers the 1936
Olympics. It's when the Nazis was hosting
and Hitler was there and Jesse Owens.
We did a great black history boot camp on Jesse Owens.
Y'all go ahead and step out ontoyour porch.
Everybody remembers Jesse Owens winning 4 gold medals.
But it was Tidy Pickett's inclusion that broke ground for
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generations of black female athletes.
She was from Chicago. She was a powerful runner in
sports teams and clubs. So we are going to dedicate
today's episode to Tidy Pickett,the first black female Olympian.
And if you Google her name, she's adorable and she's doing a
high jump and it's just amazing.So I'm so glad to learn about
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her today. So today is dedicated to play
and to sport. So step out onto your porch if
you have not already done so. Please, please ground yourself.
Find your footing, put your feetunderneath your hips.
Take a breath for yourself. Gently close your eyes and
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listen. With your eyes closed, continue
to breathe deeply in and out. You are here, you are rooted,
you are listening. Listen, do you hear birdsong?
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Do you hear wind in the trees? Maybe hear the hum of a lawn
mower or a car? Maybe the little roll of
footsteps or a basketball in thedistance?
What do you hear? Now listen closer.
Let's listen through our historyand our childhoods.
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Can you hear the slap of hands of Miss Mary Mack, Mack Mack,
all dressed in black, black, black echoing down through the
years. The clink of beads and
barrettes, The hum of braided hair as you run down the
streets. The soft skid of chalk across
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sidewalks marking out a game of hopscotch.
The slow count 123 jump. The shake of jacks, the double
Dutch ropes slapping against your driveway, a syncopation
passed down like scripture. Widen your ears to listen to the
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block. Now breathe into your legs.
Feel the power there. Ancestral, present and future.
You are still, but the world is is moving.
But the world is moving. Can you hear it?
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Hear the scratch of bike tires or Bab brakes, The screech of
laughter as girls race to the corner and back, the beat from a
phone speaker bouncing from yourstoop?
Can you hear the tambourine fromthat storefront church down the
block? Can you hear the call and
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response? We are here.
Listen wider to our community. Breathe in deeply into your back
this time. Let it hold the memory and carry
the sound. Listen beyond your block.
Hear the marching band practicing at the park, the rat
a tat tat of the snares or the shout of the drum major.
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The chalk of boots in unison. Girls on the drill team moving
like Thunder with precision and pride.
Can you hear the chant of cheerleaders under the Friday
Night Lights? The voice of your auntie calling
you home to dinner before the porch lights?
Come on, we are here, we are listening.
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Black girl play is not just noise.
It is the music of our lives. It is our resistance.
It is our inheritance. Are you ready for today, y'all?
Let's go out and walk. Thank you for that, Morgan.
The clink of the beads. I really love that meditation.
And allow me to take some very deep breaths.
Y'all hope you are taking some deep breaths.
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I'm going to tell you right now to go ahead and step off your
porch and pass the driveway and just start walking because it's
Talk Back Thursday. And I'm not going to do a
self-care audit on this episode because Morgan, it's our last
Talk back Thursday, and I wantedto create more space for more
voices. Because.
Y'all's voices have been some ofthe most powerful content across
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these 10 weeks and I wanted to assure women, Morgan, that this
was not going to be the end of their voices guiding this
movement. This is actually the beginning
and we are going to be transitioning from self-care
school into the summer of Solidarity and we're going to be
creating a weekly platform and opportunity.
Y'all for you to sound off, for you to share advice for you to
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share testimonies for you to share, praise reports for you to
guide us. So I just want to make more
space on this call, Naira. I know you've been every single
week selecting voices to come inand especially looking at those
voices through a Nexrogen lens. I chose some additional voices
for this episode y'all, because I was just like, I just want to
create space on this talk back Thursday.
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The wisdom, the power, the the confidence, just the the the
energy of what you guys are sharing.
It's just so beautiful. So are you there Naira?
I am. It's been very inspiring.
I'm, I'm so grateful to sit under so much wisdom and to not
only that, but to hear real women and what they're actually
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going through in life. And I think a lot of times we
see a lot of glitz and glam, butwe don't get down to the nitty
gritty and some stuff that actually matters and what we
need to know as young women. And so I'm so grateful that I
had the opportunity to just listen to young women and share
their voices throughout self-care school.
Yeah, let's get it. Let's hear y'all enjoy this
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walk. I hope you're laced up, I hope
you're outside and just listen to the sisterhood that you are a
part of. Good morning, my name is Alfreda
and I'm calling from Alkaloo, South Carolina.
This caregiving episode has beena blessing to me.
I am calling because my husband had had a stroke 10 years ago
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and he cannot walk or talk here in Alkaloo, South Carolina.
My church created a year after his stroke a home health care
agency called Hath Faith Cares, LLC, and it's been a blessing.
You can find out more about havefaithcares@alcolu.org.
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That's ALCOL u.org. Thank you.
As we're talking about caregiving this week, it made me
think of my friend Ashley. She has a podcast called Ask a
NICU Mama, which is there to help connect and support
families of children who are in the NICU for however long
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they're there. She also wrote a children's book
called It's a NICU World, and she has made a journal for
families who are have their child in the NICU now.
And it helps them know what kinds of questions to ask, what
kind of information to keep track of, a place to share their
thoughts and their fears and their challenges.
And I'm so proud of the way thatshe has used her difficulties as
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a way to support other family. Hello, thank you for the
caregiving topic this week. It's right on time.
I'm starting my clinical hours to become a death doula and it
death dual is specifically provide non medical support to
those that are transitioning or prepare people for their
transition with on their paperwork and putting things in
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order like healthcare proxy, advanced care directives,
etcetera. So I'm getting a lot and
learning a lot from you guys today.
So I can't wait to hear how the rest of the weeks goes as well.
If there's any chance to bring greater awareness, please reach
out. This is the daughter of Ruby,
who's the daughter of Brenda. Thank you Morgan and Vanessa for
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Week 9 Episode 2, sharing the name of Erica Ryder for the
Solidarity spotlight on someone who can give amazing advice
around parenting. She is the author of My Sister's
Keeper and interactive workbook to help mothers of special needs
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children thrive. She is a crew leader in Durham,
NC and I feel privileged to walkwith her on this journey, but so
blessed to. See how she support.
Other sisters walking. Hey girl Trek family, this is
Serena checking in from Tacoma, WA.
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Also want to shout out the Seattle crew want to say thank
you so much for the blessings ofself-care schools.
This eight weeks has been so refreshing.
Thank you, thank you. Thank you for all you've shared
about EFT tapping. Thank you for including
alternative healing modalities. I'm an EFT tapping practitioner
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in Tacoma, WA. My business is Daring to Thrive
EFT tapping. Also want to shout out my
sister, Doctor Candy Lewis Williams, who is also an EFT
tapping practitioner with the Lotus concept.
We are both girl truckers and tapping practitioners.
All right, Morgan and Naira, nowthat we've brought some voices
in on this last Talkback Thursday of this series, I want
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to teach really two important skills and have a really, I
think, necessary and timely conversation.
I want to talk about how we can honor the next generation's
power and how we can share powerwith them.
And I want to start by asking you a question, Morgan, what was
the first presidential election that you voted in?
Do you remember? I think Clinton.
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Yeah, Bush, you and I are the same age.
And for me it was 1996 and it was Bill Clinton versus Bob
Dole. And then Ross Perot was in that
election. Do you remember that?
It was the 1996 election, so. I mean, I think I voted, but I
don't even know how you rememberall this.
I don't even remember who I was voting for while I was.
Voting I. Think I was.
In college, I knew it was Bill Clinton, but I looked, I looked
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it up to see who was in the race.
Last night I was having a conversation with a bunch of
millennials and Gen. Z's, and the millennials told me
that the first election they voted in was Barack Obama.
So I actually wanted to start with just a reminder of what the
generations actually are. So first of all, there's the
boomer generation that's ages 61to 79.
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People who were in the boomer generation were were shaped by
the civil rights movement, Vietnam, the assassination of
MLK and Malcolm X. They were likely the a lot of
them were the first in their white workplaces and government
are in higher education and theywere taught a lot about
discipline and grounding and honoring them, the elders.
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And that's what they were going through the boomers.
So when they're talking about how we engage now, they're
informed by the civil rights movement, Vietnam and the
assassinations that they experienced.
When you move on from the boomergeneration, you move into my
generation, Morgan's generation,which is Gen.
X. That's people ages 45 to 60.
Our first political memories were Reaganomics, the crack
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epidemic, the Cold War fears, the AIDS crisis, Rodney King,
the LA uprisings. And we are informed by that
right now as we're talking abouthow do we engage?
It's it's really shaped our thought process and our
opinions. And then after Gen.
Z, we have millennials. Millennials are ages 29 to 44.
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They came up in the age of 911, the War on Terror, the 2008
Great Recession, and a lot of them the their first election
was the Obama era. So they got to witness and
shepherd in the first black family to be in the White House.
And then we move now to the Gen.Z generation, which is ages 13
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to 28. They, their first memory was the
Obamas in the White House. But then also a lot of them in
their first election watched therise of white supremacy.
They lived through the COVID-19 pandemic.
A lot of them lost their graduations and jobs and safety
Nets during that time. They lived through the George
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Floyd uprising, the largest protest movement in U.S. history
since the civil rights movement.Climate crisis, mass shootings,
reproductive rollbacks. That's what has shaped the
generation of Generation Z. So I just wanted to give that
context for everybody. I want to play this clip from
Roland Martin, and then I want to play a clip from a next Gen.
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who is responding to Roland Martin.
And then I want to have a conversation around the current
times and how we can actually start to seed and share power
with the next generation. Gen.
X, Millennials and Gen. Z, these are this is the
generations that are what I callpost civil rights movement
babies. Those 3 generations have been
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making withdrawals from the Black Bank of Justice and have
not made reciprocal deposits. We cannot continue to ask baby
boomers who are now in their 70sand 80s to keep doing the work
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while we sit our ass at brunch, while we hang out, or we take
multiple vacations or while we check out of the process and sit
down on the couch. The reason black voter turn out
is down, it's not because we just so just checked out.
It's because the black infrastructure going door to
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door precincts, voter mobilization.
Those people are retired or theydied and we have to somehow wake
the hell up and realize now is our time.
You've been bitching about the baton.
Now it's time for your ass to run the RIP.
Victoria. Was trying to weigh in two
hours. Ago.
Go ahead, Victoria, and then tie.
I'm grateful to have literally grown up in this movement under
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the leadership of people like Reverend Sharpton, Hazel Dukes,
Tameka Mallory, you, Angela. That was a privilege in and of
itself. But not all young people have
that. And so some of these, some of
the young people that are are entering this field are
literally entering with nothing but emotions from lived
experiences, emotion and conversation.
And it's on us to make sure thatwe're creating spaces for them
to harness that emotion into change.
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There are young people who want to get involved but feel like
they have no reach, no power, noentryway.
And it's our job as activists. It's also the job of older
generations to call us in instead of calling us out.
I agree that there's a disconnect between the season
generation and my generation, but I don't necessarily think
it's accurate to say that it's all on us.
The art of mentorship and guidance is completely lost.
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Like how do you call yourself a mentor and say that you're
passing the but the first time your mentee make some mistakes,
you dip out on them or because you disagree on our versions of
liberation, we're not worthy of teaching anymore.
The baton can only be passed if one person let's go of the end.
And so we're constantly being told that we have to abide by
the hierarchy, that we have to wait our turn, that we have to,
you know, but when we try, we'reliterally dismissed or
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gaslighted. So which one is it?
Do you want us to stand up or doyou want us to stand behind you?
You can't just teach our historyto those who already know it.
Sometimes you have to pick the young person who you might not
usually pick out of the crowd. You have to pick the young
person that needs it the most. That might not show up to the
event, that might not show up tothe rally, the protest.
You pick the young person who needs the help the most.
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And while we're also at it, we kind of have to acknowledge that
we play right into the hands of respectability politics.
Like, why do I have to have lookat my nails, y'all?
Why do I have to have short nails and no lashes?
Because to, you know, to fight for my people.
Like whose respect am I trying to earn?
I can't tell you how many times I've heard even from my own mom,
shout out, Mama, I love you. But I can't tell you how many
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times I've heard all your lashesare too long or your shorts are
too short or you have tattoos and they're going to look at you
differently. Like my own people are looking
at me different. Please tell me how that's any
different than palm colored folks looking at would do from
what they do to us. And that in and of itself is
white supremacy. But a lot of the older
generation is not trying to havethat conversation because they
grew up in the era where Sunday best is every single day, which
I absolutely respect. But why can't you respect my
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choice to not play into the hands of white supremacy?
And why can't you acknowledge that I can still fight the same
fight with my long hair, my longflashes and my shark?
Nails. Oh fantastic yeah.
So that's the native Land podcast.
It's Andrew Andrew Gilliam and Angela Rye.
And I want to shout out to them because at first it was first
they had Roland on and he gave that comment and said that they
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were just withdrawing from the bank.
And the uproar was so significant that they then did
another episode where they actually had some Next Gen. on
to respond to him. And that's when Victoria came
on. And I wanted to bring that her
voice in because I thought she broke it down better certainly
than I even could. That first of all, we have to
call them in, not call them out.The first question I have for us
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to think about is what do we owethe women who have come before
us? We have to identify and define
what we owe them. What celebration, what off ramp
from their work, what soft placeto land, whatever, before we can
even talk about who can replace them, What do we owe the women
who came before us? And then I think the second
question is, what's the difference between honoring a
legacy and gatekeeping it? And how do we not gatekeep so
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that we can open up more pathways?
And then I think we have to all ask us in every room we enter
in, who's not in the room because we haven't made space,
who's not in the room but shouldbe in the room.
I think we have to ask ourselveswhat decisions are being made
for young women without them present?
I think we have to ask how can we institutionalized their power
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and not just mentor it? I think we have to ask, are we
still leading because we are effective or because we are
afraid to let go? I think we can ask ourselves,
are we judging young women, women by standards rooted in
patriarchy or white supremacy? Can we recognize healing,
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storytelling, technology, and joy, even as, like Morgan was
saying, as real forms of activism?
What would it look like to resource new leadership?
And then lastly, what does it look like to prepare the next
generation in real ways? So those are some questions that
I hope we all ask. And Morgan in real time, a good
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example for this of me, for me is here in Washington, DC, an
honored and respected, one of the oldest black women in
Congress. She represents Washington, DC
Her name is Eleanor Holmes Norton, and this week there's
been a lot of conversation abouther in the news.
She is a living legend. She's a civil rights warrior.
She's a daughter of the movement.
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And she is also getting ready toturn 88 years old.
And also, if you look at the ageof the black women in Congress
and if you specifically look at Mrs. Eleanor Holmes Norton, a
lot of conversation has been happening here in DC around if
she should run again because she's announced that she is
running. She's like, she's like, I still
got you said I still got more fight in me.
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No, but Morgan, last night, all the Gen.
Z black girls were like, do you know how many talented young
black women are ready to step into that position here in DC?
And they were like, she needs tostep aside so that they could
step in. And they were saying that this
was an exact example of how we basically like we have these
heroes and we honor them in sucha way.
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And they were that's why I askedwhat do what does it look like
for us to honor them but make space because.
And what do we owe the women? Because the conversation we were
having, they were like, well, weowe them an off ramp.
They was like, we owe them an off ramp, but they also owe us
space to step in. And I thought it was so such a
good question because I'm sure she does maybe have more fight
in her. And also, at 88 years old and 30
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years in Congress, is it time for you to make space?
But we could look at that as an asset.
And she has 30 years of experience that no, none of us
can compare to. I mean, you and I have been
having this. We just had this conversation
last week and I was like, it's time for us to step down, Lee.
I was like, we need to, we need to provide space.
Open the mic up for for next Gen.
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Naira. I have a question.
Yeah, please. In this journey of building this
amazing movement with so many women coming along with you all
in the past decade, like who have you all been able to mentor
or have you all had somebody that y'all took under your wings
to prepare them for what's to come?
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I will say really quickly, because this is the actual the
first skill, which was how to share power.
And the the the first skill thatI have around how we can share
power is we can redesign the runof show.
And at every event, at rallies, at parades, at panels, at any
places where we have platform, we can createspace for real
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voices of the next generation toshow up.
And that is exactly why you're on every week naira, because we
really value your opinion and wewanted to createspace.
So redesigning the run of show and all the ways that we can
y'all in our world, that's what we should be doing.
And then I'll just share the other the other recommendations
that I have. We can fund the future.
So we can use our dollars to help launch youth LED
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initiatives and to really investin next generation ideas.
And it only takes a little little, little bit of money
y'all to launch something. And Girl Check was launched with
$1000. And so just think about all of
the the young folks who you know, who have ideas out there,
we can put some real money behind them.
We can create transition milestones.
So when some people step back from leadership, we can honor
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them and we can name what they built.
And then we can createspace for other people to step in.
So real celebration so that it doesn't feel like it's some sort
of adversary situation. And then we can really build
accountability so we can hold the next Gen. accountable by
being their advisors, by being their mentors and by being
supportive of them. So those are just some of the
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skills right away that we can doso that we can start to share
power with the next generation. And I and I think that's what
we're doing, Morgan. I love that and I want to make
sure Naira your question was answered because I think it's a
good question and I loved I loved all those ways to share
power be but do you like I want to make sure that we answer that
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because I think it's because I think it's weird Naira.
I think it's weird that like when you, not you, but when a
person is in the stuff, I don't know if you always see your
power and your leadership, you understand what I mean?
Like you sitting over there, like I wonder who going to come
take? It's you, it's you girl, it's
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you. It's always been you.
That's what I'm saying. And so like, I think, I mean, I
remember feeling like that. I think we have this kind of
imposter syndrome sometimes to think like, you know, you know,
they say if not me, then who is?Is she is.
I can't wait for y'all to lead. I can't wait for it.
Yeah. So sorry.
I just wanted to make sure that we circled back there.
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Naira, was that what you were asking or did you want?
Are you really looking for something completely different?
Sorry sis. In a way, yeah.
But also outside of the girl trick community or like somebody
outside that has reached out or somebody that outside.
Like I know you said people on the team that you've
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strategically like recruited andpulled into the movement.
But like is there somebody that you've connected with outside of
this room that like you've been undergirding to push them for
greater to? And I'll actually name because
it's such a good question. I have poured almost all of my
capacity back into my family andinto my younger cousins.
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And in particular, I have workedreally hard to dismantle the
myth that you have to have some sort of excellence, or that
Morgan and I have some sort of excellence that my own little
cousins don't have. That put us in this position
because when we first started doing this work and we were
getting on Ted and getting in the news, my family started to
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feel a separation, I think, between what I was doing and
what they thought possible for them to do.
And particularly my little cousins thought because they
hadn't gone to college, for example, that they couldn't
enter into this space. And over the last couple of
years in particular, I have one of my little cousins.
Shout out to her, Sharda. She had become really interested
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in nonprofits, but she was intimidated by the language, by
the idea, by what to do. And so, yeah, I have been
talking her through and walking her through in the most girl.
It's just basic. We just be doing this.
We just kind of this, it just belike this.
And I actually want to lift her up because Sharde went from a
story that you just could not even imagine.
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I'm talking about incarceration and in foster care and all sorts
of things and not really seeing a pathway for her own self.
And I remember like literally maybe like five years ago when I
would talk about this work, she would just be like, I don't even
get that. I don't even, you know, like,
she was just super dismissive, dismissive of it until two years
ago, her reaching out and being like, I'm thinking about
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entering and rolling into school, which was such a big
deal. And I was like, you can do what?
You can do it. And she used to kind of, you
know, how people downplay their own likability.
She would be like, oh, this thing, Oh, this thing.
And I just want to say that nextweek, she's graduating from
Tacoma College and that she's been interning for the past six
months at a really beautiful nonprofit in Tacoma that's
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helping homeless folks. And that she has been aligned
with her story, her own personalstory now being able to help
people. And I think she sees a pathway
for her. And so for me, when I am
thinking about the next generation, I'm especially
thinking about like Victoria, who we heard from earlier, she
was so articulate. And we we think about the people
who, you know, are in the internship programs already in
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doing that. But I'm really thinking about
the young girls who often feel disconnected from this type of
stuff. Because I promise, if you had
met Morgan and I back in 1996 when we was rolling through
those streets in LA, like we were those girls.
We weren't the girls who I thinkyou would have identified or
picked to say they're going to lead a national movement.
They're going to be on the Ted stage, they're going to be
organizing. I know for sure that there were
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so many people in my own family,in my own community who were
just like, what? What that girl, I had somebody
actually from my from my high school who told me that like
they were trying to give me a compliment, but they just told
me this recently. They was like, girl, we was like
you. And I was like, yeah, yeah,
yeah, me, yeah, yeah, me. That's why I didn't get you
written words out your mouth because it was me.
And and so I just want, I pray and hope that just through the
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authentic way that we are leading and moving and and
building community that we're creating that type of space.
That's awesome. Yeah.
Thank you all. Thank you all for all the work
that you're doing in the sacrifices that you made for
this movement. It doesn't go unnoticed.
Thank you for that Naira and thank you for the conversation.
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Morgan, I want to close out by sharing.
I talked about how we can share power.
And then I also want to talk about sometimes we can build the
bridges and it's, it's just, it's a little bit different.
We're passing along the power, but how can we be in spaces
together and how can we really start to encourage young women
not to have that imposter syndrome?
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And I want to encourage everybody out there that we need
to be validating the new forms of leadership and the new ways
that the next generation is showing up.
That especially means honoring, say, how they're organizing on
social media. That means honoring even the
idea of joy and rest as actual resistance and celebration as
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resistance in the Morgan in the way that Morgan talked about
earlier, that it doesn't always have to look like struggle.
And so we really need to validate our younger, the
younger women in our lives. We really need to share the
playbook and archive the playbook.
And by that I mean, we have so much like game that we could put
young girls onto, but we ourselves need to take a step to
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even document it for our own selves.
It's why I loved the episode that we did yesterday, Morgan,
where we were walking through how young girls can choose
partners and how we were breaking it down, right?
And you were saying like, well, these are the choices that I
made. We need to do way, way, way more
of that. We really need to document our
own lessons learned and we need to be sharing them in really
practical ways. And then we really need to be
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thinking about intergenerationalcouncils and all of the ways at
every level from the local to the city to the national.
I'm talking about even within our walking crews, we can look
at our walking crews as intergenerational councils.
And your walking crew, y'all could have some Gen.
Z, some elder, some mid career members, some millennials.
If it's just you and just your peoples at just your age, then
really consider how does your walking crew itself become an
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intergenerational council. Well, yeah, I hope you have
loved this talk back Thursday. Just thinking back to how we
started this walk. Hopefully you're returning home
feeling refreshed. Hopefully your body is feeling
good. We've heard from so many members
from around the country. We've had a really beautiful
conversation in solidarity with our peoples at Roland Martin and
Native Land around how we start to share power.
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We've walked through some of thetips and tricks and I just want
to close out Morgan with a little black girl Soldier by
Jamilia Woods. I feel like it's an
intergenerational song that's really just making eye contact
with who we are and where we areright now.
So I'm a close out with Jamilia Woods and I'll just thank
everybody and see you tomorrow. It is our duties and fight for
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our freedom. See, she's telling that thing.
Call it black girl magic. Yeah, she scared the girl man.
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Deja Vu. A girl man.
We go missing by the hundreds. The camera loves us.
Oscar Desi. They want us in the kitchen.
Kill our sons with lynchings. We get loud about it.
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Oh, now we're the bitches. Look at what they did to my
sister last century. Last week they put a body in a
jar and forget her. They laugh out it with me.
Look at what they did to my sister last century.
We are sick and tired of being sick and tired.
The. Disrespected person in America
is the black woman. But still like dust.
Pretty girls in the VIP, they came.
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With drain, they'll need ideas with mundane.
The revolution will not be televised, brother.
You are by the new Joe John. Even if you are not ready.
For the day, it cannot always benight.
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Shabuya Shah. Shabuya.
Roll call. Everybody out there.
Where are you? What is your name?
Say it loud. Say it proud.
My name is Morgan. I'm here with my girl Vanessa.
Are you there? V love y'all.
Y'all, it's week 10. It's day four of week 10.
I hope you got your four walks in.
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Tade Pickett. Anybody.
Has anybody heard of her? Have either of you heard of her?
Todd A Pickett. I have not.
I haven't. Either y'all about to break it
down. Todd A Pickett was the first
black woman to compete in the Olympic Games.
She was in the 1936. She, I mean, she broke ground
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for female black athletes. Everybody remembers the 1936
Olympics. It's when the Nazis was hosting
and Hitler was there and Jesse Owens.
We did a great black history boot camp on Jesse Owens.
Y'all go ahead and step out ontoyour porch.
Everybody remembers Jesse Owens winning 4 gold medals.
But it was Tidy Pickett's inclusion that broke ground for
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generations of black female athletes.
She was from Chicago. She was a powerful runner in
sports teams and clubs. So we are going to dedicate
today's episode to Tidy Pickett,the first black female Olympian.
And if you Google her name, she's adorable and she's doing a
high jump and it's just amazing.So I'm so glad to learn about
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her today. So today is dedicated to play
and to sport. So step out onto your porch if
you have not already done so. Please, please ground yourself.
Find your footing, put your feetunderneath your hips.
Take a breath for yourself. Gently close your eyes and
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listen. With your eyes closed, continue
to breathe deeply in and out. You are here, you are rooted,
you are listening. Listen, do you hear birdsong?
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Do you hear wind in the trees? Maybe hear the hum of a lawn
mower or a car? Maybe the little roll of
footsteps or a basketball in thedistance?
What do you hear? Now listen closer.
Let's listen through our historyand our childhoods.
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Can you hear the slap of hands of Miss Mary Mack, Mack Mack,
all dressed in black, black, black echoing down through the
years. The clink of beads and
barrettes, The hum of braided hair as you run down the
streets. The soft skid of chalk across
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sidewalks marking out a game of hopscotch.
The slow count 123 jump. The shake of jacks, the double
Dutch ropes slapping against your driveway, a syncopation
passed down like scripture. Widen your ears to listen to the
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block. Now breathe into your legs.
Feel the power there. Ancestral, present and future.
You are still, but the world is is moving.
But the world is moving. Can you hear it?
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Hear the scratch of bike tires or Bab brakes, The screech of
laughter as girls race to the corner and back, the beat from a
phone speaker bouncing from yourstoop?
Can you hear the tambourine fromthat storefront church down the
block? Can you hear the call and
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response? We are here.
Listen wider to our community. Breathe in deeply into your back
this time. Let it hold the memory and carry
the sound. Listen beyond your block.
Hear the marching band practicing at the park, the rat
a tat tat of the snares or the shout of the drum major.
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The chalk of boots in unison. Girls on the drill team moving
like Thunder with precision and pride.
Can you hear the chant of cheerleaders under the Friday
Night Lights? The voice of your auntie calling
you home to dinner before the porch lights?
Come on, we are here, we are listening.
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Black girl play is not just noise.
It is the music of our lives. It is our resistance.
It is our inheritance. Are you ready for today, y'all?
Let's go out and walk. Thank you for that, Morgan.
The clink of the beads. I really love that meditation.
And allow me to take some very deep breaths.
Y'all hope you are taking some deep breaths.
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I'm going to tell you right now to go ahead and step off your
porch and pass the driveway and just start walking because it's
Talk Back Thursday. And I'm not going to do a
self-care audit on this episode because Morgan, it's our last
Talk back Thursday, and I wantedto create more space for more
voices. Because.
Y'all's voices have been some ofthe most powerful content across
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these 10 weeks and I wanted to assure women, Morgan, that this
was not going to be the end of their voices guiding this
movement. This is actually the beginning
and we are going to be transitioning from self-care
school into the summer of Solidarity and we're going to be
creating a weekly platform and opportunity.
Y'all for you to sound off, for you to share advice for you to
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share testimonies for you to share, praise reports for you to
guide us. So I just want to make more
space on this call, Naira. I know you've been every single
week selecting voices to come inand especially looking at those
voices through a Nexrogen lens. I chose some additional voices
for this episode y'all, because I was just like, I just want to
create space on this talk back Thursday.
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The wisdom, the power, the the confidence, just the the the
energy of what you guys are sharing.
It's just so beautiful. So are you there Naira?
I am. It's been very inspiring.
I'm, I'm so grateful to sit under so much wisdom and to not
only that, but to hear real women and what they're actually
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going through in life. And I think a lot of times we
see a lot of glitz and glam, butwe don't get down to the nitty
gritty and some stuff that actually matters and what we
need to know as young women. And so I'm so grateful that I
had the opportunity to just listen to young women and share
their voices throughout self-care school.
Yeah, let's get it. Let's hear y'all enjoy this
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walk. I hope you're laced up, I hope
you're outside and just listen to the sisterhood that you are a
part of. Good morning, my name is Alfreda
and I'm calling from Alkaloo, South Carolina.
This caregiving episode has beena blessing to me.
I am calling because my husband had had a stroke 10 years ago
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and he cannot walk or talk here in Alkaloo, South Carolina.
My church created a year after his stroke a home health care
agency called Hath Faith Cares, LLC, and it's been a blessing.
You can find out more about havefaithcares@alcolu.org.
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That's ALCOL u.org. Thank you.
As we're talking about caregiving this week, it made me
think of my friend Ashley. She has a podcast called Ask a
NICU Mama, which is there to help connect and support
families of children who are in the NICU for however long
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they're there. She also wrote a children's book
called It's a NICU World, and she has made a journal for
families who are have their child in the NICU now.
And it helps them know what kinds of questions to ask, what
kind of information to keep track of, a place to share their
thoughts and their fears and their challenges.
And I'm so proud of the way thatshe has used her difficulties as
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a way to support other family. Hello, thank you for the
caregiving topic this week. It's right on time.
I'm starting my clinical hours to become a death doula and it
death dual is specifically provide non medical support to
those that are transitioning or prepare people for their
transition with on their paperwork and putting things in
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order like healthcare proxy, advanced care directives,
etcetera. So I'm getting a lot and
learning a lot from you guys today.
So I can't wait to hear how the rest of the weeks goes as well.
If there's any chance to bring greater awareness, please reach
out. This is the daughter of Ruby,
who's the daughter of Brenda. Thank you Morgan and Vanessa for
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Week 9 Episode 2, sharing the name of Erica Ryder for the
Solidarity spotlight on someone who can give amazing advice
around parenting. She is the author of My Sister's
Keeper and interactive workbook to help mothers of special needs
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children thrive. She is a crew leader in Durham,
NC and I feel privileged to walkwith her on this journey, but so
blessed to. See how she support.
Other sisters walking. Hey girl Trek family, this is
Serena checking in from Tacoma, WA.
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Also want to shout out the Seattle crew want to say thank
you so much for the blessings ofself-care schools.
This eight weeks has been so refreshing.
Thank you, thank you. Thank you for all you've shared
about EFT tapping. Thank you for including
alternative healing modalities. I'm an EFT tapping practitioner
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in Tacoma, WA. My business is Daring to Thrive
EFT tapping. Also want to shout out my
sister, Doctor Candy Lewis Williams, who is also an EFT
tapping practitioner with the Lotus concept.
We are both girl truckers and tapping practitioners.
All right, Morgan and Naira, nowthat we've brought some voices
in on this last Talkback Thursday of this series, I want
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to teach really two important skills and have a really, I
think, necessary and timely conversation.
I want to talk about how we can honor the next generation's
power and how we can share powerwith them.
And I want to start by asking you a question, Morgan, what was
the first presidential election that you voted in?
Do you remember? I think Clinton.
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Yeah, Bush, you and I are the same age.
And for me it was 1996 and it was Bill Clinton versus Bob
Dole. And then Ross Perot was in that
election. Do you remember that?
It was the 1996 election, so. I mean, I think I voted, but I
don't even know how you rememberall this.
I don't even remember who I was voting for while I was.
Voting I. Think I was.
In college, I knew it was Bill Clinton, but I looked, I looked
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it up to see who was in the race.
Last night I was having a conversation with a bunch of
millennials and Gen. Z's, and the millennials told me
that the first election they voted in was Barack Obama.
So I actually wanted to start with just a reminder of what the
generations actually are. So first of all, there's the
boomer generation that's ages 61to 79.
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People who were in the boomer generation were were shaped by
the civil rights movement, Vietnam, the assassination of
MLK and Malcolm X. They were likely the a lot of
them were the first in their white workplaces and government
are in higher education and theywere taught a lot about
discipline and grounding and honoring them, the elders.
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And that's what they were going through the boomers.
So when they're talking about how we engage now, they're
informed by the civil rights movement, Vietnam and the
assassinations that they experienced.
When you move on from the boomergeneration, you move into my
generation, Morgan's generation,which is Gen.
X. That's people ages 45 to 60.
Our first political memories were Reaganomics, the crack
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epidemic, the Cold War fears, the AIDS crisis, Rodney King,
the LA uprisings. And we are informed by that
right now as we're talking abouthow do we engage?
It's it's really shaped our thought process and our
opinions. And then after Gen.
Z, we have millennials. Millennials are ages 29 to 44.
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They came up in the age of 911, the War on Terror, the 2008
Great Recession, and a lot of them the their first election
was the Obama era. So they got to witness and
shepherd in the first black family to be in the White House.
And then we move now to the Gen.Z generation, which is ages 13
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to 28. They, their first memory was the
Obamas in the White House. But then also a lot of them in
their first election watched therise of white supremacy.
They lived through the COVID-19 pandemic.
A lot of them lost their graduations and jobs and safety
Nets during that time. They lived through the George
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Floyd uprising, the largest protest movement in U.S. history
since the civil rights movement.Climate crisis, mass shootings,
reproductive rollbacks. That's what has shaped the
generation of Generation Z. So I just wanted to give that
context for everybody. I want to play this clip from
Roland Martin, and then I want to play a clip from a next Gen.
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who is responding to Roland Martin.
And then I want to have a conversation around the current
times and how we can actually start to seed and share power
with the next generation. Gen.
X, Millennials and Gen. Z, these are this is the
generations that are what I callpost civil rights movement
babies. Those 3 generations have been
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making withdrawals from the Black Bank of Justice and have
not made reciprocal deposits. We cannot continue to ask baby
boomers who are now in their 70sand 80s to keep doing the work
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while we sit our ass at brunch, while we hang out, or we take
multiple vacations or while we check out of the process and sit
down on the couch. The reason black voter turn out
is down, it's not because we just so just checked out.
It's because the black infrastructure going door to
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door precincts, voter mobilization.
Those people are retired or theydied and we have to somehow wake
the hell up and realize now is our time.
You've been bitching about the baton.
Now it's time for your ass to run the RIP.
Victoria. Was trying to weigh in two
hours. Ago.
Go ahead, Victoria, and then tie.
I'm grateful to have literally grown up in this movement under
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the leadership of people like Reverend Sharpton, Hazel Dukes,
Tameka Mallory, you, Angela. That was a privilege in and of
itself. But not all young people have
that. And so some of these, some of
the young people that are are entering this field are
literally entering with nothing but emotions from lived
experiences, emotion and conversation.
And it's on us to make sure thatwe're creating spaces for them
to harness that emotion into change.
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There are young people who want to get involved but feel like
they have no reach, no power, noentryway.
And it's our job as activists. It's also the job of older
generations to call us in instead of calling us out.
I agree that there's a disconnect between the season
generation and my generation, but I don't necessarily think
it's accurate to say that it's all on us.
The art of mentorship and guidance is completely lost.
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Like how do you call yourself a mentor and say that you're
passing the but the first time your mentee make some mistakes,
you dip out on them or because you disagree on our versions of
liberation, we're not worthy of teaching anymore.
The baton can only be passed if one person let's go of the end.
And so we're constantly being told that we have to abide by
the hierarchy, that we have to wait our turn, that we have to,
you know, but when we try, we'reliterally dismissed or
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gaslighted. So which one is it?
Do you want us to stand up or doyou want us to stand behind you?
You can't just teach our historyto those who already know it.
Sometimes you have to pick the young person who you might not
usually pick out of the crowd. You have to pick the young
person that needs it the most. That might not show up to the
event, that might not show up tothe rally, the protest.
You pick the young person who needs the help the most.
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And while we're also at it, we kind of have to acknowledge that
we play right into the hands of respectability politics.
Like, why do I have to have lookat my nails, y'all?
Why do I have to have short nails and no lashes?
Because to, you know, to fight for my people.
Like whose respect am I trying to earn?
I can't tell you how many times I've heard even from my own mom,
shout out, Mama, I love you. But I can't tell you how many
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times I've heard all your lashesare too long or your shorts are
too short or you have tattoos and they're going to look at you
differently. Like my own people are looking
at me different. Please tell me how that's any
different than palm colored folks looking at would do from
what they do to us. And that in and of itself is
white supremacy. But a lot of the older
generation is not trying to havethat conversation because they
grew up in the era where Sunday best is every single day, which
I absolutely respect. But why can't you respect my
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choice to not play into the hands of white supremacy?
And why can't you acknowledge that I can still fight the same
fight with my long hair, my longflashes and my shark?
Nails. Oh fantastic yeah.
So that's the native Land podcast.
It's Andrew Andrew Gilliam and Angela Rye.
And I want to shout out to them because at first it was first
they had Roland on and he gave that comment and said that they
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were just withdrawing from the bank.
And the uproar was so significant that they then did
another episode where they actually had some Next Gen. on
to respond to him. And that's when Victoria came
on. And I wanted to bring that her
voice in because I thought she broke it down better certainly
than I even could. That first of all, we have to
call them in, not call them out.The first question I have for us
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to think about is what do we owethe women who have come before
us? We have to identify and define
what we owe them. What celebration, what off ramp
from their work, what soft placeto land, whatever, before we can
even talk about who can replace them, What do we owe the women
who came before us? And then I think the second
question is, what's the difference between honoring a
legacy and gatekeeping it? And how do we not gatekeep so
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that we can open up more pathways?
And then I think we have to all ask us in every room we enter
in, who's not in the room because we haven't made space,
who's not in the room but shouldbe in the room.
I think we have to ask ourselveswhat decisions are being made
for young women without them present?
I think we have to ask how can we institutionalized their power
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and not just mentor it? I think we have to ask, are we
still leading because we are effective or because we are
afraid to let go? I think we can ask ourselves,
are we judging young women, women by standards rooted in
patriarchy or white supremacy? Can we recognize healing,
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storytelling, technology, and joy, even as, like Morgan was
saying, as real forms of activism?
What would it look like to resource new leadership?
And then lastly, what does it look like to prepare the next
generation in real ways? So those are some questions that
I hope we all ask. And Morgan in real time, a good
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example for this of me, for me is here in Washington, DC, an
honored and respected, one of the oldest black women in
Congress. She represents Washington, DC
Her name is Eleanor Holmes Norton, and this week there's
been a lot of conversation abouther in the news.
She is a living legend. She's a civil rights warrior.
She's a daughter of the movement.
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And she is also getting ready toturn 88 years old.
And also, if you look at the ageof the black women in Congress
and if you specifically look at Mrs. Eleanor Holmes Norton, a
lot of conversation has been happening here in DC around if
she should run again because she's announced that she is
running. She's like, she's like, I still
got you said I still got more fight in me.
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No, but Morgan, last night, all the Gen.
Z black girls were like, do you know how many talented young
black women are ready to step into that position here in DC?
And they were like, she needs tostep aside so that they could
step in. And they were saying that this
was an exact example of how we basically like we have these
heroes and we honor them in sucha way.
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And they were that's why I askedwhat do what does it look like
for us to honor them but make space because.
And what do we owe the women? Because the conversation we were
having, they were like, well, weowe them an off ramp.
They was like, we owe them an off ramp, but they also owe us
space to step in. And I thought it was so such a
good question because I'm sure she does maybe have more fight
in her. And also, at 88 years old and 30
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years in Congress, is it time for you to make space?
But we could look at that as an asset.
And she has 30 years of experience that no, none of us
can compare to. I mean, you and I have been
having this. We just had this conversation
last week and I was like, it's time for us to step down, Lee.
I was like, we need to, we need to provide space.
Open the mic up for for next Gen.
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Naira. I have a question.
Yeah, please. In this journey of building this
amazing movement with so many women coming along with you all
in the past decade, like who have you all been able to mentor
or have you all had somebody that y'all took under your wings
to prepare them for what's to come?
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I will say really quickly, because this is the actual the
first skill, which was how to share power.
And the the the first skill thatI have around how we can share
power is we can redesign the runof show.
And at every event, at rallies, at parades, at panels, at any
places where we have platform, we can createspace for real
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voices of the next generation toshow up.
And that is exactly why you're on every week naira, because we
really value your opinion and wewanted to createspace.
So redesigning the run of show and all the ways that we can
y'all in our world, that's what we should be doing.
And then I'll just share the other the other recommendations
that I have. We can fund the future.
So we can use our dollars to help launch youth LED
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initiatives and to really investin next generation ideas.
And it only takes a little little, little bit of money
y'all to launch something. And Girl Check was launched with
$1000. And so just think about all of
the the young folks who you know, who have ideas out there,
we can put some real money behind them.
We can create transition milestones.
So when some people step back from leadership, we can honor
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them and we can name what they built.
And then we can createspace for other people to step in.
So real celebration so that it doesn't feel like it's some sort
of adversary situation. And then we can really build
accountability so we can hold the next Gen. accountable by
being their advisors, by being their mentors and by being
supportive of them. So those are just some of the
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skills right away that we can doso that we can start to share
power with the next generation. And I and I think that's what
we're doing, Morgan. I love that and I want to make
sure Naira your question was answered because I think it's a
good question and I loved I loved all those ways to share
power be but do you like I want to make sure that we answer that
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because I think it's because I think it's weird Naira.
I think it's weird that like when you, not you, but when a
person is in the stuff, I don't know if you always see your
power and your leadership, you understand what I mean?
Like you sitting over there, like I wonder who going to come
take? It's you, it's you girl, it's
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you. It's always been you.
That's what I'm saying. And so like, I think, I mean, I
remember feeling like that. I think we have this kind of
imposter syndrome sometimes to think like, you know, you know,
they say if not me, then who is?Is she is.
I can't wait for y'all to lead. I can't wait for it.
Yeah. So sorry.
I just wanted to make sure that we circled back there.
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Naira, was that what you were asking or did you want?
Are you really looking for something completely different?
Sorry sis. In a way, yeah.
But also outside of the girl trick community or like somebody
outside that has reached out or somebody that outside.
Like I know you said people on the team that you've
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strategically like recruited andpulled into the movement.
But like is there somebody that you've connected with outside of
this room that like you've been undergirding to push them for
greater to? And I'll actually name because
it's such a good question. I have poured almost all of my
capacity back into my family andinto my younger cousins.
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And in particular, I have workedreally hard to dismantle the
myth that you have to have some sort of excellence, or that
Morgan and I have some sort of excellence that my own little
cousins don't have. That put us in this position
because when we first started doing this work and we were
getting on Ted and getting in the news, my family started to
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feel a separation, I think, between what I was doing and
what they thought possible for them to do.
And particularly my little cousins thought because they
hadn't gone to college, for example, that they couldn't
enter into this space. And over the last couple of
years in particular, I have one of my little cousins.
Shout out to her, Sharda. She had become really interested
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in nonprofits, but she was intimidated by the language, by
the idea, by what to do. And so, yeah, I have been
talking her through and walking her through in the most girl.
It's just basic. We just be doing this.
We just kind of this, it just belike this.
And I actually want to lift her up because Sharde went from a
story that you just could not even imagine.
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I'm talking about incarceration and in foster care and all sorts
of things and not really seeing a pathway for her own self.
And I remember like literally maybe like five years ago when I
would talk about this work, she would just be like, I don't even
get that. I don't even, you know, like,
she was just super dismissive, dismissive of it until two years
ago, her reaching out and being like, I'm thinking about
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entering and rolling into school, which was such a big
deal. And I was like, you can do what?
You can do it. And she used to kind of, you
know, how people downplay their own likability.
She would be like, oh, this thing, Oh, this thing.
And I just want to say that nextweek, she's graduating from
Tacoma College and that she's been interning for the past six
months at a really beautiful nonprofit in Tacoma that's
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helping homeless folks. And that she has been aligned
with her story, her own personalstory now being able to help
people. And I think she sees a pathway
for her. And so for me, when I am
thinking about the next generation, I'm especially
thinking about like Victoria, who we heard from earlier, she
was so articulate. And we we think about the people
who, you know, are in the internship programs already in
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doing that. But I'm really thinking about
the young girls who often feel disconnected from this type of
stuff. Because I promise, if you had
met Morgan and I back in 1996 when we was rolling through
those streets in LA, like we were those girls.
We weren't the girls who I thinkyou would have identified or
picked to say they're going to lead a national movement.
They're going to be on the Ted stage, they're going to be
organizing. I know for sure that there were
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so many people in my own family,in my own community who were
just like, what? What that girl, I had somebody
actually from my from my high school who told me that like
they were trying to give me a compliment, but they just told
me this recently. They was like, girl, we was like
you. And I was like, yeah, yeah,
yeah, me, yeah, yeah, me. That's why I didn't get you
written words out your mouth because it was me.
And and so I just want, I pray and hope that just through the
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authentic way that we are leading and moving and and
building community that we're creating that type of space.
That's awesome. Yeah.
Thank you all. Thank you all for all the work
that you're doing in the sacrifices that you made for
this movement. It doesn't go unnoticed.
Thank you for that Naira and thank you for the conversation.
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Morgan, I want to close out by sharing.
I talked about how we can share power.
And then I also want to talk about sometimes we can build the
bridges and it's, it's just, it's a little bit different.
We're passing along the power, but how can we be in spaces
together and how can we really start to encourage young women
not to have that imposter syndrome?
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And I want to encourage everybody out there that we need
to be validating the new forms of leadership and the new ways
that the next generation is showing up.
That especially means honoring, say, how they're organizing on
social media. That means honoring even the
idea of joy and rest as actual resistance and celebration as
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resistance in the Morgan in the way that Morgan talked about
earlier, that it doesn't always have to look like struggle.
And so we really need to validate our younger, the
younger women in our lives. We really need to share the
playbook and archive the playbook.
And by that I mean, we have so much like game that we could put
young girls onto, but we ourselves need to take a step to
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even document it for our own selves.
It's why I loved the episode that we did yesterday, Morgan,
where we were walking through how young girls can choose
partners and how we were breaking it down, right?
And you were saying like, well, these are the choices that I
made. We need to do way, way, way more
of that. We really need to document our
own lessons learned and we need to be sharing them in really
practical ways. And then we really need to be
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thinking about intergenerationalcouncils and all of the ways at
every level from the local to the city to the national.
I'm talking about even within our walking crews, we can look
at our walking crews as intergenerational councils.
And your walking crew, y'all could have some Gen.
Z, some elder, some mid career members, some millennials.
If it's just you and just your peoples at just your age, then
really consider how does your walking crew itself become an
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intergenerational council. Well, yeah, I hope you have
loved this talk back Thursday. Just thinking back to how we
started this walk. Hopefully you're returning home
feeling refreshed. Hopefully your body is feeling
good. We've heard from so many members
from around the country. We've had a really beautiful
conversation in solidarity with our peoples at Roland Martin and
Native Land around how we start to share power.
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We've walked through some of thetips and tricks and I just want
to close out Morgan with a little black girl Soldier by
Jamilia Woods. I feel like it's an
intergenerational song that's really just making eye contact
with who we are and where we areright now.
So I'm a close out with Jamilia Woods and I'll just thank
everybody and see you tomorrow. It is our duties and fight for
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our freedom. See, she's telling that thing.
Call it black girl magic. Yeah, she scared the girl man.
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Deja Vu. A girl man.
We go missing by the hundreds. The camera loves us.
Oscar Desi. They want us in the kitchen.
Kill our sons with lynchings. We get loud about it.
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Oh, now we're the bitches. Look at what they did to my
sister last century. Last week they put a body in a
jar and forget her. They laugh out it with me.
Look at what they did to my sister last century.
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