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July 10, 2025 62 mins
What if the key to healing chronic illness wasn't found in a pill bottle, but in the same frequencies that naturally flow from the sun? In this illuminating episode of HEAL with Kelly, I sit down with Robby Besner, Chief Science Officer and co-founder of Therasage, whose personal journey from desperate father to wellness pioneer has revolutionized how we think about detoxification and healing. Over 25 years ago, when his daughter was diagnosed with chronic Lyme disease, Robby watched conventional treatments drain their finances while providing minimal relief. Frustrated and determined, he dove deep into research and discovered the profound healing power of infrared frequencies — the same therapeutic wavelengths our bodies have evolved to receive from natural sunlight. You’ll learn how infrared sauna therapy works differently than traditional sauna therapy, why regular detoxification practices are paramount in today’s toxic world, and how subtle shifts — like sequencing your healing protocols — can make a profound impact on outcomes. Robby also unpacks the science behind bio-resonance, vibrational healing, and the hidden link between inflammation, toxicity, and cellular repair.   Whether you're dealing with chronic illness, seeking daily wellness optimization, or simply curious about the intersection of ancient wisdom and modern technology, this conversation will transform how you think about your body's innate ability to heal. Listeners of HEAL with Kelly can receive 25% off any Therasage product by using the code KELLY at checkout at therasage.com. LINKS Robby Besner on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theraman1 Thera Optimal Health Website: https://theraoptimalhealth.com Therasage Website: http://www.therasage.com Therasage on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therasageinfrared Key Moments You'll Love: 💔 [0:00] Introduction & Robbie's Background 🔬 [3:36] A Father's Desperate Search 🌞 [8:25] The Infrared Discovery 🔥 [19:17] The 85% Difference 💊 [29:05] The Binder Revolution 🎯 [35:55] Symptoms as Communication ❄️ [43:03] Contrast Therapy Magic ⚡ [47:46] Next-Level Light Therapy 🧠 [54:30] Wearable Healing Tech SPONSORS HONEYLOVE: Go to https://www.honeylove.com/HEAL and use our exclusive link to get 20% OFF. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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