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July 28, 2025 77 mins
In one of the most powerful moments of Lori Daybell’s Arizona trial, witness Nancy Jo Hancock turned to the woman on trial, and delivered a line that stunned the courtroom: “Don't Flatter Yourself.” Now, for the first time, Nancy Jo sits down with Hidden True Crime to share why she felt compelled to speak out, what it was like to testify against Lori, and what she learned while talking with Charles Vallow. About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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