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June 24, 2025 34 mins

Can you be in a loving, committed relationship and still want… more?

Join as Michelle MiJung Kim takes us on a wild ride through her first open relationship experience—complete with thirst traps, identity crisis, communication breakdowns, and more spiraling than she cares to admit. What began as an exploration of freedom quickly turned into a crash course in boundaries, grief, and brutal self-awareness.

With guidance from polyamory experts Leanne Yau and Jessica Fern, Michelle unpacks what it means to honor your desires, and being courageous enough to face what surfaces when you do.

Whether you’re poly, monogamous, or somewhere in between, this episode is about letting our most intimate relationships serve as a portal to our desires, wounds, and opportunities for healing and deeper connection to ourselves and each other.

ABOUT THE EPISODE GUESTS

JESSICA FERN is a Certified Clinical Trauma Professional and an integrative practitioner with 25 years of experience and training in somatic, narrative, psychotherapeutic and spiritual therapies. She is the author of Polysecure: Attachment, Trauma and Nonmonogamy and The Polysecure Workbook, and co-author of Polywise: A Deeper Dive Into Navigating Open Relationships and Transforming the Shame Triangle: From Shame to Love Using Parts Work. Learn more about Jessica at https://www.jessicafern.com.

Follow Jessica on Instagram: @jessicafern411

Jessica’s Books: Polysecure; Polywise

LEANNE YAU is a British award-winning polyamory educator, writer, speaker, certified sex and relationships educator, and trainee psychosexual therapist whose work is all about non-monogamy and sex positivity. She creates educational and entertaining multimedia content about creating healthy and sustainable non-monogamous relationships, drawing from her lived experiences as a polyamorous, bisexual, neurodivergent, kinky, and Asian agender femme who has been openly non-monogamous since 2016. Learn more about Leanne at www.polyphilia.blog.

Follow Leanne on Instagram @polyphiliablog

ABOUT THE HOST, MICHELLE MIJUNG KIM

Michelle MiJung Kim is one of today’s most compelling voices on courage, complexity, and connection. With a voice that is both precise and expansive, Michelle helps people make sense of their inner worlds and the outer chaos. Through storytelling rooted in emotional honesty, she invites us to confront what’s hard, name what matters, and move through the world with deeper integrity and courage. She is the award-winning author of The Wake Up, a globally recognized speaker, and the producer and host of I Feel That Way Too, a narrative podcast that dares to ask life’s trickiest questions so we can feel less alone—and more alive—together. Whether on stage, on the page, or behind the mic, Michelle’s presence is a mirror and a call to courage—to live our lives more fully, to build resilient relationships, and to believe in the possibility of our personal transformation and collective liberation. Learn more about Michelle at www.michellemijungkim.com and follow her journey on Instagram @michellekimkim.

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