December 4, 2025 • 41 mins
Investigative reporter and Gen-Xer Jason Leopold (Bloomberg News), and freedom-of-information lawyer Matt Topic, join Vanessa and Natalie to unpack how they dig government secrets out of the dark, from the $2 million sale of “pharma bro” Martin Shkreli’s one-of-a-kind Wu-Tang album to Epstein’s personal emails. Listen to Matt and Jason’s podcast Disclosure. You can also learn more about Matt’s legal work or read Jason’s weekly newsletter.
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