CFB’s Big Changes + Big Ten QB Rankings & SEC Schedule Reaction

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
That tried everyone. You hear the celebratory paper pop, I'm back.
It was that time of decade. I took vacation for
the first time since COVID, which was like a year long.
Well they counted them as non vacation days, but we
were out of the office.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
But since then it was on record. I checked with HR.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I hadn't taken a vacation day since twenty twenty. So
I took a whole week off that some call it
a honeymoon, I believe, and half the SEC and Big
ten was down in Saint Lucia, so I really didn't
get too far away from you guys.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
More about that on the back end of the show.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
But we're jampacked High Top, just a sparkling downtown Nashville, Tennessee,
on this Thursday, June twelfth, the year worl Lord twenty
twenty five. Now, some may say that I missed a lot.
I wouldn't go as far as to say that, because
by missing, you're implying that I was kind of with
out and I was not. But there were big news

(01:03):
items that happened in college football while I was gone.
I'm gonna kind of talk about them, but from the
standpoint like you and I would talk about them if
we were out to lunch today, not necessarily with all
due respect the way someone would write about it if
you're covering the sport. I got Big ten quarterback rankings.
I didn't learn my lesson from the SEC.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Let's see, there's a little smudge on the laptop there.
I didn't it's still there.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I didn't learn my lesson when I did it with
the SEC. So someone asked me to do it with
the Big Ten, so I said, hey, why not. So
we're going to drop that on the show tonight. FanDuel
has done us the great service of releasing those make
and miss odds, which is, it's just as it sounds
Peyte State to make the playoff or to miss the playoff,
so you can bet on whether teams will miss the
playoff or not. And got out. We got all that

(01:48):
in the show tonight. We've got Actually someone asked about
Bill Belichick and has nothing to do with his personal life.
Imagine the audacity of talking about Bill Belichick within the
con finds of football.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
We're gonna try it. I don't know if it's gonna work,
but we're gonna try it. On the show tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
We've got several odds and ends to weave into the show.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
We're jam packed.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
You hear how thick that stack of papers is. We've
been gone way too long. I don't know how you
guys do it. I'm told some of you take vacations
multiple times a year. I don't know how you do it.
But we're here, we're back, and we are together for
the foreseeable future. You know, unless you want to tune out,
in which case you're free to do that constitutionally, but
I don't recommend it. They're watching us in clear Lake, Texas, Buffalo,

(02:30):
New York, Coleman, Alabama, Phoenix, Arizona. I do have to
tell you the staff is getting Father's Day off. As
the son of a father himself, I've made the executive decision.
The staff is getting Father's Day off. So we'll be
back next week. I got just a metric ton of
stuff happening behind the scenes with the show that we'll
announce in due time.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
No bad, all good, but a ton of stuff happening.
So the schedule has been a little wonky, but that's okay.
We'll get it. We'll get it back on track pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay, so I'm not even gonna pop paper or pop
knuckles or anything like that while I was gone. Yes,
it's true, there were some big news items that happened
in college football, in college athletics, even some would say.
And frankly, I had grown tired of talking about this,
so it really didn't hurt my feelings too much that

(03:17):
this happened while I was gone. Rob hit me, he said,
what was it like seeing one of the biggest college
football stories of all time being broken while you were
out of the country on your honeymoon? And I'm not
quite sure what Rob's talking about there, because, to the
rest of my knowledge, I covered this as the news broke,
did I not Bradley and Jesse. I covered this as

(03:38):
best I could. I cut in straight from Saint Lucian.
Look right here, I covered it. What do you think
I was doing here?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Rob?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
If you're listening on podcasts, I'm covering my heart out
of this story. That was about the extent of my
thoughts on it, Rob, I couldn't have cared less. I
know it's a big story. I understand has huge implications
for future of college football. But you got to understand
when your draw to this game is the on field
nature of the game, and you don't really truly enjoy

(04:08):
watching the sport be played in a courtroom, as it
has been very.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Very much so over the past. I don't know, several years.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I didn't mind being out of touch, out of pocket,
if you will, But I did have some thoughts, and
I'm not gonna necessarily break them down like Dellinger Wood
or like Marcelo would. I mean, those guys have done
phenomenal jobs covering this stuff. I'm saying, I'm glad, candidly speaking,
I don't have to cover it. Ross Dellinger was in
a courtroom or some hearing again today, for he's been

(04:37):
in courtrooms and like hearings more than pro wrestlers used
to be in the ring in the eighties. They talk
about working three hundred plus days a year. I mean,
that's your life right now. If you're covering college football
from a strictly journalistic standpoint.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Gross terrible. So they're getting paid for it.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
I'm not expecting you to feel sorry for these people,
but man, like, eventually, aren't we supposed touch some grass
or at least some synthetic turf, hopefully grass. I'll tell
you what I didn't understand. I was well, obviously my
phone the I Josh was lit up when I had
cell phones Wi Fi service down there, but I did

(05:16):
not understand rob To answer your question, a lot of
the reaction I have noticed, as has been pointed out
on this show, that a lot of the people who
are paying attention to college football hardcore this time of
year are people who love the sport like we do.
And the people who love the sport the most usually
are the first to find flaws in the sport. And
I've kind of made that analogous to a city council meeting,

(05:38):
where it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Matter how great the city is.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
If you turn on a city council meeting and your
only perception of that town is what you see in
the city council meeting, you'll think that town is terrible
because no one goes to the city council meeting to
talk about how great the city is.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
They go there to complain.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Well, Likewise, no one hops on the internet in May
or June to talk about college football and how great
it is. They're only talking about this and that, and
they're nitpicking, and.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
That's okay, man, Like I do it I do it.
I'm guilty of it.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
But if you've been listening to that for the last
past weeks and months, it's been kind of exhausting. So
I did notice that when this news broke, and all
the news was, I guess we're not burying the lead
because it's a week old story now, But I mean
the news was that the House Settlement got passed by
Judge Claudia Wilkin out.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
In the Ninth Circuit Court.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
And now you've got revenue sharing and allegedly you've got
some rules, some guidelines, you know, the mythical guard rails
that we've been looking for for so long. Hey, at
least the language is written into this. We'll see how
enforceable it is. But I'll tell you my biggest sort

(06:53):
of singular takeaway, if there was one, was I didn't
understand some of the reactions. I didn't understand the reactions
of people who looked at it and said, oh, the
House Settlement's been passed. The revenue sharing era is here.
There goes college athletics and college football as we know it.
How how And I asked several of my buddies this,

(07:15):
because I mean, look, most of my buddies kind of
love the sport for the same reasons I love the sport.
We don't always agree on everything. But I was listening
to some of them talk, and I really think they
were just complaining to hear themselves complain, because best I
can tell, we just had a situation for several years
where everyone complained about what lack of rules, lack of structure,

(07:39):
lack of guardrails. It's the wild West, transfer portals, out
of control, nil really masquerading as just outright pay for plays,
out of control. These are widely shared complaints, are they not.
And so that's been happening for a long time. And
so I'm looking at the language in the House Settlement,
and I didn't understand a lot of the reaction. For

(08:00):
the life of me, I couldn't understand people who love
college football, the classical version of it, and have been
complaining about all that's wrong with it. And they looked
and they said, oh, there.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Goes college football.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
What with the House settlement, there goes college football. You
got a cap on spending. Now you introduced more structure,
you introduced rules, you introduced at least incentive to greatly
reduce roster churn. Therefore, the portal from this point moving
forward should be fractionally as out of control and busy

(08:31):
as it has been. They re elevated in the interim
the concept of evaluation and relationship building as being the
cornerstones of the recruiting process. And you listen to that
and said, Josh, that's not true. Everyone's being paid. What
do you think revenue sharing is. No, I didn't say
they weren't being paid. And if I really wanted to
go bad faith argument mode on you, I could do

(08:54):
what most people do and say, oh, they were always
being paid. But I'm not going to do that. I'm
not going to do that in the interest of ethics
around here. But my point is it's not about whether
kids are going to be paid or not. And I
think it's a pretty broadly held consensus that most of
us believe they should be paid or compensated at least somewhat.
I think most people's rub was, well, right now, if

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you've got one billionaire in your back pocket, then they
can just run circles around everyone and there's no rules
and this and that, and you're getting poached from one
roster to go to another roster, and it's just wild
West Free Agency all the time, twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week. Well, now you've got rules. Whether
they're enforceable or not, I'll get to in a second,

(09:38):
but you've got rules. You've actually got a set of
standards that everyone has to addhere to, and you've got
a revenue sharing structure that everyone has to adhere to.
And when I look at that, I was down at
LSU last year. I was actually I was outside of
Brian Kelly's office talking to someone else.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
But Yaile's been there forever.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
So I'm in YLE's office talking to her, and Brian
Kelly walks by I was talking to and he said, man,
I really hope, I really hope that we get that
new structure in place, because I love a world where
evaluation matters and relationship development matters and recruiting. And what
he meant by that is not I want to get

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to a world where kids don't get paid. What he's
talking about, and what literally every other coach that you
meet with is talking about, sands a few is we
want to get to a world where the kids.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Are getting paid.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
But everyone's kind of singing out of the same hymnal
so it's not.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Bidding war season. It's recruiting season.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
And Clemson's going to offer me to twenty five a year.
In Texas is going to offer me to thirty eight
a year, and Old Miss may go all the way
up to two fifty. But there's not this wide gulf
and offers to where if I wanted to go to Bama,
but Southern Cow comes in and offers three times the
amount I'm going to go to Southern cal hashtag business decision.

(10:56):
That's not the way recruiting's really going to feel as
much anymore. If these rules are enforceable, So then if
everyone's sort of able to offer roughly the same amount,
then what matters again? What matters again is your ability
to evaluate your ability to develop once they get on campus,
but your ability to develop relationships.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Before they're on campus.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
And dare I say recruiting may retake on some of
the flavor that recruiting used to have. But the multi
what is that piece of paper? The multi billion dollar
question in all of this. I wrote it down here,
you know, just in case I would forget this sentence.
It's very complicated. Will they really be able to enforce it?

(11:39):
Told you it was complicated, easy to memorize, but that's it.
That's actually all that matters with any rule that's ever
been written in the history of mankind. Will they be
able to enforce this because you know, obviously with this
whole revenue sharing thing, nil doesn't go away. But the
way the rules have been written is any NIL deal
above six hundred dollars I think is the number goes

(12:02):
through this clearinghouse. And essentially, if Peyton State wants to
pay Jesse over six hundred dollars, I got to prove
that Jesse's real value for the service that he's going
to provide in exchange for that money matches what he
would get on the open market. Now, of course this
is a situation right for lawsuits. They are going to

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come The multi billion dollar question therein is, well, if
you've got a rogue program out there that looks at
these rules and says good luck and force in that,
and they just still go rogue and they offer well
above and beyond, either through straight up cash or end
around nil deals, how you going to enforce it?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Well, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
That's why I'm sort of leaning back in this chair
a little bit and taking a wait and see approach.
I hope they can. I've been very clear on my
wish with all of this, and that is I hope
we get to this place as soon as possible because
I am looking out and my personal my self interest
is college football. There's no one program I'm rooting for. There,

(13:09):
there is no one person I'm rooting for. I'm rooting
for college football. College football is at its best not
when there's full competitive balance calls.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
There never will be.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I mean, that's sunshine, rainbow unicorn land.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
There's not that.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
But if you have a st if you have an
entire landscape where you've got the revenue share and then
you got the nil sort of as a cherry on top,
but by and large you've got rules and they're able
to be enforced.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
That's a win for college football fans.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
And it places the emphasis back on recruiting and then
back on development and then ultimately back on the football
field instead of the courtroom. Imagine that that'd be refreshing.
But I think it's all about fear. You ask, well,
will they be able to enforce this? Well, it depends
on how terrified people are. I don't know how many

(13:58):
of you have been through South Georgia. Thomasville, for example,
there's a highway that runs through Thomasville, US nineteen. Anytime
I went to a Florida State game. If I were
going to go back to Columbus Georgia, I'd have to
come through Thomasville, notorious speed trap. And the reason why
when that sign says thirty miles an hour you don't

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dare drive over thirty is because you're scared that you'll
get pulled over, because they do it every.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Day down there. Now.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Conversely, there are other places in the state of Georgia
where you know that you can disregard the speed limit sign.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
They don't ever patrol this area.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
It's the same way with rules and enforcement in college football.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
So Bradley throw up that piece from.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
The Dellinger story. This is a very short paragraph, but
this is what it's about here. This is from Ross
Dellinger a few days ago. He said an enforcement staff
is expected to be hired to investigate and enforce rules
related to cap circumvention, mpering, et cetera, and are charged
with levying stiff penalties. Violators may be subject to multi

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game coaching suspensions reductions in a school's revenue share pool,
as well as reductions in a loud transfers and significant
school finds.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Keep that up, Bradley.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
So if you're able to do this, if everyone looks
around the room, and I can promise you this is
happening right now. Those league meetings, everyone says the right thing,
whether they're in DestinE or they're in Amelia Island, wherever
the'se in Los.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Angeles for the Big Ten.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
All these coaches get in the room, they agree with
each other. We want rules, we want proper governors, we
want structure. If everyone else will play by the rules,
we will too. They all say that, okay. So what
you do if you're Greg Sankey, you're Tony Petiti or
any of these conference commissioners. You get in the room
and you make sure everyone agrees. You all say you
want structure, right, yeah, yeah. You get all the heads nodding. Okay,

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And do you agree that if everyone else is playing
by the rules, you will to do Yeah, yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
You're gonna get consensus approval there.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
They're all going to agree to it on the surface,
and your athletic directors need to be read in on this.
Your head coaches need to be read in on it.
University presidents need to be read in on it. And
then the next question needs to be Okay, well, if
everyone's on board with this, then you won't mind us
adopting and then.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Enforcing really really rigid stiff.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Penalties for anyone who runs a foul of this right,
Get them all to agree to it.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Get them all to say yes verbally.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Just like if I'm sitting on an exit row in
a plane, they don't take.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
The head nod.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
I've got to say yes, yes, I agree. So everyone,
I don't care what school you're at, you need to
agree to it. And then if what Ross Dellinger wrote
here is actually enforceable, if you know that when you
run a foul of this stuff, you got a multi
game suspension coming, or your revenue sharing pool is going
to be reduced where you're not able to offer what

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your competitors are able to offer, or you're not able
to take as many transfers, or your school gets a
significant fine. That right there is the thirty mile an
hour speed limit sign with three cops on the side
of the road. That's the difference. If you're able to
enforce it, that's the difference. Now Part two of this is, well,

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how do you decide whether you're able to enforce it? Well,
therein lies not the problem, but the unfinished business in
all this, and it's something that I'm following really closely.
I don't talk about it a lot on the show
because it's kind of boring, but I'm following this very
closely because they're fighting to get a bill that grants
them limited anti trust exemption. And don't worry if if

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you're a sophomore at Troy University and you don't know
what that means. It just means writing rules that Congress
then gives you the authority to enforce, and otherwise you
wouldn't have that cause it would be illegal. So that's
what college football collectively is looking for right now. Now
You're gonna get a lot of players rights advocates that

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fight against that, and that's okay.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I as I.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Said before, and I'll say a million times more, I
care about what's in the best interest of the overall
product college football, and what's best for the overall product
college football is to have the players being compensated. Check fairly,
check sometimes above and beyond fairly. At this point, check
having rules Okay, question mark right now, and the ability

(18:24):
to enforce them also a question mark. And so they
got part one done, they got the House Settlement. If
they develop the ability through Congress to enforce this, that's
really when you've got groundbreaking, substantive change. Until then, you're
just gonna get a lot of battles in the courtroom.
I mean, here's how big a joke this is. Right now,

(18:46):
I'll just move on because I'm not gonna name names,
because I'm really not even educated enough on this stuff
to fight the battle if people challenging me on it candidly.
But I know of legal types who spoke out against
anyone who pushed back on the House Settlement. They're advocating
for the House Settlement. Don't get in the way of progress.

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The House Settlement is going to save college athletics. And
these same people had female athletes lined up ready to
challenge the Title nine portion of the House Settlement the
day it was settled, the day it was agreed upon.
And so you do have people whose lifeblood, whose income

(19:27):
depends on drama and depends on unrest in the world
of college athletics, and those people have a vested interest
in making sure that the Tornado keeps spending.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I don't really.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Care what they think about my opinion. I care about
what you think and what we think. I would say
to a super majority consensus is yeah, we want rules
and we want people to be able to enforce them.
Kids are going to make a ton of money either way.
You know, I'd strongly encourage you to listen to Christy Dash,
who covers this very well. She also teaches down at

(20:03):
Florida on this very subject. I was listening to her
the other day. She said, I teach about nil and
about the potential employment model in college athletics, and she said,
it's so funny when you explain what being an employee
would actually mean versus maybe collective bargaining, but not under

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the employment model. Said one hundred percent of players said,
I don't want to be an employee.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
They're right, it's so funny. That's the irony in all this.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
You got a bunch of quote unquote players rights advocates
that are pushing for the employment model, and once they're
educated on it, almost no players want the employment model
because they realize they have never had it, nor will
they ever have it. Better then they've got it right
now and now, I'm of the belief that you do

(20:56):
not have to have the employment model to collectively bargain
this stuff. I think they're very small people in the
room that can accomplish one without the other. I do
actually think that's the common ground that athletes, their representation
and conference commissioners will arrive at. So I do think
they'll eventually get that done. I just don't feel like
wasting any more time talking about it. Academy Sports and Outdoors,

(21:16):
no matter where your players came from, no matter how
your roster was constructed, that Tennessee uniform is still just
as orange on Saturdays in the fall, And if you
want to pick one up, Academy Sports and Outdoors is
where you want to do it. And you may be
listening to me saying Josh, I don't care about football.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
If you don't.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Welcome to the show, I cannot believe you made it
this far in. But you know, maybe you're an A's
fan and they're getting blown out tonight and you just
kind of found the show. Well, maybe you like camping.
They got tents at Academy. Maybe you like fishing. They
got rods and reels Academy. I got all kind of
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chew at Academy. They are the presenting partner of this show.
My pen just fell apart. I assume I can get

(21:57):
another one of those at Academy, even though this one
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by the way, But Academy Sports and Outdoors and Academy
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good word every single day. All right, let's move on.

(22:21):
This is going to be a terrible segment, but I've
got to do it. I've got to do. What else
are we going to do in June? The other day,
I guess it's been like half a month ago at
this point. I went on these very airwaves and I
shared with you how I thought the quarterback picture in
the SEC would look this year.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
And I ranked them.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
And that's why I don't normally do those sorts of things,
because the comment section was an utter disaster, mostly from
people who didn't understand what I was doing, which was
expectations instead of ranking off returning production. So I was
like sixty percent of the haters and then the other
forty percent just kind of want to watch the world burn.

(23:01):
I don't even really think they were that upset, but
they sure typed.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Like they were so tonight.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Bradley, when you cut this video later, this is this
is a good endpoint for you. It's time to rank
the Big Ten quarterbacks coming into this year. Now what
I'm doing is I'm looking at it and I'm saying,
what do I expect?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
What do I personally expect?

Speaker 1 (23:19):
So, like Julian saying's at Ohio State, dude has not
started a game, I expect big things from him, So
I don't need stats.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
I don't need a stat line from when he was
a freshman because he didn't start last year. Just like
with Arch at Texas, I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Gonna rank him fourteenth because he hasn't really played a
whole lot. I think Arch Manning is gonna be really good.
Well likewise, in the Big Ten, I got a lot
of guys that I'm about to rank really highly that
haven't played meaningful football, but they will this year, and
I think they're gonna be good. So here here's what's
the most funny about this. According to my expectations in
ranking Big Ten quarterbacks. I'm gonna put Drew Aller number one.

(23:57):
I'm gonna get serious pushback on that. It's laughable, but
I'm gonna get serious pushback on that. Everyone wants Drew
Aler to be elite because he was a former five
star quarterback who has started multiple years, and I'm telling
you that he hasn't been elite yet. And I'm telling
you he may not even be elite this year. But
he's a really good player. He's a really good quarterback.

(24:17):
If he goes above and beyond and he's elite, more
power to him. And I'll take credit because I got
him ranked number one. But even if he's not, if
Drew Holler just plays a little bit better than he
did last year, he may very well be the best
quarterback in the Big Ten. And for those of you
who say that's ridiculous, Okay, you're entitled.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
To your opinion.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
I want you to point to me the sure fire
candidate out there that slam dunk case closed, no question,
you expect to be better than Drew Aller this year.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
And then I want you to define better.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Is it completion percentage, TD tot eratio, Like, what is
it that someone's going to definitively do better than him.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
So I've got Drew at number one.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Now here's where we get very very quickly into the
weeds of guesswork. This is what this is, That's what
expectations are. I am trying to be an educated guesser.
I got Julian say in number two in the Big Ten.
He came to Alabama and then transferred after about five
minutes when Saban retired, and he goes up there. He

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is one of many guys who transferred, didn't have to
start right away, and he got to sort of be
a fly on the wall in that quarterback room during
the national championship run. He got a really really good
taste of how different it is at Ohio State, and frankly,
if he stayed at Bama, it was going to be
the same way.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
So this is a dude who I.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Am very very high on. I was high on him
out of high school. Just made from the right stuff
from the neck up. Now, by the way, the release
is ultra quick too, so a lot of the intangibles,
some of the tangibles I think he has. There's just
no substitute for experience. But the thing about Ohio State
from an organizational standpoint is, I will blindly trust Ryan

(25:58):
Day and now Brian hartline offensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
There.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I will They've earned the right to be blindly trusted
to surround a quarterback with the right pieces. That wide
receiver rooms incredible, probably the best in college football.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
But also I trust them to develop.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I got a long, long history there now of developing
that position. And not only that, they're not trying to,
you know, pull every last ounce of potential out of
a guy who has three star max potential. Julian Sanin
was ranked five stars out of high school, and he
is every bit of that. From a potential standpoint. I
think he'll realize it this year, and my expectation is

(26:36):
he's right up there among the best in the conference.
Dante Moore at Oregon I also have up there. I
got him at number three. Dante Moore was at UCLA.
He started there, he transferred to Oregon and then he
sat out a year. Now, you don't see that much.
You see guys that don't start and then transfer and
city year. Maybe Dante more started at UCLA then transferred

(26:57):
than sat a year because he's he's behind a really,
really good player in Dylan Gabriel last year and now
he's playing.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
And I will tell you this.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
You've got whatever scouting report you could have on him
from UCLA.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I'll just tell you.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
The returns I've heard about him out of Oregon have
been pretty glowing. And you've got to find the right
kind of people to give you feedback on players. There's
some folks out there who would sunshine pump all day long.
Guy could be out there in a wheelchair and he's
moving around pretty good. Well, yeah, he's rolling though, so
he's probably not going to contribute a whole lot this fall.

(27:35):
So you got to know who to trust. The people
I know I can trust at Oregon. They trust what
they've got there. And I would also remind you there
was a five star quarterback who committed to them and
early enrolled and was there for playoff practice and Bowl prep.
I guess that's what you would call that period. He
saw enough in Dante Moore that he hit the exit door.

(27:56):
He said, I know I signed with you guys, I
want outing, and his staff said, all right, bye, I
trust Dante Moore and I trust again. Will Stein is
one of the very very bright, sort of younger relatively speaking,
lesser known names in the coordinator world amongst common fans.
He's very well known in the coaching world. I trust them.

(28:19):
They have earned my blind trust to get the most
out of that position, and I think they'll get the
most out of Dante Moore. I assume Jesse, and I'm
guessing here that I'll get a lot of pushback on
number four because number four for me is Demon Williams
at Washington. Like I'm very very high on him, extremely
high on him. I'm high on Washington as a team

(28:41):
and what they're capable of doing. From a scaling up standpoint.
This year, I always have to have the hand motion.
See if you listen to podcast, you miss the fact
that there are certain hand motions I do associated with
certain words like nine times per show and scaling.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
In this right here is one of them.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Demi Willi is going to be really good this year,
and almost no one around the country's talking about him
right now. I trust the position he's in, I trust
the coaching staff that he is playing for. I trust
him as a talent, and I think year two, if
you're looking for a surprise team out of the Big
two conferences, it could maybe be Missouri in the SEC.

(29:22):
But I think it's absolutely Washington in the Big Ten.
And if I'm right about that, it'll be because I'm
right about this. So I'm doing, you know, sort of
sort of a correlated belief system here. I believe in
Demon Williams and this is based on expectation from me
for this year. I got him all the way up
there in the top five. I got him at number
four in the Big Ten quarterback rankings, and because of that,

(29:43):
I think Washington is sort of a low key sleeper
team in the Big.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Ten title race.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Not my pick, per se, but they got a guy
up there who knows what he's doing in Jed Fish,
and I think he's got himself a quarterback that could
be one of the talks of college football around mid seas.
Number five is Luke Altmeyer, who returns along with almost
everybody at Illinois. Not a whole lot more to say
about him, twenty two to six TD to I n

(30:10):
T last year. He's there's a lot of consistency and
continuity in that staff and in that system. They're gonna
be a lot more high profile of a team this year.
They're gonna be on big stages, a lot more they
got Southern cal and Ohio State coming in there, and
that doesn't matter so much because it's not like he's

(30:30):
he is decided as a player based on his schedule.
The reason I'm telling you what the schedule is is
because it means a lot more people are gonna watch him.
They'll be in pressure situations a lot more. And frankly,
whether it's Altmeyer or whether it's that entire team, I
think one of the big stories to watch in the
Big Ten this year is how Illinois as a team

(30:51):
plays with expectation because always overlooked anytime there's a team
that does a lot. You can say the same thing
about Indiana. Anytime there's a team that comes out of nowhere,
does a lot and then returns a core chunk of
that roster, it's blindly assumed that if you had a
good team and returning production rate is high, just copy
and paste, like their starting point is where they left

(31:13):
off last year. Yeah, but they also had eight months
to listen to people tell them how good they were,
and they had eight months to go from collective chip
on the shoulder to pats on the shoulder. And sometimes
that doesn't affect guys. Hopefully it doesn't with Altmeyer and Illinois.
Sometimes it does, though, you come out of the gate
ice cold, and everyone's looking, said, but remember how these

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guys played last year?

Speaker 2 (31:35):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
This happens every year. The trick is trying to figure
out where it's gonna happen. So this is me kind
of betting that it doesn't happen with Illinois and Coach
Brett's got those guys ready to go. He's got himself
a really good quarterback there in Luke Altmeyer. Dylan Riyola
at Nebraska. I struggled, frankly, I struggled with five through
ten here because these things could slide any which given way.

(31:59):
Dylan Iola at Nebraska cut down on the turnovers.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
It's my request.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
If he's watching, if if Matt Rule is watching, and
there's a you know, there's a portion of the playbook
where you cut down on the turnovers at the quarterback position,
well then I'll be too low on Dylan Ryola.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
That's why he's down at six right now.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Skill sets there and Dana Holgerson calling plays for him there,
and now he'll have no shortage of opportunities. Thirteen to
eleven td' to I int rate last year. So again,
this is not based on returning production or your stat
line last year, although I take it into account. This
is based on what I expect from you this year,
So I got high expectations, so please don't embarrass me.

(32:41):
Jordan Mayava at USC, I put him at number seven.
I could see him at number four. I could see
him at number ten.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
What was that, Jesse? Oh? Jay? What at?

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I got a big problem with penmanship because I know
that kid's name and we just corrected, all right, So
my ave, that's the way do it. You just don't
even say the first name. I had a very very
tough time with five through Ten'd be very interesting to
see the feedback we get on this. But I put
Jade Mayava at number seven, and I can't help but

(33:14):
remember when I went to USC last month, the sort
of sort of like quiet confidence that you get in
the building when they're talking about him. So it's not
exactly quiet because they're talking about him, but just the
overall net increase that they feel they have in that
team that they think will help the quarterback position, which

(33:35):
ultimately helps you win games. But it's Lincoln Riley and
the quarterback position. You know, so that is yet another
area where I've got a guy that I feel comfortable
blindly trusting in developing that. And also, you know, not
to revisit the whole talking point of Caleb Williams when
he was there, but I think it says a lot

(33:56):
about how willing and able a guy is to play
with in the system, and I think Jade Miyava, at
least my hope is he is equipped and ready, willing
and able to play within the system, within the offense.
If you're an all world like first round first pick
type guy, you can get away with not doing that

(34:17):
probably doesn't put your team in best position to win, though,
and so he's plenty talent enough, is Jade Mayava. I
kind of hope he checks all those boxes as well.
Bryce Underwood at Michigan true freshman, probably gonna start there.
I have no clue where to put him. He could
be the best player in the league. He could struggle
most freshmen do. He's not most freshmen. So I know

(34:38):
what the Michigan pushback on this is going to be.
I got guys, I got a new clue where to
put him, So I.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Put him at number eight. But if anyone tells you
they know definitively what to expect from him. They're lying.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
That includes Sharon Moore. If we had him on the
show right now. I don't think Sharon Moore would tell you. Yeah,
I got a really really good idea of what he's
going to do this year. Uh, he probably knows as
a player his profile better than we you do, but
no one knows. So I got Underwood at eight. I
put Fernando Mendoza, the cal transferred that went to Indiana.
I put him at number nine. Look, he'll he'll be

(35:11):
a good player this year. I trust the system in
Indiana that he's in as well. But I just feel
like we're gonna get to early November. Maybe Indiana's not
undefeated or anything, but I think again, you'll look and
you'll say.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Man, Kurt Signetti pulled it off again.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
And there were play there were places that needed a
quarterback that sort of passed on Fernando Mendoza and went
with in my estimation, bigger risk. There may be bigger reward,
but bigger risk candidates. Fernando Mendoza's a solid player, and
so he's going to Indiana. I got him at number nine.
Nico Iyamaliava. What do you do with him? What do

(35:48):
you do with him? I put him at number ten.
I have no idea what to expect. I think UCLA
upgraded at the quarterback position, and as a result, I
think Tennessee down great at the quarterback position. What kind
of situation is he being put in? What kind of
talent is he surrounded with? How well does he acclimate
out there? That's not an easy thing that he's gone through.

(36:10):
So you know, what was he going to be at
Tennessee this year? Before any of that change enters the equation?

Speaker 2 (36:17):
What was he going to be at Tennessee? Like, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
So five through ten in the Big ten was really
hard for me to figure out. And you could really
just say the entire picture in the top ten is
hard to figure out.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
So I welcome your feedback. I can't just can't.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Wait to get it. It's always so constructive. That's why
when we rank quarterbacks in the league in June, that's
why I love it because it's so constructive.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Let's move along.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
There was legitimate football based news that dropped while I
was out of the country.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
I will payper pop to this.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
The SEC schedule and the start times got released, and
let's look, ESP owns the rights to this conference now,
so you're gonna have a ton of primetime games. And
you know, if you love night games, it's a good
time to be an SEC fan. But there were a
couple of games that, even though I love noonkickoffs, I
was hoping would get the special primetime treatment.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
And they didn't necessarily.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
But just a couple of takeaways here, Florida is going
to be front and center. So if you didn't, if
you didn't know anything about Florida, you will by season's end,
I promise you.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
They are going to LSU, that's.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Going to be a night game. They're going to Miami
ACC I think has rights to that. That won't be
a noon game, So that'll be either three thirty or
at night. Texas comes into the Swamp. I would be
willing to bet that's a night game, three thirty at
the latest Eastern time. Of course, they are at A
and M. That's either afternoon or night game. They got

(37:51):
Georgia at three thirty. They do every year. They go
to Ole Miss that could be a night game. Tennessee
at home, that could be a night game. Florida stayed
at home that's either an afternoon or a night game.
It doesn't look like Florida's gonna play a single noon game.
So if you want Florida in high leverage positions from

(38:12):
a scheduling standpoint, you got it. Now, don't go four
and eight, all right, some of us have you top
ten in their preseason rankings. So this is the time
for Florida to shine. They call him blue Chip Billy,
Birmingham Billy because if Billy Napier wanted his team in
the spotlight, he might as well have broken into the

(38:34):
league office and made the schedule himself. You will not
be able to escape Florida this year. Georgia season ticket
holders have gotten this shaft in some seasons recently, not
this season. You understand this year, if you have Georgia
season tickets, you're getting Alabama in Athens at night. You're
gonna get Texas in Athens probably at night. You're gonna

(38:57):
get Ole Miss in Athens life afternoon or night. And
also now that's for the season ticket holders out there,
but also just speaking about Georgia's ability to navigate this schedule,
they only play one road night game in conference playing
that's at Auburn this year. Auburn could be terrible or
they could be great, and no one knows what Auburn's

(39:18):
gonna be. But outside of that, look at those road games.
They go to Tennessee. It's not gonna be a night game.
They go to Jacksonville to face Florida that it's an
afternoon game too.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
They go to Mississippi State. If you've got.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
To go on the road in the SEC, Startville, Nashville, Lexington.
I mean, just respectfully, these are the places that you're
you're wanting to draw from a road scheduling perspective. We've
got a conundrum on September twenty seventh, and this doesn't
just apply to the SEC, but it applies to a
game that I had circled. So September twenty seventh, at

(39:52):
least from the chair I sit in right now, is
setting up to be one of the biggest Saturdays of
the year. Just to give you an idea of what's
happening that day, we got Oregon at penn State. Somehow,
some way, God has smiled on State College Pennsylvania and
they're gonna get the white out with Oregon in town.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Don't ask questions, just be happy you got it. That
game's on.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
NBC at the same time Alabama will be playing Georgia.
So those two are two of the five biggest games
in the country this year. They'll be happening at the
same time. And that's important to note because then you
look at the mid afternoon games and you got LSU
at Ole miss and you got Auburn at Texas A
and M. And here's why that's a problem. It may

(40:38):
not be a good year for Arkansas. It probably won't be.
And I've been wrong before, but I don't think I
am on this. But you know what, Arkansas is not
an easy place to play. And Notre Dame goes to
Arkansas this year, and I was looking at it and
I said, I hope they get Notre Dame at night.
Number one, because I want to see Notre Dame challenged.
And number two, I want Arkansas folks to get their

(40:58):
money's worth. Eleven am kickoff. I just threw up all
over the place. And I love noon kickoffs, but there
are certain games that I circle and I say, you,
my friend, you are exempt from my wishes for every
game to be kicked off at noon.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
This was one of them.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
I wanted to see Notre Dame go into Fayetteville at
night and bigger matchups. Robbed me of that. Do you
look at what LSU could have to go through. LSU
expected to be a contender in the SEC, be a
contender for the national championship. Well, there will not be
any doubt come late November whether they are valid in

(41:41):
that race or not. They go to Clemson, they go
to Ole Miss, they go to Alabama, they go to Oklahoma,
and all those games could be night games. In fact,
I'm confident three of the four will be night games.
The only one in question is that game at ole
Miss because there's so many other big games at night.
That'll probably be a mid afternoon kickoff. But LSU, man,

(42:03):
they got it to do. They got Florida at home, obviously,
but and they got Texas A and M at home too,
But South Carolina at home. It's just the schedules in
the SEC are wild. I don't really care what anyone
says about that. These schedules are like a sledgehammer to
the gut every week.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
And some of these some of these.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Programs have done enough core work they can just they
can just tense those abs up and they can take it.
Most of them can't. And when you got to go
on the road this many times mid afternoon.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Or later, it's tough.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
H And also anytime around these parts we're talking about
SEC schedules. What are we looking for. We're we're looking
for the Cottober Surprise. That's what we're looking for. Okay,
in politics, this is not a political show, but those
of you who follow politics, you know, in any election cycle,

(42:54):
you haven't really figured things out until you get the
dreaded October surprise. College football, we got the October surprise.
And the October surprise is nobody wants to play South
Carolina in October, and you especially don't want to be
going into Williams Brice in October, and you double especially
don't want to have to go in there at night.

(43:15):
And there are two candidates for the Coctober Surprise this year.
And somehow, some way, Oklahoma October eighteenth is locked in
as an early kickoff. But Alabama's not Alabama coming off
the third Saturday in October. Mind you, the Tennessee game
the following week, they got to go to Columbia South

(43:37):
Carolina and they're either going to play that game at
three point thirty or they're gonna play that game in primetime,
and either way, October could be very unkind to Caitlin
de Boorr in Alabama, and I'm warning you it is
June twelfth. I'm warning you right now you may still
not have enough time to get yourself ready to avoid

(43:58):
being victimized by the Coctober surprise.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Have we trademarked that yet?

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Jesse I Thine filed for so many trademarks around here,
and we haven't filed for the Coctober trademark.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Do you imagine if we got to jump on Justin
King and those guys over there.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Just speaking to friends of the program, I have something
that I need to address. We got a little little
deeper in the show. Here are forty five minutes into
the show. Look, we're friendly, we're friendly, got a lot
of friends in the business, and you know, we don't
collaborate a whole lot. Maybe that's something that changes in
the not too distant future. But I talk to other

(44:35):
people who do other shows all the time, and a
couple of the guys that I talked to a fair
amount are Taylor Lawan and Will Compton over at Busting
with the Boys. A ton of success for them this
year Big deals. Sign Happy for those guys, but also
the crew over there. Okay, so golf clap for Will
and Taylor over at Busting, but also the guys who

(44:58):
work in production over there.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
I have taken it upon themselves to start their own
show back.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Of the bus, and you know, I'll probably do some
stuff with Will and Taylor.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
But the guys on the back of the bus hit
me up today.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
And they were like, well, why don't you come on
our show instead of their show?

Speaker 2 (45:16):
And I thought, well, that's a.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Noble request until I went and looked at the profile.
These fools are out here asking me to come on
the show.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
They don't even follow me. Even the bus an account
follows me.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
So I hit them back and I said, one thing
you need to know about me, I value loyalty. Now
that's what I showed them publicly. What I didn't show
them publicly is the conversation I had with one of
their bosses, and they can figure out which one it is.
Throughout the day, as we decided how this should be handled,
because this is not the corporate world, there were consequences

(45:50):
when you run a foul of the process, and when
you don't understand what being.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
For the boys is all about.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
You know, a lot of success over there may have
gone to some heads, and so it's time to yank
that helium balloon back down to earth. So what I'm
saying is I don't possess the ability to call the
shots over there, but I know people who do, and
punishment and ideas for punishment are being sought.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
So here's what I want. I want a good old fashioned.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
SPHO, a static push off hold off, and or I
want a static push.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Up hold off.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
And what that means is I want everybody associated with
that brand over there back of the bus flat back
locked arms, push up position, and I want staff competing
against staff, whoever wins that, whoever can hold that position
the longest. You're exempt from what I'm about to say.
But the rest of you, I want you to sit

(46:46):
right there tribunal style, and I want your two bosses,
William and Taylor, to select one of you so that
when I not if but when I make my way
over there, and any time when I make my way
over there for a visit, you are my personal assistant,
no questions asked within the letter.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Of the law.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
In Davidson County in the state of Tennessee. You got
to do what I ask. Okay, that's what I want.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Now.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
If you don't want any part of this, that's cool.
But if you say you're for the boys, don't you
have to addhere to what being for the boys is
all about. That's my understanding of how they run things
over there. Maybe that's not how they run things over there.
You know, maybe maybe they're really not about that life.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
But I heard they are. So we'll see. My balls
are in your court. I await your response. Let's move along.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
We had a question from a friend of the program,
Lawrence in Greensboro, North Carolina, said, do you think Bill
Belichick will actually ever win at North Carolina? Okay, I
avoid these kinds of questions like the plague, but that's
kind of hypocritical because I'm answering this on the show.
But here's what I mean. Lawrence said, do you think
he's gonna win? Well, Lawrence got to define what you

(48:00):
mean by that. You mean he's he ever gonna win
a game? Well, certainly he will. Will he win a
few games, of course he will. That's not what people
are asking Lawrence. If I am to interpret what you're
saying there. What I think you're saying.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Is is Bill Belichick gonna win?

Speaker 1 (48:14):
More like, is he gonna win on the level it
takes to make the playoff, compete with Clemson, you know,
compete to win the ACC championship.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Well, no, I don't think he is.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
I don't think he is at all, And I don't
think he should be expected to. Now, you could shoot
back at me and you could say, hey, Bill, you
could shoot back at me and you could say, well,
he's being paid what ten million dollars a year?

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yes, he should be expected to win. I don't care
how much they pay him.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
I'm going based off what North Carolina as a program
has been capable of. You know, this place last won
ten or more games in twenty fifteen, and before that
it was nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
So you don't do this typically at North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Oh, Josh, I'm speaking for some of you. What you
don't know is they're about to run the thirty third
NFL franchise there. That's what they're saying. That's kind of
the you know, the messaging. That's the concept, we're going
to be the thirty third NFL team. They can't say
that publicly for legal reasons, but that's the messaging, that's
the general concept.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Okay, well, no you're not. No they're not. That sounds good,
No they're not.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
I don't think this is going to be a great,
big success for all the people talking about how much
Bill Belichick's about to teach college football. I'm of the
opinion college football may be about to teach Bill Belichick
a lot more than he's gonna teach college football. Because
you may think, well, dude, if you were if you
mastered the pro game for all those years, if you
and I believe this, if you are good enough where

(49:45):
you could be a position coach in any room in
the organization, then certainly college football shouldn't be a great,
big challenge for you.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Well, from a.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Strict coaching the game perspective, it won't be, guys, really good.
That is not the name of the game in college football.
The name of the game is getting players in college football,
and I don't think they're going to do that enough
to be able to.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Compete and win. And here's the other part of that.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Belichick's the oldest head coach in college football right now.
He's seventy three years old. Put another way, he's older
than any three of his com Let me do the math. Yeah,
he's older than any three of his players combined, unless
they got some super super super seniors on that team.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Now, that's not the end all be all.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
I mean Saban was in his seventies and went to
the semi finals in the playoff before he retired.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
He was also a lifer in college football.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
You're jumping into college football right now for the first
time as a head coach in your early seventies.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
You know next to nothing about the inner workings of
the sport.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
The sport of football, you got that one pretty well
figured out. But the business side, the machinations, if you will,
of college football.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
This like a hurricane you're jumping into.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
And look, if you grew up on the Gulf Coast,
it doesn't matter you know a thing or two about hurricanes.
Bill Belichick's like from Juneo, Alaska, jumping into a hurricane
for the first time. They don't even know how to
spell hurricane where he's from.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Well, likewise, with college football.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
The way this sport works is not easy to figure
out if you've never done it before, especially if you're
in your seventies. And you spend a lifetime in a
structured world. That's what the NFL is. This is not
the NFL. And it's one of the great lies that's
being told right now about Belichick that they keep saying, oh, man,

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it's a perfect time for Bill Belichick to jump into
college football because college football is just like the NFL.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Now, no, it's not. No, it's not at all.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
And you can spot the frauds that talk about this
stuff by how many people keep saying, now, oh, college
football is just like the NFL. Really, really is it.
You gotta have players to win at any level of
this sport, but in this level of football, you got
to go compete for him. You don't get to wait
and draft them and then they have to come play
for you for a minimum of four years. You got

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to go beat Clemson for them. You gotta go beat
Georgia because remember we're not asking if he'll make a
bowl there, we're asking if he'll compete for the playoff spots. Well,
to compete for a playoff spot, you got to be
better than the other teams that are competing for playoff spots,
which means you've got to beat them in recruiting, for
the same pool of players you're going after.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
You're gonna be able to do that.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Other folks in North Carolina hadn't been able to do it,
You're gonna be able to do it. So even if
the answer is yes there, all right, well, then you
got to get on campus and you gotta develop them.
And I've watched Bill Belichick for a long time, just
like anybody else at the NFL level enjoy the ability
to be able to take already developed players from the
college ranks and plug them into the NFL.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I don't mean they don't know how to develop. Don't
misunderstand me.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Bill Belichick has forgotten more about developing football players than
I'll ever know in ten lifetimes, and I'd be foolish
to suggest otherwise. What I'm saying is there's a big
difference in the finishing touch development kind of work you
have to do at the pro level versus the raw
chunks of clay that you get dropped in your lap

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at the college level. And remember, they're free to leave
every year, So not only do you have to get them,
you got to maintain them.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Then you got to go win with them.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
North Carolina historically hasn't done that to the degree that
people are expecting him to do. And look, my belief
is North Carolina should have pursued the face of Tarheel
football for the next five to ten years.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Bill Belichick is not that.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
So I looked at it like if I were a
North Carolina fan, I wouldn't have liked how it went
because I would have wanted to go all in for
like John Summroll, because I infinitely believe in him more
and his ability to run a program than I would
Bill Belichick. Belichick's one of the mount Rushmore faces in
the history of this sport. But for the place he's
at right now and the task that's at right now,

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I don't know that he and that organization are the
most quipped to be able to do That could be wrong.
We'll see next up. I do have an update.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I have an update in hand about something that we
do in house. Here.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
We do our own strength to schedule ratings in house,
and with a lot of the transfer portal closing and
the rosters being solidified.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
We've updated it.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
And I just wanted to let you know in each
of these conferences who we think has the hardest and
easiest schedule in the ACC. Syracuse has the hardest schedule
in this conference, and it is not particularly close. I
mean we got them graded at a one oh two
point five difficulty rating, just to give you an idea
of how big the gap is. The next closest team
is Clemson, and they're in the mid eighties. So Syracuse,

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I don't know who Fran Brown aggravated last year. Listen
to these teams they play. They played Tennessee, SMU, Georgia Tech, Miami,
Notre Dame, Clemson.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
None of them at home. Just a brutal schedule.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
They got back to pack of road games against MYAMI
and Notre Dame in November. So I got syrah use,
I mean we got him by a mile. Having the
toughest ACC schedule. The easiest North Carolina could be wake Forest.
They're right there, neck and neck, but we slightly, ever
so slightly have North Carolina with the easiest ACC schedule,
and that's even with them playing TCU and UCF out

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of conference. They avoid four of the top five teams
in the league in the preseason nods and they play
seven teams we have rated Tier five or lower.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
So Bill Belichick, we were just.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Talking about him as big a question mark as I
think there is on his potential there, it's the right
time to take the job in the SEC. This has
been back and forth. Who has the hardest schedule in
the SEC this year? Either Oklahoma or Florida. With the
updates with the rosters, ever so slightly, Florida has retaken

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the unenviable mantle of being the team with the toughest
schedule in the league this year at LSU at Miami,
Texas at A and m versus Georgia at Ole Miss
Tennessee Florida State. Lets give you an idea of how
insanely imbalanced scheduling is in the sport right now and

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why I believe you are what your record says you
are is the biggest lie you could ever tell.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
I was just talking about North Carolina. Okay, we're supposed to.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Pretend that all these teams are playing the same sport
right now, and from a scheduling standpoint, they just aren't.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
We looked at this.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
North Carolina's second toughest opponent would be Florida's ninth toughest opponent.
And yet we get to the end of the year
and if you're nine and three, you're nine and three.
You know, it's insane. The easiest schedule in the league
is Missouri. It would still be the toughest schedule in
the Big Twelve comparatively, just give you kind of an

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idea of where they would fall. But Missouri's got a
good draw right now.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
They get the three.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Bottom teams in the league in terms of preseason odds.
They've got Bama, A and m in South Carolina at home,
and their toughest road games are at Auburn and at Oklahoma.
Those are not easy places to play. But the thing
about it is those are two big wild card teams
like Auburn could be very much improved, oh you could
be very much improved, or they could be what they
were last year, and Missouri could be sneaking around in

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contention to go to Atlanta and no one expected it.
So another good year schedule wise for Missouri in the
Big Twelve. Toughest schedule in the Big Twelve this year
from a preseason standpoint is TCU. They got North Carolina
and SMU out of conference and then they play seven
of the top nine teams in preseason odds.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
In league play.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
So you look at the odds to win the Big
twelve TCUs in the top nine. They also play seven
of the other top nine, so that's not the easiest
path in the world. But speaking of easy paths, Houston Houston,
there's no high level out of conference game. All due
respect to Rice. They play the bottom four teams in

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the Big twelve preseason odds. There is no back to
back road spot on this schedule. Over under win totals
five and a half. Willie Fritz in a second year
could be some value there. And in the Big Ten,
oh prayers for Wisconsin man. Wisconsin's got the hardest schedule
in the Big Ten. Wisconsin by a mile has the

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hardest schedule in the Big Ten. It's the only Big
Ten team we have ranked in the top ten toughest
schedules in the country. Not only do they have this
murderer's road to end the season, they go to Alabama
and out of conference play, but look at the way
this ends. They start playing Michigan to start October, and
from that point on it's at Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State

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at Oregon, Washington at Indiana, Illinois at Minnesota. They may
not be favored in any of those games, they're over
under win totals five and a half. I would slightly
lean the under right now, just they may be improved
this year and not be able to hit that. With
the schedule they play. The easiest, surprisingly is Nebraska in

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the Big Ten. They do play Penn State, and they
do play Michigan, They do not play Ohio State, and
they do not play Oregon. They get Michigan at home,
they get USC at home, and they play four of
the five bottom teams in the preseason Big Ten odds.
So your three matt rule, if you're looking for another

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reason to believe there it is. If you're looking for
a reason to go drive in tonight, quick trip, quick trip,
normally the reason to stop, I suggest it's the reason
to go out and take a drive. Cole Brew on
tap also keep you up a little bit later then
you need to. I'll be proudly partaking in that later tonight.
I've got a long drive ahead of me, but a
quick trip fueling us as we go all over the country.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Surprisingly, don't have a location.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Down in Saint Lucia yet. I did some field research
last week, so we need to work on that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
We will.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
But in the meantime, you know, if you live in Brunswick, Georgia,
or if you live in where just outside Nashville. We
got one quick trip. Just look for that bright QT
red sign. More and more popping up all over the
landscape as we speak.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Bold Prediction Season is back.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Appreciate you guys watching live by the way, nice little
live crowd here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Make sure you subscribe to the channel. It's free after all.
Bold Prediction Season here. What do you believe? Not what
I believe? What do you believe?

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
What are you willing to state publicly? What are you
willing to put your name behind?

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
First up tonight is Braden from Austin, Texas. He says,
Texas wins the national title, but they don't win the
SEC title. Ohio State just did this, so it's not impossible.
We saw Ohio State not even play for the Big
Ten title and they won it all. You know, Texas
has the number one odds to win the SEC. They

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have the number one odds to win the whole thing,
and a lot of people are upset about that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
And if you are, I've got good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
News for you. You can bet on Texas to miss the playoff.
We'll talk about that later. I'm gonna say this is
a nine point twenty five on the boldness scale. Look
if Texas, I mean they could go to Atlanta, lose
to Georgia like they did last year, still make it
in and make a run Ohio State, like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I said, just did this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
This will probably coincide with arch Manning peaking late instead
of early. You know, it's tough to predict outright the
exact winner of the thing. So I'm gonna put a
nine point twenty five on it, but it wouldn't be
crazy to see I don't think next up, this is
a nine point five here. Ohio State got a lot
of new faces around there. Max from Henderson, Kentucky said,

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Ohio State's gonna have two Heisman finalists.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
That gets a nine point five from me. Most likely
we're looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
A quarterback wide receiver duo if this happens. So, Julian
Sayan has the sixth best odds at FanDuel right now.
Jeremiah Smith has the fourth best odds to win the Heisman.
Caleb Downs could be in there, Cardinal Tate could be
in there, but those are more dark horse names.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
These are guys that are in the top ten. You
got a new offensive coordinator there, Brian Hartline.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
He's been there forever, but he's elevated to that position
now new quarterback. Like I said in saying, does it
just click immediately? Because you can't afford to be flat
for half the season and have the numbers that are
necessary to have two Heisman finalists. So that's why I
said it's probably a quarterback wide receiver duo. I'm gonna
put a nine point five on that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
That's tough to call.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Next up, I wanted to put a four on this,
but the staff manually overrode me. Immunity Tyler from Wheaton,
Illinois said, Iowa State wins the Big Twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
It's well known that this is gonna happen this year.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
But for the few of you there who are not
aware that Iowa State is going to win the Big Twelve,
they are, and in the interest of mystery, I'm gonna
put an eight point seventy five on this. They played
in the game last year. Shockingly, I mean egregiously, They've
only got the eighth best odds to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Win the league this year, so shame on FanDuel.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I think Chase Sowell is a wide receiver transfer from ECU.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
He needs to be a star for them this year.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I think he will be, and otherwise they got a
workable schedule by Big twelve standards.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
I love the identity of the team. I just need
him to get back there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
If they get back there, I have confidence that thing
really got away from him last year and we will
not repeat December's mistakes of last year and last Lee.
This one's really bold. This is a nine point seventy five.
RB from Saint Louis said the winner of the Backyard
Brawl will end up winning their respective conference. Really, so

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that's Pitt West Virginia for the uninformed out there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Pitt.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
If they win the thing, they've got the ninth best
odds to win their conference. If West Virginia wins it,
they got the thirteenth best odds to win the Big Twelve. Look,
neither one of these teams is winning their conference. So
this is a nine point seventy five on the boldness scale.
I mean Pitt would be the one who's capable of it.
I guess, although anything can happen in the Big twelve.

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Eli Holstein some good DB's there, I guess if it
all came together for Pitt. But each team has a
win total of five and a half. I just don't
think they're winning their conference. Even if they made a
run to get to the game, they're not winning their conference.
So I'm gonna put a nine point seventy five on
that they're watching us in a Lottles Gattos California, San Antonio, Texas,

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Sumter South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Appreciate that so much. Let's move along.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Hey, look, I know we're going long, but we haven't
done a show in over a week, you know, so
I've also had there went another a record number of
whale breaches tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Be Jesus still acting up? Uh all right, so let's
get to these odds right quick.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
College football playoff odds are fun this time of year,
but with FanDuel releasing the updated market, we got to
talk about this because what FanDuel does every year now,
which is just fascinating, is they don't just put out
odds of.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Whether you're going to make the playoff or not. They
do that, but a lot of people look at odds.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
And they say that team's not gonna make the playoff. Well,
FanDuel listened, So not only do they put odds to
make the playoff, they put odds to miss the playoff.
So if you hate Texas right now and you think
arch Manning is the most overrated thing you know since
Vanilla dunk a Ruse, He's a dark time in my childhood,
then you can go back Texas to miss the playoff.

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You may lose some money, but you can do it.
So that's what I'm looking at right now, and it
paints a good picture of what the Big Ten is
right now. Like this right here is the best odds.
So they're showing you on the screen right now, the
best odds to make miss First up, when I looked
at this the Big Ten, there's so obviously a Tier

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one of three teams, and then there's like one team
in Tier two, and then there's a mess like jumbole
Tier three. So Ohio State, Oregon and Penn State they
are the three teams that have like minus odds to
make the playoffs. So they are big time favorites to
make the playoff. If you bet them to miss the playoff,

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you're getting better than one to one return on your money.
Then past that, you go a little ways and you've
got Michigan sort of on an island all by themselves
in terms of like Tier two and then in Tier
three like USC, Illinois, Indiana, Nebraska, Iowa, and I would
count Washington there as well, all have somewhat comparable odds.

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There are long shots to make the playoff. You'd have
to bet a ton of money to get any return
on them missing the playoff. But that's I mean, it's
a very very solidly developed tier system compared to the SEC,
where it's nothing like that. The depth in the SEC
is just wild. USC to give you an idea, comparatively,

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USC had the fifth best odds in the Big ten
at plus five ninety to make the playoff. Missouri is
plus five seventy to make the playoff. In the SEC,
that's good for twelve. So that doesn't guarantee anything. All
it does is tell you from a preseason perspective, the
odds market looks at the depth of the SEC and says, yeah,

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that's next level. And from a betting perspective or just
from like a prediction perspective, look at the top three. Texas, Georgia,
Alabama are the top three in the SEC betting market.
All of them have new quarterbacks, all of them are
bottom half returning production. So that's just like blind assumption
and it's an earned blind assumption. In many cases, those brands,

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those teams just aren't gonna be bad at quarterback, their
rosters aren't gonna be bad. And then conversely you got
LSU with returning production at quarterback and Garrett Nasmayer. They're
fourth and pretty solidly fourth. So I look at that
tier two in the SEC. I mean that things like
seven teams deep, and it's just it's like total wild

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card guessing because they all got to play each other,
well a lot of them play each other, and so
I mean there are teams there that are gonna be
sub five hundred, probably that in the preseason looked good
and come December the haters will tell you that's just
because they got artificially propped up, which could be a possibility.
It also could be a possibility that they all played

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each other and someone had to lose some games. That
could also be the case. In the ACC, there is
one team with minus odds, and that's Clemson. Clemson is
minus one thirty to make the playoff. Outside of that,
it's Miami, it's low, it's smu is Georgia Tech. But
there's a top five here and there's a big drop
off so Clemson, Miami, Louisville, SMU, Georgia Tech after that

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big drop off, and I'm glad that we got on
the Georgia Tech train a little bit ahead of time
because I got some money coming in on them. Now,
the Big Twelve, is this a two bid league or what?
I look at the Big Twelve this year, and I
think two of these teams can make the playoff. The

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best odds in the Big Twelve is Arizona State and
they're plus four seventy. That means if you bet one
hundred dollars on Arizona State to make the playoff and
they make it, it returns four hundred and seventy dollars.
So look, FANDU will notice what they're doing. But basically
what they're banking on is those are like conference championship odds.
They're banking on the Big Twelve being a one bid league,

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and I think they could be a two bid league.
So I think it makes sense to bet yes on
like the top three in the Big Twelve, the teams
that I have bought. Just in the interest of full disclosure,
I took Georgia Tech to make the playoff at plus
seven sixty. I took Washington to make it at plus
nine eighty. Please understand what I'm saying here. This is

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not me predicting Washington's gonna make the playoff. It's me
saying I think they have a better shot at making
the playoff than those odds would dictate.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
So there's value there. I got Tennessee missing the playoff
at minus two ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I think there's a little value there. I'm a little
bit lower on Tennessee than the odds. Guys are Baylor
to make the playoff at plus five ninety. I bought
some of that. I bought Missouri at plus five seventy
to make the playoff. I bought Georgia to miss at
plus one ninety eight. That's not me necessarily thinking Georgia
will miss the playoff. It's me thinking Georgia's got a

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really tough schedule, They're unproven at quarterback, and they play
a ton of tough teams. So they could be nine
to three and be like Bama last year and get
left out, and plus one ninety eight would return better
than one to one on that bed.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
So I thought there was collectively some value.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
There's my little portfolio of college football playoff make and
miss Leans right now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
You can bet all that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
FanDuel should have mentioned that a little bit more. FanDuel
the exclusive odds provider of the show. All of that
is available right now. Like everything I just talked about.
You can go bet it right now. If you're not
a betting man or woman, that's fine. You can go
look at it if you want to. But as we
get closer to the season, that's one of the fun
things about looking at FanDuel is whether you bet or not,

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Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
All right, last up before I leave you for the evening.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Of course, we get to late in the show and
we had a question about where I was last week.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Tyler hit us up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
He said, how was the honeymoon? You must have found
a gorgeous part of Georgia. I haven't seen yet, actually
left the state of Tennessee. Did not go vacation in
the state of Georgia. I'm not saying there's anything wrong
with honeymooning at Mountaintop End in Pine Mountain, Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Many in my social circle have done it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
I'm just saying that when I consulted with Savannah State,
she didn't necessarily want to honeymoon in Harris County or
Harrison County, where she's from in Mississippi. Little drop of
irony there. So we went to Saint Lucia. This is
the first time I ever left the country. I don't
know if I publicized that this is the first time
I've ever left the country, A plus trip would definitely recommend. Now,

(01:13:58):
I will tell you this, this is it's a little
bit of a flex but I don't mean it like that.
I need to tell you something for context. We get
recognized all the time when we're on the road. Now,
doesn't matter if we're in Seattle or Miami, New York
or LA. We get recognized all the time. But I
thought to myself, Yeah, but college football's big, and we
got a really big college football show, so it makes

(01:14:19):
sense that we get recognized. But if I'm going to
Saint Lucia, like Soufrairi or sou Frey or however I'm
supposed to pronounce that town which is next to the resort,
I stayed at. No way people that are going to
recognize me. But what I underestimated is like half of
the college football public was also going to be vacationing
in Saint Lucia while I was there. Do we got

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recognized more there than I do in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
It was wild.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
So folks recognized my bride, not only me, they recognized her.
So that was a fun time. Unexpected, but that was
a fun time. But it was really it was really
great trip, really great trip. I don't know if you
have ever seen the movie White Squall. It's nineteen ninety
six movie. It's about a ship called the Albatross that

(01:15:07):
sank in the nineteen sixties.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Jeff Bridges stars in the movie. Good movie, sad, but
good movie. Anyway. The reason I mentioned it is because
I was watching it on the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Flight home, because I was in the Caribbean for the
first time and it reminded me of the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
So I was watching it on the way home.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
And it's lucky that I had just taken a sunset
cruise down there off the coast of Saint Lucia where
you see the pitons which are commonly mislabeled as volcanoes,
they're actually lava domes associated with a volcano. It's like
three thousand feet high of just rock.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
So the point is, I'm watching White Squall, and some
of the b roll, like some of the scenic shots
that are in that movie as they're sailing through the
Caribbean on the way to the Colopagos Islands.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Were right there off the coast where we were.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
So that was a fun little side note. But we
stayed at the Sugar Beach Resort down there, and so
these people are wonderful, just wonderful. Food's great, scenery is great,
weather was great. Everything was great. And got back and
you know, I look, I thought to myself, I don't

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like unknown. I don't like doing stuff for the first time.
Vacationing for the first time somewhere is fine. Going through
customs and immigration for the first time, I wasn't looking
forward to. I got to say, I'll call tsa to
task when I need to. But two things, in the
interest of giving the federal government an occasional pad on
the back TSA in Nashville is always great, but these

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people take it personally. And at Heartsfield it's probably because
I was coming through at eight o'clock at night. But
Heartsfield in Atlanta, especially from the customs and immigration perspective,
is a machine. So I went from dboarding a plane,
through customs, through immigration, through riche my bags, through regoing

(01:17:01):
through security to my next gate in like twenty eight
minutes or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
So hats off.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
And speaking of Atlanta Airport, one of the most embarrassing
quotes to ever come out of my mouth, but it did,
is we were on a boat down in Saint Lucia
choppy waters, and the following sentence came out of my
mouth to one of the crew members on the boat.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
They were asking, do you have your sea legs? Is
anyone getting sick?

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
And I said, dude, I've stood on the plane train
before at Hartsfield, so I'm fine. And it is the
most ridiculous, Like it's the most ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Sentence that could ever come out of anyone's mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
They didn't judge me. I don't know if they know
what the plane train is. Anyone who's been to Atlanta
Airport knows what the plane train is. But if you
can find your footing on the plane train, you will
never suffer from seasickness. You will never struggle to get
your legs. Like they say, if you make it in
New York, you can make it anywhere. If you can
stand on the plane train without assistance, you can stand anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
You would not struggle anywhere. So it was a great trip.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
We got thousands and thousands and thousands of congratulations. We
got boxes taller than I am at the Apartment of
Wedding Gifts. Haven't even started to open them yet, so
thank you. Cards will be coming, but we appreciate it.
I appreciate all you guys. All right, we'll be back
next week. Not Sunday, but we'll be back next week.
Make sure you're following the socials. Hey, look, I'm gonna
potentially get involved in some pretty ratchet activity tomorrow. I

(01:18:33):
would highly suggest you'd be following on Instagram at Josh
Pate CFB. I can't say anything more than that for
legal purpi, which is the plural of purpose, but you
should be following over there anyway. There's a lot of
stuff goes on there that you don't see on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
For director Bradley, For producer Jesse, I'm Josh Pate. Take care,
have a great start to your weekend.

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