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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Let me tell you where I am right now. I
am like forty floors above the Las Vegas Strip. We're
in the Mandalai Bay. I'm overlooking all of Las Vegas
right now. I normally be getting ready for bed, but
it's still daylight out here because we're on the West coast.
We've been dark for a little while. I know I
haven't delivered live shows. You haven't had full length pods
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for a little while. Aside from a conversation with Canal,
a conversation with Cubrik, what's going on with that. I'm
gonna tell you everything. Well, I'm gonna tell you as
much as I can tell you right now. I'll tell
you everything soon. But I've just sat here and I've
listened to so many people I like say such dumb
things over the past two weeks that I said, screw it.
I got to record something the old school, what we
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would call the late kick extra mailbag pod that we
used to do. It's not called late kick anymore. It's
time to bust one of those out. So I don't
know how long we're gonna go here. Could be twenty minutes,
could be an hour. But I got some stuff to
get to I threw out the tweet a little while ago,
asked you guys what you wanted to talk about. Got
a number of things. Again, most of you were asking,
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what's the deal? When's the show coming back? I haven't
shared public details on that, but since our hardcores are
listening to this, I'll give you some details in a
little while. But first, oh, hands are over the face.
I gotta start hitting some of this. I mean, Kurt Signetti,
really sharp dude like him a lot, said some dumb
stuff about strength of schedule. The other day. Rhet lash Lee,
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one of the best dudes I know, said something pretty
dumb about the ACC schedule. The SEC, for their part,
passed out what equated to a propaganda packet like a
month ago. And there's just stupidity and lack of willingness
to be fully transparent all over the place. Now look,
if you say, well, I'm the head coach of Indiana,
I'm the head coach of SMU. I'm the commissioner of
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the SEC. It's my job to look out for those brands.
Yeah it is, Yeah, it is all right. Well, hey,
I run a fictitious university. It's called Pate State. We
don't really exist otherwise. I'm over here just trying to
look out for the best interests of college football. So
in the best interest of college football, here's my first observation.
Can you please stop pretending like everyone's stupid, Stop pretending
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like everyone's an idiot. Okay, everyone knows Indiana had a
cakewalk last year, and good you handled your business. You
deserve to be in the playoff rhet Lashley, Dude, everybody
knows that the SEC's infinitely deeper than the ACC. Like
everybody knows that. Everybody knows that you know it. You
coached down there. You know that in the SEC. Like
maybe you guys are making sound points, but the optics
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of the way you try and make the points you're
trying disseminate the point is very jonestownish. It's not great.
And then the entire flip side of the coin is
the Big Ten. And I'm at Big Ten media days
right now, and I got to tell you I am
one of the few who actually agrees with a lot
of what Tony Petiti says. That's the commissioner of the
Big Ten. I'll talk about it a little bit later.
I've talked to you guys about it before I don't
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think he has the worst ideas in the world, nor
do I think he has the worst logic in the
world about the format for the playoff, the AQ format.
But regardless of whether you agree with that or not, Dude,
they suck at messaging too. They're bad at it too.
I was talking to a lot of people about how
difficult it's been to get access to the league office
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or to get Tony Petiti on record, get him on
a show. I think we requested I sit down with him,
and we never heard back from the league office. Now
I'm gonna request one time to do something with you,
and if I don't hear back, that's cool. I'll just
move on. We do the same thing with coaches. We'll
do the same thing with commissioners. It's not an interview
based show anyway. But have talked to some people who
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are more in that lane and they're like, hey, I
mean everyone complains that we carry water for other conferences. Well, okay,
but yeah, when we request access with the big ten,
we kind of get the stiff arm to the face
and like everybody just looks at the entire college football
public like they're five year olds. I'll tell you what
it feels like it feels like you're in the store.
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You're in the grocery store or the gas station, and
there's a mom over there and you just hear a
drop an F bomb with her infant child in her hands. Now,
she's talking that way around that baby because she's mad, probably,
but also because she knows this is a toddler. This
toddler doesn't even know what the F word means. So
I could talk this way around this toddler for a
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little while longer and no consequences. That is kind of
how a lot of people have spoken from various podiums
or PODII the plural podium over the past week, just
assuming everyone's stupid enough to believe it. Nows flash man,
a lot of us actually got our ge. Maybe we
even graduated high school. Some of us maybe even graduated college.
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But we can walk in chew gum at the same time,
so we know what our eyes are telling us. We
know a lot of this is bs. There's no need
for it. There's no need for it. Someone just shoots straight.
I'll tell you another thing they're debating right now. It's
kind of been public. But I don't know that a
lot of people have paid attention to it. The transfer
portal window. The SEC wants it to be before spring.
The SEC wants it to be in the winter, like
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in February, and so you can figure out, Okay, who's going,
who's coming, who's going to be on my team, and
we want to lock that in and we want to
know that before spring ball so that we can dedicate
spring practice reps to guys that we know are going
to be on our team. The Big Ten wants to
go a different way. The Big Ten wants to align
it more with the academic calendar and more with when
the revenue sharing clock restarts in July. Now, what they've
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been saying publicly is, well, we want to align it
with the academic calendar because it's about more than just football.
That's bs it's the weather. You want it after spring
ball because you'd much prefer visitors be on your camps
when it's above fifty five degrees and it's not in February.
You don't care about the academic calendar. The academic calendar
is really good cover, because it would sound really really
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piss poor to say we don't want kids visiting here,
we don't want to be competing against Florida for a
transfer portal. Kid, when it's eighty degrees down there and
it's eight degrees here, And you know what, if you'd
say it like that, I'd have a lot more respect.
If you just say it like that, I'd have a
lot more respect. The SEC had coaches, The SEC head
coaches went down to Deston a couple of months ago
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and heading into Deston, what did we hear? We heard
the SEC and the Big ten were largely aligned with
this playoff structure and they wanted the AQ formats. And
whether that was true or not, it's one hundred percent
truth that the SEC powers that be came out of
the spring meeting saying, Nope, nope, we want the five
plus eleven. We want the five plus eleven because it's
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better for the sport. It's not better for the sport,
it's better for you. It's better for you because you're
about to cook the playoff selection criteria even further in
your face. And you know that if you've got eleven
at large spots, then you're gonna dominate the selection process
that goes into determining who's in those at large spots.
And that's what SEC coaches looked at and they said, wait,
we got a lot better shot of making playoffs if
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there's sixteen spots and eleven of them are at large,
plus our conference champ makes it in. You're looking out
for the best interest of the SEC, not college football.
But yet no one's really said that. It's well, we
think that's in the best college football. We got to
solve it on the field, you know, we got to
play the games on the field. Well, hey, the Big
TENHS proposal would play it on the field as well.
Just everyone would have to earn their way in, not
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based off what a playoff committee thinks, but actual results
on the field. Say so, as you can see or hear,
I've got issues with everyone right now. I am nobody's friend.
I have got issues with a portion of what every
single person in the great wide world of college football
seems to be saying right now, except for me, quite frankly,
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so good for me, I'm the only one that I'm
not disagreeing with. Okay, enough of that, enough of that.
What's happening with the show. There have been some whispers,
hateful whispers, really really dirty rumors out there that there's
been a little sabbatical here because I am taking an
off season. People, people, people, I took a honeymoon a
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couple of months ago. That's as close to an off
season as I am planning on taking. This has not
been an off season. For those of you who are
new around here. You're listening to me whisper. And it's
not because I'm a psychopath. It's not because I have
a body in my trunk. I didn't even rent a car.
I'm in Las Vegas and I'm ubering around as you do. No,
I'm whispering that way because we believe the O word
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is a dirty word around here. We do not even
utter it. We have to whisper it. If we're gonna
say off season, I'm not taking any kind of vacation. Okay,
here's what's happening. This is summer. A lot of people
in our business schedule their contracts to expire in summer.
So that's the nat life cycle of talent contracts in
sports media for obvious reasons, because you work in terms
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of football seasons. Mine's up with CBS at the end
of this month, so in about another week or so.
There have been a lot of conversations with a lot
of different people. We have scaled this show tremendously. By we,
I mean you guys and me. Secondarily, we've scaled this
show to the point where it is a monster. A
lot of people want to be in business with us.
A lot of it doesn't make sense for us, but candidly,
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some of it really does make sense for us, and
so we've got limitless opportunities. We really get to cherry pick.
So what's happening is that, and what's happening in the
interim is all right, maybe there are some contracts that
expire here, maybe there's some contracts that can't start until then.
Here's the goal. The goal is, as it's always been,
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keep this show three nights a week, Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday,
live on the same YouTube channel and the same podcast
feed we've always had. Check we will accomplish that. Make
sure it is of charge to everyone. Check we will
accomplish that. I can pretty confidently tell you there are
some partnerships and some collaborative efforts that are going to
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be underway between us and some other folks out there
in the space in the very very near future that
I think are going to make a lot of you happy.
And that will be an add on that will be
above and beyond what we offer. That's part of what's
being negotiated right now. There's also a lot that goes
into selling a show like ours properly. There's a lot
that goes into creating a merchandising monster that actually sells
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really really sharp, well designed stuff that we want to
wear and you guys want to wear and you guys
want to purchase. There is a ton that goes into
activations and live events on the road and all the
stuff we've wanted to do, but I didn't get ahead
of myself on because I thought we needed to build
the show first and foremost, and those are like ornaments
on the tree down the road, but they're never the tree. Well,
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we're at a place where we can do that now,
and so we've found, i think, the proper rocket boosters
to attach to the show. So you actually cannot even
imagine how hard we've been working behind the scenes over
the past really over the past six months, but especially
over the past couple of months. We've been maintaining as
much normalcy as we can. But I always knew there
was gonna be an interruption in July. It's short term guys,
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we're gonna We're gonna be cranking it back in August,
pretty early in August, as we always do, and I'll
give you full details then. But just rest assured. If
you were worried that we were going to take this
show to some linear network, no, that's not happening. Now.
There may be a relationship with one above and beyond
the show. That's wonderful if we can accomplish that, but
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that will not be the case. We're not putting the
thing behind a paywall. We're not changing the schedule. If anything,
we may add some stuff on top of what we
already do, but we got the most trafficked college football
show in the entire space. If you think I'm about
to do anything to screw that up, You're crazy. We
will do things to enhance it. A lot of it
will be stuff you can't see, but you'll feel it immunity,
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and I'm really looking forward to it. So that's what's
going on with the show right now. No off season,
never was, never will be. We go wall to wall
year round. It's just that a minor little hiccup in
schedule was necessary here in order to make sure that
we are full go for this upcoming season, and we
will be we got a tour. We'll be on the
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road every week like we are in the fall. We
will be regularly collaborating with some of the biggest names
in the space. And it's gonna be awesome. Man, twenty
twenty five gonna be another banner year for us here
at Peyton State. You know how I feel about you guys.
You know where I came from. You know none of
this is taken for granted, and you know we are
always going to stay true to what got us here
and the people that got us here, and a lot
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of them, as they have been in the past, will
be associated with It's not even a new venture. It's
sort of a new chapter of the same venture. So
we're looking forward to it. And I appreciate the patience.
Some of you haven't had a lot of it, but
that's okay because I appreciate the passion too. But when
we turn the key back on, it's full go. We
will not take a breath until mid January. You know
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how it is around here, So everyone get ready, get
your weddings out of the way, get your birthday parties
out of the way. I don't know what you do
in your personal life. Get it out of the way.
Class will be back in session very soon. Literally, as
I'm talking about this, our boy Van Lathan just hit
us up in response to the tweet I put out.
He said, who are some of the can't miss college
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football players in the last fifteen years in honor of
Honey Badger? And we need to talk about that. So,
Tyron Matthew just announced his retirement from the NFL. I
got to tell you, so, Van listed Lamar, Travis Hunter,
cam Manzell. I assume by can't miss he just means
can't miss college football players. I'm not sure he means
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like projecting to the NFL. Fournette Davante, Joe Burrow, Derrick Henry, Yeah,
all those check check check check check. But I got
to tell you Tyron Matthew is an awesome story. I
think he's a really awesome story. I don't think you
can overtell his story because candidly, I thought he had
maturity issues. I thought he had character issues coming out
of LSU. And I didn't know him. I did not
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know him personally. I wasn't covering LSU at the time.
I was just a fan watching like everyone else. But
I looked at him and I thought, ooh, man, character
red flags all over the place. He's gonna wash out
in the NFL. And I was wrong about him. And
I'm really happy to admit that. That's the kind of
wrong you like to be. If you doubt a kid
and he proves you wrong and he flourishes and impacts
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so many people in a positive way and he goes
on to have a great career, that's the kind of
wrong that you like to be. And I got to
tell you something, man, I was so wrong about Tyron Matthew.
So when we talk about can't miss players, like, yeah,
obviously watching him in college, he was obviously can't miss there.
But I know when he went to the league, there
were people and I was one of them that thought, well,
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he probably peaked in college and he probably will wash
out in the NFL. He didn't. I'm proud of him, man,
I'm proud to admit I was wrong on him, and
not just that. So not only was he an impact
player on the field. Even if he was going to
be an impact player on the field, I never fathomed
that Tyron Matthew would have the kind of impact off
the field on as many people as he did. And
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to me, like, those kinds of stories need to be told.
Those kinds of stories. You cannot overstate that stuff. And
you cannot overtell those kind of stories because it is very,
very quick. It's very human natureish to go throw the
negatives out there all the time. That's a tale as
old as time and it's very prevalent today. And so man,
just make sure you tell the flip side stories. Make
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sure you tell the other side of that coin. I'll
tell you another one. It's very polarizing. Man. I got
people in my family who will not discuss this with me.
But Mike Vick's another one. You watched Mike Vick Virginia Tech,
and I grew up in Georgia, so I'm watching him
as an Atlanta Falcon and just revolutionized a lot of
the game, but revolutionized the Atlanta Falcons. That was also
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that era where they went from the old school Falcons logo,
you know, the Jamal Anderson Chris Chandler logo, to the
Mike Vick logo, the work Done Mike Vick logo, the
Algae Crumpler logo, that's what we call it down there.
And then you find out He's wrapped up in just
some of the most unspeakably evil, heinous stuff you could
ever imagine. And his career's over, and his life's over
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as it should have been, and he goes to prison
as he should have What did you think would become
of Mike Vick at that point? I mean, I thought
I'd never hear about him again. I thought he'd be
a documentary one day. But I never thought Mike vic
would make anything of himself. You've just thrown your life away.
And as far as I know Michael Vick, all I
know of him is Mike Vick football player. I don't
know him the person. And I'm a kid growing up
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in the South. I'm watching that like, you let me down,
you let everyone else down, you let Arthur Blank down,
you let ownership down, you let yourself down, your family down,
your friends down. But I only know you as a
football player. So once your football career is over, I
look at it in terms of your life, your life,
as far as I can tell, is over. And Mike
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Vick's been a model citizen ever since then. And Mike
Vick has done wonders for a lot of different people.
He's the head coach at Norfolk State. Now if you
haven't been keeping up, but he's gotten out completely rehabilitated
his image, but not in a false way, not in
a way where you just hire the best PR firms
in the world and they do what they do. That's
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not Mike Vick. I mean, most of us can see
through that at this point. Anyway, That's not what he did.
He owned up to it. He never turned away from
what he did, what he was guilty of. He's been
eternally apologetic for it. He's also been really, really, really
active in preventative measures and addressing animal abuse and all
the things that you would ask someone to do. I mean,
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unless you want toss him in the middle of the
ocean with a cinder block around his ankle, which some
people did. You know, I'm an animal lover. I love animals, man,
I've grown up with in my whole life. That's not
the approach I take. All right, when you're guilty of something,
pay your price, pay your debt to society, and then
rehab yourself. And Mike Vick's done that. My point is
I looked at Mike Vick and I thought there's no way,
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there's no way that he could ever do anything to
rehabilitate himself. In my eyes, well he did, so I
was wrong about him too. Those are two guys that
I was just really wrong about and happy to be
wrong about. Now. I know, on the Mike vickside of things,
there's some people who would never forgive him. That's okay,
that's your prerogative. I'm speaking personally because it's my show
and I'm speaking from the heart. So that's how I
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feel about him. Moving on to much, much, much lighter topics,
one of you asked me turf versus natural grass? Yeah,
I don't know anyone who says turf honestly, I mean,
who says turf? Who prefers turf over natural grass? There
was a time in my youth, in my really really
really childhood adolescent youth, where it was a novelty if
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you were on turf. As I said, I grew up
in Georgia. So in the Georgia, like the GHSA state
championship playoffs in high school, the big reward was the
semi finals for all the classifications were held in the
Georgia Dome. And let's just pause and remember the Georgia
Dome with a five second moment of silence. Everyone shut up,
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miss you babe. So you wanted to get to the
Georgia Dome. Well, the Georgia Dome had artificial turf at
the time. It was like the AstroTurf kind of artificial turf.
It wasn't the field turf. So I remember Troop County
where I did not go. Troop County was a county
north of me, but Harris County sucked in football, so
they never made it up there. Troop County made it
up there one year Bubba Sparks bought the entire team
cleats or turf shoes. I do remember that, and I
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remember I pulled a few strings and I got to
go down on the field because I wanted to feel
what turf felt like. I had never felt it before.
So yeah, man, once upon a time, maybe I was
fascinated with turf, but those times have come and gone.
Natural grass is the way to go. It's the only
way to go. Now. I understand if you're coaching in
Alaska or you're the head grounds keeper in Montana or
somewhere like that, I do understand weather plays a part
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also some of these stadiums. This is a really underrated
issue for trying to grow grass, even in the South,
even in some of the these big stadiums that are
in the South. What you don't take into account is
sun angle. And because these stadiums are full like bowls,
they're built all the way around, upper deck, all the
way around. You don't account for how little sunlight the
grass actually gets every day. And those groundskeepers will tell
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you once you get later in the year and you're
already getting less sunlight, that field really gets less sunlight
per day because the sun is not directly on the grass.
But I'm gonna tell you in Steven A. Smith form,
I want you to listen to me right now. We
don't care. We don't care grow the grass. I was
at the Texas A and M Texas game last year.
Well it was in College Station. So the Texas Texas
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A and M game. If you've ever been to Kyle Field,
that is a sanctuary of grass. It is carpet, but
a little bit better than carpet. I don't know how
they do it. It's like playing football on a putting green.
It is amazing. So Nick McKenna is the head groundskeeper there.
Golden Rake winner Award, by the way, that's like an Emmy.
That's an Oscar. I mean, that's like the crystal football
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of their world. I talked to that guy, excuse me.
I sat there in silence and listened to him break
this down for like forty minutes. I was leaving I
think Sarks press conference or Elcho's press conference, one of
the two, and I was walking back across the field
to go get my stuff and he was out there.
We had finished up a live shot. He came up
to me, introduced himself, said hey, are you guys done.
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He wasn't shoeing us off. He was asking how much
longer we needed for our live shot. And I said, yeah,
we're done now. Man, you can do whatever you need
to do. This is your house. And then I started
asking some questions, and man, you talk about answers and
not just the what, but the why. These people are surgical.
These people are surgical. And so because I know people
like Nick McKenna exist, I'm always gonna tell you sunlight
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don't care, cold weather don't care. They will find a way.
They will make it work. He's not the only one
who knows how to do it, even if he is
the best. As they like to say out there, we
walk on grass because he walks on water. It's it's
a very very apropos quote from some of the higher
up there in College station. But gimme grass all day,
every day. If you got a spray painted green, because
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there's some brown spots later in November, so be it.
What else is going on here? Oh oh oh, So
just a little while ago, James Franklin was at the podium.
I'm recording this on Wednesday night. James Franklin was at
the podium at Big ten Media Days and he just
took a flamethrower to Las Vegas. He just railed against
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having Big ten media Days in Las Vegas. And you
know what, He's right, And a lot of you have
made careers out of hating on James Franklin, so anything
he says is wrong. He says the sky is blue,
and you say, no, it's not. It's it's Awqua, it's Cyrillian. Okay, guys,
you know what you're doing right now, and I know
what you're doing, and you know that I know what
you're doing. James Franklin talked about how it makes no
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sense to have Big ten media Days in Las Vegas.
Now some of the contingent from the West coast has
chimed in. Casey Cosgrove just hitting me up, noted a
Los Angeles residence, Casey costicro It's important context here, he said.
I disagree, man. You got a national brand, now you
got a nationwide conference. You gotta spread out the love
a little bit. I hear you, and I rejected, respectfully.
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I rejected. Here is what I love. I love Indianapolis, Indiana,
and I love having events there. Notably, one time I
hated on Indy before I ever went, and they never
let me hear the end of it, because then I
went up there and I said, this is, low key
the best event town in the entire country. And I
never knew because I was not from Indiana. And Steve
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Wolfong used to tout it all the time, but that's
cause he's from Indianapolis, and so I thought they were
lying to me. They weren't. And I love Indy because
in the Big ten scheme of things, it's much more
centrally located. Now, usc folks, notwithstanding everyone else, I mean,
Oregon's gonna have to get on a plane and go
somewhere no matter what. But Chicago, Indy, those are drivable
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for a lot of the Big ten schools, but I
don't care about the schools because they're off flying private anyway.
I'm talking about the beat writers. I'm talking about media,
like what the event actually exists for. I just think
it's jumped the shark a lot. And then, on a
slightly related note, a lot of people have been complaining
about how these events have lost their juice. Got a
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little take on that. I was in Atlanta last week
for SEC Media Days, and I've got a suspicion and
hate I hate to call people out, so I'm not
going to do it by name, but I've got a
suspicion that a lot of people like covering football for
everything other than football. And I was listening to Peter Burns,
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the Great Peter Burns, earlier today on someone's show. It
may have been that SEC podcast. I think it was
those guys interviewing him. But he made a good point.
He said, you know, this year's SEC Media Days has
been as much about football as it's been in a
long time. Twenty twenty you didn't even have it. Twenty
twenty one it's about coming back from COVID, and twenty
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two you've got Ou and Texas coming in and twenty
three is conference realignment and playoff realignment kind of the
same way as last year twenty twenty five. Yeah, that
stuff's been going on, but it was a lot quieter.
And so what did you have? You had people forced
to talk about football, And I'm telling you it's a
blind spot for a lot of folks who cover the sport.
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They don't want to talk about football. I don't think
they know a lot of the names of the players.
I don't think a lot of people have really taken
deep dives for the past four months into rosters. And
it's not that they're obligated to. There's nothing that forces
you to. But I do think like some of us
get jacked up for football, and to me, like that
was great about SEC media days last week. You didn't
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get any sound bites per se because no one's dumb
enough to give you one, and you didn't get any
real controversy. McElroy had to provide that. But it was
about football. And if that's a problem, you know, if
that lacks juice, I don't know, maybe you just look
it through a different prism than I am. I thought
it was fine, but I don't go into these things
expecting fireworks. It's not a circus to me. It's about
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networking for a lot of people, honestly, But elsewhere it's
about seeing old friends. And look, I'm on CAMPI plural
of campus multiple times per week in the spring anyway,
so I've already seen all those folks. So I'm not
looking to get five minute interviews for guys I've done
an hour long sit down with I'll catch up with
him for a second, but I'm not going to those
events for those purposes or per pie. The plural forms
are really getting out of control, but I'm not gonna stop.
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So media days are what they are. I mean, if
you want to complain about them enough, there is a solution.
You don't have to go, did you guys hear drink wits?
By the way, last week at said media days, he
was talking about how he was kind of breaking from
the pack. I respect the heck out of him, man,
because everyone else is in lockstep, like everyone gets their
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marching orders. The SEC does it, the Big ten does it,
the Big twelve does it, and no one is to
step out of line. We'll drink what's got to the
podium and said, hey, man, it may get me in trouble,
it may be unpopular in my own league, but I'm
not for the five plus eleven stuff. I'm a lot
more in favor of the AQ format and whatnot, because
I at least want a structure where we know what
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it's going to take to get in and it's not
left in the hands of the committee. And then that
sparked this debate I've had with several people off camera
and off the record, but I guess I can do
it here. You know, it's a matter of principle to me,
a lot more than a matter of case study when
it comes to the committee. Because if you're telling me
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that you don't want a committee deciding who's in the playoff,
that is a completely fair take. I even tend to
agree with you, but I'm not necessarily agreeing with you,
because I think there is case after case after case
of the committee getting it wrong. I actually think the
Committe's gotten it largely right. There may have been one
or two instances where I had a mild disagreement. I've
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never been just completely beside myself. If you have been
completely beside yourself, you're probably talking about Florida state a
couple of years ago, which is a totally fair take.
But by and large, the committee, I think has gotten
it right. So if I take a stand that I
don't want to committee deciding things, it's not because they
screwed it up. It's a lot more a matter of principle.
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It's a lot more me, you know, sitting on the
dock sipping aziva in the middle of the summer and
there's no drama, and like there's no selection show this Sunday.
I'm just thinking out loud, talking to the lake, talking
to the fish, and saying, how should this work? Just
matter of principle? Okay, no specific year, but in general,
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how should it work. Should we have a bunch of
administrative types in a room pretending they're watching games, pretending
they're glued to it all week every week in the fall,
or should we have a structure where in week one
you know what you've got to do to make it
and in that AQ model, like Eli Drinkwitz, for example,
knows he has got to be one of the six
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best teams in his conference not to make the playoff.
Let's make sure we understand how that works. The number
six team in the SEC's not guaranteed a playoff spot
at all, nor is the number three team in the SEC.
Only one and two would be guaranteed playoff spots. But
what Number six does know is they're going to go
to Number three's building in the first Saturday in December
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to play for the right to go to the playoff.
And you know that at the beginning of the year.
So that is preferable to some people, and I happen
to agree with it. But what I loved more was,
however this goes, and whoever wins out, man, at least
Drinkwitz took a stand, and at least he broke from
the pack. And you better believe he's not the only one.
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Just other guys are too afraid to speak out. And
I don't know why, because, as far as I can tell,
it's Wednesday, July twenty third, at seven to ten pm
Pacific Standard time as I'm recording this right now, he
looks like he's still the coach at Missouri. I mean,
as far as I can tell, he's still alive. He's
still still heart beating, he's still good, still drawing a paycheck,
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He's all right. Look at that, he's okay, We're oh Okay,
College Football Unlimited just got it. This is unfair because
I'm looking at my Twitter account as I'm recording, and
everyone who's sending me stuff right now is getting bumped
to the front of the line. But he asked me,
what's the most confident bet you've placed? Huh, that's an
early Raminudal Express question. Perhaps Romanudele Express returning with a
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vengeance this year, by the way, as is Friday Night
Lines returning with a vengeance. I'm telling you, if you're
new around here, I will have to do one of
those explainer videos again to welcome the Nubes into the season,
because we add hundreds of thousands every spring. So I
will in time let you know what all these terms mean.
But for those of you who have been around for
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a while, sophomores and above at pat State, you know
what the Rominudel Express is. You know what Friday Night
Lines is. My most confident bet I've placed so far
is the Georgia Tech over Win Total. I'm so confident
in it. I'm so confident in it. When I was
down at SEC Media Days last week, when I left,
I went over there for a little while. Let me
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tell you something Brent Key is. He's a dude. He's awesome.
I didn't record anything with him. I just went and
hung out with those guys for a little while and
I pull in. So there's a lot of construction going
on at George Tech right now, so you know, a
lot of people are displaced. Brent Key's one of the
only people who can't park in the parking garage over
there because his truck's jacked up too high. Just everything
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about Georgia Tech, right down to the vehicle parked outside
the stadium, not even in a spot, just like pulls
it right up the stadium and walks in, and then
the team and the vibe and everything perfectly reflects Brent Key.
I've got so little doubt about them this year. I'm
not sitting here telling you they're going to go beat
Clemson or anything like that, but I think every ounce
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of potential will be squeezed out of that team, and
if I'm right about that, they'll go well above the
wind total that was posted when I got it. Now
I don't think the wind total that I got is
even available anymore, because I think that FanDuel and everyone
else has jacked it up a little bit. Which is understandable,
but I love them this year. I have them power
rated extremely high. When the JP pole comes out in
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a couple of weeks, and yes that's coming as well Immunity,
you will know how much I am the model believe
in Georgia tech. So I love that. Bet Jeff asked
if I have heard Kublick and his Wife's podcast. I
just listened to it earlier today. I've listened to every
episode and left a five star review. It's very addictive.
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I don't know what it is about it, it's very addictive.
I think it was mainly her idea Tuesday date night podcast.
I would encourage you guys to go listen. It is
a very very intoxicating listen. And you know, I don't
promote other shows unless I truly truly believe in them.
And I have not been paid anything so far to
promote this, which is kind of BS. Honestly, I should,
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but I haven't been, but I have listened to it. Now.
The follow up question that I'm looking at here is
am I ever going to do anything like that with
Savannah State. I think it could be in the cards.
Here's what I have noticed, all right, here's the theme
that I would work on with her. First off, she
worked for Saban at BAMA, she worked for Miles at LSU,
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she worked for Freeze at Old Miss. So she's got
story after story after story. Honestly, should probably do a
better football podcast than me. But she could also do
you guys a lot of good because I've got an
army of eighteen to twenty five year old males who
listen to this show. And every time we do a
mail bag just like this one, I'll wade through the
replies and the questions, and there are like twenty or
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thirty relationship questions, advice on how to propose this and that,
up and down, all kinds of different questions that frankly,
she's more qualified to answer. And so I've told her,
if we ever explore this concept, here's what I need
you to do. I need you to cross enemy lines
and I need you to help us. Okay, our people
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sometimes here at Peyton State, they need help. They need
a tutor, not for sociology, not for chemistry, for life,
for life, And I think I can get us some help,
and I think I can get you guys some help.
So if we ever, if we ever team up with
Savannah State. Okay, if we ever bring her into the
fold and we do a separate pod, I think that's
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gonna be it. I think it's just you unload your
issues in a mail bag. I don't know how we
even do that, and she just teas off and gives
you some tough love, gives you some sound sage advice.
She does it to me all the time. Sometimes I
listen to it. I think there's a little bit of
a market for that. Above and beyond just the stories.
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Oh my, the stories you want to talk about first
and second and third date stuff. The stories, guys, the stories.
Do you know what it's like being inside the recruiting
machine of Alabama, or being at Ole, miss during Freeze's
peak years, or being at LSU when less Miles was there.
The stories are golden. Now, Look, she may be shy.
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You know, maybe we don't know her as well as
we think we do. Maybe she's shy and a little
too timid, stage fright public speaking. Is she scared of it?
I don't know. I really don't. I don't know. Our
balls are in her court. You know, what more can
you say? Offer is on the table? We got a
tour question? Do you have a name for the tour
this fall yet, was the question. I think I have
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two finalists. I've sent those options to a number of
people close, like inside the inner inner circle. I think
we have a sixty forty maybe a sixty five to
thirty five favorite, just a leader in the clubhouse. Now,
as you all know, if I like the thirty five option,
I'm just gonna manually override the vote and go with
it anyway. But right now, fortunately the one I like
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is the one that's in the lead. I think we
got two winners here. Honestly, we may have just named
the next two seasons worth of tours, but I can't
announce it publicly yet, but I will. I will be
probably announcing that in the next couple of weeks. We
got a whole bunch of st up coming obviously in
the next couple of weeks. But yes, tour name. We
are efforting that as we speak. Someone wanted me to
talk about Dan Mullins joining the Mountain West. Well, Dan
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Mullen has joined the Mountain West. That is true. I
am looking at his football building right now outside my window,
and I'm going to go over there tomorrow before I
head back to Nashville. I actually texted him the other day.
I said, I'm in town. Is the door unlocked? And
he said yeah, And they got a week zero game,
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and so they're already practicing. So I'm gonna go over
there tomorrow. I'm going to see what it's like over there.
What's happening over there? Has he remodeled the office? Are
they going to win the Mountain West? Are they going
to be in the playoff this year? Are they going
to lose nine games? To be determined, We'll see. Speaking
of week zero, we need to address this. A lot
of you are asking for me to address how I'm
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not acknowledging week zero. This is not complicated, people. Ninety
five percent of the college football public feels the same
way about Week zero. As far as the overall totality
of the college football season goes. That's not the beginning
of it. That's the warm up. It is wonderful that
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we get to watch Kansas State and Iowa State. For me, obviously,
I'll be glued to it. I mean, that's a huge
important game for me. That's not when ninety five percent
of the country acknowledges college football season starting. College football
season starts on the week where a vast majority of
the country plays. Here's the problem, the five percent who
disagree with that. Every one of them speaks up on
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Saturday when I say there are six weeks until kickoff,
five weeks until kickoff, And if you're counting down to
week one instead of counting down to week zero, you're
not acknowledging week zero. You're saying those games don't matter.
How can you be someone who says he loves all
of college football if you're ignoring college football games. I'm
not ignoring college football games. This is so easy. It
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is not complicated. There's no need to overthink the rule here. Again,
this is a super majority consensus. It's just that the
minority is an extreme vocal minority, which again is okay.
But it's dumb to do a season countdown to week
zero for all of college football because all of college
football does not start in week zero. In fact, a
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vast majority of it does not start in week zero.
I hate week zero as a concept. I wish every
one of the games started in the same week. I
know why we do it kind of, but I don't
like it. So, I mean, week zero just kind of
messes things up. To me the concept of week zero.
That doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to the games.
You give me a game right now, I'm looking forward
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to it. If they play a game down in this
Mandalay Bay parking lot, I'm watching it. I'm not gonna
say the season just started for everyone, all right, got
that out of the way. The next one. We all
know the top four teams in the SEC. Now, if
you had to pick the next best, who is it?
I know it's a crowded field with a little difference.
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But if you had to, hey, I don't know the
top four teams in the SEC. Who knows the top
four teams in the SEC? I think what you're saying
is there was a pretty clear one through four in
the voting last week, or the odds market has some
combination of Georgia, Texas, Bama, LSU. That's not clear. If
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you think there is like a clear drop off after
those four, you're looking at some different picture than I am. Now.
I do agree that if you simulated this season one
hundred times, those teams would probably win the conference more
often than maybe South Carolina would, But it's not clear.
There is not clear distinction. There is not some wall
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between number four and number five. That Tier one it's
like a it's like Tier two, A, Tier two, B,
Tier two C. I don't even look at it as
Tier one Tier two right now. I almost look at
the SEC as Tier one is open. It's vacant, and
we'll see who plays their way into Tier one. Cause
I gotta be honest with you, I think the SEC
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is going to be a complete car wreck this year.
I think it's gonna be really messy, really jumbled. I
do think at least one of their three loss teams
is going to make the playoff. I think there may
be a couple of three loss teams in the playoff
this year. But that's only cause I don't think there's
a team to beat out there. I've said that many
many times. I also think in the SEC it bears
repeating at least once more. This may apply to other
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conferences as well, but I know it will apply to
the SEC. We have not recalibrated our thinking properly. We
have not, and so there are so many teams that
think they're about to contend in the SEC this year,
and not everyone can. Someone's got to take losses, and
normally that may be Kentucky or maybe Vandy or maybe
Mississippi State. But here's the problem. This year, there are
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some teams that are gonna have to take L's that
fancy themselves a contender, and someone who's got their eyes
on Atlanta right now is gonna finish six and six
and they're gonna want to freak out about it, and
that may be warranted. Or it may be that you
just had a six and six year where all of
your six losses were by a combined twenty three points
and it was just a dog fight and you came
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out on the wrong end a couple of times. Maybe
your quarterback got hurt, maybe turnovers didn't go your way,
bounce the ball didn't go your way. But it's gonna
be bad in the SEC. Think about how many teams
viewed last year as a tune up for this year.
LSU absolutely, Bama absolutely, Georgia thinks they can level back
up and they won the conference last year. Florida absolutely
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thinks that, Auburn absolutely thinks that Oklahoma and AMM both
absolutely think that I just rattled off half the conference
that legitimately thinks last year, Okay, that was good, but
watch what we do this year. Not everybody can do that.
Not everybody can do it, and so someone's got to
drop off, someone's got to take the LS. And I
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just think it's gonna be a car wreck. I mean,
I think the winner of that conference probably has two losses,
kind of like they did last year. I think it's
going to be a car wreck. Okay, this was good.
This was therapeutic for me. I got to order dinner now.
But I'm glad we did this, and I gotta be
real with you, I may do this a little more
frequently between now and when we crank the show back up.
I can't go this long being silent. I just can't
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do it. I can't do it. So let's tentatively plan
on doing this again in a few days. I don't
know when. There'll probably be no advanced warning. Just keep
your notifications on you'll see the pod drop. I appreciate it,
though appreciate you guys. Make sure you're following on the socials.
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