Rivalry Week Reaction Show + Lane Kiffin To LSU & More BIG Hires + CFP Chaos Ahead

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
I want to leave this show with no regrets tonight.
I guess one regret that I can't control is I
just wish Mema could have been around to see this day.
I hold in my hand a stack of paper so
heavy I have to use two hands to hold it up.
We're jam packed. It is Sunday. It is November thirtieth,
the year of our lower twenty twenty five high atap

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a pretty frigid downtown Nashville, Tennessee. I don't know that
there's anything on the planet like college football. I don't
know how long the show is going to go. Tonight,
FanDuel set the over under right at one hundred and
twenty point five minutes. Jesse tells me our longest show
ever was an hour forty eight. So look, I'm going
to talk as fast as I can. We have a
metric ton of things to discuss. You and I. It

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was rivalry week, so yes, oh Yo State curses broken.
We got to talk about that. Lank Kiffin's the new
head coach at LSU. John Summerl's the new head coach
at Florida. Alex Golish is the new head coach at Auburn.
Penn state has no earthly idea who their next head
coach is going to be, and Arkansas has landed Ryan Silverfield.
So that all just happened over the span of about
the past fifteen minutes. Also, Vandy beat Tennessee on the

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road and dropped in the AP poll. So yeah, we're
gonna discuss that the committee's rankings come out forty eight
hours from now. We've got all sorts of chaos scenarios.
The ACC doomsday scenario is back in play, and I'm
supposed to talk about it all in one show, and
you know what, we're gonna do it. They're watching us
in Bellbrook, Ohio, Tampa, Florida, Hagerstown, Maryland, Abilene, Texas. I

(01:43):
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(02:03):
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many of you are not. Okay, that's it. I would
bag harder, but immunity. I got to dive into the
show tonight. Here it is finally written on a piece

(02:25):
of paper, Bradley, right here in front of me. Lane
Kiffin is the new head coach at LSU. Let's not
beat around the bush. It's one of the biggest days
in the history of this program. This is a program
that anyone this side of Brian Kelly this millennium has
won a national championship as the head coach of Lane
Kiffin may very well be the next. This could have
gone really sideways. I think we all understand that. Okay,

(02:48):
if we just hit the rewind button about a month,
Brian Kelly's out and the governor's saying one thing, and
then we've got an athletic director and is he going
to be permanent? Is he going to be the interim?
And there's a whole lot of other competition out there.
Florida's job is open. Who knows what the NFL may offer,
and Lane Kiffin by a mile is the number one

(03:08):
candidate in the marketplace. Can LSU get its act together? Well,
you know what, LSU got its act together, so to
that I have to hat tip them. And they got
the job done and they landed their slammeddunk number one candidate.
So the Marty Smith hostage situation sort of masquerading as
the LSU coaching search, has come to an end. Glad

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to see our guy, Marty Smith there, our correspondent on
the battlefields in Oxford, Mississippi, finally get some much needed
R and R. And one day, you know, we're talking
about documentaries about Lane Kiffin. Maybe one day Marty Smith
does his own documentary about the past seventy two to
ninety six hours of his life that felt like four years.
It's really hard for me to be consistent emotionally. It

(03:52):
has been hard for me to be consistent emotionally throughout
this whole thing. I wrote down some words I have felt.
Maybe you can compile your own. Throughout the duration of
LSU pursuing Lang Kiffin, I felt entertained, I found myself
in disbelief. I felt a lot of intrigue, I felt

(04:13):
discussed I felt fatigue. Now we feel finality, there's excitement,
there's sadness. I felt all these things. So if you've
been out there and you've just been watching this and
you felt one emotion throughout this whole thing, are you
even alive? Are you a real person? I also am
keenly aware that college football is exploding in popularity. So

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every year, really every month, every week, every day of
every year, there's someone new to our sport, and many
someones happened to walk in the door of college football
in the past month or maybe just in the past year,
Like this fall has been your first real indoctrination into
college football, and you look around and say, you can't
be serious. This is what this is like. And my

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the answer is no. Most of the time, it's not
quite like this. But it is amazing, isn't it. Yeah,
you guys are waiting for land Man season two, and look,
I'm hooked on it too, But you have to wait
for these series to re up. And are we even
gonna get you for you a season whatever? I don't know.
There are rumors of feuding on the set, but I
know what I did get. I got Lane Kiffin to

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LSU and it was not without casualties figuratively speaking, because
I have talked with many, many, many of our friends
at ol Miss. I've seen the footage from the airport.
I watched some dude yell an f bomb towards Chris
Kiffin's kid, Cookie, which is unacceptable, by the way, and
that kid's like barely old enough to talk. So I
don't really know where he's at in this whole thing.

(05:41):
I guess he's heading to LSU with everybody else. I
know there's a lot of very very raw, bitter feelings
there at ole Miss. There's no universal truth here. I
don't know what else you want me to tell you.
Like everyone, when this has been going on, they've been
wanting you to pick sides. The old Miss folks have
wanted you to empathize with them, and the LSU folks
have wanted you to say, oh man, we got to

(06:03):
do whatever it takes to land our coach. He can
act anyway he wants to. That's just part of the fun.
It's like, obviously, if the roles were reversed, everyone in
Baton Rouge would be saying the things people in Oxford
are saying. And that doesn't absolve you because everyone in
Oxford would be saying what my friends down in Baton
Rouge are saying right now, and the innocent bystanders. You

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can just apply all of that to yourselves if you're
ever in the market for a coach or your coach
ever leaves you. Because one of the most overused adages
in sports is fan is short for fanatic. I don't
think I've ever said it on the show. It's so old.
The first time I heard it twenty years ago, I saw, man,
that's edgy, that is brilliant, and then everyone started saying it. However,

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it is true, So there's a lot of fanaticism here.
Any fan base in any of these spots would have
felt the same way. Everyone has their take on what
really happened. I know that, I know everyone has an opinion.
So not only is it enough or is it not?
Anough rather to know the truth and that is very
very soft, very very much written in shades of gray

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depending on who you are here. But everyone has their
opinion on whether this was all orchestrated. When did Lane
know he was going to go to LSU? Did he
just lead Old miss on this whole time? Was he
really conflicted? Was he just lying to your face, you
don't know, you think you know, you don't know. I'll

(07:30):
share in my perspective without betraying confidence. I talked to
Lane a fair amount during this whole ordeal. I never
once asked him where he was going. Never did that
because I kind of have fun finding out with the
rest of you, but talk to him several times. So
from my vantage point, I think he was pretty conflicted.
That's why I kept coming on the show, and we

(07:50):
would do periodic updates about Lane Kiffen and the LSU
coaching search and the Florida coaching search, and everyone wanted
these definitive statements, and everyone wanted a prediction. And as
late as last week, like Brett McMurphy hit us up
for a feature he was doing for on three dot
com about just the general prediction of people in the
college football media space. I didn't even text him back.

(08:13):
But then Brett, persistent as he is, hit me and said, Hey,
you haven't texted me back yet, So I said, I
guess LSU. I didn't know. My best guess was LSU.
The point is that wasn't just fence writing. It was
from talking to him a whole lot there were just
a lot of different perspectives. Okay, So I do think
that down the stretch a little bit ago, you know,

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maybe a couple of days ago, I think it became
fairly clear in his mind that he was leaving, and
I think that crystallized itself into if I'm leaving, it's
going to be lsu And then I think the fight
the final few days was not so much am I
leaving or not? And this is my personal perspective on this.
The fight the final few days was am I going
to be able to stick around here and coach? And

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there were a lot of different takes on that too,
And I thought yesterday on college game Day, there were
some opinions shared that sounded, you know, pretty universal on
that set, and that is all you got to let
him coach at Ole Miss. Now, I thought it was laughable.
I've always thought the notion of him being able to

(09:18):
stick around at Ole Miss and coach as long as
he wants to, even though he's taken a job with
a rival, was laughable. I told him this, had an
argument about it, and our opinions just differ on that.
But I looked at it from the vantage point of
Keith Carter. You know, the one thing that you can't
accuse Lane of being is really really dishonest. I know

(09:41):
that comes as a shock to a lot of people,
but he was pretty forthright in what he had been
doing the entire time, whether it be his family going
and checking out property down in Gainesville or Baton Rouge
the next day, and what he was considering and where
his mind was. He was pretty communicative with the administration
there as far as I know, the entire time. I
think he thought that built up a lot of good

(10:03):
will so that when it came time for him to
make a decision, if he hit the exit door, that
that good will and that equity could be cashed in
in the form of I get to stick around and
coach this team in the playoff as long as our
season goes. And I just never thought that was going
to happen. I expressed that, so it didn't happen. And
anyone who thought that was going to happen, I mean

(10:26):
really genuinely thought that was going to happen. I just
ask why, why did you ever think that was going
to happen. Put yourself not in the shoes of Lane
Kiffin or a fan. Put yourself in the shoes of
Keith Carter, the athletic director there, like why I could
never come up with an answer. I could come up
with a lot of answers as to why it wouldn't
happen if I were him, Why I wouldn't allow it

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to happen. I think, you know, there was another path
where Lane could have said, I'm just not giving you
a decision by your deadline, in which case I thought
they may suspend him with pay, because I didn't think
that there was ever going to be a situation where
he was just allowed to stick around there. So the
big questions, now that this is in our rearview mirror,

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is not where does old Miss go? They snapped their
fingers and said, Pete Golding, you're our new head coach.
Penn State's been wandering in the woods behind our studio
for the better part of two months trying to find
a coach. Ole Miss executed a coaching search in about
four hours today. It turns out the replacement was in
the building the whole time. So well, that's that on

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the front of old Miss, Like, congrats, guys, and good
luck to Pete Golding, and we'll have plenty of time
to talk about that. But as for Lane at LSU
staff staff, staff, staff, staff, it's all I ever care
about when coaches are hired, it's all I ever care about.
You could do the tom for Nelly, obligatory. I just
riped this from for Nelly. I assume he gets a
licensing fee every time I say it great hire. No

(11:52):
clue where the it'll work out. Now. I have a
strong suspicion it's going to work out, And I don't
know what his defensive staff is going to look like there.
We're live right now, so even as we speak to
each other, he's in the building down there meeting with,
among other people, American hero Blake Baker, better known to
the rest of you as the defensive coordinator at LSU.

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That guy's one of the best in the business. I
also think he may have head coaching offers because a
lot of really good G five level programs are opening up.
So who knows? How does this settle in time? Is
the other thing I wonder, And this is impossible to
answer right now. Certainly, if I asked anyone in Oxford, Mississippi,
he's public enemy number one. He'll never be welcome in
this city again. And I feel the same way if

(12:37):
I were you, It may always be that way. I
don't know. My suspicion is there's a lot of this
that Lane Kiffin regrets in terms of how it went down.
Make no mistake, Make no mistake. He enjoyed a lot
of this. You know him. You don't ever have to
have spoken to Lane Kiff in a single day in
your life or shared a room with him to note, Yeah,

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that guy, that guy kind of leaned into some of this.
Of course he did. Of course I would expect nothing
less from him. I think there are other parts where,
of course, you only get to go around the marry
go around once that he looks back on and says, yeah,
I really wish I would have handled this different that different.
There's there's no fakeness about what they were able to
accomplish there over the past six years, especially this past year.

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So you want to remember that fondly. You want to
be remembered. Finally, you can't walk around talking about valuing
the legacy you leave behind only to blow torch it
on the way out and not regret a little bit
of that. Now, whether you think that's all on you
or whether you think that's twenty percent on you, eighty
percent on them. Whatever. Okay, in time, the math gets
kind of fuzzy. On that, the details and people's memories

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of the details get kind of fuzzy. How do you
remember all Miss twenty years from now? How does Ole
Miss remember you twenty years from now? I don't know.
I do know that LSU plays in Oxford, Mississippi, next season.
That's what I do know. We could drive there, of course,
courtesy of Quick Trip. Happy that they have fueled the
fallon out Lie Tour every week this year and it's

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been a really, really fun ride. I was at a
Quick Trip as recently as three am this morning on
our way back from Auburn, Alabama, where we were at
the Iron Bowl last night, of course fueled by Quick Trip.
Appreciate you guys. And it's you know, it's not part
of the tour officially, because the tour is just the
regular season, but I can report that we will be
at the SEC Championship game Saturday, and that could be.

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That could be not the last announcement about that game
this week, mind you, So just stay tuned for that.
Got a huge crowd watching like sixteen or seventeen thousand
live viewers. Welcome everyone, Happy to have you. We got
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we got a long way to go. Let's go up.
Ohio State twenty seven Michigan nine. Curse is broken, people,
curse is broken. Two and a half chili on this game.

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The snow always adds the obligatory half chili. This game
got pretty boring, I'm told in the second half. Now.
The reason I say that sarcastically, it's called Ohio State.
Folks couldn't care less. Boring is beautiful to them. But
I've seen some of the correspondence from the haters today.
The haters think I missed on this game, Jesse. The
haters tuned out after Tuesday last week, And it is

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true that in the Tuesday prediction video I laid out
a full case for Ohio State to win the game,
only to pick Michigan because I've been wrong about this
game the past four years, and I'm really tired of
looking like a clown. Some people say my picks on
the game have nothing to do with me looking like
a clown. I was just born that way, and to that,
I say, shame on you, shame on you. But I

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would also say, what if you're wrong? What if you're
wrong about it? All you are? I woke up yesterday
morning and I realized I had done something terrible. I
had gone against my conscience, and my conscience was Ohio
State's going to win this game. So I hit up
front of the program Will Compton, and I said, what

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do I do about this? And I mean, you know
he's always there for good advice. You got to follow
your heart. What does your heart tell you? Well, my
heart tells me Ohio State by fitty today. But I'm
not going to pick a margin of victory, but I
do want to pick Ohio State. What do I do? Well, Hey, buddy,
it's only eleven fifty am. You still got time to
do whatever you want to. I flipped my pick and
I told him I need you to screenshot it, so

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he screenshatted, and then at the conclusion of the game yesterday,
which truthfully was a little bit after halftime, he released it.
And some people said, this doesn't count. I don't care
if you think it counts, because it's just picking a
college football game. There are no rules. We can do
whatever we want to. As it turns out, Ohio State
could do pretty much whatever they wanted to yesterday. This

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game was not all that complicated, after all the four
year build up, All they had to do was go
in there and take care of a couple of padlock stats.
The first it's a paper popper. It's very simple. As
we told you tuesday, the team that rushes for the
most yards in this game has been golden since two
thousand and one, without fail. The team that leads in

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the rushing category has won every game. Ohio State one
to eighty six Michigan one hundred ball game. The second
half was especially violent. One ten to negative eight. So yeah,
that'll get the job done. However, if that's not enough
for you, if you're listening and saying, oh, maybe Ohio
State broke one long run and then they turned it over,
it's not a padlocked stat That wouldn't tell me everything

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I need to know about the game. Ohio State had
more plays in a drive in the second half without
communication from the box. By the way, then Michigan had
the entire second half. They went on a twenty play
drive eleven minutes fifty six seconds. It was like it
was like watching Alexander lead an army, but instead of

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you know, in a mountain range somewhere over in the
Netherlands or Europe, it was well, it was in arbor
and it was Ryan Day. As it turns out, I
can see Ryan Day. Just go go kill some really
really big animal and throw it over him and then
put a staff in his hand, take his head set
off because apparently it's not working by that point. Anyway,

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it didn't matter. It was straight up pop Warner Julian saying,
run a play. We got four and a half, we
got five. Okay, run over here to the side line
right quick. We're going to call it in to you
and just go do the same thing again nineteen more times,
and we'll just never give them the ball back. So yeah,
it turns out that's also a pretty sound strategy. The

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competitive character of Ohio State's pretty incredible, So I've been
I've probably been a bigger admirer of that than any
one thing they've done this year. Julian Sayin's had a
good year. Maybe he'll win the Heisman. I don't know.
They've got incredible receiver talent. They've got really good talent everywhere.
But go back to the first quarter. Oh everyone looks
at the final twenty seven to nine. History will remember

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this as a blowout. It bordered on a splattering. Put
one more touchdown on the board. I was ready to
fire off the tweet. That's how history will remember it.
But I would like you, since we are, you know,
about thirty or so hours removed from this game, do
me a favor and go back in time. You don't
have to go back to the start of the game,
go back to midway through the first quarter. Michigan's you know,

(20:00):
kind of hit him in the mouth just a little bit,
Jesse said, Probably more like a slap Nevertheless, contact was
made to Ohio State's face with Michigan's hand figuratively to
start this game. And I was perusing Twitter. I was
in my hotel room, getting ready to head over to Auburn,
and I saw a few people say, uh, oh, this
feels familiar. Oh looks like it's happening again. Did you

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feel that way? Doesn't appear Ohio State did, But did
you feel that way? All right? This is where I
want to talk about competitive character for a second. I
think it's more important than anything in the box score,
and more important than any statistic. They played like the
most battle tested team in the country. You've seen those
teams that have been in a whole bunch of close games,
so they look totally comfortable when they trail early in

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a game later in the year. Ohio State hasn't been
that team. Ohio State has trailed virtually none the whole year.
Ohio State has held their first twelve opponents to under
seventeen points. That's the first time any team has done
that since Florida in nineteen seventy five. Paper popper of

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a stack. And yet you would have watched him yesterday
and thought, man, this team's playing like their back's been
against the wall since late September. And the other thing
they played with is a total collective amnesia, a total
disregard for recent history. Because not only did they get
hit a little bit and they trailed early, not only

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that Julian Sant throws a pick, which I'm told was
impossible for him to do. Not only is all that
happening and they have no problem with it. They've lost
the last four. There are serious allegations out there that
this has nothing to do with the neck down. It's
a neck up. It's a mental thing for Ohio State.
They're like in that position. And look, if the Fox
cameras would have tuned in at the right time, we

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may have even called a couple of yawns on the
Ohio State sideline. That's how suspiciously comfortable they felt in
that position. It's competitive character, it's the vibe, it's the
environment they create in that building. It's so hard to do.
It's the hardest thing in the world to do. And
you may think to yourself, that's not hard at all.
They've played inferior competition this year. That's easy. No, it's not. No,

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it's it's easy for Ohio State to beat Rutgers on
US Saturday. That's true, but that's not what I said.
I didn't say they've beaten a bunch of teams. They've
beaten a bunch of teams while preserving the characteristics of
a team that has been in dogfights all year, even
though they haven't been pressed. It's just in competitive characters

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and saying. Ryan Day may be doing the best job
coaching that he's ever done this year, and he's getting
very little credit for it, because well, they don't judge
until the end of the year if you win a
national title, and that's when people decide whether you were
a good coach or not. I know that because this time,
a calendar year ago, many people didn't think he was
the right guy for Ohio State period. So we don't

(22:54):
need to relive that. That's ancient history. Julian's saying zero
pressures yesterday, it's a little different. It's a little different
when Michigan can't get consistent pressure and stop the run
with four it's a little different. The way that game
plays out. Their defense is amazing. Man, Matt Patricia's higher
it's so funny. It's again, it's like watching the end

(23:17):
of this game watching the final score versus how you
felt six minutes into the game a little bit different. Well,
Matt Patricia, when he first got hired, how you felt
versus how you feel now. It makes you want to
erase how you felt. It's kind of embarrassing in retrospect
than anyone ever doubted it, just like it's embarrassing in
retrospect if you ever thought Michigan had a shot in

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this game early on. Do you know how desirable the
Ohio State defensive coordinator position is, or any position on
their staff is. Ryan Day could have conducted a national
search and he would have had a hoops hoops of
defensive personnel in the country beating down his door. There
are several head coaches at the G five and even

(23:59):
P four level that would gladly have taken a promotion
to be the defensive coordinator at Ohio State, because that's
absolutely what that is. And he went and got Matt Patricia,
and everyone said, do what now, Matt, do what Matt Patricia?
Oh no, he didn't stutter. Yeah, Matt Patricia, And here

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we are. They're better. They're better than they were last year.
I don't even know how it's possible they just got
a bunch of answers. I think it was Joel Klatt
on the broadcast yesterday. He put it really really well.
He articulated it really well. He said, while a lot
of the other contenders down the stretch just leave you
with more and more questions, this team keeps giving you

(24:39):
nothing but answers, like quarterback, no doubt, wide receiver that
there hasn't been a doubt offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator. They
had to replace both check check running back position. I
was at Auburn last night and they honored the fortieth
anniversary of Bo Jackson's Heisman season and it wasn't even

(25:00):
the most memorable Bo Jackson moment of the day. Yesterday
watching Ohio State with a tailback named Bo Jackson, that
was more memorable. All due respect to Bo at Auburn,
but there hasn't been a wake up call all year. Like,
if you're trying to pick them apart, the one thing
you have to cling to is there's a wake up
call coming where someone finally gets them out into the

(25:22):
deep end into the fourth quarter and you know they're
good enough and they specifically match up well enough, and
you know maybe that's like Oregon. Last year, Ohio State
emphatically did that to Oregon, and it didn't matter that
they were the one seed and they were undefeated, because
once you lose in the playoffs, you're out. Short of that,
if Ohio State's not going to be vulnerable, then the window,

(25:44):
you know, the the field of who can win the
national title is very very very small and maybe one
team deep. Honestly, as for the Michigan side of things,
I understand a lot of folks who were saying today,
this really kind of deflates Sharon more and I get that.
I kind of feel that way. I think it's fair
to feel that way. That doesn't mean give up on him,
that doesn't mean sell on him. It's nothing like that.

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But this was kind of what Sharon Moore had He
had either been a part of the staves or been
a head coach of the Michigan staffs that were part
of this four year run. And now that run is done.
So outside of that, you look around and they had
a bad year last year other than the Ohio State
win at the end of the year in the Bama
Bowl Game, but outside of that, there was nothing to

(26:28):
write home about. And this year, they're gonna finish nine
to three. But they lost the three biggest games yesterday
plus the Oklahoma game plus the USC game. In those
three games they score thirteen, thirteen, and nine. So what
is Sharon Moore gonna become? Like? What's the best version
of Michigan under Sharon Moore? Totally fair question. The Signetti

(26:49):
curse is real, by the way, with anyone who's asking
for patients. I mean, you got a guy come in
the door at Indiana and light the world on fire immediately,
and no one has patience for you anymore. At Michigan
to take several years to build a winner. Is that fair?
Probably not? Is it reality? Yes? It is Big Ten

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Championship game Saturday. Speaking of Indiana, they are five and
a half point dogs against Ohio State. Big week, guys,
it's conference championship week. Yes, But I just we got
a live show Friday in Atlanta. I'll talk about that later.
We'll be in New York Thursday doing some stuff with ESPM.

(27:32):
We'll still be back in Nashville by the time the
show is supposed to air that night. Just a lot
going on. Thank you so much for making it possible.
Subscribe to the channel if you haven't already. I mean,
that's what I enjoy or what I appreciate rather more
than anything, well, that helps us do all this stuff.
John summer al is the new head coach at Florida.

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Now they were in the Lane Kiffin sweepstakes. So if
you're gonna go from Lane Kiffin to pretty much anyone
else who was available in this coaching cycle, I guess
that you're going to be disappointed. You shouldn't be disappointed
about John Sumrall. Truthfully, many of you don't know a
lot about John Sumraw, which is totally fine. Others of you,
pretty much the rest of you are scarred in the

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Florida fan base because you just remember going to the
G five ranks in the state of Louisiana and bringing
in a guy who ultimately failed. So I have taken
a totally new approach on head coaching hires ever since
Freezing Cold takes through my old Jonathan Smith take in
my face earlier today where I said, and I quote,
Jonathan Smith will win at Michigan State. He got fired

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today unceremoniously. I'm not predicting anything with coaching hires anymore.
I'm not even gonna predict it with Lane. Maybe it'll
work out. I guess it'll work out. But I can
give personal testimony for who you're hiring. I can give
my personal feel on the hires. So John Sumrall is
going to be compared to Billy Napier Lazily because he's

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from the G five ranks in the state of Louisiana.
And hey, man, we just we just hired a guy
from the G five and since he didn't work out,
no G five coach could ever work out at Florida. Now,
of course that's pretty insane and pretty low hanging fruit thinking.
I will tell you this, there are ways, there are
scenarios where John Sumrall doesn't work out at Florida. If

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John Somemral doesn't work out of Florida, it's not going
to be because of where he came from. It's going
to be because of what he lacks. And that could
go as much as him coming from the NFL as
it could from him coming from high school. He could
have been a head coach in the Big Ten. Does
he have the critical factors and characteristics that it takes
to win at Florida? So I know John, So I've

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been around him, so I know some of the things.
He has very very much a type a, very much
an alpha personality. Now Will muss Champ is too, so
I know that doesn't guarantee anything at Florida. He's very
intentional with the way he structures his program. I think
most importantly, he's very flexible. So you know, you could
you could find, especially a young head coach's resume, and

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you can pick it apart and say, oh, look look
at that stat Look at this stat. Well, this is
not a guy who is unflinchingly rigid. He's rigid towards
one thing, and that's winning. Outside of that, John Sumrral
is the kind of guy who could go about things
one way one year, and if it delivers C minus results,

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wadded up, throw it in the garbage, say we're gonna
do it a totally different way, if that means me
changing my philosophy, if it means me hiring new staffers.
He's not just totally married to one way of doing things.
He's married to winning as a concept. That's what he's
married to. But the other important note is he's ascending.
So it's my personal opinion that some araw is going

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to be a big name in college football for a
long time. I think most people who are around him
feel that way. But he's got a pretty infectious personality.
So there are guys who totally suck at football who
have infectious personalities who could fool you into believing in them.
So it doesn't match. Just cause someone likes you doesn't
mean you're a good football coach. I actually think he

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is a likable good football coach. Likable not in a
sense that he's cuddly or warm or you know, overly
fun to be around. I mean, there's nothing wrong with
being around John Someraw, but John Somemraw could also stick
a knife in the side of your neck if it
means getting an extra three points to win a game,
which is the kind of attitude that I would want
if I were a Florida fan. He walks in knowing

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the score of them. Though. What I will tell you
in talking to him a couple of times over the
past week is he's keenly aware of the vibe around Florida.
He is not stupid. He is keenly aware that they
wanted Lane Kiffin there and they didn't get him, and
they got him instead. John Someral is the head coach

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at Florida, and he is keenly aware of who the
last head coach was at Florida, and he is keenly
aware of what level of football he came from, what
state he came from, and what he failed to do,
And it is only natural to draw the conclusion that
the fan base will be very skeptical when they go
that route again. He knows all that, I know because

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he's told me he knows all that, and so he's
the kind of guy who says it before you have
to say it now. I don't think for us for
a moment that it gives him any hesitance in taking
the job or having full confidence that he can do
the job. And I think in very very short order
Florida folks will buy into it, and not just because
you have no other choice. I think Florida folks will

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buy into John Somerawl because he will get a really,
really good staff in place down there and they'll execute
the vision. And I think he'll win there. Absolutely think
he'll win there. I think there was a reason why
his name was involved in every one of these coaching searches,
and it's not just because his representation's really good at
floating his name out there. It's because a lot of

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people view him as the next big thing in coaching circles.
So here's the other thing I'll just ask, And this
is out of my control, it's out of John some
Raw's control. Really, is Florida going to be what Florida
is supposed to be? Very very open ended question. There
is a working theory out there, and I really can't

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prove the validity of this. I know everyone has their theories.
I'm there's a working theory out there that the reason
Lane Kiffin sort of looked at Florida and then looked
past Florida was because when they raised the hood on
the program, they didn't really like what was inside the engine.
There were some things that were turn offs. Now, anytime

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he asked people to give you specifics, they him har
around as me. Mal would say, well, if that is
the state of affairs down there, then Florida's got to
make its mind up how serious Florida is about winning
football games and being a successful program. Because I don't
really care who you just hired if you don't have

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the under the hood portion in a state of comparability
to the other big time programs in the SEC. It
doesn't matter who's in the driver. So I say that
kind of open ended because I think it's a little
unfair to just throw that stuff out. Oh man, Florida
is a mess. Really give me particulars. I don't have them.
Maybe not say that then, So I ask the question,

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it's Florida what Florida is supposed to be. If Florida
is what Florida is supposed to be from a support standpoint,
from an investment standpoint, then I think John summerl will
win there. I think there is a world where you
look around three or four years from now and say,
you know, in retrospect, I think we got the best
guy for the job, regardless of who we originally chased.
Maybe we end up getting the best guy for the job.

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Wouldn't shot me at all, because nothing that happens in
coaching hires ever shocks me anymore. Let's move on, a
ton of show. I have a ton of show in
my hand. Thank you for joining in live. Jesse tells
me it's our most watched live show, highest traffic show ever,
which is crazy because we're thirty four minutes in. Subscribe
to the channel if you haven't already. I was at

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the Iron Bowl last night, Bam Auburn twenty seven to twenty.
Quick trip fueled us all the way down there and
fueled us all the way home. Look, you tell me
this game is going to be seventeen to nothing Alabama
at any point, I tell you ballgame. I said that
on the sideline last night, BAMA goes up seventeen to nothing.
I leaned over to Savannah State and said, this one

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could get out of hand. In fact, I said, this
one's probably over right now. Truth be told, get through
four quarters. I don't know that Auburn's going to put
seventeen on the board. Well, they ended up putting twenty
on the board, and they ended up tying the game,
and it stunned me. But Alabama did find a way.
I would give this for chi life. There was some
debate internally because esthetically it wasn't always the most pleasing

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of games. But when you combine one possession and it
goes down to the wire, it is a rivalry game.
Jorden Hair Stadium at night, Questions about whether the venue
is haunted, Questions about it. I've been there many a
time for Minnie and Iron Bowl, and I can't totally
disprove it. And that's where I'll leave that. This does
make six in a row for Alabama, and that stat

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kind of snuck up on me. Like I remember back
in the day Auburn won six in a row against
Alabama and it was like a huge marketing campaign. I mean,
Tommy Tubberville, like, how many fingers can I hold up now?
Four or five? Oh? Look, I need a second hand.
I didn't even know Alabama had five in a row.
They're just kind of tossed into the stat sheet at
the end of the game, like, uh, here's they hand
you a quickie statistics sheet after the games and just

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a little footnote at the bottom, this makes six in
a row. And I said, wait a second, twenty's one, two, three, four, five.
I guess it does. Well. We ended up kind of
being right on the money about the game. Profile Remember Tuesday,
when we predicted the game, Pickbama to win, Pickbama to cover.
I said, it really feels like the Oklahoma game for Alabama,
And that is exactly how Alabama. Alabama won this game

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the same way Oklahoma beat Alabama. That's exactly how this
went down because Bama was plus two in the turnover battle,
OHU was plus three against them, and therefore it didn't
matter that oh you got out gained. It didn't matter
matter that a bunch of the other stat categories leaned
Alabama because they critical one did not well last night.
It turned out not to matter that Auburn had a

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four to eleven to two eighty total yardage edge or
a two point fifty nine to one twenty seven passing edge,
which is wild one twenty two my bad third down.
Auburn was eight of nineteen, Bama was four of seventeen.
None of it matters because your plus two turnovers, and
you know, you may call that randomized, which it kind
of is. But Jesse, weren't there like four fumbles that

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Auburn put on the deck and Bama only got one
of them? What game does that sound like? That sounds
exactly like when they played Oklahoma the other day there
were minus three turnovers. But anyone who watched the game
knows Bama was lucky to only be minus three because
there were several other balls got put on the deck
and got punched out that they happened to recover. So
forget the idealistic approach to the Alabama season. That's out

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the window. You gotta be realistic now. I know everyone
keeps watching them, Bama fans keep watching them and saying, man,
why can't we just explode? Why can't this offense just explode? Well,
probably because you're beat to death. Ryan Williams has been
an afterthought, just a total ghost. Teams don't really respect
your deep ball because you can't complete it consistently enough.

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They know you're not going to run the ball to
beat them, and so what does that leave. It leaves
a very very limited toolbox. And I mean they're having
a formation and scheme their ways to first down. I
got to run nine miles to get two yards on
some of these third and fourth critical downs. But they're
doing it, so you got to give them credit. Ty Simpson,
I think it's pretty obvious. Far less than one hundred

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percent running back room beat to das. Jam Miller went
out of this game last night. He left the stadium
on crutches. Josh Quavis, I thought his absence was really
felt in this game last night. I said last week,
I thought he's been maybe their third or fourth most
important offensive player. So no, timetable on when they'll get
him back or if there is one, I haven't seen it.
But they found a way to get the job done.

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I mean, bam, because of winning that string of games
they won. Was not in a situation where they needed
style points. They just needed to win the game they did.
If you told me Friday they're gonna score twenty seven points,
I would have cashed it. That's gonna be good enough
to win. And it was good enough to win, not
by much, but good enough to win. Pretty inexcusable effort
from Auburn. I gotta be real. You knew you were limited.

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You got the interim head coach over there. He's coaching
for his life. DJ Diurkin, you're starting. I mean it's
gonna be backup quarterback because it has been all year,
because quarterback's been a disaster for them. But you just
had drops everywhere, and Ashton Daniels was really the only
ground game that they had. And they had a chance,

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even after all that, to tie this game. And they
really really had a chance in about the i'd say
like the middle eight parts of the game. Towards halftime.
They had two ten play drives to end the first half.
Got six points off of them, and that really, I
know that didn't end the game because they went on
to tie it. That to me is the turning point

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in that game. So with Bama, do we just keep
waiting because it's SEC Championship game week, which they are
playing in, by the way, so congrats to them. There's
no more waiting for their offense to click. The only
thing that can make their offense click, you know, to
the degree that you're talking about when you say that
at this point would be they need time off. They

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they need to rest, they need time to heal, get
guys back. Until then, this is gonna be the vibe
it is. It is. It is duct tape, it is bubblegum,
it is paper clipping your way to offensive production. Pass
pro was ugh little effie last night left a little

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something to be desired. It's a tough building to play in, though,
But every game for Alabama's going to be an emergency landing.
Right now. You get it up in the air and
they're gonna be alarm bells going off all over the place,
and the meter is gonna be off the charts, and
you're gonna have sirens, and you're gonna have panic and
you're gonna have papers flying around all over the place.
There will be a path to landing the thing every week.

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You got good enough players, you got a good enough staff.
They're very resilient. There will be a path, but they've
got to thread the needle. It's a very low margin
for era team right now. It is very much a
tightrope walk. There's so much labor that goes into every
first down right now, but it's there, it's on the table.

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They're a two and a half point dog. I think
against Georgia's Saturday, there will be a path there. George
just beat to death too, Okay, So it's like a
mass unit going into Atlanta against another one, and the
one who can survive basically and keep eleven on the field,
the entire game has a decent shot at winning Iron Bowl.

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Always a memorable experience. Love that thing at night. Make
sure make sure you experience that one now. I'm mentioned
the SEC Championship game. So that's going down this Saturday
in Atlanta. We'll be there and there will be some
details on that game coming up soon. I think gonna
be pretty exciting. But as for the things that I

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can talk about right now, Georgia. You're locked in. You
know you're gonna be there. Bama, You're locked in. You
know you're gonna be there. Many of you are going
to be in Atlanta that Friday night before this is
when we push this event. Friday night, seven pm the
Buckhead Theater and Buckhead, Georgia, which is just north of Atlanta.
We have our first ever full live show. Not a

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live show in a sense like I'm doing right now.
I mean a live event. I mean special guests on stage.
I mean not broadcast anywhere. So the only way that
you see it is by being there in person, very interactive,
past the mic, around the audience, a lot of back
and forth. I normally only do that with students in
college classes. Exclusive merch that I can't even get my

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hands on yet. They're gonna be quick trip giveaways galore,
going to be a lot of giveaways. It's going to
be a fun night. Tickets are available now. We have
a very very limited amount left. I don't expect these
still last all week, so I would highly advise you
if you want to be there, get in now. Paytstatemateial
dot com. You'll see the live event tab there. We're

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looking very very forward to that. Look. I mean, we
didn't even know what size of venue to book in retrospect.
Now we know we can book bigger venues. But we'll
get a really really good crowd in there and have
a lot of fun Friday night. Let's roll on, Jesse.
I think it's a good pace. Now, we already thought
we would have been an hour in. I see some

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money coming in on the under right now, two hours,
we'll see got a big crowd watching live. Just make
sure you guys are subscribed. That's it. That's all, okay,
I'm done asking back to the show. Alex Golish to Auburn.
This news got me more excited than Lane kiffinto LSU today.
It's not a bigger higher at least on the surface,

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but we kind of had a pretty good feeling Lane
was going to LSU. I didn't think last night Alex
Golish was going to Auburn. I thought it was gonna
be DJ Durkin. Auburn totally botched their coaching search this
week at the eleventh hour, and I was so confident,
and I was so complimentary that Auburn had gotten the
job done and they had gotten it to the finish

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line because they had and then they tripped all over
themselves and I really really thought they'd screwed themselves. I
was very disappointed in Auburn. And then they picked themselves
up and they got over the finish line, and it
was like watching arm again. It's like you got to
go land the shuttle on the asteroid and there's way
more tail to breathe than you ever thought, and the

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other shuttle gets blown to bits and it's just you
and the glass is cracking and everything, and we landed
it somehow. Now you still got to drill the hole
and plant the nuclear weapons and get out and blow
it up, and so you know, there's still a lot
of work to be done. But at least you landed
on the asteroid. At least Auburn got a really good

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head coach that most of you don't even know. Most
Auburn fans did not wake up this morning intimately familiar
with Alex Scolish. That's okay. Will he win a national
championship at Auburn? Guarantee you will? Nope, Nope, I don't
guarantee it. I don't think legally I can do that.
Will he win an sec championship one hundred percent. Nope, nope,

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I'm told I can't do that either. I got no
clue if he's gonna win there. I am irrationally excited
though about Alex Scholish at Auburn. I know what works
at Auburn. I grew up around Auburn. We've seen a
whole lot of what doesn't work at Auburn, haven't we,
Ladies and gentlemen, Yes we have. You don't even have
to be an Auburn fan to shake your head. The

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difference is Auburn people are shaking their heads frowning, whereas
LSU and Bama and Georgia folks are shaking their heads laughing. Boy,
rival fans have enjoyed this stretch of Auburn football, So
anytime you make a new hire, they get a little
bit nervous because the last thing that the league wants
is for Auburn to figure itself out. That's not fun

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for anyone. This guy will be so universally adored there
within a year that I can't really put into words
how good a fit he will be. The ultimate fit
is winning games. So it doesn't matter how much you're
liked if you don't win games, you will be hated.
That is the nature of this business. You're paid seven
to eight figures per year in exchange for you having

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some thick skin. We all understand that. I don't know
you have to say that, but not a lot is
known about him. I think you will come to know
him very quickly. He'll be the kind of guy that
every couple of weeks you hear a SoundBite from and
you go, man, dude, I kind of wish that was
my head coach. I wish my head coach sounded a
little bit more like that. Now. I'm going to say it,
like I've already said two times, I'm gonna say it

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a third time. Gotta win, gotta win. But I will
tell you one of the things I'll guarantee you, quarterback
is not going to be a problem at Auburn much longer.
I'm looking at the list right now. It sounds a
little something like this. Kyle Frasier, Clinton Moseley, Jonathan Wallace,
Nick Marshall, Jeremy Johnson, Sewn White, Jared Stidham, bad Bo Nicks, TJ. Finley,

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Robbie ash For, Peyton Thorne, Hank Brown, Jackson, Arnold Ashton, Daniels. Yeah,
that's coming to an end. They may lose games fifty
to forty seven, it won't because they can't score anymore.
So that part that nightmare is gonna be over quarterback development,
quarterback play. That won't be in question much longer. With

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Alex Goldis being the head coach at Auburn, I wonder
how he's gonna do though. Man, the pressure cooker that
is Auburn. You know, Josh, this is the only job
in the SEC where you're guaranteed to face Georgia and
Alabama every year, Gotta play the Iron Bowl every year,
Gotta go between the hedges every other year. I don't

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know a lot of expectations on Alex Golish. I just thought,
can he rise to the occasion or is he gonna
melt under the pressure. I don't know if we have
any other coaches in the SEC that fled the Soviet
Union amidst a military coup in nineteen ninety one with
four hundred dollars in their pocket. But they've got one

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at Auburn now. So there's a sneaking suspicion in my
mind that he's going to be okay with the pressure.
I just get the feeling that of all the coaches
in the SEC that have proper perspective on life and pressure,
something tells me out it's Goldish has it. Something tells
me he has it. I will also tell you, much

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like I said, with some role, there were two coaches
today that were hired that I fully believe would put
a knife in the side of someone's neck to win
a game. That's the other one. That's the other one.
We'll go down We'll go down there eventually in the spring,
and we'll have him on the show and we'll start
to showcase a little bit of his personality. I'd imagine
you guys will see press conferences before them. Was that

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Matt Berry? Is that Matt Berry's first ever appearance on
the show? Out of nowhere? Matt Berry like stinging from
the rafters. The rest of the league has loved this stretch.
Like I just said, Auburn has not been good. I
stood on the sideline last night and just shook my
head at what I know that place can be, and
it hasn't been. Auburn is a very unique place. Some

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most college football programs, most fan bases claim their places unique.
A few of them actually are Auburn's one of them.
I grew up very close to there. I know about Auburn.
It's a very unique place, but only when they're winning.
When they're losing, they just have the same complaints everyone
else does. For some reason, it's been really really hard

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for the powers that be to get out of their
collective way and allow Auburn to be Auburn and for
the natural resources there to be properly leveraged and utilized.
In the rare exceptions in Auburn history where they have been,
it's been this really really unique night marriage place to
go play. There's this very unique energy. I really don't

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know how to quantify or verbalize this. There's always been
like a unique vibe and energy around the Auburn fan
base itself. Again, I don't know if you've been around
it when they're good, you know what I mean. If
you haven't been around it, I'm probably wasting my time
because you would just have to experience it anyway. If
Alex Golish is the kind of guy that goes in

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there and their scoring points, like, I think that although
in the past, like Auburn has won with like high
level defensive play, I really view an offensive guy. I
really view an innovator, a really really aggressive, like nobs
approach type offensive innovator that's really good with quarterbacks and
really understands how to ingrain himself into the DNA of

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that community. That's the guy who's gonna win there. Alex
Golish is that guy. It's no guarantee that he's gonna win.
I think he's that guy. They will love him there.
Auburn folks will love Alex. And I don't care if
you had to enter his name into Wikipedia today and
you don't wan anything. You don't know anything about him.
You've got several months before you play a meaningful football
game again. You got time to learn who he is.

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I'm excited about that higher. I'm very excited about that higher.
I think that it could have gone so bad. Man,
I can't reiterate this enough. All Right, Auburn, they deserve
some credit for getting themselves towards the finish line with
John Sumrall. They deserve a mountain of criticism for fumbling
it at the eleventh hour. And I think it was

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going to be Dj Diurkin. I thought as recently as
yesterday Dj Diurkin was going to be the head coach there,
and this is no disrespect towards him. Auburn needed more
than that. I think they got more than that with Alex.
And it could be a situation where you just stumble backwards,

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tripping over yourself over the finish line. But then you
look up and what we want? Oh, well we won.
If you win, it doesn't matter. No one remembers how
rocky the final approach to the landing was as long
as you landed. A lot of plane metaphors on the
show tonight, a surprising amount of them when it comes
to coaching hires. I love that, dude. I love the

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fit there. There was a lot of talk about Alex
Golish in Arkansas. Al's very lukewarm on it. Alex Golish
and Auburn. I'm all in on. I'm all in on
that as I am, or as am I as I
shall as we are on Academy sports and outdoors. Bradley
still thought I was talking about Auburn. No, I'm talking
about Academy, multiple academies in the Auburn, Alabama area. I

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know because I was there last night and we saw
many of them appreciate Academy. They've been a longtime partner
of the show. It's getting cold outside even down there.
Last night it was like forty five degrees, which is
basically the Arctic tundra. If you grew up where I'm from.
So I wore a pea coat last night, That's how
much I've not evolved. I would call that regression professionally,

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but or personally. But I wore one last night. Didn't
get it from Academy. My point is I needed cold
weather gear, and I really humiliated myself wearing that thing
when I should have just gone to academy. I'm kidding,
I'm kidding. I appreciate certain someone who dressed me last
night because I couldn't dress myself. But if I didn't
have Savannah State around, I could have gone to Academy

(53:29):
and they would have been totally fine. They would have
hooked me up. They can hook you up. And you
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If you can't get there in person. We got so

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much show left, so much show left. Let's continue. Several
more takeaways from yesterday, right quick. Like Vanderbilt just boat
race Tennessee in Knoxville, forty five to twenty four. These
are not typos. I'm told, five hundred and eighty two
total yards what combined? No, no, no, no, just Vandy.

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They ran for three fourteen on Tennessee. So if you
do the math on that, if you start in Knoxville
and you run for as many yards as Vandy did,
I think you get like halfway back to Nashville. I
think thereabouts. Metric system stuff there out rushed him three
fourteen to eighty three. This was just thorough second half destruction.

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This was a team that showed up with a little
bit of a sugar high, that being Tennessee. And then
there was another team that showed up on a mission,
and that was Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt's the better team. They emphatically
proved that. And it's an absolute shame what the situation
looks like it is right now. If I am to
believe the Apee pole which dropped Vanderbilt a spot, I'm

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not kidding about that. They dropped them a spot after
this game. If I'm to believe that, and I'm to
believe that that pretty consistently reflects the opinion of the
playoff committee, then Vanderbilt's going to get no tangible benefit
or no tangible reward from this game. And it's a
great win. And I am telling you, if you imagine

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nothing more than a logo switch and you look at
that resume, can you slap an LSU logo or you
slap a Texas logo on Vanderbilt's resume? I have zeroed
out in my mind. They're in the playoff. You know it,
I know it. Everyone knows it. And the other shame
of it is they beat South Carolina early in the
year on the road. South Carolina was eleventh at the time. Well,

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no one cares anymore because South Carolina's not a top ten,
top fifteen team. LSU was number ten. Brian Kelly's still
there when they came to Nashville to play Vandy, Vandy
beat him, No one cares. You don't get credit for
it anymore. LSU season fell off a cliff. Missouri was
fifteen when you beat him, and then Missouri's quarterback went
out in that game and Missouri season went off the rails.

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No one cares. You don't get credit for it. So
they had a lot of quality wins or so they
appeared early midpoint of the season, and specifically South Carolina
and LSU did not hold up there into the bargain,
and they're as responsible for Vandy not making the playoffs
as Vandy is. I mean, Vandy's two losses are at
Alabama at Texas. So you keep that ten and two,

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and you go back to July and you tell anyone
Vandy's going ten and two. I'm asking what seed they are,
not whether they're going to make the playoff. I'm asking,
are we about to see Vandy host a playoff game
in Nashville? And right now they need help to get in?
Just blows my mind. Man, good for them, though, good
for Clark Lean and Vanderbilt and they re signed him.

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So Clark's staying at Vanderbilt, which means Barton Simmons is
staying at Vanderbilt. Our local neighborhood GM here and they
are making some recruiting headlines lately as well. I see
Oklahoma seventeen, LSU thirteen. The best way I can describe
this game for those of you who were not able
to view it is Oklahoma totally and completely blew through

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a red light and did not have to pay the price.
We've all done it before. You just go right through
a stop sign, you go right through a red light,
and it's like nothing happens, and you look back and
you go, oh, man, I just ran a red light.
It's just my luck. No one was coming, but they
could have been. Just like yesterday, when you're in a

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game with a combined twelve three and ounce, you lose
the turnover battle three to one, and you're relying totally
on a couple of cap buster plays and a killer defense,
which they did and they have. You are playing with fire,
especially against what should have been a limp dead body
of a team in LSU coming in there, and you

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mess around and they've got the lee late and you
take it. And seventeen thirteen is the final. And look,
I'm not taking anything away from Oklahoma. Sometimes you mess
around and don't have to pay the price. They ran
the red light light last night, they don't have to
pay the price. And because they went to Tennessee and one,
and because they went to Alabama and won, and because
they beat Missouri last week. They're good. They're in the playoff.

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I think case closed, but technically we have to wait
and see. Oregon twenty six Washington fourteen. Did you notice
how quiet this game was yesterday? No one really talked
about it, and that is a good thing. Quiet is
very good, and so is Malik Benson. Malik Benson is
like the Oregon poster for talent acquisition, Marshall Malcow does

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not need my advice. Dan Landing does not need my advice.
Maybe they need my advice, you know what, I'll send
it anyway. That guy needs to be put on the
cover of any kind of art or literature that you're
sending out to guys. Cause Malik Benson wasn't an organ recruit.
He was a Bama recruit, and he went to Bama,
didn't do a whole lot. Then Florida State got him

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and he didn't do anything there, and then Oregon got him.
So Bama and Florida State had shots. And yet it's
Oregon where he's going off five cats, She's one hundred
two yards and a touchdown yesterday. They're gonna get a
home playoff game at Oregon. They went on the road
this year and beat Penn State, beat Iowa, and beat Washington.
And I know people in the South look at that
and turn their nose up at it. Those are very,

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very hard places to go, just like you guys talk
about South Carolina even when they're bad, that's a tough
place to play. Well, Washington's a whole lot better than
South Carolina this year, and so that's a tough place
to play with a half decent team. And Oregon took
care of business. Penn State. I think we all know
that was a different cup of tea earlier in the
year than they were late in the year. Although I

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think you'll be shocked to hear what I'm about to
say in just a second about Penn State as it
relates to the acc They got three weeks now at
Oregon one two, three weeks to get healed up. Are
we gonna get more? Back to Coreyan Moore, You're gonna
be okay. Evan Stewart, We're gonna see him again, Gary Bryant,
host of other guys battling bumps and bruises and worse.

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Three weeks and then it's a playoff time in Eugene, Oregon.
You may be thinking to yourself. We're almost an hour
into the show, and yet suspicious in her absence is
a certain guest that we have on from time to time.
I'm not looking for anything other than my chapstick. Press
can't find it. Oh, hold on, I don't want chapped

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lips for the Sarah McLachlan Special. You know how it
is so supply. Look, I'm not gonna beat around the bush.
There's only one place I could go for the Sarah
McLachlan Special. It's not a program, it's an entire conference,
or at least something that used to be a conference.
The ACC is the Sarah McLachlan Special. A team from
Texas lost late at night in California and it has

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potentially cost the Atlantic Coast Conference a spot in the playoffs.
That is the realignment hell that we have found ourselves
in the doomsday scenario for the ACC, once thought to
be dead, is actually very much alive. We are a
duke win away in the ACC championship game from that
conference potentially being shut out of the playoffs. What that's

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not possible? Yes it is, Yes, it is. It is
very possible. Fan Duel hit me up before the show
and they would like to inform you, to really hammer
home the current state of affairs in the ACC that
no matter whether Virginia wins the ACC Championship or Duke
wins the ACC Championship, either of them would be over

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a field goal underdog against Penn State. Penn State going
to a bowl game, I can't even remember. Virginia one
half of the ACC Championship game. Found their way there
by playing NC State and losing but not calling it
a conference game, and then otherwise avoiding number two, number three,

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number four, and number five in the league standings, because
when you have thirty seven teams in your league, that's
how schedules can look. Ladies and gentlemen, the ACC is
on the precipice of fall, totally off the playoff cliff,
and they have no one but themselves to blame. The
ACC is this week's Sarah McLaughlin's special Never thought I'd

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see the day. The Big Twelve is pretty straightforward. Texas
Tech legally assaulted West Virginia forty nine to zhing yesterday.
They are I thirteen and a half point favorite against
BYU in the Big Twelve Championship game this Saturday. I
think that that is one of the few chaos scenarios
that we'll talk about later. If Texas Tech wins that thing,

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it's pretty straightforward. The only thing we wonder is what
do they get a five seed? Do they actually get
into the top four and get a first round by
remains to be seen, But I do want to point
this out before we move on. I just I know
it was very sleepy, and it was off the radar,
and it was in Oklahoma State, and no one cares.

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It is my proud duty to inform you that Iowa
State finishes this season eight and four. People in Athens,
Georgia eight and four, big deal people in Columbus, Ohio
gross eight and four. Well at Iowa State. They have
finished above five hundred in conference play ten times in
the entire history of the program. Matt Campbell is responsible

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for eight of those ten. But by all means, keep
looking elsewhere in your coaching searches. You guys seem to
have it all figured out. The G five AAC Championship Game,
North Texas minus two and a half against Tulane. It's
Friday Night, the Sun Belt JMU, the Fighting Preses as

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we call them around here. They're a twenty one and
a half point favorite against Troy. And look, if either
one of those winners from the AAC is likely going
to the playoff, JMU may very well go to the playoff,
and we are headed for chaos. We are headed for
some really difficult conversations when it comes to G five

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inclusion in the playoff. Don't worry. I'll be here, the
Michael be on and we'll charge it up and we'll
be ready. I'm ready to remind you that as of tomorrow,
thirty days in November. Yeah, as of tomorrow, it'll be
December this year. We're gonna have Christmas in December. I'm
told it'll be the twenty fifth. That's right, Jesse. Yeah,
Christmas is going to be on the twenty fifth this year.

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And leading up to that, you have about three or
so weeks to hit the pet State store and get
loaded up on the tiss. The season collection, all the
Christmas merch is over. There tis the season to be chuggy.
I saw one of those in person last night at
Jordenhair Stadium. The Merry Christmas, you filthy casual aggravates me
a little bit that was not my design, but it

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is flying off the shelves. So all's well. That ends well.
Paystammterial dot com is where you can get it. Now.
I know a lot of you missed the Black Friday sale. Actually,
judging by our numbers, most of you didn't miss it.
If you did, I have it on good authority that
tomorrow is Cyber Monday. So I have breaking news. This
is worth a pop of a paper if you feel

(01:04:57):
like saving twenty five percent off anything in the entire store.
That can happen to you starting right now, like right
this second. The team is hitting go on this through tomorrow.
So about the next what thirty six hours or so,
maybe a little bit less than that Cyber Monday twenty
five percent off store wide. We just slash it. We

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just Sladh. Bradley's revenue share won't be quite as big,
but we're slashing it. There you go, moving on. This
is gonna be a tough It's gonna be a tough segment,
and a lot of you will not be personally affected
by this. But Arkansas has a head coach. That's the
good news. It may end right there. Ryan Silverfield, the

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Memphis head coach, has taken the Arkansas job. That is
official as of today. Now, it is my opinion that
this was a cluster of a search. It was tough though,
because Arkansas was not in the pole position, so they
didn't have the luxury of lsu where as soon as
they walk in the room, everyone shuts up and waits
for them to make their move, so then then they
can make their move. That was not Arkansas. Arkansas was

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over in the on deck circle and they had to wait.
And I mean they thought they had Alex Golish, and
then Golish said no, and he took the Arburne job.
And I really stung him because I think they thought
they had him locked up. But the Arkansas search, if
it taught us one thing, it taught us that never
say it's done until it's done. Well, it's done now.

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Ryan Silverfield is the head coach here. I think you
have to be thankful that someone was willing to take
the job. I'm not saying that sarcastically. I really do
mean that the desirability of this job was really called
into question during this search. There are a couple of
reasons for that. I'll talk about him in just a second. Thankful, though,
is not how I would describe Arkansas fans right now.

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I told you, oh, you can be thankful. You don't
have to be thankful. There was a small but very
spirited protest there in the Greater fate Valaria today. I'm
told it was mostly peaceful. Some of the participants DMed
us mostly peaceful protest. But that says it all. That

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says it all. I don't really know why you have
to hide your identity by putting a paper bag over
your head, because everyone feels the same way. It says
it on that poster board there. God save Arkansas, and
that's really your only hope right now. God has to intervene,
busy though he may be, and say I'm going to
bless Arkansas, and boy is it needed. It's needed, really,

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really bad. I hate it for him. This is an
extremely passionate, extremely engaged fan base. I've always loved going
up there. It's hard to go up there right now
to go to a game because we try and go
to the biggest games in the country and they haven't
been in that in quite a while. But if you man,
if you give Arkansas a winner, they'll really be all

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in the default position here for me is that I'm
very skeptical this is going to work out, not because
I don't believe in Ryan's Silverfield per se. This is
nothing against him. You're look like Mike Norvel at Florida
State ironically also came from Memphis. Like, I've got nothing
against Mike Norvel, but it hasn't really been working out

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for him there. I'm not doing that thing where I'm saying, oh,
if you get a guy from Memphis, it's not gonna work.
It just happens both of these guys from Memphis. But
Ryan Silverfield, where's he going? If he's going to a
place that's all in, everything's lined up, he just has
to knock over the first domino. Well, then it just
comes down to whether he's good enough football coach at Arkansas.

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It's it's, regrettably, unfortunately, about a lot more than just
that right now. So you've got the desirability of the hire,
how good is he? And the reality was you were
never gonna get what you deemed to be a Grand
Slam higher because if there was a Grand Slam out there,
one of several other better openings would have taken him.

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So you had to roll the dice a little bit,
and they did, And so the desirability was probably always
gonna be in a state of uncertainty. But the second part,
the commitment level of the program. That's what everyone was
talking about behind the scenes. I've never been up for
the Arkansas job, probably never will. I know people who

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have been, and that was the talk, and the talk
is it was put this way by someone who would know.
If you got to say the word if three or
four times when it comes to how you win at
Arkansas or anywhere else, it's probably not a great place
to be right now. So that's a good news bad news.
The good news is the ifs exist, which means the

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possibility is there, if the ifs are met in the affirmative,
that you can be a big winner. Here's what that
sounds like. If the proper resources are in place, and
if you get the Tysons and the JB Hunts and
the Walmarts of the world on board, therefore, if we
can open that recruiting pipeline to Dallas, then we can win. Well,

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here's the problem with that. If I go there's the
head coach. I don't control what the big mega donor
bases up there do with their money. I can try
to convince them what to do with their money. But
it doesn't matter how many brands you have to flex
in your backyard. If they're not able to be leveraged
by you, he doesn't really matter. Just so happens there's

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big industry in your backyard, Like, who cares if they're
not all in on Arkansas football. That's what I feel
about the Ryan Silverfield higher. I would have felt that
way about Goalish if you went up there. I'd feel
that way about anyone. I'd love to be proven wrong
on that. But ma'am at Utah, Georgia, LSU, Missouri, Tennessee,
at Auburn, at Texas, at A and M at van Dy.

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They play all those games next year. By the way,
I should have told you, I was reading Arkansas twenty
twenty six schedule. They go to Utah and out of
conference play and got Georgia, LSU, Missouri, Tennessee, Auburn, Texas,
A and M and Vandy in conference play. I wish
him luck. I have never met Ryan Silverfield. I've met
a lot of people at Arkansas. I know how bad
they want to winner. I hope everyone around there wants

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needs to win. I hope you need to win because
you are very very much behind the eight ball. And
here's the trick that you have to get passed when
you're trying to convince big money donors, big corporations to
contribute to your overall nil efforts. But they're not really

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wise to college football, the new world of college football.
Here's the catch twenty two. Even if you get them
to spend money, that's not the end of the that's
not the end of the line. That's not the win.
The win is to get them to keep spending money
or keep investing money. But here's the problem. When they
spend it the first time and you don't immediately win,

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they ask, well, we're paying more money, why aren't we
winning more? Well, the dirty secret simple math, actually, but
it's tough to tell a donor. This is you're not
paying me five million dollars to win more games. Your
five million dollars and everyone else's money collectively just went
to match everyone else who's also raising that money. We

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got to pay a baseline just to remain competitive. But
the problem is, back in the day, you didn't have
to pay that much money to win. So everyone thinks, well,
since I'm paying more now than I used to, we
should be winning more now. Than we used to. That's
the challenge right there. I don't care if it's an
individual donor or a corporation. These are businesses and business

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people and they want return on investment. And there's a
dynamic in place right now that, like you got to
explain to him that's not the way it works, per
se without saying that's not the way it works, because
then they just take their money and go elsewhere. They're
watching us in Saint Simon's Island, Georgia, Mexico City, Mexico,
Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Well, I don't know if it's bad

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news or good news, but I've got news. The AP
pole has dropped at the conclusion of the regular season.
And I got a lot of comments about this. I'm
pretty upset about it. I've also got a mind boggling statistic.
I have it right here. I'm not even gonna wait
until the end. Courtesy of Peate State Investigates, we have

(01:13:21):
exclusively uncovered damning information about the AP pole. Did you
know that, as of today, twelve of the preseason AP
Top twenty five teams have finished unranked. Twelve, almost half
of the preseason AP poll Top twenty five teams finished

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unranked Penn State, Clemson, LSU, Arizona State, Illinois. The list
is too long. I'm not going to read it all.
You can see it if you're watching, and if you're listening,
you get the gist. Wow, just wow, couldn't be made.
I don't have an AP vote. Here we go. Missouri
has checked in at number twenty five. I think that

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could be significant, but I don't know how. But it
could be. Georgia Tech's twenty four, Navy, Arizona TWU Lane.
All right, so North Texas and JMU are twentieth and nineteenth.
A lot of the AP really looks the same as
the college Football Playoff rankings, except with the G five teams.
We have learned that the committee does not rank the
same way. Don't know why, but the committee's been much

(01:14:27):
lower on those teams. So at the very end of
the year, do we see them sort of pull alongside?
Do we see them come into agreement rather with the AP.
That's important because of the autobid process for the high
highest ranked five conference champs, And that's a very very

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tangled web that we'll talk about in just a little while.
Michigan is at number eighteen, after the loss to Ohio
State didn't drop a whole lot. Usc Is at seventeen,
beat UCLA Top twenty finish Lincoln Riley. I'm told the
program is in disarray. I don't know that I would
describe it that way. Maybe just not good enough yet.
Virginia sixteen, Utah fifteen. This is where it gets interesting.

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So Texas is fourteen? Is that where the committee will
have them? I think it'll be pretty close. Realistically, Texas
needs to be in the top ten to make the
playoff bottom line. Vandy is at thirteen. Why is that interesting? Well,
just because they blew out Tennessee yesterday in neland and
they were twelfth when they did it, and they dropped

(01:15:31):
to thirteenth. Now I could sit here and rail against this,
and I feel like it. A logical person listening to
it could say, okay, man, you sound very performative and
hysterical right now, because in order for you to be
mad at where Vandy's ranked, you got to tell me
who ahead of them should drop. I'll tell you most

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of them, but they're not going to. But here's my point.
If I took that, let's see, where's one. If I
took that Michigan logo and I put it over Vandy's resume.
Do you think Michigan would be thirteenth to ten and two?
Because I don't. I personally don't think that. Not just that.
Imagine Michigan having beaten the teams Vandy has beaten, and

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their losses are to the team's Vandy lost two, I
just think they'd be ranked higher. So yeah, I mean,
they're not the first smaller, normally non competitive program to
have to deal with this and overcome it. They're just
the latest. But it's a shame because Vandy is sitting
at ten and two and I never ever thought that
would see an SEC team finish ten and two and

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be left out, and it just so happens to be Vandy.
And it'd be one thing if it were Alabama, because
Alabama's normally in the race. So if they missed out
last year rightfully and they're right back in it, Vandy
misses out this year, there's no guarantee they'll be right
back in it. So that's a shame. Miami is twelve,
Bring him young as eleven? Is that the order they're in?

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Does Miami jump Vanderbilt in the College Football PLAYFF Committee rankings.
We have to wait another thirty six hours to find
that out. Alabama's number ten, Okay, I have to assume
that's where the committee will have them. That's where they
had them last week. As we go into SEC Championship week,
I have very strong opinions on this. I'll save it

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for later in the show and later in the week.
I am telling you I saw all the prediction metrics
out there. I'll obviously, if Alabama beats Georgia, they're in.
They probably have a top four seed in a first round.
By if Alabama loses Saturday, they're not leaving them out,
And I don't think the playoff committee will leave them
out because I don't think they can leave them out

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because I think the SEC would just burn the whole
thing to the ground. I'm not even sure what I
mean by that, but you'll notice the SEC has not
said a word. Everybody's been floating this scenario. Bama. By
the way, although they're ranked behind Georgia, Obama is technically
the number one seed in the SEC. That's why they'll
have the home jerseys Saturday. Like by the SEC standings,

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they are the one seed. You're telling me in a
twelve team playoff. We're on the precipice of the SEC's
one seed missing the playoff entirely because of the results
of a conference championship game. I do not buy that.
That's a rubicon they're willing to cross. I don't buy that.
So we'll see if the committee agrees. Notre Dame is nine,

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Oklahoma's eight. A and M dropped four spots to seven.
Now that's obviously important, five, six, seven, and eight. If
these were the playoff rankings, those teams stand to have
home playoff games. So as it stands right now, and
if this again is the playoff Committee's opinion, A and
M would host a game at Kyle Field in three weeks.
It sucks that you lost to Texas. It's really not

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the worst place in the world to be right now
if you think about it. Ole Miss is sixth, Texas
Tech is five, and then the top four pretty predictable
Oregon four, Georgia three, Indiana to Ohio State one. I
just can't get past that stat man twelve of the
top twenty five preseason teams. It just finished unranked altogether.

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Like it'd be one thing if they just finished lower.
They finished unranked altogether crazy stuff, crazy times. Appreciate you
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Just click subscribe and then do it on your mom's
phone too. She'll appreciate it. If she doesn't immediately, she
will in time. The Penn State coaching search continues. Everyone
else is hired a coach ole miss didn't even know
their job was open until today. They already filled theirs.
I mean, I don't really know where we are. I

(01:20:01):
really don't know where we are. I will I will
tell you this. This search feels lost. It has for
a while. It feels lost to me. I say that
with some hesitance, because you just never know. Pack Craft
could be duping everyone and he could have a home
run grand Slam like turn the world on its ears

(01:20:22):
mystery candidate, and he's gonna unveil it, and everyone including
me has to say, wow, big apologies to pack Craft.
I don't think that's where we are, but maybe that's
where we are. So what we need to do is
we need to step back for just a second, and
we need to acknowledge the latest reporting and the latest

(01:20:44):
rumor and intel that we've gotten. We think they're a
meeting with Kalani Staki, who is the head coach at
Brigham Young. This has been pretty widely reported in Penn
State circles. So if you're following Penn State, this is
not news to you. If you're not following Penn State,
that probably came out of field a little bit. I
have no clue how advanced their talks had been with him.

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I have no idea if he'd be a fit. He's
never lived anywhere close to that portion of the country,
he's never recruited over there. It could be oil and water,
it could be a great fit. I have no idea.
I don't even know how interested he is. I am
pretty sure he would want to coach in the Big
Twelve championship game this week. The whole purpose of firing
James Franklin when they did was to get a head
start on the coaching search market. Well, everyone else has

(01:21:30):
come in behind them and filled their spots before. Penn
State has so fail on that part. And also, if
you end up firing James Franklin early in the season,
only to wait for a guy to coach in the
conference championship game, therefore missing the national signing Day window.
You also screwed yourself, so it's well documented. I thought

(01:21:50):
it was done to fire James Franklin. It's well documented
many Penn State fans disagreed with me, which is fine.
Here we are now. By the way, you just have
the added caveat you made Virginia Tech one of the
big winners in this whole ordeal, because not only did
Virginia Tech massively upgrade their situation, they hired your former

(01:22:11):
head coach who was in the national semi final less
than twelve calendar months ago with no scandal since then
that could explain his firing. And they got a head
start on recruiting, and they're gonna poach your players, and
they're gonna poach your support staff and they're good to go.
They're ready for National signing they or they're getting ready

(01:22:31):
for it this Wednesday. You have no clue who your
head coach is going to be. So the question to
me is not what the prediction markets say. By the way,
we got to learn this lesson, guys. You got to
learn to stop using prediction markets as gospel. Prediction markets
know absolutely nothing about coaching hires. Now. Look, I have

(01:22:55):
been very successful betting politics for a long time, and
that's where the prediction markets can tell you something like
when we're looking at congressional races and it's two weeks
leading up and you're like in an R plus three
district and the Democrats starts to tip up fifty five
sixty sixty five percent, that's cause there's pretty pretty rock
solid data. There's very very reliable polling that's going on

(01:23:20):
that gives you tangible reason to see those markets move.
These are coaching searches. There is no tangible information. It's
what's being said on Twitter and message boards and then
a bunch of people betting it. And relative to the
political markets, where there is substantive information and tons of
people betting on it, the prediction markets for coaching searches

(01:23:44):
are still very new, Which means if I go in
and I drop one thousand dollars on Lincoln Riley to
Penn State, I could fundamentally alter that market. I didn't
know anything about what I just did. I don't think
Lincoln Riley's going to Penn State. I was just having
fun with it, and yet I just moved the market.
Just be careful, be very careful. Coaching searches, and this

(01:24:06):
really relates to Penn State. To me right now, coaching
searches remind me a little bit of my days and
talk radio. So when I first did radio, I learned
about theater of the mind, and theater of the mind
was always an important veil to maintain theater of the mind.
People who grow up now you may not understand. I
came around at the very tail end of the FM
radio era, where like, if your mom and dad are

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driving you around in the morning, the local fmdjs, I mean,
they're like, you're best friends, but you've never met them.
You've probably never seen them before. You don't know what
they look like, you don't know what they're really like,
but yet you have a fully developed idea of their
persona in your head. The worst thing you can do

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is meet them in person. They say, don't meet your heroes, Well,
also don't meet your favorite radio host because they can
only disappoint. Because your mind, the theater of the mind,
it builds up an image far greater than what the
reality is going to be if you meet the guy
on the street corner. Coaching searches are sometimes like that
in your coaching search. If you're a Penn State fan,

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you like to believe there's a grand master plan and
there's just a very very cerebral, diligent, intentional approach being taken.
They are all these folks who are beaten down the
door to get the job. And sometimes that's the case.
Sometimes it's not the case, but the illusion is maintained,
and then other times it's not the case and the

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illusion is not maintained. And we are firmly in the
third category with Penn State right now. So I really,
even as of today, November thirtieth, I have no idea
where they're going to go. I said last week some
of the guidance we were getting on it was of
all the jobs that were open, everyone knew Florida was
gonna get filled Sunday, Auburn was going to get filled Sunday.
They were even fairly confident Arkansas was going to get

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filled Sunday. LSU was absolutely going to get filled Sunday.
The one they kept coming back to me and saying
they didn't know about was Penn State. I don't. We
really don't know if Penn State is going to be
filled Sunday. And I was like, how National Signay Day
is Wednesday? And they were like, we know, but we
don't know. And I still don't know. Wednesday is signing day.

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The class is falling apart. I don't I don't know.
I'm not here to I'm not here to question whether
athletic directors are qualified for their job. Ninety five percent
of what they do is behind the scenes. But this
seems like it's been a mess. The way to salvage
it is prove everyone wrong and hire a grade head coach.

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And I hope they do because I love the Penn
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It's one of the reasons I address the way I do.
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I save this for the end of the show because
I really don't know how to feel about a lot
of this. The college football Playoff rankings will come out Tuesday,
and that's the last batch of rankings we get before
selection Sunday. And there are three scenarios that just keep
burning a hole in my heart as to whether any

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of them unfold and how chaotic it really could be.
And I wrote them down, and the first one is
very simple, Big twelve Chanterampionship game. What if Brigham Young
beats t beats Texas Tech. They're a thirteen and a
half point dog, so maybe they won't. But what if
Brigham Young beats Texas Tech Saturday it's gonna be early
game eleven am local kick, so you'll know early in

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the day. Do they both get in the playoff? I
would say almost absolutely. You know Brigham Young would be in.
They're the Big twelve champ and Texas Tech's not going
to fall out. I don't think so. They would both
be in. So who gets knocked out in this scenario.
Who gets knocked out could be Alabama, could be Oklahoma,

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could be Old Miss, which I'm about to talk about
in a second, because I don't think it's fully dawned
on people that that's possible. Could be Notre Dame, which
is viewed like as sacrile. Notre Dame, it's their birthright
to be in this year's playoff. No, it's not. They're
likely in. They're not a slam dunk in because of
things like this. So I could see a world where

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Texas Tech or runs it up on Brigham Young and
they remove themselves from the equation. I could see that.
It's tough to see Brigham Young beating Texas Tech, but
I could see it happening. In that point. They're both in,
and the question of who gets knocked out? I mentioned
those four teams Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Ole, Miss Alabama. The

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Alabama part. I already went over this. It is a
non starter for me. If Bama's tenth are higher going
into Saturday, they are in that playoff. I think Fowler
said it properly last night. Ironically, I think Nick Saban
said it poorly when he said I think it's gonna
take two wins for Bama to get in. What where
did you coach up until five minutes ago? Fowler said

(01:30:40):
last night after the game, this win probably secures Alabama
spot in the playoff. Yeah, because it secures them a
spot in the SEC Championship game as a tenth ranked
or higher participant. So yeah, in a world where they
lose and they get dropped, that's also a world where
I just think the league office in the SEC burns

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the whole thing to the ground, and you may ask, well,
who's going to go in instead of who are they
going in over? I don't know. Probably someone who didn't
play for the SEC Championship would be my guess. What
about the ACC doomsday scenario. I just talked about it
in the Sarah McLaughlin special, but it bears repeating. I've
had more people ask about this than any other possible

(01:31:24):
doomsday chaos scenario that the playoff has to offer, because
many people are just now realizing that they didn't have
it right, like most people are not glued to this
stuff like we are. So most people were not aware
up until five seconds ago that the ACC is not
guaranteed a spot in the playoff. Most people just thought
the Power four conference champs are guaranteed a spot, and

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then one G five team gets a spot. No, that's
not the way it's written. That's just the way it
was gonna work out. Ninety nine percent of the time.
The way it's written is the five highest ranked conference
champs get the five off bids, and then you have
seven at larges. So people looked at that and rightfully thought, okay, well,

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out of the five highest ranked conference champs, certainly the
Power four will be amongst the five. And then enter
twenty twenty five, where the ACC has no idea how
to structure itself. They're not the only ones. And Duke
can go seven and five and still make the conference
title game and win it. They're two and a half

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point dogs. Guys, this is not out of the roma possibility.
And if Duke wins that thing because they're in the
game via a five way tie. If they win that thing,
they're not gonna get one of the auto bids like
the American I don't care who it is. It could
be Two Lane or North Texas. The winner of that
conference title game will definitely be ranked higher than Duke,

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so they'll get one of the auto bid spots that's available.
And then the other one is almost certainly going to
go to James Madison because they're going to be ranked
way higher than Duke. So if Duke wins that thing
and jm you wins as a twenty one and a
half point favorite, the ACC champ is not gonna be
in the playoff, which means the only other question is

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are they gonna put Miami in? And iron I was
talking to some folks last night. Ironically, that could be
the best thing for Miami, if it's really really like
nip and tuck, If the committee really does take Miami's
win over Pitt yesterday and bake it into the pie
and figure out that Miami and Notre Dame's resumes are

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right there now and they need one more thing to
bump it over. I think that one thing could be
staring into the ABYSS on selection Sunday, realizing uh oh
Duke won the ACC We're not putting them in. If
we don't put Miami in this playoff, we're about to
tell a power for conference, no, you're out. Are they

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willing to do that? I don't know, because we're only
two years into this thing. We're gonna find out. Well,
we may find out, or Virginia could win it, make
it a moot point. We'll see. But I just imagine that,
by the way, whether it be that scenario or whether
it be the Bama scenario, the Bama scenario would probably
be worse because I want you to imagine the SEC

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watching their league's number one seed, which is Alabama league standings.
I'm not talking about rankings right now. Imagine Greg Sanki
sitting in Birmingham at the league office watching his number
one seed play a conference title game, which is a
reward that they earn the right to play in. They lose,
the committee drops them out so that the committee can

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put in two G five teams and maybe two teams
from the Big twelve. Torch in one hand, pitchfork in
the other, burn it down. That would be the only
protocol for the SEC at that point. Speaking of the SEC,
we do have the small matter of the old Mess
disaster scenario to discuss amongst ourselves. Here. They're number three

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in total offense. That's good thing. Their offensive staff just
got gutted as Lane Kiffin left town. That's a bad thing.
No Lane Kiffin, No Charlie weis junior there, a lot
of the other guys are gone. How's the committee going
to view this? Now? I need to stop right now.
I need to tell you I hate what I'm about
to say. I'm not a fan of this. I don't

(01:35:23):
like that this is protocol. I'll go all the way
back to twenty twenty three with Florida State when I
got accused of flip flopping. People still get mad at
me on the internet for this stuff. Jordan Travis went
down and it fundamentally changed to Florida State was But
I went on the show and said, I don't care.
Injuries are a part of football. I don't care what

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the committee thinks. The impact on Florida State roster is
because the teams that deserve to be there should be
in the playoff. And then Bill Hancock came out right
before selection Sunday and said most deserving is not in
our lexicon. Those were his exact words. I went on
subsequent shows and I said, all right, well that's dumb,
But if that's the way the Committee's viewing it, then no,

(01:36:05):
Florida State doesn't belong in. Alabama should be in because
Alabama's a better team at that point, I think, than
Florida State. And it doesn't matter all of a sudden
whether you've earned something or whether you deserve something, because
the Committee says their protocol is we just choose the
best teams now. So that was where I had to
ignore my own emotion and acknowledge the committee's criteria back then.

(01:36:30):
Well fast forward two years, we may have that on
our hands again. The Committee's criteria says, just like if
you lose a key player to injury, it may impact
their view of your team. If you lose a coach
or coaches, it may impact their view of your team.
I just want to warn you guys, there is a
world come Tuesday night where, according to their criteria, hate it.

(01:36:52):
Though I might, you have to acknowledge that Ole miss
is not as good a team when several key pieces
of their coaching staff are gone, and you have to
deduct them because of that. I'm not advocating for it.
I hate that that's part of their criteria. But remove
my emotion and just acknowledge the criteria and you understand it. Yeah,
there's a world where you may rightfully bump ole Miss down.

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How far down they were seventh last week? How far
down would you bump them? And if we get in
the situation where there's a log jam of teams, everyone's
looking at these other candidates to be left out, ole
Miss is a candidate to be left out. It's in
the committee's protocol. I can't do anything about it. I
hate it. I would remove it today if I could,
but it's in there. And there are a couple of

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differences in this and the Jordan Travis injury a couple
of years ago. So Jordan Travis got hurt in Florida
State played a couple of games without him, and they
won them, but they were ugly. But there was a
little more definitive evidence to us that, Okay, yeah, pretty
obvious they are a lesser team without him. Now, whether
I liked it or not, that was obvious. We're not

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going to get to see ole Miss without Lane Kiffin
until the play a playoff game if they are given
a playoff game. So that is a sure fire chaos scenario.
And I don't really know. I don't really know a
lot about college football right now. I know I love it.
It's very addictive. And I know that the over under
for this show tonight was two hours and we got

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done with it in a Now we're thirty seven minutes, Jesse,
So everyone can pass their cash over here. We got
a very big week coming up, very very big week.
It's Conference championship week. We've got playoff rankings Tuesday night.
We've got a live show in Atlanta this Friday. We'll
be up in New York City Thursday morning doing a
lot of stuff with the ESPN. We'll be back down

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