Week 10 Upset Alerts + LSU Coaching Search Drama & Cole Cubelic Joins

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Look, I'm looking on my phone. It is technically not
November yet, although by Saturday it will be November. So
as for now, we're jam back. We're high a top
of a breezy downtown Nashville, Tennessee. It's Thursday. It's October thirtieth,
the year of our low, twenty twenty five. November is
upon us. Though we try and teach the same lessons
every year that Mema taught me growing up on this show,

(00:35):
and that is November is the longest month of the year. Now,
your calendar is going to tell you thirty days. That's
not true. In college football, it's about seventeen weeks long,
especially if you're a contending team, especially if you're a
Vanderbilt fan.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
You know, especially if.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
You're a Georgia Tech fan, especially if you're breathing this
air that you haven't breathed in a long time. It's
one thing to have enough gas to get to November,
but it's a whole nother thing to have enough gas
in the tank to get through November. Life changes for
you in November when you're a contender. So with that
in min, I got some upset alerts in front of

(01:14):
me because That's what the Thursday show is all about.
On the campus of Pate State University, Go Frights. I've
got some things about the LSU coaching search that we
need to talk about. I've got a commissioner's poll that
is ready to drop. I've also got col Kublick joining
the show. Yes, all of those things are gonna happen
on the show. We're jam packed. Doesn't matter that it's

(01:34):
a Thursday. We're jam packed and they're watching us in Canton, Ohio. Conway,
South Carolina is tuned in Beautiful with Tumka. Alabama is
tuned in, as is San Antonio and San Angelo, Texas
both got in under the gun. We're gonna do Friday
night lines late at night tomorrow night. So make sure
you're following on Instagram at Josh Pate CFB. I'm not

(01:55):
gonna beg you if you want to win money watch
It's as plain and simple as that. Guys, you've seen
just like I've seen. As we dive into the show tonight,
you've seen like I've seen the past few weeks. What's happened.
We've seen a bunch of games on Saturday. We've seen
some noteworthy outcomes, and then someone gets fired. And I
don't know that that's not going to continue to happen
this weekend. I mean, we're going to talk to Cublic

(02:17):
a little bit later. Kentucky Auburn. What if Auburn loses?
Are we sitting here talking about hu Freeze losing his job?
I don't know. I have no idea. I just know
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We don't need to charge for the channel. We don't
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be stupid. Please just subscribe. That's all I need you
to do. Okay, Upsets, Here we go. The upset alert,
the upset Alert concern meter. I just tripped over myself
so that I could have Bradley take the side shot.
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(03:00):
generators on the market, But can they generate upsets well?
I've got six of them in my hand right now.
That indicates perhaps this is what we do on Thursday.
We throw out some games scale of one to ten.
What is my concern? What is my upset alert concern?
First game? Penn State Ohio State. Everyone laughs, We should
just bring the laugh track back from the Tuesday Show.

(03:23):
This is a game of the year, right, No, No,
it just was in the preseason. And now yet another
lamb is served up for the slaughter in front of
Ohio State. Or are they unlike the previous lambs? This
is at least a top twenty five talent roster. Still,
what else can we say about Penn State this year?
Not all that much. They are coming off a buy

(03:45):
so is Ohio State. It is a super Bowl spot
for Penn State. But then again, Ohio State's used to
people treating them as their super Bowl. Penn State's got
to run the ball like forty five fifty times here
and just see what happens. Look, it could be that
Ohio State's run defenses rock solid. We're trying to nitpick here,
you know, we're trying to find potential deficiencies. They're not

(04:07):
gonna be glaring. It's Ohio State, it's the number one
team in the country. No one's even arguing that here.
The only thing that you may be able to say
about Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Is well, who have they played?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
And I make fun of people all the time, cause
like the Indianapolis Colts could descend into the sun Belt
and be the Indianapolis Colts in the sun Belt, but
people would say, yeh yeah, but who have they played?
It's the Colts. They're beating everyone by one thirty. Who
they played them? So Ohio State, who have they played
well compared to like Alabama schedule, not many, not many

(04:40):
worthy opponents. It doesn't matter if they're that good, they're
that good. The one thing you're waiting to see is
is there somebody like Penn State, Purdue, Ucla, Rutgers, Michigan.
Is there somebody that exposes something even if they don't
beat them that makes you go huh. Let's keep an
eye on that for the playoffs. But as far as
the upset alert concern, it's like a two and a

(05:01):
half from me, Like, no way Ohio State's about to
let this happen. Ohio State is one fifteenth and explosive
play rate offensively, which can fool you until you realize
they're eighteenth in cap busters. Cap Busters are the huge
forty fifty plus yard plays, which means, hey, if you
pop the top, you don't have to keep hitting plays
on that drive. The drive's over. You just scored. So

(05:23):
I'm putting a two and a half on this. I
candidly don't I expect it to be a very quick game.
I don't expect it to be in doubt in the
fourth quarter. That's where I am on that. Next up,
Texas Tech at Kansas State. This one's different. Texas Tech's
favored by seven and a half in Manhattan, Kansas, and
I need people to pay attention because nobody is. I

(05:44):
haven't heard much of a whisper about this game around
the country this week. You know what people are talking about.
Some of them are talking about Texas Tech. They're saying, uh, oh,
they got Brigham Young next week. Yeah, they do, but
they've got a game before that.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
It's against Kansas State.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Kansas State though they suck, No, they did, but they've
won three or four. Because that's the funny thing that
happens when you keep playing football games. You kind of
flow in ebb and flow in ebb and I said
it in that order for a reason because that's kind
of what Kansas State season's been so far. But they've
scored forty plus in back to back games. It's a
massive look ahead spot for Briging or for Texas Tech.

(06:21):
But it shouldn't be because they've already lost a game,
so they're vulnerable. They're still bleeding a little bit from
that Arizona State loss. They got back on track against
Oklahoma State last week. But everyone body bags Oklahoma State.
Oklahoma State shows up and all you do is unzip
the back so you can zip it back up and
then you toe tag him. You send them on their way. Well,
this is a different animal. This is Kansas State. It's

(06:42):
a really well coached team. What kind of Avery Johnson
performance am I getting here? Hey, Baron Morton starting for
Texas Tech. But the backups out for the year. Okay,
so we don't have anything to fall back on like
we have so far this year with Texas Tech. I'm
putting a seven on it. There are Sirius fall don't
lie to our implications on this game. I hope I

(07:03):
haven't been unclear there, wink nod. They got to get
the job done. Can't afford to lose this one. I'm
putting a seven on the Upsett Alert concern meter. Next up,
let's go to the SEC. I think people are falsely
believing that Ole Miss has just made it through the fog.
They went to Georgia, they lost, but they went to
Norman they won. And now it's kind of all right.

(07:24):
We can take a deep breath, and we can talk
about what seed we're gonna be in the playoff, and
we can talk about whether or not Lane's gonna leave.
And I'm sitting here the whole time, like, wait a second,
they're not off this week, and then other people are like, well, yeah,
but they kind of are because it's South Carolina. And
I'm like, same one that led Bama in the fourth quarter,
and they're like, yeah, but I mean that ripped their

(07:47):
soul out, didn't it. Well? Last year they played a
game like that against Alabama and they lost in heartbreaking style.
You know what they did the very next week, they
went on the road and smoked Oklahoma and it turned
their season around. And South Carolina is sitting here three
and five. They gotta win three to the next four
to even be Bowl eligible. It's gonna be a very
tall task. I will grant you that, But.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
That team hasn't quit.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
That team's fighting, and ole Miss is sitting here off
back to back high emotion spots on the road. You
still have Leonora Sellers playing for South Carolina. You still
got the ability to somewhat maybe run the ball here, defense,
special teams, maybe a complimentary effort on the road. Ole
Miss is They're not just some team that rolls the

(08:32):
helmet out. You can't afford to think that way. So
I'm putting a five and a half on the upset
alert concern scale here. This is one that I just
wouldn't be totally shocked if things fell. The right way
to see is a very tight ball game in the
fourth quarter. Next up one of the emerging darlings of
the college football playoff picture, Georgia Tech, favored by five

(08:56):
and a half at NC State. N c State's claim
to fame this year is they're the only ones to
beat Virginia somehow, and it wasn't even a conference game
against somehow. I don't know. Their results at Georgia Tech
are so tied to Haines King, which is a great
thing because Haines King is having a great year. But

(09:16):
if he doesn't have a great individual Saturday, they can
lose against anyone, cause there aren't you know, four or
five other folks that are really individually shining for them.
They're playing good enough to win, but Haines King's got
to show up. November, like I said, longest month of
the year. This is a classic case of a team
that's about to find out how long the month of
November can be. Georgia Tech run defense, what would you say?

(09:42):
What would you guess? Georgia Tech's ranked run defense eighty seventh,
Friends eighty seventh. Who has the ACC's leading rusher n
C State? Does Hollywood smothers? Do you smell what I smell?
I don't know. I'm just I'm putting an eight on
this game on the upset Alert concern meter. I have

(10:05):
moderate to severe concerns for Georgia Tech this weekend. Next up,
Cincinnati's at Utah and game days out there, and everyone's
got this game circled. And yet FanDuel looks and says,
eh Utah minus ten and a half, And everyone, as
far as I can tell, has put their hard earned
money behind Cincinnati. What do we make of lines that

(10:28):
make no sense. What do we do when the lines
make no sense? We run as fast as we can.
It's very scary. It's a good thing this game is
being played the weekend of Halloween. It's very scary stuff.
So we got Devon Dampierre against Brendan Soarsby really really
good quarterback match up here a couple of guys above
sixty five percent completion. Man, I told you guys the

(10:52):
other night. I was somewhat surprised to pull up our model,
which is not powered by FanDuel. It's brought to you
by fan duel. Well, but it's not connected the FanDuel.
But I told you in our model, Utah is the
highest rated Big twelve team, even above and beyond Texas Tech. Well,
this tracks like this point spread, as far as the

(11:14):
model's concerned, kind of makes sense. Now at that point,
you know, you could be driving around saying, oh, big deal.
You know models don't win games. Point spreads don't win games.
That's true, it's just predictive. Now we got to find
out how accurate the model is, how accurate the power
rating is Utah. You know, last time a bunch of
you watched them, they lost to bring him young. They
were minus two turnovers there, so the thinking is you

(11:36):
get home field at your back, maybe you flip the
turnover margin, or at the very least it's even I look,
I put an eight on this game. I'm very worried
for Utah. But our model thinks they win and cover,
and Vanduels got him at ten and a half. So
you're paying a premium if you think Utah is going
to cover. I don't know. I just don't. I've seen

(11:56):
Utah have a couple of opportunities to run away from
folks this year, and they really haven't. So until I
see it, I hadn't seen it. I'm gonna put an
eight on the upset Alert concern meter and the game
we're gonna be at, which we broke down the other night,
but I didn't want to circle around and quickly talk
about is Miami at SMU. Miami's favored by twelve and
a half. Now I have hit up our sources in

(12:19):
the weather community. I am the source low sixties at kickoff,
which for most of you is a lovely November day,
but it is basically the Arctic tundra for anyone from Miami.
So I am concerned here about the amount of long
sleeves that I'm going to see come out of that
locker room. I'm pausing for effect. I hope the people,

(12:41):
the proper parties that that is directed at heed that warning.
SMU is in a big bounce back spot. See everyone
else in the country saw SMU lose to Wake Forest
and they cast aspersions towards SMU. I look at it,
and I say, what better spot to bounce back? That
is what college football all about. That's what happens this
time of year, all the time. I think they're gonna

(13:03):
get an inspired effort from SMU. I already picked SMU
to cover this number earlier this week. You look, they
rushed the passer, they get after the quarterback. Defense is
not great at SMU, but they do get after the quarterback.
They're number one in takeaways as a result of that.
So if you can ambush Carson Beck and Miami can't
get the ground game going, there is upset potential here.

(13:26):
And remember Miami's another one of those teams still highly ranked,
but they've already lost. They lost to Louisville at home.
This is a seven for me. I'm putting a seven
on the upset alert, concerned, met there, still picking Miami
to win, still rolling with them to go to the playoff,
doing all of those things. But that doesn't mean I
can't be a little nervous. We're gonna be there, fueled

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I don't know. If they fueled all of them, I'm
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(14:39):
We got a game to break down here right quick
before I move on. I got some LSU coaching serch stuff.
I've got the commissioner's poll, so we still got a
lot to get to. You know, Florida Georgia happens this Saturday.
World's largest outdoor cocktail party known by no other name
on this show. Doesn't matter how much some corporate entity
pays to rename it. Nope, it was called that growing

(15:00):
up for me. It will always be that for me.
Georgia's won seven of eight. Actually, Georgie is undefeated in
the last eight years in non COVID world's largest outdoor
cocktail parties. Whatever the acronym would be there. Billi Goanzalez
is now the interim head coach at Florida. Kirby Smart,
I'm told, is still at Georgia, but it's going to
be Billi Gonzalez, And we don't know what Russ Calloway
is going to do this first time we've seen Billy

(15:21):
Napier not calling plays here, so we don't really know
what Florida team's going to come out of the tunnel.
We know the players, but we don't really know what
to expect. So what is Florida. That's the first question here,
because there is obviously the possibility that they've mailed the
season in. Now, if they've mailed the season in, if
you could tell me that that would be a padlock

(15:42):
stat that would be a paper popper. The end, Georgia
wins and covers, they win by twenty ballgame. If you
tell me that, I'm going to work off the theory
for the sake of this preview that that's not the case,
that maybe we get an inspired effort from Florida. Historically,
that's the way it works in college football. For whatever reason,
you got some coaching turnover or your starting quarterbacks hurt,

(16:05):
and both of those scenarios tend to have the opposite
effect that you would expect them to have. Now, the
players liked Billy, and the players are also in a
situation where in the NIL era you're kind of wondering, oh,
where am I going to portal? Where am I going
to be this time next year? So it's a little

(16:26):
different dynamic. We're kind of in uncharted territory here. But
if you got a new offensive play caller Georgia in
the seventies, pass defense not a good pressure team. They're
in the one twenties. Sacking the quarterback. Lagway could have
a game here, could happen. It's in the cards, a
bunch of catbuster plays. Joey Agilar was twenty four to
thirty six against Georgia three seventy one, four touchdowns, two interceptions.

(16:50):
So I mean, I got a quarterback here for Florida
that's thrown nine of them already to Gunner Stockton's one.
So if it if it comes down to turnovers, don't
love it. Go ahead and turn out the lights for Florida.
But there is a world, I'm granting you this. There
is a world where Florida comes out and it's like
the version that played Texas and they're just they're clicking
and they're not turning the ball over.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
That's a four quarter game.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Florida's got plenty good enough depth of talent to do
that to Georgia. Do I get another ceiling game from
Gunner Stockton. Florida defense should be healthier. That's the nature
of coming out of a bye. Gunner Stockton was needed
to win the Tennessee game early in the year, and
he did it on the road. He was needed in

(17:33):
the Old Miss game and that was at home, but
he did it. Will he be needed to win here? Now?
I believe in him if they call his number. Okay,
My follow up there when it comes to Georgia is
should you need it? Because I think about what I

(17:53):
saw Jake Roe talking about earlier today, and that is
the injury reports out for this game. There is no
Georgia offensive lineman listed for the first time all year.
Georgia's run the ball a lot better this year, thirty
third in the country right now, whereas they were in
the one hundreds this time last year. So if you
really want to find out what Florida has got left

(18:14):
in the tank, if you really want to find out
how much heart and soul's left in that team, run
the ball on them, cause if it's not there, it's
not gonna show up in the second half. And that's
how you remove all the variants of potential outcomes here.
You just run the ball successfully. You remove their will
to compete and their will to continue to sustain. And
that's one hundred percent in Georgiall win is that the

(18:35):
way this game plays out, watch that early on, there's
no way to know where Florida's head's at if I
was a Florida fan, There's no way I can know
where this team's heads at. Neither team really gets to
the quarterback much. Neither of them put up a good
havoc raid or sack numbers. Like I said, though, one
quarterback's thrown nine picks, one of them's thrown one, and

(18:56):
Georgia's run defense pretty good. So I think DJ's gonna
have to win the game with his arm if he
does win it, Let's take a look at what the
model thinks. The fanduelign right now is Georgia minus seven
and a half because I have so much uncertainty about
where Florida is mentally, and I already think Georgia is
a team that is better and capable of scaling in November.

(19:18):
Just watch them. This would be theoretically where that starts.
I'm taking Georgia to win and cover. I think they're
gonna make a little bit of a statement, but people
won't make a big deal about it because all they
will see is, Wow, you beat a team whose season
is already mailed in. Well, I think college football is
a little more complex than that, So let's take a
look at it. That's one thing. If they beat him

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forty to nine. It's another thing if they beat him
and you can tell what Florida fought here, it's got beat.
Let's take a look at it. Let's keep an eye
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the flex power generator is. Let's continue. It's not that bad.
LSU's coaching search is taking more of a winding route
than from here to Chattanooga, and that is a winding,
winding route. Lookout mountain, you've been through there. It's tough,

(21:06):
it's little treacherous. Well, I try to tell you about
the political hands in the stovepot, and now the world
knows because the world saw the governor down there, Jeff Landry.
And if there was any doubt as to whether that
guy was governor of Louisiana, there was no more doubt
when he opened his mouth, was there.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Now.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
I have no interest in talking about Jeff Landry's political
leanings or yours or mine. What I do have an
interest in talking about is how this affects the LSU
coaching search. I have a working theory about the LSU
coaching search, and it may also apply to other coaching searches,
but it applies to this one. For all I know

(21:45):
they're gonna land Lane Kiffin or for all I know,
they could go get Marcus Freeman for all I know,
because I don't know who they're gonna go get. I
don't know who they can get yet. It's very early.
They don't know who they can get because they don't
even know who's making the hire yet. They're waiting to
get a president put in place. And then then you've
got board of supervisors that answers to the governor who
says he's not going to be hiring the new coach.
But yet the people who are going to hire the

(22:06):
new coach have to answer to the person who says
he's not going to hire the new coach. So it's
it looks like a mess, feels like a mess. Will
it be a mess? If it is as it appears,
I think it has fundamentally impacted their ability to attract
quality candidates. Now it's early, it's not even November, as
you and I are talking. In other words, if I

(22:27):
am the head coach at Peyton State and I'm number
one on LSU's hotboard, Pete Nakos is called around and
he's got me listed number one, and it ends up
Pete right because he often is they call me today.
I'm saying, no, hit me back in two weeks. Get
your affairs in order, hit me back in two weeks, because.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
There's no way.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
I just watched what I watched on my TV screen yesterday,
and I'm about to say, yeah, I'm happy to come
down there.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
I had someone explain this to me the other day,
perception versus reality, and they used the LSU job and
they said, what you think about the LSU job? I said,
I think it's a great job and they said why
so I just rattled off some of the usual bullet
points and they said, that just means it looks like
a great job. And I was like, okay, seems like
you got somewhere you want to go make your point.

(23:13):
And they were like, you ever seen a beautiful girl before.
I'm like, I'm married to one. And they said that's
adorable and I said, yes, she is. But he said,
think back, though, before you're married. Think back, and there's
a there's just a ten standing right here. You're a
little bit aways from her. You don't know anything about her,
but you see her and you say to yourself what

(23:35):
you say the same thing most guys would say, Wow,
I wish, I wish, I'd love to, and then you
get the opportunity, and then you find out what she's
really about, and you find out that looks were one thing,
but her mother is a nightmare and her friends are
all disasters, and she's got thirty seven different emotional baggage

(23:55):
issues that you never could have planned for. And you're
constantly miserable. But your buddies are looking at you and saying,
you got your dream girl. What's the deal? What's the problem?
That is the LSU job if it's not handled correctly,
because you get the most attractive girl on the block,
and because you get the most attractive girl on the block,

(24:15):
everyone's envious of you because from the outside it looks
like you got everything you could ever want. Unbeknownst to them,
all kinds of issues behind the scenes, but no one
is ready to listen to you complain because you're dating
or you're married to the supermodel. And that's the LSU job.
It actually works against you. The more attractive your job
is on the surface, it actually works more against your

(24:37):
ability to hire a quality candidate. The bigger a mess
it is behind the scenes, because if the ul Monroe
job is a mess behind the scenes, no one talks
about it. But they also don't expect you to win
big at Uel Monroe. They expect you to win big
at LSU, and once you take the job, they figure
you got your dream job, and they're not interested in
why you're not winning. They don't care about alignment, they

(24:59):
don't care that you don't even know who your boss is.
They don't care about any of that. They don't care
that your NIL coffers aren't what they should be because
there's infighting with the boosters because some of them vote Republicans,
some of them vote Democrat, and a Republican governor puts
someone in that they don't align with politically, so they're
just gonna sit on their wallet. They don't care that
that's happening behind the scenes. They're just hating on you

(25:21):
because you're going eight and ford LSU. So if you
don't have a job, like theoretically, if James Franklin were
offered this job, he'd just take it regardless. But if
Lane Kiffin's being offered this job and he's got great
alignment and great NIL structure and great resources at all, miss,
you don't take the job unless you have absolute fundamental

(25:41):
guarantee and certainty that there's equal to or better alignment
and better ability to win where you're gonna go. I
don't know how anyone in good conscience can say that
about the LSU job right now, But they don't have
to say it right now. They've got some time. It's
a whole new world now where it's not December, it's

(26:01):
just now about to be November. You don't have to
You're not.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
You weren't. You weren't ever going to hire.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Anyone before Thanksgiving anyway, so it doesn't matter. But you
got work to do, and you got to do it quick.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
So I'm looking at Pete Nkos's hot board right now.
Lane Kiffin's in there one hundred percent, one hundred percent.
Lane's interested in that job. Marcus Freeman's on there. I
think there's a big difference in Marcus Freeman is interested
versus Marcus Freeman is serious. And I do not I
think anyone is interested in how they could do at LSU.

(26:33):
Everybody thinks about that, just like guys think about whether
or not they could win in the NFL. But that
doesn't mean everyone's looking for an NFL job. Or most
of them could even get an NFL job. Marcus Freeman
interested in LSU. I'm sure he's thought about how he'd
do in the SEC. Is he longing for it? Don't know?
Don't know. And certainly, even in the best of cases,

(26:54):
if Marcus Freeman was looking for it, not coming down
there with with that circus right now that just got
put all over everyone's TV screen yesterday. Kenny Dillingham's on
this list, Jeff Brahms on this list, Eli Drinkwitz, Clark Lee,
John Sumral's on that list. I just want to give
you what my working theory is. And this is not

(27:15):
speaking about anybody in particular, but I could be talking
about the LSU job here because I actually think there
are guys not even listed there they could kill it
at LSU. And that's more principled stance than me talking
about a specific candidate. I am a firm believer that
someone's Plan G is going to end up trumping what

(27:36):
their Plan A would have done for whatever reason, blessing
in disguise they miss out on Plan A, Plan B,
Plan C, whatever they got to settle for their sixth option.
Place like LSU, place like Penn State place, like Florida.
If you've got your affairs in order behind the scenes,
and you've got proper alignment, there are a lot of

(27:56):
guys that could win there if they staff right at LSU.
I'll go back to the same name I always use
on this show because I'm super high on him. Take
a Matt Campbell at Iowa State. Been there for a
long time. He's a great coach, he has good results
compared to comparable competition. He's got max roster and staff

(28:17):
buy in. Guys love to play for him, Guys love
to work for him. They have players constantly take less
to play for them because they believe in the culture
of the program that much. And that is huge, huge
when you get into the kind of nil bidding wars
that you get into in the SEC and you can't
see through him. He's fully genuine and authentic. I'm thinking

(28:38):
about guys like that. I could just as soon describe
John summerl the same way. I could just as soon
describe Brent Key the exact same way. But look how
far down that list they are. My point is, any
of those names, if you plugged him into LSU and
there was proper alignment and they did put together a
B plus or better staff, They're gonna win. There's no

(28:59):
mist there. There's actually a little more mystery to me
about Lane than there is about some of these other guys.
If there's not good alignment there, none of them are
gonna win like you want them to. But if there
is good alignment, man, I think there's still high risk,
high reward with Lane. I don't think there's insanely high
risk with some of those other guys. So my list

(29:21):
may look a little different, if that is indeed the
way LSU's list looks, mine may look a little bit different.
But my point is I could win with a bunch
of guys down there if the alignment is in place properly.
November long month, everyone, very very long month. The LSU
job search, I think, is still one that other job

(29:42):
searches are working downstream of a little bit. But I'm mentioned,
are there candidates that they're interested in that are on
no hot boards? Sometimes yes, sometimes no, That's what I'm
interested in. All right, let's continue. What do I have
in my hand? The messioner's poll is in fresh off
the presses. I would say the paper's still hot, but

(30:04):
it's freezing in this room. Right now, these are rankings.
This is not Tuesday Night, This is not the japee pole.
These are rankings. If I was an AP voter, if
I was filling out my playoff committee ballot, This right
here is what it would look like. And we do
have some movement. It is generated by flex power. Look,
flex power got no doubt what they can do for you.

(30:25):
They got no doubt they got the best generators in
the market. Do we have doubts about who the best
twenty five teams in the country are though? Yeah, maybe no,
no doubt at all. Look, I've got Washington ranked. Washington's
number twenty five. I was number twenty four. That's a
couple of Big ten teams that I think should be
ranked and are not. I do not have Texas in

(30:46):
this thing. Texas continues to underwhelm. I know that they
are a two loss team. They had to fight from
behind on the road in Startville last week. The week before,
they struggled against a bad Kentucky team. I'm not giving
you credit just for winning games, because this is comparable.
I mean, this is a comparative analysis, and I think

(31:06):
Washington and Iowa flat out have done more than Texas.
Right now. I got Utah at twenty three. Tennessee, I've
got ranked, but I've got them way lower than the
AP does. The AP's got Tenant. Sorry my kickstand on
the eye. Josh finally failed me. Didn't fail me the
other night though, that's when we got the breaking news.
Notice my insane focus here. Tennessee is fourteenth in the AP.

(31:29):
Pole I got them at twenty two. I'll tell you why.
I think they're being rewarded for losses to Alabama and Georgia.
Close losses. Fair. I gotta have a best win and
their best win, Jesse, what is it. It's like Arkansas
or something like that. So Tennessee's got Oklahoma this weekend,
and if they beat them, I think that will have

(31:50):
been Tennessee's best win so far. So Tennessee's okay, They're okay.
I just am a little bit lower than the AP
because I'm not automatically rewarding you for close laws. Is
that fair? Maybe not. I got Houston up seven spots.
I've got Houston ranked twenty one. Houston's impressing me, man,
I thought it was going to take at least one

(32:11):
more year. Houston's impressing me. Willie Fritz's name keep an
eye a little bit older. But then again, so it
was Kurtz Signetti. That doesn't matter. Michigan's at twenty. I
got Missouri down six spots to nineteen. And honestly, this
is a resume thing, right, so we're not projecting. I
project Missouri to lose more games cause their quarterbacks out

(32:31):
for the year. But I'm not going to punish them
for doing it until they do it. Because if you've
been wrong with even one prediction in your life, then
what you think is going to happen should not matter
in a resume based model. Like if God were filling
out an AP ballot, he can project he knows what's coming,
even in sports. I know it's debatable, I've always believed

(32:52):
that or he has the ability to know, so he
can go ahead and project Missouri to lose to A
and M. I cannot do that, at least on my
commissioner's poll ballot. Navy is at eighteen. The AP does
not have Navy ranked. The Unamerican AP does not have
Navy ranked. I do at eighteen, since he at seventeen,
Virginia at sixteen, Oklahoma is checking in down six spots

(33:15):
at fifteen. Big big game for Oklahoma this week, big
time Brent Vinnables six and eight, coming off a loss
at Oklahoma, and they're going to Kneeland fifteen versus twenty two.
Got Notre Dame at fourteen. Notre Dame I think has
better wins right now than Tennessee. See, they both got

(33:36):
close losses against good teams. Notre Dame's beaten Boise, they
just beat USC So Notre Dame's got better wins, so
they belong in the top fifteen. I don't think Tennessee does.
I don't think Tennessee belongs in the top twenty right now.
Louisville's number thirteen, Texas text twelve, Brigham Young eleven. Now,
notice I said to Utah, we've got them all the

(33:57):
way down at twenty three. But the JAP PEP pole,
which is a power rating, has Utah above every team
in the Big twelve. Just something to keep an eye
on there. Top ten got Orgon at ten, the AP's
got him at six. I keep looking and I keep
asking to have Orgon at six, just like I said

(34:18):
with Notre Dame, just like I said with Tennessee. You
got to tell me what the best win is their
best win continues to be Penn State, which I give
them credit for. I am not one of these people.
Is that is retroactively removing credit. But you got to
remove a little credit because Penn State ended up being dogwater,
so organ at six in the AP I got him

(34:39):
at ten. They got kind of low key dominated by
Indiana at home. Now they got opportunities coming up. We're
gonna talk about it in a few minutes with Cubilia.
They got four losable games coming up to close out
the year. I got Vandy at nine. Big game this
week against against Texas. Georgia Tech's at eight, Miami's at seven.
Ole mess has jumped five spots. They are number six

(35:02):
right now. I've got Georgia at five. The next three
teams from four to two are Alabama, Indiana and Texas.
A and M. We felt like they were interchangeable. I
feel like if I wanted to put Bama as high
as two, I could. I could make a case for
Indiana at two. I can make a case for any
of those teams in any order. I put A and

(35:22):
M at two, Indiana at three, Bama at four, and
then Ohio State is still pretty solidly, I think the
number one team in the country. Just the thing to
remember this week is there a bunch of games like
Vandy I got them rank ninth, Texas not ranked. Texas
a small favorite though. We've got Cincinnati the number nineteen

(35:43):
team going to play at Utah number twenty three, but
number twenty three is favored by ten and a half.
So again, this is not a power rating. These are rankings.
This is where you deserve to be because of what
you've done on the field, not because of what a
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Speaker 2 (40:48):
Well, you know him, you love him.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
You may not be aware of his new job title
of official Kentucky football sideline reporter, But Cole Cublick, it's
not formally of SEC Network. You're still with SEC Network.
You're just you're kind of doing Kentucky now you are
the man for Kentucky football. Three great facts you've learned
about Kentucky football over the past few weeks.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Well, number one would be not going to be on
the sideline this week. I'll be in the booth with
Tom Hart. So that's a swing and a miss on
your part. Thank you for the disrespect. Yes, correct and
looking more and more likely maybe Kentucky again next week.
Cutter Bowley, I think has the skills to make this
team better than what people think they can be. The

(41:31):
offensive line can still grow a little bit more. Bottom
line is they gotta have seth mcgallan in a running back.
And those aren't really like three factual things that I've learned.
But Andre's Pete left tackle one of the most interesting
characters in college football. This guy was recruited off of
an Indian Reservation, which is pretty amazing to think about.
And you hear stories from Mark Stoops or Eric Wofford

(41:54):
is offensive line coach, or his teammates. We talked to
Cutter Bowlie about a little bit this week and like
one of the most well thought out, like calm human beings,
like most interesting humans they've ever met. But get him
on the football field and he's ready to rip somebody's
head off. So pretty cool kid.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
One of the best you've ever seen recruited off in
any of reservation, like top ten at.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Least well so, Eric Wolford told us his story about
when he was recruiting him that he comes and sits
down and it's like basically some kind of a tribal
council comes in and sits down with him. And he
was like, you had like multiple chiefs that came in.
And he's like, it is the only time that I
have been legitimately intimidated during the recruiting process, he said,

(42:33):
because I had to sell all of them on him
coming to play football for us. And talk to Mark
Stoops about a little bit this week and I said,
the blueprint for that not He's like, he just laughed
and He's like, no, no blueprint for recruiting that yo
man at all, but they're happy to have him. Really cool.
I talked to him the last time we had him,
and just an awesome, awesome kid like reads books, always

(42:55):
asking like bush Hndon, the offensive coordinator, said that he
was walking out of the hall the other day and he said,
what's the last book you read? So us just laughed.
He's like, dude, I'm coaching football. I'm trying to read
books right now, Like what are you talking about? But
that's just kind of KIDDI is.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
So it's a pretty cool story that is shockingly similar
in description to how the LSU coaching search is going
down right now. Tribal councils, circular meetings, dark room, really
no blueprint for it.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
So you and I normally just sit here and about
the dark rooms. They're just having press conferences, calling each
other out, Yeah, telling everybody what they're going to do
and not going to be able.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
To do, which is frankly how it used to be
done and how it should still be done. In my opinion,
money ruins things. Money like calibrates things. Money should have
the opposite effect. Money should make you go full wild West.
It did once upon a time, we got great movies
out of it in America. It should be that way again. Normally,
when you come on the show, we may or may
not have texted earlier in the day about one or

(43:47):
two things we may or may not hit, but largely
we just ramble, sometimes coherently. Today though, I thought, maybe
a little structure. So we're at the dawn of November
right now, it's going to be November by the time
the game are played this weekend. What I wanted us
to do is picture of the things that would be
the most shocking but somewhat believable that could take place

(44:10):
over the next month of the season. So I'm gonna
float you one and my first one, and I just
want you to react like scale of one to ten.
How shocking would this be to you? Is everyone is
just misreading Lane Kiffin. It's either he's gonna take the
Florida job. If he doesn't take the Florida job, it'll
be because he took the LSU job. Those are definitively
better jobs. I've seen reporting out there that everyone would

(44:33):
be well, many people would be shocked if he stayed
at Old Miss and number one I'm not quite sure
people know how good he has it at all Miss,
or how good the infrastructure is it all Miss right now.
But forget about what everyone else knows, forget about what
you and I know. It matters what that guy thinks.
How much scale of one to ten? Are you shocked
if he's just still there when all this dust.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Settles five point five on the pay meters?

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, because I went five and three quarters, So that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
You can go quarter point there you go. I don't
think I would be totally shocked. Now we're gonna look
at these jobs and say, guys, that's Florida. Guys, that's LSU,
and that's fair, It's totally fair. But we saw Lane
knocking on the door of the playoff last year. It
looks as though he's in this year. That would be
one thing that I would be shocked about, as if

(45:22):
Ole Miss actually doesn't make the twelve team playoff this year,
based on what they've already done, the resume they have,
and then what lies in front of them. He's also
proven that his style of recruiting is very conducive for
today's college football. He's also proven that that can work
at Old Miss. He revamped the entire receiver room, he
had a first round quarterback leave, he had multiple guys

(45:44):
drafted early, not just on defense, but along his defensive
front seven and one of the best corners off the
board of the draft, and the defense hasn't taken a
big step back. I think he has the staff put
together that he wants, that he likes, that he thinks
he can go win with, and he's got the people
behind him to be able to play today's college football
game when it comes to putting your ross together. I

(46:04):
imagine not a lot of people mess with him over there.
I imagine Keith Carter probably goes out of his way
to make sure Lane has what he wants, gets what
he wants. And it would be tough for me to
imagine you leaving a situation like that, believe it or not,
actually said that last time around, actually laid out in
the middle of a game, how good he has it
at old Miss right now and what he's done, and

(46:26):
then other people's words wanted to be misconstrued and forced
on me still are today. But nonetheless, Josh, I would
not be completely shocked if that this is actually a
bad game, because I say all the time nothing in
college football shocks me anymore, but I'll play along.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yeah, have we ever done an old miss segment on
the show that you didn't twist around into being about you?
By the way, does that ever happened? Will it ever happen?

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Nocause I think we just did our first old miss
segment on your show?

Speaker 1 (46:51):
So all right, try and shot me. Hit me with something.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
This one's out there now, I mean, this is stick
with me. Maybe I should scale it down to two,
but I'm gonna stick with three. Florida the Gators knock
off three ranked opponents the rest of the way through.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Oh no, so.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Jesse, if you don't mind, if you can get the
Florida schedule up there for us from the corner, he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Gonna got Georgia this weekend. That's gotta happen.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
What else?

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (47:24):
So Florida's gonna do it. They're gonna knock They're gonna
be at Kentucky. That wouldn't count as a ranked win
at ole Miss Tennessee then Florida State, so they'd be
getting Georgia ole Miss in Tennessee, which, if you listen
to our broadcast last week, Tennessee was up by forty
at this point, so I'm not sure why you would
have still been tuned in. But we went through the

(47:45):
schedule moving ahead for Tennessee and I kind of stepped
out away from everybody else and said, I think Florida
is the most difficult team remaining on their schedule. Now,
if you're just talking stylistically personnel, still probably Vanderbilt, especially
the way they're playing as a team. But Florida being
the week before that game for Tennessee in Gainesville, with
possibly a little bit of look ahead that one bothers

(48:08):
me for the Tennessee volunteers, and I just say, styles
make fights here. The stretch play in the run game
would have to go for Florida. Jaden Bodge, Kobe Jackson
would have to be getting the ball going on the ground.
We don't know exactly what Russ Calloway's going to do
with the offense, how it's going to be different, it
won't be exactly the same. So what are your tendencies
that you're looking for here? From a Georgia perspective? Do

(48:29):
you know inside the red zone on third down from
the left hasse what they like to call you don't
so DJ Lagway would need to protect the football as well.
If that took place, a couple of those disruptors up
front defensively, which I think Florida has a handful of,
are going to need to be problematic. So I just
look at stylistically specifically for Old Miss and Tennessee, how
they can slow that game down. They can limit the

(48:51):
possessions of those two football teams and be problematic that way.
And then those are the Old Miss offensive line not
as good as the Tennessee's, but how the Tennessee offensive
line functions with side protection, gap protection, which we talked
about on Cube Show this week. They have the ability
to penetrate, disrupting, cause problems there. So a lot would
have to go their way. But with a week off

(49:11):
before Georgia, you have some inherent advantages there. Should be
healthier and should be able to hide some things that
you hadn't run yet this year. That's one that I
ask you, how much would it shock you if Florida
actually pulled it.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Off doing all three of them, It would be like
a nine point five on the shock scale. However, any
individual game there, we talked about this, we wrote the
game down earlier on the show tonight they're playing Georgia.
I think the huge differentiator when you look at conference
versus conference right now is look at Ohio State and
the gap between them and Penn State, and look at

(49:42):
the gap between Georgia and Florida. One of those lines
is three touchdowns. One of those lines is one touchdown.
And so I mean that's the big disruptor piece. That's
the thing I think that stands out about the SEC
right now when you get past the top layer of
either of those conferences is if I'm going and you
know how deep I have to go in the SEC
and the standings to get to Florida, I'm probably getting

(50:05):
towards like Michigan State, Rutgers, whatnot. In the Big Ten.
There just is no DJ lagway there. There is no
athletic profile there. It's the same way with watching Bama
play South Carolina last week. South Carolina not a good team.
South Carolina may have had the three best athletes on
the field because you got Harbor out there, you got
Dylan Stewart out there, you got Lenora Sellers. Ole Miss
has got to deal with that team this weekend. This

(50:26):
would this would greatly surprise me. It would mildly shock me.
It would not totally. That's a good one, It would
not totally shock me.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
What about two? What about two? Where would two be
on the shocks? Who would be.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Like in like a seven point seventy five or and eight,
I would be more surprised. It's so this weekend. I
don't even need the whole game, Like, just show me
how they play in the first half this weekend. If
you were to guarantee me they're still checked in, just guarantee.
I don't need anything else. I don't need to guarantee
of health or anything. Just tell me they're checked in,
and I'm going to get them in November. Whatever their

(51:01):
fastball is, Yeah, I could see that I got one
for you. So right now, compared to those two conferences
we just mentioned, the ACC has been pretty inferior as
a league this year. I think most people would agree.
What would you say if I told you they get

(51:22):
three teams in the playoff.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I don't think that I would be completely shocked, because
I already feel like, right now, Georgia Tech has a
great chance of getting in. Miami has a great chance
to get in. I'm gonna have to cheat a little
bit here, and just kind of look, I mean, the
third team that's gonna sneak in If you are projecting
right now, are you going Louisville will be the team
that sneaks in. It is next in line.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Wow, just forget about it for you. Virginia just doesn't
exist to you.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Actually, I think Virginia has a very difficult game this weekend,
to be honest with you, after playing maybe four close
games in a row at North Carolina, then now they
got to go to Cal for an earlier kick. I
don't like them in that game at all. Actually think
Cal wins that game with good quarterback play and then
taking advantage of a team that had to travel. You're

(52:14):
looking at at Duke a little bit later in the year,
massive rivalry game, which the trinket that they play for.
I do not know Virginia and Virginia Tech at the
end of the season, but we know you don't just
walk into that game and feel like you're gonna get
a win, ever, even when the coach has been fired.
So I think Virginia is a little bit one dimensional.
I don't I don't like their makeup as much as

(52:35):
I do. Even Louisville's honestly, cause I think I think
Louisville has more guys that can take over game up
front on defense. So I would tell you that I
was surprised, but not totally surprised. Here's the problem with
conversations like this, whether we're talking, does the Big ten
exten past where everybody thinks they are? Is the SEC
going to be less than what everybody thinks they are?
Does the acc go forward one? It's so dependent on

(52:57):
those other leagues and who steps up and who falls off,
We're gonna get upset, Josh, Like, this is the perfect weekend.
You and I talked about this earlier today. No one's
making a big deal out of a lot of games
this weekend. Nobody's saying, oh, I can't wait to watch
that one. Better pay attention to this one, watch out
for that game. This is when it all goes to
hell in a hand basket. Normally, like the last three

(53:17):
or four years, we've had this weekend where everybody was
about to sleepwalk through it and all of a sudden,
mayhem just complete playing nose dives into the field and
we don't know what's going on. So this is gonna
be one of those weekends I think we're gonna get
a couple we're not expecting, and it's only gonna get
worse through the regular portion of the season because we're
gonna have more injuries and more guys are gonna be
dinged up, and we don't have near the depth to

(53:39):
help these teams get through the last month of the
season that we expect them to.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
All due respect to the Commonwealth Cup, a game in
which you're right, you can't just walk in and expect
to win. You mentioned it depends.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
This isn't an actual cup that they play for. I
haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
The Chalice and actual chalice. Actually, yes it is, but
it doesn't matter here. It matters here Now I say
that there is a statue of a pig behind me.
So some of these trophies obviously do exist. Others exist
in your heart and your memories. The necklace and Titanic,
or Jack himself, it exists now only in our memory.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
What was about to say, say seven on the surprise scale, Yes.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
That's a seven three in is only a seven.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
It's at least an eight. It's at least an eight.
But back to your.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Point, depended on so many other teams, though it could
easily happen.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Yes it is, Yes it is. But if I were
sitting in the Big ten's chair right now, or I
was sitting in the SEC's chair, you at least have
to admit, as crazy as it is right now, first
week of November, our fate depends on them too. Like,
here's what I'm trying to imagine. We all know that
a Virginia at eleven and one is not a comparable team.

(54:51):
At least I think we know quality of team would
not measure up. They would be. We would have to
go with the whole hypothetical point spread to prove our
point that be double digit dogs against anyone. Don't even
want to wade into those waters yet. What I'm asking
is if the committee really does, just have it, stare
them in the face. So here would be the scenario
for anyone listening at home. Virginia's a one lost team

(55:12):
right now. Somehow they're undefeated in conference play even though
they're losses to a team in their conference. Don't ask
me to make sense of it. It just just what
it is. Virginia wins out, they go to Charlotte, they
win the ACC title game. They're in Georgia Tech wins out,
they go to Charlotte and lose, Georgia Tech at that
point would be undefeated, way inside the top ten going

(55:32):
into their conference championship game. They will have beaten Georgia
in route to Charlotte in a non conference game, so
Georgia Tech would be in. Like, I don't know how
the committee looks at eager of them and says they're out.
Now here's where it gets interesting, Bradley, if you got
Louisville's schedule for me, and I don't know he does, Boom,
look at this Louisville, if they just went out, they

(55:53):
would have wins over Miami already. They'd have a win
against Clemson coming up at SMU. Now they wouldn't go
to Charlotte. Are they gonna tell eleven and one Louisville
they're not in. I don't think they would. So Louisville
would be in. And we've gotten three deep there and
we have not mentioned Miami, and believe it or not,
no one in the ACC actually plays each other. So

(56:15):
Miami could also win out and they could be eleven
and one. This is a nightmare for the SEC. It's
a nightmare for Notre Dame because Notre Dame would fall
off in the head to head comparison against Miami because
Miami would get the heads upslot against them, plus that
have one fewer losses. So as much as yeah, the
ACC's fate rests on what happens in these other conferences.

(56:35):
Here's what I'm asking you, and this is the scenario.
Let's say, no matter what happens in these other conferences,
I've got a one loss conference champ Virginia. I've got
a one loss conference champ runner up in Georgia Tech.
I got an eleven and one Louisville with quality wins.
I got an eleven in one Miami with quality wins.
Regardless of what happened elsewhere. Do they have the stones

(56:58):
on that committee to look at one or more of
those teams with those resumes and say, sorry, you're not
good enough, we don't have room for you.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Here are you now asking me about four getting in, which,
by the way, I just want to let me rewind
here by showing the smoothly paved four lane interstates that
those teams have the rest of the way, I feel
like you just made my argument that this is not
an eight or a nine on the surprise scale that
this could more easily happen than a lot of people believe.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
You don't even see the black eyes. You don't even
see that on the road because you've been used to
hot weather. You've been complaining about eighty degrees at kickoff.
You can't see the black eyes. You live in Birmingham,
You are privileged. You don't understand how this stuff works.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
In November, I'm not going to say, regardless of what
happened in those leagues, that four would get in. At
that point, the difficulty comes. And this is where, similar
to Florida State a couple of years ago, we are
going to have full rage from one fan base, be
it Louisville or Miami, who would not get in if
both of those teams were there, specifically if the team

(58:01):
with the head to head win did not get in.
But you tell me, at that point, some of this
still depending on what happens. Who has the better resume,
Miami or Louisville. Right then, you gotta win over Notre Dame,
you gotta win over South Florida. You beat Florida, who's
not a great football team, but it's an SEC win.
You're gonna get credit for that. This may come down

(58:22):
to if that were to happen and one of those
two needed to be picked, because I'm with you Virginia obviously,
in Georgia Tech runs the regular season, I don't care
what happens after that. They're in. You are in one
hundred percent with that win against Georgia in the last
game of the season done over. So then we pick
between these two if that scenario plays out, I wonder
who they would look at as having the stronger finish

(58:44):
because it's a little bit of a coin toss here
when you look at these two schedules down the way,
I actually might lean Miami just a little bit more.
With the game at SMU at Virginia Tech. By the way,
that game that pit terrifies me. If I'm a Hurricane
fan right now, that late in the season, I do
not like that with the defensive one that's active and
a quality quarterback. But I don't know who's going to

(59:05):
gain more points with the committee on the way out here.
Now you get an SEC opponent if you're Louisville. It's
not a good Kentucky team, but you at least get
that to sort of hang your hat on at v
Tech not great, Calwyn would be nice. Clemson's still gonna
make people happy. People in that committee are still going
to say, oh, but they beat Debo and then you're
at SMU. So I don't know if you could really

(59:26):
go one way or the other as to who has
the stronger finish, But maybe it's who wins more points
with this committee for the next month, or then does
it just come down to the head to head and
they say, you know what, we'll make this real easy.
That team beat that team therein.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I don't think there's any path where if both of
them have one loss, Miami's resume can be definitively better
than Louisville's at this point to where the head to
head doesn't get drawn in, like that's the whole rule,
right When McIlroy and those guys sit around the desk
and they all go over the bylaws that are guarded
with lock and key, they say, the only time head
to head doesn't matter is if someone's unequivocally better and

(01:00:00):
someone else and if they're not, then the head to
head comes in. And by the way, the head to
head was on Miami's home field, so coming off a
buy not that that matters, but there's no excuse, like
if it comes down to comparable Miami Louisville, Louisville's got
to get the nod. I don't know how they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Yet they don't we riot and I think rightfully so,
I mean it's we beat you. Yeah, like you can
you can make the argument of if this team's unequivocally better, Well,
hold on a second check score r H. We're done here. Really,
there's no more debate. Like I saw the scoreboard, we
have photographic and actually video evidence of it that we

(01:00:37):
beat you. Nothing else should be discussed at this point.
We're good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
You have an opportunity right now to just enrage the
entire not the entire state of Texas Longhorn Nation because
you got a little scenario. It's not that you're predicting it.
And let's let's make sure we caveat this. This certainly
is not your prediction. However, this is a crazy world
and whence we live it is November, longest month of
the college football year. What do you think I think

(01:01:00):
could happen to Texas?

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Spoiler alert, I do think we need to triple asterisk
these with We're not predicting these similar to the Florida
discussion earlier. We don't saying we think that's going to happen,
but if it did, how much would it shock you? Josh?
If Texas won one more game the rest of the season,

(01:01:23):
you didn't have.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
To throw it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
But Vandy loss, all right, and Bandy at home, and
at the end of the year loss at Georgia after Vandy, oh, buddy,
and then Arkansas would be your other game, which I
would be giving you the win for.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
I think the wrong team's favored this weekend. I'm not
afraid to say that I think Vanderbilt is a better
football team in my mind at Georgia. I think we
not only know that mentally and emotionally how Georgia has
handled that football team, but physically what's happened. And this
is not a more physical Texas football team that it
was a year ago, which Georgia not more physical than

(01:02:03):
they were a year ago either, But I would give
Georgia the advantage in that game. Arkansas is going to
have meaning for a lot of different reasons for a
lot of different people. But I don't see a lot
of stops in Arkansas's future in that game, and then
Texas A and M looks like one of the best
three best two football teams in America right now. I
think that the matchup stylistically between those two, You've find
very little ways to convince yourself that Texas was going

(01:02:25):
to win that football game. So on the meter, oh shock,
where would you have it fall if I told you
Texas was going to win one more game this season.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
When you floated this to me earlier today, I thought
it was going to be a nine or higher. In
my head, I think it's like a eight. I mean,
if they lose this weekend, snowballs kicked down the hill.
So if they lose, in you erroneously, but you claim
the wrong teams favored this weekend. But if you're right,
on the off chance that you're right, then it becomes

(01:02:55):
a two out of three thing. And Georgia, I cannot
count on Texas cycle logically, I don't even need to
know about the matchup just from the neck up. I
can't count on them to go in there and do that.
Plus you are of the opinion, and I agree with you.
Georgia could be one of those get hot at the
right time type candidate teams. Here in November. Yep Son,
I'm gonna ride with you there A and m. You

(01:03:16):
saw what they just did. You saw what they did
to LSU and their home building. I don't care that
they go into Daryl Royal Field. I don't care about that.
So yeah, that Arkansas game there, I think you may
be on to something here. And I don't like it
because I picked Texas to win this weekend. I don't
love this, but I do think this actually doesn't shock me.

(01:03:36):
And then there's all kind of uncomfortable conversation. Basically, we
just copy and paste the Ryan Day conversation last year
to Sark, only Sark doesn't get to go and get
a redo in the playoff because they wouldn't be anywhere
near the playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
No, in those I think those conversations would be erroneous, honestly,
because you're just not going to be an elite team
at the top of college football every year. With how
this sport is situated right now, it's it's not possible
to go do that each and every year. Sarks recruited
at a high level, He's had people come in play
at a high level. He's had teams in the postseason.

(01:04:08):
But if certain things didn't work out this year. I
don't think you begin those conversations not me at least,
I'm not going to I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
Gonna give you one more here as we head out
of here, the Big Ten only getting two teams in
the playoff one to ten shot meter.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
I'm gonna give you an eight only because it's the
Big Ten. And I think we just assume, and you
and I have had this discussion multiple times about our
old school college football brains and how it's really taken
a long time for some of that to change and
morph and be different. We all look at the Big
Ten in the SEC is just running college football, and

(01:04:49):
there are multiple meanings to that. Even Indiana's in. I
feel like Ohio State's in. I don't know what would
have to happen exactly to Oregon to not it in.
I don't think that there's really another team that we
would look at there and say, okay, I realistically see
a path for you to probably find your way in
with what lies ahead and with what kind of a

(01:05:10):
football team they've looked like this season. But to see
those three in, I would say absolutely two would just
be I don't think that I could. I would be
it'd be a ten out of ten on the shock
meter if only two got in. And if you're telling
me three are going to get in, I would say likely.
But I don't know if I could sit here and

(01:05:31):
look at this and say that there's a lot of
other teams that I have a lot of confidence in,
but we just expect the SEC Big ten are going
to What was the majority of our offseason conversation that
these conferences wanted what four automatic bids every year? Yep,
five automatic bids every year. So that's where I think
a lot of our brains are is just that the
other leagues aren't even close. Their teams can't keep up.

(01:05:52):
They're not going to be able to keep up with
these two leagues. Therefore, by default, the Big ten SEC
are gonna have three in and then just take your
picks of the Maybe he's with the five or six
other teams that we think should get in but probably
won't because somebody goes undefeated in a lesser conference.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Yeah, I'll float you that. So firstly, I mean, I
know a lot of you need tickets this weekend. A
lot of you are going to games this weekend. Just
make sure if you're paying the money already. Just make
sure you save a little bit. I mean, we're fans
of money here, don't don't love it, but like to
have more of it. Seat Geek can help you out.
If you're going to buy the tickets off the secondary market.
If you're not already a season ticket holder, go there,
purchase your tickets, do what you would normally do. Just

(01:06:26):
make sure that little promo code box there at the
end paid ten pat e one zero. That's going to
get you ten percent off any order two hundred bucks
or less, and just twenty dollars off any order two
hundred bucks or more. Now, if you're going to check
out Kent State, you may not have to spend two
hundred can't spend rolling there are adopted team. If you're
going to the Texas Vandy game. Look, man, Texas fans,

(01:06:46):
I'm told every one of you are wealthy beyond measure.
But on the off chance that you're not, you're looking
to save some money. Seat Geek paid ten at checkout,
So he's dumped out on us. Anyway, what I was
talking about with that, as we wrap up here, cublic
bailed on us. As I was talking about. Here's the
big ten thing. I was thinking to myself, Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon.

(01:07:10):
That's just how I always hear that big ten echo
in my head. That's what rattles around. Ohio State's gonna
make this playoff. I got virtually no doubt about that.
I cannot see Indiana dropping off. I suppose it could happen,
but you'd be really hard pressed to convince me that
the Signetti's throwing one oh four on the black right now.
I really have trouble envisioning them lose their fastball just

(01:07:33):
late in the year could happen. It's what Novembers four.
The Oregon example is the one I still believe in Oregon.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
But if there is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
One out there that's a pretend contender, it would be Oregon.
And they got to go to Minnesota still, or they
got to go to Iowa still, and I was sitting there.
They're coming off a by like I always got a
couple of losses that are pretty close. We got them
ranked JP Pole has them top twenty five. They've also
got usc second last week, and it's in autsin. But
so was the Indiana game, and they got to go

(01:08:03):
to Washington. I just kind of skipped over Minnesota there
like legitimately, they are four losable games left. Every game
Oregon plays is losable. They could also buzz saw all
four of them, at which point this is a moot point.
But I'm just saying, if Oregon doesn't make it in,
then he just missed all of my point. But trust me,
I just made great points there, Ohio State. I'm gonna

(01:08:24):
count them in Indiana. I got a hard time seeing
them miss out. But sir, we just looked at the
Oregon schedule and we know they got they gotta go
to Iowa next weekend. They got Minnesota at home, they
got u USC at home. Then they go to Washington
and you know it's right now, it's a slam dunk
three teams for me in the Big Ten, but Oregon's
the one where after that Indiana result in autsin. I

(01:08:47):
think it's kind of got a lot of people with
a yellow caution light around Oregon's team right now. Now.
I look at it the opposite. I say, man, they
went wire to wire last year and they didn't get
They didn't really taste that blood until it was too
late in the playoff. Maybe tasting early in the season
yields dividends for them, but that still involves them executing
and winning the games. But my point is they if

(01:09:08):
they stumble a couple more times and they got four
losable games left, you're looking at Ohio State, You're looking
at Indiana, and you're looking at a great, big question
mark past that in the Big Ten right now, because
I think there's such separational like there's such fall off
after those top three teams.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
I think you probably changed my believability rate with this
when you went through that endo that schedule, And even
though you may think the chances of that happening, be
it one or two more losses for Oregon are a
little bit less than mine. I've gotten a little bit
more on board with you, and more so situationally, having
those teams back to back to back. Having to go
to Iowa is one at this time of the year

(01:09:45):
that I don't like for Oregon really at all. I
do think USC offensively can keep up with Oregon, and
I think at Washington we all know one of the
most difficult places to play in all of college football.
It's two programs that are familiar with one another, and
I have confidence Jed Fish putting a game plan together
for a big game like that, I'll give him some advantage.
It's not saying he has all of them against Dan

(01:10:07):
Lanning and his staff. But that's a treacherous run the
rest of the way through, specifically, Josh, because not a
lot of people nationally, I think are gonna make a
ton of noise about those games individually. So how many
guys are gonna be put on warning themselves by reading
what people are saying. People picking them to lose those games,
People saying that those are gonna be more difficult games
than maybe other folks imagine. They might not have to

(01:10:28):
hear a lot of that, deal with a lot of that.
So you take a little extra confidence and then you should.
But that's a tough road the rest of the way through.
I think they manage it. I think they get through
it just because, like you said, they understand now mistakes
that were made. Also think just the talent level can
take over in a couple of those games, as we've
stated with other games like South Carolina and Alabama, maybe
this Texas game against Vanderbilt, Oregon's gonna have takeover players

(01:10:51):
that can go dominate. Certain facets of those games are
gonna play. But Stylistically, they're gonna be very careful with
I think not getting to a shootout with USC not
letting I always slow that game down too much to
where it limits their possessions. Where two punts in a
turnover all of a sudden put you on red alert
late third quarter that you're gonna have to go get
two scores to win that game. So I think styles

(01:11:14):
make fights, and stylistically, those are games that organ has
to be really careful with.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
The rest of the way through, Yep, all right, I'm
three fourths of the way convinced. You only hop back
on the feed the plug Cube show, but it's worthy
of being plugged.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
So I would encourage people.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
I see complaints all the time not enough quality college
football shows out there. We'll stop looking in the same
place as you always look and listen to the next
forty five seconds, because that's what I'm giving you right now,
forty five seconds, and then we both need to go
to Plug Cube show.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Go well, we talk all the SEC games, we watch
the film, and we take you through what we saw.
It's just that simple. I don't feel like you get
that a lot of other places, and the details in
which things take place like take, for example, Pull Protection
from Tennessee, which we were made aware by Joey Halseley
was their entire offseason project and told us about all
the effort and everything that went into it. And then

(01:12:03):
what do you know, the first four touchdowns of the
game against Kentucky came on pull protection. I'll explain to
you why that's important, what our conversations were like, and
even show you a play of how it happened. So
if you're not into that, go somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
But if you know ball or you long to know
ball cube, show the way to go, appreciate it as all.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
I came back because I like you, So I didn't
just come back for that. I don't. We're not gonna grow.
It's okay. We're just gonna be attle, easy show in
the corner. We're the Dabbo of college football podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
You got a home game this weekend, though, you get
to ride in a car to your game, so that's
a blessing that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Is thankfully not with you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
There. You go, all right, cool Cubley, he's out, and
after I tell you one more thing, we'll be out.
Friday Night Lines the plan is a classic Friday Night
Lines and that is well after dark. I don't have softball.
I don't want to talk about how the season ended.
I don't have softball tomorrow night. But you know, we
got a little dinner we got to go to. We're
not going to Dallas until Saturday for the SMU Miami game,

(01:13:00):
so we'll be we'll be on the home front. We'll
be in Nashville, probably my living room if I had
to guess. So make sure you're following on the socials
at Josh pet CFB. I'll let you know what time
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