Week 12 Upset Alerts + CFP Chaos Scenarios & Cole Cubelic Joins

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
I think we know all need to just be careful
and take one step back. There's that moment when you've
learned to swim, and therefore you can walk into the
deep end where your feet no longer touch the bottom
of the pool anymore, and you're like, oh, I'm swimming.
That's where we are right now. We've got to make
sure we can swim. So in college football terms and
practical worldview terms, that means you better know what you're

(00:36):
talking about before you run that mouth too much to
your friends. And I'm talking to me just as much
as I'm talking to you, guys. Let me give you
an example. Well, first, let me tell you it's Thursday,
November thirteenth, the Earl or twenty twenty five. Let me
tell you're jam Pack. Let me tell you what. Hi
A top an anxious downtown Nashville, Tennessee. I just chugged
an entire mug of coffee right before we came on air.

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So I'm good, I'm great, I'm wonderful. Ignore me scratching
my neck. But the warning I'm trying to give is,
for example, I was walking through the office today and
I look up on the screen and I see a
lower third, and there is a network talking about whether
the SEC should get half a dozen teams into the playoff,
And I thought to myself self, are you partially responsible

(01:20):
for this kind of rhetoric?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
So we're going to do our best to fire hose it.
We're gonna put out the fire. We didn't start the fire.
We're gonna put out the fire tonight. Because I think
I've identified some disaster scenarios for the SEC. Those are
always popular, Jesse, right, those always do good traffic, SEC
and poison. That's our thumbnail.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
So we're going to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Of course it's Thursday. We're gonna do upset alerts. We're
gonna have Cole Kublick on a little bit later. We're
going to talk about the aforementioned chaos scenarios. That's just one.
I've got more, got some stuff on LSU. We're gonna
open the mailbag. It could become a constant. On Thursday.
We're gonna open the mailbag. First time. I think we've
done it all. So, yeah, we got a lot to discuss.

(02:01):
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make sure you have. I think we're about to start
the upset Alert segment, but I also think we're going

(03:09):
to go late on Friday night lines tomorrow night, so
our normal time, I'll make sure you know tomorrow, make
sure you're following on Twitter and Instagram at Josh PATCFB.
So I would I'd probably say like either halftime of
the late games or after the early games are over.
It'll be something like that. But in the meantime, let's
talk about games. Upset Alerts Week twelve edition. We like

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to on Thursdays around here go over some games presented
by flex Power, generated by flex power best generators in
the business myflexpower dot com. If you're interested, and we
like to circle some games that you know, maybe we
haven't picked the upset, but we're concerned. Maybe on a
scale of one to ten, we're concerned. How concerned would

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we be? For example, Michigan's playing Northwestern at Wrigley Field.
I've never been to Wrigleyfield. I don't know how it
plays for a football game. Just know Michigan's favored by
eleven and a half in this game. And I'm gonna
put my upset alert concern at about a six because
I've been following Michigan pretty closely and we have made

(04:10):
some money this year betting Michigan. Like in the Purdue game,
for example, they were favored by way too many points.
They won, and so they're favored by eleven and a
half here. Could they lose outright?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Sure they could.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
No Justice Haynes eleven am kickoff. Northwestern run defense kind
of leaky, but it's kind of a condensed game as well.
So if you come out of the bye week and
you're starting to off a little slow like we saw
Alabama do last week, yeah, it could be that kind
of game. Good defense is here, though, Like Northwestern not

(04:42):
a bad team, not a bad team this year. They've
pushed some folks, they beat some folks. It's just the
kind of game where you find out how much your
team's been paying attention to the noise. The noise being
some people are starting to wake up to the idea
that Michigan is still in the running for a playoff spot.
Of course they are. They're still in the running for
the Big Ten championship. But now in November is when

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you start to see the horizon and you can see
that Ohio State logo on the horizon, and everyone starts
assuming you'll just still be a ten and two team
when you get there. Make sure you're still a two
loss team when you get there. That is well within
your control. I'm putting a six on this because I
think Northwestern can make games ugly and Michigan should, but
will they That's kind of my vibe on this one.

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Next up, South Carolina goes to Texas A and M
this Saturday. You know what South Carolina's record is right now,
They're sitting there at three and six. They got three
games left. By our math, they gotta win them all
if they want to make a bowl game. I've got
a piece of paper in front of me. You hear that.
That's the sound of nothing. Nothing on this piece of

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paper indicates that South Carolina is getting ready to spring
an upset. We just watched A and M come out
of their bye. They went on the road last week.
They won in pretty convincing fashion. Look, Lenora Sellers could
have a Superman game here and A and M still win,
just kind of win closer, you know, maybe not cover,
but still win. A and M's ground game against the

(06:09):
number eighty two run defense in the country. I tried, guys,
I have a very hard time. I'm gonna put a
two on it, just cause South Carolina has good athletes
on the field. Technically, anything can happen. This would be tough.
There would have to be a lot of help given
to South Carolina by Texas A and M for this
to happen.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Who knows.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Maybe it's a crazy minus four turnover game and it
goes down to the final minutes. But there's a lot
that has to go right. So I'm gonna put a
two on it and we'll just monitor it. Next up,
this one, I've got a little more concerned about. It's
NC State versus Miami. Now Miami's a fifteen and a
half point favorite. Miami's got totally new life. You thought
maybe when they were headed home from Dallas they just

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lost their second game to SMU, they may be out
of the playoff picture. Then the rankings come out and
they were eighteenth, and you're like, wow, they don't really
have any big time opponents left either. How are they
gonna climb all the way up? Well, they climbed three
spots last week, and we did the little exercise on
Tuesday where we showed you everyone who's ahead of Miami
and the hurdles they still have to clear. There's no

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doubt that some of the shrubbery will get cleared ahead
of Miami as long as they stay on the path
of ten and two. As long as they can do that,
then there will be a path for them. Well, this
is the first of their three remaining hurdles. It's their
last home game. They go on the road to Virginia
Tech next week. They go to at pitt the week
after that. So this profile similar to the SMU game

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I think from Miami. NC State's got the second worst
pass defense in the country. SMU's got the worst. So
remember we looked at that game and we said, Carson Beck,
it's gonna be his game against SMU. Because the plays
are there to be made in the secondary, you gotta
make them. Well, they didn't make enough of them, and
they ended up with a costly turnover down to the

(07:57):
goal line. So again, you should be able to throw
the ball effectively.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Here.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
NC State's got a top twenty five passing offense. Can
they threaten Miami's secondary. It's not gonna be a situation
where you get up, you know, like seventeen to six
and just kind of wait it out. NC State can
score like they can't. They possess the capability to do that.
So you need offensive consistency, you need rhythm, you need
good effectiveness in your passing game. Will you get that

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Their run defense at NC State has been decent, So
Miami probably needs to throw the ball to win this
game for that reason, because of some of the inconsistency
that's been there. I'm gonna put a five on this.
I have already seen Miami lose what a couple of
games as a double digit favorite this year, so that
it just cause that's a fifteen and a half there,

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It doesn't make me worry about this game any less
than I otherwise would have. I'm gonna put a five
on it now. If they win forty two to three,
then I start buying into the hype again. Florida at
ole miss got some buddies going to this game. They
circled it early in the year, in the summer even,
and they said, that's the one we've never been to

(09:06):
the grove, that's the one that one's really gonna pop off.
Florida Napier got lagway back man, one of the most
experienced teams, really talented. Nope. As it turns out, Nope.
Is Florida motivated or are they dead? Because we saw
him motivated against Georgia and we saw him dead against Kentucky.
I leaned towards the latter. I think it was a

(09:28):
tap out moment. Last week they were a no show.
It's the second leg of back to back road games.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Here.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Ole Miss has got everything in the world to play for. Also,
Ole Miss has got a revenge spot on their hands here.
They know if they win, they're in. It's not officially
labeled that. Nobody from the committee hit us up and
told us that, but Ole Miss. If they win this game,
they've got Mississippi State left.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
The worst they could be is ten and two. If
they win this game, and I think they're going to
I'm gonna put a three on it because of the
athletic profile that Florida has. But they're banged up. They
got guys that are probably out for the rest of
the year. I just would have a hard time seeing
Old Miss overlook this, and they're just they're the better team.

(10:15):
And Lane Kiffin, I don't know which of these teams
he's gonna be the head coach for next year, but
I know he's the head coach at Old Miss right
now and that will matter. So give me a three
on the upset alert concern meter. Utah at Baylor told
you Utah has got a sneaky, tough road. The rest
of the way. Baylor, Kansas State, and Kansas are not

(10:35):
ranked in the top twenty five, but we've got them
power rated all in the top thirty five. So not
elite opponents, but not bad opponents. Utah's trying to get
one of those A large spots. They got an elite
pass defense, and that's gonna be how Baylor tries to
beat them. Sawyer Robinson, that Baylor passing attack, that's how

(10:55):
they have to win. They don't run the ball great,
and that, ironically is how you would challenge Utah. You
would challenge them that way, but you can't if you
can't run the ball. It's like the total inverse of
how we describe the Alabama Oklahoma game, where that is
strength on weakness. Well, we got weakness on weakness here.
So I don't know that Baylor can fully take advantage

(11:16):
of what's there maybe to be taken advantage of. And
Baylor cannot stop the run. I don't think effectively enough
against Utah, and I think Utah can run it all night.
I'll put a five on it. The model actually loves Baylor.
I don't. I don't see it. I think Utah understands. Maybe,
just maybe that door is still cracked open. Now. I've

(11:39):
got empower rated as the best team in the Big
Twelve right now. Controversial, I know, but either way, if
you agree with that or not, they're still a good team.
So I'm gonna put a five on it, and then
the last one we'll stay in that conference. Nobody is
talking about this. Nobody is talking about BYU. Oh they're
talking about them, They're just not talking about who they
play this week. TCU is at Brigham Young. This week

(12:03):
at Brigham Young, with home field advantage factored in, BYU
is a three and a half point favorite. That's basically
implying their equal on the neutral field TCU. Two of
TCU's three losses are by a field goal, very close losses.
They just lost to Iowa State. I believe last week
They've got a top ten passing offense TCU decent run defense.

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It may be the same script as last week. You
get a lead on Brigham Young, force them to try
and throw the ball to catch up. TCU's got one
hundred and fourth ranked pass defense in the country. So
if Brigham Young can throw the ball. They can win
this game and win it convincingly. Can they do it?
Is the question? Can they do it? I think it's
a very dangerous game. So I'm gonna put an eight

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and a half on this, I mean implied neutral field
equal team. So yes, I'm gonna put an eight and
a half on it. And everybody's looking at Brigham Young like,
oh man, And could they get back to Dallas, could
they get back to the Big twelve championship game? Do
they gotta win this week? And then they got Cincinnati
coming up. I believe they gotta win this week, So
I'm gonna put an eight and a half on that one.

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can get it there. All right, let's move on. Do

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you want chaos? Do you want playoff chaos? Well, there
are several ways this could happen. Just when that playoff
picture starts to look nice and neat and tidy, I
come to.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
You with this.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Everyone out there seems to be talking about how many
teams the SEC can get in the playoff. We did
it last week, and I said, hey, there's a chance
there are as many as seven SEC teams that finish
the season with two or fewer losses. It's not that
hard to picture. Oklahoma goes undefeated the rest of the way,
Texas goes undefeated, Vandy wins out. You probably have A

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and M Bama, Georgia, Olmess, Texas, ou Vandy. That's seven
SEC teams that finished with two losses or fewer. Everyone's
having fun with that. But no what I'd like to
do while everyone else is zigging, I'd like to zag
here for just a second. What about the SEC contender
collapse conundrum? Tough, but we powered through.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
It there.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Because no one's talking about that, it seems you know,
Alabama plays Oklahoma this week.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
They could lose the game.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Do you know the position that would put Alabama in
That would make them nine and two after they play
Eastern Illinois next week, going to Auburn with their playoff
lives on the line, needing to win the Iron Bowl.
I don't need to tell Obama fans what it's like
to have anything of consequence on the line going to
Jerdenhair Stadium. No one's mind is even going there. Everyone's

(15:41):
got Bama penciled in to Atlanta first round by maybe
or maybe they don't make the playoff. That's in the cards.
Georgia plays Texas day after tomorrow. They could lose the game.
They could play Georgia Tech and lose lost team out
not in the playoff. It's right there, Like that game

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against Georgia Tech. I know it says at Georgia Tech,
it's really in Mercedes Benz Stadium because sadly, Georgia Tech
took a paycheck in exchange for moving the game. I'm
not gonna fault anyone. I just hate that it exists.
But those are both losable games. Georgia could be out.
They could be done just like that. What about Texas.
It's a lot easier to see Texas being out. They're

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a six and a half point dog against Georgia Saturday.
They also play Arkansas, they play Texas A and M.
It's still a really tough road for Texas. Texas could
easily be out. Oh, you could lose to Bama this weekend,
or lose to Missouri or lose to LSU. They could
easily be out. Vanderbilt plays Kentucky and then goes to Tennessee.
One more loss there, they're done. My point there is

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it's tough for me to envision A and M not
making the playoff. It's tough for me to envision Ole
miss not making the playoff. But outside of that, there's
easily path where Bama falls out or Georgia falls out,
or Texas falls out, or Oklahoma falls out, or Vandy
falls out, or a combination of all of them fall out. Yeah,
that can happen. And don't let the aggregation sites tell

(17:12):
you it can't. Don't let press conferences.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Tell you it can't.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
It It most certainly can. Wouldn't be great for business
in some corners of this country, but it certainly could. Now,
on a related note, as we look to the SEC's
neighbors to the north, the Big Ten, what about what
we are calling the Big ten flood conundrum, not the
Great flood, just normal garden variety figurative flood. Here, follow

(17:39):
me on this. I know some of you are visual learners.
I am too, especially if you're on podcasts. I'm gonna
walk you through it. It's actually not that complicated, all right,
Right now, what is everyone thinking about the Big Ten?
They're thinking, Ohio State's in, Indiana's in Oregon gonna be in.
So they'll have three teams, you know, maybe maybe they
get a fourth team. That's kind of where the general

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national consensus is. I've thought, all right, well, let's just
tinker with it a little bit. Immunity. Let's just move
some things around. Let's say USC wins out. What does
that include, Well, that includes them beaten Iowa, it includes
them going to Oregon and winning next week, and it
includes them beating UCLA. USC finishes ten and two. They

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may even have found their way into the Big Ten
Championship game, but at worst they're at ten and two,
almost certain to be an at large playoff team. What
if Michigan wins out, that means they beat Northwestern, they
beat Maryland, and they beat Ohio State at the end
of the year. And before you say it's improbable, I've

(18:46):
said it the last four years and been wrong, So
I'm gonna wait. I'm not gonna be that guy again.
Michigan would be ten and two. Now here's what you
really need to remember. Michigan's got one conference loss, So
does that point Ohio State? If Ohio State loses to Michigan,
they've both got one conference loss. Michigan's got the tiebreaker.
If Indiana's in Indianapolis awaiting their opponent, Michigan would get

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the nod over Ohio State. The only question at that
point would be how does the USC factor into that?
And I don't even know the Big Ten tie breaker scenario.
But at the very worst, there's a ten and two
Michigan sitting there. They're going to the playoff if they
beat Ohio State. They've got the best win in the
country at the very end of the year. Ten and
two Michigan's going to the playoff if Oregon just loses

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to USC, but otherwise they went out Oregon's ten and two.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's it. That's all I have to say.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Okay, so I just need a couple of things to
happen that are well within the realm of possibility, and
the Big Ten with all of a sudden, have five
playoff caliber teams. Ohio State would be there, Indiana would
be there, Michigan, Oregon, USC, They're all there. And what
if the perfect combination happens. What if after all the

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talk over the past month of how many teams the
SEC could get in half dozen or more maybe, and
after all the talk of hey, could it just be
Ohio State in Indiana and that's it? What if the
Big Ten has more playoff teams in the SEC? Woooo?
And then we haven't even talked about the ACC doomsday scenario. Well,
actually we did. We talked about it Tuesday night. The
ACC doomsday scenario is just where the ACC does not

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get a playoff team. In what would happen in the
ACC doomsday scenario, I'll lay it out for you again
if you missed the Tuesday show, But what would happen
is two G five teams would make the playoff. And
since we're still so early in the playoff, what you've
really seen is you've seen one version of the twelve
team playoff. We've seen one year of it, and then

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otherwise you've just seen projections and hypotheticals sketched on napkins
and pizza boxes. You haven't really seen the real thing
play out but once so, we really don't know what
can and can't happen. For instance, there is a crowd
out there that tells themselves G five Conference not G
five Power four Conference champs will always have a way
into the playoff. Most of America actually thinks Power four

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conference champs are guaranteed a playoff spot. They don't even
know the rules. That is not the rule, that is
not the way it's written at all. That's not the
structure of the playoff. The structure is this, Remember this,
it's five and seven seven at large spots five spots reserved.
Follow me here for the highest ranked conference champions. It

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didn't say Power four. It's just always been assumed that
if you're taking five conference champs, easily, the Power four
conference champs will be among the five highest ranked. They're
even giving you wiggle room there, like you don't even
need to be top four. A G five conference champ
could even be ahead of you. But surely two G

(21:54):
five conference champs would never be ahead of a Power
four conference champ. Well, I thought that too, enter Duke.
Duke right now has four losses. They're five and four,
but they only have one loss in conference play. Now,
it's still a little bit of a long shot, but Duke,

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if they beat Virginia and North Carolina and Wake Forest
will go to Charlotte to play for the conference title.
That probably played Georgia Tech. We'll see about that. And
regardless of who they play, that'd be in Charlotte. If
they win the game, they would be a nine to
four conference champion, a four loss team. And at that point,
here's what we have to ask ourselves. I'm almost certain

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the American conference champ will be ranked higher than Duke.
That may be Tulane, it may be South Florida. Either
one of them would be ranked higher than Duke. Already,
we know that South Florida's ranked twenty fifth in the
committee poll, so we know where they're ranked. So the
conference champ there is going to be in the twenty
to twenty five range they'd be in. Here's what we

(23:01):
don't know. If James Madison runs the table. I think
they play like Coastal Carolina there it is they play
app State, they play Washington State, and they play at
Coastal Carolina. If they run the table, the question is,
in this scenario, are they ranked higher than Duke. If
they are, the ACC's conference champ is getting left out

(23:22):
of the playoff. Now I've heard some theories on what
the Playoff Committee would do here. There is a theory
out there. It's a little conspiratorial, which is fine. It's
the playoff Committee we're talking about, after all. There's a
theory out there that if you watch the Playoff Committee
rankings or you look at them, you'll notice they don't
show you past twenty five. They show you one through

(23:44):
twenty five, and if there's no G five team in
the top twenty five, they let you know who the
highest ranked G five team is now in this case,
there is a G five team in the top twenty five,
it's USF. We don't know where James Madison is ranked,
but there are context clues, so it's not like we

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don't have any idea where jmu is ranked. Right now.
The Playoff Committee rankings pretty closely mirror what the AP
pole is. The AP pole has USF twenty five as well,
it has James Madison twenty fourth. So either the Playoff
Committee rankings wildly deviate when it comes to James Madison,

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or James Madison's pretty comparable right now in resume to USF.
And if that's the case and they both went out
and they win their conference championships, they're not dropping, They're
only going to elevate, So they would I would assume
both be in the twenty to twenty five range. At
that point, You've got to ask yourself how highly would
the committee put a nine to four ACC champ Duke

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who has not played a murderer's row of a schedule
at all and has lost to Tulane and Yukon and
got smoked by Illinois. So they did nothing out of conference.
They didn't accomplish anything out of conference just happened to
win their conference. That's the acc doomsday scenario and the
only hope there is maybe Miami grabbing in that large spot.

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But Miami could drop a game too, like Pitt loses
to Notre Dame this weekend and then beats Miami. Very
very conceivable, is my point. So, man, those two G
five teams making it, and you know how angry and
irate people would be. Can you imagine selection Sunday where
a power for conference is told you're not in at all.

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the point we could. Let's move on, got a lot
still to get to. Got cublic in the on deck circle.

(27:46):
He's just kind of warming up. Oh he's got a
donut on his bat that's adorable. I promised you guys,
I was going to answer some questions on the show,
and I'm gonna answer some questions on the show. Matthew
from Baton Rouge, Louisiana hit us up. He said, how
fast have a turnaround could LSU have if they hire
the right coach? Pretty quick? You're gonna hire the right coach,

(28:07):
I mean, before you hire the right coach. I got
to know how the operation's working down there, I said
the other night, and I took some criticism for it.
The LSU search hasn't even had a chance to really
get started because there's been a mess behind the scenes
and the public spectacle of the lawsuit. I don't care
who's Sue and who. By the way, that public spectacle
is really ugly. It's a turnoff for prospective candidates.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
I'm not guessing on that stuff. I'm right on it.
I know what I'm talking about. I'm not just like spitting.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Into the wind.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Say oh, I think I'll say this on the show tonight.
So I am biased pro LSU. So if anyone wants
them to get their act together, I do. But you
don't need to run to the message board and trash
me just because I said something you don't like. You
don't like that what was said was true, you should
not like me. I'm just telling you the truth. So

(28:56):
let's say they get their act together. I'm very hopeful
they will. Look at my fingers crossed him, very hopeful
they will. If they do, then yes, they could get
turned around really quickly. Lane Kiffin, I know you see
a lot of reporting on him. I know that there's
a lot of speculation in this and that Lane Kiffin
I think will have an opportunity to have this job.

(29:19):
That's what I think. I don't know that, because no
one from LSU has told me that, But I think
he will. You get enough, You get enough t leaves
since your way that I think he will. Don't know
if he's gonna take it or not. Don't even know
if he finds it the most desirable of the options
that are going to be on the table for him.
Let's just see how ole Miss also chooses to handle

(29:41):
Lane in the coming days. Because I mean, I've got
my theories on how I would handle it if I
were Keith Carter the ad there, which matters about as
much as any other words coming out of my mouth.
But if I were an ad, I gotta have an answer, man.
I can't just sit here and twist in the wind.
So that matters. How ls you've used Lane matters, How
Lane views LSU matters. But whether it's him, whether it's Freeman,

(30:04):
if you could get Freeman, that would be awesome, or
whether it would be John Sumrawler, whoever it would be,
that's desirable enough to you. Just remember the rules here.
The rules are. This is LSU. When it's operating functionally,
it is among the best, if not the best jobs
in college football. I believe that. And regardless of whether
you believe it, believe me when I tell you many

(30:26):
of the names on that list believe it, and many
names that aren't on that list believe it. Like even
guys who aren't interested in coaching in college would tell
you if I was interested in coaching in college, that's
the job I'd want. So we don't have to we
don't have to doubt whether it's an unequivocal upgrade from
the place most guys are at. If all the alignment

(30:46):
is there, that's the only obstacle here. The only obstacle
is in this day and age. In the modern day
and age, it's not nearly as common sense a move
to take the LSU job for guys, guys that are
in different positions than it used to be used to be.
You'd crawl over broken glass to go from having a
job at ole miss to having a job at LSU

(31:08):
or anywhere else. Now it's got to be an unequivocal upgrade.
And if you don't have that alignment, there's all this
infighting perceptionally or in reality. If the political scene looks
like it's a mess, and you're the least bit worried
about how it's going to play out down there, Unlike
years past, where you may bite the bullet on all
that because of the resources LSU offers you in return,

(31:30):
you probably got pretty good resources right now. If you're
good enough for them to be offering you the job,
you're probably at a place that you got pretty good
resources at right now. So it's got to be an
unequivocal upgrade. If it is that, if it has its
affairs in order, yes, yes they can get that thing
turned around. The other question I've had about this is

(31:51):
number one, it's all about the staff you bring in
with you. That's with any head coach. I don't care
who it is. I'm caring more about the staff than
even I am the head coach. And then number two,
there are some people already in the building down there
that are among the best in the world at what
they do. You could be talking about Blake Baker, that's
the defensive coordinator. You could be talking about Austin Thomas,

(32:12):
who's the general manager. There are a lot of people
in that building that any coach would be very blessed
to have working alongside him. But that's not always the
way it works. Like I've watched many coaching changes. I
watched when Brian Kelly came into LSU, and quite frankly,
he flushed some people in that building just for the
sake of flushing them, and I thought handled very poorly,

(32:36):
and since then a lot of people have complained about it.
But I mean, when you come in the building, there's
some good people who are told to look elsewhere sometimes,
and that's fully the prerogative of the future head coach.
I just think the guy who walks in at Florida
is going to have it the same way. There are
some really really high level, superstar type people at Florida
in their particular role that you might be best to

(32:59):
just keep around to board. Did this some at Alabama
he brought in his but he also kept some of
those folks around. Why well, they were good enough to
work for Nick Saban for a long time, so they're
probably pretty good at what they do. Some of those
people exist at LSU. So yes, like if you get
the right guy, the right staff, the proper alignment, and
the right people are kept on board and then meshed

(33:19):
with the new people and new ideas that you bring in,
yes they could be right back to where lsu' is
supposed to be absolutely yes, there there. I want to
remind you of something, and then I want to tell
you something. We're pretty deep into the show here. It's Thursday,
so I always like to reward our Thursday crowd. Those

(33:42):
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I want you to keep this amongst ourselves right now.
You know the other night when I told you I
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if we really did that, Jesse, if we really had
a big live show. Let's just imagine to ourselves. It's
say Atlanta Georgia the night before the SEC championship game
in early December, and we have a big live show,
Several friends of the show join us as guests, and
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be crazy. It's all hypothetical, just all hypothetical. Let's continue

(35:09):
another good question here. I'm excited because I can take
this question a couple of different directions. Benjamin from Saint Hedwig,
Texas said, who are your dark horse national champion contenders
this postseason? Normally what this means is take a team
that no one's talking about, like USC or someone like
that Utah. But I don't really have that, Benjamin. If

(35:32):
you're talking about making the playoff, I could have those.
I don't think this late in the season, when you've
watched this many teams play this many games that there's
a team that you could never imagine winning the whole
thing that's gonna really go on to win the whole thing.
Here's what I do think. We have two lanes right
now when it comes to the playoff lane. Number one

(35:52):
is a boring lane if you're not an Ohio State fan.
And that is the lane where Ohio State really is
as good as they look, maybe they even get better,
maybe they even peak at the right time. If that's
the case, Ohio State's going to win the national championship.
Case closed. There are very few teams that can match
up with them. Let's go the more exciting route and
the interest of you know, filling time here, creating something

(36:15):
that's interesting to talk about. Let's say Ohio State is
still pretty good, but let's say they show some vulnerability,
and let's say you end up looking at them come
playoff time and saying, hey, Ohio State's good. But you know,
I don't think of them the same way I thought
of them a month ago. I've seen them bleed a
little bit. I think they can be beaten. If we
live in that world, which is the world I want

(36:36):
to talk about here, how many teams could win the
national Championship. I'm gonna talk to Kublic about this in
a little while. I want to get his take on it.
I'm going to put some higher stakes on Cublic than me.
I'm just sitting here trying to have fun with this.
But I went down the list. Right now, you see
the odds to win the whole thing are on the
screen right here. But I also have just the rankings
in front of me. All right, So in the world

(36:59):
where Ohio State's vulnerable, let's walk this through. Ohio State
can certainly win it all, no matter what. Indiana, though,
in that world, could win it all. That's a crazy sentence. Indiana, Yes,
is a contender to win the national Championship. I know
that we've gotten used to saying that. This year, I'm
still trying to get used to saying that period. All right,

(37:19):
So Ohio State, in Indiana, Texas, A, and M could
they win the national title? Yes? Could Alabama win the
national title?

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Could Georgia win the national title?

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
So that's already five. There have been years in the
past where we couldn't even get that deep. So we're
already at five. Oregon, especially if they get healthy. Yes
for me, notre Dame is a yes for me. Texas
is a yes for me ole Miss, especially if they
got the right matchups and they got hot, and we've

(37:51):
seen Ohio State be vulnerable in this scenario, Very yes
for me. I think I counted nine that I would
put in there. I gotta be honest with you. I
skipped over Texas Tech. I still think if they have
to win three games in a row and they're facing
very very equal, if not more talented rosters, and the
staffs are really good, and quarterbacks eventually have to win

(38:14):
you games in the playoff, I don't know that I
elevate Texas Tech to that level. So I leave them
just outside my bubble. Good team though, I'm leaving Oklahoma
just outside that bubble. But here's the thing. If we
watch them play Bama Saturday, and Matier you rounds into
form again like his pre injury self. Oklahoma's one hundred

(38:34):
percent in this bubble. So can I have the right
to reserve or reserve the right to change? There are
no rules. We're making up the rules as we go.
The answer is yes, got Notre Dame in there. So
my point is we're sitting here with the second week
in November. And if we just change one thing about
the current state of the playoff, and that one thing

(38:55):
is we make Ohio State vulnerable. We got like ten
teams that could win the whole thing. Now that is crazy,
because I don't think we've ever seen a national championship
picture that wide open. We've seen the playoff picture that
wide open, not the national championship picture. Now. I left
out Miami, I left out USC. I still view them

(39:17):
as being on the outside looking in of being able
to win three or maybe four games in a row
in that setting if they need to. It's a feel thing.
We could go down the list and break all the
reasons down, but that's just those teams were just on
the outside looking in for me. So I don't have
dark horses for you, but I do have a really

(39:37):
really wide net that I have to cast if you
just change one perceptional and that is that Ohio State's vulnerable.
Academy sports and outdoors not They're always there there as
consistent as can be. And again, in the interest of
giving a lot of free stuff away, I am happy
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to check it because it's worth a lot of money.
Thank you, Academy. We move on. Let's see I got
a one or two more things, gonna get some best bets.
Then we're gonna get a Cublick Colson from Dallas, Texas
hitting me up. He said, give a breakdown on the show.
If you were the commissioner of college football and have
a proposal for improving the officiating mechanism across the sport.

(41:04):
We've heard your general issues with it, but give your
formal pitch on how you would make it better. All right,
Here's what I would do. Do we all agree with Colson?
I think we do that officiating in college football needs
a lot to be desired. Right now. That means every
call is bad, not every game's bad, not every crew
is bad, but in general, it's my opinion that there
is really, really like an inexplicable amount of game deciding

(41:27):
bad officiating in college football right now. Most of you
agree with that. Most of the officials would even agree
with that truth be told. So here's what I would do.
I would get elected college football commissioner, and then I
would try and do three things. The first one is
I would nationalize officiating. It is the dumbest thing in
the world to me that we have conference officials, especially

(41:50):
when we play out of conference games in college football,
and we also assign these officials to bowl games and
playoff games. And so why would I have big twelve
officiating crews officiating South Carolina versus Illinois in a Bowl
game makes no sense. If we're going to have it officiated,
why not have a top to bottom universal standard, which

(42:11):
I'll get into in a second. And therefore I don't
have to worry about any kind of rumor here or there,
or any kind of stigma here or there. Well, that's
an sec crew. That's a big twelve crew. It should
be a college football crew. So that's the first thing
I would do. And there's a lot that comes with that.
I'll get to it in a second. Second. Thing, We're
going to be fully transparent with our officiating process. I'll

(42:34):
tell you why. Because we're not guarding state secrets here.
We haven't discovered a cure for an infectious disease that
we're trying to keep out of the hands of a
foreign government. It's not that secretive. We're fighting over a
football and trying to score more points than the other team,
and people who are dressed like zebras are trying to
make sure some rules of the game are enforced. It's

(42:55):
utterly insane that we guard decisions and official in general
behind this like impenetrable curtain. Players have to answer to
the media when they screw up. Coaches have to answer
to the media when they screw up. But the official
screw up and they jet out of town. Why well,
the excuse that you're given is, well, they're just part time,

(43:16):
they're not even real full time employees. Make them full
time employees. Then I'll pay each of them. Well, I'll
find some money, we'll round up some money. I'll pay
each of them six figures per year. And therefore it's
fully rational and fair to hold them to the same
standard that everybody else is held to. When you're paid
to do a job and you don't do it, like,

(43:37):
if you don't like it, quit. Coaches have this happen
to them. Players have this happen to them. You do
a good job, you get praised. You do a bad job,
you get lit up. But officials, it almost turns up
the heat more. When something bad happens. There's an egregious
call or a no call, you don't even get an answer.
The closest you get to it is you're a and

(44:00):
you're on your message board on Monday and you're like
an Auburn fan. And Justin Holkinson has a news story
where he reports that he hears Auburn coaches got feedback
from the SEC that they messed up a call, according
to sources, like.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (44:16):
So that's all scrapped and we are going to have
the white hat on the crew. The crew chief made
available to media after every college football game, and he's
going to have to answer for the calls they made.
He's not a part time employee, he's a full time employee.
He's got salary, he's got benefits, he's living a good
life on Sunday through Friday. He's going to feel the

(44:36):
heat on Saturday. And you may think all that makes
an official's life miserable. You know what it would actually do.
It would make the bad ones lives measurable. The good
ones would be fine. Here's what else would happen. I
know this may come as a shock, but sometimes people
complain about calls that were right, but it's never properly

(44:58):
articulated to you that the call was right because the
entire functionality of the call was never explained to you
the officials made the call, it may or may not
have been articulated to the broadcast crew why the call
was made. Therefore, the broadcast crew doesn't tell you on
air why the call was made or what the call was,
and then they're gone. They're in a van police escort

(45:19):
to the airport or the state line. As soon as
the game's over, and you don't hear anything. You know
what it would mean for a white hat to stand
in front of the media and get grilled about a
missed call and then him be able to say, well, actually,
here's what happened. Here was the procedure, here's what we saw,
here's what the rule says, here's how we interpreted that,

(45:39):
and here's how we applied it. It would actually tamp
down a lot of the noise because a lot of
these calls are actually right, or at the very least,
they're within the framework of judgment at the very least,
or at the very worst, are there blown calls. Yeah,
they're gonna chase you anyway, you might as well not run.
They chase far less if you don't run. What's the

(46:03):
worst it could happen? You stand there and say, we
may have messed that one up.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
We know, we know you did.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Anyway, it helps to hear it. Then it helps to
hear maybe how you're gonna make sure it doesn't happen
moving forward. And then the third thing, which when I
talk to officials. Is the most important thing is I
would standardize the rules. Like I said, I would have
national officials instead of conference officials. And the reason that's

(46:29):
so important is not just to remove the stigma of
favoritism one conference to the other. It's to standardize the
enforcement procedure. Right now, the biggest hidden mess in college
football officiating is Conference USA officials are told to emphasize
things that Big ten officials are not, and Big ten
officials hold the flag on things that SEC officials throw

(46:51):
the flag for. It's so stupid.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
It's the stupidest.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Problem to have. It's so easily preventable. But you have
these silos that exist because it's kind of political and
there's a lot of power in the vacuum, and so
you've got these conference heads of officials then in some
cases hate each other, so they have their own little
fiefdoms and the only authority they have in life is
that they oversee officiating at the league level in the

(47:15):
Sun Belt or the ACC or whatnot. I'm not even
speaking about anyone in particular. I'm just randomly pulling conference
names out of thin air. It's so stupid that that exists.
If you rebuilt college football today. You would never build
it like that, So why does it exist like that
right now? If you would never build it like that,
And then I would calibrate the hiring process where it's

(47:38):
pure meritocracy. And I couldn't care less if I have
fifteen people all from making Georgia, if they're the best
officials in the country, they're going to officiate and they're
gonna lead crews all across the country. You could be
a guy, you could be a girl. If you're getting
my calls right, you're going to be on the cruise.
And the ones who screw up, I don't care what

(47:58):
their last names are. I don't care what boxes they check.
They're sitting at home because it's too important and there's
too much of your money on the line. The Rama
Noodle expresses, money is on the line. A coach's salary
is on the line, a player's nil dollars are on
the line. The integrity of the game is on the line. Sorry, sorry,
If you want to go work as an intern for

(48:20):
the summer at your dad's construction company, some nepotism is
okay there, we can't have it when it comes to officiating.
And if that's a controversial stance. It's just a controversial show, Jesse.
Let's save the frate's origin for another night. I will
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Speaker 2 (50:08):
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Speaker 1 (50:09):
There, but don't miss the show. All right, before we
get cublic in here, here's what we're on. We got
Coastal Carolina plus two and a half earlier this week.
We got Alabama minus five and a half earlier this week,
and we got UAB plus eighteen and a half earlier
this week. Now, those are the three that we've been
on so far. I'm about to add one here. Florida

(50:30):
Atlantic is going to Tulane. They're getting a lot of
points plus seventeen and a half. There's a lot of
noise about John Sumrall, and all they need to do
is win. They don't need to cover, so I think
it may be about a field goal too much to
give FAU. Bad team, but not terrible. So we'll take
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Also Yeah Tuesday Date Night Podcast. Also scaling. As they
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Getting in trouble that you don't promote that, So it's
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That's it.

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I saw the missed call log. Tuesday Date Night podcast
is actually the first product that you put out that
I listen to every week. So I'm well aware of
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to emulate Tuesday Date Night podcasts, not entitle but in
concept with someone in my apartment hold and I don't
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but there is someone who wants me to traffic in
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with a puppy would be really hard. I don't even
know why you would consider that.

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Yeah, pod with the pup mainly for the acronym.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
So see if you hold on, if you listen, let
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Speaker 1 (53:03):
Feet very much out of sheets. It's the first task,
no matter what the temperature. Yeah, no, no, don't, I don't care.
It's a big fight. It's a big point of contention
to me. That's how you gauge the quality of a hotel.
People rate hotels three star, four star, five star based
on cleanliness, based on whether or not you get a
continental breakfast and all this other stuff, And I'm like,
how hard is it to remove the sheets from being tucked,

(53:26):
because like some of those maids tuck those sheets all
the way to the other end of the earth.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
And oh done.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
It's it's yeah, well, my wife has a militant sheet tuck,
and I need my sheets under my feet at night.
So that's a that's a every evening. I'm almost tearing
the acl kicking the sheets up, and.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
She's just like, what are you doing? Let it go? Yeah, like,
I got to get them under.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
If you've ever if you've ever even mildly hurt yourself
doing something that is in line with adjusting sheets, it's
a bad feeling. It's really really a sledgehammer to the pride.
But then you realize, I'm not arguing about this. This
is a non negotiable, like breathing oxygen or drinking water.
We're gonna have the sheets untucked and under the feet.

(54:07):
And since you're four foot seven, you don't have to
worry about that. But if you're you know of the
height that can ride roller coasters at six Flags, it
can be a little bit of an issue. Okay, that's
a paper stacker. There, We move on. We were just
having this conversation earlier, so I wanted to get your
thoughts on this. I'm gonna put higher stakes on you
than I put on myself. So there is a world,

(54:28):
of course where Ohio State is every bit as legit
as they look, and maybe they'll be the favorite to
go on and win the title, and maybe they'll win
the title. But that's not fun for anyone who's not
an Ohio State fan to talk about in November. So
let's say that we were to rub the magic eight
ball and we get truth spilled to us, and it's
just known truth. Ohio State's pretty vulnerable. They can be
beaten just like everyone else. They're just one of the

(54:49):
teams in the pack right now. They happen to be
number one. If I were to tell you that's the reality.
And I told you you have to create your championship bubble.
You can put as many teams in it as poss
that you think can win a national championship. You're trying
to put as few teams in there as possible, but
if you leave someone out of the bubble then ends

(55:09):
up winning the championship you die. How many teams are
in your bubble? Yeah, no, it's not lack.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
We're not giving up ice cream for a year anything.
We're just going We're going straight to the coffin here.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
No, God, you're dead. You are undertaker in the ground.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
All right, we're leaving this thing small. What is my
reward for the smaller? It is to I get like
extra years on my life, if.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
I know that's what she said. I don't know what
the reward is. I know you get to live. You
do get to live.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Fair enough, and that that's a pretty big bonus.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
And I'll give you credential to the National Championship game,
so you get to watch the game that you predicted
in your little bubble.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Gotcha?

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Yeah, okay, Indiana's obviously going to be in there. Balance
on offense, elite quarterback play, efficient offense, enough on defense
to be able to be disruptive, and I think go
win a game if they had to. Texas A and
M obviously is going to be there. There are some
falls I think you could bring up that you may
be slightly concerned about. Some people are just going to

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point to rushing yards allowed. I look at that more
as when you have a high impact, high risk defense,
and you understand going in that you're going to take
these chances, you know you're gonna get hit with some
bigger plays. I'm not overly concerned about that. They can
pressure the quarterback. They can beat you on the ground,
through the air with high percentage throws and obviously a
mobile quarterback as well.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Alabama.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
Is there an offense that does everything, a defense that's
still morphing this late in the season, Josh.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
They dropped eight last week twenty three times.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
I believe in that game against LSU, the front moved
on run stunts and pressures more than I've seen a
move all season. So they're still morphing and changing. They're
gonna be there. George is gonna be there. Similar boat
to Alabama offense does absolutely everything. I think the offensive
line is gonna continue to grow by the time they
get to second third round of the playoffs. That could
be an old line that they just lean on and

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just hammer people. It's been inconsistent through the course of
the year, but it could be really good as we
get through there later.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I almost feel obligated to throw Texas Tech.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
In here because of some injuries, bouncing back and forth
between some guys, there's been a little bit of consistency
that wasn't there at one point. But I think they
have explosive capabilities on offense and they have a defensive
line that can take over a game. And those are
two qualities that I think you have to have right
now to go win a national championship. Is why I
would have old Miss there. Old Miss is going to
be able to do multiple things offensively to generate points,

(57:28):
to stress your offense and defense, and they do not
get good enough credit for how good they are upfront defensively.
Between Eccles Franklin and what they have Perkins on the
edge to do different things. I don't love the second
third levels as much as I have in the past,
third level specifically, but they have enough to disrupt upfront.
Oregon is obviously their high profile quarterback in Dante Moore.

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With an offensive line it's a semi finals.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
For the Joe Moore Award.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
They can push you around for the most part and
then have speed on the outside. The defensive line also disruptive.
Notre Dame is still there. I think can control the
line of scrimmage. It'll be a different style game for
them if they go win it. But I couldn't leave
them out just because defensively they have a chance to
be elite and one that can go takeover games. And
now it starts to get I think a little bit
tricky because I look at Oklahoma and Texas and I

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want to put them both in. I think Oklahoma's ceiling
is a little bit higher than the Texas ceiling because
John Mattier can just be that much more special, I
think than maybe anybody not named Ryan Wington go on,
the Texas offense.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Is going to be able to operate that way.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
Our defense is that can mitigate that limit what he's
able to do by either caging him in the pocket,
utilizing spy or spyes poral like we've seen Old Miss
two at times of Pete Golden this year. And then defensively,
if something happens and they take that Texas game plan
into a postseason game and decide not to move as much,
I think other teams could find the way to generate

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some offense.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I'm not I don't have texts.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
I don't and I listen, Colin Simmons can take over
a game.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
I love Tray more love Ethan Burke.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
I think I think Hill is maybe the best off
the ball linebacker in college football.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
The offense has been too inconsistent.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
I don't know if you're gonna be able to generate
these explosives and make people miss and get in the
open field and create explosive plays.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
I do think it's gotten better.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
But if we're talking about a playoff run against these
other teams that we've mentioned, I don't think I'm gonna
have the Longhorns there, and I think I'll probably cut
my list off there as well.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
All right, so you're a no on USC right, correct?

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Right?

Speaker 1 (59:33):
I am too. I'm about to add one more rules,
so stay tuned. Are you a no on Miami?

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Unfortunately? Yes, And it's consistency only. It is not big
time talent. It is not the ability to own the
line of scrimmage. I think they can do that on
both sides of the ball. Consistency decision making by Carson Beck,
which consistently has not been great, have big play capabilities
on the perimeter, love to run around and hit people,
but just have not seen it week in week out

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the way that I would. I need you to believe
that you're going to run through the college football playoff
and win.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
All those games.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Utah, I assume no.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
There's a lot to like what they rely on offensively,
I think would be a little bit easier to take away,
even with Spencer Fano in a really physical offensive line.
Devin dan Pire to me, just add libs a little
bit too much, Waits holds the ball a little bit
too long. I think that'll have a chance to get
them in trouble in one of those games we're referencing
on the way to a national championship.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
All right, I forgot to tell you this is competitive.
So the reason you have to make your bubble as
small as possible is because if anyone else in this
case my bubble ends up being smaller than yours, you
also die. So I have to inform you, in the
interest of fairness, I have one fewer teams in my bubble.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Than you do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Right now, are you interesting?

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
And I guess the team you left out?

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
I let go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
It's not Texas Tech.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Because we know you fell in love with Lubbock last
weekend and the things you've been saying about that place.
You would never do such a thing to that football team.
But I will go Oklahoma. I think you left Oklahoma
out and they are on my list.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
I left Oklahoma out, but I have Texas in, So
we canceled each other out there. I left Texas Tech
out number one cause Ubbck's not playing in the playoff
game Texas Tech is. And number two they're playing the
game in Miami and not Lubbock. So I I think
quarterback would end up getting them in trouble in one
of these bigger games. I don't think that they could
push the ball enough. I think, and you remember, you

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got to win three of them minimum, so you've got
to stack those games on top of each other. I'm
willing to bet against them doing that consistently enough where
I can eliminate them and make my bubble smaller.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
See, I like your mission accomplished by Tee and me
up to look bad in front of certain fan bases,
So I wanted to make my tea higher than yours
after all the play cating you did to Texas Tech
fans and get it right there on top of that
Tee for you to just knock them off, and they
realized that that belief is just not there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Yeah, what's crazy is how vastly you underestimate my ability
to seamlessly transition into taking credit from motivating a team
and then be right back into good graces with that
fan base. You really underestimate my ability.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Good luck with that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Yeah, it is the nature of good All.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Right, Well, our bubbles said, have not mastered that because
trust me, the fan bases that don't like me, it
has been.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Years and they still hate me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
So you even name squirrels after yourself on various CAMPI
you pay the money for it out of your own pocket,
and they still hate you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
We tried, man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
All right, here we go. By the way, we got
a couple of games coming up this weekend. I did
want to remind everyone because we get DMed about this.
Yes we still have the seat Geek promo code. Yes,
you can go to seat geek right now. We're going
to talk about O you Bama in just a second.
Our tickets available. No, it's sold out, but wait they
are because you can go to seat Geek right now
and you can purchase them. You can sit in the uppers,

(01:02:54):
you can sit in the lowers. You can do the
same thing over at Georgia when they play Texas. You
can go to Mississippi State you can go wherever you
want to go to seat Geek, and right before you
check out where it says promo code there, if you
feel like saving money, just enter pay ten pat E
one zero and that's going to get you ten percent
off your order up to two hundred dollars and anything

(01:03:15):
over two hundred dollars. Well, I mean, we're not psychopaths
around here. We can't give you unlimited ten percent off.
What we would do is we would just give you
twenty dollars off any purchase over two hundred. So I
know you guys are going to the games anyway, Go
to seat Geek, get your tickets there, pay ten twenty
percent off at checkout.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Bringing back Jesse, you want tickets, by the way, you
need tickets and anything. I don't think you do. I know,
I know how you run.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
I think I think I got a credential Saturday night.
If not, Josh Max is going to be in some trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Yeah, what's the last game you what's the less sporting
event you paid to go to?

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Ooh? What probably calls there?

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
A Braves baseball game two summers ago against the Nats.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
NAT's one three to two. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
In extras or just in nine.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
No, it's regular nine. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
I went to Braves Mets in nineteen ninety three and
saw Jeff Blauser hit a home run but still lose
to the Mets in ten. So that was my Fulton County.
Fulton County Stadium only experience there, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Was that Piazza.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Uh No, he was not there. He was in LA.
He was in LA at that time. Gotcha, good solid player,
good solid player. All Right, here we go Oklahoma Alabama.
I am very nervous about because I've exposed myself because
I went Alabama to win. I went Alabama pretty solidly.
Now it could go way sideways with turnovers, as most
any game can. I'm going to count on Ty Simpson

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being able to operate that offense like he pretty much
has done all year absent a traditional ground game. People
keep throwing the ou run defense in my face. I
have this like twisted view on this game where I
would be more concerned about it if rushing was a
more integral part of Bama's offensive profile. It's already not.
You've done a great job on this show when you've

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come on it documenting how they do accomplish what is
the equivalent of running the ball. They just do it
different than here run through the B gap. They don't
do it that way, but they still accomplish it. So
I watched Old Miss play Oklahoma. I watched Tennessee play Oklahoma.
Those are the two passing attacks I would most readily
compare to what Alabama can throw at you. Both of
them were three twenty or greater through the air, I think,

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so I trust that to manifest itself into some offensive
production for Alabama. I also go back and watch the
LSU game, which I know you have several times, and
you just look at how many missed opportunities there were
in explosive plays downfield by like fingertips, just by inches
here or there. So I just imagine the focus on precision,

(01:05:40):
the focus on accuracy, the focus on execution and route
running and throwing the ball. This week, I for some reason,
I really think it manifested itself in one of their
most complete looking finals on the scoreboard this week. So
I think they're gonna win. And it's not like some
blowout or anything like that, but I think they'll win.
I think they'll cover that five and a half. I
actually think they're going to win the game by ten

(01:06:01):
or more. How wrong or right do you think that is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
I think you're probably wrong in thinking that it's going
to be a big win. There are a lot of
things that could be problematic for Alabama in this game,
but there are not a lot of other things that
I think Oklahoma can do to say, extend the lead
or just walk past Alabama in this game. I love
the Alabama defense being able to do some different things
than they were doing six seven weeks ago. I think

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some of those can actually help against John Mattier. I love,
like save Jordan Jefferson at linebacker and his ability to run,
how fast he is, being able to utilize him as
somebody who sort of just negates what John Mattier can
do on the ground. We say spy all the time
and it doesn't always work, but understanding you guys can
watch Leonora's Sellers against Old Miss Pete Goding did something

(01:06:48):
I'm not sure I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
He had double spies for a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Of the game, and I don't think people oftentimes Josh
see the fact that even though the spy doesn't make
the tackle, there were multiple instances. Romano I talk this
on Read and react where you see Lenor Sellers kind
of start to tuck the ball and look to run.
You can see his helmet turn and he sees that
guy four or five yards off the ball, off the
line of scrimmage, and immediately turns to go a different direction.

(01:07:12):
Like spies can operate in that instance as well, where
you're just a deflector to be able to get the
quarterback to leave the pocket a different way so he
doesn't have those direct north south runs when he decides
to tuck the ball and run, which is usually when
they're most dangerous. You don't want Jometier to be able
to do that. If he wants to run three sixties
around the pocket. Try to go back and forth and
zigzag great, because the longer that lasts, the more likelihood

(01:07:34):
it is that it's going to be a play that
goes into your favor to the rushing yards. It was
interesting you said people are giving you the rush defense
numbers for Oklahoma, to which everybody tells me that They'rearth's
falling in going to cave in for Alabama because they
can't find ways to run the football when you do
all the other things as well as Alabama does. I
think it offsets a little bit of that. The goodness
for Alabama is where Oklahoma is most problematic is between

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the tackles and off tackle, and depending on the health
of a Mason Thomas, may not be as effective off
tackle as they have been. They can work their way
around all of that quick throws on the perimeter. They're
great with the screen game against LSU. You saw Quavis
on a little quick dump up the seams to the
tight end. You have a receivers that can hurt you
down the field. Ty Simpson loves to work the middle

(01:08:19):
of the field, and as busy as Oklahoma is adding
defenders to the box, utilizing numbers in the box to
take away the run or pressure, there will be spots
over the middle of the field that are open for him.
This will come down to the album offensive line just
keeping him clean. If they can keep defenders off of
him and escape a sack, fumble, strip sack for a touchdown,

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a hit that sort of deflects the ball up in
the air and Oklahoma can intercept it. Because I still
don't know how good or great the Oklahoma secondary is.
The defensive tackles are incredible, The edge defenders are really good.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
The linebackers can fly.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
The secondary hasn't had a ton a true test this
year because that group has been so good. So if
Alabama can utilize quick game, quarterback run, a little bit
of run game here and there, keep them off balance,
force them to sort of calm things down as much
as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
That's the recipe for Obama to go win this game. Now.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
I we'll say this offensively, Oklahoma's kind of finding their
way a little bit the last two three games hat
on a hat with that offensive line finding some space
in the run game, it's a little bit of a
different group. I think they're going to be playing from
a front seven perspective. But if they lean on that
and it starts to go and I'm not talking twenty
thirty yard clips or twenty carries for two hundred and

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eighteen yards, they just need to be in second and six.
They need to be in third and fours. And with
John Matteer's ability to move around, if they can do
those things, I think Oklahoma can maintain possession. Then it
could end up being a long day for Alabama. But
have to have those first and second downs go first consistently.
If Oklahoma's going to find a way to be competitive
or win this football game.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Have you stood Have you done an Oklahoma game this year?

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
No? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
So have you have you watched You have not watched
Matier from field level?

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
Not in personal? I met him at Media Days, but
I haven't. I haven't seen him play in person.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
I remember I sent you that video from the Michigan
game when we were there, and like everyone, everyone was
making a big deal about Matier's release point and how
crazy it was, not low it was now. They were
using that to like disqualify for him from any legit conversation,
which I thought was dumb. I begged him to win
the Heisman, so obviously I was high enough on him.
Then he got hurt and he hasn't really been the
same since. But to my knowledge, like I'm trying to

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think back, there hasn't been Has did there been that
Oklahoma game where they are like four or five balls batted?
It just becomes a chronic issue in game. It may
have happened, and I don't recall it. But I keep
also waiting for that game because when I sent you
that video, it is so glaring when you're standing there
and you watch how different the ball comes out of

(01:10:56):
his hand, how much lower the release point is. And
the video I sent you, I did it on purpose
because you're looking at it looks like a squirrel weaving
his way through trees. To watch the football weave its
way through, you know, extended arms of defenders. Now, it
doesn't matter if no one gets a hand on it.
But as like, as much as I'm concerned about, oh,
what if this defensive pressure, what if Bama's offensive line

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can't hold up, what if mister one interception all year
ty Simpson has two of them in the first half.
As much as I think about that, I keep thinking
about the same thing with him, and I think about
how opportunistic Bama's defense has been, Like you got a
I think you got a top ten turnover ratio team
here against one in the one hundreds. And the one
in the one hundreds is the road team, I think
we said the other night. So that's the other thing

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I think about with mateir. And then the third thing
I was going to ask you about because you kind
of mentioned justin Jefferson and you mentioned the role he
could play in this game. Bray Hubbard got like one
of the player of the Week honors in the SEC
which is just.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Why Gray last week.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Yeah, like you think about how we were talking about
him after Week one, though, think about if you were
to it fast forwarded and you showed yourself a glimpse
of mid November, and this is how we're going to
be talking about the Bama defense and individually, this is
how we were going to be talking about this player
or that player. Oh, by the way, russav is going
to be out, so they're going to lose him for
a little while, and that's still going to be the

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state of that defense. How surprised are you at where
they are right now relative to how they started the season.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
The only reason I'm not is because we had the
Ulm game and we got to go in that facility.
We got to talk to Kaitlyn to Bor, talk to
Kane Womock. I spent a lot of time with David Below,
the strength coach, that weekend, talking to him at practice
and hearing everybody's message be exactly the same that came
out of nowhere. We had the best offseason from a

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weight room perspective, nutrition perspective. We had the best two days.
They don't do two days anymore, but the best fall
camp we had the most physical camp we've had. Everything
was the most and the best, and it was completely unexpected.
And having known Kailn for a while, I didn't think
he was lying to me. Having known coach Wamack for
a while, I didn't think he was lying to me.

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Having known Grub for a little bit, I didn't think he.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Was lying to me. I've known Blue for a while.
He wouldn't lie to me.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
So that forced me to kind of take a step
back and say, all right, we need to give them
a chance to write this, because if it was that
wrong based on what the whole.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Staff thought they were gonna get. And you know, Josh,
most staffs know what they have.

Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
They might not want to admit it, and they might
lie to themselves every single day until it's all over
with and they're fired. But that staff did not think
that was feasible to put that kind of performance out there.
So I kind of said to myself, we need to
give him a chance, We need to give him a second,
take a step back. We weren't going to take a
ton away from the ULM game. But they responded, so

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that was job number one. Came back put it on
the way they were supposed to handle their business. Then
I said, all right, now we're about to learn what
this team really is. They have my attention again, let's
at least see what it is from here on out.
So from that perspective, I'm not overly surprised. I think
I'm just more surprised that we got We have outliers
all the time in this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Sport, individual position groups, teams.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
We always have those funky losses, or an offensive line
that just lets guys run through like a turnstile, or
DB's that gets smoked for the course of the game.
We have it all the time, So I'm more surprised
that it was that week one. But again, this is
where the retraining of the brains still needs to come
around and happen, because Week one is going to be

(01:14:23):
a lot different for so many teams moving forward. There
are these guys in this locker room that have known
each other for four or five weeks, not played football together,
like they probably don't know each other's names when they're
lining up next to them in an actual football game.
So that takes your continuityway the field, the chemistry, the rhythm.
Then all of a sudden, if you're getting different looks
on defense, and the guy that I thought I was

(01:14:43):
going to be iding in the mic is not even
in the game, and they're running a totally different front
than we prepared for.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
All of a sudden that changes in a hurry.

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
So I'm more surprised that it was that much of
an outlier than the am that they've been able to
bounce back only because I had those conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
It's crazy also, the ingreedy that only the season can
give you, and I could just as easily we may
end up saying this about Indiana last week against Penn State.
You could practice as well as you possibly could, You
could lift as well, eat as well as you possibly could.
There may, for all you know, be an ingredient that
it's mandatory. The season provides you could be a loss,
could be a close win. But it's what you get

(01:15:19):
out of that ingredient that you could never have replicated.
You go in Alabama's building now, like I've asked several
of their guys point blank, do you think you would
be remotely the team you are without the FSU outcome?
Everyone of them says no, No, didn't know we needed that,
certainly didn't hope we needed that, but as it turns out,
there's an edge here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
I don't think we would have had try as we might,
we probably would not have had that without the Florida
State game. My thinking there is, Okay, who else do
I apply that to during the season? And it may
be Indiana. It may be that Indiana sitting there in
the national championship game and they've won three back to
back to back close games to get there, and you're like, wow,
would we have been able to do that without that

(01:15:58):
Penn State game? Called a weakness they called a flaw
at the time.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
Why do we outweigh that though by how incredible it
was for Indiana to come back and win that game?
I don't know, Like why do we outweigh the closeness
of it against the lower tier opponent, which that should
even be an outlier in and of itself.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
It's kind of like playing for SEC fans.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
That would be like playing a close game against LSU
or Florida right now, Like, yeah, they fired their coach,
but let's go through the litany of first round draft
picks that they have on their rosters. It's a lot
of them combined, especially so you don't think talent can
catch up with you consistently on a regular basis like
I do. It's not gonna happen every week because we
don't know where their brains are.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
We don't know if they're.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
Mad, happy, sad, want to leave, don't like the fact
that their coach got fired, elated that their coach got fired.
We never know what that is. Penn State still has
talent at the end of the day. That environment is
still very difficult to go play in no matter what.
But we outweigh that by the the ifs and butts
ors of why didn't they go in there win by forty?

(01:17:01):
What's wrong with them? What's their problem? How many teams
in that spot could have done what that team did,
specifically taking a sack on first down to that two
minute drive. That's the part that nobody's talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Josh. You know how many teams on.

Speaker 4 (01:17:16):
A two minute drive ninety something yards to go win
the game back against the wall hadn't done anything all
day that take a sack on first down?

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Like done?

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Yeah, yeah, take away those weathers coming back from that.
You're just not one more game I wanted to get
to here. Texas got two shots at Georgia, leave sorry, Bradley,
I'll give you a chance to change the lower. There
we go. Texas got two shots at Georgia last year,
went oh and two, had sixty combined rushing yards in
the process, and the ladder of which was the conference
title game, and they got beat by a backup quarterback

(01:17:46):
income from behind fashion in the second half. That backup
is now Georgia's starter. Really interesting to see how you
see this game. I had several reasons that my mind
wanted me to take Texas, had some reasons why the
model won me to take Texas in the interest of
Georgia playing all these one possession games. Who knows, if
I had to bet the game against the spread, may

(01:18:06):
even take Texas plus the points because it just has
twenty four to twenty one written all over it to me.
But at some point, man, I almost have the tendency
to zoom out on games like this. I'll leave it
to you to talk about all the matchups, like I'll
leave it to you to point out specific players. My
nature is, if you're Texas or Georgia, you get to
decide how you play. You get to decide the offensive

(01:18:28):
defense you run because you get your choice of athletes
to do whatever you want to. You get the staff
however you want because you've got the biggest staff pools
in the country. You have endless resources. So the way
you're doing it is the way you would do it
if you could do it anyway. This is the way
Georgia chooses to do it. This is the way Texas
chooses to do it. So it's almost like a culture test,
like a culture game. It's like a program game every

(01:18:50):
time this stuff happens. So Georgia's run up against Bama
and had trouble Texas. Now I'm watching them run up
against Georgia. Smaller sample size, but they've had trouble. And
so I had someone ask me earlier this week, well,
who do you think Texas is? Just pause for a second,
because I could answer that about Kirby and Georgia. I've
long since been able to answer that. How do I

(01:19:10):
answer that? How would as we get into the game
breakdown here? How do you answer what is Texas under?
Steve Sarkesian to you? Because I think the data is
still incomplete or maybe like to get to the finished
version of the answer, you have to you have to
be on the right side of outcomes like this eventually.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
And I think they can be because the talent has
the ceiling for them to be. This comes down to
consistency again, and last year's team was very consistent at
doing things when asked to do them inside of that
system allows them to win games. Take a swing pass
in the flat, take a crossing route, take a toss
sweep or an outside zone to the running back, making

(01:19:49):
two three defenders miss instead of going for four yards,
it's twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Four yards or forty four yards.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
There's a small amount of games that Texas has done
that consistently this season. I've told you you go back
and put the UTEB game on. It's the best individual
tackling performance still that I have seen in college football
this year. The amount of one on one tackles that
were made against Texas ball carriers didn't feel like it
was real it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
I feel like it was cgi when I was watching it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
You put the Vanderbilt film on, and all of a sudden,
five guys can't get one guy down. And I don't
know exactly where that comes from, or how that's derived,
or what makes one or not the other playing together
understanding angle system, just having done it before. Ryan Wingo
looked like Superman last week. If he looks like that again,
Texas probably gonna win this football game. I think this

(01:20:37):
will come down to a couple of things. Number One,
for me, I like how you sort of leveled this
game out, like went back to an elementary flour level
with this game.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Because I agree that a lot of that is what
it's going to be.

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
Last year, Texas basically ran into a team that said,
we're about to see what you're about, Like do you
have the s about you that we know we do,
because we're gonna put it on display and we're gonna
test yours.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
And I don't think Texas had it. I really don't
do they have it this year. If they do, they'll
play with them. It'll be a competitive game.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
And at that point it comes down to some sychromatic
things that may be a mistake or two, but Texas
has to prove that to me first. It's kind of
is it's not as elementary or for ground level. When
I was in college, my offensive line coach Rick Trickey
should go to the whiteboard in certain games like this
and he would say them law Tech, he's Auburn and
he would circle Auburn.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
He's like, were's Auburn, you win this game? And like
that was it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
That was how he broke the game down. I wish
it would have been that easy. It wasn't always that easy.
But this game, to me, starts out being simplified to
that level. Will Texas match the grit the physicality? Are
they hard enough to be able to go out and
win this game?

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Ultimately?

Speaker 4 (01:21:51):
I think that's what it comes down to, because if
they're not that Josh, they don't have a chance to
win this game. If they are, then we can talk
about the lost players on offense, like a Dylan Bell
or a Jack injuries, because so many other guys are
going to get so much attention and they're going to
have their chances to make some plays and if they
make big plays, they'll be able to do that. And
offensive line being able to pick up Colin Simmons or
being able to play up Georgia pressures, all those things

(01:22:13):
come into play after that. But if Texas isn't that,
there's really not a lot else for us to talk
about as far as it came concern.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Yeah, the other thing I've listened to a lot of
folks out of Georgia talk about trying to manufacture as
best you can this late in the season, some kind
of pass rush. It's been very very well documented how
much they've struggled in that category this year. Now, to
their credit, they've kind of resurrected their ground game. Think
they were twenty fourth in the country coming into this week.
I know it's very very not in vogue to give

(01:22:43):
Mike Bobo credit for anything, but you know, maybe a
little crumbsworth a credit to him and that offensive staff.
But with so with Georgia, all right, So anytime you
go to a place like Georgia, you see these young
guys walking around the building that you know are not
going to be ready to go week one, you always
think to yourself, right, not every one of these guys
is gonna red shirt. So some of them are just

(01:23:05):
going to randomly pop on my screen, usually on special
teams Week three, week four. Then some injuries happen, or
maybe you're just not performing up to expectation, and they
get in the rotation against the team they're up by
thirty five against, and then all of a sudden, Texas
comes to town and some young kid ends up in
the backfield and you're like checking your play card to
make sure you've got the name and the number right.

(01:23:26):
I always think about that possibility. What Yanza Pierre's been
doing this year, not a freshman, but all of a sudden,
just kind of coming on and doing what he was
projected to do out of high school. George's got those
guys too. I just wonder, like from a ground level,
when you're sitting in a defensive staffing room and you're
trying to throw everything against the wall, saying, guys, we're

(01:23:47):
not gonna lead the sec in sacks this week. Let's
not even pretend we have that high level capability. How
do we do more than we're doing right now? What
are some simple steps they can take here, if they
can take any at all.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
The first thing I thought of is, man, this happened
a week early for Georgia, and it was number ten
a tight end last week, and you're just like, hold
on a second, who is that and where has he been?
He looks like he's an NBA small forward out here
in pads, knocking people down on the goal line, catching
balls over in midair, over to the sideline, tiptoe before
he goes out of bounds, like that shouldn't be allowed.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
At his size to via that athletic in that fast.

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
As far as the pass rush is concerned, there are
ways to generate it, and one of the reasons I'll
always give Georgia an advantage to be able to find
it is the precision in which they run their pressures.
A great example of that, A great counter to that
would have been Mississippi State last week and what they
attempted to do to Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
A lot of their three.

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
Man games, a lot of their two man pressures very
wide around the penetrators that were trying to basically clog
up space and allow for a gap or an alley
for them to be able to run through. That thing
would come around the tackle instead of just hugging that
butt cheek of that defensive tackle right over the guard.
And so when you do that, you obviously give the
quarterback more time to operate.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
There is.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
I guess, less selfishness and more precision with the way
Georgia runs their pressures than almost any other team in
college football. They just they know how to operate it,
and they don't do it for themselves. You can tell
they understand the assignment and it is to either occupy
these two offensive linemen or keep this offensive lineman from
being able to get into this gap.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
And they do it well because.

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
They play fierce football with authority, So the individuals might
not be there, but the way in which they do it,
and I will say Texas is a team that relies
a lot on two things.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Pull protection and slide protection. Those are gettable because if.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
You're trying to pull an offensive lineman around to one
pick up an edge dude for me coming off the
edge us where Jalen Walker got him a couple of
times last year. And when you pull that backside guard
on that, the center and the tackle then have to
close two gaps again. That takes time, and that's a
lot of space that is created for a short amount
of time you can attack that you want to side

(01:26:01):
the protection. All of these decoordinators have ways figured out
how to get past that to occupy offensive linemen, and
you're not gonna have somebody in the gap when you
retrace the defender back over where they should have been,
because they're.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Playing like robots and only going to one spot.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
So I would say the pressures that they're gonna draw
up the precision in which they will run them, and
the authority in which they will run them with almost
takes away the personnel part of it. Because George has
been that good at that part for so long. They
still have a chance to find a way to get
home by doing those things.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Now, I want you to tell the people how to
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Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Show Lost in Space.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
There is a podcast that talks about SEC football every Sunday,
Monday or Tuesday. It all depends on FAA flight regulations
and flights getting canceled. It depends on flights being moved up,
It depends on read and React on Mondays and how
many games we have to watch on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
But it is called Cube Show. It is right here
on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
We are closing in on twenty thousand subscribe, to which
some guy said that we needed to throw that in
your face, and I just laughed because I feel like
you're pushing people there on a weekly basis, which we appreciate.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
But we're getting there.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
We're just this little old startup podcast trying to make
some noise. We watch the film of every SEC game
and we tell you what you see. It's all we do,
facts and opinions. It's the only things we have.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
It's the only things we have, the only things we need.
Cube Show, ce U b E Show Space in between
those Cube Show and you can find it and it's
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fingers crossed that you guys have done here all right,
have fun. I'll talk to you probably like nineteen times
between the next time you're on the show. So pick
up please.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
What time is Friday night Lines? I need to get
back in there with some of my questions.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Great questions. It's a great question. So we'll be down
in athen I'm gonna go down there tomorrow actually, so
we'll be down there tomorrow. Depending on how long I
hang around with Scott Sinclair in the weight room, we
will get out of there. We will probably do it
at like halftime of the night game like we did
last week. I'm thinking, as you know, as you know,

(01:28:05):
you can follow on Instagram Josh pat CFP and I'll
let you know for sure. But yeah, I haven't made
my mind.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
People need to know what's happening with meyor Mack in
Coast Guard and you refuse to games Coast Guard?

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
What what? What?

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
What offense does Coast Guard run? It's Service Academy. You
know Coast Guard Space Force have a team yet, I
don't think Space Force has a team yet.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
Looking into it, struggling with the nil can't can't get
that going just yet.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
Well I don't even know the Navy and Air Force
been able to.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
Play gravities holding them back honestly from being able to
go hurry up, no huddle offense.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
But other than that, all right, we got dinner toy,
so we got to go peace out. And that's a
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