Week 4 Reaction Show: Clemson & Florida Implode + Michigan & OU Win & AP Poll Reaction

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
So one of the things you need to know about
Pete State here is when officiating goes off the rails.
We're really, really sourced up when it comes to officials.
A mind boggling amount of college football officials watched the show.
We're in contact with him. I talk to him every Saturday. So,
as you may or may not have noticed, but probably

(00:36):
did yesterday, officiating was an unmitigated disaster in many big games.
Do I have things to say about that? Yes? I do.
It is Sunday night at September twenty first, the Year
of Our Lord, twenty twenty five, jam packed high a
top just spectacular downtown Nashville, Tennessee full reaction Sunday. Clemson
has imploded, Clemson has fallen, Miami has risen Indiana. I

(01:01):
don't even know why I resisted Kurt Signetti. I don't
know why I've done it for so long. But no more,
no more resistance. I'm just gonna I will blindly follow
wherever he leads from now on the ap pole, kind
of taking a back seat to being broken on the
scale of brokenness relative to officiating. But yeah, I've got

(01:22):
some odds and ends. I got some bones to pick
with the ap pole as well. But I also have
some best bets rom Miindudle Express. Back above five hundred.
We are back amongst the winning, not that we were
ever amongst the losing. We were just at five hundred
for a little while. We didn't want that, so we
got that. I've got a big time tour announcement. Dare
I say, dare I say? Jesse tour announcements. We'll see

(01:42):
how it goes. Yeah, we've got like fifteen or twenty
minutes to change our minds. We'll see they're watching us
in Roanoke, Virginia, Las Vegas, Nevada, Knoxville, Tennessee, Laredo, Texas.
I chugged an entire cup of coffee right before we
came on air. That's where I went, Bradley, that's what
had you worried that we weren't going to start the
show on time. So during the segment here, energy should
pick up substantially. I don't know what more to tell

(02:04):
you if you're not watching or you're not following on Instagram.
Yesterday's story. Yesterday's Instagram story was about as lively as
any that I can remember. We were at the Nebraska game.
I'll talk about that a little bit later. But just
a lot of the stuff I can show you there
that I don't have time to show you on the show.
You got to be following there to see it at
Josh Pate CFB. And if you don't care about that,

(02:24):
then you don't need to follow. That's okay too. But man,
we got a loaded show. Jam pack shows suspiciously jam packed,
I would say, So let's dive into it. Where would
you start the show tonight? It's the kind of show
where three or four games could have been the first
one we talked about. But for me, nope, for me,
I knew where I was starting. Syracuse thirty four, Clemson

(02:45):
twenty one two Chili on the one to five scale
of viewability. Here there was a rain delay. Seems everyone's
getting in on the rain delay action these days, says
Miami even played a game without rain, So Clemson gets
rain delayed, but it did not delay the inevitable. We
made Syracuse the first bet we placed last week on
the show. You remember a week ago this night, a

(03:08):
week ago tonight, we bet Syracuse. I was just dumbfounded
that they were getting seventeen and a half because we
thought that Steve Angeli was the better quarterback in the
game and elsewhere. We just trusted fran Brown. I mean,
it's that simple. Some were worried throughout the week that
Dabbo's press conference and his statements were gonna fire that

(03:30):
team up. It was gonna provide a spark. And I
didn't say this on the show, but I said it
off the air, which I should get credit for in retrospect,
I said, what spark? What are you gonna spark? There's
no unknown. There's no unknown about the team. Everything's known.
It's a known commodity. I won't go as far as
to say it's a proven commodity. Clemson is a known commodity.

(03:52):
All these players returned. There's no mystery, there's no trance.
We know we know. There's no transfer portal infusion here.
In fact, one of the few dips into the portal
you made. It's actually one of the few bright spots
on the team. But there's no big portal infusion. We're
waiting for the magic click moment on. There aren't a
bunch of true freshmen all over the place, so I

(04:12):
always thought that was a little dumb. Last week, I
didn't think Dabo was talking to his team. I thought
he was talking to Oh, I don't know, maybe some
of the sweater vests around Clemson that have gotten a
little too used to winning. You would call those boosters,
and it needed to remind them how great he was.
Dabo's very good at that. Now I'm not taking shot.
I'm taking a little bit of a shot at Dabbo there.
But it's all in good fun because I love Dabo's twenty.

(04:34):
But it's not a good time at Clemson. So let's
talk about this. But we talked about winners first. So
Syracuse firmly believed on this show at least they had
the better quarterback and Steve Angeli if you watched this
game yesterday, surgical unfortunately actually will have to undergo surgery.
He tore his achilles in this game. He is out

(04:55):
for the year. The school confirmed that today. That's terrible.
I'm not saying anyone ever wants to get hurt, but man,
if you're gonna get hurt, that right there, you want
that to be the last page in last chapter of
your season's book. Because he torched Clemson, and they looked

(05:16):
like they wanted it more. At Syracuse, they played harder
they were more prepared. I had Clemson players, former Clemson
players texting me this throughout the game, like, look, how
more prepared they are than us? And just full disclosure here,
these are people who would ride to the ends of
the earth for that Tiger Paul and for Dabos Twinny.
But they were just stating the obvious. A team, yet again,

(05:39):
came into Clemson's building and just pushed him around. And
we're not talking about vintage Alabama. We're not talking about
Kirby's Georgia and Ryan days Ohio State. We're talking about
Louisville last year. We're talking about an LSU team with
a slightly hobbled quarterback to start the season, and we're
talking about Syracuse. So we good, Bradley, I just want

(06:02):
to make sure before I continue to talk. Yeah, we
are good. Okay. I don't care that they know I'm
wearing joggers, so that's fine with me. You can take
the lower thirds away. But man, this happened again all
too often. Dabbo last week said why are we held
to a different standard? You remember this, Daba said, why
are we held to a different standard than teams that
haven't done anything? Teams that have done nothing. To use

(06:24):
his exact words, well, because you've done something and you
set the standard there and now Clemson's fallen well short
of it. Not just this season, but it's been a
little while. This has been a pretty familiar theme. The
biggest dagger to the chest when it comes to Clemson
is not only how frequently now people are just coming
into your own building and pushing you around. Louisville came

(06:45):
in there and did whatever they wanted last year. Syracuse
came in there, did whatever they wanted yesterday. But it's
that FSU imploded last year. We've got case study after
case study of teams imploding and not coming close to
fulfilling on preseason expectation. Oh yeah, Florida State did it
last year. Here's what the dagger to the chest is.
If you're a Clemson fan, you know as well as
I do, that Florida State team was thrown together from

(07:08):
the portal. This Clemson team is completely homegrown. This is
a completely homegrown, veteran leadership, returning starters all over the place,
multi year coaching staff, continuity type Clemson team. And it's
not quite dead on arrival, but it's pretty close. In fact,

(07:29):
as the Clemson standard goes, which contrary to what Debo says,
I do have for them much higher than most teams.
As that thing goes. As the Clemson standard goes, it's
dead on arrival. And I don't know that there's any
skill in predicting how this is going to go. I
was talking to someone pretty in touch with that program
earlier today. They weren't trashed in daboswenty. I'm never going

(07:49):
to trash Dabo Swenny. They weren't doing anything like that.
A lot of people will do that because frankly, the
guy's a winner, and he's won a whole lot, and
there's a lot of pent up frustration of shots that
people have wanted to take it him for a long
time that they only just now get to take. So
I get all that. I'm not going to traffic in it.
What I will say is, I don't think there's any

(08:10):
skill in trying to predict how this goes. What I
mean is this season's probably going to be a wash.
Forget the season for a second, the Dabbo Clemson era.
We're in the middle of it still. So it's twenty
twenty five, So pretend it's two thousand and forty five,
I assume he's not at Clemson anymore. But when we're
looking back in twenty forty five at the year twenty

(08:31):
twenty five, what are the twenty forty five versions of
us saying. Are we saying, man, we didn't quite know
it yet, but that was his last season there. Or
are we saying we didn't quite know it yet, but
that was the beginning of a multi year slide down
a slippery slope that led to all kinds of turmoil
and unrest and uneasiness and a bitter dispute that led

(08:53):
to a bitter divorce two years later. Or are we saying,
can you believe how dead in the water Clemson looked
in twenty twenty five, and then Dabbo just completely reinvented
himself and pulled the nose up, and they won the
title in twenty twenty seven and went to the semi
finally again the next two years. Any of these things
to me are on the table. I don't know. I

(09:14):
will tell you what I haven't seen him do. I
wrote down some terms that came out of his mouth
ten years ago. Some of you will remember his famous
bell curve analogy as it related to college football, reinvent, reinvest, reset,
learn and grow. I'm not saying he's forgotten it. I'm

(09:36):
saying I don't see a whole lot of it around there.
And it's mandatory. It's just as mandatory now as it
was then. Dabo Swiney wants ahead of curves in college football,
wants ahead of the wave. Then riding the wave has
now had to wave hit him in the face and
he's got salt water in his eyes and he's struggling
to clear his nostrils out, and there's another one coming.

(09:57):
That's the way this works. The moment you're sitting still
in the ocean and you're getting battered, and he's sitting
still in the ocean. Clemings. Clemson's just sitting still in
the ocean and they're getting battered. So I give all
the credit in the world to fran Brown, because I'm
telling you, if they played another team like that yesterday,
Clemson would have out talented them and they would have won.
So you give all the credit in the world to
the visiting team that came in there scores on side kick.

(10:20):
I think Clemson was down ten to Ozho before they
ever even touched the ball, so credit credit credit to
Fran Brown. And there are some jobs that are about
to open up. This is the part Syracuse folks don't
want to listen to. Although you've got to be realistic. Man,
when your coach is this good, he's going to be
in the conversation. But there are going to be some
jobs that open up. You know how every time there's
a coaching search, there are some names out there that

(10:43):
are prominent and just agents doing a good job, basically
search firms doing a good job. There are some names
that are prominent. Then there are other names that seem
like common sense friend, Kurt Signidti. But there's this voice
in the back of your head, and your administration feels
the same way. There's this voice in the back of
their head that says, ah, yeah, but I don't know.

(11:03):
Why don't you know? Why don't you know about Fran Brown?
What do you need to know about Fran Brown? He's
up there in uh He's up in rural New York.
He's up in upstate New York and just taking Clemson
to the woodshed. Not in whatever the carrier dome is
called now, Not in that place. No, in Death Valley,

(11:26):
the building formerly known as Death Valley. Now now it's
just a pretty welcoming environment for inferior rosters. Because not
even Fran Brown's gonna sit here and tell you, yeah,
manpower man for man, I got equal athletes to them. No,
he's just got a better football team, got a better
football team. And unlike some of these results where I
look at it and say that seems just a little

(11:47):
bit flucish, I bet if that game were to have
happened tomorrow, so and so would be favored. This is
just not one of them. And truthfully, I didn't even
feel that way going into the game. I loved Syracuse
seventeen and a half point dog, and we were talking
about it on the show last week. If you were
following me on Twitter, I said, in the middle of
the game, I cannot believe they were given that many
points with the better quarterback. I didn't know they'd have

(12:08):
the more prepared team. That would have been helpful context.
But yeah, so we did cash in on Syracuse yesterday.
I don't know where it goes from here with Clemson,
but those words reinvent, reinvest, reset, learn and grow. Does
anyone feel like that's the modus operandi at Clemson right now.
I'm not saying they're just they're just mailing it into

(12:29):
cash checks over there. I know a lot of people
in that building. I know a lot of people in
that program. They're working just as hard as anyone else.
They want it just as bad as anyone else. There's
just a lot of staleness to that place relative to
other places. I'll say that there's just a lot. It
just feels stale from the outside. I don't know. We
weren't there yesterday. We were in Lincoln, Nebraska, which i'll

(12:52):
tell you about in a little while. I'm very fortunate
not to be more sunburned than I am. Had a
great time up there, quick trip fueling the fall don't
lie to her, and we went there yesterday. Prez is
working on the all access reel. We'll have that on
the social channels in the next day or so if
you haven't been following there By the way, I've been
doing this every year, I figured why not take one

(13:14):
of the staffers and sort of capture a lot of
behind the scenes stuff and put it together, add some
nice royalty free music as an audio bed, and just
release it for the masses. So we've been doing that
But in the meantime, what I did want to do
is I did want to take the time tonight to
announce where we're gonna go in week number five. Now,

(13:35):
if you have looked at the schedule, you know this
may be the most loaded week of the season. I
don't want to speak out of turn, but this may
be the most loaded week of the season. The noon
window has some monster games. The three point thirty window
has some monster games. The night window of always has
monster games. This is the week, by the way, that
Oregon and Penn State and Alabama Georgia kickoff at the

(13:58):
same time. This is the week that LSU goes to
Ole Miss, which would have been slam dunk like no debate,
the biggest game of the day yesterday, and it's gonna
be undercard status at best. We've got so many big games,
so as you know, these days, we are blessed with

(14:18):
the opportunity to do multiple games in the same day.
There's no way I'm not taking advantage of that this week.
So we're gonna do an early game, We're gonna do
a late game. The question is, well, how do we
split it up. Well, I'll tell you how We're gonna
split it up. I've never seen USC play a football
game in person. That drought ends this Saturday. I have
never been to the University of Illinois. That drought ends

(14:40):
this Saturday. We will begin our day in Champagne, Illinois.
Cowhard is going to be there. I think he told
me last week. So USC at Illinois, and then we
will hop down to Athens, GA primetime kickoff Alabama versus Georgia.
Champagne Athens, back to Nashville sometime later that night or
early the next morning. Gonna be a monster, monster week.

(15:03):
Wi FI on the plane has never been more mandatory
than it is this week. I am looking so forward
to this. Somewhere out there, one or two of our
brothers are being dragged to a wedding this Saturday. And
I want you to say or I want you to know.
Don't say anything. It's too late to say anything. I
want you to know. You're in our thoughts, You're in

(15:25):
our prayers. But this is your fault. I don't I
feel bad you say you're having fall wedding problems. I
feel bad for you. Son. Finish it, Bradley, I can't
do it. Finish it. Okay, Let's continue Oklahoma Auburn was

(15:51):
a disaster yesterday, not the outcome. Hey, we picked Oklahoma
to win and cover, and how in the world did
we get that safety late? I'll never know. That's the
least of anyone's worries when it comes to this game,
proudly presented by Academy Sports and Outdoors. We give this
game two and a half chali for a close game.
It was very oh as me mom would say, herky jerky.

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So I know what everyone wants to talk about, and
it's officiating. I feel you, as the future commissioner of
this sport, I will clean this up, but I can't tonight.
But what I can do is tell you I acknowledge
that officiating was an unmitigated disaster in this game, to
the point where I am going to talk about it

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in its own segment later in this show. So if
you're watching this individual video on YouTube, first off, please
watch the entire show. But even if you don't go
back to the channel, you'll probably find an individual video
just about officiating. That's how bad officiating was in this game.
So I do want to talk about the game itself.
I do have a padlock stat for the game. Okay,
padlock stats. For those of you who are new around here,

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and there are tens of thousands of you who are new, welcome.
Padlock stats the kind of thing where if someone told
me this on Friday, I think I would know how
the game was going to go. So there were a
combined sixteen drives in this game of fifteen yards or less.
We call that under fuel in the betting world. There
were ten three and outs. We also call that under

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fuel in the betting world. But if you want the
padlock stat as far as a team goes, I've got
one for the University of Oklahoma. When you sacked the
opposing quarterback ten times, things go pretty well for you.
Fourteen tackles for loss. There are only forty six teams
with that mini sacks the entire season. Oklahoma, I want

(17:43):
to repeat for those in the back, or for those
driving around tomorrow morning. Maybe you're driving a bush route
FedEx trucks a little loud, you're at an intersection. You
didn't quite hear what I said. Oklahoma had more sacks
yesterday than what was it, Jesse, Like one hundred and
something teams or eighty something teams have had, ninety teams
have had all year and that was a very, very

(18:04):
not fun day for Jackson Arnold and his homecoming. This
is an elite defense that Oklahoma has. I remember preseason,
I was all excited about John Matteer and I was saying,
I think he's gonna win the Heigs when I think
Oklahoma they could challenge for a playoff spot even with
this tough schedule, they could challenge for a trip to Atlanta,
even with this tough schedule. And remember I kept saying,
I just need him, conservatively to be a top twenty defense.

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Well I've got that and then some and that I
think was on display for most of the world to
see yesterday and in the Michigan game. But the other
thing that I kept coming back to is even when
John Matteer's stat line does not blow you away, he's
a winner. I don't know how else to say it.
He's just a winner. I used to feel this way

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about Jalen Hurts, who ended up getting benched in college football,
but then came off the bench to win an SEC championship,
went to Oklahoma and did big things. I'm told he
won a Super Bowl last year. A little out of
my purview, but I used to think when all else failed.
When I was predicting a game with Bama or Oklahoma,
when Jalen Hurts was there, I just thought he was

(19:07):
such a winner that a core part of my prediction
is they've got Jalen Hurts on that team, it's hard
to beat him. I kind of think that way about
John Mattire. It's hard to beat John mattere to where
if it's fifty two forty eight, fifty one, forty nine
in my head either way, that will put me over
the fence to the other side. The quarterback profile in

(19:30):
this game played out about like we expected it to.
If you remember the preview video, this was always going
to be an uphill battle for Jackson Arnold. I was
never convinced that he was going to win this game
running the ball. He beat Baylor running the ball. He
was never gonna beat Brent Vnables. I didn't think Auburn
was gonna beat Brent Venables running the ball, and they didn't.
I also didn't think we could trust him throwing the

(19:50):
ball over the middle. And you know what, he ripped
one over the middle yesterday and I watched it and I said,
good for him, man. And then I watched one basically
hit a defender in then a few plays later I
think it may have been the same drive and I
was like, oh yeah, I remember now. But he had
no time. This is not a Jackson Arnold loss at all.
It's not a Jackson Arnold bashed fest at all. The

(20:13):
guy just had no time. But even when he did,
I'm not going to completely just trash that offensive line.
Although Oklahoma did thoroughly enough yesterday, there were other times dude,
Jackson Owl was just standing there first read not open frozen.
And that's not surprising when you consider some of his
issues last year. How hard it is to develop a

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quarterback period in this game right now, unless you're you know,
Kurt Signetty, in which case, whoever plays for he was
just a star lane Kiffin. My starter's hurt, my backup
is probably gonna take my starter's job. Oh, by the way,
he played at Farris State last year. Now, those are
the exceptions to the rule. The general rule is this
is not supposed to be easy. Oklahoma limited the explosive plays,

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and everything else aside from one or two was either
down around the line of scrimmage or it will a
jump ball to an alien cam Coleman. That was Auburn's route,
and you know what, they actually were in the game
using that route. But it was never gonna be conventional,
It was never gonna be pretty. There was never gonna
be really any rhythmic nature to the offensive effort. Auburn's

(21:15):
profile is not that. Their quarterback profile is not that.
Right now, Oklahoma got the job done again. I know
a million different people have a million different takes about
the officiating in this game. As I told you and
I'll tell you again, it is so bad. You're so
right about it. I'm gonna give it its own segment
later in the show. But as for Oklahoma, man, they
needed this so bad now. Offensively, there are still concerns

(21:40):
with this team mateir is their best rusher in big
games right now. I'm not sure what the Jaden Ought
experiment is or whether it's over, or what's gonna happen
with that. I don't know, but their tailbacks are still
under three point five yards per carry. I had an
ou buddy that hit me up and said, hey, we
lose this game the last few years. You know what,

(22:01):
Maybe that's all that needed to be said about last night.
He's right, he's right. Last few years under Venables, in
that kind of game, they'd find a way to lose it.
He's right, and they didn't because they had the best
player on the field happens to be their quarterback. Got
some pretty darn good players on defense too. It's going
to be a gut check week for Auburn because this

(22:22):
was the week where they went on the road to Oklahoma.
Remember Texas, A and m' is just sitting in college
station waiting for him. I think A and M was
on a by yesterday. And so not only is it
a back to back road stretch for Auburn, they go
play a rested team in their building, which again is
ludicrous from a schedule making perspective. But I don't do

(22:45):
the schedules yet. When I do, we'll be okay. But
I don't do him yet. Now they're playing an A
and M defense that seems to be more vulnerable, seems
to be more vulnerable than Oklahoma. You cannot let this
loss by you twice because they leave their feeling that
they got robbed. Whether you agree with that or not,
I guarantee you that's how they left their feeling. It's

(23:08):
a terrible scheduling break there. I think a seven and
a half point dog something around a touchdown on the
road at A and M. It's a gut check time.
It is not gonna get any easier. I mean, they've
still got Georgia coming up, they still got Bama coming up,
They've got all those games still coming up. So it's
not gonna get any easier. But congrats to Oklahoma. I
do agree with my OU buddy. They would have lost

(23:30):
that game last year. Now, those were the two they
had to have, all right. So remember that that wild
prediction we had in the preseason where OU was gonna
be undefeated facing a one or two lost Texas team
in the Red River shootout known by no other name
on this show. Well, OU is gonna be undefeated. Now
we gotta find out about Texas. I think OU is

(23:50):
gonna be undefeated. I think all right, let's continue, let's
talk about the game I was that yesterday, Bradley. I
am taking a sip of water right quick, even though
I'm taking it out of a full jug. Thank you,
thank you. Nope, I can't name. I can't name who
I want to think for this because they haven't paid
to be thanked on air. It's publics. Though Michigan beat

(24:17):
Nebraska allegedly it was a close game thirty to twenty seven,
it was not a close game. I give this game
threechily on the one to five scale. There was a
Hail Mary at halftime yesterday. So anytime you get that
in a game, happen right in front of us. Anytime
we can get that in a game that's entertaining. It
was close. It was a very very raucous environment there

(24:38):
at Memorial Stadium. This is their twenty eight straight loss
versus a ranked team. Just not great. Here's some of
the scenes that we took in yesterday. We were on
the sideline all day. I can't keep doing this, guys.
I can keep doing that. I can go on the
road until the end of time. It's just that I've
got something wrong with me. And in the interest of

(25:02):
sharing intimate details of our personal lives with each other,
I want to tell you I got a Michigan problem
in my life. I keep picking against them, and I
don't know why. Some people say it's bias. I got
nothing against Michigan. I was in Michigan's locker room after
the win yesterday. I got nothing against Michigan. I promise
you that. Could the model be anti Michigan. Maybe, but

(25:25):
I divorced myself from the model all the time. Famously,
the model would pick Texas against the Chiefs if they
played tomorrow. So I don't. The Model's not the end
all be all in my mind. But I keep looking
at Michigan in this proven physicality, athletic profile that team has,
even in a non vintage year, playing against the team
that hasn't proven anything, and I pick against them again

(25:49):
and they thoroughly proved me wrong again, and I'm left
walking out of another building shaking my head. You got
to understand a lot of folks at Michigan watch the show.
I appreciate them, a lot of the coaches, a lot
of the players. And I go in the locker room
yesterday and they just look at me, and some of
them just shake their head, but others just ask like,

(26:11):
what's wrong? Why? How could you not see this coming?
I don't know. I didn't even say anything back. What
can I say? I don't know. I cannot believe the
score was this close. Really, Look, all due respect to
Nebraska and the immense respect for the program Matt Rule
that the fun we had, we were treated like royalty

(26:34):
up there. Oh. I appreciate that until the end of time.
But the play on the field yesterday has to stand
on its own, and I cannot believe the play on
the field dictated a score that was this close. They
were trying to execute an on sidekick minute minute and
a half left, and I was sitting there telling anyone
who could listen, how are we even in a position

(26:55):
with how thoroughly Michigan feels like they have steamrolled them.
This game's even still up in the air, and as
it turned out, Michigan recovers game over. But they were
ripping off explosive runs left and right. It turns out
if they just keep doing that, it's not an exception
to the rule. See. I watched Michigan rip off explosive
touchdown runs in a game I think against like New Mexico,

(27:18):
and then I remember saying, well, if they don't do
that against Oklahoma, it's gonna be a problem. Well, they
did lose to Oklahoma, but even in that game, they
ripped more off And then they've done it every week since,
and they did it yesterday. They had seven carries in
this game, not total, but seven of their carries yielded
two twenty one and three touchdowns on the ground. Their

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longest passing play was sixteen yards. It didn't even matter
Underwood threw the ball because he kind of felt like
it every now and then didn't really even need to
in man when he got in the open field. You
remember when I don't want to do this, I'm gonna
do it whatever. There are no standards around here. You
remember when Cam got to Auburn, they played LSU early

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in the year, and he pulled away from a guy
named Patrick Peterson in LSU's secondary. There were no Patrick
Peterson's Patrick Peter iye on the field yesterday for Nebraska.
But the way Bryce Underwood hit that different gear when
he got an open field reminded me of how it
put my jaw on the ground when I first saw
Cam Newton just turn it loose in the open field

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early in that twenty ten season at Auburn. That is
where I will end the comparison because that's not fair.
But just a little moment in time versus moment in time,
that's what I thought. It was a big time competitive
character sort of check from Michigan, and spoiler alert, they
still got it. They go into the half tide and

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there's some very very questionable decision making. Sharon Moore's not
even there, so they don't even have their head coach there.
Probably bit them when it came to game management, clock management.
They give Nebraska an opportunity to call time out with
one second to go. Ry Ola heaves the ball to
the end zone. Of course it's not played. It is
played right by Nebraska, touchdown seventeen. All going into the

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half unbelievable. I mean, we went off the field. I
was there with Will and Taylor and all the guys
from Busting with the boys. We all go off the
field up Nebraska's tunnel couldn't be more jacked. I was
not around Michigan at the half, but I have since
gotten several testimonials as to what was said over on
the Michigan side, what the attitude was like over on

(29:26):
the Michigan side, And the attitude was basically like, all right,
let's hydrate up, grab an uncrustable if you want strawberry grape,
I don't care. Just make sure you understand you just
took a sledgehammer to their face for two quarters. If
you do it for another two quarters, the result won't
be in doubt, and they did because sure enough, this

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is what good programs do. I didn't say team for
a reason. This is a program thing with Michigan. It's
a multi year it's an identity, it's a program thing.
They come out and Nebraska in the second half zero
rushing yards, Michigan retakes the lead by ten, and they
kept home field edge at Bay At the Stadium didn't

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really matter a whole lot in the second half, not
that it wasn't loud, it just it never really reached
full throat because they never really had a reason to
in the second half. And I don't know that people
fully understand what kind of psychological toll that takes on
the other side when you have fought and you've crawled
over broken glass to find a way somehow to tie
that thing and immediately it's a two possession game again

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in your home building. In the second half. Yeah, it
was trying to plug thirteen holes with ten fingers all
day for Nebraska, and namely at offensive tackle, they were powerless.
It was just brute force. There's not really a play
that you can run. To be honest with you, Dylan Ryola,
I don't know where he found three hundred and eight
passing yards, and that's even accounting for the hail Mary.

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I don't remember three hundred eight yards through the air,
but he had three oh eight through the air, forty one,
three touchdowns on a pick, and they had one point
four yards per carry. So they were not running the ball.
Now that is sack adjusted, but they were not running
the ball effectively at all. I mean, Ryola, Look, you
can pick apart his performance if you want to. I

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don't know many quarterbacks that thrive in that kind of setting.
His offensive tackles were in his lap all day. There
were defenders meeting at his position on the field all day.
I don't really know many people who are gonna thrive
in that environment. They're just not ready at the line
of scrimmage, which I guess I should have I should
have been more aware of about Nebraska. I guess I hoped,

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though I did let a little hope creep in in
Shawshank redemption. When Red says hope is a dangerous thing,
he's wrong. But in college football, hope can be a
dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man to pick very
very insane outcomes on games that he has no business picking,
and I hoped my way into a corner and then

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Michigan just off me in the locker again. I hate it.
I hate admitting it, but I do have a new
strategy with Michigan, and that is to just ride with
them until they predict, until they prove me wrong by losing.
Michigan needs to prove me wrong by losing, so I learned.
I learned a valuable lesson. Again yesterday some people said, oh,

(32:20):
you'll pick USC over US in a few weeks. I'll
just leave the game out of the show if I
think USC is gonna win. I can't keep doing this
to myself. I have got some very toxic Michigan people
in my life that abused me via text message and
give meme and all that stuff after these games, and
I can't do that to myself anymore. Honestly, going in

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the locker room was preferable to what my own friends
allegedly said to me yesterday. The odds to win the
Big Ten Championship right now Ohio State one, Penn State two,
Oregon three, USC four, Michigan five. And it should be
noted there's a huge drop off after Oregon, USC and
Michigan basically had the same odds. Indiana is right there

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in that mix. So that's a picture in the big ten.
Right now, let's talk about our trip right quick to Lincoln.
I've still got a lot of show to get to,
so I'm not gonna spend a lot of time on this. Oh,
we had a good time. Our friends at Flyhouse came through.
As you can clearly see if you're listening on podcasts,
just picture a machine bigger than we have any business
being on. And our friends at Flyhouse came through big

(33:24):
time for us. Carbs are of no concern on those
kinds of aircraft, and they got us up there and
we had a great time and we were treated great.
I have never been there before. Everything they said about
Lincoln is true, everything they said about the people was true,
really good access. Just had a great time. I met
up with some of our old friends from CBS, did
some pregame work with them. We were everywhere, so I

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saw a good bit of that place. I think we
saw a really really charged game day environment. Didn't see
a win, but beggars can't be choosers there. But the
biggest blessing from our friends at Flyhouse is being back
in Nashville by nine that night, and that's without even
being in a hurry. So it was an awesome trip.
I am very hopeful to get up there again and
to be able to see like one of those moments,

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one of those Berlin Wall type moments, And the only
thing I can equate it to is like Tennessee. I
was at Tennessee when they finally took down Alabama and
the feeling of euphoria and the feeling of just finally
and the pouring out of emotion from an entire fan base.
It's amazing. You rarely get to see that, but when

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you do get to see it, Like if I'm ever
at Nebraska and they take down Ohio State or they
take down Michigan or someone like that, that would be
an amazing site. I can tell it would be. Boy,
you want to talk about an amazing site. Though there
was one yesterday. Well it was something Miami just did
some terrible, terrible things to Florida last night. Twenty six

(34:53):
to seven was the final, and that's with a touchdown
that was basically called back just a sympathy whistle, if
you will, from the officiating crew there for Florida SEC
officiating crew mind you. I give this game one and
a half chatly, which is great news for Mario Cristobal
because in his ideal world, his dream scenario is to
play the most unwatchable, the most unwatchable game possible, just

(35:16):
the ugliest game possible, because that's beautiful to a guy
like him. I had a vivid flashback when I was
watching this game, not to football. It reminded me of something.
Any old school pro wrestling fans will know what I'm
talking about. Have you ever heard of a concept called
Brawl for All? Some of you know what I'm talking about.

(35:39):
Let me explain it to you in like a minute.
So back in the late nineties, pro wrestling is as
hot as it's ever been. Naturally, somebody in the creative
department said, hey, we should make them box each other.
Pro wrestlers box each other for real on live TV.
Why don't know, let's just do it anyway. And no
one shot the idea down, So they made up a tournament,

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the Brawl for All, in the summer of nineteen ninety eight.
I'm a very very little kid, very formative years, so
I think it's amazing. And so I've got guys that
i've watched perform for me my whole childhood, who are
now boxing each other for real, and it was terrible
and half their talent roster got hurt. But there was
one guy named bart Gunn who turned out to be

(36:23):
a pretty good boxer, turned out to be a phenomenal
boxer by pro wrestler boxing standards. So he buzz saws
his way to the finals, and then he knocks out
one of their big talents in the finals, and bart
Gunn is crowned champion of the tournament. Now, if that's
where it ended, it would just be a bad story.
It would just be a bad creative idea, and as

(36:44):
twenty five years later whatever. Unfortunately, that's not where it ended,
because the bright minds in the front office got the
idea that this guy looked so good boxing pro wrestlers,
maybe we should wait till the next spring at WrestleMania
and have him box an actual boxer. So they call
butter Bean and they have him show up in Philadelphia

(37:06):
at WrestleMania fifteen. Now butter Bean shows up to the event,
as the legend has it, and actively asks the creative team, Hey,
what do you guys want me to do? Like he's
a real boxer, okay, so he can kill people if
he wants to. So he shows up to a pro
wrestling event, sure that he's being paid to perform, and
they told him, no, no, we've got one of our

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guys as a good boxer. Look at that, Look how
chiseled he is. He's a good boxer. And Butterbean, in
no uncertain term, says, but you understand what's gonna happen
if I box him, right, box him for real? And
they're like, no, no, no, no, no, he's good. Trust us. He
won our tournament. So there it is. WrestleMania fifteen, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,

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first pay per view, my parents ever let me buy,
by the way, and almost almost at the end of
the first round after a knockdown, bart Gunn is knocked out,
very ugly. It derailed his career, gave him a concussion,
and he was never the same again. And the point is,
I bet there were people in the back who were

(38:09):
shot when bart Gunn got knocked out by Butterbeam, just
like I bet there were people at Florida who really thought,
from a physical standpoint, they were about to go down
to Miami last night. Maybe they don't win the game,
but we will go toe to toe physically with Miami.
They can't go toe to toe physically with Miami. Carson
Beck really only needed to throw if he felt like

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it in this game. This, my friends, was your Sarah
McLaughlin special. Yesterday. Miami had one hundred and eighty four
yards rushing and Florida had one hundred and forty one
yards total. Florida, believe it or not not a typo kids,
was oh of thirteen on third down. I have here

(38:54):
for the second week in row. Florida's drive chart three
and out, three and out, punt, three and out, three
and out, three and out, touchdown, turnover on downs, three
and out, turnover on downs, turnover on downs. Florida had
thirty two yards in the first half. We counted every
one of them. This is their worst start since nineteen

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eighty six. Officials at one point took a Miami touchdown
off the board basically because they blew what I can
only describe as a sympathy whistle where there was a
mauling happening and there's a pile still moving forward and
some official, just out of the kindness of their heart
blows the whistle like at the end of the day,

(39:38):
these are someone's kids, These kids in the Florida uniform, like,
that's someone's kid. I got to stop this. Well, no,
it'll stop when he crosses the goal line. So anyway,
if you think it was bad last night, it was.
Florida only has Texas and Texas A and m and
Georgia and Ole, miss and Tennessee and Florida State left, which,
if you've got your trustee ap Pole Handy, means the

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numbers ten, nine, five, thirteen, fifteen and eight teams in
the country for the second week in a row, an
unprecedented first redundant on this show. Florida Again. You're Sarah
McLaughlin special. So I got a sentence for you, and
it has to do with Miami. Miami won a game defensively.

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If you're new to college football, you may hear me
say that sentence and think big deal. Well, if you're new, welcome.
I'm glad you're here. Boy, Do I have some interesting
footage to show you of Miami football last year. If
you think it's no big deal for me to be
able to say Miami won a game defensively, as me

(40:43):
Maw would say, Miami couldn't stop molasses in December last year.
It was bad me and ten of you could have
moved the ball on Lance Gidgry's defense last year. And
now Corey Heatherman's in town, and an entirely reworked secondary
is in town, and there's this thing name Reuben Bain
and then he's got a Buddy Mesador on the other side.

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And if you haven't watched it yet, words will not
do it. Justice. Assault there is really the only word
I could use. But you just need to go watch
it for yourself. Make sure there are no kids in
the room, and then go watch this for yourself. You
just remove so much variance when you can play like this,

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when you just impose your will on someone, Think about
how little variance there is in the equation. If you
know you've got a bigger, better offensive line and you
can just lean on people, it's not a whole lot
of risk in that forty six carries for one hundred
and eighty four yards and three touchdowns. Mind you, this
is the best defense I think they'll see all year.
So now I'll speak on that in the second. That

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doesn't mean it's gonna be easy for the rest of
the year. I'll speak on that in the second and
maybe Florida State's got something to say about that. But
I think Florida is the best defense they'll see all year,
and they folded them like a chair in the end yesterday.
You just remove so much variance when you can play
this way. So there's gonna be a lot of hype
around Miami. There is no getting around that. There already

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kind of was, and now there really will be. And
there's gonna be a lot of mystery around them too.
They got the best odds twenty ACC by a fairly
wide margin. Right now, I think it's the best team
I've seen in college football this year. But two things. Firstly,
they go to Tallahassee, Florida in two weeks. Somehow, this

(42:32):
is a real sentence that's about to come out of
my mouth. Somehow, some way, in the year twenty twenty five,
the ACC has a team that is gonna play one
game in the next twenty days because Miami has a
bye this week, Then they play at Florida State, then
they have another buye, then they play the rest of
their season. Don't even ask, don't even ask. But anyway,

(42:53):
there's gonna be a lot of mystery. Keep the schedule
up for me, Bradley. So they go to Florida State
on October fourth, gonna be a massive game. Looks like
it's gonna be a top ten matchup if Florida State
gets by Virginia, and don't laugh because that's a single
digit spread. But if they get by them, that's a
top ten matchup. It's the most meaningful Miami Florida State
game in like a generation. After that. If you're listening

(43:15):
on podcasts Louisville, Stanford at SMU, Syracuse, NC State at
Virginia at PITT, I would venture to think Miami is
either a double digit favorite or close to it in
every one of those games. At SMU is the only
one I would possibly doubt there. If they stay healthy,

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they will be a big time favorite in all those games.
So who matches up? Nobody matches up. I don't know
that anybody matches up with a period on the line
of scrimmage. But that's not the question. Here's the problem here.
To me, the biggest challenge Miami will face is themselves
after that Florida State game. Their biggest challenges themselves because
here's what happens. You got an extremely talented team, the

(43:59):
potential to be a dominant team, but it's a bunch
of guys who have never been to the dance before.
Hardly anyone associated with this program has been to the dance,
and if they have, it's been with another program. Mario's
never done it as a head coach, these coordinators have
never done it as coordinators. Carson Beck has, Carson Beck's
played at that level. A lot of these players haven't.

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Here's the problem. When you've never been great, you don't
really have a proper scale in your mind to let
you know how great you are and the standard and
what it's supposed to look like. And when you play
great competition every week, that's a moot point because you
get to test yourself against it every week. They won't
play great competition every week. So you got a group

(44:41):
of folks who hadn't been there before and hadn't done
it before, and they'll be double digit favorites every week.
And what can happen is you can underachieve and still win.
You can let bad habits creep in and still win.
You can get lazy, you can get very very careless
with attention to detail, and really, your helmet's gonna win
a lot of those games. What it won't do is

(45:03):
beat Ohio State or Georgia or whoever, Penn State, whoever's
there when and if you make the playoff, and what
you end up having happen is you have this really,
really weird outcome. You can have this really weird result.
It's the cattle prode to your neck. And what you
find is you were talented enough to win, but you

(45:23):
didn't get You didn't win, You got beat, and you
got beat by someone who had razor sharp attention to
detail the whole year, maybe because their staff's just that good,
or maybe because their schedule mandated that they have that
all year, and you got loose down the stretch and
you never regained your form. That's the biggest threat to
Miami because they are the best team in that conference
by a wide margin. They may be the best team

(45:46):
in the country right now. They're the most capable team
I think in the country. Doesn't guarantee a thing, does
not guarantee a thing. What's the best I can do? Guys? Okay,
I assume that this is it for Billy Napier. I
assume that he will lose his job, which I hate
because I love billion Napier, but it is what it is.
It's bottom line business and he has not gotten the

(46:09):
job done there, and Florida deserves better. They invest to
the degree where they have, they have the right to
think they deserve better, and they're not getting it. Right now,
this is going to be a major story. These jobs
don't come open very often. We thought maybe it would
happen last year. It didn't. I just don't think you
avoid that trap door twice, so it sounds like an

(46:31):
inevitability that this is going to happen now. The thing
about that is okay when and that you'll get fifteen
different answers on if you ask fifteen different people. But
we are in the modern age, the age where your
roster can disintegrate if you fire a guy and then
hire another guy, and then those guys don't like that guy.

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So it's a very very different age. It's also the
age where money is real and it has to be
treated as such. It used to be it don't what's
his buyout? Forty million? Oh? Who cares? Well? You better care.
Now you got to treat that money like it should
be treated, because it has to be treated as real.
So you got to buy a guy out and buy
a staff out and then go pay a new staff
and that's a lot of money. Now maybe they want

(47:14):
it bad enough, but that's a lot of money. So yeah,
I think that's I think that's gonna happen. Unfortunately, well
it's fortunate if you want it to happen. I never
wanted to see it happen, so unfortunately for me, fortunately
for Florida fans, I think it'll happen. Sorry, Bradley, Yeah,
I'm done with that. College football officiating is a disaster.

(47:37):
It's been broken for a while. I know more about
Air Force one than I do the crew that officiated
Tulane Ole miss yesterday. There's no transparency in this whatsoever.
It is the most unnecessarily guarded aspect of sports that
I can think of. There are some there's some aspects
like a player's medical history. You need to guard that.

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How enforcement happens to an officiating crew when they mess
up a call in an SEC football game should not
be hidden behind like a vault lock and key thrown
in the ocean. It should never be like that, and
it is. And to be honest, when you watch games
like yesterday with Auburn Oklahoma. When you watch what happened

(48:22):
in that Miami versus Florida game, it may or may not,
in your mind change who won the game. You can
never prove that. The whole butterfly effect theory, you can
never prove that. But even if it doesn't, it almost
like it borders on criminality to me, I'm not joking
about that. When you think about the amount of money
and the stakes that ride on these games. Careers ride

(48:42):
on these games. People placing bets on these games rides
on this game. And to have the lack of transparency
and the utter disaster that the enforcement mechanism is from
a rules perspective in these games, sometimes it seems criminal.
And the problem is, I've never been a big conspiracy
theorist guy on this, Like I think officiating is just

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really hard and people are out there genuinely trying to
do a good job and sometimes they screw up, and
maybe if you screw up too much, you don't deserve
to be on that field anymore. But at the very least,
I've always thought we ought to get way more answers
on this, way more transparency than we do. And when
you don't get it. That is feeding oxygen to conspiracy theorists.

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So I got an Auburn buddy. I got an Auburn
buddy who swears the league office is out to get Auburn.
Do I believe that, No, not per se. But his
proof is Auburn getting the shaft from the officials in
a football game yesterday. Now, I personally still don't look
at that as this indisputable evidence that the league office

(49:48):
has it in for Auburn. However, here's the problem. I
don't have any counter. I don't know what to tell
him because the league doesn't tell us anything. And every
time you sit there and you hide behind these little
Twitter pr graphic edits that you put out hours later,
which means nothing. No one cares that you admit you

(50:08):
were wrong after you've already blown a game. Every time
this happens, every time we go further down this road
of lack of transparency, it provides oxygen two people like
my buddy who believe that Birmingham, Alabama is home to
the SEC League office who has it out for Auburn University.
What am I supposed to tell him? You don't tell

(50:28):
us anything. I have no clue what to tell him.
So here's what happened yesterday. If you're unfamiliar with what happened,
if you weren't watching the Auburn Oklahoma game. Isaac Satagna,
who is a really good receiver, really good portal edition
for Oklahoma. Of that, I am happy he used a
hideout tactic, which is basically acting like you're going off

(50:49):
the field, you're getting subbed out, and you just stop
and then you're still on the field and then they
throw a touchdown pass to him because of course no
one's covering him. And so there are some people watching
who knew nothing about the rules against that, and they thought, oh,
that's really smart by Oklahoma. There are other people watching
who knew, oh that's illegal, but hey, if you can
get away with it, get away with it whatever. I've

(51:09):
never been about that life, but whatever. Then there are
is a third group of people who don't think a
rule's broken, and then their world shattered when the SEC
comes out after the game with a very very quickly
put together statement that yeah, we screwed this up. And
then I had some OU fans trying to still argue, no,
there was nothing wrong with this, How can it be

(51:30):
a substitution in fraction when nobody subbed, How could it
be against the rules when he got the thumbs up
from the line judge. Because none of it matters. And
I've been on the phone with officials all afternoon, I
can promise you none of it matters. You've got an
entire subcategory of unsports unsportsman like conduct penalties, and the
specific subcategories that deal with this stuff called unfair tactics.

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And that's why in that unfair tactics nine two three
dos seven whatever rule, that's why they say it doesn't
even matter if players go on or off the field.
It doesn't matter if a substitution actually happens. The germ
of trying to fool someone on sub tactics could very
well be that you never intended anyone to come on
the field in the first place. So it's very obvious

(52:16):
a rule was broken here, and anyone who doesn't think so,
the league disagrees with you, and they've got all the
incentive in the world to not so that happens. Here's
what's wild. It's not wild that calls get blown every
now and then. Here's what's wild. It's so much worse
than you think it is. You would have your mind blown.
How many officials listen to this show and how many

(52:38):
of them reach out all the time. And rarely do
I walk into a building that a member of the
officiating crew, sometimes even the white hat doesn't come up
to me and talk about something they've heard us say
about officiating on the show and then feed us a
little information. And to their credit, it's always in the
interest of bettering their profession or holding their profession into account, cause,

(53:01):
contrary to popular belief, most of them are really good
at what they do. But they look around and say,
if the public had any idea how broken this process is,
and if the public had any idea how much of
a buying some of us are put in above me
on just the calls we make on the field, it
would blow their mind. It would it would blow your mind.

(53:21):
So college football billion dollar industry, Nickel and dime officiating
enforcement arm. College football sits here and prints money. Is
a billion dollar industry, and it's got a Nickel and
dime officiating arm, and it's never made sense. But it
only makes sense when you understand no one's really in charge.
Oh Josh, certainly they have superiors, Oh no, they do.

(53:44):
They do. You've got conference coordinators of officials who they
answering to Steve Shaw, what transparency has he given you?
So really, as just an observer of college football, maybe
even as a coach, what kind of transparency are you
really getting? Here's that's what's wild. What's really wild is
Hugh Freeze is sitting in his game yesterday and just

(54:05):
an egregious call goes against him. I kid you not.
I have spoken to officials today that say that's day
one clinic stuff, like even within their own world, it
was the talk of yesterday about how egregious a no
call that was and how much everyone should be fired
or punished on a spot on that crew for allowing

(54:26):
it to happen. Here's what's wild, though, call gets blown,
just an egregious miss by that crew in the Auburn
Oklahoma game, and then the SEC comes out afterwards and says, yeah,
we messed it up, and that's it. And what's crazy
is if Hugh Freeze goes to the podium afterwards and
does nothing more than tell the truth about what a

(54:47):
joke the process is right now I'm officiating, and the
lack of transparency He'll get fined and I'm sitting there
thinking to myself, yesterday, Hold up, So, Hugh Freeze's job
is on the line, pending he win foot games. You
can make a call that may cost him a game,
and all you got to do is say afterwards, oh,
we missed it. Hands clean. If you Freeze calls you out,

(55:13):
he owes you tens of thousands of dollars. Here's my question.
If your officials screw a game up and cost me
a win, and you come out and admit you cost me,
or at the very least you screwed up, why don't
you owe me money. Why doesn't the SEC oh Auburn
millions of dollars? Why doesn't it was an SEC crew
on the other game too. Why don't the SEC owe

(55:35):
Miami money. Why don't you have to come off your
hip pocket when you screw up? When people actually do
have to come off their hip pocket, when they accurately
call you out for screwing up. Well, that's because we've
got to protect the sanctity of the brand. You see,
We've got to maintain the clean image of this conference's shield.

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But no one actually cares about it that they care
about the integrity of the game. You're screwing up the integrity,
especially the competitive integrity of the game, when you're that
bad at officiating it. That's what we care about, that's
what fans care about, that's what coaches and players care about.
No one cares about your logo but you, and yet
that's where the focus is. That's also why we don't

(56:21):
ever get to hear from officials. We don't even get
a token pool reporter to go talk to officials most
times in college football games. No, you'll just take our
statements if we feel like ones required. Really, we don't
even have to do that, and that's it, And that's
all because we really don't have to answer to anyone.
There's no one overseeing this process. You know, if there

(56:43):
was transparency, people would realize how jacked up the process is.
And we can't have that. We can't let people know
how inconsistent the manual and mechanic symphasis is league to league.
And by that, I mean they emphasize something totally different
in the SEC than they do in the American than
they do in the Big Twelve then they do in
Conference USA. And you may think to yourself, but don't

(57:05):
some of these officials in out of conference games, officiate
games featuring teams from other conferences. Yes, yes, you're not
supposed to know all that. You're not supposed to know
how inconsistent that entire process is. You're not supposed to
know they emphasize something in one league and they don't
in the other league. You're not supposed to know that

(57:26):
maybe certain procedures are encouraged in one league, especially for
out of conference games, that may not even be encouraged
for league games. You're not supposed to know any of
that stuff. It kind of seems a little corrupt. You're
not really supposed to know that. You're not supposed to
know about agendas with crew placement, or how conference coordinators
of officials actually operate, and how some of them like
each other, how some of them hate each other, and

(57:47):
how it's tough to elevate one ladder even though that
means you've got no shot on another ladder. You're not
supposed to know that. You're not supposed to know that
because this is college football and we have to keep
we have to keep the veil of secrecy on some
like officiating off. But could you imagine, I mean, what
kind of state secrets, what kind of national security risk
it would be if fans of college football knew more

(58:09):
about the officiating mechanism of college football. It's a joke.
It is a joke, and it's a bigger mess, believe
it or not, than you probably even think it is.
And I know most of you guys think it's a
mess because I do too. Look, if you've ever worked
in a standard American corporate environment, take all the problems

(58:32):
you have in your workplace, and it's not too difficult
to imagine what kind of problems exist in this world.
When there's lack of accountability and there are little pockets
of power to be had, and it's really the only
authority any of these people are ever going to have
in life. It's not hard to imagine how it gets
a little twisted behind the scenes. It just so happens

(58:53):
that hundreds of millions of dollars are bet on this,
and they're not bet on what happens in your office.
Day to day. Careers are on the line, both coaches
and players when it comes to this, So a little
more transparency. I don't think it's the worst thing in
the world to ask for, Nor is a discount when
you want to buy tickets to go to games. I agree,
So that's why I went to seat Geek and I said,

(59:15):
excuse me, hello. They opened the door third not and
I said, are people need some money back? They said, okay.
So here's the deal. If you're going to a game
and there are a bunch of them to go to
this weekend. You want to go to Oxford this weekend,
you want to see LSU in town, go to seat Geek.
There will be tickets available. It's not going to be
the cheapest ticket in the world. People, it's a big game.

(59:35):
But what I can do is I can get you
ten percent off of your order, or if your order
is more than two hundred dollars, I'm just going to
get you twenty dollars off. You only need to use
code pat ten paate pat one zero. That's it. There's
no catch. You're gonna buy the tickets. It's gonna cost
you some money. Are it always was. I'm just gonna

(59:57):
get you a little discount on the end, pay ten
pat e ten. I've got some added takeaways from yesterday.
I know we're gonna hear from folks Jesse because I mean, honestly,
first off, my noseedges. Secondly, on one hand, I kind
of said too much in that officiating segment, but I

(01:00:19):
didn't because the process is a joke, and nobody in
that industry can call it out because they're afraid of
losing their job. Well, I couldn't care less what a
conference thinks about me, what the League office thinks about me,
or what a coordinator of league officiating thinks about me,
so I'll call it out. I don't care about burning sources.
They're not my sources. Those folks from the League office

(01:00:39):
don't really hit me up, so I don't really care,
So I'll call it out. Added takeaways from this weekend. Oh,
Indiana sixty three to ten. Huh, it was a splattering
in Bloomington. In fact, pres hit it. This was a
TVM A special. We can't even keep the normal lighting
in the studio. We just got to go blood red
for this one. This is a different Indiana team, pure

(01:01:02):
TVMA special sixty three to ten, five seventy nine to
one sixty one? Was the yardage edge here? Three twelve
to negative two? Is that true, Jesse? Or was it
three twenty to two? Oh? Illinois did get two, so
they did keep it above zero in the rushing statistics.
I do have a drive chart for you. Again, Women

(01:01:26):
and children probably leave the room for a second. No,
you know what, stay. You need to hear this because
I don't want you to fall victim like I did.
I picked Illinois. I don't want this to happen to
anyone else. So the kids, it's time for us to
have a talk. Kids, not that talk. No, this is
about Indiana football and what they do to you. Frankly,
whether you pick them or you don't. Punt touchdown, punt, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.

(01:01:50):
End of game. Illinois had seven three and outs. This
was terrible. This was assault. I took off yesterday and
this was a two score game. I landed and it
was sixty three to ten. It wasn't that long of
a flight, guys, So this was bad Indiana. You know,
it's funny how that Big ten schedule. Okay, Perez, it's

(01:02:11):
getting teary in here. It's funny had that schedule and
the Big ten's changing a little bit. You know. First off,
their quarterback now is the favorite to win the Heisman.
So Fernando Mendoza is now the favorite to win the Heisman.
Look at that, Jesse, you see Oregon. Oregon is the favorite,
either of the fourth favorite to win the Heisman right now.
I'm a big believer when we have typos in the show,

(01:02:33):
we just have to have fun with it because if
we don't, the comment section will call us out. So
they don't run or they don't chase. If you don't run,
what was I saying?

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Yeah, So the league schedule at the beginning of the
year had people saying Oregon, Oh, they play Penn State.
They got USC later, But I mean that's ten and two,
eleven and one. They don't really play anyone else. Yeah,
if Indiana is coming to your building or you're going
to their building, you are playing at least one other,

(01:03:01):
really really legit opponent. So Indiana goes to Oregon, they
go two Penn State later in the year. I didn't
watch Indiana at any point last year and think that
team is a danger if they make the playoffs. I
thought they were a good, solid story. I thought Signetti
was a revelation as a head coach. I thought there
was a very workable schedule where they could backdoor their

(01:03:23):
way into the playoff. But they'll get buried if they
face quality competition, and they did. I don't feel that
way about this team. I legitimately think this team could
do damage if they make the playoff. Now, they got
a tougher schedule, but they got a better team, they
got a better quarterback, I think. So that was scary
looking team, man, that was scary looking performance. Texas Tech

(01:03:43):
beat Utah thirty four to ten. And the edge here,
if Utah had one, remember, was supposed to be physicality.
Now we picked Texas Tech because I didn't think that
edge was going to be there. And Texas Tech ended
up hanging twenty four in the fourth quarter where their
backup quarterback. So this absolutely begins to separate the picture
a little bit in the Big Twelve. No, I'll tell

(01:04:05):
you what's funny is the things that you thought about
the Big Twelve. You know, top to bottom, it's so
competitively balanced and anyone could win it. What if we
start saying that about another conference this year, maybe one
of those Power twos, and maybe there's separation Because right
now Texas Tech is the solid odds favorite at FanDuel

(01:04:26):
to win the league. TCU's number two Arizona State, number three,
Iowa State number four. I think you saw the best
team in the league yesterday in Texas Tech, and I
think they're only going to get better. It's a bunch
of guys who were thrown together and so they're just
now playing together. They're just now getting their first few
games under their belt. They go to Houston, they got

(01:04:46):
a bye week. They go to Houston, they got Kansas,
and then they go to Arizona State on October eighteenth.
That's what I'm really looking forward to. Baron Morton not
expected to miss any time. Got a sore neck, I think,
but they got a bye week. Quarterback there, he'll be good.
Missouri twenty nine, South Carolina twenty and yes, Lenora Sellers
ends up playing this whole game and through for three

(01:05:08):
hundred yards somehow, And you may think to yourself, I
would think this. If I looked at that, I would say, oh,
good for Lenori's he's back. Yeah, Oh, that's not the
padlock stat. The padlock stat is two hundred and eighty
five to negative nine, because those were the rushing numbers
respectively in this game. The winning team, of course, Missouri

(01:05:29):
running it for two eighty five, holding South Carolina non
sac adjusted to negative nine rushing yards. Missouri was six
of six for twenty nine points in the red zone.
And two guys, by the way that you know in fairness, now,
we did talk about both these guys and our portal sleepers.
Ahmad Hardy the tailback I believe from Tulane or uelman

(01:05:50):
Roe right, Jesse twelve carries one hundred and thirty eight
yards in a touchdown, and Josiah Trotter was a linebacker
transfer eleven tackles for Law yesterday. So they just keep
quietly finding players there, and they lose players, and they
lose coaches, and they just backfill them. Eli Drinkwitz, you know,
one of these days, one of these days, he could

(01:06:11):
be a half decent coach. Memphis thirty two, Arkansas thirty one.
It can't be real. It can't be real. I watched
this outcome yesterday live on the field in Nebraska in
stunned disbelief. I just I some of you don't believe
in curses. Some of you are not superstitious. I'm not superstitious,

(01:06:34):
but I'm a little stitious because I've watched Arkansas football,
so I know something's got to be in play above
and beyond just the forces of nature that we can explain.
There's no way this amount of bad happens to good
people if curses are not real. Eighteen point lead topped
five hundred yards of total offense and they lost and

(01:06:57):
they're inside the ten I mean you imagine me, they're
down one point, they're inside the ten minute to go,
all their time outs where they're just gonna center the
ball up here right, No, they're gonna fumble it away.
I mean they didn't fumble it away against Air. Memphis
punched the ball out. So huge credit to Memphis. A
huge play there. You never know what that's gonna mean.

(01:07:18):
That can mean the difference in them making or not
making the playoff at the end of the year. Is
the G five team. Taylor Green made some bad decisions
in this game. Now they got Notre Dame this Saturday.
That's an eleven am local time kickoff in Fayetteville. Dare
I say wounded animal mode for both teams? Yes I do.
Dare say that Ole Miss just throttled Tulane yesterday. Ole

(01:07:41):
Miss slammed the door on any upset alert talk. We
had some upset alert talk. How do you not it's
John Sumral, It's too, Lane, you know goodwell, Old miss
has got LSU. The next week. It's a very very
high level G five team coming into your building. You
lost to Kentucky last year in a similar spot LSU.
Like I said, it's on deck and just never a
doubt in this game. Now, what we have is one

(01:08:04):
of the most overrated terms in college football brewing in Oxford,
and that is quarterback controversy. What's the controversy? They got
two really good quarterbacks. One of them's been hurt, so
the other ones come in. Austin Simmons been hurt, Trinidad
Chambliss comes in just lighting it up, because that's what
Lane Kiffin quarterbacks do. And I was told today that

(01:08:25):
there's a quarterback controversy there. I asked, what is the
controversy and they said, well, Trinidad Chambliss is playing really
good ball. Then there was a pause and I was like,
finish your sentence. There was like, no, no, that's the sentence.
He's playing really good. What do you do with Austin
Simmons when he comes back? And my answer was probably
play the one that gives you the best chance to win.

(01:08:45):
Are you telling me Lane has two guys he can
win with. Yeah, that's what I'm telling you. That's not
a controversy. That's depth, that's not controversial. Having multiple winners
guys you can win with in your quarterback room is
not controversial. Having none you can win with is controversial.
And just having a trot one out there every week
that's controversial. That's not fun. Elaine gets paid plenty enough

(01:09:09):
money to sweat the decision over which of his really
good quarterbacks he's gonna play. Also, it's nice to know
you don't have to rush a guy back who's injured
because his backup can win too. So yeah, that's not
a controversy to me. But this next thing could be.
The ap pole is out. It's become our least favorite pastime,

(01:09:31):
but one that we indulge in every Sunday night. We've
got movement. It makes no sense. I don't know why.
Let's just get right into it. So this is the
updated a peopole. Brigham Young is ranked at twenty five
TCU at twenty four. Illinois is in this thing still,
And last week I made it a point to talk
about Illinois and how they were too high and how

(01:09:53):
they were top ten even when like Georgia, Tech and
Vandy weren't, and Georgia Tech and Vandy clearly had better
resumes Illinois, but Illinois had been invited to the party preseason.
Now people misconstrued that and they were like, Illinois's not
a blue blood. They don't normally get benefit of the doubt.
I know. I didn't say they did. I said they've
been invited to the party this year because they have

(01:10:13):
the most magical stat in a sports writer's mind, which
is returning starters. They's got a bunch of returning starters.
That must mean they're thirty percent better than they were
last year. And they were pretty good last year. Oh oh
Bowl win, by the way, So let's put them in
the top fifteen. And then they kept getting rewarded, and
so they were top ten and they lost yesterday by
half a million. They're still ranked not because they have

(01:10:35):
a top twenty five resume, but because, well, we dropped
them fourteen spots. Maybe you should start from scratch every
week when you formulate your poll, so that you should
never have how far you're dropping a team in your mind.
Just stack teams based on who has the best resume. Again,
this is a bridge too far intellectually, for most of
the AP voters. Notre Dames at twenty two. Okay, USC

(01:10:59):
looked good last night, looked really good. I mean Lincoln Riley,
I regret to inform you has himself a really good
quarterback in Jade Mayava. They're up four spots to twenty one.
I have a theory. I was working on this with
some guys today. I think Jade Miyava is better at
quarterback for Lincoln Riley than Caleb Williams was. He may

(01:11:20):
not be the most talented quarterback he's ever had, but
he plays within the system, and I thought Caleb Williams
played wildly out of it all the time. And so
I don't have Lincoln Riley on the record having said this,
I don't need it. I guarantee it. He feels more
comfortable with my iva right now, who's rapidly progressing and
playing within the system and throwing the ball where it's

(01:11:42):
supposed to go and doing what he's supposed to do
and reading what he's supposed to read than a guy
with all world talent who just winged it. I'm not
interested in that. I don't think he is either Miami's
or Missouri Rather is at twenty. Miami is way higher
than that. Michigan's at nineteen. Vandy is at eighteen and
again obliterated someone yesterday. Vandy was favored by twenty eight.

(01:12:04):
They won by many, many more points than that. But
because it's Vandy again, you're gonna have to win like
five or six more big games, Markie opponents before we
crack the top fifteen with you, Vandy clearly has a
top fifteen resume. It's such a joke. They're not top fifteen.
Bama's seventeen whatever beat Wisconsin handily. I'm okay with it.

(01:12:26):
Georgia Tech should be way higher than sixteen. Again, just
a complete joke of a process. Georgia Tech's resume, Just
think about what it has now. I guess they're being
punished for Clemson losing again, which is understandable, But I
ask you, how do you know that Georgia Tech beating
Clemson initially didn't create a chain of events that led

(01:12:50):
to them losing again? Like, why would Georgia Tech get
punished for that? It's some why I've always believed in
baking the value of a win, and as the win happens,
and then rarely, if ever revisiting the value of that game.
But people disagree with me on that. So whatever, Tennessee's fifteen,
Iowa States fourteen, ole miss I'd probably have higher than thirteen,

(01:13:12):
but that's okay. Texas texts up five spots to twelve. Indiana. Look,
I can't blame anyone for having Indiana this high. I'd
have I will have Indiana top ten this week in
the Commissioner's poll. I don't know how you look at
them so far and think otherwise. They blasted Illinois yesterday,
but people are just overlooking that Old Dominion game. Oh

(01:13:33):
that Old Dominion game wasn't a blowout. Old Dominion's a
very good team and it was Week one and Indiana
ended up winning. They didn't cover, but that's not supposed
to matter. By the way, to an AP voter, Indiana's
top ten team, they got a You're not gonna tell
me they have a worse resume than Texas. There's just
no way. There is no way that you look at

(01:13:53):
the body of work. Texas has body of work. Indiana
has to say hook them. No way. Now, if you're
trying to project with this, if you're trying to predict
with this, if you're trying to do the whole who
would be favored on a neutral field thing. That's not
what this is for. That's what power ratings are for.
I know because I do those every Tuesday night, and
I will have Texas ahead of Indiana. Probably not by

(01:14:14):
a whole lot, but I'll have them ahead of Indiana.
They have no business being ahead of Indiana in a
merit based resume competition. And even if you think Texas
is going to go on to do big things, wait
till they do it. Wait till they do it. Because
you also thought they'd be the number one team in
the country. Most of you did, and now they're struggling
to stay in the top ten. So what you think,

(01:14:35):
respectfully doesn't really matter. What I think doesn't matter. What
I think will happen doesn't matter. This is as far
as I can tell this about what has happened. Right
A and M's number nine. Yeah, that checks out FSU
number eight, Okay, I don't Yeah, whatever, Old Oklahoma. I'm
a little upset with Florida State because they beat our

(01:14:58):
team yesterday. Kent State. We bet Kent State every week.
And I don't mind Mike and the guys winning. I
just did you have to run it up like that. Yes,
the answer as you did. Oklahoma's at seven, Yeah, no
problem with it. I don't have a problem with the
rest of them. Oregon's at six, Georgia five, LSU four,
Penn State three, Miami's at two, Ohio State's at one.

(01:15:20):
I will have Miami number one again this week. I
think they're the best team that I've seen so far
this year. However, if you are a believer that the
previous year's national champ, if they're any good, deserves to
hold on to number one until they lose, I can't
argue with it. I've never thought that last year should
be a basis for your resume this year. But if

(01:15:41):
you think that that's okay, now you're splitting hairs there.
But yeah, as for where Georgia Tech is, where Vandy is?
The fact that Illinois is still in this thing. I mean, guys,
Illinois lost by over half one hundred yesterday. What are
we doing right now? What in the world are we
doing right now? Mississippi State is still unranked? What are

(01:16:01):
we doing? Mississippi State is clearly one of the best
twenty five resumes in college football right now? But you
know what their great crime is. You know what they
did wrong. They woke up in Startville, Mississippi, Saturday morning.
They woke up with that hopefully the interlocking MSU on
their chest. That's their great crime. That Vanderbilt's great crime

(01:16:24):
is being Vanderbilt. That's the great crime. So you got
I don't know, you should have just woken up Texas Saturday.
Maybe you could have gotten benefit of the doubt. You
can go or to panduel right now and you can
look at odds to win these conferences because they are
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