Week 5 Reaction Show: Alabama & Oregon Roll + Pittman Fired & AP Poll Reaction

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
You ever think about how much stuff gets hyped up
in society and life and it fails to meet your expectations.
It disappoints you fantastically. It could be a movie, It
could be your sister. I don't know. Stuff disappoints you
all the time. Not college football, not yesterday. We're jam packed.
We're hi atop a fantastic downtown Nashville, Tennessee. It is

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Sunday night, September twenty eighth, the year more Lord, twenty
twenty five. We were at USC Illinois yesterday. We were
at Alabama Georgia last night. Two classics amongst many classics.
I've got game reactions. I've got a lot to talk about.
Sam Pittman has lost his job today, so we've got
a coaching search underway. Hoops doesn't have one underway. They

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got to hire a new coach. And Bobby Patrino's hat
is in the ring current by the way as of tonight.
As a seven pm Central Time on this Sunday night,
September twenty eighth, Bobby Patrino is the interim head coach
of the Arkansas razorbacks room room. The AP poll is
another disaster this week, which is an evergreen statement on

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this show on Sunday nights. But there's some especial I
would say egregiousness to this week's poll. We will discuss,
but not to start the show. It doesn't deserve that
kind of treatment. Officiating yesterday just flat out robbed wake
Forest and we are a wake Forest friendly program. So
I will I don't know, for like the fourth or

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fifth time this year, point out what has to be
pointed out, and no one else can do it apparently
because of conference affiliation and media rights deals and all
this stuff. Well we don't have any so we can
talk about it all that. Plus I got a tour
announcement tonight. We got best bets. The ro Manula Spress
started zero to four yesterday and just fought and clawed
back to a five hundred day. Now you may think

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five hundred that doesn't win money. That's true, but it
could have been much worse. So if we can go
bad week five hundreds, then we know our good week's coming.
We know we'll blow it up. Then we'll look back
and say I'm glad, we glad we were able to
salvage five hundred that week. We got a jam pack
show jam pack show. I know a lot of people
are here to listen to specific things tonight. We will

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not fail you. I don't know. Unless Bradley screws it up,
we'll see they're watching us in Lancaster, PA, Miami, Florida, Leander, Texas,
and Ringold, Georgia. Follow the Instagram story. It was loaded
yesterday at Josh Pat CFB. We were all over the place.
Man almost didn't get home last night, which is a
story that I'll tell for another day. I'll save it

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for another day. Alabama twenty four, Georgia twenty one. Man,
oh man, I wish, just wish you guys could have
been there. A lot of you were, many more of
you watched at home. Haven't seen the TV rating. I
assume like a trillion people watched this brought to you
by quick Trip. We got down their courtesy of Quick Trip.
I'm giving this game four and a half chali on

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the one to five scale. That was the number one
topic of conversation walking off the field last night. There
were players, coaches, staffers, stadium workers even who asked how
many chali will this game get? Look at that scene.
Who's got it better than us? In the history of

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human civilization. Who has it better than us on a
college football Saturday in the fall. I don't care if
you're a Georgia fan or not. I don't care if
you've ever been to Sandford Stadium. I would highly encourage
you to take in a Saturday night high level SEC
game at Sandford Stadium. Those people have done big things
with their in game presentation. By the way, just before

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I get to the game itself, because I was mildly
to moderately critical of Georgia game day operations for a while,
not anymore. I've said this for a few years now. Man,
they know what they're doing. They just if you don't know,
and you're maybe in that line of work, go to
a Georgia game. They really really know what they're doing there.
And they also found a way to get the rain

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out of there. There was a rainbow over the field
before the game. Again just fairytale college football stuff. So
the longest home winning streak in the country is snapped.
Pre COVID. Pre COVID that was the last time someone
had come into Sanford Stadium and beaten Georgia, and it
was William Muschamp of all people, who I'm told was

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at the game last night. So we go into this game,
we predicted it last week. You'll remember I used the
phrase competitive character a lot about Alabama. I did it
after the Florida State game, and I continued to do
it even as they beat Uel Monroe and they beat Wisconsin,
because I didn't care about ul Monroe and Wisconsin. Not
that those games didn't matter, but it wasn't going to
prove anything was back about Alabama. It wasn't going to

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prove anything was definitively solved about problems Alabama had. The
Georgia game was going to be that Georgia game happened
last night. I thought Alabama had a number of matchup
advantages in this game, but going into it, I picked Georgia.
I picked them because I thought the road would shake
Alabama because I've seen it do it several times. I
thought their offensive line would be a mess last night

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because I've seen it happen before. I thought there'd be
penalties all over the place because there were, or turnovers,
because there were in the Oklahoma game, Vandy game, FSU
game this year. None of it. That's competitive character. I
don't regret saying anything I said about Alabama. They just
rectified it. So the first thing I want to tell

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you is Alabama felt a lot different last night. I'm
around them a fair amount. So there is a reason
you get paid a whole lot of money. Now. Players
get paid a lot of money these days as well,
but coaches get paid a whole lot of money and
they always have. And this is where it shows up.
Alabama's just different now. I don't know if they needed
to taste their own blood. I don't know if they

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needed to have their competitive character called into question. Whatever
it was, it worked, it worked. They just fundamentally feel different.
Been around them a while, they feel different. They handled
last night differently. They showed up in warmups, just felt different.
Been around them long enough to know felt different. Obviously,
if you watched the game, it looked different. They had
one false start the whole night. The place was insane.

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I couldn't hear the people next to me talking to me.
And they're not only one false start the whole night. Operationally,
they went in there like they were working in the
indoor facility. The offense opened with two fourteen play drives,
up fourteen to nothing. It's the classic here we go again,
which is eternal now just evergreen for Georgia fans when

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they play Alabama. You don't believe in ghosts, you don't
believe in goblins, you don't believe any of that stuff,
but you believe in Alabama. If you're a Georgia fan,
it's got to be a nightmare because it doesn't even
matter how good you've looked. When they're across the field
from you, fifty three and a third yards away, there
are those Crimson helmets. Here we go again, and it
happened again last night thirteen of nineteen on third down.

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Let's just talk about this for a second. All the
stuff that was vintage Alabama under Nick Saban and in
the early portions of the Kaitlin de Bor tenure as
well as the latter portions of the Nick Saban tenure,
had started to wane a little bit. Just Re sledgehammered
you to the face last night, thirteen of nineteen on
third down. That is the most third down conversions Georgia

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has allowed in thirty seasons. Home or away, I don't care.
That's the most they've allowed in thirty seasons. Debor and
Grubb just put on a clinic and I got to
tell you, I'm on the field for this game. It
was a night game, so a lot of staffs you know,
around the country had already had their games that day.
Everyone's watching. These are some of the coaching matchups everyone

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in the coaching industry is fascinated by, They're interested in.
They talk about it all week amongst themselves. I kid
you not, during the game, I am getting text from
other coaches random cross the country talking about Ryan Grubb
just putting Kirby in his staff in a blender, not
in like a demeaning way or anything like that. I

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just mean not to whiteboard you, because I'm not about
to do that because I'm not qualified for it, but
just other coaches watching in real time and pointing out
little nuances, little intricacies, little things here and there. Look
at this bunch set, Look at this motion, Watch the check,
Watch what Kirby's defense does, Look at their sideline. Look
how crazy this drives them. And it was an all

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night thing. So again, it's just the worst case scenario
if you're Georgia, because you had to deal with Saban
for a long time. But the whole SEC had to
deal with Saban for a long time. So once he's
out of there. It can't get any worse. And then
they bring in a guy who has terrorized Dan Lanning,

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who came from your coaching tree and beating them three
times I think it was. And then he comes in
and is up twenty eight to nothing on you the
first time he faces you last year, and then he
goes immediately into your building and does the same thing again.
And it's worst case scenario because what was supposed to
be like a new era post Nick Salmon at Alabama
is still giving you nightmares. So Alabama goes on the

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road and they do that, and they have one false start,
which I thought was the most impressive part of the
entire evening. And that's even with ty Simpson's statline that
we're about to get to. They had fewer penalties than
their opponent for the first time under Kaylin Deboor. How
did Alabama look different, Josh, That's one way they look different.
That's atypical so far for them under him. Now the

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question becomes, what did we see last night? Well, we
saw Alabama beat Georgia. That's a big deal. Did we
see a turning of the page? Did we see the
beginning of a new trend. Well, you look back on
the Georgia game three and a half years from now
and say, you know, since the Georgia game, or maybe
the better way to put it is since the beginning
of the Alabama Georgia game, Alabama has done this, done that.

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It really felt like that to me. But I don't know,
because only time can tell. They control that, but only
time can tell. On that they had a seventy seven
to fifty three plays run edge. They just tilted the
game so quickly red zone, I would say, Jesse, I
would say, along with that third down number being thirteen
of nineteen, I would say four of four for twenty

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four points in the red zone while Georgia was two
of three for fourteen points is a pretty big deal.
They just I cannot in strong enough terms praise Ty
Simpson on this show for two reasons, the first of
which is he's hung around there forever. Dante Moore just
crushed Penn State last night. Well they didn't blow him out,

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but you know what I mean, just shined. And he's
a transfer guy. That's great. Carson Beck looks really good
at Miami. That's great. There is a special corner of
my heart for guys who commit to a school do
not eventure or do not ediately win the job, and
then they stick it out and then they get better
and better and better, and then their numbers called and

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they're probably not going to get four years to start
or three years to start, but they make the most
of the time they have. Well, that's ty Simpson. And
so then his season and really his career as a
starter begins the way it did at Florida State. It's
so easy to look back on this. It just rolls
off the tongue and then what happened, and then what happened.
But in real time, those days and those hours and

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those minutes, there was no way to speed them up,
and that had to be torturous for Kaylin to bor.
But hey, Dobor can be at Alabama an infinite amount
of years. You don't really get that. As a player,
you get a small window, and within that window you
get a few big moments. And ty Simpson's first big moment,
through no fault of his in my opinion, crashed and burned.

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And so then what'd they do? Well? He played about
as razor sharp as you could play. It's against Uelmenroe,
it's against Wisconsin. So we'll see when he goes on
the road do he Probably, all things considered, play better
than he played those previous two games against Georgia. And
there's something to be said about guys who are field generals.
You know, a stat line's one thing, but you've seen

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teams before where quarterback plays good, but it's not really
the nucleus of the team. Probably not even looked at
as a team leader. Normally. When they're good, they are
in an ideal world they are, but you never know
that dynamic if you're around Alabama. I think they showed
a lot of really good pregame b roll last night
that showed you that's a field general. And then his

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play has to back it up. It doesn't matter how
much you run your mouth if your play doesn't back
it up, because things just go in one ear and out.
The other guys roll their eyes not when you win,
not when you put them in a position to win,
When you put a receiver in position to win, when
you put offensive linemen in the best position to win,
When tailbacks know you under center gives them the best

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chance to win, all eyes are locked on you. You
can talk as long as you want to, and that's
where ty Simpson finds hisself now. He was sixteen of
twenty four for one hundred and ninety six yards and
two touchdowns just in the first half. And to be honest,
if you told me Friday that was his game line,
it wouldn't have really stood out to me all that much.

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I would have said that sounds about right. That was
his first half. Those first half touchdown drives to me
more than the numbers themselves. Watching him operate was amazing
from field level because I know that they crank those
mics up on TV. You can never appreciate how loud
that place was field level unless you were standing on

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the field last night. And I've watched them as a
just an offensive operation, get really shaken by that for
several trips on the road now and then there he
is out there, all the reason in the world to
be shaken. There they are as a team, all the
reason in the world to be shaken. And on that
first drive it was so crazy to watch from field level.

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I swear to you there are multiple plays on that
fourteen play drive. Choose which one right, There are two
of them right there. To start the game. I think
he checked in and I'd of like two different plays
and that clock's running down ten nine eight. It sounds
like multiple jet engines on a tarmac at Heartsfield. You
can't hear anything. And he did everything but yawn. It

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just looks like he's going through repetitions in the summer.
So calm, so at ease, and ball snapped with two seconds,
one second to go, firmly in control. Third down conversion,
third down conversion, third down conversion. A lot of those
throws are over the middle of the field. A lot
of them are in traffic. Can't say enough good things

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about him. As many passing first downs as Georgia had
total first downs. Can't say enough good things about him.
Just a complete field general. Ryan Willilliams dropped that probable
touchdown pass early. It's a thing he struggled with a
little bit more. I'll tell you one thing that got
overlooked a little bit that I think helps him a lot.

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I mean, he dropped that ball. He's wide open, he
has blistered that defense. He's wide open. Just drops it.
You fast forward to the fourth quarter and they throw
him a ball up the right sideline and he took
what is the equivalent of a pretty serious car crash
worth of a tackle and popped right back up. Ball

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never came out, and it's just moved the sticks first down.
From a mental standpoint, I look at stuff like that
and I say, dude, the normal person goes into a
complete shell. Even if they had Ryan Williams' physical ability
and they could get open, and they were playing major
college football in front of millions of people, already knowing

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they're talking a little bit about your inconsistency's catching the ball.
If you drop that ball, you were done. Mentally, Well,
he's not normal. Guys in that position aren't normal. And
to just watch that fourth quarter, you fast forward a
couple hours, fourth quarter, catch bam. Most people are being
carted off. Again, these are elite athletes, they're not most people.

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Just pops right back up, move the sticks first down,
don't even need the sub out. I think that's pretty important.
Just tuck that play away. I think that's pretty important.
So the Georgia side of all this, it can't be ignored.
I never really like getting caught up in this whole
Kirby Smart against Alabama thing, but you can't ignore it.
He's got an Alabama problem. They got an Alabama problem.

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Part one of the Bama problem was the same one
everyone had, and that was, man, they got Nick Saban.
He's gonna have the best roster in the country. And
even if we recruit heads up with him, we'll never
out recruit him. So the best we can hope to
do is compare rosters, maybe match rosters. But then they
still got Nick Saban. On game day, he'll still have

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a great staff. So that was always hard for I've reasons.
But Saban retired, you finally got one up on him.
It took to a National championship game for you to
do it, but you knocked that big domino down, and
that's a huge domino. That was part one of the
Bama problem. Then part two of the Bama problem is
they bring a guy in that just gives you fits. Schematically,
just gives you fits. And it's happened now a couple

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of times. And like I said, Debor's done it against
Dan Lanning. They really had no clue how to handle
him when he was at Washington and they were at Oregon.
That's a very similar defensive scheme for obvious reasons. That's
the tree landing came from. So it looks like that
Alabama problem is not going anywhere until you do something
about it. And I'm not really sure what you do
about it because these aren't blowouts. All of these are

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close games, competitive games. You believe a touchdown catch that's
dropped could be the difference here. Maybe if I had
it to do over again, I don't go for it.
On fourth and one. I kicked the field goal, I
tied the game. Who knows what happens. I'm just saying,
remember when they won their second national title in a row.

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This was twenty three or twenty two, whenever it was.
I got. I gotten a knock down drag out with
Georgia fans innocently because I said to a fan who
asked how many titles I thought Kirby would win, I said,
I don't know. This may be it for him, It
may be two. Most guys never win one, Like, how
do you know he's gonna just go on to win

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more titles? Which I thought was a fair take. Their
stance was he's just won his second title in a row,
and you think to yourself, all right, well, now there's
just this long runway. We can't even see the end
of the runway. He's gonna be here for another fifteen
plus years. We're gonna finish top three and recruiting every cycle.

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Saban's got to retire eventually, and sure enough he did.
What's gonna stop us? The sport will stop you because
it never stops adjusting to you. That's the price you
pay for being on top. It never stopped for Saban.
That was the price he paid for being on top.
The difference is he never relinquished the top spot. Now

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the game was changing, Saban didn't like the way it looked,
so he got out because his legacy was secured. Kirby
Smart's legacy will never be in doubt. The guys won
two national titles. He has built a total and complete
monster at Georgia. So if he retired today, he's a legend,
instant Hall of Famer. But my point then is the
same as it is now. The sport never stops changing.

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There are consequences that successful people have. There are consequences
successful programs have that failing programs never even know about.
They think it's just first world, no problems. You're on
the yacht. Who would ever cry on the yacht? Well,
what you find is you find everyone's got to cross
hairs on you when you're on top. And that's been

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Kirby and Georgia for a long time. And now it's
pretty obvious watching them in the portal era, in the
high level NIL era, they don't have the kind of
players in Miami had. They don't have the kind of
players a number of these programs have. Both of these
programs here, by the way, play nil sort of the
same way. And I understand it because I would play

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it like Kirby does. I would look at it and
I would say, there is immense value for the next
forty years of your life if you commit to play
football at the University of Georgia. You can't make every
difference maker feel that way. And you watch them defensively,
they don't have difference makers defensively, and a couple of
them they brought in, Eloma Doozi has been a non

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factor so far. I don't know why that is because
I think they felt good about him. I felt really
good about him. I thought they had hit a home
run and gotten a kid from Army and that was
going to be one of the talking points of the season.
It's just not there. They're in the one hundreds in
pressure rate, statistics, they still don't have a sack on
the season. I mean people accidentally sack the quarterback over

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the span of multiple four quarter games in their case,
couple of them against very inferior opponents. So I'm saying
all that to say his best rosters are behind him.
You can say that about everybody because the elite teams
are no longer going to stack talent like they used to,
which just means you've got to be able to beat

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guys on game day. You got to be able to
beat other staffs on game day. And my fundamental mild
concern for them when Dubor got to Alabama, as I
felt Alabama made a higher keenly aware of the direction
the sport was had in. By that, I mean they
understood Bama nor any other team in that league was

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ever going to have that insurmountable a talent edge on
the rest of the league anymore. NIL was not going
to allow it. The tops of the trees had been
shaved off, and you may still have an edge, but
it will not be this unequivocal edge. So you better
get a guy who can win games on game day.
You better get a staff that can beat other staffs.

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Ten times out of the year, and Alabama's got one
and they've put it on display against Georgia. I don't
think I'm saying anything they don't realize there. The difference
is I can say it consequence free in a microphone.
Kirby can't just snap his fingers in the middle of
a season and do something about that. I think they will.
They won't rest until they get it right there. They
may never get it right I don't know, but the

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days of just throwing that Georgia helmet out there and
understanding that gets us ten and a half wins per
season is gone. Still the best program in the country.
To me, I think the University of Georgia is the
best football program in the country. But that stuff last night,
that'll keep happening. As long as you can affect the quarterback,
that'll keep happening. And for all the talk about those

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difference makers, they got it wide receiver. It may be
that Gunner Stockton's talent profile limits what they can do
with those additions at receiver. So again, these are problems,
nitpicking problems that you would never point out with a
team that perennially goes seven and five or eight and four.

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This is Georgia. They're supposed to compete for a national championship.
So the one thing to remember is Bama got knocked
down in week one. So I was talking to someone
last night and I told them best thing to happen
to Bama, as it turns out, is losing that game
in week one. They said, how could that possibly be?

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Who wants to lose a game? No one wants to
lose a game. But if you're like me and you
believe no one's going undefeated anymore, then you understand the
losses have to come somewhere. So if the losses are inevitable,
then the next question is when are they gonna happen
and what are you going to learn from them? Alabama's
loss could not have been put to better use. Alabama

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lost to Florida State, and it looks like it completely
rewired everything about the team and maybe in some cases
things about that head coach, and in many cases things
about the entire organization. Because, man, they walked into that
building last night and they carried themselves a whole lot
different than Alabama at any point last year. It seemed
kind of familiar in years gone by, just the way

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they walked into a very hostile building and never blinked.
In fact, they took the fight to the tenant as
the visitor. So I've seen what it does to Alabama
to lose a game. What's it going to do to
Georgia to lose a game? Now they taste their own blood.
They were gonna lose, they weren't gonna go undefeated, so
they taste it. Now what week four they taste it?

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We're headed into week five, or we headed into week six,
whatever it is. Point being, I think that's one of
the best staffs in the country at responding because I
think the program mentally is wired in such a way
to respond. But it's not because they're magically going to
discover this vaunted pass rush that they used to have.
They don't have those players, so they're gonna have to

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find wins on the margins. They're gonna have to do
a lot of stuff that it's atypical to say that
Georgia has to do. But that's college football. Now, that's
it's watching Bama last night. Look at the way that
defense plays. They failed to set the edge multiple times.
I could run for fifteen yards around the corner where
Demani Jackson is there's a lot of stuff that looks incomplete.

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You gash them here, you gash them there, busted coverage
wide open for a touchdown. You're not suffocating people anymore.
It's just not happening. So you got to win on
the margins. That's what you have to do. And you're
gonna have to get comfortable about three or four times
a year. You're gonna have a dog fight, fourth quarter, late,
decided game on your hands, whereas it used to be

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up forty two to ten. And that's just the way
you got to do it. And if you're not comfortable
with that, you may not be cut out for this.
And that goes for coaches and that goes for players.
So I'm excited. I've seen what Bama did with the loss.
I'm excited to see what Georgia did with the loss.
But man, oh man, I don't care who wins and loses.
I care that as many of you as can possibly
make it happened to go down there and just watch

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a Saturday night game at Georgia. I cannot speak glowingly
enough about the entire game day operation there. Unbelievable. The
only thing that didn't go right for them last night
is the outcome because everything else was spot on, so
full credit. You know they have quick trip signage all
over that place. I don't know if this is the case.

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I just, off the top of my head think of
Sanford Stadium is the only place that I see quick
trip signage in the end zones and on the banners,
so you can obviously tell I feel very comfortable there,
and we appreciate quick Trip for fueling us yesterday all
the way from Champagne, Illinois to Athens, Georgia, back home
to Nashville. When did we get home? Present Like one thirty,

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one thirty something like that. Yeah, it was a late night,
but it was it was worthwhile, and oh you know
what we have to do. Man, it just dawned on me, Jesse.
I was about to skip right over this. Since it's
Sunday night, I have to announce where we're headed this week. Now. Now,
there was a lot of controversy I've been told about
where College Game Day announced that they were headed this week.

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College Game Day announced that they're headed to Tuscaloosa for
Alabama against Vanderbilt, a matchup that I believe should be
a top ten matchup. Unfortunately, AP voters continue to be
asleep at the wheel and have no earthly idea that
Vanderbilts even played games yet. So it's not going to
be a top twenty matchup or top ten matchup. It'll
be a top twenty. But I looked at that game,

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and truthfully, it would be easier for us to go
to Alabama because it's a drive. But it wouldn't be
right for us to go to Alabama. First off, because
we saw them twenty four hours ago. Secondly, because when
I was a youth, when I was a college football
youth and made a small youth. Now this has been
a while. Miami and Florida State was one of the

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best rivalries in sports, and it hasn't been for a
long time. And I watched what happened Friday night in Charlottesville, Virginia,
just like the rest of you did. All the more
reason for us to take the fall. Don't lie tour
to Tallahassee, Florida this Saturday night when Miami comes to town.
I haven't been to a game there in ten years.

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They have completely overhauled that place. They've remodeled it, they've
revamped it. The last big game they played there, they
beat Alabama convincingly. There will be a lot of folks
who forget everything they saw yesterday and swear Miami's about
to go in there and roll. And I don't think
that's going to be the case, obviously, and that's why

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I'm going to this game. So we will head to
Florida State for the first time I think in nine
or ten years. It was either fifteen or sixteen. Deshaun
Watson and Clemson went in there beat them thirty five
thirty one. I remember that and I had a lot
of fun. Then I got a ticket in Thomasville, Georgia
that night for going like thirty nine and a thirty five.
Thomasville is one of the most notorious speed traps in Georgia.

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Fortunately we will not have to drive through there courtesy
of quick Trip, but we're headed down there. Cannot wait.
Everyone has to make their own decisions and go to
the games they feel our best. That is the game
that I feel is best to go to this week. Okay, man,
I'm telling you, with any of the underrated parts, probably

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the only price you pay, aside from lack of sleep,
which I don't care about in the fall, going to
two games in one day. Is the voice suffers cause
you find that you have to yell to talk, especially
in that place we were in last night. So I'm
not complaining. I just want you to feel sorry for
me a little bit. Uh oh boy, Jesse Earmuff's Oregon

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thirty four pens or excuse me, here you go Bradley
Oregon thirty Penn State twenty four. This game recap generated
by flex Power, our friends at flex Power Oregon flexed powerfully.
I give this game for Chali on the one to
five scale, double overtime game just offensively, just esthetically, it's

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tough to watch Penn State's offense. I don't know that
Penn State's gonna be in many more five Chaldai classics
as long as they're doing what they're doing there. There
was talk for months. This is a beautiful thing about
college football. We talk and talk and talk. Fortunately that's allowed,
or else I wouldn't have a job. But you talk
about this stuff in January, but then you talk about

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it in March, and you know these things are coming
months months down the road. I mean you and I like,
if you're a Penn State fan, Oregon fan, college football fan,
you probably talked about the Oregon Penn State game a
thousand times over the course of the spring and summer.
The beautiful thing is all that talk leads to you
on the edge of your seat for four hours on

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a Saturday night in late September. Sounds like a country song.
It's so awesome. I can't over this. Also sounds like
a country song. I can't overstate how devastating last night
was for Penn State. We don't talk about the losers
first on the show, but I just want you to
know if you tuned in to hear my take on

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Penn State's loss, buddy, you will get my take on
Penn State's loss. Oregon is just better. The only thing
I doubted was this early in the season and all
the dynamics that were against them, could they come across
the country and win this game. And not only did
they win it, I know it went to double overtime,
but man, they controlled this game quarterback. They got the

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better one skill guys, they got the better ones staff,
they got the better one line of scrimmage. They won.
And I may have expected to say some of that
after this game. I never really expected to say all
of that and there's no added context needed. It's not
like the box score lies and there's some context. You know, Hey, hey,

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I know Oregon looks like the won this game, but
here's the way it really happened. There's none of that.
In fact, i'd say the box score lies the opposite way.
I didn't even feel like the game was that closed.
Like there's some numbers Penn State ended up putting up
and they are still pretty paltry, as Memal would say,
but I didn't even feel like they had that many
rushing yards. Like where did Penn State find one hundred

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and thirty nine rushing yards? I don't know. I have
no idea. They held Penn State to four yards per
carry in this game, and that was where Penn State
had to flex. They weren't really gonna flex throwing the ball.
I didn't even think in a Penn State win they
were going to truly flex three hundred and twenty five

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some mindy yards through the air anything like that. But man,
they just suffocated Penn State. It was tough to watch
if you're a Penn State fan, because you hoped in
the back of your mind you had held out hope
we played nobody so far. So yeah, Oregon's coming to town,
and we respect them, but they got to deal with
us too. They don't care. They dealt with you and

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they were fine. It's like taking your hand and putting
it on the head of your much younger brother and
if you're good with balance, you can afford to take
a sip of something and he's still over here, just fighting.
That's what it felt like. It's so discouraging to say
from a Penn State perspective, but it is so encouraging
because you know, if you're an organ fan, this is

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the beginning for you. Not only is it, it's not
quite the beginning of Dan Lanning's run. I'm just talking
about this team. This team is so inexperienced, they're so new.
They just got put together. It's not quite like they
went Texas Tech Mode or anything like that. I don't
mean that. I just mean Dante More is your new starter,
and you're supposed to have a dip by the way.

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You lose Dylan Gabriel before that, you lost bo Nix.
They're supposed to be a dip here somewhere, and it
feels like they keep increasing the level of quarterback play
and it's not supposed to happen that way, guys. In
case you need evidence, look at Penn State. There's no
guarantee that quarterback play just continues to elevate and elevate.
But I'll tell you the other thing that I took away.

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Lanning took a lot of heat a couple of years ago,
specifically in the first Washington game they played on the road,
where he went forward on some fourth downs, and everyone
was critical of him. Some guys say they don't care
about outside noise, and they're lying to you. Other guys
like Dan Lanning say they don't care about outside noise,
and I promise you he's telling you the truth. He

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didn't care about outside noise. He hears it, he just doesn't
value it. And the way I know that is because
after that little ordeal a couple of years ago, when
everyone drug him over the coals for going forward on
fourth down, even though every one of the critics had
the benefit of hindsight on their side, which you don't
get if you're coaching in game. They went for it

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on fourth down seven times last night and they got
five of them. Just a little old young Oregon traveling
almost to Europe to play basically five and seven on
fourth down. Yeah, that's how you control the game. It's
one way you control the game. This wasn't just one game.
It's time we talk about Penn State for a second

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before I get back to Oregon. I am among the
last to normally criticize James Franklin on the show, not
because he never deserves criticism, because the criticism is always
stupid to me, because people can't ever just individually critique compartments.
They always have to say James Franklin's trash, James Franklin's overrated,
this and that, and that's always been done, so I

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never really do that. And normally I am perfectly willing
and able to take a game for what it is
on this show, and that is one game. This was
not one game, and every Penn State fan knows it.
James Franklin knows it, and that entire staff and that
athletic department knows it. A lot of the future of
Penn State football, a lot of judgment about the trajectory

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of Penn State football was all predicated on this game.
The thinking was, of course, we've got a bye week,
we got home field here. They're pretty new, pretty young,
pretty inexperienced. They got to fly across country, they got
to come in our building. We're off the buy, they're not. Also,
we've built towards this team for multiple years. We got

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a third year starter. Now at quarterback, we went and
got the best defensive coordinator we could find in the
Big Ten, and you got all that and you just
kind of get handled at home point being it's the
same kind of conversation they're having at Clemson, how would
you ever expect it to get better? Given the current
set of circumstances, coaching staff, the way they go about

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their business, the way the programs run. This is the apex. Okay,
this collection of talent, this team was the pinnacle. And
if you're a Penn State fan, you were totally fine
looking towards this year predicated on the fact that you
win the Oregon game, and you gotta get that one

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done because the hurdles you have not been able to
clear is we don't win the big games, we can't
win a national title. Well, you can't win a national
title in September. You can lose one, you can't win
win in September. But the first hurdle was all right, well,
we gotta win the Oregon game, because if we got
all those edges and we can't even win that game,
there's no way we're going to Columbus in a couple
of months and win that game. And you didn't even

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get it done against Oregon, and I know the score
looks close. I'm normally the one who says, dude, stop speaking.
You know, in such terms of totality, the game went
to overtime, one play here or there, and it could
have been the difference. It should have been emphatic. This
should have been a moment in time for Penn State football.

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This should have been a moment of arrival for James
Franklin and his tenure there. It should have been a very,
very red letter day, and instead it was kind of
kind of a black Saturday. Season's not over. They'll probably
still make the playoff. But if you think in terms
of ever having hope that Penn State was about to
do more than Penn State has done, that's dead. That's

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just it feels dead. Why would I have faith? Why
would any Penn State fan have faith? See this is
the part where some of the criticism that you would
normally write off as insane is totally valid, totally valid.
No one up there can say that you haven't gotten
full buy in from the student body, from the fan base.
They had like five hundred thousand people there last night.

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Everyone's all in, everyone's willing to bank on this year,
be in the year, and it's just it was close.
That's about the best you can say. It was close. Again, well,
they've all been close, but they hadn't gotten pushed over
the finish line. The portal editions at wide receiver. We
were so excited about six receptions for sixty four yards

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and DeVante Ross was really most of that. And compare
that to how many easy completions will st got Dante Moore.
This is what hurts. This is what hurts because will
Stein got like a brand new quarterback dropped in his
lap every year, and he took his new quarterback across
the country and just put on a clinic in front

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of you. And then you've had your guy in the
building and you're intimately familiar with him and you know
everything about him, and he's run your system multiple years,
and it seemed like a struggle on par with watching
Jimbo Fisher offenses at Texas A and M where even
when a first down pass is completed, it feels like

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a fight. It feels like the entire world is pushing
against you, and it's such a sigh of relief just
to watch a running back full forward for six and
a half yards. Meanwhile, Will Stein is just up there
playing video games against you in your own building. Dante
Moore is launching a Heisman campaign against you in your
own building, and your guy's fourteen of twenty five, one

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hundred and thirty seven yards touchdowns and a pick. It
just should be so much better than that. There's no
excuse for it not to be at Penn State. So
this one's different. I'm not being hyperbolic because you guys
who watched the show and listen to the show, No,
I don't really do that. But I told you, and
they knew it. I mean, I've been up there in

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that building the past couple of months. They knew how
big this game was. I still had a little bit
of hope. I picked Penn State to win a game.
I had a little bit of hope in the back
of my mind maybe just maybe some of the lessons
I've learned in the history of this game apply here
and Penn State's looked very lethargic offensively so far. But
you know, maybe it is just a giant soda bottle

(40:40):
that's been shaken up and they're gonna twist that cap
against Oregon. It's flat. We opened it and it turns
out it's one of those commemorative coke bottles from nineteen
eighty two, and it's flat. That's Penn State football. That's
Penn State offense this year. There's just nothing there, nothing
more than we've seen before, maybe even less. I don't

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know how that's possible. I think that I think last
night's result began a new timeline for Penn State football.
And I have no idea which one it is, because
it could be that it began a trajectory that ends
with James Franklin not at Penn State anymore in like
three years or something like that. And I'm not saying fired.
I don't even know how it would happen. I'm speaking hypothetically.

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I'm just saying I could envision three years from now
Franklin's not there anymore. And the conversation is, you know,
this really began with that organ game a few years back.
Nothing was ever the same after that It could be that,
But I'll tell you what else it could be. It
could be that James Franklin looks himself in the mirror
and says exactly what I just said. That was as

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good as it's gonna get with my current way of
doing things here. Last night was the end of James
Franklin's Penn State one point zero, and tomorrow begins James
franklin Penn State two point oh. And there are only
so many changes you can make during the season. But
you never know, you know, if a loss like that,
you never know how much he had invested into that
particular game, So you never know how much that makes

(42:06):
him look in the mirror, and how much he commits
to correcting twenty degrees here and shifting five degrees there,
and getting rid of this staffer and adding a new
staffer and changing the way they do this, and that
you never know if three years from now you may
be looking at James Franklin playing for a national championship
and his quarterback and his offense are setting records, and
you're saying, this never happens. If Oregon doesn't come in

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and really prove a point for us. Three years ago,
I'm just saying one way or another. Last night began
a new timetable. It began a new timeline for Penn
State football. Of that, I am very confident. So Penn
State I feel differently. Oregon I feel differently because this
is not their ceiling. As bad as that sucks for

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the rest of the Big Ten to hear, last night's
not their ceiling. They don't know what it is yet.
I don't know what it is yet. That quarterback, that
offensive line. I mean, think about the moves they had
to make on offensive line, and they're watching those guys
work last night. Remember the Evan Stewart news, Remember how
Oregon boy, they lost their best receiver. What are they

(43:10):
gonna do? They're gonna play and they're gonna win because
it is as an organization, it's a program more than
a couple of individuals on a team. They're in ascension mode.
I know that. So I don't know how much better
that team can get, but I expect them to continue
to get better. Let's move along. Jam Pack show man,
just a jam pack show. Let me take a sip

(43:31):
of water. Bradley, you guys can check your phone for
a second. Okay, we're back. Ole Miss beat LSU last night.
Ole Miss twenty four, LSU nineteen. I would give it
three and a half childlife on the one to five scale.
This one got a little bit personal for me last week.

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So I'm gonna talk about ole Miss first, but i
want to mention something about LSU. I got nothing but
love for LSU. Of about ninety eight percent of the
LSU fan base, about two percent of the LSU fan
base are a bunch of clowns, and they ran their
mouth a lot last week, and then they got worked
pretty thoroughly yesterday. And the problems are very obvious, very obvious.

(44:14):
Lane Kiffin, did you a favor because finally that portion
of the LSU fan base that was just incapable of
acknowledging obvious flaws until they lost a game, Well they
finally lost a game yesterday, so now it's okay to
talk about all the flaws. So anyway, I'll get to
that in a second. Winners First, Ole Miss. I can't
believe this game was even within reach in the fourth quarter.

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They pretty thoroughly outplayed out coached LSU. I know a
lot of you, I think most of you probably watched
this game because it was the mid afternoon window. The
badlock stat in this one, which is the opposite of
a padlock stat. The badlock stat is Ole Miss had
fourteen penalties for one hundred and nine yards. Now, if
you told me that on Friday, I would say, congrats LSU,

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You're gonna go in there and win a game. In reality,
Ole Miss being so undisciplined is what kept LSU in
the game, so it ended up. That's not a badlock stat.
That's a bad luck stat. That would have folded me
on Friday. If you told me that teams are revealing
their identities right now and with Old Miss, no one
forecast this. I'm convinced seventy plus percent of the Old

(45:23):
Miss fan base did not know anything about Trinidad Chamblis
when this season started. They just they knew that Austin
Simmons is the new face of this team. In Austin
Simmons this, and Austin Simmons that, Hey, he's hurt, what
are we gonna do? Who's our backup? Trinidad Trinidad. Didn't
we travel there, didn't mom and dad go there from
their honeymoon? No, no, no, no, this is a player. Oh

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but he's from d two, he's from FCS. I heard
that a lot last week FCS quarterback and FCS quarterback
is going to beat LSU. Well, you know, kiffn just
went and got the player. He didn't import all of
Farris State to Oxford. So you didn't play an FCS team.

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You played a quarterback that was good enough to win
a national championship in FCS. And there's this general ignorance
because most people don't watch FCS football and that there
are no good players down there. There are no high
caliber like SEC Big ten caliber players there are there
are the transfers happened every single year. This one just
so happened to be at quarterback, and it wasn't for

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a starting role. It was to provide depth. But here's
the problem. The problem is Kiffin can get pretty good
production out of anyone. It seems Trinidad Chambliss included not
to disrespect him because what I just said is hyperbolic,
is not really true. It just seems that way, which
has got to be a gut punch. By the way,

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you know how bad Lane Kiffin makes the rest of
the country look. You know how bad Penn State looks
when they've had Drew Aler all these years and Kiffin
just goes and grabs a guy from Farris State. Oh,
my starter's hurt. I'll win with him. You know how
bad that makes Clemson look. When Caid Club Nick's been
there all this time and there was all this hooplase

(47:08):
me moll would say a couple of cycles ago, we
got Garrett Riley, We're gonna pair him with Caid Club Nick.
And Kiffin's like, I'll just go get a kid from
FCS and not even plan on starting him. Oh I've
got to start him, all right, We'll win anyway. Yeah, yeah,
it makes you look pretty bad. That also wears out
the patience for a lot of offensive staffs elsewhere across

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the country. So Lane Kiffin gets a lot of folks
in trouble. He's gotten himself in plenty of trouble over
the years. By the way, and I mentioned it Sunday Night,
I cannot recommend that documentary strongly enough. ESPN did a
really good job on that thing. I can't remember what
the title is. Ryan McGee did a good job on
it too, Friend of the program, Ryan McGee. So yeah,

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the many lives of Lane Kiffin, Thank you, Jesse. He
didn't say anything. I just remembered it. I would encourage
you to go watch that. So anyway, that's what's happening
Old Miss right now. The identity is forming. So there
are a lot of people around Old Miss who would
tell you next year, next year, Oh, this team's gonna
do something next year. Why obviously I'm saying that now

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that I know they beat LSU. I was very confident
they would beat LSU. Let me tell you something else
that was happening around the SEC last week around the Yeah, okay,
I'll share it because I already started to say it.
There were a lot of people around the SEC very
confident that Old Miss would handle LSU, and it was

(48:33):
because of a specific matchup. So yeah, I just always
want to be careful. I don't you guys who watched
the show long enough. No, I never burn anyone. I
never burned sourcing or you know, run my mouth about
stuff I've been told to be quiet about. No one
told me to be quiet about this, So let's just

(48:53):
talk about it. LSU's got problems. These weren't revealed yesterday.
LSU's had problems all see, and probably one of the
worst things in retrospect that happened to them is they
played Clemson in Week one? Well, why is that bad? Josh,
we won the game. It's not bad. It's great that
you won the game. You've got very very serious flaws that,
it turns out, are the same flaws Clemson has. And

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because you played each other Week one, only one if
you could lose the game. And there's this thing that
happens in college football where there are people who would
be ultra critical of this thing in a loss that
totally ignore that thing if you've won games. LSU has
had flaws all season long. They cannot run the ball
to save their lives. They haven't been able to all season.

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But because they haven't lost a game yet, people bite
your head off if you start mentioning it. So last week,
I am telling you throughout the week, I'm getting lit
up because we're talking about the LSU O Miss game.
And I picked ole Miss to win, and I was
very confident it was my favorite games of the week
because I thought there was a very glaring disadvantage that
LSU had. Number One, they can't run the ball. Number two,

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your offensive staff is badly outmatched by their defensive staff.
Well that's not just me sitting here spitballing. That was
one of the most popular talking points just around the
league last week. I had other coaches hitting me up saying, hey,
that LSU ol miss game edge significantly, Ole miss defensive
staff against LSU. So you just mentioned fractions of that. Oh,

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you're a hater. You're a hater. Boy. This used to
be a great show. Now it's just clickbait. That's just
know what it is is telling the truth about your
team that you refuse to see. This is to the
two percent, not the ninety eight percent that I love,
but the two percent of LSU clownery amongst the fan base.
They once you mentioned in that stuff, well we won games.

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Oh and by the way, we're about to go into Oxford.
You'll see, you'll see when we put the pedal down.
They're not as good last year. We had that game
go the way it did last year. And now we're
better and they're not as good. No, you're not. No,
you just hadn't lost a game yet. Well, now you
have lost the game. Now guess what the LSU message
boards look like today. A disaster because now everyone wants

(51:07):
to call it out. It was already there. Who didn't
see this. Who in the world was shocked LSU couldn't
run the ball yesterday. They can't run it against air,
they can't run it against anyone. And what you have
is you got someone like me who has extreme pro
LSU bias. I've always been upfront about this because LSU

(51:28):
twenty nineteen is the reason this show ever blew up.
I'm very close to that program. I badly want LSU
to win, but I won't lie for him, and I
won't lie about him. So I'm sitting here thinking to myself,
you're telling me already in the Brian Kelly era, we've
had a Heisman quarterback that gets wasted because we can't
play defense. And then we get the defense figured out,

(51:50):
and we're gonna waste that because we can't run the ball.
At Louisiana State University, we can't run the ball. Of
all the things that we could struggle with pathetically, we could,
we couldn't get halfway decent dB play a couple of
years ago. Now we can't run the ball. This is
the state of Louisiana. They're right in your backyard. So

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talent acquisition, I actually think they've made moves to rectify
it's just that we're still in that position right now.
So I think this team's got terminal flaws this year.
And I mentioned that last year or last week, last
couple of weeks. I tell you another thing. This model
that we use, you know that everyone likes to anecdotally
take shots at. It started dropping LSU three weeks ago,

(52:31):
just like it started dropping South Carolina before South Carolina
started losing. Started dropping LSU. So the signs were already there.
Two of eleven on third down. And think about this.
You want to know where lack of a ground game
bites you. You want to know when you're putting a clearly
less than one hundred percent Garrett Nussmeyer in an unfair position.

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Not only were they two of eleven on third down yesterday,
their average distance to gain on third down was eight
point one yards. That's so and is never a situation
you should be in. So I'm sitting here still saying
the same things I've been saying about LSU, only now
everyone will agree because they lost a football game. It
was there already. It was there already. One of the

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consistent tasks in this league week to week is to
find consistency just consistency in performance. When you can't run
the ball, you will not have consistency in performance. Now
here's the difference, all right. So it was really really
interesting to watch Ole Miss and LSU and then watch

(53:36):
Bama in Georgia. So Ole Miss beats LSU because LSU
can't run the ball. LSU barely stayed in the game
because they couldn't run the ball. Did you watch Bama
against Georgia. Obama has not conventionally run the ball worth
ay crap all year, and yet their offense still functions.
It's still hums. Why is that? Because they got an

(53:57):
excellent offensive coaching staff that understand if we're not gonna
conventionally run it like we did in nineteen thirty eight
right here between the tackles, we better be able. We
better be able to generate some version of it. We
better be able to gain it in the aggregate of
the way. We run sweeps and we do motion this
and motion that, and we hit tailbacks out of the

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backfield really quick. Kublick described that brilliantly on this show
last Thursday. You don't have that edge with your offensive staff.
You just don't. It's not my job to sit here
and break that down. I'm telling you everyone's picked up
on that. You had many cases yesterday where Ole miss
sat there and Pete Golding said, ye, I'll just bring

(54:40):
three I'll just play three man front. You still can't
run it against us, and you know what, He's right
because you can't, and they won't be able to the
rest of the year. No one's about to sell me,
by the way, that when they get Caden Durham back,
who was hurt, and that's not great, but they get
him back and it'll be RECTI five. No, it won't. No,
it will not be strength for them at any point

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this year anyway. It just rubs me the wrong way
because me, of all people, being labeled an LSU hater
boggled my mind last week boggled the mind and a
lot of the clowns Again, it's about two percent, not
ninety eight that did that are nowhere to be found
on www. Dot whatever dot com today because we're dealing

(55:24):
with the two percent. I understand that I love ninety
eight percent of you guys, So to you, I say
We're in this together. To the rest of you, I
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(55:47):
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(56:08):
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Wo what does this say? We got you. Here's the thing.
A lot of people who claim they don't listen to

(56:31):
the outside noise watch the show on Sunday nights. So
are there are some noteworthy individuals in the sport of
college football who like to live text during the show.
So if I glance over here, it's normally because I've
been been reading feedback in real time, not that I
would ever let that influence me. I don't care about

(56:52):
the outside noise. At Peyton State, we would never let
it affect us. It affects us. Sam Pittman has been
fired at Arkansas. What was eventual became inevitable after a
fifty six to thirteen loss to Notre Dame yesterday, a splattering,
the likes of which were so ugly and so emphatic

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that I'm not even gonna make it the Sarah McLaughlin
Special out of respect because I love Sam Pittman and
he just lost his job. So he went thirty two
and thirty four over five and five years and change.
He took that job when no one wanted it, and
I think he deserves a lot of credit for that.
He went three and seven in the COVID year, and

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then they went nine and four, and I hoped he
was off to the races, and then it was seven
and six, four and eight, seven and six. He started
two and three. It sucks for him because they had
two fourth quarter fumbles that cost him what would otherwise
have been two wins. And then yesterday happened. And I
have no clue. I have no clue if yesterday still
would have happened. If you changed the other results. But anyway,

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Tim Pittman's out coaching search began, Bobby Petrino interiom head
coach can't. I'll get to it in a second. I
know if you were around, maybe you were at church
pot luck today and you didn't really have time to
see the news that even though you knew Patrino was
the offensive coordinator there. It is a reality slap to

(58:20):
the face to just hear those words Bobby Petrino's the
head coach at Arkansas again. But I'll get to that
in a second. I wanted this to work so bad.
All Arkansas fans did. I wanted it to work so
bad for the same reason. I love what Clark's doing
down the road here at Vanderbilt. I love what Kenny's
doing out at Arizona State. I love seeing guys who

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are a perfect match for their program. Shane Biemer at
South Carolina feels like this to me. I don't know
how to describe it. Sometimes it's caused a guy went
there or played there. Other times it's just because the
personality in the program blend so perfectly. That is very
unique to college football. That doesn't happen in the pros.

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Really in the pros. It's more you're hired to do
a job and it's a bottom line business. And there's
a lot of that in college football too. It's just
culture matters. NFL franchises, it's kind of you've seen one,
seeing them all. There's a bubble, and there are thirty
two of them, and some of them maybe in California,
some of them may be in Florida, and some of

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them are more prestigious than the others. I'd take the Packers'
job over the Jaguars job. But the point is it's
pretty transferable. If something worked in Seattle, it'll work in Washington.
Well that's not always the case in college football. I
would love to see Greg Shechiano go coach at UCLA,
just for fun, just to watch what happens. So Sam

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Pittman's Sam Pittman's profile probably would not have worked at
many other places, but it felt like it could work
at Arkansas, and I hoped it would work at Arkansas.
And it looked like it was going to work at Arkansas.
And the reason I loved that is because he is
a great dude to be around, but also I hoped
that it would work so that more programs would chase

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that because I love the unique spirit of college football,
and it's really amplified when you do what Arizona State's
done with Dillingham, when you do what Vanderbilt's done with
Clark Lee. Difference is those are success stories. This one
ended up not being one. So the next question becomes,
who's going to take the job. The interim is Bobby

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b Trino, and I believe they put out a statement
today and they said Bobby Petrino's name will be in
the running for this job, which just again mind boggling.
I'll finish with that. I was talking to a couple
of pretty well placed people in the coaching industry yesterday
about this, because they all go to the big games,

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and I found myself disagreeing a little bit with some
people about the stature of the Arkansas job, Like some
people look at the art Kansas job as an afterthought
amongst SEC head coaching jobs. And if that's the case,
don't take it, because you don't want to be the
seventh or eighth or ninth best job in the most
competitive and cutthroat league in America. And yeah, they'll pay

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enough money, but they're going to pay you so much
money that they think it warrants being able to have
unreasonable expectations. Okay, I counter with this, how familiar are
you with Northwest Arkansas? Most of you have never been there.
That's okay. I'm blessed to get to travel to all
these places. So yeah, I've experienced it up there. I

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go to football games up there, I go stormchasing up there.
I know Northwest Arkansas. I question whether people who detegrate
the potential value of this job, I question how much
they know it. Now, what I'm thinking is, if you
don't get the proper infusion of major industry in northwest Arkansas, no,
the Arkansas job is not one worth taking. Great people, check,

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great facility, yeah, check. But that's not gonna win you
football games if you can't go dollar for dollar with
the big boys, Because ultimately it's about getting the players.
And if you can't get the players up there, you're
not gonna get the wins. You're not gonna out scheme
folks in this league eight or nine times out of
the year. So the next question becomes for anybody who

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gets hired there, and if you're coming after me, if
I'm an end the band head coach, the first thing
I'm asking is what guarantees is Walmart given me? What
is Tyson Chicken doing? What is JB. Hunt doing? What
is Wright's Barbecue doing? The four big industry pillars of
northwest Arkansas? But for real, I need to know what

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guarantees I have because I'm telling you there's some coaching
searches that are just now under Virginia Tech and UCLA.
Everyone knows what I'm talking about. I think there are
total and complete blinders on at a couple of places
like that when it comes to what it takes to win. Okay,
you've got this by gone era mentality that what it

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takes is, Okay, we got enough money to pay the buyout,
so we can fire the current staff, and then we've
raised enough money to pay a new staff. Problem solved. No,
you just created new problems. If you can't tell me
what your plan for rev share is and then what
your above and beyond plan is to fill your nil coffers,

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you're dead on arrival. And I'm telling you, man like
you immerse yourself in college football fandom. So you think
everyone at the administrative level gets this, they don't. There's
some morons who work in this profession who are making decisions.
Who would look at you and say, what do you
mean how we're gonna pay our players we participate in
rev share? Well, yeah, it's like a human saying I

(01:03:46):
breathe oxygen? What else do you want me to do?
Probably a little bit more than every other human to
ever exists. Does everybody breathes oxygen? Everyone participates in rev share?
What kind of edge is that gonna give you? You're
thinking about today's university versus the university of ten years ago, Well,
today's players get red share. Ten years ago they didn't

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get it. Yeah, but we're not living in twenty fifteen.
So you're competing against players on other teams that all
get red share. How are you gonna give yourself an edge?
And that's what I'd ask before taking the Arkansas job.
How am I going to be given an edge here?
Because otherwise my best is not going to be good enough.
And there's a lot of ego, and there's a lot

(01:04:28):
of arrogance sometimes in this profession. But when it comes
time to make a business decision, guys know, I'd better
be put in position where I can get good players.
And I just happen to think you can get good
players at Arkansas, and I don't have a long case
study for it, because what I'm saying is I think

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things can be done there that haven't been done before.
I actually think the landscape is pretty uniquely fashioned right
now for it to be done, just like I think
Texas Tech never could have done what they did last
year a generation ago. I think Oklahoma State, and I'm
still waiting to see you on this. I think Oklahoma
State may be on the precipice of deciding screw it,
we'll do it. Is Arkansas going to do that now?

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As for now it's Bobby Petrino's team. I can't believe
that this is the world we are living in. Bobby
Patrino is, once again, at least on an interim basis,
the head coach of Arkansas. Now, when you are the
age I am, when you're in your thirties, right, Bradley,

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I'm in my thirties. Yeah, when you're in your thirties,
or if you're in your forties, but I'm talking like
mid thirties to mid forties. You still think that fifteen
years ago was yesterday. So I still vividly remember twenty ten, eleven, twelve,
I always remember years in terms of what happened in

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football that year, but those years don't feel long ago
to me at all. But to someone who's eighteen years old,
if I tell you, boy, remember Patrino in twenty twelve,
remember what happened, They're like, no, okay, So when eighteen
year old is a legal adult today. So I've got
a huge high school and college aged audience that wasn't

(01:06:13):
even coherent. When Patrino made a ride that I would
argue in sec Circles was more famous than Paul Revere's
fermently in Arkansas Circles. It was a man. I'm telling
you you need to respect the filter I have on
myself because I had about three more lined up in
my head. Jesse, remind me to tell you the jokes

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I had off air. But I know kids listening to
this show. I respect a lot of dads driving to
work tomorrow morning, want a kid friendly environment in the truck.
And so I abstained, which is more than I can
say for him. Fifteen years ago. I abstained, and I'm
proud of myself for it. That's what I want to
tell you. But I want to remind you or teach
you for the first time. If you're not aware, just Wikipedia,

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you know, just go read news articles, go watch a
special or two on it. You could not write a
Netflix special about college football in Arkansas that included the
storylines that actually happened in real life with Patrino there.
And then he's gone, and you think you'll never set
foot in the state again. And not only does he

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and not only does he land back at Arkansas as
the coordinator, he's the head coach there again, and his
name's in the running for the permanent job. And you
know what, I couldn't care less about his past. Someone
came at me today, by the way, and said, oh,
if it was your sister, if it was your daughter,
if it was your wife, you would What what does

(01:07:39):
that have to do with Arkansas football? What does that
have to anyway? Yeah, Bobby Petrino, I don't know what
else to say. I'm paid to speak words, and I'm
at a loss for words. They're watching us in Morristown, Tennessee,
Boiling Springs, South Carolina, Gary, Indiana. Thank you so much.
Added takeaway time. Here we go, Bradley several more takeaways

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some Saturday, speaking of that game in Arkansas fifty six
two thirteen. Notre Dame just emphatically this was beyond a
Sarah McLaughlin special, which I'm gonna say for later in
the show. This was just a TVMA special, a full
blown splattering Notre Dame. Forty two points and four hundred
and twenty yards. I'm being told those were first half numbers. Okay,

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forty two points and four hundred and twenty yards in
the first half pay per pop, they averaged ten point
two yards per play. Translation, I had stats in INFO
run these numbers. That means they averaged a first down
per play assault terrible. You will notice now that Notre
Dame has steadied the ship. They had two early losses

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and now they won this game, and now they got
a really workable schedule. And I've already seen some people
start to talk about the Notre Dame strength of schedule thing.
And the working theory was, as as long as Notre
Dame goes ten and two, they'll be in the playoff.
Why cause it's Notre Dame. I actually still believe that
there is an alternate, growing working theory out there that

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they don't have another quality win because all the rest
of the teams on their schedule keep losing, and so
the thinking is Notre Dame's resume at the end of
the year isn't gonna bear the brunt of strength of
schedule scrutiny. And I'm telling you you're probably wrong. But
even if you're not well, actually if you're not, you're not.

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I just think this is gonna work itself out. There
is unimaginable carnage ahead in college football. So what seems
right now like a very finite amount of college football
playoff spots could end up being worth searching for qualified
teams and Notre Dames well within that batch. Just say,
I think it'll work itself out. Although your points are taken. Yeah,

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I did not ignore Friday night. Friday night, I was
watching nothing because I was playing a bubbleheader in softball,
but Virginia and FSU were playing. And let me just
set the scene for you. So we're out playing a
doubleheader in softball. We are playing a team that, if

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they had point spreads on Church League Friday Night softball,
would be favored by about ten against. I would say
we are down two to nothing, two to one. I
think fourth inning not good, and everyone's really sleepwalking because
everyone's watching this game on their phone. I snuck a
peek or two as well, and Florida State got down
fourteen to nothing to Virginia, and everyone's like, oh man, oh,

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what's happened to them? And then it dawned on me.
We were Florida State, and I yelled that in the dugout,
and sure enough we responded, seven run inning, four run inning.
We won run rule. Florida State did not respond as well.
Now they did respond, and they I think ended up
taking the lead, but Virginia ended up clipping them. Remember,

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we don't know how good Florida State is. You remember
that was the line from Bama fans after Week one,
who wanted to hold out hope. Yeah, we lost to them,
but we don't know how good they are. You were right,
and now we got to say it about Virginia to
make Florida State folks feel better. We don't know how
good Virginia is. They're ranked this week, for whatever that's worth.
In the A people, they're ranked. We got Tommy Castellano's

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ceiling version against Alabama. There's always baked in to a
point spread out there, the potential that the Flora version
shows up, and that's why that FSU minus six and
a half was what it was and it didn't move
all week? Did it? So the jury is still out.
They got Miami this week. I will be in attendance

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for that game. Some thought. Some thought that once Florida
State lost on Friday, Oh, you must be rearranging your travel. No,
I'm etching it in Stone. I will be there from
Miami Florida State. I think they will respond. I think
the sneaking suspicion that'll be a competitive game. I was
at a competitive game in the early portion of yesterday

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and Illinois beat USC and Illinois one despite going two
to four in the red zone. This game should have
been a much wider margin of victory for Illinois than
it was. We've been hesitant with USC on this show,
excited but hesitant because we thought they may still be
one more year away. And I do feel that way.

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But I also know you don't want to hear that
about Lincoln Riley. See, this was always going to be
the catch twenty two. I've said this since July. I
said my truthful vision on Lincoln Riley is they have
figured a lot of things out. They've made good moves,
and I think in time, the roster is going to
reflect that, it will not fully reflect it this year.
That's how I felt in July, and my follow up

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feel was, if they starting now, so I'm speaking to
you in July, starting now, if they're willing to give
him some more patients, they'll have the product they want.
But if they don't feel that he deserves more patients,
because he's already several years into his tenure, I would
understand that. So now we're gonna find out how much

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patience or USC has for Lincoln Riley. But as for Illinois,
that out rushed USC one seventy one to twenty six.
And that's noteworthy because last week Illinois, I'm trying to remember,
I think they got outrushed like three hundred and twelve
to two. And conversely, Southern Cal's been running the ball
really good, so to outrush them in this game was

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no small feat. Lincoln Riley now four and eleven versus
ranked teams at USC. It's just got to get better.
It's just got to get better. Illinois that lost last week, Okay,
maybe everyone's just got a bowling shoe ugly mulligan in
their bag this year, and maybe that was Illinois's possessive

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version of Illinois. Next up, Tennessee and Mississippi State was
very entertaining. Tennessee forty one, Mississippi State thirty four. This
was one of our our most confident bets last week.
We took Mississippi State plus the points on Sunday night.
Thought it would be a dog fight. Thought Mississippi State

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had a half decent shot to win the game outright,
and we got everything we thought we would get in
this game. Tennessee's run defense stood up fairly well here
for a game where you gave up thirty four and
a lot of that's kind of weird because there was
some defensive stuff. I thought their secondary played pretty well.

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Like I just thought it was a fight. Not every
game has to have these three or four bullet points
worth of explainers. It was just a fight. It was
a really good game, which surprised some people because they
are probably still a little bit too low on Mississippi State.
State's probably just a better team than you think they are,
and they showed that yesterday. But since they lost, no

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one will really take notice. But just to fight, just
to fight. So now, well here's what happens. Okay, you
had a game you could have lost. You took a
new starter quarterback on the road, and there were some picks,
but there were tip balls, Like I thought, Aglar played
pretty well actually, But you had a game that could
have gone against you. Some would argue maybe it should

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have gone against you. I don't ever believe in that.
But you won. So you had the Georgia loss. This
would have been devastating. This would have been a second
conference loss. It was just that close to happening. But
it doesn't goes your way, all right. So that's Tennessee's schedule.
They got Bobby Petrino coming to town. Get used to
saying that for a little while. And then they go
to Bama third Saturday in October, which will take place

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the third Saturday in October. Just keep an eye on
that team, anyone, anyone who dodges that kind of conference loss.
Just keep an eye on it. I remember, you know,
every single year since I've been watching this sport, there's
been a result or to first half of the season
that you didn't understand the value of until the back half,

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until November, until the playoff selection show is on and
you're looking at the resume and you're saying, dude, you
remember that game in Week four that at the time
I didn't think was that big a deal. Think about
if Tennessee would have lost that game, they wouldn't even
be here Now they are. Yeah, yeah, that's why the
outcomes really matter. Indiana and Iowa was so ugly, so ugly.

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This was an Iowa game. The best way I could
describe this is Indiana one an Iowa game, which is
a pretty big compliment. We don't give out Chalai rating
on the added takeaway games. This one we get minus
CHALYI hideous to watch. People paid money to go to
this game, and I commend you guys. The offense got
bottled up. They Iowa had one explosive play and who

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here's the question or Indiana rather had one explosive play.
But they won. They found a way to win, and
then found a way to let Iowa cover and then
had the quarterback apologize to betters in the post game.
We had Kiffin tell people to take the over. Last
week we had Fernando Mendoza openly understanding he took a
safety to end the game that took it from a
seven point win to a five point win. The line

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was six and a half at the beginning of the week.
In case you're case you're wondering with the impact that had.
Just funny anyway, Indiana, same thing I just said about Tennessee.
You got a conference win that easily could have been
a loss, and who knows, who knows what it means
moving forward? Ohio State went up to Washington and took

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care of business. There are two voices that I have,
one on each shoulder right now with Ohio State. One
of those voices keeps saying, we still don't really know
about Ohio State. And then there's this other voice that says,
are you going to do this all year? You keep
trying to discredit the opponent. After Ohio State beats him,

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you discredit Texas. Oh, we got to find out about
Ohio State. Okay, Well, then they go to Washington and
you tout demon Williams and the home field ad vantage
there and they shut all that down. Yeah, they only
had like six offensive possessions, which is crazy. We still
got one of the slowest pace of play teams. We
still got to figure Ohio State out. Hey, maybe it's

(01:18:09):
just complimentary football. Maybe that's the way they're going to
play this year, or maybe they've looked and they've said,
we've got a suffocating defense, and Matt Patricia has worked
two really good offensive staffs. Now we don't have to
put the pedal down offensively. We can afford to take
our time. We got incredible wide receiver talent. But in

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many cases, the only way they could have lost this
game yesterday is if they tried to force things with
Julian saying so they can afford to bring him along slowly.
They can afford to let this offense mature. We of
course know what they are in September. They hope not
to be in November. Washington had a four to nothing
explosive play edge in this game and got beat by

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three scorers. I would not have believed that if you
told me that Friday. So it's Ohio State and it's Oregon,
and then there's a pretty wide gap and then Penn
State down there. So is it just Ohio State Oregon
on a collision course? Is that what we've got now
could very well be? Let's continue. You've got a few

(01:19:15):
more things to talk about here. Whow jam pack show
Texas A and m beat Auburn sixteen to ten. Give
me one and a half til on. This one not
the most aesthetically pleasing game in the world. There was
desperation in the air for Auburn, and this was a
It was a weird game because it was it was
a moment that Auburn had to have, but they had

(01:19:37):
to go into college station and A and M's off
of buy so situational dynamics, it's just totally against Auburn.
Auburn needed this, and I also thought about A and
M how they going to handle success. There was a
lot of talk amongst A and M fans, the smarter
at least, the more seasoned A and M fans, that hey,

(01:19:57):
it's great that we want it Notre Dame, but now
we won at Notre Dame. Now we're gonna have a
buye and everyone is gonna be able to just bask
for two weeks and yeah we're coming out of a
buye and yeah we're at home. But we got a
desperate team coming in and there was some concern, and
there was valid concern. Frankly, A and M finds a

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way to lose those kind of games in the past.
But let me explain the Mike Elko effect, cause that's
it I'm convinced A and M of years past loses
that game inexplicably, somehow, some way, you're left with your
jaw on the ground. Maybe you're in the stadium, maybe
you're watching it home. You know that feeling. It's called

(01:20:38):
battered aggie syndrome. You had it for a long time
because you have find ways to lose those games. Well,
yesterday they had thirteen penalties for one hundred and nineteen yards.
They were three of fourteen on third down, they lost
the turnover battle, they had no passes over twenty five yards,
they missed two field goals, and they won a football game.

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And that's the Mike Elko effect, because you know there'll
be days where it clicks. We just saw one in
South Bend not too long ago. You know there'll be
days where it's humming offensively. Can you win when you
don't have your fastball? How many different ways can you win?
Are you a Swiss army knife or are you just
kind of a one trick pony and someone figures that
out and you're screwed, You're dead in the water. Well,

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we know that's not A and M. We're starting to learn.
They held Auburn to ten points, one hundred and seventy
seven total yards. They ran for over two hundred on
what I considered to be one of the best rush
defenses in the country. You just find it more and
more ways to win. So that's what's important with Texas
A and M. The biggest takeaway for me if you're
asking what was important about this in some sixteen to

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ten win, Well, it's a conference win, that's the first thing.
The second thing is I've watched them win two distinctively
different types of ways. Now they had to go outscore
Notre Dame on the road, and then they won a
rock fight at home when they clearly don't have their
best stuff against a very desperate Auburn team. December is
a long way away. You don't have to have it

(01:22:06):
all figured out in September. Hardly anyone does. You're still evolving.
The best teams get better. The best statfs make sure
their teams are getting better. I think A and M's
getting better. How many tools do you have in the
bag come December? Are you at the table in December?
And if you are, how many tools do you have
in the bag. Well, now I've seen Marcel reid explosivity

(01:22:27):
in the passing game. I saw him run for over
two hundred yesterday. I've seen them improve defensively. You figure
out who you are. That's about forming identity. I'm figuring
out who you are. You're figuring out who you are.
There's no need to be gloomy. And I'm not the
only one saying it. Mike Elko, take it away.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
So anybody want to ask a question about like us
being four and zho for the first time since twenty sixteen,
or how did the defense bounce back? Or how about
you held them to one hundred and seventy six yards
on offense and you had five sacks and they were
zero for twelve on third down and zero for two
on fourth down, and you got the return game going again.
Like I don't mean to sound like someone else, but
my gosh, will you guys stop being so dreadful and gloomy? Yeah?

(01:23:14):
Next one.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
I mean, seriously, what's the matter with you people. Billy
Lucci's got to get texas A and M in check.
We can't have this, We cannot have this. I have
no idea what Auburn is defensively or offensively. I have
no idea who or what Auburn is offensively. I expected
them to go into this game and compete, and the
score was close, but I expected them to have at

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least a two to one run to pass ratio because
that was their only path to me to winning the game.
And they ended up thirty three passes twenty four rushes,
and it really was a wider margin than that because
all of the sacks, and there were several of them
again counters rushes. So they tried to throw the ball
to win, and that's not happening. It's not happening, not

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because you can't get guys open, and because you don't
have good receiver talent, you don't have the quarterback to
get it to them. It's just a failed experiment. The
Jackson Arnold experiment is just a failed experiment, and it's
probably not gonna get better because playing Georgia and Missouri
and Bama at Vanderbilt doesn't tend to make it better.

(01:24:23):
And now they're a three and two team and there
are probably several more losses come in and it's gonna
get worse on the schedule, but it's gonna get worse tonight,
Ladies and gentlemen, Auburn, the Sarah McLaughlin special. It was
a must have game, and they were out gained four
fourteen to one seventy seven. A and M had more
rush yards than you had total yards. A and M

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had more pass yards than you had total yards. And
A and M didn't exactly light it on fire offensively yesterday.
You were just that bad. They doubled you up on
first downs. Auburn was oh of fifteen on third and
fourth down, another five sacks, another six tackles for loss
in winning time. The fourth quarter winning time, Auburn had

(01:25:07):
one total yard fifty two yards rushing, was their lowest
output in several years. I unfortunately have here Auburn's drive
chart three and out, three and out, punt three and out,
field goal three and out. We head into the locker room,
halftime adjustments, second half, turnover on downs, punt touchdown, drive

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of two yards, three and out, three and out, turnover
on downs. It's just a failed experiment. It's dead in
the water. I have no clue where they're going to
go from here. One thing I've learned about college football
the SEC is you don't reinvent yourself on the fly.
Once the plane's already off the ground. There are only

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so many repairs you can make. They're trying to rebuild
the plane at thirty thousand feet, and I think we
know what happens to a plane when you try and
rebuild it at thirty thousand feet. You're Sarah McLaughlin's Special
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entire show tonight. I badly wanted to make it through
an entire show without talking about officiating. And I thought
I was going to. On the flight home last night,
I missed holding call here and there. Targeting. I always

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have problems with it, but I thought we were gonna
make it through a show without talking about officiating. And
then I looked at my phone and I had one person,
two people, ten people, thirty people saying dude, wake for us.
Just had an entire game stolen from them, And I said,
don't start this, not this again. One blown call in

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an entire afternoon stole the game from you. Really, And
then I went and watched, and I don't know any
other way to put it. Acc officials stole a game
from Wake Forest yesterday. You're looking at the game here, Bradley,
just loop it for a second. So here's the situation.
If you're listening on pod, Wake Forest is up twenty

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three to twenty minute, fifty one to go. Georgia Tech
has no timeouts left. They have the ball. Wake has
the ball. They're up, opponent has no timeouts left. It's
third down. Basically they need a first down. Games over.
Georgia Tech jumps off sides badly to the point where

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center does exactly what he's supposed to do, snaps the ball.
Robbie Ashford at quarterback does exactly what he's supposed to do.
He throws the ball up. Why wouldn't he consequence free? Right?
At worst, we're gonna get five yards and we're gonna
get a replay a third down. They didn't throw the flag,
So what did that do? Well, what it did was

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it made the down count and it's an incomplete pass,
so it stops the clock and Wake has to punt.
And guess what George Tech did. March right down the field,
kicked field goal, tied the game go into overtime, win
the game flat out stole the game from Wake Forest. No,
not many people will care. It won't create an outrage

(01:29:31):
campaign because it was just Wake Forest. Here's the situation.
Yet again, college football has allowed itself to be a
laughing stop, and college football officiating has fundamentally changed the
outcome of a game. I, as you know, am always
the first one to tell you that blown calls don't

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decide games. However, there are instances where a game in
any other case is over except for a call that
makes it not be over. Like this is one of
those situations. So I was going back and forth with
some people about this today. I don't know what started this,

(01:30:13):
but I posted that earlier today and then some people
came in my mentions and they said, oh, you're gonna
point that out, but not point this out. And they
were showing like missed holding calls in the Penn State game,
and I watched the clips and absolutely I think those
are missholding calls. If you think that is equal to
what we're talking about here in terms of outrage, I

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don't agree with you, because holding, even the egregious missed
holding calls, even an egregious missed face mask. It's still
a play moving at one hundred miles an hour, And
in the case of holding, it's a judgment call. Hopefully
you're making proper judgment on it. But at least I
kind of somewhat get when holding calls are missed. This

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is academic. To see that a guy is in the
neutrals on at the snap. To see that a guy's
off sides requires two things ey sight and a flag
in your pocket. I could take someone on day one
who knows nothing about this sport, line them up right here.
They're on the line of scrimmage. It's a beautiful thing.
They put an official right there. It's called the line judge,

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and his job is to just look across the field
and if someone is in between him and the ball,
it means they're off sides, and we're gonna throw a
flag until the game's on the line, in which case
we don't throw a flag. So now we get in
a situation where I want to remind you now, Georgia
Tech happened to be in this game. Georgia Tech, a
couple of weeks ago, beats Clemson. They storm the field,

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they got fined, They owe the ACC money. Jake Dickert's
the new head coach at Wake. Had he stepped to
a podium yesterday and trashed this, he would have been
spot on and he would have gotten fined. You know
what the ACC league office had to do, They had
to do nothing. They chose to release a statement where

(01:32:01):
they admitted they messed up. And that's it. That's it.
You know, your livelihoods based on you winning football games.
Those players, they don't get a do over. But what
we're gonna do is we're gonna say we screwed up
something totally within our power. We screwed up. We don't
owe you any money. You know you owe you owe
us money when you screw up, or when you point

(01:32:24):
out accurately that we screw up. We don't owe you
a dime when we screw up and we cost you something.
College football, billion dollar industry, nickel and dime officiating mechanism.
And again, no one really has to answer for it.
There's no transparency. And even when they tell you someone
had to answer for it, I guarantee you whoever blew

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that call, they may sit out a couple of weeks,
they'll eventually just be on another crew and all's well,
that doesn't end well, and that's what you have to
deal with. That's what you got to swallow. It's college
football officiating. What can we do about it? Boy? Oh boy,
part of day one of my college Football commissionership. Let's

(01:33:08):
react to the apeopole. Then I'll give you some best
bets and we'll be out of here. Uh well, the
ap Poles out. That's about the most I can say
for the Apeopole. It's week six. It's week six, and
I am convinced a vast block of the voters have
not watched many of these teams. Let's just start talking

(01:33:28):
about it. This thing is generated by flex power. Let's
start talking about it. Arizona State is twenty fifth, they're back, okay, Virginia,
Brigham Young, Illinois, Notre Dame. I don't have that big
a problem with twenty one through twenty five. So Michigan's
at number twenty, and then we get to a really
really muddy part of the a people. Missouri's at nineteen.

(01:33:48):
I'm gonna tell you why Missouri's at nineteen. Most of
the voters haven't watched them. That's it. That's it. They
haven't lost a game. They've been pretty dominant. People haven't
watched them because it's too much to ask for voters
to watch games. Florida State is at eighteen. They dropped
ten spots. Yeah, it feels about fair. Georgia Tech at seventeen.

(01:34:10):
Why well, they got dropped. They won a game yesterday
and got dropped. Although we just talked about it, it
was a blown call. Maybe someone looked and said, I'm
gonna punish them if the ACC officials don't. That's cold. Actually,
it's not the worst logic in the world though, So
I'm not even gonna get mad at it. But number
sixteen I'm pretty mad about. Vanderbilt is number sixteen. I'll

(01:34:33):
get back to that in just a second. Just circle Vanderbilt.
Tennessee's fifteen. Iowa State is at fourteen. Iowa State is
so underrated right now. Iowa State at fourteen despite the
fact that they've beaten Kansas State in another country. They
beat Iowa, they beat Arizona, they went on the road
to Jonesboro, Arkansas for good measure, and beat our Arkansas State.

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And I as sure as I say that, someone's gonna say, oh, yeah,
but those teams are good. Yeah, yeah, Okay, tell me
Penn State's best win Villanova fiu, Hey, what's Texas's best win?
In fact, if you look at the top ten there,
Penn State, inexplicably is still ranked number seven in the country.

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Texas is nine. I'm gonna read you their combined wins.
Stop me when you hear an impressive win. San Jose State,
utep SAM Houston, Florida International, Nevada, Villanova. I got undefeated
Iowa State sitting out of the top ten with three
Power four wins. I got Vandy sitting there at sixteenth,

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went and blew out Virginia Tech in their building, went
and blew out South Carolina in their building. They've run
it up on everyone, but they're not in the top ten.
I got a team with a loss sitting there at
number seven and no good wins. I got a team
with a loss at nine and no good wins. So
why is that? Well, you're punished because your crime is

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your logo is the Vanderbilt logo, Your logo is the
Missouri logo, your logo is the Iowa State logo. For
the third week in a row. I'm saying this, Vanderbilt's
not invited to the party. Texas, is Missouri not invited
to the party? Penn State just was. I went back
and forth with some people about this Friday. Penn State

(01:36:23):
was at that point sitting top five. I have been
doing rankings on Thursdays on this show. Even before Penn
State lost, I had them at tenth. I think they've
been overrated already. Now they lost a game. Penn State,
with a loss is still ranked higher in the ap
pole than I had them ranked before they lost the game. Why.

(01:36:44):
Because I believe in this crazy concept that once the
season starts, you should throw your preseason predictions in the garbage,
throw your preseason thoughts in the garbage, especially after you've
got four weeks of results under your belt. I don't
even care what I thought about Penn State in the
preseason because now I've seen him play four times, or

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Texas or Iowa State, or because I've seen him play
four times, I didn't think. I didn't think Vanderbilt was
going to be a top twenty five team. But now
Vanderbilt's played multiple games and they clearly have a better
resume than several teams in the top ten. But they're
not in the top ten because you don't watch them
play and you have an AP vote. You don't watch

(01:37:25):
Missouri play, you have an AP vote. And then I
am also convinced there's another portion of the AP votership
that gives benefit of the doubt to big brands. Of
course they do, but they also think to themselves, well, Vandy,
you know what, if they want my vote, they can
go prove it Saturday against Alabama. What did Penn State
have to prove? What did Texas have to prove that

(01:37:47):
Vanderbilt has to prove? And you're also being predictive. You're
also thinking, I don't expect Vanderbilt to be there in
the end. Therefore I won't put them there now, like
it would be any crime to put them there and
then adjust if they do lose, you know, like any
sane person would handle a merit based ranking. I've done

(01:38:09):
the jpeople for so long power ratings that I've looked
at this from a distance and I said, I cannot
believe people get into the world of ranking teams. This
is why you people are why Oklahoma's at number five.
People have problems with that CAUs mateers out. I say
the same thing, It doesn't matter if he's out. This

(01:38:30):
is not a power rating. It's not about what you
think they will be without him. Wait for the games
to happen. No one cares about your predictions. You guys
suck at predicting. If you didn't, you would win money
on this. But you don't, So no one cares about
what you're predicting. Ranked teams based on their current resume
and then adjust accordingly. That's why Oklahoma should be five.

(01:38:52):
Maybe OU's low at five. Ole Miss is up nine spots. Finally,
so ole Miss getting some credit. Miami three, Oregon two,
Ohio State one. By the way, imagine predicting that three
through six there. Imagine it's July media days and I
go on air and I say, you know, I think

(01:39:13):
by October, I see Miami and ole Miss in Oklahoma
and A and m All in the top seven. I
see them all ranked to head of Penn State and
Texas and Alabama and Georgia. By then, they would have
called me clickbait. Paates so fast, And as it turns out,
I would have been right about all of it, because,
as we have found out, not everything people say that

(01:39:35):
you disagree with is clickbait. Some of it could really
just be a true, authentic difference of opinion. Some of
it could even be there, right and you're wrong. Wo'st
to amongst us would have thunk it? Yeah, Ohio State
and Oregon they are clearly the one and two favorites
to win the Big Ten right now, and I'm really
interested to see if that changes at all this year.

(01:39:56):
Is there a wrench to be thrown into the Big
Ten plans? Or is it pretty activeademic? You can go
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never a better time. If you believe in Penn State,
I myself do not, but if you do, you can
go hit them up. You can go bet. I gotta
tell you, we talked about it. I'm going to the
games Saturday. It's not one of my initial best bets.
I'm about to hand out a couple. But if you
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Here are our two early best bets for the week.
Our Sunday picks went two and oh last week. I
got two games. I'm on early. Vanderbilt's getting way too
many points at Alabama. Vanderbilt plus twelve and a half.
I will take as one of our best bets and
wake Forest plus five and a half against Virginia Tech.

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I think weight could win the game outright, So gimme
Vandy plus twelve and a half. It's a very very
academically prestigious Rominudel Express this week, and give me wake
Forest plus five and a half. We'll have several more
this week. Man, what a show, What a show our
forty minutes. But it was a big Saturday. I don't
know what to tell you, man. We had a lot
to say. We'll be back here Tuesday night, same time.

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Full predictions for this upcoming week. Until then we have
to go eat dinner. For director Bradley. For producer Jesse,
I'm Josh Pate, take care of have a great start
to your week, and God bless.

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