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October 5, 2025 93 mins

College Football week 6 reactions are here. Texas vs Florida and Miami vs FSU delivered statement wins for the Gators and Canes. What’s next for Mario Cristobal and Billy Napier? What are Penn State fans feeling about James Franklin after Penn State fell in upset fashion to UCLA? Vanderbilt vs Alabama ended up going the way of the Tide as Kalen DeBoer’s team continued to roll. Josh also takes a look at Mississippi State vs Texas A&M, Ohio State and Clemson rolling, and more. The latest edition of the AP Poll is out as Josh Pate reacts. Where are Miami and Ohio State? Did Alabama reappear in the top 10? What about Texas and Oklahoma? We also look at Penn State falling and Clemson rising. What are Penn State fans feeling about James Franklin? Where is the Fall Don’t Lie Tour headed for week 7? All that plus best bets on the Ramen Noodle Express.

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
You ever watch on a Saturday, maybe your team may
be someone else's team, and think to yourself, I don't
think anything's ever going to be the same again, because
it happened to me like three times yesterday alone. It
is now Sunday, October, fifth year of our Lord. Twenty
twenty five were jam packed hi Atape spectacular downtown Nashville, Tennessee,

(00:35):
and yet college football carnage all over the place yesterday.
Congrats if you decided to take a buye yesterday. A
lot of our friends did not. It is a reaction Sunday.
It was a high impact Saturday. It was a life
changing Saturday. No hyperbole around here on this campus, life
changing saturday for many of you. We got all angles

(00:56):
on that. I mean, I'm taking a deep dive on
Penn State tonight. A deep dive, not like thirty minutes.
Some thought we would go thirty minutes on Penn State. No,
I'm not a sadist, I'm not a savage. I'm not
doing that twenty five minutes, Max. But we will talk
about Penn State. We will talk about all the rumblings
and all the No, they're not rumblings, they're just chants.

(01:17):
They are howls and screams around James Franklin. And what
did we see yesterday? What we're not even in the
Sigma yesterday, just raw reaction pouring out of me, Jesse.
Can you believe that the AP polls out and they
exposed themselves today? Our friends at the AP exposed themselves today,
but not in who they put in the pole. And

(01:39):
it's not even necessarily in who they left out. It's
who they left out that was in last week that
shouldn't have been where they were a tangled web. I
know we will unpack all that and the ram Noodle Express.
If you see your buddies wearing some new clothes at
work tomorrow, someone test driving a new car in the
parking lot tomorrow morning, it could be they just tail

(02:00):
the Roman Noodle Express over this weekend. Pretty hot. And
that's with the treachery committed by Alabama getting the back
door cover and screwing us on our Vanderboot plus points,
which absolutely was the right side. Yeah we're good. Check
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didn't even plan that. In retrospect, it seems like a
cheap plug there in the intro of the show. But yeah,

(02:21):
Romanudle Express was hot. I got best bets on the
show tonight. They're watching us in Delray Beach, Florida, Saint Louis, Missouri, Humble, Texas.
I think the h is kind of silent. I'll ask
my friends from Humble. I have several and Fair Hope Alabama. Hey,
look look we are loaded tonight. I'm not gonna waste
any more time. I just want you to know that
we are going to hit five hundred thousand subs before

(02:43):
this season is over. That is our goal around here.
We will never charge for this show. Anytime they mentioned
putting the show behind a paywall, it just motivated me
to take hold of the show. So now we own it,
so it's never gonna cost anything. Just all we ask
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We do this free. It's college football year round. We
don't talk an ounce of anything else, politics, other sports, nothing,

(03:06):
maybe some storm chasing in the spring. That's it. All
we ask is that you subscribe to the channel and
the podcast. That's it. There's no follow up. That's it
all right, And you guys have been so I appreciate
those of you who have the one or two of
you remaining out there, don't hold out. Now's the time
to subscribe. I really didn't know. I had to ask

(03:27):
Savannah State this morning, which game would you talk about first?
Because I could really go about four different ways to
lead the show off. Trust me, we'll get to all
of it. Just settle in. It's going to be one
of those shows. Florida beat Texas. Can you believe that?
Whoms too? To funk? It generated by flex power. That's
what this entire segment is. But you know what needed generating, Florida,

(03:51):
just Florida as a team needed generating. I'd give this
game three and a half taly on a one to
five scale. Very viewable, very entertaining, very much surprising to
some people. Of course, by some people, I don't mean ourselves,
because we picked Florida to win this game and got
ridiculed for it. And this is not a receipts type
of show. It's not and I told you so type

(04:13):
of show. It is. But tonight, a little bit later,
a few minutes from now, we have to have a
tough conversation with our friends in Austin and the surrounding areas. However,
we talk about winners on the show first, So Florida
was treated like a three touchdown dog left for dead
in this game. And the line I think it closed
four and a half or five. It was anywhere between

(04:35):
four and a half and six and a half throughout
the week, and I picked Florida. Look, not all things
come to you very clearly, but this game came to
me pretty clearly. I mean, Jesse, remember Tuesday when we
were breaking the game down in our pre show. I
looked in I said, why does Florida not win this game?
Jesse didn't have a good answer for me, and so
we went with Florida on the show to win the game.

(04:57):
So here's why I thought Florida would win this game,
because it's exactly why they did win the game. There's
a funny thing that desperation and bye weeks do to teams,
especially teams that had high expectations. Florida fits that those
parameters are met. Florida had high expectations, at least from
me and from many other people. They have failed miserably

(05:17):
to this point they go into the bye week. I
was particularly rubbed the wrong way with how they had
handled what I thought should be the strength of their
team and the strength of their team. Although it could
be DJ Lagway, I thought was their ground game, and
I had looked so far this year and it wasn't
difficult to see. It's one thing if you don't run

(05:39):
the ball. Because you can't run the ball, that hasn't
been the case at Florida. So to prove to you
that you're not wasting time watching this show during the
week if you only come around here Sundays, we got
to have decent read on the game sometimes, So Bradley
tee it up. Here's what we said Florida needed to
do to win the game Tuesday. Roll it. Frankly, I
don't have much to go on, but I'm hoping some

(06:01):
things change for Florida coming out of the bye week.
There are one hundred and sixth and explosive pass rate
right now. I think they got to take multiple shots
in this game. Is it a high percentage chance? No,
it's not. But if you don't convert them, you got
a no percentage chance. You gotta fully commit to the run.
Right now, you're sitting at five point nine yards per carry.
Jaden ball is and yet I watched the LSU game
and he carried it ten times. And I watched the

(06:22):
Miami game and he carried it twelve times. These are
not blowout games. These are very close games, and they're
just not giving him the ball. I have no idea
why I think Florida is going to find a way
to win the game. I'm just telling you, I don't
think there's that much separation between the teams.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Good call, Josh Hey, paper popper, paper popper. What if
I told you Billy Napier watched every second of that episode,
which I can't prove, but I suspect. And they gave
Jaden Ball the ball more times last night or yesterday
than he had in the LSU and Miami games combined.
And you will never believe it, but he topped one
hundred yards. You're not going to run the ball for

(06:58):
six yards per carry on.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Texas they're pretty good contrary to recently popular belief, Texas
really good defensively. But he averaged four yards per Carrie.
And you know what that did once you proved that
you'd stay committed to it. That was part one of
last week's preview, Part two. You know the follow up
there that I alluded to is maybe that's when the
explosive pass game opens up for DJ a little bit.

(07:20):
Wouldn't you know that he had two passes of fifty
plus yards yesterday, which matches what they had had through
the first four games of the season. I am not
a play caller, I'm not an offensive coordinator. I don't
even wear headsets when I do podcast. But that's how
easy the Florida offense was to figure out on the surface.
That's how easy it was. I would put it another way.

(07:42):
One of the biggest fears that Texas had to have
had going into that game is, you know, I hope
they don't commit to the ground game that it suck.
I hope they keep doing what they've been doing well
when you're desperate and you go into a bye. My
entire thinking behind picking Florida is the last thing they're
going to keep doing is what they've been doing that
hasn't given them results. Again, people who don't even watch

(08:03):
football could understand this logic. So rushing attempts in this
game not a padlock stat but significant because if you
told me Friday, Billy and them are going to run
the ball thirty seven times, I would have been comfortable
with the outcome. I had already picked Florida. I'd be
comfortable with the outcome. No guarantees, but you know why

(08:23):
I'd be comfortable because I do trust the personnel there.
I do trust that offensive line is good enough. I
certainly trust that the tailbacks, specifically the one I just referenced,
are good enough. And then seven to fourteen on third down,
it's just all the tumblers started falling into place. Now.
I saw our buddy will Compton, who had notably ridiculed

(08:44):
me for the Florida pick earlier in the week. He
said something along the lines of what a lot of
people were thinking watching this, and that's where's this Florida
team been all year? Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Pretty much
copy and paste in what you were saying about this
time last year. The difference is this time last year
they had a quarterback injury which necessitated DJ Lagway being
inserted as the starter, and then pooh, just mushroom cloud,

(09:07):
Florida blows up in the best of ways down the stretch. Well,
they didn't have that. I'll tell you what they do have, though.
They got a quarterback that didn't participate in spring and
is still pretty green when it comes to starting experience
say all that to say this what if bold concept
I'm gonna throw out here on the show tonight. What
if every team that's gonna be good is not ready

(09:29):
to be good by week one? What am I saying
about Florida? I don't know that I am saying anything
about Florida. I'm just asking something. I'm just tossing it
out there for the class to dissect here at Payton State.
What if, and let's use Florida as an example. What
if Florida was destined to play at the level that
you'd be accustomed to the number eight team in the

(09:49):
country playing at, but they weren't gonna meet that into
a week six? Is that possible answer? Of course, it's possible.
Is that Florida? I don't know. That's why they're gonna
make them play the rest of the games. And in
case you haven't noticed, Florida's got a tough one. So
they're right back on the road in college station this
Saturday night. But there is there is a narrative. We

(10:14):
have to acknowledge the narrative that's been floating around, and
that is when you got LLLLL there. If you're watching
on the screen ll there's three losses in a row.
That tends to make the natives very restless. They have
been at Florida. They should be at Florida. There hasn't
been much patience for Billy Napier and his staff. There
shouldn't be because you've given him all the patients they needed.
They haven't delivered so far this year, which led to narrative.

(10:37):
And the overwhelming narrative around Billy Napier was it's a
foregone conclusion he's going to lose his job. I bought
that last year, and then he didn't lose his job.
So then we came into this year and it started again,
and I'll, you know, I'll repeat what I've heard on
the show. So last week I told you, hey, that's

(10:59):
what I'm hearing again. It's a foregone conclusion. But then
you'll notice I followed it up with I don't know
that I share that belief, because if it's if he's
still there, then he's got an opportunity to win. And
the crazy thing that can happen when a team does
not quit on a coach and they're really talented and
take pride in their performance like Florida does, is they

(11:19):
can mess around and win games. So if it's a
foregone conclusion, he's gonna be gone eventually, he needs to
be gone immediately, or else you're gonna screw around and
let him win games again. Now I like Billy Napier,
so I hope he wins every game he coaches. It'd
make me look good because I predicted him to go
to the playoff. But what I'm saying is, I had
a buddy text to me this morning, actually like ten
of them saying, this just prolonged the inevitable, right, And

(11:42):
that's the general consensus. I even think amongst Florida fans. Oh,
this prolonged the inevitable. I don't know that. You don't
know that. We can think, we can assume, we can guess.
You don't know that. How do you know it prolongs
the inevitable? Or in other words, are you telling me
that if he doesn't lose another game, he's still gone?
Because if you can't tell me that, then it's not

(12:03):
inevitable because you don't know what the results are gonna be.
Because I'm telling you, if you didn't watch Florida yesterday
and you just saw the final score, that team is
still fighting for him, just like they did last year.
They've still got A and M. They still got Georgia,
they still got Ole missed, they still got Tennessee. They
still got a lot of tough teams. But here's what
that also means. They're playing a bunch of teams that

(12:24):
are right in the thick of the SEC championship race.
And before people just say they're out of the SEC
championship race, no they're not. They got one conference loss.
Their losses are USF and Miami. Now you may think
the first of which was inexplicable, and I agree with you.
It doesn't count against your conference record. So they're just
one of a few teams with a conference loss. Now,

(12:46):
they got a much tougher conference slate still to go,
and yesterday could be a one off. All these things
are possible. But I'm not in this camp that this
is just prolonged the inevitable. If Billy gets fired, he
gets fired. But that's not inevitable to me. If you
think it's inevitable, I don't think you've paid a whole
lot of attention how Scott Strickland runs an athletic department.
By the way, Dallas Wilson, who, Man, what a difference

(13:10):
getting players back makes Rivals top fifty player. He shined yesterday,
there's still as much as people had given up on him.
And I don't blame you if you did. Florida's still
one of the most dynamic teams in the country. If
you just watch him yesterday, that's a one off. But
if you just watch them, that's a really dynamic athletic team.
So I don't think it prolonged the inevitable. But you

(13:32):
know what, I get the distinct impression that's not why
a lot of people tuned in tonight. I think a
lot of people tuned in because Texas lost. Shame on you, people,
come on now. Oh no, no, no, shame on you.
No shame on you at all. You know what they
did to me last week. I appreciate some of you
for defending my good honor on the internet, But I

(13:53):
need to fight this battle. Battle's over, we won, but
I still I still need to walk across the battlefield
and I see some movement still, and so we need
to take care of that. In case you didn't notice,
last week, most people picked Texas to win the game. Okay,

(14:16):
I picked Florida to win the game. Okay, this sort
of thing happens all the time. Sometimes you hit it,
sometimes you don't. Community, but just me in Texas here,
I think we need to have a little talk because
some of you have completely lost touch with your own team.
You have completely some of you have lost the ability
to see your own team. And instead of admitting I

(14:36):
don't have a good feel from my own team, you've
backed into a corner, you know, like a raccoon, and
you've been or, to use a metaphor that memal would
probably understand, You've chased the raccoon up the tree and
it is not happy. And at that point, if you've
ever chased a raccoon up a tree, the raccoon is
not up there thinking logically. It's in survival mode. It

(14:59):
does not want want to debate you. It does not
want to chase logic or talk with you in reasoned terms.
It's it's on edge, hair's on hair standing up, It's
on edge. That was Texas fandom last week. So I
commit the crime of picking Florida to win the game,
which ended up being the right side, and for that crime,

(15:24):
I was called, among other things, out of pocket. You know,
you can't just disagree with someone. You can't have a
difference of opinion anymore. If someone differs an opinion with you,
it's cause they're out of pocket. I am a sellout.
You know who you are. Cringey takes have become cringey.
I got a clickbait payt dropped on me again, a

(15:45):
term that I should have trademarked a long time ago.
I was called a Texas hater. I think every hour
on the hour for the rest of the week. I
was called an aggie. I was called some things that
rhyme with aggie. I was called a text agg's liquor.
And these people didn't show up today for again my

(16:06):
crime of accurately predicting a Texas loss. How did no
one else see this? How did you not see this?
Arch Manning took six more sacks, he had two more picks,
He was fifty five percent. And I don't even throw
it in his lap. He doesn't have any time to work.
His offensive line is just not good right now. Their

(16:26):
job there is to develop and coach them up and
eventually get them to be at least somewhat competitive. But
the thing that I keep going back to is they
didn't get aggressive in the portal on the offensive line,
and I assumed it was because they were very comfortable
with who they had on the offensive line. And I
think that was right, and I think they were wrong

(16:47):
so far this year. He was also their leading rusher.
Their tailbacks had nine rushes for eleven yards yesterday. This
is not new, is the point? Like everyone started to
run their mouth because they beat Sam Houston, who got
smoked Friday night by I can't remember which high school
it was. They got smoked Friday night. Texas hadn't fixed anything.

(17:09):
The bye week didn't fix anything. Calling it out doesn't
make you a hater. It just makes you a truth teller. Now,
if you're allergic to the truth, then that doesn't make
the dude telling the truth the bad guy. That doesn't
cast aspersions his way, it cast aspersions your way. You
guys know how rarely I use that term aspersions. So

(17:29):
now they go into the Red River shootout in their
favored against Oklahoma. I knew that was gonna throw people
for a loop because I knew they were gonna be favored.
A lot of you are thinking, oh, that's caused Mateer
is out. No, that's not what that point spread means.
That's not what that means. That's actually I think, assuming
he may play, I think that may be baked into
that number. No, No, Texas is just power rated above
Oklahoma still in the minds of some oddsmakers. If you disagree,

(17:54):
you can go to FanDuel and bed it. But now
the talk starts with them. Talk starts with Texas. This
was a preseason number one. They were favorites to win
the SEC. They were right up there with favorites to
win the national championship. And now they're a two loss team.
Before the Red River Shootout, and somebody out there in

(18:15):
August presented the scenario, what if an undefeated Oklahoma faces
a three and two Texas in the Red River Shootout?
And I'll let you guess who that was and what
the comments were like under that video. Anyway, here we are.
So now that we've beaten Texas down, I want to
tell you they're not dead. Texas is not dead at all.

(18:37):
Texas could do the exact same thing Florida just did,
and that is continue to put the keys in the
ignition and have it not turnover, and have it not turnover,
and have it not turned over and all of a
sudden it turns over. It just you wish it would
have turned over immediately out of the garage in week one,
and instead it took until when maybe Oklahoma. It's no guaranteed.
They could suck Saturday. They could give me thirty eight ten,

(19:00):
or it could turn over. I will say I never
give up on buildings with that much talent in there.
I never give up on buildings with that good coaching
staff in there. Now about that coaching staff, they are
realizing they got to squeeze the sponge a lot harder
than they expected to have to squeeze the sponge. There's
still enough water in there. It's just that at Texas,

(19:22):
you recruit and you portal at such a level where
you used to about eight or nine times out of
the year showing up in your helmet being good enough
to win, that's not the mentality. But you know in
the back of your mind you can bring your C
plus game in many of these Saturdays and you're gonna win,
or maybe not. So what they're finding is just just
got to squeeze the sponge harder. Are not the only

(19:42):
ones finding that out right now? The whole new era
of college football is showing that to a lot of people.
But I just want to say good on Florida. Good
on them. There were a lot of folks who were
really mouthy last Tuesday and Wednesday Thursday that are ghosts. Today.
I still hadn't seen the longhorned Lambow guy. The reason
I know that he means what he says is because

(20:02):
he has a car in his profile picture. Where's he?
Where's anyway? It's not that I hold grudges. I don't
know why anyone would ever think that, just because I
remember the names of individual Twitter profiles. Absolutely not guys
all joking aside. It was a tough week to be
picking Florida last week, so I'm not rooting. I'm not rooting,

(20:26):
but I did do a little fist bump when I
saw that Florida pulled that out yesterday. Now it's up
to me to convince people that Texas is not dead,
and that is forty eight hours before we have to
pick the ou Texas game Tuesday. Quick trip can get
you there. They fuel the Fall Don't Live tour. We
were down in Tallahassee last night and that was a
good one. That was a really good trip. We hadn't

(20:47):
been down there for a game in a long time.
Would go back, Absolutely, would go back, But that begs
the question, of course, there's a really interesting slate this
week of games. Where do we go? Where do we go? Now?
You should know, yeah, you should know that there's some
things in Nashville that I need to attend to Saturday

(21:08):
night early Sunday morning, which has impacted our decision making here.
But there are a lot of good games to choose
from this week. So I'm going to choose a place
where the last time we went there was a field storming,
there was a walk off field goal, and there was
a field storming. I'm going to choose a place that
I have badly wanted to get back to ever since

(21:29):
that place is Columbia, Missouri. We are going to visit Eli,
Drinklettzs and France Alabama in town this Saturday. Three and
a half point home dog there interesting, very interesting. Yeah,
And it's an eleven am kickoff. And I haven't spoken
for quite a while about my affinity, my love for
early kickoffs, but it's time. It's time to revisit that

(21:52):
because we love them. So we're going to be there
and we are looking forward to it, and then the
rest of the slate that day is loaded too. This
could have been Indiana at Oregon. I think we're gonna
see Orgon a couple of times later in the year.
That factored into the decision. There also obligations later in
the day factored into the decision here. So several good choices,
several right choices. But via quick trip, we will be

(22:15):
in Columbia, Missouri Saturday, looking forward to it. There's nothing
wrong with your audio. I just saw the piece of
paper that popped up in front of me. Bradley, you
mind if I take a sip of water. I'm gonna
take a sip of water. We're about to talk Penn State.

(22:38):
Just if everyone wants to settle into their chairs. Okay,
so we have some breaking news on the show, and
I'm gonna need to find it from myself. So if
you'll just hold on a second, We've been waiting for
this all day. Let's see, as of twenty minute minutes ago,

(23:01):
the James Franklin game tweet or game week tweet has
come out. Game Week. Let's do this together and go
one to O nitty Nation Northwestern, Northwestern, Northwestern. It's just
tradition he does it every week. There were some people
wondering if he was going to do it this week,
and he has travel set him back a little bit today,

(23:23):
but he has tweeted it out all right, Boy, oh boy.
I have never been asked about a segment more than
this one. Throughout a Sunday, UCLA beat Penn State in
what I would call easily the most stunning outcome of
the season so far, and in terms of Penn State football,
the most stunning outcome I remember maybe in my lifetime.

(23:46):
I don't really know. I can't remember what happened when
I was eight years old. I will give it credit.
This was the most out of nowhere four and a
half chili game I've ever seen. A lot of my
former colleagues, the esteemed Jennifer Dell included, we're working this game,
and candidly, I don't think they really expected what they got.
That's why you play the games, though, That's why God

(24:07):
has us play the games. We got to honor the
rule around here. The rule is we talk winners first.
I'm just telling you, flat out respectfully to Ucla, ninety
eight percent of this is going to be about Penn State.
But you deserve the spotlight. UCLA was there to play dead.
That's what their job was. Their role, even according to
me last week, their role was to just make sure

(24:30):
the lights are on in the stadium, make sure you
unlock the locker rooms, and make sure you show up
on time. But this is Penn State's get right spot.
This was the medicine they needed, and they got poisoned.
Penn State got poisoned. Nobody told UCLA. Nobody told them
what the role was, so they had the audacity to
show up and compete. Now take you a long way,

(24:53):
it really will. Niko Aamaliava ends up playing the game
we all waited for him to play at Tennessee. Unbelievable
effort yesterday. Nico's taking a fair amount of criticism. I've
been critical of him, but I will tell you Nico
and Maliava played out of his mind yesterday. Just all
things considered, I mean, think about what was expected versus

(25:14):
what you ended up getting. Think about how inexplicable Jim
Knowles and Penn State played him. But that's only part one.
You still got to take advantage of it, and he
took advantage of it. And I will tell you one
thing in the Big Ten. That's been a hallmark for
a long time is the middle to lower tier teams
in the Big Ten never have dynamic quarterbacks. It's one
of the big differences you notice about the Big Ten

(25:36):
in the SEC when you play like that bottom half
of the Big Ten, they never have dynamic quarterbacks in
the SEC. Mississippi State can randomly have a future first
round draft pick a quarterback, just mentioning them generically, like
Arkansas of Kentucky. Like randomly, they can just have one.

(25:57):
What you saw yesterday, and you saw a very bad
u cla team that just happens to have a seven
figure per year quarterback who came from Tennessee. And we
all remember that story. So unbelievable. Okay, congrats, I mean, well,
I'm going to talk about UCL a little more at
the end. Not a golf clap, just a full throated
clap for you. This is about Penn State. Here's where

(26:19):
my head was at yesterday. I was getting to see
bits and pieces of this game live. We were headed
into dope Campbell Stadium at Florida State. And so you
know you're first off, you gotta check and see if
your app's working right. This is one of those games.
It happens about two or three times a year. There's
a score that starts coming in that's so shocking, so jarring.

(26:40):
You think to yourself, Oh, the app's messed up. It
means Penn State's up twenty seven to seven. And then
you look and you go to like another website and
they all say the same thing, and you ask your buddy, Hey,
you gotta score on this YouTube TV. You got it
pulled up. Well, there it is in living color. Yeah,
oh wow, that's the real sk So I was in

(27:03):
complete and utter disbelief at witnessing this. I don't remember
every Penn State game I've ever watched. I just remember
none of them have ever hit me in the face
like this. Two eighty five to ninety two I think
was the yardage edge at the half. So I will
tell you a first that happened today. We do the

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Sarah McLaughlin Special every week. Hold on just a second,
press We do the Sarah McLaughlin Special every week. I
have never had members of a fan base collectively demand
that I make their team the Sarah McLaughlin Special until today.
It's almost like the fan base has resigned and they
want someone to hurt other than them. I know that's

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Jesse's attitude. He's been moping around here all day. So,
ladies and gentlemen, where else do we go but State
College Pennsylvania by way of Pasadena, California. Penn State is
the Sarah McLaughlin Special. They were twenty four and a
half point favorites entering the game, and they were down
twenty at the half. James Franklin, Jim Knowles, Andy Kolniki,

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making a combined forty seven billion dollars per year, got
beat by a first time ever thirty three year old
play caller who I kid you not, admitted he didn't
even know how to work the headset during the game,
and a coach making his P four debut. UCLA is
so horrible. They entered the game zero to four. This season,

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they lost two games to the G five. They got
beat by New Mexico thirty five to ten, and they
scored on the first five drives. They put up forty
two on gym Knowles, they went six for six in
the red zone. They ran it for two seventy They
punted once in the first quarter, Josh. The entire game

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against Penn State, they punted once they had a nineteen
minute edge in time of possession. They went ten of
sixteen on third down. They went from having not held
the lead this entire season to never trailing in this game.
K Tron Allen just mind boggling, averaging six yards of

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touch had two touchdowns yesterday, nine carries in the game.
I don't even know how to explain it. I have
no idea. Penn State is the first Top ten team
to lose to an zero to four team or worse
since nineteen eighty five. And when reached for comment, producer Jesse,
the most loyal Penn State, a lum slash fan that

(29:34):
I have ever met, was quoted as saying, I'm out,
and then he walked out of the room. The Sarah
McGlaughlin special the easiest one of the year. Penn State
implodes at the hands of UCLA, Clemson, and Penn State

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somehow returned everything that you think a team needs to
compete at the highest levels, and they regressed. And I
always caution on the show about not getting carried away
with returning starters returning production, but returning production was kind
of important, and they had a lot of it, and
then the production they didn't have like at wide receiver

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they went and got via the portal and they're just worse.
And there's several theories out there as to how. But
you remember what I said last week, because I really
meant it. I wouldn't say stuff like this if I
wasn't intentional about it. I told you after the Organ game,
I'm not prone to flying off the handle and knee
jerk reactions and hyperbole after one loss. The Organ game

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was not one game, and I'm not sure outsiders really
understood that as much as people close to Penn State did.
The Organ game was a referendum game. The Organ game
wasn't even like a report card or a midterm. It
was kind of a final exam in a sense that
if you failed the final exam, it was kind of done.

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Anything thereafter didn't matter. Now, what I underestimated was how
immediately the team would reflect that. I expected the fan
base to reflect it immediately, and they did. Like a
lot of them said, that's it, this was the one
we can't get it done against them. We'll never get
it done under this guy. I'm out. A lot of
them said that last week. I've never seen Penn State's

(31:22):
team say that I've never seen collectively the energy given
off by the organization say that until yesterday, and I
just underestimated how immediate it would be. Landon tang Well,
who by the way, does a great, great job kind
of covering Penn State, covers a little beyond Penn State
in the Big Ten. I highly recommend you give him

(31:42):
a follow. But I saw him say this last night,
he said after Oregon's win over Penn State. Josh Pate
said he thought the loss marked a new trajectory for
Penn State football, but he wasn't sure if it was
positive or negative. Well, you got your answer quickly. He's right,
He's right. I spoke about timelines a lot last week,
and just to remind people in case you missed last

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week's show, remember we're at that point, twenty four hours
on the heels of Oregon beating Penn State. Penn State
folks are distraught at this point, not even knowing what
was coming down the road. But they were distraught at
this point, and I didn't lean away from it. I
leaned into it. And here's what we said about the
timeline and how the Oregon loss changed everything on last

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week's show. I think last night's result began a new
timeline for Penn State football, and I have no idea
which one it is, because it could be that it
began a trajectory that ends with James Franklin not at
Penn State anymore in like three years or something like that.
And I'm not saying fired. I don't even know how
it would happen. I'm speaking hypothetically. I'm just saying I

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could envision three years from now Franklin's not there anymore.
And the conversation is, you know, this really began with
that organ game a few years back. Nothing was ever
the same after that. It could be that, But I'll
tell you what else it could be. It could be
that James Franklin looks himself in the mirror and says
exactly what I just said. That was as good as

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it's gonna get with my current way of doing things here.
Last night was the end of James Franklin's Penn State
one point zero, and tomorrow begins James Franklin Penn State
two point Oh. Well, here we are in the two
point zero era. Look, I don't know how they get
it back. There are no guardrails here. They're sort of

(33:28):
off the cliff. Now, we've never been here before. So
the entire time James Franklin's been at Penn State, there
have been a lot of big games they've been in
and they've lost. And up until about five minutes ago,
I always went back and forth on the show with
a lot of viewers, even some Penn State fans, because
they kept getting close and they kept just bumping their
head against the wall instead of breaking the wall down.

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And then people would yell, oh, James Franklin's overrated, and
I would say, no, he's not. No one rates him
top five, but they rate him in the five to
ten range, which is exactly where a guy should be
who beats everyone in the ten to twenty range but
falls against the teams and coaches that tend to be
in the one to five range. And I was okay

(34:11):
with that because that's a really easy team to figure out,
that's a really easy coach to figure out. And I'll
defend him if people say he's overrated, I'll defend him
because he's winning the games that you know, odds makers
kind of indicate he's supposed to win, and he's losing
the ones they say he's supposed to lose. But those
were the guardrails, and the guardrails are gone now. You know,
in Tennessee and in rural Pennsylvania, central Pennsylvania, they have

(34:34):
a lot of mountainous terrain, and so sometimes, like if
you've ever flown into Harrisburg and you try to drive
to State College, it's not light. Landing in Wichita and
driving to Kansas City or vice versa. That's a straight
shot and you can see six miles in any direction.
Sometimes you can't see sixty feet in any direction when
you're driving through hills, but you feel a little sense

(34:56):
of comfort because they're guardrails, so that even if worst
case scenario happens and some guy side swipes you or
you have a blowout, the car's going to hit the guardrail.
That's been penn State football for a long time. I
have felt such at ease that even at the worst,
we're not really getting that far off the road. There

(35:16):
are no guardrails anymore. Guardrails are gone. That's what I
meant when I said the Oregon game was a point
of no return for the James Franklin one point zero
way of doing things. There's no going back to the
way it was so Now when you look at the
fact that they still got to play Indiana, and they
still got to play Nebraska, and they got to go

(35:37):
to Iowa, they go to Ohio State, they go to
Michigan State, they will lose one or more of those games,
and there's no limit to how bad it could be.
You thought the floor on this team may be nine
to three. I heard many people say in the preseason,
this is the most slam dunk playoff team there is.
They're not going to go to the playoff. They will

(35:58):
not go to the playoff. In fact, they may be
closer to flirting with seven or eight wins than they
are nine or ten wins. And so for the first
time in a decade, it's about how long he's been there,
total unfamiliar territory, and I don't really know how to
process it. I know a lot of you don't know
how to process it. But here's the difference. Okay, So
when I said what I said, here's what I expected

(36:19):
to happen. I expected there to still be guardrails. I
expected that there was a worst case scenario that of
course included a loss to Ohio State, and who knows,
maybe even one more and that's eight and four. But
then James gets to the end of the season and
makes a lot of changes that he knows he needs
to make, and he course corrects and he defines a

(36:41):
little different way they're going to do this and that.
But you can't do that in the season. Well, the
problem with making decisions as a head coach, which you
get paid a lot of money to do, is once
you make them, you've made them. You don't get to
make new choices on your staff. You don't get to
change your recruiting philosophy, you don't get to portal in
new players in week seven. You're stuck with what you're

(37:02):
stuck with. And it's no different than if you're driving
somewhere and you miss an exit and you're on the interstate.
You know you missed the exit, but the GPS says
the next chance you have to turn around is three
and a half miles down the road. Imagine someone's in
the back seat and they keep kicking you in the
back saying you're going the wrong way. Hey, we missed
our exit. You're going the wrong way. Hey, hey, hey,

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where are we going? We're supposed to be back there. Well,
you know that you know that. The difference is they
just get to keep saying that even though you know
good and well, you already know what they're saying before
they say it. But you can't fix it. You can't
fix it because you got three and a half miles
to go. James Franklin can't fix a lot of this
because he's got an entire season left to go. And
that's even if he plans on fixing anything. Was my point.

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I don't know, because I can't get in his head.
I don't know if he even sees fit to fix anything.
I just know they missed the exit on this season.
They totally missed it. And now the the question that
a lot of people are asking is should they fire him.
I have no clue how you even do that. It's

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fifty six million dollars to pay if you want to
fire him. First off, I don't even wade into those waters.
That's not my money, So I'm not send here telling
anyone else out to spend it. And I know, even
if we were to look at James Franklin through the
harshest of lenses, if you apply the logic lens on there,
you do still have to bake him the opportunity for

(38:28):
him to just have a down year. I'm not holding
him to a different standard than I'm holding a lot
of other coaches at high level programs too, because I've
said that about some coaches at other high level programs.
But okay, let's just say that's unacceptable to you because
it's your program. It's not my program. So if it's
unacceptable to you, what's going to happen to him is

(38:48):
up to him. I mean, be real, now, you're not
paying fifty six million dollars to buy him out. Now,
if we get to the end of the season and
something happens where a mutually agreed upon reduced buyout is negotiated,
I don't know why he would do that, but maybe
he does. Okay, well, that could change the calculus if
he were to take another job, of course, that changes

(39:11):
the calculus. Follow up question is which job would it be. Frankly,
I think there could have been some in play up
until this weekend that aren't in play anymore. So I
don't even know what would be on the radar there.
I just know that they're still in the back corner
of my mind. Actually in the front of my mind.
There's a whole part of me that loves James Franklin.

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He's been great to us, so I root for him.
But he knows all this is true, can't find it.
I do. One thing I wonder is and you're not
gonna get this out of him, probably ever, and you
especially wouldn't get it out of him in the middle
of the season. I wonder if he looks at anything
and unequivocally says that I will change once I get

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to the end of the year. This person will not
be here anymore once I get to the end the year.
That we cannot know. That we cannot know, but I
will tell you one thing. There's still a long way
to go in that season. And those are a lot
of players and a lot of coaches who returned in
many cases with one goal in mind, and that goal's

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probably out the window. Mathematically, they're not eliminated, but just
looking at the quality of play and knowing there's not
a whole lot of mystery about this team. It's not
like this team's going to improve thirty percent in this
compartment or this category. You kind of got what you got.
They're probably going to lose more games, and there's just
a lot of things I'm worried about with Penn State
football product on the field that I've never worried about before.
But I will tell you, if you were agnostic to

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this game, if you didn't have a rooting interest, if
you just kind of were watching, if you were watching
that CBS feed, something happened in it that I didn't
know about because I wasn't able to watch it live.
So I went back watched a lot of the games
this morning, and sometimes I'll watch all twenty two copies.
Sometimes I'll watch broadcast copy. I chose to watch the
broadcast copy of this game because I wanted to know

(41:00):
how it felt. I also love for games that are upsets.
I don't just want to watch the plays. I want
to feel when did it start to set in? Like
when did the vibe? When did the mood start to shift?
When did the broadcast team go from here we are
because we're supposed to be here to Oh wow, underdog
got out of the gate kind of hot today too.

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This could actually happen, Well, it happened pretty quick in
this game. But the most awesome thing I saw was
I was texting back and forth with Adam Zucker because
he is in studio for the Big Ten on CBS
during the game, you see him. They tossed to and
fro from the studio in New York. And I've gone
up there and worked with those guys when I was
at CBS several times. And I've worked with Rick Neuheisel

(41:44):
several times. I've been in studio when we're watching games
that we're going to do reports on at halftime, like
they're gonna come to us for studio coverage. And so
I've sat next to Rick new Heiseel several times and
we're just watching games on the desk. Brian Jones over there,
we're just watching games on the desk because we're we're
gonna be the halftime for the game. So I've already

(42:07):
known the vibe that he gives off and what it's
like watching a game with him. All I ever did
when I went to New York was I had Rick
sit there and tell me UCLA stories and Washington stories
and USFL stories and watch games with him. Awesome. You
just keep your mouth shut. You were like a sponge.
You learn a whole lot. Okay, So the situation at
UCLA this week was head coach is gone. So you've

(42:30):
got an interim head coach, Tim Skipper. Then they let
go of the offensive coordinator and they elevated Jerry Neuheisel,
Rick new Heiseel's son, to offensive coordinator, and Rick is
doing studio coverage for the pre halftime in post of
the game that Jerry is now the offensive coordinator in

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And it didn't dawn on me till this morning. I thought, wait, wait, wait,
that was the CBS game, which means Rick must have
been in New York, which means he was watching his
own son be the offensive coordinator for the game. And
then I text the Zucker and he said, oh buddy,
and he just started firing off videos to me. And
some of you saw this. A lot of you saw this.
If you didn't see this yesterday, this is unbelievable. I've

(43:12):
had this vantage point just never watching Rick watch his
own son coach. This was new heiselind Studios yes yesterday.
Roll at Bradley, Let that clock keep going.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Beautiful friggin' job, your son.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
Go sure score, Go for two, Go for two, Go
for two.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Yeah, come on, baby, yeah, is freaking really good?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Maliava, Who did Rick Neuheisel have the slightest clue? That
Niko Yamaliava was going to bring that kind of joy
to his life a few months ago when all that
portal drama was going on. Just goes to show you
once you think you've got college football figured out, it
confuses you all over again. But I watched that like
fifty times this morning. That was unbelievable. Guys, got I

(44:28):
got nothing good to tell you at Penn State. I
wish I did. Jesse was curled up in the fetal
position when I got into work today, and honestly, he
worked out of that posture most of the day. It's
a miracle weave and got the show put together. It's bad.
It's bad. Sister Hazel had this on Long Winter. Give

(44:49):
me a long Winter man, Sorry, I would. I would
recommend you, guys, adopt a team. Just adopted some people.
Adopt a mile on the highway to clean up litter.
Adopt the team or else your minds are going to
go to places you really don't want it to go. Guys,
you have got one of the highest paid coaching staffs
in the country, and they had a staff that, truth
be told, needed the game to kick off at twelve

(45:12):
thirty Pacific because they needed to get to a second
job at Kroger later that night. It was bad. It
was really really bad. And if someone tells you wasn't
that bad, they're lying. It was bad. It's the worst
thing I've seen. It was Bama Vandy last year, except
that was a first year's staff. This staff has been
there in many cases for a decade, like they are
what they are at this point. It was bad. Franklin, Tennessee,

(45:33):
is tuned in. Prescott, Arizona, is tuned in. Battle Creek, Michigan,
home of Rob Bandan, is tuned in. And I appreciate you, guys,
and I just ask, if you haven't already check check
check check if you're subscribed, because like fifty two percent
of you who watched the show are not subscribed, and
it's free and it doesn't sign you up for anything.
It just helps us. And I don't need your help

(45:56):
right now. Jesse really does. He really could use a
pick me up. So if you just rage watch me
and you would never help me to save your life,
Help Jesse, please help. That's where we need the Sarah
McLaughlin music. Help Jesse. Okay, let's move on, Jess. Do
you remember that Kevin Denny song, that's just Jesse underrated

(46:17):
country song from the nineties. I haven't played it for
him in a while. I may play it for him.
I may play it for him a little bit later tonight.
We learned that Derek Rutten watches the show last week,
so maybe Kevin Denny's watching the show. Miami beat Florida
State twenty nine to twenty two. At the game I
was at. This was fueled by quick trip. That's how
we got down there, That's how we got back. It

(46:38):
was a two chali game, though that was masquerading as
a one possession game. If you look at the final there,
Miami was favored by four and a half. They won
by six. That tracks. So we got about the game
we expected right, No, No, we did not. There's no
team in the country that looks like Miami. Guys, that

(47:00):
stadium was unbelievable. That's us showing up amazing. I mean,
in terms of endgame tradition, I don't really think I
don't really think that Doe Campbell and Florida State take
a back seat. If you've never been down there, just
please make a trip down there at least once. Get
you a good night game. Preferably with Miami in town unbelievable.

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But as for the game itself, standing field level, because
I hadn't seen Miami in person this year in a game,
They're a different team than anyone I have seen Ohio
State and Texas in person this year. I've seen Bama
in person. I've seen Georgia in person. I've seen Michigan
in person. There is no team that looks like Miami.

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There is no team that big and that fast and
that physical and that aggressive as Miami nowhere. I don't
know if they'll win their conference. I don't know if
they'll win their national championship. I don't know what they'll win.
I just know they won yesterday, and I know they
have what I would affectionately refer to as creatures all

(48:03):
over the place. And there were a lot of times
last night. If you watched Florida State, you watch Tommy
Castelano's specifically, Tommy Castellanos knows his athletic profile, he knows
what he's capable of. The way you can always tell
a guy's on the field with a different caliber of
athlete is when they do things comfortably because they think

(48:24):
they have time to do them and then they just boom,
space closes, ground closes, and they're almost shocked. They're like,
wait a second, I thought I had room. I thought
I had space. I thought I had an angle. You
do eleven other saturdays of the year. You just didn't.
You just didn't, hear man, And it's not your fault.
It's not your fault. They were just they were created

(48:45):
in a different lab than you. I don't know what
else to say. So it was a weird game because
Miami it felt like they dominated, and then the box
score says, uh ah, so did my eyeballs lie? Does
the box score lie? Because best I could till we
ended the third quarter, Miami's up twenty eight to three,
and yet they got out gained in the game. They

(49:07):
got out rushed third and fourth down edge Florida State.
The turnover game went the other way, and that's a
lot of what decided this. Miami had thirteen penalties for
one hundred and fourteen yards. So the box score is line,
we should just throw it in the trash. The box
score lied here. It's hard. I'll tell you one thing

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I picked up on is Miami got to a certain spot.
Their fan base will tell you this and they thought
they throttled back, and they did because they knew they
had the game in hand. Then it got a little
too close for comfort late and you try and crank
the car back up and you realize, oh, oh, it
needs a little while. I mean, Shannon Dawson sitting there
calling a good game. They're not running the ball worth

(49:49):
anything because Florida State's dictating with numbers that they're not
going to let them, so they're throwing the ball. Carson
Beck's twenty to twenty seven, two forty one through the air,
four touchdowns. Malachi Tony is going off. CJ. Daniels is
going off, and then they don't need to anymore. And
Shannon Dawson, you know, he can back off the accelerator

(50:09):
a little bit. Someone call that going conservative. They would
call it, you know, taking the game out of the
doubt column and into the win column. And then all
of a sudden it's not in the win column, or
maybe it's not, and you try and crank it back
up and it's hard to crank it back up. It
turns out they didn't need it, so Miami wins it.
Malachi Tony's a freak, like not since what was that movie.

(50:33):
Oh not since Rachel Lee Cook took those glasses off
and she's all that has someone so emphatically announced their
arrival to the world as Malachi Tony has so far
this year. It gets incredible seven catches last night, one
hundred and seven two scores CJ. Daniels of five seventy
eight two scores. You remember when A and M went

(50:56):
up to Notre Dame and they want to shootout, and
then A and M came home and they want a
sluckfest against Auburn. I think that about Miami. I thought
they're versatile enough. We call those toolbox teams, meaning they
got enough tools in the toolbox to solve any problem.
You need to score forty five, I can score forty five.
You need to hold someone to under thirteen, I can

(51:19):
hold someone to under thirteen. Miami feels like that kind
of team. The difference is A and M had already
had to prove it, and Miami still really hadn't had
to win a shootout. But man, they've emphatically proved that
they got one half, and I do think they have
the other half if and when they need it. Hadn't
seen them on the road yet. Okay, we've seen them
on the road now, So Miami is a dangerous team.

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I'll talk more about them in a second, because that
doesn't guarantee anything. A lot of people are making irresponsible
predictions about Miami right now. There's no guarantees here. There's
no guarantees. Ohio State won the whole thing last year
and they're playing lights out. There's no guarantees for them.
Miami hadn't won anything yet, so there's especially no guarantee
for them. This is all new for them, at least

(52:02):
this version of Miami. More on them in a second.
Florida State's at the crossroads right now. It's been a
wild first month and a half. When you beat Bama
and I tell you you're still gonna be a two
loss team by the time you play Pitt, you're like, what, Yeah,
I would have been too. So we have terms. We
try and have as much unique language on the show

(52:24):
as possible. One of them that we use every now
and then it's townhouse teams. Townhouse teams. If you understand
the shape of a townhouse, and trust me, I didn't
growing up, because that's Harris County, Georgia. Not many townhouses. Outhouses, Yes, townhouses.
No townhouses though are very tall. There's a high ceiling,
there's a low floor, and that is kind of how

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Florida State profiles. And you saw the roof in week
one against Alabama. You saw, if not the floor, pretty
close to it against Virginia and yesterday. Miami's tough man.
They're gonna embarrass a lot of people probably this year.
But you saw Tommy cass total wild card. It's either
it's either ten or it's trash. He's not trash. The

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result can be. There's very little in between with Tommy
Castellanos and three of their five games now he's been
their leading rusher and so there's just a disproportionate amount
of the workload that's on him. And he's not a
great player. He has ceiling, he has peaks where he
can touch greatness very very briefly but consistently. He's not

(53:27):
going to be that. And I mean their longest pass
play was thirty yards yesterday. That was really their shot,
and that's Malson's shot of sucking you in with that
ground game, attacking you on the perimeter, which by the way,
it was huge. Miami held them to three on that
opening drive because once you get to sink your teeth
then I mean we've seen Saban do it to him.
We've seen Kirby do it to him when he was
at Auburn, and now we saw Corey Heathman do it

(53:49):
to him. Once you get him figured out. Now, Yes,
why it's important for malson offenses to strike early. So
they had one pass play thirty yards I think it was.
Miami had four a four plus and that was another
very important aspect of this game that Miami won. So look,
seasons are very long, very long, and that's why early

(54:10):
in the year, when a team looks as good as
Miami does, I'm always careful. Just like when Florida State
looked like they did week one, I mean half the
folks out there were still convinced Florida State was terrible. No, No,
they weren't terrible. We knew that after week one. But
there's this thought that, all right, what we saw in
week one, since we have no other sample size, or
we have no other sample in the size cause it's

(54:32):
one game, that's all we have to go on. So
we'll just assume that you are what we saw in
week one. That's how people lose a lot of money
betting on Week two. By the way, both ways terrible teams,
great teams. You don't have that yet. You got one,
You got one little dot in the cluster so far.
So now we got few more for each team. And
Miami is about as good a body of work as

(54:54):
anyone right now. But Miami's biggest threats Miami, and I
don't mean that disrespectfully, like other teams couldn't beat them,
but I do think they're better than every other team
they're gonna play. But that's if they're fully healthy, which
they are right now. There's no guarantee they will be.
So that's part one of the unknown. Part two of
the unknown is you got a bunch of guys there

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that haven't tasted high end success. Now. That makes them hungry,
but it also makes you prone to complacency if you're
not careful. And the third part, which I'll continue to say,
is the most dangerous part for Miami. Bradley, do me
a favorite throther schedule? Back up? There are a lot
of teams out there that play a really difficult schedule
and they're going to face teams that are their equal

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talent wise, Miami's not the rest of the way. If
Miami loses, it will be a fairly big upset and
they will have lost to an inferior roster. That sounds
like a good thing. Oh, it is a good thing.
That means you've got a really navigable path. Here's what
could be the bad part, and this is Miami controls this.

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You either stay razor sharp and hold yourself to a
standard every week despite the fact that you don't really
need to to win that week, or you let yourself
slip a little bit. Because I'm going to be completely
straight with you, guys, when Stanford comes to town on
October twenty fifth, Miami's C plus effort is plenty good
enough to win that. How do you carry yourself that week?

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Do you carry yourself at an A plus standard no
matter the opponent on Saturday, or do you let human
nature habits creep in knowing it won't matter, because it
won't matter against Stanford it won't matter, But against Oregon
in the second round of the playoff, it will matter.
And if bad habits crept in and got crystallized during
that stretch where you're favored by double digits every weekend

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because you weren't mature enough to handle your business and
hold yourself to a standard. That's what can bite Miami,
and you won't really know it until it comes time
for them to play in a championship situation in Charlotte
or in the playoff. They will be a playoff team.
I got no doubt. What about that? What do they
do when they get there? I watched Oregon walk down

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the one seed and get smoked in Round one last year,
so I don't frankly care what happens in the regular season.
Once we get that's a whole second season. And once
we get there, which they only need to be thinking
about right now, it's a whole second season. What kind
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Where are we at. We're an hour in. There's not

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a ton left. It's just there's a whole lot of
meat on the bone. The over under was an hour
forty three and I'm not Ryan Grubb calling place for
Alabama right now. Okay, I'm not paying attention to the spread.
As I get close to the end of the show,
I'm mad because he costs me money. But that's not
why we're here. We're here to talk about the game.

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Alabama thirty Vanderbilt fourteen. What would we rate this? I'd
rate a solid three child life out of five. I
would hear three and a half, not quite four, but
I would hear three to three and a half. There
was never going to be an overlook factor here. Alabama
was never going to overlook Vanderbilt. Okay, I told the
story a little bit, but now I'll tell you when

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when they walked off the field against Georgia. A lot
of times the winning team, if I know the travel
staff and the coaching staff well enough, I'll go to
that locker room. So I know Alabama pretty well. So
I was over there, I was in there, I was
around the team. They were talking about Vanderbilt before they
left the building. They were talking about Vanderbilt as they
were still loading buses at Sanford Stadium. I had no

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doubt that they had one hundred percent focus on Vandy.
But Vandy's a good team, so they could still compete
in this game because they're a very good team. Even
if they do have your full focus, there's no smoking
mirrors They're just a good team. So the way I
saw this game and the reason I picked Bama to win,
but I thought it would be very competitive, he goes.
Vandy dominated three categories last year's game. They dominated time

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of possession, they dominated turnovers, and they dominated third down.
Penalties also bit Bama in the game. Last year. Bama
won time of possession thirty seven minutes plus to twenty
two minutes plus. Yesterday, they won the turnover battle three
to one. They won third down they had an edge there.

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And penalties they had three for twenty second straight game.
Now they've been penalized less than their opponent. It's a
big deal. It's why they won the game. So they
are lethal in the red zone right now. That to me,
if you want to pop a paper on this game,
that was kind of it. Bama was five of five
for twenty three points in the red zone and Vandy

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was one of three with two turnovers down there, and
that was where the game was decided. Because the game
script itself would have thrown me for a loop. If
you if you told me the way this thing was
gonna start Friday, if you just gave me a little preview,
I would have said Bama screwed. I watched the first

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quarter of this game live. I've since gone back and
watched it like twice, but I was able to watch
the first quarter live, and basically it felt like the
fifth quarter of the twenty twenty four game. It just
felt like they continued playing the twenty twenty four game
because Vandy breaks that long touchdown run and I'm thinking,
you better settle in because it looks a whole lot

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like that game looked for four quarters last year, Like
if this stuff's happening early, it's gonna happen often. I
was of the opinion that if you show me the
first quarter of this game, I'll have a really good
read how it'll turn out. Well, that wasn't the case.
That just was not the case. So I looked at
our buddies at college football nerds. They said something earlier

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today that I totally get. They said, it feels like
Alabama gives up twice as many points as they actually do.
A lot of Bama fans feel that way, and that's
cause you're spoiled. It was Bama fans got used to
watching Jonathan Allen and Ashawn Robinson, and who do they
have behind him? Jaron Reid, some kid named Quinn Williams.

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Is there you ever heard a Christian Barmore? I don't know.
He'll probably start in two years. You just don't have
those guys anymore. I don't really think anyone does. And
so you used to just be able to suffocate people. Well,
that's not the way that you're gonna play defense. That's
not the way you're even gonna pretend to be able
to play defense anymore. And sometimes people really overthink the room.
I'll tell you what the most important defensive stat is

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how many points is the other guy scoring right now?
How many points the other guy have on the board?
Because if it's fourteen, you're probably doing okay. And that's
what Vandy ended up scoring yesterday. It's just they got
seven on the board early and they're moving the ball
down in the red zone a couple of more times,
and you're like, oh, here we go again. But they're
not scoring. They're not scoring, so it's okay, it's okay.

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After the first quarter of this game, Vandy had one
hundred and seventy two yards. The rest of the way,
they had seven points the rest of the way outscored
him thirty to seven after the first quarter, and yet
you're looking and you're saying, oh, come on, Caine, come
on a red zone trip again. Yeah, but we turned
the ball over. Okay, I guess that's okay. Yeah, it's okay,

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it's okay. It's just a style this defense plays with.
So it's not gonna look like eighty five Bears or
twenty fifteen Alabama. It's not going to look like that.
They don't have those kinds of players. They got plenty
good enough players. They just got to execute a little
different kind of plan. If there's a little more bending,
as long as there's not a whole lot of breaking
and the same kind of point totals end up on

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the board, it's okay, guys, it's gonna be okay. It's
a really good win. Remember how helpless you felt last year?
Diego Pavia all over the place, felt like three of
them were on the field. They popped him some yesterday,
They made him confused, they made him look mortal yesterday.
Not something they could do last year. So that's what

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given someone your full attention will do. I think this
offense still has a little different gear. I am very
high on Alabama because they were my National Championship pick.
So I badly need to be right. So I'm wish
casting a lot of this. But I did hear Debor
in the postgame kind of say the same thing. He said,
there's still some stuff we need to click on offense,

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there's still a different gear. I actually agree with him
before I heard him say that. I'm looking at them
and I'm thinking, hey, ground game finally showed up the
audacity of Alabama to have one hundred plus yard running
back in SEC play. You want a paper popper of
a stat. Jam Miller had over one hundred yards on
the ground yesterday. That's the first Alabama running back to

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top one hundred yards in SEC play since twenty twenty three.
Jace McClelland I think did it against Tennessee. They didn't
have one do it last year. They did not have
a tailback rushed for over one hundred yards in a
single conference game last year. So the drought has ended there.
The penalty drought is ending, The running for one hundred

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yards drought is ending. I just think the offense is
obviously trending upwards pretty drastically. Ty Simpson has found himself.
But again, it's not like he's played three years of
this caliber football. It's a few weeks. We've seen a
few weeks of it. We've seen jam Miller back for
now just the second week from injury, Guys like Latzier Brooks,

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Guys like Rico Scott, guys even like Isaiah Horton, who
they brought in from elsewhere. A lot of that stuff
just feels like it's still gelling, which means I think
they still got a lot of upward mobility and they're
already a really really good offense. Not to mention, you've
got the what I would call like the Proctor trailer
version of the offense. Seventy four is just getting a

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touch or two every game. Now. Now, I'll keep my
mouth shut on that. I'm not surprised that they've given
the ball to Caden Proctor. That's what I'll say. In
having observed Alabama practice, I'm not surprised that seventy four
has gotten the ball. I've been there in the summer
and I've watched them work out. It's Proctor just happens

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to be six eight three sixty. I wish you could
just watch him run. I mean, you've seen him run
a little bit, but see. The thing that happens to
a viewer of a football game is your mind your
eyes get calibrated to the game. So your mind and
your eyes get calibrated to thinking, Oh, the wide receivers
are faster than the running backs. The running backs are

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faster than the tight ends. The tight ends are faster
than the linemen. What you don't realize is the linemen
are faster than you because you go and sit behind
a desk all day and you play JV baseball ten
years ago, and you still think you're an athlete. Maybe
you are. I'm just telling you there are guys who
outweigh you times two on some of these teams, that
would flat out smoke you in a foot race. Proctor's

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one of them. He just happens to weigh three hundred
and sixty pounds. So I've watched them work out before,
and I've watched him do stuff that guys that big
aren't supposed to be able to do. And they looked
at it and said, wait a second, this is more
than a novelty act. Like he's a weapon for us.
Let's use him conditionally, And they have the past couple

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of weeks, and I don't necessarily think that's just something
they broke out, wants to laugh at and all right,
well that's done now, that's not going anywhere. They're gonna
do that several more times this year. So Vanderbilt played
a solid game here. This is what happens, Okay, when
you have people's attention and you go into their building
and they are more talented than you, this is the

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result you get. Sometimes they have a buy now and
then LSU comes into Nashville in two weeks. LSU will
be off a game I think against South Carolina. There
are game script teams very important for them to get
a lead that I don't like them having a throw
from behind to catch up. And they had the lead
the whole year, and they had the lead in this
game for a little while, but they weren't able to

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hold on to it. But they have now one conference law.
Bama is undefeated in SEC play. Their loss was against
Florida State's an ACC team. Bama goes on the road
this week. We will be at the game. It's at Missouri.
The line is three and a half. As of today,
Alabama is the significant favorite at FanDuel. I hadn't seen

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these odds today they are the significant favorite to win
the SEC. Well, I say significant. They're plus two hundred.
Georgia and Ole miss are tied at plus six hundred.
Those numbers are fluctuated all year, So good on Bama.
Feels like the Georgia win and then you got the
Vandy win. This week's game is the one I circled

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after the Georgia game. I had no doubt that be
up for Vandy. This is now a third week that
you got to be up. Missouri's coming off of bye
and you got to go into their building. You get
no breaks. Oh, by the way, your reward after that
is you get Tennessee. If you make it through all that,
you're gonna go to South Carolina, I think the next week.
So again, just life, just life in the SEC. Some

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more takeaways that I had from Week six Texas A
and M kind of low key smothered Mississippi State. And
it was bad enough where Brandon Walker was texting me
during the game. That's how bad it was. Complete game
from A and M padlockstat you outrush someone two ninety
nine to seventy seven, you probably won the game. Four sacks,

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nine more tackles for loss. They just wrecked teams. A
and M has a bunch of ways to win games.
People are going to doubt them because of the whole
A and M can't do this and do that thing.
This is one of the best teams in the country.
They play Florida this week. It's going to be an
incredible game. But look at what their stars are doing.
Ruben Owens twenty one carries one hundred and forty two yards.

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Mario Craver touched the ball ten times, one hundred and
fifteen yards in a touchdown. Casey conceptsy on half a
dozen of them eighty three yards two touchdowns. If you
want me to nitpick, I can. Mike elko Lee means
on us to doubt his team. He depends on us
for that. He loves a gloomy media. There's still one

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hundred and twenty third in penalties. We got to get
that cleaned up. Other than that, things are great. Texas
Tech is rolling. Texas Tech beat Houston thirty five to eleven.
They've won every game, but this is a paper popper.
Texas Tech's won every game by twenty four or more
in a league that has been known for its competitive

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balance and parody. Is anyone going to even provide so
much as a speed bump for Texas Tech. They're the
number two scoring offense in the country. They're the number
four scoring defense in the country. I know most of
you haven't watched him. I know you haven't, and you're
not taking them seriously because they're a Big twelve team
and oh wow, cute the best of the Big twelve. Great,

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there're some really good players in Double A. Then they
get called up to the majors. Guys, that is not
what's happening here. What's happening here is a lot of
players who would start and have started in the power
to transfer to Texas Tech. And they're a very good team,
and they're a very dangerous team. And they are not
a team that merely hopes to get to the playoff.

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They are a team you're not gonna want to play
if they get there. So that's a long way away.
I'm just trying to provide the backdrop. This is not
your normal Big twelve situation. It's not I got something
brewing out there in Lubbock. Then I use that phraseology
because I know it fits the hype videos they want
to make. So something is brewing in Lubbock, Texas. They
play Kansas Saturday. Watch them, just watch them. They'll jump

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off the screen to you. There's a major gap, as
you can see in the odds to win the Big twelve.
Texas Tech plus one hundred. Arizona State is next up.
I think they play Utah this week. Ohio State is
such a boring team to watch for the best of reasons.
Right now, if you're not an Ohio State fan, I ask,
how much of Ohio State have you watched since Texas?

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Have you watched them? A lot of you haven't even
watched him because they're so dominant. Oh I forgot. We
wrote this down. This is cruel, so I'll go through
it quickly. They won forty two to three against Minnesota.
Just a body bagging. This is the Minnesota drive chart.
Ere muffs kids. Field goal good. I forgot they scored

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in the opening drive. Okay, well it's downhill from there.
Field goal three and out, three and out, turnover on downs,
three and out punt, brief trip to the locker room.
We're back out, three and out, three and out, missed
field goal punt. It's over, go home night game at
the Shoe. Is that the first one? Since the Tennessee game.

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I think so. Yeah, it turns out Ohio State's pretty
lethal at home at night. Imagine that Julian saying he's
got such a blessed situation right now. He's playing for
one of, if not the best teams in the country,
and he gets to ease his way in because he
knows that the other side of the ball is not
going to give up more than like ten or fourteen
points max. So twenty three of twenty seven for three

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to twenty six and three scores is more than enough.
And they got the number one score in the defense
in the country. Right now, they're good. They're not going anywhere.
My question is how often are they going to get pushed? Like,
is it gonna be one of those situations where we
get to the end of the year where we get
to the Big Ten championship game and Ohio State hasn't
had parts of their team challenged all year? Like I'm

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asking that we'll see Virginia is Virginia's there? They beat
Louisville thirty to twenty seven in overtime. Virginia is still there.
The box scorer is lying to you, this was a
great game. It could have been a forour Chalai Classic
Virginia yesterday, they got out gained three eighty three to
two thirty seven irrelevant first downs. They got out gained

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twenty five to fourteen irrelevant. It's irrelevant because they score
two defensive touchdowns and they're now three and ohero in
acc play because they do this thing where sometimes they
play teams from their conference over there, but they don't
count as a conference game. Again, don't ask me when
I'm commissioner. We're out lawing that practice. But the schedule

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gazers are out do we have Virginia. Wow, we got
Virginia schedule. So I'm gonna tell you if you're listening
on podcasts, there are not high hurdles left on the schedule.
They got Washington State. North Carolina is just a wet
bag of trash right now. They go to Cal. That's

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a cross country trip. That's about what Cal is. Right now.
They got Wake Forest, who we bet on yesterday and
won money on. They go to Duke Virginia Tech. So again,
this is not we can't be doing this because as
soon as we talked about this with Cal, they got
shut out by San Diego State. So we're not pretending
Virginia is elite. What we are doing is saying every

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one of the games remaining is winnable, and as a result,
they have the third best odds to win the conference
right now. They're a distant third behind Miami and to
a lesser extent, Georgia Tech. But did you ever think
you'd check out the ACC odds at the midpoint of
the season and see Virginia with infinitely better numbers than Clemson.

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No me either. Moving on. Tough day for Iowa State yesterday,
but I'll take eleven and one. That's fine. They fell
to Cincinnati thirty eight to thirty. They were beat to death.
I think they were down two corners. A wide receiver
went down. Is this excuse making? Of course it is? Yes,
of course it is. But good on Cincinnati because this

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was a thirty one to seven game, and then good
on Iowa State for fighting back and making it a
one possession game. But the number two spot in the
Big twelves wide open, like right now, Texas Tech's to
clear number one. It could be Arizona State, it could
be Cincy, it could be Utah. Bring Young is undefeated,
it could be TCU. Iowa State is there in that

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little clump of teams, it could be anybody. And lastly,
for a very specific reason, North Carolina got drug all
over their home field. Yesterday, North Carolina got splattered all
over Chapel Hill. Clemson beat them thirty eight to ten.
And that's only cause Dabo took pity on Bill Belichick
at halftime, because this was thirty five to three at

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the half. You gotta be careful with Clemson. I don't
care about this game. There was not even the faintest
hint of a pushback from North Carolina here, and there
may not be when they play Boston College, a team
that's completely lost its way. I am not about to
allow myself to get fooled and the thinking Clemson has
figured things out. You can prove that once you play

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better competition, which you will, because eventually you'll play SMU,
you'll play at Louisville, you'll play FSU, you'll play South Carolina. No,
I'm not doing that again. We're not doing the thing
where you just beat the unranked teams and then fool
everyone into thinking your back and then you're not back. Nope,
we're not doing that again. You got a long way
to go to prove your back. But man, North Carolina

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is a disaster. I don't. I know Mac Brown fairly well.
Mac Brown is one of the best human beings walking
this planet, and he's got a heart of gold. But
even I have to believe that Mac Brown was somewhere
yesterday in a very comfy recliner cashing a massive buyout

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check with a smirk on his face, knowing good and
well he could do infinitely better in twenty twenty five
at North Carolina than Bill Belichick can and will, and
they paid him to go away. The reason I speak
so emphatically is because a blind man could have seen

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that this was not gonna work out. And you are
getting fleece and who knows. Maybe money's not a real
thing to North Carolina, but you're paying ten million of
it in this economy, paying Bill Belichick to just, I
don't know, kind of mess around on your dime, on
your time. I don't know. I thought North Carolina was

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a prouder program than that. The AP is out before
we jet on out of here. The AP is out.
And by the way, we got like twelve million, or
not twelve million, that would be a record, but about
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keep the channel the way it is college football all year.
Imagine that the AP pole is out generated by flex power,
but flex power does not vote in this and I
can tell because there is some exposure happening in the

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AP this week. Now tell you exactly what I mean.
So or producer Jesse and director Bradley is showing you
the AP on the screen right now. Florida State is
twenty fifth. UCF or USF is there now twenty fourth,
they're back, Memphis is twenty third, Iowa State dropped to
twenty two, Arizona State's at twenty one. Now I want

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to tell you what twenty through sixteen is, and then
I'm gonna see if you're picking up on something. Vandy
is at twenty, which is pathetic, but I'll talk about
it in a second. Virginia's nineteen, Brigham Young undefeated is
at eighteen, Illinois at seventeen. Notre Dame is sixteen. Do
you notice something here. Do you notice we haven't named
a couple of names here? Where is Texas? Where is

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Penn State? Oh josh, they lost yesterday. I know they lost,
but they weren't tenth and twelfth. They weren't eighteenth and
twenty second. No. Last week, Texas was ninth, Penn State
was seventh. They were top ten teams. Now, of course,
anybody who watches the games knows that Texas and Penn
State had no business being top ten last week. It

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was stupid last week. Neither of them combined had a
single win over a Power four team last week. But
because of that brand, they were in the top ten.
And now they lost a game. Each of them lost yesterday,
and you're telling me that's enough to knock them out completely.
What you did is you lied one way or the other.

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Either you lied by putting them in the top ten
last week where they had no business being, or you're
lying with how far you just dropped them, especially with Texas,
Like you're telling me Texas was a top ten team
in your mind last week, but they lost by one
possession on the road to Florida, and that's enough to
drop them all the way out. No, what you're telling me,

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is you know good and will They actually weren't even
a top ten team last week. But because you had
to save face because you had them ranked high in
the preseason, even though we got like half a dozen
games under our belt, we still got to acknowledge what
we thought in the preseason. You just had to clean
one more week, didn't you. You made fools of yourselves.
It's not Texas's fault. Texas is just being who they've

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been the whole year. I wouldn't say Penn State's been
what they were yesterday the whole year, but they had
been a top ten team. You got exposed a lot
of you exposed yourselves here Michigan at fifteen, Okay, Missouri's
at fourteen. Why are they that low? Why are all
these one loss SEC teams above Missouri? Is it because

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a body of work? Because you're all the same fools
that had Penn State in Texas top ten with no
quality wins last week? Right, So don't tell me body
of work. Just say the word hypocrisy. Just say it,
Just say fraudulent, just say it. Everyone knows it is.
Everyone knows your ballad is anyway. So Missouri's down there now,
of course, they get their shot this week. I'm not

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upset that they don't have a shot to move up.
I'm upset that the default position is Missouri has to
prove it, whereas Texas and Penn State had continued to
prove they didn't belong, but had to both suffer second
losses before they got dropped beneath where Missouri is now.
Georgia Tech's thirteenth Tennessee twelve LSU eleven. That pack of

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one loss SEC teams ahead of Georgia Tech ahead of Missouri.
Just amazing, just amazing. Sound like, canel Georgia's tenth tell
me something here? Texas Tech is ninth in Bama's eighth.
Why is Alabama ahead of Texas Tech. Well, they've got
better wins, Yeah, they do. Again, you've negated the entire

(01:22:45):
ability to talk about body of work and quality of
wins because of where you had Texas and Penn State
until this week. But Texas Tech's beating everyone they've played
by twenty four or more. They went into Utah and
destroyed them. Houston was undefeated coming into yesterday. They destroyed them,
They suffocated them. Texas Tech sitting there nine huh and

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Bama with a loss is above them at eight. It's
just fascinating. Indiana is at seven. Okay, they're going to
play Oregon this week, seven versus three according to the AP.
We'll see what the commissioner's poll says Thursday. Oh you
is at six. A lot of people have been bent
out of shape because John Mattear's out and they thought
the AP should drop Oklahoma because of their quarterback being hurt.

(01:23:31):
The AP pole is not a projection. It's not supposed
to be. The APE pole is not what you think
teams will end up doing. It's not supposed to be.
It is strictly you being judged based off your resume
to this point, Is it not? Or did I misread
the criteria? It doesn't matter if John Mattier quit football. Okay,

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if he did, Oklahoma will probably go on to lose games,
and then their rankings should reflect that accordingly, it shouldn't
preemptively reflect it. And by the way, he hasn't quit.
No need to freak out. Just got a little issue
if you don't believe me, as Surgeon's been very very
present on message boards talking about it. But oh you
was right where they should be A and m's a

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top five team, ole Miss top five team. How about
us getting a week seven and me telling you in August.
By week seven there will be two SEC teams in
the top five. Okay, Texas and Georgia. Okage, No no, no, no, no,
No one of them's from Texas. In fact, there are
two teams in the top ten from Texas. Neither of
them have that longhorn logo. No, it's going to be

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ole Miss the highest ranked SEC team, and Texas A
and M. I told you it's going to be a
bloodbath in the SEC this year. Oregon's number three, Miami's
number two, Ohio State is number one. What was that, Jesse? Oh? Well,

(01:24:57):
So Vanderbilt is a situation, little AP situation. I ask you,
do you think they're right at twenty? Do you think
Vanderbilt is properly ranked? I don't. I mean I'm asking
because like sometimes I say stuff about the AP and
then a lot of people say, oh no, no, no, no, no, no,

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they're right, they're right. I don't know that about Vandy.
So Vandy kind of the same way as Missouri, kind
of the same way as Georgia Tech. It's that stench
that someone's where they shouldn't be, Like Vanderbilt was always
where they shouldn't be in the AP's eyes. Vanderbilt was

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always kind of trespassing where the big boys are supposed
to be. Vandy's not supposed to be. Vandy is who
the big boys beat to prop up their resume, And
Vanderbilt kept having this audacity to win, and so the
AP reluctantly, you know, just like included them. Then as
soon as they lose to a team that you're telling

(01:25:59):
me the number eight team in the country in their building,
they're down at twenty. And what's funny is Vandy with
a loss, is down here at twenty, but with quality wins.
I mean, Vandy went on the road and smoked Virginia Tech.
Vandy went on the road and handled South Carolina handed lee.
It's redundant. And my question is, all right, Vandy does that,

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But then once they lose, they get dropped. Do you
remember again, I keep going to the same two teams
because it shows the hypocrisy. Do you remember penn Stateton,
Texas sitting there last week and sitting there with no
quality wins and the only good teams they had played
they lost to, kind of like Vandy but Vandy's got
way better wins even now than those two had last week.

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I mean, you know what, you know, Vandy's got that
v logo. Man, if you want to go old school,
they got that star in their logo, and so we
got to drop them. And thank goodness, man took long enough.
I imagine smiles on half of the ballots as they're being
filled out. But did this is Brett McMurphy tweet, because
this kind of encapsulates how insane this has been so far.

(01:27:07):
Preseason AP top ten rankings. Texas was number one. They
are not ranked. Penn State was number two, They are
not ranked. Clemson was number four, They are not ranked.
Three of the top five in the preseason. In fact,
three of the top four in the preseason AP ballot

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no longer ranked. Now the haters, and I am not
a defender of the AP, haters of preseason polls, will
take this as ammunition and they'll say, see, that's why
we shouldn't have preseason rankings. No, I don't see. I
see the AP's been really stubborn in taking so long

(01:27:48):
to drop teams down when they proved to be overrated.
Then no, I don't see any reason not to have
preseason rankings. Preseason rankings are very fun. Preseason rankings are
how you pass the time. Preseason rankings when you're at
your family reunion and Aunt Gretchen is talking about stuff
you have no interest in. That's when you go down
to the dock with Uncle Jimmy and you talk about

(01:28:11):
preseason rankings to pass the time until it's time to
go home. Preseason rankings are a great thing, as long
as you're not married to them. Preseason rankings should be
written in light pencil. Then when the season starts, we
realize one game is worth more than six months of
me talking. The crime the AP commits is they really

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believe what they thought in July carries a ton of weight.
I don't even think that. And I've forgotten more about
this stuff than a lot of you know, so I
know good and well. You shouldn't be thinking that. That
sounded a little douchey. I take that back, like a
quarter of you, not half of you. No, I don't
see that. I don't see it that way. I like
preseason rankings, I just don't like when people won't come

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him Nebraska minus four and a half. All right, we
bet against him yesterday and we covered. It's time to
ride Nebraska minus four and a half. They're playing Maryland,
a team we also bet on yesterday and hit on.
So we got a good read on both of these teams.

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Nebraska's covering four and a half this week. Northern Illinois
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till it's over. As MEMI used to say, but it's over,
it's finished. Appreciate you guys so much. We'll be back
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the JP Poll. We'll have a whole lot to talk about. Man,
I got a feeling it's going to be a very
conversational week around college football until then. For director Bradley,
For producer Jesse, I'm Josh Bate. Take care, have a
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