Week 7 Reaction Show: James Franklin FIRED + SEC Officiating Disaster & AP Poll Reaction

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Look at that stack of papers in my hand, Jesse,
I don't think we've ever had a show like this,
as jam packed, overflowing as a show has ever been.
We're high atop an explosive downtown Nashville, Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Did I not tell you guys? Tuesday night we were.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
About one or two results away from a cataclysmic coaching
carousel kicking into gear. Well it's kicked into gear. James
Franklin has lost his job. He is out as Penn
State head coach. Trent dil For also out at UAB.
I'll let you guess which one we're going to lead
the show with. Although Trent dil For Friend of the
Program Full Week seven reaction. It's Sunday night. A ton

(00:50):
happened yesterday, so we got to talk about all that
on top of James Franklin being fired. The AP pole
is out, and that's about as much as I can
say for the AP pole. But you know what, they're
starting to get their act together. I cannot say the
same for SEC officiating. It is a disaster the likes
of which I don't know that I've seen in a
long time. And if you watched the Georgia Auburn game

(01:11):
last night. Bless you, bless you if you had five
and a half spare hours to watch a four quarter
football game. Really a football game was more the side show.
Officials were the main event down in Auburn, Alabama last night,
because that's what we love about college football and sports
in general, when the players and the coaches don't decide
it so much, but the officials, that's who we really

(01:31):
pay our money to see. Drugs And I'm going to
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oer week and I got two games that I want
to move on tonight. Look, I'm going to talk very
very fast. Number one because I'm hopped up on a
lot of caffeine. And number two because if you listen

(01:53):
to this sound, that is how loaded, that's how jam
packed the show is. There's a lot of gravity when
I drop these papers right now.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
So we got to move tonight or we're gonna be here.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
What was the over under an hour fifty nine minutes,
FanDuel really sharp with those lines. We'll see what they know. Jonesboro,
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As stone Cold Steve Austin would say in Cedar Park, Texas,
I gotta tell you, guys, I gotta tell you, I gotta.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Tell you.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
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Speaker 2 (03:01):
Huge news.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
James Franklin is out as of about lunchtime today as
head coach of Penn State. Fifteen days ago, James Franklin
was the head coach of a top five team up
seven in overtime against Oregon. Today he is out of
a job. He is unemployed as of today. I told

(03:23):
you at the conclusion of that game the following night
that Oregon loss was more than one game, and I
know the glass half full approach to that was, oh,
it's just one conference loss.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well it wasn't. It wasn't.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
If you know Penn State football, you know that was
a lot more than just one loss. The reason it
was a lot more than one loss because that team
was on the brink. It was built in such a
way they hoped that it could compete for the richest
prize that this sport has to offer. The problem with
that in the modern age is if that's how you're geared,
that's how you're engineered your team, and then they realize, uh,

(03:57):
oh we're going to fall short of that. They really
could just take the foot off the gas permanently. And
that's what happened to Penn State football this year. Long
story short, much longer story told. They never should have
gone and higher gym knowles Andy Colet and Nicky married
up and Drew Aler was oil and water offensively, but
that's the longer story. The shorter version is James Franklin

(04:19):
in his twelfth season as the head coach at Penn State,
double digit win seasons the last three years, thirty four
and eight, the last three years, two college football playoff
wins last year, one play away from the national title
game last year.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Is no longer good.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Enough to be the head coach at Penn State. That's
the short version of that. In fact, James Franklin was
so out of place, was so ill qualified to be
the head coach of Penn State now and moving forward,
that they were willing to pay him somewhere along the
lines of fifty million dollars not to coach there anymore.

(04:56):
That's how certain they are. They think they can do
better than James Franklin. I think they're insane, but that's
how much better they think they can do than James Franklin. Now,
I'm old enough to have remembered when Florida was ignorant
enough to feel the same way and got rid of
Dan Mullen. I'm old enough to remember when Auburn was
ignorant enough to think the same way and they got
rid of Gus Malzan. Now there were moments in both

(05:18):
of those respective tenures when I looked and said, I
don't know if Dan Mullen's ever going to win a
title at Florida.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I don't know if Malzan's ever going to win a
title at Auburn.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I have since realized that it is not ten or
trash in college football. It's not the top rung of
the ladder or the bottom rung of the ladder. There
happened to be several rungs on the ladder. That's the
nature of a ladder. And in the coaching profession, you
got the best, you got the worst, and most guys
are somewhere in between. And James Franklin, by my estimation,
was way closer to the top than the bottom. But

(05:50):
Penn State is sure that they can do better than him.
So they're going to pay, in this economy, fifty million
or so dollars to prove it to themselves. That's not
to mention what they're going to have to pay the
new staff, and we don't even know who that's going
to be. I've got thoughts on it. In a second,
I have listen, I need to be very respectful here.

(06:10):
I've got one in my midst right now, and I
got thousands upon thousands watching and listening. I know Penn
State fans were tired of him. I know what your
standard is for your program.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I'd feel the same way. I'm up there a lot.
I love Penn State.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
You think you should be competing for national championships because
you invest every bit emotionally and financially to the same
degree that Ohio State does. Ohio State just won a title.
Ohio State's won multiple titles in most of your lifetimes.
Why can't you I get that logic, completely understand it.
I'm also respectful that this is your program. This is
not my program, so really your opinion matters more than mine.

(06:49):
But the sign says it's my show, so that's why
I'm on my show. Given my opinion, I think firing
him is insane. I think Penn State firing him right
now off of thirty four and eight the past three years,
one play away from a National Championship appearance last year
is insane, and thinking you can do better, to the

(07:10):
tune of paying fifty million in buyout money to prove
it is insane to me. I don't think people have
recalibrated their college football worldview to account for the modern.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Age of college football.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
It's what I'm saying, You're still living in a world
and you're not the only ones where nine wins is
the floor. The best programs, the top ten or so
programs in the country. You're still living in a world
where you think nine wins that's worst case. It's not
worst case. That ain't worst case anywhere anymore. And that
even includes Ohio State or Georgia or Alabama, not necessarily

(07:44):
this year. I'm saying, when the worst happens, and maybe
it'll be twenty twenty nine, or maybe it'll be twenty
twenty six, or maybe for Penn State it was this year.
Nine wins is no longer the floor. The rosters are thinner,
the motivation is different for a million day, different reasons.
The dynamics have changed to college football, and you have
got to bake in the possibility of a dead season.

(08:07):
The best of the best have to bake in that possibility,
and I don't think they have. I don't think fan
bases have, I don't think donors have in some cases,
I don't think administrative types have. And they have a
dead season on their hands at Penn State. Now, my
belief is what would have happened had they kept him
in places, They would have lost several more games this year,
because a dead team's a dead team. They don't become

(08:30):
any less dead the weeks go by, and it would
have been a really, really ugly record, and then they
would have taken drastic steps after the season to try
and change the outcome next year. Next year was already
going to be kind of a rebuild for them.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
I'm not sitting here trying to tell you it went
the way it was supposed to go this year. It didn't.
They made calculated moves. He made calculated moves and decisions
they missed on them, and you're paying the price. What
I'm saying is, you can admit all that and also
admit this guy's been really good in his twelve year run.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Here.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Mind you, that twelve year run is coming not too
far on the heels of some of the most scandal
plagued eras in college football history, and this guy didn't
have a whiff of it. I've been around a lot
of head coaches. I will tell you there are a
few that I have ever observed from a distance and

(09:23):
up close that I was convinced had the overarching best
interest of college athletics and doing it the right way
at the forefront of their decision making, more than James Franklin.
And that's not to paint him as a boy scout.
What I'm saying is I thought he had a lot
more equity built up than this. That's what I'm saying.
So just I know where fan sentiment was. I know that,

(09:47):
just like with Auburn and Malson, I know how fan
sentiment had turned there. I remember it with Dan Mullen.
I know how fan sentiment had turned. But see, you
know what no one wanted. No one wanted during the
Brian Hart year to be reminded that they asked for this.
No one up to an including this moment in Gainesville, Florida,
wants to be reminded of their posts on message boards

(10:10):
or their calls into talk radio shows. Hey you wanted this. No,
I didn't ask to hire Billy. I didn't ask to
hire Brian Harson.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
No no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
You asked for the previous guy who was doing a
better job to be fired. And at that point a
million variables are in play that goes for Penn State.
You don't know who you can hire. You know, you
got a lot of money up there, and you think
your job's among the best in the country, And for
the record, I do as well. But I'm not in
the job market right now. I'm happily at Pate State,

(10:38):
and I've told my agent do not take calls. But
are you really going to do definitively better than that?
You were the eighth throng on a ten rung ladder.
I'd love to be rung ten as well. I'd love
to have Kirby or Ryan Day or Nick Saban or whoever.
I'd love to have Dan Lanning. I'd love to have
those guys as well. How many of them are there

(10:59):
out there? You better have one. That's the only thing
that makes this kind of decision worth it. And I
understand the principle also that what must be done eventually
must be done immediately. I actually believe in that. I
don't think this had to be done eventually. Therefore, I
think it's insane that it was done immediately. But I'm

(11:21):
not the decision maker up there, So if the athletic
director or board of trustees or hoopstever in the Penn
State circle is ultimately the one that pulls the lever.
Decided we're going to pull the lever eventually. Yes, even
if I disagree with it, you do need to pull
it immediately. It's very tough for me, and now I'm
gonna speak personally, it's very tough for me to remove

(11:44):
the human element on this one of the one of
the There are two reasons why I don't do hot
seat talk a whole lot on the show. The first
is because it's most always speculative and clickbait ish, and
despite the fact that they call me clickbait pait, sometimes
I actually don't trafficking that a whole lot. Secondly, I
know a lot of these guys, and the reason I

(12:05):
never call myself a journalist is because I'm not a journalist.
I'm just a person who gives my opinions. Another reason
I don't call myself a journalist is because I have
bias baked in all the time. I've got guys that
I disproportionately root for. The accusation we get a lot
in our business is oh, you root for teams, you
root for this team, you hate that team. Well, that's
never the case with me. I got coaches I root for.

(12:27):
James Franklin was one of them. I love James Franklin.
So it highly pisses me off that this happened today,
and it really kind of went down the way it
went down, all the while acknowledging it's your program, it's
not my program. But here's the third part. I guess
there are three reasons why I don't do the hot
seat talking. I don't take to it very well. There's

(12:49):
this belief in society that if you make millions of dollars,
you're different. If you make millions of dollars, then the
human element is ok to be removed, and fundamentally, I've
never felt that way. I don't feel that way if
you make ten million dollars a year, ten billion dollars
a year, or ten dollars a year, although the third

(13:10):
would be a violation and we do need to talk
to a legal type about that.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
But I've never been this.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Guy that thinks, hey, if you're bringing home fifty two
and change a year, you're just like the rest of us.
But if you're making ten million dollars a year, I
don't really care how things affect your family. You know,
I don't really care personally how you feel about this
or that because you've got a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I don't care. I don't care.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I've been in both positions in life, so I kind
of have experienced it a little bit. And I understand
whether you're broker a billionaire, human emotions, human emotion, and
I do understand the fact that this guy's going to
land somewhere in the range of fifty million dollars hardens
you a little bit. If you're just a normal person,
It hardens you a little bit to feeling sorry for

(13:56):
someone because you look in the mirror every morning and
you know what real problems are. I can relate to that.
I know good and well what you're talking about. What
I'm also saying is if I think if I could
take you guys just around the country with me, take
you to Penn State, sit you down for a day,
spend a day with James Franklin, observe the family dynamic

(14:16):
behind the scenes, watch how all in that guy is
on doing it the right way. See, it's one thing
if you find out there's all this stuff going on
behind the scenes and he took advantage of our program
or he did this wrong. He ran a foul of that.
That's a little bit different James Franklin. They don't paint
him like that because he's not like that. So the
guy just fought as hard as he could. He tried

(14:39):
as hard as he could. It ends up not being
good enough, and so he gets fired. That's what happens
in the adult world. A lot of us have experienced
that before. He's experiencing it. I mean, he's going to
be out of football professionally for the first time. At
at least it's the mid nineties, Jesse. We were looking
at his Wikipedia page. I can't tell if he's ever
been fired before. So all that, you know, you can
either feel sorry for it to not feel sorry for it.

(15:00):
I've always had a problem removing the human element. Like
I watch his daughter walk off the field, and some
people will say, oh, he does that theatrically, he does
that for show. Well, let me tell you something. I've
been in that building on a Tuesday afternoon when she's
there as well. There are no cameras around. So no, no,
it's not all like that. It's just kind of the
dynamic around Penn State. Around James Franklin I've always had

(15:21):
problem removing myself from that. So I always feel for
these guys because I know they're football lifers, and so
at a certain point, it doesn't matter how much money
I give them. You're working like a sixteen hour day.
It doesn't really matter your family's spending the money. You're
not really spending the money. Ironically, this is when you
spend the money when you get fired. Who are they
going to hire? Where's Penn State gonna go? I can

(15:44):
tell already by looking at some of the lists out
there and hearing some of the chatter, some folks are
gonna overthink the room. Penn State is open now. The
Penn State head coaching job is open right now. Penn
State is not the only major job that's gonna come open.
And I can already tell by putting my ear to
the ground, people are going to overthink the room on this.
So I'm going to do you a favor. Peate State

(16:04):
Committee over here is just running coaching searches for you guys,
free of charge. Matt Campbell is the best candidate available
out there. He's the best candidate out of all the
lists that I've.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Seen out there.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Are you're looking for flash, or you're looking for a
football coach. If you're looking for flash, lookoutswhere. If you're
looking for a stud football coach, he's just in plain sight.
He's right there at Iowa State. Iowa State was in
a conference title game last year. Iowa State is horrible historically,
and Matt Campbell's won consistently there. What Matt Campbell's done

(16:38):
at Iowa State is right on par with what some
other coaches have done in literal national championship runs at
more major programs.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
And I suggested it to someone today. Let me tell
you why.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
I know there's so much ignorance in this process. I
suggested it today to a person at a place, not
Penn State, but at a place that will be soon
in the market for a new head coach. Guys, I'm
telling you it's about to be crazy. Just get ready
for it. Some of them you can tell, are going
to come open. There are a couple of major ones
that are going to come open. They are not on

(17:10):
your radar right now, so just get ready. Anyway, I
was talking to someone and it will be involved in
one of those coaching searches. They asked, who do you think,
I said, Campbell like, are you an idiot?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Campbell?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
He said, own, Man, they lost Colorado last night. At
that point, I just throw my hands up. You are
not quality. You are the reason why so many schools
are tied up in buyouts being paid. You have no
idea how to properly qualify candidates, how to properly vet candidates,
how to properly filter candidates. You're looking at Matt Campbell

(17:43):
right now, and if the first question in your mind is, oh,
is he really the right guard for the job? I mean,
they lost to Colorado last night. I happened to watch
a lot of Iowa State, so yeah, they sure didn't
lose to Colorado. Down a starting tailback, lost their nose
guard in the game, down two starting corners for the year,
just sent two wide receivers to the draft again from
Iowa State. I believe they were down to their thirst

(18:04):
string kicker. Yeah, man, Iowa States sure did come up
short last night. Coaching season, coaching carousel season, man insanity.
I will say this again, and I will move on,
because we got a lot of show.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
To get to.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
You have never been more underwhelmed than you would be
if I could take you behind the curtain and you
could watch how coaching searches actually operate. And if you
want evidence of that, look no further than Chapel Hill,
North Carolina, where Bill Belichick is inexplicably the current head
coach at North Carolina. How did that happen? Because all
the wrong people get involved in coaching searches. And just

(18:42):
as sure as I say that, I'll go look at
the live chat later, I'll look at comments. I'm using
Campbell as an example because I think you'll win. Anywhere
he goes, there will be people who look at Matt
Campbell and just oh, Matt Campbell. They'll dismiss it like
you had no clue what actually wins in college football.
So whatever, I'll keep him an Eyewa state. I'm just saying.

(19:03):
So many people are gonna ask who I would hire.
I'd hire Matt Campbell in a nano second, if you
can get him, if you can get him quick trip
fueling us no matter where we go. I mean, look,
James Franklin, I picture him like Andy Dufrain. Now, he
didn't want to break out of Penn State, so it
wasn't Shawshank in that way. But he's free now, and

(19:25):
so maybe you know his wind. His hair certainly not
blowing in the wind like Andy Dufrain. And it's not
the Pacific in his rear view mirror. Maybe like the
Gulf of Mexico or something like that. But I picture
him just cruising. Maybe he pulls into a Quick Trip tonight.
Maybe who knows?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
You can?

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Though we did, I know goodwell we did. Over the
weekend we were up in Missouri and a lot of
you were all over the place had a grand opening
or a reopening in Westchester, Ohio. Several Chalaive Supremacy will
be on the way five.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
To be exact. For those of you who tagged us.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Make sure, by the way, when you stop at Quick Trip,
like dozens and dozens, if you tag me every day,
make sure you tag them Quick Trip. Joe's phone should
be inundated with people tagging me and Quick Trip in
your visits. But where we going this week? It's what
everyone wants to know. Eh, it's a little pretentious. Some
people probably want to know where we're going this week.

(20:20):
Well let me tell you where the fall don't lie
to her is going this week right down the street
to Vanderbilt. Because I promised to those people at Vanderbilt
if you win, we will be there. And they have
started winning, and we went to a game last year
and they're still winning, and we're going to go to
a game this year. LSU's in town this week. LSU's

(20:42):
in town. LSU off a win against South Carolina last
night that we'll talk about later. Vandy's off a bye.
I happen to believe Vandy is a very good team
that has another run in them.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
But we'll see.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
They're a slight favorite at FanDuel. Yes, you heard me right,
Vanderbilt is favored slightly against. You will be there Nashville, Tennessee.
We're going all the way to Nashville, Tennessee. Good people
in Nashville, Jesse. You got some people in Nashville, don't you.

(21:13):
All right, let's roll on. Got a lot of people
watching live, guys, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
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Speaker 1 (21:18):
You don't have to pay a dime. Just make sure
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We have actual games to talk about. Not everyone's been
fired around here yet. Texas put it on Oklahoma yesterday
twenty three to six. This game was presented by Academy
and Steve Sarkisian. They're not associated with each other. Legally,
I have to say that I would give this game

(21:39):
to Chalai. It's a five Chalai classic if you're a
Texas fan. But if you're a fan of aesthetically pleasing games, no,
this one wasn't necessarily for you. And no, I also
want to confirm we did not get the game script
ahead of time. Although you wouldn't be able to tell
by how we predicted this game. I will go on
record of saying this, Steve Sarkish himself does not know

(22:01):
Texas as well as I know Texas this year. I
predicted these folks to go lose at Florida a couple
of weeks ago and got labeled a Texas hater. I
then turned right around and say, now, now, way, do
you see what happens Now, now they lost to Florida,
they will go win Red River shootout.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I never hesitated, did I? Jesse.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I walked into the building Sunday and I said, they're
gonna beat ou. Never change my mind, and we told
you the exact way they do it. So this is
the way college football works.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Guys. Why did we have Texas over Oe?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
You and the JP poll that was the first that
was the first slight alarm bell that should have gone off.
How did Texas open as a favorite in this game?
A lot of people thought it was because John Matteer
wasn't going to start. Buddy, I like John Mattier starting
or not starting still to lose to Texas. Not because
I doubt John Matteer. It's because I looked at the

(22:53):
two teams. Hey, this was my Heisman Trophy winner, so
I certainly doubt John. I didn't doubt John mattere But
the world had already seen Texas struggle on the offensive line.
They had seen Texas struggle to run the ball. And
you know what they did. They completely ignored Oklahoma struggling
the exact same way because Texas had faced better competition. Well,

(23:14):
I looked at OU's tailbacks and Jay Not's been a
crushing disappointment. I really thought he'd do big things this
year and he just hasn't so far. But outside of
John Mattiir running the ball, I looked and I said, man,
they're tailbacks against power four teams are under three yards
per carry. That's not going to change against Texas?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (23:32):
A very desperate, wounded animal mode styled Texas, and it didn't.
Their tailbacks had fifteen carries for forty two yards in
this game. This was about knowns versus truths. People knew
Texas's struggles, but the truth was, oh, you struggling just
as much. It's just they hadn't been exposed yet. They
were still undefeated. Well they're not undefeated anymore. And you

(23:54):
know what else came in play here that I was
hopeful about, but I still had to see it, the
pride and performance factor. I used that phrase a lot
last week towards Texas, purposefully number one, because I hope
folks in the building heard it. Number two, it's called
how I felt it's inexplicable for Texas to be out
of contention before Halloween. That roster's too good, that building

(24:18):
is too full of what I think are very high
level football people, and there's no reason they should be
toting a third l coming out of Dallas. Firstly, arch
Manning ended up being the better quarterback in this game.
Here's what I didn't say. Arch Manning shined in this game.
I didn't say that what I think is happening with
Arch is week over week. It's just a slow build.

(24:39):
He is not an elite quarterback. He did not have
an elite game yesterday. What he had was an efficient game.
There's a goose egg in THET column there. His counterpart
cannot say that he was a nearly a seventy eight
percent completion guy yesterday. It's really weird because you complete
twenty one balls for one hundred and sixty six yards.
You didn't have to push it down the field a
whole lot. Note you probably weren't going to be able

(25:01):
to if you needed to, but you didn't need to
because Texas has got an all world defense they can
lean on. It's a very complimentary game if you play
it the right way. Mateir was pressured on twenty five
or forty eight drop backs yesterday. The pride and performance
is a little something like this. Arts Manning and the
team overall kind of get stuffed in a locker at

(25:25):
Florida and you can either fold or you can really
emerge from that with a new mentality. And I think
the latter happened. And what happened here is the first
thing was Archs just played good enough to win. Number
two is that defense clamp down? Oh you had one
point six yards per rush? They threw three and T's
are I INT's They turned it over on downs twice.

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Texas had five sacks. They just got after them all afternoon.
That shouldn't be a shock if you've watched Texas. But
people haven't really talked about Texas. The casual public has
just talked about Texas like it's tennis. It's one person.
They just say Arch. It's like Oklahoma versus Arch.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
No.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I think Sark actually said this in the postgame.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
It's not Arch. Arch is one player on that team.
This is Texas.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
It's not like he's playing at Wyoming where elsewhere on
that roster. There are no athletes like that. Texas has
other athletes like that. The answers for Texas have been
in the building. Their answers are in their building. The
players are in the building. It's just you gotta squeeze
the sponge a little harder than you thought you were
gonna have to squeeze it to get the juice out.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
But there's enough in there.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
They're good enough coaches on that staff, they're good enough
players on that team. You just gotta suck it up.
Do you gotta find answers. That's what you're paid to do.
Players and coaches, the biggest inflection week of the week,
though this upcoming week will be Oklahoma. Because it sounds
like I'm dumping on Oklahoma, I'm not. I just took
a fair amount of criticism last week for pointing out

(26:56):
what I thought were just obvious truths, and it painted
as whatever. So now that the truth is out there
a little bit now that the book is out there
a little bit more publicly on Oklahoma, Okay, Now, same
questions for Oklahoma. What are you gonna do? You notice
if you're looking at the schedule here, there is no
bye this week. They go into Columbia South Carolina this

(27:16):
week during October no less. And I think it's the
inflection point moment of this week for any team because
they're right now sitting there at five and one. They
play at South Carolina, then they got Ole miss at Tennessee,
at Bama, Missouri, LSU. They closed the season with five

(27:37):
more ranked teams, and the one that's not ranked is
this week on the road. And if you don't think
South Carolina is every bit in wounded animal and back
against the wal Mote As Texas was you're crazy and
you got to go into their building. Now you got
an early kickoff. You got lucky there. But it's October,
so anything can happen there. The run game is not
showing up, and I don't think it's gonna magically appear.

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So you kind of got what you got there. The
offensive line, their ceiling is above average. It's not gonna
be a great offensive line. You got what you got there.
This is Oklahoma's pride and for in performance spot. So
yesterday was not a surprise to me. Texas is now
one of ten teams with zero or one losses in
SEC play. The SEC is a bloodbath because pretty soon

(28:24):
the stat's going to be one or two losses. Mathematically
that has to happen. I'm still standing still on Texas,
so a lot of people were all the way over
there now they saw Texas when they're going to be
all the way over here, and I've just been standing
still for two weeks, and I'm like, guys, it doesn't
have to be this way. It does not have to

(28:45):
be this violentist swing week to week. So now I
think we may be on the precipice of another week
of me having to pull people back to earth on
Texas and they're going to go to Kentucky Saturday.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
And they'll probably win.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
But I gotta tell you, this offense does not have
the explosivity enough to just assume Texas is going to
go roll. They do not have that. One game against
Oklahoma does not all of a sudden absolve my memory
of knowing what it knows. So you cannot assume back
to back road stretches here at Kentucky at Mississippi State.

(29:18):
Everyone will chalk it up as a win.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
And do not do that. Please.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I had I had the stones to have faith in
you this week, and you made me look good. Now
make yourself look good. But remember you see, Texas is
a little different. Texas is a team that hadn't hit
its stride yet, and who knows, maybe their stride is
beneath that of a national championship caliber. But I just
want to remind people before you start talking definitively about Texas,

(29:44):
and I'm talking to myself as well, what did you
think about Ohio State at the end of the Michigan
game last year? The Michigan game was the last game
of the regular season. What did you think? What you
didn't think was national champion That's not what you thought.
Now you fast forward a month and a half and
you're talking about Ohio State like they're one of the
best teams ever. Why, well, they peaked in December, that's why.

(30:07):
So when is Texas gonna peak? What is their peak?
The reason I'm careful writing off Texas is because I
know the kind of dudes walking around that building.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Now.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
It may never peak to the degree of national champion
this year, but I'm not writing them off. I'm not
writing that staff off, I'm not writing arch Manning off,
I'm not writing them off. Let's move on, Nonder. We
got a lot of folks watching live. Fifteen thousand people
in here watching live. Appreciate it. Make sure you subscribe.

(30:37):
Indiana thirty, Oregon twenty. This was the surprising result of
the day for me. Well, Troy came back against Texas State,
but on the glarger scale, this was the surprise of
the day for me. This is a result I had
to see the belief. I give this game three chili
on the one to five Chili rating scale. Indiana went
in and not only did they win in Austin Stadium,

(30:58):
which I'm told you're not supposed to be able to do.
I think I told myself that not only did they
do that. They went in there and kind of gave
themselves breathing room. Imagine telling yourself Friday, Indiana's gonna go
up there and they're gonna win, and honestly they're gonna
throw a pick six and it's still really not gonna matter.
They're still gonna kind of just sort of win by

(31:18):
double digits, like what. So I was flying back to
Nashville as this game was wrapping up, and I had
intermittent Wi Fi, so I was kind of seeing bits
and parts of it and pieces of it, but I
didn't really get to watch the full game, or I
didn't even get the story on the full game until
I landed, and when I landed, it was wrapping up.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
So here's what happens.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
When you think you know about two teams, and I
thought I knew about these two teams, and then you
see a result that surprises you. Your instinct is to say, oh, man,
thirty to twenty, All right, well what happened? You know,
what's the context. In other words, it's disrespectful to Indiana,
I admit that. But you're thinking, for Oregon to have

(31:59):
lost period to Indiana, there has to be something where
they minus four turnovers, Did Dante morg get hurt? Did
special teams provide like twenty one points for Indiana? And
then you find out what happened. They just stuffed Oregon
in a locker in their own building. That's what happened.

(32:20):
There was a pick six in this game. There was
a forty four yard sort of busted coverage touchdown that
Oregon had in this game. So that's fourteen of Oregon's points.
Outside of those two, Oregon had six points on eleven drives.
Outside of those two moments, one of them defensive and
one of them credit where credits do is just a

(32:41):
busted play? Outside of those, Oregon had nothing. The red
zone paper popper stat of this game Indiana five for
five for twenty seven points down there, Oregon two of
three for six points. At halftime, Indiana led this game
thirteen to ten. So even if we got to that point,
or we're on Fridays, We're on Friday's look Ahead, and

(33:03):
I tell you what if I let you know how
the first half of this game's going to go, oh really, okay,
deal all right, Indiana is going to be up thirteen
to ten. How do you think that second half is
going to play out. I'm still betting Oregon. Even then,
I would have doubted Sig. I would have doubted Indiana.
Even if you told me how the first half went,
I would have said, Organ's about to pour it on Aunson.

(33:25):
Oregon coming out of the half without the lead, superior roster.
This is where they lean on them. This is where
Austin sort of sinks its teeth in. Oregon had sixty
four total yards in the second half. Just brutal, just
absolutely brutal. Indiana had two scoring drives in the second half,

(33:46):
longer than Oregon's total yardage.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Lockered. They just got stuffed in there. Just hmmm, that's
Oregon in the locker, could not believe it. What is Indiana?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
By the way, They're a team that's going to be
favored the rest of the way. We all know that
point spread crowd loves that anti point spread crowds like, well,
games aren't played on paper. Okay, well, this game was
played on a field. I watched Indiana. They look incredibly impressive.
I did have one theory validated, and that one theory
is I have felt all year like this team is

(34:20):
a I won't say way better, they are a better
version of Indiana than last year was. Last year's Indiana
never scared me once they got to the playoff. This
Indiana team would scare me if they got in the playoff.
But even then, man, I just thought Oregon would take
care of business here. The model did, and the model
had Indiana as its favorite play of the week, and
I overrode the model. We see how that turned out.

(34:41):
They're strengthening. They are in weather terms, one of those
sort of category two category three hurricanes that gets into
the Gulf of Mexico. It doesn't get sheered apart in
the Caribbean, you know, doesn't get torn apart by the
topography of the islands, and it just gets into the Gulf.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Golf is like bath water.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
It's like ninety degrees on the surface, and there's no
other storms that have come through prior to that and
creating upwelling, which is when previous storms pull up the
cooler water. Therefore it serves to weaken the subsequent storms
that come through.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
None of that's happened.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
We went way more in depth there than I needed
to on hurricanes. But Indiana is they're the Cat three
hurricane that's loosing the Gulf and there's nothing standing in
its way. What keeps it from becoming a Cat five?
What keeps Indiana from continuing to roll. They haven't accomplished anything,
they haven't won anything. There's no thread of complacency here.

(35:38):
Signetty hates the world, there's no thread of him losing focus.
Fernando Mendoza may end up playing himself into being the
top overall picking the draft, like he's got every reason
to be dialed in. That roster is full of a
lot of guys who, in many cases were told they
couldn't play for the very teams they're fighting for the
right to play against the playoff. They're locked in, they're

(35:59):
zoned in, and they're not a mirage.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
They're real.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Indiana also has this fairal group. It's about ten or
fifteen people deep that roam the internet looking for anyone
who picked against them, which is basically the entire world
outside of I think McAfee. And then they started trying
to flex last night like everyone saw this coming, like
they saw this coming.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Calm down, No you didn't. I mean, I don't doubt.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
You predicted your team to win the game. But in
a general sense, the audacity of someone in this case me,
to need to see Indiana go into literal Eugene Oregon
and win a game before believing they were a legit
title contender is not the craziest idea in the world,
especially when you had a shot at Ohio State last
year and you got buried because it's Ohio State, and

(36:46):
then Notre Dame did the same thing to you in
the playoff. It wasn't the craziest thing to require proof
of concept from Indiana. So calm down. Now we have it.
Now we have it, So maybe I don't need the
doubt Kurt Signetti. It's not that I doubted him. I
just believed in Oregon. Maybe I believed in Orgon a
little too much. Oregon has to reevaluate here now. They
did taste their blood early enough in the season, unlike

(37:07):
last year, where maybe you taste the blood early and
you taste the champagne later. Maybe that's the way it
works for them this year because they went wire to
wire in the regular season. Last year they won the
Big Ten. Then they get in the playoff, they're the
one seed. Bam done, Ohio State done, and by the
time you taste your blood there, it's too late. So
maybe Maybe this course corrects them a little bit. Maybe

(37:30):
this has the kind of effect on them that FSU
loss had on Alabama. Stuff happens every year. Maybe that
does happen. But they got out coached here. I'm not
telling you that, like I took the projector in the
kitchen and put it up on the fridge and broke
it down frame for frame. Dan Landing and his staff, No,
they got kind.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Of worked here.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
I think that's happened a couple of times. It's happened
two or three times since he's been up there. And
they take it ultra personal.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
They should.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
You should when someone's better than you at your job
and you're building, you should take it personal. I think
they will. It's not to say if they don't face
them again in Indianapolis, they don't turn the table on them.
You just got to earn the right to do it. Now,
you just got to earn the right to do it.
But Kurt Signetti, the thing about him is he is
the worst enemy of many coaches out there. Not because

(38:21):
of his demeanor, not because of his sound bites. It's
not that at all. It's that there are a lot
of coaches out there at programs much more well resourced
than Indiana historically that are trying to sell their donor
base and their fan base and their administration on having
patients and this is a multi year process. And here's

(38:42):
what's tough. That used to fly and reality is that
is the truth. But Kurt Signetti's in Indiana doing what
he's doing, and all those fans and boosters and administrators
now look at their coach and say, wait a minute.
If it's so hard, if it takes as long as
you're trying to tell us it takes, why is that
guy doing what he's doing. Can you imagine Mike Norvel's

(39:04):
reality right now in Tallahassee, Florida recently reworked contract and
he's delivering the results he's delivering, and Sig is in
Bloomington in football delivering the results he's delivering. Can you
imagine trying to explain to your administration, I just need
some more time, guys, It's not that easy.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Boy.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
There's a guy in Indiana who makes it look easy,
and that is not a good thing for other coaches
out there. Let's march on jam packed Show my Goodness.
Alabama twenty seven, Missouri twenty four. You know we were
at this game yesterday. We were on the sideline there.
I'd give this one three and a half tili. This
is a good game. I'd be interested to see the

(39:47):
TV number it got. It was fueled by quick Trip,
That's how we got there. We appreciate quick Trip for that.
This is a really interesting dynamic because I did not
see this game the way apparently a lot of Bama
fans saw it. I didn't see this game maybe the
way most of the world saw it. Saw it up close, though,
So that's good. Bama's the fifth SEC team ever to

(40:08):
defeat three ranked conference opponents in a three week span.
That according to statistician Cole Kublick. So we appreciate him.
He is now parts of stats and info for us.
We appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
You know what this was.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
This is a classic Kaitlin Deboor Washington game. You remember
that twenty twenty three season when he was up at
Washington and they kept on having one possession games, and
some people me kept on thinking it would come to
an end, and some people again me kept picking Washington
to lose, and they just kept winning, and eventually you're
thinking his luck's got to run out. But then he
keeps winning. They were eight and oh in one possession games,

(40:44):
and eventually you just got to look at yourself and say,
maybe it's more than luck. That was that kind of
game for Alabama yesterday. And I got to tell you,
I don't get this sentiment from some Alabama fans who
I have heard complaining about this thing. They're like, we're
we're happy we won, but you have got to properly

(41:05):
calibrate your viewpoint and your worldview on this stuff and
your team. I looked at Alabama yesterday. I thought this
was a nightmare spot for them. We said it last week.
I looked at Alabama and I'm like, hold on, You're
off back to back really emotionally charged games at Georgia
home versus Vanderbilt. You not got to go on the
road someone else's building. They're off a bye. It's a

(41:27):
good team too. It's not like a poverty team that
you're overlooking. Ryan Williams best receiver talent wise, is far
below one hundred percent. Jim Miller gets concussed during the game,
he's out, and you got all that working against you,
and you still end up winning the game and kind
of controlled it most of the way. Took the guy

(41:50):
on the other side of the ball that you needed
to take out out of the game, and you win it,
and because it's closer than you thought it should be,
you're unhappy with it. Guys, the line on the game
was three. For that matter, the totals fifty one. Do
the math twenty seven to twenty four.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Final there.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
I'm sure it was just a guest from FanDuel, though.
I'll give you a bad luck stat on this game. Look,
all I'm trying to say is be a little more
appreciative of wins. Not all of you, some of you.
My goodness. I looked at my inbox, I thought Bama
had lost, and then I was like, did we not
just fly back from that game? Did I not just
watch them win? So I'll give you a bad luck stat.
Bad luck stats are for the new viewers and listeners

(42:30):
to the show. The thing that if I told you
on Friday this stat, you would have guessed wrong. If
I told you Bama was going to run it for
under three yards per carry but Missouri was going to
be at five point eight yards per carrey, you probably
think they won the game. I would have I would
have thought that Missouri won the game and they didn't.
Bama found a way. This was an all hands on

(42:51):
deck type of situation for them. I'm telling you they were.
There was some adversity in this one that Alabama experienced.
There were nine different guys that caught a pass for Alabama.
Now one of those was deflected to the center. So
let's say eight pass catchers got involved, and none of
those were Ryan Williams. He didn't catch a ball yesterday.
He played, but he was far less than one hundred

(43:13):
percent and didn't catch a ball outside of the opening
drive and that short field that got set up because
Missouri forced to turn over early in the second half.
Bama's defense did what they.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Needed to do.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
It's so funny, though, again, you got to understand who
we're talking about here.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
We're talking about Bama.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
These people have watched some of the best defenses and
best defensive talent in the history of this game roll
through their program, so they've got an idea of what
elite defense looks like. And this is not an elite defense.
It's just a defense that keeps the other team from
scoring too many points. Which you may be driving around
listening to the show, you may be watching it and

(43:50):
you may be thinking to yourself, is the whole point
of the game, right, that's the whole point of defense
keep the other team from scoring. Yeah, but it's more
complicated than that. No, No, but it's really not. It's
really not more complicated than that. Missouri was one of
ten on third down. There's your paper popper. There's your
paper popper. Matt Hardy was under fifty yards I think

(44:11):
total on the day.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
That was the guy you couldn't let take over the game,
and they didn't let him take over the game.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I will tell you this.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I was watching on the field and that opening touchdown
drive of Missouri was a knife through soft butter, and
you think to yourself, man, they're in for it. Kind
of reminded me the way Vandy opened against them. Bama
defensively notoriously poor against the opening script. Then they get
in the flow of things, and it's fine if anyone
out there wants to tell me what Demani Jackson was

(44:41):
doing on that opening touchdown drive and that pass feel free.
We got some very very bright defensive minds that watched
this show, and we got a lot of coaches that
watched the show. Some of them maybe even on that staff.
You want to let me know what number one in
white was doing, I would be happy to be educated.
I've watched a fair amount football. I have no clue

(45:01):
what he was doing. No, I mean, I'm just saying,
if I'm a defensive coordinator, I'm gonna get wrong. Like
if I'm Kane Warmack, I'm getting wrong because I'm giving
up an opening drive touchdown. And meanwhile, I'm thinking to myself,
if I'm kde Walmack, I could not X or oh,
this dude into a better position.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
He's got to make a play. One ended up.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
On the sideline somewhere. He was over there where the
photogs are. The photographers are anyway, they are.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Kids after all.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Ryan Williams not one hundred percent. Jam Miller out. Yeah,
this could have gone bad for Alabama and it didn't.
So what is jam Miller's status. I don't think that
we've gotten a public update on that. But it's gonna
be tough. I mean, it's another game week. They got
Tennessee coming up. Its third Saturday in October. Week Down there,
it's cigar week for them. Ryan Williams, does he get

(45:52):
back to one hundred percent this year? Don't know that
hit Meadows took was brutal, that was right in front
of us. Don't know, and he hasn't been like a
complete focal point of their offense. But you never want
to be down guys when you're facing Tennessee or which
is when you're in conference play period. I thought Missouri
played like they were down three scores in this game.
Did this strike you as weird when you know their

(46:13):
personnel and you know their identity? They had what was
it Jesse in the second half of this game, where
it was largely a one possession game, the game's well
within reach.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
They ran the ball nine times.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Bama ran it twenty five times by comparison in the
second half. Drinkwitz and his staff know way more about
play calling than I do. I'm not questioning to play calling,
I'm questioning.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Strategy there though.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
I really wonder if they had it to do over again,
how differently they would manage that Their tailbacks the running
back position had seventeen total runs all game. That's just
not the way I draw it up. Knowing what you
know about your guys and their guys, that's not the
way I would have drawn it up. But I will
tell you this, I would draw up the trip exactly
how it went. Hitting aside last week and there was

(47:01):
a lot of it. I mean, we pretty much participated
and sparked a bullying campaign against Eli Drinkuitzs, and we
bullied them online because they shut the weight room down
for Tebau on Friday. And all I'm saying is, how
come Tim Tebow gets to do something in life I
can't do that was my question. And to his credit,
I looked at my phone like four forty five the

(47:22):
next morning and he had texted me drink not Tebow,
and he had made it right. Truthfully, I did not
know Pres was going to run this footage, so do
not call me names. I'm not running this footage myself.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
This is Pres. Good job. Pres. We had a great
workout there at Missouri, empty weight.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Room, best kind of weight room, and they showed us
a great time. I got to say, just like Florida State,
the week before, we take we take we take fire
all week from the one percent of fan base that's bad,
and we did last week from Missouri. Then you go
to Missouri and everyone's awesome. Just like the week before
at Florida State, everyone's awesome. So hats off to Missouri folks.

(47:59):
I cannot thank you enough. Josh Maxon, an old friend
of the program up there running things for him and
Eli Drinkins and his staff. We appreciate it. We appreciate it.
We appreciate it. They're at Auburn this week. Like BAM's
at home against Tennessee Man, Missouri is at Auburn this week.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
It just it is such a crazy league this year.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
There are so many teams capable of winning the league
but also losing four games if a few bounces go
a certain way, and Missouri is just another one.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Of those teams.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
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Speaker 1 (49:56):
We got a lot of show left to get to,
a lot of show. A and M handled Florida last night.
Thirty four to seventeen was the final. Now, this is
a two and a half chali game, not the most
amazing fireworks show known to man. But that's okay because
that's exactly how they wanted it in College Station. I
think this game did a lot in a not so

(50:16):
good way for Billy Napier. I will get to that
in a second, but we do talk winners first around here.
Sorry about that. Bradley kind of threw them off with
the b roll there. America is gonna overlook this game,
I really think because America thinks Florida sucks because the
record's terrible. And I just I couldn't have been more
impressed with Texas A and M. If no one else
says it, noted Aggie Homer, I am bought and paid

(50:37):
for by TexAgs money.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Everyone knows that. Bradley.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
I'm gonna give you time. I'm gonna give you time
if you're listening, if you're watching live. There's a little
power hit there. So in the interest of Bradley being
able to cut the video later, I'm just gonna say
what I was saying again.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
If you're watching live, just pretend like this is take two.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
I think America is going to totally overlook this result
because A and M's playing a Florida team that no
one thinks is any good and the record's bad and
blah blah blah. I'm just telling you, if no one
else gives credit, I am. It's documented, I am bought
and paid for by tech SAgs money. So I am
a shill. So I'll be the one who says I
couldn't have been more impressed. You know why, because they

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out rushed him one eighty three to seventy four. And
that's something Florida had to do in this game and
they couldn't do it. Also, ANM owned third down. I
would call this the paper popper of the game. Nine
or seventeen on third down. Other dude one and eleven,
So you limited Florida on third down. They couldn't run
the ball. Marcel Reid still missed some open throws. So

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as good as they looked offensively, like, there's still meat
on the bone offensively for A and M. Now maybe
that is just Marcel Reid. Maybe he's always going to
have those one or two or three moments per game.
But you know what caught my eye more than anything.
You know what's more encouraging to me than anything. They
weren't stupid three penalties all night boy.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I'll take that.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Given what A and M has been so far this year,
I will take that. Florida had five sacks against Texas
the week before Goose Egg against A and M. If
you're looking at how this team is taking shape, they've
already won multiple kinds of games. We've talked about that before.
They won a shootout. They've won slugfests. This one was
somewhere in between. They are a multifaceted team. They are

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a toolbox team, as we call them. They are a
dangerous team, and they haven't peaked. They're continuing to improve.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
More on them.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
In a second, this felt like a last gasp sort
of game for Florida. I don't know how it felt
to you, but they had one hundred and fifty seven
yards in the first quarter of this game. They had
one hundred and sixty two the rest of the way,
so they just ran out of gas. And my great
unknown coming out of the Texas game was is that
the new Florida. So did they hit another gear or

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was that just a one off?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
They didn't play.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Terribly last night, but it looks like it was a
one off. And I don't know that Billy's going to
be around much longer. Again, I love Billy and Apiers,
so I don't like talking about that, but I did
wonder what the effort would be. They fumbled the ball
four times last night. They recovered two of them. It
could have been worse second half drives. This is not
the Sarah McLaughlin special. We're saving that for later in

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the show. But their second half drives went minus three,
minus three, fourteen eleven, minus one, forty seven, minus three,
thirty one minus two thirty two. Yeah, it's not good enough.
And now Florida's two and four and there are more
losses coming. A and M has it all in front

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of them like they're undefeed. They're undefeated. Does Marcel read
keep progressing? Okay, that's the first question. Number two. Is
their defense consistent enough? Now there could be a week
where defense gives up thirty one, but that's okay because
offense hangs thirty eight. They are that kind of complimentary team.
They are that this is not LSU to this point,

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like LSU is known, we need we need standout defensive
performances because we're probably not going to score enough. Well,
that has not been A and M.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Teams evolve, some teams progress, some teams regress. That's the
big test for Mike Elco year two. Every time you
got a returning coach, a returning staff year one to
year two, that's the great hope that the mortar between
the bricks hardens to where, hey, a lot of these
are the same guys we had last year, but boy,

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we looked better and we infused this team or this
wall of bricks with some good bricks. Yes, yes, you
did all that. That's what a major program does. Now,
as we all know, the internet has taught us Texas
A and M cannot win a national title. We all
know that why they never have And what's the other evidence.

(54:50):
We don't have any other evidence. That's all you need.
That's the only evidence you need. Like, Okay, how much
gas was in the tank for Florida was what I
I wondered, Not enough. I think Napier is likely out.
That's not my opinion. That's talking to people around Florida today,
I think billiy Napier is gonna be out it maybe
after this upcoming game and they've got to buy.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
But I do believe that.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
He's gonna be out and I do believe the Florida
job is gonna come open.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
I think it makes sense though, like you're if you
don't have to sell me on the logic behind it.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I get it. He's had time. The result's not good
enough for you. I get it.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
This one would be infinitely less egregious than James Franklin
to me. So if that's the way it goes, that's
the way it goes. I love billiy Napier, so I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna trash him. Do I play
favorites on the show? Absolutely, I do, and that's one
of my guys there. But it is a bottom line business,
and the bottom line there is it has not been
good enough.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
So I understand it.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
I do get it, and I think you'll see action
on that front in the not too distant future.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Let's continue to move lips chopped. Do we have a
dehumidifiring here or something that's ridiculous?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Gotta be careful with the way I parsh the lips
because I get made fun of on the home front
by how my mouth looks when I put lipbam on ridiculous.
I just want support, That's all I want. Oh, buddy,
Oh this next game? Okay. Georgia beat Auburn last night,
Sorry for Bradley. Georgia beat Auburn last night, twenty to ten.

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And this is a one chali game. And I apologize.
And there's so many different angles to take on this game.
Somewhere out there, someone made this game the first college
football game they've ever watched last night, And to you,
I apologize. We are better than this. I'm better than this.
Aren't we better than this? College football is better than this.
It's not always this way. I promise you. It's not

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always this way. Officiating, before you even mention it to me,
is its own story in this game. Sometimes officiating is
so horrendously bad in a game that we give its
own segment to officiating. So officiating, after I get done
talking about the game, we're going to just talk about
officiating on its own. That's how bad it is, that's

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how far beyond the pale officiating was in this game.
But I promise you actually it sucks a lot. Rarely
is it this bad. So if you're new to college football,
please give us another chance. Please don't make this be
what you go back to your soccer friends or your
basketball friends and tell them is college football. This is
not college football. This is a clown show. And then

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there was college football game mixed in. And it's not
Auburn's fault or Georgia's fault. They just happen to be
the two teams involved. Speaking of two boy, it was
a tale of two halves. I don't know if that's
a book that's been written, but it was a tale
of two halves. And I gotta tell you, man, I
thought Georgia was cooked. Hugh Freeze put on a clinic
coming out of the bye week. Here, I want to

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take you to a moment in time. This seems like
so long ago. The moment in time is there is
one minute, thirty nine seconds remaining in the first half.
At that moment in this game, Auburn had a two
twenty eight to twenty yardage advantage. They had a forty
four to twelve plays run advantage. Auburn at a time

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of possession edge of like fourteen minutes and they are
one inch away from making the game seventeen to nothing
and probably closing the door on Georgia. Probably can't prove
that definitively. Instead, the thing ends up being ten to three.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
We all know.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Well, if you watch the game, you know the circus
that ensued down there on the goal line. Again, I'm
going to talk about that separately in a few minutes.
Georgia flipped everything. As bad as you think calls went
against you, you cannot allow this game to turn like
Auburn did. This is not the playground, man, this is
high level college football. I'm talking about coaches, I'm talking

(58:50):
about players from the neck up. I mean, the reason
so much is invested in the mental side of this
game is because you should have a mental edge about yourself.
He may not always have a mental edge against the competition,
but at the very least you need to match them mentally.
Georgia was mentally superior to Auburn in this game. And
that's a product of culture. And that's a big indictment

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on Hugh Freeze. Frankly, I mean, a guy that I
thought put on a masterclass in the first half here.
But to allow your entire group, your entire locker room,
your entire sideline. To be that disproportionately put on tilt
by things not going your way in a game was
pretty inexcusable. So I'll get back to that in a second.

(59:32):
Gunner Stockton got lit up. He got Aaron Murray last night.
He had things done to him physically that frankly don't
happen in the sport of football anymore, cause it's against
the rules to just hit quarterbacks like that. But Auburn
got after him last night, and you know what happened.
Gunner Stockton was in like three or four car wrecks

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last night and just kept getting better. And he's not
going to go to win a Heisman Trophy and he's
not gonna be some first round draft pick. But man,
I remember games like that when you're talking about him
ten years down the road. I don't know where he
is at that point. For all I know. He's got
his own show, he's doing his own thing. But man,
he got lit up last night. Auburn had eight quarterback hits,

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they had two sacks, plus he ran the ball nine times,
so he got hit more than and he just kept
getting better. Twenty four to thirty seven he ended up
being sixty five percent completion last night, one touchdown, no picks,
ran it for twenty six yards.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Just he is such an embodiment of what that team is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
If you've watched Georgia football for a long time, you
watched Kirby smart for a long time. I'm going to
ask you, do you notice something a little bit different
about Kirby and his demeanor this year? I do, and
I think I know what it is. I think he
knows this team has a lower ceiling than his usual
teams have. I don't know what they'll go on to do.
They may lose three or four games, they may win
the national title. I don't think this is a national

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title caliber team.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
I just don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
I think it's a pretty good Georgia team. I think
it's reflected in the attitude Kirby has. And the reason
I don't think he looks bent out of shape and
outside his mind and apoplectic every week is because I
think he understands his team. And here's what he understands.
He understands what he has is what a lot of
guys will call a coaches team. A coach's team is

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not always the best team you've ever had talent wise,
it's not always the best team you've ever had in
terms of ceiling. A coach's team is a team that
you're happy to coach, You're happy to be around him.
It is a pleasure to take the practice field with
him every day because they fight and whatever they're all is,
they give it. It could be seventy percent of your

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best teams, but they give their all, so they're given
one hundred percent. And what happens sometimes is you've had
groups with higher ceilings, but they never hit their ceiling.
I've got a lot of confidence in thinking, whatever the
version of this year's Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Team's ceiling is, they'll hit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
And it's a pleasure to be around guys like that,
and I think that's reflected in Kirby Smart's attitude. Now,
I will say the trade off there is maybe they
don't go on to win a national title. I don't
even know if they'll make the playoff. I think they will,
I don't know if they will. I still think they're
one of the best teams in the country. Don't get
me wrong now, I'm not telling you this some woe
be gone eight and four hopeful for the Pop Tarts

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Bowl kind of team. No, they're still very dangerous. But
if they don't go on to win a national title,
I think Kirby knows in the back of his mind
he'll remember this year as an enjoyable year. But what
you got to make sure you do is in a
game like Auburn, that's a rivalry game on the road,
that's a place that's giving you nightmares. If you're Kirby
smart throughout your coaching career.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
You make sure you soak it in. And he did.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
He hopped up on that table last night and celebrated.
And I guarantee if they go beat Florida down in Jacksonville,
that's a game the rest of the country will overlook.
I guarantee he's very demonstrative celebrating that one as well.
And I guarantee you, as the fan base and the
message boards are all up in arms about this and that,
I guarantee you he'll strike a lot more somber tone,
a lot more measured tone at the podium because he knows,

(01:03:03):
first off, his legacy is set, and secondly, he can
coach as long as he wants to. But he's got
one year with this group and he just strikes me
as a guy who's around an enjoyable group, a kiss
to coach. So that's what I'm picking up. That's the
vibe I've gotten from them. As for Auburn, I assume
this was Auburn's fastball. Jackson Arnold was their leading rusher

(01:03:25):
in this game. Their longest pass play was eighteen yards.
Now they tried a couple of more times to push
it down the field, but they still really can't do it.
Arnold had more time, relatively speaking, but he was still
pressured on fourteen of thirty eight dropbacks. If there was
going to be a moment, in other words, for the
Auburn offense to click, to find itself, to find something,

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it would have been this game. George is one of
the worst pressure teams they'll see the whole year. It's
ironic cause that's Georgia, but that's what they are this year.
And Auburn had the bye week to get ready and
to self scout themselves and do a thorough internal review,
and this is what they came out of the gate with.
This was their fastball. They hung ten points at home,
and now Missouri's coming in this week, and I will

(01:04:09):
say I have written on my piece of paper here.
Missouri game is very big. The word vary is in
all caps. I'm not just telling you the Missouri game
is big in terms of league standings. If you're picking
up what I'm putting down, there so lot going on,
a lot going on at Auburn. The officiating in this

(01:04:30):
game was a travesty. Okay, The officiating in the Georgia
Auburn game was as bad as college football officiating has
been in a long time. And college football officiating has
been very inconsistent and largely a joke for quite a
while now. Not just bad calls being made. Bad calls
are acceptable, I mean, to a certain degree. Bad calls

(01:04:51):
are going to happen as long as humans are involved.
Mistakes are going to happen as long as humans are involved.
The lack of transparency, the lack of accountability, the lack
of a basic understanding at certain points of what's going on,
and the lack of answers that you get afterwards is
so inexcusable. Again, this is not a government operation. Kubli's
calling me while I'm on air. That's also inexcusable. This

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is not classified intel. These are not clandestine government operations.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
This is not a black op.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
This is a college football game that you're paying money
to attend, that you're paying money in rights fees to watch,
that you're being paid to coach. But it's a game
at the end of the day, it's a game, and
it is a billion dollar brand, the SEC, and it
is the greatest sport on the face of the earth.
And it is the most ridiculous nickel and dime officiating

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mechanism that billion dollar brand could possibly have. You could
not screw up how this stuff works anymore than major
college football currently screws it up. So last night, in
this game, from the time the two minute warning hit
to the time it was real halftime was thirty six minutes.
Thirty six minutes of real time went by from the

(01:06:05):
two minute warning to halftime. There were no injuries, there
were no weather delays, the clocks didn't stop, and they
had to go to commercial break to reset it. It
was just egregiousness left and right. And here's the great
irony in all this, the call that was the most debated.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
I think they got right. That's the irony of it all.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
I know a lot of people are up in arms
about the call down near the goal line where some
people thought Auburn had scored, but they ruled it a fumble,
and then they reviewed it forever and they didn't overturn it. Guys,
I thought they made the right call. What I don't
want you to do is one of the big pet
peeves of mine in life, when there's a close call
in a football game. First off, stop saying it wasn't

(01:06:47):
even close. Obviously, at the very least, it was close.
I'm telling you, I think they got the call right.
But it was close. Of course it was close. There's
nothing indisputable here. And the second pet peeve, please stop
using still frames of football games to present what you
think is definitive proof of a spot or a possession

(01:07:09):
or anything like that. That's not proof of anything. I've
seen the still image you're passing around.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
I know the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Imaginary red line you've drawn on it. You're not proving anything.
You've got to look at it frame by frame as
it's moving, and the ball was probably coming out before
it crossed the goal line. But at the very least,
at the very least, it's not indisputable, So stop talking
like that. Here is what is also not in dispute.
The officials lost control of the game. The officials totally

(01:07:38):
lost control of the game. There were several other moments
that were beyond the pale egregious in this game that
I could take the goal line spot out entirely. Let's
just pretend it never happened. Here's how terrible this game
was officiated.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Take the rest of.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
The game, and it was still the worst I've seen
in a long time. They lost control of the game.
I don't know how else to present it. If you
watch that, you know what I mean. If you didn't
watch it, if you still have it on your to
do list, don't go watch the condensed game. Carve out
about five hours, because that's how long it's going to take.
You put yourself through this game. You will not believe

(01:08:13):
it until you see it. How horribly it was officiated.
They lost control of the game. I had, I kid
you not. I cannot name names. I cannot do it.
Members of both coaching staffs texted me during the game
from the sideline because there were so many stoppages in play,
and they were so incredulous, like both sides so incredulous.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
I had members of both staffs text me during the game.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
I've never had that happen before ever, and it happened
both sides of the field. I wasn't sending them anything,
they sent me something during the game. And the worst
moment I thought of the night was not the goal
line stuff. The worst moment was Kirby clearly trying to
call a time out and then play being stopped, then

(01:09:00):
them not charging a time out but also not calling
de lay of game. And what happened there is what
would happen if you elevated an official too quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
If I took an official who's pretty good at his
job but.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Is only officiated junior high or high school ball, and
I put him on the field Jerdenhair Stadium, eighty seven
thousand and change, millions watching at home, and it's a
key third down and you cannot hear yourself think that's
how an inexperienced official would allow the circumstances to impact him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
You would be shell shocked.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
That's why they don't hire newbies and put him on
the field in the SEC on a Saturday night. No
believe it or not, these guys have done this several
times before, but since nothing ever changes in SEC officiating
and trust me, the SEC is far from the only
conference that has its officiating issues. There is someone in

(01:09:55):
the Illinois Ohio State game yesterday with no business on
this planetial ciating a high level college football game that
was on the field yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
You want to know why.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
That PI didn't get called for Illinois, will go check
out who the field judge is there. Again, there's inexplicable
stuff happening all over the country. You have no transparency,
you get no answers. Just deal with it. Why because
no one's there to force the issue. There's no central command,
there's no commissioner, there's no oversight in college football. So
it's just allowed to be the train wreck that it

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is every single week. But when that happened in that game,
that was what had me stunned. That's the moment that's
beyond the pale. That's the moment where there are no
guardrails and you're off the road and you're tumbling down
the hill and you're thinking to yourself, how is this
an SEC football game? How is this conference that prides
itself on being the best and on the cutting edge

(01:10:48):
of everything allowing this to be how it's represented? Like,
can you imagine someone who's new to college football watching
that garbage and thinking, oh, this is an see football game. Huh,
this is insane. Yeah, it sure is, It sure is.
In no world does the game just stop. In no

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world is Georgia or Auburn in a situation where technically
you should be running two minute offense, but because the
play stops every time, defense just gets to reset after
every plane, because officials don't have control of the game.
Unbelievable that it could be that bad. I saw John Cohen,
who is the athletic director at Auburn, take in a
lot of fire because when they were walking off the

(01:11:31):
field before halftime, he was ripping an official to shreds.
He was ripping the white hat to shreds. And people said,
that's unbecoming an athletic director. You cannot do that. You
can't allow that to happen publicly. You know, ninety nine
times out of one hundred, I'd agree with you. But
let me ask you something. Why can't John Cohen do that?

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He's not gonna get answers otherwise. Why can't Auburn fans
applaud their athletic director for ripping an official publicly on
the feet? Why is that not his play.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
You'd have a much better point.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
There would be more merit to your argument if I
knew that white Hat was gonna go to a press
conference podium afterwards and have to answer, you know, like
Hugh Freeze has to answer when he screws up, or
Kirby has to answer for that matter, the college football
players have to answer. They got to go sit in
front of the media when they screw up. The white
Hat and his crew they're down the road.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Police escort to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
The airport, and you'll never hear from them. And the
best you'll get, the absolute best you'll get, if you're lucky,
is the league office will send you a memo forty
eight hours later saying, yeah, we screwed up. We're not
gonna give you a win. Oh, by the way, we're
not even gonna find ourselves. We don't even owe you
any money like you'll owe us if you question us publicly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
No, it's just the way it'll be.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
So. I saw John Cohen running off the field. I
had a lot of my buddies text me and say,
that's a terrible look. I texted every one of them back.
I'd do the same thing. The league created this because
the league allows this to be how it is officiated,
how its game is officiated is a joke. The lack
of transparency is a joke. If you just give more transparency,

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if just that changed, people would have less a problem
with it. They still have a problem, but it would
be less a problem. But I want you to watch,
you watch and see what happens to that crew.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
Because this is twice now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
If the league has any sense about itself, and it
did after the Oklahoma game, the league is going to
have to tell Auburn and Georgia in this case, we
fundamentally torpedoed your football game. What happens to the crew,
what happens is there is there is there. Don't be
telling me that you pull them off the road for

(01:13:44):
a couple of weeks. Don't be telling me that. Tell
everyone that. So when I do these segments, sometimes people
from the league office will say, you're wrong about what
you said.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
We did take action. First off, your action is very
very cosmetic. That's not action.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Action is take people who aren't qualified to do their
job out of the job. That's action Number one. Number
two is stop telling folks you screwed up and do
something about the screw up. And part three is stop
just texting me. Why don't you answer to the public.
The entire reason this sport gets to exist at the

(01:14:21):
level it does is because of fan interest. And then
you just piss all over them and tell them it's
raining when you put that kind of officiating product on
the field and expect them to just swallow it. Why
what else can they do? Oh, they'll show up no
matter what. It's so pathetic, and like, the people in
charge of college football right now are not remotely responsible

(01:14:42):
for how successful it is. They just happen to be
next in line, you know, they just happen to slither
their way up the administrative ladder, and so now they're
in the decision making position. They didn't create this game.
They're not the reason this game's great. They're not the
reason Georgia Auburn is the game it is, or the
reason why millions of people are watching it. And yet
for some reason, people that ill qualified to handle the

(01:15:05):
moment get put in the moment. And it's very aggravating.
So yes, to answer your question, I was every bit
as beside myself watching that last night as you were.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
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at the Little Frights collection. If you're listening on podcast,
I thank you. But the one thing you miss is
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Little Frights Collection.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Look at that little baby. That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Paystatemanterial dot com. We got some t's in there too.
It's not just onesies. I had a certain friend of
mine drive up to Nashville went to the Missouri game
with us over the weekend. He said, why'd you wait
to put onesies in the Peate State store until my
kids were out of onesies? And I'm like, buddy, did
you not see the new T shirt? The back of
that T shirt says naptime not on third down. That
is a great kids T shirt. That's a great adult

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T shirt. Honestly, especially for peep on me mo me
Maw would never but yeah, fun times at the Peyton
State Store. Okay, let's continue. We are an hour fifteen
in and we still have a jam pack show. We
still have a jam pack show. I gotta itch on
my nose. I apologize.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Is Mike Norvel done at Florida State and they.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Got beat again yesterday by Pitt And this is Florida
State's eight straight conference loss.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
And it's not a good conference. Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
They are five and fourteen over their last nineteen games.
I saw Corey Clark over at war Chant just put
a stat that kind of puts it in perspective in
one of his articles. Do you know that Mike Norvel
has six losing streaks of at least three games in
his time in Tallahassee six. That's half a dozen according

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to stats and info. So Jimmy Sexton, as he is
known to do, fleeced Florida State this last coaching cycle
when he let it be known that Mike Norvell could
be headed to Alabama and got a new buyout structure
put in place. And so now, I mean, I don't
think they can afford to buy him out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
It's fifty nine million.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Dollars if they want to fire him. Fsu Fell for it.
I don't know how else to put it. They fell
for it down there. I mean it was the right place,
right time, and they fell for it. So here's the
fifty thousand foot view as I see.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
At a Florida State.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Portal reliance does not work long term. This is what
I always come back to with Mike Norvel, who again
is a dude.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
I love.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
They welcomed us down there in the spring.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I talk to him all day.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
I'm going to get back to that in a second, actually,
because there's some things that he told me during the
spring that I think apply right now. Portal reliance will
never pay off long term. You cannot build through the portal.
You can supplement through the portal. But I think twenty
twenty three poison the well down there because twenty twenty
three they went and got guys out of the portal

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and there were difference makers, and they probably should have
gone to the playoff if the playoff committee hadn't changed
the criteria on the fly. They won the acc great team.
Great team, and you probably convinced yourself that we got
a new way of doing things.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
You don't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
You've got to recruit, you've got to develop, you got
to have a foundation of your guys. And then if
there are some of your guys, and by your guys,
I mean people who fit your way of doing things
in the portal, go get them supplementally, go get them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Don't build through the portal, because then what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
What happens is you got to keep taking through the portal,
so you end up not having something of your own.
You're just taking a bunch of someone else's. That's where
they are right now. In twenty twenty three, ended up
lying to a lot of us and ended up lying
to them, and they had enough hubris about themselves. Last
year they thought they could take unproven guys in the
portal from somewhere else, like take the number two over

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here and the number two over there, and they'll be
come ones here and will win with them.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
No, you won't.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Turns out there was a reason those guys weren't starting.
So then this year they tried to go proven production
again in the portal. It's a total crapshoot. Two new
coordinators as well. So they're in a no man's land
right now at Florida State because it's another lost season
or they're on the presipoe of it being another lost season.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
What are they three and three? Jesse?

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
I think they're a three loss team right now. And
they got several more losable games. I mean, when you're
losing like this, every game's a losable game. They've been
close games, so we can say that at least on
the scoreboard. The Miami game was close too. But there's
another lost season. And here's what bites me so bad.
If I'm a Florida State fan. Clemson has been mortal

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in this little stretch here. Clemson has been vulnerable. It's
one thing if Clemson's still running roughshot the way they
did a decade ago.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
It's not the entire conference.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Crown has never been more up for grabs, and we
can't get out of our own way, and it's a shame.
So they go to Stanford. Next, they go to Clemson. Still,
they go to NC State, they go to Florida, Like,
what is there to look forward to? That's what I'm
coming back to, and that's what I come back to

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With Mike Norvel. We went down there in the spring
and I sat down with him and he was very candid.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
I give him a ton of credit, and we loved
our visit there, and he was very honest about where
they went wrong last couple of years, really where they
went wrong, the course correction they were trying to make.
But he was very honest in saying, this may be
more than a one year thing. You cannot be in

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the ditch they were in last year and have some
blueprint that just get you right back to the top
of the mountain in one year. That doesn't happen. I
don't think that exists now. I don't think they were
foolish enough to believe it existed down there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
When the Bama game happened, it was kind of ooh,
all bets are off. Maybe they totally course corrected. And
I had a little bit of that about myself after
Week one, like I didn't know what I just watched.
It's week one. I got no clue. After week one,
no one does. The jello has not geled yet. It's
still slotching around in the college football fridge. After week one,
well now it has started to congeal.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
I guess is the right word. Not a big jello guy.
And I don't like.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
I don't like what has settled in the fridge here.
But what I took from Mike in the spring, is he?
I mean, he must have laid out like half a
hundred different bullet points over the morning that I spent
down there. That was the day we flew from Tallahassee
to go Stormchase in Missouri, by the way, got a
tornado that day, and back on.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Track here, back on track. He laid out.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
So many things, And what I walked away from thinking
was he fully believes everything.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
He just told me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
There was no trying to sell you on anything. There
was no trying to convince himself of something like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
He was very resolute.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
You could tell there were a lot of sleepless nights
that had gone into that, and they had pulled every
lever they knew to pull, but it was going to
take more than one year. So then I think to myself, technically,
that's acceptable to me. I don't know if it's acceptable
to a Florida State fan, but as an outsider, okay,
I'm the same way with Lincoln Riley at USC. Okay,

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if you admit to me you got yourself in a
ditch because of poor hiring or poor recruiting or whatever,
as long as you present a coherent plan to get
out of the ditch from that point forward, like I'm
willing to hit reset, I'm willing to give you a
couple of years. The thing I kept coming back to
and the thing I will come back to now is

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even if go back to Spring, even if I resolved
in my mind to give Mike Norvel and his staff
multiple years from that point moving forward to get it right,
even if I resolved in my mind to do that,
I would have to answer first the question what are
we building towards? I don't know what they're building. I
don't know what the identity of the team's going to be.

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I don't know what the identity of the programs going
to be. I know what they want it to be.
I'm asking what it's gonna be. What is the bedrock
of this program? Are they gonna recruit well enough? Are
they gonna develop well enough? These are things you're still
having to ask about. I don't think that's an unfair
take at all.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Man. I love Mike Norvel, but you gotta be real.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
I don't think that's an unfair take, and honestly, I
would love to get some truth serum in him. You
can't ask these questions during the season but you know,
January February.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
I'd love to know what he thinks about that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
And then the follow up question is is he gonna
be there in January of February. I am of the
opinion that Penn State was crazy to pay the buy
out for Franklin. Florida State would have to pay more
than that to fire Mike Norvella. I just don't know
that they're going to be there, But it's not a
one year fix. As it turns out, they're watching us
in Charlestown, Rhode Island, big college football town up there.

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I didn't know about Arland, Texas, Panama City, Florida. We
appreciate you guys so much for being tuned in and
let me just quickly put that in the chat so
people know I'm looking. We still got a ton of
show to get to. We still got the Sarah maclaughlan' special.
We haven't done usc Man.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Good for you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Lincoln Riley thirty one to thirteen over Michigan two. Chalai game. Okay,
it's not a game again that I think the public
will talk about weeks and weeks from now. It was
a helmet Game of the Year candidate, though, how beautiful
was that?

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
What a blessing to have four K?

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Some of you're up to eight K and you got
color TV there and just biggest screen in the house.
Put it on, and you got Michigan in the coliseum
against Southern cal on a Saturday afternoon, bright sunshine.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
If you were watching a college football game yesterday, that's
the one I kind of wanted you watching to get
a taste of what it's supposed to look like and
feel like. Lincoln Riley needed this game so bad. You
know it, I know it, he needed it so bad. Question,
do you remember what are those stats that were floating
around last year about USC and one possession games and

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how many one possession games?

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
What was it, Jesse?

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Like four or five one possession games? They led in
the fourth quarter they ended up losing the game. And
then I remember we had Lincoln on the show in
the spring and he said, we're close, We're close, We're close.
And I said, you know a lot of people think
you're full of it. I said this to him. I said,
what would you say to them? And he said, well,
I would ask them if they watched our games last year.

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We were close in every game, so we're not where
we want to be, but we're not far away. Okay,
So now you hit pause at that moment, you just
bookmark that because you know the season's going to come.
And I remember we had a subsequent show and I said,
you know what would absolve that stat from even being
necessary to be quoted? Win games by multiple possessions. So

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how do you keep the one possession stat at Bay
Paper popper of a stat the best stat of all
the scoreboard.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Just win the game by eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
That's how it's a great thing they figured out out there.
There is a difference, though, This is where I'm gonna
draw some criticism. Probably there is a difference between an
impressive win and a statement win. This was not the
statement win for Southern Cal, but it's a very impressive win.
I'll tell you what the statement would be in just
a second. But it's impressive cause Mayava gave us exactly
what we needed at quarterback twenty five thirty two, two

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sixty five, two touchdowns, one pick. But I'll tell you
what was more impressive mayavas seventy eight percent completion.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Yes, that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
What's more impressive is USC did what Michigan was supposed
to do. And that's a sentence that I want to
just take some time to resay, to restate.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
USC played the game Michigan is supposed to play.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Because if there's a team that's going to carry it
thirty six times for two hundred and twenty four and
two touchdowns, if they're going to have runs of forty
nine yards, forty seven yards and twenty nine yards, that
is supposed to be Michigan. And it was USC. And
I'm golf class happen them all night for that. And
they also, for good measure, held Michigan to three and

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a half yards per carry and Michigan's longest run was
thirteen yards, and that right there is something USC football
is not done in a long time. So that is
very impressive. It's not the statement. It is not the statement,
not quite yet. I'll tell you what the statement would be.
I think it's coming together on defense though, and it's
better late than ever, and it still got a little

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ways to go. Make no mistake, all right, Michigan cannot
throw the ball very well. You will be tested more thoroughly,
maybe as soon as this week. But the defense is
coming together. They held Michigan to two of eleven on
third and fourth down, they had three sacks. They had
two picks. Again, these are numbers that we haven't seen
USC defense put up in a long time. Michigan's sort

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of in a weird spot, are they not. Michigan is
four and two. They could go nine and three, they
could go eight and four. I'm gonna say this, that's
not going to be good enough for some people at
Michigan if it's a nine and three or eight and four.
I'm not telling you how I feel about it, because

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you know that coaching changes are always a last resort
for me this day and age, more than ever. I
don't think that's where Michigan's had that. I think there
are some people around the Michigan program that would look
at nine and three and certainly would look at eight
and four and say, we're making a change. And I'm
telling you that if that happens, not to be too

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surprised by it, so they can control that by winning.
If they don't run the table and they go nine
and three or worse, there's going to be some noise.
And it's not noise that I necessarily think the entire
country's focused on right now, because they're looking elsewhere. Just
keep Michigan on the back burner there. Now a lot

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can happen there, trust me, a lot can happen there.
Statement win, that's what they're calling this for USC. I
want to be respectful. This is a very impressive win
for USC, extremely impressive for all the reasons I just detailed.
It is not a statement. When the statement is going
to have to be made this Saturday, you don't make

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a statement again, all due respect to the performance, by
beating a team you're favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Against at home.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
You make a statement by going on the road multiple
time zones away to South Bend, Indiana this Saturday and
facing a very resurgent Notre Dame team, a team that
thinks it's going to outclass you physically, and beating them.
That's how you make the statement. That's when you know
USC is a prime playoff contender because they're on the

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fringe of being that right now. You make the statement
this weekend. You just were impressive yesterday. The statement comes
in six days. The opportunity to make the statement comes
in six days. Because I'm telling you, if they go
to USC and they beat us, or if they go
to Notre Dame and they beat Notre Dame. That removes
Notre Dame from the playoff. So, first off, you beat

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a rival. Secondly, you knocked them out of the pl layoff,
which frees up a playoff spot for you or anyone
else and is fourth ly, fourthly, you solidified yourself as
a playoff contender. Can you imagine what the USC Oregon
game looks like? If the dust settles this Saturday night.
USC has won on the road in South Bend. Can

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you imagine the ghosts and the demons that are vanquished
over there in Los Angeles on that plane ride home
if they do that, Chad Chad Bowden, by the way,
left Notre Dame as the GM to be the GM
at USC. Can you imagine what this week is like
for him?

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Big week?

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
This is the statement week, Make no mistake about it.
This is the statement week, one way or another. I've
got more added takeaways.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
What do we add? An hour thirty hour thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
Let's see one of my favorite quotes. I don't okay.
So Cameron is in the live chat. This is no
knock on Cameron. Cameron is making a statement about Notre Dame.
He said, Notre Dame is so mid from my forty
and overcrowd. That just means average blooh, Notre Dame. There's
nothing special about it. Notre Dame would be favored against

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all but like five teams in the country. Right now,
just give you an idea. We'll talk about the ap
pole later added takeaways. LSU beat South Carolina twenty to ten.
Now I saw some of the college football public calling
this an ugly win. I saw this one a little
bit differently. I've been critical of LSU. I thought this

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was an extremely important week for that offensive staff, and
I got to tell you, man, this was an ugly game.
I was encouraged by LSU last night. They won twenty
to ten. They had five point five yards per carry.
They had three explosive carries, so they came out of
this game last night. There were two turnovers inside the five.

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It kept it from being a blowout. There was a
lot of promise in this game. I don't know how
most people watch this because there were so many games
on The work that offensive staff put in over the
bye week was very obvious to me, and I got
to credit them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
I got a hat tip them because I've.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Been critical of them, because they should have been criticized
so far this year. Those are big boy jobs down
at LSU, and they hadn't been good enough. The answers
to LSU's problems are in their building. I feel the
same way about them as I feel at Texas. You
are good enough. You just gotta angle it just the
right way, and you got to squeeze every ounce of
potential out of this team. You're good enough get the

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job done. They got the job done last night, and
they left meat on the bone. They were missing Aaron
Anderson too, So I credit them. Man, that was a
good game. That was a good performance on the ground
from them. Defense is always going to be there. You
don't need to score forty a game. Special teams is
outstanding for them. So play a complimentary enough style of football,

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be multifaceted enough, and that team can still be very dangerous.
That's not a team that's hit peak yet. Now I
say that we're gonna see him in person this Saturday
in Nashville. They're going to Vandy. They are a point
spread underdog against Vanderbilt. And they still got A and M.
And they got Bama and they got Oklahoma. They got
a lot of tough games left. But you know what,
LSU can be a pretty tough out as well if

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they play the style of ball. I still think they're
capable of playing. Ohio State is playing that style of ball.
Thirty four to sixteen, Ohio State over Illinois. Illinois never
had a prayer here. This point spread was amazing to
me that it was that low. And it's not like
Ohio State one pulling away, but they just they just suffocated.

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Illinois box score is gonna lie to you here. Don't
look at the total yardage. Ohio State was perfect in
the red zone defense, force three turnovers. They held Illinois
under two yards per carry.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
They're just so good.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Ryan Day's putting on a clinic right now. Man, This
is it could end up being his best coaching job
for reasons. We'll probably end up talking about down the stretch,
so I'm not going to talk your ear off about
Ohio State. Tennis See edged Arkansas thirty four to thirty one.
You know, the Model circled Indiana as its favorite bet
last week, and we did not end up betting Indiana,

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and for that I apologize. The Model's second favorite bet
was Arkansas plus the points, and I waited too late
in the week. And that line moved from twelve and
a half to ten and a half, and I state
my regret there as well. But I talked about it
a lot on the show Upset Alert Concern on Thursday.
I put it like an eight or an eight and
a half. In this game, I had a lot of

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people that I thought were friends of mine trash me
privately at least and say, how in the world do
you think Tennessee coming off a bye at home is
going to struggle against an Arkansas team with an interim
head coach. You saw how you saw how there's not
that much separation in the SEC this year. I'm just
telling you Tennessee's defense is a real liability, and Bobby

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Petrino and that staff and that quarterback are really capable
of exposing it, or at least taking enough advantage of
it to make it a game. And here's how crazy
the SEC is. If Tennessee makes a field goal against Georgia,
they're undefeated, they're in the top five. So we're sitting
here talking about them having this vulnerability. And they've listen
their last two conference games Mississippi State in Arkansas, that

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defense has given up points and then Mississippi State goes in,
gets shut down by A and M and Georgia. They
gave up forty four to Georgia earlier in the year.
Georgia got clapped down on pretty hard against Alabama. They
struggled against Auburn last night. So we have seen several
examples of teams flourish offensively against Tennessee and then struggle

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elsewhere to know this defense is going to be a problem.
It's just the same with Tennessee as everyone else in
the SEC. No one's perfect in that league. Everyone's got flaws.
Everyone's dam has at least eleven holes in it, and
every team has no more than ten fingers, So everyone
has more holes to plug than they have fingers to
plug them. Who does it best, that's who's going to

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win the league. And Tennessee's just another one of those teams.
They go to Bama this Saturday. They are over a
touchdown underdog. Third Saturday in October. Hypel has won that
game two of the last three years, so there you go.
Texas Tech sort of embarrassed me yesterday. Well they made
me embarrass myself. They beat Kansas forty two to seventeen,

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and I doubted them. Last week I took Kansas plus
the points. I doubted that they'd be up for this game.
I thought, going to Houston the week before and dominating,
having a trip to Arizona State on deck, and having
this little sleepy game against Kansas at home, I thought
it may bite them. And I even have received confirmation

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from inside the building out there that my words were
used as a weapon inside the building, which really puts
us in a no win position. Because if I predict
upset alert and then the team that we're predicting to
be on upset alert takes our words and uses them
to fuel the team, We're in a no win situation.
We're really in a no win situation. The Joey maguire

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has put us in a no win situation. He has
put his team in a multi win situation though, so
I guess that's really what counts, because they won the
second half twenty one to nothing. They oh this is
paper popper. Texas Tech ran for more yards than Kansas
had total yards, three seventy two. That's how many yards
they ran for. Throw the tortillas, by the way, keep

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throwing the tortillas. They are a ten and a half
point favorite. At least as of a couple of hours
ago at Arizona State this weekend. They are now a
huge favorite to win the Big Twelve. They are minus
one seven five to win the Big Twelve. The next
closest team is Utah Hoops, they throttled with their backup
quarterback on the road a couple of weeks ago at
plus seven hundred. The Big Twelve and the SEC have

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totally traded places. The SEC is now the league that
anyone could win, and the Big Twelve is now the
league where it's someone and everyone else, and the someone
is Texas Tech.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
We continue. It was bad. It was bad. It was bad.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Iowa beat Wisconsin thirty seven to nothing. Hold on just
a second, press, hold on just a second, Bradley, We're
on the precipice of something here.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
I can't believe it's this bad.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
I took under five and a half wins on the
season for Wisconsin, so suffice it to say, I thought
it would be bad. It's worse than I thought it
would be. You want to know how bad it is?
This week's Sarah McLaughlin special the Wisconsin Badgers. They were
shut out thirty seven to nothing by Iowa. That Iowa

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thirty seven to nothing. They had eighty two passing yards.
They had eight completions, two picks. They were six of
sixteen on third and fourth down. Here is ear muffs kids.
The Wisconsin drive chart. Punt interception, interception, three and out, fumble,
turnover on down, punt three and out, turnover on downs,

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punt punt.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
End of game. That was it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
People paid money to watch this performance. Iowa scored more
points in this game than Wisconsin has scored their last
three games combined. Again that Iowa offensively inept. Iowa scored
more on you than you've scored the past three games combined.
It's the first time Wisconsin's been shut out at home
since nineteen eighty Luke Fickle fifteen and seventeen. And the

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offense this year one hundred and twenty nine total points,
yards per game, one hundred and thirty, first in points
per game one hundred and thirty, fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
And explosive plays. They are headed towards their first back
to back.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
Losing seasons since nineteen ninety one and nineteen ninety two.
There is no relief in sight. I can't believe it's
this bad. And I'm the guy who took under five
and a half total wins on the season. You're Sarah
McLaughlin special. It pains me to say the Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
Badgers, man, it's bad. People are asking are they going
to make a coaching change. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
I don't really know anyone at Wisconsin. I know Wisconsin, though,
and it's not supposed to look like that. In the
interest of how good teams are, the AP pole has dropped.
The AP pole is upon us, generated by flex power.
I have it in my hand right now. We have
some movement. Some teams are moving. Some teams are moving

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a little close to where the Commissioner's pole already had them.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
But I digress. Let's take a look.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
Number twenty five is Nebraska and number twenty four is Cincinnati.
Now where have I heard that before? Cincinnati? Let me
remind you lost to Nebraska head to head on a
neutral field in week one, and yet the AP has
taken a line from the Commissioner's pole and they have
put Cincinnati ahead of Nebraska. Why. Well, because the deeper

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you get into the season, obviously, the more filled out
the resume becomes, and the body of work includes so
many data points that you got more to go on
than just head to head, although head to head is
still important. So I actually agree with Cincinnati being ahead
of Nebraska, albeit slightly.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
I'm okay with it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
Surprisingly Utah twenty three, Memphis twenty two. Okay, Texas is
at twenty one. I just want you to earmark that
two lost. Texas is at twenty one. Very impressive win yesterday.
We'll come back to that. USC is number twenty ahead
of their showdown on the road against Notre Dame. Notre
Dame's at thirteen. By the way, USF jumped five spots.

(01:41:40):
We already had him up a little higher than the
AP did, so the Commissioner's poll agrees with this. USF
was at one point I think, minus three turnovers the
other night and still just dump trucked North Texas on
the road. Alex Golish, by the way, as these jobs
start opening up, make sure you have his number. I

(01:42:00):
know everyone wants to look far and wide and you
want the flashy name, and Frankly Alis Schleiss is a
little flashy. I don't think he's all that flashy a person,
nor does he try to be. But I mean they
hung sixty three in Denton and Denton, how many of
you could say that you think Ohio State's ever gone
into North Texas and done that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
I think not.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
Vandy is number Let's see Virginia's eighteen. Vandy is seventeen.
That is still too low. Vanderbilt is still too low.
We will be there, Faul don't lye tour at a
Vandy game second year in a row. This Saturday, Missouri's
at sixteen. They only drop two spots, which I'm okay with.
If you have Bama ranked where they're ranked in Missouri
loss to him, they shouldn't drop that much.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
Brigham Young is fifteenth. They're undefeated, and everyone's trying to
figure out where do we put them. They don't have
a high quality win, but yet they've won all the
games they've played. Fifteenth is about right to me. That's
maybe where the Commissioner's poll even will have them. I
do need to bump Brigham Young up a little bit.
I doubted them last night. I thought that to Arizona
they did not. I can't predict that, obviously, so I

(01:43:04):
have to wait till the game happens to react to it.
Oklahoma dropped eight spots, and here's notre Dame at thirteenth,
So I want to talk to you for a second.
Notre Dame thirteen, Texas twenty one. They're both two lost teams.
Does it make sense to you that Notre Dame is
not much higher than Texas?

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
Because I was.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
Looking at it. Texas beat Oklahoma yesterday. That's a way
higher quality win than Notre Dame has. So Texas has
the way better win. They both have two losses.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
I think that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
Notre Dame having the p four wins is floating their
boat a little higher because they've got wins. But it's Purdue,
it's NC State, it's Arkansas. So I guess it just
kind of comes down to what you believe in more,
what you value more. But I'll tell you what I
think people are really doing, which you're not supposed to do,
and the commissioners pull certainly wouldn't do. I think people

(01:43:54):
are projecting with their Notre Dame ranking. I think people
believe Notre Dame has gotten its act together for the
rest rec I do as well, but that doesn't matter.
They'll play the games and they'll prove it. So people
think Notre Dame has gotten its sact together, and since
they had Notre Dame top ten preseason, and they believe
Notre Dame has gotten its act together. They think Notre
Dame has reverted to the form they thought they were

(01:44:16):
going to be in the preseason, which means they're ranking
them a lot more in line with what they think
they are moving forward, which I've got a problem with
because that is predictive. That's called power ratings, but that's
not what this claims to be. This claims to be rankings.
So Notre Dame at thirteen's a little strange to me.
Georgia Tech's at twelve, Tennessee is at eleven. LSU is

(01:44:36):
in the top ten, and I'm keeping my eye peeled
on LSU because out of all these teams, like I
think LSU may have a higher ceiling than Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
Higher ceiling.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
Now that assumes that maybe one day Garrett Nussmeyer is
going to be all the way fully healthy, get Aaron
Anderson back at wide receiver, get your ground game going enough.
There may be a little higher potential about that LSU
team because they play better defense. They have a more dynamic,
more athletic defense, So there is a potentially great aspect

(01:45:06):
to that LSU team. They're at ten right now, I'm
okay with that. Georgia's at nine, I'm okay with that.
Oregon dropped to eight. They drop five spots. You always
wonder if you're ranking, if you're a polster, if you're
filling out a ballot, or you got Oregon at eight.
Penn State clearly is not ranked. Oregon's best win is
over Penn State. How do you look at that game?
Because I look at games and the way I ranked

(01:45:28):
teams is I try and crystallize the value of a
game when it happens, and very rarely do I like
to reassignate value or remove value all that much. Here's
why Penn State's a disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
I can't know for sure how big an impact Oregon
had on Penn State, but I think it's a ton.
So my point there is Oregon goes and they beat
Penn State. Penn State season goes off the rails, Penn
State looks terrible, and it devalues the Oregon win over
Penn State more and more. The way I look at
that is, why should I remove credit from Oregon for

(01:46:05):
something they're responsible for? Because what I think happened is
Penn State loses to Oregon, and that's the reason they
go to UCLA and lose, and that's the reason they're
terribly in It's northwestern and there's no way to prove
that for sure. But I'm careful dropping Oregon. I'm all
dropping cause they lost a game against Indiana. But I'm
also not doing that thing where I'm retroactively removing value

(01:46:27):
from a win that I still think is pretty high caliber.
That's what I'm not doing. I don't know how many
voters are doing that. Texas Tech is at seven, Bama
is at six, Ole, miss A, and m Indiana, Miami
and Ohio. That is your top five in descending order.
Ohio state number one, as they should be. If you

(01:46:49):
want to go better body of work, probably Miami would
be ahead of them. You could probably make a case
for Indiana as well. I mean they do have a
better win, Yes, they do have a better win. I
saw a lot of people thinking Indiana maybe number one.
That was never going to happen. But if you wanted
to argue it, okay, Indiana's up. That's the highest I
think they've ever been ranked, by the way I thought.

(01:47:09):
I heard fourth was the highest they've ever been ranked. Look,
I got to give an ap credit. They have started
to get their act together. I think in the aggregate
they have started to pay way more attention to this
stuff because a lot of them had their trees shaken
earlier in the season and they don't want to be
caught not paying attention. And that's not a bad thing.
That is a very good thing, as is the fact
that you can go over to FanDuel right now.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
I don't think you can. You can bet on the
A people.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
I don't think we do that quite yet, but I
do want to tell you that pretty much anything else
that exists under the sporting sun you can bet on now,
as you know, or maybe you're new around here and
you don't know. When we started the show, we went
a long time without a betting partner. We had overtures,
but we we just declined. When we met with FanDuel

(01:47:55):
two years ago, we heard the pitch again. And I
use fans like I personally have bet for a long time,
but I was hesitant to let a betting partner come
on the show. Here's why I wanted to do what
are called RG reads pretty frequently responsible gaming reads, and
most partners said no, FanDuel. Their tune was totally different.

(01:48:16):
That is why they're a partner of ours. That's the
only reason I would ever partner with FanDuel. And not
only did they embrace it, they actually said, you know
what we're working on. We're working on tools that we
actually want you to promote. So the responsible gaming part
of this is important to me because I have watched
the downside of what gambling addiction can do to people,
and so I have taken it upon myself, since this

(01:48:38):
is my show, to make sure every now and then
we weave in reminders to back away if this is
getting a little out of control for you. To put
another way, if you have any doubt that you can
afford or not afford to bet on a game, you
can't afford to bet on that game. You cannot be
betting money that you can afford to lose on games.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
Shouldn't do it bit.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
As dangerous and addictive as anything else that you always
get warned about. So on this show occasionally I want
to remind you just step away. If you need to
step away. You can have a mat game on on
a Tuesday night without you having ten dollars on it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:13):
That's Okay, it will go on. You will go on.
It'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:49:16):
But at FanDuel they have several responsible gaming type tools
to help you out. One of them is the know
your Play tool, and I would encourage you if you
go to FanDuel, find that, find that section, find the
know your Play section. There there are tons of tools
there that work in conjunction with responsible gaming if you

(01:49:38):
will utilize them. That helps you basically make sure to
set your parameters and then remind you when you're close
to them or you're exceeding them. And it's a really
good fail safe. Again, you got to use them. If
you don't use them, they don't work. So I credit
FanDuel for doing that. They've been very proactive on that front.
And they give us carte blanc. I mean, that's that's

(01:49:58):
what the paper said set FanDuel. So there is no
copy they put in front of me. They trust me
to disseminate that stuff, and I trust them to be
true to their word. And sure enough, there it is.
You see it on the screen right now, and if
you go to FanDuel you'll see a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
Also.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
I know goodwell, there are people probably watching this show
that that may not apply to but maybe it applies
to a buddy of yours. Well make sure they hear
that that's what I would ask of.

Speaker 3 (01:50:23):
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Speaker 1 (01:51:07):
In the meantime, Roman Noodle Express is won money so
far this year's World Okay and We're looking to get
better this week. I've got two games that I'm gonna
put on the Roma Noodle Express as best bets of
this week, and one of them is Syracuse plus eleven
and a half. They are playing Pitt Big do down
spot for Pitt. I still think there's a little bit

(01:51:29):
of value to be had in Syracuse. Now. You know,
I love betting backup quarterbacks. Just because it bit me
with Arizona State last night doesn't mean I'm not going
right back to the well. We have made a small
fortune betting backup quarterbacks in this game, and we'll do
it again with Syracuse actually back up versus backup, and
we will go with Mississippi State plus nine and a
half at Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
Guys, there are.

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
Too many points being given in that game. That's all
I'm gonna tell you. One organization is extremely highly motivated
and the other one I think may have run out
of gas yesterday. And there's a lot of talk around
Florida football right now and Mississippi State just to sneak
down in there, and I think hang with Florida. So
I'll take plus nine and a half all day long. Listen,

(01:52:12):
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Many of you were along for the ride. I feel
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to remind you, guys, listen, it's just starting. There is
going to be so much coaching churn coming up. Not

(01:52:35):
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Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
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