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October 26, 2025 90 mins

College Football week 9 reactions are here. Texas A&M vs LSU and Alabama vs South Carolina were two of the spotlight games across the SEC with Kalen DeBoer’s team surviving in Columbia while Mike Elko saw his team dominate Brian Kelly and the Tigers in Death Valley. What do we make of Oregon getting past Wisconsin or Arkansas imploding against Auburn? Missouri vs Vanderbilt also came down to the wire. The AP Poll is out ahead of week 10 as Josh reacts to the placement of teams like Ole Miss, Ohio State, UGA, Texas, Notre Dame, and more. Hugh Freeze is still facing considerable heat at Auburn as speculation about the hot seat has ramped up. The same could be said for Mike Norvell at FSU and Brian Kelly at LSU. All that plus early best bets on the Ramen Noodle Express.

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
I don't know if you watched the show in a
chair with a seat belt, but if you have one,
I'd go ahead and fasten it. A lot going on.
I mean, we're live, so we're gonna come on the
time we normally come on. But man, if we could
have bought ourselves an extra thirty minutes, tonight would have
been the night we're jam packed. We're hi Atapa kind
of gloomy but dark. Also downtown Nashville, Tennessee. On this Sunday,
October twenty sixth, the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five.

(00:35):
I mean, we lead the show with breaking news. How
about a good old fashioned LSU team meeting called on
a Sunday night. I wonder what that's about. Well, I
think Brian Kelly is gonna be fired, That's what I
think it's about. Let me tell you something. You remember
a couple of weeks ago, going into the LSU Vanderbilt game,
Remember how I spoke, not really in a cloak and

(00:57):
dagger fashion. I just said, hey, if they lose this game,
going to go from two to ten really quick. Well
they lost the game, and it went from about two
to eight really quick, and then they lost last night
which we were about to talk about, and it went
to thirteen really quickly. So there's a lot going on.
We're live. If news breaks, we will well, we'll discuss
it on this show because that's where we've discussed such things.
We've got full week nine reaction. I got a lot

(01:19):
of papers in my hand, full week nine reaction. The
AP has disgraced the state of Iowa. I will talk
about that. The AP poll was released a little while ago,
and we will discuss that Bama came back from the
dead yesterday, Texas came back from the dead yesterday. Iowa
just threw another team in the wood Chipper. It's crazy.

(01:40):
So we got a lot to talk about. We've got
a tour decision. It was one of the toughest tour
decisions that I can remember, because this week's really interesting.
There's not a game that just like reaches out and
grabs you. But we have made a decision and I
will talk about it. So we've got a jam pack show.
We'll see just how jam packed it is. It's already
going to be jam packed. It could be like all
time jam packed. Our balls are in LSU's court. They're

(02:03):
watching us in Little Rock Arkansas, Ithaca, New York, Chicago, Illinois, Pasca, Goula,
Mississippi tuned in as well. Appreciate you guys, wo Man,
Where else can we start? Texas. A and M just
obliterated LSU last night, forty nine to twenty five. I
give the game two and a half Chiwai. Now, if

(02:24):
you're an Aggie fan, this was a five chali classic,
I understand that. But for the rest of America, you
kind of sort of made it ugly in the second half,
kind of pulled away. The death Valley at Night thing
is true, but it's with a condition, and we discussed
this last week. Death Valley at Night. If LSU is tied,
if they're leading, man, that places insane. I've been there,

(02:46):
I've stood on the field. It's unbelieva. It's unlike anything
that you would ever see in American sport. I would
argue global sport. However, we might as well have spoiled
this game with how thoroughly we previewed it last week.
You're not wasting time watching this show. But even if
you didn't watch this show, I said what I said

(03:07):
here elsewhere, and frankly, I think I articulated it a
little better elsewhere. So Bradley cue up the clip as
we get into reacting to this game about what I
said about it ironically with David Nuno and the guys
over at Tech SACS. Here's what happens in Death Valley
at night when things go wrong Death Valley on a
Saturday night when ls he was losing empties very quickly,

(03:29):
and the ones who remain remain to yell at Brian
Kelly and to voice their displeasure, and it becomes very
toxic for the home team and it becomes very uncomfortable,
and you love it if you're the road team. So yeah,
if you let LSU play a competitive game or they
play with the lead, that place will be a nightmare
for you. If you can flip the switch in there,
it won't take much. The gasoline's already there. You just

(03:51):
I don't know why you bit the match, but you
got You just gotta strike the match and throw it.
And if A and M strikes the match and throws it,
that place will take care of the rest. You can
actually wep and ize a road environment. It's a very
strange dynamic. Yeah, I mean, no one delivered spoilers to me.
I'm just saying I saw it happen last year. Bama
went down there and did it last year, and then

(04:11):
A and M went down there and did it last night.
Here's the thing about history and people always doubting Texas
A and M because of what they have or haven't
done historically. History is history because of what people that
came before you did or didn't do. A and M's
history has nothing to do with Mike Elko. A and
M's history has nothing to do with Marcel Reed or

(04:32):
Colin Klein or any of a number of guys on
the team, just name them. They weren't there in nineteen
thirty eight or fifty eight or eighty. They don't have
anything to do with A and M coming up short
in the past. What they control is what happens now
and moving forward. So I found myself watching this game
last night from a very peculiar angle because I kept

(04:54):
thinking about A and M fans. I think Texas A
and M fans actually won that game last night, Josh,
that's not Marcel Reid. Marcel Reid's on the field, I know, Well,
did you see Cassius Howell in that defensive front getting
after the pastor those are players. Did you see the
game Colin Klein called that's the offensive coordinator. I know
all that, But see here's what else was going on.

(05:15):
Not nearly as many people were paying attention to what
was happening in Lexington, Kentucky. But I was watching the
guy A and M tried to hire two years ago
get drug all over his home field by Tennessee. His
name's his name is Mark Stoops. A and M tried
to hire Mark Stoops. You know who prevented it? A
and M fans. A and M fans prevented it because

(05:36):
they care about the program. Now, you can get criticized
sometimes for loving your program to death, and you can
get criticized for interfering in matters that you have no
business interfering in. But A and M fans actually saved
their program, ironically, from probably finding itself in the position
Kentucky does right now or LSU does right now, and
instead they're the ones swinging the hammer instead of having

(05:59):
the hammer swung out. So all that stuff happened last
night is downstream of A and M fans revolting against
what would have been a terrible decision, So good for them.
And then part two of it if you kind of
turned the game on late and you're saying, oh, man,
A and M's running it up on LSU and death Valley, LS,
you must have done this wrong or that wrong. Buddy. Yeah,

(06:21):
it looks bad, but it could be a lot worse.
When it was forty nine to eighteen, I was thinking
to myself, A and M threw a pick in the
end zone, didn't they? Yeah, yeah they should have. It
could have been a lot worse. Yes, it could have
been a lot worse. So even when they went into
the half and you come out in the second half
and you're still trailing, I don't know how you felt.

(06:41):
I felt there was never a doubt in the game.
I felt so good about picking A and M in
this game. I felt so good. I went on fan
Duel and Bett aught lines. I started laying seven and
a half points, ten and a half points. So this
game was very good to me last night. I'll tell
you who it wasn't good too, though, pres Bradley, you
guys can go ahead and begin to queue it up here.

(07:04):
It's one of those rare cases we had. It happened
once this season. Penn State got embarrassed so thoroughly that
their own fan base reached out and said, hey, look,
just go ahead and do it. Just make us the
Sarah McLaughlin Special. Like they were so ready for their
own organization to be called into question, they proactively begged

(07:26):
to be the Sarah McLaughlin Special. LSU got so thoroughly
embarrassed last night. We have no choice. Their own people
have asked for it. LSU is the Sarah McLaughlin Special.
A and M scored more in the second half than
LSU had allowed in any game so far this year
Death Valley at Night they got out rushed two twenty

(07:47):
four to sixty. A and M. They just got two
more sacks since we started the show that had seven
sacks eleven tackles for loss. LSU was three of fourteen
on third and fourth down. This is a gotta have
it game, mind you we continue. Brian Kelly spent the
night basically treating his staffers like they were behind the

(08:09):
counter employees at the DMV as they were executing a
game plan he approved, by the way, So that was
a pretty embarrassing scene. And then the fourth quarter of
this game ends up being LSU hosting what amounted to
a live infomercial on National TV for Texas A and
M in their own building, while the road fans take

(08:31):
over your own building because they're the only fans left
in the building. And meanwhile, the ESPN cameras are isoing
on fire. Brian Kelly signs so optically, worst case imaginable scoreboard,
worst case imaginable LSU emphatically this week's Sarah McLaughlin special.

(08:52):
It brings me no joy. All right, I'll tell you,
I'll tell you what we're gonna do. Jesse. Now, this
is the first time that I know of that this
is what happened as we're talking about someone. You can
confirm this in my ear, Jesse. Okay, this is crazy timing.
So Brian Kelly's been fired as the coach at LSU.

(09:12):
As we're speaking, as I'm talking to you live on
this Sunday night, we'll market seven o nine ish pm
Central Standard time, LSU has fired Brian Kelly. So I
guess it makes sense coming right out of this Sarah
McLaughlin's special. No less impeccable timing. Whoever decided to pull
the lever down there when they did impeccable timing. So

(09:34):
let's just go ahead and let's just go ahead and
react to this live. Brian Kelly is done. He is
out as the head coach at LSU. You can check
out Pete and Akos. I'm sure he'll do a great
job over at On three laying out all the details
and how the buyout structured and all that stuff. I
don't care. It's not my money. I don't have to
pay it. Brian Kelly never understood the assignment at LSU.

(09:55):
He never understood what the L stood for. And it
turns out the l's ended up just staying for losses.
But the L on that chest right there stands for Louisiana.
Brian Kelly had no interest in Louisiana. He had interest
in two letters. One of them's B, the other one's K,
and L didn't really have much place in it to
the point where he got there and almost as part

(10:16):
of this preconceived agenda, flushed a lot of Louisiana people
out of the building at Louisiana State University, including many
who could have been very useful to him. One of
them equipped players to whip his tail last night in
his own building. That's Tommy Moffatt. He's the least of
hoopst not the most of hoopster or in total. But

(10:37):
you know it's funny that it doesn't have anything to
do with him being an outsider. Okay, Brian Kelly was
an outsider. Sure he's not from the South. Sure he's
not from Louisiana. Neither was Saban. Saban's the best they've
ever had there. Well, where'd he come from? Came from
West Virginia by way of Michigan State. But I'll tell
you what he did. He looked at the LSU job
and was attracted to it because of Louisiana. Brian Kelly

(11:01):
was attracted to it because he thought he could make
a lot of money and just kind of go spend
some more money and get better athletes down there and
win a title doing it the way he's always done it,
and never did it factor into his decision making. Maybe
I should harness what makes Louisiana great. And so it
was really obvious. Like as time went on, you noticed

(11:23):
my tune changed on Brian Kelly, really changed. Anyone who's
watched the show for a while knows. When LSU hired him,
I thought he'd do really good things there. My tune
pretty radically changed on him a couple of years ago,
and I stopped praising him. We didn't have him on
the show anymore. That was a conscious effort. Now, Brian
Kelly never did anything to me behind the scenes. He

(11:44):
was always really good to us, So there was nothing personal.
There was no vendetta. It's personal to me because I
love LSU, because LSU had told the story many times
in twenty nineteen, was kind of responsible for this show
blowing up. So I've always had a very very special
corner of my heart that's reserved for LSU. And I
saw a guy that didn't properly respect the job he

(12:05):
had and didn't fully appreciate the job he had. He
appreciated making the money. He appreciated the idea of having
LSU on his chest because it meant, Hey, I'm a
major sec head coach that's making eight figures per year.
I like that idea. I like standing on top of
what other people have built to try and grab a
brass ring that I couldn't grab it. Notre dame. I

(12:26):
like that idea, but I'm not so in love with
the idea of making myself one of them. He didn't
ever want to be one of them. One of you
one of us, whatever you want to call it. So
I cooled on him a couple of years ago because
I kind of found out what the inner workings were
about down there. He was checked out. He was totally
checked out. Now, I don't mean that in the kind

(12:47):
of way that a teacher is checked out the last
two weeks of spring semester when she knows she's about
to retire. Not that kind of checked out a college
football check college football coach checked out, still working a
ton of hours, So I don't mean it like that.
But in the most critical parts of roster construction season,
their portal recruiting, this dude was on a beach and

(13:07):
it never really got talked about publicly, and I never
talked about it publicly, but hey man, he's gone now,
so I'll talk to you about it now. I lost
all professional respect for how he was going about his
business there when I found out how checked out he
was on some of the most critical parts of LSU football.
And here's the thing, it's not a personal thing with him.

(13:29):
I'm fine with Brian Kelly personally, but professionally, there are
not many jobs like the head coach at LSU. Some
would argue it's the best job in the sport if
you don't believe that it's a top five job in
the sport. So however you view that only a few
select people get to hold those positions, You've got to
dedicate your life to it, and he didn't. He dedicated

(13:52):
some of it, But I mean the guys on a
beach in Florida when a lot of the most critical
periods of the calendar are going on, and there are
other folks just grinding a way in that building and
in some cases you're landing kids. He knows very little
about guys. They added staffers that in some cases he
didn't know a ton about. I mean, I would challenge

(14:15):
it's not my business. I'm not a reporter down there.
But you know, now that this era has come to
an end, I think you'd be shocked at how little
interaction he had with some people before they were added
to his staff. Consequently, those people ended up being some
of the best people to arrive in that building. He
made some additions there that ended up being train wrecks.

(14:37):
So that's what had me check out on Brian Kelly.
So you probably noticed, if you've watched or listened to
the show, for a while. You've noticed I had kind
of a tone change about him. Well that was why.
That was why I didn't have a lot of respect
for the way he was going about doing things there.
This can be the best job in the country. The
right person would view it as the best job in

(14:58):
the country. Pretty much any coach would view it as
a top five job. So that's the range of ranking
of the LSU job. But this is such a bombshell.
I don't want to overstate. I mean, I was kind
of ready for this to happen today, so my first
instinct was to give you my personal opinion of Brian Kelly.
I mean, it's just pathetic to have watched how this
went down the last few weeks. It was really obvious

(15:20):
what the strategy was. The strategy was, and I got
to give our folks at Notre Dame credit. Man a
lot of people I disagreed with in the past, and
they had the book on him and so they had
it figured out well before some of us did, so
credit to them. But the strategy was position yourself to
take credit if it works, and then when you see

(15:41):
it not working, reposition yourself to be sure. There are
several bodies in front of you to throw under the
bus long before it's time for years to be thrown
under there. And that was the case last night. I mean,
you know how pathetic it is to sit there and
scream in the face of another grown man. I don't
care if he's your subordinate, he's on your staff, he's

(16:02):
making fractions you do. Every single offensive play call is
coming through those headsets, and he hears every one of them.
For you to sit there afterwards, special teams, offense, defense, whatever,
and act shocked and screen what are we doing with
a bunch of exploit is thrown in knowing good andwell
cameras are zoomed in on him. That's done with purpose,

(16:23):
because Brian Kelly may be many things, but stupid's not
one of them. So that's done with purpose. And I
would I would venture to think this time last week
when we did this segment, and I was alluding to,
you know, him probably being put in a position to
sacrifice some for the greater good of the organization. I
think probably what happened last week around this time is, hey,

(16:46):
if you go lay an egg, we're going to have
to have a scalp or two. And it was probably
gonna be Joe Sloan. And I think that's why he
made sure you saw him jump down Joe Sloan's throat
last night, because it was going to be Joe Sloan's
head on the guillotine day if Brian Kelly had his say, Well,
it just so happens it's Brian Kelly's and so that's
the way it's gone down. That wasn't his plan, though.

(17:08):
Now he's gonna get a ton of money to not
coach anymore and to go golf and to go sit
on the same beach that he was sitting on during
key periods of the year anyway, So you don't really
weep for Brian Kelly. But there are a bunch of staffers.
They're grown adults, man, they're grown men. They're making good
money in their own right. But I thought they were
put in such a compromise position. It's one thing if
you got a head coach fully checked in and you're

(17:31):
doing your all and he's doing his on it's not
good enough. Yeah, you all bear the burden of responsibility.
But I mean, can you imagine how toxic that building
has been. I can because I talk to people in it.
But I'm telling you that building has been beyond toxic.
You don't have to know anybody there. Turn the game on.
Have you ever seen a more miserable existence than an

(17:53):
LSU staffer or LSU fans for that matter. Did you
see that place last night? Look like anywhere you want
to be. And I know a lot of you will say, well, hey, man,
you pay me one or two million dollars, I'll put
myself in that position. But here's the thing. If you're
on the LSU staff and you're able to be making
that kind of money, that also means you're equipped to

(18:13):
be on several dozen other staffs where they're making comparable money,
but they don't have to deal with that. So you know,
you're in that position and all you're doing is staring
out the window, frowning at all your friends and other
places having the time of their lives. It's a tough job,
it's a rough industry. But I'm thinking, you know, from

(18:34):
the perspective of an LSU fan right now, And I
was just thinking today, what does the future hold for me?
We lost out on Bryce Underwood, This is it forgetting
us Meyer. This was kind of going to be our
last ride with him. I didn't really have much confidence
for the future under Brian Kelly. But now the future
doesn't include Brian Kelly anymore, and so the LSU job

(18:54):
is open, and I think we can speculate in the
coming days. I said the other day, I think you'd
be pretty surprised at how many names would be in
the running if this job ever opened up. This job
in the coaching world is viewed a little bit differently.
I think a lot of it has to do with
what Nick Saban did to the stature of the job,

(19:17):
the profile of the job, and even since he left,
this has been a premier job. I still think it
is that. I think it is revered by a lot
of people. You've got to make sure that the alignment
is there, and that's been another critical issue down there,
and that's kind of what I'm waiting to see. Like
we're live right now, So Jesse, I don't know if
we've heard anything beyond just Brian Kelly, but I mean,

(19:40):
I don't know how you don't look at Scott Woodward
right now. Scott Woodward was responsible for the Jimbo Fisher
fiasco at Texas A and M. He has now got
the Brian Kelly disaster in his lap. I mean, they've
had critical financial issues down there in part because of
Scott Woodward. So't you've got an organizational situation that's just
football related, then you got an athletic department situation that

(20:03):
the football situation resides under. So if I'm a premier
head coach, you got to convince me you've got your
affairs in order, because the one thing I'm not gonna do.
One thing I'm not gonna do is go compete against
Sark and Debor and whoever Florida hires, wherever Kiffin's gonna be,
who knows, really, who knows Kirby all these guys. I'm
not competing against them with one hand tie behind my

(20:25):
back because here's what happens. What happens is I've got
the LSU job. So the public thinks I have every
resource imaginable at my disposal, and the public thinks I'm
working eye to eye or maybe even at a slightly
advantaged position relative to my peers, and all the while
behind the scenes, I'm not. I'm looking up at them
because they've got full reiin and they've got a well

(20:47):
oiled machine of an athletic department, and I don't. I'm
not stepping into that, and don't expect to ask a
premier name to step into that unless you overpay for them,
which they've done in the past, or if you make
some internal changes down there. So let's see, let's see
how that turns out. But it can be the best
job in the country. Guys, LSU season for now is dead.

(21:11):
I would expect Frank Wilson, Jesse, do we know this.
I would expect Frank Wilson to be named interim head coach. Hey, look,
I don't know about Frank's prospects as a head coach.
One thing I will not doubt about Frank Wilson. Frank
Wilson loves LSU. If you want a guy who loves LSU,
if you want a radical departure from what the norm was,

(21:32):
you're going to trade in some coaching credentials or head
coaching credentials. But Frank Wilson loves LSU. This is going
to be the coaching search that every other coaching search
works downstream of. I cannot imagine the people at Florida tonight.
I cannot imagine the fists pounding the table in Gainesville.
The Florida job's a good job too. I'm just saying,

(21:55):
the last thing on this planet those people wanted was
to see LSU pull the trigger when they did. Oh man, guys,
if you're not subscribed to the channel, I'm telling you,
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carousel you've ever seen. And we're smack dab in the
middle of conference championship run, and we're smack dab in
the middle of the playoff run. The playoff rankings haven't

(22:16):
even come out yet. So we're going to have the
Florida job open, the Arkansas job open, The LSU job
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(22:38):
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(23:01):
under those constraints because we get to call our shots
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we appreciate it. Yeah, So what I wanted to do, Jesse,
because A and M actually won the game, So I
want to continue to talk about A and M. We
just had to fit the Brian Kelly firing right there
in the middle. Oh Man, seven twenty three. Texas A

(23:22):
and M just coming out of this thing. I know
they looked super impressive last night, and they did. Okay,
here's what we got to make sure of with Texas
A and M. We got to make sure that they
peak at the right time. If Texas A and M
peaks at the right time, they can win a national championship.
Make no mistake about that. The people who doubt that
only doubt that because of the past. You can't be

(23:43):
doubting that because of football related reasoning. You can't be
there is one thing you could be thinking. You could
be thinking Ohio State is like a super team, and
no one's beating them. If you hold that opinion, then
maybe you're not doubting A and M. You just think
everyone's a distant second, third, fourth, fifth to Ohio State
or Indiana, even or Ohio State and Indiana. Look, if

(24:04):
you think that, I'm not going to try and talk
you off that. But if you don't think that, and
if you think everyone's gettable, the only other reason I
can think of that you're not circling A and M
as a national title contender, it's because they haven't ever
done it. And so if they haven't ever done it,
I don't believe they can do it. You're prerogative again,
and penalties are an issue with them. They are still

(24:26):
turnover prone. It's totally new territory. November is the longest
month of the year. We always say that around here.
So this organization is about to experience a lot of firsts.
I grant you all that, But man, they're an extremely
dynamic team. They're a dangerous team. I think their best
ball is in front of them. Their pass rush can

(24:46):
change a game, their receivers can change a game. Their
tailbacks can change a game. Their quarterback can change a game.
They can win a multitude of different ways. They've won
shootouts this year, They've won Slugfest this year. So if
we were described I mean Alabama or Georgia that way,
you'd make them the title favorite. It just so happens
it's A and M. So they've got a game at

(25:07):
Missouri in a couple of weeks, they got South Carolina
at home, they got Samford, and then they go to Texas.
There is a distinct possibility they are undefeated in Atlanta.
That is a distinct possibility. Frankly, at this point, they've
got some breathing room. They can lose two of their
last four and go to the playoff. Alabama is the
odds favorite to win the sec A and M is
right behind them. There's a little gap between the wrestler

(25:29):
right now, those two are favored to face off in Atlanta.
But what a night this ended up being. What a
chain of events this ended up triggering Quick Trip. I
feel like our tank's already on empty. I feel like
we've had a whole show's worth of content and we're

(25:49):
twenty five minutes in tonight. It's just the beauty of
live YouTube, isn't it. Quick Trip didn't take us far
yesterday because we didn't have far to go. We just
went down the street to Vanderbilt for our second Vandy
game in as many weeks. You know, we've been to
more Vandy games this year than every other team because
we haven't been anywhere twice this year so far, have

(26:09):
we I don't think we have homers. We probably are.
We probably are. The fall out Lie tour is entirely
fueled by quick trip. We appreciate them. Here's the conundrum.
Have you looked at the slate this Saturday. There's no
like Marquee game, There's no main event game. There are
a lot of comparable games, which begs the question where

(26:33):
should we go now? In these kinds of situations, As
Mema would say, what I like to do is I
like to ask, well, where have we not seen a
game before? So we could have gone Vandy Texas, but
we've been to Austin, We've seen games at Texas. This
would have been our third Vandy game in a row.
We could go where game Day's going, Cincinnati, Utah, but

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we started last season at Utah. So there are a
lot of places that we've been already. We know somewhere
we haven't been the Land of Sherwood Blunt. You know
the land of Eric Dickerson, the land of Craig James,
the land of Rhet Lashley. Southern Methodist University. We've been

(27:15):
there in the spring for the Speaker series, but we've
never been to a game at SMU. That changes. Six
days from now. Miami is going to SMU. It's a
critical conference game for both of them, and we will
be there. Doesn't hurt that it's an eleven am kickoff,
does not hurt at all. But we are taking the
show to Dallas. We are taking the tour to Dallas.

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Hoops amongst us knows we may spend multiple weeks in
a row in the state of Texas. Spoiler alert, spoiler alert.
So that's where the faultont Lie tour is headed this Saturday,
acc homersm those will be the new allegations. Let's continue.
We've got a lot of show. We got a lot
of show to go. LSU, so respectful. Those folks are

(27:56):
down there firing a head coach during the show. This
is like, you know what, I'm not even gonna mention
that I'll be accused of becoming political. Look, I'm just
saying there are certain shows in the political sphere in
the past, specifically talk radio, specifically midday afternoon drive on
the East Coast, where it became kind of well known

(28:19):
that the big political movers and shakers would make sure
their news broke right before this certain show went on
air because that show moved the dial nationwide. I'm not
saying our show has become that in college football, I'm
just slightly suggesting it. That's all I'm saying. Do I
think the governor and the board of trustees and the
donors all sat around a table tonight and said, let's

(28:41):
wait until Pate goes live. Yes, that's absolutely what I'm saying.
And until proven otherwise, that's the story we're going to
roll with. Okay ole Miss beat Oklahoma thirty four to
twenty six. I gotta be real with Lane Kiffin. I
doubted him. I doubted that Lane Kiffin could win this

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game yesterday and to a degree, Ole Miss, but they
won it that sec eleven am windows pretty wild right now,
by the way, three and a half tili game, very
entertaining game there. Weather left a lot to be desired.
Oklahoma's defense left a lot to be desired. Or were
they always right to be picked off? And Ole Miss
just finally ended up being the one to do it.

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So I was confident that Oklahoma would win this game.
So I whiffed on this one. We hit on a
lot of other stuff, but I whiffed on this one.
We did learn lessons, though, so it was a real
gut check moment for Old Miss. They really school Oklahoma's defense.
And to be fair, I think I said this on
the show last Wednesday or Thursday, we didn't have show Wednesday.

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I said I was getting some feedback from coaches around
the league, and there were a lot of coaches around
the SEC who thought oh U's corners may be in
trouble here, Like it's good defense overall, but the corners
aren't elite. The secondary is not elite. And you know,
I thought the dynamics were against Ole Miss so much
that I kind of ignored it. I shouldn't have, because

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oh U secondary kind of got I wouldn't say exposed,
but just targeted and victimized a little bit more than
you've seen all year. Seven passes in this game accounted
for over two hundred yards for Ole Miss. Kawan Lacey
had seventy eight yards. But they were a big seventy
eight yards rushing twenty seven carries for seventy eight yards.

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That's under three yards per carry. Normally, that stat line
indicates you got stuffed. I did not feel like that
watching Kewan Lacey against Oklahoma yesterday. So it was a
huge gut check moment. And I'll go over the dynamics
again in a second. The reason, you know, in retrospect
why you may ask me, why did you why'd you
like Oklahoma so much? Well, I'll tell you I told
you before. I'll tell you again. Oh you was real

(30:49):
hollow yesterday offensively though, This is the other thing that
stood out to me. This is where Pete Golding in
his defense, deserves a lot of credit because Oklahoma did
get to twenty six, so they got it to, you know,
one possession, and it looks like it's a close game,
and some of the offensive stat lines look kind of
semi okay, But oh, you had a seventy six yard
and a sixty five yard touchdown pass and run. You

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can't ever shave the explosives out. Explosives are a key
part of the game. Those are two capbuster explosive plays.
The reason I say it was a hollow performance is
because there's a big difference when you put up you know,
like four hundred total yards, let's say, and it's just
a product of a bunch of sustained drives. Then there's
another kind of game where two plays account for fifty

(31:34):
percent of your total yardage and the rest of the
afternoon they kind of handled you. The latter kind of
describes how Ole Miss handled Oklahoma here because outside of
those two explosives, it is kind of a paper popper.
I would say, oh, you had fourteen first downs, they
were five of seventeen on third and fourth down. They
had seven drives of four plays or less in this game,

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So it wasn't a bin, but don't break because almost
broke a couple of times. Other than that, they didn't
even bend a whole lot. It was a subpar game
from John Matteir. Again, one of the lamest things that
people are doing to me right now is sending me
bills in the mail. The second most lame thing people

(32:16):
are doing is they keep on making fun of me
for betting this kid to win the Heisman. And I
don't know. I had to ask Jesse today because I
sometimes need my memory jogged. Did he not have surgery
on his throwing hand literally within the last month. Yes,
I'm being told, yes, that did happen. It's not the
biggest shock in the world that the passing numbers have

(32:38):
tailed off. And for anyone who wants to say that
was gonna happen anyway, you don't know that, you don't
know that. So he was seventeen of thirty one, two
twenty three. One of those was a big play. Very pedestrian.
I kind of think he is what he is at
this point. I would view him as very limited, you know,
because they had to cut his hand open a couple
of weeks ago. That tends to happen when you have

(32:58):
surgery on your throwing and no matter how much your
doctor posts on an Oklahoma message board that everything's okay,
sometimes it's not okay. The dynamics were against Ole Miss.
Let me tell you why I thought Oklahoma was gonna
win this game. A couple of actually three or four things.
It was the second leg of a back to back
road spot for Ole Miss, so that's always tough. It

(33:19):
was tough for several other teams. Yesterday you had the
Florida rumors surrounding Lane Kiffin and we were fresh off
a week where we saw Matt Ruhle's team just implode
at Minnesota after everyone had speculated about him in Penn
State all week. Now, Lane's a little more used to this,
so maybe I should have dismissed that more than I did.
He had not had a single ranked road win in

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his entire career at Ole Miss, so he was going
to have to accomplish a first in very trying circumstances
and probably the most tangible football related aspect. They had
just played a week before, and they had guys. I
heard McElroy talk about this in the broadcast. A bunch
of their guys on the defensive line played a ton

(34:03):
of snaps. They were on the field over eighty plays
the week before, but they have no depth, so a
lot of they had defensive line to play over eighty
snaps the week before, and I thought that OU was
gonna own the second half because of that, and it
just never turned out that way because they couldn't sustain anything.
That's where the credit goes. Now. It would be nice
if Full Miss had to buy this week. They don't.
They play South Carolina. It is no longer October, but

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we'll talk about that a little bit later, but nevertheless,
they play South Carolina this weekend. Ole Miss right now
is a one loss team. They're one losses to Georgia.
They've already gotten through LSU. They went to Georgia, they
went to OU, and they went two to one in
that stretch and they didn't drop a game they weren't
supposed to before that. So they had no breathing room

(34:48):
this time last year because they dropped the Kentucky game.
This year, ironically, the Kentucky game and the Washington State
game were kind of close, but they won both of them,
so now they have breathing room. So I don't know
how many scenarios there are where Olemiss doesn't make the playoff.
They've got one loss, so they don't have a ton
of wiggle room. But they play South Carolina, Citadel, Florida,
and at Mississippi State. I guess the schedules right in

(35:11):
front of me. They'll be favored in all four. Doesn't
mean they went all four. They could drop one though
and still make the playoff. So it's right there. Man.
If they blow this one, they've really found a way
to blow it. Oklahoma is now a two loss team.
Look everyone's firing their coaches right now, and I know
there's going to be a fair amount of traction and

(35:32):
noise around Brenton Venables. I'm not there at all. On
Brinton Venables. You guys can say whatever you want to.
They're probably not done losing. My guess, when they got
to go to Knoxville and two Tuscaloosa and they got
Missouri and LSU to close the season, probably one or
two more losses on there, they kind of are who
they are at that point. We picked them to go
eight and four. That would still be my pick for

(35:53):
OU to go eight and four. Just again, like I said,
come on last year, it's not a disaster. Don't need
wholesale changes. Maybe some position coach changes, which happens every
year anyway. Yeah, but fire Brint Venables. No, No, I'm
not there. It's not my program, you guys program, But
I'm not there. Let's move on again. I know a

(36:16):
lot of people are watching if you're just tuning in.
Brian Kelly has been fired as the head coach at LSU.
You know what, this takes me back to Jesse. It
takes me back to doing talk radio. We would do
three hours of afternoon drive radio in Columbus, and a
lot of times when you're doing shows at the close
of business on the East Coast, a lot of the

(36:37):
news breaks at the end of the day, so frequently
you'd have breaking news, and all the consultants would always
tell you make sure you recap the news every fifteen minutes,
because the average commute is like thirteen and a half
minutes in Columbus, Georgia. So we would, you know, like
if Bobby Cox retired as the manager of the Braves,
you're hitting at news every fifteen minutes. So I have
I feeled at my obligation because I know some people

(37:00):
just tuning in now they don't even know Brian Kelly
got fired. Brian Kelly has been fired as the head
coach at LSU, and we have already reacted top to bottom,
soup to nuts to it, as Mema would say. Mema
never said that. So you can rewind in the show.
Just make sure you catch up on the rest of
the show afterwards. Alabama, somehow, some way survived October yesterday,

(37:21):
twenty nine to twenty two. The final I would give
this game for chi. I would imagine most of the
world ended up being tuned into this game, and I,
if you're listening on podcasts, am wagging my index finger
at many of you. This is your fault. This is
not my fault. It's your fault. Because I tried to
warn everyone. Did we not use this microphone last week?

(37:42):
To warn the nation? I felt like Paul Revere and
I said, Coctober is coming. October is coming? And everyone
said nah, No. South Carolina already had their chances, Bama's role,
and now they're favored to win everything in the SEC.
And haven't you They've already beaten you oga, they beat Vandy,
they beat Missouri, they beat Tennessee. This is South Carolina.

(38:05):
This is where you get to exhale a little bit.
And then you go into the bye week and they're
favored by double digits. Oh it moved from thirteen and
a half to eleven and a half. That's still a
comfortable whim And then guess what happened? A football game?
And they don't always go the way they're supposed to,
and it's twenty two to fourteen and it's the fourth quarter,

(38:25):
and all of a sudden, people started to believe in October.
And I'm over here at Vanderbilt watching that game happen
in front of me. I got the eye Josh here,
and we all know that Vandy's WiFi comes through, so
you're kind of watching two games at once. And I'm
just sitting there thinking to myself. I must have mouthed
these words a thousand times. I told them, I told

(38:46):
them they didn't want to listen. I told them I
would call this a C level effort from Alabama, and
they won the game. I want to make sure I
have the proper tone here. This is a huge win
for Alabama, huge win. Ton of credit do for winning
this game. This is not the old school now. I
understand the new era we're in. You don't have to

(39:06):
you don't have to school me in the comments. I
get it. There's a lot of compacted nature about the
sport now. No team better exemplifies that than Alabama. Every
game is a one possession game. This is Kaylin de
Bores Washington just wearing Alabama clothing right now. Now. It
may not always be that way, but this year's team
seems to be that way. And before anyone thinks that's
a slight, I'm referring to a team that played for

(39:30):
a national championship. They're really good in those critical moments.
Our Buddy Brooks Austin's been talking about this a lot
on Twitter. You know, you got to win those criticals.
Bama just dominates the criticals. And therefore it doesn't matter
if it's forty two to ten or twenty nine to
twenty two, because the SEC League office just says it's
a win. So that's really what mattered here. Ty Simpson

(39:51):
nothing to write home about. First three quarters of this game.
They needed two scoring drives and he led two scoring drives.
And I would say the most important player outside of
Ty Simpson on this team is named Jeremy Bernard. And
in a day where Ryan Williams had some issues with drops,
in a day where lot Zer Brooks is out, in
a day where Isaiah Horton's limited, you needed every bit

(40:12):
of Jeremy Bernard, and there he was. And then you
got Ryan Grubb, who is putting on about as good
a clinic and play calling given their limitations as anyone
in America. Somehow, some way is able to squeeze that
sponge hard enough to where they get just enough offense
out and they did it again. Could not run the

(40:35):
ball to save their lives conventionally, and yet they still
find a way. See most of the time. Here's what
makes them so able to be bought into offensively. There
are a bunch of other teams around the country that
can't run the ball and their offense just implodes, It
just shuts down. Alabama somehow still able to function and
function at a fairly high level when it's time to

(40:57):
So that's really impressive to me. But I saw this
and I heard this yesterday. Stop me if this sounded
like you yesterday. You've watched Bama. They've looked really impressive
these last few weeks, right, and you watched this yesterday.
A lot of people watched this game yesterday and they said, man,
what's wrong with him? That isn't Alabama. That doesn't look

(41:17):
like Alabama. It absolutely is Alabama. It's just that people
don't think about teams in terms of ranges of outcome.
They just get this idea in their head and a
lot of people just watch highlights of games. So when
you think Alabama, you think Ryan Williams with some circus catches.
Ty Simpson, a lot of guys have been talking about

(41:37):
him now, is the best quarterback in this class? And
so you're watching this Highlight All twenty two tape and
you're seeing yonz Pierre get after the quarterback last year.
But your mind's thinking in terms of highlight that's not football.
That's not how football actually works. You're gonna be on
the field like seventy plays each way. It's a lot
of plays these days, but still, when you've got the
one hundred and twelfth best rushing attack in the country,

(41:59):
there's a lot of volatility that goes into the range
of outcome. And the reason I stressed the Tennessee game
last week so much in the lead up to this
game is because on the surface it looks like a
comfortable win. It wasn't. It wasn't because there was a
play near the half that if I just changed one
factor of it completely warps that game. And it's the

(42:20):
play right down near the goal line, which took a
game that could have been sixteen to fourteen Alabama going
into the half Tennessee with all the momentum to it's
twenty three to seven and Bama's got a death grip
on the game. Now you may think to yourself, what
are you trying to do? Discredit that play? No that's
a heck of a play by Zabim Brown. All credit
due to Cane Womack in the red zone defense. My

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point there was that ends up making a game look
like it was comfortable. It was a blowout. It wasn't that.
It wasn't All these games they're playing are really compacted,
they're really close. They're one possession. I almost said one
possession either way. They haven't been either. They've all gone
Bama's way, just like when Debor made that run at Washington,

(43:05):
all those games went his way. There's a ton of
skill in that. You just got to get comfortable with
being uncomfortable. If you're a Bama fan right now, it's
not Saban, it's not forty two to seven, or maybe
if we suck in the fourth quarter forty two to
twenty and everyone gets chewed out afterwards, it's not that anymore.
But wins are still wins. You shouldn't be shocked by

(43:28):
these outcomes, and it's gonna be a pretty consistent game script.
I think. Now here's the bad news. The bad news is,
yet again as a double digit favorite, you had to
really really sweat until the last minute. The good news
is you can also go turn in a game like
you did Agast Georgia, Alabama, go beat Ohio State, then
go beat Indiana, beat A and M. They could beat anybody.

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But they could also play Auburn in a few weeks
and trail in the fourth quarter. That's just the nature
of the games they're playing this year. There's gonna be
nail bier after nail bider. This also made me think
about South Carolina and why the college football playoff selection
process hurt for them so much worse last year. I'm

(44:09):
not saying they should have been in the playoff. Some
of them thought they should have been in the playoff.
They were in the running. They were like one of
the first few teams out. Now Bama ironically was also
one of the first few teams out. Bama fans just
looked at that and said, oh, well, we'll get him
next year. South Carolina fans don't get to say that
nearly as confidently, because now they're down several guys from

(44:30):
that group last year. They're nowhere close to being a
playoff caliber team. They're three and five, and you've got
Lenora Sellers essentially having to try and do it all.
A lot of the reports we heard from fall camp
have not panned out. That wide receiver room behind Nick
Harbor has not surprised anyone. They couldn't run the ball
yesterday either. They've averaged about three yards per carry outside

(44:51):
of Lenora Sellers this year. And what hurts is they've
hit on him. Leonora Sellers is a star quarterback. He's
a bona fide star. There are talent the likes of
which you rarely see come through your program, and what
happens when you do have one is you view it
as a Christmas tree and you throw every ornament you
got on that thing. And South Carolina didn't have enough ornaments.

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And what really hurts is he's going to go on
to do things in the NFL, and ten years from now,
someone's gonna say, hey, where'd he plays college ball? And
someone will say, oh, he plays South Carolina and you'll say, oh, man,
they must have had a really good stretch there, and
you'll look back and this year won't make a lot
of sense because you'll be asking how did they only
win five games with Leonora's Sellers called? Respectfully, I don't

(45:39):
want to say it this way because it's going to
sound bad. He's not the only one out there. They
fought their tails off yesterday. I don't mean that. I
mean they got to have better football players than they
have given the talent they have at quarterback, and that's
what will be the letdown when you ultimately, I think,
look back on this season, they've been through a lot
up there question the competitive character, the integrity, the buy in,

(46:03):
the culture. I don't question any of that. They don't
have enough good football players. It is the most academic
reason why you don't win. You didn't have enough good
football players. And it's not just a yesterday thing. Obviously,
they got plenty good enough products, at least of Academy
Sports and Outdoors. You can find those in and around Columbia.
You can find them in and around Nashville. You can

(46:25):
find it hopefully in and around your neighborhood. But even
if you can't, Academy dot Com has your hookup and
we appreciate it. You know, there may be some people
down in Baton Rouge who have foregone purchasing LSU gear
for a little while because they wanted changes in the program.
I can't confirm nor deny Academy had anything to do

(46:46):
with the firing of Brian Kelly tonight, I can confirm
Brian Kelly's been fired. And if that excites you, what
better way to celebrate than going and buying a purplely
gold T shirt at Academy tomorrow morning. I say tomorrow
morning because they may be closed already. You can go
on academy dot com and get it right now and
you can get tailgating equipment, short sleeves or long sleeves.
You know, the seasons they are are changing. We're rolling

(47:08):
back the clocks next week, which means it's dark at
two thirty three o'clock in the afternoon in Nashville. It's great.
Does wonders for seasonal depression. It's phenomenal. Even if you
don't have it, it gives it to you. That has
nothing to do with Academy. I digress. They still close
at the same time every night, so we appreciate them
longtime partner of the show, and they continue to be
just locked arm in arm with us. Again. I know

(47:33):
we got a ton of folks. We got like fifteen
thousand people tune in live. Yes, Brian Kelly has been
fired at LSU. It is a bombshell type night news wise,
there is a ton going on I have right now
on the eye, Josh, Let's just see who Jesse. Are
you seeing this? Yes, because you send it to me.

(47:55):
Fifty three million dollar buyout, second largest buyout in college
football history, can be paid monthly until twenty thirty one.
Should Kelly take another job, the buyout would reduce by
the amount of the news salary. To my knowledge, Jesse,
I don't think he has a duty to mitigate like
James Franklin does. Niko said he does have a duty

(48:16):
to mitigate. Okay, so well that sounds like Portuguese. All
that means is he's got to try and go get
another job, kind of like James Franklin has to do.
Was Franklin at the Falcons game today? By the way,
did you see that, Jesse? And he was wearing a
track suit like the most neutral colors ever. Anyway, has
nothing to do with this. That is the eighth So
LSU was open now eighth power for vacancy right now

(48:37):
and Frank Wilson interim head coach. So just oh, in
this economy, no less ungodly amounts of money being paid
to people not to coach. I don't know, it's not
my money and chances are. If you're watching this as
an lsuvan, it's not your money anyway, So you get
to go to work tomorrow, dust your hands off, and

(48:59):
say who are gonna get it? Anyway? It's been a
wild show so far. Just what I was going to say.
For a lot of you tuned in right now because
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(49:21):
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I was at Vanderbilt yesterday and they beat Missouri seventeen
to ten, and I got to put three chali on
this game, and I talked to a lot of Vandy
staffers on the field after the game. And one of

(49:43):
the growing trends in college football is when we're at
a game, one of the first things people ask is
how many chili? How many chili? Three three Chali. On
this game, we were fueled by quick trip all the
way down the road and back. They fueled our trip
down there. It tanks a sophisticated palette to appreciate this
kind of game, and I don't expect everyone to get it.

(50:03):
But what I will expect you to appreciate is that
this was a badlock Bowl, not even just a badlock stat.
And there's a lot of inside baseball nomenclature here. So
on the show we talk about padlock stats all the time.
A padlock stat is if I told you this stat Friday,
it would have let you know who was going to
win the game. The badlock stat is like the deadbeat
cousin of the padlock stat. The badlock stat is a

(50:26):
number or a collection of numbers that if I told
you Friday, would have fooled you into guessing which team
was going to win. So there was a team that
outgained the other three seventy six to two sixty five
in this game. There was a team that had a
twenty two to thirteen first down edge. There was a
team that ran seventy eight plays to their opponent's forty five.
There was a team with a thirteen minute time of

(50:48):
possession edge, and that team was not Vanderbilt. That team
was Missouri. And yet Missouri flew back home yesterday with
a loss because the game was won in the red
zone and Missouri was one one of three in that
portion of the field with seven points and Vandy was
two of two for ten points. Doesn't sound like a lot.
Josh didn't take a lot. Eleven points would have won

(51:10):
the game. Vandy scored seventeen. The game was also saved
in Vanderbilt territory. To me, this was the padlock stap,
paper popper of a padlock stap, a lot of alliteration.
On tonight's show, Missouri crossed the fifty yard line seven
times and netted ten points. That's getting it done. That's opportunistic, situational,

(51:31):
whatever you want to call it. And then there was
a third quarter capbuster play. Young ran at eighty yards
down the far sideline where I was standing for a touchdown,
and look at these low scoring games. That's all it takes.
It was just a nightmare of an afternoon from Missouri.
Third quarter, fourth and goal, They don't get it. And
then bot Pribulah is down at the bottom of the

(51:52):
pile and this was this is a bad scene on TV.
I had gone up to the press box for a
second to see some people saw him watching. You know,
I got this idea in my head, all right, Missouri
will score here and then there'll be you know, like
a nine minute commercial timeout, and I'll have time to
go back down on the field. Well, they get stopped
on fourth and goal and there's a big pile there,
and so then I'm saying by to some people, I'm

(52:14):
about to head back down. I didn't realize Perbula was
still down. I looked back down there and I saw
that he was down, and then they were tending to
em medically. But I didn't know it was both Perbula
yet because I couldn't see that far. So I got
on the elevator and went down. It was a bad scene, man.
It sucked because Vanderbilt Stadium as such that from the

(52:35):
end zone they were in, you can't go behind the
team benches on the natural playing surface to get to
the tunnel that Missouri comes out, because Vandy's benches go
all the way up against the wall. So you got
to take him under the stadium, which is the same
area where the elevator comes out and it looks like
fifteen thirty eight construction site underneath vandy Staium. It's actually

(52:57):
kind of awesome, but it looks like the Pyramids are
in the middle of being built down there. And I
walk out of the elevator and there's Boat Pribulah in
a wheelchair with an air cast on his leg and
his parents are walking by. And it's anytime players get
hurt in college, especially, I don't know why it's different
than pros. It's just it's so bad because it can
change like that. So the latest on him, by the way,

(53:20):
is he didn't break anything. Drink confirmed that yesterday. Eli
Drinkquitz didn't break anything, but it's a bad sprain, there's
ligament damage. There's an outside chance. They think he may
be able to come back at some point this year. Look,
I consider that a sigh of relief, especially when compared
to what it looked like in real time, because it

(53:41):
was kind of gross in real time. So that's good.
As for Missouri, it's their second conference loss. They still
got Texas A and M. They got to go to Oklahoma,
they got to go to Arkansas, they got Misissippi State,
so it's it's just seasons can change on a dime.
No better illustration of that than this game yesterday. Vandy

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is seven and one. Now they are three and one
in conference. Now, they've got a stretch coming up, and
it's a really interesting position they're in. Okay, because Vandy
has a one loss record right now, they can afford
if you're just talking about the playoff, they coul actually
afford to lose one more game and still make it.
They go to Texas this weekend. They're a two and
a half point dog in Austin, which implies they would

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be a slight favorite on a neutral field, because that's
a world that we live in now where Vandy would
be power rated above Texas. Then they've got Auburn at home,
They've got Kentucky at home, and they go to Tennessee.
So what's Fandy's record going to be? Everyone's paying attention
to them now, they're not sneaking up on anyone. What's

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Fandy's record going to be? They also just look, if
you love what clark Lee is doing there, there's going
to be a market for Clark Lee. Now. Unlike certain
pregame shows, I don't have a three leves agency in
my ear suggesting that I pressure anyone publicly to re

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sign clark Lee. I'm just saying out of the kindness
of my heart because I like him being a citizen
here in Nashville. Might want to step up if you
want to resign clark Lee or we want to keep
him here because there are more jobs opening by the minute,
and people aren't stupid. They notice what's happening here at
Vanderbilt and they think to themselves, if he could do
that at Vanderbilt, imagine you know the rest. They're watching

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us in Spanish Ford, Alabama, Charlotte, North Carolina, and Ogden, Utah.
We appreciate it so much. Jesse is texting me throughout
the show. Oh, let's oh my goodness. Oh it's a
It's an LSU hot board. Is this Nakos? Is this
Pete Nakos's first LSU hot board? Jesse? Oh, man, hey,

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is this in order? Like or did he just throw
these names out? It's not even alphabetical, it's the order
of the article. Huh. Well, it brings me no joy
and also no surprise to let you know that Lane
Kiffin is at the top of the LSU hot board.
There is a name beneath Lane Kiffen, And I'm just

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gonna tell you it's the name I've had in mind
the entire time for LSU, and that's Marcus Freeman. You
go make Marcus Freeman till you know Marcus Freeman's gonna
look at the LSU job if they offer him. That
is my gut. I've not talked to Marcus Freeman about that.
It is my gut that anybody looks at the LSU
job if offered. And I would strongly recommend LSU just

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write out on a piece of paper how much easier
it is to take transfers there that haven't graduated already
as opposed to what it's like trying to get him
in school in South ben That is where you'll find
out if Marcus Freeman would ever leave, because if he's
not going there, he's not leaving for a college job.
It would be NFL if someone ever prized Marcus Freeman away.

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Who else do we have on here just out of curiosity?
Kenny Dillingham is on here, Jeff Brahm's on here, Eli
drink Wentz, Clark Lee, there you go, Brent Key, John
Sumraw may not even have to sell his house if
he takes the LSU job. These are very interesting times.
So Marcus Freeman's been the name I've had in mind

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for quite a while with LSU. So now now we'll
see if it's actually something that's able to be a
reality or not. Let's continue. Texas they won this game?
Who how would I know? I turned it off after
they were down seventeen in the fourth quarter. Texas forty five,
Mississippi State thirty eight. Well, this has got to be

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a four and a half chili game, doesn't it? Oh?
There it is. There's the graphic four and a half
chili with an asterisk on it. Because I'm kidding about
turning the game off. I was glued to it. But
this is only a four and a half chili game
if you stay tuned in. So I ask you did you?
Did you stay tuned in? Because I've got it on
good authority many of you did not seventeen points game

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with ten minutes to go? Why would you stay tuned in?
Texas's offense sucks? Well, it sucked past tense. Texas could
be back now, who knows? They needed multiple scores on
the road with ten minutes to go, and you know
what they got multiple scores on the road. With ten
minutes to go, they had a nine play seventy five
yard touchdown drive. Then they forced a three and out,

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which was greatly aided by Mississippi State continuing to run tempo.
But you know what, I can't get mad at him
for that. Then there's a twelve play fifty three yard
field goal drive, another three and out, and then there's
a punt return for a touchdown, and now we're going
to overtime. And I mean, this is despite the fact
that Mississippi State kind of low key went to work

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on Texas's defense. They had five different pass catchers over
sixty yards yesterday. Can you imagine telling Jeff Levy you're
gonna have that happen, and you're gonna, I mean, you're
gonna be in the mid to upper thirty. I know
we got overtime there, but all that's gonna happen, and
you're gonna let another one get away. This is the

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same team that had Tennessee on the ropes and they
let him off the hook, and then they had Florida
down last week and somehow lost that one and then
this happens, and it's the kind of thing that if
you're looking at it from the if I'm looking at
this from the perspective of a Mississippi State fan, I
would not wish this on my worst enemy, which is
ironic because it happened to my worst enemy. Because not

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only did Mississippi State blow this thing in historical fashion yesterday,
enemy of the program, Brandon Walker was actually in the
building for it. And not only that, he had a
crew essentially documenting his every move because he wanted to
be there. And there they go up and he thinks
they've got it in the bag, and so we started

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to show himself. He started to feel himself a little bit,
and he's got someone trying to keep up with him. Look,
let's just put all our cards on the table. How
hard is it to keep up with Brandon Walker. He's
already out of breath. He took a break at the
forty yard line. Fireworks going off all over the place.
You're up seventeen on Texas and you're thinking, there's no
way this turns. There's no way this turns. And if

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it was just left up to the football team, it
wouldn't have turned. I'm fully convinced that if it was
just Mississippi State and Jeff Levy. They would have gotten
the job done yesterday. But the Brandon Walkers of the
world couldn't leave well enough alone. They couldn't just ring
the cowbell and wap up their buddies know what they
have to do. They had to feel themselves a little
bit too much. There's the evidence if you're listening on podcasts,

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Brandon Walker, with time left on the clock, screwed the
entire state of Mississippi. Figuratively, he threw the horns down.
You're not You're not who you thought you were. You
were still Mississippi State, Bud. You can't horns down with
time left on the clock. And so let me tell
you what happens. They go to overtime and I know

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it looks overcast there, but God could see everything happening
down there on that field in Startfelle, miss and he said,
it's that time. It's time, as I've done so many
times before, to teach Brandon Walker a lesson. And I
kid you not. They go to overtime and Texas hits
that game winning touchdown, and wouldn't you know it, it

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happens right in Brandon Walker's face. Look at that Now.
I don't know medically how long Brandon Walker will live.
He may live another sixty years. I know that his
soul died right there, right there, October twenty fifth. You
can go in and call it Brandon Walker's soul flatlines

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and Texas gets out of there with a win. Again.
It brings me no joy. It brings me no joy.
I think the game turned on the horns down and
until someone proves otherwise, I've got to believe that's fact.
So Brandon Walker lost this game from Mississippi State. You
know what this is for Texas? To me, this is
the Bluegrass Miracle. For those of you on FORMIL, you're back.

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In November of two thousand and two, Saban was at LSU.
They go up to Kentucky and they're down, and then
they storm from behind, but it still looks like Kentucky's
about to win, and they're ready to rush in the field.
They already dumped the gatorade on the coach and they
hit like a seventy or eightyar touchdown pass whatever it is, titball,
and they win the game and they dog pile and everything,

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and it was like one of the most memorable plays
in college football history. But I've listened to Saban talk
about the game many times before, and he like skims
over the actual Bluegrass miracle, and he's always wanting to
talk about the next week because the next week they
got blown out ironically by Alabama. And his whole message

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anytime he tells the story of the Bluegrass Miracle is
we committed sins as a college football team and got
away with it, and we happened to win a game,
and it just delayed us learning lessons because we thought
since we won the game, we didn't have to clean
anything up, you know, Oh well it's all absolved. And

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they got blanked the next week. Texas just won a
game they probably didn't have much business winning, but full
credit to him for winning it. Here's the follow up question,
how are you going to cash it in? Because you
committed several errors. You got a ton of flaws, and
now you're gonna face Vanderbilt fully equipped of making you
pay for them if you don't get right. So the

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age old question in life and in football, do you
have to suffer a loss? Do you have to learn
the lessons in the form of a loss, or can
you whistle past the graveyard? Learn the lessons and course
correct without having to suffer consequences in the form of
a loss. We're going to find that out. Texas is
six and two right now. They got to go home
against Vandy. They still got to go to Georgia, they

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still got Arkansas, they still got A and M. I've
got Texas. Most likely scenario is probably eight and four
right now, most likely, but they could go ten two,
they could go seven and five. All of these things
are in the cards right now for Texas. Very nervous
for Texas. Earlier today, we thought the power went out

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in the building. As it turns out, we just hadn't
moved around enough, so the motion detectors thought there was
no one in the building. But for a split second,
I thought, how crazy is it that flex Power is
a partner of our show, Yet here we are in
need of a generator and we don't have one in
the building. I've got one at home, we just don't
have it in the building. Crisis averted As I said,

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Jesse was just sitting there like a potato sack, and
the lights didn't even know that he was still in
the building. I think I was out of range of
the censor so it didn't pick me up an anyway,
but flex power could have helped us out. But look,
I'm a stormchaser, so I know the weather can get
a little rocky in the spring. But a lot of
you had bad weather come through this past weekend. Maybe
some of you dealt with power outages, or maybe some

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of you were just at a tailgate and you're saying
I need a little extra power. Flex power could have
helped you. Power can't help you, and they help us.
They're one of our big partners now, so we appreciate
them being on board. We just gave Way a generator
a couple of weeks ago. As a matter of fact,
you can go to myflexpower dot com slash Josh Pate
and you can get yourself one. They're incredibly quiet. I
could probably go to sleep with one of those things

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running in my bedroom. Not that they advise it. In fact,
I think they warn't against it in the guidelines that
they give you and whatnot. I'm just saying I'm a
fairly heavy sleeper. I'll grant you that I think I
could fall asleep next to one of those. In fact,
for promotional ideas, Jesse write that down. Can I go
to sleep with a flex power generator cranked next to me.

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I told you, if you just leave it to me,
I'd come up with the ideas. So there it is.
I think we just had a big ticket idea. There,
let's continue prayers for UCLA. All you can do is
pray for them. They got tossed into the wood chripper yesterday.
Indiana fifty six, UCLA six. It says here Indiana had

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touched on seven of their first nine drives. Somehow it
felt worse than that. I watched dog fights all over
the place yesterday, and in Indiana just body bags people.
And yet Kurt Signitti still looks aggravated. It's like it's
games taken too long? Man? What does that smell? This

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cold out here?

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Coach? It is now fifty six to six? Okay, whatever, okay, fine, great,
grand wonderful. No yelling on the bus. That's Kurt Signitti,
I mean, well, on his way to the Big Ten
championship game, well on his way to the playoffs again,
and just could not look more off put by the
whole ordeal I have here UCLA's drive chart. Are you interested? No,

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you shouldn't be, but you're gonna sit through it anyway. Interception,
three and out, turnover on downs three and out, fumble,
punt field goal. We head to the locker room for
some fabled halftime adjustments. We come back out field goal, interception,
turnover on downs. That is the end of the game.
That's all we got. And since u CLA lost this game,

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congrats to Tim Skipper. He got put on all the
graphics as opposed to when they win they put Jerry
newhisel on the graphics. We move on. Auburn won this game.
Are you I'm not Trey Biddy. I'm just I know
he said are you kidding me? A million times in
the Walk and Talk. Auburn thirty three, Arkansas twenty four.

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We bet Arkansas. Now we won. The ro Man Noutle
Express won money yesterday, but it was no thanks to Arkansas.
I think Bobby Patrino coached his way out of this job.
By the way, I thought Patrino was going to get
this job. Now I don't think he will, because that's
how quickly this stuff can turn. Arkansas's last four drives,
as they once upon a time had a twenty one
to ten lead. Interception, fumble, interception, interception, that is a

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dereliction of doing in the sport of football. Auburn had
five field goals and a pick six in the second half.
It's like they didn't go grab the game and take it.
It was Arkansas having to hand it to him three
or four times and then they finally said, okay, that
was the game. Oh and the weather was terrible, so
it was everything you could have wanted on a Saturday afternoon.

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I don't think anything's changed with Hugh Freeze there. I mean,
if anyone was watching this thinking, well, if he loses,
he's fired, but if he wins, the jobs saved, I
don't from what I hear, I don't think anything changed.
My guess is there will still be a change at Auburn.
That's my guess. Here's why I say guess number one
because I don't know. I'm not involved in the decision.

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This stuff can change by the hour. Number two. You
see right there that says Alabama. They play Alabama in
Jordenhair Stadium, and it doesn't matter if a high school
team takes the field in Jordenhair Stadium. If they're wearing
that AU helmet against Alabama, they could beat him. And
if they beat Alabam at the end of the year.

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You can imagine how that might by Hugh Freeze another year.
I wouldn't put anything past anything in that rivalry. So
that's where it stands right now. Iowa State lost to
BYU yesterday, forty one to twenty seven, second week in
a row. You got to give a ton of credit
to Brigham Young. I thought it was a terrible spot
for him. Iowa State was rested at home, Brigham Young

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coming off an emotional close win against a rival the
week before, and they got to travel maybe one of
their longest road trips they could take. I guess West
Virginia's further away. And they found a way to win
the game. And they trailed early and found a way
to win the game. Iowa State had nearly five hundred
yards and only twenty seven points. And I'm gonna tell
you how that happened. Two turnovers, two more turnovers on downs.

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And the thing about it is, if you told me
some team was gonna have four total turnovers, I would
have guessed it wasn't the rested home team. I would
have guessed it was the road weary, emotional down spot
team coming in to Jack Trice Stadium. It wasn't. And
now guess what Brigham Young gets to do. They get

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to rest and then they get to go to Lubbock,
Texas next weekend weekend after next huge weekend coming up.
Because Texas Tech is still favored to win this conference,
the next closest favorite is Brigham Young and they play
each other in a couple of weeks. Game on in
the Big twelve, Georgia Tech took care of Syracuse forty

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one to sixteen. Haines King American Hero Haines King twenty
five to thirty one, three hundred and four yards, had
another ninety one on the ground, five total touchdowns. That
guy would be squarely in the mix for the Heisman
if it were up to me. And instead he is
two four six. He's eighth, I think, or tied for seventh,

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whatever that is in the odds. Here's what I do know.
You want to talk about money for a second. In
the preseason, we did some over under win totals. You
remember what our favorite one was Georgia Tech over seven
and a half. Well, friends, it is not November. It
is not even Halloween yet, although they won't play another

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game before Halloween. But still it sounds better. Pre Halloween
win total already hitting here. That feels good. They're now
favorite to win the ACC. Are you listening everyone? Georgia
Tech is the favorite to win the ACC now, I
will tell you part of that is because Miami is
not Madam, Like Miami is not Madam, Matt. I'm trying
to say something and I couldn't say it the first time,

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so I tried to rewrack the balls, and I tried
to say it again, and it didn't work the second time.
I'm gonna try a third time. Miami is not mathematically
guaranteed to make the ACC Championship game, and the schedule
over there is so weird because I don't know how
this happens. Like in the SEC, they play eight conference

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games and I feel like everyone plays everyone. The ACC
plays the same amount, and I feel like no one
plays anyone anyway. Georgia Tech long story short, favorite to
win the league right now. However, if they play Miami,
Miami will be favored, if that makes any sense. Memphis,
What a day, m Memphis yesterday, massive day for G five, Josh.

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Of course, you gotta understand how big this was for me.
Memphis trailed most of the day. They trailed by seventeen.
Well actually they trailed thirty one to seventeen. Yeah, I
did the math right. They scored the final seventeen and
the G five odds right now. Fascinating, fascinating landscape. Look
at this, So Tulane and now, if we're looking at
the odds to make the playoff, you know, the G

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five gets a team in at least one guarantee team
in right now. According to FanDuel, Tulane is the favorite
to grab that spot. USF is second, North Texas is third,
Memphis is fourth, and Navy is fifth. Tulane plays Memphis
next week. I think it's a Friday night game too.

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So Navy and North Texas play this weekend in Denton.
So there's a lot going on. Man like this, James
Madison sneaking around to the school. Not the guy. It
would be a big story if it were the latter.
So yeah, G five, Josh got my hands full right now,
got my hands full, as does the AP as it

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turns out, appreciate you guys watching someone super chat us Jesse. Yeah,
someone gave us nine to ninety nine. Split that amongst
the staff. So the AP pole has dropped and I
didn't have a ton of bones to pick last week,
but I got a couple this week. I just don't,

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you know what, never mind, we'll just go into it.
Memphis is number twenty five, Utah's twenty four, USC twenty three,
Houston twenty two. None of those were ranked last week. Now,
I don't have a problem with teams that weren't ranked
jumping up into this thing. I do question how USC
went from unranked ranked despite the fact that they didn't play.
I understand the principle. The principle is if teams ahead

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of you drop and everyone just bumps up a wrong
or two. But here's the question. Why would Iowa not
jump into this thing? Why would Washington not jump into
the thing? You know, teams that played yesterday and dominated yesterday.
Did you see what Iowa did to Minnesota with the
Floyd on the line, Floyd of Rosedale on the line,

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A splattering, a splattering with the Floyida Rosedale on the line.
And that's not good enough to rank Iowa. You know
why they didn't watch The voters didn't watch the game.
How they gonna rank you if they didn't watch the game.
And Washington like Washington so far this year had the
unenviable task of playing Ohio State, so that's a loss

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on their resume, and then they've played Michigan and that's
a loss on their resume. I see both of those
teams firmly entrenched here in the ranking. They really handled
Illinois yesterday. They're not ranked either, And I just I
would pay a lot of money to know how many
Washington games outside the Ohio State game or Iowa games

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period that the AP voters have watched, because they have
no business being unranked, and yet they are, and Southern
Couge is sitting there, and for that matter, Houston's sitting
there now. Houston had a great win yesterday against Arizona State,
but they lost to Texas Tech pretty handedly at home.
Their strength of schedule I think is inferior to both
Washington and Iowa. So anyway, I think both those teams

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should be ranked. Michigan's at twenty one, by the way,
Texas at twenty. Texas is at twenty, so maybe that's
all there is to say about that. I think sometimes
you get credit for two things. The first, you've got
the Longhorn logo. The second is you're a two loss
SEC team, so you're just going to get a lot

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of benefit of doubt. I would have no problem if
Texas was unranked. I would have no problem with that.
So if anyone wants to yell some of these SEC
teams are overrated in most cases, I don't agree with that.
You could yell at about Texas and I wouldn't fight
you on it. I'm okay with that. Missouri's nineteen. They're

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down four spots. Quarterback is out probably for the year,
but you're not supposed to project here, so I think
they're properly rated or ranked right now. But with the
understanding that there's further I mean, they're about to play
A and M in two weeks, like they're probably not
winning that game, so there's further that Missouri can fall.
So I don't know that they'll be in this much longer.

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Like Oklahoma. Same thing. Oklahoma's eighteenth. I don't think they're
propped up because they've played tough schedules, especially Oklahoma. However,
they're probably not done losing either. So I think those
are two that are ranked right now, and I agree
with it, But if I'm projecting, I don't know that
either of them will finish st. Cincinnati's at seventeen and

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having a really solid year. Louisville is at sixteen. They're
up three spots, having a really solid year, all right.
Virginia is at fifteen. Now, this is where it starts
to get interesting, because this is where we're so far
in the schedule now that it's not that you've played
three or four teams. You've played six or seven teams
in some cases, and so we're starting to get a
really solid resume, and we're starting to really ask the

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question who have they played? And this there's this debate
that forms, all right, how much should you be rewarded
for just pure record? How much should you be rewarded
for strength of record versus strength of schedule? What's the
difference between the two. Our buddies at College Football Nerds
put out a really good thread the other day that

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I happen to agree with about how strength of record
sometimes is a very overused and misunderstood metric, and strength
of schedule is also sometimes misunderstood, but I think it's
more understood. So they're at fifteen right now, Tennessee at fourteen.
Let me ask you a question. I'm going to finish here,
Texas tex at thirteen, Notre Dame twelve, bring him young eleven.

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So let's talk about Tennessee and Notre Dame here cause
I kind of have the same question about both of them.
All Right, what are we rewarding? What are we really
voting on here? We could be voting on potential, which
you're not supposed to be voting on, or we could
be voting on how many games you've won, or we
could be voting on how strong the teams were that

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beat you. So Notre Dame, as we know, has lost
to Texas A and m Close. They lost to Miami close.
Those are two top ten teams. Tennessee lost to the
number four team and the number five team, and that's
full stop there. So if those are your only losses
and you've won every other game, I fully get you
know what your resume is and how it warrants you

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being number twelve or number fourteen. My question is what
are your best wins?

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
At what point do we stop crediting you solely for
losing close to really good teams and start asking Okay,
but also have you beaten anybody worthwhile? And Tennessee just
flat out hasn't Tennessee's beating Syracuse, Mississippi State, Arkansas, Kentucky,
but they're getting credit for playing Bama kind of close

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a seventeen point game and playing Georgia really close. Tennessee
may be a little overrated here. To be honest with you,
they should be ranked. I'm not saying they shouldn't be ranked.
That's where people. That's where you lose people. If you're
doing the whole anti SEC thing and you said, look
at Tennessee, Yeah, I'm looking at them. What they shouldn't
even be ranked? No, buddy, No, they've got better resumes

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than like number twenty two. If you're saying they shouldn't
be fourteenth, they should be nineteenth, that's where I'll listen
to you. You gotta have some nuance to your argument.
You can't just cut your chest open with a machete
and you rail against the SEC nonsensically. But I would
listen to you if you said Tennessee was a little
overrated here. Notre Dame at twelve. Same thing. Now they've

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got the u C win so US. He's ranked right
now according to the AP. At the very least, they're
a top thirty team. That's better than any win Tennessee has,
so I get it a little bit more with Notre Dame. Frankly,
I think they're still projecting a little bit with both
of them. Brigham Young in Miami, you're tied for tenth.
We don't even have a function in our graphic to

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create a tie, because why would we have a tie,
But we do so they're tied for tenth. Vandy's ninth
than Georgia Tech is eighth. Right now, it's getting a
little later in the season. We've had years in the
past where you look in the early part of the
season and oh, how cute, how cute it's now it's

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still September, but Vandy's ranked. Let's pat Georgia Tech on
the head. They're ranked. The next time they play football games,
it'll be November. It's not early anymore. And there's this
thing in my mind that I keep picturing. It involves
both of these teams. Let's just say they keep winning.

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Each one of them can afford to drop a game, really,
but let's say they keep winning. Do you realize what
it would be like during rivalry weekend where over the
past few years Texas, Texas A and m was big.
Last year Ohio State, Michigan's Big Iron Bowl's been kind
of hit or miss. Can you imagine if Vandy Tennessee

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has playoff implications? Furthermore, follow me here. You know, Georgia
and Georgia Tech play that Friday, and sadly, Georgia Tech
moved the game to Mercedes Benz Stadium for a paycheck.
I get it, but I don't like it. But both
of those games could have huge implications. Not to mention,

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you could have A and M and Texas that day
and you're still going to have Ohio State Michigan. Who Yeah,
So lots still look forward to Ole Missus seven yep,
Oregon six yep, and then five to one. I don't
even think they changed Georgia, Bama, A and m Indiana
Ohio State. So there's a gap in the Big ten
right now, and there's not in the SEC. The Big

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Ten has the number one, two, and six teams, and
then there's a gap and the next closest one is
number twenty one and twenty three. So there's a big
gap forming there, which is going to be good for
the Big Ten because it really clears up the picture.
Now they may only get three teams in the playoff
for all I know, but they're going to be three
really really bona fide national championship contending teams, whereas in

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the SEC, it's still a little early to know this
because we haven't seen what form teams are going to
be in come December. It may be the SEC has
no team that's as good as Ohio State, or they
may have like three teams that can compete with them.
I don't know that's what God created November and December for.
But look at the state of the SEC. They got

(01:22:53):
number they got five of the top nine. It's quicker
for me to just say that they got five of
the top nine and they got fourteen, eighteen, nineteen, and
twenty as well. So I know what a lot of
people say to that, and I think you're wrong. A
lot of people say, oh, of course, a lot of
their teams are ranked well. They're ranked so that they
can prop up themselves by talking about how many ranked

(01:23:15):
wins they have. That only fits if you can point
to me the SEC teams that don't deserve to be ranked.
Don't tell me they're overrated, because whether Tennessee's fourteen or eighteen,
that still be ranked. So that was going to be
a ranked win for Alabama. I want you to tell
me which teams shouldn't be ranked, and so if it's Missouri,

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for example, you got to give me, since they're nineteen,
you got to give me six resumes that are in
a blind comparison better than theirs. And I don't think
you can. I don't think you can do that with
a Vandy at number nine or Bam at number four,
you can say they're overrated. I just told you now
Texas is one of them where I think you can

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make the argument Texas shouldn't be ranked. Well, GA's one.
What about the rest? And don't be bending the logic
to fit your argument. You got to use the same
criteria when you're comparing all of them. The SEC, they've
got that many teams ranked right now, and they should
have that many teams ranked right now. The trade off

(01:24:17):
to that is you could cannibalize yourself. The other trade
off to that is the SEC may have zero elite teams.
They may have zero A List teams. The Big Ten
can have three for all I know. So a couple
of things can be true the Big Ten. Again, I'm
using very soft language because we don't know, the Big

(01:24:38):
Ten may have the two best teams in the country.
The Big Ten may have the three best teams in
the country. The SEC may have the fourth, fifth, seventh, ninth, eleventh,
and thirteenth best teams in the country. So it could
be overall a deeper conference, but without the tallest trees
like the Big Ten has. I'm very interested to see
how that plays out, because again, I don't want to
back myself into a corner because it's not November yet.

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Now, these are not sure things that I hold in
my hand somehow. Yesterday I felt like it was a
terrible day for the Ramanudle Express. I felt like that,
But it wasn't. We won yesterday. It's just that we
lost a lot of early games and won a lot
of late games. Now, we finished sixth, and that's nothing
to write home about, but it felt like we were

(01:27:03):
about four and eight or something like that, so we
weren't so soft soft pad on the back to us.
I'm starting with two Big ten games for this week slate.
We were taking Illinois minus twelve and a half. We
bet him yesterday. They failed us miserably, so we're gonna
bet him again. Illinois minus twelve and a half against
Rutgers at home, and we're gonna bet Purdue plus twenty

(01:27:26):
one and a half at Michigan. Got a couple other
Big ten games I'm looking at. We may just bet
the whole Big ten this week. I mean when has
that ever gone wrong for anyone. So I know a
lot of you are tuned in because you found out
that Brian Kelly got fired. So again, I want to
just kind of wrap the show up. Brian Kelly has
been fired at LSU. Coaching search underway immediately. I would

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strongly encourage you guys follow Pete Nakos. He'll have the
latest on hot boards, He'll have the latest on buyouts,
He'll have the latest on all that stuff. And I
was on the phone with him pretty frequently throughout the day.
A big hat tip to him being proactive keeping us
in the loop. And it's been a crazy day down
in Baton Rouge. If you're just now kind of realizing, oh,

(01:28:11):
this is about to be crazy, yes, yes it is.
We warned you a month ago this coaching carousel cycle
was going to be unlike anything you've ever seen. Since then,
a bunch of jobs have opened up, I'd say the
biggest so far just opened up at LSU. And make
sure you're subscribed to the channel. That's all I can
tell you. It's not over, it's just getting started, So

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we do is college football, all year long, and this
next couple of months especially, I would say, will probably
be the craziest couple of months we've ever had on
the show. Fortunately, we don't have to turn our attention
to anything else. This is all we do. So if
you missed, if you missed us talking about Brian Kelly,

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you just go right back in the show. It's at
the beginning. We covered it for like twenty twenty five minutes,
and we'll probably be talking about LSU a fair amount
Tuesday night. I would ventured to think, all right, I
gotta go eat in the meantime. So for producer Jesse,
Director Bradley, I'm Josh Bate, take care, have a great
rest of your evening, and God bless.

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