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June 4, 2025 49 mins

This week on the Journey to Launch podcast, I’m joined by Pat Flynn—digital entrepreneur, founder of Smart Passive Income, creator of Deep Pocket Monster, and author of Lean Learning: How to Achieve More by Learning Less. Pat shares how getting laid off from his dream job led to building a thriving online business, and how he’s stayed grounded while growing multiple ventures across podcasting, YouTube, community building, and even Pokémon.

We explore the benefits of learning less, how to manage growth without losing yourself, what it takes to trust others in your business, and how to keep things fun while building a life aligned with your values.

In this episode we discuss:

  • How a $19.99 PDF launched Pat’s entrepreneurial career
  • The mindset shift that helped him avoid burnout and delegate effectively
  • Strategies to decide if an idea should be monetized or kept as a hobby
  • What it means to build a business that truly fits the season of life you’re in
  • Why reflection, experimentation, and service are key to sustainable growth

Check out the video to this episode on YouTube here: youtube.com/journeytolaunch


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