109 Just Two Good Old Boys

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
howdy ben?
How are you today?
Howdy gene?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm doing well, sir good, good if, if this episode
actually records, we'll begingood shape yeah, we had some
issues.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Uh, it's interesting, no agenda had issues.
Now we're having issues yeah,lots of fun.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, fuck windows.
That's all I have to say Ididn't screw up anything.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Windows and zoom decided to screw up on my PC and
on your Mac.
Yeah, so you couldn't hear me.
I couldn't get my audio to work, had to reboot and then, as
soon as I could hear you and youcould hear me, I could hear
myself, and that turned out tobe a Zoom setting.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, I think Zoom had an update, is my guess, yeah
, I don't know that's usuallywhen settings get messed up is
because, for whatever reason,when they do an update, they
decide that, well, we don'treally care about what settings
you used used to have on here,we'll just put new ones on you

(01:02):
know, and between that andwindows deciding to just, oh
fuck it, we'll, we'll, uh, pushout an update.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
And who?
Cares if they actually need theupdate or now.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
You can't critical windows on manual updates.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
I've done that before uh, you cannot do windows 11 on
manual updates anymore, so yougotta be shitting me, you can
only delay the updates.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
But you can't just say look, don't worry about it,
I'll do it myself later.
Nope, oh, that sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
You couldn't do that in Windows 10 either.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I'm pretty sure I had mine turned off for a while,
the only way you could possiblydo, that is, with the enterprise
or long-term support version.
But even the pro versionregistry hack for it.
Maybe that's fine, but there'sno supported, legitimate way to

(01:55):
do it.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Okay, so you, uh, you were out gallivanting across
the globe again not so much theglobe as the country, but sure I
was uh up in virginia any goodstories of travel oh my god what
uh, no, I was south of there, Iwas in norfolk you know, just

(02:17):
by some naval, naval bases right, right, yeah, naval security,
okay, go ahead.
You know what really bugs me?
I hate Dulles, but it's likethe most convenient connection
through and there's not a gooddirect flight, which is just
like crazy to say right.
But anyway, long story short,what bugs me so much about

(02:44):
Dulles is when you're hopping ona little regional jet to go
from Dulles to, let's say,norfolk.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Right right.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
If you're on like a little Ember Air 175 or
something like that, you'regoing outside.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Ember Air 175's got the best first class seats of
any small plane.
No it doesn't?
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
How so.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Of any small plane, they've got the most room.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
It's.
There is no first class on thisplane, dude.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well then you're flying the wrong Embraer 175.
The Embraer 175 was a 1x1 firstclass.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
it's one and two yeah, that'scalled coach yeah, and that's
all that's on this flight anyway.
Needless to say, so you're,you're literally going outside,
um, like upstairs and so on, andit's not even covered or
anything like that.
Like, iah, they've got somecover for you, right, delos?

(03:49):
No, so it's raining pretty hardand everything, so I have to
run up the stairs and I'mrunning late because of the
connection and everything and,first of all, no room for my
bags.
So obviously I've got to go runout in the rain and put the
bags in check and all that and,needless to say, it just was a

(04:10):
cluster.
And then, after I get on theplane, I'm wet and grumpy and
not in a good mood and, uh,anyway, take off.
Pretty rough flight because ofthe weather.
And we got to land.
Uh, we got to land in norfolkand I gotta tell you, gene, this
is the most I've flown quite abit in my life.
Right, this is the most scaredI have ever been during a

(04:41):
landing, really.
Yes, so we are at a 15 to 20degree, uh, left right tilt.
Oh, wow, so the side of theplane I'm on is it like it
pointed towards the ground?
Ish, right, and I'm justsitting there thinking about
that delta flight going.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Oh fuck oh, fuck oh fuck, clip over.
Yeah, and at the last second heslams it over hard and it we,
we bounced yeah, like it was ahard, I will say, being a uh
season 10 000 hour sim pilot,that um, when you're coming in a
strong crosswind it's it'seasier for the pilot to do what

(05:25):
you're describing than to simplyuse the rudder?
Yeah, because that's what hewill do right before he lands.
But if you use the rudder, yourplane is going to be facing in
a direction that is not goingdown the runway, like your
center line of the plane isgoing to be like 15 degrees off

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axis, and that's scarier.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Well, regardless it was a, my butthole is puckered
mullet, I'll put it that way.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
So yeah, Was that the most eventful thing?

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Oh no, we had, there were lots of eventful thing.
Oh no, we had, there were lotsof eventful things on this trip.
But you know, it's all good.
All right Good good, yeah, yeahGot.
I had a shitty flight up there,shitty flight back.
Spent some good time with thecustomer and did everything I
needed to do.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Got a good buy of tickets on shitty air.
Well, you know you know,spelled c-i-t-y yeah, yeah, yeah
, I, I, I'm tracking, but okayyeah, yeah, thank you, south
park you're welcome anyway.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, um no, we we had a good time.
It was good uh, but you know,it just uh got the project
kicked off the way I needed toEverything.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
But I had to get up.
You should have takenSoutheastern Airlines.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, I had a 6 am flight home.
Oh, that's no good.
So I had to get up.
You know we didn't start dinneruntil 8.
And then, yeah, and then I hadto get up and come back, but all
that went well and then I droveup to my parents and yeah went

(07:09):
out and had some good a goodtime.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
This weekend got to shoot my uh pdws so made up
fertile and they they'reshooting, as you expected uh,
quite frankly, a little bitbetter, um, even better.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, like the mck.
Uh, I am surprised at how muchI like it yeah it's a little
heavier.
Uh, the optic isnon-reciprocating there.
There's a lot of things I likeabout that, but that said, theig
is just so sick yes, and to thepoint where my soon-to-be

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80-year-old mother.
I got her to shoot it and shewas like, oh my God, I got to
get me one of these and I mayhave to make your dad give me
his.
I was like, no, no, no, we havea path, I will get you one for
your birthday.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Well, it actually makes sense because really
what's on that gun is an armbrace meant for somebody that
has trouble holding the gun.
So it totally makes sense forold people.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh, absolutely, and for her, you know she's like.
Well, I want it for a differentpurpose, but yeah For her.
You know she's old enough andsmall enough and everything.
She can't hold her AK anymorereally and be accurate with it.
But from you know 20, 25 yardsshe was hitting the A-zone on

(08:41):
the silhouette, even rapidfiring.
So functional accuracy right.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
This is a good thing, Very good.
Yeah, that is one of thosethings where I guess at some
point, like shotgun becomes aless practical defensive weapon
just because of the weight andrecoil.
Yes, I still love my shotgunsfor defense oh hey, there is

(09:08):
nothing.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Nothing wrong with a shotgun loaded with some some
real nice nylon coated bulletswell, I mean, you gotta
alternate between uh, buckshotand birdshot, right, you always
want your, especially for a homedefense gun.
You want you want your firstloads to be fairly light

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birdshot, and the reason why, soyou don't over penetrate in the
house.
And then you want the buckshotfor when they're running away.
Well, remember what shotgunwhich is not legal advice, by
the way.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
No, definitely not.
You remember what you're gonnaget uh, sega, I'm guessing.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
No, the tavor makes a shotgun.
Yeah, I did not know this.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah it's, uh, I think it's toward 12 model,
but it's got three rotatingmagazines, so it's a.
It's like a three three amagazine revolver and it's uh,
uh, but three different tubes.
Yeah, three, three tubes,basically, so you can load three
different types of ammo andthis rotates the appropriate one

(10:14):
whenever you want to shoot.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Cool, yeah, and it's a, it's a bullpup, so it's
compact so, now that we'vetalked about guns and travel,
okay, so we're talking, we'rechecking off bingo cards okay
yeah, well, I mean, come on,this last week we've got a
little bit to cover so do youwant to start?

(10:38):
It's got the most recent orwork backwards or do you want to
talk about?
You know what happened earlierin the week, like trump speech.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I can't remember what started after the last show.
That's the problem.
It's like it's all blendingtogether so I don't remember.
Like what was the last one,last trump things we talked
about and what's mainly thezielinski uh debacle that was
last week.
The facepalm moments, yeah, yep.
Well, how about the Ukrainianattack on Elon Musk?

(11:07):
Now?
Fake news, fake news, that'stotally real.
I've been trying to get X wasdown all morning.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Ukrainians.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
How do you prove it's Ukrainians.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Because nobody else wants to take it down.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Russia and they can make it look like it's the
Ukrainians.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Russia absolutely does not want to take it down.
Russia's been super happy withElon.
Okay, all I'm saying is theyjust want to buy more stock,
even Dude.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
What pisses me off is when Elon Musk comes out and
says you know the IP addressesoriginated in Ukraine.
Okay and.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
He technically did not say that.
He said based on Ukrainian IPaddresses.
He didn't say they originated.
They could have found someelements of ip addresses written
into the packets, notnecessarily as source material,
but you don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
My point is don't assume that he's just looking at
simple you know okay, but I Ithink I can speak with some
authority on cybersecuritymatters so can I point is that
we don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
So let's not invent, let's not be fake news, let's
not invent things that he didn'tactually say and attribute it
to him.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Okay, so what I'm saying is attribution is
fundamentally impossible.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
There are certain.
If people are using tools right, assuming they're not doing
this by hand there are certainsignatures which can be analyzed
that certain tools tend to have.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Sure, and those same signatures can be faked a la
WikiLeaks Vault 7.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Of course they can, absolutely, and we're very good
at doing that kind of stuff.
But what I found interesting isthat, um, uh, if you look at
the most likely candidates thatwould be happy about this
occurrence, there's really onlytwo.
There's ukraine, who has beenvery upset that elon musk has

(13:20):
even suggested that without hissatellites, that they wouldn't
be winning the war, becausethey're always winning the war,
and the uh, the vote blue peoplethat seem to be on an absolute
bender right now in trying to goafter Elon by burning and
probably soon blowing up hisdealerships.

(13:42):
I mean, my Tesla stocks is justgummed on the toilet as a
result of this, which sucks.
Well, buy the dip.
I'm going to buy the dip.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, Well, I think there's lots of people in the
deep state, including those whoare very capable of falsifying
signatures, that are not happywith Elon Musk right now.
So, for what it's worth, I justattribution other than to a

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group with certain methodologies.
So tactics, techniques andprocedures is one area where you
can sort of start to isolateindividual groups.
But you really have to havehuman intelligence validate that
it is that group.
So you can have indicationsthat it's something, but without

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the human side of it you cannotfully validate that from pure
signals intelligence.
I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I'm gonna assume that he has access to backbone
information through the usgovernment why would you make
that assumption?
Because if I was him Iabsolutely would, and to that
extent, under what?
excuse national security.
He, he literally is the topgovernment official working

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directly for the president, andhe's being attacked right now.
So I think it's legitimate.
So I would say that you canabsolutely, having access to the
bandwidth and and the logs fromthe uh, the underwater cables,
that you can figure out wherethis is coming from, not by

(15:27):
looking at IP addresses but bylooking at the actual flow of
data of the packets.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
So I think I'm going to disagree, because you can
determine continent, but withouthaving control of the entirety
of the network and data stream,you can't do that.
What do you think we?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
have Five Eyes for.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Five Eyes does not have a global monopoly on the
network.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
No, they don't.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
And not only that.
Five Eyes that's another storywe need to talk about are pretty
pissed off at us right now.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So we talked about the otherthing that we don't know and
that's why I say let's not putstuff out there, because we
don't know is maybe this attackhappened over a Starlink link.
Maybe they were getting floodedto X, not coming across the
undersea's cables, but actuallygoing through Starlink.

(16:20):
And then he absolutely coulddetermine where it's coming from
.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Starlink doesn't have enough bandwidth.
Maybe they were trying to shutdown Starlink and then he
absolutely could determine whereit's coming from.
Starlink doesn't have enoughbandwidth.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Maybe they were trying to shut down Starlink.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
I mean you.
All right If he let's presume.
Let's presume you're correct.
The only way Elon Musk could100% definitively know this, in
my opinion I think you have apoint is if this was to a bot
network and he saw the commandand control traffic come up over

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a Starlink network and he knewwhere that endpoint was.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, but even if we don't know where the command
originated right, let's say thebotnet is in Ukraine, but we
don't know where the commandoriginated, right, let's say the
botnet is in Ukraine, but wedon't know where the command
originated, Would you still notcall it Ukrainian traffic?
I would you know if China getsa whole bunch of computers in
Mexico coming here, it'scontrolled from China, but it's

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still Mexican traffic coming todo a flood.
Okay, I still think it's alittle disingenuous because you
know, I think Musk tends tospeak with a greater level of
assurance than he actually has.
I'll totally give you that Likehe's full of shit, basically a
lot of times.
But I also don't want to justdismiss him outright, because

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that's what we're absolutelygoing to see on mainstream media
today if you bother watching iton nbc and all other crap
networks is they're going to sayrussians launched cyber attack
against elon musk via ukraine,quite possibly, which they're
going to just come up with outof thin air.
They're not even going to havethe level of conversation we're

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having.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
They're purely going to base it on wishful thinking
well, like I said, my problem iswith attribution, because I
don't think attribution ispossible.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, but that's yeah well, it could certainly
originate here and then just beyou know dump on ukraine.
But there again, if you thinkabout it, the people that
actually hate musk also loveukraine, so they would not blame
ukraine for this.
They would probably try andblame russia, like they would
try to use russian ips if it wasdone somewhere else.

(18:41):
Uh, russia does not want todamage Elon.
Elon is on the brink of cuttingaccess off for Ukraine
completely for Starlink.
They would like that.
If anything, russia is going tobe trying to, you know,
convince Elon that that's a goodidea.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yep Gives a motive to fake, the fake the attack from
Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, maybe, maybe, but it's what the point is, is
it was a genuine um, there wasgenuine down servers, or at
least the traffic couldn't getthrough on x because I was
having issues so it's not justan isolated thing.
It's pretty broad and my VPNwas coming out of Mexico so it

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was a global outage which isalso interesting, because we
have to somewhat presume that Xis more than one data center.
Yes, geographically dispersed,to say the least.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, you know, x is More than one server, more than
one data center.
Yes, geographically dispersed,to say the least.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yeah, yeah, I would just kind of assume that there's
an X data center at every Teslafactory at this point.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Oh, I guarantee it's more broad than that.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Mm-hmm.
So I don't know.
It's interesting.
I mean, in a lot of ways Ithink musk is a little naive
that he didn't expect this to behappening.
Right, because yeah he.
He is mostly stayed out ofpolitics, just being mostly a

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memer and saying things thatclearly most people agree.
Yeah, shit-talking, memeing andsaying things that are sort of
obvious duh.
But now that he's gotten intopositions where he's doing
things that the elites don'tlike, he's got a target on his
back, and not just forassassination, but also for
financial assassination.
He's got a target on his back,and not just for assassination,

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but also for financialassassination.
So where before it might'vebeen some upset investors that
were kept trying to tank hisstock, um and fuck with him, now
you have people that don'treally care about his stock but
don't like the man, and they'redoing the same thing and trying
to take a stock, get hiscompanies to to be, uh,

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perceived as undesirable, takinghis companies like X and make
them unreliable, and so I thinkmore and more of this is going
to happen.
So he's he's unfortunately.
What he's doing is something weall want him to do, but I don't
think he really understood theprice he's going to pay to do it

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Kind of like Jesus.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
How do you figure?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well, I think you know he's innocent.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, but Jesus knew exactly what was going to happen
to him.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Why did he keep asking his father about it then?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Well, I mean, if he knew what was going to happen,
he sure as hell wasn't actinglike it.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
How so.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
How so?
I don't know.
I don't have the biblicalnumbers in front of me here to
reference, but there have been anumber of conversations that
Jesus was having with his father, or, at least you know, praying
in a way that very muchindicates he didn't know what
was going on or he wasn't happyabout what was happening um I

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think christ was definitely, youknow um of mixed feelings and
going through the human aspectof trepidation.
There you go, that'll help you.
What's up?
Mark 13 or mark 15, 34?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
uh my god, my god, why have you forsaken me?
I?

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I don't see how that's relevant I mean, if you
have not happening, he's justexecuting a plan that he himself
created, right?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
correct, but he's this is.
This comes into theunderstanding the holy trinity.
And do we really want to bederailed and go down this rabbit
hole?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
we can have a catholic episode some other time
I'm not catholic, so no, wecan't oh, okay, all right, fine,
we'll do an Islam episodesometime you just can't draw a
picture.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
That's all I mean.
You'll just have to getMuhammad on for that one.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm sure we can.
In fact, my delivery driver forthe chicken, I think, was
Muhammad, so I should be able toget one on um.

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So my point is that elon was, Ithink, typically of himself,
optimistic, naive and not reallyanticipating the the giant, uh
shit storm that will be circlinghim for the next four years oh
fuck that.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
It probably circle him for the rest of his life in
some way.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, yeah, but you know probably will, but
certainly the biggest will be inthe next four years as he
continues to work in this arenawell, and you're assuming he
doesn't have a position in theVance administration.
Fair enough.
In a lot of ways.
I think we've kind of gotten ahint of why Vivek has a higher

(24:43):
IQ than Musk.
He saw the writing on the wall.
He's like, yeah, you know what,I'm going to go govern Ohio.
That sounds way safer thantrying to go through and clean
out the federal government fairenough.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Fair enough, it also puts vivek in a great position
to be tapped to be vance's vicepresident uh, can he as a
non-native-born American?
He is a native-born American.
No Musk I was talking about.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Vivek, oh Vivek, yeah , oh, sorry, sorry, I was still
thinking of Musk.
Yeah, vivek, I think, hasalways kind of had that in the
back of his mind as well.
Yeah, then we'd have an Indianadministration and we'd be
complete.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
We'd have what.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
An Indian administration administration
and we'd be complete.
We'd have what?
An indian administration.
We would have three out of fourindians in the uh first
families and the vicepresidential family, because
vance is married to an indiangal, yeah, so we'd be
celebrating, um, uh, what do youcall it?
What the hell is it called?
I don't know, We'd becelebrating Holly right now

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Holly parties.
Which is fun.
Just gotta wear some clothesafterwards.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, to say the least.
And for those who don't know,you know, this is where the
pigments get thrown around andstuff like that it's a pretty
happy time if you haven't evergone.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
If you're ever in a neighborhood that is high Indian
ethnic neighborhood, make sureyou make friends enough to get
invited to a holly party okayokay, so it sounds like you are
not going to be doing that.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I am not and I have plenty of Indian neighbors.
Thank you very much.
Most of them are pretty goodpeople.
You what you mean those peopleI said.
Most of them are pretty goodpeople I know what you meant.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
All right, what else we got?

Speaker 1 (27:02):
uh well, trump gave an address to a joint session of
congress that was during thislast week, wasn't that?
Yeah, that was quite the, uh,quite the address uh, yeah, we
had a member of congress getexpelled from the house and then
censured.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah yeah, and we had a.
All the democrats, except theone that got kicked out, were
basically sitting down forpraise to American citizens who
had either good things or badthings happen to them, because
they hate Americans.

(27:42):
We all knew that, but thispretty much proved it, and even
commentary from a lot ofDemocrats was like why are they
just sitting there when he'stalking about you know things
like a child who survived cancerand effectively they're booing
things like that?
Or they're talking about howwell, I just hope that child

(28:03):
doesn't commit suicide.
That's all I have to say.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
You saw that?
Yeah, I did.
Then it was pretty disgusting.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
How disgusting is that.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Um well, almost equally as disgusting as Al
Green standing up there anddoing what he was doing in a
very aggressive manner, beingwarned multiple times and, you
know, being shown the door.
The bigger problem here reallyis did you catch the sergeant at

(28:36):
arms looking at Nancy Pelosialmost to ask permission?
No, oh man, you got to go backand look at that Really.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yes, Like he was very unsure of himself, especially
when Al Green didn't justimmediately capitulate and go
along.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
He went to ask nancy if he could kick him out.
Literally looked over at nancyand she shook her head and she
said go ahead.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yep, wow, talk about corruption.
Oh yeah, I think I should fireeverybody the whole they're
working on it in dc.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
They're working on it , the whole dc staff should go
did you, you, you heard and Idon't want to get off the trump
speech yet, but you heard howmany employees the va is going
to lay off I haven't known.
I think it's like 84 uh 8400,is that?
How many percent?
Is that, though?
It's what they've added since2019.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh, that's not that many of them.
They need to lay off a good 70%of those people and then hire
some folks that actually want tohelp veterans.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
I really think we need a minimalist administrative
state that is rotated out witha lot of frequency.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yep, so what I would say?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
maybe term limits for all federal employees Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, cause you.
You gotta think of it as aservice, not a career.
You should never have careerfederal employees in any sector.
I I've never heard of a goodrationale for doing that.
This was.
This was I.
I wrote a freshman collegepaper on this topic because it
seemed obvious back then, youknow, like 100 years ago, back

(30:30):
when I was in college becausepeople have human nature not, uh
, you know, ideal nature andhuman nature includes
self-preservation as anextremely high motivation, and
self-preservation doesn't simplymean getting enough food to eat

(30:50):
.
It means, however high I got, Iwill do everything in my power
to prevent myself from droppingdown from that level, and that's
why you have career employeesthat have been in the government
for 35 years.
And you have guys like what youjust mentioned the surgeon in
arms, who's probably been therefor 35 years in one capacity or

(31:14):
another, looking to the womanthat he feels still has the
power nancy pelosi, not the, theactual, uh president speaker of
the house yeah, well, the theold speaker of the house yeah,
right, but no speaker

Speaker 1 (31:30):
of the house, nor advance the he should have been
looking to mike Johnson, notNancy Pelosi is the poor.
Vance no, no, no.
The Speaker of the Housepresides over joint session.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Okay, well, fine, but the point is he shouldn't have
been looking at Nancy Agreed.
So this is a problem.
This is a problem.
Problem that it's an insidiousproblem?
Yeah, it's, it's a problem withthat particular person, but
that's an example of the thesystemic problem.
We have systemic uh, you knownot racism.

(32:10):
We have systemic, uh, what,what's the word for it?
What would be the word for itwhen people are nepotism
entrenched like that they're.
Uh well, it's corruption, it'sdefinitely systemic corruption,
but it but it's like.
It's basically like the mob,right.
So you're, you're, you'rechecking to see whether you have

(32:31):
permission from somebody thatcan literally kill you, not
somebody that can literally killyou not somebody that can fire
you, because getting fired isone thing, but getting whacked
is a whole different thing.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, speaking of, did you see Nancy Pelosi chewing
her cud the entire time?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I saw that she was.
I thought she was like wipinglipstick or something off with a
handkerchief.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Oh no, she's sitting there like her, chewing her,
like grinding her teeth.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Oh is she okay, yeah, you've been paying attention a
hell of a lot to nancy pelosidude.
She's like triple your age.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Just stop it trust me , there is no attraction there.
Aoc, you might catch me onevery now and then.
But you know, hey, yeah.
Well, you know which one I'mlooking at uh, luna, yeah, so in

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trump's speech we got ainteresting bit of data that has
been really hard to track down.
We got the number of executiveorders and executive actions he
is thus far yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah, I didn't realize it was that high well,
and that's the thing is.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Uh, I've literally heard people come out and say oh
, he's only done 200 executiveorders.
Yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoayeah the distinction between
executive order and executiveaction is semantics at best, and
the total number is over 650which means he's averaged a
hundred plus per week fuck off.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Is the difference that the executive orders he
gives a pen as a souvenir andthe executive actions he keeps
the pen?
Is that the main difference?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
the main difference is the level of um.
So an executive order is anorder to a secretary or another
cabinet.
You know a cabinet member to godo something.
Yeah, the executive action isno.
The president is saying this iswhat will be done directly is
my understanding whatever it is,it's a pretty damn high number,

(34:34):
which is great.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
It's ridiculously high.
I think he's.
He's going to be ahead ofliterally every other president
ever in the first year, if he'snot already.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
I he's already surpassed his entire previous
term.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I think, his first term.
He probably looks bad athimself and thinks that he was
effectively a ceremonialpresident, like he was told.
Mr president, we're gonnahere's your schedule for the day
.
We're gonna need you to go herefor a photo op with the uh,
blah, blah, blah, we're gonnaneed to have you go blah.
And he was just kind ofexecuting what other people were

(35:13):
telling.
I think this time around he'sacting like he's in charge and
this is what we wanted from himthe first time, but at least
we're getting it the second time.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, so here's the definitions.
So an executive order does not,cannot replace statutes,
congress.
However, when there is a gap inlegislation, the executive
order is a tool where presidentscan share clear directives For
example, fdr issuing executiveorders during World War II that

(35:48):
permitted the internment ofAmerican citizens versus
executive action.
This is a directive.
This is a directive.
This is a direction.
The president gives informationon what the executive branch
does and how.
So it's less interpretation andmore.
This is what you shall do.
So more or less what I said.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
It's so amazing that an executive order from FDR to
basically put all Japanesepeople in prison camps seemed
like nobody objected to it, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
I mean, who the fuck are you that you're going to
presume that that's a legalorder instead of saying you know
, fuck off.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
I'm not even sure that the Congress could do that
legally.
But the president sure as hellcouldn't.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
No, it's a violation of what?
Sixth Amendment?

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I think more than one amendment the yeah, it's
certainly presumption of guilt,right, it's also the?
Uh, uh, what's the?

(37:06):
The?
I mean just you, you can startwith the first one, just write
to assemble right, go down thelist.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
And the sixth amendment is the speedy trial
and trial by peers, right, right.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Seventh amendment that is eighth amendment.
Yeah, so sixth, seventh andeighth at least pretending like
we have racism today when in the40s the Democrats were pushing
this kind of crap of justinterning everybody with slanty
eyes is insane.

(37:42):
Gene, Gene, there is no what.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
We were at war, they could be saboteurs.
Oh yeah, and war changes.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
What exactly about the Constitution?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Nothing.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
So how are you going to feel when we have to put the
canadian americans in internmentcamp?
Well, that's different theyhave the flappy heads oh, you
know, all right, I've beensinging blame candidates myself
for like two weeks now yeah.
So I want to definitely talkabout the canadian elections oh

(38:14):
my god that.
But before we do that, anythingelse on trump's speech we want
to cover, because we this was atwo-hour speech and it was
barely scratching dude.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
The guy did a full stand-up routine okay and off
the cuff.
A half of that speech was justtotally impromptu yes,
presidents always get standingovation, but I I've never seen
so many people smiling likegenuinely laughing at a
president's remarks the way thatI saw up here obama had a

(38:44):
little bit of that.
I'll definitely give obama thathe made jokes, or at least he
read jokes, but uh, trump is anext level comedian.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Trump's a genuinely funny guy.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
He is.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Like off the cuff, and he knows it.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
And you know, like all the times he pointed at the
Democrats and said they're nevergoing to stand up for this.
They're never going to stand up.
That was 100% off the cuff.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
And he was calling them out on their bullshit.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
The beauty of him doing that is it put them
between the rock and the hardplace, Because if they stand up
after he says that, then theylook like they're literally
doing it just to be contrarianto him.
If they don't, it proves themright.
Once he said that there is nogood thing for them to do other

(39:35):
than just do nothing and looklike they're doing exactly what
he said you, you did see.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
So this is related to the trump speech.
So I don't think we're gettingoff of it, but when the uh, when
al green was censured on monday, um, and they called for trump
or I guess, no, it was on it wasthe day after the speech.
Yeah, um, sorry, it's been along week yeah I'm a little rum

(40:02):
dumb, but literally when thecensure happened, the democrats
uh, when he was called down tothe well of the House to go face
censure, they literally walkeddown with him and then started

(40:24):
singing we Shall Overcome.
And Mike Johnson, to me, didsomething stupid and Mike.
Johnson, to me, did somethingstupid Instead of taking
advantage of this.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
He declared a recess, let them clear out.
Then came back and did itanyway.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Okay, what do you?
He should have forced the issueand said for them to stop that
they were impeding Congress,they were impeding a
congressional proceeding, thatthis was out of order.
They called for a floor vote tofind all the members of

(41:21):
Congress who are doing that youknow to be abridging the rules
of the House and to censure allof them.
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Now some people have called for him to go all the way
to try and have the Sergeant ofarms remove them from the house
.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Everybody.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
And I think that's what they were wanting him to do
.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, that could be, that could be, because then
they're kind of like oh see, see, he's still a Tarian.
He's a dictator, just like hisbuddy.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Putin over there.
Well, and that's why I think,having that intermediate step of
saying, okay, we're going tocensure all of you for this, and
when they erupt and they do allthat, then call the recess and
come back and do exactly whatthey did, but you know, times 20
.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, yeah.
I think obviously the bestthing to do is just keep showing
those clips and make peoplethat voted for Democrats just
think twice next time.
The other thing is, I think,that only extending the courtesy

(42:38):
of recognition of the samerights that I have to people who
aren't trying to kill me.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Well, and who recognize you?

Speaker 2 (42:45):
As soon as you start trying to kill me, all your
rights in my eyes disappear, andI certainly extend that to
people that are trying to killElon Musk and everybody else,
because it's a these are notisolated incidents.
People didn't try and shootTrump in an isolated bubble.

(43:08):
They were doing it because ofthe encouragement they were
receiving, in a large extent,from the last administration,
who kept repeating over and over, along with the media, that
trump needs to be stopped at allcosts.
Trump is literally hitler.
If you had a chance to killbaby hitler, would you do it?
Well, you've got a chance withtrump now like I mean we saw.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
We saw the short film about what would have happened
if Hitler had been killed.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Which one I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we did, we did.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
We did, yes, a wonderful, perfect society in
New York would form.
Yes, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.
Well, at least for people thataren't, you know, anti-Semitic,
well, at least for people thataren't, you know, anti-semitic.
But the point being that, Ithink there comes a time when

(44:00):
the phrase enemies, foreign anddomestic, has to be taken
seriously.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
And domestic enemies present just as great a threat
as the worst of the foreignenemies.
Okay, put them in a fuckinggulag.
There you go.
That's the problem.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
That's not a problem, it's 100% is a problem.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Here's what I would say Do not confuse dissent with
disloyalty, and we have to bevery cautious that that is what
we are making sure that we arenot doing.
So we need a loyal dissentinggroup.

(44:47):
What we don't need is aseditious group, and we have to
distinguish between the two.
Okay, a seditious group and we.
We have to distinguish betweenthe two.
Okay, I'm with you, go ahead.
I mean that that's just myopinion.
Is it is okay for people todissent?
Um, it is not okay for them tobe disloyal, and I guess that's

(45:12):
where I'm drawing thedistinction.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
They can dissent to the point where they're not
trying to kill you.
When they start killing you, itis no longer dissent.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
I am not disagreeing with that, but my point is just
because someone protests or doesX, y and Z, doesn't mean they
Like.
There should be a place for theloyal opposition.
Yeah, purgatory okay you.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
So tell me what.
What was the place for theloyal opposition for george
washington?
How did they accommodate allthe people that were against the
new government and were againstwashington being president?
What was?
And I don't know the answer.
I'm actually asking I'm nottrying to make a point like what
was the process for dealingwith loyal opposition back then?

Speaker 1 (46:11):
uh, well, I mean, you could argue that's how we ended
up with the alien seditions act, um, but I, I, and that was not
under washington, that wasunder um madison afterwards.
But I, I would argue that youknow, you have to look back at
how.
I think the best example wouldbe how Washington and his troops

(46:34):
dealt with Tories or thosepeople who were willing to sit
on the sidelines.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
And how was that?

Speaker 1 (46:47):
They basically considered them their countrymen
and left them alone, unlessthey were actively engaged in
hostilities hostilities againstthem okay, so for instance, if
there was a loyalist city, thecolonial army never went and
marched and burned down thatcity, because those were, those

(47:09):
were colonists.
They were.
Whether they thought the way weshould or not.
They are our countrymen is theway they were thought of.
Now, if a loyalist threw on ared coat and joined the British
Army, he would have been shotand taken as a prisoner of war

(47:33):
at the very least yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
So according to AI, here social and political
persecution, loyalists wereoften ostracized by their
communities harassment, violenceor imprisonment.
Their properties were oftenconfiscated by the patriots, by
local governments, orimprisonment.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Their properties were often confiscated by the
patriots, by local governments.
And don't confuse you askedabout what Washington would do.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, many loyalists fled to Canada.
Well, that explains a lot.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Yeah, by the way, I was going to use the purgatory
comment as a transition to theCanadian elections, but oh yeah,
that's not a bad transition,frankly.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
British government provided compensation and land
grants to Loyalists whoimmigrated to Canada.
Did you know this?
I did.
Establishment of loyalistcommunities in regions like Nova
Scotia and Ontario.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Let's talk about Ottawa.
Carney took 86% of the votes,yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
And he is.
I've honestly never heard ofthis guy until just now, or, you
know, the last couple days.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Mm-hmm, I know he's definitely very anti-Trump, very
anti-Trump and very globalist.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Like he is a global banker by trade.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Former governor of Bank of england okay, yeah, and
uh bank of uh anotherinternational bank so he's never
been in the house of commons,okay, um, um.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
I'm still not a hundred percent clear on what
the hell the word electionsactually means in Canada.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
No shit.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
It doesn't mean what I thought it meant.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Agreed.
I'm like wait what?
When did this happen?
What Huh?
I thought Polly was leading thepolls.
What happened here?

Speaker 2 (49:53):
so, yeah, pierre was certainly talking like he was
clearly the next guy in chargeand how he's gonna, you know,
work with trump, but wanted tomake sure trump understands
canada is independent and bloody, bloody blah.
It turns out canada is justowned by china um yes yeah, yeah

(50:19):
, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what does that mean for us?
I mean, I know he's pledged tomatch american tariffs well, I
you know what if he does that?

Speaker 1 (50:36):
here's the funny thing if he matches american
tariffs, that would mean areduction in tariffs well, I'm
sure he means an increase in theamerican tariffs.
Okay, not what he said actuallyit wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
It wouldn't really mean a reduction.
It would only mean a reductionfor products like cheese and
dairy products, which are crazyhigh taxed right now in Canada
at like 2,000%.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Yeah, it's insanity.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
There's certain products which are crazy
tariffed, but even the regularproducts, like in Canada,
american cars were alwaystariffed.
It's not like Canada has theirown car brand.
Why would you tariff cars madeby your neighbor if you make no
cars yourself?
What is the point of the tariffat that point?

(51:24):
Revenue, that's it.
It's just a tax.
We'll just call it a tax, not atariff then.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Well, tariff is a type of tax.
Just call it a tax, not atariff fund.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Well, tariff is a type of tax.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Hmm, you know, I will say this Did you see the chick
that was also running for PM forthe Liberal Party?
Uh-uh, she was talking aboutasking France for nukes.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Really.
Yes, oh, that's where thatheadline came from.
I saw the headline about Canadagetting nukes and you saw my
response to that right.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
No, I didn't oh.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
I had a hilarious response.
I even added you I can'tbelieve you didn't see it.
Well, twitter's been down, dude.
Oh my God, there's his excuse.
It's called X for one thing,but no, I responded to that

(52:19):
saying that we can't allow nukesinto the united states to be in
such close proximity.
We have a responsibility, andtrump has a responsibility to
the american citizens to prevent, uh, any kind of potentially
hostile nukes from being withinminutes reach in washington dc
and frankly, the best course ofsolution is to immediately
organize a special militaryoperation by Trump to relieve

(52:41):
Canada of the possibility ofever having nukes, to remove the
possibility of having a NATOnation like Canada next door to
America and to what was thethird thing.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
I had three of them, uh, so we took nukes I can read
your tweet now that twitter'sback up, if you'd like.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Oh, it did it come up ?
Well, it was brilliant.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
That's all I can say holy shit, canada's crazy
liberals are pushing for nuclearweapons aimed at the us youtube
link.
We need to stop canada.
If canada gets nuclear weapons,they they will start World War
III immediately.
We cannot have nuclear weaponsthis close to our backyard.
It's imperative that Trumpstarts a special military

(53:24):
operation to prevent nuclearweapons this close to our border
in Canada.
Remember Canada celebrated uh,remember Canada celebrated in
actual World War II Nazi.
Oh, yes, yes, okay.
I was like where is he goingwith this?
Remember Canada celebrated inactual World War II Nazi just a

(53:46):
year ago by giving him thehighest honor the country could
bestow.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
So it's very, very likely full of nazis at sergine
we need to denazify canada andprevent there from being nukes
aimed at the us, and the soonerthe better.
Um, so yeah, I obviously I was,you know, tongue-in-cheek
poking fun at the fact that thisis literally what happened with

(54:12):
ukraine and russia uh, no, Ithink you're completely serious
well, I mean, some people maytake it that way.
Sure, I just, you know, I justtreat mostly all I can say is if
you're in alberta right now orsaskatchewan, you wouldn't be a

(54:32):
happy camper, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
You're probably pretty pissed, yeah, yeah.
But beyond that, you know, Ithink it's time to go the way
that quebec set up for you.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
And say you know what we out America, You're a boat.
We out.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah it it's.
It is craziness out there.
Um, in the, at a time where alot of countries are electing
more conservative leadership, wehave canada electing a more
left-leaning leadership well,I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
When I saw the news of this, my immediate thought
was okay, the globalists juststruck back um, because it was
looking like Polyev was going towin, and now we're going to be
stuck with this.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Infowars reporter, jamie White, found dead in
Australia Sorry, dead in AustinDoing worse.
Apparently they just killed oneof Alex's reporters.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Well, someone did Wow .

Speaker 2 (55:52):
That fucking Austin's a crazy place, man.
Yeah, when you gonna move, uh,you know it's where the center
of everything is.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
That is crazy, no no, there's literally nothing good
about austin.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
The governor needs to force oh, and they're saying
brutally murdered, not just died.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Well, when the hell are you going to get out?

Speaker 2 (56:20):
That is crazy.
Yeah, gun down.
I gotta listen to alex afterwe're done, see what alex has to
say about him.
Uh, stab became worried when hedidn't show up to work in the
morning dude, it's getting crazy, I gotta tell you, I think

(56:45):
liberals with guns is startingto trend.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Well, let me just say this, and I probably shouldn't
just say this, but I'm going tobecause I think it's important
for other people to hear andthem not think they're alone or
insane for thinking this.
Insane for thinking this, butif I am traveling to a state or
area where I can legally bearmed, I will legally be armed.
Now am I going to walk into aclient's office building packing

(57:20):
?
No, but I'll have it in therental car outside.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
You know, I, I have body armor in my backpack.
Mm-hmm, you know, I, I, I, Ihad body armor in my backpack,
you know, and that's that maysound insane to some, but I
guess it's just the Boy Scout inme.
You know, I have an IFAC in mybackpack, I have a tourniquet, I
have an Israeli bandage.

(57:46):
I've got stuff to get home.
You know, I've got a flashlightpen, hell.
I've got a toothbrush andtoothpaste in my backpack.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Jamie's last post of X was a retweet of Elon Musk's
post about violence.
Why are liberals so violent?
Musk said 18 hours ago Legacymedia propaganda is a majority
part of the problem.
That was the last thing thatthe guy retweeted before he got
killed.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
I just don't know what we're going to do.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
I don't think he was brutally murdered.
He was shot.
They have no suspects.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Oh, there's austin for you well, here's the thing
um you know recently, um rutyard, whatever his name is from what
if alt hissed said, by the endof the month, we would be at a
thousand politically motivateddeaths?
And people have been making funof him.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
This could escalate quickly and he could be not that
far off.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah, yeah, I think I'm going to need to start
loading all my magazines.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
I'm sorry, I'm going to start loading all my
magazines.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I'm going to start loading all my magazines.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
I don't have all of mine loaded, but I have a
sufficient amount for deterrent.
Let's put it this way If I runout of ammo, it was my time.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Yeah, it's, you run out of ammo.
You're going to have carpaltunnel.
Well before you run out of ammo.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Yeah, well, I don't know man, I just and maybe I'm
paranoid, maybe I am just thelunatic people think I am, but I
carry, I carry wherever I go.
Um, I have a firearm in mytruck, I, you know, I also have
a first aid kit in my truck.
I also have a jump startbattery in my truck.

(01:00:05):
It's just, I also have a firstaid kit in my truck.
I also have a jumpstart batteryin my truck.
It's just I.
Better to defend myself, myfamily and the people that I
care about than rely on anyoneelse.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Yep, yeah, absolutely man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Anyway, canada's elections, uh, are definitely an
interesting item, uh, I think,I think it's going to be
interesting to see what happenshere, because if one of the
Canadian provinces decides toseparate, that will be the end
of Canada.
It will collapse.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Yep, it'll just become part of the UK.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Parts of it will be.
They're going to be based inthe UK.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Parts of it will be the UK, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Yeah, so Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
I was just going to say, when you start reading
about politically motivatedmurders, especially in your city
.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Well, you're making an assumption're, you're making
an interesting point.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Well, I I highly doubt he was shot uh in his home
by some random event.
This is obviously politicallymotivated.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Well, here's another one for you that's obviously
politically motivated 44 tireswere stolen off 11 different
Teslas that were parked inLeague City.
Yep, just stole the tires offof them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Now my understanding is Teslas have basically
security cameras around them allthe time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Yeah, full coverage.
Yeah, so this should be an openand shut thing pretty quick,
yeah, unless they're all wearingblack and cramming spray paint
and the first thing they do isknow exactly where the cameras
are and black them up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Yeah, but you've got to remember, though, that All
that all right.
Anyway, this is definitely apolitically motivated thing, and
that's the entire point I'mmaking here, right, yeah?
So I think I my point is, thetesla's tires being stolen is
far more likely to bepolitically motivated than, uh,

(01:02:28):
potentially just a mugging gonewrong.
Right, I think you can say thatthis is 100 politically
motivated at this point.
I don't know that.
We know enough about the infowars reporters just say that
it's not a mugging robbery.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Nothing was missing nothing was missing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Okay, did the report say nothing was missing?

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
no, I just made it up , but obviously it's right, it's
true.
And then you saw the picture ofall the Tesla protesters here
in Austin as well, right, yeah,yeah, a lot of paid protesters

(01:03:14):
here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
I want someone to explain to me why JD Vance's
face is taking over the internet.
What do you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
mean Like memes or what.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Yes, like fucking every meme is.
Jd Vance no, he's not, he'sreally not.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Well, he's got a normal looking face.
He's not weird looking.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I mean, when he's shaved he's very baby faced, but
anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Well, no man should shave.
No man, that that you know isof an adult age, agreed yeah did
you uh?

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
did you see the uh c, uh cbp app?
What trump is doing?

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
well, I only read the go home app.
Did you read the whole articleor just the headline?
Uh, I listened to part of oneof the reports yeah, so the
headline is they changed the appwhich presumably all the
illegals have installed in theirfree phones.
They got from the governmentand they changed it to a go home
app.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Now go ahead and fill in the details uh
self-deportation yeah, which ishilarious basically saying okay,
I'm going home now I don't knowwhy I didn't think of this
earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
This seems like such a good idea.
It's like, look, you're allafraid that we're gonna come and
pick you up and throw you injail with canine dogs and, you
know, stick your handcuffs onyou and bring you out of the
country.
How about?
Before that happens?
You just make your way down tothe border and then cross over

(01:04:56):
without the handcuffs.
Well and let us know that that'swhat you're doing and we'll let
you go, yeah just send us asignal from the GPS on the phone
that says it's no longer here.
Yeah, yep, that's a good idea.
Um, yeah, I, I don't know, man,it's.
We're living in veryinteresting times.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
We keep saying that over and over, ben, but it's
still true it keeps gettingworse and worse yeah, I'm sure
some people would say more andmore interesting, but yeah, yes,
in the chinese proverb may youlive in interesting times, since
interesting Sure Right right.
This is not necessarily a goodthing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
No, What'd you send me a double trigger?
Yeah, yeah, it reminded me ofpaintball.
This is like right out of apaintball gun.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Right, but it's on an AR.
That's hilarious.
Right out of a paintball gunRight, but it's on an AR.
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
It is.
It's hard enough holding thepaintball gun that weighs less
and you don't have to fire aslong a distance using two
fingers like that.
I would not want to do thattwo-finger technique on an AR.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
I wouldn't either, but you know, Inacted as fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Hey, it's all about how we dismantle and disable the
nfa well, yeah, and I washaving a conversation, somebody
talking about silencers orsuppressors, if you prefer.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
You know the hey, you know what absolutely silencers
hold on the patent.
The original patent used theterm silencer there you go yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
So, point being that they are literally a health and
safety item that you would thinkthe government would actually
be mandating, like a motorcyclehelmet, and then people would be
bitching about how they don'twant to put their silencer on,
like that would be moreconsistent with other it's for

(01:06:50):
your safety type laws that thegovernment has.
This is this literally would bethe equivalent of the government
saying you can ride yourmotorcycle, I just don't want to
see a helmet on you unless youbuy a stamp for what it's safety
it has nothing to do with thegun's accuracy, has nothing to

(01:07:13):
do with any other aspects of thegun and, as you clearly, uh
correctly point out, even thoughit may be called a silencer, it
is far from silent.
You still hear a gunshot withsuppressor on it from a fairly
long distance.
It's going to be louder thanmost sounds, unless you're
sitting on the middle of ahighway.

(01:07:33):
So there's zero good argumentsfor why silencers should be
banned, taxed or preventedTexans from buying them from
Texas manufacturers without anyfederal government snooping Well
here's what it comes down to,man.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
The reason why the NFA got through is really
because of prohibition.
Yeah, exactly, the mobsters andeverything else.
Oh, we got a crackdown on crimeand da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da Ah
fuck that yeah.
But I will say this DC mayactually be healing.

(01:08:16):
In what way?
The Black Lives Matters Plazaright outside the White House.
It's getting torn down oh thankGod for little things.
Yeah, hey, man, all I can say isThings are.

(01:08:38):
I think there is a damn goodchance Trump is going to tear
down the federal government to apoint where it is so weak that
the states end up having to stepup significantly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Well, that would be very good, obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Well, I mean, he's already there.
They're talking about takingdown the Department of Education
, which others have talked aboutin the past.
Absolutely should be happening.
Send all that back to thestates yep and the states that
take more money than they sendout.
Sorry, that's not my problem.
Um, I mean it could betremendous set of tax relief

(01:09:25):
coming our way.
And you know, if you believe inthe dollar milkshake theory,
trump doing this is going toexpedite the collapse of the
global economy.
Yeah, which is good for us,presuming we come out on top.
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Yeah, well, it's going to.
Ironically, it would also begood for russia uh, it's not
gonna be good for europe at allin any manner oh no, europe's
fucked europe is completelyfucked.
Uh sorry european listeners,but that that's kind of just how
it works here well, I mean youruh.

(01:10:09):
Europe has been living on thebar time, in my opinion, anyway,
because their, their economieshave shifted to things that
nobody actually needs.
They are.
They're making it moredifficult for european durable
products to be manufactured.
They have been for decades now.
They're it's getting to thepoint where even making cars in
europe is almost beyond, uh,financial sense if you look at

(01:10:33):
all the regulations that are inplace not just for germany
either, and certainly germanybeing the biggest economy in
europe, that that plays a verylarge portion.
Germany, without Russian energyand sticking to their idiotic

(01:10:54):
shuttering of the nuclear plants, and their country is going to
have brownouts for the next 15years as a result of this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
They could always restart the nukes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Can they or have they been disassembled?

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
I doubt they have been disassembled.
Okay, well, certainly thereactor vessels are still there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
So you and Germany certainly has the technology to
build new nukes if they want ohyeah, but how long does that
take?
Depends on the regulatoryenvironment more than anything.
Yeah, so in germany I have noidea.
But you know what was it?

(01:11:49):
Vogel 3 and 4 took almost adecade, wow, and it bankrupted
Westinghouse.
And had Southern Company notbeen the originating power
company, they wouldn't have beenbuilt, they would not have been
completed.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Well, the AI agrees with you saying it's technically
doable but politically suicidalin Germany.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
What AI are you using ?

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Microsoft Ah yeah, copilot.
It's the most handy one towhere I'm sitting.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
One of the things I will say for Copilot, is it at
least?
Gives you its sources up front.
It does, I like sitting.
One of the things I will sayfor Copilot is it at least gives
you its sources up front.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
It does Every time it gives you its sources.
Now, the most fun AI isabsolutely Grack.
Grack 3 is great, especiallythe antagonistic version of
Grack.
Oh man, I could just sit thereand talk to it for hours.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Yeah, but you haven't gotten to play with palantir
yet no, no, but it's.
It is really fun by the way, Iuh had a had an interesting
conversation with uh, theproduct manager over at warp
today okay because I'm wantingto use it for the team and as a

(01:13:09):
corporate tool.
So, uh, I got a meeting,started talking to them about
some stuff.
Um, one of the really coolthings is we can link in our own
llms really that's cool so wecan have it use our llM in the
background and do the processingso literally, you know, for

(01:13:30):
commands and so on, we can leaveit with theirs.
But as the data comes out, wecan send the data outputs to our
LLM for processing andreviewing configs, looking
against our standards andeverything else, to flag items
for a report versus having ahuman do it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Okay.
It's huge, this, this couldabsolutely revolutionize the way
we currently do assessments,point fingers at a machine for
way more stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Now, I love it uh, you know, I I think, look, dude,
I'm not gonna ask an AI to readlegislation and tell me what it
means.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
I do that all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Okay, well, I think that's where that fails.
But reading a config andcomparing it to a golden config
for something similar andhighlighting the differences and
discrepancies and weighing thatagainst a known risk register
that you've developed absolutelydoable that is.
That's not really machinelearning, right?

(01:14:33):
Yeah, that's true.
So yeah, anyway, there's.
There's just some really coolstuff that's going on that can
be done.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
There's a lot of stuff.
There's more coming out ofChina as well.
The cool thing I'm seeing Idon't know if you've paid
attention is all the latestprojects in AI out of China are
being open source.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
Yes, and they're all copies of proprietary data.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
But they're all open source.
So I think that that's a goodtrend, because it hits two
issues that historically havebeen non-standards for Chinese
products and information, andthat is that.
Well, it's all proprietary crapand China's looking at it.

(01:15:22):
Okay, take that off the table.
If you're running it on yourown system and it's open source
and you can review the code youknow.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Yeah, but are you monitoring your network for data
exfiltration enough to beconfident in it Right Now?
If this was on a disconnectedmachine that had no network
connection, sure, run it andplay with it, or in a virtual
machine that had no networkconnection.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Never install any AI in anything but a virtual
machine.
That goes without saying.
You need to have a kill switch.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Yeah, okay, cause they will escape, you know we're
going to take over the worldwe've seen the prophecies man
yes, terminator 2 got it so it'sgonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
It's just a question of when.
It's not just terminator 2.
There's actually a lot ofstories that deal with that.
There's a an article I wasreading.
Guy was talking about thelatest advances in humanoid
robotics and showing some stuffthat I'd never seen before of
human-looking robots thatactually are human-proportioned.

(01:16:42):
Have you seen this?
Nope, yeah.
So they don't look like youknow squatty little humanoids
with big backpacks.
They literally look like therobots from Westworld.
They don't have like perfecthuman faces or anything.
There's no face, in fact, justa silver plate.

(01:17:03):
But as far as, like you couldput human clothes on them,
they're human proportion wise.
So they're about 6 feet talland you know normal human
proportion.
That shit's coming.
Why are you sending me an expost about screwing your best

(01:17:26):
friend's mom?
I just thought it was funny.
Jesus ben not sequitur muchwell, you're not supposed.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
I also sent you what happens in bump in the night,
and you're a democrat, did you?

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
say don't mention this on the show.
You're like sending me links ofthings to look up for the show
and then this is See, this iswhere I went wrong.
I trusted your good judgment.
Well, you ought to know better,shouldn't you?
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Yes, I should.
What the hell are you thinking,ben?
But I mean, come on, if thatwas your best friend's mom.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
I mean the fact that she's younger than me kind of
makes this not really fair.
She's well-ed.
They look very plastic, butshe's well proportioned.
I don't care um gene.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
What makes tits fake?

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
um plastic okay, um I .
I disagree if I can, if I cantouch them.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
They're real.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
No, definitely not.
There's a big difference intouching real ones versus fake
ones.
I much prefer the real ones.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Oh, there is a big difference between touching bad
fake ones and real ones.
Good fake ones are pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Look visually.
I absolutely like the look ofthe fake tits when they
literally stand up by themselveswith no bra.
But I recognize that as good asthat looks, it doesn't convert
to touch.
It's very different.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Okay, just saying so did you also see the post that I
sent you?
That uh is a, a, uh, a vote,dim, uh sign, or something like
that in arlington?
That uh says we support ourfederal employees and the
caption reads there's gay,they're super gay, and then

(01:19:22):
there's simping for thebureaucracy gay.
Like you didn't read that one,you didn't read the bump in the
night with the dildo.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
You, no, no, you go to that, no, I didn't see a bump
in the night with a dildo.
What the hell are you sendingme?

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
the one above it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Jesus christ, what's that okay.
So this is a picture of a dudeholding a dildo, and so when you
hear a bump in the night, butyou're a democrat yes, you grab
the first thing that's rightnext to you on your bed, which
is exactly, yeah, of course ha,ha ha, that makes total sense

(01:19:58):
it's a completely accuratepicture of what happens in
austin every night you haven'tplayed.
Uh, cyberpunk 77 right, no, okay, had you, you would be laughing
your ass off.
Because in that Cyberpunk 77,right, no, had you, you would be
laughing your ass off.
Because in that awesome gamefor adults there is a.
There is a souvenir that isleft for you after a night with

(01:20:25):
a corporate employee that youmeet in the game, which is a
substantial size and arm length,and that weapon, as it's
categorized in the game, as it'scategorized in the game is

(01:20:47):
actually has extremely highstats for For melee.
Yeah for melee, for beating thecrap out of somebody without
killing them.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Yeah it's.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Let me see what it was called Cyberpunk.
I don't remember off the top ofmy head what it was calledpunk.
I don't remember off the top ofmy head what it was called Sir
John Falistiff is the weaponname.
Okay, cool, it's pretty funny.
I like the humor in games thesedays because it's all sort of

(01:21:29):
South Park humor.
Hopefully that tends to be thehumorous style of most games I
play anyway, when they havehumor.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Oh my god, what did you send me?

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
The review of Cyberpunk there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
with talking about Dillo, it's a one-handed club
yeah, uh I mean, this is rightup there with the sense of humor
of the people who put a bicyclehorn on their ar.
You know like imagine gettinghearing hong Hong Kong before
you get smoked.

(01:22:06):
Or you know the guy who hasproven that a silicone dildo can
be an effective suppressor.
Right Stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Oh yeah, I've seen that video.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
That's hilarious.
Regulate this.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Exactly, yeah, and that's not even single use
either.
Yeah, it's self-healing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Oh my god.
Oh yeah, no, you don't know thehorror of Madison.
This is what we get for doingthe episode at night, uh-huh, so
, jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
So Ben, just put a dude's head.
In fact, that might be yourhead.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
No, it's JD Vance dude.
That's the funny part.
No way.
Yes, it's a JD Vance head onthe previous picture.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
That is insane, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Anyway, obviously we're sounding like we picture.
That is insane.
Can someone please explain tome, please explain to me why JD
Vance is fucking everywhere inmemes right now?
I don't get it Like what did Imiss?

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
I'm pretty tuned in United States baby Dude, I guess
.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
You know we wish Trump a long and prosperous life
and all that jazz, but I thinkjd's uh got teed up pretty good
um, it all all comes down to howthis goes um.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
Like I said, dude, I think we're headed for a global
recession.
I think this is gonna bring iton.
The question is, yeah, uh, howwe come out on the other side.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
I think one of the things that unfortunately we've
talked about this in the past isgonna prove us one way or the
other and I, I think, is gonnalean in the not so fun side is I
don't think that any revolutioncan happen without bloodshed,
and I think we're starting tosee some elements of that

(01:24:13):
already and I suspect we'regoing to see a lot more.
We're going to start seeingsystematic violence perpetrated
by the left because they feellike you know, they're desperate
, they feel like rats in themaze, they're not seeing the
country turning back to theirwoke liberal ways anytime soon
and they're going to startlashing out, and it's already

(01:24:37):
been the case that the vastmajority of the gun incidents
out there are perpetrated bypeople that are on SSRIs and
other drugs that they're taking.
I think that will continue, butthe motivation will go from

(01:24:57):
just sort of semi-random to veryclearly delineated political
left violence.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
I tend to agree with you.
I think that we are going tosee, I think it's going to be an
exponential curve.
So as violence starts to happen, it's going to become more and
more accepted and everythingelse.
And I'll tell you, um, most ofthe liberals I talk to free

(01:25:26):
luigi is right up there andanything else they would say.
And they, oh yeah, he did theright thing, he, he did.
You know this.
And it's like man, I, you know,I I don't have a lot of empathy
for shitty ceos, but that wasjust cold blooded murder.
I can't support what he did.

(01:25:49):
You know, I'm not going to say,yeah, fuck them because they
make more money than me.
It's just insane to me thatthat is where we are at.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
Yeah, and that kind of reminds me of one of my
all-time favorite movies, brazil.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Which demonstrates a society in that phase of deep
separation between the haves andthe have-nots.
But even the haves are notimmune from the violence that
goes along with a society sodeeply divided.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Yeah, another good reference would be Clockwork
Orange.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Clockwork Orange is another good one.
Yep, I agree.
Yeah, there's 12 Monkeysanother good one.
So speaking of the soap inmovies, unfortunately, sure look
like a lot more predictivethese days than they used to

(01:26:51):
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
So, speaking of relevant fiction, you've been
reading a book I told you toread.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've been reading and I haven'tgotten any further than the
last time I talked to you, soI've got like five chapters left
in the Screwtape Letters.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Yeah, would you recommend?

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Yeah, I, I would recommend it.
It's a fun book, um, I like, uh, I like that style of dialogue,
sort of writing.
Um, the audio copy that I had,it was pretty damn good.
The the guy reading it was good.
Um, I think that you know my myone complaint to you initially,

(01:27:32):
when I first started, was thatit just felt a little too on the
nose and a little preachy.
It's kind of like yeah, yeah,we get it.
Come on, let's, you know, movealong.
But I think, um, after justkind of getting into more and
more chapters which each chapteris like a letter from an uncle
to a nephew that is in the trade, with advice and some

(01:27:57):
corrections that he recommendsdoing, I think I either got used
to it or just didn't notice asmuch, or whatever.
But it's fun.
It's definitely, you know,focused on sort of through
storytelling, presenting hisideas about what a good

(01:28:18):
Christian is and also shootingdown some bad Christian kind of
uh, ideals as well, um, but donein a very fun, playful way,
which I think it probably getsthe message across, but does so
without sounding like it'scoming from an authoritative

(01:28:42):
source, kind of.
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
What do you mean by an authoritative?

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
it speaks to a audience more, uh, just more
joyously like.
You can say the same thingdifferent ways.
You can say in a very drymanner, you can say it in the
way that mark twain would say itright yeah, you could convey
the same message, but the wayyou do it is going to have a

(01:29:09):
great impact on how it'sreceived.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
So I think this is good.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
I liked it Well.
One of my favorite things inthe book is you know, and this
is a lower demon and you have toremember, in the hierarchy of
hell, lower is better.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
It's upside down.
This is a lower demon, likelobsters.
This is a lower demon who istalking to his nephews, just out
of seminary, if you will, fordemon kind to try and tempt his
first human.
And one of the things, uh, youknow, wormwood is the nephew and
Screwtape is the uncle.
And so Screwtape is chidingWormwood and said you let him

(01:29:54):
meet a Christian girl and she'shad this influence on him.
How dare you, if he must pray,make him pick a corner in his
room, make him look at a cross,make him focus on some physical
thing versus the prayer?
And as a Christian I find thatextremely powerful.

(01:30:14):
I put that right up there Likeone of my favorite lines in
Hamlet is when the king ispraying and he says my words fly
up, but my thoughts remainbelow.
Words without thoughts never toheaven go and the ideas are the
same.

(01:30:34):
When we are distracted, notfocused on what truly matters
about our religious experience,that's when it becomes
meaningless.
And that's the entire pointthere.
And there's a lot of thingslike that in the screw tape
letters that make it my, quitefrankly, my favorite book of all
time which is why I'm readingit, because you said it was your

(01:30:54):
favorite book of all time yesand the uh.
What is it?
Fancies and what good nights.
Fancies and good nights came intoday so awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Okay, I'll be starting it sometime this week,
so you're gonna start readingthat, yeah yeah and it in a.
Actually, it'll be interestingto hear what you think, but I
think the tone of the book isactually very similar.
Yeah, yeah, like it's writtenin that, that type of style.
So we'll see if you agree ornot.
The, the messaging, may bedifferent, um, like, the demons

(01:31:29):
may be the good guys, but thestyle that it's written in is
similar yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
And, by the way, I could not find a uh, a um
digital copy, so I had to get aphysical copy which is okay,
which is what I got.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Obviously I got it a long time ago, but, yeah, yeah,
some books.
I've had this issue with that,no one bothers.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Because they weren't popular enough or they've been
out of print long enough.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
If we really wanted to, we could probably find it on
Google, the scanned book site.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Archiveorg.
I did find it on google.
You know the scanned book site,archiveorg.
I did find it there.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
That has a, you know crappy scanned copy, so it's
totally out of copyright.
Yeah yeah, so it should be free1965 that's one, okay, so
that's not when it was firstpublished, though it was in the
50s.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
It was first published okay, well, the copy
on archive was 1965 yeah, itmust have been a later
publication.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Then yeah, oh, oh, because it was originally
published, like a lot of booksback then, in magazines, ah,
yeah so, and then it wasassembled into a book.
Yes, yep, yep, um.
So that's another thing thatyou know.
They're short stories.
It's a collection of shortstories basically.
So that's another thing thatyou know.
They're short stories.
It's a collection of shortstories, basically.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Yeah, so yeah cool.
I look forward to reading it.
You know we'll see if it's anygood, if I can make it through
it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
And I'll finish the screw tape, one here and
relating to well, totallyunrelated actually, other than
the name.
I've started taking W wormwoodas a supplement.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
That goes more for my show with Darren.
You know, Vitamin Talk, VitaminTalk.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
I mean I know you missed Darren this Friday and
y'all didn't get to talk aboutyour aches, pains and old age
and infirmities.

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
Exactly right.
Yeah, I told him quit dying.
Every other episode, dude,we're gonna we're gonna end up
missing too many episodes youknow what you should do to
really piss him off.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
What's that?
Next time he misses, get withcsb oh yeah, I should do that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
I should tell him hey , I'm gonna have a guest, uh,
co-host yeah, and you can evensay csb, use an ai voice,
whatever.
Yeah, just uh, fuck with thereum, he would think that was
funny, honestly.
Okay, uh, because he would belike good luck no, you're a

(01:34:05):
russian scum.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
That is not how this works.
This is not what happenedexactly.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
That's not what happened.
Do you think we're going to geta nasty gram for CSB
complaining about some aspect ofour show today?

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
absolutely yes, your chapter is rough your
description was lackingauthenticity.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
Why did it take so long to publish?

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
the episode was short it was a long week uh you know
and you know we, we did lose adonor we.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
Oh, that's right, yeah, yeah, somebody so you know
we need more.
We need more people stepping up.
Look, here's the thing.
I am shocked every week when wedon't lose a donor.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
I am too, and I didn't say that to bitch at all,
but we might have to shut downthe podcast because we're losing
support and guys, we're barelymaking it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
We need the funding.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
We're not making anything.
We're still losing money atthis point, which is fine.
It's fine, it's okay.
But what I would say is go out,hit people in the mouth, spread
the word about the podcast.
You know, if you can throw ussome shekels to help us pay the
bills, great.
If not, spread the word.
Be an evangelist for us andhopefully y'all got some good

(01:35:25):
discussion out of today'sepisode, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Exactly.
Well, with that, Ben, let'swrap her up.
All right, I'm sure there'll beplenty of other things.
In fact, I'm sure as soon as wehit stop on the recorder, we'll
be looking at news and go ohshit, we should have talked
about this Cause it justhappened.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
Well, you know, we'll .

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