110 Just Two Good Old Boys

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Howdy Ben, how are you today?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Uh hail, gene hail, we got hail.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Don't you be cussing now, boy?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
No, seriously, we had about 3 am rolled through, woke
me the hell up and it was apretty good little storm.
A couple different cells goingacross the Brazos Valley and
some places ended up with golfball-sized hail.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, damn, that's dangerous shit.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, my truck's okay .
Got to get up on the ladder andlook at the roof, but we'll see
Some other people's cars not sogood.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
We had hail last week here, but it was, you know,
typical dime size or less.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, we typically don't get large hail storms here
, which is good.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Well, I'll tell you we got a lot to talk about, but
one thing I just saw on Twitteris Trump proposes no income tax
for people earning below$150,000.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
If he can sell that, he's going to have Vance being
elected by 48 states.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, it doesn't really help you, or I but sure
no, but I mean it might help you, but it doesn't help you.
Yeah, exactly, hey, man, I havelean years.
But I mean it might help you,but yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Hey, man, I have lean years, I have lean years, but
seriously, that's a.
I can't think of a better wayto win the people than to tell
them oh, by the way, we're notgonna have you pay taxes well,
he just needs to abolish theentire income tax yeah, yeah,
yeah, but what he's, what he'spitching, is basically he's out

(01:50):
burning bernie.
Yeah, because bernie wants thepoor people to pay taxes too,
but the millionaires to pay moreI'm like uh, hold my beer, okay
, how about poor people paynothing?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I don't know, man, I think this could be the exactly
the kind of thing that puts thenail in the coffin of the
Democratic Party once and forall.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, you know who was it?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Comedian Bill Maher said that he didn't know if
another Democratic presidentwould be elected, and I tend to
agree with him.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Bill Maher's been on a bender lately, he's drunk.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I mean, what do you mean by?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I mean like on the Republican bender he is.
He's making his liberal guestsextremely uncomfortable lately
by asking them you're notseriously for this woke crap,
are you?
Yeah?
And having them try and figureout what their PR agent is going

(03:01):
to have to do to fix thesituation after they say
something, regardless of whatthey say.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
What it comes down to is we need to realize the shift
in opinions that we are seeing.
We need to take advantage of it, but what needs to happen is a
lot of stuff's being talkedabout.
A lot of stuff needs to startgetting done.
Like still waiting on theepstein files still waiting on

(03:31):
certain things.
Yeah, you know my take on thatwe're never gonna get them oh
yeah, yeah, we will see therewhen, when you have.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
So I've this.
I can't remember on which,whether our show or another show
, but the names in the Epsteinfiles aren't some foreigners?
No, and they're not just BillClinton and Bill.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Gates.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
They are the names of probably over half of the
Senate and probably over a thirdof the House, so the protection
there is better than any otherdocuments in the country.
You probably have a betterchance inside of fort knox than
you do of getting the epsteinfiles which that also needs to
happen.
But yeah, it does, becauseapparently they're not letting
anyone in there, including trump.
So it should be.

(04:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's I.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
It feels like, after the biden four years of a
make-believe president, thatthere's a whole bunch of judges
out there that seem to thinkthat title president is a
ceremonial title and like well,you know the okay, so let's not

(05:09):
get off the Epstein stuff yet,but the one of the things I
would say is you know Biden'spardons that were auto-pinned,
that everyone's like, oh well,that's totally completely normal
, it's okay, yeah sure, but youknow uh things that, uh things

(05:32):
that are how do I put it uhpardons that are filed in dc,
but b Biden was in Delaware onthe day it was done.
I don't know if that'ssomething that he can consent to
Like.
If he's there and says, yes,you know, use the auto pen, I

(05:54):
consent, then okay, I get it.
I can see something like thatbeing okay.
But you know, with hiscognitive state, but you know,
with his cognitive state, thatis brought into question and

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then when?
you have pardons and thingsbeing done when he's not even
there physically.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Oh man, that has to have a legal challenge.
I think a lot of people wantthat.
I don't think it's going to goanywhere because there's nothing
that requires him to either bepresent or to not use an auto
pen.
I think I've seen I watched atwo-hour program of a lawyer

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talking, breaking this down likewhat could happen here.
The end result is nothing.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well then, you know what we need.
We need a constitutionalamendment.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Do not have an auto pen.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
You know what an auto pen.
They may have changed, but youremember the old ones, right?
Enlighten me.
I remember Reagan showing thisthing.
So it's basically a box, orused to be, the size of a boom
box.
It had an arm with an elbowcoming out of it, parallel to

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the table, with a pen inside ofit, and what it does is, when
the person signs their signature, it is measuring the movement
of the pen by the changes in theangles of the two halves of the
arm, and then it just usesmotors to do the exact same

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motion again.
So it's actually using a realpen and it's copying the motion
that it recorded.
Uh, a lot less efficient thanyou know, using a electronic
version.
This was like analog out of pen.
So they may have much betterversions now, but I remember
when I first saw it I thought itwas pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, cool.
The point is, I don't think heconsented.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Here's the thing he may have been out of, but they
probably have an out of pendocument saying he did.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Exactly the thing, but they probably have an auto
pen document saying he didexactly and.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
but when you have Mike Johnson coming, out and not
yeah, he didn't think he signedthe thing that Mike Johnson
told him he signed.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah yeah, exactly, yeah, that's a problem.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I'll tell you where I am somewhat surprised and
disappointed is that apparentlyno one's really challenging a
pre-crime pardon.
The idea of pardoning someonefor future crimes does not
belong not just in America, butdoesn't belong in any country's

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politics.
That is absurd.
That's the kind of shit thedictators do.
You cannot pardon futureactions.
That should be impossible.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well, it creates a secondary class of citizen.
You're therefore above the lawfor a period of time.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Literally above the law.
That's not okay.
Therefore, above the law for aperiod of time, literally.
That's not okay.
It's essentially giving freereign to someone to break laws
with full immunity.
It's it's not supposed tohappen, certainly not against
americans, you know sure you got, you know, 007 license to kill,

(09:43):
yeah, but not british peoplelicense to kill other people
yeah, the the pesky germans, andyou know the sand people jesus
christ, it's.
Uh, I can't tell if you'rebeing anti-semitic or
anti-muslim at this point you'rebeing anti-semitic or

(10:06):
anti-muslim at this point alittle of both it's all good,
it's really just a, a joke.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
No, the your point is well taken that this is not
something meant to.
Uh, even in the case of like007, this is meant for foreign
adversaries, and so on notgiving someone carte blanche
inside their own nation.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
And yeah, when did we get a Star Chamber?
That's what I'd like to know.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
By the way, I started watching Logan's Run last night
before.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I fell asleep.
Oh, good, good, good.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I had a memory of a totally different actor being in
it, but that's okay, yeah, okayyeah.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I'm somewhat surprised that Darren didn't
seem to have seen it.
I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I've ever seen it.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
to be honest with you , yeah but you, I expect not to
have seen it.
Okay, darren was alive when itcame out.
Barely, okay, barely, but still.
How did he not see it in thereruns?
How did he not watch it on HBO?
The movie was known back in the80s for being like the
skimpiest outfits of any filmthat wasn't a porno.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Okay, like the skimpiest outfits of any film.
That wasn't a porno, okay.
I mean it was like that.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
That, I'm not gonna lie, that was part of what made
me go.
Okay, maybe I should watch it,but it's like, eh, not really so
.
There's a documentary about theuh outfits of that movie and
documentary about the outfits ofthat movie.
And when they first startedcreating them for the actors,
they, for authenticity's sake,they wanted everyone, meaning

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women, to not wear bras, becausethey wanted that chiffon just
kind of draped over them andapparently about halfway through
the movie there was a lot ofprotesting going on and that's
why you'll see littleinconsistencies there, just
where in some scenes it's justthat in other scenes there's

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like a bra underneath I guess,there's some chafing going on or
something that they didn't havepasties in the 80s uh, it's a.
Well, no, they did, but I don'tthink they were popular enough
to use.
But uh, the it also takes awayfrom authenticity, you know.

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But I think the materials backthen tended to be a lot more
plasticky you know what I meanLike more fake.
So you said you started.
How far did you get?

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I'd have to go, look man.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I fell asleep.
Okay, gotcha, have to go.
Look, man, I I fell asleep.
So okay, okay, gotcha.
But yeah, I always thought, youknow, as a teenager, those were
pretty damn good outfits andwhy don't more movies have those
?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
well, I mean certainly today we have a lot,
of a lot more skimpy stuff yeah,less attractive people though
that's the thing is.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
You look at them like no, the chicks were way more
attractive back then no yeah, Idon't think there was a single
one over 120 pounds.
Uh, now they're all like 200okay, okay, I guess look at

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OnlyFans.
Dude, a lot of fat chicks onOnlyFans chubby yeah now and
then.
The main characteristics isn'tthat they're attractive, it's
that they're willing to do crazyshit to themselves.
That's what seems to draw thepeople out there, whereas in the

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past it was actually anattractive looking woman yeah, I
agree to disagree on that.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
And you know, for someone who had a spa that knew
exactly what they liked.
Uh, you know, because you sentso many chicks there.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Uh, I, I question your remembrance of the 70s and
80s because, yeah, but you don'tthink that there were women
that were doing brazilians inthe 80s?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
uh a lot fewer.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Uh, the 80s.
The most popular style in the80s was the racing track,
landing track, what are theycalled?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
landing strip.
Yeah, there you go straightline.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah, that was for sure the most popular in the 80s
okay but um 70s, yeah, I meanthat was all over the place.
That was fucking mess crazinessgoing on there.
But either way, I think youjust don't like the fact that
the women were skinny and didn'thave big boobs.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Well, you know, I don't mind skinny, I just prefer
the big boobs.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Sure, I get it, I get , but it's, it's a good movie
and I believe that in the book,the, it was all of the 30th
birthday, so the actors areactually kind of a little too
old to be playing these partshow so?
Because they're all over 30.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Were they at the time ?
Yeah, okay, I don't know.
They look 30-ish to me, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
But I think even the main actress, chick, was 31 or
something.
But it's, yeah, I thought itwas a pretty good movie and
sci-fi, but very 1970s Did youever see Barbarella?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
No, have you ever heard of Barbarella Ish?

Speaker 1 (16:15):
yes, Okay, you should watch Barbarella right after
this.
Then why?
I think well, because it's fromthe same time period.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Isn't it like a quasi-porn?
Similar outfits.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
It's not really.
It's more of a sexy comedy, Iwould say, than a porn.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
But it's the film that made everybody love Jane
Fonda and then realize that herbrain is literally non-existent
yeah.
Uh huh, but in that movie youknow, she plays this ditzy hot
blonde chick in space namedBarbarella.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
And uh, and yeah, she is at her peak of look for sure
, don't do anything about it.
There's a movie that was doneby Roman Coppola back about 20
years ago or so.
That, loosely, is about themaking of Barbarella, but not

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completely.
It's just a similar kind offictitious movie.
Very good, what the hell is itcalled?
He's done so few movies.
You know who?
He is all right who.

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The son of uh, um, what's hisname?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
the, the big coppola guy I, I'm not uh not tracking
here, gene, sorry, yeah, I knowI know well, I'm a little I mean
.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
You're on a the big Coppola guy, I I not, uh, not
tracking here, jean, sorry, Iknow I know Well, I'm a little I
mean you're on a few hours ofsleep and it's fairly early I'm
more like I'm in way too manyhours of not sleeping is what I
am.
Um, tons of hours of notsleeping.
Uh, what is the movie?
What, what is the movie?

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What is the damn movie?
Huh, I'll figure it out, I'llfind it.
That is weird, so that is weird.
So, while I'm scrolling here,what else is going on?
What have you been up to?
Well, this is Ford Coppola'skid.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Okay, what about him?

Speaker 1 (18:57):
No, that's Roman Coppola.
That's who he is.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
What have you been up to?
Well, just paying attention tothe news, working my tail off,
it's been a busy, busy week.
We've got quite a few projectscoming in, things really heating
up in a lot of ways, which is agood thing.
But the big contract we won inVirginia.
That contract is technically acontract with the Commonwealth.

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That contract is technically acontract with the Commonwealth,
which means any otherCommonwealth utility can use
that vehicle.
All they have to do is fundtheir task order.
And, yeah, talk about openingup a floodgate.
It's like a general governmentcontract.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, sounds like it so you'll be busy very but you
know hey, that's life.
That's not a bad thing workingfor the man working for the man
hardly working for the militaryindustrial complex.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I have one project with a defense contractor.
Thank you, that's only one Knewit.
No, but so we've had somemovement on the Canadian side

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side we've had uh some ink thetariffs going really fucking
crazy across the entire worldchina, tariffing canada, etc.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I mean like I know right people are starting.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Here's the thing tariffs have been in place for a
very long time on the us.
Yeah, we are just now startingto.
You know, we we've been in thisquote-unquote trade war for a
long time.
We're just now starting toactually push back a little bit,
and you know, quite frankly, ifwe did reciprocal tariffs on

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canada, they'd be bankruptpretty effing quick.
We are not doing pure reciprocaltariffs, which, in my mind, if
you're going to do tariffs, sayreciprocal, it's up to you
country that you want to tradewith us.
We can go to zero.
If you go to zero, we go tozero.
That is my ideal world.
Is we really just say, look, wedon't want tariffs.

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Tariffs shouldn't exist.
We should just trade freely.
But here's the deal you got totrade freely as well, and not
just like for like, becausethere are going to be countries
that can produce certain thingscheaper than us.
What we need to be able to do,though, is say hey, look, any
tariff on any of our goods thatwe would typically be able to

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sell to you, okay, so ie cheeseto Canada?
That tariff doesn't mean thatwe tariff Canadian cheese.
We tariff a Canadian good thatis equally valuable to Americans

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.
So, something we would want fromCanada, like, for whatever
reason why people want Canadianwhiskey.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't like tariffs in general, but I also don't like
asymmetric relationships.
I think there's other ways toget other countries to get rid
of tariffs.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
You make it as symmetrical as possible, but
that symmetry needs to bemeaningful.
So if you just have Canadatariffing our milk and cheese,
and okay, but we don't reallybuy milk and cheese from.
Canada it doesn't matter, right.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
So you have to make it meaningfully symmetric, is my
point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I get that.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I just I think we can do it without tariffs.
I get why.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Trump's doing.
Tariffs um, you look at thethings that we as a country like
national defense and monitoringstations for nukes coming
across from China and Russiastart charging them the exact

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same amount that they tariffAmerican goods for providing
that service.
And if they don pay, then youdon't provide it.
You cut off Starlink.
My point is that we don't haveto get into this tit for tat.
We're going to tax more.

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No, we're going to tax more.
Well, if you tax more, thenwe're going to tax even more.
Tax more no, we're going to taxmore.
Well, if you tax more, thenwe're going to tax even more
Because, honestly, while it maybenefit the country, it does not
benefit the individual peopleliving in those countries.
So I'm more in favor of adifferent type of relationship,

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where you look at, well, what dowe get from this country and
what do they get from us, andthen make it asymmetric in that
regard.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
But why don't you want to punish the Canadians?

Speaker 1 (24:36):
No, I do Look at who they just elected, you can
create a $1, dollar per wheelfee for trucks crossing from
canada into us sure easily likesomething like that.
You can.
There are a lot of ways topunish canada without raising

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the price of american goods thatbuy parts from Canada.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Okay, so here's one thing I will say I do believe
yeah, you get through two ofthose now in a row.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Okay, performatives.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
What it comes down to .
Okay, a third one.
Okay, you're just Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Biden, spit it out.
What are you going to say?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
I don't think we are going to see a huge price
increase over American-madegoods versus foreign goods.
What you'll see is foreigngoods coming up to the price of
American-made goods and then thechoice is pretty clear or the
foreign goods will take lessprofit incentive and you'll see

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some equalization there.
It is not a one-for-one is theentire point.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
It's not a one-for-one absolutely I don't
think it would be, but what wehave heard is Ford saying that
tariffs on Canadian-producedautomotive parts will be passed
on to the consumer and they'reestimating it's roughly $4,000
per vehicle.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Okay, and that will be temporary, until those plants
can be moved into the US, andthen that will change up down
whatever, but not really,because moving the plants to the
US does not lower the price.
It can, first of all because ifthe tariffs are sufficient that
it is cheaper to do business inthe United States than it is to

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pay the tariff it will lowerthe cost of goods.
And the auto industry has beenso screwed up since COVID, it
isn't even funny.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
But it won't because there's no incentive to lower
the price beyond what thealternative prices are.
So if the price for the partsfor this widget is $10 after
tariff and I can make that samewidget in the US, I'm going to
price it at $9.99.
Not like $7.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Sure Until you have competition.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
If somebody makes that widget for $9.98, then I've
got to go to $9.97.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
This is where competition needs to happen.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, except there isn't any in the automotive
industry, which is a problem.
It's a problem with theindustry and it's a problem for
America, because we have to bailthem out.
How many times now?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, Ford hasn't ever been bailed out.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Okay, Ford still took loans.
They paid them back.
If you look at their articles,you can see that they took out
loans that were guaranteed bythe US government.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
They happened to have paid them back.
Yeah, but they still paid themback.
Yeah, yeah, gm did not.
Gm would have gone bankrupt ifthey would have had to pay the
loans back.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Chrysler was sold to a foreign company, so GM would
have likely been also sold toforeign companies.
Would you like a Citroën Buick?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Well, I mean I switched from Chevy to Ford
basically because of thegovernment motors and the
bailout.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
You were a Chevy guy before Jesus.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, my first truck was a Chevy.
My family was Chevy, most of mylife.
But, you know, hey, I have nobrand loyalty.
I go where you know the bestprice, best functionality is
going to be.
You know, like right, I'mtalking to you on an AMD
processor instead of Intel.
Just insanity like that.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
AMDs are better man.
Every gamer knows this.
Biggest cash in the business,okay, unlike Intel, oh my god,
I'm getting Apple IntelligenceBeta.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Oh, are you?
Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:06):
my God, I'm getting Apple Intelligence Beta.
Oh, are you?
Oh, wow, you've been selectedto be special Lucky you.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
I hate Macs, that's why you get it.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
I hate Macs.
So yeah, I sent you a link, bythe way, both to Barbarella, so
yeah, I see it, I see it.
And to this, cq was the name ofthe movie, which was very, very
loosely based on the making ofBarbarella.
But I really thought CQ was abrilliant movie.

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The guy is a great directormovie.
The guy is a great director.
He is, I think, very close tohis dad and level of directing,
but but also he does not seem tomake movies much done that way
well, with the crazy weather wehad, amorello had some major

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issues, did you see?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
that uh, I did yeah that truck, semi trucks getting
blown over on the highway thatlooks like a scene out of a
movie yeah and then.
Uh, did you see what happenedin still water?

Speaker 1 (30:17):
no, what happened there?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
uh, big fire went through several neighborhoods
really yeah, yeah burned a wholebunch of down well, that's not
good they know who lit it well,with the winds and everything
else, you got to rememberoklahoma and northern texas was
getting 80 mile an hour winds.

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So who knows, and one you know,when you have a fire start in
that sort of condition, it it'svery yeah, it's, it's over right
, it's just, it's not going toend?
well, yeah, and especiallywithout water well, oklahoma
doesn't have much water, so yeah, yeah, it's been kind of a dry

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season.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I know we've got uh here in austin, we've had um
fire safety alerts or whateveryou know.
Oh yeah, we've.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
We've had red flag warnings all week here in uh in
in college station, but wehaven't had the wind that um
that they were seeing up there,though.
So hearts and, you know,prayers and thoughts go out to
people who are affected, butit's uh, it's not good man no uh

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, you know, you know, climatechange, it's this.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
It's just crazy micro climate change, maybe all the
windmills?
I tell you they're fucking withthe climate.
What do?
You get when you slow down thecurrents and break them up.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Uh, you know, I I do think that weather weapons are a
thing.
I just sent you a map of everyrecorded battle in history.
It's pretty telling oh really,yeah, were they all in ukraine
uh, they're all in europe yeah,well oh man, europe is so

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screwed, so do you think we'regonna have a uh deal, a
ceasefire, or no?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I mean at some point, not in the next 30 days, we
won't, but at some point we willwhy do you think not in the
next 30 days?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I, I think it's no, no, not for russia just because
they want to screw over theukrainians, or there are.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
It's a very good time for ukraine to run out and kick
somebody and then run back andhide, which is kind of what
they're doing.
Um, they're on the brink oflosing 80,000 men, not to death,
but to becoming prisoners ofwar which I think had a very
large impact on why, all of asudden, zelensky changed his

(32:58):
mind.
That, combined with realizingthat the US was going to cut off
intelligence, which Ukraine,without US intelligence, would
have lost the war three yearsago.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Well, us intelligence and information is cut off
right now.
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
It's back on.
They announced it so I think,but it was cut off for like a
week and I think that had someimpact as well.
But, putin, you know, I sentthe full speech to Adam.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yes yes, you are the in-your-underwear you know
Russian translator.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Exactly, and you know he starts the speech off by
saying that he'd like to thankTrump for taking the time and
effort to work on this and thatin principle, he completely is
in favor of doing a ceasefireand it's going to be important

(34:04):
to get that done as quickly aspossible.
Get that done as quickly aspossible, and then for the next
half hour he goes on to explainwhy a ceasefire right now is
effectively Ukraine simplysaying don't shoot us for 30
days so we can rearm and refitand get our equipment into the

(34:28):
areas that you're about tocapture and would capture.
but we want to reinforce them inthose 30 days, and so his point
is, if we want to do a 30-dayceasefire, that means it's a
full ceasefire.
It's a cease of all Americanintelligence, it's a cessation
of all European and Americanweaponry support.

(34:49):
It's a cessation of anymovement of any, you know,
potential troops.
Basically, any male of that agecannot enter the country.
It's like he's got some verystraightforward conditions under
which he would agree to aceasefire.
Straightforward conditionsunder which he would agree to a

(35:11):
ceasefire.
But you also have to rememberthat there were two of these
previously, and Angela Merkel,in an interview herself, said
that you know that was for theprevious ceasefire.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
But yes, right, that's why I said for the
previous.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
There were two ceasefires previously.
This would be the third one andshe basically said yeah, we, we
all said we'll guarantee it andwe agreed to it because Ukraine
needed time to rearm and weknew that and this was a way to
buy that time.
So, no rearming, nointelligence sharing, no

(35:49):
movement of any troops, which?

Speaker 2 (35:52):
by the way, it looks like the US has still paused
intelligence sharing.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Really, Because there was an ex-post I keep saying
Twitter there was an ex-postthat announced that the
intelligence sharing was back on.
So, who knows, Maybe it is.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
I'm just telling you what the news says.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, we should ask Grok See what it knows.
You go for that.
So the bottom line for Russiais they're like look, if we
don't have this right now, thenwe're going to capture 80,000
people, we're going to move thefront probably by a couple
hundred miles and, you know,maybe at that point we'll talk.

(36:35):
But it makes zero sense forRussia to do this right now
absent a whole bunch ofconditional guarantees.
And you know, one of thelegitimate questions is like
look, who's going to beverifying that none of these
things are happening?
For Ukraine Can't trust anyEuropean countries because

(36:56):
they're all very partisananti-Russian.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Well, it's going to be China, so no, it'll have to
be the US.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
No, us is one of the countries supplying weapons, so
it's going to have to be aneutral country that isn't
involved in the Ukraine conflict.
And this is one area whereChina is actually, I think, very
purposefully remain neutral,because they want to be the
arbiter if it comes down to it.
Another possibility is SaudiArabia.

(37:31):
They may end up being thearbiter in that situation.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
That would be an interesting position for Saudi
Arabia to be in.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Well, they want to present themselves as more than
just a refinery with a lot ofmoney.
They're always looking forthings like that.
So I don't know.
It's interesting.
My kind of gut feel is thatthere's no way that Zelensky or

(38:01):
the US is going to agree to theterms that Putin is setting
forth, which effectively meansthere won't be a ceasefire for a
while and Putin's terms mayfirefor a while, and Putin's terms
may change after a while, as mayZelensky in the US.
But what are you going to do toRussia if they say no, no,
thanks.
We're not going to do that.

(38:21):
Right now, the US is alreadysanctioning every damn thing
possible, short of entering thewar and putting boots on the
ground, which no American wantsand is the opposite of what
Trump said he'd do.
I really don't see whatpressure can be applied to

(38:42):
Russia in this situation.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Well, I can think of something what um?
Well, I, I can think ofsomething what uh us companies
on the ground, mining mineralsand disputed areas.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Well, how are they going to get there?

Speaker 2 (39:00):
us, sends them over there uh on what?
What do you mean on what?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
r Russia's shooting down the planes dude.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, Russia's not going to shoot down a US plane
carrying civilian contractors.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
If the warning is given ahead of time.
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
No.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
It's happened before.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Happened before in multiple countries.
I do not see them doing that.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
The planes always divert because their
instructions is that if amilitary jet gets next to you
and says we will fire in threeminutes, you're instructed to go
to these coordinates or youwill be blown out of the air.
Doesn't matter what the countryis.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
They follow those rules because, yeah, but
russia's not gonna do thatmilitary that is how you would
start World War III, and I donot look.
I am not a fan of Putin, Idon't necessarily think he's a
good guy or anything like that,but what I would say is he's
done everything he can to avoidWorld War III is my

(40:04):
interpretation of his actions.
I would agree of his actions.
I would agree and, quitefrankly, if trump says we're
sending a fuck it let's say a747 load of contractors over
there to start looking at miningthis materials, you're gonna
let him do it he's gonna, lethim do it.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
well, you can't walk through a war, a wall that
somebody that's engaged in thewar can't go through, because
they're civilians they're calledcasualties of war at that point
.
So if US wants to sendcasualties of war, I mean I

(40:44):
wouldn't volunteer for that.
Would you go to Ukraine if yourcompany said?
Company said hey, we're gonnalook at the security operations
of their nuclear?

Speaker 2 (40:52):
uh, generator there.
Would you like to go ben?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
sure?
Uh, okay, just make sure youleave your guns to me fuck that.
I'm taking them with me oh, butyou can't because they have
laws down there.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
You know I don't give a shit, oh man, yeah, no, I
look.
I think that there isabsolutely a world where the us
interdicts and says we're goingto come in, we're going to stop
this and we're going tonegotiate.
We're going to do this and ithappens.
Is that going to be the worldwe live in?

(41:31):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, maybe the thing that I also don't see happening
is if the US does somethinglike place civilian shields for
the Ukrainian military, do youreally think that the Ukrainians
are going to stop trying tofight Russia at that point?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Well, but if they don't, then they piss us off and
we end up fighting themalongside the Russians.
Well, that would be okay forRussia.
Yeah, exactly that's my point.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Because the US fighting Ukraine would be a good
thing.
But I mean, I would say thatthe odds of if there is a 30-day
truce right, if that happens, Ithink, the odds of there being
drones that fly to Moscow, andwhether they're shut down or

(42:21):
whether they actually hit abuilding or a car or something
else, that's a differentquestion, but there would
absolutely still be dronesflying from ukraine to moscow.
They're not going to stop doingthat even if there's a official
ceasefire happening, becausethey can always blame it on one
of two things.
They can either blame it on oh,it's just a russian, uh, red

(42:45):
flag, you know right false flagyeah yeah, false flag they're,
they're going.
They're going to say that, nope,not us.
They've already done thatmultiple times, like, oh, look
at russia killing all thesepeople, they're dead in the
streets from some kind ofchemicals.
And then turned out that thesewere dead bodies that were
brought over and unloaded fromtrucks by ukraine, and we have

(43:07):
satellites showing.
I'm doing that.
It's like you staged a deathzone and blamed somebody else.
Okay, and then, uh, the otherthing is, even if they don't
blame russia, they can alwaysblame it on some, you know, non,
uh, uh, like a rogue militaryelement or some.

(43:29):
So there's always a plausibledeniability.
They can throw out there and saywell no, no, no, this isn't
coming from the president of thecountry.
This is some independent,self-righteous Ukrainian patriot
doing his duty, but not whatthe president says.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, well, I think Zelensky is going to have to.
I, I think it's going to bemessy.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
I have to the point is it's going to be messy, it's
not.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
It's not going to be as clean as trump would like it
to be well then you know whatthe other option is, that I'm
very sad that we haven'texecuted on what say fuck it,
get out of oh yeah nato and walkaway from Europe and let the
sun bitch burn.
I do not understand why peoplewant to keep propping up such

(44:15):
failing systems.
Let it burn.
We will be better off on theother side.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
But for the same reason that people in this
country want to keep propping upUSAID.
I don't.
No, I know you don't.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
I'm saying enough people do that.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
We're seeing a big resistance to it.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Like I was talking to a liberal friend of mine.
What you have liberal friends,I do, and they're like.
I can't believe you're on boardwith this and everything else.
I don't give a shit.
Burn it all down, let it all go.
What about all the people?
I don't care like you aretalking to the wrong human being
to get me to be empathetic onthis.

(44:56):
You know this is not, not gonnabe a thing.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I, and honestly- I don't torch Social.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Security and I have two parents receiving Social
Security.
I don't care that, but that's.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
that's the thing with this whole situation in Ukraine
is that the only reason as manypeople have died there as have,
and the only reason it'sdragged on as long as it has, is
because of US support.
European support didn't dodiddly squat.
It maybe slowed things down bya week, but US support created a

(45:33):
situation where you havemediocre trained troops, but
with an unlimited budget, anunlimited supply of weapons and
ammunition, unlimited trainingin all the weaponry that they're
not familiar with, going offand actually doing a much better

(45:56):
job than people expected themto against Russia.
And it is, I think,disingenuous to say that the US
isn't the main reason and forall we know, it's the only
reason, not just the main reasonthat Ukraine still is called

(46:22):
Ukraine today.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Versus.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Versus a small?
U you know that part of Russiawhich has always been called
Ukraine, versus a country thatwas invented out of thin air in
1992.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Did you see the awake with JP coming at a liberal
coming out of coma?
I did yes.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yes, yes, I did, did.
That was funny, I love.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
JP.
Jp is good.
Yeah, you know I had a.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
You know, jp used to live in California and he was a
yes, now he's in Austin, isn'the?
yeah, yeah he's here now, buthe's a pretty liberal dude and
and his comedy was sort of itwas really making fun of rich
people more than anything andkind of making fun of the fact

(47:21):
that they considered yoga to bethis sport equivalent to other
sports, and all you're doing isjust bending yourself and stuff
like that.
That was his mainstay, and whenI don't know if he moved to
Texas because he was becomingmore conservative or if he moved

(47:44):
for financial reasons and thenbecame more conservative, but
one way or the other, um it theykind of coincided and he
started not just making fun ofrich people but actually making
fun of californians that hemoves away from and then of the,
more generally speaking, thelibtards out there.

(48:06):
Okay, so no, I enjoy JP I.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
One of the two bumper stickers I have on my truck is
one of his from kovat.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
And that's bravery, not obedience, like good yeah
yeah, yeah, and and I think healso found God.
That was the other big changethat happened for him.
Yeah, but he, like I've been, Ienjoyed his humor even when I
was conservative at all, like hewas genuinely always just a
funny guy.
He was also a skinny redhead,not like totally pumped up and

(48:45):
you know, basically looking likealmost as bad as Carrot Top.
Not quite, though, I'm sorry,but gingers just should not
exercise.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
That's not a ginger trait, unless they're female.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Well no, they can do yoga if they're well hell.
They can do yoga if they'remale.
I don't care about that, butthey shouldn't be pumping iron.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Why.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Because it's just that.
No, the red hair on a muscularbody just does not work.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Uh, it looks fake well, guys with red hair should
dye it that black.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Something else something other than red.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and well, youknow, and and more brunette
should.
Girls should dye their hair red, but yeah, I'm in favor of that
, although there's a definitelya difference between dyed red
and actual redheads oh,absolutely.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yeah, actual redheads are fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yeah, they are fucking crazy, and sometimes
that fucking crazy comes out inthe bedroom and then it's really
good Sure, and then sometimesit comes out at the dating room
table and that's really bad.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Or you know your car tires.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah, yeah exactly.
Fucking crazy.
Women are fucking crazy too.
Well, that's been saying thatfor a while too.
Um, who sent the picture?
I think you, you liked it ofthe truck, an old truck that
says in the back uh, what was it?

(50:23):
Make women servants again, orsomething oh, oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
yeah, it was a post that said make women property
again or something.
And I retweeted it to you,saying Gene.
I thought you drove a nicer car.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, exactly, yeah, yeah, down with
the 19th, for sure.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Well, well, I figured it was you, so you know
whatever uh, so, uh, what elsegoing on here?

Speaker 1 (50:59):
oh, I got, um, I made a little song in in, you know
the AI yeah, yeah, yeah of somepoetry, I guess, that Jack so
big posted and I turned itaround in about five minutes and

(51:21):
he retweeted it.
Yeah, I was like that's yourretail did you retweet the show?
Yeah, I retweeted the show.
Yeah, I put it in there andit's still gaining.
You know more, not just likes,but actual retweets from other
people.
So I think that's pretty cool.

(51:42):
I've never had somebody with 3million people that are
following him retweet anythingI've said before or done, so
it's a neat experience, good foryou gene now also uh.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yesterday I crossed over 2 000 subscribers on
youtube.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Ah, congratulations I will say going from zero to
two,000 since September, inbasically six months.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Pretty fucking fast Okay.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
You know, some people take years to get to that point
.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Translate it into listeners for our show.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Well, there might be a point at which you know our
show is just not making enoughmoney to worry about doing it.
I'll just do nothing butYouTube, um, and I, I, I think
that in a lot of ways, youtubeis kind of eating Twitch's lunch
.
Twitch, which used to be thegaming preferred platform, I

(52:48):
think, is really lose the well,I was going to say losing, but I
think they've lost things,because most of the things that
I see recommended to me ontwitch are just what the we're
called chat streams, which iskind of like what Asmund does
and a whole bunch of otherpeople do, and you know, like

(53:11):
Sasha Gray and other people Iwatch on there, they're just
sitting and talking the audience, and on YouTube, the number of
people that are actually doingactual gameplay is going up.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
So I think YouTube's kind of winning that battle well
, I don't have a dog in thathunt, don't really care I know,
but some did you did you see theuh rage rooms?
Where uh, they're, uh, so thisone's in halifax.
I'll'll send you a link.
Oh, okay, the people are goinginto these rage rooms with

(53:51):
crowbars and sledgehammers,stuff like that, and the owner
is letting them smash uppictures of Trump and Elon and
so on.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Is that illegal?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Every single person who goes in there should be on a
list like I'm.
I'm not an authoritarian, I amnot someone who says this
lightly, but like this is not.
You are mentally fucking ill ifyou think this is cathartic in
any way, shape or form there aretwo things I've been saying,

(54:28):
one like the 19th was a mistake,and the other one is that
shutting down the Satan asylumswas also a mistake.
Well, you know, and here's thething Like the entire concept of
the Rage Room that apparentlyhas been a thing for a while, I
did not know this.
You know, go in, smash a TV, goand do this.
You know, break, smash a tv, goand do this to.

(54:48):
You know, break shit.
Right, that's the entire point,is breaking shit.
And if you find that catharticand you think that is helpful,
you are not in a good mentalplace yeah, well, it is
cathartic for a four-year-old,sure but people are paying.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
These are adults, I am, you know but they're clearly
acting like a four-year-old,like you ought to be able to
deal with disappointment withoutwrecking stuff.
But also I've seen a bunch ofvideos of guys watching a
sporting game of some type andthen destroying the television

(55:29):
set when their team loses.
What's up with that?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
It's stupidity.
I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
No, what's your TV got to do with anything?
Well, again.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Like I like football, I like watching my Aggies when
they lose, I have a reaction,but it's not that.
Speaking of reactions, did yousee the left lose their
collective fucking mind overPete Hegsa's latest move?

Speaker 1 (56:05):
No, what's the latest move?

Speaker 2 (56:08):
As of now, all, all, without exception, or without
any test or yada, yada yada, alltransgender soldiers are
disqualified from service.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Well, that makes sense they make people
uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
There's lots of stuff I tend to agree.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, now there is an argument to be made for
actually having them in themilitary, and that is as drill
surgeons to scare the shit outof the new recruits and get them
used to adverse conditions.
Okay, but short of that I wouldagree.

(56:55):
And I I like there's alwaysstories of like, well, you know,
in history there was like gayunits and lesbian units and all
these things where it was like agroup of people that all like
to sleep together, that weretogether.
I'm like, okay, maybe I'm notgonna say that there weren't
there.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
I will say that I think that is absolute bullshit.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Well, apparently Alexander the Great had a lot of
gay people in his army.
And you know I mean that mayvery well have happened, but I
think that they also haddifferent standards of not just
morality but different standardsof discipline, Like back then.

(57:35):
Capital punishment was doledout for all kinds of things.
You might get caught eating anextra ration, um, eating an

(57:55):
extra ration, and you?
You might be tied to a post andleft while alive, soon to be
dead.
It's a.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
It was a much more brutal world back then and I
think, I think is a huge part ofour entire societal problem is
we're not brutal enough, exactlyWell, you can thank
Christianity for that.
You can thank capitalism.
You can thank lots of things.

(58:18):
We need some hardship in ourlives, and how we go about
getting that back, I don't know.
I think it's going to beimposed on us if we're not
careful.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
And you know.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
I would rather do it in an orderly way than a
disorderly way.
But you know, one of the thingsI would say is just like this
um post by retard finder on theum rage rooms right, those are
people who have never actuallyhad to deal with probably

(58:51):
anything traumatic.
Yeah, it's always been takencare of, it's always been
handled, it's always been doneby someone else, and that
someone else was probably theirdad.
They probably don't recognizeit.
They probably think of him as acrappy old white guy that you
know whatever.
But you know what?
I am tired of people not sayingthank you for the little things
, because you know what thelittle things add up.

(59:14):
And when you, when you'reconstantly dealing with stuff
for your family and everythingelse and there's no thank yous,
it's a hard thing to deal with,but this is why you gotta let
your kids fail.
This is why you got to let yourkids fail.
This is why you got to let themdeal with some crap.
You can't you know you can'tsave them for their entire lives

(59:36):
.
You have to let them grow andif they're doing, Yep.

(01:00:00):
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Hey it's.
It's usually the parents thatare at fault.
That's kind of where you canpoint the finger.
That's what I'm saying that areat fault.
That's kind of where you canpoint the finger yeah, that's
what I'm saying and the onesthat start pushing back and
arguing and saying, well, no, no, it's the teachers that.
You know, I have no controlover my kids for eight hours a
day.
Well, whose fault is that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Exactly.
Well, I told you the storyabout a co-worker I had at a
power plant.
He was an INC guy and just aninteresting guy.

(01:00:41):
But you know, kenny, he saidwell, we're not paying our
teachers enough, they're theones raising our kids.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
And.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
I just looked at him and said why the fuck are
teachers raising our kids?
And I just looked at him andsaid why the fuck are teachers
raising your kids yeah, youshould have asked well, how much
do you pay your wife?

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
then?

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
anyway, you know this entire mentality of you, know
it's okay to just let someoneelse raise your children and you
, you no longer haveresponsibility hey, this, it's
not okay and even private school.

(01:01:17):
It you have to watch out, it isit is a.
It is a tragic world out there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I've got a good friend that his kid went to
private school.
All through school you knowwealthy family and of course,
almost exactly like down themanual it goes where the kid
goes to college and ends upoverdosing and ends up in rehab.
Like well you know, 10 years ofprivate school.

(01:01:49):
Sure did a lot, didn't it?
well, I mean, it's not even that, it's the gender stuff, it's
lots of things, but I I thinkit's all connected, man, because
yeah, if you're a teenager,you're in college, you want to
try stuff, but there's a there'san element of fear that has to
exist, that keeps you from goingoverboard like if somebody

(01:02:13):
hands you a bottle societal feardrink, yeah, like somebody
hands you a bottle for yourfirst drink as a teenager.
You don't chug the whole damnthing, because you could
literally die.
And if you do chug the wholething, well, you ought to die.
And uh, well, you ought to die.
And you know, what you ought tobe doing is pretending like, oh
my God, yeah, I'm going todrink a lot, and then look for

(01:02:36):
the nearest plant to dump yourcup into your little Dixie cup.
That is, I think, what we'velost.
We've lost common sense inteenagers because, partly
because we've had parentshanding them over to unqualified
teachers making too much money-I don't agree.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Oh man, so do you want to talk about Sig?

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Sure, your favorite topic, let's talk about Sig.
It's not my favorite topic.
Bring it up.
Every fucking show, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
How do I bring it up every fucking show?

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Well, you managed to do it.
What do you want to talk about?

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Okay, I bring it up every fucking show.
Well, you managed to do it.
What do you want to talk about?
Okay, so one Palmetto State hasthe M17 on sale right now for
500 bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
We really should get sponsored by them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Yes, and I would like that very much, but no, sig has
come out and is defendingitself very vociferously.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Oh, against drops and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Yes, yeah, yeah itself uh very vociferously
against drops and shit.
Yes, yeah, and twitter has beengoing crazy with a lot of posts
showing oh, yeah, well, look atthis, look at this, yeah, and I
I gotta tell you where I sit onthis.
Um, I have a sig p320.
I have dropped my sig p320.
It has not gone off.

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I have used various holsters.
I've done lots of things.
I consider it a safe firearm.
That said, any firearm ispotentially dangerous.
You have stored energy.
You have a potential energywith the.

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You know the way striker firedweapons work.
It is not like a hammer firedgun.
They are different.
There are, you know, people aretalking about the over
insertion issues and all thatwith the magazines.
I have tested that on my own gunand I don't see it.
Maybe it's because I don't havean extremely extended magazine

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that doesn't get caught by themagwell, because mine does.
I think it's very specific tocertain variants of the sig p320
and I think you have a lot ofpeople glamming on saying, oh
yeah, I had this issue too,because they don't want to take
responsibility for their ownactions.
That's my view on it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Yeah I get it and and we've had this conversation
before too I have a negativeview of sig because I had the
bad experience with the one sigI bought and so and it was a
mouth just non-stopmalfunctioning, to the point
where I talked to gun store whodoes not accept returns to take

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the gun back yeah because, likethis thing was manufactured
poorly, I cannot have an unsafegun and see I have, and see I
have.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
so SIGs, I have multiple SIGs.
I have what Pistols?
I have three SIGs, and so I'vegot a .229.
I've got a .365, which is mydaily carry, and I've got my
P320, which is now in a pdw form, and they are some of the most

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reliable handguns I have evershot, regardless of what loads
I'm shooting.
Everything else they just eatand are very functional.
So I have an incrediblydifferent experience.
The first SIG I ever got wasactually the M17.
That was the first.
SIG I ever owned and I have shotthe hell out of it, like I

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actually have ordered a barrelhere recently because I have put
enough rounds through it thatyou know, I've probably at least
put.
I'm not replacing the barreljust yet, but I know I'm getting
there.
I've probably put over 5000rounds to that gun, if not more,
and I have not had amalfunction.
So when I sit there and say,you know, I consider this drop

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safe, I don't see the problem.
I don't see what others arereporting on the Internet.
I'm saying that as someone whohas shot the hell out of this
gun.
But you know what?
I'm not an expert.
I don't know.
There could be different issuesand variants and maybe yours
was built at a different timeand some material wasn't done
right or used or whatever.

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But guess what that happenswith anything that happens in
all manufacturing it does.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
But but it also happened in the time where I was
very much a glock guy, not a,not even a an xd guy like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I am now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
And you know my Glock that I still have, the one
Glock that I told you about.
Part of the reason that I stillhave it is that I have shot
over 40,000 rounds through thatgun myself and it is.
I can count on one hand thenumber of times it's jammed in

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40,000 rounds.
And cheap ammo, high qualityammo, anything other than
Russian ammo.
I've never shot Russian shitthrough it, so no corrosives.
But I've shot pretty mucheverything else and it just it
worked.
This was back in the day whenGlocks had hexagonal barrels,

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which they don't, unfortunately,anymore.
I prefer the hexagonal barrelsfor that exact reason, because
they just feed anything.
But you know, going off of that, getting a SIG, which was Mark
Spencer and nicer and everything, and and then having nothing
but trouble with it to the pointwhere I had to return it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
it was just like okay lesson learned well, so for me,
um I I just don't like the wayglock shoots it's like the, the
aim point and everything for meis off.
Uh, I have a Glock clone.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I have.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
You know, parents have Glocks.
I've shot Glocks.
They're fine.
There's nothing wrong with aGlock.
I think there's a lot of.
Anyway, what it comes down tois all weapons can have failures
.

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Clean, take care of, maintainyour weapons know what they are
and stay abreast.
If there's a material failurethat's causing issues, hopefully
they can identify it andresolve the issue.
But otherwise it's a veryfunctional and good gun and you
have to remember we're getting afew hundred reports for one of

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the probably most deployedhandguns in the world.
So between police departments,militaries and everybody else
who's using the 320, there aremillions of these out there and
we're getting using the 320 orare they using like a 229?

(01:10:08):
no 320.
320 is the service handgun ofthe us military at this point.
Um, most uh, a lot of policedepartments have moved from 329,
which I also have, which isn'ttalk about a reliable gun and an
excellent gun, but that'sneither here nor there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
And and yeah, but also we know, how much police
shoot, or rather don't right,but my point is if this was, but
they're bouncing around,they're they are.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
They are rough on you know, if this was a uh non-safe
weapon, we would be seeing alot more of this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
And this is one of the things that I like in the XD
line is their trigger safety,which I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
The grip safety yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Why more guns don't have that, because it seems like
such a simple part.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Well, but again, that is so.
There are two different typesof safeties that we need to, and
this is something that a lot ofpeople misunderstand.
Like a Glock has a ton ofsafeties in it but it doesn't
have a manual safety to keep youfrom pulling the trigger.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Right the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
XD has a manual safety to keep you from pulling
the trigger on the grip.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Not mine.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
What do you mean?
The grip safety, when you grabthe grip, the back?

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
strap, oh, the back strap of the grip.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it has that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Glock technically has one with that little dingus at
the bottom of the trigger, rightRight when the trigger has to
be pulled in a certain way.
Yeah, but you know your 1911,your so a great example would be
the M1A.
Right, the M1A has that littlelever.
Or an AK that has that littlelever, the AR-15, those are not

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drop-safe safeties.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Yeah, those are just disconnects.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
They are just to prevent you from pulling the
trigger.
The AR-15, for example, has afree-floating firing pin.
If you bounce an ar-15 with around in the chamber, hard
enough it will go off, yeah,absolutely with striker fired
pistols, you actually have a lotof blocking mechanisms that
prevent that pin, that firingpin, from being able to move

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because it's held captive, it'sheld under pressure and you, you
have these safeties in place.
So I think a lot of people aremaking a lot to do about nothing
, without really understandinghow firearms function, and
they're assuming oh, my AR-15 issafe, this is safe, this is
good.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
You need to really understand what we're talking
about here.
To get it, it's not a safetythat you flip a switch on and
now the gun is active becausethat doesn't really exist.
Let's be honest, like even onthe m17, the safety that is
involved with the um, theshooter, the thumb safety, all

(01:12:57):
that is is really stopping thetrigger bar from moving.
Yeah, all the drop safety stuffis totally separate.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
And I actually trust the safeties on the Glock or an
XD more than I do on the 45 witha manual safety Because of how
they function Well, partlybecause I know myself, and I
know that it's a fidget toy I'mgoing to play with the safety on
off, on, off, on off, andnothing good is going to come
out of that, because it's goingto be in safe mode when I think
it isn't and it's going to be inunsafe mode when I think it's

(01:13:35):
on, and so I prefer my gun tohave a safety that I don't fuck
with, it's just they're in thegun, multiple safeties
preferably, and the backstrap isa good example of a safety.
It's like, hey, if somebodyisn't holding the gun, how about
don't shoot?

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
sure seems reasonable but again, that's just a
trigger disconnect safety hasnothing to do with the drop safe
side of things.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
But but again, it's like the, the more sort of
automation that you have thatdoesn't interfere with quick
operation of the weapon.
Uh, I'm going to be 10 tend tobe in favor of because, uh,
we've all seen the videos I have.

(01:14:21):
I'm sure you have as well.
I used to play all these videosback when I was a fireman
firearms instructor of umnegligent discharges, and
especially by cops and firearmsinstructors.
Those were the two favoritegroups of negligent discharges.
I'm sure you've seen the videoof the big black dude coming to

(01:14:43):
the school talking about guns.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Oh yeah, and shoots himself.
Yeah, yeah, uh, huh.
Well, look, negligentdischarges happen with a certain
frequency.
Yeah, I do not see an increasein that frequency with the p320.

(01:15:06):
That's my entire point here andyou know I, I, and maybe there
is some truth to it and maybeI'm just heading the sand wrong.
Yeah, but like I said I, youknow this gun is a few years old
.
I've got over 5 000 roundsthrough it.
I'm getting close to that pointwhere I'm probably going to

(01:15:26):
swap out the barrel.
And the reason why I'm going toswap out the barrel isn't
through, it's just worn the hellout but because maybe I want to
put a comp on there, maybe Iwant to do something else and
you know hey.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Well, that could be, I think, like anything else,
like the hot coffee atMcDonald's that gets spilled on
just the wrong person all of asudden, like the whole industry
has to change.
So I think it probably is muchless of an issue.
If it's not a completenon-issue, at least it's a much

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lesser issue than people wouldmake it sound like it is well,
now that we beat that to deathyeah, what else you?
we kind of have.
Uh, let's see, what else do wenot talk about?
I think I don't know um,nothing really techy on my end.

(01:16:27):
I don't think I haven't boughtany guns for a while, which has
been all you for quite a whilehere my last one was the Carmel
um.
Have you even shot it yet?

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
no, I haven't shot it so we gotta definitely get you
out to where you can go shootingyeah, no, we'll do that, for
sure um lots of people withoutpower throughout the us.
I don't know if you saw that no, I didn't really yeah, the
storm that blew through hmm, itfrom texas to the canadian

(01:17:05):
border man.
There was a lot ofthunderstorms that knocked a
bunch of stuff out.
Iowa got hit real hard reallyokay.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
That's um.
Yeah, that's not good whenyou're in cold weather.
I was talking to a guy ingermany today and, um, it was um
10 below zero out there ah,fuck that that's what I said.
Like how do you live there?
In germany now now let me askyou like move to greece or

(01:17:35):
something?

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
yeah, well, there's that, but are you sure he wasn't
talking celsius?
No, it was celsius, yeah 10below celsius.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Yeah, okay, well, that's that, but are you sure he
wasn't talking Celsius?
No, it was Celsius.
Yeah, 10 little.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Celsius.
Yeah, okay, well, that's better.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Well, yeah, it's better, but it's still cold,
colder than I want to be here inAustin, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Yeah, but I mean it's only 14 degrees Fahrenheit,
yeah, but when it's like it'schilly when it's 30 degrees
Fahrenheit.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
It's only 14 degrees Fahrenheit, yeah, but when it's
like it's chilly when it's 30degrees Fahrenheit, it's too
fucking cold.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
All right, you're just a wuss, but it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I'm not a wuss.
I've had all the cold weather Iwill ever have for the rest of
my life.
Don't need it anymore, okay.
Good for you yeah, don't don'tneed the cold weather, so, but I
, uh I do enjoy pointing out topeople that they live in shitty

(01:18:32):
climates.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Well, you know, germany is rearming.
You saw that yeah yeah, andthey literally said we have
relied too much on the US fortoo long.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Not just rearming, but they're talking about
reinstituting the draft for thefirst time since World War II.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Well, and they're changing around their
constitution so they can take onmore debt in order to do this.
Lots, of, lots of things, man,um uh.
I think if we pull out ofeurope, europe will very quickly
devolve into war, and yeah, I'm, I'm ready for us to do it?
I'm.
I'm gonna lose a bet todaybecause we haven't pulled out of

(01:19:18):
nato, and it pisses me off liketoday.
You said it would happen bytoday uh, I said we'll do it in
a couple of weeks a couple ofweeks ago and you know I didn't
say a date, but uh, you know I'mbeing held to a tighter term
than I would have uh agreed toin.
Uh, you know, had we reallylined it out.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
But that's okay, it's okay I think it's going to be a
a long process and, uh, with alot of lawsuits preventing us
from doing it.
Um, so I do you think treatytreaties are signed by congress,
right?
Yes so the president can'treally pull us out of nato okay,

(01:20:04):
so I I there is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
There are clauses in the nato treaty on how to uh
leave nato there actually isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
I read the damn thing that this is the stupidest
treaty ever, because what itsays is disputes shall be
settled by what do they call itessentially?
Negotiations.
They're avoiding havingexplicit instructions on what to
do if a certain situationarises.

(01:20:37):
Even when you're talking aboutthe mutual defense commitment,
there's still a way to weaselout of that if you claim that it
causes undue hardship on yourcountry.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
No, so you're wrong on this, because Article 13 of
the NATO treaty allows for anotice of denunciation that
you're formally leaving it andthat uh must be uh submitted to
the united states as thequote-unquote depository state

(01:21:12):
and then uh membership ceasesafter one year waiting period uh
, really, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
I don't recall that I read through it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
13, you said that's what the google and wikipedia
are saying.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Yes, withdraw from nato.
Well, I wouldn't trustwikipedia, I mean google, I
would trust a little more.
But uh, I wouldn't trustWikipedia, I mean Google, I
would trust a little more.
But uh, well, anyway, I was onNATO's own website.
I read through the whole damnthing.
I did not see any way foranybody to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Okay, yeah, nato treaty.
Leaving is the search term Iused.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
So historical context France in 1966 withdrew from
NATO.
Integrated military commandremained a member of NATO
alliance.
So on, legal hurdles for the US.
The 2024 National DefenseAuthorization Act includes a
provision, section 1250A, thatrequires two-thirds of the

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Senate vote to withdraw from thepresident.
Two-thirds of the Senate tovote that the president can't,
uh.
Two-thirds of the senate tovote uh, that the president
can't.
So there is a, the ndaa is alaw, but that law doesn't bind
the president.
Like there will be a lawsuitover this that congress can't
say, well, we want to have thisauthority over you and it be a

(01:22:56):
law that is extra constitutional, that actually binds the
president.
Like that, that can't happen.
Either you believe in a unitaryexecutive or you don't.
Like you cannot have it bothways here.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
You know what I mean.
I know what you mean, but Idon't know the president, Like
if the Congress can sign atreaty.
I don't know the president,Like, if the Congress can sign a
treaty, I don't know thepresident can cancel it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
It depends on the terms of the treaty and the
entire purpose of the treatyclause in the Constitution is to
prevent the president fromengaging in treaties that would
bind the states.
That's why it's two-thirds ofthe Senate that require the
ratification of a treaty, and atreaty has the same level of law

(01:23:49):
enforcement and capability.
It becomes the law of the land,ie the Constitution, so a
treaty.
One way to, for instance, banall guns and the left has looked
at this and nullify the SecondAmendment, would be to engage in
a treaty that says we will do X, y and Z because it would.
Now, whether or not the peoplewould accept it, that's a whole

(01:24:10):
other thing, but what it comesdown to is if Congress passed a
law and said the president shallnot have the power of veto, or
the president shall not have thepower of veto, or the president
shall not have the power topardon, that doesn't stop the
president from having thosepowers, because the
congressional law does notsupersede the Constitution.
And anyway we have to havepeople who well, congress passed

(01:24:37):
a law.
They did this.
That's irrelevant.
People do not think or applythe right level of analysis to
items far too often in oursociety.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
be my point yeah, that's definitely the case, I I
agree I, I don't know man, I, Ithink, as with a lot of things
around the current situation inUkraine, I think US extricating

(01:25:08):
itself from NATO is very much ahot potato that is going to
result in a lot of pushback thatwill delay and delay and delay
things, even if Trump wanted todo it.
I think a better way for Trumpto go is to do what he kind of

(01:25:32):
hinted at, which is startcharging a fee for NATO and then
having other countries leave,because if NATO is like the US
and Canada and that's it,there's not a point to having it
.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Yeah well, canada is going to get those French nukes,
and then we'll see what happens?

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Yeah, they'll have the French nukes exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
By the way, did you see the outcome of the Greenland
elections?

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Yeah, that was pretty exciting I don't know a single
person that I saw in the videosI don't know jack shit about
their politics, but I think theyhave what?
60 000 people there yeah, um,and apparently a good chunk of
them voted conservative uh votedconservative, pro-business and

(01:26:23):
uh you know pretty and prettypro-independence and potentially
even US yeah which is very cool, and I know that Trump's kids
have been there both of them, Ithink so that's probably helping
.
Trump has more than two kidsdude the eric and uh junior is

(01:26:45):
the one, the two that I'mthinking of, because I've seen
videos of both of them out there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Yep well, so I don't know I, I think, the odds of us
getting something like that, oryou know I, yeah, I would love
to see that happen.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
but the problem with that is if, let's say, they gain
independence and then they voteto join the US, well, how's the
US going to oppose the easternparts of what was Ukraine that
voted to join Russia, and howare they going to call that a

(01:27:22):
legitimate then?

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
I don't think I dude, I.
I see nothing but a strong.
I see a Russo American alliancecoming pretty fast.
I really do.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Every country in the world does not want that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Literally.
I agree.
Does not want that.
I agree, yeah, yeah, yes, chinashould be scared shitless of
such an alliance.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
China actually doesn't want it, india doesn't
want it, the Middle East doesnot want it, israel sure as fuck
doesn't want it there are nocountries that want Russia and
the US to be on the same side.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
Yes, and this is probably why we should want it
more than basically anythingelse yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Well, the us is the closest country to russia, which
doesn't have a border thattouches of any country, yeah,
alaska, alaska yeah the islandchain there, but it's um I I
think there's so many peoplelike you.
Look at what kind of stuff iscoming out of the woodwork for

(01:28:32):
shutting down the usa id.
If it was perceived by the leftthat us russian relations were
warming, my god, would there bea lot of stuff coming out to try
and prevent that from happening.
Okay, I yeah, I, I, I Okay, Letthem reveal themselves more.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
That's all I can say.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Yeah, yeah, fair enough, but it's just to me it
seems an extremely unlikelyscenario.
Not because people in Russiahate Americans or because
Americans hate Russians, butbecause every other country
doesn't want this.
It's a serious danger to everyother country because between

(01:29:22):
russia and the us, theyliterally becomes a

(01:29:44):
self-sufficient two you cannotfuck with at all.
As long as Russia and the USare perceived as being enemies,
it's much easier for smallercountries to pick a side, switch
a side, fuck around and thenget something out of the other
guys.
Pick a side, switch a side,fuck around and then get
something out of the other guys,and that goes away if the two

(01:30:12):
large countries end up seeingeach other as friendly.
So again, I agree with you, andthat would be a great thing, but
I just can't imagine it everhappening.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
So Mark Ruta just came out and said that NATO
chief says Russia relationsshould be restored post-war.
So Ruta, who we think is kindof our bag boy, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
He's on board so.
I don't know man I think stuffcould shift around pretty quick,
faster than we think it could.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
I'm going to continue being a pessimist.
Damn it, Gene.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Why are you being a pessimist?
Because I'm more right than Iam wrong.
Eh, are you?
I am.
I've calculated this.
It's part of my value.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
You have value.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
The beauty is, you'd be surprised.
The beauty of being morepessimistic is that, even if I'm
wrong, it's a good thing, okay,because it means things are
better than they would likely be.

(01:31:38):
So, yeah, I don't, uh, I don'tknow.
I I would.
I would love to see not justthe war end, but a great
normalization of relationsbetween russia and the us.
But so many people, and reallycountries, not just people would

(01:32:02):
prevent that from happening.
They just can't allow that tohappen.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
You have to have an enemy, and that's the chosen
enemy well, I mean, if the EUkeeps, keeps going, who knows,
it might be them yeah, well, sosomebody, somebody was um this,
uh, something from x, uh,somebody posted a little quib

(01:32:31):
about the uss liberty.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
You, you know what that is right it enlightened me.
So it's a uS ship that wasattacked by Israel in 1968.
Yes, and you know.
Basically a one sentencedescription of the incident,

(01:32:56):
followed by, oh, most friendlynation, huh.
With friends like this, whoneeds enemies?

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Yeah, I don't friends like this.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
who needs enemies?
Yeah, I don't disagree.
Well, you'd be a moron then,because that was my reply to the
guy and I said, okay, so howmany people died during that
incident?
37.
37 Americans died.
37.

(01:33:31):
37 Americans died during a warthat Israel had, where it was
attacked by four differentcountries at the same time.
That happened during thatactual war.
And you know, sometimes in warthings don't go according to
plan and civilians get hurt andsometimes other militaries
apparently get hurt.
And for something that happenedin 1968 that killed 37

(01:33:53):
americans, we're going to besaying, yeah, that's not a,
that's not a friend to the US,that's a bad country.
How many Americans died fromGermany, our great partner in?

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Europe and a member of NATO.
Yeah, I disagree with thissentiment 434,000.
So I disagree with thissentiment.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
How many died in Japan fighting the Japanese, our
great friends in the West?
Nobody is suggesting that weought to terminate relationships
with Japan or Germany.
Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
I don't think we should terminate relationships
with Israel.
I don't think that this shouldbe a major impact to our
relationship at this point, butat the same time, we've got to
call a spade a spade and not act.
I think we should be actingvery cautious towards a lot of

(01:35:01):
countries now.
Japan and germany havecapitulated largely, but they're
that's changing and we need tobe aware of it.
Um israel, you know I'm sureyou'll call me anti-semitic, but
I just I.
I think false flags happen allthe time.

(01:35:22):
We've seen that with the war inUkraine.
Do I blame them for doing whatthey're doing?
No, they were trying to survive.
They're trying to do X, y, zFine, but let's not act like
there's some great ally of oursthat has always just helped us
and done the right thing by usbecause they haven't, and it's
okay.
They've done the right thing bythemselves because they haven't

(01:35:43):
, and it's okay.
They've done the right thing bythemselves, and there's nothing
wrong with that, but let's notpretend that they're doing
something by us, yeah well, Iguess that's the the difference
there versus germany is I didn'tsay they were.
You're making a comparison thatI don't think needs to be made.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
My point is that comparing the countries that we
have relationships with and thenthat showing a completely
disproportionate negativeattitude towards Israel is why
I'm making the comparison,because if you, if you look,

(01:36:25):
there's plenty of stuff you cansay that somebody doesn't like
about Israel.
That's fine.
But to somehow look at Israelas being a bad country for the
US to have as a friend is areally hard thing to sell,
because a lot of America's dirtyactivities in the Middle East

(01:36:48):
were actually carried out byIsrael.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Yeah, which is not a good thing, but you go on.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
Well, it isn't a good thing, because we don't like
our country acting that way, butthis wasn't Israel doing it on
their own behalf.
This was Israel doing it onbehalf of America.
Yeah, I gotcha Doesn't makesense, so it's like the
definition of a friend isn'tsomebody who has high morals and

(01:37:16):
won't do the things you wantthem to do.
The definition of a friend issomebody that will absolutely
break the law for you and onyour behalf, because they're
your friend okay this is this.
The question somehow getstranslated into like what's the

(01:37:38):
most moral country in the world?
Well, probably iceland.
You know, a country we havenothing to do with.
It isn't going to be Israel andsure as fuck isn't going to be
the United States.
The number of wars we've beenin Agreed.
So you know, if we're not clean, I kind of think our friends
are going to be not clean.

(01:37:59):
And the closer a friend theyare, the more not clean they're
going to be, are going to be notclean and the closer to friend
they are, the more not cleanthey're going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
Yeah Again, I am not going to champion one way or the
other here, because I just Ithink we're not being a very
good friend to Israel by justsending them money.
I think that needs to stop.
I think they need to beself-sufficient.
I think you would even agreewith that I totally agree.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
I've been saying that forever lot of israelis say
that they don't want to beinfluenced by america because
believe in that they wouldprefer to be more, uh,
independent and make their owndecisions about what kind of
dirty business they're going toget involved in.
You know, there there's a um,there's a just straight sort of

(01:38:48):
nationalism that trump very muchespouses, and I think a lot of
countries have, uh, notnationalism in the nazi sense,
but nationalism in the sensethat I like my country, I want
to support what my country does,but that doesn't automatically
carry over to friends of mycountry.
And I think this is what a lotof people are kind of doing with

(01:39:13):
Israel.
Is they're saying look, I loveAmerica, I don't like Israel,
and there's absolutely nothingwrong with saying that.
But somehow pointing to anincident that everybody admitted
was a mistake, including Israel, and paid money in compensation
to the families for the deaths,that happened 50 years ago over

(01:39:36):
50 years ago in fact andcompletely glossing over the
fact that we've spent tons ofamerican lives dealing with
japan and germany, to me justdoesn't balance the equation
it's it's like ignoring in thesun it's like I know you don't,
I'm just saying I I have thiscomments in uh in x, so I was

(01:39:59):
writing about it because it'sasinine.
It's like you're going to becomplaining about the uh, the
person that jaywalked, whilecompletely ignoring somebody
that caused a car accident.
Uh, you know, and and ignoringthat and and you're going to go
after the jaywalker.
Okay, you're going to go afterthe jaywalker okay, there's my

(01:40:24):
rant that I had on x gene's rantof the day.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
By the way, I do think uh darren had a good idea.
You do need to start a showcalled the gene pool I, I'd love
that title.
I, I wish I would like youshould have already bought the
domain.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
The gene pool.
I don't know if that'savailable, but yeah, it is
actually a great title.
I think the comparisons to TimPool would definitely pop up.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
I'd have to start wearing a beanie, I think.
Well, I mean, your picture onyour Zoom is already that, so
that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
It's not a beanie, but okay.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
How is that not a beanie?

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
It's supposed to be like a knight's helmet.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
It's not a beanie, it's cloth.
No, it's supposed to be metalman, the way that I described
the image to the ai, it wasmetal okay, well, it's a beanie,
sorry well maybe it looks like,but it's definitely not a
beanie.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
Why would I have a beanie on my head?
I?

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
you know what I'm gonna?
I'm gonna take a screenshot andI'm gonna post this on twitter
and let people decide if it's amedia or not.
Like, come on.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
You do that.
That's a good prank.
But I have been watching TimPool and he is very much like on
fire right now.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
What did you watch?
Because I didn't watch theFriday show yet yet.
Or the culture war, uh I don'twatch.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
I actually only watched tim's morning show at
this point okay, and uh, whatdid, uh, what did you?
See?
well, he's talking about theviolence of uh, the left yeah
the ramping up, the increase,the normalization of violence,
all the shit that we've beentalking about.
For you know, not on the show,but like I, you and I have been

(01:42:26):
talking to each other.
We've been talking to ourfriends, and for decades,
literally, it's like the leftdoes not respect life.
It starts there.
When you don't respect life,violence is not out of the
question.
We saw it in Black Lives Matter.
we saw it in black lives matterwe saw it with covid, we saw an

(01:42:49):
escalation to violence happeningas a result of someone saying
words they didn't like yeahwe've most recently seen it with
the, the preferred uh clothingchoices, aka trans.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
Yeah, people praising Luigi Mangione.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
Yeah, exactly, and it's like that jump to violence
happens very quickly for peopleand it all starts with a lack of
respect for life I mean, it'salmost like this country really
needed to be a christian countrywell in order to function I I

(01:43:30):
think maybe a moral christiancountry, yes, exactly of immoral
christians an educated, moralcountry with a religious tent
yes, unfortunately yes, likethat is what our system of
governance was I I sayunfortunately, and we've talked
about this because I think itshouldn't have to.

(01:43:51):
People should have the abilityto be moral without relying on
some kind of stories and fairytales.

Speaker 2 (01:43:56):
Yeah, but that's not real, that's how that's not real
.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
I know, I know I mean that I agree that that's.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
Even if you take the bible and say, well, you know
it's stories or whatever youdismiss it as and you look at
okay, well, why are thosestories relevant and why did
they become what?

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
they are.
There's a reason for that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater here
.

Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
Yeah, yeah, and that this is, this is definitely
something and again, you and Ihave talked not on the show
about, but that I would disagreewith that until I was probably
about 40, 42, and then I Ichanged my mind.
It was like, yeah, I don't, Idon't think that people as a

(01:44:42):
broad, general spectrum of allIQ levels and backgrounds, I
don't think that they can havemorals without having religion.
It just empirically it, it itdoesn't work and um, and so,

(01:45:02):
yeah, I mean it's when, when,when reality points something
out to you, it's hard not to uhagree with it well, I'm glad
you're coming along did youfinish the screw tape letters no
, I need to do that.
It's still just like sixchapters.
But yeah, I've had other things.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Yeah, I've got a chapter left in the Peterson
book.

Speaker 1 (01:45:25):
And then you start on my book.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
Yep, and I start on fancies and whatever it's called
.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
Nights, good Nights, yeah, which is such a weird
title, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
It is, it is, and that's one of the things that I
like about it.
It's kind of peculiar.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
Yeah, and it's just out of print Like crazy not easy
to find, no right.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
It is a little nuts.
Well and when we meet and thiswe have talked about we've got a
bunch of stuff for each other.
Yes, I've got a box sitting onmy stairs, yeah, yeah, and I
don't have a box, but I shouldprobably put everything into one
box, so I don't forget anything, because I've got a variety of
souvenirs and items for you,including that Civil War book.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
Ah, very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:46:16):
Which you know we've had in our family since the 70s.
So I think you'll greatly enjoythat, and I'm sure your, your
parents probably like looking atit too yeah, absolutely cool
beans dude?
I don't know.
I'm sure there's stuff thatI'll forget, but as we mentioned
the beginning of the show, I'mgoing on mostly not sleep.

(01:46:39):
Uh, I think I've actually sleptfor about two hours in the last
24 yeah, you, you need to gorest like close the blinds, you
know yeah it's not just rest,it's just, you know, when you
sometimes you lay in bed and youlook at the ceiling and you're
like, okay, let's just fallasleep, and and then you think

(01:46:59):
about all kinds of stuff, andthen you look at your watch and
it's like, ah, like an hour haspassed and I still haven't
fallen asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
So take some Tylenol PM or.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Sudafed or.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
Benadryl or whatever.
That just knocked you the hellout.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
Maybe I'll take some of this.
What do you call this stuff?
The methylene blue.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Yeah, that's a stimulant.
That's the opposite of what youknow.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
But I, but I kind of like it so hey, yeah, maybe oh
you think maybe that's why I'mnot sleeping maybe I hadn't
really thought of that, but itis it's.
It's a combination of nicotine,caffeine, methylene blue and
CBD.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Yeah, it's interesting.
I heard you talk to Darrenabout it and I was looking at it
.
Yeah, it sounds vaguelyaddictive Vaguely, I don't know,
man, you might want to chillout on that until you get some
good night's sleep and see whathappens.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
But I'll tell you what it clears up the fog like
nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
Did you ever try Brain Force and stuff like that?

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
Alex Jones yeah, adam gave me a bunch of that stuff.
When he went on the show hebrought a box back.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
Yeah, so Brain Force, alpha Brain, there's several
different little nootropics thatuses mushroom extract.
Yeah, yeah, but the nootropicswork, and there's you know,
things are good.
I don't know if I'll try theethylene blue or not, because it
seems a little much.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Oh, make sure you don't try ethylene blue.
You try methylene blue, becausethe ethylene blue will kill you
.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
Yeah, I miss misspoke , I'm so sorry, I'm trying to
make a joke about that yeah,anyway, um, but uh, I saw the
you know, 30 bucks for x numberof doses.

Speaker 1 (01:48:52):
It's not cheap, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
No, it's about 150 bucks a month if you're doing it
every day, which I don't thinkis the intention.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
How else else would you?

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
do it as needed.
You need it every day.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
Okay, it says the guy who's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
two hours of sleep.
Yeah, that's the only downsideof this side effect is you just
stop sleeping.
Yeah, like no dude, I think ifyou.
Oh man, I'm kind of groggy thismorning.
Let me do a touch of this thenthat's fine, but if you're doing
it regularly and every day,this may be why you're not

(01:49:31):
sleeping.

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
Yeah, maybe I should take a pause.
Yeah, yeah, we'll see, we'llsee.
I am taking a whole ton ofdifferent supplements right now,
so it's hard to even figure outwhich one's doing what.
Well, I think I'm doing like 32supplements every morning.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
How do you not have a chronically just screwed up
digestive system?

Speaker 1 (01:49:57):
Used to it.
Okay, yeah, they all havepositive benefits, it's just
sure thing, yeah.
So um, let's wrap up before wekeep babbling all right, we'll
talk to you later all right,we'll see you next week.

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