111 Just Two Good Old Boys

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How are you, ben?
How are you today?
I'm doing well, gene Yourself.
All right, all right, man,another week.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
It has been another week, that's true.
Are you referring to your weekor Trump's?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
week, mainly my week, but Trump had a pretty
interesting week.
Which week isn't interestingfor Trump?
Pete Hegg says announcementlast night was pretty
interesting.
Which one?
Immediately terminating $580million in DOD contracts?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Oh, I didn't hear that Really.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, yeah.
He announced last night thatthey were terminating $580
million in DOD contracts.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Wow, so all the Ukraine support staff is going
home.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
I don't know, but they also approved the next-gen
fighter, so we've got thatselected now Went to Boeing.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh no, what yeah, boeing sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Okay, yeah, I got no dog in that hunt man between
Boeing and Lockheed.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, it's Well, I don't know if there's
alternatives.
I mean, let's be honest, but no.
Yesterday, in fact, on my othershow with Darren and his other
brother, Darren, darren and hisother brother Darren, we kind of
recounted what happened inBoeing to end up where Boeing is

(01:30):
today, which is essentiallytaking a company that had a
culture of reinvesting into R&Dand rewarding engineering into a
company where a lot ofengineers retired and left and
it can't attract good engineersanymore.
Yeah, but yeah, I mean, it'salways cool to see development

(01:56):
of new hardware.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I think this program will be interesting.
By the way, the Lockheed planealso was revealed.
Okay, and it was totally theDark Star, oh really, yeah.
Well, that's cool, but the newBoeing I guess it's going to be
the F-47, is a prettyinteresting plane.

(02:21):
I just sent you an articlethough the uh dod cuts okay uh,
but anyway, since you didn'tread about them, you know
whatever, but no, I did notwhat's the lockheed one called
uh, it was just this in gadfighter uh program.

(02:44):
But um, so you had the boeingone which kind of looks like uh,
a b2 met a f-22 raptor.
So it's very flat no tail fins,no vertical, no vertical
control surfaces.
Very very different.

(03:09):
So yeah, and then the Lockheedone had vertical control
surfaces and looked like theDark Star.
From what was that?
Top Gun 2.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Mm-hmm.
Well, you knew they had accessto stuff.
Obviously, yeah, because I mean, let's face it, there's a video
that talked about the Okay.
A video started playing atBoeing Okay.
I watched that and talked abouthow, basically, the original

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Top Gun was in a large degreeproduced by the Navy.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, yeah, it was a recruitment video.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Exactly exactly video .
Exactly exactly so.
Obviously, the access grantedand, uh, the wanting to show off
tech even before it's announcedwas very much part of the
second one.
Yeah, I, I like cool lookingplanes.
I've always liked cool lookingplanes.

(04:21):
Every time I I've been to DC, Ialways stop at the National Air
and Space Museum.
Yeah, the Smithsonian Basicallythe Smithsonian's Airplane
Hangar Museum.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, so the entire concept behind the F-47 is that
it's going to have manned andunmanned versions and basically
virtual wing men.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, there's a few movies about that in the past,
which we'll see how that goes.
Yeah, well, I think the natureof warfare has obviously changed
.
We've seen that in Ukraine,where $100,000 weapons get
destroyed by $1,600 drones.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, but we haven't seen two peers going at it, Like
we have not had peer warfaresince World War II.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know if I'd go
quite that far.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Name a conflict where we've had peer warfare.
Well, ukraine, ukraine is not apeer to Russia.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Ukraine isn't a war with Russia.
The United States is.
Yeah, well We've seen proxyvideos I've seen.
I've sent you some links here.
If you actually watch thevideos, there's no such thing as
ukrainian weaponry.
There's american weaponry, andand all the weaponry being used

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against russia was well, Ishouldn't say all about 80% was
manufactured in the US and 20%in Europe from countries like
Belgium and stuff that have aheavy weapons industry.
There is nothing that isUkrainian that is used in that
war.

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At the beginning of the war,there were ancient Soviet
weapons being used by Ukraine,but they ran out of those in the
first six months.
So really for the next twoyears, two and a half years, uh
it's, it's been purely us andEuropean weaponry being used.
I mean again, good luck, justwatch any video and show me a

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weapon that's actually Ukrainianor, at this point, soviet.
They don't exist on thatbattlefield right now, but
luckily for Ukraine, the use ofsmall drones has enabled a sort

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of I don't know what you'd callit.
It's not really asymmetricwarfare, but it's a warfare that
negated the advantage ofarmored warfare.
The drone is just a smart umexplosives delivery system we

(07:31):
can argue about how smart, butsure, well, most of them are
human controlled, so human smartthey're not.
They're not running autonomouslyout there and the latest thing
is you except you've got jammingcapabilities and everything
else.
That's where I was going isyeah, jamming doesn't work
anymore because, as uh as I know, we've talked about it the the
latest generation of drones fromboth sides russia and ukraine

(07:55):
are all fibroctic they'rerunning cables can, yeah the
control, uh, wires, notnecessarily all fiber, but yeah,
um.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
And the interesting thing there is the return to
trench warfare and the bestanalysis I've seen is when
someone can't get airsuperiority or make a you know,
armored breakthrough because ofwhatever changes in warfare.
That's where we're at andthat's why we devolved back to
world war.
I style trench warfare of justmoving inch by inch.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Well, I think that's not quite true.
I think that is the casebecause either one side or both
sides, depending on who you askis not wanting to escalate, and

(08:50):
I've called this a Slavic civilwar for the entirety of its time
, because the destruction thatwe see, the type of battles that
we see, the type of battlesthat we see and the treatment
that we see of prisoners is moreakin to the American Civil War

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than it is to, let's say, worldWar II.
In World War II, russia didn'ttake prisoners Because that
costs money.
You have to feed them, you haveto, you know, move them around.
It's much easier just to makesure there are no prisoners.
When you're attacking theUnited States, likewise,

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firebombed cities, and not justDresden.
It's a standard practice,because when you want to win a
war against an enemy that you'vedecommunized, you're not going
to be caring about what you'redoing.
You're going to try and stopthem from making any possible
progress by cutting off them atthe home front by cutting off

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them at the home front.
That type of behavior didn'thappen during the American Civil
War because it was a war ofbrother versus brother.
Likewise, that type of behavioris not happening for the most
part.
There are certain pockets ofthat happening in Ukraine,

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pockets of that happening in uhin ukraine.
But once the majority of thenazi units have been rounded up
at the beginning of the war, um,I think that on both sides what
you're seeing is a we reallydon't want to be here and we
understand that our commandershave told us to fight, but there
isn't a sort of dehumanizationtaking place.

(10:51):
That has happened in previouswars, in large-scale wars, and
this is really a lot more likethe, the fighting that you see
when governments get overthrown.
So I don't want to say, or Iwouldn't quite agree with what
you said is that we've devolvedto trench warfare.

(11:12):
I think we're in trench warfarebecause neither country and
maybe you could say ukraineisn't even capable of it, but
neither country has escalatedthe use of weapons of mass
destruction.
Could Russia have completelyflattened Kiev?
Absolutely, they have not usedweapons to do that, because on

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the land to the east theyconsider that Russian territory,
so they want the least amountof destruction possible.
They just want to pushukrainian troops out of there
and on the land to the west,which russia isn't claiming,
they're still not willing tojust go for mass destruction of

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infrastructure, and I shouldn'tsay infrastructure, mass
destruction of cities, and I Ishouldn't say infrastructure,
mass destruction of cities.
And I think, again, that hasmore to do with the fact that
almost everybody in Ukraine hasa relative in Russia and almost
everybody in Russia has arelative in Ukraine.
And while the war couldn't beseen as a just thing, I think

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for most Russians, given what'shappened, and in Ukraine
obviously it's a war for whatthey see as their territory.
But I don't think either side,maybe other than Zelensky
himself, has a mortal hatred forthe other.
Zelensky himself has a mortalhatred for the other.

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So again, I see this a lotcloser to the Civil War in the
US, and the trench warfare ispart of that behavior, because
the escalation to larger weaponslike tactical nukes has not
happened.
But it's not to say they don'texist.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
So what do you think of the partial ceasefire that we
have?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I think it's similar to the one that was in Gaza and
Israel, meaning I don't thinkit's going to last.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
So what end do you see to this?

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Well, I think the end Trump is on the right path here
.
I think the end is going to bemaking this be more productive
and more rewarding to end thanto continue the war Like that.
That has to be an end goal.

(13:52):
Um, you know, we've beenhearing for three years that
Ukraine's winning and Russia'son the brink of a revolution,
and Putin's about to be eitherhe'll die from cancer or he's
going to get overthrown.
What we actually have hadhappening, if you pay attention
to the channels that review thedaily war maps, is we've had a

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slow advancement of Russia forprobably about a year and a half
, followed by a very strongpushback by ukraine for about
three months, and then anotherlow, uh advancement by russia
after that.
So has russia lost territorythat originally gained?

(14:39):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (14:41):
well, and you know, the ukrainians did make a push
into Russia proper as well.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's true too.
They did make a push intoRussia proper, which I think
worked against them, frankly.
But you know, I don't knowwho's calling the shots over
there.
It's hard to say how much of itis being driven by Zelensky and
we saw what he is, his level ofcompetency and how much of it

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is just being done by themilitary staff that they have.
But, yeah, I think in the endwhat we'll have is a piece that
is not ideal for either country,but acceptable to both ideal
for either country butacceptable to both.
What that means for Russia isthat all the territory that

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voted to be part of Russia endsup in Russia, and the part where
a lot of people are not goingto be happy is that Odessa is
not part of that, because Odessawe've talked about this years
ago.
In fact, you know the history ofOdessa is that it is a city

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that was created about 300 yearsago at the decree of the queen,
and it has historically been anethnically russian city.
Like no polish I shouldn't saythere's zero polish, but you
know it's a city that was alwaysconsidered russian and more

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like other cities deeper intorussia, because it sort of was
created from a, uh, stpetersburg population and it was
a city that was created from aSt Petersburg population, and it
was a city that also supporteda much higher Jewish population
until World War II, and it wasjust a.

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It was not something that Ithought personally would be not
captured, like I thought forsure that the plan for Russia in
the advancement would be totake the entire Southern coast,
including Odessa, and make uh,whatever is left of Ukraine be

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landlocked.
That didn't happen, and they'vecertainly had opportunities to
keep pushing in the south, butthey've been focusing on the
north.
So I don't know, I think that's, in the end, that's probably
what's going to happen is the soyou think Odessa staying is
going?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
to be a concession that the?
I think so.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
It won't be a popular concession with the Russian
population, that's for sure,because, frankly, I think they
care more about Odessa thanKharkov.
You know, yeah, it's like great, yeah, there's Russians.
There are people that feel likethey're Russian, that are
living there.
They don't want to speakUkrainian, they want to continue
speaking Russian.
But you know, in Odessa they'vealways spoken Russian.

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So Odessa is going to be seenas a failure for Putin for not
achieving a victory in gettingOdessa.
As far as other concessions, Ithink things like power grid,
power plants, russia's probablygoing to still be on the hook
for supplying ukraine with a lotof energy, like they used to

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forever.
Um, and they'll make, you knowthey'll, they'll make
concessions to that.
Uh, I think the the completelyunrealistic thought of Zelensky
there or at least what he's beensaying of getting all of the

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territory of Ukraine back,including Crimea.
I mean, nobody ever thoughtthat would happen and I think
reality will set in there thatthe best ukraine can hope for is
a, uh, a partial size with acertain level of of

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autonomousness.
But, um, also, I I thinkobviously the whole reason this
started is no nato, like thereis no peace condition in which
ukraine is part of nato well, Ithink nato is going to dissolve

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I think nato is pretty over anddone with at this point, but
that that's me um we cancertainly hope.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, waste some money well, and I think that
we're.
We're seeing that.
I think the eu has seen thewriting on the wall.
You know, ursula was uh in thenetherlands talking at a
military academy about howEurope cannot be dependent upon
the United States for defenseanymore.

(19:46):
Yeah, cool, great.
Thank you so Well, and I think,I think we're going to see a
lot of big deficit spending outof the EU here shortly.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, I think you're right on that, but it's also
about time.
But certainly if you go back tothe 1950s, 1960s, nobody wanted
Germany to have their ownmilitary.
That was not an option, notbecause Germany didn't want it,

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but because Well, anytimeGermany and France are both
armed.
We know what happens yeahexactly, germany always has
ambitions and, uh, the Frenchare just crazy.
Um, speaking of the French, Iwas watching a uh God, what was

(20:42):
the program?
But it was somebody talkingabout how Macron's wife is a man
.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Oh yeah, was it oh it was Tucker.
That's what it was, oh yeahyeah, and Candace Owens yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Which Candace Owens.
I expect her to say that, right, Okay.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, but I mean I think there's.
I okay, but I mean I thinkthere's.
I'm sorry, but the evidence ofBrigitte Macron being a man is.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
It seems to be quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, it's kind of like hey, look like Michelle
Obama.
We can kind of make some jokeshere and say some things, Even
that I feel like there's somevalidity.
But you know, maybe joan riversis just crazy.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
But the reggie macron thing, dude yeah, I mean like
not having any history and and,frankly, the photo that we see
of michelle obama that's beencirculated of like her in her
senior year high school um,she's got that same face but on
a much smaller body, so I don'tknow how that happens.

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So I still have doubts aboutmichelle as well.
But brigitte, just like there'snothing going back in terms of
photo evidence earlier than whenshe was babysitting her victim,
I mean her husband.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, and that's the other thing.
What person grows up to marrytheir babysitter?

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Okay, what boy doesn't think that in their head
when they're being babysat?
Sure, but actually doing it isthe thing.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I mean it's far more common for the dad to bang the
babysitter and marry him, maybehe was, you never know.
I don't know much about.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Macron's family, so I don't know what kind of a
family he had, clearly a familythat was perfectly fine with all
this situation.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
I don't know, it's weird, but frankly, to me I was
more sort of surprised by thefact that Tucker, of all people,
is talking about it, about itand uh, because he's not really
as conspiracy theoretical as asI.

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I know a lot of other peoplethat I watch, for example, but
you know, candace owens is kindof like the she's.
She's definitely moved into herniche of being the black alex
jones, like everything is aconspiracy usually involved, but
like she is, very happy beingin that conspiracy arena.

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So, um, yeah, I mean, do you,would you disagree?

Speaker 1 (23:40):
what the conspiracy?
Uh, arena, no, I think she is.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah, well, I know you wouldn't disagree about jews
being involved, that's for sure, but uh, but she is.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I mean jews are involved with the production of
this podcast.
What are you talking about?
Allegedly, allegedly we don'tknow.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I mean at least one the way you've been acting
lately, maybe two anyway.
So candace I think, and I Ilike her in this space.
I think she brings a certainyounger kind of vibe and to the
whole conspiratorial theaterstuff.

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And, uh, I I watched a bunch ofher episodes on digging back
through to um kamala harris'salleged black grandmother and
the non-existence thereof,because it turned out she was a
maid in the house, in in theplantation house, and they

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presented her as her grandmasupposedly.
So there's a lot of stuff thatshe really enjoys going in,
digging for all this stuff.
But I did not expect to seetucker talking about it like
it's a factual thing.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
It's like, oh yeah, that's a man well, I mean, what
does that tell you?
Does it tell you anything not?

Speaker 3 (25:06):
really.
I mean it's entertainment.
It's maybe it's a slow day fortucker.
Maybe that's what it tells meit's like.
does this change anything foranybody if macron's wife is a
dude that you know was apedophile and babysat him?
I mean not really Macron.

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I thought was crazy before allthis Still crazy.
It's amazing to me how both theUK and France, countries which
used to have a tremendous amountof nationalistic pride, which
used to have a tremendous amountof nationalistic pride have
just been slightly bickeringabout things that don't matter,

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while at the same timecompletely handing over their
countries to Muslim invaders.
If you look, there's an ex-postthat listed all of the
Muslimlim mayors in england.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
right now in the uk there's like 12, 12 muslim
mayors I don't think what'swrong with that, what's wrong
with?

Speaker 3 (26:17):
every person a lot, tremendous amount is wrong with
that.
Uh, I don't think the averageperson that I see on jeremy
clarkson's farm is voting for amuslim.
Well, that's why they're aboutto get taxed to death yeah yeah,
they are, and yet that's whoseem to be getting elected more

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and more.
The other stat, which Iactually care less about, but
it's still an interesting stat,is that there are over a
thousand mosques in the UK now,and that feels like a larger
number than I would expect.
I figured it'd be about ahundred, but there's a thousand.

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But the context that was in thenumber came up is is a video of
muslims celebrating ramadan byblocking streets and the
commentator saying you know,with this many mosques available
, it is surprising why theywould be doing this outside and

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and blocking streets.
Well, I guess because you knowyou're supposed to be resting
and reading the Quran and notdriving around to work.
So I guess they're doing whatthe expectation would be in any

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other Muslim country, which theUK is quickly becoming.
So I don't know.
I think it's actually too latefor the UK.
I think they've gone over thetipping point.
I don't think there's any goingback, because the laws at this
point are reflecting apreemption of what we consider

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Western.
What is the phrase?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
you know western civilization yeah, western
civilization type I don't knowif it's too late or not, because
I I think that there could besome.
Look, I think we are at a pointwhere a violent outcome.
I don't see another option.

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No one's backing down, likewhat we see in the US, is a
perfect example of this.
What I think will eventuallyhappen in the UK is there will
be an uprising.
Now they don't have the meansto do it that we have in this
country but there will be a no,fuck you.
you cannot do this.
You cannot go that far.
But there will be a no, fuckyou.
You cannot do this.
You cannot go that far.

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You are crossing the line.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
No, so I don't know.
They've never had one of those.
Why would they have one?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
They have when, when the Magna Carta got written.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, I knew you were going to go to Cromwell.
No, no.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
No.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
No.
They've never had one.
The nobility, had one with afair amount of civility, to take
power from the king, which theyfailed to actually dispose of
completely.
They still have a king, but thepopulace has been sers and is

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demonstrating that even now theythey have not had that uprising
, and it's one thing say whatyou will about france, but at
least they made use of theguillotine yeah, a little, uh, a
little too much use of theguillotine.
I think maybe appropriate use,but in the UK I'm afraid that

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that island will become astaging ground for continued
further Islamification of Europefurther islamification of
europe, because I think we'regoing to see europeans revolt
against this in large numbers.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I I mean may or may.
I could be wrong.
You know this is how the worldcertainly pushing back this is
how the world ends not with awhimper but with a uh, or not
with a bang, but with a whimper.
Right, that is an option Iguess, yeah, I guess, but it is
not what I would do, and it'snot what I think people are
going to do here in the US.
I am very surprised that wehave not had some pretty major

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violence.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Tesla cars are getting burned left and right,
right, but pushing back.
So, for instance, all the, butthey're doing it in states where
you know they're not likely tobe armed.
So there's that.
But if the, you know, ifsomeone uh got in front of me,
slammed on their, made me stopbecause I was driving a Tesla

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and told me I better sell it,and da-da-da-da-da, and wearing
a bodily clava, and thisactually happened, I'm drawing
my firearm Like no dude, you'renot going to do that to me.
So I don't know, man, I thinkthe whole thing about things

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going kinetic is happening.
I think it's kind ofinteresting that Rudyard
whatever his name is from whatEvolved Hist?
He predicted that we'd have athousand deaths by now.
He may have just been off amonth or two on his timeline,
like if this keeps up right.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
So yeah, I don't know yeah the, the tesla stuff is
getting really insane it is yeahwell, and I think the babylon b
is having a blast with it too.
They've had multiple articlesabout tesla stuff now including
uh, now that we're, you know,getting close to passover, uh,

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talking about liberals paintingrainbow flags on their teslas as
a sign that their tesla shouldbe passed over you know, the
story of passover right.
So it's uh, just checking youknow it's.
It's insane, but that is basedon the grain of truth, like I

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guarantee you.
There was at least one personthat actually did that, that
loves his tesla enough to notwant to give it up and at the
same time, is totally liberaland is willing to go paint a
rainbow flag on their car totell others but but I'm a
liberal, so don't hurt my Tesla.
I agree with you.
I believe in violence, just notof my car.

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The other reminder, I think, toeverybody.
Maybe some people wouldconsider it a change.
I don't think it's a change.
I think it's just a reminder ofthe violence of the left.
This, to me, is kind of areturn to the 1970s and what we
saw from the left.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
There's been a lot of comparisons made to the weather
on the ground.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, because to the left, words have always meant
violence.
Like it sounds like a stupidphrase that they say, but it's
one that I believe, that theyactually believe.
That to them, hearing someonesay something offensive and

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replying to that with violenceis completely appropriate in
their minds.
So I guess we shouldn't be toosurprised that that's happening
with tesla's right now, wherethey they've turned on a beloved
company of the left becausethey don't like what its founder

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is doing in the currentadministration.
Um the uh.
The violence to them is just a.
It's another expression, justlike language, just like words
of their feelings, and theirfeelings is what matters the
most to the left, becauseeverything that they accuse the

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right of has to do with hurtingtheir feelings.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Well, and this is where we get um, this is where
we get um.
You know ben shapiro sayingfacts, don't care about your
feelings so, and that's atremendous insult to a lefty
it's like yeah well my feelings.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Don't care about your stupid facts.
I'm going to burn your Tesladown.
So I don't think I'm surprisedthis is happening, but certainly
some people are surprised.
The left is only able tocontrol its violence when
they're treated as children andgiven everything that they ask

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for.
They're treated as children andgiven everything that they ask
for.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Well, I I would argue that pretty much all of the
uprisings that we've had, uh, inthis country for I mean really
the last uprising, if you callit that, that we've had that was
of any sort of conservativemovement, was the civil war, but

(35:27):
since then it has been leftistviolence.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Um, what about david kresh?
What about all these rightistsmarching with their anti-black
slogans?

Speaker 1 (35:40):
um, the closest you could come would be like
charlottesville, but again,there were, there were, there
were three sides atcharlottesville.
So there were the you know,neo-nazis, kkk, that you know,
uh, jews will not replace us,etc.
Etc.
And those people are not whoI'm talking about, because I

(36:01):
consider those, I consider anytotalitarianism like that on the
left, like I don't put Nazis onthe right and communists on the
left, no, they're ontotalitarian versus free, so I
think the spectrum is wrong.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Also, those guys marching with those flags and
banners are nonviolent, thoseguys marching with those flags
and banners are nonviolent.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
What ended up happening is you had also just
people there.
I almost went toCharlottesville to, you know,
protest some of the taking downof the monuments, because I
don't think you should be takingthem down.
No, and you know, but thatdoesn't mean I'm going to go

(36:48):
march in some white supremacistthing by any stretch.
So I think there were severaldifferent things and what ended
up happening is you had Antifacoming out and doing their black
block shit and startingviolence, causing violence, and
then people trying to get away,like the one guy who ran over
people with his car.
If you look at the footage, hewas getting beat up on the way
to his car, he was getting hiscar beaten on and everything

(37:10):
else and he just tried to driveaway as fast as possible and, as
a result, you know, I guess,what do you expect?
You're assaulting someone andthey are trying to flee, and
then someone's in their way.
I just I don't know.

(37:32):
Yeah, yeah, exactly the key,thing, I think is that so again,
I wouldn't say that that wasthe right starting violence
there.
Or when the Proud.
Boys have gone up againstAntifa.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
I don't think that's the right starting violence
there no, I also don't call theproud boys the right either.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
They're not more gay, and that's the thing.
Is the proud boys was a fuckingjoke.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah, yeah, right, hello yeah, that that's like
calling um.
Uh, that gay guy who'spretending to be straight now
like calling him the right HarrySession.
No, that's a lefty gay.
No, the righty gay with theblonde hair.
What the hell is his name?

(38:15):
The British guy.
He's been on TimCast a bunch oftimes.
He still talks like a total gay.
I really.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, I know who you're talkingabout.
Now the name's escaping me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
God, super gay who's now supposedly straight.
Yeah, and we'll think of who itis after we move on to another
topic.
But you know, like he to me wasalways funny because he was
poking at the left and he couldget away with a lot more poking
because he was gay.

(38:59):
That was kind of like it.
It's kind of like it's harderfor leftists to poke back at
somebody who is considered theirtype of darling Right, but I
don't think anybody who is aserious conservative would have
ever seen him as an actualconservative.

(39:21):
He is playing a conservative.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Why can't we think of his name?
He's got a weird name.
The guy who says he's stillattracted to men still has these
desires, but because of hissupposedly finding Christ.
He's not going to do thatanymore.
Yeah, which you know.

(39:50):
Hey, if that's the way you wantto handle it, dude, that's fine
.
That's your business.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah, I just think he's less funny not being
officially gay, that's all.
Yeah, I mean, there issomething a little funny about
gays, right?
Okay, if we had a show openerwell, I you know, men who act

(40:17):
female, not feminist, butfeminine men who act feminine,
they can.
You know, they're a littlefunny.
But not all homosexuals actthat way, I know, but I'm just
talking about the ones that do.
I mean, look, there areprobably gay people that you'd
never know are gay.
Okay, that's certainly a thing,gene are you finally coming out

(40:42):
?
Am I finally coming out?
Am I finally coming out?
The only thing I'm coming outof is my house to drive to the
grocery store.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
That's about it you don't even do that, you haven't
delivered.
Don't even lie, no, I have food.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Well, I do have groceries delivered sometimes
too, but occasionally I do needto drive to pick up stuff that
isn't deliverable.
What are you getting?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
that's not deliverable.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
You know, dude, the one-off stores you can't get
delivery from.
It's just the big chains thatdo delivery.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
I mean, there's always like Favor and stuff like
that.
I'm surprised you don't usethat Well.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
I technically do use Favor because I buy from HEB and
Favor is their company, they dodelivery.
But I don't use favor because Ibuy from H-E-B and favor is
their company, they do delivery,but I don't use favor app for
stuff.
I don't know why.
I've ticked Pookie, just stuckwith Uber, and Uber does deliver
from a number of chain storesbut not uh, not one off stores

(41:43):
Like I'm a co-op here, Anyway,anyway, yeah, yeah, I need my
co-op miso.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Milo Yiannopoulos, by the way.
That's the guy.
It finally came to me.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Milo, because it's a crazy name, right, right, yeah,
milo.
Nobody names their kid Milounless they want him to be gay.
Let's face it.
Oh, hello.
Okay, my mom, not police, isGreek, which, let's face it, gay
well, you know, I mean, thatwas a thing back then they were

(42:21):
going to two factors goingagainst him from childhood and
the third factor was a priestwas diddling him yeah, and he's
even uh admitted to that, hasn'the's?
talked about it.
He didn't think that that was abad thing, until people pointed
out uh, yeah, you were abusedas a child.

(42:43):
He's like, no, I wasn't.
Yeah, you were abused as achild.
He's like, no, I wasn't.
Yeah, you were.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
But he's still a Catholic.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Well, I don't know what to say.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
He's still gay is what I say Still gay Okay still
gay okay.
I am scheduling my Windowsupdate to restart next.
Friday so that way I'll have afresh reboot for the show see,
think it ahead.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Why don't you just set up a task that does that
every Friday, just reboots, evenif there's no update?
Why would I want to do that soyou have a clean, fresh PC on a
regular basis?

Speaker 1 (43:33):
You know it's funny because my Linux systems I don't
have to do that with.
Well, yeah, obviously, but yeah.
I don't know, man, windows 11.
The last good version ofWindows was really Windows 7.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Yeah, I'm okay with 10.
I mean, I've been running 10for like 10 years now.
10's okay.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
But 10 crossed some boundaries for me.
You know, like always sendinginformation and shit to
Microsoft, no matter whatsettings you do, and even if you
go through and harden thesettings, next time an update is
applied you have to go back andredo them.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
That is annoying.
I will say the changing of thesettings when it's doing an
update is bullshit.
Did you hear speaking ofsecurity-related topics?
Did you hear that Amazon hasupdated their security privacy
policy for the?
For Alexa, yeah, alexa's.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
They are now going to use your audio recordings for
ai.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, yeah, basically saying oh, you know that little
setting that says uh, do notsend my voice recordings back
home.
Yeah, that goes away.
Now everything's going toautomatically get sent back home
so you're gonna finally get ridof your alexis I well, I'm
gonna be muting my alexis forsure, um I may be powering down

(44:51):
alexis as well, but I wouldn'ttrust the mute button, dude well
, so here's, yeah, I, I knowwhat you mean, but, um, you know
, the main use I have of my a,my Alexa, is turning the lights
on and off.
The second use of it is an alarmclock.
It's an alarm clock that wakesyou up, tells you the weather,

(45:13):
you know all the stuff that youwant to learn in the morning.
And, um, could I get by withoutAlexis in the house?
Yes, it's a little sad becauseI have three of them in the
house so that any room I'm in Ican give it commands, and I'm
going to have to be reduced tousing my phone's Alexa now for

(45:36):
turning lights on and off.
So you know, the Alexa apprunning on your phone, unlike
normal Alexa's, doesn't have amic on all the time, because
apple wouldn't let them do thatbecause that's a competitive
product anyway, and so you haveto push a button to turn the mic
on.
So now to turn my lights on andoff, I'll have to go in, push a

(45:56):
button, say you know, alexa,turn my lights on, uh, etc.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
It's making my life more complicated, depending on
which version of the Amazon uh,alexa, echo, whatever that you
have.
Um, there are ways to jailbreakand gain root on them.
Okay.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Apparently.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
So and people are working with they're trying to
do alternative firmware to beable to use them with some of
the open source home automationsoftware stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I'll take a look at it, but my short term plan is
going to be at the end of themonth, just to unpower these
things.
So that's sad, because I don'tthink home automation devices,
uh, should be allowed.

(46:52):
Well, they shouldn't be allowedto use your your conversations.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Right your conversations to in your house
what you fight about with yourwife, would you say behind
closed doors, to train an ailike that is so draconian and
stupid or dare I say, very 1984.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Oh hugely.
Your devices in your house willnow report back everything you
say and do.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, yeah, not okay, and I I really hope that
there's some blowback againstthis and they change their mind,
but could be wrong well andlook, there's a solution that
could have worked beneficiallyto them all.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
They have to do the same shit they did with the
kindle and say we're introducingalexa plus.
The alexa plus mode will havethe highest level of privacy
available to any alexa devices.
However, uh, it's going to befive dollars a month, payable in
one year subscription.
So 60 bucks a year all All theregular Lexus will now have.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
The problem is they want, I know they do.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
I know they do.
I'm agreeing with it.
I know they would rather havethe speech to train than the $60
a year.
That's the problem.
But I would pay $60 a year tonot have that turned down.
I mean, it's a stupid thingthat I would have to pay for

(48:31):
privacy from a product I alreadyown.
But I would still probably doit because of the convenience
factor of turning my lights onand off.
So but I'll tell you, what I'mgetting rid of is the amazon
cameras.
Why say don't trust them?

Speaker 1 (48:51):
well, but they're not included in this update.
Who says, well, if you'retalking about the battery
powered ones, there's the theycan't, I mean they can't just
turn on and that you would endup with dead batteries very
quick.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Yeah, no, I've got the non-battery powered one here
.
That's part of my Amazon lock.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Is it Ring or Blink?

Speaker 3 (49:17):
It's neither this actually predates.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
When Amazon bought Ring, okay, for a little while
they had their own brand ofcameras and locks, and then they
bought ring and of course,everything got unified yeah, so
ring and blink are not involvedin this at this point, but yeah
well, and I always sent databack to amazon um, well, you can

(49:41):
opt out of certain things, butyes, uh, it sends data back, but
how they use that data issegmented off, and I've got
Blink cameras at home and I cantell you.
If they end up getting includedin this, I will be getting rid
of them.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
But you don't want Amazon learning how to walk
their robots based on what theysee in your house.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
I don't want them to see me taking a leak in my
backyard at night.
I don't want them to see me uhdeciding hey, your neighbor's
ring sees you doing that?

Speaker 3 (50:17):
no, they don't.
Yeah, well, they might you know.
You have the ring um the ring,outdoor lights.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah, yeah, but I I know what my neighbors have.
All you got to do is go outsideat night with a night vision
goggle and you can see who's gotcameras wear real easy that's
true, yeah, so trust me, I'm I'mno dummy all right, ben, I know
, sometimes you, sometimes youjust present as one, so you
ought to look at Mycroft.

(50:47):
Okay, so Mycroft, brother ofSherlock.
They've got a couple projectsout there that is a replacement
for Alexa and there's peopletrying to use some of the Alexa
hardware.
So, and there's people tryingto use some of the alexa

(51:09):
hardware as because they thereal secret sauce to whether
it's google assistant alexa orany of them is they've got these
microphone arrays in there thatare really pretty good they are
, yeah, well, and and the alexasso I have.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
I have two good Alexas and one cheap-ass Alexa.
The two good ones is I have theoriginal one, which I think I
paid about $250 for, which wasgood, solid metal, good quality
speaker, good array of mics.
And then they came out with awhole slew of cheaper, more

(51:45):
plasticky alternatives.
And then I bought the high-endGen 2 Alexa that came out.
That was an even bettermicroarray, and again, this was
a solid metal product thatweighs a hefty amount because it
has a speaker capable ofproviding some bass to it as
well, a speaker capable ofproviding some bass to it as

(52:09):
well.
And so I have those two.
And then I have a one of thelittle cheap coffee puck lexus
in the bedroom for the alarmyeah, well, I don't know man.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Look at the home assistant.
Uh, home dash assistant, I dotio for another project because
it looks like mycroft.
They ceased development andforked.
Oh really there's other options.
You've got computers, you'vegot tablets, you've got lots of
things in those rooms.
You don't need the Alexa device, you just need the software.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
So I don't know, yeah , I mean, all I want is
something that can just turn mylights on and off when I say
that, sure, just turn my lightson and off when I say that, sure
, and your iphone can listen tomy iphone can literally do that
right now.
I know it's.
That's the first thing I alwaysdo on the iphones when I get
them is turn off the constantlistening.
Yeah, me too.
It drains the damn battery.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Oh I, I changed the setting on my google stuff I do
not use the google voiceassistant no, thank you I use
google voice to text all thedamn time, which is sending a
lot of stuff back to google,yeah, but you know, but it's
stuff you know you're sendingyou're cognizant of it yeah, and
you know it's stuff that ifsomeone really wanted to get a

(53:18):
hold of a copy of that textmessage or whatever, even if I
was using the keyboard you knowthere's lots of things.
Now there is the Futo keyboardit's an alpha still that does a
lot of the voice-to-text stuffon your phone and never sends it
anywhere.
So you know, I've got thatinstalled, playing around with

(53:39):
it, but it's not as good as theother, and when you're driving
or you just want to yeah, be madand rant text at someone voice
to text is the

Speaker 3 (53:49):
real the way to do it , you know well, and siri's been
around on apple for god knowshow many years now, and
certainly for driving.
That's very convenient and Ithink on some states that's the
only way you can do it now aswell.
Um including texas includingtexas, yeah, which I remember
when california first starteddoing that.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
It seems so bizarre because I was so used to, just
you know, texting and driving intexas and the texas copies
their laws and when we had ablackberry with a physical
qwerty keyboard, it was a lotdifferent than it is when you're
driving and texting on a blankscreen.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Sure, fair enough.
There's something to be saidfor physical keyboards.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Those thumbs get a lot of work, a lot of exercise.
I actually really do miss myold.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
BlackBerry.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
Did you have the one with the trackball?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah or thetouch one.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Okay, yeah, I had a.
Well, my first one was atrackball one, and it was a
world phone, so it had two SIMcard slots in it and everything
else.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I mean I had the old PalmPilot phone.
Oh yeah, Not the one that theyturned into it, but the actual
original Palm Pilot.
That was a cell phone.

(55:11):
I had that back in the day incollege.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
I thought that came out like before you were born.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I had the original Palm Pilot in the 90s too.
Yeah, I was a big user of Palmand graffiti and all that yeah,
yeah, I like palm I.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
I used it back in the 90s as well and I thought that
it was not perfect, but thenagain I used the newton back, oh
the newton was terrible.
It really was.
It was way.
It was about a decade too early.
Yeah, the size could not bereduced to a reasonable size.
It was about the size of apaperback book and the thickness

(55:50):
of a paperback book uh, thebattery life was about six hours
.
The what a big paperback bookyeah yeah, but it weighed more
than the paperback book.
Um, um, I remember taking oneof those a Newton on a road trip
, uh, across the country and Ihave my maps on there, thinking

(56:15):
I was super high tech, right,because I was uh not going to
bring physical maps, you'resuper, not going to get to use
that.
Yeah, physical you're super, notgoing to get to use that, yeah.
So, super predictably, thebatteries died at just the wrong
time while driving and then Ihad to eventually pull over at a
gas station to buy some freshbatteries.

(56:37):
The good, the good thing aboutthat device was it wasn't using
rechargeables.
It was using regular batteriesyeah or true?
yeah, double a's, I believe so,double a's it's.
It's the same thing.
It's like most, not all, butmost of my red dot sites are the

(56:57):
romeo that uses a single triplea battery rather than the uh,
the little flat batteries.
Why?
Because when the apocalypsehappens, the supply of AAA
batteries will be much greaterthan the supply of a variety of

(57:17):
sizes of little flat batteries,which are going to be gone from
the shelves very quickly.
So I want my devices to be asuniversal as possible, and that
means standardized batteries.
Okay, plus it it, because ithas that battery right
underneath it.
It's essentially the high-risemount um, which is what I would

(57:42):
be buying anyway, even if Iwasn't buying the one with the
battery in it.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
So have you?
Did you watch the TempleCulture War show from Friday by
chance?
Friday no, oh man you gottawatch it.
Jfk Files, stuff Pretty good,oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
I didn't really see anything too exciting in the JFK
Files myself.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
I think we don't know jack shit of what's in the JFK
files and it's going to takequite a while until we know.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Did you not ask Brock to tell you?

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Oh yes, because they Dude if you actually go look at
these files the.
Ocring of these files is notgoing to be accurate at all.
So, it's been mimeographed somany times and blurred and
everything else like this wellthat's what they want you to
think.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
They just printed them.
These are all photoshopped.
There's nothing that's real inthat whole thing.
I don't know about that yeah Ithink they're all fake I the
reality is that, well, startingwith the most easiest, we have a

(58:50):
photograph of the allegedbullet that killed JFK.
That bullet has no damage andno sign.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
No, deformation no deformation whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Worse than that, it has no sign of going through a
rifled barrel yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Did you see the uh picture of dead jfk laying on
the uh coroner's table?

Speaker 3 (59:17):
nope, oh yeah, that's gone viral on uh on, uh, yeah,
alex, yeah, and how's that?

Speaker 1 (59:24):
look, it's pretty gruesome.
It looks dead.
Yeah, okay, and it's.
You know, it doesn't make sensewhere the exit wound is under
his chin.
To me for the trajectory, but Idon't know, I'd have to go

(59:49):
really deep dive into it.
But I think the point isthere's a lot of stuff that's
coming out that you know.
Uh, it's going to take a longtime to see what the actual,
real story is yeah, uh, and weneed to be patient like this is
going to be months to years somepeople think there was a second
shooter on the grass, you know,I think think it was Jackie
myself.
Well, so there's the wholeinterview with the Warren

(01:00:10):
Commission that Jackie gave.
That's been, you know,completely erased from history
and we got to see if that's inthis or not.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
So yeah, much like any other documents that have
been withheld for an extendedperiod of time, my trust level
on this is about one percent.
I just don't believe thatsomething that has been held in
secret for so long will ever seethe light of day.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
And the reason it takes so damn long to produce
these types of documents isbecause they have to fake them,
and making 80 000 documentstakes a long time, guys yeah I
mean, if that's the case, thenyeah, but you know also, going
through and finding and gettingall the documents and making

(01:01:04):
sure that we're not gettingredacted versions and so on.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
it takes a long time, I think what we're going to end
up finding is the same thingthat people have been finding
with Barack Obama's birthcertificate.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Oh the photoshopping.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
It's not photoshopped .
It was Adobe Illustrator andyou can separate the layers when
you open the PDF file that isposted on the official
government website as BarackObama's gift certificate.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Did you actually go and do that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
No, I watched the video again.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Yeah, so do you trust that video?

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Yeah, totally.
Guy has nothing to gain Becausehe's not even a political
YouTuber, he's an illustratorYouTuber, he does training
videos.
So what the hell, man?
Yeah, and so what you end upwith is a multi-layer document

(01:01:56):
where you can move a layer thathas all the handwritten text on
it, which is totally separatefrom the layer underneath, which
has effectively a template ofthat Hawaii birth certificate
like a scanned document.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
I've seen similar video.
I don't know if it's right ornot.
I haven't done it myself, sountil I do it myself, it's one
of those things that do.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
I trust that video so more than the government I
understand, I agree and I meanto a lot of us at the time
including trump, mind you whenobama was first being elected.
There's this, you know,conspiracy of, well, where was
he born?
And a lot of people kind ofjust said, well, does it even

(01:02:51):
matter?
because, where he was born,because his mother's an american
, no matter what well I don'tknow that she was first of all,
but uh, but aside from that, it,if there's no doubt about it,
why cover it up?
Why create a fake birthcertificate?
Let's, but let's just call.
You know, tell the truth.
The guy was born in nairobi,right?

(01:03:13):
So what if he's got a?
Uh, american mother?
Um, you know our buddy, adamcurry.
Uh, lived in africa as a youngkid.
Um, I think one of his sisterswas born in Africa.
Does that make her not a UScitizen?
No, of course she's a UScitizen.
Parents were spies, sonaturally that makes her US

(01:03:35):
citizen.
What are you chatting?

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
about.
You think Adam Curry's parentswere spies.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
I know Adam Curry's parents were spies.
Uh-huh.
Yes, okay, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
You don't know that.
For what agency?
Cia?

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
They were both in the CIA.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Hmm, yeah, so do we think Adam's in the CIA.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
No, Adam did not pass .

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
He failed the entrance test.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
He didn't realize it was an entrance test, but yes,
he did fail it, uh-huh, uh-huh.
Yeah, no, this is not a secret.
I'm not revealing anything thathe hasn't already talked about.
But yeah, absolutely.
And well, you know that wholestory, don't you?

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
oh, I know about Uncle Don and I know a lot of
things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Uncle Don was the one who recruited him, and
recruited his parents yeah,recruited the parents.
A lot of the the Curry familyhas been in government service
for many years, okay, but eitherway, my point is that I think

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it was his sister, willow, Ibelieve, that was born there.
That people are born all overthe place.
They don't lose their Americancitizenship because their
parents are American, and I meanwe could have a separate
conversation on maybe wait,should they.
But for whatever reason, it wasvery important that Obama would

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be born in Hawaii, and therewere three different versions of
what was claimed to be theoriginal birth certificate that
all looked slightly different,and now we have this coming out
more recently, with the onethat's actually posted on the
government website, havingmultiple layers where you can
literally take off the layerthat has all the handwritten

(01:05:41):
stuff on it yeah, and just to beclear, that came out, uh,
during the biden administrationnot, yeah, not not trump.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
So there's no chance of trump or somebody going in
and right doing x, y and z sothe the main point is like why
would they do that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
why would you need to fake a birth certificate?
And even even if he wasn't bornin the us, he would still be a
us citizen, assuming his motherwas a us citizen.
So what?
I'm more interested.
There have been arguments madebeing her birth certificate.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Well, no, the arguments that have been made,
really that are kind ofinteresting, is that she wasn't
of the age of majority, so canshe transfer citizenship?
Yeah, there's no question well,there has been questions.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
There's no question there there was tons of women
with that were not of the age ofmajority giving birth to
children.
At the beginning of thiscountry, the age of majority was
not what it is today.
Back then, so when you raisethe drinking age to 21, it
doesn't magically mean that18-year-olds handle alcohol any

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worse, I gotcha.
So I think this is.
There's a lot of dumb argumentsthat floated around at that
time.
The one that was interesting tome had more to do with what is
the rationale for hiding this ortrying to obfuscate?

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Jinx.
Yeah, no kidding.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
So you know, that's the thing that is is making me
raise my eyebrows is well, whyare they doing this?
What was the point?
Um so well, how do we startthis topic of obama?

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
I don't even remember dude, I don't know, I don't
know where I I don't know wherewe went off the rails but, I
yeah, I think it was with theBrigitte Macron thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Oh, why?
Why, that was like an hour ago.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Yes, yes, gene you have been ranting a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
In the category of president's wives with balls.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Well, to be fair we don't know if she kept her balls
.
Uh-huh yeah, oh-huh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Oh man, well, Michelle Obama certainly has, it
seems.
Why?
Well, because the videosfloating of her actually they
demonstrate a mass in thegroinal area that seems to have

(01:08:32):
a hard time being in a swimsuit.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Yeah, but you can.
You can.
There's a dick, but no balls.
Yeah, exactly, you can havestuff down there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
You sure can.
You're a male, yeah, uh, so, uh, yeah, I don't, I don't know, I
don't know what else.
We talked about ukraine.
We talked about wait, oh, youknow, you brought up that I
didn't see a video on tim pool.
That's where we were.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Yeah With uh Kennedy assassination stuff.
Um, I don't know, I think it'sinteresting.
Uh, I think we might get to seesome real stuff.
Who knows, we'll see.
Uh, I'm not holding my breath,I'm not suggesting that.
Oh yeah, trump, I have fullfaith in Trump.
I don't have that, but you know.

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I've got more faith than I didwith anyone else releasing it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
What about aliens?
What about them?
Well, Elon Musk recently in aninterview said there are no
aliens.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Well, we haven't had contact with aliens, aliens
which I don't think that we havehad any where.
When?

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
well, I mean, where do you think all the mythical
stories come from of superbeings?

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
I think that there are actually, you know, beings
that are powerful and the alienyou know beings that are
powerful and the alien you know,like superman.
Okay I don't see it but okayyou don't, you don't see the
aliens.
All right, all right I meanyeah I don't think we're hiding
anything I get where you'recoming from, but no, I don't

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think that.
Uh, it depends on what you meanby alien.
Would you call an angel or godan alien?

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Hell yeah of course, Okay sure.
But that wouldn't be the way Iwould describe it, because
that's just a humaninterpretation of something that
they don't understand and can'texplain.
Of course it's alien.
Okay, by human Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
I just don't think.
I don't think the governmenthas documented interactions with
aliens you don't think thegovernment's holding angels
prisoners?

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
no, I don't really no , that's a shocker.
Why is that?
A shocker.
They are uh-huh okay I, I, Iwouldn't doubt it.
I mean, historically speaking.
This is something that mostgovernments have participated in
.
When they capture somethingthat can be utilized for benefit

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to their civilization, theytend to hang on to it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Well, I don't think there's some great secret out
there about aliens.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
I'm sorry I don't.
The's some great secret outthere about aliens.
I'm sorry I don't.
The pyramid stuff going aroundis crazy enough to me.
People are just jumping on thisbandwagon.
It's like whoa, whoa, whoa.
This is one stupid survey ofyou've.
Got to calm down and let's lookat this in a little bit more

(01:11:45):
depth.
Right, calm down, and let'slook at this a little bit more
depth, right?
Don't just say, oh my god,there's stuff all the way under
the pyramids.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
this on the other, the proven, no, no you know,
that's what they said abouteaster island statues too.
What about them?
They were just heads, okay,until they finally started
unearthing them and theyrealized they weren't heads.
I have yet to see it.
They were full-size statues.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
Show me an image.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Oh, I can Google that right now.
Those have been around for manyyears.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Talk about Photoshop.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Yes, I'm that good at Photoshop that I can create
something on the fly as we'retalking Now.
If you wanted me to create asong and post it on X, that I
can do something on the fly aswe're talking Now.
If you wanted me to create asong and post it on X, that I
can do in a couple of minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Grok's pretty good at making images, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Yeah, that's true, but I don't need to because we
actually have the real deals.
Show me images.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Show me images.
Grok Please quick.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
There's no Grok thing here, this is purely a.
Okay, here's a perfect one.
I'm going to send you this oneCopy, copy, paste, paste.
I said Alexa, paste image.
There we go, perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Oh my god.
You did not just use Alexa topaste an image.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Sure, you can believe that.
There's a ton of these.
There's literally hundreds ofthese photos Interesting.
Yeah, they were full on statues.
Now they're kind of goofylooking right.
I'm not saying they'reparticularly good examples of
carving stone to look human, butmaybe they weren't supposed to

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be looking human, Maybe theywere supposed to look like the
aliens.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Well, and the question is was that
intentionally buried at thatlevel, or is that just the
buildup of sediment?

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
over time and that question has been asked.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Because, if that's the case, they were buried.
They were buried.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
They were buried.
Okay, there's too muchregularity and consistency
across these statures and theentire island to have been
something that naturallyoccurred.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Interesting.
I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
I don't know that anybody knows why they were
buried, but they were buried.
So, for all we know, what we'reseeing in the pyramids in Giza
are like the top 5% of thepyramid, and the rest of it is
underground.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Dude talk about a megalithic structure.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Well, it's supposed to be big enough, supposed to be
big enough.
And now you know, from, from uh, electronics that, uh, when you
have amplifiers, you do havesomewhat of a perimitable shape.
Um, you have that, uh, thatconcentration of the point at

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which the signal jumps from.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
So you think that the pyramids are some sort of
amplifier?

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
I don't know, man, I you know, I barely passed
physics, so all I'm saying isthat it brings up interesting
questions that can create a tonof science fiction and fantasy
writing, and that's the stuffI'm more interested in.
But the idea that people havebeen saying well, the pyramids,
you know that they're tuned tocertain frequencies, have to be
440 hertz, which is also,incidentally, a frequency used

(01:15:34):
by Apple when the computerstarts up.
But let's just pretend thatthat's still a coincidence.
But the resonant frequency ofthe planet Earth, if amplified
properly, can derive tremendouspower, and the focal, focused
power at that, which some peoplewould argue was the whole point
of building these things by thealiens that were on Earth a

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long time ago in the first place, because the pyramids were, you
know, they're older than mostof the Egyptian writings that we
read about like, with Passovercoming up here as one.
Pyramids were already thereduring the time of Moses.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
So the Jews didn't build the pyramids.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
No, the space Jews built the pyramids.
You see, the Jewish race isreally the last descendants of
the alien race that visited thisearth, and they passed on
certain commandments to theiroffspring.
Are you not familiar with thehistory of this?

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Dude, I think you're going down a rabbit hole that is
bigger than Michelle Obama'scar.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
It's a fun rabbit hole.
I got books on this rabbit hole.
I'm sure you do, but I loveshit like this.
I love Atlantean stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
You're the guy who watches Ancient Aliens on Every
episode, man.
Every freaking, it is sofucking stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
Like that is the dumbest show yeah.
Yeah.
Guest appearance on it.
I would totally do it.
Oh gee, there are certain.
There's certainly certainaspects or certain guests I
should say on that show thatthat don't have a very good
story to tell, but there's alsoa lot of fun stories.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
All right, look, there's some neat, interesting
like conundrums of hey, how didthe ancients do this?
But to sit there and turnaround, and every time or was it
ancient aliens?
It's just so such a tiresometrope.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
No, you could go the Battlestar Galactica route and
say that you know.
Civilizations on Earth haverisen and killed themselves off
so many times now that we'velost track of what was which
civilization.
Yeah, I think that's a what waswhich civilization?

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Yeah, I think that's a far more plausible answer.
Yeah, and maybe we evolved andgot to points way faster than
our current history recognizes.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Exactly Because the Cylons came down and we're
really children of the Cylons.
I agree with you.
Yeah, why else would we beburying statues on Easter Island
?
I don't know Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
There's probably some explanation.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
And isn't it fun trying to find those?

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Probably aliens, though, I guess man, the ancient
apocalypse stuff, yeah, likethat is far more interesting to
me than, oh, aliens, aliens thegreat flood that we see in
virtually every religious textno, I, I, I, actually I take it

(01:19:05):
as proof.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
It was actually caused by the pyramids, when
they were actively utilized toharness the energy of the
natural resonant frequency ofthe Earth and to send that
energy to the aliens that builtthem in the first place.
I see, so you're a denier.
I am a denier of this yes,Sounds like you're a denier man.
Yeah, denier of this.
Yes, Sounds like you're adenier man.

(01:19:26):
Yeah, the ground shook so hard.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
My belief in the Holocaust is far more than my
belief in this.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Yes, I'm denying this , you alien denier you.
Oh man, I love this stuff.
I always thought it was some ofthe funnest stuff in
pseudoscience is the alienrelated stuff, so let's talk
about a topic that is moreinteresting dc circuit judge is
asking you know one of thevenezuelan uh games turns

(01:20:03):
circuit.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
I said what dc circuit?

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
it's a new jerk oh all right, sorry sorry, go ahead
go ahead anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Ordered the trump administration to turn around
the planes containing yes trenda or agua gangsters going to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Uh, you know a jail in latin america yeah what.
What's your take on this?

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
because I think, I think he has zero authority he
has zero authority, he hasnegative authority.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Frankly, as far as I'm concerned, he ought to join
them, that's my take uh, I thinkit's high time we start
building some penal colonies forthe people that just don't get
it, Because I don't thinkthey're going to change.
Frankly and this judge is aperfect example of that the
president has within hisauthority the methods by which

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the Justice Department isactually conducting its business
.
So when a judge sentencessomebody to prison, it isn't the
judge or anybody in thatdepartment that is in charge of
the prison system.
Likewise here, when thesepeople are found to be guilty of
committing crimes such asentering the country legally,

(01:21:35):
the methods of how thesecriminals are actually dealt
with and imprisoned are not upto judges.
They're up to the executivebranch.
That's their purview here.
So the judicial branch saysguilty or not guilty their
purview here.
So the judicial branch saysguilty or not guilty.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
The uh executive branch then carries out the um,
yeah, I I think, I think, Ithink trump is gonna have to go
full jackson on this one and saythey've made their ruling, let
them enforce it exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
Well, I mean, jesus, that you might as well say go
full o biden on this, becausethat's what o biden did with
forgiving student debt.
You know he didn't care whatthe supreme court said uh
speaking of the supreme court,yes, and uh the uh.
The alleged republicans on it,which are, I think, there's only

(01:22:25):
one at this point um, tellingtrump to stay in his lane and
not be telling people anythingbad about judges.
Roberts said yeah what's your?

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
take on that uh well, roberts has a lot of uh stuff
in his past.
That's pretty iffy.
So we should start talkingabout how he's a rapist, though,
or you mean groomer pedophilewho got some UK boys adopted

(01:23:01):
through Latin America and can'tfind the paperwork on the
adoption.
Mm-hmm, yeah, there's thatwhich got brought up on
yesterday's Culture War throughLatin America and can't find the
paperwork on the adoption.
Yeah, there's that which gotbrought up on yesterday's
culture war and Tim Pool waslike what is this?
It's like?
Were you not paying attentionduring the confirmation hearings
?
Come on dude, probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
I think Tim was on the other side during the
confirmation hearings, wasn't heMaybe?

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
but then why wouldn't he know?

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
that point.
Yeah, I don't know.
He was working for Vice, Ithink, at the time.
But either way, look like.
What Roberts is acting like isa guy who considers members of a
profession judges to be hisgang, and he's going to stand up

(01:23:53):
for his gang against the othergang which got him into the job
he's in.
And it's like dude.
The supreme Court justices arenot above impeachment either,
and I think they all forget that, and I think it's high time
that we make an example ofsomebody from the judicial

(01:24:15):
branch.
You pick one.
There's plenty of bad judgesout there.
Yeah.
Let's impeach them, let'sactually show that hey, guess
what your job for life?

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
you can lose it, yeah , show that.
Hey, guess what your job forlife?
You can lose it, yeah.
But okay, the impeachmentprocess for a federal court
judge is more or less the sameas, uh, impeachment of the
president.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
Right, the house files sure, but during that
process he will not be allowedto make any uh any judgments uh,
I don't know about thatabsolutely okay, I, that's the
first motion that every lawyeris going to file is a change of,
uh, change of judge change ofvenue.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Yeah, well anyway the point is, I don't care what the
evidence against the judge isyou're not going to get
two-thirds of a vote in theSenate to impeach a judge.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
Well, again, I mean, it all depends on what you can
dig up on these people.
Everybody in there is crooked.
So the question really is howhard do you want to apply the
arm twisting?
It's not like there's no armtwisting to be had.
Look at chuck schumer.
You think chuck schumer's doingthis stuff out of the grossness

(01:25:38):
of his heart.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
I think he's got something on him I think there's
a little bit of that.
I think he was beaten instrategy.
I think he knew that if he shutthe government down, he'd be
blamed for it.
If he did, he was in alose-lose situation.
So he chose the option that hethought was the best option,
which really screwed over a lotof the Democrats in the House,

(01:25:59):
because they took some hardvotes to shut the government
down that, uh, they thought thesenate was going to back them up
on and turns out, uh, nope,they are not yeah so anyway, um,
I I think the better option.
If you really want to, uh, takecare of these judges in a

(01:26:21):
meaningful way, um, you have togo through and defund their
courts.
So it would be easier forcongress to, because congress
determines the number of courts.
The circuit courts andeverything else so you could
easily say all right, dc judge.
Well, uh, your court no longerexists.

(01:26:41):
So thank you, have doge, dothat well, it's gonna require
acts of congress.
I don't know, but it'd be funnyand really what needs to happen
is basically and this is what Ithink the house ought to start
doing is take every single oneof trump's executive orders and
executive actions and into a lawand vote up or down on each and

(01:27:05):
every one of them as a singlebill.
Just go through and starthaving those votes and pass them
into law, because then you'redone.
If AOC gets into the presidencynext time, she can't just
repeal it.
So that, to me, is what needsto happen.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
Well, more than that not only can she not repeal it,
so that, to me, is what needs tohappen.
Well, more than that not onlycan she not repeal it, but the
judiciary is going to have amuch harder time opposing
something that was passed by.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Congress, like they would actually have to show that
it was an unconstitutionalaction.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Yes, Right now, they just wave their magic wand and
say, uh no, this is questionableand therefore we're going to
enforce a uh, a stay on thatindefinitely.
So it's a.
Certainly, passing these intolaws would make them work a lot

(01:28:02):
harder if they really trulywanted to get in front of them,
and I think for a lot of thesejudges, a lot of humans in
general, there is a barrier thatis defined by work effort, so
you don't necessarily have toprevent somebody from doing
something.
You just have to make itdifficult enough that they just

(01:28:23):
decide it's not worth their time.
Uh, agreed, and this happens incourt all the time yeah, agreed
, and it happens in business allthe time.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
And it also happens when you show that you're going
to do some good faith effort,that it actually means something
and goes a little further thansomeone who doesn't.
So well, you hope so, but thatunfortunately, it's not always
the case it's not always thecase, but odds are better than
not that it's going to make adifference, in my opinion yeah
at least it does with me.

(01:28:57):
But dude, the amount of tds andelon, the arrangement syndrome
is absolutely astonishing.
Like Zayhan, you know it'sreally that Mandela effect in a
way that I look at this and I go, okay, you are so fucking off
base on this.
It really makes me questionsome of the areas I agreed with

(01:29:21):
you on, like, okay, criticalanalysis here.
I got gotta think about thisand look at this a little bit
deeper.
so I don't know, he's just he.
He is literally acting like umtrump is doing the bidding of
russians again and going downthat road.
And oh, the russians, this, therussians, that dude.

(01:29:42):
What I see is fuck the eu, fuckeurope it.
The best economic and militaryalliance to fend off china is
going to be a russo-americanalliance.
Yeah, yeah that really is thething that I always add in

(01:30:03):
russia.
Compare russia to the eu.
Right, you can.
You can sit there and say, ohwell, the russians aren't free,
they're not this, they're notthat, and you think the
countries in the eu are.
The eu is more communistic thanrussia is, absolutely you have
to recognize this.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
you have more communistic, more atheists, more
more multicultural, moretechnocracy?
Yeah, you know okay, so Respondto those people.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
So maybe that wasn't true in 1944.
Right but it sure is true today.
So what direction right?
What do you want to choose?
Well, they've always been ourenemy.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, that's bullshit, okay,and.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
There's a I mean, I guess there's a little bit of
truth to that with Britain,because Britain has fought
Russia multiple times.
But what I always say is, likeyou know, during the Cold War,
all I kept hearing is we'refighting communism.
Okay, well, we won againstcommunism and we freed the

(01:31:04):
people that were communists fromcommunism and showed them the
benefits of capitalism.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
yes, why not welcome them into the fold?

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
worked for them.
So communism is dead in russia.
They are very capitalistic, soI'm going to say a little too
capitalistic it's not dead gene.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
No, no, no, that's not true.
It's yeah, it's uh, it's alloligarchs and it's all this,
that and the other oligarchs areliterally only possible in
capitalism.

Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
Um is, in communism you can't have an oligarch.
It's literally impossible.
So if we were at war withcommunism, then why are we at
war with russia, who is acapitalist country, and we're
aligned with very socialistcountries in europe that have
been moving further and furtherand further towards communism.

(01:31:55):
So was it never the communism?
Was it always just, we don'tlike those white people.
There's few countries.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Well, hey, we both know, slavs are not white oh,
that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
That's right.
Yes, they are people of color.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
People of color, yes now that color happens to be
white, but the.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
The word caucasian literally comes from the
caucuses, which are russia.
So, yeah, yeah, they're notwhite, they're caucasian, right?

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
but you know, you have to remember this all goes
back to you know the irish werenot seen as white well, that I
kind of agree with.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
I mean, they're not really humans because they don't
have souls, yeah, anyway thepoint is, try to argue against
it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
I'm half irish.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
I do a podcast with an irish and I know I can tell
you I do a podcast with a jew.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
It's okay, well, we're comparing minorities, are
we?

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
exactly I'm and fucking here, but the point is I
, I, I, I think, if you look atthe northwest passage, if that
is actually going to open upbecause of yeah, uh, let's say,
global warming or ice melting orwhatever, which I don't believe
that it will, but right let'ssay it did what are the two

(01:33:20):
countries that are going tocontrol that?
It's going to be america andrussia and finland.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
It's going to be finland, obviously.
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
it's clearly finland uh-huh, uh-huh yeah, no man,
yeah I, I, I, I just tradebetween russia and the us has
the most.
So simple, yeah, and it has themost bypassing everybody else
well, and you could actually.
You know, if we took parts ofBritish Columbia the way we

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should, you could literally makea bridge from the United States
to Russia.
You could literally have apipeline going across the Bering
Straits right there.
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Yep, that's absolutely right.
Yeah, that's absolutely right.
There are a lot of logical,rational reasons why that
alliance would be.
I should say, is that isexactly why Europe will be not

(01:34:31):
just opposed it will always beagainst it but because they will
act in ways to provoke thesetwo countries from ever wanting
to join together.
It is in Europe's best interestto keep the US and Russia
fighting Agreed Always has beenliterally since the American
revolution.
So it's just because it'slogical doesn't mean that it's

(01:34:56):
natural outcome.
It's.
It's going to be progressivelymore and more difficult if Trump
stays on the course ofnormalizing relations with
Russia, because all kinds ofother factors will start popping
up, other than Ukraine, to tryand prevent him from doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
Well and everybody's going to scream.
I can see the false flagscoming.
I can see lots of thingshappening here.
I, they're gonna, they're goingto.
As soon as russia gets tired ofbeing goaded and doesn't abide

(01:35:38):
by the ceasefire, they're gonnasay oh look, see, he's bad no
matter what the ukrainians didto cause it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
If that was the case, um yeah, well, they remember,
russia blew up its own pipeline.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
Yeah right, that's the logic, but now we know
that's not the case, and why,why, the hell that's not but,
why the hell isn't germanysaying, uh zolinski, that was an
act of war against us.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
Yeah because they're a bunch of you-know-whats.
No, I don't, no, they kind ofare what, what?
Germany?
Yeah, a bunch of pussies.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
Eh, okay, there are two world wars.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
That would Exactly, and then, after that, they've
been pussified exactly.
And then, after that, they'vebeen pussified uh the uh.
You know, to this day you canget arrested, for god forbid
having a nazi symbol.

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
Yeah, or you can't play video games.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
You can't play video games in germany that have world
war ii references.
It's idiotic.
If anything, you ought to learnfrom history, which means you
can't ban any historicalmaterial.
Like that would be saying well,we have to ban all material
involving any reference toslavery.
What, why?

(01:36:59):
That's idiotic.
What you're going to take downstatues next?
I guess they're doing thatalready, but it is insane to try
and prevent young people fromlearning about what happened,
because banning Naziparaphernalia symbology in
Germany will only result inGerman youth not knowing what

(01:37:23):
their grandparents did the wordyou were looking for.
There is symbolism yeah,symbolism, exactly a nazi
symbolism.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
You know it's, it's crazy uh, did you ever see
boondock saints?
No, you have not watchedboondock saints, no, okay you,
you need to watch that movie,dude.
And there's a great williamdefoe moment where he's
correcting someone who's sayingsymbology versus symbolism, oh

(01:37:51):
okay.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
That was the reference.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
Okay, I didn't get that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what's the difference?
So symbology is what Symbolism?

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Anyway, I'll let you look it up.
But yeah, the word you werelooking for was symbolism.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
Symbolic is the study or interpretation of symbols or
symbolism.
So if symbology is the study ofsymbolism yes, yeah.
So to correct somebody to saysymbolism instead of symbology,
then the reference has to havebeen to a symbol, not the study
thereof.

(01:38:29):
Agreed, yeah, okay, well, Ididn't know that.
So you know, shut up, dude.
That's why I'm reading.
This is why we have theinternet, so we can read things
and order food.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Yeah, the main two reasons for the internet.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
My food will be here shortly.
Oh yeah, what'd you get?
Uh, fuego, fuego, the hot wingsno fuego.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
Uh, it's a little taco shop here in taco taco,
yeah, this means fire.
Yeah, yeah, I know, but fuegois a restaurant here in brian
call station and they do.
It's not like Mexican food atall.
I literally got.
Two of the tacos I got arecalled Buffalo Bill and it's
literally fried chicken withbuffalo sauce and pico and stuff

(01:39:17):
like that and cheese in a tacoyeah, and it's delicious Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
Gotcha Cool.
Now I'm hungry.
Well, you know, that's whathappens.
When you start thinking of food, your body has that same
instinct that your dog does.
You start drooling when youstart thinking, oh, I'm about to
eat.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Yeah, that's not what I'm drooling over lately, by
the way, dude, oh my God, thishas been a hell of a week for me
personally.
You bought a new gun no, no,and I, me personally.
You bought a new gun no, no,and I won't be buying a new gun
for a while.
Uh, so that hailstorm that camethrough, oh, yeah yeah, two
totaled cars, wow.

(01:39:58):
And I I'm gonna have to fightthe insurance company because
the valuation they're giving meis bullshit, but anyway.
And then the roof.
I've had one roofer look at itand said yeah, and I've got
another one coming today to lookat it.
And then I've got to make adecision.
But do you know that theinsurance companies and this is
something to look out for foreveryone your hail and you know

(01:40:27):
that that deductible that isseparate from your rest of your
home insurance deductible theyare now deciding that the
industry standard is now twopercent as a minimum deductible.
That's where your deductiblesstart of your home's value.
Wow that's a big deductible yeahyeah, I mean it's over 10
grand,000 for me.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
Yeah, exactly $10,000 to $20,000 per house for
deductible.
Why the hell do I haveinsurance?

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
Well, I mean there's reasons that you have to, but
it's just insanity.
So, anyway, long story short,I'm laying out some money this
week and it's a little stressful.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
So the hail damaged two of your cars, bad enough to
get replacements.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
I don't know that it's bad enough that they have
to be replaced.
Okay, like my body guy, Ialready had him look at the cars
and he was kind of surprisedthat they were totaling them out
.
So I, I've really sunroof break.
No, they're never, never wantto have a sunroof.
Oh, neither one of them haveany glass damage it's just dense

(01:41:39):
.

Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
So the value of the cars has gone down, but they're
fully drivable and everythingvalue of the cars has gone down,
but they're fully drivable andeverything.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
Well, yeah, and I'm gonna look at the options of
buying salvage titles back.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
But do you really want to salvage title cars or
daily driver depends I mean, ifit's your card, you've driven it
since it was brand new and thenit got salvaged for a dumb
reason like this.
Yeah, hell, yeah, hell, yeah,yeah, but anyway, you're not
going to sell it, you're goingto drive it until it dies.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, it's an interestingconundrum.

Speaker 3 (01:42:13):
I don't know what I'm going to.
Wait, is one of these yourtruck?
And are you getting a new car?
Finally, for Christ's sakes?

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
No, my truck was fine .
Ironically, that's too bad.
The Tonto cover on my truck gotdented up, but the rest of my
truck is fine.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
You have a hard Tonto .
Yeah, yeah, okay, got it.
Wait, isn't that plastic?
How is plastic dent?
No, it's aluminum.
Oh, you got an aluminum.
Yeah, aluminum dents.
That's absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
And that's why my truck didn't get dented up.
But the two newer cars thathave aluminum bodies did Well,
you know what didn't get dented?

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
What Steel?
Yeah, the Tesla Cybertruck,yeah, no shit no dents yeah.
Although.
I don't know about that frontwindshield.
That's pretty flat yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
I don't know how well that would take it.
Well, anyway, we had a prettysignificant hail storm here and
yeah you showed me a giant hailspicture yeah, well, and it
wasn't just, uh, us, you knowthe, there it's it.
This entire area just gotreally hammered.
So, yeah, unfortunate, butthat's the way it is yeah, it's

(01:43:25):
uh's.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
You know, fingers crossed that I can't wait to
hear.
We haven't had big hail inAustin ever since I moved down.
We really haven't.
We had small hail for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
Yeah, we haven't had anything big.
We haven't had a significanthailstorm here really since I've
been here.
You'll get pockets here andthere that are significant, but
this was the biggest andbroadest destructive hailstorm
in this area that I've seen, andI've been in this area since

(01:43:56):
2004.
Anyway, some of these photos ofthe Kennedy autopsy I just sent
you on are pretty interestingbecause you know you're supposed
to believe that a rifle rounddid this and it's like, hmm, so

(01:44:19):
you're saying there's not enoughdamage.
It certainly does not appear tobe Okay, like it's really pretty
shocking the uh the entranceand exit wombs looking the way
they do with everything I'veever seen on uh, ballistic gel
and everything else yeah, sowell, and they, they've always

(01:44:40):
said that the, uh, the exitwound was huge.

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
So have you seen a picture of the exit wound?

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
yeah, if you, uh, just go on x and search jfk
photos yeah, I guess I could uhdo that I'll.
I'll do it for you, gene, don'tworry.
Okay, good, yeah, here's theexit wound that supposedly went

(01:45:11):
out of his throat.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
Yeah, and I just the trajectory just does not seem
possible to me.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it was a faketrajectory of two different
rounds colliding in mid-brain.

(01:45:34):
Um, that's jfk really.

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
It looks like he's surprised yeah, because he
didn't think that jackson wouldactually pull him off and shoot
him.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
So an entry through the skull, the back of the skull
and an exit at the very bottomof the throat near the clavicle.
It had to have gone a good sixto seven inches through his, his
brain, and his neck andeverything and not deflected.

(01:46:13):
Yeah, and prior to exiting yeah, yeah.
So even the forgetting the factthat the bullet photos obviously
fake, because there there's azero damage whatsoever on that
bullet, the you know, actuallythe photo of the round that
allegedly went through himreminded me of the round that

(01:46:35):
was still had the shell in itright, so like a full an unfired

(01:46:57):
bullet, right, Right, right,and then showed that as one of
the yeah, like a bullet in thecartridge, Showing that off as
one of the bullets that hadricocheted off some building
that was shot by these.
You know, racists usually whatelse?

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
is CNN going to?

Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
have as evidence like that, this boycott protest,
whatever the hell it was thatpeople were shooting them Not.
The reporter.
Clearly, having never held agun in his life, couldn't tell
the difference between anunfired round and a bullet that

(01:47:40):
had gotten stuck in something orhad bounced off a building.
That's kind of what that,looking at that photo of the jfk
round look, reminded me of.

Speaker 1 (01:47:48):
It's like if you're gonna fake that round, at least
make it look believable well,and I'll be honest, there's a
lot of information, uh, in whatwas released that should point
people to look harder and harderat the CIA, and I think that's

(01:48:12):
ultimately why this was notreleased for a long time, and I
think it's in Trump's bestinterest to release this
information, get people going.
Hey, it sure looks like the CIAkilled Kennedy.
Right, you know we shouldabolish the CIA and then you
know he can release.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
What's the information though?

Speaker 1 (01:48:31):
And then he could release some information saying
hey, the CIA was involved in theassassination attempts on me.
They've already killed onepresident.
We've got to stop this.
I can see that being the playhere, so I think there will be
some real information in it, butwe'll see anyway, yeah, but
this, this, this wound, actuallykind of goes more in line with

(01:48:53):
my take on jackie being themurderer.

Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
Why is the gunshot was from the neck going up into
his brain?
No, that's not an exit wound.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
The, the, the, the.
The photo of the back of hishead is is an entrance wound.
There's no way that could be anexit wound through bone.

Speaker 3 (01:49:10):
There might have been more than one shot.
I'm just saying that this couldbe an entrance wound as well.

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
This doesn't look like an exit wound would make
sense to me, would would theonly.

Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
that's the only thing that would make sense to me on.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
The damage we're seeing is some little small
caliber, not a rifle round right, like exactly people just don't
understand the difference inenergy there and what happens
yeah, yeah well, that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
Um, yeah, well, I'm gonna start watching to see if I
hear any any questions beingasked of putin about jfk well,
they were certainly trying there.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
there's documents that have already been released
that we've looked at, where youknow the faking of oswald doing
stuff, and there's lots ofinteresting things.
So definitely should uh shouldtake a look yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Hmm, oh, this is interesting here.
I'm going to send you this.
Uh, I haven't read it, I justread the headline, but it's an
interesting headline, whyRussian officials try to help
John F Kennedy win thepresidency.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
The russians are all behind everything yeah, and
here's uh some photos to supportyour jackie theory oh, yeah,
yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
What is she doing there?
Yeah, anyway trying to run awayfrom after shooting her husband
and then there was a uh,there's a lot.
Well, open it and look, becausethere's more than you see her
right there holding the gunpointing at his neck, so I'm not
sure how my it's blurry, Idon't see how you can affirm
that that's a gun, but it sureis a little wonky I will

(01:51:03):
position she, she's in there uh,yeah and how she stepped on her
husband trying to get away ohman, yeah, I, I just I don't
trust women men

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
yeah yeah unfortunately these days you
can't.
Like you ever could Well youknow, when they were kept a
little more in line by society.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
Yes, back when the whole world was Muslim, you mean
?
Yes mythical times.
Yeah, it's hard to avoid havingthese sort of sarcastic
conversations with any of myfriends, even the ones that I'm
not doing podcasts with, becauseeveryone keeps telling me their

(01:51:58):
stories about their wives orgirlfriends and it's kind of
like, well, you know, that'skind of par for the course, dude
, that's how they act.

Speaker 1 (01:52:08):
Sad, but true.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
Yeah, Sad but true.
That's about all you can say.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
Well, anything else you want to cover before we wrap
up, so I can go eat my tacos.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
Oh yeah, your tacos are already.
Yeah, no, I was just going tosay.
Well, you asked me what mythoughts were.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
What are your thoughts and I will, ken.
Do you think, um, I think thecia, I what I've thought for a
long time?
I think the cia, uh, the cubansand the mob wittingly or
unwittingly worked together tooff the president, because
johnson um was a gangster in alot of ways and uh, you know he
was, uh, he was to kennedy asgeorge hw bush was to reagan,

(01:52:58):
reagan, he was kind of forced inthere by the party.
They were not friends, they hadscreaming matches.
They were different.
Kennedy was going to pull usout of Southeast Asia.
He was going to do certainthings.
I don't think that highly ofKennedy because I think he was
just some playboy, but therewere some things where he's like
no, we're not going to do thatand I'm the president, right,

(01:53:20):
and I think the deep state forlack of a better word or the
people in power that were thereal power.
Kennedy, you're just supposedto be the face.
What are you doing?
Said okay, take him out.

Speaker 3 (01:53:33):
Well, and I think Kennedy frankly averted a
disaster during the CubanMissile Crisis.
Mm-hmm.
And if it was up to thepermanent political state,
otherwise known as the swamp orthe deep state, I think they
would have said yeah, they wouldhave said this is our

(01:53:55):
opportunity to nuke Cubapreemptively.
And because we're nuking Cubaand not Russia, Russia won't
respond, but we'll be able topermanently remove that
communist threat from ourhemisphere.
And I think he had the wisdomto actually call Russia.

(01:54:17):
And they were able to get thissituation averted through words
and not weapons, Becauseultimately, both countries were
doing the exact same thing,which is bringing missiles
closer and closer to the other.

(01:54:38):
This wasn't like oh, Russia,out of the blue, decided to put
missiles in Cuba.
Oh, Russia, out of the blue,decided to put missiles in Cuba.
No, the missiles in Cuba was aresponse to missiles in a lot
further than Ukraine at thispoint, but basically missiles in
the American-controlled areasof Europe.

(01:54:59):
And so Russia was like well,hold on, you're bringing
offensive weaponry closer to us.
Well, we can do that too.
And as a result of thatnegotiation from the Cuban
Missile Crisis, Russia removedthe weapons from Cuba and the US
removed the missiles notweapons, but missiles from where

(01:55:21):
they were, and I'm trying toremember exactly where they were
.
I can't remember if it was likeTurkey or somewhere else, but
it was definitely on thenon-socialist side of the Iron
Curtain, obviously.
But they were too close forcomfort for Russia and I could
look it up if I wanted to, butwe're trying to wrap up the

(01:55:42):
podcast so I'm not going tobother looking it up.
Someone wants to.
They can Google it themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
The point is, the cuban missile crisis could have
gone the other way reallyquickly and been really bad, and
it's a.

Speaker 3 (01:55:54):
It's a good thing that it didn't yeah, and there
there are always people that aretrying to say that escalation
will result in a win by our side, the warmongers well, and the
problem is they feel like theycan guarantee that win and they
can't, and that that's the realproblem is that these people

(01:56:17):
have a in their mind oh, there'sno way they can stand up to us
we, we can definitely beat thosecommie bastards, we.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
There's no doubt in my mind that we will win.
Uh, okay, dude you.
You know the enemy gets a votetoo, and people have to realize
that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
So I don't know yeah, yeah, and there there are
certainly opportunities tosettle things.
This is where I think trump isreally shining is that he is a
negotiator.
He knows how to bring ideas upthat no one's thought of before.

(01:56:56):
That may be more beneficial toboth sides with those ideas to
settle their differences than tokeep fighting.
And this is what he can bringto Ukraine.
And I think the idea ofUkrainian resources for America
was brilliant, and Zelenskyobviously didn't see it, because

(01:57:19):
what it did was effectivelyplace an american shield in
ukraine preventing russianattacks.
Yeah, without saying I'm goingto bring a shit ton of american
Ukraine to prevent russianattacks.
Yeah, like it was anon-escalationary way that

(01:57:39):
resulted in the exact samebenefit of well, shit, we can't
bomb there because we'll killamericans.
So it was a good move.
And then zelensky just being theman that he is well and not to
see it.
You know the question but wewant to make sure that we can
take all our territory back andpush into moscow and what?

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
what does he do about the deal he already had with
the uk, though for those?

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
minerals and things well, and the latest on that
front, uh, without getting toodeep on that topic, is you know,
it looks like the uk is nowbeing abandoned by the other
european countries, who are notany longer wanting to place any
troops in ukraine realizing thatamerica is france is pretty on

(01:58:27):
there uh, yeah, france, okay,fair enough, france might be,
but most of the others,including germany, have said no
troops in ukraine because theywere all counting on the big
american rah-rah.
If america places troops, thenwe will, and america is like, uh
, not happening.

(01:58:47):
No, no american troops inukraine.
And the uk still like, well, weare close friends with ukraine,
we don't need america, we haveeurope.
And europe is like, uh, no yeahI don't know man, and and part
of it, I think too is thateurope relies on either russian

(01:59:11):
or american energy.
Yeah, so uk does not ish.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
So who do you think's going to get out of nato first?
It's a good question because Isit going to be the Europeans
that say fuck NATO, we're done,or is it going to be the
Americans?

Speaker 3 (01:59:32):
Yeah, it's a very good question.
I would certainly like to seeit be the Americans, because
that will be the nail in thecoffin of NATO, an organization
that we have not needed for 30years, actually more than that
even, but let's say, generously,30 years.

(01:59:52):
It's beyond its mission.
I would love to see it inAmericans.
I don't know if it's going tobe Americans, but I think some
of the countries that have noplans to increase their military
budgets or their contributionsto that it's going to be a hard

(02:00:13):
press for them to stay in it.
Because so why being analliance where the united states
has effectively said we willnot protect you unless you pay,
and they're not going to pay,like they don't have the budget
to pay.
So what it's like?
Purely symbolic but with zeromeaning.

(02:00:35):
So I think we may see anexiting of some of these
countries out of nato.
Other countries, like poland,are very pro-nato but antiU,
which is an interesting thing.
So if the US leaves NATO, Ithink that kind of flips Poland
into not wanting to be in NATO,because then the only countries

(02:00:56):
in NATO are European countrieswith whom it has a lot of
conflict and I can see Polandimmediately seeking a bilateral
know, unilateral or bilateral uhdefense treaty with us.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
yeah exactly, and here's the thing if the uk
actually had a decent governmentthe uk doesn't have a trade
deal with the eu, the the ukshould be saying you know what
america?
We want to be part of the newamerican empire.

Speaker 3 (02:01:24):
We want to trade with you, let us into nafta right,
yeah, hey, by the way, somebodymade a great point about the
gulf of america.
What's that?
Which is the?
The continent that the gulf isin is north america, yeah, yeah,
it's not north mexico, right,and so, yeah, that point's been

(02:01:48):
made quite a bit, okay.
Well, it's the first time Iheard.
It was yesterday.
I hadn't heard this pointbefore and I was like, well,
hell, that's actually logical,like that's not even a you know,
go america, that's that's rightlike it was actually a lot of
yeah, yeah yeah, and that morethings ought to be like that.
Where that we're, we're tryingto be unbiased, and a gulf of

(02:02:11):
mexico or a gulf of unitedstates of america like that
would be equally biased, but agulf of america is saying, hey,
we're all on the americancontinent in there.
So yeah, I agree makes sense tome cool uh, apparently george
foreman died uh, oh, yeah, yeah,that's right.

(02:02:34):
So george, george, george andgeorge are going to be very sad
right now.
You know, all his kids arenamed george no, I did not know
that yeah, yeah, he named allhis kids george.
Yeah, 76 brilliant guy who soldhis name rights for millions,
like I think it was over 100million uh to that, uh really

(02:02:58):
grill you know the georgefallman grill george Grill,
which became really synonymouswith the whole home indoor
grilling movement.

Speaker 1 (02:03:09):
Yep and I had a George Foreman Grill.

Speaker 3 (02:03:13):
I had multiple.
It was fantastic it was.
I love the fact it was the bestlittle hot plate sort of thing
ever and I love the fact that itdrained the fat out of it so
that you weren't like fryingshit, you were literally like
cooking stuff, meaning burgersand meats and things.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
And then having the fat just drain off into a dish,
yeah, versus cooking it in thepan, and why that was different?
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:03:40):
Yeah, because in the pan it doesn't drain, so you're
cooking in oil.
Exactly yes.
Instead of cooking out the oil,which is the same thing with
the air fryer is that that theoil, the fat, drips off, yeah,
drips down into the pan, and andthe food is cooked.
Above that, with aircirculating all the way around,
makes for a, uh, a very tastymeal, but without the fat.

(02:04:03):
So, yeah, I always liked him, Iliked his sense of humor, I
thought that the grill thing wasgreat.
I guess, Rip George, Rip Georgeexactly.

Speaker 1 (02:04:21):
Alright, Gene, We'll catch you next week.
Man Sounds good.
Bye Later.

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