115 Just Two Good Old Boys

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Howdy Ben, how are you today?
I'm doing all right, Gene.
We just had a forceful restartto the show we were about to
start.
And I went to save a PDF andapparently something with the
PDF was not good andblue-screened the machine Wait.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Adobe software is not good, hold on.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Headline, so we had a premature show ending before we
started.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well, it's okay and you were late.
Now I was late, so we can justgo from there, I was not late.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
If I text you, that doesn't count.
Okay, I said I'm walkingupstairs.
Jesus Alright, busy week, lotsof news.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Where do you want to start?
I know where I want to start?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Where do you want to start?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Judges getting arrested.
Who Judges?
Getting arrested who.
Judges getting arrested?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, let's talk about that Sure Kick off from
there.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
So ICE arrested judges, which is awesome.
Which is weird that it was ICE,except that it was in relation
to harboring apparent gangmembers.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I mean, we've been operating as a third world
country for a while, and havingcorrupt judges be arrested is
not that unusual in third worldcountries like we are?

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Fair, but at the same time, it's still not normal for
this country and it's it'srefreshing, I'll put it that way
it is.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
It is.
It harkens back to a timebefore, uh, you know, men were
women, indeed.
Um, I'm all for it, and I knowthere's obviously a whole slice
of the libertarian wing that'slike oh, just careful, what you

(02:14):
wish for.
You're gonna see the nextpresident come in and round up
all the conservative judges andput them in gitmo.
Well, if they're not breakingthe law, there's nothing to
arrest them for, is there?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
well, regardless, what it comes down to is you.
You can't look if people arebreaking the law.
You have to either remove andrepeal the law or, you know, uh,
do something about it.
So it's that simple.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
And they're doing something about it which is kind
of nice, Immune fromprosecution.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
They're not, they are not nor are their wives who are
helping, and so on.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, and let's see how they like having their
family separated.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
we'll see what happens, yeah, and we'll go from
there yeah, yeah and uh, theymay have some uh outstanding
international warrants too.
How so well, I think they'reinterfering with the prison
process of uh, of uh, which wecall where we're sending people.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I mean I doubt that's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
File international warrants for them.
We have the treaties in place,and then it'd be up to the Trump
administration whether theyextradite them or not, which
would be hilarious, by the way.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, they end up in the shipping.
Our judges, judges to elsalvador.
Yep, what do we do?
Yeah, oh no, it it'sinteresting, it's, it's, it's.
We've been begging and wantingto see arrests, and you know,

(04:04):
what's striking to me is this isrelated to one set of things,
but it's a ballsy enough moveand it gives me hope that some
of the other things.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I was gonna talk about shit out of people.
Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Well, you remember I sent you a story, literally a
story, uh, read in an audiobooklike format about yeah yeah
about uh ice and corrupt judgesand uh throwing a dossier down
and saying you are no longer onthis case, my friend, because
you're under investigation.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, and I think, like I love that style.
To me, that's the kind of shitthat I always enjoyed listening
to, is sort of you know, anarrative, but like a dramatic
voice narrative of actualreal-life events.
Ah, okay, it's.
If I could get all my news inthat format, that would be my

(05:07):
preference.
Honestly, it's part of thereason I think I've always
enjoyed podcasts like uh, noagenda is because it it has that
certain feeling.
Now I do think that, um, for mypreference, no agenda has too
many clips.
I I liked it more in the earlydays when there was more
conversation between adam andjohn and not just like clip,

(05:31):
clip, clip.
Yeah, that was pretty good.
Clip, clip, clip.
But okay, but some people don'tlike clips.
I mean that, like, there'splenty of people that like shows
like ours which don't use clips.
So it really depends on whatyou're looking for, I guess.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, it's just.
One is more of a pure opinion,the other is you know, hey, I'm
going to back up my opinion withsomething.
Yeah, we're doing an editorialCorrect.
Yeah, because part of that isbecause we're lazy.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Let's, let's admit it , not really well I am.
I'm not going to call you lazy,but I I think that there's a.
It's a combination of things.
It is not having to look forclips, but it's not like I don't
come across them like how muchshit do I send you on a daily
basis?
Too much, too much, exactly.
So I have the clips.
It's not the issue.
The issue is that what I thinkis interesting and what I care

(06:30):
about is your opinion, not anopinion in a clip that I could
watch myself okay, fair enoughyeah, so anyway, judge is
getting arrested and I thinkwe're both for it, I think.
I think this bodes well as towhat is, by the way, why are we

(06:50):
calling them judges?
Why don't we call them whatthey actually are Criminals,
criminals.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, cause he was a judge.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, Former judge current criminal.
Yep, mm hmm.
Like are you still a lawyer ifyou get disbarred?
I think people would say formerlawyer, are you still a doctor
if you uh, get sued formalpractice and get kicked out

(07:17):
of the american medicalassociation?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
well anyway, point is this is interesting and it's
interesting timing given asuicide we had.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
I didn't hear about that.
What's going on there, dude?
Check your ex dude.
I was on x yesterday.
I don't need to be on x anymore than every eight or 12
hours.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Uh-huh.
Well, I sent you a note andthis is kind of where I think
it's going, but I've got to gofind it now, If you sent it to
me, it'll be sitting in here.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Was it the one where you were making fun of me
writing a tricycle?

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I don't know that I did that, but okay.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
This is for midi accuracyity.
It's all happening, yeah no no,it's his name ben I'm making it
publicly known that in no way,shape or form, am I suicidal
okay, virginia, bro, or whatwho's that?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
she was one of the.
She was the girl that accusedPrince Andrew, or whoever, of
diddling around Epstein's Island.
And she has said for a longtime that she would not commit
suicide and is not suicidal.
She made public declarationsthat she was not suicidal, kept
saying that and then, well, shecommitted suicide, apparently.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
And this goes along with what I've been saying for
how long we?
Will never see the epstein list.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Forget about it, move on um, I actually kind of with
the arrest of the judges andthen this move being made
against her, assuming she didn'tcommit suicide because she said
she wasn't going to.
I think that this might beindication that we've got to get
rid of some of the evidencethat you know before it comes in

(09:20):
.
You know.
So it's not just a list.
Yeah, it's witnesses.
Yeah, it's witnesses, it'sstuff like that.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
But that's my point is like doyou remember the last scene in
the movie Casino?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
I don't know that I ever watched the movie.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Oh, it's a great movie.
I would recommend watching it.
It's a classic, but it's ascene where the mob bosses have
all been arrested.
It's right at that transitionpoint where Vegas becomes like a
corporate city instead of a mobcity.
And as they're sitting togetherwith handcuffs on, they're

(09:57):
talking about you know, we gottrials coming up, we got a clean
house, we got to cut somelosses here.
We got trials coming up, we gota clean house, we got to cut
some losses here.
And then they start listing offthe captains right, the guys
that are actually like in chargeof the field units, because

(10:17):
these are the big bosses.
They don't do anything andthey're like yeah, jimmy, two
Hands good, solid guy he's.
You know, my nephew's weddingblah, blah, blah.
You know he's not going to talk, he's blah blah.
How about you know John Smith,or whatever?

(10:38):
Good guy?
He's been a solid earner for usfor 40 years.
His dad worked for my old man.
But yeah, but, yeah, you knowit's not one of us all, right,
let's get rid of him.
I think that's the kind ofclipping that's about to happen.
Is that people that are notdirectly even able to implicate

(10:58):
somebody, but have sometendential knowledge?
They know a little too much.
They're going to startcommitting suicides.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well, that's kind of my point, but that would
indicate that there's going tobe a move made on this.
I'm hopeful.
I'm hopeful.
Part of the reason why wehaven't seen some of the Epstein
stuff is because they did findthe actual real files.
The rest of them, they wentthrough it and went holy shit,

(11:27):
we're gonna have to do a bunchof arrests all at once and it's
gonna have to be coordinated,otherwise we're not like a big,
big coordinated arrest thing,yeah, where half the government
gets arrested in one dayprobably a third, but yeah yeah,
it'd be interesting.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
We haven't seen that scenario play out too often
again.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Third world countries it happens, but and that one
here- so, uh, nick ferretas dida very interesting episode on
whether or not um the unitedstates will get a caesar.
Did you watch that one?
I started watching it oh, youneed to go around by well, the

(12:07):
point he makes is well, whichtype of caesar are we talking
about?
Right?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
because that's anyway .
He goes through cincinnati, ofcourse.
What other kind is there,uh-huh?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
god damn it.
Anyway it's.
Uh, it was fairly interestingarguments and it was it's worth
a listen.
I would recommend anyone who'sinterested yeah, go back to it,
go, go, watch it.
It's, it's worth it.
Um, anyway, the uh, the.

(12:42):
The entire point here is shitlike this has happened
throughout history.
It's also interesting becausethe last episode they did was on
some of the political cycles ofgoing from you know a king to

(13:02):
you know someone who's worthy ofthat position, who has earned
it, to a tyrant, um, to thendemocracy and revolution and so
on yeah, yeah, it's, it's, yeah,it's.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Cyclists exist.
Hard to argue that, yeah,anyway.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
So it's interesting because we are in the stage of
the cycle of democracy, yeah,and we're in the late stages of
democracy.
So are we then going to fall toa king?

Speaker 3 (13:40):
What's that going to?

Speaker 1 (13:41):
be, yeah.
I don't think it's going to beTrump.
God we can.
What's that gonna be?
Yep, yeah, I don't think it'sgonna be trump, but, um, you
know, it could be more of atemporary dictator.
Uh, ask thing, if we arrest athird of the congress and senate
that would be interesting andyou know, dictator didn't used
to have the connotation that itdoes today, so no, no, that's

(14:02):
true.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Um, yeah, I mean like if it wasn't for people giving
a bad name to dictator.
It's just a different form ofgovernment.
I always said I would make agreat dictator okay you know I'm
very benevolent.
I just want to tweak thingshere and there, make the country
run smoother.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I just want to tweak things here and there, Make the
country run smoother.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Well, you know it's and I have the most important
quality of a dictator.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
If you look at what like Cincinnatus did and the way
you know there have been thosepeople in history, but they are
extremely rare?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah, yeah, we sure are.
So, uh, one of my tweets that'sbeen getting a lot of thumbs
ups or whatever arts, whateverthe hell the measurement is
these days was saying uh, judgesare not royalty.
They should be held to a higherstandard than the average
citizen there seems to be aconsensus, at least on Twitter,

(15:12):
with that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I don't think anyone's going to complain about
If they were truly harboringTrinidad and Argyle in their
house, in their guest house andstuff like that.
Iam, you know, in their house,in their guest house and stuff
like that.
Yeah, I mean, is the judgegoing to argue?
Oh, I didn't know, he was agang member.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I think they always argue that you can't prove he's
a gang member, because he sayshe's not Therefore he's not Some
of the tattoos make it prettydamning.
Well, we're going to arrestpeople for fashion statements.
Now, what's next?
We're going to start arrestingpeople just because they're
holding up guns at a bankrobbery, and they happen to be

(15:54):
there for fashion purposes.
Come on man.
It's ridiculous.
There's way more than a thirdof the country that should be
arrested right now.
Well, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
It may be that we never get anything, but at the
same time, when ICE goes in andarrests a judge and his wife
like this, that gives me somehope.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Let me ask you a question why does Laura Loomer
keep getting recommended to meon X?
Adam, probably.
Yeah, that's right, they'rebuddies, they're neighbors, yeah
yeah, yeah.
Makes sense.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
They both live in Fredericksburg.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I mean, I think they're even closer than that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh man, dealing with car insurance these days and
just having to get a car andchange things out because of
hail damage is just insane.
And the way they're doing thevaluations is insane.
Oh really, yeah, what theyconsider comps and everything

(17:09):
else and fighting with our havelike 180 000 miles on um.
So this is two other cars thatare on my insurance.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Okay, okay, that's true yeah, so you know anyway my
, my truck is fine and my truckhas 217 000 miles.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Oh, thank you, I'm sorry I was off.
Yeah, yeah, do you like rentthat to mexicans across the
border all the time for gettingthat many miles, or how do you
get that many miles?

Speaker 1 (17:39):
uh, I bought it new in 2013 and I'm still driving it
I've.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I bought my uh grand cherokee in 2014 and it's got 43
000 miles okay I'm just makingyou don't drive as much as I do.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
I mileage car.
I do have a high mileage car,do you?
Uber no.
Okay, I just drive a lot.
For the first few years ofhaving that car, I was driving
110 miles a day for work on around trip, damn.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Hey, let me ask you a question do you still have that
um allergy thing happen?
What do you mean?
Well, you're like coughing andsneezing and wheezing and all
kinds yes okay, why?
So I've got a.
I'll give you the deets off air, obviously.
But uh, I talked to a guy thathad out of Dallas.

(18:45):
That said he got horribleallergies and he found a place
in Dallas where they went anddid a whole bunch of tests and
then fixed his allergies.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
He has no allergies anymore.
Was it just an ENT?
No, I think it just an ENT.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
No, I think it's an allergy specialist.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Is he?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
on like pills or shots or what.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
He's not on pills.
I think he said that his wifeand him go in like once a
quarter or something to get ashot.
Yeah, I don't know that I wantto do some of the allergy
medicine shots because that'sjust side effects, dude.
Side effects.
I don't think it's medicine,dude, I think it's.
Uh, it's very natural.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
But anyway, I'll get you the info I'll connect you
through there.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I just figured we needed the bingo card for a
health topic.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
But go ahead yeah, well, I'm going to do an allergy
test monday.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
So there you go okay, well, they did that at this
place as well, but it's um, Ithink, uh, there are many ways
to deal with things likeallergies and it's not.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
It's not just killing the symptoms either well, it's
like rewiring your immune systemwell, hopefully I really would
appreciate it, cuz man it's,it's bad, it's just like
constant.
Yeah, it's terrible.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
I had a freaking cold for a week and a half and I
feel horrible and I couldn'timagine doing this like non-stop
yeah all right.
So we've talked about the uhepstein witness killing herself,
even though she said she wasn'tgoing to, which is pretty
interesting to me, um you know,one of the signs of people who

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are going to commit suicide istalking about suicide a lot.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
And saying that they're not going to do it.
Well, it doesn't matter whatthey say it's just, if you talk
about the topic a lot, it'sactually an indicator.
Well, maybe she did so what dowe think of Russia bombing Kiev?
About time, I think they'vebeen taking too damn long to do

(21:12):
that myself.
But, uh, why?
What do you think about it?
Um, oh, I think they.
I think they, um, they shouldhave done it a long time ago if
they were going to do it.
I think that where we're gettingto in the line in the sands on

(21:34):
the peace deal, about saying,hey, you know, territory
currently controlled by Russiais going to be recognized as
territory of Russia, andZelensky just being delusional
enough to think that he has anybargaining chips when trump is
sitting there telling him no,when putin is sitting there

(21:55):
telling him no, everyone is verymuch on the same page saying no
, and I, I just don't know howzolinski is still in power.
I, I really don't like.
I don't know how he's alive Idon't know how the ukrainians
have allowed that to happen oh,they haven't overthrown them.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I don't know, man, it's.
Uh, I think that that obviouslythe west has been.
Well, let's not separate the usfrom the west.
Europe has been drinking thekool-aid along with ukraine,
obviously, they they arepretending like this war has

(22:40):
been in a victory conditionsince day one.
Uh, it's always been.
Ukraine is winning.
Um, if we look at the maps ofcontrol, obviously the picture
is the exact opposite, with theexception of one big push from
ukraine.
It's always been moving theborder in one direction, uh, but

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the us is stillteeter-tottering.
I feel, uh, trump hasn't donethe thing that you and I
originally talked about, whichwould be great for him to do,
but he didn't, which isessentially, say not my problem.
It's more important to the usto normalize relations with

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Russia and main and controlChina than it is to keep
propping up and sending a bunchof money to what is obviously a
lost cause and a dictatorship.
So until that happens, I thinkthat a lot of the EU guys are
still going to pretend the US isbacking Ukraine and, frankly,

(23:44):
until the us stops sending moneyto ukraine, which it still has
stopped.
No, all the all the salaries arestill paid by the us.
Every person that works for theukrainian government receives a
salary that is paid by the us.
Until that stops, oh, the onlything we've done is we've
stopped sending arms.
Well, that's just a piece ofthe pie, that's not the whole

(24:07):
pie.
So when it's their opportunityto come to work and there's no
salary to collect, at the end ofthe day, I suspect there'll be
a different government.
Right now, we're still proppingup the Ukrainian government and
Trump.
Saying Putin stop makes Trumplook very weak.

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He either needs to do somethingto make Putin stop or just say
nothing and move on, becausesaying stop and then watch as
the war continues and evenescalates is effectively.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
But he hasn't really said putin stop.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
He literally said that.
That's a quote from him.
He said putin, stop.
It was two days ago all right.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
In what context?

Speaker 3 (24:54):
because I didn't see that like stop he was doing
another one of his pressers fromthe right, but he's not, he's
not going to.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
If he said that just literally.
Hey, I really want you to stopdoing this.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
He's saying we're trying to get the peace
negotiations going and Putinneeds to stop, stop attacking,
stop bombing, stop whatever.
Okay, don't say shit unlessyou're going to be able to back
it up.
Agreed.
So he would have said putinstop or will resume supplying

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weapons to ukraine.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
That would have been more forceful well, or even if
he had just said hey, putin,stop, or you know you're gonna
have to fight this out the wholeway because we're, you know
we're, we're backing off, we'renot doing this yeah, but now
also that would, because that'dbe a threat to zelinsky more

(25:54):
than anything?

Speaker 3 (25:55):
well, it would be.
And and yesterday somebodyasked them very aggressively, as
typical liberal media wouldthis is well.
What has in all thisnegotiation with Russia?
What has Putin?
It wasn't agreed to?
What has Putin not negotiated?

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but compromised yeah yeah,what's he compromised or
conceded?
And Trump says to not take allof Ukraine.
I couldn't believe that cameout of his mouth.
It's obviously what everybody'sthinking, but no one's actually
said it that way, because theEuropean trolls keep pretending

(26:39):
that Zelensky's on the verge ofwinning the war.
But I think that was the firsttime I heard Trump say something
so clearly obvious and I thinkit came out of frustration,
because it's typically not thekind of thing you say in
negotiation.
But he said it is that theposition that Putin is willing

(27:03):
to negotiate is in not takingthe whole country, which
effectively means that themilitary analysts that are
providing data to Trump havesaid it's probably about nine

(27:23):
months and the whole country'sgone.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Well, I think it could go much faster than that,
to be honest with you, sure,sure.
I think it would be relativelyeasy for Russia, and you know
people can argue this.
But I think if Russia wanted tojust start using nuclear

(27:47):
artillery or you know, anyadvance if we pull back?
The only thing that's stoppingthem from having complete air
superiority is the Patriotmissile system that we're
operating over there for Kiev,and if we stop doing that, it's

(28:07):
over.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah, but here's the problem is it's not over until
somebody with some poweractually admits defeat, right?
So if Zelensky is sittingsomewhere else in Europe or in

(28:28):
Florida and shooting with agreen screen that looks like
Ukraine behind him and he keepsdoing that, the country is going
to keep getting pummeled.
So at what point do we juststop listening to Zelensky and
just say Ukraine needs a realgovernment to make a decision
about its future, and thatdecision is going to limit the

(28:54):
amount of loss of territory?
But Zelensky, if he stays in,will only help ensure that more
and more territory disappearsforever.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Well, I mean, I think , if Trump is going out and
saying publicly that you knowwhat Putin has conceded is that
he's not going to take the restof this, the liberal position, I
know, is going to be well, youcan't trust Putin, and I don't
know if we can or can't.
But the real idea here is look,we are not going to fight this

(29:37):
war for the Ukrainians.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
No.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
And if he takes Ukraine let's say he decides in
six months to just take all ofUkraine what does that have to
do with us?
Oh well, then he'll go toPoland.
Okay well, poland's a tighterally.
We have a lot more economicties, we've got a lot of things
going on there.
Yeah, we are not going to allowthat.

(30:01):
Now are we going to trade, youknow, levive, uh, for boston, no
, um, but again, why do we careabout ukraine?

Speaker 3 (30:19):
so that's where I'm at yeah, well, the previous
administration certainly did,and the amount of money that's
been stolen from US taxpayersand funneled over there, that's
the real crime.
That is much bigger impact tothe United States than what a
couple of Slavic countries arehashing over themselves

(30:46):
themselves.
Like the amount of money thateither didn't have to be
collected or, if it wascollected, would have been used
for better purposes, probablysecond to none.
I can't.
I mean, maybe world war ii is abigger expenditure that we had,
but I I know we spent moremoney on ukraine than we did on
uh, on vietnam, like um.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
We've given ukraine more military and economic aid
in the handful of years thanisrael has gotten since its
inception yeah yeah and evenwhen an anti-semitic person says
that, I mean, that has somevibe to it.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
It's true, I'm not anti-semitic.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I didn't say it was you I just said randomly some
random person if they said that,no, that that is true.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Uh, people always say that, well, israel is
consistently the biggestrecipient of us aid.
Uh, and that's, I think,historically been the case and I
don't agree with it.
You don't agree with it.
We need to defund israel.
I've been saying that for years.
However, it's hard to ignorethe fact that we you're
absolutely right that 50 yearsof Israeli aid is less than

(31:53):
three years of Ukrainian aid.
Yeah, it's insane.
For what reason?
Like it seemed like Trump cameup with a reason Well, we get
their resources ad infinitum.
Like we own their resources nowas trade.
Okay, that seemed like a fairdeal or a fairer deal, and then

(32:19):
Zelensky clearly backed awayfrom that and wasn't going to
sign anything to that.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Well, I mean, it looks like he signed away some
of those resources already tothe British.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Right, right, and I think that was more as a show of
uh well, fuck you America, andso it's such a clusterfuck.
People are not living inreality, they don't comprehend,

(32:57):
and the UN was set up to keepthem in their place and not from
causing major wars like Europehas caused in the past.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Right, but we could have left Europe devastated and
gone on a major expansionistroute and there would have been
no one to stop us.
Yep Like we could have easilygone to russia and said we don't
care what you do in europe.
You go do whatever you want todo in europe, we're going to do
what we want to do in theamericas and we could have
traded.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
We could have traded russia a huge chunk of eastern
siberia for europe.
They would have taken thatbecause they don't give a shit
about.
They've got so much forest andnatural resources up there, they
don't care and certainly.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Why would we want it?
Why would we want siberia?

Speaker 3 (33:52):
why didn't we want alaska same reason I don't know
it's got cool looking bears.
Cool bears live there, manuh-huh that's why we want alaska
.
That's why we want siberia.
Do you?
Do you not want to like have apet bear?
I don't understand how peopledon't want a pet bear.

(34:21):
It's no, I don't we thinkdifferently about this one dude,
the size turd that I had toclean up yesterday from the pet
snake I've never seen a turdthis big?
Why are?

Speaker 1 (34:36):
you?
Why are we talking about yoursnakes defecation?

Speaker 3 (34:39):
because I it's, it is impressive.
I almost took a photo and thenI thought, well, I don't know,
man, people are going to thinkthat's weird.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
It would have been very weird.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yes, it is literally.
It was the size of a.
What do you call those things?

Speaker 1 (34:57):
A snake.
No it wasn't the size of asnake.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
No, I mean like thickness-wise, this was no
human tur wasn't the size of asnake.
No, I mean like thickness wise,this was no human turd way
bigger than a human turd.
This, this was the size of likea uh eggplant good god yeah, I
know it's like holy shit, thisthing's growing bigger.
So yeah, now he's sleepingright now.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I gotta feed him tomorrow so you sent me a funny
meme uh which one that I thinkhas some interesting
connotations to it about uh jdvance seeing the pope right
before.
Oh yeah yeah, yeah go aheadright before he passed.
So you know, and it's funnythat they're actually going

(35:46):
around and saying, no, jd Vancedidn't kill the Pope, and
everything else people areactually going around and saying
this and I think it's justhilarious.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I think people underestimate JD Vance okay, I
think the guy JD Vance Okay.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
I think the guy has some serial skills.
He can go tell Europe what wethink of them.
And then we got a liberal pope.
Well, he took care of that.
So next one sounds like he'sgoing to be a little more
conservative.
Maybe We'll see.
Well, if it's that black dude,he's definitely going to be a
little more conservative.
Maybe We'll see.
Well, if it's that black dude,it's definitely going to be more

(36:24):
conservative.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, do you really think that they're going to put
in a black dude?

Speaker 3 (36:30):
They're due.
I mean they're about due for ablack pope.
Well, they already had aMexican pope.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
When.
The last one.
No, he wasn't.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Okay, very white is all I'm saying Well, that's the
talking powder.
Anyway, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
We'll see what the conclave comes up with.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
He's south american, yeah, but not mexican, and not
like well, I use mexican as ageneral term of south of us
right, but the hispanics in.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Uh, you know you can be hispanic and pretty white, so
so, I don't know I can, yeah,sure.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Well, either way, we'll see what happens.
I'm betting on the black guy.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
All right, all right, I'll take that bet.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
All right.
Sounds like a plan.
What else, Graham?
You tell me Okay, let's seewhat else we going on.
You tell me Okay, let's seewhat else we have here we talked
about the war.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
It is pretty strange to me that Vance saw the Pope
just a few hours before he died.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Well technically, we don't know that he actually saw
the Pope.
He may have seen one of hisbody doubles.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Fair enough, but it's interesting why let the Pope go
now?
If you subscribe to that theorythat he has body doubles and
everything else, why now?

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Why the timing?
The?
Timing well, he was old, sure,I mean, just naturally he was
not a youngster.
Um, I don't know, it's a toughone.
I what I know is from thepeople that I would call friends
, who happen to be of thecatholic cult persuasion.

(38:43):
Um, none of them like them,none of them like this pope.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
No, he was fairly unpopular with any conservative
catholic.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah and and he.
They always brought up the factthat historically there have
been plenty of popes which wentagainst the church and then were
, you know, eventually died orgot kicked out or whatever so I
think there's a, there's a hopefor a more conservative pope

(39:15):
coming in from a lot of people,a lot of Catholics.
Whether that happens, obviouslyit's a political game.
There's a great TV series thatwas on called Borgia.
I don't think you would haveprobably watched it.

(39:37):
No.
It was done very well.
It was a european production,so it had plenty of sex in it
and um it.
It looked at the rise ofrodrigo borgia and, uh, I think

(39:59):
fairly accurately reflected alot of the happenings in the
church at the time.
And really the thing you haveto remember is that they're not
just electing a religious leader, they're not just electing

(40:20):
somebody who's sitting onPeter's throne.
They're electing the head ofthe country, which just raised
its age of consent from 13 to 15.
Yeah, just saying.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
So there is the head of state aspect, but I don't
again.
That's part of the reason why Ithink the globalists are going
to push for a pretty liberalpope again.
Um, I don't know that we'll seea conservative pope.
I don't know that theconservative catholic side is
strong enough, but we'll see,because that is the side that

(41:02):
has been growing.
Yeah, did you see trump uhtalking about greenland, saying
he wasn't trolling aboutacquiring it?
yeah, yeah he asked him yeah,you just hurry up and do it
actually.
No, I'm not said trump when hewas asked if he was trolling
about Canada and Greenland.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
So we'll see.
I think Greenland would make anawesome addition.
I don't understand what the bigbrouhaha is.
Obviously they'll be better offwith us.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I would think so.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Yeah, now one interesting thing.
I don't know any details aboutthis, but I heard through X that
whoever the guy was that wasthe top military US military
dude in Greenland Station gotretired.
Okay.

(41:53):
And I don't know anything aboutwho replaced him or why he ended
up getting retired, but clearlythere was some political
disagreements there, that'sinteresting.
Yeah, so he got replaced to amore Trump-friendly type person.
But I don't know, man.
I kind of feel like they'rejust waiting for there to be

(42:13):
enough support in Greenland forTrump to make the trip himself
and then actually announce it onhis trip that Greenland is now
part of the united states.
And what are they?
Gonna do about it seriously.
What are they gonna do?
uh, freak out what is denmarkgonna declare war on the united

(42:37):
states for stealing theirterritory halfway around the
world?

Speaker 1 (42:40):
I mean, it would be interesting if they tried to.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Oh, I would love to see that.
That would be awesome.
Now, hey, putin, got a newtarget for you.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
We're not gonna we're not gonna care if denmark
becomes part of russia you know,it's amazing to think that
we're just now in yet the end ofthe first hundred days of
Trump's term.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
I know it feels like the first four years are over.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Right, it's really insane.
And what's really interestingis when you look at the state of
where things are on just theinjunctions, you know how much

(43:27):
more could he be getting done ifhe didn't have these
potentially unconstitutionalinjunctions?
Across the swath.
Yeah, I mean trump has like athird of all injunctions ever
issued at this point againstpresidents.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
I believe it, yeah, but he's also I think got like a
third of all executive ordersever issued as well uh, not
quite, but of all presidentsever in the history of
presidency he's done quite a bitsome of it I don't, some of it
I don't like you know.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Close like some of the reform of education stuff,
trying trying to get AI in thereand subsidizing that.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
It's a buzzword thing at this point.
I don't know man, I wouldrather that we have robot
teachers than real teachers atthis point.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
No, because it depends on who's programming the
fucking robot.
This is why you don't have yourkids in school.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
I know, but I would rather have the robots because
we're more likely to be able tocontrol the programming on them
than we are to control theprogramming and the blue hairs
so sure, if I can have a robotat home that I choose how and
what it teaches my kids.
Yep, fine, yeah it used to becalled the wife, but still right

(44:41):
, I think that there's nothingthere.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yeah, what happened there's?
I'll tell you what happened.
Yep, fine, yeah, it used to becalled a wife, but still, right,
what happened there?

Speaker 3 (44:43):
What happened there is.
I'll tell you what happened the19th.
That's what happened.
Yeah, you know that answerbefore I say it.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
You know, I, I would say Gen Z.
It's pretty fucking funny.
I was talking to mystepdaughter and, um, you know,
I to my stepdaughter and um, youknow, I said we were talking
about a lot of things becausewe're going to look at cars and
get this replaced.
And I said, you know, I don'tthink everybody needs to vote.
And she said I agreed.
And I said, well, what if wedid this?

(45:12):
And I threw out the draft ideaand she said that's fine, I
don't want to vote anyway.
That's good, cool.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yeah, I think that's a actually a really legitimate
way of doing it without doing iton on timcast tim not every
show, but I regularly ask femaleguests if they're, you know, if
they're willing to give upvoting, and most of them say yes
yeah, but that's a selectionbias for who he has on the show,

(45:41):
though, too.
I know, I know, I know, butstill it's nice to hear.
Yeah.
I think it makes sense and youand I have talked at Infinite
about the idea that citizensshould be earned, not received,
and that there's inherently abenefit to having a, a test or a

(46:04):
gate for citizenship and notjust allowing any old person,
purely due to their geographiclocation, become a citizen.
Yeah.
So, uh, what else?
Uh, do you watch that CharlieKirk video that I sent you?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
that then a week later you sent me on uh bill
maher yeah, no yeah, yeah, I'mbill maher yeah, yeah, I did
pretty good right, very goodyeah, I mean, he's making the
argument I've made to you for along time and he's making the
argument that a lot of peoplehave made with, um, uh, just the

(46:44):
basis of mere christianity andeverything else, modernized and
explained I like charlie kirk.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
I think he he's an ugly dude, but he's uh, he's got
the right temperament, maybebecause he's kind of ugly, but
um, uh, I think that he's beenuh, um, he's been doing good.
He's been attacking the rightpieces that need to be attacked,

(47:13):
which is, uh, specifically theuh, specifically the educational
indoctrination components, andbeing on college campuses, being
in front of crowds of peoplethat generally disagree with him
.
I feel like that's a.

(47:39):
It's not a place most peoplewant to be, and so I like the
fact that he's actually willingto stand up in those, in those
locations well, and I think youknow the.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
His entire organization is geared around
getting getting the youth votewhere it needs to be.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Yeah, yeah yeah, I I thought it was pretty funny
about how intimidated he was ofum, uh, what's his face?
The host guy, bill maher billyeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Why do you think he was?

Speaker 3 (48:22):
intimidated.
Oh, he was definitelyintimidated.
If you watched that firstportion and actually did you
watch his Deconstructing myAppearance on Bill Maher video?
No, I didn't.
Yeah, he did that as well,where he went through the whole
video and talked about it moreat length.
But you know, I mean you guys,basically Bill Maher has been on

(48:43):
TV his entire life, since hewas born and he may not be a
huge fan of Bill Maher, but youcan't help the fact that he's
been very aware of Bill Maher.
He'd be no different thansomebody going on you know Larry
King back in my day.
It's like he may not be thebiggest person on TV, but he's
been around TV forever.
I think Bill Maher kind of fitsthat same role at this point.

(49:05):
So I definitely noticed it inthe beginning.
He relaxed after probably 10,15 minutes of conversation.
But the first 10 minutes.
He was just uptight.
It was pretty visible that hewas not quite in the state of
just chilling with a bro, whichis, ironically, I think this was

(49:29):
one of.
Well, it wasn't one of hisfirst, but it was a while ago.
It was probably.
You're going to have to help mewith memory here.
Who was the guy that originallywe were gonna have the trump
pick for the um?
Matt gates.
Yeah, exactly, good call.

(49:49):
So when mad gates went on, billmaher.
That was the opposite of whatwe saw with Kirk.
Matt Gaetz shows up in shortsand a t-shirt like a Hawaiian
shirt or something.
Yeah, very relaxed, they'retalking about banging chicks

(50:15):
while smoking pot.
They're just like yep, this iswhy I wanted this guy in there.
This dude is like a regulardude.
There's no pretense here.
Plus, it wasn't he like apreacher or something too?

Speaker 1 (50:27):
and that gates?
No, I thought he was not.
That I know of huh, but uh.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Either way, I've always liked mad gates.
I don't mind the fact that hewas also willing to cross the
the aisle on issues where heagrees with the other side.
I think that's an importantthing that more people ought to
be looking at doing and thenusing that to get votes for the
things that we considerimportant as trade, because if

(50:57):
you vote for shit that you don'tcare about, rather than selling
your vote, then you're notgoing to get anything back in
return.
So, anyway, we'll see whathappens with Matt Gaetz, too.
It kind of seemed like he gotfucked, but he didn't seem
particularly pissed off.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
I don't know that.
He got fucked.
I wonder what the plan was.
Well, it's been three months,right?
I don't know that he got fucked.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
I I wonder what the plan?
Well, it's been three monthsright.
What I don't see?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
a plan fair enough, but I I don't know, man, we'll
see.
We'll see I, what ever happened, he's got a show and what he's
doing.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
But he's got a podcast yeah, he's got a podcast
maybe he's gonna replace uhbongino and that big.
He has a thing, uh, editorial.
I'm called the rise and fall ofmad gates and eight wild days.
Hmm, yeah, interesting, hmm,yeah, interesting.

(52:02):
Well, um, yeah, what else?
What else we got?
What else going on?
I know you've been busy, sohave you been watching anything
or reading anything?

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Um, I've been reading uh, reading the latest on our
Harrington book, which is prettygood, but I haven't really been
focused on that, like I havebeen traveling quite a bit and
working quite a bit.
I will say that you know, wecan talk about the tariffs some
if you want, and what I see isthe effect.

(52:39):
So, since I work for a big epcand looking at, you know what is
the effect on our pipeline ofwhat trump has come in and done.
Well, we've seen, um, we'veseen some grants from doe go on.

(53:00):
You know multi-billion dollarprojects, but we've seen a lot
of manufacturing constructionrequests start coming in.
So, for instance, novo Nordiskis starting.

(53:23):
We're pretty tied in with them.
They're going to be buildingPugovie factories here.
Yeah, that's good.
There's lots of interestingthings Chip fab factories
starting construction Datacenters going like crazy yeah,
interesting things.

(53:43):
Chip fab factories startingconstruction data centers going
like crazy.
Um, yeah, we see a lot ofupdates uh happening in uh guam
and puerto rico and we'reinvolved with a lot of them.
So, uh, both to infrastructureand you know, uh, all I can tell
you is it's pretty interestingto see where the investments are
being made.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Yeah, yeah that is interesting.
On a more micro scale, there'sa video that I think is very
good at explaining the potentialdownside of the tariffs.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
The potential downside of the tariffs that was
done by, by Tech Jesus fromGamers Nexus.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
It's his, not his actual name, but but that's what
everybody kind of calls him,because he's got the long hair
and everything you don't sayyeah.
Did you watch the video?
I sent it to you.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
When did you send it to me?
Like a week ago, dude.
You send me a lot of stuff, anda week ago I was pretty effing
busy, so were you okay?

Speaker 3 (54:48):
well it's.
I kind of doubt you would havewatched it anyway, because two
and a half hours long yeah butyou know it.
So gamers nexus is a bit of amisnomer.
They don't do anything withgames.
It's basically a tech show onYouTube where they test the

(55:13):
latest cutting-edge hardware,Whether it's motherboards, CPUs,
GPUs, you name it.
They're the guys who do all thehardcore comparisons and tests
and everything.
And you know big into Linux,bigux, big into like bashing
everybody else.
It's it he was hilarious atlinus's roast.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
If you ever saw license's roast, I've never seen
that no, no, you know what I'mtalking about, though.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
yeah, linus tech tips , yeah, but so he had a roast
about five years ago where, likemost of the tech tech bros,
journalists, whatever you wantto call them from youtube all
came out to roast him.
It was his wife's idea, so itwas pretty damn funny, um, and
this guy was there, and I meanthey had had pretty much
everyone who was anyone in thehardware space.
So this guy did a video wherehe went and interviewed five or

(56:11):
six different companies fromAustin to Nashville to
California that are pretty bignames in the hardware space, to
see what tariffs are alreadydoing with them and what
potential impact there's goingto be, and including companies

(56:34):
like CyberPower, who I'm sureyou've heard of of um, of uh um
oh god, what's the?
uh, the one of the big memorymanufacturers?
Um, I can't remember.
No, it was.
It was a older one, uh, or likethey've been around longer and
crucial like ram, or when you'resaying memory, or do you mean?

(56:58):
storage.
Yeah, I mean, they've gotmultiple products now, but they
kind of got their start inselling RAM, whatever.
Anyway, big companies like thatTalked about iBuy or
interviewed iBuyPower,interviewed that guy that does
the repairs, that used to be inNew York, who's now in Austin.

(57:21):
I forget his name.
You know what I'm talking about, right?
Yeah, kind of New York-yaccented dude.
All about the freedom of fixingyour own stuff movement.
And what's interesting and, Iguess, somewhat predictable
about it, is that a lot of thesecompanies operate on absolutely

(57:44):
minimal margin, meaning five to7%.
Uh, they, they work because ofvolume, in fact, between I buy
power and cyber power, those twobrands which are not related.
They're two different companiescompeting with each other.
Those two companies alone areresponsible for shipping one

(58:08):
million PCs last year.
Okay, a much bigger number thanI would have expected.
I would have thought it'd bethe Dells out there that would
be shipping numbers like thatNot what I consider to be
specialty brands, but um, theywent through are they oeming for

(58:29):
somebody else or no, they'reselling on their own brands,
okay, but you know, they'reessentially uh, I guess dell's
the same thing too.
They're kind of assembly shops,right, so they use other brands'
products in their products.
So when you're buying aniBuyPower, you're buying it

(58:51):
because it's got the Intelprocessor you want and it's got
the NVIDIA card that you want,not because of just their brand.
Like you're getting it becausethey use the shit that you want.
Anyway.
Anyway, you're trying to get toa point.
Yeah, the point being that theyhave already gone upside down,

(59:16):
they're actually losing moneyright now and that, if the
tariff of 100 percent hits all,these companies are going to
stop selling their products inthe united states, even though
they're based in the us, eventhough they're still
manufacturing products.
All those products will only besold outside the united states

(59:38):
because they cannot make moneyin the United States.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
There's a problem with that?
The tariffs don't apply tosemiconductor-based stuff.
There's car rights for that.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
They apparently do.
I think that the list ofexceptions doesn't cover all the
bits in the PC, I'm not evensure it covers video cards, but
they went through and they showhow much impact this is going to

(01:00:10):
have if it stays in, obviously.
And no one's negative about thetariffs.
Everyone's like, yeah, theAmericas let China have its
lunch, but for too long.
Yeah, but, and that's the thingis like, would you use, uh,
american manufactured if youcould?

(01:00:30):
Well, we could, we would loveto.
The problem is the rest of theworld is paying four dollars an
hour, so the only way we cancompete with that in the United
States is if no one can buycheap products in the United
States and their only choice isbuying expensive products.
And I used an iPhone as anexample, which was actually

(01:00:53):
probably a bad example on thePost and X, because iPhones are
excluded.
You know, tim Apple went in anddid a deal with Trump where he
promised to put $500 millioninto a new factory in the United
States and that got him sometime $500 million.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
$500 million is not anything.
On that $500 billion, sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
There you go, yeah, $500 billion into a factory in
the United States.
500 billion, sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
There you go, yeah, 500 billion into a factory in
the United States and I thoughtApple was air shipping tons and
tons of iPhones.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Well, they are air shipping.
But that's the point.
Right Is that they got anexclusion, Because right now,
before they cut out for phones,what would have happened was
nobody in the United Statescould have bought an iPhone 17
because it'd be $3,200.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
That, or Apple doesn't the price of the.
No, they just lower the priceof the finished good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
No, they don't.
Why not?
Because they have profits tomaintain.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Well this is going to eat into their profits but not
selling in the US.
It's way more into theirprofits.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
It doesn't, because their biggest market is China.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
I don't know how true that is.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Well, you should look it up then.
I know it's true they sell waymore iPhones in China alone than
the United States.
But if you look at Europe andother markets, that they're in
the US is only about 20% oftheir market.
So while Americans tend to buyhigher-priced models, that is

(01:02:44):
true.
Where the other countries buycheaper models, the volume more
makes up for it.
So now they got the cutout soit's not going to happen.
So that example was actually apoor example, but it is still
going to be true for otherthings and I think one of the

(01:03:04):
things I actually sent you alink, just kind of my outrage
link, like can you believe thisshit was a listing in new egg
for a whole bunch of differentmanufacturers 50, 90 cards.
So 50, 90 Nvidia 50,90 is thecurrent top of the line NVIDIA

(01:03:28):
gaming GPU Ridiculouslyoverpriced GPU.
It was ridiculously overpricedat a $2,000 list price Like that
by itself.
People were making fun of andsaying this is ridiculous, that
graphics cards have gotten to apoint where not only does it
cost as much as a whole computerused to, but it's starting to

(01:03:50):
get closer to the price of aused car.
Well, the tariff said hold mybeer.
And the current price of thosecards right now is four thousand
dollars and just over fourthousand dollars well, so the
price?

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
you should have built your new gaming pc earlier I
should have.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
I know I totally agree with that at this point.
It's just not going to happen.
I should be content with what Igot, which is not a bad thing
either.
I mean, we all should be alittle more content with what we
have.
Frankly, that's a good lesson.
Uh, something about that in thebible.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
I think too right yeah, well, there's not coveting
your, you know, yeah, yourneighbor's life and all that,
like gluttony, is not a goodthing, true?

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
um, the prices have.
The market has reacted, sothat's one thing.
Another specific example wasthere's a company that makes
high-end joysticks and seeingthat these tariffs were coming,
I put an order in uh it's.
They're actually a belarusiancompany, but they manufacture in

(01:04:59):
China and they're one of thetwo companies that make some of
the best joysticks out there andput an order in for a throttle
which I don't really need.
But I knew that this was goingto be my last chance to buy it
cheap.
I could resell it and just makemoney on it today, literally.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
But okay, if you don't need it, yeah, why are you
getting it?

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
well, I may need it.
I mean, I may want it.
I definitely don't need it, butalso I could.
Just why do you want?
It well, it's kind of neat, soI'll tell you about it.
I mean, I don't know that youreally give a shit, but it's a
unique throttle.
You know what a throttle is,right?
I'm sorry, you know what athrottle controller is for like
a simulator.

(01:05:45):
Yeah, yeah so this takes thatthrottle concept and then tweaks
it for space games by havingthe, the top portion of the
joystick, the bit that your handis actually resting on, also be
able to tilt left or right, orforward or back.

(01:06:07):
Okay, so it's like, becausenormal throttle you just move
front or back, right.
So this thing, just like anairplane throttle, just imagine
on top of a throttle having ajoystick.
That's what makes it kind ofunique, okay.

(01:06:28):
So anyway, and I wanted to testit out and see if I like it I
actually don't like it that much, but it's still unique.
I had to test I had to test, butliterally two days later there
was a notice saying we'vestopped taking all orders for

(01:06:54):
the United States inanticipation of tariffs.
So that's it.
You can't buy them anymore.
Not available, Okay, Okay, Cool.
Which is, I mean?
That's why I need to decide ifI want to flip this and sell it
for twice the price.
If you can, why not?
I should be able to, I think,Because you can't get them and
that's going to make people wantit that much more.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Yeah, have you seen the blank slate auto?
Blank slate auto.
Yeah, so go to slateauto.
Okay, if you haven't seen this,it's a truck.
No, it's a truck, suv, theyhave all it kind of looks like a

(01:07:42):
bronco when you put it in thesu, yeah, but it it's uh
interesting because it's cheapand electric.
So basically you customizeeverything and you set it up,
but they're like they're talkinga pretty interesting price tag
here.
I like the.
Jeep version.
It's too bad, it's electric.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
It's not too bad.
What's wrong with?

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
electric.
I don't want an electric car,whatever.
I don't want to have to chargemy truck.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
This is pretty cool man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
I just saw this.
But anyway, they'recustomizable, full package, Even
if you choose everythingthey're saying under $28,000.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
They're never going to actually ship you one for
that, but that's cool.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
They come with a dog.
It's got a dog in there.
Anyway, I just thought it was amodular car design.
That was kind of interesting.
I wish they made a gas version,because I would totally buy it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Isn't there a modular laptop out there?
I've seen Linus reviewing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
There's a couple of them, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
They ain't good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
I mean, what do you mean?
They're bigger and bulkier andlots of other things.
It's not worth it, you know?
I mean it just depends on whatyou're after, man.
Anyway, I just saw that I likethe jeep version of it.
Yeah, me too.
Kind of looks like a Bronco.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Yeah, the one with the roof off, yeah, and the
seats in the back yeah, allright.
Anyway.
So how much is it Like?

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I said Are you?

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
going to get me to buy a car online while we're
recording a podcast?
Yeah, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Why would you buy a car online while we're?

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
recording a podcast.
I want to take a look at it, orsomething.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Yeah, but it comes in at like $28,000.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
That's fairly inexpensive.
Is it made in China?
It's got to be made in China.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
This is something that's a cash car, you know.
Yeah, it is Looks pretty basic.
Yeah, that's part of the point.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Yeah and oh, it comes in gray.
It only comes in gray.
That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
While you're looking at that, did you see that the
Trump store started sellingTrump 2028 hats?
Nice, cool, that's awesome andeverybody's like oh, he's going
to try.
He's going to try and stay in.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Not only it's not Don Jr, Not only that he should
just not leave.
Yeah, who says he has to leave?
I don't think he has to leave.
Stay as long as you want, Trump.
Yeah.
So the color options are allwraps.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Yeah, you can do different wraps.
That's a great idea.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
So they don't have to worry about paint.
You know, one of my favoritecars was a saturn because it had
plastic body, which was great.
Uh, no issues with uh rust, noissues with hail, like nothing
mattered yeah, I'm sure this,you know, will be very plasticky

(01:10:58):
too that's what I'm thinkingand it feels like, based on the
size of people standing next toit, like this is more of the way
trucks used to be back 20 yearsago.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Yeah, it's, it's like a small truck today.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Yeah, yeah yeah, although the ford rain, not not
the ranger.
What's the little one, the ford?
Uh, the one smaller than theRanger.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
I don't think there is anything smaller than the.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Ranger.
Oh yeah, there is, it's an.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
F-150.
No, the Ranger's, the littlelight-duty truck.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Yeah, but there's a smaller one than the Ranger.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
I do not believe there is the Maverick.
Yeah, okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
So it's more the size of the Maverick, I think.
But the Maverick already gets40 miles to the gallon.
Mm-hmm.
Because you get it with ahybrid, but it's a lot more
expensive.
It's like 40 grand.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Maverick's starting at like 26.
No one buys those.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
Okay, maverick Tremor or the FX4.
Yeah, okay, rick tremor or thefx4.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Yeah, the uh anyway I've been looking at cars a lot
lately, so yeah, yeah, well, youknow, what do you think?
What do you think?
Do you think don jr is evergoing to run?

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
I like don jr.
I, my dad even likes don jr.
We've talked about him.
Uh, I don't know that he hasthe gumption.
I think he's got a goodpersonality.
He's almost like too normal.
I don't know that he has enoughshowmen in him to run Maybe,

(01:12:36):
but I like him, I.
I you know a guy who goesfishing, in the hunting, and uh
wears um, uh, what do you callthat pattern with the squares?
Um flannel, flannel, yeah, yeah, I mean, these are right in my
book okay, cool yeah, what doyou think he's gonna run?

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
I think there's a chance.
Yeah, um, it would actuallykind of be interesting if he.
It would be really interestingbecause he is, I think,
patriotic, I think he has a lotof good ideas.
I think he's a very goodspokesman for his father and it
would be very interesting to seea vance trump ticket in 2028

(01:13:31):
like don jr's vp vp yeah gettingthe experience and everything,
and then yeah you know movingmen?
yeah, then after vance is done,you know, yeah, like I don't see
how the Democrats survive, dude, did you see the spat between
Carville and Hogg?

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah, like Hogg is talking about spending
hundreds of millions of dollarsto go primary.
The Democrats that are not wokeenough.
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
I think you should.
I agree, yep, that's the onlyDemocrats that are dangerous.
So that's a good idea, andCarville is a Clinton-inton the
era democratic operative righthe.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
He would be considered right wing today by
their standards oh, he's a nazi,absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
You know he even married a republican woman.
How dare he right?
Yeah, yeah, mary madeline.
Um, yeah, he's.
Uh, he's a crazy dude, but alsoI I like his cooking show.
He has a cooking show.
He used to have one.
He doesn't have it anymore,he's getting old, but he used to

(01:14:58):
have a cooking show the ragingcajun.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Anyway, I I I thinkg is going to really demolish the
party.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Yeah, that's good.
That's what we need.
That is what we need.
It's nice to take pleasure inthe tears of your enemies.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Some schadenfreude, yes, yeah, some schadenfreude,
yes, yeah yeah, I may have totake a call, because if they
keep calling back, I'm gonna.
Oh, okay, yeah, so it's about avehicle, no, I actually did
purchase a vehicle while we weredoing the show.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
I just didn't say you fucker, god damn it.
You beat me to it you bastard.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Uh, I put a deposit in online so I can go get it
nice, what'd you?

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
what kind of car are you getting?

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
it's a replacement for stepdaughter, so she's not
for your truck.
No, she has a uh ford escapeyeah, I remember that, yeah,
it's getting totaled out becauseof the hail damage.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Crazy how bad it is actually damaged.
Do you actually see?

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
yeah, it's it'sed out because of the hail damage.
Crazy how bad it is actuallydamaged, do you actually see?
Yeah it's.
It's pretty dented up, but it'sjust ridiculous.
The car insurance right nowsucks, so, anyway, she's gonna
go back to a sedan, so she'sgetting a jetta.
That's a decent vehicle.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
No, it's a turbo four-cylinder, oh, just a
regular one.
Okay, their diesel's got reallygood mileage.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
I remember back in the day hell this little turbo,
uh, four cylinder, gets 40 milesto the gallon really damn.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Yeah, I'm gasoline, that's even better yeah, 30 city
, 40 highway, oh, yeah, yeah,that's pretty good.
So, yeah, I, I don't mind thoseinteriors, they're pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Yeah, this is a pretty basic car, but that's
okay yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
So what's happening?
She wanted a cheap payment.
What's happening to her old car?

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
What do you mean?
We're surrendering it.
Yeah, you're not going to buyit back from them.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
No, well, you should find out how much.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
I already have.
How much?
It does not make sense.
Well, how much?
How much would they offer tobuy it?
Wanted us to buy it back foryeah, yeah, oh, let me see, I am
buying the other car that wasdamaged back and fixing it okay
um, so if owner retained, uh,they would.

(01:17:25):
So the total settlement waslike $17,000.
If owner retained, we would pay, they would pay, we'd get
$7,200.
So $10,000, they went for ityeah ish $10,000 on a total

(01:17:46):
title no, because in Texas it'snot a salvage title, it's not no
, because it is not structuraldamage.
They cannot make it a salvagetitle on hail.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Okay, I was going to say if it's salvaged then you
usually get a great deal.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Yeah, it's not, that's too bad.
Yeah, and we still have a loanon that vehicle.
Yeah, it's not.
Okay, that's too bad.
Yeah, and we still have a loanon that vehicle.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
Oh you do Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Yeah, and we'd be upside down on it and that
doesn't make any sense to thenhave to also fix it.
The Explorer that we have, theywant.
Let's see what is it.
I'm trying to do some math.
They want about seven for it.
So that's fine, we'll do that,and then it'll cost me over what

(01:18:38):
I get from insurance.
It'll cost me about a thousandbucks to fix, but it's still a
free and clear vehicle.
You know everything else socool.
But it's still a free and clearvehicle.
You know everything else socool.
But yeah, I'm getting rid offull coverage on all my vehicles
, oh yeah, Except this Jettathat I'm getting, and I'm owner

(01:19:00):
financing that one for her, soI'm saving her a shit ton in
interest rates right now.
Yeah, exactly Like auto loansdude 11%.
Auto loans dude 11.
It's incredible that's.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
That is on the high side, I think most, I'd say.
The average over my lifetimewas probably like seven they've
been high sometimes they've beenreally low sometimes, but the
last I.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
I had a zero interest loan on the last one.
Yeah, lexi's car was seven.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Um then my truck was two and a half, you know but you
realize that two and a half andzero is just they're.
They're financed by the company, not like it's not a bank doing
it for that cheap.
It's that the manufacturer isso no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
My, that two and a half uh for my truck was through
my credit union really holyshit, that's super cheap.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Yeah, wow, yeah, I don't, I don't know.
I the last uh three or fourcars I just bought for cash, but
it was a uh before that.
I remember typically like ifit's a bank loan, it'd be
between five and nine.
If it was a specialty deal by amanufacturer, obviously it

(01:20:23):
could be cheaper than that yeah,well anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
So uh, she's getting a cheap loan from me, so there
you go, yeah.
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
And uh, you know, you just gotta make sure that she
still pays you.
Yeah, Well, got an ownerfinancing agreement.
Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
And it's going to be my name on the title only.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
So there you go.
Oh, so you could repo it prettyeasily then.
Very yes, nice see I'm.
I can't be anti-semitic geneyeah no you're just a
self-hating jew.
We have, we have, uh, uh.
So I keep waiting.
Uh, you know, the new SouthPark season starts, I think, in
end of May, beginning of June.
Oh, are they?

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
doing a new one.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Yeah, cause they didn't hit or miss on it are
they doing, and of coursethey're doing a new one.
Uh, the promo for it is alreadyup, okay, so you can watch that
.
But yeah, I think it starts injune.
It's always a must watchtelevision.
You gotta watch the south parksokay, and well, I don't know

(01:21:45):
that I wasn't going anywherewith it.
I was just a reminder before Iforget that you should watch
South Park.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Okay yeah, it looked pretty good it usually looks
pretty good.
Oh yeah, South Park's usuallygreat.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
So go ahead.
They're showing more CanadianAmerican-Canadian battles in it.
That was in the preview.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Oh God, that would be hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Mm-hmm, we're that was in the preview, so oh god
that?
That would be hilarious we'reprobably going to go to war over
greenland or something withcanada.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
Uh-huh, well, we'll see.
So um, there was another story.
Oh, real id, what do you?

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
think of the, uh, the we're finally going to be
enforcing real id I mean to mejust feels like, feels like a
little too much about nothing,because we've had real ID in
Texas for what like 12 years?

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Yeah, but enforcing it at the federal level.
And what does that mean?
Well, biometrics for one.
Like they may remove theexemption for the facial
recognition when getting on aplane.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
What if your face can't be recognized?

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
I don't think that's anyone in life.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
I'll tell you what they did remove an exemption for
is arm raising.
What do you mean?
Well, for the last 20 years,since 9-11, I've always walked
around the scanner machine andjust got a metal sticker by
saying I can't raise my arms.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
It depends on the type of scanner, though, too.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Well, that's the thing.
So Austin just got all newscanners.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Yeah, the little flat ones that aren't like round and
you walk between the two plates.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
I guess.
And so I'm like, yeah, I can'traise my arms.
They're like, oh, you don'thave to.
I'm like what?
I mean, you don't have to, anduh.
So then I had to come up withanother excuse to why.
Why don't you have global entry?
I used to have global entry.
I was just too lazy to renew it.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
No, global entry is the way to go, because then you
know talking about biometrics.
What about it?
Well, I mean, you're the onewho's against them right, but
I'm surrendering that at theborder and saying, okay, I'm,
I'm okay with this for bordercrossing, that's.
That's very different than andit gets you through all the
other shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it gets methe other stuff, so it that may

(01:24:10):
be a little bit of a speciousargument to some, but it's it's
fine, I'm making a decision forglobal entry and global travel
yeah yes, that gets me the otherstuff too, which is a benefit.
But like I never had pre-check,I never did pre-check because I
refused to do it for domestictravel.
Right, because I don't thinkthey should be requiring that at

(01:24:31):
all.
Right, and I'm the kind of guythat, um, if I was in a hurry
I'd pull the can't lift my armover my head trick.
And if I wasn't in a hurry Iwould ask for the free massage.
You know I'll make you pat medown, boy.
Yeah, not doing it, not playingyour games.
Free massage exactly yeah, and I, I would literally say that to

(01:24:54):
the tsa agents yeah, some ofthem got a real big kick out of
it.
Someone looked at me like whatthe are you talking about?
Dude.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
And then I had to explain yeah, and I honestly, if
I would have been flying more,I probably would have re-upped
it, but just with as littleflying as I do these days.
Yeah well because a credit cardwill pay for it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Okay so why aren't you doing it?

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
I don't fly a whole lot, I'm lazy okay, I mean it
wouldn't be a big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
Just drive down to the airport and sign up for it
well, you, you're gonna have toredo your interview, and all
that, though I know that's whatI mean.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Yeah, it's been several years since I had it.
So, yeah, everything would haveto be redone.
Yeah, it's been several yearssince.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
I had it.
So, yeah, everything would haveto be redone.
Yeah, so I don't know if Austinis one where you can do the
interview on re-entry, but youknow, just next time you're
going to Mexico or something.
Uh, you know if you can do theinterview on re-entry?

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
then, that's the easiest way to do it and try and
schedule an appointment.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
It's real close to me , right, but getting an
appointment for global entry isa pain in the ass.
That's why doing it on re-entryis easier and faster.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
I see what you mean.
Yeah, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
Yeah, what else?
I'm trying to think what elseis going on?

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
We talked about tariff shit well, it looks like
aoc is running in 2028.
Did you see the?

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
I saw that that was a parody.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Uh, we are one.
Nope, it was official put out.
There are parodies that peoplehave made making fun of her.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
So oh yeah, I just assumed there was a parody no,
it looks like, uh, it's actuallygonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
So, and you saw that, uh, elon is stepping away from
doge yeah, I saw that that wasas expected.
Yeah, I mean he can only serveX number of days.
So I think they're actuallytrying to strategically preserve
some of his days.
And you know, we'll see.

(01:27:22):
Well, the reality is what thisthe process has been set up.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
Exactly exactly Like what is he doing.
Day process has been set up.
Exactly Exactly Like what is hedoing day to day.
Not much Right.
He brought on a team, he's gotthe process worked out.
He's mostly still justcampaigning for people.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Frankly, Now, what she can do is not an employee,
exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
And this allows them to get back to actually running
the companies that make moneyfor him.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Well, and Tesla has definitely suffered from this,
but I don't think it's going togo back Like I don't think, like
I don't see.
I think Tesla's done, I thinkhe's going to lose a shit ton of
money.
I mean, have you seen the newToyota engine?
Not to make this the autopodcast, but have you seen the

(01:28:15):
new Toyota?
No, so Toyota has a hydrogencombustion engine.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
They've had one for years, man.
The problem is, there's noinfrastructure for hydrogen.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
And it's very difficult to transport um okay,
uh, they, they've got a newengine mariah yeah, um, but this
is a very interesting hybrid.
Uh, like they're working on likea hydrogen combustion engine

(01:28:49):
that can do um multiple fuels,so you could have hydrogen, you
could have um methane, you coulddo a lot of things, or you
could do they're even working onone that would be dual fuel
with gasoline.
Um, you have projects like whatI was referring to with the DOE

(01:29:11):
grant in California and otherplaces for these hydrogen hubs
where they can start puttingthat in.
Anyway, hydrogen it makes moresense than electric, because,
know, then, than electricbecause it's you've, you're

(01:29:32):
fueling up the problem withhydrogen.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Yeah, it's a quick recharge, that's what you mean.
The problem is just is thenwell, that's, that is a recharge
.
You're recharging when you,when you're charging a tank of
gas it's a recharge, not arefuel.
Sure, okay, it's gas, it's nota liquid.
Okay, but the problem withhydrogen is the high volume of

(01:29:59):
it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Yes, it has to be pressurized.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
It's low weight but high volume, sure, yeah.
And so I don't know.
I mean, I what?
What does Toyota say?
What's their range on thesethings?
How long can it go?

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Um, so it's it.
I don't know what the range is.
This is the combustion engineI'm talking about is still in a
prototype stage.
It's not the Mirai engine, it'sa newer version of that.
But again, I think it dependson what fuel you're burning and
so on.
So I don't know, I think if youend up with hydrogen hubs, I

(01:30:36):
think if you end up with a lotof this stuff.
It will be interesting yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
The other problem with hydrogen is it doesn't burn
and detonates.
It does burn.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
It oxidizes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
I mean like if there's a leak, you have a
massive explosion.
You don't have like a fire,sure.
So I think that there's someissues with hydrogen.
I like hydrogen in general.
I think for rockets hydrogen isawesome.
It is a great fuel For cars,maybe even for buses, absolutely

(01:31:11):
like, I think, all largetransportation trucks and buses,
they should all be hydrogenpowered because that makes sense
.
they they're.
They've got real frames,they've got a much higher mass
that needs to get moved and infact a hydrogen generator,

(01:31:32):
electric hydrogen plant wouldmake the most sense, but for
just regular passenger cars.
I have not fully bought intothat.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Okay, well, we'll see , but I think it's going to be
interesting, to say the least.
I think it's going to be veryhard for him to compete If a
hydrogen economy which this iswhat the New World Order wants
anyway is clean hydrogen.
If we go that route, I think Idon't see why you would buy an

(01:32:08):
electric car that takes 40minutes to charge at a minimum
and that you have to deal withand da-da-da-da-da.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
That is the main problem it solves Now.
Musk had a video about a decadeago showing a quick swap of
batteries on a Tesla.
Everybody was like, ooh ah, Ididn't, nobody, it never went
anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
Um so man I mean okay .

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
So I've looked up the mirai.
It looks like people aregetting anywhere between 200 and
280 miles per gallon, which isor not?
Per gallon per tank, yeah,which is all right.
It's rated at 400, but no one'sgetting anywhere near that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Well, this is a new version that they're starting
and, by the way, your resumewent to spam.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Oh, of course it did, yeah, so now you would be
willing to drive a hydrogen, butnot electric.
Sure, even if the hydrogenthere's only like two gas
stations in the city you couldfill up at.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Well, this is where a hybrid model that can burn
multiple different fuel types isso important, because it gets
you that bridge right.
If they come up with an enginethat can burn gasoline or
hydrogen and it has twodifferent tanks, you're damn
right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
I would go for that in a heartbeat, yeah yeah, and I
guess you could do hydrogen ina reciprocal reciprocating
engine.
You don't have to have a uh,it's getting the injectors right
, more than anything right,right, but I I guess, when I
think of hydrogen for vehiclesand maybe I'm this is just my

(01:33:55):
problem, right but when I thinkof hydrogen for vehicles, I
think of a car that's using afuel cell right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
But this is.
That's not what we're doinghere, but they're just using a
hydrogen.
Internal combustion engine.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Yeah, an internal, an ICE engine running on hydrogen.
Yeah, it's pretty neat, I guess.
I mean, you could do so muchmore with hydrogen though.
Yeah.
You could have fresh, purewater in your car Sure Generated

(01:34:32):
by the car Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
How cool is that, if that's what you want.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
You can make tea while you're driving.
You and your tea.
I would so buy a car that had atea maker in it.
Yeah, it just dumps tea out therear end no, it's not that the
rear end dumps it into a cupyour exhaust.
Is tea coming out into a cup?

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
well anyway.
Um so with the tariffs.
Doubly hits tesla, though,because like they're having to
cancel orders to go to china.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
That are you?
Know going to china yeah, well,there's a couple things.
First of all, much like withother products, the world market
is actually bigger for teslathan the us.
Uh, germany buys a shit ton ofthese things.
Anda lot of countries in europedo.
They have programs cars, butyou've heard.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Adam saying that people are stopping buying
Teslas.
They're hiding their Teslas in.
Denmark, for sure.
So you know, yeah, like whythey care about what Musk is
doing here.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
I don't understand.
Stupid politics is what it is,but I think I'm just looking at
the stock price.
It's actually up in the lastweek, so I don't know.
I don't know, it's nowhere nearwhere it was.
It was at about 400.
Right now it's about 284.
Okay.

(01:36:03):
But it was as low as 220 over20.
Over the last three months, didyou buy the dip?
No, I bought it way well belowthat.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
I'm still up.

Speaker 4 (01:36:15):
You didn't buy more.
I'm upside down.
Did I buy more?

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
No, I didn't buy more because I bought fucking Ford.
Now I'm stuck with it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
Wow, why'd you do that?
I don't know, probably becausesomebody said well, with the
tariffs, American car companiesare going to do much better.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
Yeah, we'll see.
So I'm hoping Ford goes up.
So far they're hovering rightaround where I bought them.
Give or take Too bad, yeah.
Give or take too bad, yeah, Iknow, but it's.
I'll tell you, everything willgo up when the matter of tariffs

(01:37:00):
is settled with China.
Doesn't mean matter what theend result is.
When there's a final end result, everything will go up.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
Because the biggest issue right now is just the lack
of clarity and predictabilityyeah, um, and I think the tariff
issues are going to get settledpretty quick.
Um, I think china is going to,I think china is going to come

(01:37:32):
to heel man.
Um, most of their exports,their economy, goes to us.
Um, and if we stop policingthose sea lanes, or actually
even getting to the point wherewe interdict their shipping
through some of the sea lanes,hey, oh, we can't do, they're

(01:37:52):
done yeah, you're completelywrong because you, you, you
listen to that colorado dude forway too long and you've
assimilated his viewpoints aboutchina.

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
Um, the us only represents 16% of China's
exports.
We are the largest single placethey export to, but we are by
no means a large part of theirexports.
16% is.
Even if they lost all USexports, yeah, it would

(01:38:24):
certainly have an impact totheir economy, but we would have
a much bigger impact to oureconomy during that loss of all
Chinese products coming into theUS than China would by not
selling those same products tothe US.
This is a problem.
We're playing chicken withChina.
The pain factor here is vastlydifferent for the two countries.

(01:38:49):
They would be inconvenienced.
We would not have toilet paperon the shelves of grocery stores
disagree we'll get to watch it,dude, I don't think china's
gonna paper is made here.
Oh my god yeah it's.
I'm using an analogy paper isnot made.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
I'm relating back to the what happened, so we don't
have cheap plastic chinese goods?

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
oh no well, no, we just don't have any goods,
because all goods come in inplastic that's made in china.
Okay, you know, I mean it'sagain, I'm being obviously
exaggerating here, but but thepoint is, I think it is
unrealistic to think that acessation of US-Chinese trade is

(01:39:39):
something that the US cansurvive better than China,
because that's just not true.
China has their fingers in toomany other pots.
That's just not true.
China has their fingers in toomany other pots.
The US is single-sourced for avast number of products from
China, including medicines.
I guarantee you we'd havemedicine shortages in this
country, 100% guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
We probably would.
Now, like I told you, we'realready seeing pharmaceutical
companies investing in puttingfacilities here.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
Yeah, and those are three to five years away.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
Oh, yeah, yeah, everything's three to five years
away, except when there's amassive, massive investment,
there is construction time, it'sstill three to five years away.

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
Construction still has to happen.
Regulatory things stillconstruction time it's still
three to five years away.
Construction still has tohappen.
Regulatory things still taketime.
Bureaucracy still moves in astainless space.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
Right.
But when people say, oh, you'renot going to see any economic
impact from this because it'sgoing to take three to five
years to build a plant, you'regoing to see a huge economic
impact from the building of theplant.
Oh sure you will.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think anyone that can getinto a job that ties into the
tariffs being in place is goingto make money.
But, also, a lot of companiesare going to stop selling to the
US.
Okay, we'll see.
I hope not.

(01:41:12):
I hope we don't see, becausethat would suck, but we are
starting to see it right now andfringe the products that are
purely optional and notnecessary for anyone.
But you know, if it's like,here's the thing Trump makes a
cutout for iPhones.
Right, he makes a cutout for alot of different products based
on what people want here Doesn'tmean they have to do likewise.

(01:41:35):
Okay.
So I think that there's a bitof a naivety in assuming that
the rules of trade are 100% upto the US.
This has always been anegotiated thing and every year

(01:41:56):
China has gotten into a betternegotiating position than the
previous year.
We can blame the Obama and theBiden administrations for
letting this go To some extent.
Trump well, he was in theoffice as well, but not as much.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
But the reality is china of today is not china of
bill clinton years I, I agree,but you know, I I think that we
still have a lot of influenceand I think that we will.
I don't think the way china'seconomy is structured, I don't

(01:42:33):
think they can survive losing 15, 16 percent of their, their
exports.
I just don't think they can doit.
They're already debasing anddevaluing their currency.
To run at a deficit it costsChina more than what they export

(01:42:54):
.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
What costs China more ?

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
All the goods that China makes.
There are a lot of them thatare sold at a loss, and it's the
Chinese government debasingtheir currency and subsidizing
it that makes it possible.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
So if those goods don't get sold, then the Chinese
government doesn't have tosubsidize them.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Well, no, because if the Chinese government stops
manufacturing it, people go out.
They cannot stop manufacturingdude.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
Well, I don't know man, why do like they cannot
stop manufacturing dude.
Well, I don't know, man.
Why do you think they can't?
Because there will be a revolt.
Show me one time that thathappened.

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
One instance Show me one time that the communist
government has stoppedmanufacturing, since they've
been the manufacturer of theworld.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
That's not really a.
Thing.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
Okay, anyway, I don't think that their economy can.
We can agree to disagree onthis.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
Yeah, I've had this position the whole time, since
you've been watching thatClaretta do.
It's like Americansunderestimate, underestimate
china consistently.
If there's one thing you cansay about american attitude
towards china for the last 50years, it has been completely
underestimating china the entiretime.

Speaker 1 (01:44:19):
So fine, um, we'll see.
So what do you think of the?
Um the autism stuff that RFK ispushing?

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
You mean the food coloring or which autism stuff?

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
No, the ones to use a public database to track autism
cases as part of theinvestigation as to what is
causing this.

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
Yeah, I mean, I think private groups have been doing
that for a while.
I think that this is justmaking it a public thing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
I've literally had liberals tell me he's making a
list of undesirables for laterexecution in the death camps.

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
Do these people have a one-digit IQ or what?

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
No, no, but they are full-on tds, obviously, but yeah
, no, I literally had someonetell me that they're making a
list of undesirables, thatthey're literally nazis, and
this is their evidence of itwell it's a voluntary database
and it's to investigate what is?

Speaker 3 (01:45:25):
causing our children to be hurt.
Is that a bad thing?

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
What you have, a list of people that are genetically
defective.
Depending on what you're goingto do with it, sure.
Exactly, it's all in thepurpose for the list but I don't
think it's a bad thing to havethe list Well, especially if
it's something that's increasingand we want to make sure that
we're getting a hold of and youknow, trying to roll back.

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
Well, the first step in all of this, in my opinion,
would be to try and determine ifautism is a genetic defect or
if it is caused by stress in theearly phases of life, Like what
is the cause of autism.
Because if autism is purely agenetic defect, then it doesn't

(01:46:18):
matter, right, like it's clearlynot the fault of parents, drug
companies, society, anybody, ifit just happens.
But if it's something thatdoesn't happen in locations
where you don't have vaccines,like say, the Amish for example,
yeah, and let's say the Amishdidn't have any autistic kids.

(01:46:41):
They don't, I know, but let'ssay they didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
But they don't.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
Right, but I'm trying to get to make the argument
before getting to the conclusion.
Okay, uh-huh so, let's say, ifthe amish didn't have any
autistic kids and one of thethings that you could correlate
not cause aid, but correlatewith that is that they don't use
vaccines um, that wouldestablish a uh a, not

(01:47:09):
necessarily a causalrelationship, but at least a
statistical relationship betweena group that doesn't do A and
doesn't have B.
And you can't do that withouttracking these cases.
So that's why my point is, forall this is I thought this was
already being done privately.
So if it's just a matter oftaking that data and making it

(01:47:30):
public, then it's great.
We should be tracking peoplewith diseases of all kinds, not
just autism I agree, but wehaven't.

Speaker 1 (01:47:42):
And I just again, I don't have a problem with the
story, I don't have a problemwith what they're doing.
My entire point in bringingthis story up was because of the
liberal reaction to it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's it.
Maybe it's just hitting alittle too close to home for the
person with the signal digit IQ.
I mean stupidity versus autism.
Who's to say?
It's an interesting thing,because there's a number of

(01:48:15):
things like that that,anecdotally, I really have
doubts about.
Like, for example, I do tend tothink autism is likely caused
or triggered by, if not causedby, vaccines, and what makes me
think that is that when I was akid, we had seven vaccines For

(01:48:39):
kids that right now are born,they're getting over 100
vaccines.
Yeah, well it depends on how youcount them Well.
I don't know.
I read an article, so you tellme but right.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
They mean like, do you count the mmr vaccine as one
or three?
Right, and that changes thatnumber significantly um, either
way, it's way too many.
Nobody used to get these well,and you know, people are
vaccinating their kids forhepatitis at birth.
Yeah, why Right?

Speaker 3 (01:49:09):
And then the other issue is allergies.
When I was a kid, you couldmake fun of the kids that had
allergies, because there's onlyabout five of them in the whole
school.
Now you can make fun of thekids that don't have allergies,
because there's only about fiveof them in the whole school.
If that yeah yeah, it iscompletely flip-flopped.

(01:49:31):
We used to be given peanutbutter in elementary school like
every fucking day.
Nobody had any peanut allergiesNobody.
Even the kids that hadallergies, they still ate peanut
butter because that's what yougot.
They still ate peanut butterbecause that's what you got.

(01:49:51):
Uh, so this idea that, purelyrandomly, for no reason at all,
all of a sudden, humans havedeveloped all these weaknesses
weakness, you know, mentalweaknesses to make them autistic
, uh, weaknesses of the immunesystem to give them allergies

(01:50:13):
when is this shit coming from?
Is it sunspots?
What is the cause?
We can all just sort of chucklea little bit and point the
finger and say, well, it'spretty obvious where the causes
are.
But I think, even without doingthat, it's important that we
start looking at if there'ssomething that national health

(01:50:35):
organization should have beendoing the whole time they've
been around, it's looking atshit like this.
Like, you may not call it apandemic, but the dramatic
increase in the number of peoplethat have allergies is caused
by something.

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
Well, and that number is supposed to be growing to
the point of one in 38 hereshortly, yeah, here shortly,
yeah.
And you know, realistically,let's just say, if for no other

(01:51:14):
reason than how, the fuck are wegoing to take care of these
people?

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
Yeah, these people from an early age are more
expensive than people who don'thave allergies in the medical
system.
And when you say one out of 38,what does that mean?
One out?

Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
of 38 children has it okay.

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
So we're specifically looking at children, because
obviously the number of adultsis a lot lower than that right,
but what they're saying is theincident rate per generation.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Yeah, yeah that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
That totally makes sense.
Yeah, so something is causingthat.
That's not just randomlyhappening and it's not happening
in other countries.
It's happening in somecountries, but not all countries
.
So I think these are all veryuseful topics to research.
This is where grant moneyshould be going, not to, like
you know, the, the, thetranssexual lifestyles of june

(01:52:11):
bugs or whatever other bullshitthings that are getting funded
yeah because this does have botha cost component and a quality
of life component I mean, youhave allergies.
You know how bad it could be.
I don't have allergies.
Well, whatever, you gotsomething, so the point is I do

(01:52:31):
have something.
Yeah, you got something up yournose, probably an alien living
in there.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
Hey, what's that in your mouth?

Speaker 3 (01:52:40):
Yeah, so it's not a good thing.
It's a I think we've let thingsgo too long as far as the dye
thing that came up with rfk.
I think it's interesting.
The joke, obviously, is thatyou know, the man who drinks
blue uh paint every morning isuh wanting to ban all the other

(01:53:05):
colors.

Speaker 1 (01:53:07):
I didn't hear this.
What happened yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:53:09):
yeah, well, he's talking about removing a lot of
the paints used in food, fooddyes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
It's been a part of his platform for a long time,
but is he a methylene blue user?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
He's a big-time methylene blue user.
Okay.
I didn't know.
There's even a photo of himdoing a methylene blue drip on
Air Force One before Trump gotelected and people were all like
what is he doing?
Why is he dripping somethinginto a glass?
And of course it turned out tobe methylene blue.

(01:53:43):
So, yeah, he's a big time userof it and methylene blue, we've
talked about it in nauseam, wehave.
But it's first use was as a dye,as a clothing dye, in fact blue
jeans yeah so other uses cameabout after the fact, and I know

(01:54:05):
about it from the fish hobby,where we used it all the time to
treat, uh, infections of fish,yeah, yeah, and it works very
well at combating those.
So I, I don't know, I, I think,um, I think this country's been

(01:54:25):
long overdue for a bath thatTrump's giving it.
Mm-hmm, I agree and all thecooties out.
Oh, I just hope that he canmanage the energy and focus and
passion and everything else forthe entire four-year term, and

(01:54:47):
I'm very worried about whathappens two years from now.

Speaker 1 (01:54:50):
Oh, at the midterms?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, it totallydepends.
The Democrats are in prettygood disarray, yeah, but there's
definitely a lot of backlashand it's going to depend on did
this work or not.

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
Yeah Well, and that's the real risk here, and this is
a card that China can play.
They don't have to never agreeto a tariff agreement.
They just have to stall untilthe midterms, if they can, if
they can, if they can yeah, sothat's what they have to.

(01:55:32):
Weigh is like this is anon-kinetic war with the United
States, and what they could dois, by not agreeing, even at a
cost to their own country,dramatically cause the opinion
of Americans to sway againstTrump because he's caused a

(01:55:53):
recession.

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
Well, but the recession was coming, no matter
what.
We actually probably need adepression and correction on the
stock market.

Speaker 3 (01:56:03):
That's definitely not what the messaging is going to
be.
Yeah, yeah, I understand.
Trump created it, Trump owns it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
I understand, but let's be real.
Yeah, we need a reset andrevaluation of where we're at.
Oh yeah, it has to happen.
I agree A lot of people aregoing to lose a lot of money
when it happens, but you know.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
Yeah, and I think people already started feeling
that with the market um, whichis kind of rebounded for the
most part yeah, I did, but someI I've.
I'm down a little fraction ofthat over the year, but yeah,
that's, yeah, that's it now, oneof the newsletters I've
subscribed to, as jc would callit, is from that um company that

(01:56:52):
tracks all the um, the senatorsand congress people's
investments.
Yeah and uh, those are going ata rate of about two percent
profit per week.
Okay, so all of them, but agood chunk of our politicians

(01:57:13):
are doing a few percent a week,so somewhere in the range of 60
to 70% a year rate of return.
Okay.
So I'm just saying that ifsomebody wants to make a higher
return, all you got to do isjust copy what the politicians
are doing yeah, but the problemwith that is do you have enough

(01:57:39):
heads up?

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
are they getting in earlier than you?
What I mean?
Well, that's why you subscribeto this feed, right, but then
you've got to go.
Are you going to be a daytrader now and just sit there
and do that?

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
I'm not but I'm saying, if people wanted to,
yeah, I'm too lazy for that, Idon't have time for that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
I've got a day job to do.

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
What if there?

Speaker 1 (01:57:59):
was a fund.

Speaker 4 (01:58:01):
Sure, if there was a fund that tracked it and I could
just invest it.
Yeah, why?

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
would not everyone do it?
Is that something you wouldinvest in?

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
Yes, duh, who wouldn't Right Exactly?
We ought to create one andsomeone start managing it and
put Andrew Horowitz out ofbusiness.

Speaker 3 (01:58:22):
Oh, what's going on with that?
Darren mentioned somethingabout the Horowitz-Adam war.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
Oh yeah, you should listen to the episode.
It's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:58:30):
Yeah, I haven't listened yet.
I'm usually like three to fourweeks behind.
I don't like I don't know, it'sa quirk for me, I think I don't
like listening to episodes outof order.
Okay.
And so I don't usually.

Speaker 1 (01:58:47):
You don't skip.

Speaker 3 (01:58:52):
I'll like right now if, when we're done, I might
start listening to no agenda,but I'll be listening to a month
and a half old episode.
Just get caught up.
You mean, just skip overeverything.
Yeah, it feels wrong.
I can't and I can'tintellectually explain why
because it is a show that'sbased on current events.

Speaker 1 (01:59:10):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:59:11):
But there's something about just skipping shit that
feels wrong.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
I can't explain it, alright, man.
Well, on that note, I thinkwe're good.

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
What do you know about that Horowitz thing?
I thought you were going totell more.
No, you've got to go listen tothe episode.

Speaker 1 (01:59:29):
Oh, that's how we're good.
Well, what do you know aboutthat?
Uh horowitz thing?
I was good, I thought you'regonna tell more.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
No, I don't know you gotta go listen to the episode.
Oh, that's how we're gonna playit, okay yeah, all right, fair
enough, fair enough all right,ben, I'll see you next week.
See you, gene.

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