119 Staring Down Civil War

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Howdy Ben, how are you today?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm doing well, Gene yourself.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Pretty good.
Still a little bit of catch upafter my two week long trip, but
I learned that pretty good.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah, where'd you go Northern?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Mexico.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Come on now.
So the Mexican border extendsall the way up to Seattle,
Washington, it might.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
It might these days.
Have you guys seen California.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Oh, dude Not part of America Huh.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Not part of America.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well, or at least a fight is being had over it,
that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I'm okay, letting them go.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Me too is being had over it, that's for sure.
I'm okay letting them go, metoo.
But at the same time, man, I amglad to see trump brought in
the national guard and isoverriding new scum yeah, well
it's.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I mean, it's not just national guard, he's got a full
battalion going out there, yep,actual armed forces, which you
know.
Is there a?
Is there a law against that, orsomething?
Uh well, it's all nationalguard troops, though, so no, no,
I just read earlier today thatthat there's a battalion of
regular army going in well, itdepends on what role they are

(01:20):
standing up as like.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
If they're just supporting the national Guard
and the National Guard is theone, they're the ones doing the
actual law enforcement function,then you're fine.
But yes, you have the possecomitatus rules that prevent the
military from being usedagainst the citizenry.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
And do you think Trump, the dictator, is going to
follow those rules?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I don't think he's breaking any rules.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Just what a Nazi lover would say.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
I enjoy watching hippiesgetting their shit beat up
because you know, nothing'sworse than a hippie.
But at the same time, um, itdoes kind of set a precedent for

(02:19):
the next president, that if youdon't like something somewhere,
just bring in troops uh well,no, this precedent has been set
many times, um you know, duringthe uh la riots over the rodney
king stuff yeah, but I mean likein your lifetime that was in my
lifetime barely okay, but uh,my point being not that it's the

(02:46):
first time it's ever happened,but simply that you know, the
democrats viciously play tit fortat.
Anything you do, they will dotwice as hard.
And so my question there is whydon't we just let la burn?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
I, I, I don't hate that idea I mean, what's the
downside?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
all the liberal voters that live there that are
going to be now moving to texas?
Okay, that's a small downsideyeah, no, the.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
The downside really is, though, that the ice agents
need to be protected.
They need to be allowed to dowhat they're doing.
When you look at the peoplethey are deporting, it's like
holy shit, who is protestingthis?
Why would anyone be protestingthis?
Well, isis, obviously.
How is ice protesting the isis?

(03:45):
oh, isis, yes isis, america isprotesting us well, I don't know
, I just don't know how you canlook at the list of the people
that they're deporting at leastwhat has been released publicly
and go oh yeah, no, um, we wantthose rapists and murderers and
child molesters to stay here.

(04:05):
You know when they say from theriver to the sea.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I think they mean from the Mississippi River to
the Pacific Ocean.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, well, you can take Texas out of my cold dead
hands.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Well, I sent you the Well you know Texas does belong
to mexico, according to them ohyeah, I've seen the maps uh you
know what I would say is I?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I sent you that.
Uh, that pat buchanan, yeahquote which is amazing, he's
still alive yeah well, but he,he's saying you know, we've got
about three or four americaswhen you're not one america.
And he's completely correct.
My dad told me he was stillalive.
I was shocked.
And then ray dalio coming outtoday with an article on civil
war and pool's been saying thatfor three years well, again,

(04:55):
show me the off-ramp man.
I, you, and I have been sayingit for years too we have, we
have, yeah, I'm and it's notbecause we want to fight no it's
not because we definitely don'twant to fight.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
We just like collecting gadgets and things,
but having gadgets is betterthan not having them when it
comes to fighting.
Indeed.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Indeed, I will tell you that I did get a new gadget,
but it's not gun-related, sowe'll save that.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Okay, got it.
Yeah, tell us about the buttplug separately.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
God damn it.
No, no, no, thank you.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Oh well, I just assumed that.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Uh-huh, uh-huh, yeah.
So no, California is burning.
La, man they're, you know.
And the thing is, all thesepeople are committing felony
assault.
Yeah, you know, throwing a rockat a vehicle is felony assault
yeah, I don't care whose vehicle.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
It doesn't have to be a cop car, it could be a tesla
and I.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
I just don't know how these people think they're
going to get away with it well.
Well, they have been.
So that's how they think.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, you know, if they've been getting away with
no issues, then they're going tokeep thinking they can get away
with no issues.
So yeah, I get it.
I think that there's a well.
You saw what Gasson Neeson said.
He told Trump to go stuff it.

(06:27):
He says California is none ofhis business.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
I, you know what.
Then what I would say and whatI think.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Should he dared Trump or the federal government?
I should say he dared thefederal government to come and
arrest him.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
And we should.
We should go in and arrestGavin Newsom for aiding and
abetting these people.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
I just, I see it totally differently.
I think we just need defense,but not on our southern border,
on our western border.
I want to keep the Californiansin with the crazy people
because they've left all thecrazy people run things.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, there's, there's some danger in that, but
okay, eh.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
What you think.
There's less in bringing themhere Texas.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
No, no, no no.
I don't want them to come toTexas, but that's why I want
them to be able to stay inCalifornia.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Well, if they stay in California, what do you want to
do?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
with them.
Well, if they stay inCalifornia, uh in California
prisons uh, well, I mean you'veseen escape from New York.
Right, we could do somethinglike that, I guess.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, there's another one called something, something
LA too Um, I can't remember thename of that movie, but but I
think Kurt Russell's a prison LAor something like that.
I I just I'm more of theopinion that you have to look at
the cost benefit analysis ofthese things and sometimes

(07:56):
letting a bad city or bad statejust finally fall apart and come
just finally fall apart andcome down to rubble is a better
solution than constantlythrowing money at them and
trying to fix them.
You know, fix brokenrelationships don't get fixed,

(08:19):
they just get prolonged, and Ikind of feel like america's
relationship with california isin the same boat.
But I can fix her gene.
Yeah, I know, I can keepthinking you can fix california
and I'm telling you you can't.
It's gonna keep fucking youover and you're gonna keep
feeling bad but still trying tofix her yeah well yeah, it's,

(08:44):
it's uh in on.
In some sense, this is also asymptom of us spending way too
much time, money and energylooking outwardly and by us I
mean america.
To them, many foreign wars, notenough focus on home.
This is how we end up withplaces like LA.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Well, I think it's not just LA, I think it's all of
.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
California.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
No, you're right, it's not all you know, it's the
big cities in California.
Let me rephrase, because thereare parts of California that are
fantastic.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah Well, the all of California is fantastic.
I always said the place isabsolutely great.
You just need to get rid of thepeople.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
That are currently there.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
We just need to move them out of there, just maybe
concentrate them somewhere elseJust not in a nice, pretty place
like California and open thatup for, you know, all the people
from the rest of the country.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well, you know, Alaska is not very populated.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, we can move in there.
We can build some camps upthere they can live in.
It'd be like camping.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I don't even think you build the camps, I think you
just take them up there.
You look at the voter rolls andthe voter records and you just
take them up there and dump themin the wilderness and say good
luck.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
You're going to let the bears decide and let them
decide.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
I have been a supporter of bear rights for
many years.
I think bears ought to beentitled to vote, and if they
want to vote themselves somemeals out of California, that's
totally their prerogative.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yep, yep Not, yep, yep Not even a bear joke.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Okay, all right, ben, you really are not in the happy
mood right now.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I am not feeling good .
I had to stop all supplementsand that is kicking my ass.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I think I'm addicted to methylene blue now.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I can't go more than one day without it well, I gotta
see if that's not part ofwhat's causing me problems could
be.
It does relate to kidneys andliver well, this isn't related
to my kidneys or liver.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I left my or feet.
I left my methylene blue athome on my trip, oh no.
And I was like, oh shit, if I'mnot peeing blue then I'm not
healthy.
So I had to quick get an Amazonrush delivery order up there.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Get some ASAP so I can continue on without letting
my pee turn any other color well, I have uh had to stop uh all
supplements for a few days, andthen I'm going to start adding
them back in.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Make sure, that I would stop for a week, dude I I
think a lot of this stuff had.
The half-life is is pretty long.
It's in days, not hours.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to do anything from now
until after I probably get backfrom my trip.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you're not taking aspirin yet,
right?

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, I'm not doing anything like that.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, they sort of tell us that we don't really
need to do aspirin.
But I kind of like aspirin, Ilike having thinner blood.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Th really need to do aspirin.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
But I kind of like aspirin I.
I like having thinner blood,like thinner blue blood is
always kind of a big goal for me.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
So I don't know.
They eat off a lot of silver.
I do.
I take supplements.
No, like the blue bloods, theywere called that because of
eating off actual silverwarethey got silver in their blood.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, I know that's.
That's the whole thing whichalso, by the way, is an
antibiotic also copper, yeah,copper, methylene, blue silver
these are all colloidal silver,all things that tend to make
your uh, your, your liquids andfluids different colors indeed,
and which means they're healthy,of course well, healthier at

(12:44):
the very least.
But not giving medical advice,obviously, but nonetheless I
will say blue is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
So the issue I'm having is a pretty rare one and
I kind of debated on whether ornot to share this information on
the podcast or not.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
I wish you'd debate whether to share it with me.
But okay, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
But you know what I think it's?
Rare enough, and one of thosethings that if anyone else has
run into this, you're pregnant,aren't you?
They?
Uh, they probably.
Oh, my god, ben, you'repregnant, uh, I wish, um, they,
uh, if anyone else has run intothis or, you know, if we think
maybe the root cause of my issueis the root cause, I want to
warn people.
So this is an adult segmentKids.

(13:35):
Yes, If your kids are aroundyour earmuffs they have no
business listening to thispodcast.
They don't, we cuss way too muchlistening to this podcast?
No, they don't, we cuss way toomuch.
So apparently, um, I havefractured my member a few times
without knowing it, and that hascaused scar tissue, and that

(13:57):
scar tissue is now causing acondition that you would
normally see in someone whotakes erectile dysfunction
medication.
So if you've ever listened tothe commercials, if you
experience a erection lastingmore than four hours, go to the
emergency room, it's that.
But I'm not on any of thatmedication, so we're trying to
figure out the cause.
Uh, we're eliminating cancers,shit like that.

(14:19):
So it's a little bit of a scarymoment, but I gotta tell you it
sounds fun.
It sounds fun in theory, butwhen you wake up in the morning
and you have one for right atfour hours several days in a row
and it's waking you up out ofyour sleep and you're getting
three or four or five hours ofsleep for over a week, it's

(14:41):
really not fun and it's painful.
And what I would say is toanyone who has a penis um,
notice, I was actually pc thereyeah, that's very pc.
You mean the men and women thathave penises no, I mean the men
who have penises, because thewomen who have penises aren't
really probably functional, soit doesn't really matter to them
anyway.
But if you ever are havingintercourse and you slip out and

(15:06):
then you got to slip back inbut you don't quite make it and
it bends and you hear thatpopping noise, go to the doctor.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Go to the doctor yeah , because you're not supposed to
have bones in there, so youshouldn't be popping things, ben
well it's it.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Well, it's the vessels that end up popping and
you can have a major tear whichwill turn black and blue.
You will have to go to thedoctor, you'll know it.
Or you can have the minor tearslike I've had over the years.
That can just build up scartissue over time and end up
leading to some pretty nastyconsequences.

(15:44):
So it's had the opposite effectfor me.
But for most men that gothrough and do that, you can end
up with ED later in your life.
It's having the opposite effecton me, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
That's a good point, ben.
I think something to rememberfor everyone that's into cock
and ball torture is just don'tlet it get out of hand.
Just you know, when it gets toa point where it's black and
blue, you may have heardsomething permanently go ahead.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, I don't know anyone who is in cock and ball
torture gene that is not.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
That's how you're popping these things.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
But no, no, no, not at all, thank, but anyway I it's
a little bit of an embarrassingtopic, but you know what, the
biggest study I've been able tofind on this condition and
what's causing it for differentpeople and so on, is about 120
people and they're aself-selecting group.
It's not a randomized controlstudy or anything like that or
anything like that.
They don't know how to treatthis except surgically, in ways

(17:06):
that no one should ever have togo through in their life.
And you know.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Have you thought, maybe rubbing one out might fix
it.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
It doesn't actually oh, you have, okay, it doesn't,
it does not do that In fact it'syeah, it does not matter and
yeah, anyway.
So that's the PSA.
But the most common occurrenceof this that is not drug-induced
most common, is drug-inducedand they know, oh well, you take

(17:38):
Viagra.
Therefore, we're going to stopthis and that'll stop.
The most common occurrence isactually sickle cell anemia
causing it, uh, and you're notblack?
I I'm not and I don't havesickle cell.
Then there's leukemia, which Idon't have, leukemia and we're
going to be scheduling a ct tomake sure that this is not a

(17:58):
very odd presentation of earlylymphoma.
Uh, so trying to eliminatethose things and then, like I
said, eliminating supplementsand things right now, that maybe
some way to change theformulation or something started
interacting differently orwhatever.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I know you were taking a lot of fall asleep
pills for a while.
That could have something to dowith it too.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
No, no, no.
So I don't, and I haven't beenthroughout this because I need
to wake up, I need to know whenthis is happening so I can start
that timer and make sure thatI'm not going over that four
hours before I go to the ER.
And another thing that peopleneed to know is if you ever

(18:39):
experience this, keep someSudafed around, because if you
take like three pseudofed, inabout 90 minutes it will go away
.
Um, at least that's been myexperience.
And if you take the threepseudofed and in that 90 minutes
it doesn't go away, you shouldprobably be going to the er
anyway pseudofed is?

Speaker 1 (18:58):
well, it's decongestant right yeah it's.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
You know it's behind the counter.
You got to scan your id, shitlike that, but it's something to
keep around.
And the other thing to note isI was reading horror stories.
One case description that Iread from a doctor was
Somebody's penis explode, Moreor less.
There was this guy thatliterally waited 36 hours before
he finally went to the ER.

(19:21):
This dude had been up for threeor not, or not three days, but
you know, a day and a half andhe finally goes into the ER.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
And when you say up, we all know what you mean.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh, I mean awake too.
You can't sleep with this dude.
This is painful.
This is not pleasant, this isit's painful.
It's painful, and you know whatthe doctor ended up describing
was, you know, making anincision on both sides of the
urethra to release the fluid.
And you know his comment, whichwas rather crass, was please

(19:58):
make sure you're wearing a faceshield and a gown, because it's
going to hit the roof right, andlike just thinking about ever
having to go through somethinglike that is just terrifying to
me.
So it needless to say, it'sbeen a little stressful around
here have you thought aboutmaking an incision?
fuck you.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
No, no, I have not gene, okay, just checking anyway
there's a movie I remembercalled the machinist or
something like that, about a guywho kept having like a pain in
his head.
The only way to get rid of itwas to nail a.
Put a nail in his head.
Have you seen that?
No, okay, something like that,anyway.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Um it sounds like a real condition.
That's something you made upyeah, it is uh, uh so stuttering
priaprism, and one of thethings people should know is
that four-hour mark is reallyimportant.
And then we can move on to adifferent topic.
So your you know your penis isdesigned to be without, uh, new

(21:03):
oxygen for a good long while.
Right, the tissues in there are, because whenever you have an
erection, your penis isn'tgetting any new blood, so it's
slowly deoxygenating that bloodand it's used to that, so it can
live without new oxygen for alot longer than other parts of
your body.
But when you cross thatfour-hour threshold, you're

(21:25):
starting to do damage.
Cells are starting to die,things are starting to go wrong.
When you hit the eight-hourwindow, you're doing permanent
damage.
And that poor guy that went 36hours you know the comments in
this case study was the doctorbasically said he will never
have uh function again, and sothat's something that you know.

(21:50):
Take it seriously.
Uh, it can be embarrassing, youknow.
I've had to think about okay,if I'm going to go to the er,
what am I going to be able towear that I can go to the er?
How am I going to do this?
Um it, but it's not a joke,it's a medical emergency and
it's something that everybodyshould you know, if it ever

(22:12):
happens to you take it seriouslyand then the study.
They ever figure out what causesit no, no, so over 30 percent
of cases.
So, first of all, this isfairly rare to happen to begin
with, but 30% of cases aunderlying cause is never, never
identified.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
And if you don't slip in the Viagra into your food?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
if you did, ha ha ha.
I mean well that could cause it.
Right, it could.
If you don't find the rootcause, the odds of you being
able to, uh, get it undercontrol are pretty limited.
So, um what?

Speaker 1 (22:48):
if you're like with a really ugly chick the help dude
.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm telling you, I I I taking cold showers, I've sat
on ice packs, I've done allsorts of shit.
It's either gonna take a whileand go down on its own, or it's
not gonna go down on its own, orit's not going to go down on
its own and you're going to haveto go to the er or you have to
take something what have yougone to a chinese herbalist?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I have not.
Why would I do?
There you go, because they havespecial remedies for these
types of things.
You never know what rhino horndoes until you need it.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Oh, my God, this reminded me, Uh, so I I even
told, uh someone else that I wastelling about this.
This, this entire conditionreminds me, and especially that
case study of a joke my dad toldme as a kid Um so this guy, uh,
he's in the Navy.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Don't play with your penis, or it'll stay that way.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah no, this.
This guy was, uh, in the navyand he was in southeast asia boy
, we all know about navy.
He was at a port and you know,he went and found a hooker and
hooked up with her and a fewdays later his thing started
itching, feeling weird, and he'slike, oh man, what the hell.
So he goes to the uh sick bayand goes to the medic and medic
goes oh man, you got the worstcase of hong kong dong I've ever

(24:06):
seen.
We're gonna have to take thatthing off.
And he goes doctor, I nooffense, but I want a second
opinion.
So he waits a few days and it'sgetting worse and worse.
So he goes to another doctorand the doctor goes damn dude,
that's a bad case of Hong Kongdong, we got to cut that thing
off.
He goes oh Jesus, all right, Igot to get one more opinion.

(24:28):
I'm going to go to an Asiandoctor because hopefully, you
know, they'll have someexperience with this and they'll
have a cure.
So he goes to the Chinese doctorand the Asian doctor and he
drops his drawers.
And the Asianian doctor justlooks at it and goes oh, hong
kong dog.
He goes.
Oh my god, doc, no, don't tellme, we're gonna have to cut it

(24:50):
off.
He goes ah no, we no cut offtwo more day at fall off.
So that's too funny runningthrough my head this entire time
.
Oh, but yeah anyway.
So the auto pin controversy.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Okay, is the R rated portion of the show done?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I think so yes.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Oh, about the fucking time you.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Hey, this is something affecting me and it's.
I don't want it to affectanyone else.
And I don't want other peopleto run into some of the horror
studies stories that I have readand looked at on this and you
know, early intervention youknow, the only place I've had
blood not want to leave was mytoes with gout.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
So I I pretty sure I know what you feel like.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Probably even worse I don't think your toe pain can
compare, dude oh, I'm prettysure the toe pain's worse.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
They describe it as worse than child pain okay,
anyway, so auto pin.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, did you see trump's comments?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I.
I mean I saw some.
I was on vacation so I wasn'tpaying attention, but then again
, again, I was forced to watchFox.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
So I was watching more than normal.
So, trump, I think some shoesare about to drop, dude Good
good.
Did you see where they gotFauci's phone and hard?

Speaker 1 (26:18):
drive.
Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
yeah, I think those two things and those two
announcements are linked.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Good, I mean, fauci is a war criminal as far as I'm
concerned and, uh, I don'tbelieve in most war crimes, but
what he did absolutely is wellsaid differently it's.
It's certainly a crime againsthumanity I don't give a shit
about humanity, just my country.
I don't care if he was doingthis shit in China, I care about

(26:46):
him doing it so poorly that itspilled out of China.
So it's.
If we don't get him, I'd besurprised if somebody else
doesn't.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Who do you think would get him?

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Although a lot of countries spent a lot of money
on this.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Who do you think would try him?
Although a lot of countriesspent a lot of money on this?
Who do you think would try andget him?
Gene?

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I'd say pick any European country would.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Any European country or one Slavic country.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
They could be Slavic.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
All I know is they're Europeanan no, my point is has
the kremlin been, uh, tellingyou this as?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
as I have no knowledge of any kremlins in
northern mexico.
Um.
So as the uh, the details startleaking out, I think a lot more
people are going to startgetting mad at Fauci.
I'm already mad at him forkilling dogs, so you know yeah,
I.
I, I, I agree with that.
In inventing AIDS, that was theother thing he did.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
So I think the interesting thing is that, like
the Hunter Biden pardon wasapparently not auto pen.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Amazing, isn't that?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, oh, I think amazing, isn't it?
Yeah, oh, I think it's going tobe very interesting to see who
was auto pen and who wasn't, andwho they decide to go after.
And, quite frankly, if theyeven decide to say you know what
?
Uh, we don't care if you've gota pardon or not.
Dude, the blanket pardon likethis is not legal no, and we're
gonna go through.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
In general, I don't think are legal.
I think they're more in theconstitution yes, they are legal
but they're not.
I mean, it doesn't really saywhat that pardon means, just
this word pardon.
You can pardon somebody andthey'll spend the rest of their
time in jail for the rest oftheir lives.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
That's pardonable no, that is not what is understood
it might be depends on yourdisingen.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
It all depends on the legal interpretation.
Okay.
I think.
But the kidding aside though,the point here is that since
when can you pre-pardon?
That seems to be a fairly newconcept.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Or blanket pardon.
Yes, I get when somebody hasbeen already convicted.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
like if you take somebody that's convicted and
you make them stop serving theirsentence by pardoning them, I
get that.
But when do you get to say, ohyeah, if you ever charge this
guy for any crime, he has a getout of jail free card for the
future?
So say the president, I don'tbelieve that's in the

(29:25):
constitution, dude.
I think a pardon requires aconviction.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
I agree with you and that's, but it's never been
challenged because it's a fakething.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
It doesn't exist.
Why would you know?
I agree with you challenge I.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I don't think that, uh, the nixon pardon was legal
either, but it was done.
He didn't need pardoning, hedidn't do anything wrong.
I well, we can debate that some.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
but okay, g Gordon Liddy was the guy that went to
prison for it, you know, and hedid a sign, so it's all good,
nixon, there was nothing toconvince Nixon of of there, in
my opinion, conspiracy yeah, theguy was senile.
He can't be conspiratorial whenyou're senile.
How was nixon senile?
He had no memory.

(30:16):
He had to record everything ontape just to remember, please,
my god how do you not know this?
oh, jesus, gene, come on now youshow me a guy, I'll tell you
why he's innocent uh, gene thefixer to live.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, anyway, uh, I, I did you.
Did you watch cash patel on uh?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I did.
Cash looked like a squirrelylittle rat really.
He was nervous as fuck.
Do you not pick that up at all?
He looked like an indianstudent about to cheat on his
medical exam.
Okay tell me more well, I mean,I don't know.

(31:02):
There's a whole lot more,because I've seen those like um,
you know, like you're not, youdon't get as good grades your
parents think you do, and soyou're gonna have to resort to
paying somebody for the answers.
And that's what cash lookedlike in my opinion.
What did you think?

Speaker 2 (31:19):
um, I think, interpret it a little
differently, I think especiallywhen you look at what Pam Bondi
was caught on tape saying.
I think he was trying to nothave a gaffe and not say

(31:40):
something and then something nothappen.
But I think he is a honestactor uh and I think that that
honest actor is uh very nervousthat he's going to be stopped
from doing what he wants to do.
Uh, because I don't think cashor dan bongino are gonna sit

(32:03):
there and not let something comeout, unless but gino's pretty
vocal.
I watched him as well unlessthere's a gun to their family's
head.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Um, so yeah yeah, but gino seemed like he was a lot
more animated and more of theyou know, let them be damned
kind of attitude.
Cash seemed to be a lot lesssure of himself in this video,
in this interview, than what Iremember him being on Tim Pool.

(32:35):
Well where he didn't have a job.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
But I think I guess the question is what is the
interpretation of you know whywe think that is?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Well, because I think there's a few things, and while
I do think that Elon Musk who,by the way, everybody knows, has
Asperger's- and so any insultsfrom him should not be taken
lightly.
We'll get to him later, but I'musing him as a reference point,
much like he said what he saidabout Trump hanging out with

(33:14):
Epstein.
I think the reality is the vastmajority of our senators and a
good chunk of our congressmenalso hung out with epstein, and
so it's not a person or even agroup of a few people stopping
data from being released.
It is literally one entirebranch of the government, quite

(33:37):
possibly half the judicialbranch of the government as well
, because judges who knows whatthey're wearing under their
robes?
they're probably pedophiles andthen, uh, you know, like trying
to fight against congress, Ithink for any administration is
going to be an uphill battle,but fighting against congress,
who also has all kinds of otherblackmail material against your

(34:01):
boss and his boss and his boss,I think is really hard well, I I
think, uh, I think that thereare.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I I think that that's partially right, but so it's
tied into this.
So let's, let's do talk alittle bit about trump musk.
I I think the trump musk thingis staged.
I really do.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Oh my god you, you and a bunch of other people.
I know I think you're allidiots.
There's no way, because they're.
These are two billionaires.
Billionaires do not have anormal sense of humor and
attitude that the rest of thepeople have.
They had to get to where theyare in life by doing things

(34:45):
other people wouldn't do.
Both of them have an extremelyhigh narcissistic tendency.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
They express it differently.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Trump expresses it by always trying to show off all
the things he has.
Musk tries to express it by I'mthe smartest guy in the world.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
I don't need things.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Things don't matter.
There's nobody that can do whatI do.
When these two guys were like,uh, you know, an unmovable
object and an unstoppable object, kidding, you knew something
fantastic was going to happenwhen they decided to hit each
other, and and I think that'sexactly what we're seeing is
we're seeing two guys that justdon't give a shit about doing

(35:27):
this in public, and so they didit in public, whereas most
people of a certain level, likethe millionaires, would never do
this in public.
Only billionaires would do thisin public.
Billionaires and people livingin the street.
That's the two types of peoplethat would do this in public,
with everybody else sittingaround eating popcorn.

(35:47):
So I don't think it's staged, Ithink it's real.
I think they both lashed out.
They both said some incrediblyhurtful, insulting things about
the other.
You know, trump called musk adrug addict.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, but hold on, first of all musk that he.
He says he does drugs, which hedoes um and well holding a
clearance, that becomes aproblem.
But anyway, let's just focus onone thing, though.
The way for musk phrased thattrump was on the epstein files

(36:22):
and that's why they're not beingreleased.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, I think that statement is going to get every
democrat in the countryclamoring to have those files
released I know that's literallywhat all of you guys say is
that this is all a way to getthe democrats to push through
releasing the files.
Democrats can't do that becausethere are more of them in there

(36:45):
than they are of the of Trumpand Musk, or Trump Musk's not in
there, it's I mean.
The big joke with that Iassumed you would start off with
is like the the Epstein fileswon't be released until Mossad
decides to release them.
Oh well, that's a given.

(37:08):
When they decide that it'sbeneficial for them to release
the files, all the files will bereleased.
So you know, if the US decidesto stop supporting Israel, we're
going to see the Epstein fileswhich would you prefer.
Take your pick.

(37:28):
Say that again.
Take your pick.
Which would you prefer?
Uh between the files, uh-huh uhand uh not send israel any
money I know it's a win-win foryou and then, or uh not see the
files and uh keep sending Israelmoney?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Oh, stop sending Israel money and see the files
Duh.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Exactly, but I don't think our Congress critters are
going to take that vote.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
We will see.
So, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
I mean, I've predicted, remember.
I said originally these fileswould never be seen.
Yeah, I don't care who says andannounces what.
No.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
It ain't going to happen.
He's the real deal, he is thereal deal.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
He was not a pretend pedophile, arguably by the laws
of that island.
He wasn't a pedophile at allBecause he got to dictate what
age consent was on his ownisland.
But you know, if you look at USlaws which the US tends to look
at US laws for US citizens,regardless of what country

(38:36):
they're in if you do somethingthat is illegal in the US but
legal in the country that you'revisiting, us still considers it
a crime.
Well, the main crime would betrafficking.
But that's such an inventedcrime, it's such a bullshit
thing that they've created outof thin air.
Uh, trafficking used to meansomething like trafficking used

(39:00):
to be you're buying people,you're buying slaves.
It has gotten morphed intosomebody coerced their
girlfriend into doing sexualacts and that's now considered
trafficking.
Okay.
So I think, much like withother words like Nazi, when you

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use them too much, they losetheir meaning, they lose their
strength, they lose their power.
I think trafficking is in theexact same boat, because it's
been greatly overused.
I've seen countless videos onYouTube of men being accused of
trafficking and when you look at, well, who did they traffic?
Well, it turns out it was theirex-girlfriend.

(39:46):
Okay, and how exactly did theytrack that?
Well, they threatened to leaveher if she didn't do something.
That's now called trafficking.
I don't buy it.
And the way that you can tellis in the way that the person

(40:07):
that is allegedly beingtrafficked acts, because you
could make just as much of anargument that Jalene Maxwell was
being trafficked as any of theother women there, the way that
that word is currently used.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Except she's a willing participant.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Well, yes, and that's what I will say is, to some
extent everybody's a willingparticipant and I I guarantee
that Maxwell was not a 100%willing participant you don't
think she was his handler.
God, no.

(40:56):
Why not no willing participant?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
you don't think she was his handler god no why not?
No, uh, she wouldn't be inprison right now if she was okay
.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
I I don't know, man.
No, she's in prison.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
What proof of this do we have?

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Well, she's not dead, so that's a good sign.
So are you assuming that she'snot in prison right now?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I would not be surprised if I learned out that
she was not in prison but on abeach somewhere.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Mm-hmm.
Well, we don't really know ifhe ever got killed either.
We saw some crappy ass videothat alleges it was him.
How do we know that was him?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
well, that's why it's going to be very interesting to
see what cash and dan andeverybody ends up putting out
that will be nothing nothing.
I, I don't know, man I I stillhave some faith that we're gonna
get some major moves, you knowlet me, let me ask you this is

(41:58):
there a variant of this?

Speaker 1 (42:01):
and I'm curious because I I'm obviously
wondering if my prediction wouldbe correct, but is there a
variant of this somehow which,in your mind, would justify not
putting the data out, like whatwould have to be associated with
this for you to think that,okay, well, they're making the
right choice and not releasingit publicly.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Nothing Okay, I don't think there's yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
I think, yeah, you're more of the kind of boy scout
type, um, so look, if he didn'tlike.
I know it's fun to talk abouthim being a massad agent, right,
but let's say he didn't workfor massad.
Let's say he worked for the ciaand that this was a illegal

(42:48):
operation inside the unitedstates.
The cia used to get its waywith a variety of folks and
let's say that this was signedoff on by barack obama and
before him, by joy.
It predates predates Becausethey're related, right.

(43:08):
You know they're cousins andyou know we have ex-presidents,
we have tons of members ofCongress, we have a lot of rich
people that donate money tomembers of Congress that either
were part of or were ensnared bythis operation.

(43:31):
I will say that this isn't theonly operation of this type
going on right now.
Yeah, so do you want to?
Jeopardize.
Well, I was trying, okay, goahead All right.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
So one of the things I would say is a lot of the
allegations are that a lot ofpeople did not know that these
women were underage.
They assumed they were over 18.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah, because they were all like 16 or 17.
Maybe 15.
But old enough that they didn'tlook like they were preteens,
correct, which is the firstthing most people think of when
you say pedophile.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Right and let's be clear, there is a, at least for
me.
I think there's a bigdifference between consensually
having sex with, like, a 16 yearold.
If you're an 18 year old, thena 40 year old man molesting a
child, a prepubescent child.
I think there's a vastlydifferent.
Like statutory shouldn't exist,I guess is what I'm saying I

(44:33):
agree there needs to be betterdefinitions around that.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I agree 18 is an arbitrary number that people
came up with here in the us thatthat is at best an average, at
worst purely arbitrary.
Um, for the majority of humanhistory, the age of impregnation
not just consent was 13.
That was usually when, uh, youknow, women could have kids, and

(45:01):
we all know that pre-20thcentury childbirth was a
dangerous activity.
About 30% of women died duringchildbirth.
And so this idea that, well,we're going to wait until she's
like 30 before we're going tohave kids, the human population
does not survive.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, but regardless, we can get back to your point.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yeah, my point is let's say that there, that this
was a us operation, fullysanctioned by all the top
branches of the us government,including judicial and
presidential and congressional,and there are currently multiple
similar operations going onright now.
Would you jeopardize all ofthat to reveal details about

(45:52):
this one past thing that the guywho was doing it was already
convicted of anyway?

Speaker 2 (45:59):
um, yeah, because it's not about him.
I want to.
I want to get the politicians,every single one of them I want
to be able to remove half ofcongress yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
So you, you just want to use this as a bludgeon.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
You want Congress to bludgeon?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
itself, which ain't going to happen.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
I want them to be held accountable for what they
chose to do.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah, well, it works when you ask the very people who
did the thing to be accountableto themselves.
It never happened.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
I understand it's like the police.
We investigated ourselves andfound exactly.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
We investigated ourselves.
It doesn't work.
It doesn't work, and I Isuspect here the the reality of
the situation, given the lack ofmore immediate details
immediately upon the sentencingor before, even during the trial
itself.
Um, it was became pretty clearto me that this is a fully

(46:55):
sanctioned and b probably notunique.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
So I I don't necessarily agree with that.
What I would say is I so, forinstance, trump Trump's
involvement from what we know,you know he flew on Epstein's
plane not to the island but adifferent location with his kids
.
I don't think Trump was intothis, I don't think he was

(47:21):
ensnared by this and I think hecould be the person to take this
down.
But we'll find out and I may beproven totally wrong, but I can
be hopeful.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Here's what I suspect .
I'm going to use Zachum's razorhere and say that the most
likely scenario is that Trump ismore involved than we've been
led to believe, but not nearlyas involved as the people that
hate Trump think he is, whichprobably means, if he hasn't
been to the island, he's likelybeen around Epstein with these

(47:56):
young women and not saidanything and not pointed
anything out.
And basically, if you'rehanging out with a dude who's
got slaves and you do nothing,how guilty are you?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Well, I'll say this having his slaves yeah, but I'll
say this you know the um, whatwas that?
Uh, epstein accuser that justpassed away, what was her name?
Bill gates, the accuser, thechick, yeah yeah, I can't
remember her name anyway, shecame out and said number 14 yeah
, yeah, she said.
She came out and said you know,hey, um, trump was always nice

(48:36):
and respectful.
Uh, around there, he never didanything to us.
Like she defended trump or not,like he never flirted with us
and so on.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Yeah, but she'd spend time.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yes, she'd been at the same party.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Party or parties.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Or events or bedrooms .

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Theoretically just a party.
I mean, the more she said aboutTrump, the guiltier he looks.
How so?
Because a person that barelysaw him in passing once wouldn't
have a whole lot to say.
Okay, this is like courtroom101 stuff the more information
somebody has, the moreintimately knowledgeable they

(49:16):
are about that person right, butthere wasn't a whole lot said.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
It was just you know, hey, at this party he didn't do
this.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
So I don't see that as an indictment of trump it's
good that he didn't, and thereprobably isn't an indictment of
trump for uh, you know, forwhatever I mean.
Obviously he wasn't the onetrafficking, but probably he
probably never had sex withanybody in their age either.
But is that going to besufficient enough for the guy

(49:48):
that that talked about grabbedhim by the pussy to not have his
image and reputation tarnished?
I, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Even even if he I think as long as he did not
there's no video or proof thattrump ever did anything with an
underage girl yeah, knowingly orotherwise in the files.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
I think he has nothing to lose at this point so
if a guy goes to a whorehouse,has sex there well, everyone
knows he's a philanderer.
This is not it hangs out let mefinish, hangs out.
The bar talks to the girlsworking there.
Knows the girls are underageand other people are having sex
with underage girl, but hedoesn't.

(50:34):
Do you think that somehow makeshim be the good guy here?

Speaker 2 (50:41):
I don't think it makes him a good guy at all, but
I don't think it's anythingthat they could use to really.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
I mean, again we have what you tell me why has trump
not just blanket uncensored thisstuff?
Because he has the power totake anything, any document in
government and declassify it.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
The argument has been made that they don't want to
re-victimize the women, sothat's why they're going through
it.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
That's a bullshit argument, because the women have
been in court, some of them,yeah, and the ones that haven't
clearly uh, you know they don't,uh, they're not, they're not
going to provide any details.
Well, how are they going to bevictimized?
I, I don't know, man, I I wouldit's a.
I think it's a speciousargument.
I think it's a.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
I think it has enough credibility to get for me to
give them a few months to get itdone, but they need to get it
done and get it out well, whatdoes that mean?

Speaker 1 (51:31):
just a whole like 180 pages of black lines no, I
think.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Well, first of all, it better be way more than 180
pages, and what it should haveis victim names redacted, and
that's about it they could dothat today.
They don't have to have threemonths to do that well, you
could have done it frankly,censoring footage, doing lots of
things okay we will see noreason for it.

(51:56):
There's this story's not goingto go away then, and it's really
going to hurt it's going torecirculate, but it goes away
after usually a week or two andpeople stop talking about it for
a while and then it comes backand then they stop again.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Bottom line is if trump wanted to, he could have
made this happen week one okaywhy does?

Speaker 2 (52:18):
he not want to, unless he's mentioned but even
if he is mentioned, I don't seehow it would preclude that like
that's not what it was saying.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Musk was saying that they're not published because
trump's name is in there.
That's all he said.
He didn't say trump banged agirl who was underage.
He just simply said the reasonthe documents aren't out is
essentially what I just said,which is trump doesn't want them
to be out and therefore they'renot out.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
I think it does more to damage trump and the faith in
the administration that heneeds for the excuse me for for
the uh, midterms it does.
I think it did before that, butI I really think it does more
to damage trump for the midtermsnot releasing it than releasing
it and being named and saying,hey, you hung out with this dude

(53:09):
.
You were there, you knew thiswas happening I don't disagree,
yeah, I don't agree, so I don'tthink that's what's preventing
him from uh, trump doesn'tnecessarily think the same way
that you and I do you're right,he's usually craftier, and
that's why I think that this wasall a setup okay, all right,
well, we'll, we'll, we'll keepthe QAnon torch burning, I guess

(53:31):
, jesus Christ.
Where we go one, we go all.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
I heard this for three and a half years.
This has all been planned.
Trump is about to announce thatthe government is really
reporting to him and he is aboutto take over.
Yeah, I never bought into the qanon, bullshit dude but it's
the same mentality, it's thisidea that it's all.
Everything you see, no matterwhat it looks like, it's all

(54:00):
pre-planned and we're expectinga miracle to To come through,
and it never does.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
So, so, so Are we done with this, or is there any
more?
Almost One last thing is yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
I think Trump Could have potentially screwed up big
time with Elon.
How's that?
Because I think that Probablyother people know and certainly
it's pretty obvious If you lookat the stats.
Trump just lost the midterm.
If Elon doesn't want him to winit, it would take very little
effort by Elon to make Trump bea lame duck by the end of his

(54:40):
second two years by simplymaking sure and supporting a
couple of centrist Democrats inwinning against Republicans.
He did it the other way around.
He did it for the Republicansin a number of states this
election.
He could flip around, do it fora couple of Democrats in the
next election.
That's it Trump's done.

(55:01):
He had two years out of thisterm.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Again.
That's part of the reason why Idon't.
Why wouldn't trump uh cow alittle?
Oh my god, yeah, but you don't.
You don't get to be abillionaire by letting your ego
drive you to dumb decisions well.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
He's very open and always willing to change what
side I'm talking about Trump now.
Change what side he thinkssomebody on.
There's been people who'scredit criticized like crazy,
that he's ended up bringing onand talking about how good they
are.
But he's also done the opposite, just like he did with Elon,
whereas somebody that he talkedabout like he's one of the

(55:49):
greatest people in America, he'sa real treasure, blah, blah,
blah, blah blah.
I always thought he was a drugaddict.
You know, I told him he needsto wrap up.
I'm done with him.
He's not doing anything here.
It's like that happened 180degrees in two days, in 48 hours
.
It was amazing to see it washours.
It was amazing to see it waspredictable.

(56:09):
It was very predictable becauseTrump's done it both directions
in the past.
He did it with Kennedy.
You know Kennedy was this guywho is crazy until Kennedy
joined the Trump team and thennow he's like fantastic and
awesome and Elon was on the team.
More than anything, this kindof makes Vivek look smart

(56:35):
Because he left early.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
It also makes.
One of the things you also haveto consider is what happened
with Ted Cruz Right?

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Ted Cruz got brought back into the fold.
I guarantee you that Elon willend up being brought back into
the fold.
Elon's not a politician.
I think he's a lot morepowerful than the politician.
Well, do you think elon's goingto what elon's going?
You know he's talking aboutdismantling, launch systems and

(57:03):
everything else, like you know,uh do you think he's gonna do
that.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
I think that's just hot air from both sides, because
okay first of all.
So trump can't cancel contractsthat nasa did and elon can't
cancel contracts with nasa.
That would get tied up in courtfor longer than four years and
during that time the courts willensure that everything keeps
happening as usual.
So neither one of them can dothose things.

(57:29):
I think that's just, you know,hot air on both sides, frankly,
but how stupid it is to saysomething negative about Elon
and what his companies are doingfor the government.
It's like really dude.
Not only did he get Trumpelected, he's the only reason
that the US still has access tothe International Space Station

(57:50):
right now.
You think that they would haveaccess if there was sanctions
against Russia right now?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
No.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
No, that's it.
America's done with ISS,europeans, you're done with ISS.
Now it's only going to beRussia and China going.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
China doesn't participate in ISS.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Ah, they didn't, but Russia could invite them, since
they're the ones sending peopleup and nobody else wants to go.
My point is I think Trump isthinking he's just some crony
that came in to work for himthat really liked him,
forgetting that Elon's theactual billionaire, trump's the

(58:35):
barely a billionaire.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Okay, it's the three comma club, dude, and you ain't
in it.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yeah, except Elon's almost in the fourth comma club,
and he's the only one in it.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
He is not anywhere near a fourth comma club.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
He's the closest of anybody else, except for putin
okay, okay, uh, speaking ofrussia getting their ass kicked
um the drone attack, yeah, yeah,I guess it hasn't been that
long since we haven't talkedabout, so I gotta say I think
this was one of the mostbrilliant PR moves anybody could

(59:12):
accomplish.
Whoever came up with thiswhether it was the UK or the U?
S is obviously wasn't Ukraine,but whoever came up with it?
Fucking amazing that that issomething that will be in the
history books forever.
Regardless of the end outcomeof the war, everybody will learn
about this drone attack in thefuture.

(59:32):
So good job.
Um, what do you want to talkabout it?
I mean, there's practicalaspects, which is like.
The same reason that it's greatis because somebody has to be
aware enough of treaties betweenrussia and the us to know that

(59:54):
those planes have to be visible24 7, right?

Speaker 2 (59:59):
so they've been sitting.
I want to explain as to whyyeah, it's, it's part of the
same as the our.
You know the buff right.
It's part of the nuclear triad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Exactly, it's part of the negotiated treaties.
Each country knows how manynuclear-capable assets the other
country has and it has an easyaccess to evaluate if those
numbers have either changed orany have gone missing, and that
is for mutual safety.
The US does the exact samething as Russia.

(01:00:32):
In this case.
The US also has their planesgrounded and visible from the
nuclear triad for inspectionpurposes, with the assumption
that no other country would dareto attack these nuclear capable
delivery vehicles because theywould be getting the wrath at

(01:00:58):
that point, because you know anyattack on a country that has
the well at this point I'm goingto assume China has more than
everybody, but certainly anycountry that has as many as
Russia or the US or China youdon't fuck with them because
they will retaliate hard.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Well, you know, he bombed the hell out of Kiev.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Yeah, that's not hard and it's pronounced.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Kiev.
That was his retaliation.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Yeah, that's not even the beginning of it.
So, anyway, the point is, theone thing they didn't consider
in that treaty, or when theyagreed to that treaty, is what
if you're already in a war withsomebody and any act that they
do in that war is just part ofthat war.

(01:01:58):
It's not a new aggressive,hostile act that you can then go
nuke them for.
It is simply, you know,guerrilla tactics but still a
part of that war.
So it's uh, uh.
I think I think the treaty isbasically done at this point,
because certainly russia will nolonger be keeping their, their

(01:02:23):
strategic bombers, uh, visible.
They're all going to be hiddenmoving forward.
Also, the actual way thatUkraine carried this out, I
thought, was both hilarious andbrilliant by using regular
trucks with pallets on them witha fake roof and essentially

(01:02:45):
it's right out of James Bond.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Well, it tells me something.
There's not a lot of borderinspection happening.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
There's very little yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
You know, going into Russia.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that's definitely thecase, you know.
You talk about the US border.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
I bet that will change.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
I don't.
I mean maybe they'll try.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Are you saying Russians are lazy and easily
bribed?

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Well, that too, but Russia has the longest border of
any country in the world andnot the largest population by
any stretch.
So guarding that border isimpossible.
It's literally impossible.
You could guard sections ofthat border, you can have some
inspections of vehicles, butyou're never going to have full
border security.
And for a country that size itis literally physically

(01:03:33):
impossible.
Imagine if, instead of theatlantic and the pacific, us had
other countries that were onits borders.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
I mean it'd be, it'd be a nightmare, because no,
there's a reason why the uscould probably take on the
entirety of the rest of theworld and win um, I mean, we'll
seei.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
I think a very high scenario there is that the us
just simply turns into losangeles, and we've we've reada
book series that shows exactlythat yeah by the way?

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
did you see the what I put in the uh signal chat?

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
no, I usually don't look at signal while we're
recording, but I can make aneffort to if you want me to I
mean, jesus, that then you don'twhen I put stuff in your
precious company.
That's because I usually havemy eyes closed when I'm
recording a podcast oh my god,why.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
How could you possibly do that?
That's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
It makes it easier for me to focus on what we're
talking about.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
So have you seen the no Kings Day protest?

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
I'm sorry, I just saw your picture of Trump with the
black guy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Elon Musk, yes, and the baby fat, jd Vance.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
You saw JD's.
I fucking love that guy man.
I'm impressed you saw his poston x that day right like right
away.
No, so his post on x was apicture of him and um that
hillbilly podcaster guy with the.
I forget his name.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
You know who I'm talking about the comedian guy
with the long um jesus.
Yeah, I know you're talkingabout that guy, but yeah and and
uh, they're sitting there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
What looked like wearing shorts and drinking beer
, but I'm sure they weren't.
But uh, and then the taglinethat he posted with is so it's a
slow news day, so I figured I'dhang out here today.
I mean, it was just perfect,fucking understated sense of
humor.
That both conveys that, yes, heknows that shit shit's flying

(01:05:39):
everywhere but, also like he'sone of the guys sitting with the
popcorn yeah, yeah, yeah well Ilike jd vance.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
I think he will be the next president.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
I really think he is quickly getting ahead of Bill
Clinton in my book of guys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I want to have a drink with why would you want to
have a drink with Clinton?

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Clinton's been the number one alive president on my
list who I would drink with.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
I've met Clinton.
I haven't had a drink, forfuck's sake yes, so did I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Just well, I've met his bodyguards anyway, as they
pushed me out out of the way.
But um the uh he.
He always seemed like the kindof guy that would have a bunch
of funny dirty stories to telland just he'd be a fun guy to
hang with, regardless ofpolitics.

(01:06:34):
He was clearly the most fun ofall the recent presidents.
Okay.
Everybody until Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
I think he's definitely the most seductive of
any of the presidents.
Like when I shook his hand asmuch as I don't like his
policies, I will tell you I feltlike I was the only person in
the room well, I don't want togo to sleep with him, but still
that's not what I meant byseductive.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Okay, all right well, you never know with you, but
either way.
Well, all I'm saying is that Ihave had this list since I was
in high school of, like you know, of the living presidents who
would I want, and it's justalways been clinton.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
I've never had anybody else on it okay, so back
to what I was saying before wewent on this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Uh little but I like jd vance, he might replace
clinton yeah, if he becomespresident yeah, if he becomes
president.
So it's got an uphill battlehere I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I think he's got a pretty good shot.
So there are two things that Isent you that I think are kind
of interesting one matt wallaceshowing uh train tracks moving
around dc, uh a shit ton oftanks.
And then the other thing that Ithought was interesting is this
no king's day that they've gotplanned for the 14th, which?

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
is next Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
It is a nationwide rise-up protest.
Did you click on the link?

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Click on the link Day of Defiance.
I mean they've got locationsall over the United States where
they're saying that they'regoing to do this including
Mexico and everything else.
Yeah, no, king's Day Town HallRegister.
Now you know and look at who'sgoing to be speaking.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Like there's a lot of stuff that's coming Mexico and
Cuba labeled, but no UnitedStates.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Yep Anyway.
So I don't know, man, we mighthave some very interesting false
flags, uh, coming on well,isn't that a good?

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
would that be a good thing, though, because they'd be
false legs for our side no, butlook I.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
All I can tell you is I don't see any way out of a
civil war you know, part of whatI sent to you earlier was a you
know we already talked about alittle bit.
You know pat buchanan talkingabout he sees four americas I
think there's probably more thanthat and then ray dalio coming
out and talking about that, likewe are.
I think what we see in la, whatwe see being planned, uh, for

(01:09:07):
around the country this saturday, coming to a place near you, we
got to pay attention to becauseit this is very much how this
ends up being a civil war.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
So yeah, okay, um, like, what does that change,
though?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
I mean, you carry everything anyway well, I'm
going to mexico next week and Ican't, so that's what that
changes yeah, but mexico isn'tgonna have a civil war yeah, but
I hope I can fly back to theunited states oh, you'll be able
to at least walk through theboard.
Oh, that's right, they closedthe border and I'm not gonna

(01:09:45):
walk from cancunun to Texas.
I read a book about that, yeah,especially when I can't carry
through cartel country this doesnot sound fun to me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Cartel country.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
You mean?
Mexico.
It has a name damn it, it's notthe Gulf of Cartel.
God damn it.
It should be.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Oh God damn, yeah, sure, god damn it.
It should be.
Oh god damn, yeah, sure it'sinteresting.
I, I think ultimately nothing'sgonna change.
Uh, we'll see little eruptionshere and there.
Um, I think also, anyone thatexpected trump coming in for his
second term to have a mostlypeaceful second term is nuts.
Obviously, there was going tobe an insane amount of pushback

(01:10:38):
from Democrats.
I certainly expected it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
We haven't really seen it yet, though.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Well, yeah him sending troops for the first
time in this century yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Okay, well, you know, we'll see, we'll see how it?
Turns out.
We'll see tonight.
You know how they respond.
You know the Marines are nowgetting involved.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
By the way, that's a stupid cartoon you just sent me.
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
It perfectly illustrates the truth of the
Internet?

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Nobody from John X believes the Internet.
We, unlike you all, were aroundbefore the Internet and know
how to use our heads for thingswithout the internet.
It says everything.
An AI says no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Boomers and Gen X believe everything an AI says.
It's the three-headed dragonmeme, with the retarded faces
being the boomers and gen x andgen, then gen z, and the only
ones who are sharpers.
The millennials condition todistrust everything on the
internet yeah, it's, it'sliterally backwards.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
The millennials are literally the fucked up
generation.
The gen z's are starting to gettired of it and the uh, the gen
xers have never believed any ofit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Yeah, gen xers are getting uh passed over for
millennials exactly becausewe're too smart uh-huh, uh-huh
nobody wants that much smartnessall at once, oh well, I am, you
know, I am of the eldermillennial generation.
That, uh, is very differentthan what people think.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Yeah, it's called Gen X.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
I am clearly not Gen X dude.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
You're a hell of a lot more Gen X than you think
you are.
Yeah, you would not fit in withmost of your cohort.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
No, no, I don't Very much, so All right, well, what
else you got?
So we got LA riots, we gotCivil War, we got the Trump
stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
The Trump-Musk stuff was fascinating.
Do you have any comments on thewhole quadcopter thing?
I mean, talk a little moreabout that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
First of all, I don't see how Russia doesn't
retaliate and, quite frankly, Ithink this was greenlit under
the O'Biden, o'biden, the Bidenadministration.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
It was the O'Biden.
You're right about that.
That's who was actually runningthings.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
So I think this was Biden, and I think when the
Trump admin got in, no one toldhim about it, otherwise I think
Trump would have stopped it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Well, it had to be current, recent satellite data.
I mean, I guess the Brits getit from us anyway and they could
share it without our knowledge,but I think that would have
some penalties.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
So more than likely it was actually us data coming
from the us well, except theyknow where these are generally
put and they know how to hitthem, because they have these
planes in yeah, the, you know,in ukraine yeah yeah, so we will
.
We will see what comes out ofit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
But yeah, the one the most interesting bit for me got
passed over in all the us media.
But if you watch world media,you'd find out that china has
banned sales of dji drones andparts.
Most importantly, now foreurope yeah yep which is
congratulations, ukraine.
One more thing you fucked upfor the rest of Europe.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
But you know what's going to happen when Russia
truly decides to retaliate.
How is that going to go?
Right, because Zelenskyimmediately came out after this
attack.
Oh, we want a ceasefire.
We want a ceasefire.
We're calling for a ceasefire.
Yeah, uh-huh, yeah, that's nothow that works.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Yeah, yeah, uh-huh, yeah, that's not how that works
today.
Yeah, yeah, that's exactlyright.
Yeah, it's.
Imagine.
Well, no, it's not even goingto go there, but okay, I'll go
there.
Imagine somebody using a nukeand then immediately calling for
a ceasefire right after.
How well is that going to flyfor any country?
Oh, okay, okay, we're done.
We're done, we got ours off.

(01:14:57):
We surrender.
So the one last thing about DJII want to mention.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
How many planes do you think were actually
destroyed, though?

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Well destroyed is a tough word.
Someone will be irreparablydamaged because they're old.
Some of them will be repaired,but they hit 44.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
I mean, I've heard that from the russian sources so
russia's officially saying 20,I think so let's say they have
20 half of their fleet of their.
You know the problem that whatreally may pisses me off at
ukraine for doing this is theodds of r Russia using nukes on

(01:15:40):
Ukraine.
Just went through the roof.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Yeah, they probably rose as a result of that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
yeah, You're attacking something that is part
of Russia's nuclear deterrenceAgainst everybody, like the US.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
You're effectively inviting the US to do a first
strike is what you're doing likecome on guys, we took, we took
their fence down.
Now you go and rush them that'skind of what it what it would
be seen from russia's standpoint, as it's like they got ukraine
to take down the fence so thatthey can now rush in.

(01:16:18):
Uh, but the last bit about DJIsmost people keep hearing over
and over in the news.
Like Ukrainian drones,ukrainian drone industry,
they're built in Ukraine.
They're not built in Ukraine.
What they do is assemble themfrom parts and fit things like
explosives, timers anddetonators on them, but they're

(01:16:38):
all buying off the shelf DJIparts and that's what's coming
to an end.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Well, you know, I guarantee you that this is going
to uh change the way uh peoplelook at it.
Did you see the army guys on uhon the onset podcast this last
week?

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
I saw some of them.
What bit were you referring to?

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
just, they were talking about some of the new
kit and the new direction thatthe army is going to based off
of this, yeah, based off whatthey're learning from this war
yeah, I think everybody'swatching and that's a I.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
I mentioned this to a few people as well.
I think that, aside from thefact that we're literally
killing thousands of men but ifyou gloss over that part this
war has been an awesome learningopportunity for every country.
Everybody is getting to seewhat works, what doesn't work,
what technology is going tobackstop against other

(01:17:32):
technology.
Is it important for actualhumans to be involved or not
important?
Is it important for actualhumans to be involved or not
important?
And what we're finding is aslow transition to a drone slash
, robot based warfare, andeverybody knows that robots
against people, the people die.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Well, and that's one of the things they were talking
about, you know, like using abreaching robot and how that
could be done versus sending ahuman in.
They were talking about the newversion of the m1a abram.
Uh, the m1 abrams um having anautonomous version of it,
because they're putting an autoloader in the abrams now, uh,
which it'll be interesting tosee because that's one of the

(01:18:14):
deficiencies in the russian tank.
You know, if you hit thatturret and the auto loader cooks
off the ammunition, theneverybody in the tank dies.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
So yeah, yeah, it's good tech.
What we're also going to startseeing is an evolution of
anti-autonomous vehicle tech,which so far is just nascent.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Well, actually they were talking about some of that.
You know a the, you know thethe um.
The combat shotgun hasdefinitely made a resurgence.
Come back, yeah, you know,there's no doubt about that,
because you know birdshot uh cantake down a drone, absolutely,
um, yeah you just better be farenough away that the blast from
the explosion isn't going tokill you.

(01:19:02):
Yeah, but the other thing thatthey are working on is
high-powered microwaves.
High-powered microwaves thatare very directional.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
Yep and that's.
These are all things that havebeen in the experimental phase.
I think we're going to startseeing more countries ruling
them out standard, so that'llhappen in the US obviously as
well.
In a lot of ways, the US isactually learning more from
watching what Russia respondswith than they are from anything

(01:19:38):
about the actual weapons usedby Ukraine, because in the next
war that the US is involved in,they will effectively be in
Russia's shoes.
It'll be a smaller scrappier,more guerrilla-type fighting
using things like drones androbots to hit and run, whereas
the US is more reliant on largetroop movements with large bases

(01:20:03):
of operations and all thelogistics that come with that.
So this has definitely been atremendous learning experience,
and I've got a couple of friendsin the military that are still
active that are definitelyagreeing with what I'm saying

(01:20:25):
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Well, and it's going to be interesting to see what
they do, for this is somethingthat I think is pretty
interesting on how Trump and theadmin are trying to cut budgets
and the admin are trying to cutbudgets, you know, like.
Did you see the Chevy Tahoething that they are going to
start replacing Humvees andstuff with?
Did you see that on thatpodcast?

(01:20:48):
No.
So they're basically taking aChevy Tahoe and putting a
different body on it, but it isan off-the-shelf basic Chevy.
Tahoe, that's a horrible ideawhy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Everybody knows that I, to be a Toyota, get a Hilux.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Yeah well, American made.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Make a Hilux in America and finally sell it here
.
That would be great, buteverybody knows it's like the
most insurmountable truck andthe one used by 9 out of 10
guerrilla or insurgency groupsis a Toyota Hilux.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Yeah, so part of the reason why they wanted to do
this is because they wanted forthe airborne to be able to move
around here.
I'll send you a link.
It's pretty neat.
But some up armor, some not.
What they can do with it, whatthey can't, being mobile, being

(01:21:40):
able to drop this behind enemylines and just do things
differently.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Dude, you could sell these things down anywhere in
the southern states.
I would fucking buy one in aheartbeat, of course, you would.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Are you kidding me?
It's very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
It's basically a jeeped out, stripped body of a a
uh chevy tahoe yeah, and andwhat I sent you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
That's not the tahoe, when this one's the uh little
truck.
What's the little truck?

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
colorado.
Okay, it's the car, it's builtoff the colorado frame yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
So anyway, I'm frame really damn yep, and the point
is it's very light.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
I'm pretty sure I've ridden in something like this
during a safari.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Right, that's exactly what I'm thinking Now I do want
the machine gun on the cupolaup there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
You don't want that.
Yeah, you mean a binary triggergun.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
No, Did you not see the news coming out of Kansas?

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
No, what's going on?
You forget that I was onvacation, not speaking English,
for two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
So there was a case that came out of Kansas.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
Buddy Kansas.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Was it Buddy Kansas?
See, you do know what it wasabout.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
No, I don't know, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Alright.
Well, the Kansas judge threwout I'm dropping it in the chat
the Kansas judge.
So the AP headline is Kansasjudge throws out machine gun
possession charge.
Cites second amendment yeah sowe now have a pretty good case

(01:23:28):
that is likely going to end upin the supreme court over like a
clock switch and everythingelse involved here.
So we've got some lower courtdecisions and you know he was
applying bruin.
This is like everything we'vealways said yeah, we already
have the hush act, that likethat is.
I think suppressors are goingto be legal here in just a few

(01:23:50):
months.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
How funny would it be and filatos would be legal, but
short barrel rifles yeah likewell we have a limitation, but
only on one thing in thiscountry.
That would be the length ofyour barrel.
Yeah, only if you have a stockyeah like.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
But the point is there's been a lot of really
good moves, a lot of good thingsgoing.
Uh.
It sucks that the supreme courtdidn't hear the uh, the assault
weapons ban case, but at thesame time they basically told
the lower court um, you know,you have all the tools to make
this decision and you shouldyeah, they're just.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
I wish there were less pussyfoots.
I mean mean, I think SenatorThomas' dissent was exactly
right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
I think Trump needs to stack the court and he needs
to say alright, clarence, who doyou want on here?

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
He's got less than two years to do it.
He just put a deadline onhimself with Musk, which was a
stupid thing to do but he did it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
I don't think so.
Alright well, when we have aDemocrat.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Senate, which was a stupid thing to do.
I don't think so.
I don't think so, all right.
Well, when we have a DemocratSenate and Democrat House, then
I guess I'll tell you.
I told you so.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Well, I don't think Musk is going to do that, though
.
He will why he's against thewoke mind virus dude and the
Democrats are nothing but wokemind virus people right now.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Here's how it's going to work.
He's going to work is.
He's going to basically startfinancially supporting and
promoting centrists from bothparties and they'll happen to be
a couple of democrats that arecentrist will end up being, uh,
funded by him.
That will swing the uh bothhouses over to the democrat side
.
It'll all be done in the nameof centrism.

(01:25:39):
We will see, oh, we will.
But remember, this is only aweek and a half old, not even
it's like a week old, and I just, I just don't think trump
realized the can of worms he wason getting into like this is so
stupid.
You take the richest dude whojust got you the presidency,

(01:25:59):
literally Like there's.
Trump would not have wonwithout Musk, and I don't care
what he said about you or whathe likes or doesn't like that
politicians do.
Who cares?
Trump could have said the samething.
He literally could have echoedwhat Musk said and said you know
, I really wish we could havecast a better bill.
I really do.
I want to sign the bill thatMusk would be happy with, but

(01:26:23):
this is the only bill we'regoing to get right now and this
is better than the alternative,so I'm going to sign this one.
That's all he had to do.
He didn't need to get into acontest of dick swinging with
Musk.
To you know, show that, hey,I'm the president of the free
world, I can do whatever I want.
It's like no dude.
You're going to get your wingsclipped for a stupid reason.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Yeah, we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
We will, I just you know.
I hope they figure out a way tomake up before that happens,
because if they don't but youalready saw musk started a new
party.
What do you mean?
Well, you didn't see yeah, hestarted a new political party
yeah, what's it called?

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
uh, america's party okay, that sounds a lot like the
reform party and Party and hebasically ran a poll on X.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
He says isn't it time , how do you not see this?
Isn't it time for a politicalparty to represent the 80% of us
that aren't on either extreme?
And he had 5 million people sayyes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Selfgovernmentus, what's that America's Party?
And he had 5 million people sayyes, selfgovernmentus, what's
that America's party?

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Oh, okay, there you go.
Yeah, so he had over 5 millionpeople in 24 hour period.
5 million people is about 10%of US voters.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
It's less than that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
We had 80 million people vote in the last election
, did we really?

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Yeah, I think it was 80 something.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Okay, so then it's like 8%.
The point is you try and get 8%of the population to agree on
something in one day, in 24 hourperiod.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
And, by the way, this has been the America's party
and selfgovernmentus has beenaround since like a while.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Maybe I've got the name wrong then, because he just
created like two days ago.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Yeah, it says Elon set to launch new America party.
New America party.
There you go.
That's what it is.
It's not America's party, itlaunch new America party.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
New America party.
There you go.
That's what it is.
It's not America's party, it'snew America party.
I don't have the word Americain there, but the point is it's
like no, this is not a joke,this is not a meme.
This is what you get when youfuck with Elon you get to lose
the next election.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Yeah, but he's.
He's talked about this, but hehasn't actually done it yet.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
There is no party called that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Well again, five million people on X said yes, we
need this, yeah that, or youknow, elon decided to Put his
finger on the scale to make sure.
Do you think Elon needs to dothat?
I do, man.
I don't know.
I just don't see this feud theway you do, and I think we've

(01:29:30):
spent a lot of time talkingabout it, but I don't know.
I still hope mommy and daddyare not fighting.
I hope they make up.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
Just stop texting both of you, just stop for like
a week.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Good luck, yeah, um um, oh my God, I'm sorry, I just
saw a joke.
Uh, hey Jean, hmm, did you know?
Uh, coffee's actually biblical.

(01:30:02):
Oh, yeah, yeah, hebrews itprobably is a brand called
hebrews coffee um, oh, yeah,anyway, sorry, sorry, I just had
to make the juke joke um, yeah,so, um, here's a a thought 70,

(01:30:26):
so 76.9 million, 76.9 millionpeople voted.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
You're right about that.
But the difference between thetrump versus oh, this is not the
right number.
Come on, bbc, give me thecorrect numbers there, let's try
that.
Come on, dude, this frickin'.

(01:30:58):
Do I go to wikipedia to getthis answer?
I'm trying to find out how manyvotes did trump win by?
Uh, probably a few hundredthousand yeah well, it's saying
268 000, but it's got to be morethan that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Yeah well, it's saying 268 000, but it's got to
be more than that, because hetalks about having a mandate.
Well, I mean, he won thepopular vote and the mandate is
that he won the popular vote andthe electoral college.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
Like he won both, that's considered I'm gonna ask
ai, because it always sells thetruth.
Oh my god, all right.
The total margin of victory fortrump was 760 000 votes.
760 000 votes is roughly eighttimes less than the number of
people that said that we need anew party okay you don't think?

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
I think that those people probably a bunch of them
do not vote.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
You think?

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
people in Mexico vote , are you?

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
insane.
This is the most voting type ofgroup of people of anywhere.
Oh please, X people absolutelyvote.
They live for politics, dude.
There's not much else going onon X, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
There's tons going on on X that there's very little.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
I keep posting pictures of bears and cats and
stuff and nobody likes them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
Uh well, right, but you know, you even see my cat
postings?

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
fuck, no, I don't follow you there.
You go there.
It proves my point.
So my again, I'm just sayingobviously this is like the worst
case scenario, but it is verybelievable statistically
speaking that musk could haveenough of an influence to make

(01:32:52):
the republicans lose the nextelection sure he does ross perot
his way right in there sure, ifhe does that, well, I mean he
can't because he can't run, butyeah but he doesn't have to run,
he just has to get people tovote for somebody else.
I don't think it's that hard.
Pick some bad republicans, runsome democrat centrists against

(01:33:17):
them and boom, you flip bothhouses.
Yeah.
Because that's whatbillionaires do.
They've got everything else.
They've had the money to buyeverything else.
The only thing left is to playgames with each other.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Okay, by the way, did you watch the new Clarkson's
Farm?

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Yeah, I did, it was great.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
I had to finish the last episode.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Oh, they opened the pub.
You haven't missed anything.
It was my on-the-plane viewing.
It was great.
I must admit, the one thingabout watching that show every
time I watch it is I get ahankering to go play Farm Sim

(01:34:06):
Okay, which I'm sure you'venever played.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
But Now, why would I play Farm Sim?

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
A lot of people enjoy Farm Sim that have done some
farming in real life.
It is probably the mostrealistic farming simulator game
ever created.
If you had some television.
It would be completelyrealistic.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
I just don't know why anyone would do that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Fair enough.
I mean American Truck Simdefinitely keeps a lot of the
crowd away, but sometimes youjust feel like farming.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
This is the gadget that I just bought.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
So I bought a 22 year old woman go down one gene oh
sorry, down one whoops.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
The truth comes out about ben and his erection.
That won't go down.
Well, I mean.
If I mean you gotta mentionthese things, dude, you bought a
woman, then the truth comes outabout Ben and his erection that
won't go down.
Well, I mean, if I mean, yougot to mention these things,
dude.
You bought a woman andtherefore obviously you got an
erection.
That's how it works.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
Dude, I was taking a drink and I almost lost it on my
monitor.
So, okay, no, there is so.
I don't even know how you saythis brand, but Arzopa.
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
don't even know how you say this brand, but um our
zopa, all right our zopaportable monitor 16 literally
what I'm looking at, uh of yourtext right now yeah, so it's.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Uh, it was on sale for 70 something dollars I think
I paid 129 for it yeah, yeah,it's pretty cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
So right now it's still on sale for 81.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
But how do you how?

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
it's a 16 inch monitor retail for 81, how I, I
don't know there's, there's nomoney there I don't know, but
it's I'll tell you I used ittoday it's nice, it's very
lightweight, yeah yeah, I've gotit.
I bought it as a a secondmonitor for my laptop yeah,

(01:36:00):
that's what I got it for forwork however, after I plugged it
in, I quickly realized I'mgonna keep this fucker for my
gaming machine and add a fourthmonitor.
Why?
Because I need more oh, my god,I need.
Well, I've got six screensplugged in right now, yeah, so
it's just barely enough foractivities.
Um, so you know?

(01:36:23):
I mean, look, I can write legalcontracts all day long on a
laptop screen, but I can't beplaying games on that well, I
mean so for me, just when I'mtraveling, if I've got a big
spreadsheet or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Having secondary monitors is nice.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
So the only downside is sometimes an upside on this
thing, which is it's not glossy,it's matte, right, which some
people really like.
I've always preferred glossymonitors.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
I don't know why?

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
but okay or deeper blacks.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Dude again, this is not a.
This is not a toy.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
This is not a toy, this is for work you keep saying
that, like it means something,I know to you, it doesn't but
I'll tell you what was shockingto me.
Okay, not only is this a supercheap 60 inch monitor uh-huh it
runs at 144 hertz yeah, yeah,like I was when I saw this I was

(01:37:20):
like holy shit, why is this socheap?

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
yeah, yeah, and then you can.
It'll be a usbc monitor or usbaacmi doesn't do whatever it'll
chew it all in.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
But, like my, my main monitor, which is 144 hertz,
was $1,000.
That's a little bigger thanthis, obviously, but this thing
is crazy cheap for what it does.
So you realize now that we'vetalked about it.
If the link to this isn'tincluded in the show notes, CSB
will comment about it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
Yes, csb, all right.
Well, let me grab you anaffiliate link.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
So, I can at least get something for that.
Well, I keep reminding you,because if I link it, it won't
have affiliates, it'll just havea normal link I gotta I gotta
be better about that anyway thisis the if you don't have.
This is the z1c 100 are uh ifyou don't have one, I'm pretty
sure that amazon has anextension that will take

(01:38:20):
whatever page you're looking atand turn it into a affiliate
link for you yeah, they, they doit in the app.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
Yeah, uh, but I don't have that extension installed
on this browser, so okay well,I'm going to do it from my phone
, all right, while I'm thinkingabout it, before we get off the
topic, otherwise it won't happen.
And then yeah, and then uh, csbwill be.
Uh, why are?

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
you still?
I mean it'll be a link to a usamazon site, then it's probably
not available in europe orsomething, so you know darren
darren, buy this monitor andship it to me.
Man that was.
I can't believe it wasn't CSBthe way you said.
That was just right.
So spot on Using Darren forsome utility.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Right?
Well, he dropped out of ourgroup today.
Who did, darren?

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
I'm going to re-invite him.
He's not allowed to drop out.
He created the damn thing.
He's not allowed to drop out.
He created the damn thing.
He's not allowed to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
Good luck.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
I left when I saw a message by somebody I didn't
know who that was.
I'm like, yeah, and I didn'tknow who the guy you invited was
either.
So what, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
Alrighty, oh cool, what else we got, gene.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
I think that's about it.
I can't think of anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
And you no, we're just a little short.
We're going to have to get backinto it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
I guess we just don't have two hours in us.
We're going to have to stop aminute and a half early.
My timer shows somethingdifferent, but okay your timer
is usually off, so that's allgood.
Yeah, it's all good, guys.
So we're back, at least for awhile here, until we one of us
has to do some traveling, sothanks to once again to the

(01:40:14):
eight people that send us somecashola.
Well, Well, not really cash,but you you pay the bill for
hosting the podcast and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
And I will say we're going to have to figure out.
Uh, either waiting until I getback or doing a podcast early,
not this coming weekend, not thenext weekend, but probably the
weekend after that, because theweek of the 23rd some point in
time, I'm going to Puerto Ricoand I'm going to stay over the

(01:40:43):
weekend so I can explore and dosomething.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Yeah, I got lots of friends there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
Who knows, maybe we'll be doing the podcast from
Puerto Rico, but I don't knowThat'd be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Got a lot more expenses than it used to be.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Yeah, well, the company I'm doing work for is
cheap, so so you're staying in acheap hotel?

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Oh fuck no.
Okay, you renting a B&B.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
No, I'm staying in a Marriott.
I'm staying in a nice Marriott.
Okay, good, they can be cheapall they want.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
I'm not doing that.
Good job, Hi guys with.

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