June 18, 2025 • 59 mins
What gives one country the right to tell another how to defend itself? This question forms the backdrop of a provocative discussion about the Israel-Iran conflict and America's role in foreign affairs. Rather than offering simple answers, we explore the complicated reality that nations should be allowed to make their own decisions – but with that freedom comes the responsibility to handle the consequences without external rescue.
The conversation shifts between global tensions and practical advice as we share travel insights for those heading to Cancun, Mexico. From swimming with dolphins to visiting Mayan ruins, these firsthand recommendations provide valuable guidance for families exploring international destinations. We also delve into the legal differences travelers should be aware of when crossing borders, particularly regarding firearms regulations and personal security measures that can save your vacation from disaster.
California politics becomes a focal point when examining how regional problems affect the nation as a whole. The discussion draws parallels between letting international conflicts resolve naturally and allowing states to face the consequences of their policy decisions. This perspective challenges conventional wisdom about intervention at both global and national levels, suggesting that sometimes the most helpful approach might be allowing natural consequences to unfold.
Digital security measures receive detailed attention, with practical insights about password management, multi-factor authentication, and protecting personal information. These recommendations reflect a broader philosophy about personal sovereignty and responsibility – themes that echo throughout the episode's examination of how individuals and nations navigate an increasingly complex world of overlapping jurisdictions and competing interests.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Howdy Ben?
How are you today?
Dude, rough morning.
We're recording this way laterthan we intended because of
miscommunication between you andI and, yeah, I was awoken this
morning due to the issue andthose who listened to the last
(00:20):
episode will know exactly whatI'm talking about which I
appreciate all the reach out Igot from that.
Seriously, several peoplereached out with like hey, have
you looked at this?
Have you looked at this?
A lot of it, I had, some of it.
I had not.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm glad you're enjoying getting the reach
around.
That's good that people arelistening.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Thanks, should we talk about politics.
Sure, did you see the 250thanniversary of the US Army?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I saw about an hour.
How much of it did you see?
It looked like an all-dayaffair.
It was an all-day affair.
I saw about an hour.
How much of it did you see it?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
looked like an all day affair.
Uh, it was an all day affair.
I saw probably three to four ofit.
Um, I watched Trump speech, Iwatched fan speech.
I like it really actuallyimpressed me and I I have it
actually fully downloaded on theflight tomorrow to watch.
(01:27):
Oh nice yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So what's the net of the Vance speech?
Any insights?
I would say of vance's was moreaggressive than trump's in a
(01:54):
way.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So vance was very much.
Hey, here we are putting ondisplay a little bit of our
technology.
This is what we're willing todisclose, which was significant.
I mean, they had not only youknow, the robot dogs and
everything else, but they hadunmanned m1 abrams.
They had, um, you know, quite abit there.
(02:18):
There was a lot in the air showthere was there.
There was tons there of justokay iran, okay china, you want
to fuck with us.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Here's what we got, or at least what we're willing
to show you yeah, I, I'd listento one of the generals speak
can't remember his name and thenI saw that people were uh
taking photos with differentweapons.
That was cool.
That would have been fun to do.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Well, and not only that, but, like the unsubscribed
podcast, got to go there and bethere for some of the
commissioning ceremonies.
They commissioned new officers,they did a ton of things there.
This was the left track toframe this as oh, this is Trump
wanting to embellish hisbirthday.
(03:05):
His birthday was nevermentioned by himself and it was
mentioned a few times by thecrowds and a couple of people,
but this was not Trump trying todo anything other than being
pretty fucking patriotic and,quite frankly, a really good
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investment in recruitment.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, I mean, I don't remember when did military
parades become not a thing,because they were definitely a
thing when I was young.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
The 90s.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So HW Bush kind of put the kibosh on some of that,
and then Clinton finished it offand I hit the mute button
accidentally there.
So sorry about that, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So Clinton got rid of it for you.
Okay, okay.
The only guy to attack Europesince world war two.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
HW Bush did some, but not as much Reagan had before.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Clinton basically did none.
That's what I'm saying.
It it it's kind of progression.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It was a draft dodger .
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Uh, clinton, yeah, it's kind of progression.
It was a draft dodger, clinton.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I don't know that to be true, but okay, I'm pretty
sure George H W was.
But I don't know about Clinton.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I'm pretty sure he had a flat foot or something.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Or a?
You know penis, flat penis orsomething.
That's right.
You know John C DeVorex?
Yeah, he received deferment dueto getting a Rhodes Scholarship
.
Yeah, and, devorex, the theoryis that he's the vasectomy
victim.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Mm-hmm, what's the point of having a vasectomy when
your wife is gay?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You don't end up with random pregnancies that then
threaten that dynamic.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
That's true.
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Anyway, man, I am hopping on a plane tomorrow and
I am going to Cancun.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Your room is all clean.
I checked in.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's a little nerve-wracking, to be honest
with you, given tensions wherethey're at right now
geopolitically I don't thinkthat's a problem.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Okay, no, no.
That whole area lives ontourism, the.
The last thing they want to dois fuck with tourism.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So it's going to be very pro-american out there, I
guarantee you right, but youknow I'm going to be going with
two little kids and everythingelse and it it's just, it's a
thing.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So as long as you don't come back with four little
kids, it's all good oh, Ishould be so lucky.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Um no, uh, we're going to do the you had
suggested the swimming with thedolphins, yep, and the aquarium
over there.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Right across the street from the hotel yep.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
No, it's about 20 minutes away, but it's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It's not 20 minutes.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It is.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, there is an aquarium that's literally across
the street from a hotel.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Right, okay, there's another aquarium 20 minutes away
okay, that has this diving withthe dolphins that um will allow
children under eight.
Their rule is basicallychildren under eight must be
accompanied by an adult rightthat makes sense so the one
across the street says they haveto be over, like 11 or
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something yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, got it so right.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
So you just have to find another aquarium.
There's actually, you could doit in the actual gulf too.
You don't have to do it in anaquarium.
There's plenty of places thathave dolphins that are just
netted up in a golf yeah, wellwe're.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
We're looking at a few experiences to do, we're
going to go to some ruins, we'regoing to play around a little
bit and we're just going toenjoy ourselves.
So that's the, that's the plan.
You're there a week.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Monday through Friday , yep.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Check in Monday.
Check out Friday.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
We'll do a show our normal time, or do you want to
take a few days off after that?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
No, tomorrow or next week normal time should do you
want to take a few days offafter that?
No, the tomorrow, our next weeknormal time should be fine okay
, I would have taken days off,but that's cool.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Uh, if you get a chance, go to uh isla mujeres.
Uh, it's.
It's a lot more rustic and lesstouristy and very cool out
there how far is it from cancun?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
it's.
It's a lot more rustic and lesstouristy, and very cool out
there.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
How far is it from Cancun?
It's the island across the uh.
You could see it right off yourbalcony If you have a ocean
side room.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I do.
Oh, there you go.
The reason why I ask is becauseyou know the reason why we're
not going to chesaniza, forexample is.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It's a three and a three hour drive and you know
kids, yeah, so you're going toto caldo I'm sorry what you're
going to caldo right what is tocaldo?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
to call that's the other pyramid thing um, we're
going to the mayan ruins thatare 40 minutes from our hotel
okay good, whatever those arecalled, I couldn't tell you 40,
40 minutes from your hotel isthe airport.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Now I think that the I'm pretty sure it's to call it.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's because chichen itza was the far away one, and
chichen itza is the big one,yeah, um, there are a couple
others that are closer oh, maybeit's tulum.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, it's probably.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Tulum is what you're going to well, whatever it is is
like 15, 20 minutes away fromthe hotel, and you know they
have fake ruins at the hotel.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I mean they're actual , real ruins.
They're just not interestingbut they're literally at the.
I guess it would be the northside of the beach on the hotel
side.
You can walk over there ifthey're real close to where the
sea turtles lay their eggs.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, maybe we'll just do that, but regardless,
it's supposed to rain prettymuch all week.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, but it doesn't rain all day there.
You get a rain for like half anhour and then it goes away and
then it comes back in theafternoon again.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's what everyone tells me.
I'm looking at my weather appsand my weather goes away and
then it comes back in theafternoon again.
That's what everyone tells me.
I'm looking at my weather appsand my weather apps disagree.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So I hope I've stayed at that literal hotel over the
last 20 years quite a bit, sothat's what the weather usually
looks like if it's raining.
And the good thing about therain is it's warm and for the
kids, they'll probably enjoy.
Enjoy being on the beach anddoing stuff even while it's
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raining.
Maybe it's just another waterpark activity as far as kids are
concerned.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well, I mean, we're right on the sand, right?
I mean we're oceanfront, it'sright there, we've got ocean
view.
It should be a fun trip.
So I've never been to Mexico.
I mean, we're ocean front, it'sright there, we've got ocean
view.
It should be a fun trip.
So I've never been to Mexico.
This is a new one for me.
It'll be fun, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Been all over.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Just never.
Mexico has never made the list.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
When I met you, the only country, you'd been to was
Canada.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Now you've been over.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Okay and no, I'm just saying you've done a lot of
travel yeah, yeah your share oftraveling.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Well, I mean.
So mexico will be my ninthcountry.
Yeah, it's not insignificantbut it's not, yeah.
So you and I broke a rule wherewe talked about some subjects
when I was taking Max to my dog,to my parents, just going on
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the strip, and we had a littlebit of a phone call that we
didn't record unless you did.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
What do you mean?
We broke some rules.
What rules?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
well rules that.
We talked about some things weshould be talking about on the
podcast that's a suggestion, uh,anyway, um, I'm gonna lay out
my position and then you canrebut and we can delve into it.
Yeah, uh, fuck israel, fuck,fuck Israel for what they're
doing.
We should drop a nuke on TelAviv and Tehran and say, okay,
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anyone else?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, that's craziness in every count
possible, obviously.
I I think that Israel alwayscan do whatever the fuck they
want.
It's none of our business.
And, at the same time, the flipside of that coin is it's none
of our business, which means wedon't pay for it, we don't get
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involved, we don't come to therescue, we don't do anything
because they do somethingproblem is, we are well, we
shouldn shouldn't be.
That's the solution there.
So I think, if you know, if wewere to get involved for
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whatever reason, it would be amistake.
I don't think we ought to begetting involved.
I don't think we ought to begetting involved.
But you can't both say thatIsrael shouldn't get anything
from the US and we should havenothing to do with them, and
then also tell Israel what to do.
Agreed, you've got to pick one.
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If you want us to be the bigbrother and tell them what to do
, then we've got to come totheir rescue when they fuck up.
If you don't want them to haveto come to their rescue, well
then they could do whatever thefuck they want.
It's their problem.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Which I kind of wonder if this isn't a
separation anxiety moment forIsrael.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
All right, I think it's just here's what you got to
remember.
The current president of Israel, the prime minister of Israel
Netanyahu, is an American.
He grew up in the US.
He speaks English as his firstlanguage.
He speaks English as his firstlanguage.
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He sees the US just as much ashis homeland as he does Israel,
and that's the way you can hearthat in his speech, like he
doesn't see them as separatecountries that make separate
decisions.
That's his problem.
That shouldn't be our problem.
So I have no issue with anyother country doing whatever the
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fuck they want.
They just got to remember thegolden rule, which is you know,
fuck around, find out, but,honestly, our focus and our
problems are here at home, andwe got plenty of them here.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And what do you think of us defending israel the way
we are?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
well, I don't think we ought to be doing jack shit
with israel.
I mean, we are we well?
We should well.
How many ways do you want me tosay we shouldn't be?
I've said this since day one.
I said this since a year ago.
When they got attacked inOctober, I said they could do
whatever they want.
If I lived there, I wouldprobably bomb the fuck out of
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Gaza, and they have been.
That's not our problem.
We're not the ones bombing themand we shouldn't be the ones
buying Gaza.
As much as it sounds cool tohave Trump, you know, take over
the beach and put in a Trumpcasino out there, that's just
(15:58):
funny.
It's a meme.
Realistically speaking, youknow, what Israel is doing with
Iran is not that different fromwhat Russia did with Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Oh, I totally disagree.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
They're attacking a foreign country, check that is
close to them, check that has athreat of getting nuclear
weapons that are aimed at themvery closely positioned to them.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So Ukraine never had that?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
No, I didn't say had, iran didn't have it either.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I'm saying very close to getting.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And Ukraine is probably about a year away from
getting US weapons, or at leastGerman weapons.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Iran has the capability of generating a nuke
tomorrow if they want to.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, I don't think they do I don't think they do.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Based off of.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Based off of the fact that we keep a tighter eye on
Iran than just about any othercountry in the Middle East.
Like we have more satellitetime over Iran, we have more
humans in Iran, we have a lot ofpeople watching Iran, and if
Iran got to the point where theycan make a nuke tomorrow, us
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would be the one doing somethingabout it, not Israel.
The fact that Israel is doingthis leads me to think that
they're actually further awaythan that.
Why?
Well, because Israel is goingto do something knee-jerk us is
going to wait till the lastminute and okay when your
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rationale there is well, because, first of all, middle eastern
people in general are moreknee-jerk and, like it or not,
the israel is a middle easterncountry.
you mean they're semitic?
You mean they're Semitic?
No, I mean they're MiddleEastern.
They've got that attitude.
Not at all.
I mean what I say, dude.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You just don't want to admit when you say I'm
anti-Semitic, that I'm anti theentire fucking region, but it's
okay.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, if you want to create new definitions for words
like man and woman, I, I, I'mnot really into that I prefer to
have words actually mean whatthey mean.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Actually I'm going back around for 100 years.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I'm going back on the original definition, but it's
okay, but the originaldefinition, which has been
around for 100 years, onlyincludes jews.
But the original definition,which has been around for 100
years, only includes Jews.
Okay, there is no otherdefinition, then why?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
was it ever?
Why wasn't it anti-Jewish oranti-Zionist or anti-anything
related to the religion, versusthe people that were in that
area?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's literally why it's anti-Semitic.
That's why it's called that.
It's because it refers tonon-Presbyterian Jews.
The Semitic people does not justinclude Jews, never has the
word anti-Semitic, which wascreated in Europe 100 years ago,
is anti-Semitic because theywanted to include non-religious
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Jews, and the word Jew first andforemost implies a religion.
However, if you look at thediscrimination against Jews,
those discriminating againstJews, whether in Germany or
elsewhere, don't really care,and never have cared, whether
it's a practicing Jew or anatheist Jew who runs a store and
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has nothing to do with religion.
If you look Jewish, they'regonna dislike you.
That's why the word Semitic wasused.
It's basically saying it'sdiscrimination against those
guys that you draw with hookednoses ironically, neither of us
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have one, but okay yeah, well,some of us are more jewish than
others.
But, dude, by the way you know,you do know I'm like far from a
pure jew.
Sure, we, we talk about thatand it's funny and everything,
but I'm mostly russian oh well,you know, lots of russians were
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jewish yeah, but geneticallyI've seen fiddler on the roof.
Dude, it's okay I, yes, I havetoo I uh, if I were rich man I
actually even know where thevillage is.
That, uh, that we were kickedout of back in them days, back
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in the late 1800s.
My dad looked it up on the mapwhile I was up there.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So where did your family fall on the Bolshevik
Revolution?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Oh, solidly pro, Really.
Oh yeah, jews are always forthe communism.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Agreed.
I mean you look at the leadersof the Bolsheviks and some Jews,
my grandparents- met at acommunist party meeting.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Okay, so that should tell you something.
How do you feel about that?
It's par for the course.
It's kind of what I wouldexpect them to.
It's very stereotypical.
It's very stereotypical.
And if I tell you what?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
their jobs.
Are you're going to think it'seven more stereotypical?
Okay, I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So my grandfather was an economist who worked at a
bank and my grandmother was acollege teacher.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I don't know what subject she taught, so I'm not
sure exactly.
Okay, so they were literallyanti-Tsarist.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
They were solidly middle class to upper middle
class.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Right, so they were well within that yeah which is
very stereotypical I have enoughfree time to say fuck the czar.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, I think, I think what it is is, um, you
know, we could spend the wholeshow talking about what it is in
the background of Jewishculture that makes people lean
left.
Uh, I have a lot of theories onthat count, although I will say
in the U?
S that is.
Although I will say in the USthat is solidly changing thanks
to all the from the river to thesea chanting going on.
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There's more and more Jewsjoining the right now.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well, okay, if we're talking about LA and everything
else, yeah, it has goneliterally to the ultimate end of
saying from the river, meaningthe Mississippi in the US
context to the Pacific is Mexico.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, pretty much that's what I've been hearing.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
No, no, uh.
Mexico occupied a portion ofcalifornia for a period of time
of about 20 years.
We've had it for over 200 umfuck you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
No, yeah, you may want to refrain from saying shit
like that, as you're going tobe in mexico tomorrow but, I'm
okay.
Well, you were the one who wasworried about geopolitics.
I'm saying don't bring thegeopolitics.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Dude, you're not going to post this till?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I'm already on my way back I will make sure I posted
before that all right, cool.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Anyway, I already know where the embassy is and I
know csv is going to ask.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
So I'm going to include the geo coordinates of
the hotel uh-huh okay no, sojust because csv is going gonna
ask, I know so quick travel tipum whenever you're flying.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
One things I always do is I take a copy of the
passport and I put it in theliner of the bag.
Um, the reason why I put it inthe liner of the bag is it's a
piece of paper.
You know, a single piece ofpaper isn't going to be easily
noticed there, yep, but it's aquick way to say that is my bag,
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this is mine.
Well, someone can't strip offother identification.
They can't do shit withoutunpacking the bag entirely.
They can't get to the liner.
They can't do that um, beyondthat um, if your passports ever
lost or stolen while you'reoverseas and you go to a us
consulate, and if you have acopy of your passport, it makes
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it a much quicker easier yeah,they can look everything up.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, I'm not too worried about people seeing my
bag.
Okay, have you had your bag?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
stolen.
Um, domestically, I've had mybag lost, yes, lost, or stolen.
Lost, I I'll say lost becauseit came pre-stolen, but there
was enough valuables in therethat either way, it doesn't
matter.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah well, my initials are embroidered on my
bags, so it's pretty hard toconfuse them oh well, my bags
have very unique tagging andeverything else.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Uh, thanks to some of the 3d printers from the no
genocide.
Um, like I, I, I know my bag.
I'm not gonna confuse my bagfor someone else.
It's more about somebody elseconfusing it for theirs, so you
want to make sure it doesn'tlook like theirs oh yeah, like I
have my status tag on therewith United, I have another
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custom name tag, externallyvisible I.
It is clear this is not theirbag.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I have another custom name tag externally visible.
It is clear this is not theirbag.
Yeah, yeah, I always thoughtit'd be a good idea to have like
a bumper sticker type thing onyour bag that just says this is
not your bag, because obviouslythe only guy that's going to
know it's theirs is the guy whoput that on Sure?
Yeah, now, when I was shippingthings that somebody could rip
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off, I actually had a hard-sidedcase that was lockable and then
I put a Red Cross symbol on it,a really big format, so it
looked like it was medicalequipment and people aren't
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going to steal that unlessthey're total assholes.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Well, the only time I really fly with a checked bag
is when I'm carrying a gun.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, that's usually when I carry it in there is when
I'm carrying a gun.
Yeah, well, that's usually whenI carry it in there.
But yeah, you're obviously nottaking a gun to Mexico.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So no, the rules there are fucking insane, Like a
.380 is the top caliber for.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, I remember going to Mexico and like being
able to buy magazines supercheap for large size.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
No, you can't do shit there, not anymore.
So in your home you're allowed,because it's in the Mexican
Constitution.
Like I went down this rabbithole, you're allowed a pistol
for defense up to a 380.
Yep, which is an anemiccartridge.
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But regardless of that, okay,fine, um.
So I can't take my nightmare umin exporting a firearm and then
re-importing it is such a painin the ass, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I know a few guys that have gotten dove hunting
down there, I believe.
I think it's doves.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
That's mainly Argentina.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
What else could it be in Mexico?
Ducks, maybe Ducks, maybe Ducks.
Sure, yeah, could be ducks.
I don't know, but it wassomething that was Mexican, and
even just bringing 12-gauge wasa pain in the butt.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Oh yeah, you literally have to export the
firearm.
So you have to go through allthe US procedures, Then you have
to import the firearm.
You have to go through all theUS procedures, then you have to
import the firearm.
You have to go through all theMexican procedures, then you
have to export the firearm.
Go through all the Mexicanprocedures, import the firearm.
There's just no way you'retaking something there.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, and I don't know what the rules are in
renting guns out there either.
Yeah, I don't know what therules are in renting guns out
there either pretty liberal.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Actually are they.
Yeah, so if you're a touristand you have range time or
you've got a hunt scheduled, youcan rent a gun pretty easy.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh, okay, good, good.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So question.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Go on mute again.
No, I'm here.
Okay, question what?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Where do you fall on this LA riot stuff?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Oh, I've said it before I think we should just
let it burn.
I don't believe we ought to bedoing anything at all.
It's California's problem, justlike Israel.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
But that problem affects the rest of the nation.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Does it though.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, electoral votes alone.
Yes, it absolutely does.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Well, we can just keep arresting their congress
critters then.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Okay, so Newsom 2026?
.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing to stop somebody from
running right as long as theywere born in this country.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Actually, the only prohibition on a foreign
national holding office ispresident.
Other than that, you can be anaturalized citizen and run for
any office you want.
Yeah, I've done that.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
But in Newsom's case he can run.
But I don't think after what'shappened in California he can
run.
But I don't think after what'shappened in California he's
going to have any chance to help.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I think he's going to run for Senate.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So is Nancy going to be done then?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
No, no, no.
What's her face's successor?
The woman who couldn't rememberwhere she was and everything
else.
Oh, the black chick, no chick,no, no, she was white.
Um, now I'm being equallyableist and can't remember.
Uh, but uh, dementia patient,obvious dementia patient
(31:50):
relative relativeative dementiaor full-on dementia Full-on.
Like, did not understand whyshe was on the floor of a.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Really, I don't know who that is.
I must have missed that bit, ohmy.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
God, look up the last two California senators.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
California Senators oh my god, I thought she was
dead.
She is.
That's the point.
This is the guy that replacedher.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
That Newsom would be going up against that he yeah,
yeah, yeah, because I thoughtshe had been replaced and you're
like he's gonna go for her.
Okay, so he would run againstthe guy.
That's got it right now,correct, okay.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Okay, okay, okay.
Did he appointed to thatposition?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Sure, sure, that's.
That'd be a dick move, but okay.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Oh, total dick move.
Yeah, but um.
But have you seen him?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Oh, nisam.
Yes, yes, I've seen Nisam.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
What part of him doesn't scream dick?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well, fair enough.
I mean, his face does kind oflook like it.
Hmm, yeah, I don't know, manit's.
I thought he was gonna runinstead of laughing black girl,
uh.
But he didn't, and probablybecause he knew running against
(33:30):
trump would be so it was riggedyeah, so yeah, I don't know, man
I, what he's got going for himis he's got the politician look
right.
He is what he's kind of got,that kind of late 40s gray hair,
(33:51):
you know, nice looking man kindof thing going on.
But he's run California to theground.
They had a surplus when he camein Yep and it's just a total
dumpster fire and that's why Isay let it burn.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So, but this is where him moving to a senator is to
his advantage.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Well, because the is to his advantage, because the
next governor has.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
He's only going to do things that are going to be
advantageous.
The next governor has to comein and deal with reality.
He, as a senator, doesn'tnecessarily have to deal with
that.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Well, he wouldn't have to deal with it at all,
other than getting some pork forCalifornia Sure, but that's for
California Sure.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
But that's my point.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Okay, well, I don't disagree with that at all.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I mean do you think he's going to give up politics
and say no, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
This is what I've done.
Of course, he's not going togive up politics.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Then he's going to be the next senator from
California, mark Rauerts.
He's going to be the nextsenator from California.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Mark my words.
Yeah, but it's more likely thatthan running for president.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
He can't run for president right now.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
No, yeah, I don't think so either anyway, um what
else did you happen to watch?
Speaker 1 (35:18):
you're usually the one sending me all this stuff um
sure I've been prepping forthis trip so yeah, you haven't
been watching as much dude I Ihave had to deal with so much
big shit and everything elseover the last week, getting
ahead of stuff that I wouldnormally do next week, and it's
been crazy.
We've got this bid open withScottish water.
(35:41):
It's like 80 million pounds.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Oh well, don't talk about contracts on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Well, it's a multi award.
Everything I'm saying is publicknowledge.
Either way like seriously, an80 million pound multi
awardaward?
Hell, if we get a fifth of that, jesus Christ, cool, right,
yeah, no shit.
So there's been a lot going on,so there's been getting ahead
(36:08):
of these issues that are comingup.
I'm still taking my laptop withme for work.
You gotta do that.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I don't want to, and you know the messaging to my
staff has been if you need me,call me, yeah, but please know
that you actually really need meyeah, I usually just tell
people that you know I'll have alaptop and phone with me, but
I'm going to be in an area withreally shitty Wi-Fi and mediocre
(36:39):
phone coverage, so you may getme or you may not get me until
12 hours later.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, what I've told people is everything is muted
and I will reply to you at mywill muted and I will reply to
you at my will.
So if I get bored and I open upmy laptop and they check my
email yeah, well, otherwise uh,if it's an emergency, text me
yeah yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
You guys slack at all , or that I'm sorry you guys use
, use Slack.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
No Teams, teams, that's too bad.
Corporate America, everybodyuses Teams.
Yeah, I used.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Slack when I was at.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Dragos.
But before that and since then,no one fucking uses Slack.
Everyone always bitches aboutTeams, right, but Teams
accomplishes the same mission asSlack and Zoom combined Right.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Well, slack actually has always had video, it's just
never been publicized becausethey don't really want you using
it.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
It fucking sucks.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
It's not bad, I've used it.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Okay, you haven't used it with a large group of
people people.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I've used it with 45 people.
How many people do you want?
If you pulled that off, thengreat congratulations well more
than I would force everyone onslack after that work.
Fine.
The I like about Slack but it'sfor the paid version only is
just they never delete anything.
(38:17):
So anything you send to anybody, just like Gmail, it's just
there for eternity.
You can always look things up.
It's got a really goodsearching capability and blank
mail material.
Yeah, which is literally theopposite policy of what I use
for personal stuff on Signal,which has a 30-day burn.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Depending on your settings.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Not, depending on my settings.
Everything's 30 days.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
No, no, no.
So the default settings iseverything is permanent.
So you have to go in and say Iwant to kill this.
My settings is everything's on30%, oh I agree with you, dude,
like my LastPass account is agreat example of sitting there
and saying hey, I'm going tocustomize the shit out of this,
I'm going to change the numberof hashes.
(39:08):
That has been done from mymaster password, which is
already super strong.
I'm going to require this, thatand the other.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
His password is called super strong Go ahead,
keep going.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, sure you go.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Is that with a dollar sign on there?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yep Two of them.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Anyway, no one would guess that yeah no.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
My password is actually 36 characters long,
with 16 characters of trueentropy mixed in.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
So good luck, but you don't know what it is, then I'm
sorry.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
You don't know your password, then I do.
That's my master password.
I know it.
You know it for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yes, okay All right, anyway.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Plus you have multi-factor, with YubiKeys
involved and physical tokens andthings like that, like you know
, I do a few things, okay.
My hash of my vault is thenon-standard algorithm, and that
is based off of preventingrainbow attacks, right, Mm-hmm.
(40:18):
So yeah, there's that.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, I remember when the Microsoft Rainbow Table
came out For Landman yeah, forLandman.
I remember everybody'sdownloading that thing.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
For Landman, yeah, For Landman.
I remember everybody'sdownloading that thing.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Well, landman's really easy, because Landman
actually breaks up the past.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah, two, eight characters yeah, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no.
Three, one, four.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
That doesn't sound right, okay it is.
That doesn't sound right, okayit is.
Yeah, because what I rememberis it was an unsalted double
eight character that splits itinto eight characters and then
no.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
No, so that's if you use over a 12-character password
, Right, but if you use anythingelse, it's 314.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Oh well, who would use an under eight character?
Speaker 1 (41:18):
password.
That's insane.
That's the vast majority ofpeople through the history of
this algorithm.
But the point is it is justit's not solving a 12 character
password, it's solving afraction.
Yeah, a fraction, a fraction.
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Well, the Rainbow Table, I remember, fit on one CD
.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
That's how old this is Exactly, and the fact of the
matter is everything I run intotoday.
Landman is a fucking validattack in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
It's scary.
Sorry, you have to take a ways.
It's scary.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Sorry, you have to take a drink Of Tea.
I'm drinking tea, man, I don'tdrink anything else.
Why would you be?
Speaker 1 (42:04):
drinking tea at 11 o'clock at night.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Oh, caffeine, it's fine, I drank tea morning to
night.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I did not have caffeine today the way I
normally did, okay, because Iwoke up, I had the issue and I
took three Sudafed.
Now, this is 12-hour Sudafed,this is extra strength.
That didn't do it, so I tookthe emergency prescription.
I was so wired and jitterythroughout the entire fucking
(42:40):
day I drank like a quarter of acup of coffee and that was it.
Like I was shaking all daytoday, really Okay.
My heart rate did not dropbelow 200 for the vast majority
of the day.
Nice Dude, I should have beenthe German soldier, right, I was
(43:03):
so fucking hopped up on shit.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Or an American one.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Okay, fine, air Force , yeah.
But my point is I took so manyamphetamines and shit to just
deal with this.
It was crazy Like my hands wereliterally shaking.
My hands don't ever shake.
I can drink a full bottle ofcoffee and do whatever.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Well, that's just from not being used to it After
a while you get used to it.
They don't shake anymore.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I don't want to get used to it, dude, I.
After a while you get used toit.
They don't shake anymore.
I don't want to get used to it,dude.
I have to find the underlyingcause here.
I did that for about a year.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
And after about three months you're good.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
I don't know that I'll make it to the three-month
mark if this happens every day.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
You may not have a choice.
The fuck I don't but okay, yeah, well, either way I believe in
human sovereignty, so there'sthat.
Yeah, belief is a good thing,so, um what, uh?
(44:10):
What do you think is going onin china though?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
What do you think is?
Speaker 2 (44:15):
going on in China now as far as Well.
I mean, they're in an awesomeposition right now, especially
if the whole Iran war turns intosomething big.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
But they're not.
We just reached a trade.
Okay, they'd have to back outof the trade deal.
They'd have to do a lot ofthings.
Actually, I think we just madeChina our bitch with the new
trade deal.
In what way our tariffs areover 10, there's are under five.
They're agreeing to importthings directly from us that
(44:47):
they haven't ever done in theway of energy resources, food
and technology and a few otherthings.
They've agreed to respectintellectual property rights.
Yeah, that's just.
Yeah, yeah, okay, cool, yeah, Idon't like.
Anyone who's worked in chinaknows that's bullshit, it's just
not gonna happen?
(45:08):
Culturally fine, gotcha, yeah,but beyond that um like, beyond
iran's retaliation on israel Isee china is pretty anemic at
this point, don't you?
No, why not?
Speaker 2 (45:31):
because they haven't had to spend any money on
anything.
They're just watching the worldaround them burn and they're
getting all kinds of info, alongwith everybody else, on both
Russian weapons and US weaponsin Ukraine.
If Iran turns into something,they'll get even more data on
(45:53):
that.
You know everyone who's notinvolved in the war is still
using these wars to gather data.
And it's and, and it's not likeanyone's only getting data from
one side.
All our friends are just asinterested to see how our
weapons work when it comes pushcomes to shove.
So yeah, it's um.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah it's Because all our friends have purchased our
weapons.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, exactly, and they want to know whether they
wasted their money or not.
And lately it's been like shitshould have bought DJI drones
instead.
But yeah, I think they're.
I think they're in a prettygood position.
You know, the 5%, 10% thing Imean compared to what the
threats were, come on, that'snot even close.
(46:38):
It's whatever them.
Buying American goods is verygood for us, because we need
more locations buying goods fromus, so that's definitely a good
thing.
Goods from us, uh, so that'sdefinitely a good thing.
(47:06):
As far as um, what else?
Uh, as far as them, you know,yes, not agreeing to to certain
things.
Look, china has always playedthe long game.
This has always been my point.
China plays the long game.
So, whatever they do in theshort term, I think the US just
cornered Iran what the US justcornered Iran in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
They may be a BRICS member or whatever else, and
we'll see how much that holds up.
But the reality is israel did agood job of a very surgical
strike on hitting certain peopleand places and israel can say
(47:51):
oh, the us knew.
The us can say oh, and the USknew.
The US can say oh and no, hedidn't.
It doesn't matter, the damageis done.
And where does that go?
What do we do with that?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Well, if that's all it is, then there's nothing for
us to do, which would be great.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
There's a lot for us to do at the negotiating table,
but that's neither here northere.
I don't think Tel Aviv's goingto see relief in the foreseeable
future.
They're going to continuouslybe being bombed.
It could be Even while the USsits across the negotiating
(48:27):
table from Iran.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, but you know that's part of the deal if you
live there.
There's nobody that's alive,that's there right now.
That moved there with theexpectation of peace.
All those people are dead.
Everybody else, either beenborn after that or moved after
(48:54):
that, already knows that it's avery volatile situation there.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
So Fair enough, I don't see a problem.
Any other topics you want tocover?
What have you been watching?
I?
Speaker 2 (49:08):
think.
Well, I've watched a few gunthings here and there there
seems to be something that'sinteresting I have not verified
this so I don't know if it'sactually in the bill has
provisions that grant thepresident, through some very
(49:36):
interesting convoluted kind ofthings, effectively a workaround
.
The court system except for theSupreme Court.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
So in what way do you think these are diluted
practices?
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I don't mean diluted, I mean like there's some hoop
jumping going on.
But effectively, what it saysis that, through legislative
actions, topics of nationalsecurity are excluded from any
(50:22):
type of enforcement activitiesby the courts.
And you can say, well, how canthe legislature do this?
Well, very easily by notproviding any funding for these
activities, effectively by name,excluding the payment of any
civil servants for activitiesthat contradict the sovereignty
(50:46):
of the president on nationalsecurity topics.
So, allegedly, that's in thebig beautiful bill bill, which
is probably a reason trumpreally wants to have this pass.
And elon musk doesn't reallycare, or well, he does care, he
just would rather not be full ofpork.
But, um, if that is in fact thecase, that is a big old Trump
(51:11):
card and that's pun intended.
But also without pun, becauseit effectively says hey, all
these judges around the countrythat have been putting in a
federal, um, uh, what do youcall it?
Uh, what do you call it?
(51:34):
What do I think of Not stays?
They're putting in federal,basically bans on shit.
Right, use the letter Hello.
(51:56):
Anyway, I guess Ben's got arestroom break or something.
So, effectively, if this isactually in the legislation,
which is what I've seen on aYouTube channel, then Trump will
have an awesome little middlefinger for all the lower courts.
This explicitly excludes theSupreme Court, because
(52:20):
essentially that's the only waythat it gets around.
The funding issue is with theSupreme Court Essentially saying
that any court activity whichinvolves a case about national
security is an unpaid activity,which means no one's getting
(52:45):
paid.
The judge isn't going to getpaid for the hours spent on that
.
The employees sitting in thecourtroom are not getting paid
for any time.
While that discussion is goingon, the enforcement of those
rulings cannot happen becausethere's nobody getting paid to
enforce anything that would comeout of that.
(53:08):
So they've effectively defundedthose types of activities from
the courts.
Let's see if Ben's back, benyou back.
Okay, kids, this is future mecoming back on.
(53:30):
I called Ben to find out whatthe heck happened if his
computer died or he went to abathroom break or what, and
turns out that's even funnier.
Uh, well, it's not funny forhim.
He fell asleep.
Now people have said thatlistening to my voice is very
relaxing.
I've certainly heard a fewpeople, csb included, that have
said that they fell asleep whilelistening to the podcast more
(53:52):
than once.
So I can't blame ben for doingthat, um, my voice has that
effect on people.
It's so mellow and soothing.
But, um, I know he's been tired.
He's got this big trip thatwe've talked about coming up and
he hasn't been getting a wholelot of sleep in the interim as
well.
So, um, I told him that it'sfine if he just goes and sleeps.
(54:15):
So we're gonna have the shortepisode.
As you can tell, it's about anhour, a little less than that.
Uh, all said and done, but, um,it'll have to do for this week.
And then, uh, if ben gets backon time and he's not too sleepy
and I I'd like, if I was him, Iwould take a few extra days and
then put out a late episode.
But he says let's go ahead anddo it on time.
(54:37):
So I guess we'll be back inabout a week with the next
episode.
Meanwhile, check out the nextepisode of unrelentingshow, the
other podcast that I do.
We'll see you there.
Howdy Ben?
How are you today?
Dude, rough morning.
We're recording this way laterthan we intended because of
miscommunication between you andI and, yeah, I was awoken this
morning due to the issue andthose who listened to the last
(00:20):
episode will know exactly whatI'm talking about which I
appreciate all the reach out Igot from that.
Seriously, several peoplereached out with like hey, have
you looked at this?
Have you looked at this?
A lot of it, I had, some of it.
I had not.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm glad you're enjoying getting the reach
around.
That's good that people arelistening.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Thanks, should we talk about politics.
Sure, did you see the 250thanniversary of the US Army?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I saw about an hour.
How much of it did you see?
It looked like an all-dayaffair.
It was an all-day affair.
I saw about an hour.
How much of it did you see it?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
looked like an all day affair.
Uh, it was an all day affair.
I saw probably three to four ofit.
Um, I watched Trump speech, Iwatched fan speech.
I like it really actuallyimpressed me and I I have it
actually fully downloaded on theflight tomorrow to watch.
(01:27):
Oh nice yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So what's the net of the Vance speech?
Any insights?
I would say of vance's was moreaggressive than trump's in a
(01:54):
way.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So vance was very much.
Hey, here we are putting ondisplay a little bit of our
technology.
This is what we're willing todisclose, which was significant.
I mean, they had not only youknow, the robot dogs and
everything else, but they hadunmanned m1 abrams.
They had, um, you know, quite abit there.
(02:18):
There was a lot in the air showthere was there.
There was tons there of justokay iran, okay china, you want
to fuck with us.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Here's what we got, or at least what we're willing
to show you yeah, I, I'd listento one of the generals speak
can't remember his name and thenI saw that people were uh
taking photos with differentweapons.
That was cool.
That would have been fun to do.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Well, and not only that, but, like the unsubscribed
podcast, got to go there and bethere for some of the
commissioning ceremonies.
They commissioned new officers,they did a ton of things there.
This was the left track toframe this as oh, this is Trump
wanting to embellish hisbirthday.
(03:05):
His birthday was nevermentioned by himself and it was
mentioned a few times by thecrowds and a couple of people,
but this was not Trump trying todo anything other than being
pretty fucking patriotic and,quite frankly, a really good
(03:27):
investment in recruitment.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, I mean, I don't remember when did military
parades become not a thing,because they were definitely a
thing when I was young.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
The 90s.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
So HW Bush kind of put the kibosh on some of that,
and then Clinton finished it offand I hit the mute button
accidentally there.
So sorry about that, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So Clinton got rid of it for you.
Okay, okay.
The only guy to attack Europesince world war two.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
HW Bush did some, but not as much Reagan had before.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Clinton basically did none.
That's what I'm saying.
It it it's kind of progression.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It was a draft dodger .
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Uh, clinton, yeah, it's kind of progression.
It was a draft dodger, clinton.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I don't know that to be true, but okay, I'm pretty
sure George H W was.
But I don't know about Clinton.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I'm pretty sure he had a flat foot or something.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Or a?
You know penis, flat penis orsomething.
That's right.
You know John C DeVorex?
Yeah, he received deferment dueto getting a Rhodes Scholarship
.
Yeah, and, devorex, the theoryis that he's the vasectomy
victim.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Mm-hmm, what's the point of having a vasectomy when
your wife is gay?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You don't end up with random pregnancies that then
threaten that dynamic.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
That's true.
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Anyway, man, I am hopping on a plane tomorrow and
I am going to Cancun.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Your room is all clean.
I checked in.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's a little nerve-wracking, to be honest
with you, given tensions wherethey're at right now
geopolitically I don't thinkthat's a problem.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Okay, no, no.
That whole area lives ontourism, the.
The last thing they want to dois fuck with tourism.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So it's going to be very pro-american out there, I
guarantee you right, but youknow I'm going to be going with
two little kids and everythingelse and it it's just, it's a
thing.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So as long as you don't come back with four little
kids, it's all good oh, Ishould be so lucky.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Um no, uh, we're going to do the you had
suggested the swimming with thedolphins, yep, and the aquarium
over there.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Right across the street from the hotel yep.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
No, it's about 20 minutes away, but it's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It's not 20 minutes.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It is.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, there is an aquarium that's literally across
the street from a hotel.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Right, okay, there's another aquarium 20 minutes away
okay, that has this diving withthe dolphins that um will allow
children under eight.
Their rule is basicallychildren under eight must be
accompanied by an adult rightthat makes sense so the one
across the street says they haveto be over, like 11 or
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something yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, got it so right.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
So you just have to find another aquarium.
There's actually, you could doit in the actual gulf too.
You don't have to do it in anaquarium.
There's plenty of places thathave dolphins that are just
netted up in a golf yeah, wellwe're.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
We're looking at a few experiences to do, we're
going to go to some ruins, we'regoing to play around a little
bit and we're just going toenjoy ourselves.
So that's the, that's the plan.
You're there a week.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Monday through Friday , yep.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Check in Monday.
Check out Friday.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
We'll do a show our normal time, or do you want to
take a few days off after that?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
No, tomorrow or next week normal time should do you
want to take a few days offafter that?
No, the tomorrow, our next weeknormal time should be fine okay
, I would have taken days off,but that's cool.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Uh, if you get a chance, go to uh isla mujeres.
Uh, it's.
It's a lot more rustic and lesstouristy and very cool out
there how far is it from cancun?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
it's.
It's a lot more rustic and lesstouristy, and very cool out
there.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
How far is it from Cancun?
It's the island across the uh.
You could see it right off yourbalcony If you have a ocean
side room.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I do.
Oh, there you go.
The reason why I ask is becauseyou know the reason why we're
not going to chesaniza, forexample is.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It's a three and a three hour drive and you know
kids, yeah, so you're going toto caldo I'm sorry what you're
going to caldo right what is tocaldo?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
to call that's the other pyramid thing um, we're
going to the mayan ruins thatare 40 minutes from our hotel
okay good, whatever those arecalled, I couldn't tell you 40,
40 minutes from your hotel isthe airport.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Now I think that the I'm pretty sure it's to call it.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's because chichen itza was the far away one, and
chichen itza is the big one,yeah, um, there are a couple
others that are closer oh, maybeit's tulum.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, it's probably.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Tulum is what you're going to well, whatever it is is
like 15, 20 minutes away fromthe hotel, and you know they
have fake ruins at the hotel.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I mean they're actual , real ruins.
They're just not interestingbut they're literally at the.
I guess it would be the northside of the beach on the hotel
side.
You can walk over there ifthey're real close to where the
sea turtles lay their eggs.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well, maybe we'll just do that, but regardless,
it's supposed to rain prettymuch all week.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, but it doesn't rain all day there.
You get a rain for like half anhour and then it goes away and
then it comes back in theafternoon again.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's what everyone tells me.
I'm looking at my weather appsand my weather goes away and
then it comes back in theafternoon again.
That's what everyone tells me.
I'm looking at my weather appsand my weather apps disagree.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So I hope I've stayed at that literal hotel over the
last 20 years quite a bit, sothat's what the weather usually
looks like if it's raining.
And the good thing about therain is it's warm and for the
kids, they'll probably enjoy.
Enjoy being on the beach anddoing stuff even while it's
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raining.
Maybe it's just another waterpark activity as far as kids are
concerned.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well, I mean, we're right on the sand, right?
I mean we're oceanfront, it'sright there, we've got ocean
view.
It should be a fun trip.
So I've never been to Mexico.
I mean, we're ocean front, it'sright there, we've got ocean
view.
It should be a fun trip.
So I've never been to Mexico.
This is a new one for me.
It'll be fun, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Been all over.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Just never.
Mexico has never made the list.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
When I met you, the only country, you'd been to was
Canada.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Now you've been over.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Okay and no, I'm just saying you've done a lot of
travel yeah, yeah your share oftraveling.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Well, I mean.
So mexico will be my ninthcountry.
Yeah, it's not insignificantbut it's not, yeah.
So you and I broke a rule wherewe talked about some subjects
when I was taking Max to my dog,to my parents, just going on
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the strip, and we had a littlebit of a phone call that we
didn't record unless you did.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
What do you mean?
We broke some rules.
What rules?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
well rules that.
We talked about some things weshould be talking about on the
podcast that's a suggestion, uh,anyway, um, I'm gonna lay out
my position and then you canrebut and we can delve into it.
Yeah, uh, fuck israel, fuck,fuck Israel for what they're
doing.
We should drop a nuke on TelAviv and Tehran and say, okay,
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anyone else?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, that's craziness in every count
possible, obviously.
I I think that Israel alwayscan do whatever the fuck they
want.
It's none of our business.
And, at the same time, the flipside of that coin is it's none
of our business, which means wedon't pay for it, we don't get
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involved, we don't come to therescue, we don't do anything
because they do somethingproblem is, we are well, we
shouldn shouldn't be.
That's the solution there.
So I think, if you know, if wewere to get involved for
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whatever reason, it would be amistake.
I don't think we ought to begetting involved.
I don't think we ought to begetting involved.
But you can't both say thatIsrael shouldn't get anything
from the US and we should havenothing to do with them, and
then also tell Israel what to do.
Agreed, you've got to pick one.
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If you want us to be the bigbrother and tell them what to do
, then we've got to come totheir rescue when they fuck up.
If you don't want them to haveto come to their rescue, well
then they could do whatever thefuck they want.
It's their problem.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Which I kind of wonder if this isn't a
separation anxiety moment forIsrael.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
All right, I think it's just here's what you got to
remember.
The current president of Israel, the prime minister of Israel
Netanyahu, is an American.
He grew up in the US.
He speaks English as his firstlanguage.
He speaks English as his firstlanguage.
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He sees the US just as much ashis homeland as he does Israel,
and that's the way you can hearthat in his speech, like he
doesn't see them as separatecountries that make separate
decisions.
That's his problem.
That shouldn't be our problem.
So I have no issue with anyother country doing whatever the
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fuck they want.
They just got to remember thegolden rule, which is you know,
fuck around, find out, but,honestly, our focus and our
problems are here at home, andwe got plenty of them here.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And what do you think of us defending israel the way
we are?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
well, I don't think we ought to be doing jack shit
with israel.
I mean, we are we well?
We should well.
How many ways do you want me tosay we shouldn't be?
I've said this since day one.
I said this since a year ago.
When they got attacked inOctober, I said they could do
whatever they want.
If I lived there, I wouldprobably bomb the fuck out of
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Gaza, and they have been.
That's not our problem.
We're not the ones bombing themand we shouldn't be the ones
buying Gaza.
As much as it sounds cool tohave Trump, you know, take over
the beach and put in a Trumpcasino out there, that's just
(15:58):
funny.
It's a meme.
Realistically speaking, youknow, what Israel is doing with
Iran is not that different fromwhat Russia did with Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Oh, I totally disagree.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
They're attacking a foreign country, check that is
close to them, check that has athreat of getting nuclear
weapons that are aimed at themvery closely positioned to them.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So Ukraine never had that?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
No, I didn't say had, iran didn't have it either.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I'm saying very close to getting.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And Ukraine is probably about a year away from
getting US weapons, or at leastGerman weapons.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Iran has the capability of generating a nuke
tomorrow if they want to.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, I don't think they do I don't think they do.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Based off of.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Based off of the fact that we keep a tighter eye on
Iran than just about any othercountry in the Middle East.
Like we have more satellitetime over Iran, we have more
humans in Iran, we have a lot ofpeople watching Iran, and if
Iran got to the point where theycan make a nuke tomorrow, us
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would be the one doing somethingabout it, not Israel.
The fact that Israel is doingthis leads me to think that
they're actually further awaythan that.
Why?
Well, because Israel is goingto do something knee-jerk us is
going to wait till the lastminute and okay when your
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rationale there is well, because, first of all, middle eastern
people in general are moreknee-jerk and, like it or not,
the israel is a middle easterncountry.
you mean they're semitic?
You mean they're Semitic?
No, I mean they're MiddleEastern.
They've got that attitude.
Not at all.
I mean what I say, dude.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You just don't want to admit when you say I'm
anti-Semitic, that I'm anti theentire fucking region, but it's
okay.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, if you want to create new definitions for words
like man and woman, I, I, I'mnot really into that I prefer to
have words actually mean whatthey mean.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Actually I'm going back around for 100 years.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I'm going back on the original definition, but it's
okay, but the originaldefinition, which has been
around for 100 years, onlyincludes jews.
But the original definition,which has been around for 100
years, only includes Jews.
Okay, there is no otherdefinition, then why?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
was it ever?
Why wasn't it anti-Jewish oranti-Zionist or anti-anything
related to the religion, versusthe people that were in that
area?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's literally why it's anti-Semitic.
That's why it's called that.
It's because it refers tonon-Presbyterian Jews.
The Semitic people does not justinclude Jews, never has the
word anti-Semitic, which wascreated in Europe 100 years ago,
is anti-Semitic because theywanted to include non-religious
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Jews, and the word Jew first andforemost implies a religion.
However, if you look at thediscrimination against Jews,
those discriminating againstJews, whether in Germany or
elsewhere, don't really care,and never have cared, whether
it's a practicing Jew or anatheist Jew who runs a store and
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has nothing to do with religion.
If you look Jewish, they'regonna dislike you.
That's why the word Semitic wasused.
It's basically saying it'sdiscrimination against those
guys that you draw with hookednoses ironically, neither of us
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have one, but okay yeah, well,some of us are more jewish than
others.
But, dude, by the way you know,you do know I'm like far from a
pure jew.
Sure, we, we talk about thatand it's funny and everything,
but I'm mostly russian oh well,you know, lots of russians were
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jewish yeah, but geneticallyI've seen fiddler on the roof.
Dude, it's okay I, yes, I havetoo I uh, if I were rich man I
actually even know where thevillage is.
That, uh, that we were kickedout of back in them days, back
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in the late 1800s.
My dad looked it up on the mapwhile I was up there.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So where did your family fall on the Bolshevik
Revolution?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Oh, solidly pro, Really.
Oh yeah, jews are always forthe communism.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Agreed.
I mean you look at the leadersof the Bolsheviks and some Jews,
my grandparents- met at acommunist party meeting.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Okay, so that should tell you something.
How do you feel about that?
It's par for the course.
It's kind of what I wouldexpect them to.
It's very stereotypical.
It's very stereotypical.
And if I tell you what?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
their jobs.
Are you're going to think it'seven more stereotypical?
Okay, I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So my grandfather was an economist who worked at a
bank and my grandmother was acollege teacher.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I don't know what subject she taught, so I'm not
sure exactly.
Okay, so they were literallyanti-Tsarist.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
They were solidly middle class to upper middle
class.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Right, so they were well within that yeah which is
very stereotypical I have enoughfree time to say fuck the czar.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well, I think, I think what it is is, um, you
know, we could spend the wholeshow talking about what it is in
the background of Jewishculture that makes people lean
left.
Uh, I have a lot of theories onthat count, although I will say
in the U?
S that is.
Although I will say in the USthat is solidly changing thanks
to all the from the river to thesea chanting going on.
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There's more and more Jewsjoining the right now.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well, okay, if we're talking about LA and everything
else, yeah, it has goneliterally to the ultimate end of
saying from the river, meaningthe Mississippi in the US
context to the Pacific is Mexico.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, pretty much that's what I've been hearing.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
No, no, uh.
Mexico occupied a portion ofcalifornia for a period of time
of about 20 years.
We've had it for over 200 umfuck you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
No, yeah, you may want to refrain from saying shit
like that, as you're going tobe in mexico tomorrow but, I'm
okay.
Well, you were the one who wasworried about geopolitics.
I'm saying don't bring thegeopolitics.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Dude, you're not going to post this till?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I'm already on my way back I will make sure I posted
before that all right, cool.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Anyway, I already know where the embassy is and I
know csv is going to ask.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
So I'm going to include the geo coordinates of
the hotel uh-huh okay no, sojust because csv is going gonna
ask, I know so quick travel tipum whenever you're flying.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
One things I always do is I take a copy of the
passport and I put it in theliner of the bag.
Um, the reason why I put it inthe liner of the bag is it's a
piece of paper.
You know, a single piece ofpaper isn't going to be easily
noticed there, yep, but it's aquick way to say that is my bag,
(24:42):
this is mine.
Well, someone can't strip offother identification.
They can't do shit withoutunpacking the bag entirely.
They can't get to the liner.
They can't do that um, beyondthat um, if your passports ever
lost or stolen while you'reoverseas and you go to a us
consulate, and if you have acopy of your passport, it makes
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it a much quicker easier yeah,they can look everything up.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, I'm not too worried about people seeing my
bag.
Okay, have you had your bag?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
stolen.
Um, domestically, I've had mybag lost, yes, lost, or stolen.
Lost, I I'll say lost becauseit came pre-stolen, but there
was enough valuables in therethat either way, it doesn't
matter.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah well, my initials are embroidered on my
bags, so it's pretty hard toconfuse them oh well, my bags
have very unique tagging andeverything else.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Uh, thanks to some of the 3d printers from the no
genocide.
Um, like I, I, I know my bag.
I'm not gonna confuse my bagfor someone else.
It's more about somebody elseconfusing it for theirs, so you
want to make sure it doesn'tlook like theirs oh yeah, like I
have my status tag on therewith United, I have another
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custom name tag, externallyvisible I.
It is clear this is not theirbag.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I have another custom name tag externally visible.
It is clear this is not theirbag.
Yeah, yeah, I always thoughtit'd be a good idea to have like
a bumper sticker type thing onyour bag that just says this is
not your bag, because obviouslythe only guy that's going to
know it's theirs is the guy whoput that on Sure?
Yeah, now, when I was shippingthings that somebody could rip
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off, I actually had a hard-sidedcase that was lockable and then
I put a Red Cross symbol on it,a really big format, so it
looked like it was medicalequipment and people aren't
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going to steal that unlessthey're total assholes.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Well, the only time I really fly with a checked bag
is when I'm carrying a gun.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, that's usually when I carry it in there is when
I'm carrying a gun.
Yeah, well, that's usually whenI carry it in there.
But yeah, you're obviously nottaking a gun to Mexico.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So no, the rules there are fucking insane, Like a
.380 is the top caliber for.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, I remember going to Mexico and like being
able to buy magazines supercheap for large size.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
No, you can't do shit there, not anymore.
So in your home you're allowed,because it's in the Mexican
Constitution.
Like I went down this rabbithole, you're allowed a pistol
for defense up to a 380.
Yep, which is an anemiccartridge.
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But regardless of that, okay,fine, um.
So I can't take my nightmare umin exporting a firearm and then
re-importing it is such a painin the ass, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I know a few guys that have gotten dove hunting
down there, I believe.
I think it's doves.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
That's mainly Argentina.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
What else could it be in Mexico?
Ducks, maybe Ducks, maybe Ducks.
Sure, yeah, could be ducks.
I don't know, but it wassomething that was Mexican, and
even just bringing 12-gauge wasa pain in the butt.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Oh yeah, you literally have to export the
firearm.
So you have to go through allthe US procedures, Then you have
to import the firearm.
You have to go through all theUS procedures, then you have to
import the firearm.
You have to go through all theMexican procedures, then you
have to export the firearm.
Go through all the Mexicanprocedures, import the firearm.
There's just no way you'retaking something there.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, and I don't know what the rules are in
renting guns out there either.
Yeah, I don't know what therules are in renting guns out
there either pretty liberal.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Actually are they.
Yeah, so if you're a touristand you have range time or
you've got a hunt scheduled, youcan rent a gun pretty easy.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh, okay, good, good.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So question.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Go on mute again.
No, I'm here.
Okay, question what?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Where do you fall on this LA riot stuff?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Oh, I've said it before I think we should just
let it burn.
I don't believe we ought to bedoing anything at all.
It's California's problem, justlike Israel.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
But that problem affects the rest of the nation.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Does it though.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, electoral votes alone.
Yes, it absolutely does.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Well, we can just keep arresting their congress
critters then.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Okay, so Newsom 2026?
.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing to stop somebody from
running right as long as theywere born in this country.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Actually, the only prohibition on a foreign
national holding office ispresident.
Other than that, you can be anaturalized citizen and run for
any office you want.
Yeah, I've done that.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
But in Newsom's case he can run.
But I don't think after what'shappened in California he can
run.
But I don't think after what'shappened in California he's
going to have any chance to help.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I think he's going to run for Senate.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
So is Nancy going to be done then?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
No, no, no.
What's her face's successor?
The woman who couldn't rememberwhere she was and everything
else.
Oh, the black chick, no chick,no, no, she was white.
Um, now I'm being equallyableist and can't remember.
Uh, but uh, dementia patient,obvious dementia patient
(31:50):
relative relativeative dementiaor full-on dementia Full-on.
Like, did not understand whyshe was on the floor of a.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Really, I don't know who that is.
I must have missed that bit, ohmy.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
God, look up the last two California senators.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
California Senators oh my god, I thought she was
dead.
She is.
That's the point.
This is the guy that replacedher.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
That Newsom would be going up against that he yeah,
yeah, yeah, because I thoughtshe had been replaced and you're
like he's gonna go for her.
Okay, so he would run againstthe guy.
That's got it right now,correct, okay.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Okay, okay, okay.
Did he appointed to thatposition?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Sure, sure, that's.
That'd be a dick move, but okay.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Oh, total dick move.
Yeah, but um.
But have you seen him?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Oh, nisam.
Yes, yes, I've seen Nisam.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
What part of him doesn't scream dick?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well, fair enough.
I mean, his face does kind oflook like it.
Hmm, yeah, I don't know, manit's.
I thought he was gonna runinstead of laughing black girl,
uh.
But he didn't, and probablybecause he knew running against
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trump would be so it was riggedyeah, so yeah, I don't know, man
I, what he's got going for himis he's got the politician look
right.
He is what he's kind of got,that kind of late 40s gray hair,
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you know, nice looking man kindof thing going on.
But he's run California to theground.
They had a surplus when he camein Yep and it's just a total
dumpster fire and that's why Isay let it burn.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So, but this is where him moving to a senator is to
his advantage.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Well, because the is to his advantage, because the
next governor has.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
He's only going to do things that are going to be
advantageous.
The next governor has to comein and deal with reality.
He, as a senator, doesn'tnecessarily have to deal with
that.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Well, he wouldn't have to deal with it at all,
other than getting some pork forCalifornia Sure, but that's for
California Sure.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
But that's my point.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Okay, well, I don't disagree with that at all.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I mean do you think he's going to give up politics
and say no, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
This is what I've done.
Of course, he's not going togive up politics.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Then he's going to be the next senator from
California, mark Rauerts.
He's going to be the nextsenator from California.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Mark my words.
Yeah, but it's more likely thatthan running for president.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
He can't run for president right now.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
No, yeah, I don't think so either anyway, um what
else did you happen to watch?
Speaker 1 (35:18):
you're usually the one sending me all this stuff um
sure I've been prepping forthis trip so yeah, you haven't
been watching as much dude I Ihave had to deal with so much
big shit and everything elseover the last week, getting
ahead of stuff that I wouldnormally do next week, and it's
been crazy.
We've got this bid open withScottish water.
(35:41):
It's like 80 million pounds.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Oh well, don't talk about contracts on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Well, it's a multi award.
Everything I'm saying is publicknowledge.
Either way like seriously, an80 million pound multi
awardaward?
Hell, if we get a fifth of that, jesus Christ, cool, right,
yeah, no shit.
So there's been a lot going on,so there's been getting ahead
(36:08):
of these issues that are comingup.
I'm still taking my laptop withme for work.
You gotta do that.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I don't want to, and you know the messaging to my
staff has been if you need me,call me, yeah, but please know
that you actually really need meyeah, I usually just tell
people that you know I'll have alaptop and phone with me, but
I'm going to be in an area withreally shitty Wi-Fi and mediocre
(36:39):
phone coverage, so you may getme or you may not get me until
12 hours later.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, what I've told people is everything is muted
and I will reply to you at mywill muted and I will reply to
you at my will.
So if I get bored and I open upmy laptop and they check my
email yeah, well, otherwise uh,if it's an emergency, text me
yeah yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
You guys slack at all , or that I'm sorry you guys use
, use Slack.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
No Teams, teams, that's too bad.
Corporate America, everybodyuses Teams.
Yeah, I used.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Slack when I was at.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Dragos.
But before that and since then,no one fucking uses Slack.
Everyone always bitches aboutTeams, right, but Teams
accomplishes the same mission asSlack and Zoom combined Right.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Well, slack actually has always had video, it's just
never been publicized becausethey don't really want you using
it.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
It fucking sucks.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
It's not bad, I've used it.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Okay, you haven't used it with a large group of
people people.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I've used it with 45 people.
How many people do you want?
If you pulled that off, thengreat congratulations well more
than I would force everyone onslack after that work.
Fine.
The I like about Slack but it'sfor the paid version only is
just they never delete anything.
(38:17):
So anything you send to anybody, just like Gmail, it's just
there for eternity.
You can always look things up.
It's got a really goodsearching capability and blank
mail material.
Yeah, which is literally theopposite policy of what I use
for personal stuff on Signal,which has a 30-day burn.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Depending on your settings.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Not, depending on my settings.
Everything's 30 days.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
No, no, no.
So the default settings iseverything is permanent.
So you have to go in and say Iwant to kill this.
My settings is everything's on30%, oh I agree with you, dude,
like my LastPass account is agreat example of sitting there
and saying hey, I'm going tocustomize the shit out of this,
I'm going to change the numberof hashes.
(39:08):
That has been done from mymaster password, which is
already super strong.
I'm going to require this, thatand the other.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
His password is called super strong Go ahead,
keep going.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, sure you go.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Is that with a dollar sign on there?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yep Two of them.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Anyway, no one would guess that yeah no.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
My password is actually 36 characters long,
with 16 characters of trueentropy mixed in.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
So good luck, but you don't know what it is, then I'm
sorry.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
You don't know your password, then I do.
That's my master password.
I know it.
You know it for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yes, okay All right, anyway.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Plus you have multi-factor, with YubiKeys
involved and physical tokens andthings like that, like you know
, I do a few things, okay.
My hash of my vault is thenon-standard algorithm, and that
is based off of preventingrainbow attacks, right, Mm-hmm.
(40:18):
So yeah, there's that.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, I remember when the Microsoft Rainbow Table
came out For Landman yeah, forLandman.
I remember everybody'sdownloading that thing.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
For Landman, yeah, For Landman.
I remember everybody'sdownloading that thing.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Well, landman's really easy, because Landman
actually breaks up the past.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah, two, eight characters yeah, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no.
Three, one, four.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
That doesn't sound right, okay it is.
That doesn't sound right, okayit is.
Yeah, because what I rememberis it was an unsalted double
eight character that splits itinto eight characters and then
no.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
No, so that's if you use over a 12-character password
, Right, but if you use anythingelse, it's 314.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Oh well, who would use an under eight character?
Speaker 1 (41:18):
password.
That's insane.
That's the vast majority ofpeople through the history of
this algorithm.
But the point is it is justit's not solving a 12 character
password, it's solving afraction.
Yeah, a fraction, a fraction.
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Well, the Rainbow Table, I remember, fit on one CD
.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
That's how old this is Exactly, and the fact of the
matter is everything I run intotoday.
Landman is a fucking validattack in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
It's scary.
Sorry, you have to take a ways.
It's scary.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Sorry, you have to take a drink Of Tea.
I'm drinking tea, man, I don'tdrink anything else.
Why would you be?
Speaker 1 (42:04):
drinking tea at 11 o'clock at night.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Oh, caffeine, it's fine, I drank tea morning to
night.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I did not have caffeine today the way I
normally did, okay, because Iwoke up, I had the issue and I
took three Sudafed.
Now, this is 12-hour Sudafed,this is extra strength.
That didn't do it, so I tookthe emergency prescription.
I was so wired and jitterythroughout the entire fucking
(42:40):
day I drank like a quarter of acup of coffee and that was it.
Like I was shaking all daytoday, really Okay.
My heart rate did not dropbelow 200 for the vast majority
of the day.
Nice Dude, I should have beenthe German soldier, right, I was
(43:03):
so fucking hopped up on shit.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Or an American one.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Okay, fine, air Force , yeah.
But my point is I took so manyamphetamines and shit to just
deal with this.
It was crazy Like my hands wereliterally shaking.
My hands don't ever shake.
I can drink a full bottle ofcoffee and do whatever.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Well, that's just from not being used to it After
a while you get used to it.
They don't shake anymore.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I don't want to get used to it, dude, I.
After a while you get used toit.
They don't shake anymore.
I don't want to get used to it,dude.
I have to find the underlyingcause here.
I did that for about a year.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
And after about three months you're good.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
I don't know that I'll make it to the three-month
mark if this happens every day.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
You may not have a choice.
The fuck I don't but okay, yeah, well, either way I believe in
human sovereignty, so there'sthat.
Yeah, belief is a good thing,so, um what, uh?
(44:10):
What do you think is going onin china though?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
What do you think is?
Speaker 2 (44:15):
going on in China now as far as Well.
I mean, they're in an awesomeposition right now, especially
if the whole Iran war turns intosomething big.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
But they're not.
We just reached a trade.
Okay, they'd have to back outof the trade deal.
They'd have to do a lot ofthings.
Actually, I think we just madeChina our bitch with the new
trade deal.
In what way our tariffs areover 10, there's are under five.
They're agreeing to importthings directly from us that
(44:47):
they haven't ever done in theway of energy resources, food
and technology and a few otherthings.
They've agreed to respectintellectual property rights.
Yeah, that's just.
Yeah, yeah, okay, cool, yeah, Idon't like.
Anyone who's worked in chinaknows that's bullshit, it's just
not gonna happen?
(45:08):
Culturally fine, gotcha, yeah,but beyond that um like, beyond
iran's retaliation on israel Isee china is pretty anemic at
this point, don't you?
No, why not?
Speaker 2 (45:31):
because they haven't had to spend any money on
anything.
They're just watching the worldaround them burn and they're
getting all kinds of info, alongwith everybody else, on both
Russian weapons and US weaponsin Ukraine.
If Iran turns into something,they'll get even more data on
(45:53):
that.
You know everyone who's notinvolved in the war is still
using these wars to gather data.
And it's and, and it's not likeanyone's only getting data from
one side.
All our friends are just asinterested to see how our
weapons work when it comes pushcomes to shove.
So yeah, it's um.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah it's Because all our friends have purchased our
weapons.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, exactly, and they want to know whether they
wasted their money or not.
And lately it's been like shitshould have bought DJI drones
instead.
But yeah, I think they're.
I think they're in a prettygood position.
You know, the 5%, 10% thing Imean compared to what the
threats were, come on, that'snot even close.
(46:38):
It's whatever them.
Buying American goods is verygood for us, because we need
more locations buying goods fromus, so that's definitely a good
thing.
Goods from us, uh, so that'sdefinitely a good thing.
(47:06):
As far as um, what else?
Uh, as far as them, you know,yes, not agreeing to to certain
things.
Look, china has always playedthe long game.
This has always been my point.
China plays the long game.
So, whatever they do in theshort term, I think the US just
cornered Iran what the US justcornered Iran in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
They may be a BRICS member or whatever else, and
we'll see how much that holds up.
But the reality is israel did agood job of a very surgical
strike on hitting certain peopleand places and israel can say
(47:51):
oh, the us knew.
The us can say oh, and the USknew.
The US can say oh and no, hedidn't.
It doesn't matter, the damageis done.
And where does that go?
What do we do with that?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Well, if that's all it is, then there's nothing for
us to do, which would be great.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
There's a lot for us to do at the negotiating table,
but that's neither here northere.
I don't think Tel Aviv's goingto see relief in the foreseeable
future.
They're going to continuouslybe being bombed.
It could be Even while the USsits across the negotiating
(48:27):
table from Iran.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, but you know that's part of the deal if you
live there.
There's nobody that's alive,that's there right now.
That moved there with theexpectation of peace.
All those people are dead.
Everybody else, either beenborn after that or moved after
(48:54):
that, already knows that it's avery volatile situation there.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
So Fair enough, I don't see a problem.
Any other topics you want tocover?
What have you been watching?
I?
Speaker 2 (49:08):
think.
Well, I've watched a few gunthings here and there there
seems to be something that'sinteresting I have not verified
this so I don't know if it'sactually in the bill has
provisions that grant thepresident, through some very
(49:36):
interesting convoluted kind ofthings, effectively a workaround
.
The court system except for theSupreme Court.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
So in what way do you think these are diluted
practices?
Speaker 2 (49:52):
I don't mean diluted, I mean like there's some hoop
jumping going on.
But effectively, what it saysis that, through legislative
actions, topics of nationalsecurity are excluded from any
(50:22):
type of enforcement activitiesby the courts.
And you can say, well, how canthe legislature do this?
Well, very easily by notproviding any funding for these
activities, effectively by name,excluding the payment of any
civil servants for activitiesthat contradict the sovereignty
(50:46):
of the president on nationalsecurity topics.
So, allegedly, that's in thebig beautiful bill bill, which
is probably a reason trumpreally wants to have this pass.
And elon musk doesn't reallycare, or well, he does care, he
just would rather not be full ofpork.
But, um, if that is in fact thecase, that is a big old Trump
(51:11):
card and that's pun intended.
But also without pun, becauseit effectively says hey, all
these judges around the countrythat have been putting in a
federal, um, uh, what do youcall it?
Uh, what do you call it?
(51:34):
What do I think of Not stays?
They're putting in federal,basically bans on shit.
Right, use the letter Hello.
(51:56):
Anyway, I guess Ben's got arestroom break or something.
So, effectively, if this isactually in the legislation,
which is what I've seen on aYouTube channel, then Trump will
have an awesome little middlefinger for all the lower courts.
This explicitly excludes theSupreme Court, because
(52:20):
essentially that's the only waythat it gets around.
The funding issue is with theSupreme Court Essentially saying
that any court activity whichinvolves a case about national
security is an unpaid activity,which means no one's getting
(52:45):
paid.
The judge isn't going to getpaid for the hours spent on that
.
The employees sitting in thecourtroom are not getting paid
for any time.
While that discussion is goingon, the enforcement of those
rulings cannot happen becausethere's nobody getting paid to
enforce anything that would comeout of that.
(53:08):
So they've effectively defundedthose types of activities from
the courts.
Let's see if Ben's back, benyou back.
Okay, kids, this is future mecoming back on.
(53:30):
I called Ben to find out whatthe heck happened if his
computer died or he went to abathroom break or what, and
turns out that's even funnier.
Uh, well, it's not funny forhim.
He fell asleep.
Now people have said thatlistening to my voice is very
relaxing.
I've certainly heard a fewpeople, csb included, that have
said that they fell asleep whilelistening to the podcast more
(53:52):
than once.
So I can't blame ben for doingthat, um, my voice has that
effect on people.
It's so mellow and soothing.
But, um, I know he's been tired.
He's got this big trip thatwe've talked about coming up and
he hasn't been getting a wholelot of sleep in the interim as
well.
So, um, I told him that it'sfine if he just goes and sleeps.
(54:15):
So we're gonna have the shortepisode.
As you can tell, it's about anhour, a little less than that.
Uh, all said and done, but, um,it'll have to do for this week.
And then, uh, if ben gets backon time and he's not too sleepy
and I I'd like, if I was him, Iwould take a few extra days and
then put out a late episode.
But he says let's go ahead anddo it on time.
(54:37):
So I guess we'll be back inabout a week with the next
episode.
Meanwhile, check out the nextepisode of unrelentingshow, the
other podcast that I do.
We'll see you there.
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