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A legacy brand shutters its most familiar lineup, a European capital erupts after a horrific crime, and a fully AI-produced album hits the stores—all in one relentless, no-fluff ride. We unpack Glock’s strategic exit from core models and why the “switch” obsession was never a practical advantage, then follow the money to see how legal risk and courtroom optics shape product decisions in 2024. From there, we zoom out to a very different fire: Dublin’s riots and the way headlines frame protests, crime, and migration. We ask the hard questions about safety, media bias, and what it takes for public trust to snap.

Pivoting from politics to creativity, we debut a new AI music project aimed at commercial quality, not novelty. If modern hits are 90 percent engineering, then the real test is genre fit, lyric craft, and mix quality. We share how the album drew from the Book of James, why the vocals fool listeners, and what’s next with a male-led Corinthians release and a duet already in the works. Along the way, we dig into immigration policy that actually protects workers—think high H1B salary floors and real employer skin in the game—so legal immigrants and citizens aren’t undercut by loopholes.

Then it’s rockets and reality. SpaceX keeps changing the global game, and suborbital point-to-point travel could become the new Concorde for those who value time over comfort. Still, we separate admiration from faith and revisit old questions about Apollo footage, evidence, and what it would take to silence doubts with modern multi-cam lunar streams. We even kick the tires on luxury bunkers and why energy, filtration, and maintenance make them more resilient sanctuaries than true end-of-world shields. And because nothing escapes incentives, we talk about X’s algorithmic lurch toward outrage and what happens when a platform prioritizes friction over relevance.

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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Howdy Ben, how are you today?

SPEAKER_03 (00:02):
I'm doing good, Gene.
Hasn't been that long since wetalked last.

SPEAKER_01 (00:06):
Oh, it feels like years.
Okay.
Been been a long time.
I hear you love CSB.
I got that.

SPEAKER_03 (00:20):
Uh yeah, and he thinks uh yeah, we we're
apparently a homosexual couplefrom his uh point of view.

SPEAKER_01 (00:26):
I didn't see that.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (00:27):
Yeah, he said, thanks, Ben.
So you love me with three andyou love Gene with four.

SPEAKER_01 (00:31):
So I wasn't sure what's meeting errors.
Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_03 (00:35):
No, he no, no, no.
He love him with three of them.
Or maybe not.
I don't know.
Maybe he meant unconditional.
I don't know.
That's a good see.
I thought he meant all four,which would include arrows.
So that's why.
Well, maybe he didn't.
He'll have to clarify.
But fuck you, CSB, for gettingus kicked off the stream.

SPEAKER_01 (00:53):
Yeah, CSB, you kicked us off the stream, you
bastard.
He denies that, of course, butDarren told me that it was CSB's
fault.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05):
I don't know.
See, my thought there would beDarren's kind of a shitster, so
he's a troublemaker.
Yeah.
So maybe we're blaming uh CSVfor no reason.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20):
Maybe, but I don't know, man.
I'm just going by what Darrensaid.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24):
No.
Alright, so it's been a crazyweek, hasn't it?
Yeah.
Dude, first Glock, now the scar.

SPEAKER_01 (01:34):
Yeah, scar's done.
I I had to reply to that videothat announced it basically to
you know me.
That as as a owner of the FS2000, I know what you're feeling
right now, folks.
The scar people.
Because when that gun gotcancelled, the FS 2000 was such

(01:56):
a crap gun.
Come on.
It was a an iconic weapon fromCall of Duty.
What are you talking about?
It looked stupid.
It looked futuristic.

SPEAKER_03 (02:09):
In the most retarded possible way, yes.

SPEAKER_01 (02:14):
No, it was literally the gun that was used in one of
my favorite movies.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
They use that in the movie.
That was a great gun.
I I I had two of them.
And uh why'd you get rid of themif they were so great?
Well, I had this thing aboutout-of-production weapons and

(02:38):
cars and everything.
I I don't like the risk of thegame.
So you're gonna get rid of yourGlock?
My Glock is well past.
It's too my Glock has very fewGlock parts in it at this point.
That gun was reworked so manytimes that it's barely a Glock.
Okay.

(02:58):
You know, it doesn't have aGlock trigger, it doesn't have a
Glock barrel, it doesn't havemost of the springs, it doesn't
have the rod, it doesn't likethe only Glock parts on that gun
are parts that were made ofplastic.
Everything else has beenreplaced.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (03:18):
Well, anyway, so those who don't know, uh
basically everything on the allthe Glock platforms are now gone
except the Glock V or whateverit is, and one of their newer
ones.

SPEAKER_01 (03:32):
Oh that's actually not true.
There are three guns that aregonna be continue production,
and they're all the the 43-44series, the compact ones.

SPEAKER_03 (03:43):
And they're newer ones, like I said.

SPEAKER_01 (03:45):
All the all the current guns will be replaced by
a not yet shown gun or guns ofthe V series.
So we don't know yet if it'sgonna be a small tweak to the
slide, a small tweak to theframe, or none of the above and
a completely different firingmechanism.

(04:08):
So they they have not clarifiedthat at all.
But the guns will keep beingsold to wholesalers through
November.
After that, the wholesalers willcontinue selling it to dealers
until they dry up, and afterthat, the dealers will continue

(04:29):
selling it to people until theydry up.
So probably by the end of theyear, you will no longer be able
to buy a current generationclock.
Or earlier.
Uh maybe.
I don't do you think there'sthat many people that are gonna
just like pull the trigger onbuying a gun that's been
available for over 20 years?
Yeah.

(04:49):
Maybe.
I just don't think their valueis gonna go up.

SPEAKER_03 (04:56):
Okay.
Now I think it'll be interestingto see what happens.

SPEAKER_01 (05:00):
Now, I think it sucks what's happening that
Glock has to do this, but I alsocompletely understand from a
business perspective why Glockis doing this.
They have lawsuits against themin multiple cities, including LA
and Chicago.
And they want to minimize theamount of money that you know

(05:22):
for a fact that the cities aregoing to have the jury's award.
Like in these cities, no matterwhat Gluck Glock says or does,
the judgment will be againstthem.
So what they want to do is limituh the amount of money that is
stolen from the company by thesecities, and that's what their

(05:43):
stockholders would want them todo.
So I think Glock is doingexactly what they should be
doing.
They're protecting theirstockholders.
We'll see.
Now, also I never thought thatthe fact that you can put a
switch in a Glock was a benefit.

(06:04):
It's it's a stupid device.
First of all, Glocks are notcontrollable at the rate of fire
that the switch can.
Yeah, they're extremely fastcyclic, right?
It is super crazy fast rate.
Now, you have to be impressedthat the gun is able to do that,
but from a controllabilitystandpoint, it is retarded.
You do not want a fullyautomatic Glock.

(06:27):
You don't want the Glock 18,even, which is the factory fully
automatic Glock.
It's not fun.
I've shot one.
It's not fun.
You you hold the trigger downfor less than one second.
It is retarded.

SPEAKER_03 (06:41):
There's only one reason to do that.

SPEAKER_01 (06:44):
Well, I mean, it's to have fun, right?
I mean, in the end, but from aeither being accurate or putting
more rounds down line, you woulddo much better firing the
trigger one pull at a time andhaving control of the gun and
having more bullets arrive atyour at whatever it is that

(07:06):
you're targeting than shootingit in full auto mode.
So I I I just think it's astupid thing.
It's dumb that they have to makea change in the gun, but
honestly, it doesn't takeanything away from the gun
because that was not a plus.

SPEAKER_03 (07:24):
The problem is this is insane because you know, like
Brandon Herrera has pointed out,you know, as soon as they get
one of the new guns within a dayor two, they can have a
functional switch.
Like he can figure that out.

SPEAKER_01 (07:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (07:37):
So I don't think there's a way of engineering
around this.

SPEAKER_01 (07:40):
But it doesn't matter because they're not
trying to engineer it away,they're trying to win a lawsuit,
or at least not lose as bad inthe lawsuit.
So all they're doing iscontrolling the amount of money
they're gonna have to pay out byshowing, guys, we already fixed
the problem.
So you you know, it doesn't makesense to punish us for this
because we were even proactiveabout it.

(08:01):
We didn't even wait for thislawsuit to conclude.
We already fixed the problem.
So, you know, just give us aslap on the wrist and we'll all
move along.

SPEAKER_02 (08:09):
But did they?
We'll see.

SPEAKER_01 (08:11):
But again, it doesn't matter if they did as
long as they can point to themdoing something.

SPEAKER_03 (08:16):
Yeah.
So the left has absolutely losttheir mind about the White
House.

SPEAKER_01 (08:23):
Oh my god.
Do we even have a White House?
I heard it got demolished.

SPEAKER_03 (08:27):
Part of the East Wing is being remodeled.

SPEAKER_01 (08:31):
Yeah.
Well, you you probably didn'tsee my post.
I dug up an old photo from the1930s when it was remodeled.
Yeah.
And I I said new new uh archivesshow that this is not the first
time that the Trump family hasfucked with the White House.
So we're gonna just blame thaton Trump's dad.

(08:53):
Um because why not?

SPEAKER_03 (08:55):
You know, I mean I mean so, first of all, he's he's
not having the taxpayers evenpay for this, he's getting
donors to donate the funds, sothe taxpayers aren't doing it.

SPEAKER_01 (09:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (09:07):
And it's you know, it's okay to upgrade something.
Like, it's okay.
Calm down.

SPEAKER_01 (09:13):
That part of the White House was not part of the
original White House, anyway.

SPEAKER_03 (09:16):
So it it it was under Roosevelt, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (09:20):
And also, is this really worse than making the
White House a timeshare andrenting it out to uh political
donors the way the Clintons did?

SPEAKER_03 (09:31):
Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 (09:34):
You know, they had a price sheet for the Lincoln.

SPEAKER_03 (09:36):
Which bedroom do you want to stay in?
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (09:39):
Yeah, that's uh that's an$18,000 donation, and
Bill gets to have your daughtersuck his cock.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Did you not read the fine print?

SPEAKER_05 (09:50):
That's how that worked.

SPEAKER_01 (09:52):
Oh well.
You know what?
She's the victim in all this.

SPEAKER_03 (09:56):
She really is.
Like, how do you have any careeror life after that?

SPEAKER_01 (10:02):
Yeah.
Yep, pretty much.
You know, I'm sure at the momentshe was thinking of herself as
the Marilyn Monroe to JohnKennedy.

SPEAKER_03 (10:12):
Yeah.
Just the Jewish version.

SPEAKER_01 (10:14):
But her sad but her best friend make sure that
wasn't gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03 (10:18):
Yeah.
Yeah, so like NBC News, the tothe title is the the headline is
see the donor list for Trump'sballroom as White House East
Wing is destroyed.
Yeah, I mean TDS, man.

SPEAKER_01 (10:36):
I I think it's I heard it was just they were
gonna re rebuild it in gold theway that our king likes it.
Mm-hmm.
It'll be a solid gold wing.
Yeah, we're gonna go either tothe West Wing or the Gold Wing.

SPEAKER_03 (10:53):
So I think I think Ireland's had it.
This is a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01 (11:02):
No, I've only seen one more video beyond what you
sent on Ireland, so I don't knowif there's been a lot more news
in that.

SPEAKER_03 (11:08):
Well, they've been taking people's phones.

SPEAKER_01 (11:10):
Oh, is that what they've been holy shit.

SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
Yeah.
They've been taking people'sphones to not let them record.
Wow.
That's insanity, man.
That's true insanity.
But Ireland has been, you know,rioting.

unknown (11:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (11:26):
So I don't know.
We'll see.
You know, this is all over arape of a 10-year-old girl.

SPEAKER_01 (11:31):
Yeah.
Which, you know, the theIslamists out there don't see a
problem with this.
Mm-hmm.
You know, I mean, rape is noteven like the punishment for
rape isn't even a loss of anybody part, unlike the punishment
for stealing a donkey.

SPEAKER_03 (11:54):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (11:55):
You got no okay.
I was waiting for a funnycomeback in that one, but okay.

SPEAKER_03 (11:59):
Well, I mean, this is where we should make the loss
of a body part, you know, a veryspecific body part.
Yeah, so Dublin, so here Timemagazine's reporting that Dublin
uh is in riot for a thirdstraight night, people arrested.

SPEAKER_01 (12:17):
Yeah, they're saying far right Nazis are are doing a
violent protest in uh Dublin.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Now, what what happened to allthe women that it's anti-migrant
gene.

SPEAKER_03 (12:34):
Well, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (12:35):
I'm just re- I'm just seeing what uh GBN is
saying, and they're saying it'sfar right ideology Nazis.

SPEAKER_03 (12:41):
Did you see the Swedish girl?

SPEAKER_01 (12:44):
Yeah, yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_03 (12:46):
The one that uh the 16-year-old one, yeah.
Yeah, that the the guy wasn'tdeported, right?

SPEAKER_01 (12:52):
Because it's not a serious enough crime because he
wasn't fucking her long enough.

SPEAKER_03 (12:56):
Exactly.
He came too quick.

SPEAKER_01 (12:57):
Yeah, yeah.
That's the just how could likeso premature ejaculation gets
you.
Oh, we're totally banned off thestream for this.
Premature ejaculation totallygets you from being deported, I
guess.
Ah just think if he would havetaken some Viagra beforehand, he

(13:18):
would have had a very differentfeature.
Mm-hmm.
It's insane.
And I I I meant I was talking toa friend of mine today, so I had
a like a four-hour phone callabout religious topics today
with the my my token Catholicfriend.
And uh and you know, like thethe guy prays for me every day,

(13:41):
so I I told him I appreciate himdoing that, even though I don't
believe that anyone's listening,but nonetheless, it's kind of
nice knowing someone's doingsomething like that because they
care.
But anyway, the the idea is thatlike you're starting to realize
as a westerner why women dresshead to toe in complete covered

(14:04):
black outfits.
Because Muslim men obviouslycan't control it.
Anything they see that isn'tcovered head to toe, they're
gonna fuck.

SPEAKER_03 (14:17):
Or at least try to.

SPEAKER_01 (14:19):
Well, yeah, but quite often successfully.
I mean, I think Britain's hadwhat 20,000 rapes since they
started this policy.

SPEAKER_00 (14:26):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (14:27):
That's a significant number.
I don't think that's the waythey wanted to increase their
population.

SPEAKER_03 (14:33):
No.
And look, here's the deal.
I had someone say to me, Well,if it was one of their own, they
wouldn't be doing this.
You're right.
So what does that even mean?
Well, they're racist becausethey're only doing this because
it's a migrant.

SPEAKER_01 (14:51):
Oh, you mean if an Irishman raped a child?
Correct.
You don't think that there wouldbe protests?
I think there would be.

SPEAKER_03 (15:00):
I think there would be protests if the government
was protecting him and keepinghim safe.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (15:04):
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.

SPEAKER_03 (15:08):
Anyway, man, the Irish, you know, hopefully we've
got some of that fight left inus because we need it.

SPEAKER_01 (15:14):
Are you gonna go there?

SPEAKER_03 (15:15):
No, I'm saying, like, here in the US, we need to
be, you know, stand up as well.

SPEAKER_01 (15:21):
Well, yeah, and I mean the Europe and the UK in
particular is what happens whenyou allow unfettered immigration
of a religion that as its tenanthas convert or die as its
market.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (15:38):
Well, and that that's the thing that we have to
remember while the US has had alot of illegal migration as
well.

SPEAKER_05 (15:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (15:47):
At least the Latin American sector, you know, it's
it's largely Catholic.
Yeah.
Right.
So it's not, it's not, it's notthis influx of a totally
different ethos than the whatthe West has held.
So it's much more likely thatthey're going to integrate at
least somewhat, right?

SPEAKER_01 (16:08):
Well, there's plenty of violence coming from illegals
that has nothing to do withreligion.

SPEAKER_03 (16:18):
But I mean, I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about the people whoare coming here.

SPEAKER_01 (16:22):
The problem with the people that are coming here is
that they're not regular people.
There have been numerousexamples of people coming here
illegally, exactly the way thatCubans came when Castro opened
up all the prisons.
Like when they when they did adeal between Cuba and the US,

(16:43):
this was back in the I think inthe 90s, to where, in fact, the
movie Scarface is based on this.
That when the US did a deal withCuba to essentially allow
political prisoners to be sentto the US, Cuba took full

(17:03):
advantage of that to cleansetheir prisons of all the most
violent criminals that were inCuban prisons.
So they they effectively said,Oh, yeah, these are all
political prisoners.
And what instead they releasedinto the United States were the
most violent, not politicalprisoners.
And of course, these peopleweren't going to correct anybody

(17:25):
at the border, saying, No, no,no, no.
I shouldn't be crossing into theborder because I'm actually a
violent criminal.
That's not going to happen.
So the US just do-dee-do-de-do,yeah, okay, we we saved a bunch
of Cubans.
Yeah, you saved a bunch of Cubanrapists and murderers.
Congratulations.
So what happened, I think, inthe last four years of the

(17:48):
Biden's administration, is agrander scale of that, where
countries like Colombia,countries like Venezuela, all
these countries basically tooktheir violent offenders that
they didn't want to have to payfor because they're going to
have life prison sentences, andthen gave them some money and a

(18:09):
one-way plane ticket to get intoMexico.
And from there, they had youknow organizations guiding them
to the border here too.

SPEAKER_02 (18:18):
The NGOs.

SPEAKER_01 (18:19):
The NGOs, yeah, yeah.
Which we paid for one way or theother.
Yeah.
Insanity.
It's pure insanity.

SPEAKER_03 (18:28):
Look, point is for those who are economic migrants,
which I think there's a mix,they are more likely to
integrate than not.
But if you're getting peoplefrom asylums or prison and so
on, we don't necessarily wantthose people here.

SPEAKER_01 (18:46):
Thank you very much.
And I I think that the the legalimmigrants, people that apply
and then wait for yearssometimes to be allowed to enter
the United States as a legalimmigrant, those are generally
economic they're doing it foreconomic reasons, but they're

(19:09):
also exactly the people that wedo want.
And what we don't want are thetwo things that essentially
limit the number of legallegitimate people.
One is the illegals that aretaking up the places in
organizations and in governmentuh support from people that

(19:33):
could be coming over in anincreased number of legal
immigrants, and then the otherone is H1Bs, which are also not
immigrants, but are taking thejobs that legal immigrants, as
well as obviously Americans,would have.
The people that come herelegally and the people that were

(19:54):
born here are the ones thatought to be working here, not
foreigners that come in on abullshit visa, and certainly not
complete illegals that don'teven bother getting a visa.

SPEAKER_03 (20:06):
Well, luckily we've closed the H1B.

SPEAKER_01 (20:10):
Yeah.
For how long though?
Well, we'll see how that goes.

SPEAKER_03 (20:16):
I mean, uh by putting an actual cost for like
a hundred thousand dollars on anindividual.

SPEAKER_01 (20:22):
Yeah, that I mean that's what they should have had
from day one the company is thatand I wouldn't say the actual I
would say like double thesalary.
If you want to bring somebody inthat's gonna be making eighty
thousand a year here, thecompany should have to spend
160,000 on that.

SPEAKER_03 (20:38):
Yeah, I I don't have a problem with that.
In fact, I would say that that'sa great way to do it and also
have a minimum salary, yeah.
Like you can't bring anyone inunder H1B that isn't gonna make
a minimum salary of six figures,right?
Because otherwise, thatotherwise that is not a super
skilled labor position that youcan't find here.

SPEAKER_01 (21:00):
And that was the way that H1B program was put through
in Congress is originally as away to allow America to steal
the brains of other countrieseffectively.
And I think we're both fine withthat.
Yeah, totally.
Like, if somebody is, let's saythat there's a a chip expert in

(21:22):
Taiwan, I would love to see thatperson move to Texas permanently
and become a U.S.
resident.
Like, there's no reason thatthat person shouldn't be moving
to the U.S.
That makes sense.
But, and and incidentally, I usethat as an example because there
are a shit ton of people thatare in Taiwan right now which

(21:47):
absolutely have a higherunderstanding of how to make
really high density chips thanpeople that are in the US.
Like Taiwan is the leader inthat front right now, it's not
the US.
So let's let's get people thatwe genuinely don't have or have
very few available in the US,and not try and use the excuse

(22:10):
of H1B visas so that rich peoplecan have a housekeeper that is
you know cleaning their housefor 20 bucks an hour.

SPEAKER_03 (22:24):
Completely agree.

SPEAKER_01 (22:25):
Yeah, you know, I no longer have a housekeeper
cleaning my house because I Idon't want to support illegals
at this point.

SPEAKER_03 (22:34):
Well, I mean, you can hire a non-illegal
housekeeper.

SPEAKER_01 (22:37):
Yeah, they're they're way too expensive.

SPEAKER_03 (22:41):
Really?
Not around here.

SPEAKER_01 (22:43):
Really?
Yeah.
I don't think you can clean yourhouse for less than 30 35 bucks
an hour here.

SPEAKER_03 (22:50):
That's insane.

SPEAKER_01 (22:51):
Mm-hmm.
That's what it is in Austin.

SPEAKER_03 (22:55):
Austin is insanity.

SPEAKER_01 (22:57):
You know, I mean it was already out of there.
It was already 20 bucks an hourlike pre-COVID.

SPEAKER_03 (23:05):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (23:08):
No, it's not gonna be long until basically
housekeeping is gonna be asix-figure job.

SPEAKER_03 (23:14):
Yeah, right, dude.
Come on.

SPEAKER_01 (23:15):
In Austin?

SPEAKER_03 (23:16):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (23:17):
No.
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (23:20):
Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 (23:22):
Yeah, so uh we got that.
Oh, my album came out.

SPEAKER_03 (23:27):
Yeah, your album came out.
You uh looked up Doug Kershaw.

SPEAKER_01 (23:31):
I did.
I did, yeah.
He's uh but ugly as fuck.
Who the hell cares what someonelooks like?
I do.
How do you not care what someonelooks like?
You kidding me?

SPEAKER_03 (23:42):
Because he was a childhood hero of mine.

SPEAKER_01 (23:44):
He looked like a freaking uh one of those
monsters that scares kids at acarnival.
You know, when you pay the twodollars to go in and see Monkey
Man.

SPEAKER_03 (23:55):
Yeah, well, he he's from south of I 10, Louisiana.
That's not part of the UnitedStates.

SPEAKER_01 (24:01):
He's got a lot of the same genes in him, I can
tell that.

SPEAKER_03 (24:04):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (24:06):
There's a few cousins having fun, that's for
sure.
I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_03 (24:12):
Have you ever seen the movie Southern Comfort?
No.
You should watch it.

SPEAKER_01 (24:16):
Should I?
Okay.
Yeah.
And I again, not not takinganything away from his talent
playing a fiddle, but yeah, theguy's head looks like a jaws
from James Bond if somebody hitshim with a nugget stick.
I'm not at all.
I'm totally not.
I watched videos.

SPEAKER_03 (24:35):
But yeah, yeah, it's you see his playing from the hip
style, though.

SPEAKER_01 (24:38):
I did not.
I was looking for that, didn'tsee it, but he was very good at
playing normally.

unknown (24:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (24:44):
Yeah.
So no, it's uh it's all good.
But yeah, so I did, so I'll I'llexplain to you guys because I
want everybody that's listeningto the podcast to buy this, and
not not for uh, you know, thefact that I need to make money
off of it, but it's price verycheap.
It's$5.99 for the whole album or99 cents a track, but it's more

(25:06):
just to try and get it some somelegs so I can push it into uh
getting more visibility frompeople who don't listen to the
podcast.
So the the artist name, and I'llhave obviously I have a link in
the in the podcast as well.
If you look in the the notes orwhatever, in the footer,
there'll be a link to it.

(25:26):
But the artist's name is AmyClaire Smith.
She's a pretty blonde, uh, like25-year-old girl, woman,
whatever, whatever those peoplecall themselves these days.
And uh the this first album, andI'm gonna have a lot more albums
coming out, but this first one'sgot seven songs, they're all

(25:48):
based on topics in uh the bookof James from the Bible, so it
is Christian music, but don'tlet that stop you from buying it
and helping me promote it.
Obviously, I'm not a 25-year-oldwoman, so this is all AI-based,
but making AI music is is quitedifferent than asking chat GPT

(26:13):
to to write a paragraph for you.
This involves a little morestuff by the actual creator.
So it it's something that Iabsolutely use GPT tool or not
GPT.
I don't actually don't use anychat GPT because I don't like
controlled AI systems.
But I use uh a number ofdifferent AIs to create this.

(26:37):
Uh but I will say I think itsounds pretty damn good.

SPEAKER_03 (26:40):
And I think the lyrics are pretty good too.

SPEAKER_01 (26:42):
And the lyrics are pretty, and the lyrics are
basically mine, but obviouslyI'm using tools for to make shit
rhyme better.
So it's a I'm seeing it as atool.
Well we'll see how the copyrightoffice is gonna see it because I
I applied to register everythingfor uh copyright.

SPEAKER_03 (27:04):
Okay, and what's the goal for this?

SPEAKER_01 (27:08):
Oh, I'm gonna start doing this uh a lot more.
I mean, my the goal is obviouslyto see if I can create music
that is on the same level orbetter as what is currently
commercially available within aspecific genre.
So as long as the stuff that I'mputting out isn't any worse for
the genre it is, and I don'tthink it is, I think this

(27:30):
actually sounds better than alot of the other music that I
listened to when I was puttingthis together.
Uh-huh.
There's no reason that peopleshouldn't buy it.
And I think I'm I'm gonna bejust one of many people in the
AI music renaissance where Ithink there's a very high
potential that in the comingyear, as close as a year, but

(27:52):
maybe a couple of years, butcertainly could happen within a
year, that we're gonna startseeing top 40 billboard chart
music involve no actual singersand no actual musicians.

SPEAKER_03 (28:07):
Well, I think we're I mean, aren't we already there
with Taylor Swift?

SPEAKER_01 (28:11):
I mean, that's the thing you have to remember.
Like, when you're listening to,and it doesn't have to be Taylor
Swift, but any popular artistlike Taylor Swift, like the
amount of the work required toput the album out to generate
the actual song MP3s that you'relistening to is probably about

(28:31):
10% singer and 90% engineeringand other audio-related
functions.
So you're there there's so muchmanipulation of sounds that is
happening.
I doubt that Taylor Swift iseven hearing the other musicians
when she's singing her songs.

(28:53):
I think she's basically singingthem, you know, to a backing
track in her headphones that isa temporary track just to get
her part, and then they're gonnaredo all the other parts to
match her.
That's how I would do it anyway,if I was engineering this whole
thing.
So, long story short, obviouslyit's not listed under my name.

(29:17):
Um I'm using a cute blonde girlfor it because I want people to
actually download it.
But if you do a search for AmyClare Smith, and Claire is
spelled Irish, it's not theEnglish spelling, it's
C-L-A-R-E.
Oh.
No, without an eye.

SPEAKER_03 (29:36):
Do I get half the revenue?

SPEAKER_01 (29:38):
Just for being born Irish?
No, because I get 90% of therevenue.
Because you're promoting it onthe podcast for being born
Jewish.
That's why what hell yeah.
Well, you want to promotesomething?
You go for it, boy.
Promote whatever you want.
What do you want to promote?

SPEAKER_03 (29:54):
If anybody's buying Audible books or wanting an
Audible subscription, use my uhaffiliate link.
Send it to me.

SPEAKER_01 (30:01):
Let's stick it in.
There's no reason we shouldn'thave an affiliate link for
Audible in there.
That's fine.
I'm cool with that.

SPEAKER_03 (30:07):
Yeah.
Ah, anyway.

SPEAKER_02 (30:10):
No, I'm just giving you grief.
I know.
And I knew you, I knew you'd be,you know, you would live up to
your heritage.

SPEAKER_01 (30:19):
Damn straight.
You mean you mean that myheritage as a uh music producer?

SPEAKER_03 (30:24):
Uh well, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (30:27):
Uh-huh.
But I'm I'm glad of this.
Uh, there's been a bunch ofpeople I've sent this to, and I
just kind of said, hey, what doyou think of this?

SPEAKER_03 (30:35):
And uh, so what was the other one you did today?
That oh, that's so that's you'regonna have another persona too?

SPEAKER_01 (30:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm gonna do a male persona.
You have to, you gotta do afemale and a male.
So I finally got that male voicelocked in that I like that I
want to keep.
And then I also did a duetbetween them, which you heard as
well.
But the next album I'm gonnahave, which is based on
Corinthians, one Corinthians.
So that one is gonna be donewith the male singer, but I'm

(31:03):
gonna keep cranking these out.
I mean, the Bible has a lot ofcontent, dude.
I don't know if you know this ornot, but there's a lot of
content in the Bible that I canuse.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (31:14):
Uh-huh.
Yeah, I yeah.
I have I have read the Bible,you may not know this, but I've
actually taken you shouldtotally do a one off of you
know, Judges.

SPEAKER_01 (31:26):
Uh okay.
Uh that's yeah, I thoughtnumbers would probably be the
most fun.

SPEAKER_02 (31:33):
God, yeah, that's an album everyone's gonna want to
be.
Oh, Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_01 (31:40):
And he lived to 700 and uh yes, but his wife became
barren at 612 years old, andtherefore he had to take on a
new wife.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (31:54):
Numbers is definitely the most challenging
book to slog through.

SPEAKER_01 (31:58):
Numbers, yeah.
Deuteronomy is kind of sloggy.
But again, I'm actually kind oflooking forward to rereading all
this stuff.
Like I told you before, Ihaven't read the the Bible.
I the New Testament for at least25 years, and the Old Testament
probably 20 years.
So it's been a while.
Yeah, probably Old Testamentlike 16 years, because I was

(32:21):
part of that rabbinical studygroup in uh in Dallas before I
moved to Austin.
But New Testament definitelylonger.
Yeah.
But like I said, I'm going backthrough the Gospels.

SPEAKER_03 (32:33):
You're what?
I'm going back through theGospels.

SPEAKER_01 (32:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's good.
But yeah, it's uh I I I'mgetting I'm getting a the kind
of reception that I was lookingtrying like hoping to get, which
is people not realizing it's AIgenerated until they're told.
At which point, of course,everybody says, Oh, yeah, I

(32:58):
totally knew it.
Well, if you fucking knew it,why didn't you ask me?

SPEAKER_03 (33:01):
Uh you know, I and I I knew it was AI generated
because I know what you'redoing.

SPEAKER_01 (33:05):
Well, you know what I'm doing.
I've been sharing stuff with youfor a year.

SPEAKER_03 (33:08):
Right.
But what I would say is it's notit the AI generated music has
gotten way the hell better.
But what I would say is it isn'tit the problem is that all these
pop stars and everybody havegone through and used so much
auto-tune and everything.
Sounds old.

SPEAKER_00 (33:27):
There's there's no reference.
Exactly.
There's no difference.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (33:31):
And that's exactly what it is.
So I I listened to the uhEurovision 1967 Grand Prix,
which you know what Eurovisionis, right?

SPEAKER_03 (33:41):
Yeah, I don't, I've never paid attention.
I've never been into it.

SPEAKER_01 (33:44):
Yeah, I know.
I'm like one of five people inthe US that actually watches
Eurovision every year.
But Eurovision is basically a asong contest that's been going
for many, many, many years inEurope, and uh they have you
know, different countriesbasically vote with their voting
block for the winner is, andit's done in the same way that

(34:05):
like Olympic sports are done,except it's for singing, you
know, and singers.
And anyway, listening to peoplesinging in the 1960s, where you
didn't have autotune and all theother manipulation, you start
thinking, holy shit, dideverybody suck back then or
what?

SPEAKER_03 (34:26):
Uh no, it's just we now have the auto-tune stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (34:29):
Yeah, but that's what I mean.
Compared to the quote unquoteperfection that we've all gotten
used to now, those people soundlike they all need music
lessons.
Now, the the people we'relistening to also need music
lessons.
We just don't hear the rawversion of them.
We only hear the correctedversion, and it's not just pitch

(34:49):
correction, it's also timecorrection.
So, and and when there is uhbreathiness, it's because a
filter was used to create thatbreathiness at the right place,
and not because the person wasactually breathing into the
microphone.
I mean, it's amazing how muchmanipulation happens to modern
music.

(35:10):
So that's interesting stuff.

SPEAKER_03 (35:12):
I by the way, if I sound a little different today,
it's because I had a newtemporary crown put on.

SPEAKER_01 (35:18):
Yeah.
You don't I don't I don't thinkyou sound different.

SPEAKER_03 (35:22):
My my jaw is definitely sore.

SPEAKER_01 (35:24):
Oh, I would imagine, yeah.
Yeah, I gotta get some dentalwork done as well.

SPEAKER_03 (35:28):
It's good news is insurance is covering all but
like 200 bucks of it.

SPEAKER_01 (35:33):
That's awesome.
I need that's kind of probablywhat I should do is just get
some dental insurance and thenwait whatever the minimal weight
is before it can actually fullyapply and then go do some work.

SPEAKER_03 (35:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (35:46):
Because that's I'm getting there and definitely to
that point where I need some.
Yeah, so we'll wrap up thatportion of it.
Now, I am curious because I'mcurious to see what feedback
people have, if any, because thelast episode that we put out was
actually not our normal onschedule episode, which this one
is.

(36:06):
The last episode that wepublished was a short episode
that kind of came about as aresult of a conversation that
Ben and I were having, and Bensaying, Why aren't we recording
this?
And I said, Sure, let's recordit.
So you guys got to hear it, andfor those of you that bothered
listening to it, and I gave awarning at the beginning of that

(36:27):
episode saying, Look, this is areligious topic bonus episode.
So if you don't care about thereligious stuff, you feel free
to skip it.
We'll be back to normal politicsand Texas and guns, as we have
been on this.

SPEAKER_03 (36:44):
And we actually got a fan response about the
episode.

SPEAKER_01 (36:46):
Oh, you did?
Because I didn't I didn't seethat.
What an fancy.

SPEAKER_03 (36:49):
So this is Will from Houston.
Didn't realize Ben was aviolinist.
I'm a classically trained doublebassist, so caught my caught my
attention.
Great great out of sequenceepisode.
Oh, I'm dude, I'm so out ofpractice.
I would have to I would have itwould not sound good right now.

SPEAKER_01 (37:07):
Yeah, okay.
All right, fair enough.
I and I I'll definitely say thesame thing for myself and the
accordion.
It's been a long time.

SPEAKER_03 (37:13):
I'm getting my piano looked at tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 (37:15):
Oh, yeah?

SPEAKER_03 (37:16):
That's good.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (37:17):
I've got an old piano that uh has some issues,
so yeah, and I I've got uhelectronic keyboard piano thing,
whatever it's got weighted keysand everything, but I it's got
about a half an inch of dust onit because you know I let my
cleaning lady go, so I I've justkind of let it get accumulated

(37:38):
with dust since I haven't beenplaying.
But in theory, I I could just goback and start playing on the
piano anytime I want to.

SPEAKER_03 (37:48):
Well, I am not a pianist, but have it for the
kids, so hopefully we can getthe one dead key fixed, the
keyboard fixed up, and it tuneda little bit.
But it's an the problem with oldpianos is they get to a certain
point where they can't be tunedanymore.
So we'll see.

SPEAKER_01 (38:05):
If you replace the strings, I can.

SPEAKER_03 (38:07):
No, no, no, no.
Because of the cast iron, youknow, whether or not you can
move parts and stuff, it's youknow, you mean the parts get
stuck?
Basically, yes.

SPEAKER_01 (38:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, my dad was a piano tuneras a side hustle.
Uh-huh.
And he back in the 70s, hecreated a little analog device
that helped them, you know,measure pitch so you could tune
faster.
Nowadays, you could buy thosethings for 40 bucks for your
guitar or piano or anything elsethat'll literally just tell you

(38:39):
to keep moving with a yellow,green, red light.
And then as soon as you get toright where you should be, the
green light pops on and you stoptwisting the dial.
In fact, I saw an auto-tuner fora guitar in the video, which you
basically connect up to yourneck of your guitar, or you, you
know, so it's over the knobs,and it will auto-twist the knobs

(39:03):
back and forth until itcompletely finds the right
position for them.

SPEAKER_03 (39:07):
Well, it is one I have was given to us, it was
free.
So, you know, it's from the1940s during World War II.
It's one of the mirror pianosthat they redid.
So we'll see.

SPEAKER_01 (39:20):
Well, hopefully they can get it fully functioning.
Is it a key in the middle of thekeyboard that's dead?

SPEAKER_03 (39:26):
Towards the top end.

SPEAKER_01 (39:28):
Okay.

unknown (39:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (39:29):
It's just one dead key, and then some of the keys
have delaminated a little bit.
So that should be able to befixed.

SPEAKER_01 (39:36):
The question is, can it have actual ivory the ivory
keys?
Uh good god, I hope not.
Why?

SPEAKER_03 (39:44):
Because then you can't do shit.

SPEAKER_01 (39:47):
You could probably buy a key off a different piano,
a dead one.

SPEAKER_03 (39:50):
No, no, no, no.
The with ivory keyboard, all youcan do is replace the entire
keyboard.

SPEAKER_01 (39:55):
What?

SPEAKER_03 (39:56):
Yep, because of the ivory laws.

SPEAKER_01 (39:58):
Well, I know you can't kill the new dudes and
stuff, but you can you should beable to use old parts.
I can do that.

SPEAKER_03 (40:05):
I'm just telling you what I've been told.

SPEAKER_01 (40:07):
Really?
That seems stupid.
Why would you not be able to useivory to fix an ivory?
I mean, it's not like you'rekilling another elephant.

SPEAKER_03 (40:17):
Because you gotta prove its age and stuff.
So anyway, hopefully he can justrelaminate the and hopefully
it's not ivory.

SPEAKER_01 (40:27):
Was there a ban on ebony too?
There should be.
It probably is like a tree thatalmost doesn't exist anymore
because it's been over overcut.

SPEAKER_03 (40:39):
You know what my favorite my favorite wood from
an aesthetic is?

SPEAKER_01 (40:44):
What's that?
Walnut?

SPEAKER_03 (40:46):
Honduranian mahogany.

SPEAKER_01 (40:47):
Mahogany, yeah, mahogany is very pretty.

SPEAKER_03 (40:50):
Yeah.
Well that's pretty the fire, thethe the mantle over my parents'
fireplace.
That's a piece of mahogany thatwas originally going to be one
of the spine pieces in theCaptain Ben.

SPEAKER_01 (41:05):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (41:06):
Yeah, which was my dad's shrimp boat.

SPEAKER_01 (41:09):
Yeah.
Yeah, your dad uh didn't didquite a bit of woodwork himself
that I saw in this house.

SPEAKER_03 (41:18):
Oh yeah, and that fireplace, they built that
fireplace.

SPEAKER_01 (41:21):
Yep, yeah.
Yeah, he said that.
Yeah, it's very cool.
I mean, like I think I mentionedto you before, like it's still
kind of sad that like his boatexperience clearly he still has
some feelings for because youknow, I asked him, Oh, do you do
you have pictures of your boat?
And he's got I have one.

unknown (41:42):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (41:43):
Like, oh okay.
I'm not gonna push that topic.

SPEAKER_03 (41:46):
It was a pretty emotional thing.
Like, yeah, when so when theboat sank, it was 1985, uh 1984,
actually.
Like, I remember my dad, he youknow, he was he's a diver, and
he went out and he was doing therecovery dive, which we he could
have just left it, right?
He could have just walked awayand left it and made the

(42:09):
taxpayers pay for raising thevessel.
Yeah, but he went out there, didthe dives, got the pumps in, put
the bags in himself, and raisedthe vessel.
So, and we ended up selling thehull, what was left of it.
Oh, you got some money for itstill.
Yo, dude, that that was a hugeloss, though.
The Coast Guard hit us for a$500,000 oil spill fine.

SPEAKER_01 (42:31):
Oh my god, holy shit.
That's for just uh the oil thatwas or the the gas tank.

SPEAKER_03 (42:36):
Yeah, the diesel.

SPEAKER_01 (42:37):
That's a lot of money, man.

SPEAKER_03 (42:39):
Yep, and then you know, loss of the electronics.
Electronics were a ton, loss ofrevenue from the season.
It was extremely, extremelyexpensive for my family.
And you know, we went frompretty uh comfortable upper
middle class to Poe.

SPEAKER_01 (42:57):
Yep.
Yep.
Couldn't even afford school,your mom had to teach you.

SPEAKER_03 (43:04):
Well, they were doing that beforehand, but I
know it's a joke.
The the no, it was funny becauseI remember when we moved to
Idaho and we were building thehouse, you know, we moved in
right after we got it dried in,so we had sheets for walls,
internal walls.
Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 (43:20):
Yeah.
Yeah, but you know what, thosekinds of experiences when you're
young actually are very good foryou.
Mm-hmm.
I kind of count the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 (43:31):
Now there's optimal deep deprivation, right?

SPEAKER_01 (43:33):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, and I I count the samething for my uh moving from
Russia to the US, you know,starting basically from scratch
in the US, like I had onesuitcase.
All the possessions I had as akid were in one suitcase.
It it kind of it makes you lesssusceptible to a lot of things

(43:55):
that other kids your age aregonna be very emotional about
because you've already gonethrough a traumatic experience.

SPEAKER_03 (44:07):
Yeah, I think there's also you know, we were
poor and everything, but Ididn't really know it.
Yeah.
We always had food.
We all, you know, my parentsstruggled for a while, but yeah,
they recovered.

SPEAKER_01 (44:21):
Yeah, I'd I would say the exact same thing.
I think it's it's one of thosethings where when you don't
realize that you're poor, and Ithe thing that helped me not
realize that that we were poorwas because obviously we were
even more poor in Russia.

SPEAKER_03 (44:38):
So I mean communism has a habit of the city.

SPEAKER_01 (44:42):
Yeah, unless you're one of the one percent who
actually runs the politics,everybody else, even if you're
like a brilliant in your field,i everybody else pretty much
poor.
You know, my parents didn't havea car.
The I don't think any of myrelatives had a car.
I I know there was a guy wholived in our building that had a

(45:05):
car.
Like maybe one guy in our entireapartment building had a car.
Everybody else just walked andtook public transit.
So it it was the idea that everyfamily has their own car in the
US just seemed crazy.

(45:25):
Like, holy shit, everything was.
No, no, no.
And the and the cars, if peoplehaven't seen like Soviet-era
Russian cars, they're basicallyall copies of Fiat or of uh

(45:46):
goddamn, what's it was the otherGerman car company, not BMW and
not Mercedes.
But they there used to be onepre-World War II.
But basically, it was just likethat's all they did in Russia,
is just copy that design and uhcopy the Italian design.
So both of those were basicallypost-World War II victory

(46:07):
relics.
They they they they were able toplunder the factories that made
them and bring the entirefactories to Russia and then
make very crappy clones of them.
So not at all.

SPEAKER_03 (46:26):
Russia tried to do crappy clones of lots of things.

SPEAKER_01 (46:28):
So they did, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (46:30):
Although I I think the space shuttle.

SPEAKER_01 (46:32):
No, I knew you were going there.
I totally disagree on that.
I think the Russian spaceshuttle was actually better.
It was an improvement becausehow can you possibly say that?
I can I can say that very easilybecause the Russian space
shuttle didn't have 50 statesthat all needed to have
factories making parts for it.
It wasn't a uh this thiscompletely ridiculous, bloated

(46:56):
thing that we had in the US.
If if you haven't watched somevideos on the history, I don't
mean you, I mean other people,on the history of the space
shuttle to see what a absolutelygenius, beautiful project it
started off as, and whatgod-awful pork-filled project it
ended up by the time the firstshuttle was actually built.

(47:18):
Like the shuttle would have beenan absolutely masterpiece, and
what we got was something thatbarely flew, and we were lucky
it didn't kill a lot more peoplethan it did, frankly.

SPEAKER_03 (47:33):
I will say this.

SPEAKER_01 (47:34):
Um watch some history movies, dude.

SPEAKER_03 (47:36):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I will say this.
I've been working with somespaceports and authorities
lately.
In fact, I was on the call thismorning with one out of
Virginia, and it's gonna beinteresting to see what ends up
actually coming to fruition herein the next 50 years.

SPEAKER_01 (47:56):
Yeah, well, my prediction is there'll be only
one space company.

SPEAKER_03 (48:01):
Why?

SPEAKER_01 (48:02):
Because SpaceX is just killing it, they're doing
stuff nobody else is like nobodyin the entire world.
Okay, and it's gonna take awhile for the Chinese to copy
stuff.
But like Esau, the EuropeanSpace Agency, is basically dead.

SPEAKER_03 (48:19):
Right, but we have states building spaceports that
they want to use forpoint-to-point travel and they
want to like exactly it's prettyinteresting.
Like Houston has one that we'veworked on.
Virginia was on with theVirginia Space Authority today.
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (48:37):
Yeah, and that's very cool.
And I think we will have a lotmore of those.
Remember, one of Musk's sort ofvisions for Starship is not as a
space vehicle, but as simply areplacement, a much faster
replacement for super jets forfor the like 747-sized jets.

(48:59):
Yep.
It's it's basically, hey, do youwant to go from here to London
in an hour and a half?
Like from Houston to London inan hour and a half?
We can do that using asuborbital of flight of
Starship.

SPEAKER_03 (49:14):
But do you think it's ever gonna be economically
viable?
Well, like how much does thatticket cost?

SPEAKER_01 (49:21):
Well, that's the thing.
Do you do you remember theConcord?
I unfortunately blew my chance.
I had a chance to fly in it, andI I went for comfort instead of
a once-in-the-life opportunity,and I was an idiot.
But the because the Concorde isnotoriously uncomfortable,
especially for fat guys.
And so I I chose to instead flyin first class.

(49:44):
But the Concorde was ticket wasuh ten thousand dollars.
This is back like late 90s, soit would have been what a little
over 25 years ago.
So in today's money, that'sprobably equivalent to about
$22,000,$24,000, right aroundthere.
And so could Musk sell$25,000tickets on Starship that'll take

(50:10):
100 people from Houston toLondon in uh just over an hour?
I think he could.
In fact, I bet you for the firstfew flights he could sell them
for a hundred thousand andthey'd be full.

SPEAKER_03 (50:24):
I don't know.
I'm pretty skeptical.
I mean, how many people do youthink have a hundred thousand
dollars for a one-time trip?
That I know, probably a hundred.
You've got some wealthy friends,man.

SPEAKER_01 (50:35):
I got a lot of wealthy friends.
I know.
Doesn't help me because I'm nota moocher, but no, I know a lot.
I mean, I don't wantbillionaire, but I know a lot of
millionaires.

SPEAKER_03 (50:50):
Okay.
Well, what else we got to do?

SPEAKER_01 (50:52):
We shared the same caviar guy.
Uh just.

SPEAKER_03 (50:57):
Oh, Jesus, the joke's old.
I know, it really is.
So are you gonna put any for putforth any mixes for an agenda?
Now that Adam's opened it up.

SPEAKER_01 (51:08):
I uh I I should.
I should.
I'm not gonna just rush to dosomething.
I wanna if I'm gonna do it, Iwanna do something that that I'm
proud of.
Alright.
So and I've been kind of stucknow lately on this whole uh
biblical music kick.
So we'll see how long that lastsbefore I want to take a break
and do something different.

(51:31):
But so far I'm the music toAdam.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I saw I sent it to him.
He you know, he said it kind ofsounded a little bit too much
like Peter, Paul, and Mary.
Or Mary, Paul, and Peter, Idon't know, whatever that band
in the 70s was.
Peter Mary.
Peter, Paul, and Mary, I think.
And I listened to it, and Ithink he's right.

(51:52):
I did listen to a couple oftheir recordings.
They're not religious, but thesound is fairly similar.
But I would think that'd be acompliment.
Uh, you know, I didn't take itas one.
I don't know.
Most of the music in the 70s waspretty damn good.
Yeah, people say that.
I I like 80s music better, butyeah.

SPEAKER_03 (52:12):
You know, like Roger Bob Seeger, the Moody Blues.
Come on, man.

SPEAKER_01 (52:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (52:21):
Pink Floyd, Janice Joplin, Pink.

SPEAKER_01 (52:24):
Definitely not.
Janice Japlin sucked.
There, there's nothing.
Oh my god, no.
It's stupid screaming music.
It's dumb, it's always beendumb.

SPEAKER_03 (52:32):
So, do you not like Joe Cocker?

SPEAKER_01 (52:34):
No, not really.
With a little help from myfriends?

SPEAKER_03 (52:37):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 (52:39):
No, no, it's I I think the advent of electronic
music really just brought musicforward tremendously because
people were kind of gettingstuck in music, and they only
things they could come up withto do is distortion.
I'm not a fan of distortion.

SPEAKER_03 (53:01):
So you didn't like Jimi Hendrix?

SPEAKER_01 (53:04):
No, no, not at all.
I'm not saying the guy didn'thave talent.
Just not my style of music.
I like Prince a lot more thanJimi Hendrix.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
And Prince, I was a name, I wasPrince's neighbor.
And we shopped at the grocerystore at the same time back in
the day.

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He's a short guy.
Now you talk about short man.
He was short.

SPEAKER_03 (53:33):
By the way, did you see the guy that got stuck in
the uh water slide?

SPEAKER_01 (53:37):
No.
Didn't see that video.
What was that?

SPEAKER_03 (53:40):
Fat guy on a cruise ship.
It's got a cruise ship.
I don't know, but I I hope it'snot because it was hilarious.
They're having to take the waterslide apart around him.
Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 (53:52):
Oh no.
Did they not have a maximumweight limit sign or anything?

SPEAKER_03 (53:58):
Apparently not.

SPEAKER_01 (54:01):
Yeah, that's they they probably should.
They'll probably add one in thefuture.

SPEAKER_03 (54:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (54:07):
Yeah, it's it's it's only funny if it's not you.

SPEAKER_03 (54:14):
No, I mean, even if it happened to you, you'd have
to laugh at yourself at somepoint.

SPEAKER_01 (54:19):
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
But there's uh there's videos ofa lot of pets getting stuck like
that.
Because pets are notparticularly good like dogs and
cats, are not particularly goodat estimating the diameters of
objects, like pipes.
The number of cats that havegotten stuck in pipes is

(54:40):
ridiculous.
Because they think they can goin and then they don't realize
they can't back out.
You gotta take the uh the gutterdown because your cat decided to
stick its head and half its bodyinto it and is now stuck.
So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (55:01):
Yeah, so according to Google, it's real.
But it's real.
Oh the video, the video, yeah,yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (55:09):
Speaking of real, have you seen the videos of the
spaceship?
I mean the asteroid that ismeteor that is heading towards
Earth.

SPEAKER_03 (55:19):
Some, yes.

SPEAKER_01 (55:20):
What is the the the L1i or whatever, L3i?

SPEAKER_03 (55:24):
That's coming in at an odd angle.

SPEAKER_01 (55:26):
With a bunch of lights on it.
Okay.
And it it's interesting.
Well, I'm I'm having funtrolling people saying I don't
understand what you see here.
It just looks like a rock to me.

SPEAKER_03 (55:38):
Well, I mean, okay.
I mean if it was announcedtomorrow that it is an alien
spaceship, I would go Psyup.
So I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (55:49):
Yeah, yeah.
And I think if it landed andthey came out of it, you'd
probably still say Psyup.

SPEAKER_03 (55:55):
Yeah, it'd say Project Bluebeam.
What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 (55:58):
It's a fake spaceship.
There is no space.
You all know that space is alie.

SPEAKER_03 (56:05):
Of course.
That's just the firmament.

SPEAKER_01 (56:08):
It's just the firmament.
Exactly.
That's what Adam always says,yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (56:12):
No, I believe in space.

SPEAKER_01 (56:14):
Yeah?

SPEAKER_03 (56:15):
Yeah, I do.
I I I doubt certain things thatwe've done, and there's some
technology.

SPEAKER_01 (56:20):
Well, you can meet both on that.
Yeah.
And for me, like going to theHouston Museum of Space, or
whatever it's called there, thebasically, you know, where they
developed the Apollo program.
And looking at the rocket partsand all the history there, it
just more and more reinforced inme that Stanley Kubrick was an

(56:45):
absolutely brilliantcinematographer.
Yeah.
Interesting stuff.
And you know, we've had rockets.
We've had plenty of rockets.
The issue isn't talking aboutcan we go to space?
We went to space.
We even did the was it a Geminiflight or which flight was it?

(57:07):
Mercury flight that uh no, Ithink it was Gemini.
That where we did a a rendezvousmission with the Russian ship.
So the there was a Russiancosmonaut and uh American
astronaut that met in space.
You know, all that stuffhappened, I think.
Obviously, we've got the spacestation up there right now.

(57:27):
Uh the American one's totallyreal.
The Chinese one, eh, not somuch.
Because they seem to have againnow?
They seem to have gravity.
What, the Chinese space station?
Have you seen it?

SPEAKER_03 (57:39):
I'm aware of it, but what are the why does it seem
fake?

SPEAKER_01 (57:42):
Because there are videos of the astronauts
floating in the Chinese spacestation and accidentally they'll
drop something and it falls tothe floor.
Okay.
That's interesting.
That's like the Americans do abetter job than that with green
screen.
Just saying.

SPEAKER_03 (58:01):
So you don't believe in the space station?

SPEAKER_01 (58:04):
No, no, no.
We have a space station.
I totally believe in the spacestation.
I've talked to people that haveworked on the space station.

SPEAKER_03 (58:12):
Yeah, I I've I have a shirt from ISS from an
engineer that was part of it.
The program.

SPEAKER_01 (58:18):
Yeah.
And I know I personally knowguys that were spatial
engineers.
I know guy uh two guys that werein NASA, one guy that was in
Martin Mary.

SPEAKER_03 (58:26):
Let's be honest.
Low orbit like that is not hard.

SPEAKER_01 (58:28):
It's not hard.
I could do that tomorrow if Iwanted to.
Not a problem.
But when it comes to, and infact, I've got video of doing
that in a simulator.
I've designed rockets that'll gothat there and then come back,
and it's like literallydocumented in the simulator.
And the simulator is just asgood as the real thing.
So that's all totally doable.

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There are two other questionsbesides have we been to space.
And the first question is of thevideos that we've seen, were all
of them actually shot in space?
And that's a harder answer.
No, but some of them have been.
Some of them, yes.
Some of them, maybe not.
And then the other question issurrounding the landing on the

(59:10):
moon.
Now, we can totally go to space.
I don't think that'scontroversial.
Can we go around the moon?
Can we plot and chart a path tothe moon?
Yeah, we've demonstrated that bysending ships a lot further than
the moon.
Can we bring a ship back fromthere?
Yeah, we I think we can.
I think it's certainly doable.

(59:32):
We we've seen plenty of missionsthat have come back and brought
something back.
But can we do a mission to themoon with three humans that
lands on the moon for the firsttime and then takes off again?
And no one dies in this entiremission, and it comes back

(59:56):
safely to Earth the first timewe do it.
I think that's a stretch.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:05):
Well, I mean, we did lots of things where we were
setting up, you know, and theyou know, the before Apollo 11,
supposedly they went to theYeah, we had 10 other Apollo's.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:14):
I get it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:15):
So there was there was a lot of testing involved.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:19):
And Apollo 10 was supposed to have landed on the
moon.
They but they aborted beforeactually doing it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:27):
Yeah, but the the question really becomes you
know, is you know, Van Allenradiation belt, all that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:36):
I don't think that's an issue.
I think the Van Allen radiationbelt is mostly talked about by
people that don't actuallyunderstand radiation.
Because you can absolutely gothrough it.
The Van Allen radiation belt isabout equivalent to getting
three x-rays.
Is it something you should doevery every year even?

(01:00:56):
Probably not.
But is it something you could doif you break your leg and they
want to x-ray it multiple times?
Yeah.
And unless you're gonna do itduring a solar storm, uh that's
really about all the radiationyou're gonna deal with.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:12):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:12):
Well, uh so what what uh what do you doubt about
the official story then?

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:19):
Well, it's here's what I doubt.
What we didn't do is we didn'tland something on the moon that
was exactly the same mass, andthis everything was the same
without humans, which is how wewould do it now, right?
We would do a a mission withoutany lives, without any humans
aboard.

(01:01:39):
We would land there, we wouldtake off from there, we would
essentially do the whole missionwithout people first.
And if something didn't work, asyou saw with the the problems
that Boeing had on theircapsules, then we fix those
things before we put humans onthere.

(01:02:01):
And like, you know, Gagarin, thefirst man in space?
Not actually the first man inspace.
Gagarin was the first man inspace who survived the landing.
Because before him, there weretwo other guys that went into
space.
Supposedly.
Yeah.
Actually, that never made itback, and therefore they were

(01:02:23):
never publicized because itwould be worse for the
government in Russia to admitthat they failed at something
than it would be to say thatthey kind of did it, but then
didn't really.
So they waited until they hadsomebody that both was sent up
and came back and then announcedhim as the first man in space.
Uh, there have been numerousanimals that have died aboard

(01:02:46):
various space things.
And I think probably in bothcountries, for sure in Russia,
but I think also in the US,there were quite a few animals
back then, chimps, dogs thatwere sent up to test what it
would be like for humans to bein space, but nobody ever
brought these animals back.
So I think that the likelihood,like you can plan the route and

(01:03:11):
you can fly the route multipletimes to the moon and back.
That, like, that's amathematical calculation.
You can do that, and then youhave to make sure you've got
sufficient fuel, obviously, thatyour timing is good on that
route.
But the part that was nevertested was the landing on the
moon and then taking back off ofthe moon, taking uh going back

(01:03:35):
up from the moon, and thenjoining up to transfer the crew
from the lunar module to thelander or to the uh the capsule
and then flying back.
Like that's the bit I have ahard time seeing actually
happened the first time theytried it.

(01:03:56):
Because you'd have to get allyour calculations to be exactly
right.
So either in my mind, thescenario is either we have
attempted this in the UnitedStates as well, and maybe Apollo
10 did attempt a landing, but itwas unsuccessful, and it was
covered up as though we neverattempted it or something, or

(01:04:16):
nine or whichever Apollo.
You know, we may have Apolloastronauts that died that we
covered up as well, that nobodythat everybody that was part of
the program basically swore tonever reveal for national
security reasons, because that'susually the excuse for
everything.
And the and so my if I'm gonnago with a conspiracy theory, my

(01:04:40):
theory has been, and again, thisis not something I can.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:42):
What about the theory that we landed
afterwards?

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:45):
Yeah, that that's exactly, right?
So my theory is that the Apollocrew, Apollo 11, shot all the
footage that was actually shownto people of the the landing on
the moon, the experiments on themoon, and the trip back up from

(01:05:05):
the moon, uh, that that all ofit was actually shot on Earth.
And so that was the video thatwas shown as the success of
Apollo 11.
And I think I think that theykept doing more of these
experiments to try and get us toactually go to the moon, and I

(01:05:27):
think probably by Apollo 14, weactually did go to the moon.
But I don't think that ithappened when they say it
happened.
I think it was a lot morelikely, and not to mention the
fact that the footage was lost,the video that was rebroadcast
was seen all over the world, andthe rebroadcast happened from

(01:05:50):
Australia, and the Australianstudio had the video footage,
but then they they also lost it.
Like, there's too manycoincidences of things
disappearing that could provefor sure whether or not this
happened.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:05):
Well, you know it could really prove it.
We could go back and see ifArmstrong's fingerprints are
there.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:14):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:14):
We have fingerprints, footprints.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:17):
Yeah.
I mean, what we do know is thereis we do know that there's a
flag on the moon.
We do know that there's a verymuch how do we know that?
I've seen it with you know thatall you need is a telescope for
that.
That's not hard to see.
So you can have a telescope.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's visible.

(01:06:37):
You just need enoughmagnification.
We know we have the buggy upthere because it's totally dust
covered at this point, but it'sup there.
We we can see it, we can see theshadows from it.
We can see a lander.
In fact, I think there's threelander modules that we can see
on the moon.
So we can see that stuff.

(01:06:58):
My contention isn't that we'venever been to the moon.
My contention is simply that wewere not shown actual video when
it was announced that we went tothe moon.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:11):
I mean, I can agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:13):
And I also say I can't prove that.
That's just a theory.
That's it's my theory, and it Ithink it's a theory that makes a
lot of logical sense, but Icould never prove that that crew
never went to the moon.
But there are a couple of videosout there that I've seen of I
think one was of Buzz, and theother one was of God, I forget

(01:07:37):
the guy's name, the poor guythat had to stay in the uh
lander or sorry, in the uhcapsule.
Yeah, the command module in thecapsule that never got to go to
the moon, talking about like intheir 70s, when somebody asked,
and and they they would saysomething like, Well, you know,
we would we wouldn't really knowthat because that's something

(01:07:59):
you'd have to go there to know.
Like answering questions thatmake you go, huh?
What?
What do you mean?
I thought I thought you werethere.
So I think these guys, remember,they were all military, all
these guys were military at thetime, Air Force.
And so they, as part of beingchosen for the program, they

(01:08:21):
were sworn in that here's what'sgonna happen.
If any of y'all die, we're notgonna say you died when you
died.
If we if we say that you wentsomewhere, even if you didn't go
there, you're gonna agree andsay, Yes, we went there.
You know, like they were givenlines of what the expectation is
for them.

(01:08:42):
And I think they were allpatriots, and I think they were
going to stick to those lines,you know, for national national
pride, national security,whatever you want to call it,
because you you can't let thecommies win.
And they were willing to dothat.
So whether Neil Armstrong everactually set foot on the moon, I

(01:09:04):
think is still a question.
Did we end up with some shipslanding on the moon?
Yes.
Was there somebody that thatmade other footsteps there?
I think it's possible.
I don't know.
I I again I can't say with 100%certainty that anybody would
technically land on the moon.
We know that equipment landed onthe moon.

(01:09:27):
And we can see a flag on themoon, but that's as far as I'm
willing to go.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:31):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:33):
Well, you know, hopefully maybe sometime in my
lifetime we'll actually.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:38):
Yeah, it would be it would be very different watching
a real HD feed coming fromSpaceX in multiple camera angles
of its American first of themoon landing on the moon.
Now, the other, of course,conspiracy theory is that when
we get there, we're gonna see abunch of Chinese houses that are
already built at the locationthat we're planning on landing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:01):
Nah, Nazis.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:02):
Yeah, well, Nazis on the moon is the classic, yes.
The in the moon, not just on themoon.
The Nazis that have been mininghelium 3 on the moon for 50
years now.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:17):
The the the that whatever B rate movie it was.
Yeah, I think that's the name ofit.
Oh, it's so ugly hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:24):
Yeah, it was Iron Sky.
Iron Sky, yep.
Yeah, it's a classic.
The second one is very cheesy.
They made a second one, but theyou know, it was a crowdsourced
movie, like they literally had aa funding thing for it to
crowdsource it, the making ofthe movie.
I did not know that.
Yeah, cool.
But it was it was a classic, andone of my favorite songs in that

(01:10:47):
movie when the blonde chickcharacter is talking to the
president and talking, you know,giving her passionate speech
that the president should sayabout you know, we are the the
combined product of the dreamsof our fathers and the you know,
or the work of our fathers andthe dreams of our mothers, and

(01:11:08):
but it's very it's super Hitlerish, but it's beautiful, it's
absolutely beautiful.
I I love I watched but what doesthat say, Gene?
What does that say?
That good speech can make peopleyou know agree with it
regardless of what the thesubject is.
Absolutely.
If you you have great building,passionate music behind them,

(01:11:31):
little Wagner, and then you'veyou've got a good orator.
Have you heard Hitler speak likepersonally?

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:39):
I've I don't speak German, so no, but have you
heard Hitler speak?

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:43):
Like when not when he's giving a speech.
Yeah, the guy sounds totallynormal.
There, there's nothing yelly orshouty, as CSB would say, about
him.
I've I've watched uh some homemovies of Hitler's, and you
know, he's just sitting theredrinking tea, reading a book,
and talking in a quiet, nicevoice, and being nice to his
daughter, yeah, just being nicein general.

(01:12:05):
You know, it like he clearly wasfigured out how to motivate
people by playing this characterthat Charlie Chaplin created and
then got people roused up.
But that that that's not to saythat that's actually how he
talked in real life.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:29):
Well, you know, I think everybody oughta read you
know Meinkampf and everythingelse, just uh definitely banned
from the agenda stream.
Well, no, I mean you should knowwhat people said.
Like, don't just don't takepeople's word for it.
You know, like read theCommunist Manifesto.
Is it a bad idea?

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:50):
Yes.
I mean, it's it's a long read,man.
That book is not an easy read.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:54):
Oh, please.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:55):
What's Capital?
Yeah, it's not no.
Are you kidding?
That that book is difficult formost people.
It's a philosophical what ifscenario with a whole bunch of
German uh what do you call them?

(01:13:16):
Oh, there's a word for it.
Basically peculiarities, Germanpeculiarities thrown in.
I don't I don't think it's aneasy book to read, dude.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:26):
I I I find stuff like that way easier to read
than like Peterson's maps ofmeaning.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:34):
Oh yeah, yeah.
I Peterson is not the mostexciting, enticing writer.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:43):
No, I would say that he's very good.
It's just that you know, likemaps of meaning is fucking deep,
dude.
And then We Who Wrestle With Godwas the next one that was really
hard.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:56):
Yeah, I haven't read that one.
How was that one?

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:58):
It's good.
You should read it.
Like, especially if you're goingto be a good one.
I own it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:01):
I bought it when it came out.
I just haven't read it.
You you it's you should read it.
It's very good.
Yeah.
Yeah, get around to it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:13):
Uh-huh.
Sure.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:14):
Is there anything else?
Uh, I'm trying to think of whatother things have come up.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:21):
Uh, let's see.
We talked about the White House.
Yeah.
We talked about Ireland.
Let's see if there's anythingelse.
Oh, they're talking aboutarresting ice agents.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:35):
For what?

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:39):
Whatever they can.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:40):
Like, oh, you mean like California or somebody?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, good luck on that.
I mean, it's and I I knowthere's gonna be people that are
all like states rights, statesrights.
Like, ICE agents are enforcingfederal law, okay?
So states like the the extent ofstates' rights is you don't have

(01:15:03):
to help them.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:06):
Agreed.
And like Ben and I were talkingthat I added to our little group
chat.
He and I were talking, and wewere talking about the Glock
stuff and everything, and he'slike, Yeah, sucks that these
states, and I'm like, Well,yeah, but it's also states'
rights, right?
We just need to get rid of theATF and federal enforcement and
let the shitty states be shittystates.
Like California California.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:29):
That's an equitable trademan.
I will take that trade.
Get rid of the ATF and letCalifornia just ban guns
altogether.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:35):
Sure.
And I will never go toCalifornia.
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (01:15:41):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:44):
I think that's fair.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:46):
Yeah.
So the Harvard Dean calledpolice racist and evil.
Okay.
Didn't care if Trump died in oldposts.
So there's controversy atHarvard.
Which, you know, as far as I'mconcerned, why the hell is
Harvard ever getting.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:05):
They they've got so much endowment money, they don't
need any.
Although maybe they don't haveas much endowment money because
they pissed off all the Jews.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:14):
Maybe.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:15):
And you know, it's one thing about Jewish
endowments, is there's always atake back.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:20):
Yeah, so we haven't talked to Ukraine in a while.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:22):
And it looks like I don't even know what that is
anymore.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:25):
Well, it looks like Trump is putting the squeeze on
Putin right now.

unknown (01:16:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:30):
Whatever.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:32):
I don't know.
You heard him talking abouttomahawks, dude.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:36):
Yeah, that's fine.
They want to test more weapons,that's fine.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:41):
Yeah.
I don't think the Russian airdefense is ready for tomahawks.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:44):
It doesn't matter.
If the Russian defense isn'tready and they take out
something that's actuallyvaluable inside of Russia, then
Kyiv is gonna burn.
Congratulations, America.
Why would I care?
Yeah, exactly.
Nobody cares.
Now it's it is the designatedtesting area for military shit.

(01:17:10):
And as Lindsey Graham said, wewill fight Russia until the last
Ukrainian.
There's still a few Ukrainiansleft.
So I I think it's a big nothingburger for two reasons.
One is Trump knows full wellthat Putin is the most moderate

(01:17:32):
liberal guy in Russiangovernment.
That if Putin goes, the next guywill just not hesitate to
flatten all of Ukraine.

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:48):
So it How long do you think the shutdown's gonna
continue for?

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:51):
Oh God, I can only hope a whole year.
When is the Congress back?
When are they officially back?

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:00):
But you know what?
What we should do is take theopportunity to privatize airport
security.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:08):
Air traffic controllers, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:10):
I know that I need to finish doing the the
copyrights on the music beforethe end of the month because the
the Department of Trademarks andCopyrights, that office shuts
down at the end of the month.
Like they had funding throughthe end of the month.

(01:18:30):
USPTO, I guess.
So I just don't think it's thatbig a deal.
Like most people, unless you'regetting money from the
government, which I I guessthere's too many people getting
that right now.
But if you're not getting moneyfrom the government, what do you
care if it shuts down?

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:50):
I think it hasn't affected any of my projects.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:53):
Yeah.
Yeah, and you you're certainlymore closely related to that
than you know other companies.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:00):
All I can say is the defense contractors are spinning
like there's no tomorrow, andyou know that it'll be there.
We're doing a bid right now on arocket manufacturing facility in
Virginia, and think HiMars,think Patriot.
Yeah, and they're wanting itoperational by 2027.
Of course, they do a brand newbuild.

(01:19:21):
Yeah, like do you have any idea?
56 buildings.
Do you have any idea how howmassive of an effort that that's
going to be?

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:30):
Like my group's portion of the control system
integration and cybersecuritywill be eight figures.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:36):
Yeah.
I believe it.
That's amazing they're doingthat with a billion-dollar
facility.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:41):
Half a billion-dollar facility.
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (01:19:44):
Yeah, and they're doing it because they've already
got the government contractsecured.
Yep.
So I think that this is thesecond half of why Trump isn't
doing anything, why he's justletting the war go on.
Because it's what I said to myCatholic buddy today.
It's like, you know, whatbecause we he asked about the
same topic.

(01:20:04):
I said, look, Trump can end thewar tomorrow.
He could have ended the war,like he said originally, in 24
hours after becoming president.
All he has to do is stop sendingthe money.
That war would be over that sameweek.
Ukraine would surrender, Russiawould accept that surrender, and

(01:20:27):
now you can get to terms ofnegotiation for the post-war
version of Ukraine.
And that's it.
And you're done.
The whole thing's over.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:39):
And here's the thing.
We might get that because Ithink that I think Trump is
really looking at the Neo Monroedoctrine.
I think we're focusing here.
I think you know Zayan even putout a video talking about are we
going to invade Argentina?
How would that work?
What would happen?
Like, it's a thing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:01):
Did you say Zahan or Zahan?

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:03):
Zayan.
Peter Zahan.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:05):
The New York mayor?
No.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:08):
Peter Zahan.
Peter Zahan Zahan.
Zaehan's ohan.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:10):
Zaehan is the Muslim guy in New York.
Yeah, Zahan remember.
Zohan is the the guy who's wrongabout China.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:18):
Yeah.
Well, anyway.
It was interesting that he wouldchoose to put out such a thing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:24):
And what is his conclusion?

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:27):
That taking Caracas would be very difficult because
of geography.
I have Which I don't think he'scorrect, but.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:36):
I've my only this is going to be funny to admit, but
my only knowledge of thegeography of Caracas is from the
movie Romancing the Stones.
I have no idea what movie thatis.
It was a movie that came out inthe 80s with Michael Douglas as
the main hero protagonist abouta woman romance writer who

(01:22:02):
decides to take a vacation toColombia and doesn't realize all
the danger involved.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:12):
Yeah.
So since we're already gonna bebanned, click on the link I just
sent you.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:18):
Oh my god.
Explain that to me.

SPEAKER_04 (01:22:23):
I can't.
Women are nuts.
So there's these women inbathing suits with a hot dog
tied on a string trying to flipit up and into their mouth and
failing.
And it is hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:36):
I don't know that anyone could do that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:22:40):
That is nuts.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:42):
That is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:44):
Yeah, I yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:46):
Well, leave it to Ben to send stuff that has
nothing to do with anything andjust has half naked chicks in
there.
Hey, I like what I like.
I know.
I know what you like.
Exactly.
I know what else I can mention.
I I listened to a new scene.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:04):
Have you ever watched any of the Atlas show
the Atlas Bunkers videos?
Atlas Munker?
Bunker.
Bunker.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:12):
Atlas Bunker?
I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:14):
Oh, dude, you gotta go watch some of these Atlas
Bunker videos of them installingthese Doomsday Bunkers.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:20):
Oh, Doomsday Bunker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you're talking about peoplethat have bought the uh empty uh
saddles?

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:26):
No, these people who are building new houses and
stuff and burying these massivebunkers underneath them.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:33):
Oh, okay.
I've seen some of that stuff onYouTube, but I I that name
doesn't ring a bell.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:39):
Well, the these guys just put in like a half a half
500 like half a million dollarbunker that was like 2600 square
feet underneath this guy'shouse.
And to get they had to do it inmultiple pieces, it's really
cool to watch.

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:54):
That's cool.
Do you think they're moresymbolic and just kind of a man
cave than anything?

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:00):
Uh fuck no.
If I ever build a home and havethe money, I'll put something
in.
Not that elaborate, butsomething.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:07):
My my from what I saw, here's my problem with
these things is that they lookneat and they certainly make you
more quote unquote prepared thanyour neighbor.
However, I don't think anysingle one of them would survive
a nuclear blast anywhere nearit.
That would be one issue.
Two, none of these things havean independent energy source

(01:24:29):
that could power them for anyany significant duration of
time.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:33):
Go look at this one because that's not true.
What's it got?
Uh well, it's got I'll I'll findmy uh six thousand gallons of
diesel oil.
It has several thousand gallonsof diesel and as well as solar
in a battery system, and theytalk about how long they could
operate on the existing fuel,several years.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:53):
No, that's bullshit.
There's no way.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:55):
Yeah, because the everything is low voltage DC
stuff, and basically they canrun for several days off of
battery with no solar.
If they have solar, then theycan essentially run inevitable,
you know, for however long.

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:11):
Hey, I watched that that dumb TV show that you got
me into.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:16):
Which one?
Silo?

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:17):
Yeah.
Okay.
I I know how that shit works.
You know, when the theatmosphere is poisonous, you're
screwed.
You're not coming out to domaintenance, you're not doing
any of this shit.
Because all these bunkers aremade to enthusiast level,
they're mostly for show.
They're I'm not saying they'reuseless, but they're certainly

(01:25:41):
not going to be sufficient forany kind of argument argument
argument.
Armageddon type scenarios.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:52):
Well, take a look at this Atlas bunker because it's
uh pretty fucking neat.

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:57):
Yeah, and I do like watching building shows, so just
for that reason, if no other,I'd definitely check it out.
And I I've certainly playedplenty of video games with
bunkers in them.
So that's a thing.
Oh, and if if anyone is playinga Battlefield VI, feel free to
hit me up in-game under AtlasGaming, is what I'm in there.

(01:26:21):
Also, I've been working on aspreadsheet that maps out all
the different damage of the gunscompared to each other, and
taking into account the accuracyof the guns, the reloading time,
all that good stuff that peoplecare about to maximize.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:39):
So it's the best gun.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:42):
Uh, it's hard to say because they did a really good
job in balancing, right?
So for every positive thing onegun has, a different gun has a
different aspect that's better.
So it's really hard to say thatthere's a single like the most
powerful gun, the one that doesthe most actual DPS, is the

(01:27:02):
Tavor 7, the gun that you and Ihave in real life.
Really?
Yeah.
The full auto version of it,obviously.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:09):
Why the Tavor, not a 50 cal?

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:12):
Not a what?

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:13):
Why not a 50 cal?

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:15):
Well, they don't they don't have a 50 cal gun,
they have a 50 caliber rifle.
You know, what we're talkingjust like, you know, for lack of
a better term, an assault gun,right?
An assault rifle.
So there are machine guns thatdo more damage, obviously,
because they put out a lot moredamage per second.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:40):
But uh and go longer, and then there's the 50
cal rifle, which does verysignificant damage.
But in terms of like the gunsthat your infantry dudes would
carry, the the Tavor is the one,huh?
Tavor's the one, yeah.
It's a full auto 308 with adecent rate of fire.

(01:28:01):
Because a lot of the other 308sare slower rates of fire.
That's that's the distinction.
So the full auto Tavor is 720rounds per minute.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:10):
Which is pretty damn fast.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:12):
It's very fast.
Where a lot of the other gunsare like 500.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:17):
Last real story to talk about, and then I gotta go
to the bathroom.
Yeah, yeah.
But did you see the NBAindictments?

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:25):
No.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:25):
What for 30 dicks?
No, 34 indictments, players,coaches, etc.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:31):
Well, yeah, I see the headlines, but that's all I
saw is that yeah, they're thegames are rigged.
But like, come on, is anyonereally surprised?
Well, I'm just saying.
So, no Epstein files, but youknow, at least we're going after
the rigged games of the NBA.

(01:28:54):
I don't know how Dan Bunginolike wakes up in the morning.
This is a guy who spent a yearplus of talk show hosting
talking about the Epstein files.
Cash Patel talked about all theuh corruption in the FBI.

(01:29:17):
Nothing.
We've seen 'em, there's nothingto show.
End of story.

SPEAKER_03 (01:29:26):
I I have to believe that there's gonna be something
coming.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:29):
Yeah, and I I'm gonna stick with my original
thing that I told you beforeanything came out that I don't
think this will ever come out.
Because it is most likely thatEpstein's employer was the
United States government, andthe US government does not want
to show that they wereresponsible for a guy that used

(01:29:53):
methods that involved youngwomen to get blackmail material.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:00):
Well, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the CIA.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:03):
What do you think?
More pictures of barely closedchicks with large breasts.
Are you complaining?
I mean, I'm just trying to doit.
You're so predictable, dude.
You're so predictable.
You're doing it during the show,even.
You're not even waiting untilwe're done.

SPEAKER_04 (01:30:17):
It's what came across my X feed.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:20):
Yeah, that's the main thing that can't.
And by the way, I gotta mentionthis.
My X feed is completely fucked.
It's all Jew haters.
It's 100% Jew haters.
I don't have a single personthat I actually follow in my
feed that shows up.
It is all the Tucker Carlsontypes.
And then I thought about like, Iwonder what the hell happened.

(01:30:43):
How did my feed get screwed up?
I started looking into it.
A whole bunch of people arecomplaining about their feeds
right now.
And there's it appears thatthere's been some algorithmic
change in X that has decidedthat maybe not for everybody,
but for a certain group ofpeople, they're gonna start only
sending them contrary opinionsto the people that they follow.

(01:31:08):
Now, this could be a good thingfor interaction, right?
If your goal is to get morepeople interacting with your
posts, it's just as good to havepeople complaining and saying
you're a moron as it is forpeople to say, yeah, I agree.
Because interaction is stillinteraction, there's still
advertising on those feeds,you're still getting revenue.

(01:31:31):
But for somebody that isn'tgetting revenue and is just on
there for fun, it it's makingthe system unusable.
So I actually unsubscribe fromX.

SPEAKER_05 (01:31:41):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:31:42):
And until they fix this, I there's no point in
being on X.
I'll pay for Grok directly toGrok and have access to it
instead of paying through X, butI I don't need to pay for X if
my entire feed is just fucked.
There's not a single person thatI actually followed.

(01:32:03):
Guess when the year ends.
When?
In four days.
Okay.
Five days.
Five days, however many daysthis month has.
It's the end of the month.
So I I basically I did theactual cancellation, which
doesn't kick in until the end ofthe month.
Fair enough.
And I I mean it's gonna cost mea little more to have direct

(01:32:25):
access to Grok without X, butyou know, I don't care.
I actually use Grok.
I I can't use X right nowbecause it's it's it's
completely fucked.

SPEAKER_03 (01:32:35):
It's interesting that I don't have that problem.

SPEAKER_01 (01:32:38):
Yeah, it is interesting, isn't it?
Maybe we ought to do a classaction lawsuit or something.
Why?
Well, not you, but I mean, youknow, people like me.
The Jews?
Oh, I'm not I don't know if it'sthe Jews, but all I and I look,
there could be a bunch ofliberals that all of a sudden
are getting nothing butconservative stuff coming into
their feed.

(01:32:58):
I don't know what it is.
I just know that I had fourother people tell me they're
seeing the exact same things.
Like their feed went from peoplebasically agreeing with them on
everything to only people thatdisagree with them.
It's an inversion of thealgorithm.
And you don't notice it when itfirst happened because you're

(01:33:21):
you're thinking, oh wow, thismust have triggered a lot of
people, you know, Crimea Riverliberal tears.
And then next thing you realize,like, wait a minute, every day I
log in here, I see nothing butliberal posts.
I see Harry, what's his name,posting about Trump.
I I see, you know, Mandani postsevery two minutes.

(01:33:44):
There's it it's it justcompletely crushed the algorithm
compared to what it used to be,which was predominantly people
that I already follow and otherslike the people who I follow.

SPEAKER_03 (01:34:04):
I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_01 (01:34:06):
It's not a setting I changed, it's nothing that I did
that I can tell.
And when I started seeing otherpeople complaining about the
exact same thing, I'm like,okay, it's on their end, it's
not on my end.

SPEAKER_03 (01:34:20):
So I don't know.
My X feed's pretty hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 (01:34:22):
So well, that's because you've only ever
subscribed to chicks with bigbreasts, that's all.
So your whole feed has nopolitics, it has nothing of
consequence.
It's just that every message youforward to me is basically oh,
did you see this chick?
Uh-huh.
No.
I have lots of politics on mygame.

(01:34:44):
I'm sure you do, yeah.
No, I don't know what you'retalking about.
Okay, chicks with guns.
Yes, you subscribe to those two,not just chicks without guns.
And there have been a slew ofvideos of chicks wearing yoga
pants that are tighter thantheir actual skin.

(01:35:06):
What's wrong with that?
Nothing's wrong with it.
It's just like that's thecontent you're getting.
I mean, you know, there's otherwebsites for that content than
X.
Ah, yes.
It it's it's marginally funny,like this video that you just
sent of a a chick doing ahandstand wearing a

(01:35:29):
loose-fitting shirt with nothingunderneath.
And, you know, we have thisthing called gravity in America.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:36):
So only in America, not the rest of the world.

SPEAKER_01 (01:35:39):
Well, I can't speak for the rest of the world.
I can only speak for thiscountry because I don't know
what what happens in othercountries.
But yeah, I okay, where did youget the official plans for the
renovation of the White House?

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:52):
Uh it's a secret.

SPEAKER_01 (01:35:53):
Because that's that is I gotta say, that front
parking lot they got, that isthe best use of space I've ever
seen.

unknown (01:36:01):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:36:02):
Look look how many limos can park there.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 (01:36:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:36:07):
Yeah, I remember going to DC.
I was on a photo trip downthere, and it was when they
first put a fence up in front ofthe White House.
I was so pissed off, man.
Because I remember going therewhen there was no fence in front

(01:36:31):
of the White House.

SPEAKER_03 (01:36:33):
I know that's before my time.

SPEAKER_01 (01:36:34):
I remember when the street wasn't closed, when we
can literally drive past theWhite House and see it out of
the car.
And, you know, all of a suddenfencing it off just seemed like,
wait a minute.
If you gotta have a fence, maybemaybe you don't actually
represent the people.

SPEAKER_03 (01:36:52):
Well, it used to be you could go to the White House
and seek an audience with thepresident.

SPEAKER_01 (01:36:56):
Yeah, well, you could get a tour for sure.
All you have to do is come tothe city.
No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 (01:37:00):
There you there was a time in the United States when
you could go and sit down andsay, I want to speak to the
president.

SPEAKER_05 (01:37:06):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 (01:37:08):
Yeah.
And how'd that go for your grandgrandgrandad?

SPEAKER_03 (01:37:14):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (01:37:15):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I don't know.
But I but I do like therenovation.
I think it'll be uh nice to havea gold tower right next to the
White House.
The the image that Ben sent, uh,which I believe is the official
one, is that basically the eastwing of the White House is now
gonna look like a miniatureTrump Tower.

(01:37:37):
It'll be about two and a halftimes taller than the White
House with gold glass all theway around.
But I think that's animprovement because that that
space has just been wasted formany years.
And you know, you don't wantpeople staying in the Lincoln
bedroom, you want them stayingin the Trump bedroom.

SPEAKER_03 (01:38:00):
We'll see.
I don't think he's planning onadding anything like that, but
we'll see.

SPEAKER_01 (01:38:04):
Well, that's what this this you know architectural
image shows.
So why'd you send me a pictureof Monica Lewinsky?

SPEAKER_03 (01:38:15):
I don't know.
It's just uh interesting.

SPEAKER_01 (01:38:17):
Random chicks with boobs.
Okay, I get it.
All right, guys.
No, that's she looks good forher age.
Sure.
I'll for her age, she looksfine.
She looks actually, she lookedworse when she was young.

SPEAKER_05 (01:38:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:38:30):
Alright, so we'll go ahead and wrap things up, guys.
We'll catch you on the next one.
Hopefully, you enjoyed thespecial episode we did as well.

SPEAKER_03 (01:38:39):
All right, Gene.
We'll catch you.

SPEAKER_01 (01:38:41):
And buy my album.
Don't buy Gene's album.
Don't listen to Ben.
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