Two hosts trace a week of chaos—from sweating through an AC outage to unpacking shutdown strategy, airline status games, AI “Women’s Olympics,” and why civil conflict might already be here

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SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
Well, howdy, Ben.
How are you today?

SPEAKER_01 (00:03):
Good, Gene.
Glad you're not sweating yourballs off anymore.

SPEAKER_03 (00:06):
Not any longer.

SPEAKER_01 (00:08):
I wonder how much weight you lost in your sauna
experience over the last.

SPEAKER_03 (00:12):
I I actually can tell you.
11 pounds.
You're shitting me.
No, no.
It was 11 degrees and we askedabout a pump today.

SPEAKER_00 (00:23):
Oh, you better be drinking water, dude.

SPEAKER_03 (00:26):
I am.
I mean, I'm drinking like agallon a day at this point.

SPEAKER_00 (00:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (00:30):
But yeah, it's it was not a fun experience.
I will say I have very mixedfeelings about complaining about
it because it's such first worldproblems.
And it's it's such you knowpansy ass kind of shit to
complain about is the fact thatit's a little warm in my house.

(00:52):
So part of me is like, this isbullshit.
I'm I'm paying to haveeverything working, they
shouldn't take a week to fixthings.
This ought to be fixedimmediately.
But but part of me has to laughabout it too and say, My God,
you know, every summer I spenton the farm, we didn't have
fucking air conditioning.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11):
You know, uh we had an outhouse for Christ's sakes.
So it's not that big a deal inthe grand scheme of things.
It's it's inconvenient, it'sannoying.
I was a little worried about mysnakes, but I guess technically
they come from you know warmweather climates, like Indonesia
and stuff, and Africa.

(01:35):
So so they they were justlethargic, they just did not
want to move or do anything,didn't want to eat, didn't want
to move, didn't want to drink,just like laid there and
chilled, and then moved around alittle bit at night.
But I think that's that's moreof honestly.
I can't say I did a whole lotdifferent than the snakes at

(01:56):
this point.

SPEAKER_01 (01:57):
So Austin city law uh ordinances require all rental
properties to have AC, and theAC must be able to keep the
indoor temperature at below 85degrees and at least 15 degrees
cooler than the outsidetemperatures.
And if it is over 85, and thisvaries by city in Texas, that's

(02:19):
why I'm looking it up.
But if it was over 85, which itwas, they are required to fix it
in three days.

SPEAKER_03 (02:25):
Yep.
Which, yeah, it makes sense, youknow.
I agree.

SPEAKER_01 (02:31):
Well, I mean, part of it is I I know you don't want
to bitch and everything else,but you know, you you're you're
not a small guy, you've got somehealth stuff.
I know he he dying of heat is arare.

SPEAKER_03 (02:44):
I also lost 10 pounds, dude.
You know, that's not a badthing.

SPEAKER_00 (02:49):
That's a lot, man.

SPEAKER_03 (02:50):
It's a silver lining, it's a silver lining on
this whole thing.
Now, I probably gained likethree of those back already
since the AC got fixed, and I'vestarted eating again.
But because yeah, I don't knowif you've noticed this, but when
it's really hot, there's veryfew things you feel like eating.
Like you could eat watermelon,you could eat some fried
chicken, you can eat some stuffthat's kind of picnicky, right?

SPEAKER_01 (03:12):
But shrimp's always my go-to there, but yes.

SPEAKER_03 (03:15):
What?
Shrimp.
Oh, shrimp, yeah, yeah.
I could eat shrimp when it'swhen it's hot out, but you don't
feel like having any kind ofheavy foods, right?
Right.
So I again I'm I'm treating thisas a not a fun experience, but
I'm putting a silver lining onit.

SPEAKER_01 (03:34):
It's like you're you treat it as fat camp.
It's okay.

SPEAKER_03 (03:37):
Yeah, yeah.
It's it's fine.
It's fine.
Not that big a deal.

SPEAKER_01 (03:43):
Well, I'm glad that the AC's back, and uh I did not
travel this week, so there'sthat yeah.
I'm traveling again next week,though.

SPEAKER_03 (03:53):
Okay, okay, uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (03:55):
Uh uh tell me if this doesn't sound retarded, but
I have to fly to Dallas for ameeting, then I have to fly back
to Houston to fly to Birminghamto drive to Montgomery because
there are no good flightsdirectly to Montgomery.

SPEAKER_03 (04:12):
That makes sense.
I mean, can't you just drivedirect to Montgomery or you just
don't want to drive that far?

SPEAKER_01 (04:19):
I don't want to drive that far.

SPEAKER_03 (04:21):
Okay.
Yeah, and you also technicallydon't need to go back to
Houston.
You can just take AmericanAirlines and fly right out of
Dallas to your next stop, butyou don't want to do that
either.

SPEAKER_01 (04:31):
No.
No.
Why would I want to giveAmerican Airlines any of my
money?

SPEAKER_03 (04:35):
Yeah, there you go.
So yeah, I I just I don't careat this point.
I've got no status with anybodyanymore.
Not American, not United, so I'mjust gonna go for convenience.
And I mean in price, butconvenience.

SPEAKER_01 (04:56):
Well, I will be back up to gold, at least with United
on this one.
So and that gets you a lot ofbenefits, dude.

SPEAKER_03 (05:04):
Well, it does, but American always sends me every
end of year, they're like, hey,we know you haven't been flying
much.
Do you want to just pay us somemoney and get get the gold
status?

SPEAKER_01 (05:14):
And yeah, but do you know how expensive that is now?

SPEAKER_03 (05:17):
God, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it it is.
That's the thing, is like statusdoesn't really do diddly squat
for me because I I fly first nomatter what, anyway.
And status is really that's themain benefit of status is
upgrades.
If you take upgrades out of theequation of status, what's the
advantage?

SPEAKER_01 (05:38):
Free bags, free check bags, uh you get for all
of your party anyway.
You get two free bags for all ofyour party.
No, like I get with gold, I getup to like four bags per person,
up to eight people.

SPEAKER_03 (05:52):
Four bags, Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 (05:54):
Yes, uh anyway.
I mean it's significant boardinggroup, early, extra leg room at
time to get a bigger one.

SPEAKER_03 (06:00):
Yeah, boarding group is tied to the ticket class.
Yes, you pay for first, you getin right away.

SPEAKER_01 (06:05):
The only people ahead of you are military, and
those with status to pre-board.

SPEAKER_03 (06:10):
Well, what do you mean?
You mean like sick people?

SPEAKER_01 (06:15):
No, like if in terms of United, the like 1K or Global
Services members board.

SPEAKER_03 (06:21):
Oh, no, no, no.
Those don't the global servicesequivalent for American.
Yes, the people that pay 50grand a year to American, they
board before the people justpaid 1500 to American.
Exactly.
But as far as just regularstatus level people, they don't
board for me.

SPEAKER_01 (06:38):
Okay.
So except when I'm in line firstand I have gold because I board
with the first class people withgold.

SPEAKER_03 (06:50):
Right.
So you're boarding with thefirst class people, you're not
boarding ahead of them.

SPEAKER_01 (06:54):
Except I get in line first.
I always like to be the six inthe first time.

SPEAKER_03 (06:58):
So if you and I are in the same flight, we're both
gonna be there an hour ahead oftime.

SPEAKER_00 (07:02):
Yeah, I will stand there twenty for 20 minutes,
mothermark.
Exactly.
I have a spot for my overheadbag, I'm gonna sit my happy ass
down and watch everybody elsefile in.

SPEAKER_03 (07:12):
Yeah, no, the the best the best is when you're
first aboard and your seat is1A.

SPEAKER_00 (07:17):
Exactly, because you're first on, first off.

SPEAKER_03 (07:20):
Yep, first on, first off, and everybody has to stop
and wait for you to put yourshit away.
Yep, I gotta dig out my laptop,get my iPad, put on my 3D
glasses, put everything elseaway, and then okay, I'm gonna
sit down now.
Y'all can move along.
I'm not trying to be an asshole,it's just you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (07:40):
Well, that's a side effect.
You kinda are it's a sideeffect.
I don't think that's a sideeffect.
Do you think it's um sogovernment shutdown?

SPEAKER_03 (07:50):
And has anyone know?
Well, okay, I a couple of peoplehave mentioned they noticed to
me who aren't getting salariespaid right now.
But other than that, has anyonenoticed?

SPEAKER_01 (07:59):
And Trump's talking about not doing the back pay
thing.

SPEAKER_03 (08:04):
That'll be interesting.
Because I mean, yes, I get itfor people that aren't working,
but one of our, in fact, one ofour listeners here is active
military and is working.

SPEAKER_01 (08:16):
He's not gonna do that to them, but people who are
not actively working.

SPEAKER_03 (08:25):
He's actually actively involved in the whole
Chicago thing, and they're notgetting paid.
But the mortgages payments stillhave to be made.
So, this is one of those pointswhere you know you kind of hope
that people have some savings tolive off of until they get that
payment coming in.
But yeah, for people that arefurloughed, the people that are

(08:46):
literally like they're notworking because the government
is shut down.
I don't think they'll get paidfor that.
That's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_01 (08:52):
Well, and Trump's looking at instead if this goes
on too long, instead offurloughing them, firing them.

SPEAKER_03 (08:58):
Yeah, totally.
Which would actually be betterfor them anyway, because then
they start collectingunemployment and they should
start looking for real jobs.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (09:08):
But what a way to cut government.

SPEAKER_03 (09:10):
I've always been a huge fan of the government
shutdowns.
I remember the new Gingrich one,I remember the uh the first
Trump one, and I can't rememberif there was any under Bush or
not, but uh there was, and therewas one under Obama.

SPEAKER_01 (09:24):
I I think I really think we ought to.
So the only problem, the onlyway it's gonna affect my life is
when TSA starts calling in sickand doing all that, and the air
traffic controllers and stufflike that.
That's gonna fuck with me,right?
Because you're gonna have missedflights, cancel flights and
stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 (09:42):
Well, but that that's just an argument for
privatizing all the time.

SPEAKER_01 (09:46):
It's exactly what I was about to say.
That's why it should beprivatized.

SPEAKER_03 (09:49):
Yep, shouldn't be tied to a government budget,
which is something that is fullof pork, and for every
legitimate expense, there'stons, as we know from what doge
has done, there's tons and tonsof waste in the government.
So why the hell?

SPEAKER_01 (10:05):
Well, and that's I don't understand what Chucky
Schumer is trying to do herebecause he just gave Trump a
method to go through and imposethe Doge cuts legitimately.

SPEAKER_03 (10:17):
What did he do?

SPEAKER_01 (10:19):
Shut down the government.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So the the executive branch hasultimate discretion until
Congress acts.

SPEAKER_03 (10:29):
You know, I hadn't thought of that.
You're absolutely right.

unknown (10:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (10:34):
If the legislature is not willing to put a budget
together, then it's literally upto the executives.

SPEAKER_01 (10:44):
Yep.
Trump has to conserve what moneyhe can and you know, run for as
long as possible.

SPEAKER_03 (10:50):
I would run for two terms, is what I'm thinking.
That would be about good.
Can you imagine if this if thislasted until after the
elections?
How awesome would that be?

SPEAKER_01 (11:00):
It won't.

SPEAKER_03 (11:02):
But how awesome would it be though, huh?

SPEAKER_01 (11:04):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, it would be great.
But did you see that did you seethat Trump is diverting some of
the tariff funds to keep likethe women and children's food
bank open and stuff like that?
Like he's being very, very he'sbeing very intelligent about
playing to the hearts and mindsof people.

SPEAKER_03 (11:23):
Yeah.
Not a fan of that myself, butokay.

SPEAKER_01 (11:28):
Yeah, well, I'm just telling you, it I thought it was
a smart move.

SPEAKER_03 (11:32):
Yeah.
It's a good, it's a smartpolitical move for sure.

SPEAKER_01 (11:36):
Like, I I just don't understand what the Democrats
are thinking because you knowthey're saying that.

SPEAKER_03 (11:41):
Wait, he said those two words together like they
mean something.

SPEAKER_01 (11:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, they are giving Trump anopportunity if he takes it.
I think he's probably gonna haveto wait a good while into the
shutdown before he starts going,okay, they've taken too long,
I've got to do this.
But then he can fire people, hecan do all this.
I I think you know, they they'rehanding him all of this while

(12:05):
standing up and saying, No, no,we want tax the Obama healthcare
tax credits, and we want youknow health care for anyone
who's here.

SPEAKER_03 (12:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (12:19):
You know, they're they're they're not directly
saying illegals, but that's whatends up happening.

SPEAKER_03 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course.
Yeah, and it's yeah, it it justfeels so backwards because
they're not only they want toprovide free health care to
people that aren't even U.S.
citizens and are in the countryillegally to begin with, but
those of us that are on actualinsurance and have to be paying

(12:50):
thousands of dollars a month toan insurance company who then
gets to tell us what we can andcan't have for medical
treatment.
Like the doctor is secondary andis behind the insurance
companies.
Uh, unless you're an illegalimmigrant, in which case you
don't worry about insurancebecause the government's picking
up the debt.

(13:10):
Yeah, it's it's insane, man.

SPEAKER_01 (13:13):
While we're uh talking about insurance, fucking
dental insurance, dude.
Yeah, I have I have one crown.
I got it fairly recently.
Yeah, and I don't know whathappened, but apparently I
swallowed it.
I've done that, yeah.
Yeah, but because it's I wasfreaked out when that happened.

SPEAKER_03 (13:34):
Sorry to direct you, but I'm I I had to calm myself
by reading online that this is avery common occurrence, it's not
a big deal, I'll just pass rightthrough.

SPEAKER_01 (13:43):
Right, and if you can find it, the dentist will
tell you, yeah, we'll put it inthe autoclave, it'll be fine.
I know, no, and I'm like, I'mnot looking, I'm not looking.

SPEAKER_03 (13:51):
No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 (13:52):
But but anyway, dental insurance is gonna fuck
me and not pay anything on itbecause it's been too soon.

SPEAKER_03 (13:58):
That's correct, that's correct.
I have historically found thatdental insurance is not worth
the money because you end uppaying as much for it over the
course of several years as theycover, unless you do one of
these, like no insurance, youget insurance, then you go max
out the insurance limit, thenyou cancel it immediately.
Thing, but if you just can'tconsistently have it, and if

(14:20):
you're the one paying for it,not a company, and I I this is
my bias generally on allinsurance, since I'm paying all
insurance out of pocket, fullamount.
It's not like some people like,oh, I only pay like fifty
dollars a month for my uhinsurance for my company.
Yeah, but your company pays athousand bucks, so you're fifty
dollars in doing jack shit, it'sa tiny percentage of what the

(14:41):
company takes care of.
So, and then when you're yourown company like I am, it's all
coming out of my money, right?
That entire amount, and ofcourse, I get a phone call right
when we're doing recording.

SPEAKER_01 (14:56):
You can always also negotiate, right?
So, for instance, I've talked tothe dentist that did this crown,
and I'm saying, Hey, thisshouldn't have come off.

SPEAKER_03 (15:06):
That's absolutely right.
You could sue the dentist,that's the other thing you could
do.

SPEAKER_01 (15:09):
Yeah, I'm not, but they they're gonna work with me
on it, so they're gonna cover abunch of it.

SPEAKER_03 (15:14):
So it's all my dad had a like a year ago or so, he
was getting a tooth implant or acouple of them, and on one of
them, the doctor, when he wasdrilling, apparently over
drilled or something, and sowhen they put it in the post,
because you know what they do isthey they drill into your jaw

(15:34):
and then they implant a post inthere, a stud, whatever you want
to call it, and then wait forthat to heal, and then they
stick the tooth on top of that.
Well, anyway, long story short,is uh one of his teeth was fine.
The other one that he kind ofsuspected the doctor had fucked
up did come out like the postnever really fully seated in the

(15:55):
bone, the hole was too big, blahblah blah blah blah.
So, same kind of situation asfar as the insurance company was
like, Well, we paid out on thattooth, we're not paying anything
on that tooth forward, it's doneas far as we're concerned.
Doctor was like, Well, I'll giveyou your money back that was
your co-payment that theinsurance didn't pay.

(16:16):
Hell no, yeah, no, becauseinsurance ain't gonna cover it
again, and you got the moneyfrom insurance, you got a good
chunk of that.
So you're and in the end, hekind of threatened them with a
lawsuit, and they ended uptaking it on their board of
advisement for the dentistoffice, which probably the same
people, you know, dentists, acouple of dentists that work

(16:37):
there, and decided just to payhim the full amount, including
what the insurance paid, so thathe could then personally pay for
that to have be redone somewhereelse.
But it's like, and it's not likeit's gonna be an easy redo.
I mean, it's no matter whatthey'll have to do a bone graph,
and and then that's fucked up.
You're gonna have to graft newbone on, have that all fuse with

(17:01):
your current bone, drill intothat, and then have it.
I mean, it's a multi-yearprocess, so I don't know if he's
ever gonna get his tooth.

SPEAKER_01 (17:08):
But uh at his age, what he should do is just say
screw it and put in a bridge.

SPEAKER_03 (17:14):
Well, at his age, what I would do is just say
screw it and not worry about thetooth.
Because honestly, you'd and andat his age is 86.
So it's funny to me that yourdad's.

SPEAKER_02 (17:42):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (17:43):
Yeah.
Totally.
Well, you got an old mom.
What can I say?
I'm I'm probably closer to yourdad's age than your mom is to
your dad's age.

SPEAKER_01 (18:00):
How old are you?

SPEAKER_03 (18:01):
How old am I now?
54.

SPEAKER_01 (18:06):
No, my dad's 70.

SPEAKER_03 (18:08):
Oh, you said he was 69.

SPEAKER_01 (18:10):
Oh, he turned 70 in February.
Last month?
February?
February.

SPEAKER_03 (18:15):
Oh, so you lied about his age.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (18:17):
No, no, no.
He just turned he turns 70.

SPEAKER_03 (18:20):
Yeah, but I talked to him three weeks ago.

SPEAKER_01 (18:23):
Oh, he's gonna be 70.

SPEAKER_03 (18:25):
So he is 69.
So you're lying about his age.
Okay.

unknown (18:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (18:28):
I'm rounding up.
15 years, 15 years, and thenyour mom just turned out.

SPEAKER_01 (18:32):
No, my mom and my mom and dad are 10 years apart.
Yeah, 10 and years and a fewmonths.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (18:37):
All right.
Well, yeah.
But either way, I forgot howyoung your dad was versus your
mom.
Yeah.
Which, you know, usually the 10years of the if it's that much,
it usually goes in the oppositedirection.

SPEAKER_01 (18:50):
Yeah.
Well.
I don't know what to tell youthere, bud.
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (18:57):
Oh that's uh, I mean, your mom does not look
older than your dad, I'll tellyou that.

SPEAKER_01 (19:04):
No, my mom has aged extremely well.

SPEAKER_03 (19:06):
He her birthday, she was dancing and jumping around
and running around.

SPEAKER_01 (19:11):
And that was before her knee surgery.

SPEAKER_03 (19:13):
Oh, yeah?

SPEAKER_01 (19:14):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (19:16):
Yeah, so good for her.
I think she was happy for metoo.

SPEAKER_01 (19:23):
That oh easily, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (19:27):
Well, that's probably not that hard.

SPEAKER_01 (19:29):
No, it is not.
Alright, so government shut downover health care for illegals.

SPEAKER_03 (19:37):
Mm-hmm.
For sure.
So, shall we talk about women'sOlympics next?

SPEAKER_00 (19:46):
All the AI.

SPEAKER_03 (19:48):
I would pay good money for a pay-per-view.
I would freaking buy whateverchannel wants to sell me those
viewings for the uh women'sOlympics because they're
freaking awesome.
People that are going, what areyou talking about?
The Olympics aren't just go onX.
Yeah, if you go on X and yousearch for Women's Olympics

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Games, Women's Olympic Games,you'll start getting a bunch of
videos that pop up of all kindsof innovative new sports that
frankly should be in theOlympics.
Sports like washing dishes,sports like uh speed vacuuming.

SPEAKER_01 (20:28):
There are dozens of my favorite one was bringing the
husband a beer.

SPEAKER_03 (20:34):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Timed bringing a husband a beer.
Yeah, yeah, there's a dozendifferent sports, and there's
you know what looks like20-something athletes wearing
typical.

SPEAKER_00 (20:47):
And we gotta say, these are actually pretty good.
They're really videos, yeah,yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (20:52):
This this is done very well.
Whoever came up with this,unfortunately, it's using Sora
and AI, but you know, I wouldpay for the real thing, and I'll
bet you a real thing could beorganized if there was enough
money put into something likethat.
You could totally set up a realand much like the video, it
would have to take place inJapan, it'd have to be someplace

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where they don't have thisbullshit view of women as oh,
well, you don't you don't wantto offend their sensibilities by
letting an Olympic sport likewashing dishes be in there.
No, no, no.
In Japan, that would totallyfloat.
That would be just oh yeah.
Uh considering some of thethings they would have
competitive bukake.

(21:36):
That literally is a thing thatlike yeah.
I've seen like women's how do wephrase this delicately, women's
athletic championships onpulling carts with men behind
them.
Yeah.
As a sport that's filmed.

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Yeah, I mean, there's all kindsof shit there.
And they just don't, they theyhave the least amount of sexual
hang-ups.

SPEAKER_01 (22:06):
And uh Germans are up there too.

SPEAKER_03 (22:10):
Germans are a little different.
I mean, they both do weird shit,but in Japan, like when you go
to the baths, you're naked withpeople of the opposite sex.
In Germany, if you go to thebath, you're naked with a bunch
of gay dudes.

SPEAKER_01 (22:27):
Well, why are you going to a public bath?

SPEAKER_03 (22:30):
Well, for the naked gay dudes, obviously, whales.
But I'm bumped.
No, Germany has got I thinkGermany is just into ass a lot.
That's it's more of their thing.
Where the Japanese are just inlike, you know, you've seen
Japanese manga octopuses.
What the fuck, man?

(22:51):
Yeah, octopi.
Yeah, uh octopodes.
They're uh into all kinds ofthings.

SPEAKER_01 (22:59):
Well, and but that's come to the US now.

SPEAKER_03 (23:02):
Yeah, a lot of that has I agree.

SPEAKER_01 (23:05):
I mean, the US is doing a lot of the real life uh
live action hentai stuff and allthat.

SPEAKER_00 (23:12):
Like it's it's high production value a year.
You should not Google things.

SPEAKER_03 (23:20):
No, no, you should no definitely do not Google
whatever you do, kids.

SPEAKER_00 (23:26):
Don't Google German Scheiße poor.

SPEAKER_03 (23:28):
No, no, no, no, no.
Um now I will say I think mostof that is from the 90s, but
still, yeah, don't so don't geton that down the path.

SPEAKER_01 (23:38):
Anything else on the Women's Olympics as well.
I think it's super creative.

SPEAKER_03 (23:42):
I I love seeing that they're all wearing uniforms of
their countries, they've gotcute little aprons with their
country flags on them.
I mean, it's like, and theexpressions on these women's
faces are like they're reallytrying hard.
So something you'll never see inAmerica on a woman.
So by the way, you know, my dadthinks I don't like women.

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I was like, dude, the reason I'mcritical of things that are
man-ish that women do is becauseI do like women and I want women
to be feminine the way that theynaturally would be if it wasn't
for propaganda coming from avariety of sources, most of
which are socialists.
So yeah, it's I don't want thisto be misconstrued at all.

(24:30):
It's like the the happiest womenyou're gonna have are women in
traditional female roles.

SPEAKER_01 (24:42):
So did you see the left freaking out about the
rumor that Trump was going toput a massive Jesus statue on
the White House grounds?

SPEAKER_03 (24:52):
Like for Christmas?

SPEAKER_01 (24:55):
No, like a permanent installation in in the
president's park.

SPEAKER_03 (24:59):
Oh, no, I did not hear that.

SPEAKER_01 (25:03):
Yeah, and like their news stories all over no no,
it's not true, it's not true.
Yeah, and yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (25:11):
I don't I don't see what the problem is, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 (25:14):
Well, blue sky was aflame with it.

SPEAKER_03 (25:17):
So blue sky is basically non-existent.
I watched a video on itrecently, a couple days ago,
talking about the user trends,and like there's there's
measurements that you can get onblue sky in interactions and
things.
Yeah, blue sky is aboutone-tenth of the size that it
was two years ago.

SPEAKER_01 (25:39):
Well, uh a lot of people left after the Charlie
thing.

SPEAKER_03 (25:43):
And I I think a lot of people left before the
Charlie thing, too.
And uh some of the people, Imean, there they're like there's
people leaving on both sides.
There's people living that are alittle too centrist for it, and
there are definitely peopleleaving that think blue sky is
not far left enough.
So you got you got a little bitof both sides coming down, but

(26:05):
in the end, the the usage stats,the engagement levels,
everything is just a tiny littlefraction of what X is.
So when people say that Blue Skyis the liberal X, no, it really
isn't.
Blue Sky is closer to what wehad on the no agenda
whatchamacallit server.

(26:28):
The uh Mastodon.
Mastodon server, yeah.
More more like that.

SPEAKER_01 (26:36):
Yeah.
So President Trump, going backto this, announced today, and
this just popped up that I sawit, but he's been talking about
it, that they will be makingcuts that will be permanent.
They we are only going to cutdemocratic programs.
I hate to tell you that's theway it works.
They wanted this.
Like, I don't know how whatpossessed Schumer to do this, it

(27:02):
just doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_03 (27:04):
Well, I think to some extent he's stuck between
Iraq and the hard place because,on the one hand, you have the
ideology that they want to stickto, on the other hand, they have
the voters that you know thatthat really are not taxpayers.
Let's face it.
Most of the people voting forDemocrats are leeches on

(27:24):
society, not producers insociety.
So they're I I think that theywould have to capitulate on
their on the voting for thingsthat they've been talking about
supporting in order to keep thegovernment running to keep their

(27:47):
people happy.
So I think this is all goodbecause it's a lose-lose for
them, regardless of whichdirection the Democrats go on
this, and uh a win for Trump orfor conservatives or whatever
for the right.
Because it's a in the end, likeeither way when the government

(28:10):
gets started up again, whichwill be a sad day, I'll have a
tear in my eye.
But when that happens, Trumpwill get to get the credit for
that, and they know it.
Get the credit for thegovernment restarting,
restarting for puttingeverything back, you know, to
normal.
I think the Republicans for thereally the first time that in my

(28:32):
lifetime have actually done agood job of shifting the blame
for shutdown on the Democrats.
The last time this happenedduring Trump, they did not do
nearly as good a job, and a lotof people blame the Republicans
for the shutdown.
Uh, all the previous times thatI recall there being government
shutdowns, the Republicans weresquarely the ones that were

(28:53):
pointed to as the reason we havea shutdown.
This time around, I don't seethat being the case.
I mean, there might be anoccasional news outlet here and
there that does that, but it'snot, you know, it's not a it's
not the mainstream view.

(29:16):
It's a minority view that it'sthe Republicans that shut things
down.

SPEAKER_01 (29:23):
Well, I don't know.
This is one area where I wonderif we're not in an echo chamber
where we're just seeing our sidebecause the Democrats are
definitely, you know, screamingat the Republicans that they're
the ones at fault.

SPEAKER_03 (29:37):
Yeah, but where are they screaming at?

SPEAKER_01 (29:39):
I mean MSNBC.

SPEAKER_03 (29:42):
Yeah, but nobody watches MSNBC.
Literally, all the guys that youand I watch Rumble and on
YouTube have audiences massivelylarger than MSNBC.
And they they don't even havelarge audiences compared to like
video game content guys.
Guys who have way biggeraudiences in the multiple

(30:03):
millions of people.
You know, the all these networknews people are are they getting
way under a million views, and alot of them are getting under a
hundred thousand views.
Not all of them, but some ofthem do.

SPEAKER_01 (30:21):
Over what period of time?

SPEAKER_03 (30:23):
Over the period they're available, which is the
same for anybody.
You know, not network news putsup their shit online as well.
You go on YouTube and see howmany views shows on NBC or MSNBC
or CBS or any of these get.
They get hundreds of viewsoften.
There's nobody watching thatshit.
And you can make an argument andsay, well, yeah, they don't
they're not watched onlinebecause people watch them on

(30:46):
their TV sets.
Yeah, but from those, we havethe Nielsen's.
We know how many people watchthat.
And Nielsen today is not likeNielsen of 30 years ago.
They they very accuratelycorrectly track everything that
you watch based on sound waves.
You get a little device, it'sbasically listening anytime

(31:06):
you've got the TV on for what'son, and it's using sound
recognition to know whatchannels you're watching, what
ads you're skipping, like itcalculates all that stuff, so
it's very precise.
So those shows don't reallyaffect much.
They're they probably getmentioned more, or you may see

(31:29):
more clips on X of a show fromCNBC than anybody actually
watched on CNBC.
Potentially.
I think more often than that.
Because X videos can if they'regood, I mean they can get

(31:50):
millions of views.
So anyway, I I just think thatit's just such a non-thing.
Like this I I told this to Adammany years ago.
I said, we need to stop callingwhat people refer to as
traditional media or mainstreammedia.

(32:12):
We need to stop calling themthat because they're neither.
I'm okay with using the term oldmedia to refer to them, but
they're not mainstream media.
Mainstream is watching clips onyour phone about all kinds of
political topics.

(32:32):
I'll tell you a clip that'smaking the rounds that is not on
mainstream television that isway, I mean, like hundreds of
millions of views, not just afew million, hundreds of
millions of views, is a clip ofHassan Piker.
You know who he is.
Yes, uh, who is a uh basically apro-terrorist Twitch streamer

(32:53):
who's never getting bannedbecause Twitch is pro-terrorist,
and and that's just objectivelytrue if you look at their
content.
But he he was doing a streamwhere his dog, who's always in
the background of his videos,got up from his doggy bed to
stretch his paws and took onestep to get off the doggy bed,

(33:18):
and Hassan leaned over to theleft, did something that made
the dog go yelp in a high pitchand instantly get back in the
doggy bed, as Hassan is saying,This dog is so spoiled, my mom
spoils it.
You know, she just needs tochill.

SPEAKER_01 (33:36):
Did you uh did you see the meme of Hassan and it's
Hitler with his dog petting it,loving it, and then Hassan,
yeah, electroshocking his dog,yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (33:49):
So the the what actually happened, which I'm
positive is the case, uh, youknow, it was sort of a we think
this is what happened for awhile until Hassan actually
showed what he has there, buthe's got a shock collar.
This isn't basically an indoordog, right?
The fuck has he got a shockcollar on it for, first of all,
he but he does have a shockcollar on it, and the dog has

(34:13):
basically been you know trainedinto submission of sitting on a
what looks like about a two-footby four foot little doggy bed
for 12 hours a day while Hassanstreams.
Dog doesn't get to go for ascratch, doesn't get to go to
the bathroom, doesn't get toplay.

(34:34):
The dog's job is to be an objectin the background of Hassan's
stream, and this is not becausethe dog loves sitting next to
its owner, this is because thedog was tortured by electricity
to sit in that spot and notmove.
That's pretty fucked up, right?
Very fucked up.
I'm not even the dog owner, andI think that's pretty fucked up.

(34:56):
Now, I will say a couple ofcaveats.
Number one, dog electric collarsare not that painful.

SPEAKER_01 (35:04):
No, it's a it's like a TENS unit, it's like a TENS
unit.

SPEAKER_03 (35:07):
It there you well, you clearly know plenty more on
that topic as well.

SPEAKER_01 (35:11):
But anyway, yeah, I I I actually so I will I will
say that I will say this a shockcollar used as a training
implement is a wonderful thing.
Yeah, because what you do is youset it to the lowest possible
shock that the dog responds to.
You get one with a vibrate and abeep.

(35:32):
Yeah, and like I train it, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (35:34):
You train it to the beep is all it takes for the
beep is the warning, the shockcomes after.

SPEAKER_01 (35:40):
Yeah, I would use the vibrate to get my dog Max's
attention, like out at the parkor something, letting him off
leash, he's running around doingsomething.
I can hit that vibrate and callhim, and it breaks his attention
long enough that he's comingback, yeah.
And and you using it as atraining aid is fine.

SPEAKER_03 (35:58):
Yeah, but also just the fact that what your goal is
is to have an animal like a dog.
This is not a fucking snake thatsleeps 18 hours a day, anyway.
If I had a cam on my snake, Iwouldn't need anything because
it's sleeping all the time,anyway.
This is a dogs are you know,they're active animals, they're
not passive animals like someanimals.

(36:20):
And to basically shock the doginto submission of just sitting
on a two-foot by three-foot bedis just fucked up, in my
opinion.

SPEAKER_01 (36:31):
For how many hours a day?

SPEAKER_03 (36:32):
Well, he streams about 12 hours a day, yeah, and
the dog is almost always there,and it's not like he takes the
dog for a leash for a walk orsomething during the stream,
obviously not, and then and notlike he's also a
multimillionaire, so it's notlike he has a dog walker that
comes by in the middle of astream, says, All right, you
know, I'll be back in 20minutes, you and then takes the

(36:55):
dog away.
No, the dog just sits there for12 hours a day, does nothing,
just lays there in its bed.
This is not a good life for adog, and there are people that
are trying to call the whateverthe version the equivalent of
the ASPCA is to basically tryand have somebody liberate that
dog.
I'm not a fan of people gettinginto other people's pets

(37:18):
business either.
Like, you know, I don't likethat.

SPEAKER_01 (37:21):
Ultimately, a dog is not a person.
Do I think you ought to abuse ananimal?
No, is the dog your fuckingproperty?
You're goddamn right.

SPEAKER_03 (37:29):
Yeah, so I posted a comment, uh kind of a snarky
comment.
It's amazing, right?
On uh another streamer'sTectones post about Hassan's.
So the guy's been spewing hateand been a pro-terrorist
activist for a decade, and thisis what people are upset about.
It's not the kill all Jews, it'sthe fact that he zapped his dog.

(37:55):
Now, I'm I'm doing that becauseI'm rattling the cage, right?
This is not a I don't think thedog ought to be abused either,
but it it seemed like theappropriate thing to say.
And so, holy shit did thatignite a storm.
There's over 250 replies to meon that topic.

(38:16):
Most of them not so nice.
And there was even a poll thatwas started who would you rather
go without dogs or Jews?
Okay, and this is not Hassan'speople, right?
This is a guy who's pointing outhow bad Hassan is that is doing

(38:40):
this, and incidentally, the pollresults were about 62%, 63% of
the people would prefer the Jewsthat the Jews stick around,
while 30 obviously fake poll.
38% of the people prefer thedogs stick around and the Jews
disappear.
And a few people had commentedafter that man, I didn't read

(39:03):
the poll correctly.
I meant to get rid of the Jews.

SPEAKER_00 (39:07):
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (39:09):
So that's that number is artificially high
because the IQ level of thepeople answering that poll is
not sufficiently high enough toallow them to process the
entirety of the question all atonce.
If it should have just saidJews, dogs, then I think then
people would have gotten it.
But it was actually like a fullsentence question.
Yeah, so since we're on thetopic of Jews, yeah, which by

(39:31):
the way, Muslims hate both dogsand Jews.

SPEAKER_01 (39:34):
Yeah, so do you want to do you want to talk Candace
or do you want to talkNetanyahu?
I don't care.
Which one?
Which one do you want to startwith?

SPEAKER_03 (39:43):
Candace is she's she's feeling like she's got the
spotlight on her.
Her best friend is Charlie.
I've done a kill switch.
I've done a kill switch.
Her best friend Charlieapparently had been talking to
her the entire week before hisassassination, saying, I think
the Jews are out to get me.

SPEAKER_01 (40:02):
No, that's that's not quite the story.
There's a text thread.

SPEAKER_03 (40:06):
Yeah, exactly, that she was on.
Where Charlie was saying that Idon't know that she was on it.

SPEAKER_01 (40:12):
I think it was leaked to her because it was
leaked to her.

SPEAKER_03 (40:15):
So somebody else that was on it leaked it to her?
Maybe.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (40:19):
That is my understanding.

SPEAKER_03 (40:20):
But she's portraying this as a legitimate real thing.
And in that thread, we see alittle bit of businessman
Charlie rather than a let's havea conversation, Charlie.
And the businessman Charlie is a$500 million millionaire.
Okay, he knows what he's doing,he's good at it.

(40:41):
What he's good at doing isgetting donations.
Yep.
And nobody would argue, I think,that that really understands
business with that aspect of it.
And so apparently there wasanother, so this wasn't the
first, so this has to have beena not the first Jewish donor
that'd been happy with Charliefor a long time, and then to the

(41:02):
tune of donating two milliondollars per year to him.
Now, I don't donate two milliona year to anybody, I don't know
about you, Ben, but this is adifferent lead.

SPEAKER_00 (41:12):
I would have to have two million dollars before
donate, right?

SPEAKER_03 (41:16):
So this is a different level of donors.
And Charlie, having been on thereceiving end of not just one of
these, but by his messages,several of these people who had
been donating had decided tocancel donating.
Then they're saying, look, wedon't like the direction you're

(41:38):
going.
We don't want to have you havepeople like Candace or what's
his face on there?
Tucker being platformed becausethey at least as of right now,
they're spewing anti-Jewishhatred.
And you know, if you're donatingmoney to somebody, you get to do
that.
That's just part of the deal.

(41:59):
Your your money is not anobligation, your money is a
donation, and donations onlyhappen when the person donating
them thinks that the personthat's gonna get the money is
doing something that they like,and platforming people that are
anti-Jewish is not gonna besomething that Jewish donors

(42:23):
like generally.

SPEAKER_01 (42:24):
Yeah, fair enough, but you know, there's there's a
lot there.
He also said supposedly in thattext thread that we have not
seen.
Let me remind everybody.
Well, I saw that that I thoughtshe hadn't released it.

SPEAKER_03 (42:41):
Well, she didn't release it, but uh it's making
the rounds.

SPEAKER_01 (42:44):
Okay, well, anyway, it but uh Charlie, one of
Charlie's producers, confirmedthat it was legit.
So there's that.
But regardless, that he fearedfor his life in this, right?
So she got it, she and this isjust two days before he was
killed, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 (43:00):
I saw him in a dream where he told Candace that he
was afraid for his life.
No, in the text thread, textthread does not mention him
being afraid for his life, itdoes mention him saying the Jews
are acting like Jews.
Stereotypical, yes, verystereotypical, yeah, like
stereotypical Jews.

(43:20):
Yeah, and again, it's like okay,okay, let's say that Charlie had
been donating to an organizationthat was seemingly you know,
pro-Christian, pro-Americanvalues, and they uh they decided

(43:41):
to invite a very anti-Christianspeaker from Iran to speak
there.
I'm not sure that Charliewouldn't have done the exact
same thing.
I think anybody would go look atlike the places that they are
donating money, what are theydoing with that money?

(44:06):
If the uh American Red Cross andyou're making donations to them,
all of a sudden it comes outthey're spending your money on
doing child transitionsurgeries.
Would you keep doing donations?
Probably not.
Because the the beauty ofdonating is you get to decide
whether you want to continuedoing that or not.
You you don't get to decidenecessarily.

(44:29):
Now, in some donations, theythey will earmark things, but
generally when you donate, youdon't get to decide what they
will spend your money on, butyou absolutely get to decide
whether you continue sendingthem money or not.
And that was the the thecontents of the text, which is
Charlie saying, We lost anotherJewish donor to the tune of two

(44:51):
million dollars.
Okay, so the only stuff that Ican gather out of that is this
is not the first Jewish donorthat has decided to stop
donating to him.
I think that's totally legit.

SPEAKER_01 (45:05):
Well, it it the the Asta.

SPEAKER_03 (45:10):
I think a lot of people are surprised.
Sorry to interrupt you, Ben, butI think a lot of people are even
surprised that there are Jewsdonating money to Charlie.
They thought he was Christian,not Jewish.
Well, what are they doing?

SPEAKER_01 (45:22):
That's irrelevant.

SPEAKER_03 (45:23):
So was he was Charlie on on the pape from
Israel?
He's you know, I mean, this isthis is the kind of stuff that
reaffirms things that Candace issaying, which is that all Jews
are receiving money from Assadto propagate a message, right?

SPEAKER_01 (45:38):
And that's where I was going is the the implication
here is just what you said isthat you know, hey the Jews are
in control here.
Now, well, they're certainly incontrol of their money,
absolutely.
Sure, sure, sure.
Now, going back to Netanyahu,did you see Netanyahu on Ben

(46:01):
Shapiro's show?

SPEAKER_03 (46:02):
I saw clips.
I don't know which clip you'rereferring to.

SPEAKER_01 (46:06):
So the clip I'm referring to that I think is
interesting is the him saying weare the lesser partner.
See that one?
I did.
So Netanyahu comes out and says,you know, just like in a
marriage and da-da-da-da-da, andyou know, we are the lesser
partner, meaning Israel defersto the US, which I do believe to

(46:30):
be largely true.
Now, I would say that it's a lotof Zionists in the State
Department that are using Israelfrom a tactic standpoint of
being, you know, the unsinkableaircraft carrier in the Middle
East, right?
You know, much like Taiwan wasused during World War II.

SPEAKER_03 (46:49):
Or even now, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (46:51):
Yeah.
So anyway, it will be veryinteresting to see who hears
that.
Now, I think it's stupid that hesaid it on Ben Shapiro's fucking
show, but you know, it had hesaid it on I don't know, Joe
Rogan, I think it would havecome across very differently.

SPEAKER_03 (47:10):
Well, uh yeah, but I mean, come on, Ben, you know
that that he was only there inthe US at all to just talk to
his main agent Shapiro, the onthe boots on the ground guy.

SPEAKER_01 (47:21):
I thought that was Trump.

SPEAKER_03 (47:23):
Oh no, no, no.
Trump is not the main agent forIsrael.
Come on, that's Ben.
Ben Ben is responsible forIsraeli agenda, clearly.

SPEAKER_01 (47:32):
Yeah, well, Trump's uh Trump's you know FBI just cut
ties with the ADL.

SPEAKER_03 (47:38):
Thank God should have done that years ago.
The ADL is I think to normalJews, kind of like the the the
Negro Poverty Center, orwhatever they're called, is to
black people, southern SouthernPoverty Law Center, or literally
what I said.

SPEAKER_00 (47:55):
Literally what I said Jesus Christ or the NAACP,
same group, it's it's a groupthat is gene et surge.com.

SPEAKER_03 (48:08):
They're literally a group that is using a ethnicity,
religion, uh skin color,religion, whatever, of somebody
else to be able to do leftyagendas, and that's all the
ADL's ever been.
Yeah, it that there's in in youknow, like if I'm at a a party

(48:31):
where a lot of like let's saysomebody's bar mitzvah, right?
Tons of Jews around.
If you go through and you askthese Jews, what do you think of
the ADL?

SPEAKER_01 (48:41):
Really a bunch of Jews at a bat mitzvah.

SPEAKER_03 (48:44):
Yeah, amazing, right?
You'll get about 80% of the mensaying, Oh my god, they fucking
suck, they're only making thingsworse for the rest of us.
You'll get about 40% of thewomen agreeing with the men.
You know, most women tend to bethey they want to save
everybody, right?
And they think the ADL is theirsaving people.
So most women will think that'sa good thing, most men know that

(49:05):
the ADL is a horrible thing, butin the end, uh there's a very
substantial majority of Jewsthat would distance themselves
from the ADL and preferred theADL just didn't exist and wasn't
trying to make Jews look likeJewish cartoon characters, and
or you know, or worse.
So the fact that they managed toweasel their way into providing

(49:30):
any kind of agenda to the USgovernment is a a little
surprising to me, but alsohorrible.
So if they're now out, which itappears like they are, that's a
good thing.
Because they they not only dothey not speak for Israel, which
like they the ADL is way left ofeven Israeli politics, but they

(49:51):
don't speak for Jews in general,they they just grab the name,
you know.
It's it it's like if you havesome I don't know, some group
that is based around I don'tknow, let's call it uh I'm
trying to think of non like atotally fake, not real thing,

(50:12):
and I keep thinking of actualreal groups, but let's say
you've got a group called theFirearm Safety Preservation
Foundation, right?
And then you listen to whatthey're actually putting out
there, and what they're puttingout is in order to have safe
firearms, no one needs to have amagazine of more than 10 rounds,

(50:34):
right?
Like just because they have thename firearms in their and
preservation in their namedoesn't mean they're the good
guys, they're actually the badguys, and that's that's kind of
the same situation with the ADL.
I don't think the ADL honestlywas ever needed.
Like, this is a group that nevershould have been created.
The premise for it is it it wascreated to publicly combat

(50:58):
anti-Semitism, but I don't thinkit's ever actually done that.
Agreed, and and and you don'tcombat anti-Semitism with a
group, you combat it with betterteachers.
So, yeah, it's it's bad.

(51:19):
What else you get?

SPEAKER_01 (51:21):
Well, Israel and Hamas agrees to phase one of
Trump's peace.

SPEAKER_03 (51:25):
I don't I don't understand how that works.

SPEAKER_01 (51:27):
What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 (51:28):
I don't I don't see it working, I don't think it's
gonna work.
I don't know.
I always just assumed that thatwhole agreeing to a peace was
just an excuse to say, look,they didn't accept peace, so we
have to keep going.

SPEAKER_01 (51:41):
Yeah, well, I think Israel's rebels Gaza enough that
it's not gonna be livable, andpart two of the peace deal is
people have got to get out.

SPEAKER_03 (51:50):
Yeah, they definitely have to get out so
they can finish rebalizing it.

SPEAKER_01 (51:54):
And then rebuild, yes.

SPEAKER_03 (51:56):
Or something.
I mean, the I I remember makingAI-generated Trump towers in
Gaza.
There's always fun to talk aboutlike that.
But honestly, I don't I don'tknow that it does need to be
rebuilt.
It's gonna be safer if it's notrebuilt.

SPEAKER_01 (52:17):
I mean, it's kind of prime real estate there, bud.

SPEAKER_03 (52:21):
Yeah, but if you compare prime real estate to
risk of more violence, I'm notsure that you use that prime
real estate.
You just leave it as a buffer.
Maybe I I would I would say thisif Israel starts building there
again, which they hadpreviously, it'll be a huge PR

(52:45):
disaster.

SPEAKER_01 (52:48):
Well, I don't know that it'll be Israel that does
it.

SPEAKER_03 (52:51):
Still, but it'll be bad PR for any company that
comes into that.
You're gonna have Greta Thunbergin there talking about reclaimed
land.

SPEAKER_01 (52:59):
What what if it's the UAE?

SPEAKER_03 (53:02):
They're still gonna look the white liberal women are
still gonna protest.
They don't give a shit.
The the Arabs may be moreinclined to that solution, but
yeah, I don't know.
I I think that there's a youknow who could who would love to

(53:24):
take the land that is supposedto be Palestinian land?
Who's that?

SPEAKER_01 (53:30):
The Kurds who were no shit completely ripped out of
the actually that is a fuckinggreat idea.

SPEAKER_00 (53:38):
Is that a good idea?
Yeah, that is actually a goodidea because Kurds, the Kurds
should have their own countries,absolutely, they totally should,
yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (53:49):
And for people who go, Well, what about the
Palestinians?
The Palestinians are Arabs, butthey have their own countries.

SPEAKER_03 (53:54):
Palestinians are Arabs, and there are what 17
Arab countries around the worldthat have a population of two
billion people now combined.

SPEAKER_01 (54:03):
Jesus Christ.
But hold on, the population isthe there's not two billion
Arabs, though.

SPEAKER_03 (54:12):
There's two billion Muslims, yes, not two billion
Arabs.
I was exaggerating there, right?

SPEAKER_01 (54:17):
So the yeah, because like in Dubai, yeah, you know,
98% of the population is notArab.

SPEAKER_03 (54:27):
Right, that's that's true, yeah.
No, that's a very good point.

SPEAKER_01 (54:30):
But I but I think there are actually 17 Arab
countries, so and yeah, I'm notI'm not fact-checking you right
now, but it sounds about right.

SPEAKER_03 (54:39):
It it and some are much smaller than others, but
it's basically all of NorthAfrica, uh, and and these are
conquered lands, like Egypt wasnot an Arab country for the
majority of its history, but ithas been an Arab country for the
last 800 years or so.

SPEAKER_01 (54:56):
It's been a Muslim country, not an Arab country,
Arab-conquered country.

SPEAKER_03 (55:01):
I said not it's it's not to say that genetically the
population is Arab, but it isconquered by Arabs.

SPEAKER_01 (55:09):
I I I know Egyptians and they would be very offended
by that sentiment.

SPEAKER_03 (55:13):
I think if they look at their history, they would
have to agree because Egypt wasconquered by Arabs.
Like when you lose a war, youcan't deny that you know.

SPEAKER_01 (55:24):
So since everything apparently relates to the Jews,
I I just want to point outGermany is now going super
nationalistic, a la the UK withraising flags and talking about
immigrants and everything else.
Good, like like Europe isre-arming and becoming more

(55:45):
nationalistic.

SPEAKER_03 (55:47):
I think Europe's uh Europe is starting to realize
they need to start fightingback.
I don't know if they will,though.
Britain is gone, Britain is notgonna come back from this.
I don't know.
Way too many Arabs live there.
Sorry, very way not Arabs, waytoo many Muslims because most of
them are Pakistani.
Way too many Muslims live inBritain and have full
citizenship to ever go back.

(56:09):
If there are maps out thereshowing the areas that are under
Muslim control, and so that onlymat that only matters until
people get so pissed off.
Well, you you don't think theArabs are capable of violence?
Sorry, the I think they are.
You don't think the Muslims arecapable of violence?

SPEAKER_01 (56:29):
Oh, I think they are, but I think that they are
not yet a majority, and noagain, this is why seconds is so
wonderful.

SPEAKER_03 (56:40):
Neither was any group that that revolted a
majority.
Revolutions are started byminorities in every country,
yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (56:48):
Well, anyway, we'll we'll see, but uh yeah, yeah,
Germany following suit.

SPEAKER_03 (56:54):
I I I think there's more German nationalism
potential than Britishnationalism potential.

SPEAKER_01 (57:00):
Well, the Germans are far more militant, that's
for sure.

SPEAKER_03 (57:03):
The Germans have put up with an awful lot, and we
know what happens to Germanswhen they put up with an awful
lot for a while.
What's that?
They blame the Jews.
Had to had to do it, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 (57:18):
Yeah, it is ghost chambers incoming.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (57:22):
Yeah, it's very efficient, it is super
efficient, yeah.
Yeah, there's a there's a Jewishguy, a rabbi actually, and a
German guy who's a comedian, andthe video is German guy asked
rabbi hard questions.

(57:44):
Because you know, they're notreally allowed to talk freely in
Germany about the Holocaust andJews and no, they can't even
stuff like that read books oranything.
Like all their video games haveto remove Nazi flags, which is
ridiculous.
Why can't you play a video gameas a Nazi?
What's wrong with that?

SPEAKER_01 (58:04):
Well, and yeah, I mean, there's better guess
there's so there's so manythings there.
I I I'm gonna bite my tongue.
All all I know, all all I knowabout the Holocaust is you know,
is I don't know the truth.

SPEAKER_03 (58:19):
I know.
All I know is both mygrandfathers died in World War
II pretty early on.
So I always say, what do theydie of?
They died of Germans,German-led.
So if you if you look at what'shappening in Europe, I think
it's a good beginning, but Ithink they have a damn long way
to go.
The first thing they need to dois get rid of their stupid laws

(58:42):
that bring in all theseIslamists into the countries.

SPEAKER_01 (58:47):
They damn Islamists.

SPEAKER_03 (58:48):
You'll you look at the and I say Islamists very
specifically because it's notall Muslims, it is radical
militant Muslims that have aparticular interpretation of the
Quran, a literal interpretationof the Quran.
There are extremist groupseverywhere.
There are extremist Jewishgroups that have a very
different interpretation of theuh the Torah because they're

(59:12):
fucked in the head.
I'll be the first to say that aswell.
There are groups of people thattake ideas over reality and then
run with those ideas to thedetriment of themselves and
others.
And that's what we need to watchout for.
And unfortunately, if you lookat the people that have come in

(59:33):
as refugees into Europe over thelast 20 years, most of them have
not been of the mainstreammoderate variety of Muslim.
No these are these are peoplethat are coming in and are

(59:53):
shocked to discover that youcan't rape 13 year old girls.
Well why would

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:00):
Or marry your cousin.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:01):
Or yeah, I mean you you rape the neighbor and you
marry your cousin.
That's how it works.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:07):
Yeah.
I mean, we we're not jokinghere.
I mean the highest how manyshows ago was it that I said the
highest levels of inbreeding,right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, it this is this is acommon practice.
No, but what what it comes downto is you it it literally is a

(01:00:28):
almost a family bonding thing,right?
It it's creating this we are weare tight, right?
Because your your cousin is nowyour wife, right?
It it does promote a blood ismore important than anything
sort of mentality, and you seethat in a lot of this, and it's
it's quite frankly, not just thethe Muslims, the the Jews, the

(01:00:53):
Talmud says it's fine to rape agoy as long as it's in an
unnatural way.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:58):
You know, well, I'm gonna put a stop to this right
now.
Saying the Talmud says is likesaying that every book ever
written about Christianity saysChristianity does this.
Yeah, you can't just make ablanket statement like that.
That there are tons of thingsthat were said a thousand, two

(01:01:21):
thousand, three thousand yearsago that should not and are not
treated by modern people of thatreligion as being literal.
That's just not the case, and uhthere are a bunch of clips
making their rounds.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:37):
The point is you didn't let me finish.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:40):
Yeah, I didn't because I stopped you at
bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:42):
Hold on, hold on.
The point is one group stickswith what their book says, the
other largely doesn't, yeah,right?
There is this growing upmentality.
So here I am trying to defendyou.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:59):
Islam doesn't either for the most part.
It's a it's Islamists, theminority of the people that take
shit literally, but what youcan't escape is that in Islam,
in literally their holiest book,the Quran, we have the Prophet
Muhammad taking as his wife a10-year-old girl.

(01:02:21):
She was actually six when shebecame his wife, she was 10 when
they consummated the marriage.
Like, that's not a notes writtenabout the religion.
That is literally the mainprophet of the religion doing
this.
Same thing with dogs.
You know, I went through andlistened recently to a lecture

(01:02:43):
on the Quran why Muslims hatedogs.
You know why Muslims hate dogs?
Why?
Well, because the the prophetMuhammad did not like that his
Aisha, his wife, was payingattention more to her pet dog
than to him.

(01:03:06):
And so he said, get these dirtyanimals out of the house.
I don't want them anywhere nearhere.
And uh, like again, this isrecorded in one of the hadiths.
This is not like some commentaryabout it later.
This is actually in the Quran.
So you can look at the rationalefor most of these things, and

(01:03:27):
and what's amazing to me is onceyou look at if you treat the
Quran as a historical document,what's amazing to me is that
people still would consider thisguy to be a prophet, given how
he acts so frequently counter towhat the God that he claims to

(01:03:48):
represent has stated in hisprevious prophets and previous
books.
Like if you're saying thatyou're the last and final
prophet, and the prophets beforeyou are guys like Moses and
Jesus, you would think thatwould be a little consistency
between there.

(01:04:09):
You would hope if that's thesame actual God that you're
trying to represent.
Now, if it's a whole differentgod, if it's some djinn and and
uh you know, or Satan orsomething, that'd be different.
You don't expect to haveconsistency, but you get very
little consistency when youstart reading the Quran.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:29):
Yeah.
So there's there was I I haven'tfinished it yet, but there's a
great little podcast about uhthat Allah is ball.
Yeah.
And you know, I again I I I I Iput people won't like this, but

(01:04:51):
I put Muslims, Talmudic Jews,and Mormons all in the same
category.
I think of it as a corruption,that's all.
But anyway, regardless, yeah.
So yeah, Germany going morenationalistic, lots of
interesting stuff going on inthe world, and you know, we

(01:05:15):
haven't even touched some of theother domestic stuff going on.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:19):
Yeah.
Where did you want to go?

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:23):
Uh we did the shutdown, but we haven't talked
about Arizona.
Arizona just lawsuit was justwon in Arizona to force them to
validate in all counties the uhcitizenship of what I hadn't
heard about this.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:40):
I'm surprised.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:41):
Yeah, lawsuit won in Arizona.
Let me look it up because itjust happened a while ago.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:59):
If I could type.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:10):
So ongoing lawsuit that was just one to block
anyway, to make sure that theyhave to remove non-citizens from
the voter rolls and they have tovalidate the they have to
validate citizenship.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:26):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:28):
Before putting someone on there.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:30):
That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:31):
Yeah.
So but I don't think Arizonawill be a swing state anymore.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:37):
Yeah.
I don't know, dude.
There's an awful lot ofCalifornians in Arizona.
A lot.
Yeah.
So New Mexico just has a lot ofdrug users.
That's the issue there.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:54):
At least Albuquerque does.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:56):
Yeah.
Well, yeah, but not just though.
I mean, I I there there areareas of New Mexico you drive
through and you're like, I'm notstopping here.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:05):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:06):
It's it there's a reason that the setting for
breaking bad was in New Mexico.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:12):
Was in New Mexico, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:13):
And it's not just one city.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:16):
Yeah.
The other thing I wanted tobring up is the Antifa stuff.
Have you been tracking that?
Yeah.
So not only has Antifa beencalled a domestic terrorist
organization, but obviouslyTrump has leaked to people like
Glenn Beck and a few others someinformation on the funding
because I don't know if youwatched Glenn Beck's program

(01:07:38):
last night.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:38):
I did not, no.

SPEAKER_01 (01:07:40):
So he did a whole thing on the foreign funding of
Antifa.
They are about to declare Antifaa foreign terrorist
organization, which actuallydoes legally matter.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:50):
Yes.
Yeah, and that's there's been afew guys that have been
petitioning for that for awhile.
Look, it look, it's gotten tothe point where literally these
YouTubers that I watch aregetting contacted by the FBI to
provide information on what theyknow about Antifa and other
things.
Because you know, I watch a lotof these guys that like like to

(01:08:10):
go out and film protests andstuff.

SPEAKER_01 (01:08:13):
And he knows that he's been.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:15):
Yeah.
And and FBI is well, he's an OGman.
Yeah.
Uh original gangster.
He he is he was doing that shitand getting beat up for it,
getting his jaw broken back whenconcrete milkshake.
Yeah, when the government wasvery different than it is today.
So, yeah, I think that's a goodthing.

(01:08:37):
I would love to see federal.
Well, I would love to see afederalization of a few places,
frankly.
I don't think I'm gonna get mywish, but I'd love to see
Seattle federalized, I'd love tosee Portland federalized, love
to see Chicago federalized.
Because if we did that andcleared out all the corruption
that's currently running theseplaces, what we would find is

(01:08:58):
that the citizens themselveshave not wanted these things
ever.
But the minority of people thatgot in power that have set up
organizations that feed anillegal army called Antifa in
this matter, that is effectivelydriving what they want done that

(01:09:19):
but can't do legally, they justhave Antifa do illegally.
I mean, there ought to be recRico charges filed, there ought
to be a lot of people gettingfederal prison time out of this
deal, if it was up to me.
But you know, things move slowlyin the real world.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:37):
I I will say one thing Trump is sending troops,
yeah.
So, you know, we yeah, Texastroops in Chicago.
That's that's absolutelycorrect.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:46):
I'm my my heart just is it's so happy to see good
Southern boys going and kickingsome ass up north.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:56):
Well, and uh I don't know, did you see the video of
the one Antifa protester yellingat the National Guard officer
who is standing or not officer,but anyway, National Guard
standing outside, I think thiswas in Portland, I forget what
federal building, and he goes,What's your name, soldier?

(01:10:17):
What's your name?
Spitting on him and all this.
And he just comes up with a canof mace, sprays it straight into
his face.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:24):
Sergeant Pepper.
Yeah.
Sergeant Pepper, that's great.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:31):
Like the wittiness of that soldier.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:36):
Oh man, that is that, yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:39):
Like, it was just so hilarious because this guy's in
his face thinking he's not gonnado anything.
I'm not gonna touch him, he'snot gonna do anything.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:46):
I think I would love to have an un-Americanism
commission set up and startlooking at all these
black-faced, not face, but youknow what I mean, black faced
covered Antifa dudes wearingblack clothes, black coverings
on their face, all that shit.
Because they think they'reanonymous, they're not

(01:11:07):
anonymous.
Well, everybody will be ready toturn them in if there's a price
to be had.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:12):
Here's the thing.
So, right now, that anonymityhas, you know, uh Tim's talked
about it a lot, you know.
Oh, he's the one who hit me.
Well, they're all wearing thesame clothes.
How can you know?
Yeah, yeah.

But here's the thing (01:11:25):
as soon as they're actually declared a
terrorist organization andthey're wearing the uniform of
the terrorist organization, theycan be hunted.
This becomes a very differentthing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:36):
Oh, yeah, it's not about taking you to prison,
buddy.
You're you're a foreign uhterrorist, you know, you're
you're gonna get if you'relucky, you'll get captured.
If you're lucky.
Yeah, and you know, what if wecapture somebody who's a spy,

(01:11:56):
somebody who's acting in anothernation's interest, we hold on to
them for life.
I mean, we used to put them todeath, but uh, these days we
hold on to them for life.
And you know what we need?
We need some public worksprojects in Alaska to start
building some facilities.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:16):
You keep saying this.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:18):
Well, I'm you know, keep my fingers crossed, it
happens.
Because we need it, we need itto happen.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12:25):
So prediction time Chucky Schumer's term is up next
presidential run in 28.
Do you think he's gonna retire?
Or do you think he's gonna losethe primary to AOC?

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:46):
I think both at the same time.
I think he will retire when heloses the primary to AFC.
I think he's going to eitherhave a little, you know, a
preemptive deal where he getssomething out of it and retires,
or he'll end up losing to AFCbecause AOC will definitely is
way more popular than he is.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:07):
Yeah, well, have you looked at the stats?
AFC is the most popularDemocrat.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:13):
Nah, not really.
I mean, for that area, yes, butnot nationwide.
Did you see the stats fromPolymarkets?
No, so polymarkets has who'sgoing to win the the next
election, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:26):
XYZ race, yep.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:28):
And it's open to you know everybody, right?
So the number one spot is Vance.
Most people think Vance is gonnawin the next election.
The number two spot is GavinNewsom, and it's a very close
second spot, it's like threepercent behind Vance.
The next spot is AOC, and Ican't remember who's in the

(01:13:51):
third spot or the fourth spot.
But AOC is like 10 or 12 pointsbehind what's his face, giving
some.
Yeah, but she's in there, she'sin there.
Oh, and I I remember now.
The fourth spot is the rock.
Yeah, because I guess he'sexpressed some democratic

(01:14:11):
leanings and has thought aboutrunning.
Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
And of course, all the commentsare like, well, as long as Mr.
Paper doesn't run, people arejust can't help themselves.
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah.

(01:14:32):
I definitely think it'srealistic to see a Vance versus
a Newsom challenge.
I think so too.
You know, he's fucked upCalifornia enough, he needs to
move on.
Yeah.
So even more territory.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:49):
Yeah, so Letitia James is facing charges.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:53):
I saw that, yes.
Mm-hmm.
Bank something embezzling orsomething with banks.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:01):
No, mortgage fraud.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:02):
Mortgage there you go.
Yeah, mortgage fraud.
So yeah, the you know, fuckaround find out thing is coming
true, which is great.
Love to see that littleSchreidenfreuder in there as
well.
Stir that in.
Yeah, that's it's good stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15:25):
So what video games have you been playing?

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:27):
You know, mostly the same ones.
So Gray Move.
No, no, no.
I I would only play a littlebit.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:37):
Sweated it out, huh?

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:38):
Only a little bit of so the thing is Grey Zone, that
video game is as I mentionedbefore, it's the most realistic
first-person shooter game.
It's a very good modern warfaresquad-based gun simulation,
first-person shooter thing.
It takes place in Laos.

(01:15:59):
So, if anything, the heat addedsome realism to the game.
Sweating my balls while mycharacter is sweating his balls,
lay ocean, and I I kind ofreferred to you as firearms,
whatchamacallit, simulator,firearms, uh, like gunsmithing
simulator.
Yeah, because the weapons inthat game can all be taken taken

(01:16:22):
apart into their constituentparts, like in real life, and
you have different brands ofparts.
You know, there's like four orfive different manufacturers of
suppressors, there are multiplemanufacturers of the uh AR
platform or the M4 platform, andso you can build your own custom

(01:16:44):
gun essentially in the game,which is what I've been doing
quite a bit, both on the AK andthe AR lines.
And it like that part of it tome is almost as much fun as the
shooting part of the game.
But yeah, it's been fun.
I've had a couple of new guyscome in that like I know from

(01:17:05):
games playing with them othergames that have started, so I've
been helping them as well, whichhas been good.
And then, of course, EliteDangerous, still doing that,
because that's the space gamewith all tons of different
activities, and then World ofWar ships, because occasionally
I still have a hankering to gosail a ship and shoot some other
ships.

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:28):
I wish I had your time, Gene.

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:30):
No, you don't.
No, believe me.
Uh it's yeah, nothing new,nothing new on the horizon.
Although I think this comingweekend, in fact, maybe even
tomorrow is the launch day ofBattlefield 6.

(01:17:51):
So probably for the week afterthe one you were doing.
Yeah, I was doing the beta of,yeah, yeah.
So when that actually launches,launches, I'm gonna guess the
next week or two is gonna bespent primarily on that game
instead of the others becauseit's new.
But you know, Battlefield 6, asgood as it is, as much as I
liked it during the play, is Iwould never call it a

(01:18:13):
simulation.
It is very much a video gamebased around first-person modern
warfare, whereas the Grey Zoneis a lot closer to a simulation,
and it's a game that will punishyou for doing dumb things
strongly, and it'll punish youfor trying to you know be a

(01:18:36):
Leroy Jones very strongly.
It's it's pretty easy to loseyour body and all your stuff
with it in that game.
Where in Battlefield, you know,death is just a resurrection
instantly.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:53):
Yeah.
Well, there's differentpurposes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:58):
They do different audience, different purposes.
One has a probably about a40-year-old average player age,
and the other one has like a20-year-old average player age.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:09):
Or 12.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, they're there's yeah,they're probably more on the
teenage side than 12, but yeah.
A lot of people will be playingBattlefield across age groups,
but certainly a lot more youngerpeople will than playing.
I I don't think I've talked toanyone in gray zone that wasn't
employed.

(01:19:32):
I think everybody is in at leastin their 20s, but plenty of guys
in their 40s, 50s, and 60s.
Has a very large militarycontingent of people.
You have way too many guys thatare named Sarge.
In fact, one of my friends is alieutenant colonel in active
military that I just pulled intothat game.

(01:19:52):
So there's a there's a lot ofpeople that are enjoying it.
So if you want to check it out,check it out.
It's never on sale, so there'snot even a need to wait for
anything.
Either you're gonna like a gamelike that or you're not, but
it's still pre-release, itprobably won't be released until
two years from now.

(01:20:15):
Yeah.
You got any interest in tryinguh Battlefield?
Uh any nostalgia?

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:24):
Yeah, some, but I just I'm not gonna spend the
money on it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:27):
The beauty of the game like that of Battlefield is
there's very little commitment.
It's not like you have todedicate, you know, right 20
hours to play it.
It's you can literally jump inwithin 10 minutes, have your
gear and be especially onmultiplayer.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:44):
Yeah, no.
Are you are you but are yougonna do the campaign or not?

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:48):
Well, I don't know if it even has one, honestly,
because we didn't get a campaignin the beta, we only got
multiplayer, so I don't evenknow if it has a campaign.
I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
The old ones did for sure.
I'm sure it has a campaign, butthere's like it may have a
campaign whose only purpose isto teach you how to use the guns
and the weapons and all thegear, yeah, or it may have a

(01:21:10):
full-length campaign like someof the older ones did, where you
know it's like a 25 hours ofplaythrough.
So I I I can let you know thenext podcast which one that is,
but certainly the big fun aspectof that game is the multiplayer,
yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:31):
The well, any of them, like Call of Duty and all
that.
Call of Duty also had the zombiemode, which was awesome.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:38):
Yeah, I was never a fan of Call of Duty.
Uh I've played a few of themearly in, but as did you ever
play zombies?
No, I stopped before that.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:47):
Oh, okay.
Do yourself a favor and just goplay some of the levels of the
zombies.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:53):
I got so many games that I've already bought that
they haven't even tried yet.
Right, but pick that up.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21:58):
Just do the zombies because it's it's infinite
enemies coming at you in waves,and you have to like it's it's
it's non-stop shooter action.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:10):
I get it, but you get basically non-stop action
with playing against humans.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:15):
Not the same.
Not the same.
I'm telling you, I I absolutelylike I remember in college when
the first zombie stuff came out,me and my friends just sitting
around playing for hours tryingto see how high of a level we
could reach before dying.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:33):
Before you get killed, yeah.
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
I get it.
Was there anything else?
Let me check our oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:45):
What they've got the one of those Olympic videos just
came up.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:49):
And it's the uh the silent challenge just went
global.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:55):
Okay, you gotta send that to me, so I'm gonna have to
look for it.
That is great.
Put it into no reporters, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:10):
This is the level oh, this this is the infile
infantile sense of humor I havefor sure, but this just makes me
laugh.
So it's literally women withtheir mouths taped shut.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
All right, there you go.
You got it.
Oh, that's the best one.

(01:23:30):
Yeah, that is the best one.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:32):
They're seeing how long they can they can get talk
talking.
Oh my god, that's a tough one.

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:38):
So France stayed calm.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:42):
Italy stayed focused, but America just
couldn't take it anymore.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:49):
I believe that, man.
That's a uh not a hard one.
Let's see, they're mostlysending me juvenile stuff that
would not really for thepodcast.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:59):
How dare you?

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:01):
Well, how dare I?
Okay.
Six girls, but you can only haveone.
Yeah, that's the kind of stuffBen sends me.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:08):
That was in the group.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:10):
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:12):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:13):
Let's see.
What else did I have in there?
Okay, well, I mean, honestly,some of mine are pretty juvenile
too, but uh yeah, no kidding.
Anything else that comes uppolitically that we talked
about.
Oh, did you like that hand-drawnone?
I thought that was prettyhilarious.
That starts off basically doingline drawings of like nudes, but

(01:24:36):
that keeps drawing and lookslike they're actually just parts
of other drawings that havenothing to do with nudes.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:42):
I don't know that I saw that one.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:44):
Oh, just scroll up like four screens and you'll see
that one.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:47):
You're talking about on No Reporters.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:49):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I mean most stuffI put in there these days,
because there's more than justyou that's gonna think it's
funny.

unknown (01:24:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:25:01):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, there is a lot the copone that was funny.
Why is that cop standing so faraway?
He's wearing his buddy cam andtry to get you in frame.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:10):
That that is horrible.
I mean, it's brilliant, but it'semotional damage.
Yeah, exactly.
Emotional damage.
That's exactly right.
Uh, so I don't know, Ben.
I mean, the the the I think withthe shit that's happening right
now, there's so many movingballs in the air.

(01:25:31):
There's not a morning that Iwake up that I don't read the
headlines on X, and it's neverwhat I expected.
It's always something new andsomething different, and and yet
equally as amazing andinteresting.

(01:25:53):
Oh, looks like right now Russiais starting to finally target
Ukrainian energy infrastructure.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:00):
Well, I mean, after Ukraine targeted the refinery,
yeah, yeah, and continuing to doso.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26:08):
You know, I I I agree with you that the
headlines aren't ever what Inecessarily expected.
But one of the things I'll sayis I'm really kind of how do I
put this?
I'm very cognizant and aware ofwhere we're at politically here

(01:26:31):
domestically.
When you saw you saw the guy whowas gonna try and bomb the
church that the Supreme Courtjustices were in, right?
Yep, you know it's been said fora long time, where's the
off-ramp?
We could easily devolve intocivil war.

(01:26:54):
And I'm to be honest, a littleshocked that we haven't.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:59):
Well, how would we know?

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:03):
What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:06):
I mean, I'm I'm sorry, I'm reading my
ex-comments comments.
Like, well, dogs actually bringvalue to this world, unlike the
Jews.
So the I think it's like boilinga frog in water to overuse the
overused analogy.
I don't I'm I'm kind of with TimPool on this, in that we're

(01:27:26):
already in the civil war, wejust haven't agreed as to where
the start was.

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:34):
Fair enough.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:35):
People are getting killed, people are going to
prison, we're picking sides,there's you know, what we don't
have yet, because we're gonnafind it in our rear view mirror,
is where's the Fort Sumter?
Like, what event was that?

(01:27:56):
And I suspect, I could betotally wrong on this, but I
suspect it may end up beingCharlie's murder.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:09):
Like, up until that point, we just agreed to
disagree.
After that point, no.
No, we're gonna stick to ourguns, we're not gonna agree to
disagree.
And I I'm loving what I'm seeingfrom part of the Republican

(01:28:29):
Party, but not the other part.
Like part of the RepublicanParty is look, we have to press
hard while we're in power tokeep them from ever getting
power.
That's the attitude they oughtto have.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:45):
And then then there's the other thing.
Yeah, I watch all of Nick'sstuff.
I get sent a lot of Nick'sstuff, even though I watched it
by other people.
Nick is the kind of politician Iwish we had here.
You know, not just a patriot,but somebody with such a great
sense of humor.

(01:29:06):
Did you see the photo of Nickand his wife on his first like
his his last day before hisfirst tour?

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:17):
No.

SPEAKER_03 (01:29:18):
Okay.
It's hilarious.
Let's see if you can find it.
So it's imagine Nick a hundredpounds later.
Maybe a hundred, maybe even morethan a hundred pounds later.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:31):
I mean, he's he's a fit guy, he's not fat.

SPEAKER_03 (01:29:34):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's not fat, but he's he's likea fit 200 pounder, right?
Yeah, and I think he's like sixfoot three or something, you
know, he's not a short guy.
So imagine him at about 110, 115pounds.
There's no way super skinny,tall guy whose uniform doesn't
really fit.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29:55):
Huh?
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:29:56):
And his wife looks hot.
you know that i can't imagineshe's in the she's in their
early 20s very very femalefeminine looking nick nick's
wife is not she's not how no ifyou look at her right now it's
like you you would not thinkthat's a MILF but in her early
20s when they got married whenand like he looked like a skinny

(01:30:23):
dork wearing clothes that arenot good fitting for him and
that's his uniform he's justleaving for the military and she
looked like the chick that'sclearly gonna cheat on him while
he's gone so I don't think shedid obviously they still
together but I I woulddefinitely say that at least

(01:30:44):
physically the military madeNick that's kind of what happens
in the military yeah but I guessmy impression is the guys that
are gonna you know enlist areare already kind of the jocks

(01:31:04):
Nick was not a jock he did notlet all look like a jock when he
when he was in that photo hejust looked like a tall dorky
dude haven't seen it I'll lookuh I think he posted about a
week ago I think it was liketheir 25th anniversary or
something or 20th I don't knowwhatever it is somewhere around

(01:31:27):
there but it was it was inbecause they took a second photo
in the exact same spot exceptnow and like you know Nick is a
fit 200 pounder now he he hisframe is is right for that
weight in that first photo helooks like he's about a buck 25

(01:31:51):
I mean great guy I I I I knowI'm 5'10 and I know what I
looked like at 125 pounds yeahyeah uh yeah he it just you look
at him it's like holy shit didhe come back different so but

(01:32:16):
yeah he I love his videos I likehis little short quips that he
does I like his long formpodcast that he does I like the
guy his uh partner in thatpodcast uh brings up some great
points that he does I can'tremember the guy's name but he's
good as well yeah the wife isthe most annoying generally part

(01:32:37):
on there yeah I mean it wouldn'talthough she she's like Ian
right occasionally she rolls a20.
Yeah right but yeah dude andI've met Ian and I just I don't
know how he spent as much timeon Timcass as he has because
like obviously they're friendsobviously they're friends but

(01:33:00):
90% of the time plus you gottalook at the guy and go Ian what
the fuck are you talking about?
He's one of those friends we'veall had these friends yes where
you're like ah yeah yeah he'snot that bad like he's the
friend that you're tellingeverybody else he's not that bad
he's one of those friends butthe stuff he just comes out with

(01:33:22):
is usually not just contrarianbut it's almost like have you
not been listening to theconversation at all how the hell
do you come up with this it'slike well but you know I mean we
generally we want to haveeverybody like live and be happy
and like Ian that's not thepoint not the fucking point no

(01:33:45):
so and uh I guess the the otherthing is you know he's he knows
where all the bodies are buriedoh for Tim Cast yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah he's been hangingaround Tim for 20 years so he
knows there's a lot of peoplethat that have got come and gone

(01:34:05):
out of Tim's wake and Ian wasaround for all of them yeah so
and because Luca's definitelyout of Tim's wake at this point
why oh you seen him on anytimerecently yeah this week he was
on Timcast yeah I didn't see himon Timcast really yeah while Tim

(01:34:30):
was down in Florida okay or notwherever he was yeah well Luke
lives in Florida right but Ithink they were at some TP I
don't remember oh okay but yeahTim has started traveling more
that is true he always used tocomplain that he can't travel
well he's having people guesthost so he can travel and go do
stuff yeah but he could havealways done that but the in the

(01:34:52):
past he's never wanted torelinquish right what I think
happened was when his voice gaveout and he had to have people
guest host yeah he realized ohthey can kind of do it without
me like like bringing in anaudience but yeah yeah yeah
that's true I I I would I thinkthat and getting married has had

(01:35:15):
a positive effect on him becausehe's been with that chick
forever but they weren't marriedyeah I have you ever seen a
picture of her no nor have Ihe's he's done good on keeping
that under wraps yeah he hasI've seen like pictures of
chicks he's fucked but I'venever seen a picture of his

(01:35:37):
current wife so yeah good forhim I think he's he has managed
to do what a lot of peoplehaven't which is to maintain a
level of like the show is himwhile at the same time growing a

(01:36:00):
staff to a a much better sizeand doing a lot more stuff away
from the show itself I I thinkthis is something that like
Linus Tech Tips did as well ishe managed to take something
that was like a five manoperation with him in front of
the camera for everything andgrow it into a 150 person

(01:36:24):
company where he's only in partof the videos and he most of the
time isn't the one leading thevideo anyway.

SPEAKER_01 (01:36:31):
I I don't even know what he does for money like it
it doesn't seem impossible onhardware huh?

SPEAKER_03 (01:36:39):
Oh you mean Latinus?
Yeah they publish theirfinancials they're one of the
few shows that publishes themyeah but I haven't looked at
that I so I just don'tunderstand how he makes it's
about 20% YouTube revenue about45% revenue of their own
products like screwdrivers.
Yeah and then the remainder aresponsored things and they're

(01:37:04):
they're doing what were theydoing i i think they were doing
like five million that's prettydamn good yeah but I mean it's a
it's a 150 person company wheremost people are making you know
30 bucks an hour you thinkthey're making that much or less
I don't know it's canadian moneywho knows well that's not real

(01:37:26):
money that's why I said whoknows 30 dollars canadian okay I
can buy that you can buy thatokay dude I watched a video of a
chick complaining about howinfosec doesn't pay shit today
because she graduated collegeand her first job only paid

(01:37:48):
$52,000 and then she asked for araise three months later and
they didn't give it to her saidwe'll talk about this later so
then she applied somewhere elseand there was a$7500 job mind
you this is like while she'sfour months out of college and

(01:38:10):
then she went to her boss andsaid well they're gonna pay me
$75 and and the company she wasat just gave her 25k bump and
pay and uh you know like notthat's not still not going to
make her happy obviously butsomebody with less than one year
of experience in infosec andshe's complaining about making
more than the average americanwage yep the fact people are out

(01:38:35):
of their people are out of theirminds.

SPEAKER_01 (01:38:36):
Yeah they think if I'm not making six figures I'm
not making anything well and Iwill say that is a true
statement but not like boththings can be true.

SPEAKER_03 (01:38:48):
It could be true that you really do need six
figures to survive in Americabut also you can't expect six
figures your first year out ofcollege unless you're an AI
developer in which case you'regonna get 38000 your starting
salary UT grads in the AI aregetting over 300 grand right

(01:39:10):
now.
That's insane yep maybe I needto go back to school I know it's
made me go like goddamn dude Iwas a developer when I left
college I maybe need to likelearn up some AI shit.
My dad's doing AI programmingright now.
Yeah you mentioned that yeahhe's building a text of speech

(01:39:36):
model for Russian okay I meanwhich you know those generally
exist his complaint with all theAI models currently out there is
that unlike English and Russianthe way you pronounce a word
differentiates its meaning a lotmore than English.
In English you can just haveregional accents that pronounce
the same word different ways inRussian if you pronounce this

(01:39:59):
the a word two or threedifferent ways it's actually two
or three different words.
An example would be helpful anexample like I gotta okay so I
gotta think in Russian and Ican't think he do it what fail I
can't yeah it's a fail.

(01:40:20):
I can't think of an exact wordbut I'll give you a fake example
it'd be something like saying ifyou say like like I am working
and that sounds or could it'spronounced differently but could
be spelled exactly the same wayas I had been working.

(01:40:46):
And the differentiation betweenthe had been and am isn't a
separate word like it is inEnglish.

SPEAKER_01 (01:40:52):
It's just the slight difference in pronunciation of
the word it's certainly adifferent conjugation right same
spelling no change inconjugation.

SPEAKER_03 (01:41:05):
No change in spelling you're supposed to
infer by context okay it's Imean it's like it's and it's in
English right spelled the sameway but it's actually pronounced
the same way but you're supposedto understand which meaning of
which it's it is based on thewords that precede it.
Right?
Okay.
Something like that.

(01:41:26):
So his whole thing is getting AIprovided with a plethora of
content for its learning to thepoint where it's because
theoretically at least the AI issupposed to use context.

(01:41:46):
It's not just supposed topronounce individual words it's
supposed to pronounce based onthe context of the sentence
right and so that's what he'sdoing and he said it took him
about a month to figure out howthey're doing text of speech
with AI in in uh what the hell'sthe thing everybody's using

(01:42:06):
right now chat GPT no no no nono python so yeah he's not like
using a tool he's actuallywriting it right and it's I I've
never understood why pythoncaught on personally oh it's

(01:42:28):
because it's retardedly easyokay well maybe that maybe
that's all it is then because Ilike it's not it was never
designed to be a real languagedesigned to do manipulation
scripting.

SPEAKER_01 (01:42:42):
Yeah yeah but yeah now half the apps I get for
video games are written inPython it's nutty don't
understand it's it's just a petpeeve I mean there's it's a

(01:43:03):
relatively straightforwardlanguage that can be you know
used for a variety of things andthere's a billion libraries for
it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:43:13):
Exactly so I I don't know why this surprises you it
doesn't surprise me itdisappoints me why I don't it
just I don't like it I I I don'tlike bloatware I've grew up in
the age of elegance of code Idon't like things that just like

(01:43:33):
no app should be more than amegabyte if you ask me okay
Steve Gibson if you can't writean assembly you shouldn't be a
software developer.
Okay Steve Gibson all right fairenough fair enough I'm not as
bad as on that note yeah yeah wecould wrap it up yeah I um but

(01:43:54):
seriously I'm not as bad asSteve Gibson but there is a a
certain part of me that's likeyou know I wrote a C compiler in
C in college not because thatwas an assignment but because I
was too lazy to do it on theschool's mainframe like I'd
rather do it on my Mac using C.

(01:44:17):
Mm-hmm that's the school that Icome from not the fucking oh
there's a billion libraries outthere and just use Python well
whatever I don't code anymore.

SPEAKER_01 (01:44:33):
So yeah I don't well the last language I really used
like extensively I think I'vetalked about this in the past
but it was Ruby on Rails.
And the reason why is becauseMetasploit modules were written
in Ruby on Rails.

(01:44:54):
That makes sense I I gotta giveyou some work updates but we can
wait till tomorrow on that one.

SPEAKER_03 (01:45:02):
Okay.
All right sounds good we'll seeyou guys next week

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