2-Year Anniversary "Listener's Choice": Help Is On The Way w/ Kountry Wayne

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, kIPS, fam it's Christopher A. Hazel and this is
a throwback. You don't want to miss Country Wayne. Join
me on Keep It Positive, sweetie, and gave us more
than last. He gave us game, from his hustle in
comedy to his faith in God and building an empire
from the ground up. Wayne reminded us that consistency, vision,
and stand true to yourself really pay off. This episode

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hit hard for dreamers and doers alike. Let's get into it.

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Hello and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive,
Sweety Today, I have missus Jesus is Bob and him. Yeah,
Country Wayne, Yaayane Coyley, what do you want to be
addressed as Dwayne Man?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
People call me Waynyne. Yeah. People just be like Wayne Wayne.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Okay, so Wayne, we got Wayne in the house for sure,
better known as Country Wayne. You have a new book
out called help Us on the Way. Yeshi is what
we titled this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay, that's what's I.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Think about, help Us on the Way. The first thing
that comes to mind is that church song.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah help Yeah, I can't yeah yeah, Whitney Houston sounding on.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
She did Yeah. I love her version, so good, so good.
Let me just tell people a little bit about you.
In case you don't know, count Wayne, you're a comedian
of social media personality who was formerly a rapper. I
didn't even know that.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, yeah, I just spit. But it ain't work.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
It didn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Nah. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
You're known for your comedy content, which is what how
I was introduced to you on Instagram. But you had
a video that went viral in twenty fourteen on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Is that when everything just kind of went Yeah, that's
when it, well, they the video took off, but I
didn't take off, but I took off with it like
I kept working.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Saw something.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I'm on to something here. Yeah, I already knew for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
That's good. Okay. You made funny short videos about life's
inconvenient and unfortunate moments, and then since twenty fifteen you've
been doing stand up comedy, which is really taking off.
I've noticed that you're on the road all the time now,
and you've appeared in films such as Brazilian Wavy, The Turnaround, Holiday, Heartbreak,
and then most recently the movie We did Together, Praise.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Praise, Ye Yes, Yes. Some of the other movies you name,
I don't even know where they did you do this?
One of them? Oh, no, I ain't really do that?

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Which what?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
No? No, it was something you know how I beat
you know how you first thar, I ain't gonna knock
the people moving.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, I guess I didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Don't watch it.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
That's what we're doing this. We're gonna find these movies
that I'll let you know how it goes. Okay, So
I remember I met you on the set of Phrase This.
You were the DJ. Yeah, you had some really funny
moments and that two funny. And you're very quiet on set.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah. I'm a quiet person for real. I'm a I'm
a great listener.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Mm gotcha. Okay, so you I, I guess you are
extroverted when it comes to work. Yeah, but like Wayne
in real life is just kind of chill.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
I'm chier on real chill because that's how I soak
up my content. Okay. I listened to people, so I'm
a great listener. And in order to be a great talker,
you got to be a great listener. So I just
like to listen.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
So tell me a little bit about you. I know
you grew up in a small town in Georgia where
at a young age you were exposed to criminal activity.
Get into I want to know.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
A little bit more. Yeah, man, I know. Well, hey,
it's in a book. I was a dope boy, so
you know. I was a dope boy at the time.
My daddy was a dope boy. My uncle was a
dope boy. So you know. I hustled. As soon as
I graduated high school two thousand and six, I started hustling.
Immediately I got caught. I got ten years probation. Then
I tried to go working nine to five, but child
sport were kicking in, so I had Uh it wasn't enough.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Wait, man, how many kids did you have by then?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Then? I was twenty two with seven kids?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
M Wayne.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah wow. Now why everybody be thinking now they don't
know I've been on it. I ain't been really you
doing nothing. I ain't been like that since twenty two.
I'm thirty five. Now you've been like that. I ain't
been like that since I was out there, like from
the age from the age of fourteen to twenty two.
THO was my you know, the my real women days.
Yeah wow, So people be seeing me. I got a

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lot of kids. They be thinking like, but nah, I
had seven of 'em by the time twenty two, since
I was twenty two to thirty five on I had
three kids.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Wow, okay, she slowed down a lot.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Slowed down a lot.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Okay, m So get back to when you are child
sport was kicking your ass.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Child sport was kicking man. Me and my daddy boy
we would ride one day and I was like, bruh,
I asked him, was I said, man, we get some
money to go to work. I wouldn't pay better and
I get paid, Say son, I was just about to
ask why I went to the bank. Got me along
cause I always kept my credit straight and I knew
how to go to maneuvered banks. Yeah, I got borrowed
some money. When it brought me a four way four

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and a half miles was a cocaine. Uh. I ain't
looked back every since I was Damn it was Kevin flipping.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Oh no, that's right.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Wow, that's crazy. We had nightclubs all.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
You went and got alone some cocaine.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, you were a business man for real. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Business minding like to think, i'm'a go get this loan
and get this the pay the loan back paid the
loan back and still have extra money.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Still had extra money. Man, your child support, child support.
And I was chasing my dreams. So this time when
I went back, I ain't go just to sell drugs.
I was like, man, I'm go'a go be. I'm pushing
my career. So I was using the money, some of
the money to fund my rap career. Wow, you know,
and uh but you know. So that's how it was.
I was in small town, big Midland, Georgia mill.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
How far is it from Atlanta?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
About three hours? Okay, But then I went to Statesboro, Georgia,
So that's about three that's what Georgia Southern University. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Did you go to that's where you went to school?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Nah, I ain't gonna I went to college. I went
to community college just to get the student loan check.
That was my first time buying. Okay, right, oh my god,
I got this stud the loan and pail grant.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Listen, yeah, I didn't get I had my last year
of college. I got a study loan. Other than that,
I was I had scholarships, but.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
You turned them down. You turned them down.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
My parents are really big on not coming out of
college with debt.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, so I had to get that. One had to
get it. That student loan. It felt like free money.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Until you gotta pay it back, and that was free. Listen,
I know a lot of people right now like, please
forgive me for my student loans.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Black people don't forget theyself. We I don't know why
they were worry about that. Man, I ain't worry about
that stud loan beer like that. You gotta hit the
lotter before we pay that bad like nobody just paying
no stodo loan back. Your career got to be set
and then you got to show me you sat again.
It gotta be double cross, like are you showing making
this money then pay it back? Don't worry about that.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
They're like, man, who no.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Then they be like it's gonna go on your credit
for But I don't care about no credit for not
for real life, right. We care about this stuff when
we get up, like on the way up man.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, yeah, when you're down, you're not thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I'm trying to survive right now. I don't care about
no stoo loan or hospital bills. You should have got
me when I was at the hospital paying that stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, we're getting a comedy show with the show that
I love this, this is so good. Okay, so you
ended up going to Statesboro then, how like, what was
like the ships where you started to see okay, you
selling drugs? And what was the shift for you? Like, Okay,
let me did does your career start taking off for you?
Like I don't have to do this anymore?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Or was I sold drug two thousand fourteen, when I
went viral with the comedy, I quit the rapping thing
right then and I just started big assistant. But I
was still I had over a million followers, people knowing me,
and I still was hustling the whole time. I had
a night club and then I got my second night
club so I could finally quit selling dope cause I
wasn't getting no I wasn't getting shows like that. I
was getting some shows, but uh, January two thousand sixteen,

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I finally quit for real and I started. I said,
i'm'a do this comedy for real, and then I started touring.
But I was making like thirty forty a month by like, man,
this ain't nothing, cause you know the child's bot, you know.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Uh, But then this time you had how many kids?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
We was up to what I was at. I was
at eight eight okay, I was at eight. But what
happened was I went to a show one day and
I made twenty comedy Club and I made like twenty
grand in one.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Week out all in a we You like, oh, I can.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Do this W one W one weekend, Yeah, I said, oh,
often offen make a meeting off Yeah. I knew I
was about to make it. So then I was like,
but y And that was two thousand sixteen when I
really felt that confidence really quick, and uh ever since then,
you know, I just been grinding.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
I love that. I love that. So I know a
lot of comedians find humor in the inconvenience and their pain.
As Kevin Hurst's laughing my pain? What is that? What
really started? And what was the s Then You're like,
I'm gonna talk about this. I wanna shed light on
this and let's make fun of it.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Oh, because I uh, I had I had uh information
on the streets, so I knew nobody couldn't tell my
story because most people don't make it out the way
I did. And I was sober through the whole thing
cause I never did drugs, so mm the whole time
through my mama life, my uncle's life, in my life,
I was able to capture these moments and the picture,
you know. And and women, you know what I'm saying.

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So I kN I learned women. My mama told me
a lot about 'em m. So me learning women. I
knew a lot of people weren't gonna be able to
talk a about it as detailed as me because I
listened to women.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
So you were sober through it.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
So, yeah, I'm sober. So I know what.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
So you don't drink and nothing, don't do nothing?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Nah, I don't do nothing? And you yeah, wow?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
So you just a temple is just clean?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well, it ain't nobody a perfect for God. But I'm
I drink water.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
If not your visits. Yeah, the business that pades for sure,
I know that's right. So you have a new book
called Help Is on the Way, Stand Up and Live
your Truth, and you talk about a couple lessons in
the book, and one of them was sometimes all you
have is your pride, and that's often the only person
who can help you push you forward. Is you. You mentioned
in the book about being introduced to God at the

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age of six. Just tell me about your experience in
your face, cause you're very vocal on Instagram one of
and I'll be honest with you, one of the things
that really made me say I want Wayne on this
show was when you talked about forgiving your parents. That
was I talked about on my get to Know Me episode,
So things I went through my childhood and just the
pressures of that and learning as adults to forgive our

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parents for whatever. You know what I'm saying we have
been holding or whatever. And when you said that, I
was like, wow, he holed me. It was like the
timing of that post was like precise, and I was like, wow,
I just even your perspective and to be mature enough
to be like, hey, Dad, I forgive you.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
What.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
How was that journey even being introduced to God? And
how was He with you even when you were doing
your young the things?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Man? I just you know, when when I was young,
I heard my grandma and my mama don't talk about Jesus.
So I was I chose to believe it for real
they was talking about them. But I'm a little child like, Okay,
this is what we believe in. So I really was
crazy enough to really believe in Jesus and at six
years old. Like I put in my book, I was
talking to a flower one day and I was like,
I know you can talk. And I was like, I

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ain't gonna tell nobody if you just speak to me,
it's between me and you. And that flower said, well.
I went high. I was till my mama the dom
came out there. I said, look the flower talk. I said,
come and listen to the flower. I say, look, now
I know. I said, I won't gonna tell nobody, and
that flower ain't say nothing to them. But I always

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had crazy faith, and I seen it work. I felt
on the bicycle one time and I flipped and I
told my mama. She came out and run and I said, no, God,
he helped me down to let me slow. So I
had this crazy faith and I just seen it in life.
Everything I got in, I was able to get out
like I was able even when I sold drugs. I
know Jesus were real because he cleaned my reputation. I

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got all these kids and all my past. But when
people see me, they don't feel that energy off man,
I'm like, but it was him. But I picked up
the Bible twenty twelve, while I was in the streets,
cause you know you lose them when you know you
lose God on the way to life, when you start
wanting to be yourself. And I learned even though I
wasn't with him, he was still with me, and I

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felt his word because he can't be in no mess.
That's why he give you his word and coming sense.
So I know it was the difference of having his
word and having him. But two thousand twelve, I was up,
had money, had you know the call. I was like,
I'm up in the wrong world. I say, I'm I'm
the man working at McDonald's is actually better than me

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right now because if I got a one hundred thousand dollars,
I'm in the streets. I'm on a negative end of
the rule. I remember in school, you got zero, one, two, three,
four five. Yeah, a negative fifty ill gotten gain has
no lasting bag. And it says that in the Bible.
So I'm like, I don't really so far behind. So
I picked up that Bible. It was my niece Bible.
And I still got that Bible. I it's in the

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truck right now, and I s nobody told me how
to read it. I said, Man, everybody was telling go
to this verse, go to that verse. I started from
the beginning and I read it through it to me
bout the year and to this day. I read it
through seven times on my a trip now and I
don't miss a day. But it was that word, wow,
that was the origin of life and I and once
I tapped the end of that, he started getting me

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out the sh streets. And then when the social media came,
I always knew what it was. I had just read
a verse. He said, try try, try that, and he say,
perhaps all of them and could happen. And I've seen it,
and I was like, so everything something something comes. Oh
this what I can you know? It's preparation for it. Wow?

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All right?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
A man after guy's on heard that's amazing. I love that.
I love that you. It's very impressive that you've read
the Bible seven times and you're on your eighth trip.
That's crazy. A lot of people don't have that attentions. Man, like,
how long do you read?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Every day? I read? I read a page. I read
a page to day. When I first started, I guess
my spirit was so hungry. I was reading like fifteen pages.
But then I got to the point where it only
has to be one.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Time or day because you know it now, it's just
more like a refresher.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Nah. It's just like it's so much if you read
too much, it's like it's like good food.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, okay, good.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
It's potent. So you got to take it in and
that verse be that first be in and everybody be
trying to understand why they read. And I had to learn.
You don't supposed to understanding all the time. It's like
if you take medicine for your foot, you don't know
how I get to that. You go through your mouth.
So the Bible, when it comes in you, it comes
out when needed. And it really helped me with business
for real. I get mine, you do. I every deal

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I just can fit on. I just know what to nah,
and most of the time, but by the time it
come to me, it already be because energy just no,
you know. So that Bible is important for real, especially
when it come to this world, because this world is wicked.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
It is it is a very wicked world. Did you
ever go through a season of unbelief and staying away
from God maybe because of what you were doing, or
were you like always like tapped in there was never.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Sometimes people try to run away.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Wow, people try to the church.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
The church try to run away. I don't. When I
had the nightclub and then we have successful night, nobody
got in a fight, nobody shoot. I'll put on Facebook,
thank you God for letting us have a a a
safe night at the club. And people from the church
in the community were like, we don't like the way
country Wayne putting God God and what he doing?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Why?

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I said, why would God go help something that's clean? Yeah,
d w we in the club we had a save night.
I don't care what they say. So even now when
I did the Jesus popping brand, people like you you
putting that in? What you doing? Cause you know I
got the women in the skits playing these roles. I'm like,
bruh Man, Jesus and whatever I'm doing, hello and and

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and if I'm doing something wrong, help me get out.
So I need 'em anyway, So nah, I never I
never lost my faith. I lost a lot of things.
I lost money before, I donet lost people, but I
always held all my faith. I ain't never cause that's
all I got in there. Yeah, you know that's so good.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Have you ever like, how do you push? I know
there's been dark moments in your journey and I we
don't have to go to people. Oh no, no, okay.
What are some of those dark moments? And how did
you like when nobody else is watching, nobody sees Wayne.
What are things that you do? And how do you
push yourself out of those dark places?

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Man? I give it a god. Man. When I get
a headache, I give up quick. I'm like, I'm dead,
God help me. I die. I don't try to fight
through nothing, So I give it a godly Like during
the pandemic, I was broke because of the pandemic. Head
I had like one hundred grand, but I was about
to go on to something line fin, to gona make
that little self hunt real quick. You know what I'm saying.

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But pandemic hit. We can't work my bills for seventy
grand a month. M I was like, I got down
to thirteen thousand. Wow, I was. I was selling nutril bursts.
I was about to sell it. I had put a
tat on. I had it on a link tree. If
you could, if you could have, if you could have
screenshot my link tree, you would have seen nutrient bursts
up there. I had got me. I had got me

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a box truck offen do Amazon rocks. I started, Yeah,
but I was, I was. That was a dark place
because now I don't worry about my family because I
know I got faith. Yes, yes, I got faith. I
wasn't worried you were gonna be good. But they they
faith is in my money. So I'm like, you know,

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so really I worked hard just for their cause I
got him. But that was a dark place. I'm like,
now they finish worry so much. But I was kind
of happy that they got to see that moment because
now they could realize it was never my money. It
was my faith while I got money, but they ain't
believe it. They thought I had money. I'm like, bro,

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I ain't got it. I had to show a counsel
But yeah, but that was a dark moment, man. But
I remember the feeling. I'm like, here we go again.
I did my head just like this. They went to
counseling the show. I did my head. I remember my
head did just like this. Mm God, here we go again.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
My brother over there, he told me, say we finished.
See if all this help us on the way? Stuff
is real? Hey, it's a liberties was watching my stuff
tell you this how I know bruh. So everybody watching
me screen Jesus off. So so they waiting on some
sometime people wait on something bad that happened to me,
cause they were like, is he gonna keep that joy?
Yes to liberies were watching my page. And there's one

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guy who got a podcast. He was like, man, the comedians,
look at messed up. Now it's one of 'em. I
seen him trying to sell some tea. He was trying
to but they were just wanting to see, Yeah, what
I'm gonna do now? And I was. I was grateful
for that moment because in that moment, but again, just
like he did back in the day, he turned my
life around to the point where I don't even need

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the industry me. He gave me something that is so
unique and so for me. So yeah, I in the
dark moments, I just give it to him. Yeah, well
I ain't leaving it. I ain't leaving him. I don't
give it I cause uh, he ain't gonna embarrass you.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
At all.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
You know what I'm saying. I don't trust the world.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah. I remember during c COVID, and that was a
hard time for everybody. I was blessed enough to still
be getting paid because I was on Tyler's payroll, so
I was even through that time, I was, I was.
I didn't miss anything.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
That was nothing but the grace, nothing but God. Yeah,
I should have been over here.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
I wasn't here yet, was at the townhouse. But I
remember just it was just even like the isolation and like, okay,
what come anytime something like that happens and I'm going
through it again with the strike that's happening right now,
I always find a way to how can I come
out of this better? You know, this is the time
that God has set me down. What can I do
to hone in on different skills? And now I'm in

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the position I feel like I'm in my own pandemic
with the strike because we're not working and acting with
my bread and butter. I got two shows and that
was like I'm like, I'm good, Like I can just
enjoy work, literally work up one month out of the year.
And thus I booked something else for those two shows.
Can we shoot really fast and then I have the
rest of the year to just enjoy my life. So

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now that we're not working, we had it's worked in
March or April for sisters. And then I was like
I was supposed to be working right now for as
a team, of which is my big check. So I'm
like I'm good, you know, like thinking I'm good, and
now it's like we don't know when we're going back
to work. So it comes in like budgeting and like yourself,
like overhead is like fifty k over saying for everything,
and it's like cool, okay, like everything you see like

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my accounts, like all right, we can this is what
you can do. We can live off of this for
however long, but you have to stick this budget. So
now Donor and I are like working on other things
and it's just this pandemic that we're going through right now,
what we call it. The strike is forcing me to
like look at other streams and things I'm passionate about
and things that I love. So it's like a restructure

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phase all over again.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I think, yeah, I think a lot of people. Somebody
asking me about that the other day, I was like,
what do you think is gonna do for actors? I
think a lot of actors are going to be more creative, yes,
and business sadly after this, because it's going to force
them to because that's what it did for me. Me,
I wouldn't never if it if I would have had
a bunch of money put up, MM, I wouldn't have
never built this because it because sometime when p people

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got to know, like that song William Murphy got is
working and it's your season. Ooh, when you know you
got 'em. Everything that go bad is in your faithor
it is, so you got to just soak that in
black m no matter how. And it get ugly cause
the devil he sent tests. God don't test nobody. See,
people don't know that the devil the only ones sent tests. Wow,

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you know he sending tests. But as long as people
hold on to that faith. And I know that sounds
like Grandma them and and and be like all everybody
been said that, but boy, that faith in him, yeah
every time. And mm, that's what it is. I think
that's what it's gonna take. Uh you know that's what's
that's what's happening now. Cause the way they shut out

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of the industry, I was like, hold up, brother, I
understand they trying to get more money, but they gonna
get people some money vo for because right, I notice
you we need But it's it's it's a crazy time.
And on that way, I feel I feel for sometimes
when I see people go through stuff, man, because I'm like, well,
if they ain't got their faith, you know what I'm saying,

(23:09):
But that faith is gonna get everybody through everything.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, no, absolutely no, for real. You also talk about
living in your truth. Let me say, don't hide from
where you came from. Celebrated this is what makes you original,
and a lot of people from the streets shy away
from talking about their love for God and fear of
making them look soft. We talked about you talked about
it on social media all the time, like you're like

(23:32):
Jesus is being popping. That's what I love about you.
It is like a man who does not mind like
screaming from the mountaintop. Have you ever had people like
why I know you said during the pandemic, people like
we just looking to see like if you're gonna lose
your joy? Have you had people like come to you,
like recently or doing your journey saying like why are
you always like streaming Jesus?

Speaker 2 (23:52):
That's the question I get. Really, that's the question I
get the most. But now I used to talk about
it online but God told me to hush. Now as
they see my life going up, they don't really caution
no more. They starting to believe because it's the way
my career being is being. It's just been a different ride.
And it's just like and I went on Good Morning America,

(24:12):
and I remember, you know, cause you can't for real,
they don't let you say Jesus in these places. It's
just like it's just bad for business. They ain't, we're
not against it. But I went on Good Morning America.
The first thing they did was zooming on my chain.
My publichers was looking like wow because she couldn't believe
because they were kind of like, you know, you know
how they are about it. But it's what I learned.

(24:33):
It's people out there, even in them evil places that
rap him. They're just not bold enough to say his name. Yes, yes, absolutely,
what I learned people who say his name strong people
out there that that are really in their industry. But
because I got some people out there in my favor
that be pushing for me, like yeah, and it's like,

(24:53):
but people are that's the question. They get me, like
that Jesus thing everybody want to know? Could everybody die?
I know our Grandma told her that and we got
we got. People don't got away from it. And it's
like that's the universe now, it's yeah, now universe. Man.
I hate people come talking about when your birthday, Oh
sat well happened to Leo. You ain't know he was
gonna break your heart. I'd be like, man, come on, man,

(25:16):
I'm not They mean everybody people don't know how to
put the batteries right in their remote. But also they
know about the star. Yeah, I'm like, bro, come on, man,
we just the same thing grandma and I'm talking about Yeah,
he's been around that long for a reason.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
He has he as and it is. Our industry is
very very funny about that. I love it when people
get on stage at award shows and say thank you Jesus,
thank you know what I'm saying. They like give not
just thank you God, because there's.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
So many guys in this world, you know, exactly.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Like there are different guys, but there's only one Jesus.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
There's only one Jesus. But and people scared. But if
you pay attention, the people I've seen really standing on it.
The industry can't stop him.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
They can't.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
It's a dude, in Marvel Chris Press, I love him, yeah,
and him be DM and the like I told him.
I say, I seen him going there one day because
deep down that's what only thing they said I had
seen a god say, he say, Man, the devil is
not scared of your good deeds. Only thing he feared
is Jesus name.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
That's why they trying to shut it up. They trying
to ship it because it's power. It's power just in
the man name. If Siri got this much power, and
I could say, a Siri, what's Martin Luther king birthday?
And she answered, imagine how much more power Jesus God.
I've seen it and I've used it. I used it.
He he he tied. He probably tired me caught because
some of this stuff. He'd be like, you know what

(26:37):
I'm saying, some of this stuff, Oh got good at all?

Speaker 1 (26:39):
SI.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
See he tried it.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
He just tried it. He was like, we're gonna stop
this right now.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
But Jesus reacts faster than SIRIU man. And it just
it's just because people can't see it. I know, for me,
bruh it than him.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I met Chris Pratt when I was going to when
John Gray had his church here in Atlanta and he
was filming something and he came to the back and
told us a story about when he was running one
day here in Atlanta through the woods and just really heavy.
It was a heavy day for him and I just
need to go for a run. So he goes to
a running he sees this random bench in the woods

(27:17):
and he was like, why is this bench there? And
something just said sit down. And as he sat down,
he looked down and he knows like a stone on
the ground and he moved the leaves and it said
be still and know that I'm God. And he was like, wow,
Like it's funny, like God found me as I'm running,
you know what I'm saying, trying to clear my mind
and set me down.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
And I saw that and I was like, that's powerfum.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
So I just love I appreciate artists like Chris, like
you and myself who like don't who aren't afraid to
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
You can see it on you though, yeah, you can
see it on you. Like but when I first met you,
I was like, because I seen you on TV and
I'm like, man, ain't no way this person looked this
nobody don't see this. It's just like this. You gotta
walk him filter filter, It's like it's like this globe. Man, man,

(28:07):
thank you, Like for real.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I just had eve On here and she was like
it was you, it was your light. And I'm just
like we were in a ball and crime. But that's
every day I wake up.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Your ear even look angelic. Your ear looks so healthy.
You see you got they're brand new, y'all. Hear right?
Had getting here surgery.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
No, yeah, that's a new thing, ear surgery.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Am not. That's not that she is, man, she's definitely is.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I want people to see that light. My prayer every
morning when I wake up it's God Like when I
walk out these doors, I want people to see you
through me and just let your light shine through me. Yeah.
So that's my That's what I ask God for every day,
is that he's is that people see him through me.
So that's really good.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
I know that.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Also in living in your truth, as you are seen
in your career, a lot of men struggle with leaving
the street tough guy persona behind and feel like they
still are kind of tapped into the hood just to
keep their credibility. Is that something you struggle with at all.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Nah, because see I know women for real. See, so
most men do that because they think women, uh they
perceive through hip hop they think women like, but they
don't know what women like or sometimes women don't know
what they like. Everybody like everybody like one thing, but
everybody love mm another.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, and I learned man.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
You know, uh, people love you for the you to
be you, so wherever you are, and ain't nobody. We
weren't born us and killers. That's true, you know what
I'm saying. Even when I was in the street, I
ain't never have no gun. I got me some money
and you know I love a pretty woman point blank period.
But I ain't struggle with that hard stuff cause I don't.
I know on me and I know I fight in

(30:00):
real life, so I ain't walk around all. They proved it.
But everybody can touch me, but I get touched back.
So nah, man, that street, that street life or something
that I would I was born in. If I was
born another way, I would have did it another way.
But that ain't nothing I was wanting to even glorify. Know,
That's why I don't even talk about it like that.
They had to make me write that book. Wow. I

(30:22):
didn't even want to talk about it cause I was like, man,
I don't made it out and that stuff just happened.
A lot of the stuff in that book. Wow, we
wrote that book twenty twenty one. I just got a streets,
I said, team, but they got lawyers involved. Mm And
I said, you sure. I was recording them on the
phone and everything. But I was on the phone with them.
I would messing record but it was like, nah, I
can't get in trouble. But nah, that tough guy. Personally,

(30:43):
if guys knew what women, they really paid attention to women,
they'll learn how to be. But they think women cause
women go through a stage, but they think that's what
they want.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
You are so right. I went through that.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I loved.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
My mom always say you like them really nice and
sweet but rough on the edges like I wanted the
little he's something like a little.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Y'all break them guy's heart. Ye see what happened. Y'all
break their heart. Then they get mad, then want to
call y'all to be word and what's the name. Then
they stay in this state because they thought that's.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
What y'all wanted. Yeah, and that's not that's not what
we need.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Then when y'all leaving for they got it. They're like,
you know, but you got to be a mister Solomon
said in the Bible. You can't be too holy, you
can't be too wicked. M I tell people, I say, man,
you say, stay somewhere in the middle. I say so.
I ain't Kurt Frankly, but I ain't Little Boost either.
You know what I'm saying. So I'm like Russell Wilson
in Future Missed Together. It's a good we're gonna sleep

(31:35):
in peace and all that. But Ione has some fun too.
Now he's yeah, I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
You also talked about don't get mad, get money, get money,
ignore people who want to tear you down, and provide
the for the ones who love you. How have you
navigated changing your friendships as you succeeded when it comes.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
With like, man, somebody ain't really trying to get no money.
We better be talking about something.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Is that? Friends and relationships? Like with your significant what
your woman too?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Well, wall I ain't got no.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Woman, I know, but like if what if you were
if you had one, like what was you? What would
she need to do? She need to be getting money
to or getting.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Nah, not really, she just need to be Yes, she
need to be getting any real money. And that's that's
taking care of herself. Drinking water, you know, cause that's
the main step before we do anything. We gotta drink water.
Cause you got a billion dollars and and and uh,
you're in there tracking fish and they don't go together.
So we gotta we got to drink this water.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Uh, I'm done, Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
So I really just want a woman. When I say
I want her to love herself. That's the main thing. Man,
put that energy into her, because you can't love somebody
more than you love yourself.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
And do you practice the same thing?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Were you? Yeah? I love me? So when I give
mine off, I ain't never been in a relationship where
a woman wasn't happen. Okay, she always had it because
i'm'a love me. So whatever I give off, yeah, you're
not pouring from It's like production. Yeah, the better this
post gonna be is gonna be the better of the
the the pre production.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
So if I put my time in this pre production,
by the time this peace come out, I ain't gonna
have to say nothing about it. You gonna feel it. Yeah,
you gonna feel Ooh did the director make that person
turn their head and do this? Did they take the
time and do a whole nother scene?

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Mm?

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Because it was the energy they put in the pre
production got so I put that in me every day
behind closed doors. So when I you know, when I
give it out, they gonna feel it.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's good. Have you had any old friends call you
like a sell out or cheat you diffinitely as a
real results of your success or had to let people go?
Cause I know for me, I went through recently what
I call a pursing season, where like I saw that
I was ascending and certain people weren't happy for me
or supportive, and I'm like, okay, what'm you know what
I'm say? Where is this really going? H Have there
been people where it's like, oh, you didn't change or yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
For sure, how do you do with that? I don't
really care. Uh uh, I don't care about nothing, but
I'll be ch I can't even try to care.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Mm I.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
That's always been one of my flaws in my strengths.
My sister say, I never care for what nobody else.
I don't. I just don't care. Yeah, And I think
that's how I'm able to be creative. Yeah cause I
don't even care what my fans think. Why about my content? Real?

Speaker 1 (34:16):
You just that's good cause you you're doing it for,
like this is what you enjoyed doing.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
This will come. I don't care what the industry say. Yeah,
I just don't care. Mm cause how longer if he
loved me, Man, he ain't finish. I ain't finna give
you the power control of my life. Use sometime the
Double he know he can't get you, but as long
as he get a moment out of you. Mm So
like the devil would be like like, yeah, I don't
say now to Double, I got sixty five years out

(34:41):
of you though. It's like that God told him my
life when when when when they were about to shoot
the guy here like the state of Mississippy got forty
years out of you. Know so, uh, I don't care.
I don't give people that power. Man.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, why you're around me? R Tyler when you say that? Yeah,
cause that's how I feel like, that's why he is
so successful.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
He does not listen to nah Tler. But and real
people like great people recognize great people. Cause man, I
remember when Tyler period had them DVD. I mean it
was a DV was a DVD or the tape. I
know this was DVD. I remember going to my friends
and be like, man, this my deal. Person's so funny.
I slid it in. I'll say, well, y'all finna laugh.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
So they watching it, but this one, I know sometimes
the world is stuck on trends. He wasn't trending yet
to them.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Mm.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
They watching it, and they watching it, they don't see
what I see. I want stuff they talking about. I'm like, man,
this funny. Seven weeks later, the bus going around by
Tyler Perry, they were watching it one day. They bust
out laughing. I say, man, y'all so fake. Wow, y'all
not even control of y'all own emotions.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Control the media has.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
But the world got you yes, and the world is
saying so you don't even know what's mm good? Yeah.
Like when I look at you, I'm like, man, like
I told you that I was that girl or a
beautiful woman in the world. You know what I'm saying.
But they might they might have got you ranking, but
they probably like this, but this person got more. I'm like, no,
So I never cared, so I could see I just

(36:03):
never cared, so I handle what people don't like me
or mad about something I move, or they wasting their time,
Cause yeah, that's good and you'll.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Go far with that too, because a lot of times,
I know, as a woman in the industry, I have
got caught caught up in that, like what people think
and how I'm perceived. And I feel like I'm in
the most free space of my life where I don't
care anymore and I'm allowing people just to see Crystal.
You know, I used to try to like hide certain things,
or I always say I'm giving so much my life

(36:33):
through acting. I just want to have everything else be private.
But like nobody knows why I'm not sharing the blessings.
I'm not like allowing people to see all that.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Guy, gott let them see you, girl, Yeah, you gotta
let them see you because you get you walk around
with a filter. You got a natural human old gain filter.
You gotta let them see you cause you as they
need to see that.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, I'm working on it. I denorhere has helped me.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
You can't remember what Jesus homeboy people told him. They said, man,
you got to go ahead and show people who you is,
cause the world ain't gonna know you until you yeah
to pull up side. He put up sideways on the donkey.
Yeah yeah, yeah. He had to show Jesus see people
throw Jesus. That's why I name my brand Jesus Poppa,

(37:18):
because people think Jesus is born. So the world made
it seem like Jesus are all people wanna CORIACI preaching, judge,
that ain't Jesus. That's people using his name, yep, but
instead of letting him use them, and Jesus is the
coolest the flies. I tell my son that's why I
fight with the world and my sons, because you know,

(37:39):
it's rappers and a lot of people out there. If
my sons didn't see that women like me the way
they like me. That's why I let them see how
women act around because I'm letting them know you can
still be this. Yes, this who they gonna look now.
They gonna like him for a moment. But Jesus was
the coolest. His name still buzz ate, no brand niked.
Nobody is out let asking Jesus and we ain't even

(38:02):
seen him, isn't it. We ain't had no pictures now
in man either. Either. He real good. He was a
camel because we ain't seen nothing, and this joker's brand
is going. I love it. So you got when people
believe in Jesus, the church will be like, we're gonna
sit back and we're gonna wait. No, man, Jesus nad

(38:22):
because nobody don't want to follow that big soup. Yeah,
and that hadpened be yo, put that drip on it
and shine because when you step out there, he's gonna
help you. Step out there cause God now cut yeah,
and God him out here walking on his water. You
better help me because I fall off. You know, they're
gonna say nothing. I said, it's a pandemic hard and

(38:45):
I've been seeing your name and I'm on social media,
so something. I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
You know, I'm right with your guardless, but for your name.
And yeah, here walking on the water. Man it water,
my and my knees are we.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
They shoot Jesus keep working for me. Hey, get me
out of here now. Oh my gosh, I give it man, Frill.
They brought this strike. I'm like, oh what. I already
ain't trust the industry the first time you hit me
when it shut down, So then I'm a comforting deiler.

(39:26):
I got some projection. Say, God, did he hit again?
I said, oh hell no, they never get me again
to believe maybe you got me up. I remember we
have projects coming out. What right, I'm just stopping. Yes,
you should have called me a year ago. I would
have played my life accuordingly. Let me know, don't stop

(39:47):
nothing like this. Ain't no people be coming. No, I'm
staying over here. I don't want to help my agent.
They can't get me comfort in no more. It's nothing
until them. Don't sit with chick Hello.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
That's right. No Manhess, I'm sure you like that probably
helped you build your own table. As Tyler said, it's like,
I'm not going to depend on anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I don't trust Nah. That's what made do it during
the pandem, I'm forced to. But not even doing this
because you know, I got a Necholi specially coming out
and they was like and this I know God, Well,
they say, the only thing you allowed to promote is
coming special, so you know my net has to come out.
I said, tell me, man, that was God.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Even this was saved by that.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
But you know what I runed though. People got to
stop praying, start praying because I said, I said myrother over,
I realized browing the word everybody praying and one person
blessing could be another person demise because I'm like, I
can't say thank you God, he shut the intererestry down

(40:54):
from me right, because I'm like, but what about all
the other people? So now I realize that's why I
don't pray. That why the only thing as God. Let
God's will be done? A man, Yes, because we pray
for storms. I worked for this power company one time.
We used to pray for storms when storm coming and
when we hope he hit, could we get some overtime? Mm?
And when it hit, we say thank you God for

(41:15):
the overtime. But it's so many people don't got hurt.
So what I learned, man, the Gods, that's the only
prayer everybody should be praying.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
That's it, all right? Need I say that too. I
used to be like, please do this, Lord, I want
this Lord, God, please change this person, please help me
with this. And it was like this long list of
things that I'll be praying about. And then I read
the scripture where it says don't go in your closet babbling,
just say the Lord's prayer. That would be done, and
that's it. And literally when I took that on, I
realized that the things I was praying for were one

(41:44):
too small, and what God had for me and what
he was showing for me that he had was way
bigger than I even imagined.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
That's real. So that's I hear you preaching. Not girl,
you don't know what you just said. You think you
just said it something normal. Most times people say something big,
they think it a big one of that big you
just said, some girl, because that is so true. That's
so cause we don't know what to ask for, because
we so we're a piece of saying to a thousand
beaches to God, yes, my baby. Mamas try to give

(42:13):
me a child' support. They can't get me because they
don't even know how to ask for enough. I had
to help them. Your Lord, you wasn't good enough. Let
me give you double that. They can't hit me because
what your brain can't even not even fathoming one yes,
And that's what you don't realize. They need to let
God will. Just trust his will because what we because

(42:36):
what because the dangerous thing, whatever you pray for, you
eventually gonna get. That's why, old girl, the Lallah got
it from Sampson because she kept aggravating. And God, he's
a father of all things, and he asking me, I'm
gonna open the door for you, and you're gonna say
thank you, But he are knowledge No right now, Willsdom
know in time? Yes, there's only one prayer. God will

(42:58):
be double. He can't stand here, baby cry. He gonna
give you that passify. And sometimes in life, very very
seldom you have somebody in your life who who who
a grandparents or something who's stopping you from getting your
blessing too early. If I would have been this popular
at twenty two out had all kinds of women, God knew, Yeah,

(43:22):
time is not yeah, because now I'm too sleepy, I
ain't got the energy. I'm like, well, I'm tired, right,
But nah, that's what it is, man, It's it's God's
will man to be done. And that's what people got
to And when you, when you live like that, you
really see it's enough for everybody. It is everybody's supposed

(43:44):
to be. It's too many rich people out here for
everybody not to be feeling it. Somebody being greeted, M God,
I don't make it. I give away by give to
my family of my business. You know what I'm saying
about three hundred or four hundred a month. But that
four hundred month touched so many people. But when I

(44:09):
say it, we need in the family. It touched so
many people. But it's people that's making triple what I'm making.
I'm like that, why because people don't believe in God's will.
Everybody's nowadays online they teach you how to keep your
money for the future. That's all they trying to do.
I'm gonna be dead what you're talking about about? This?

(44:31):
All right? Man? This I ain't starting that. I'm trying
to Hey, so, but what it is that's people who
he told you, man, money gonna be the love of money.
You know, money is a low frequency Why I told
a god one time, I take care of my baby mom.
O'kay a man like man, You simping, No, you simp

(44:53):
because you giving up energy, My energy reserved. I give
away Federal reserve. They have no warrior. You better start
you a little preacher over here too, that I'm preaching.
I ain't. I ain't trying to preach.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
He said, I'm getting way Federal reserve, not my energy.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
But God's will. They trying to put together. Everybody trying
to prepare their own wheel. They set in their own
wheel up. But we ain't good and the devil, the devil.
People don't know the devil don't come in your life
to horm on purpose. He tries to be God. He's
so bad. A blessing because this how the inasry turned out.

(45:37):
This ain't God. Now, yeah, because even if people make
it through the stress of what am I gonna make
it through? See, they would let God handle it. It'll
be different because what happens in the industry now, so
many projects, you know what I'm saying, so many projects,
what happen. It's a lot of selfish people and ages
in the in the in the studios and the people

(46:00):
if you know this project ain't gonna work in your heart.
People I hire people because they like them. And you
playing with other people money. You playing with other people money.
Now if this don't come back, and we got to
stop in a minute, because I'm not about to.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Keep losing exactly.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
But it's people. It's people that'll be like, put this
person's project because you putting your own wheel together cause
it's gonna benefit you. But not knowing that they will
keep turning everybody going.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
But you know, so it's good you talked about giving.
And one thing that Andy Norman, who works at this
he's one of the vice presidents at Tyler Perry Studios.
He leaves it work and goes to Bible study every week.
And when I was still costuming, before I became a
costume designer, even started styling Tyler, he called me one day.

(46:45):
He said, I don't know why God put you on
my heart during Bible study, but he told me to
tell you this, and I was like, what do you
tell you? He told me to tell you that your
living is in your giving and I was like okay.
He's like just remember that, and I was like, okay,
I got it. So I've always been like a Tyler,
like I always make sure I give God his and
help people as I can. But as I began to

(47:05):
stand in like gang Wealth, I was like, wow, like
I knew exactly he didn't even He's like Chris, I
had no idea why God put that, but he knew
where you were going and he knew where he was
taking you, and he didn't want you to forget that.
So I always tell I want to tell you that
as well, like your living is and you're giving and
you're doing the right thing.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I appreciate it. Man, Yeah, I ain't. No, I ain't
got no woman in my life to tell me I'm
doing the right thing. That great? Is that crazy? But again,
so let's talk about women.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Since we're on the subject. You are a father of ten.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
How did you end up with so many kids? I ain't.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Where these like relationships or worthyse.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Just my first baby moment was my high school speard.
So we were together from eighth grade all the way
to like for years. So we had three kids, Okay, nah,
I chs on her one time got a girl pregnant,
this all through it was right after high school and

(48:11):
then my three kids in between her was women I
deal with one time. Wow, and cousin that. God did
me like that? Because you know better? You know better?
My these girl got pregnant. Then I was like, oh
my god, you know what I'm saying. So I was
at I'm at six children, Wow, I don't know, you
know what I'm saying. And then uh, and then my
ex wife and and her her I had three You

(48:37):
were married okay for seven months? Said no, it was
a yeah, yeah, changed but I was with her for
ten years.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Wait, wait, together with her for ten years? Yeah, married
for seven months to a year. It was a year, okay,
a year?

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah for sure. What happened was it just like an
I married her because like, first of all, we had
got custoded at one of my daughters. I had to
go to court for us. So then I had just
started doing the touring thing. I'm like, man, I've been
with this girl. Man, I sold dope out her projects. Man.
I was like, man, I got I'm finna marry brother.
This's life cause I ain't stuck any women. I'm gonna
get it money. Yeah. When I got in industry, I
tell everybody a lot of men focus on these women

(49:26):
cause ain't never had them. See, I didn't have them,
so my focus now. Hey, Yeah, so I married her.
I'm like, man, I used to I'm finna do this.
I'm finna change my family life for real. So I
married her, man and and then you know, a year later,
I'm like, nah, God hated to leave it behind. I
ain't gonna leave her. H my first baby, mama. You

(49:47):
know what I'm saying. But I find a way I
could bring him up financially and be there for them.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
But was that a hard decision?

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah, that hard decision because you like, you know, you
leaving the women like we grew up together. So like, damn,
finna take a But see y'all ain't with it.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
They wasn't with it.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Nah, they just different lane, Man. You know, I I
started growing fast, like I started worrying about my diet.
I started because you know, I picked up that Bible
while me and her was in the project. Mm. I
was like, man, I told her you should have picked
it up with me. But she asked me one day,
she said, what you read? You ain't gonna share what
you read? I mean, I said, man, you got it
read the women. But I was growing so fast once

(50:25):
I picked up that Bible. I was out growing a
lot of stuff. Wow. So by the time I'm like, hey, man,
I'm a change person. That's so powerful cause you can't
scream his name too long without changed your character. And uh,
my character was changing. And I was like, damn, they can't.
They had first chance. They had first they had these.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Now do they do they have? Have they expressed any Regretless?

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Every woman I've been with regret. They ain't gonna find
no wain, Wayne, you ain't gonna find no way. You
ain't gonna find no Wayne that when she get a Wayne,
you your grandma gonna be excited in the world. See
it's hard to find that cause your grandma canund be
inside without your friend like but he like mm. But
I but the world could be excited. But your grandma
like he and the one for you, Man, I got

(51:10):
the aunt tie in the streets. So they gonna you
blessed and you covered. But at the same time, you
please mm cause you were in the flesh, your spirit,
running life. But the fletch got to be pleased. So
the women were the women. Yeah, they regret it. Yeah,
and a lot of a lot of women out there.
We think it's still a chain cause I'm free like
a really, I'm not in the relayship for real.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Right, But now do you lead them on to make Nah?
If they think they like that?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Okay, you know I don't play, I don't pl I
don't play with people. I don't play no game the radio.
I'm direct, But nah, but nah, they definitely R. They
definitely regreted R. But I'm petty like that. I made
sure they was gonna regret it. I worked hard to
make people regret. Yeah, my god, I'm a competitive So

(51:59):
I work on myself to be Yeah, to grow, because,
like I put in my book, man, stay up. That's
the only way a woman gonna really ever want you
and keep loving you. You have to stay up.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
Yeah, that's real. That's real. So about your children, I
see you're very active in all your children's lives. How
do you manage and like with between business and cause
you're always I feel like you're always working and creating something.
How do you like manage the time even to be
here today? How do you imagine time for your children
and your business?

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Well? I had to. I had to. I had to
retire a lot of people. Like my daddy. He I
retired him. So he take my sons to basketball practice.
He handled them like he took the kid. The girls
wanted to go to be on ste concert, He put
them in the sprinter, took them in the baby mamas.
And so basically I had to kind of like build
a village around my kid and they all help me,
and then I just make my God made away with

(52:54):
my schedule. I controlled my career so much like I
shut something down, like this something I shut the hold
I told him ain't working, and I ain't even know
the strike was coming right like that, I knew it
was the right stripe, but I'm like, this be over, yeah, right,
But then atract came. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, this
is different. So I just I put them first. And
I feel like whatever you put first, God to make

(53:15):
a way for you to miss for the balance if
you put the right thing first. I love that.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Speaking of parenthood, you recently did a post about we
talked about forgiving parents. What did you actually forgive.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Your dad for? Uh? He wasn't there, you know, the
times of need and he had it. He was in
the streets hustling and had money, but he won't really
bless my mama unless they was on good turn. And
so it was it was under condition and unconditional.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Yeah that's different.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah, So I went through things that I didn't have
to go through if he was just brought him some
money around now. So I'm like, yeah, he wasn't there
when he could have been right, and so I forgive
him for that.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Though, Did that help you see what he did and
the wa where he went wrong? Be the father that
you are today?

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Yeah? Know why I take care of my baby mamas.
Cause at the end of the day, that's a hard job.
And I learned that they set me free. Yeah, cause
me trying to control they life. Look, look, the kids
stay there even though they do got a man still
got to play on bill. Yes, I can't let the
kids sit outside cause your mama, whatever your mama doing
or whoever they talking to, and got nothing to do
with this decision we made together to have this child.

(54:24):
So it helped me understand that cause I know if
their household ain't right.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
It's not good for the kids for sure.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Do your kids live with you or they live all
with their But my son lived with me.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Tamar lived with me. But all the restaurant, they all
got rooms in there, but they don't be there. They
be with their mama. But they got a room there
and they mama stay five or ten minutes away. But
it really just be me and Tamar. Okay, cause my
other sons just went to college.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Got you what were the steps that led you to
saying I need to forgive my dad.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Man, I just don't like to waste time. M I
ain't holding nothing in Yeah, cause that was yesterday.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Was how was that conversation, like, was it hard because
I know sometimes parents our generation is really big on
like mental health and not wasting time, and we know
the importance of certain things where our parents may kind
of be stuck in their waist. Is your dad one
of people that's kind of like second ways? Was it
hard to even get through to him?

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Yeah, it was hard to get to to him. But
the thing was, when you believe in yourself and you
look at yourself a lot, you see that they were
through things. So it's a change that we know we're
coming out of slavery now. Yeah, you feel what I'm saying.
So what we expect our parents? Yeah, it's me real

(55:38):
you You're right.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
I say the same thing. I was telling my dad
this recently. I said, you know, I think about the
generational curses and how like our parents just repeat what
they saw, and you think about our grandparents who were
the children of slaves, you know, like, or you're not
as old, saying but.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
I'm older than you and spirit if you are, you are.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
And old you literally are. Yeah, I I would give
you that, you know. So, Yeah, but our parents like
it's like we're not that far, Like we just getting
out of that you know, and we're the ones that
are starting to break the cycles, those patterns. That's so true.
I literally just talked to my dad about that.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
You know. So we just getting out of slavery. So
we're spending our parents and be like, Mama didn't do this,
Mama didn't listen here man, listen my daddy, my mom.
My dad ain't take my helps and throw it to them.
Got their women mm and have them babies. Yeah, I
could have made that decision. I'd do that. So when
you believe in yourself, I got two kids that believe
in theyself and they never reflect they problems on they parents.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
MM.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Sometimes some of my kids are getting mad when they
go through stuff. They make their mama feel like I
just feel like I don't f I'm like, mm, what's
my two kids that believe in theyself? They internalize and
they work on some Wow, they don't take it and
throwing on their parents. And I was always that child
cause deep down, man, kids would lie, people would be
lit ye and one time being bad at school. My

(57:01):
mama don't about to beat me, Like, what's been your problem?
Say my uncle Chunk? Come, uncle Chunk had died. Man,
he had died to you. I want to stud the man,
but I needed something deep for them to feel sensley.
For me, I was like my uncle chuk. They were like.
She was like, what's wrong with uncle? She was like
she had that bill to that belting.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
She said, what be I said? He been coming to
see me at night? She say, what did he say?
I was like, so I know how kids and people are.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Man, there be other stuff the all like if somebody
if you come in here and you snap somebody, they'd
be like, it's because you said this. No, it's whatever
happened before that, that happened, that happened. You just happen
to be the one that they get over the god
during talk. So people know deep down, bro, people be
having all I like, man, people just ain't real. So
I don't deal with a lot of that stuff coming in.

(58:01):
People don't want to hit the real. They only talking
to me. People be going through other stuff, and most
time it's relationships. Somebody that has gone through something like Brud.
Nobody shouldn't be able to have a power in your
life to text you on the phone and change your
date for you to call somebody to talk an hour
about that. That means that we're not letting God's being
accounting of our energy. Because we let God be the

(58:23):
counting of our energy, he gonna know how much to
put in there, and then when it do happen, it
ain't gonna fix you at all. Yes, So my mom
and daddy life, I wasn't that tied into them because
the reason why everybody's heart was hurt my other siblings,
because you had too much faith in your mama and
your daddy. There's only God, and as a child, we
have time to learn that.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Ass like did we know?

Speaker 2 (58:45):
I don't know. Well, I was My family was gone,
they was drinking the smoker, So I guess I was
one of them kids grew up there, But they have
an option. My kids see me read that Bible, their
friends see me reading. So somehow in our life.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
You're giving them a different God.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
We don't see this. I don't know, like you say,
I can't say that because my sisters. I think some
children judge their parents because my whole family did drug.
And my aunt tiv Wonda, she like she my cousin,
but she my my mama, was like best friend. And
she always told us never try weed because it was
a gateway drug. But my sisters, my family always judged

(59:23):
them like y'all just a bunch of week get different.
But what happened is they told us never try alcoholic weed.
They tried it, so now they fighting not to be
an alcoholic. So instead of calling themselfs alcohol as long
as they keep them some money and have a party,
we just having a Know it hits you too, you
judge out you were functioning alcoholic. But I didn't judge them,
So I was like, that's gonna get me if I

(59:48):
get in that, that's gonna get me. So I stay
out of it. I'm not one of them people who
think I'm better than something. But when you don't judge
your parents, I knew. I said, man, that cocaine get
me too. If I ever tried cocaine, it's gonna get
me if I ever cause that coot. You got man
sometime like I see how my dad had out. Somethings

(01:00:08):
just ain't. But you have. You got a lot of
kid Yeah, my daddy got nine eight kids and my
mama had three. So I was the oldest on my
daddy's side and the youngest on my mama's side. I
got two older sisters and all, and I just I
ain't never my mama. I caught my mama doing cocaine
one day and I said, Mama, so the next morning
as I said, why you put that white stuff over
your nose? But I was so real as a child.

(01:00:30):
The one thing I appreciate about this woman she didn't
give me. You ain't see that, you ain't this and
that this and that. I tell everybody, man, my warma.
My mama's prayers allowed me to be real, and she said, so,
I just like the way it made me feel. My
sisters them would have been like, yeah, you know what

(01:00:50):
I'm saying. It's like, man, you know when you look
at life, when you be still and look at life
or what it really is, you could be real and
make real judgment. It's like, m man, come on, man,
so I you know it's just you look at life
for what it really is and stuff for how you
want it to look.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
That's real. That's real. You recently said on our differend
Be Small and Megan's podcasts Not for Sure Podcasts, you
said that you believe that the only way to properly
love a woman is to give her what God wants
for her.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Give what God want M.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Can you that really? Me and dor were like, oh, okay,
we've never really heard a man say that the way
you broke that down.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Can you break that down for me? You gotta give
what God want for her?

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
And what that is?

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
She gonna complain the whole time. MM, his wife. She
complained the whole time. And she's happier now as a
person cause I never copplied to the world when I
was in the streets selling dope. She wanted us to
be the lit couple, but I knew that want good
of r M. It's certain things she wanted, But now
she's a great mother and everything like because in the end,

(01:01:52):
that's who they gonna love. MM, the one who kept
it real with them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Man, he means she wants y'all be to lick.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
What do?

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Like? Certain things I wouldn't do in the street, like
we ain't taking no trips mama dope, but and posting
no pictures. I'm living a wrong life. God gonna be like, oh,
so you trying to get out, but you out here
showing that. So it's just like that would have made
her so happy if I would have took her on
one trip while we was selling drug that would have
made her so happy. It was a lot of things
that way.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
You wouldn't take what if you just took her on shipping,
doesn't taking pictures.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Cause I'm selling drugs, So that ain't fair. If I'm
telling God I wanna get out, that's throwing it in
God's face. If I was legit, Okay, now I'm taking trips. Yeah,
but it was a lot of things that would have
made her happy in the moment. But she would have
been with her friends at right now. M you know
what I'm saying. So a woman, it's like a child.
You know what I'm saying. We got to give people.

(01:02:44):
It ain't even a woman, just people, but a woman,
if you give her what God want for her, her
soul gonna love you mm, even when her flesh mad
at you. Mm. See what happens is a lot of
women flesh like a man, but they sould ain't feeling it.
So that's why depression come anxiety. But what happens is
when your soul, when you talk to her soul instead

(01:03:04):
of her flesh, her flesh gonna be mad, but it's
even gonna comply. MM. It's time that she's gonna complain
in the daytime, and eventually when that flesch catch up,
it's gonna be thank you because in the end she
gonna blow. Yeah, her better days are front front of
her stead of behind her. And a woman, when you
give a woman that man, she give you her prayers.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
MM.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
The name my Netflix special. If a woman prayers, I'm
up right now because even when the women I dealt
with deal with other men, they prayers are with me. MM.
Because he's every woman has a spiritual vagina and they
and that spiritual vagina is a virgin. That's why mayor
is still a version because they think this is the
vagina that could be washed out and bush today. Yeah,

(01:03:53):
that man be so happy about Yeah, I got that.
The reason why it's so accessible because obviously it's not.
It's all Lord's frequency. Mm's freaquency that spiritual vagina, and
God is only gonna let him man and a god
touch that. Some women die a virtue. But if you
ever find a man who touched that spiritual vagina, your
life gonna be changed forever.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
I've never heard this in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
And that spirit gonna be that's real. So now your
spirit finally get to feel those moments and it's different.
Open her legs because she got her leg closed. She
don't get a damn. She be like, you could do
what you want to with yours, So while you're giving
it to me, you try to be like you try
to trick hurt your spiritual It was good, like we
connected for real and it's like, girl, oh my God,
like this the one it was spirit like, I don't

(01:04:37):
know what you talking about. Then by seven months later,
it just didn't work because it was because he co
applied to you. He did everything he can to get
to that part of you and that spiritual person, like
you know, gotta think about it. The way I run,

(01:04:58):
I could easily seduce women now, but I could tuck
his head. It seemed more fun. But I'm like, no, man,
this this what they needed. I don't care, yes, because
I know this works.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Now, what does a man of God determine what God
wants for her? Like? How do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Like this, I know what he want her for feel man,
and and he want her to get back on that journey.
Cause when you get fulfilled, you gotta think about it.
Pep of them was getting whiled and everything. It was
so fulfilling just to talk about Jesus. Yeah, you gotta
think how happy was they to walk around them dirty
sandals and speak about Jesus and they found something that

(01:05:39):
was So it's like a crackhead that cracks so good.
They don't care that they teep that. Yeah, yeah, they
don't care what you say about them. They like, just
give me the fifty dollars to wash his car. Right,
I'm finna go back and get this crack. So, man,
you find that, you find you activate that back in women,
cause she influenced the world. Cause once you see women
talking about that and want that, like even even er,

(01:06:00):
just going to a man that talk about God, people
women start shifting their head a little bit. Yeah you
get what I'm saying. So it gets them back on
the journey and started feeling good to walk, eat good
food and l and live life. So once you get
on that and once she get happy. Now, if y'all
ever decide to get the relationship is supposed to be
the last thing. It's for a holy matrimony. It's really

(01:06:25):
your flesh and your spirit come into agreements, cause they
got to live with each other. So you got to
come and hold a matrimony with yourself first, cause right
now it's four people right here on his couch. My
flesh with your flesh, my spirit, your spirit. Mm. So
once you become hole, then you talk to that person's
soul and that soul gonna tell you what to tell
her to get her fleshed back in line. Wow. Then

(01:06:45):
now when you finally get to that moment, and that's
w waiting on for a woman to get to that
moment so we could be hold together. But that's that's
what it is. And and and it's hard to do
that because most men want to stay in good cause
who to get what they want cause they gonna say
and they and when they do say something triggering, it's out.

(01:07:06):
It's malicious. Mmm, it's the time. Man. They ain't really
like my baby mama. But when I told her I married,
I knew my attention was for her. When I met her,
I said, oh, make sure this girl straight, even if
we don't end up together. She got something in her.
I went over there and we talked. We finally talked
for a little man a couple months. I finally got

(01:07:26):
that cuture. I played like the cool guy. I bought
her some weed and everything, see the devil act like
a god. Sometime Dodter pretends like he'll double to get
your attention, because you know that's what they like. I
bought her weed. I bought her and her friend we
were like, yeah, I'm acting like man. Soon as I
got that cuchure and I know, I put that thing
in the next morning, I was like, hey, we gotta
wash your dishes and stuff. Now she was like, what

(01:07:48):
cause I switched. I act like I was the turn
up guy. Yes, as soon as I then she started
this and that girl started glowing glowing, glowing, and the
whole hood seen it, and and n and women around
there was trying to find ways mm that I I
seen the town change. So I learned that you know,

(01:08:09):
you get you get women back on the right track.
God to bless you. Wow, he'll take care of you,
cause he ain't playing about y'all. Y'all prayers, y'all women.
Men men don't understand that bruh like y'all control the world.
Y'all prayers are strong, y'all. That's why I want know
why women that I work with I pay them to

(01:08:32):
do their job and it ain't no me an't get
paid more than women. It's because I know they keeping
this up. It's they prayers.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Yeah that's good, you know, so mm.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
That what it is. Man just got to get that
spiritual a drowna and that spiritual drowna ain't they ain't
stilling no live. They don't care about some smooth talk,
cause it been here before the ancestors. That's true. See
that flesh don't get no. We gonna get tricked every time.
And sometimes you got to drink a little alcohol to
tell the spirit to shut up. So the so the
flesh feel comfortable giving up what it's me. That's why
most people before they cross the line, they cause that's

(01:09:05):
the only way that's flesh drag up. Like you talk
to them too much. You making me feel too conscious,
So let me unconscious or do something to take my
mind Offso now for this, for this moment. And then
sometimes I still like there I need another one shots
shot yes, hush you know, and then all say the

(01:09:28):
hust Then you wake up in it's back, see how
you feel this morning? And then people try to now
you fight and trying to prove wrong, like I made
the right decision. So what people do that end up
staying with that person long term, just so they could
prove to the spirit I was good. Then after a
year later or two years, and if you you blessed,

(01:09:49):
if it's the early cause, sometime a person to take
ten years of your life, you right ooh and get
what the spirit do every time? Come here, baby? Mm
I told you I don't be telling you that. Yeah,
stop you for having fun. But trust me, I know
I'm connected to the one. Yeah. Wow, and that's what
it is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Mmmmmmmmmm So they're talking about the spiritual vagina. Yeah right
now in your life? Are you're single? But are you
like ubstaining from sex? Are you open to sex cause
you're very spiritual? Are you feeding the flesh or you
like I'm good on it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Well, right now I'm fleshing the hungry. But it's still
got appetite. M So it's gonna eat. My flesh's gonna eat.
It ain't gonna die. I don't know he'll doing that,
but it just ain't got appetite used to have? Mmm?
Could you tired? I can't God to set you up.
I'm so busy, I literally can't you know my lifestyle

(01:10:41):
don't bump into people?

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Mmm?

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Mmm, you don't know cause I'm vegan, so most people
go out to eat. He can take you awaste so
much from stuff because man, no bad women in the
restaurants they trying to figure they just buy it back out,
you know. So it's like, you know, I'm so disconnected. Yeah,
I'm going like I'm always have said, I'm never stopping that.

(01:11:03):
God have to drop it off before I stop. Like
I'm not gonna like, I'm not gonna never stop. But
it's just organically, even if I try my heart to
eat to my appetite, my appetite is in it. Yeah,
it's just it's it's way way, way less than it
would being. It don't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Do you feel like you said somebody because you're busier now,
like you don't. I've heard men say that like when
they're focused on things, sometimes sex because a lot of
people think like sex is always on y'all's mind.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
But it is most of the time until you hit
you a certain level. Now, I just don't have the appetite.
Like it's like vegan, I didn't try to go vegan.
He took the appetite away, and this appetite taking away
from me now scared because I'm like, hey, guy, I don't.
I don't fight him on that I want this, But
now it just don't. It just don't. That ain't my

(01:11:54):
main That just ain't. It's just ain't the main course.
Because I used to be man, I was born with
a luss of spirit, like when I was young, like, man, God,
you know I want this, I want I want it.
I'm like, what is that? You know what I'm saying?
And then that that little spirit lasted for a while.
But I noticed when I started getting that word and
when I started getting off that food, I noticed, man,

(01:12:16):
I ain't have the in and I think sometimes the
hormones and that food do you having? You anmal like?
And whatever your animal spirit is. Some people it make
them eat more. Some people make it more angry. At me,
it was like I want to scoocha, you know what
I'm saying. So I have most women and this is
how it's going. But now I'm just more I move,
I walk like I walked like do So that ain't

(01:12:38):
the main thing. I like to get to know people now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
So like speaking of that, like as your single, like
how do you even like approach relationships? Like if Wayne
was supposed to to see somebody like how what would
you do.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
I'm gonna tell you straight up. If I like a person, listen,
I want to be with you for real. M. I'm
seriou about everything I say, like, I'm already thinking about marriage.
I ain't got time to be wow, but most time
to set up to that. They ain't gonna believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Yeah, they like what.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
I'll be serious, I go straight at it. Cain't got
time to play right wow. I'm like, if I like somebody,
I already know went through my mind. First, I write
my country in my mind. I never use paper, so
everything is in my mind. So I look at a person,
I'm be like mm hmmm. So by the time I
stepped to somebody, I'm like, hey man, this is what

(01:13:26):
it is. But mostly black they can't believe it. First
they they're gonna talk to one of their friends that
their friends will google you. They're like, you gotta check
this first, look at this, and then they gonna come
back with that. I'm like, well, all right, they gonna
see and where they gonna They're gonna look up and
be like, yeah, damn, I shouldn't. So I'm gonna go.

(01:13:51):
But I really like I like relationships. I do like relationship,
but it just got to be somebody who really trusts
and believe.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
That this is it for Yeah, do you feel like,
I know you balance your family, well, do you think
you could also balance a relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Oh yeah, I'm okay. Yuh yeah I could balance a relationship.
Is it's easier now because you ain't got time for
a bunch of women?

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Mm? True?

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
So a relationship is like cause I.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Feel like sometimes it's the opposite. I feel like a
lot of times when men get success, it opens the
door for more women. What do you mean you don't
have a time for a lot of women.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
The door open? Uh? They could go. They could stand
at the door all they want. They've been getting on
real energy out of me. If you want somebody to
taking naps, cause I don't. I'm not. Nah. I just
ain't got time, especially when you in the land. I
mean cause I ain't getting chicks. I ain't never got
a check yet.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Mm.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
All these chicks don't getting no crecting. Wow. Like even
in this movie, I got to go put together the
agency had to do this. I had to go get
a producer often to do this movie. You know what
I'm saying, I gotta go raise zem ems. I'm in
a I'm not in the state. I still haven't got
a check. Mm yeah, so I haven't got a time. Yeah,
because every piece of my business I never got a check. Yeah.

(01:15:04):
A first check I got was that book, you know
what I'm saying, And every other check I create it
to come every month. So I'm in that state of mind.
I stay in the hustle, and once I don't got
this far with it, I put that before everything because
this is my freedom. Yes, this my leverage be able
to walk into meetings and be like no, and I knitted.

(01:15:28):
I ain't trying to be mean. If y'all want a
black bob me, go ahead, because Jesus gee turning the
whole got you know what I'm saying, got no woman,
but nah. So relationship wise, man, it's easier to be
in a relationship right now because if I had a
woman who really on that journey with me, bro, I
ain't getting out Jesus absolutely yeah, So we ain't gotta

(01:15:48):
talk about him all the time. But we better know
that's the head cut. I'm not been getting no long
conversation about them blinds, like even be no woman talking
to me about all day, no two hours. I'm like,
we could have thought about it, you know what I'm saying.
So I just want to live and I want to
have fun. I'm at that stay not I don't. I
don't walk like I said, I don't walk across the path.

(01:16:09):
So I ain't got no trauma. I wanna enjoy. Let's
go eat together, let's travel together, and that just make
love and let's work together. Let's let's okay, what you
got going on? What's the business? Babe? What you think?
I don't know? Okay, it is me. I think I
want to be in those conversations prosperity, and I want
to be so in love that we don't even know

(01:16:31):
we in love. MM that we wake up and we
see this person every day? Are you good? I guess
what happened? Man? I just see this, you know what
I'm saying. Short conversations and and man, goddamn need hurt.
I want to say something like, man, not even hurt too.
I don't want it to be act every day, yes, babe,

(01:16:52):
like I'm gonna say it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Action the director is here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Yeah, like you know even when people try to act
like that and seeing will keep you on TV? Yes,
I'm not doing that to day, even even in acting
world that scene, Yes, were like, hey man, I want
to wake up. Last night, I sleep on the sofa,
ca my neighbors hurt, and I know it's just I
want that organic natural and I don't want to be
talking some note what we read? Yeah, to make our
relationship that man, let's figure this out.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Yeah, I love that. I saw on your Instagram that
you bought a g wagon for your future wife.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Yeah, what made you do that? Make out my mad Patty,
I did that. I did. That's marketing because the name
my specially as a woman's prayer. So I'm gonna start
doing things up to that point.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Condor Drake, he has like a closet of Irma's Burking
bags for his future wife.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
But that's a wagon I drove here, Oh you did.
I was gonna leave it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Guess what I got? What he's I drove here?

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Well, as you spend your money, you say, as you
spending your money, you're supposed to keep your see women
out days, don't got no independent thinking about it and
tell you something I'm gonna tell you. I say this
on stage earther Week. Women got they say that the
laziest women got the bacoot. Let me tell you why.

(01:18:27):
They say, because ambitious woman, you use all her creative
juices up here. M lazy woman, you doying here. I said,
That's why I like a woman that scrubs. I like
to see cause that was too lazy to go to
the school for a few years to be there. Sometimes

(01:18:47):
you gotta keep your you gotta keep your money. But
you gotta keep your money. See, some women scared to
be a scammon. Y'all was meant to be that. You
don't want to be spending your money, but you want
to spend your money because I want to be independent.
No spend money, he was mad. I gave you. Yep,
you sure did. And what yeah, I can't be spent
your all money too much, okay, because that'll cost stress

(01:19:08):
because now you're a man like you're supposed to do it.
Sometimes just talk like we were talking about. Yeah, you
don't want to do that because you want to keep
your money. Cause a woman got money, she keep her money.
She feel good every day, no matter what time. A
woman cannot handle seeing money going out her country. Now,

(01:19:29):
I tell most men, you can't even get a woman
attention to you, take care of her life. She halfway
talking to you is this person, but it's this person
in the back of her mind. She thinking about where
she got to pay me as much. So she's there,
but she's never really there. If you go and just
figure out the way, don't even tell hers. Just pay
it all center check every month, guaranteed you. No, it
ain't this ain't for nothing. You don't gotta give me nothing.

(01:19:50):
But they'll go fifteen thous the money. We can sign
a contract for five years. And first she's like, you
like that, and you're like, then you got her teacher,
so what so what was you saying about all that
stuff that you like? My eyes? She don't y'all that. Yeah,
because but women can't handle money coming out there account

(01:20:11):
my daughters bruh, I get them with lowndes every month.
I give them two thousand dollars, my daughter every month,
but live we give them the much. He has shades
on when she give a check, oh my god, every month.
Ride after the fourteen she be depressed. Her mama like,
what's wrong with I say, it's that money. They be
broke by the other half of the money. I see
they depression and I be laughing so hard. But women

(01:20:33):
cannot handle money going out. It's not good for they
psyche that jont. When a woman see that money, they
want to turn their card. I'm like, what is this right?
And I ordered, but they can't start ordering stuff. So man,
I be telling women, every woman I know. I know
some women in the industry, bro, I know some comedians.

(01:20:55):
I know some women who don't spend their own money,
and they is the press right now, and I feel
so for they still got money, but I would pray
for them because they tried that. And I'm like, y'all,
ain't a man built for a certain thing, won't build
a certain thing. I go a man go down, nigger,
you know. But a woman that ain't good for her
meals because even if she do bounce back, she don't

(01:21:15):
lost some of her health on the way to that
joannety mm. So I'd be like, man, only that why
I take that prince off, my baby mama, because even now,
because they don't got no big stash, cause I take them,
but I have to give them a stash because I
could see it on them. They walk different, Yes, like
what wrong? Do they look dark? As soon as their
money hit they'll count. I promise you it's a light.

(01:21:37):
They come, they speak different, they bones move different. Yeah,
they we ain't even glow and they even connected. That's
just we How do we tell the man the woman
can't spend a whole money all the time. It's they
can't take it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
So when we were talking, you said something about you
went to this woman, and you the girl that you
went to, and you out the weed for the friends,
and then you got the coach and the next morning
you look use. You know, you gotta wash some dishes.
So when we talk about dishes, we all in society
we talk about gender roles. Are there things that you
feel like a woman has to do in the household
and that it's some things are just.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
For a man to do. Now, you know, it's different situations.
You know what I'm saying, that woman working, that man
may be watching the dishes. You know what I'm saying.
You got to work with each other. So it ain't
no set It ain't no set life. It's just that
for a set kind of person, like some women gonna
make sure they ain't playing that. You gotta ta you
gotta help take care of me, cause I'm gonna do this,

(01:22:35):
so me, I just stayed the journey. I want the
whole time. So if I want the whole time, at
this point, we ain't gotta clean up, cause we'll pay.
But at that point we couldn't play no maid, right, Okay,
So who gonna wash the dishes? Now? I'll wash it. Yeah,
I'm cool, I'll wash it. But you know when I
go to keysh eyes and saying, you know what I'm saying.

(01:22:58):
So it's like said situation, I think each general ros
it ain't no set what a man got to do.
What a woman gotta do. Man, Cause at the end
of the day, when it's time to fight, when y'all
fighting life together, y'all just gotta look out for each other. Man.
If you tired, I gotta do this or this, call somebody.
Let me figure this out. But at the end of
the day, it depends on where you add in life.
It depends on who you are. Because some women are

(01:23:19):
gonna make you be a man. You can't be nothing
but a man. Yeah, because you ain't gonna let you
be no woman. You gonna run across some men. Yeah,
all that man stuff in you might well just be
a woman. Yeah, because that ha My past relationship to
I ain't I ain't them whoever you talk to. Melissa
Conan raided me and she taught me how to be
a man. You ain't finna be nothing but a woman.

(01:23:40):
And I'm not gonna put my hands on you. I
ain't gonna raise my boys and I'm not malicious, but
I am one hundred per cent man. So you can't
be nothing but a woman cause that Rod fulfilled. But
general Rod, you ain't got to watch no dishes a man,
or go in there watching I clean my house, my house,
it's back late. I'm a clean person. But ain't a
woman to knowhing. You know what? I'm right, so you
know it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
So what is du Wayne looking for? Any woman?

Speaker 5 (01:24:05):
If you were to tell the ladies, tell the ladies
what camera we're looking at, you can look at this
and her that's yours and be honest, and it's gonna sound,
oh cliche.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
I'm looking for a woman who really believe in God
for real and not the world. MM cause I never
had a woman cheat on me with the with a man,
far as I know, but I had a cheat on
me with the world. MM. So I just want a
woman who really believe in God. For real, for real,
that crazy faith. Cause if if, if she believe in that,
everything else gonna follow in order. Anyway, I don't need

(01:24:41):
no woman who gonna clean up, even though I love her,
won't clean woman, cause we could pay somebody to do that.
I don't need no woman who makes no money to
get some money. I don't need no woman who. I
don't care if you bruh, I don't care what it is.
But if you just believe, you could come as you walk,
because that's gonna work in order, and we gonna live
in our own world and people gonna pay attention to us,
right if, like why they so happen? You know, don't

(01:25:02):
be picking stuff out from the world bringing it back
home cause he told us not to eat the apple.
But we're still on the iPhone with the app on
the back bed off steal in the tree, picking up
everything and bringing it back home. And God said, don't
bring it back. Wow, I won to believe in Jesus

(01:25:23):
for real? Did y'all hear what he just said? We still.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Got that iPhone with the apple in the bag.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Bringing it home?

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Mmmmmm gonna We're gonna just leave it right there. Oh
my gosh, I'm blowing away. That was the whole ople study.
So good, so good, no, so good, Wow, thank you
so much.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
I appreciate y'all, man, I appreciate the sofa and the
whole morale. This is great what y'all got going on.
And this is right on time.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
It is on time. We're almost Then we're gonna we
have a listener letter where people write into us and
give them advice. So I'm gonna read letter. It's called
positive Outcomes, and this youngly says, Hi, Crystal. I'm a
forty four year old woman who just ended a six
month relationship with a thirty nine year old man who
I've actually known for years. We finally decided to link

(01:26:21):
up one day and had great conversations about life and
past relationships. Come to find out, he made all the
qualities that I was looking for in a man. The
only problem was he was broke and jobless. I stayed
in it for six months and fell in love with
the potential of him being, of him becoming the man
that I wanted him to be. Things got ugly within
the six month. I knew that it was God releasing

(01:26:42):
him from me. I experienced a great deal of trauma
in the past three years and actually felt secure in
the moment for all the wrong reasons. Although we don't
talk and everything is still fresh, he still talks to
my sister, who was in a relationship with one of
his family members, as if he and I never happened.
I keep trying to figure out what is it about
me that keeps falling from men who don't meet my

(01:27:03):
requirements When it comes to job, money, and faith. I
work two full time jobs, and I take care of
myself and my children. I will continue to have faith
that my equal is on the way. Can you please
give me some advice to strengthen my self confidence and
put boundaries between my ex and I, who I still
love with friendship.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
M what's that last part? She said? Oh? Look, she said,
can you please give me some of adite? This was
strengthened myself confidence and put boundaries. That's the answer. She
got the answer right there. Sh She needs strengthen her.
She just needs to work on her, work on her.

(01:27:42):
You can't work on nobody else. You can't change me
in you can't change the people that come in your life.
The devil gonna send them, and you just got to
change you life. Get life is like from kindergarten to
twelfth grade. People think it's from twelve grade to kindergarten.
The lesson get harder. You go from one plus one
to three a's fifty eggs and then that. But you
get stronger along the way that it feels like kindergarten. Wow,

(01:28:06):
So you got to strengthen you so when that stuff come,
you know how to handle that. You're gonna be different. Okay, Nah,
I ain't gonna lie because but what it is. Sometimes
the broke man got the best d so it's hard
to leave me long because they gonna they focus on that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
Like the lazy woman got the best, the best.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
It's a lazy way. But you come home, she just
laying on that sofa for you. Got you got that
about you? Like if you like that, I'm lazy, you're
gonna hard work. But yeah, I'm lazy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
I have a balance.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
Well you got that, like Joe, come home and see
you be out of here. But like, man, I hate
to be on y'all day.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
But good lord, Okay, I would tell you definitely work
on your so do some self work, do therapy, because
it sounds like you've been through some things you said
you had trauma from past relationships in the past three years.
I would work on yourself before hopping into a relationship.
I do know that it is hard to deal with

(01:29:12):
someone who is still friends with your family and still
be kind of lingering. It's hard to get over somebody
when they're still so close. You know, It's like, dang,
can you just can I have my people? You know
what I'm saying. Can you just go on so that
I can have my life back and not think about
you or constantly have to hear about what's going on
with you. So I know that's hard as well. But
you can't control the fact that your sister's in a

(01:29:35):
relationship with one of his family members. I would just
do my best to just let let your sister know, Hey,
I don't want to hear anything about him. I'm trying
to get over it, even though you love him. But
I think it what Country says is right. You have
to start with yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
That's real, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
So we do something called what I'm going through and
what I'm growing through. Is there anything that you're going
through and growing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Through going through.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
In life?

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Shoot? Not really?

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Just great.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
I might be going through it, but he won't let
me feel it. I don't know that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
So this hard to show we feel in the blank.
It's called keep it blank, sweetie.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Okay cool?

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Oh from this episode, I would say, keep it mm
hmmm creative, sweetie, never like get complacent. Always stay creative
and think of new ideas and things to do.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
That's real.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
Yeah, what would you say?

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
I like that?

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
Like that you can go with us. I'm gonna go
with what you said, all right, Purple were saying, keep
it creative, sweetie.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Thank you, Wayne, Nah, thank you. No.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
I appreciate you. You have such great insight and the
way you break things down is like no one else.
I appreciate your funny. You had us all laughing in here.
I hope you guys enjoy this episode of Keep It Positive, Sweetie.
If you want to be featured on our positive outcomes,
listen to letter write into Keep It Positive Sweetie at
gmail dot com and that's Sweetie with an ie. You

(01:31:12):
can follow Keep It Positive sweety on all platforms, and
you can follow me on all platforms at luv Chris
sa Reine and wait until where they can find you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Oh it's country Wayne with a K k ou n
t R y Wayne.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
That's right, all right, stay tuned, makes you guys. Get
his book. His book is entitled help Us on the Way,
Stay up and Live Your Truth's out. Get it and
remember Jesus is popping and in the meantime, until next time,
keep it positive, Sweetie, Love you guys.

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