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September 22, 2025 19 mins

Have you ever walked away from a conversation thinking, why did that get so heated? Wishing you’d found the right words instead of freezing up or overreacting.

The truth is, the next argument you have doesn’t have to be an argument at all. 

In this episode, I’m joined by trial lawyer and bestselling author Jefferson Fisher, who has spent his career navigating high-stakes conversations where every word matters. Together, we break down simple but powerful strategies you can use to stay calm, confident, and clear—even in the heat of conflict. 

You’ll learn how a single word swap can transform an entire conversation, how to pause before reacting so you don’t get emotionally hijacked, and why confidence isn’t something you summon beforehand but something you earn by how you speak.

If you’ve ever wanted to argue less, influence more, and finally feel heard, this episode will give you the tools to make your next conversation the one that changes everything.


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