Nesrine Changuel helped build Spotify, Google Chrome, and Google Meet. Her work has helped her discover the importance of emotional connection in building successful products. At Google, she served as a dedicated “delight PM,” a role specifically focused on making products more delightful. She recently published Product Delight, a book that provides a practical framework for creating products that serve both functional and emotional needs. Based in Paris, she now coaches founders and CPOs on implementing delight strategies in their organizations.
What you’ll learn:
1. Why delight is a business strategy, not just “sprinkling confetti” on top of functionality
2. How to identify emotional motivators that drive product retention
3. The 50-40-10 rule for balancing delight in your roadmap
4. The 4-step delight model
5. The origin story of Spotify’s Discover Weekly
6. Why B2B products need delight just as much as B2C products
7. How to get buy-in from skeptical leaders who think delight is a luxury
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Transcript: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/a-4-step-framework-for-building-delightful-products
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Where to find Nesrine Changuel:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nesrinechanguel/
• Newsletter: https://nesrinechanguel.substack.com/
• Website: https://nesrine-changuel.com/
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Where to find Lenny:
• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com
• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/
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In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Introduction to Nesrine and product delight
(04:56) Why delight matters
(09:17) What makes a feature “delightful”
(12:29) The three pillars of delight
(13:03) Pillar 1: Removing friction (Uber refund example)
(15:07) Pillar 2: Anticipating needs (Revolut eSIM example)
(17:21) Pillar 3: Exceeding expectations (Edge coupon example)
(18:35) The “confetti effect” and when it actually works
(22:02) B2B vs. B2C: Why all products need emotional connection
(29:52) The Delight Model: A 4-step framework
(30:57) Step 1: Identifying user motivators (functional and emotional)
(33:55) Step 2: Converting motivators into product opportunities
(34:46) Step 3: Identifying solutions with the delight grid
(36:46) Step 4: Validating ideas with the delight checklist
(40:22) The Delight Model summarized
(42:18) The importance of familiarity (Spotify Discover Weekly story)
(45:21) Real examples: Chrome’s tab management solution
(51:32) Google Meet’s solution for “Zoom fatigue”
(55:02) Getting buy-in from skeptical leaders
(59:39) Prioritizing delight: The 50-40-10 rule
(1:02:41) Creating a culture of delight in your organization
(1:06:45) The habituation effect
(1:08:15) When delight goes wrong: Apple reactions example
(1:10:21) How delight motivates product teams
(1:12:24) Lightning round and final thoughts
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Referenced:
• Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/
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