Brendan Foody is the CEO and co-founder of Mercor, the fastest-growing company in history to go from $1M to $500M in revenue (in just 17 months!). At 22, he is also the youngest American unicorn founder ever. Mercor works with 6 of the Magnificent 7 and all top 5 AI labs to help them hire experts to create evaluations and training data that improve their models. In this conversation, Brendan explains why evals have become the critical bottleneck for AI progress, how he discovered this massive opportunity, and what the future of work might look like in an AI-driven economy.
What you’ll learn:
1. Why evals are becoming the primary bottleneck for AI progress and what this means for AI startups
2. How Mercor grew to $500M revenue in 17 months (fastest in history)
3. Brendan’s meeting with xAI that changed his company’s trajectory
4. Which skills and jobs will remain most valuable as AI continues to advance (hint: jobs with “elastic” demand)
5. Why Brendan believes AGI and superintelligence are not happening anytime soon
6. The three unique core values that drove Mercor’s success
7. How Harvard Lampoon writers are making Claude funnier
—
Brought to you by:
WorkOS—Modern identity platform for B2B SaaS, free up to 1 million MAUs
Jira Product Discovery—Atlassian’s new prioritization and roadmapping tool built for product teams
Enterpret—Transform customer feedback into product growth
—
Transcript: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/experts-writing-ai-evals-brendan-foody
—
My biggest takeaways (for paid newsletter subscribers): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/i/173303790/my-biggest-takeaways-from-this-conversation
—
Where to find Brendan Foody:
• X: https://x.com/BrendanFoody
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendan-foody-2995ab10b/
—
Where to find Lenny:
• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com
• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/
—
In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Introduction to Brendan Foody and Mercor
(05:38) The “era of evals”
(09:26) Understanding the AI training landscape
(17:10) The future of work and AI
(25:54) The evolution of labor markets
(29:55) Understanding how AI models are trained
(38:58) Building Mercor
(53:27) Lessons from past ventures
(56:55) The future of AI and model improvement
(01:00:41) His personal use of AI and final thoughts
—
References: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/experts-writing-ai-evals-brendan-foody
—
Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.
Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com