October 17, 2025 • 27 mins
Dante Marchitelli and Jake Chapman are back on Magic Insiders joined by Orlando Magic Assistant Coach God Shammgod! The crew talks about Shammgod's adjustment to Orlando, his first meeting with Magic Head Coach Jamahl Mosley, his role on the staff and more!
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Speaker 3 (00:55):
Dante Marcitelli, Jake Chapman, here with you. We got a
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
We're gonna be joined here and about thirty seconds by
God Sham Good new assistant coach for the Orlando Magic,
and we want to leave all the time possible that
we can because he's got an incredible story and just
an incredible outlook on life on the game of basketball.
And we don't want to sure change you any of
this conversation with God Sham God. We got to remind
you the Magic one last night, their final preseason game.
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second in points per game play with more pace, getting
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Speaker 3 (01:39):
Let's welcome in the newest member of the Orlando Magic
coaching staff, God Sham God, and we want to welcome
in ow to Magic Insiders, new Magic assistant coach God
Sham God kind enough to join us, Dante Marcitellian Jake
Chapman here with his resume.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And his background. This show we could do about two hours,
but we're gonna be conscious of his time. We're gonna
go about ten to fifteen minutes here. But first of all,
welcome to Orlando coach. We're so happy to have you
as a part of this coaching staff. And how has
everything gone so far in your in your switch to Orlando.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Everything's been Everything's been great.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
You know I knew, uh like I mean if people
don't know, I knew Coach Mosley since I was nineteen
years old, So you know, for me, this is more
than just a coaching job. To me, this is like,
you know, coming to work for my brother and for
a great organization.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
You know, Jeff Wellman, you know Ham and everybody.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
You know, I knew to them over years in passing,
and Orlando is an amazing place. You know, the facilities
is great, the people are great. So you know, I'm
just having a singless transition so far.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
What was your introduction to Jamal Mosley at nineteen? How
did you person?
Speaker 7 (02:51):
I was a freshman at Provience and he came on
to visit and I was his host.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So that didn't that visit didn't go well because you
went to Colorado?
Speaker 7 (02:59):
No, No, because what happened was it went well, but
I told him I was leaving to go to the NBA.
So I mean, I don't know if that played the
part in it, but then but then that that same yeah,
I left to go to the NBA.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
He made a business decision.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah yeah, coach, did you did you have any sense
of what Jamal Moseley would become then?
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Could you? Could you kind of see a twinkle in
his eye?
Speaker 6 (03:24):
No?
Speaker 7 (03:24):
I knew, uh nine years ago when I joined Dallas Mavericks,
and then we became reconnected because we.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Worked on the same staff.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Sure, and even then I was telling him, man, you're
gonna be a great head coach. You know, you're gonna
be a great head coach, you know, soon in the league.
And like I said, me and Jeff had a prior
relationship because at that point he was he was coming
to Providence a lot to see Chris Dunne. That's when
Chris Dunnan was then more point ground the country, and
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I coached him in college, and so me and him
had a good relationship. And even when I spoke to him, like,
you know, to Jamal getting the job, I was I
was like, man, you know, Jamal be great for y'all.
You know, so you know, as Tom would tell, you know,
it's eight years later, and you know, he's doing an
amazing job with the players and the organization, and you know,
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he's just a great coach with more point, he's just
a great person, great human being.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You don't have to tell it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
We are huge Jamal Mosley fans, and we are We're
always got his back and he's doing a terrific job
speaking with God shame God new Magic assistant coach and
all right, well, let us know Magic fans especially, who
are you working with and what what does your your
daily routine consist of, and and you know kind of
some of the things that that you're helping this current
Magic team with.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Uh Jim, you know, I'm helping him a little bit
of everything, you know, Coach Mo's and like the way
he run his staff.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
You know, every everybody here is like helping together. You know.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
My main thing is offense and just being able to
help the players, be able to do exactly what the
coach needs when they get on the court, and help
them just keep building who they are most important, just
unlocking who they are.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Right So for me, it's always.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Been I think, you know, people have foundation new skills
from the beginning, and then certain people come in their
life to help unlock it, you know, And I've always
felt I've always been an unlocker. You know, I would
never say I made any player, because you can't take
some out of the player.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
That's not in them, right, you know.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
So you know, I've been blessed and fortunate, you know,
just like people say they blessed and fortunately work with me.
I've been blessed and fortunate to work with great players,
you know. And then when I come to Orlando, you know,
it's more great players, you know, like Polo, you know France,
you know, Ab Desmond, Bang Jail and Sugs. You know,
it's just it's just a great canvas of players here.
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You know, when Dell, when Dell carded that new since
he was since he was eighteen years old, I coached
him before, you know, And it's just it's just an
honor and the pleasure just to come and help add
to whatever to the great stuff that's.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Going on already here.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
And you know, hopefully, you know, we can make this
thing magical this year, no point intended.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, well I love that. We'll take it magical. That
is that is fascinating, the unlocker.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Does that come with just working with a guy, getting
to know a guy film before you meet him? How
do you realize what he can do and then help
him unlock it as a team. I know it's everybody,
but yeah, you said.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Yeah, just like you know, you watch film, you get
to know players, you get to see their skills set,
you get to know what's really in their heart and
what they want to become, right, because.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
It's too it's too close to this is what.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
You want to become, and it's what what's needed for
the team, right, Right, So sometimes those could be two
different things, right, So my job is to help help
them see progress in themselves but.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
In the way of the team. Right. So it's like,
for instance, it's like if.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
Someone if someone's on a team that's not really like
a guard to dribble and stuff like that, but they
get it in certain positions, whether it's uh downlow on
the block or small forward a wing, and so it's
my job to help them understand, like to make them
the best three dribbler person in the world. It, Right,
So if you if you shoot jump hooks, if you
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shoot mid range, it's like, okay, let's try to get
you to be the best at that, right, because then
what that does it helps you feel better about yourself.
But then it also helps the team and what we
need from the team from you for the team, right,
because we all, we all have different roles. It's just
like in life. We all play different roles.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
You know.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
When I'm with my kids, I'm a father. When I'm
with my parents, I'm a son, you know, So we
all we all got to know how to play different roles,
but in the betterment of the family.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Because I consider everybody I've ever worked with.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Every team I've ever been with, I consider them family,
you know, Like Luca is not just a person I trained.
You know, we speak, we speak still now because.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
He's family, right, you know, Kyrie is family.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
So I'm not just here to just focus on just
your skill set. Because could I could teach ten people
how to dribble, right, and eight of them, two of
them will dribbled better than the eight, and one of
them will dribble better than the nine because his imagination
and his thing everything is totally different. Right, So it's
not about just teaching people one thing. It's about helping
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them mentally and physically and understanding like where we headed
as not just them as a player, but as an organization,
you know, because we all have jobs, like just like,
y'all have jobs, the fans have jobs, the players have jobs.
So my thing is that hopefully make sure you give
it your all every day because even if you even
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in some not wins, you still win because the fans
and everybody appreciate like everything you're doing.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
And that's that's just been my biggest thing, my.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Whole life, my whole career, is just to help people
understand like it's bigger than just you. You know, it's
a team. This is not tennis, this is not certain
sports with box it's just you. This is this is
the whole team. And if the point guard don't do
his job, then I mean the two guard got to.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Do what the point guard is doing.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
So I mean the two guard is not doing what
he's doing, so I mean the three got to do
with the two. So it's just about helping them understand
that every piece of the puzzle effects even the fifteenth.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Man on the bench.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
In practice, you helping the starters shopping their skills, so
everybody is everybody is a part of this thing.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Love that.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
How do you apply that to a player like Anthony
Black who is so young, he's like a ball play
still so talented. Certainly you know, Rangey as the body
could do a whole lot of different things. But I'm
sure he's got sort of two parallel tracks right now,
he's got his personal goals and then playing within the
framework of the team.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
What's your what's your experience been like with a B.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
So my think, I think with a B has been
good so far since I've been here, you know, because
because me, I always take the approach of every player.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
It's different, but they can still be a team. Right.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
So it's just like when you have kids, right, you
always have the kid one kid that's just like mischiefs,
and then one kid that do everything right right, But
the one kid that do everything right, he still need
attention and needs the love too.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Right.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
So then when then when you when you set rules
and you say, hey, everybody got to be in the
house at nine, that that means even a good kid
right now, the good kid might the good kid might
be able to watch TV. The good kid might be
able to watch TV, and other kid don't. But the
rules are the rules, right, But everybody, everybody are their
own unique person.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
You've been in my house, You've been in my house
this week.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
This is good stuff. This is good stuff.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
I'm taking notes, keep going, but like but like your point,
like to a B of course, like he has you know,
greatness written all over him you, right, so it's just
about unlocking him and showing him ways. Like, Okay, the key,
the main thing is the main thing, right, So the
main thing is for you to play defense, run the team.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Get people involved.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Okay, So everything else is a bonus, right, So you
pick your spots to where you're scoring, where you're being dynamic,
you are, you're doing stuff like that, and if you
unlock that and be that, which since I've been here,
he's been like that in preseason, he's been doing it.
He's been showing he's more confidence, he's shooting three well,
he's getting downhill. And when you can do that, then
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of course it's just like in a family, things could change.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
And things could grow. Right.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
So now when people see that from you, your teammates
see that.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Now, people just expect that from you. Right.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
So then then when people expect that from you, it's
such a good feeling because you know how hard you
work and then you know, like, man, I got more
to offer, or I could do this, but it's like
you still want to do it.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
In the framework of the team.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
You know, like perfect example, if you watch Okay, see
they play the same way.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
No matter what.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
You know, when they bring somebody off the bench, he
might have played eight games. When he get in, he's
doing his role. And then when everybody wins, everybody's happy, right,
everybody's happy.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
So and then most of it is making sure guys
work together. Right.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
So like when I was in Dallas, I used to
always when Kyrie or Luca wanted to work out, I say, hey,
you know, we could work out, but you got to
work out together because the main common denominated is basketball, right,
So whatever your difference is, basketball is always gonna be
the same.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
Right. So what happens is even when you.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
If you do something so much with somebody, then you
just forget all the differences and you only focus on
the stuff that you're like, Man, I like this guy,
you know, I like this person. Oh man, we want
to take a ride today. Let's take a ride today.
Because now so so now when you watch the games
and you see like all the guys moving the ball,
it's because it's unconsciously now because you work together so
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much and working on passing in to each other for
jump shots. So then what happens is even like in practice,
you pass to a guy so much, even when he missed,
the first thing you said, oh, man, don't worry about
it keeps you in a good shot.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Ye.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
Right, So now in the game is unconsciously you're like,
I don't seen this person do this, so let me
pass on the ball. Even when he missed, you're like, hey, man,
don't worry about a good shot, instead of like, man,
why passing ball? He ain't make a shot of This
is all positivity, right, and it ain't all gonna be
great days, but you could always be positive every day,
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absolutely because at the end of the day, this is
a blessing for all of us. This is a blessing
for me to coach. This is a blessing for me
to be able to share my acknowledge. Like if everybody
know my story, like played in the NBA two years,
I played twenty games. So for me to have done
the stuff I have done over these years, you know,
only only could be a humble soul. So I always
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try to leave by being selfless at anytime and just
you know, be confidence because we could all sit and
harp on why is not going good? Right, well, why
the game is not going good? But it's like, yeah,
we'll hop on that because that's why it's the first quarter,
second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter, right, So why would
you hop on something from the first quarter in.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
The third quarter? All right, So we got to turn
the page and just keep moving forward.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I love all this and I understand why you're here.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I mean, this is this all fits in perfectly.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
And by the way, it's no mistake. We're second in
offensive rating in the preseason here. By the way, speaking
with God Sham God, and you mentioned it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Your story the Word of God.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You've got a book that you have by God Sham God,
and I just ordered it a couple of days ago.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
I can't wait to read that.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, now I want to I want to know more
about your story, but you don't get rape for Austin here,
and I was fascinated by skipping my lose stories.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Absolutely. I know your stories.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Your upbringing in Harlem and born in Brooklyn, Rucker Park,
Providence College. You have to be all experience that have
shaped you and helped you become the guy that you
are now.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I would imagine right.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
Yes, it just it just connected me to be how
you said, I've been blessed in my life to have
great people in my life and great friends, and the
the big thing about it is to the world they
have great people too. So it's so it's like, you know,
like I grew up with jay Z, I grew up
with me. I grew up with Cam. I grew up
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you know, like jay Z is one of you know,
one of my close friends. Uh uh, Mark Cuban is
one of my close friends.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I didn't grow up with anybody like that. Jim, I
didn't grow up with the impressible.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Was the first coach that really coached me, you know
like that, So that.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Wait real quick that who was your science coach or
your science teacher?
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Was it?
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Bill nine?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Like, I don't understand how he was coaching you.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
It ain't great for trying out, I tell you.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
I tell people it's the funniest story. Right.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
So when I first when I first met t, I
was doing like all these tricks and he was like, man,
and I had to be like thirteen or twelve, and
he was like, he was like, man, if you just focused,
you could be really good and mindre you know, I'm young.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
I don't know no better. I'm like, man, who the
hell does this old man? I think he is telling
me how to play right right.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
So then I go home and I'm watching, you know,
for people, for young people that's listening.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
You know. It was such thing as VHS. You know,
I set tapes. I had a VH.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Test, a VH tape and it was like Jason Kidd,
Tim Hardaway, all.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
The great guards that the kids know now.
Speaker 7 (16:44):
But then in the middle of the segment it had Pistol,
p Earl, Monroe, Tiny Archible, all these people. And I
looked at the tape because I used to study it
a lot. So I looked at the tape and it
was like Tiny Archiball and I'm like, man, he looked
like my gym teacher. No way, So so is in
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a book and Tiny he commented on it.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
So he Uh.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
So I go to school. I'm like any other little kid.
I'm just looking. I'm just watching him. I'm not saying
I just say nothing for like a week. So then
I walk up to him and I was like, Hey,
do you got a son named Tiny Archiball?
Speaker 6 (17:22):
And he was like what?
Speaker 7 (17:23):
And I was like because in my school his name
was Nate Nate Archibald. He's our gym teacher, so I
don't know his nickname. So he's I'm like, do you
got a son named Tiny Archiball? And I was like,
because I was watching this tape, it's this skinny guy.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
He looked just like it. But I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not taking an account that he's old. I'm not
kidding that he's older.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
But the reason why mostly, like I tell everybody when
they say, man, how did you not know? I said,
because just like, but the world that's listening now, and
I want you to listen carefully.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Everybody in the NBA is not rich, Okay.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
So that's why I didn't think it was him, because
I'm like, it's no way God from the NBA is
being my gym teacher, right, you know. And you know,
back then, they was probably making like two hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Right, and not just the guy.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
What are the fifty greatest players of all time?
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
So I'm sitting there like, there's no way this guy
works at my school. And he was, you know, because
most people when they see NBA people, they think auto mad.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, of course, you.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Know, whether whether it's NBA people or whether it's y'all.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
You know, when y'all y'all supposed to bring the big
gifts for Christmas, like y'all you know exactly right, Nobody
don't know what to get you because you have everything.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I have everything.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, isn't that funny?
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Yeah? So that's how it was. And I said, why
you didn't tell me you played the NBA. He was like,
all you young kids just think you know everything.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Isn't that well, you know, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I heard you on NBA radio and I thought it
was fascinating, you know that back then because he said
if you focus and you could, you could have a
great career.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Now, everything that you do now has been highly sought
after last decade, right, for the last decade plus.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You're ahead of your time anyway. But is it a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Ironic now that you're now that you're seeing everybody want
that move in the way.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
So it's so like you said, it's just it's just
becomes so ironic and it comes like it becomes I
guess like I look at it as part of my path, right,
So so of course I wanted to be a Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
I wanted to be this.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
I wanted to be that, but like me, me and
tany Osk, Well, he's telling me that and then me
becoming what became of it, right, because when I met him.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I didn't really know how dribble.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
I just did fancy stuff, right, So I took his
word and I focused on dribbling, and then I became like, oh,
he's one of the greatest dribblers ever or whatever. Then
in high school that led me to train Kobe Bryant
right when he first came and teaching him how to
dribble and teaching him play a development before player development
is the thing. Man, I'm not even an adult. I'm seventeen,
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he's sixteen. I'm just saying, hey, this is what I
do to work out. You could come. His father was like,
my son really don't know how to dribble, you know
how to do everything else. Can he work out with
you in the morning. I'm like sure, Right, So from
right there, like you said, most of all, by just
being a good person and not being big headed and
all that other stuff, I'm like sure he could work out.
Turns into a thirty year relationship right to the fact
(20:25):
that until his time to me, demise like I was
working his daughter out because.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
I worked him out. He flew me to, hey, you
come work my daughter out stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
So so then when he retired, because I've never talked
about it before, then like, well, when he retired, they
was asking about his journey and he was like, yeah,
you know, I want young kids to know you could
get better. And he was like, I remember when I
first came over here, I really couldn't dribble, and I.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Asked God, shame God, to show me how to dribble.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
So then that's how it became a joant because everybody
heard that.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Then everybody's called me like, hey, can you do this
stuff with me? Can you do this? And then it
just took on a life of his own.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
So so to your point, like the way my journey
has been gone and my life has been gone, I
can't do nothing but be humble because, like I said,
did Mark Cuban.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Offer me a job in the NBA.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Then when I get in an NBA, everybody start doing
the move. Everybody start doing this. So you know, most
people they have to pass away to see who they inspire.
They family, Oh you know what your kid meant to me?
I'm blessed enough that I get to see my inspiration
every day because I'm on the sideline, and I'm blessed
to be like when I was with Dallas, now with
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Orlando Magic stay giving me another opportunity in the platform
to share my gift with the world and with these players.
So I can't do nothing to be a humble servant
of it all because I know it's not me.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
I'm just a shell of me. It's just what God
put in me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Whoever your God is, whatever, it's just a higher purpose
that put in me. And I was on this path
my whole time without even knowing it. You know, he
was just putting me in spots and putting me around
certain people that can guide me to that way. And
right now, Yeah, but I'd love to be whole famous.
But I know one thing. We all in our jobs,
whether it's y'all doing this or anything else, you all
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want you all want to make our job better than
how we found it. And I know one thing, when
it's time for me to go, I've made basketball better.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Yes, So what happens.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
At a certain age in kids life when I'm gone
and when my kids is gone, somebody's gonna say, hey, we.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Gotta teach you the sham gout moves. That's right.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
So my name will still be here. So I can't
do nothing to be humble and be honest. And it's
just honored to be with a great organization like Orlando Magic.
Just watching them from afar, how good the people are.
And you know, even with y'all like just bringing me
on this pot or bring me on the show, just
you know, showing me love and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
That's more than I can ever ask for.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Well, you got two big fans right here, sham and
you gotta make a gun here in central Florida. And
if you could teach the two of us to sham guns.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
You made it.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And by the way, I p e coach telling me
how to climb that damn rope in gym class, have
tiny archibald that's right.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Hey, Hey to do part two, Part I got.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
I got a whole bunch of more for you.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
The Word of God, by God, I mean he played
with Ron Artel.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I mean I can't do a whole show on I
can do.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
An hour on Cameron and Mace with this.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Yeah, But like I tell people, I tell people like
I tell people, I probably I probably played in the.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Greatest McDonald's American Game ever.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Right, So it's me Stephan, Marlburry, Kevin Gone That, Vince Carter,
Paul pi, Antoine Jamison, Tyronel, Wayne Turner, just like all
these great players that made it to the NBA. That's
that's having an impact right now on the world. Ron Mursa,
you know, so list go on.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, sham, I mean you got the ninety seven Arizona
team that won the National Change.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah, yeah, you had him on the ropes.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
I know.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Well, I mean that that that that run for you.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Obviously it helped you on the map McDonald's All America Game,
But yeah, I mean that.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Not many people have a story like that.
Speaker 7 (24:05):
No, No, like you said that, that run was the
run that made me realize that I could even have
an impact on life. And it was the time that
the move came to everybody seeing it and it just
changed of course, it changed the course of dribbling and
it changed the course of my life.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
What Jake Jet's first thing you said when it got on,
He goes, well, we talk about slamming Bibbie into Sie
Miles side into each other.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Hey, well, thank you.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
So I just wanted to say, like, there's a whole
generation of people God that you know, like I was thirteen.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
In nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yeah, you know east By magazine and getting the Marcus
can Be you Matt.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Shorts and oh yeah, that was our universe back then.
So that's why I said, that a real treat for us. Man,
we appreciate it for sure.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
You know how many non basketball people I meet that
talked about that. So that's why I said, I know
it's a higher purpose because there's people that even don't
that's not even in the basketball now, that see at
certain jobs and they'd be like, man, you did the move.
And these are lawyers like like, oh man, that's that's
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good stuff. Love it, that's awesome. Well listen, there's different
halls of fans. There's a Hall of fame. Person shame God,
sham God kind enough to join us.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Thank you so much. Let's have a great season.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Let's go and again we want to thank God, sham
God for that time. Jake, you aren't kidding. I mean
that that that interview could go two hours. I think
about the grind of an NBA season, how difficult it
can be, get to Milwaukee three in the morning, got
a game that night. Having that guy in his positivity,
in his relationship ability with with our team, and not
to mention how talented he is, I can absolutely see
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why Jamal Mosley went and got his friend to be
a part of the staff.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, and then that's before you get into the skills
development that Bryant and Kobe in the nineties.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Uh Mark Cuban, I mean Luca Kyrie, Luca Kyrie.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I really liked what you said at the end about
being a Hall of Fame human, because you know, a
lot of times if your NBA career doesn't necessarily work
out the way you thought and you end up in
China and doing the overseas.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Thing, it it embitters you.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
And he's got such a fresh perspective, he's got such
a such good ideas about teamwork and about what rowing
in the same direction all that stuff actually looks like.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
And then on top of that, he has the cachet
to say, oh, yeah, they named a move after me.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yes, I'm not just like a really good player, I'm
a legend.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
In the streets of New York City at Rutgerd Park.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
So uh yeah, I uh boy, that was that was
that was pretty special.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Thirteen. That was one of those that thirteen year old
Jake was, Oh.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
You would have had to pinch me to let me
know I was gonna interview God Sham God.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Someday you're talking to a lot I mean you're talking
to a lot of you remember the shorts.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I mean everything, ay, thing that went with that.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I mean you're talking to checking off the lists all
the legends that we've been able to talk to here
through throughout our NBA career. But that was fantastic and
you can see why he's gonna have a immediate impact
on this Magic team, There's no question about it. And
where Yeah, we're thrilled to have them, and I think
we could certainly do a ton more content with God
Sham God. We want to remind everybody all season long,
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Speaker 3 (00:55):
Dante Marcitelli, Jake Chapman, here with you. We got a
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Speaker 2 (00:58):
We're gonna be joined here and about thirty seconds by
God Sham Good new assistant coach for the Orlando Magic,
and we want to leave all the time possible that
we can because he's got an incredible story and just
an incredible outlook on life on the game of basketball.
And we don't want to sure change you any of
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Speaker 3 (01:39):
Let's welcome in the newest member of the Orlando Magic
coaching staff, God Sham God, and we want to welcome
in ow to Magic Insiders, new Magic assistant coach God
Sham God kind enough to join us, Dante Marcitellian Jake
Chapman here with his resume.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And his background. This show we could do about two hours,
but we're gonna be conscious of his time. We're gonna
go about ten to fifteen minutes here. But first of all,
welcome to Orlando coach. We're so happy to have you
as a part of this coaching staff. And how has
everything gone so far in your in your switch to Orlando.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Everything's been Everything's been great.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
You know I knew, uh like I mean if people
don't know, I knew Coach Mosley since I was nineteen
years old, So you know, for me, this is more
than just a coaching job. To me, this is like,
you know, coming to work for my brother and for
a great organization.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
You know, Jeff Wellman, you know Ham and everybody.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
You know, I knew to them over years in passing,
and Orlando is an amazing place. You know, the facilities
is great, the people are great. So you know, I'm
just having a singless transition so far.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
What was your introduction to Jamal Mosley at nineteen? How
did you person?
Speaker 7 (02:51):
I was a freshman at Provience and he came on
to visit and I was his host.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So that didn't that visit didn't go well because you
went to Colorado?
Speaker 7 (02:59):
No, No, because what happened was it went well, but
I told him I was leaving to go to the NBA.
So I mean, I don't know if that played the
part in it, but then but then that that same yeah,
I left to go to the NBA.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
He made a business decision.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah yeah, coach, did you did you have any sense
of what Jamal Moseley would become then?
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Could you? Could you kind of see a twinkle in
his eye?
Speaker 6 (03:24):
No?
Speaker 7 (03:24):
I knew, uh nine years ago when I joined Dallas Mavericks,
and then we became reconnected because we.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
Worked on the same staff.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Sure, and even then I was telling him, man, you're
gonna be a great head coach. You know, you're gonna
be a great head coach, you know, soon in the league.
And like I said, me and Jeff had a prior
relationship because at that point he was he was coming
to Providence a lot to see Chris Dunne. That's when
Chris Dunnan was then more point ground the country, and
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I coached him in college, and so me and him
had a good relationship. And even when I spoke to him, like,
you know, to Jamal getting the job, I was I
was like, man, you know, Jamal be great for y'all.
You know, so you know, as Tom would tell, you know,
it's eight years later, and you know, he's doing an
amazing job with the players and the organization, and you know,
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he's just a great coach with more point, he's just
a great person, great human being.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You don't have to tell it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
We are huge Jamal Mosley fans, and we are We're
always got his back and he's doing a terrific job
speaking with God shame God new Magic assistant coach and
all right, well, let us know Magic fans especially, who
are you working with and what what does your your
daily routine consist of, and and you know kind of
some of the things that that you're helping this current
Magic team with.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Uh Jim, you know, I'm helping him a little bit
of everything, you know, Coach Mo's and like the way
he run his staff.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
You know, every everybody here is like helping together. You know.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
My main thing is offense and just being able to
help the players, be able to do exactly what the
coach needs when they get on the court, and help
them just keep building who they are most important, just
unlocking who they are.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Right So for me, it's always.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Been I think, you know, people have foundation new skills
from the beginning, and then certain people come in their
life to help unlock it, you know, And I've always
felt I've always been an unlocker. You know, I would
never say I made any player, because you can't take
some out of the player.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
That's not in them, right, you know.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
So you know, I've been blessed and fortunate, you know,
just like people say they blessed and fortunately work with me.
I've been blessed and fortunate to work with great players,
you know. And then when I come to Orlando, you know,
it's more great players, you know, like Polo, you know France,
you know, Ab Desmond, Bang Jail and Sugs. You know,
it's just it's just a great canvas of players here.
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You know, when Dell, when Dell carded that new since
he was since he was eighteen years old, I coached
him before, you know, And it's just it's just an
honor and the pleasure just to come and help add
to whatever to the great stuff that's.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Going on already here.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
And you know, hopefully, you know, we can make this
thing magical this year, no point intended.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, well I love that. We'll take it magical. That
is that is fascinating, the unlocker.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Does that come with just working with a guy, getting
to know a guy film before you meet him? How
do you realize what he can do and then help
him unlock it as a team. I know it's everybody,
but yeah, you said.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Yeah, just like you know, you watch film, you get
to know players, you get to see their skills set,
you get to know what's really in their heart and
what they want to become, right, because.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
It's too it's too close to this is what.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
You want to become, and it's what what's needed for
the team, right, Right, So sometimes those could be two
different things, right, So my job is to help help
them see progress in themselves but.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
In the way of the team. Right. So it's like,
for instance, it's like if.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
Someone if someone's on a team that's not really like
a guard to dribble and stuff like that, but they
get it in certain positions, whether it's uh downlow on
the block or small forward a wing, and so it's
my job to help them understand, like to make them
the best three dribbler person in the world. It, Right,
So if you if you shoot jump hooks, if you
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shoot mid range, it's like, okay, let's try to get
you to be the best at that, right, because then
what that does it helps you feel better about yourself.
But then it also helps the team and what we
need from the team from you for the team, right,
because we all, we all have different roles. It's just
like in life. We all play different roles.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
You know.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
When I'm with my kids, I'm a father. When I'm
with my parents, I'm a son, you know, So we
all we all got to know how to play different roles,
but in the betterment of the family.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Because I consider everybody I've ever worked with.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Every team I've ever been with, I consider them family,
you know, Like Luca is not just a person I trained.
You know, we speak, we speak still now because.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
He's family, right, you know, Kyrie is family.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
So I'm not just here to just focus on just
your skill set. Because could I could teach ten people
how to dribble, right, and eight of them, two of
them will dribbled better than the eight, and one of
them will dribble better than the nine because his imagination
and his thing everything is totally different. Right, So it's
not about just teaching people one thing. It's about helping
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them mentally and physically and understanding like where we headed
as not just them as a player, but as an organization,
you know, because we all have jobs, like just like,
y'all have jobs, the fans have jobs, the players have jobs.
So my thing is that hopefully make sure you give
it your all every day because even if you even
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in some not wins, you still win because the fans
and everybody appreciate like everything you're doing.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
And that's that's just been my biggest thing, my.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
Whole life, my whole career, is just to help people
understand like it's bigger than just you. You know, it's
a team. This is not tennis, this is not certain
sports with box it's just you. This is this is
the whole team. And if the point guard don't do
his job, then I mean the two guard got to.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Do what the point guard is doing.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
So I mean the two guard is not doing what
he's doing, so I mean the three got to do
with the two. So it's just about helping them understand
that every piece of the puzzle effects even the fifteenth.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Man on the bench.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
In practice, you helping the starters shopping their skills, so
everybody is everybody is a part of this thing.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Love that.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
How do you apply that to a player like Anthony
Black who is so young, he's like a ball play
still so talented. Certainly you know, Rangey as the body
could do a whole lot of different things. But I'm
sure he's got sort of two parallel tracks right now,
he's got his personal goals and then playing within the
framework of the team.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
What's your what's your experience been like with a B.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
So my think, I think with a B has been
good so far since I've been here, you know, because
because me, I always take the approach of every player.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
It's different, but they can still be a team. Right.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
So it's just like when you have kids, right, you
always have the kid one kid that's just like mischiefs,
and then one kid that do everything right right, But
the one kid that do everything right, he still need
attention and needs the love too.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Right.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
So then when then when you when you set rules
and you say, hey, everybody got to be in the
house at nine, that that means even a good kid
right now, the good kid might the good kid might
be able to watch TV. The good kid might be
able to watch TV, and other kid don't. But the
rules are the rules, right, But everybody, everybody are their
own unique person.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
You've been in my house, You've been in my house
this week.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
This is good stuff. This is good stuff.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
I'm taking notes, keep going, but like but like your point,
like to a B of course, like he has you know,
greatness written all over him you, right, so it's just
about unlocking him and showing him ways. Like, Okay, the key,
the main thing is the main thing, right, So the
main thing is for you to play defense, run the team.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Get people involved.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Okay, So everything else is a bonus, right, So you
pick your spots to where you're scoring, where you're being dynamic,
you are, you're doing stuff like that, and if you
unlock that and be that, which since I've been here,
he's been like that in preseason, he's been doing it.
He's been showing he's more confidence, he's shooting three well,
he's getting downhill. And when you can do that, then
(11:31):
of course it's just like in a family, things could change.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
And things could grow. Right.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
So now when people see that from you, your teammates
see that.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Now, people just expect that from you. Right.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
So then then when people expect that from you, it's
such a good feeling because you know how hard you
work and then you know, like, man, I got more
to offer, or I could do this, but it's like
you still want to do it.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
In the framework of the team.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
You know, like perfect example, if you watch Okay, see
they play the same way.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
No matter what.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
You know, when they bring somebody off the bench, he
might have played eight games. When he get in, he's
doing his role. And then when everybody wins, everybody's happy, right,
everybody's happy.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
So and then most of it is making sure guys
work together. Right.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
So like when I was in Dallas, I used to
always when Kyrie or Luca wanted to work out, I say, hey,
you know, we could work out, but you got to
work out together because the main common denominated is basketball, right,
So whatever your difference is, basketball is always gonna be
the same.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
Right. So what happens is even when you.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
If you do something so much with somebody, then you
just forget all the differences and you only focus on
the stuff that you're like, Man, I like this guy,
you know, I like this person. Oh man, we want
to take a ride today. Let's take a ride today.
Because now so so now when you watch the games
and you see like all the guys moving the ball,
it's because it's unconsciously now because you work together so
(12:57):
much and working on passing in to each other for
jump shots. So then what happens is even like in practice,
you pass to a guy so much, even when he missed,
the first thing you said, oh, man, don't worry about
it keeps you in a good shot.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
Ye.
Speaker 7 (13:09):
Right, So now in the game is unconsciously you're like,
I don't seen this person do this, so let me
pass on the ball. Even when he missed, you're like, hey, man,
don't worry about a good shot, instead of like, man,
why passing ball? He ain't make a shot of This
is all positivity, right, and it ain't all gonna be
great days, but you could always be positive every day,
(13:31):
absolutely because at the end of the day, this is
a blessing for all of us. This is a blessing
for me to coach. This is a blessing for me
to be able to share my acknowledge. Like if everybody
know my story, like played in the NBA two years,
I played twenty games. So for me to have done
the stuff I have done over these years, you know,
only only could be a humble soul. So I always
(13:52):
try to leave by being selfless at anytime and just
you know, be confidence because we could all sit and
harp on why is not going good? Right, well, why
the game is not going good? But it's like, yeah,
we'll hop on that because that's why it's the first quarter,
second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter, right, So why would
you hop on something from the first quarter in.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
The third quarter? All right, So we got to turn
the page and just keep moving forward.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I love all this and I understand why you're here.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I mean, this is this all fits in perfectly.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
And by the way, it's no mistake. We're second in
offensive rating in the preseason here. By the way, speaking
with God Sham God, and you mentioned it a little bit.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Your story the Word of God.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
You've got a book that you have by God Sham God,
and I just ordered it a couple of days ago.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
I can't wait to read that.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, now I want to I want to know more
about your story, but you don't get rape for Austin here,
and I was fascinated by skipping my lose stories.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Absolutely. I know your stories.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Your upbringing in Harlem and born in Brooklyn, Rucker Park,
Providence College. You have to be all experience that have
shaped you and helped you become the guy that you
are now.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I would imagine right.
Speaker 7 (15:05):
Yes, it just it just connected me to be how
you said, I've been blessed in my life to have
great people in my life and great friends, and the
the big thing about it is to the world they
have great people too. So it's so it's like, you know,
like I grew up with jay Z, I grew up
with me. I grew up with Cam. I grew up
(15:27):
you know, like jay Z is one of you know,
one of my close friends. Uh uh, Mark Cuban is
one of my close friends.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
I didn't grow up with anybody like that. Jim, I
didn't grow up with the impressible.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Was the first coach that really coached me, you know
like that, So that.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Wait real quick that who was your science coach or
your science teacher?
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Was it?
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Bill nine?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Like, I don't understand how he was coaching you.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
It ain't great for trying out, I tell you.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
I tell people it's the funniest story. Right.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
So when I first when I first met t, I
was doing like all these tricks and he was like, man,
and I had to be like thirteen or twelve, and
he was like, he was like, man, if you just focused,
you could be really good and mindre you know, I'm young.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
I don't know no better. I'm like, man, who the
hell does this old man? I think he is telling
me how to play right right.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
So then I go home and I'm watching, you know,
for people, for young people that's listening.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
You know. It was such thing as VHS. You know,
I set tapes. I had a VH.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Test, a VH tape and it was like Jason Kidd,
Tim Hardaway, all.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
The great guards that the kids know now.
Speaker 7 (16:44):
But then in the middle of the segment it had Pistol,
p Earl, Monroe, Tiny Archible, all these people. And I
looked at the tape because I used to study it
a lot. So I looked at the tape and it
was like Tiny Archiball and I'm like, man, he looked
like my gym teacher. No way, So so is in
(17:05):
a book and Tiny he commented on it.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
So he Uh.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
So I go to school. I'm like any other little kid.
I'm just looking. I'm just watching him. I'm not saying
I just say nothing for like a week. So then
I walk up to him and I was like, Hey,
do you got a son named Tiny Archiball?
Speaker 6 (17:22):
And he was like what?
Speaker 7 (17:23):
And I was like because in my school his name
was Nate Nate Archibald. He's our gym teacher, so I
don't know his nickname. So he's I'm like, do you
got a son named Tiny Archiball? And I was like,
because I was watching this tape, it's this skinny guy.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
He looked just like it. But I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not taking an account that he's old. I'm not
kidding that he's older.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
But the reason why mostly, like I tell everybody when
they say, man, how did you not know? I said,
because just like, but the world that's listening now, and
I want you to listen carefully.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Everybody in the NBA is not rich, Okay.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
So that's why I didn't think it was him, because
I'm like, it's no way God from the NBA is
being my gym teacher, right, you know. And you know,
back then, they was probably making like two hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Right, and not just the guy.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
What are the fifty greatest players of all time?
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
So I'm sitting there like, there's no way this guy
works at my school. And he was, you know, because
most people when they see NBA people, they think auto mad.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, of course, you.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Know, whether whether it's NBA people or whether it's y'all.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
You know, when y'all y'all supposed to bring the big
gifts for Christmas, like y'all you know exactly right, Nobody
don't know what to get you because you have everything.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I have everything.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, isn't that funny?
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Yeah? So that's how it was. And I said, why
you didn't tell me you played the NBA. He was like,
all you young kids just think you know everything.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Isn't that well, you know, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I heard you on NBA radio and I thought it
was fascinating, you know that back then because he said
if you focus and you could, you could have a
great career.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Now, everything that you do now has been highly sought
after last decade, right, for the last decade plus.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You're ahead of your time anyway. But is it a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Ironic now that you're now that you're seeing everybody want
that move in the way.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
So it's so like you said, it's just it's just
becomes so ironic and it comes like it becomes I
guess like I look at it as part of my path, right,
So so of course I wanted to be a Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
I wanted to be this.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
I wanted to be that, but like me, me and
tany Osk, Well, he's telling me that and then me
becoming what became of it, right, because when I met him.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
I didn't really know how dribble.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
I just did fancy stuff, right, So I took his
word and I focused on dribbling, and then I became like, oh,
he's one of the greatest dribblers ever or whatever. Then
in high school that led me to train Kobe Bryant
right when he first came and teaching him how to
dribble and teaching him play a development before player development
is the thing. Man, I'm not even an adult. I'm seventeen,
(20:02):
he's sixteen. I'm just saying, hey, this is what I
do to work out. You could come. His father was like,
my son really don't know how to dribble, you know
how to do everything else. Can he work out with
you in the morning. I'm like sure, Right, So from
right there, like you said, most of all, by just
being a good person and not being big headed and
all that other stuff, I'm like sure he could work out.
Turns into a thirty year relationship right to the fact
(20:25):
that until his time to me, demise like I was
working his daughter out because.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
I worked him out. He flew me to, hey, you
come work my daughter out stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
So so then when he retired, because I've never talked
about it before, then like, well, when he retired, they
was asking about his journey and he was like, yeah,
you know, I want young kids to know you could
get better. And he was like, I remember when I
first came over here, I really couldn't dribble, and I.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Asked God, shame God, to show me how to dribble.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
So then that's how it became a joant because everybody
heard that.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Then everybody's called me like, hey, can you do this
stuff with me? Can you do this? And then it
just took on a life of his own.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
So so to your point, like the way my journey
has been gone and my life has been gone, I
can't do nothing but be humble because, like I said,
did Mark Cuban.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Offer me a job in the NBA.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Then when I get in an NBA, everybody start doing
the move. Everybody start doing this. So you know, most
people they have to pass away to see who they inspire.
They family, Oh you know what your kid meant to me?
I'm blessed enough that I get to see my inspiration
every day because I'm on the sideline, and I'm blessed
to be like when I was with Dallas, now with
(21:33):
Orlando Magic stay giving me another opportunity in the platform
to share my gift with the world and with these players.
So I can't do nothing to be a humble servant
of it all because I know it's not me.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
I'm just a shell of me. It's just what God
put in me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Whoever your God is, whatever, it's just a higher purpose
that put in me. And I was on this path
my whole time without even knowing it. You know, he
was just putting me in spots and putting me around
certain people that can guide me to that way. And
right now, Yeah, but I'd love to be whole famous.
But I know one thing. We all in our jobs,
whether it's y'all doing this or anything else, you all
(22:12):
want you all want to make our job better than
how we found it. And I know one thing, when
it's time for me to go, I've made basketball better.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Yes, So what happens.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
At a certain age in kids life when I'm gone
and when my kids is gone, somebody's gonna say, hey, we.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Gotta teach you the sham gout moves. That's right.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
So my name will still be here. So I can't
do nothing to be humble and be honest. And it's
just honored to be with a great organization like Orlando Magic.
Just watching them from afar, how good the people are.
And you know, even with y'all like just bringing me
on this pot or bring me on the show, just
you know, showing me love and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
That's more than I can ever ask for.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Well, you got two big fans right here, sham and
you gotta make a gun here in central Florida. And
if you could teach the two of us to sham guns.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
You made it.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And by the way, I p e coach telling me
how to climb that damn rope in gym class, have
tiny archibald that's right.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Hey, Hey to do part two, Part I got.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
I got a whole bunch of more for you.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
The Word of God, by God, I mean he played
with Ron Artel.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I mean I can't do a whole show on I
can do.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
An hour on Cameron and Mace with this.
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Yeah, But like I tell people, I tell people like
I tell people, I probably I probably played in the.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Greatest McDonald's American Game ever.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Right, So it's me Stephan, Marlburry, Kevin Gone That, Vince Carter,
Paul pi, Antoine Jamison, Tyronel, Wayne Turner, just like all
these great players that made it to the NBA. That's
that's having an impact right now on the world. Ron Mursa,
you know, so list go on.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, sham, I mean you got the ninety seven Arizona
team that won the National Change.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah, yeah, you had him on the ropes.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
I know.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Well, I mean that that that that run for you.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Obviously it helped you on the map McDonald's All America Game,
But yeah, I mean that.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Not many people have a story like that.
Speaker 7 (24:05):
No, No, like you said that, that run was the
run that made me realize that I could even have
an impact on life. And it was the time that
the move came to everybody seeing it and it just
changed of course, it changed the course of dribbling and
it changed the course of my life.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
What Jake Jet's first thing you said when it got on,
He goes, well, we talk about slamming Bibbie into Sie
Miles side into each other.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Hey, well, thank you.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
So I just wanted to say, like, there's a whole
generation of people God that you know, like I was thirteen.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
In nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yeah, you know east By magazine and getting the Marcus
can Be you Matt.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Shorts and oh yeah, that was our universe back then.
So that's why I said, that a real treat for us. Man,
we appreciate it for sure.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
You know how many non basketball people I meet that
talked about that. So that's why I said, I know
it's a higher purpose because there's people that even don't
that's not even in the basketball now, that see at
certain jobs and they'd be like, man, you did the move.
And these are lawyers like like, oh man, that's that's
(25:10):
good stuff. Love it, that's awesome. Well listen, there's different
halls of fans. There's a Hall of fame. Person shame God,
sham God kind enough to join us.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Thank you so much. Let's have a great season.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Let's go and again we want to thank God, sham
God for that time. Jake, you aren't kidding. I mean
that that that interview could go two hours. I think
about the grind of an NBA season, how difficult it
can be, get to Milwaukee three in the morning, got
a game that night. Having that guy in his positivity,
in his relationship ability with with our team, and not
to mention how talented he is, I can absolutely see
(25:41):
why Jamal Mosley went and got his friend to be
a part of the staff.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, and then that's before you get into the skills
development that Bryant and Kobe in the nineties.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Uh Mark Cuban, I mean Luca Kyrie, Luca Kyrie.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I really liked what you said at the end about
being a Hall of Fame human, because you know, a
lot of times if your NBA career doesn't necessarily work
out the way you thought and you end up in
China and doing the overseas.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Thing, it it embitters you.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
And he's got such a fresh perspective, he's got such
a such good ideas about teamwork and about what rowing
in the same direction all that stuff actually looks like.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
And then on top of that, he has the cachet
to say, oh, yeah, they named a move after me.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yes, I'm not just like a really good player, I'm
a legend.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
In the streets of New York City at Rutgerd Park.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
So uh yeah, I uh boy, that was that was
that was pretty special.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Thirteen. That was one of those that thirteen year old
Jake was, Oh.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
You would have had to pinch me to let me
know I was gonna interview God Sham God.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Someday you're talking to a lot I mean you're talking
to a lot of you remember the shorts.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I mean everything, ay, thing that went with that.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I mean you're talking to checking off the lists all
the legends that we've been able to talk to here
through throughout our NBA career. But that was fantastic and
you can see why he's gonna have a immediate impact
on this Magic team, There's no question about it. And
where Yeah, we're thrilled to have them, and I think
we could certainly do a ton more content with God
Sham God. We want to remind everybody all season long,
(27:13):
you can watch the Orlando Magic on FanDuel Sports Network.
If you order now a season pass about one hundred
and eight bucks, you're gonna get two tickets to an
upcoming Magic game. So you can go to the FanDuel
Sports Network app, or you can go to Amazon Prime
Video and you can find the app through there, and
of course listen all season long right here on ninety
six to nine in the game. Have a great weekend, everybody,
and we'll talk to you on Monday, six o'clock right here,
ninety six to nine a game
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Dante Marchitelli
Jake Chapman
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