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And the Magic getting some good news today, Jake. Potentially,
nothing official, but we are inching towards the return potentially
of Jalen Suggs here on opening night against the Miami Heat.
So without further ado, before we get into all of that,
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we're going to hear, Jake, let's hear from the head
coach of the Orlanto Magic on that. We'll get it
from him directly. But the Marc Telli household was up
last night, Jake. We love baseball, we love hockey. We
get into all of it. We watch all the sports,
football obviously, and then of course the Magic season. But
with my wife being born in Toronto being a die
hard Blue Jays fan, she left there right after they
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won their second straight World Series, so she moved to
Orlando as a huge Blue Jays fan. They have not
been back to the World Series since nineteen ninety three
until last night. Let the girls stay up. We had
a great time watching. I don't know how much you
get into the playoff baseball scene if it's not the
Guardians in it, but that was a great scene last night.
I'm so how I am devastated for Seattle fans because
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there would have been something cool about a team having
never been to the World Series to get there. But
that doesn't matter. We are all in on the Blue
Jays and that was a big win last night.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
No, it looked It's rare in baseball these days where
I'm comfortable with both teams winning.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Right, Like it's hugely the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Or the Dodgers on the other side, and I like
whoever's playing them. And we talked about it yesterday, like
both were really cool stories, good fan bases, teams that
haven't been there in a while or ever. You know,
it's sort of following through Paula Banco's scope as far
as the Mariners went, and so he obviously was very
distraught by the end of last night. But pretty epic game.
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Anytime you're talking in game seven, it's more likely than
not going to deliver, and boy, George Springer absolutely delivered
last nights. It was you know, I was I had
like one eye on it, and I was, you know,
Kelly and I were sitting out kind of going over everything,
like I said, or you know, we're getting ready to
leave on this long road trip this weekend, and so
we were chatting, but we had one eye on it,
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and we were locked in in that inning and the
seventh inning when Springer was coming up, and Kelly and
I both did the thing where we looked away and
we were talking, you know, the dogs were running or something,
and we looked up in the ball was landing in
the seats. So postseason baseball soccer always seems to work
out that way. You look away for one second and
you miss it. But it was a really cool moment.
I thought about, you guys, probably the only Blue Jays
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fans that I know that yes, household. Anyways, that was.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
We all remembered, you know, Devon White and Joe Carter
and those those cool uniforms back then, and those teams
Ricky Henderson and John Oliroud. I mean, he had some
great teams, some great names that were on those rosters.
And too, I think it's been thirty two years since
they've been there. It's kind of crazy. So yeah, it's
very exciting and I'm I'm happy for all of them.
And you know, I started thinking about this too. This
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is a tangent for for another show or whatever. But baseball,
I think is the only sport where you know the
game is decided by most more often than not, not
your best players. I know it was last night with
George Springer who hits the home run, but you know
it's Bizardo who comes in and gives up the home run,
and you know you're you're asking for you know, it's
it's the it's the top of the ninth and you're
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hoping for you know, cam Zone to come through and
Revas and you know you're your best players are not
up at the end of the game. Always Sometimes it
did end up falling in Julio Rodriguez's shoulders. But you know,
whereas basketball, if it's the end of the game, you're
gonna put it in Paulo Bancaro's hand, Patrick Mahomes is
going to have the football. You're gonna have your best
hockey players on the on the ice for the final
minute of a hockey game. But basically it's decided by
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the Ernie Clements, the Francisco Cabreras, right, it's it's a
lot of these are.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
The Bucky Dents, Right, It's oh yeah, he does. And
so it's always been. It's I think, probably the coolest
thing about baseball. I was talking about it last night
because I and this is a whole nother tangent, but
I've been really into lately, like tennis and just individual
sports where it's just it's very pure, and baseball that
moment where you have Bizarto and Springer and then sometimes
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it's some even more random guy obviously exactly further down
the roster that and that is pretty special. It's mono
amano at that point. And it was pretty special last
night watching Springer, who's been what he's been dogged pretty
much hadnty or.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, they gave him up for dead before the season started.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, exactly a whole lot of money. But that guy
always seems to deliver in those big moments and and
some guys just have a knack for it, and he
delivered again last night.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well it's pretty funny here. You think about Francisco Cabrera
bringing in Sid Bream. You think, you know, we know
big Poppy Jeter, and there's all these there's all these
big names, but it's you know, it's those unknown guys,
and it's always you know, if your closer is rolling, great,
but if he's struggling, the game is decided by not
your starter, more often than not, not your best picture.
But anyway, all that being said, a great series, great series,
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win seven games, huge home run, and that's what you
live for. You live to be that guy to have
that hit in that moment. And good luck to the
Blue Jays. Moving on, good luck to the Magic who
are going to start their season season thirty seven on Wednesday,
and we do so with some good news Jake. So
before we get into it, let's hear from the head
coach of the Orlando Magic the topic of Jalen Suggs,
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who has been practicing with the team the last couple
of days, and Coach Mo's gives a recap.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Good speaking of can you sense and excitement growing within
the group as they get prepared to play in front
of the home fans and tis just cheating off?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Absolutely? I think our day to day was that in
itself was guys just want to get to the game.
We've prepared enough, we feel prepared to get the job
done starting tomorrow night and these guys are really excited
about this opportunity to play in front of our home fans.
Uh the game one? Where do you think stamp with
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Jalen Suggs his availability, what he's done in practice. I mean,
he had a great day. And but like I continue
to tell you all, is that when we go off
of how he responds to the treatment and what he's
been doing with that group. And today was a good day.
Yesterday was a good day. So he's responding well. Has
he been able to do full contact?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yet?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
He has been able to do full contact?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yes, What would that mean whether he's back tomorrow or
then to come of weeks.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
For the team, Well, it's just great to see you
know that he's able to go through full contacts and
five with the five one five with the group of
guys being out there with his brothers as he likes
to as he continues to say, but it would mean
a lot for us. We know what he brings to
the table, his energy, his toughness, his defensive presence as
the head of the snake defensively, but then also his
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his controlling of the floor, you know, on the offensive.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
End when he comes back as a plan to kind
of manage it kind of ramp him kind of back
into playing regularly, so.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Especially with the opportunity. Absolutely, you know, we've talked about
you know, each guy is different in the way that
they respond back to treatment and when they come back.
But we also have to be smart and we think
long term, and that's going to be the focus when
he does work his way back into with the group.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I haven't heard this in so many years, but we
can say now a lot of experts say as well
that what the.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Magic is the top contender?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I mean, it could be in the top five and
use your confidence.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
How can you digest that information only that you haven't
seen it and it's not about rebuilding, it's about winning them. Well,
I think and we've said this before, and that's a
that's a great, you know statement. I do believe that
it continues to focus on our process. No matter what
the predictions are for the end of the year. We
got to start with game one tomorrow. And with that
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being said, we've also started with practice after practice. How
are we getting better every single day to put ourselves
in position to be at the best you know come
you know, May and June.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So again, nothing nothing, definitive to get coach Jamal Moseley.
But we're inching closer to a return for Jalen Suggs.
It depends on how he responds to treatment, which you
always like. He's gone through it here in the last
couple of days. He's gone through contact. He's gone through
five on five. That's what it's gonna take a series
of contact practices before you're gonna release him and clear
him to play. So hearing right there from Jamal Mosey, Well,
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hopefully we'll hear from Jalen Suggs tomorrow and hopefully he's
a full go. But it sounds encouraging that you could
have Jalen Suggs back in the lineup for Opening night. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Absolutely. Coach Moseley is saying today was a good day,
Yesterday was a good day, and he's responding, well, that's
two more good days than I had in my head
when I woke up this morning.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Good point. Yeah, good point.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
So any news being good news is obviously positive. But obviously,
you know, Coach Moseley would not have have said those
things if he wasn't you know, positive thinking. I think
if he was fearing the other shoe dropping at some
point he probably wouldn't have even floated it out there,
so good news. We'll keep our fingers crossed. We know,
and we've been saying the whole preseas in a training camp,
like we need Jalen to be Jayalen, not kind of
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not trusting his ability to cut, to jump to hit
the floor as he often does. We need him to
be to be football player Jalen. And so as long
as he feels one hundred percent good to go, then
certainly that'll be a big boost for tomorrow night when
you probably don't even need an emotional booths, but getting
him back will be like icing on top of the game.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh my goodness. And then you know you're looking at
three games in four nights. You're looking at certainly a
minute's restriction. If he is able to go tomorrow. You
don't know if he'll plays second night of a back
to back, right, you don't know if he'd if he'd
be cleared for both games, if he'd miss Atlanta or Chicago,
the front end or the back end. We have no
idea what that would look like. Again, you have no
idea if he's even back tomorrow. We're hoping, and we'll
find out tomorrow, and maybe even tomorrow ends up being
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a game time decision if he's able to go. But
all signs are pointing in the right direction. It's not like, hey,
well we're gonna look at it again in a couple
of weeks. We're we're going day to day here with
this thing. And there's a real, real strong potential that
Jalen Suggs will be back. What does Jalen mean to
this Magic team or We're going to have more on
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Speaker 1 (11:26):
Hey, hey, this is Jalen Suggs of the Orlando Magic
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you buy the season pass FanDuel Sports Network. Jalen Suggs
has not played a game since the middle of January. Jake,
you look at he played one game last year after
January third. You're talking about a guy that the year
before twenty three twenty four was all defensive third team,
probably was going to be second team, and probably inching
towards first team here eventually at some point with Jalen
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Suggs in the lineup, the Magic were twenty and fifteen.
Last year without Jalen Suggs, they were twenty one and
twenty six. So when he got hurt in that game
in Toronto on January third, the Magic were twenty one
and fifteen, sitting in pretty good shape having weathered a
lot of the storms. You just got Pollo and Franz back,
and now you have Jalen Suggs going down with that injury.
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They finished the season twenty and twenty sixth. Right after
the Jalen Suggs injury, they lost eight of ten, including
five in a row. So obviously it hit him. It
hurt him the loss of Jalen Suggs, who was having
a career year sixteen points per game that was the
highest of his NBA career, a career high in rebounds
with four, career high in steals with one and a half,
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and he was shooting forty one percent from the four
jake he was sixth and threes made. Having played thirty
five games, he finished sixth on the Magic and threes
made he was one out of He was one behind
Cole Anthony for fifth, and he was four behind Tristan
da Silva for fourth. He was four to threes from fourth,
and he didn't play half the season like that. That's
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how critical this guy is. So we'll touch on all
of that, you know, defense and all that in a moment.
But how about what he meant clearly to this magic
team twenty to twenty six without Jalen Suggs to close
out the season last year.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yeah, the fact that you were in January with the
injuries already to both Wogners and to follow that's right,
six games or whatever, you know. I I think that's
such a testament to what he was doing on both
ends of the floor. I mean, by the time Franz
went down, it was like, Okay, it's your team, not Jalen,
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Like your third option had become your first option just
because of process of elimination. And even still the team
was afloat and so it wouldn't be one hundred percent
because of him. It's because defense travels, but he is
the head of that snake as well. We talked a
lot last year about what having contagious called well Pope
did in terms of freeing Jalen up. Well, you don't
lose that with Desmond Bane if if, if nothing else,
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you have that element even more so so for me,
it's I think there's like a symbolic, a symbolic element
to having your starting lineup for opening night, Like you
want him to be available for tomorrow. But like I said,
if not, the important part is that when you get
him back, you don't have to temper it too much. Yeah,
he's gonna be on a minute restriction, but you don't
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want him fit thinking. You want him going out there
and reacting and being Jalen because that is exactly what
Desmond Bane, Paulo ban Carro, and Franz Wagner and Wendell need.
Is that sort of you know, ball of energy, sound
like the hedgehog pressuring ninety four feet. If you have
that guy, and if you have him early in the season,
it's just gonna make an immense difference. And then we
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talk about the spirit stuff and and and what he
means in the locker room. You call him the soul
of the team. You know, you certainly felt that. I
think I think some of that that you talk about,
kind of the swoon that you saw when he went
down last year was was they on the court impact,
but some of it was like and and you understand
why you almost felt bad for yourself at that point.
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It was like this team is snake bit yeah right right,
get our guys back now, Jalen goes down. Uh So, look,
I think there's there's a whole lot more to just
what you see on the floor that is represented by
getting Jayleen Suggs back.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
You know, a lot being made. And again it's message message,
it's blogs. It's a little bit of jail in himself
but not so much. But you know, it might not
be as reckless, might be a little more under control,
might be a little more reserved, might not die for
loose balls bs. This guy, to me plays one way, Jacob,
and I know, Okay, in a perfect world, you'd probably
harness some of that. You'd probably find a way to
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maybe not go all out as much so you can
preserve him, make sure he's there for the entire year.
I don't know that that's in the cards. I don't
know that you can ask this guy to pull back
in any way. I think the sheer nature, the sheer
reckless abandon with which he plays and again, much more
under control, than when he first got into the NBA,
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but still all out is what makes Jalen Jalen. I
don't know that you can put the toothpaste back in
the tube with him.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, I think there's Look, there's I think the first
two years of his career, you saw what reckless abandon
looked like when attacking the basket and when dribbling into
the trees. Yes, and that was what he trimmed away.
And so I think, yes, any likelihood that he still
had to steer in that direction, I think he'll be
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able to trim away when the loose ball is there
at mid court, Jalen Suggs is going to be on
the floor for it. Correct that you can't turn that off,
and I don't think anybody wants him to, and I
don't think he wants to.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
And driving hard to the basket and playing the way
that he plays that that that that's all he knows.
And defensively locking down guys and getting bending over, pounding
the court and being ready to go, I think is good.
Is gonna be huge. So now you're asking this guy
uh to come back, Listen, it's gonna take some time.
It's gonna take some time. He's played. He's played one
game since January third, right, so we've not seen the
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guy in an NBA game for going on nine months, right,
So that's it's it's it's hard to ask, but he
looks good in practice. He's ramped things up, he's doing
the contact drills, he's doing the five on five. Uh.
This style, playing playing fast, getting out in transition. Does
this not suit Jalen Suggs. You know, all the tools,
he has, all the tools to play in the subtempo
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style that coach Mosey wants to play.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah, and I think you mentioned it like two years ago,
you saw him, I think, settle into his role just
as far as being a floor spacer knocking down shots
from the perimeter. But then, you know, when he was
originally drafted, we didn't have Pollo and Franz at the
level that they're at right now. We we didn't have
Pollo period when Jalen and Franz were drafted. But as
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the pecking order sort of you know, sorted itself out offensively,
I think Jalen was able to focus more on defense.
He was able to expend his energy on that end
of the floor, but was able to say Okay, if
I just do two or three things really well, I
don't need to be the focal point of the offense.
I'm gonna help these guys as they are the focal
point of the offense. So I think that includes getting
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out and running to be sure to using the defense
to help you out. But we know Jalen in the
open floor is an absolute terror like attacking you know,
guys on the break and being able to get out
and finish in that way. And then we also know
he's very comfortable fanning out to to the three point
line and getting buckets like that in early transition.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I think it's perfect.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Obviously, it's perfect for Jalen Sugg's style, and I think
it probably is something that Coach Mosley has been wanting
to incorporate more and more over the last couple of
years because you have a guy like Jayalen. He's a
walking turnover machie. I mean, he's just forcing turnovers every second. Yes,
he's on the floor.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Well, all right, so we'll close with this, and you're
one hundred percent right, and we can't wait to get
him back and hopefully again the word is he's progressing well,
he's feeling good. He's practiced five on five contact drills
the last couple of days. See how he responds to
the treatment tomorrow, and hopefully he'll be all systems go
Opening night against the Miami Heat. We do have two
games tonight. It'll be the Houston Rockets at the Oklahoma
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City Thunder and then the Golden State Warriors at the
LA Lakers. No Lebron James. In that Laker game, Draymond
Green came out and said, I don't see any reason
we don't win the championship again. He likes his odds.
That's Draymon. But your thoughts on the first game? What
most interests you with the Houston Rockets? Is it Kevin
Durant as a Rocket? Is it the tallest starting lineup
in NBA history? Right with the men Thompson as your
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point guard?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Now?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
No, Fred Van vleied, what what interests you? Or are
you more interested to see okay see get their rings?
What excites you with that first game?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
All the above? I mean, I think, okay, see, I
don't think jaydev is gonna play tonight. Right, he's hurt,
but okay, see with the kind of the emotional high
and it is pretty cool like you ever think you'd
see Oklahoma City bringing home a ring like it's you know,
it's such a small market and and so there's I
think that part is cool.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It would have been them or Indiana, right, Wasn't that
great for the league, these small markets would have had
each one of them had a chance.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Absolutely, I do. The Houston Jumbo starting lineup is fascinating
to me, especially because if you go back two years,
that was kind of the buggaboo as far as Oklahoma
City went. Yes, they went and addressed it last year.
When they have a healthy chat and when they have Hertenstein,
it makes a big difference. But I do think I
think Houston is going to be able to trot out
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a lot of different lineups. I'm interesting to see can
they figure out what it looks like without Fred van Vliet.
Is this exactly what Iman Thompson needs kind of the
ball in his hands. That's gonna take a while for
him to for him to be able to be a
point guard or even the you know, the floor general
for a team. So it's gonna be interesting to watch
the two clashes of styles, but two teams that I
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think are absolute favorites to win the championship this year.
The only reason Oklahoma isn't isn't there at the end
of the season, in my opinion, is it's really hard
to do back to back and play that much basketball
over the course of two years like that would be. Yeah,
like they're the favorites in a lot of places, but
I think you're smart. Money's on the field.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Oh, it's amazing, and it's there. They wanted it so
bad last year and they hit so many big shots.
Everybody on that roster had their moments. It's a team
in every essence of the word. Can you repeat that again?
Can you do that? Can you have that same drive,
that hunger? Can you have that same health again? Like
you said already, playing without jadall Beer game number one,
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you had everybody a lot way. You did lose Chet
holmgrein for a while, but but for the most part,
you were healthy and you were certainly certainly healthy in
the playoffs. Has anyone had a more meteoric rise than
a Men Thompson. All of a sudden two months ago,
everybody said this is the most untouchable guy in basketball,
and and and general managers are saying that's who I'd
start a basketball team with that. I know he's a
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good player, but man, did that not just pop out
of nowhere in the last time I'm with you?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I mean, he's Look, yeah, I had a great year.
And even last year I was like, wait, he's defensive
player of the year already, every all these smart people
were telling me he's a defensive player of the year. Look,
he's awesome, and he's better than a question, much better
offensively than his brother. But his brother is terrible offense.
He's not good.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
At offensively, great great defensively.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
They're both great defensive players. And yes, I would kill
to have either of those guys on my team. But
I feel like a man's still got to wait.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Was But man, everybody's on the men Thompson, we're coming out.
We know what basketball season We're already with a terrible
offensively I like it. That's going to do it for
this addition of Magic Insiders. We're back tomorrow at six
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