Making Markets

Making Markets

Making Markets explores the psychology and structure that make up markets all over the world. Each week, Eric Golden speaks to experts about a different market so you can see what actually happens when money changes hands. From mainstream stock and bond markets to esoteric niches like vineyards, antique art, and crypto, we explain the transactions that underpin our economy. Visit joincolossus.com to find more episodes, transcripts and a library of content to continue your learning.

Episodes

June 6, 2025 53 mins
Today we are replaying my conversation with Robbie Cannon. Robbie founded Horizon Investments in 1999 and grew the company to $7B in AUM before selling in 2021. Today, he takes us on a tour of the asset management industry.  We cover many fascinating topics, such as the industry's evolution over 25 years, the blurring of lines between wealth and asset management, oligopolies in finance, the impact of private equity, the role of tec...
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My guest today is Daniel Dicker, a seasoned oil trader, former floor broker at the NYMEX, and well-known expert on energy markets. Over a three-decade career, Daniel has seen the full arc of oil’s role in financial markets—from a bellwether commodity to a sidelined input. In this conversation, we explore why oil has fallen off the radar for many investors, and what signs might bring it roaring back. We also discuss why renewables a...
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In this quarterly market recap, Matt Reustle turns the mic on Eric to analyze the tumultuous market environment of Q1 2025. They discuss the significant market downturn following the implementation of unexpected tariff policies, with the S&P down over 8% and Nasdaq down 12.5% by mid-April. Eric provides insights into how surprisingly high tariff announcements completely upended market expectations, the bond market's volatile reacti...
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My guest today for the second time is Mark Dow. Mark is one of my favourite thinkers on Macro, and his experience at the IMF, the US Treasury, and Wall Street gives him a truly unique perspective for the current moment. As we went through one of the biggest market and policy upheavals of my career, I reached out to Mark to help us make sense of this situation. We recorded this episode on Thursday, the 10th of April, and talked abou...
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My guest today is Barry Ritholtz. As the founder & CIO of Ritholtz Wealth Management Barry manages assets of over $5B. He is also a famous author and commentator, fondly known as the 'Prickly Prophet of Wall Street' for his contrarian views. In this conversation, Barry shares the origin story and the ideas behind his latest book, "How Not to Invest." We also talk about how he’s remained a force in the industry while calling out pow...
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My guest today is Evan Tindell. Evan graduated from MIT and became a professional poker player before entering the investing world. He’s now the co-founder and CIO of Bireme Capital, where he’s delivered over 19% annualized returns since 2016 by sticking to classic, old-school value investing. In this conversation, we talk about how Evan developed his philosophy, why he stuck with value through challenging cycles, and how he thinks...
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My guest today is Jonathan Birnbaum, the Founder and CEO of OpenYield. After over a decade in finance, Jon set out to tackle a challenge close to my heart—bringing a modern trading experience to the world of Fixed Income. Today, he breaks down how market structure, technology, and regulation have shaped the evolution of trading platforms. We also cover the challenges of modernizing bond trading, the role of liquidity providers, and...
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Today we are replaying my conversation with Phil Huber, the Head of Portfolio Solutions at Cliffwater. The private credit market has exploded recently, with Assets under management reaching a staggering $1.2T last year. I’ve been a little skeptical of this asset class, so I asked Phil to come on and convince me otherwise. We talk about the demand side of the equation, whether we are in a bubble, downside protection, due diligence, ...
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My guest today is SEC commissioner Hester Peirce, also known as the Crypto mom for her strong support of the industry. Commissioner Peirce was recently appointed as the head of the SEC’s new Crypto Task Force, and here, she lays out her overall, vision, key goals, and her thoughts on the Howie test and the tension between free markets and protecting investors. This is a short but very important episode just as web3 is on the cusp o...
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My guest today is Meb Faber, the co-founder and CIO of Cambria Investments, an RIA that manages over $2B in assets. Meb is also one of the biggest investing nerds I know, and today, we dive into a wide variety of topics, from taxation to portfolio construction to various asset classes. We start by diving into the 351 exchange, its mechanics, and the problems it solves for investors. Meb then shares his broad view of the market, ho...
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In this Q4 2024 recap episode of Making Markets, Eric and Matt examine how markets defied bearish expectations, with the S&P 500 up 23% and Bitcoin surging 150%. Eric provides insight into Bitcoin's growing institutional adoption, particularly focusing on BlackRock's record-breaking Bitcoin ETF launch and its implications for the broader crypto market. He analyzes the impact of AI on markets and businesses, suggesting that while th...
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My guest today is Eric Johnson, the Senior Technology Editor at the Journal of Commerce. With over 20 years of experience covering the intersection of logistics and technology, Eric brings a wealth of knowledge to the table. In our conversation, we explore the complex and fascinating world of logistics—how goods move from point A to point B, the myriad players involved, and the role of technology. We also discuss the challenges pos...
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My guest today is Charlie Shrem. Charlie was a founding member of the Bitcoin Foundation and BitInstant - one of the earliest Bitcoin exchanges. In this episode, he takes us through his incredible life story-starting with how an Orthodox Jew from Brooklyn got into the wild world of Bitcoin. He then talks about how Bitcoin went from a toy to a real store of value, the wild success of BitInstant, his time in prison, and how he met Ju...
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My guest today is Adam Abbas, Portfolio Manager and Head of Fixed Income at Oakmark. After recording over a hundred podcasts, I was thrilled to finally chat with another Fixed Income manager. We start with some valuable lessons from investing in the TMT sector, the impact of zero interest rates, and the role of monetary policy in the credit markets. We then explore today’s opportunities in fixed income, the growing influence of pri...
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My guest this week is Eric Seufert. In the words of Ben Thompson from Stratecherry, Eric is arguably the best writer and commentator on digital advertising, and today, he gives us a masterclass on the subject. We start by talking about Apple’s ATT framework, Meta’s recovery, and what the current ecosystem looks like. We also talk about X, advertising on the open web, and clearing many common misconceptions about targetted advertisi...
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My guest this week is Sam Rines, economist, author and Macro Strategist at WisdomTree. Sam was the first guest on Making Markets one year ago, where a lot of his takes proved to be highly accurate. So we decided to record part II one week before the election. We start with his base case for the election, the potential scenarios, and what has and hasn’t been priced in. We then move onto a wider discussion on the economy, including t...
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This week again, I’m again on the other side of the mic, as I’m interviewed by Joe Magyer, the founder of Seaplane Ventures. This is a wide-ranging conversation where we talk about the Fed rate cut, cover different asset classes including VC, PE, Fixed Income, and Public Equities, and my journey in building Canopy Capital. This episode first appeared on the Investing in Startups podcast hosted by Joe, which I highly recommend you c...
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Eric and Matt share insights on the market's performance through the third quarter of 2024, highlighting the S&P rising by 6% and a significant 50 basis point rate cut by the Federal Reserve, the first since the pandemic. Eric reflects on market sentiment and the complexities of predicting Fed actions, addressing the contrasts between past and present credit cycles, and emphasizing the importance of leverage awareness. They also de...
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My guest this week is Robbie Cannon. Robbie founded Horizon Investments in 1999 and grew the company to $7B in AUM before selling in 2021. Today, he takes us on a tour of the asset management industry.  We cover many fascinating topics, such as the industry's evolution over 25 years, the blurring of lines between wealth and asset management, oligopolies in finance, the impact of private equity, the role of technology and AI, and mo...
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My guest today is Jerry Derevyanny, a partner at Bengal Capital, a cannabis investing firm. Jerry has been a part of the regulated Cannabis industry since 2014, and today he shares the nuances of investing in this growing and unique industry. I enjoyed listening to Jerry’s frameworks for the industry, such as Ants versus Locusts, the similarities and differences between Alcohol and Cannabis, capital allocation, and valuation. We al...
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