My Safe Word Is More
Reality TV villain Corinne Kaplan is the captain of her own ship. Unfortunately, that ship is a modern day Titanic. Listen as she recounts her dating, dieting, and drinking foibles to her best friend and stand-up comedian, Al Jackson. The lovable duo offer hilariously questionable advice to listeners and to each other. This podcast is for anyone who has daily anxiety about the cringy things they’ve done. Corinne has done worse and isn’t afraid to share it! It’s not a podcast about life, it’s a podcast about perspective.
Episodes
June 2, 2025 • 38 mins
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May 26, 2025 • 47 mins
Corinne talks Survivor 50 and House of Villains. Al has some stories from the road as he returns to life as a stand-up comic.Enjoy.
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May 19, 2025 • 39 mins
Alright swimmers, time to pull out your rubmaps and find your way to paradise. That’s right guys, today we are talking about massages. Whether you’re on board the Lingham train, the Gouda express or the Tantric local, they all arrive at the same “spot”.
Our girl Corinne also learns that even close friends have side hustles we are unaware of… and let’s just say, “every day we hustlin’.”
Of course we found time to discuss the pros ...
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May 12, 2025 • 43 mins
Who’s got jokes? I’ll answer that one — not your primary care doctor. There’s a time to joke around and there’s a time to be serious. Unfortunately, our girl Coco got her times mixed up. But fortunately for us, it is hilarious.
In this episode, we learn about medical procedures and filling out medical forms in perpetuity until you need to see a psychiatrist as well. Our SWIMMERS will also be excited to find out that there are some...
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May 5, 2025 • 45 mins
How do you take your water -- sparkling or flat? Piping hot? Coming right up. Your entree? Bits of bread. No, it’s not your birthday in prison labor camp, it’s actually the preferred meal of one of our favorite SWIMMERS. We also learn that of all of the possible codes that open the Kaplan safety deposit box: I-LOVE-YOU is not one of them. Finally, we learn that there is at least one day of the year where it’s better for a woman to ...
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April 28, 2025 • 47 mins
We have a super special episode. Why? Because we have the world famous comedian and friend of Al’s on the pod - Mr. Jim Jefferies. He’s got a lot going on, from hosting a new reality show to recording a new stand up special. If you’re in Chicago, make sure to check out the taping of his one hour special at the Vic Theater on May 15-16. Or if you are on the other side of the country, head on out to Vegas and catch him at the Palazzo...
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April 21, 2025 • 40 mins
In this episode Coco gets caught up in the local dram of the SL, UT mall scene. She also runs into an Owl that possibly has a fake blue checkmark who teaches her a lesson she will never forget:
“Why chase clouds when you could chase clout?”~Wise Old Owl.
Wow, that’s so sad, I may need to ask a rando at the gas station to wipe my tears. Confused? We were too. And even more so after trying to pronounce a new condition we learned ab...
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April 14, 2025 • 46 mins
In this episode we put a nice bow on the Richard Jefferson visit. Our favorite pair briefly recaps what was going on before and after the recording of the Richard Jefferson episode. Al was at defcon 1 before the episode due to a frantic search for an item necessary for recording. Corinne recounts what happened post episode. No spoilers, let’s just say that it involved her best friend and goat fat. We’ll leave that there.
We also ...
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April 7, 2025 • 53 mins
Swimmers! Out of the pool for a major announcement! We have an actual love expert who has written an actual book on love that could actually change your love life, and you absolutely should click the link below and buy our guest, Francesca Hogi’s book: How to Find True Love.Not only is Franny a Survivor and TED Talk alum, but she is also a bestie to our beloved Corinne. In addition, she is a person that has chosen to take her boat ...
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March 31, 2025 • 53 mins
No matter how much insight Corinne provides us into her always interesting, forever tumultuous life, we will never have the insight that a friend of 20+ years would have. Lucky for us, we have such a friend visit us this week!
Ladies and gentlemen, up on your feet for the NBA World Champion, ESPN basketball analyst, and most importantly, friend of Corinne for over two decades—RICHARD JEFFERSON!!
Their friendship shines through, bu...
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March 24, 2025 • 47 mins
If you’re bored, the best thing you can do is turn on this podcast. The second best thing you could do is get some caffeinated vodka. *Now that I think about it, that might be the worst thing that you can do, so - of course our own Corinne has done it - and she has a story.
Feeling sleepy? Listen to our debate on why only selecting hot people at the sperm bank might be a bad idea. Also, find out Corinne’s bizarre revenge technique...
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March 17, 2025 • 45 mins
“I saw what’s her face at the airport!” This phrase no doubt rained down from the rafters of concourse C in the Salt Lake City airport as our Corinne dealt with the effects of being fame adjacent.
Another aspect of fame is the hate mail and we got some of that too. Introducing Webbercat, a shattered woman who finds time to juggle her anger of Corinne in between making “mojitis” and sh*tting out split-pea soup.
Of course we find t...
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March 10, 2025 • 41 mins
Women’s prison continues to teach us a lot. It teaches us what hairstyle is best when fighting someone that disrespected you on the yard. It also teaches us that there’s more than one use for a tampon - there’s actually probably about a half a dozen depending on if you’re in state or federal. Well, Corinne just added one more to that list and a very unexpected “location” I might add.
She also stumbles upon an Olympic sport that sh...
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March 6, 2025 • 3 mins
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March 3, 2025 • 50 mins
What up swimmers! I had the privilege of listening to this episode 3x and I must say this is an insanely funny one. Corinne and I are so stationed on our different places on the spectrum when recording that we honestly don’t know how it sounds or if it’s remotely funny, so whatever the result - it’s news to us.
A few lessons we learn in this podcast:
We learn that Cookie’s father purchased a “boyfriend” pillow for his daughter and...
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February 24, 2025 • 54 mins
I would like to proudly and formally announce our guest Eliza Orlins (@survivoreliza) has received an MSWIM gold card! The recipient of this card is granted the right to come back to the pod anytime as a guest. She was fantastic. We all fell in love with her as Coco‘s Amazing Race partner, full-time attorney, and 2X Survivor contestant.
Oh you want more? How about she gave us some real legal perspective on the various legalities ...
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February 17, 2025 • 48 mins
We’re talking about all kinds of crazy in this episode. Crazy ranges from: asking to enter a house in a poor neighborhood abroad, to a person that pays their charge card inside the actual bank. There are levels to crazy, it’s never a one-straight-jacket-fits-all affair.
Personally, I think joining a singles group for thousands of dollars with no guarantee of matching with a single, or even a guarantee of entry upon arriving at sai...
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February 10, 2025 • 49 mins
Why would you go through police academy training with no intention of becoming a police officer? Why would you go to a gun show knowing nothing about guns? Why would you workout to the point of total failure?
An acceptable answer is: you're in training to become a Navy seal. Another slightly less acceptable answer is that you are Cookie Kaplan simply killing time trying to fill the void previously occupied by dating apps.
Good ne...
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February 3, 2025 • 46 mins
Whether it’s Michael Jordan taking his final shot in the NBA finals, or a teacher receiving a standing ovation for 50 years of dedicated service in the field of education, there is a time where we will all take our final bow.
For our girl Corinne, this is her time.
No, she’s not leaving education.
No, she hasn’t won an NBA title.
She’s walking away from dating apps forever(ish). Take that: Bumble, J-Date, Black people meet, F...
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January 27, 2025 • 44 mins
In this episode, we learn that a simple task, like adding a few more notches to a leather belt, can lead to: a premature retirement, enrolling in a crafts workshop, and possibly a missed love connection with that workshop instructor.
We also learn how to flirt your way into the arms of an old flame. If giving your ex a grade-2 concussion doesn’t tell them you want to get back together, I don’t know what will. It’s called “flirting...
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