October 30, 2025 • 27 mins
YES Network analyst Sarah Kustok kicks off the Nets Pod, presented by Ticketmaster, with YES Network lead play-by-play announcer Ryan Ruocco! They break down the Nets’ rookie class and what to expect from the group as the season gets underway — plus Ryan shares his top five things he loves about being a dad.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in to the Nets, Bob with Sarah Kustack.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I am Sarah Coustack, and I am thrilled to be
talking with you, spending time with you, and journeying into
this Brooklyn Nets season together with all of you. I'm
so excited about this podcast, mostly because there's going to
be special guests, analysis, interviews. We're going to have a
whole slew of things for you to really dig into
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what it is that we love about this franchise, this organization,
this community and everything that is involved with the Brooklyn Nets. So,
without further ado, this of course is the first episode.
So I had to have one of my very favorite
people more than anything, a friend, a colleague, and someone
who has known the Nets inside and out pretty much
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forever because he has always been a Nets fan and
now has a great opportunity to call Nets game the
lead play by play of the Brooklyn Nets on the
Yes Network. Ryan Ruco Rooks, thanks for being here with
me for half and not only of course you see
him everywhere. Not only are you calling Brooklyn Nets games
with all of us, a great crew that we get
(01:09):
to hang with one another, you are also the lead
play by play for the WNBA, calling the finals, the
Women's Final four, all of that on ESPN, NBA on ESPN.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
So you're a little bit of everywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I know you're a podcast extraordinary because you are always
on them and have them yourself. But I'm most excited,
and I know we both are, about this Brooklyn Net season.
It's a rebuilding year. The organization is in a direction
where there is a lot of hope, intrigue and curiosity
of how things will play out. I think, most specifically,
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which we'll get into, the enthusiasm for Jordi Fernandez and
this coaching staff in year two. It was extraordinary to
watch what they were able to do last season, and
I think building upon that having the off season, having
the preseason, but doing so with a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Of new faces.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Historic five first round picks for the Brooklyn Nets.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
We've already got a little bit of taste of it.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
We've got a chance to see these guys not only
throughout the course of the off season, the preseason, but
now as we're getting regular season games underway. What have
been your early impressions. And let's start with Iegort Joeman,
the number eight overall pick. He is a guy who
not only are we excited to see what he is
on the floor, but off the floor, just his joyful
(02:29):
personality as disposition, the ability for him to really just
navigate through what it is that he is learning about
this team, this group, in this league. What stood out
to you most about him?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You know, well, first of all, I'm pumped to do
this with you. I'm pumped to talk you, pumped to
hang with you. And you know, Sarah and I are
we're just like really really close friends for a long time,
so just getting to do games together is so far.
So now we get to do a little podcast by that,
so this is right, I think, Well, first of all,
you know, the thing that stands out most to me
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about Yegor, it's how young he looks. This is the
thing that stands out most to me. He's nineteen. He
looks thirteen. It's really astonishing, and it kind of I
think it gives some perspective though, in all honesty, because
you realize he's nineteen, Like, you shouldn't be impacting the
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NBA in the way you're going to when you're fully bloomed, right,
Like even think of a player like Victor Webbin Yama, Okay,
who has extraordinary physical gifts and even him year one
to year three so much different, right, Like we see
these young men become grown men, And I think that's
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something that I'm excited about with Yegor is seeing how
young he looks and knowing what journey lies ahead of him.
And then the things that we've seen on the floor
tangibly that I think are really exciting. First of all,
it's just the comfort shooting. I mean, there were a
lot of you know, different draft analysis commentary that I
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had seen going into the draft and the after well,
can he shoot? You know he can? He has great vision,
he's a playmaker. Can he shoot? I don't think anybody's
saying that anymore. He can clearly shoot. It's right. It's
not just the results, which you know, he's tied for
the the he tied for the third most made threes
through the first two games of any rookies you know career.
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But it's the it's the different kinds of life.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
It's how you watch it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yes, I think so often we watch guys and keep going.
But I'm watching guys in war.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I don't want to look at the basket and watch
if it's going in or out. You can tell if
someone can shoot by how they step into it often
just their comfort level and especially doing in a game
and you see that it.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Can shoot, yeah, right, you can just you can just
see he can shoot. So this thing that we thought
was going to be a huge key for him to
be able to unlock potential feels like it's already been
answered in the affirmative right away.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And I want to give shouts to JORDI often says
it did. He references d D. Davidis Dalkas, who is
a member of the coaching staff, played overseas again, excellent
player in his own right, has been an extraordinary part
of his coaching staff. Which for as much as we
talk about Jordy Fernandez, you got.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
To give it.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's this whole collection of these individuals who have come
together and they work so well together. But the D
is a big part and is a big part of
his guy, his coach who's worked with him. And I
think those are the things that you start to see
with a lot of these players and these coaches.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
No totally, totally, and even so that has stood out
of time, right, I think we've already seen as playmaking.
You know, you think about the poise he showed. I
know Jordi mentioned it as well, the poise he showed
at the end of that Cleveland game, albeit it was
a loss, but an extraordinary comeback, that he was on
the floor for running the point throughout the vast majority
of that in that fourth quarter. And then something else
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I've liked is, you know, he has been really honest
and introspective and what he feels like he needs to
get better at. Because if you're a valuating his game
right now, you've said, we see the playmaking, we see
the passing ability, the shooting has been great. He hasn't
been able to get into the paint really yet. Right
it's a couple of games, but we haven't seen him
really be able to get down here'll and get into
the paint. And he's talked about that. He's like, I
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need to be able to get into the paint. I
need to be able to handle the physicality. That's something
I'm going to need to learn to work on, to
figure out technique so that I can create shots for
my teammates. And to me, I love seeing a nineteen
year old a couple games in instead of feeling defensive
or unable to break himself down, feeling secure enough to
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be like, hey, here's the areas where I already see
I have to improve in order to help my team.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, And I think it's interesting you look at all
these go through them. The rookie like bensar Off, he's.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Got he's got some speed.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
He got something to his game, he's got some juice,
and he's someone who has played internationally over he still
was playing against grown men. For as much as you
watch him being a nineteen year old, you can tell
there's a level of physicality how he uses his body,
his strength, his angles. I think with all of these
individuals Nolan try or like, it'll be and there will
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be bumps. And I think that's the important thing for
all of us, for NETS fans who watch and you're
e gauging this what this looks like. There's gonna be
ebbs and flows throughout all of it. But I think
early on just the understanding of getting this game, experience
these opportunities. Ben Saraf is a guy that I'm really
intrigued by because of his size, because of his craftiness.
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You talk about Yegor and you know, still working to
get downhill, get in the pain. You know, he's got
the IQ, the vision what he can do defensively shot
coming around, So is his shot that's that is a
question mark. I think the willingness to take it to
keep defenses honest is going to be important. But he's
someone who can get downhill and just how he looks
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at that.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
We've seen that. Yeah with Ben sorry coat you off, Sar,
But with Been it's been pretty apparent, right like just
through the preseason and now through the first couple of
games that he has that level of quickness and you know,
maneuverability and handle that he's gotten. The jolt that you
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see from him, it stands out right you watch him
with the ball in his hands and you're like, WHOA, Okay,
all right, So I mean that's something exciting and I
do think just high level on the rookies as we
kind of evaluate this, this is the fulkrim of the
excitement of the season, right like, this is what we're
going to be watching for. We understand it's a rebuilding here.
I think the Nets, to their credit, have been very
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honest about the kind of season it's going to be.
I appreciate that. So then what is it about It's
about seeing these guys individually and breaking them down, and
there's an enthusiasm we can get from that in seeing
their growth and their talents and their skills come out.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And I think that's a part of the markers. Unfortunately,
Danny Wolf hurts his ankle before the first game of
the season in Charlotte, so you know, work in progress,
saying with Drake Powell, but for all these individuals, what
do those markers look like? In what I think I'm
going to be really curious to continue to watch, is
we kind of shift you got these rookies, the valuation,
what it's like for their acclamation in the league. Jordi
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Fernandez has talked in the preseason going into the season
offensively about that point five seconds, making decision, make sure
playing unselfishly. I think all coaches and all organizations you
know this because we go to different preseason training camps
and what everyone wants to play faster, and everyone wants
to pressure the ball more and create turnovers, and like,
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there's a lot of the same markers that are said
of what you want to do. But I think early
on getting a chance to identify that and see that
and what that looks like and I think offensively, and
I'm hoping the Charlotte game was an outlier, just maybe
in terms of that acclamation or the compete level or
what that looked like when things did get bad in
going south. I think the ability for this group to
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stay together, and I think a part of that does
come from, yeah, the coaching staff, but also the enthusiasm
of these more veteran players, or how a Terrence Man
continues to fit himself into what this looks like, getting
Nick Claxton involved, Dayron Sharp coming in the growth of
those players. Noah Clowney is someone well, I'm curious, you know,
he has talked about him wanting to put the ball
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in deck more, expand his game, not just be a
three point shooter. And so I think for everyone involved,
to me, the ball sharing, the ability for the offense
to function in a way that, even if shots aren't
going through, does it look how you want it to look.
And I think sometimes those are going to be kind
of the markers of how you evaluate it. Okay, fine,
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you missed a shot, or however a play didn't get executed,
but with the process of what it looked like correct
I think defensively, though, is going to be the big
question mark, and one it's about actually being able to
get stops play the way you want to play, but
to the buy in of that.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Well, and that's what Jordi talked about after Game one,
right is he said we didn't play hard enough. He said,
we have sports science data that would tell us we
didn't play hard enough. And as you're pointing out of
the broadcasts are he didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Even do that.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
And sometimes that happens, But I love that that is
part of what we have come to expect now, albe
it in just the year plus.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Of a Jeordi Fernandez coach team. You know, like there
is going to be a standard of just compete, an
effort that is going to be upheld regardless of the
age of the players, regardless of their experience, regardless of
the expectations of the team. And it's those things that
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build the foundation then for what will hopefully be to come.
And I think, you know, the biggest takeaway for me
from last year was it was so obvious that Jordi
can coach, and that was my biggest seed of comfort,
if you will, at the foundation of this NETS rebuild
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was seeing, oh they got the right coach. They got
the guy they need to build this up. And I
don't think it's that easy to show that in a
season like the Nets had last year, and yet Jordy did,
and that I think we've already seen through two games
this year where you know, Jordi obviously knows what this
season is going to be like, but he is going
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to make sure that these players are living up to
a certain standard and that standard is then going to
carry them through, you know, times when the Nets are
going to you know, compete for the playoffs and hopefully
a championship and everything else. And so I just love
seeing the just the rigorous way that he makes sure
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to hold them to account, you know, whoever, whoever they
are up and down the wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I also and for those Nets fans in those who
wonder that or see that, or even to your point
of okay, how do you entirely evaluate that or engauge that, Yeah,
based on just what you look at or what the
record there was to me an immediate and for better
or worse, it's been through a lot of different coaches,
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seeing a lot of I know, you have two training camps.
With that there was an organization, a level of communication
and a shared responsibility among his staff. I would say
from from year one, from what that training camp looked like,
I said, oh, this this feels I think I was
talking about to Kapper. I was sitting there, but this
feels different. Yeah, and just how methodical everything was. It
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continued through the year. I think there was also the
help of really great veterans and so through the course
of this NETS organization, particularly Brooklyn years. Like we point
back to different teams, there was always veterans, you know,
I know we talk about this often at the Mary
Carroll A, Luis scola and and Davis A. You know,
there there's guys that were able to continue to showcase. Okay,
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this is how you show up, this is how you prepare.
And I'm I'm interested to see what does that look
like this yere, who may that be?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Because this is right now.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
The you know, the youngest roster by average age and
believe right now, yeah no one who's So how does
that manifest itself?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
What does that look like? And also how.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Does that continue to build these younger players. But I
think a big part of that is the coaching staff,
and I think Jordie's tough love with his players. How
he resonates with him is something that you know, I
think will continue to watch and to see. But to me,
that's the most comforting part, the most you know, enthusiastic part.
And also when we go to every other arena or
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we go to talk to other players, the respect level
across the board continues to be there.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You know, I'm using another Spurs analogy story here, but
I think thout it. A couple of years ago during
lemby rookie year, I was sitting with our buddy Richard
Jefferson getting ready to do a Spurs game and he asked, Pop,
who you know used to coach Richard? He said, who is?
I know what the culture feels like here? Who is
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who are the culture drivers? Now? What's your team is
so young? Like you know, they were in a complete rebuild,
and Pop said, I have to do it right now,
you know, I have to be the one to do it.
And to your point about kind of our curiosity of like, okay,
who are going to be the players on the floor
to step up and and to lead and to step
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into that, I think the comfort that you have is
feeling like this coach if JORDI has to be the
one to do it right now at this moment in time,
you feel great about that. Right, He's going to find
a way to imprint that on the organization. And then
players come along and you know, whether it is some
of the veterans like a Terrenceman or a Michael Porter junior,
or even a Cam Thomas a little further along today.
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You know, Cam's obviously been exposed to Jeordi, but Terrence
and Michael do they embrace some of the qualities that
Jordi has in start to infuse that into the younger players.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And I agree, And I'll even say this, and you know,
for those who wanted we knew those last couple of
roster spots was it looked like who are you keeping?
How are you keeping this for the development of the future,
the longest, the short term, the long term. That's why
I was so excited about Tyres Martin. Jalen Wilson, Yeah, yeah,
And to me, I can't say enough good things about
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this is the second straight year that Tyris Martin has
had to earn his way onto the roster. There is
a steadiness, there is an understanding and you know that
there and we even see the different points of the
game a trust from Jordy, from the staff for how
he's going to show up and how he's going to play,
even in Jalen Wilson and I think for those of
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us who get to sit in practices, kids, sit through
shoot around, see how people show up, see how people work. Again,
there's more to it than sometimes just the minutes on
the floor. It's just who is actually playing in certain
games or what that looks like. People that are able
to maintain a consistent positive energy, giving attitude regardless of
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what's happening, regardless of what's happening in their playing time
throughout the course of the season. To me, that is
such a huge value not only for a team in
an organization, but also for other players or other players
to see how that continues to help them feed off
one another. So to me, those that's just as important.
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Speaker 2 (17:53):
With that being said, what it would like for you,
Let's segment this into the first twenty games of the season. Okay,
first twenty five games of the season. Like, what will
indicate to you that this is moving in a direction
that you feel good about as a Nets fan. Your
dad's gonna call it.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Your dad's gonna text you, yep, he watches.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Go watches every game, and like what will make him
feel optimistic after game twenty.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Probably if they're you know, seventeen and three. I think
I think, honestly, it'll be do the Nets look like
they have at least two rotation players out of this
year's draft class projecting ahead? You know, I think it
could be as modest as that. Now, I think that
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would be like enough to feel like, Okay, you know,
I think ideally, obviously you want to get more than that.
But I think if through twenty games you feel pretty
confident you've got a couple guys who are going to
be able to play good NBA minutes for you moving forward,
I think you can start to build off that, and
then you start to look at hey like projecting ahead.
Is Bensaroff going to be a starter on a playoff team?
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You know? Is Yegor going to be a starter on
a playoff team? You know? How does Drake Powell translate?
How does trei Ora translate? Right? What does Danny Wolf
look like? To me? The what is going to be
a win in those first twenty games for me is
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really focused on those guys. It's really focused on the rookies.
Now that's not to say I'm not also curious about
the continued development of you know, a Noah Clowney, right,
and or a Tyrese Martin, who you know, I think
last year to your point, proved himself and the expansion
of his game. All of a sudden, we saw the
way he got downhill, the way he was able to
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drive the basketball and play make in addition to his
ability to shoot. But for me, it's really going to
be on those five guys and then there's one other
thing too, and it's Hire Williams. You know, like he yeah,
he's last year, like he was a guy who reminded
me of what we saw during the first rebuild under Sean,
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where you were looking for pieces that could be a
part of a future rotation on a contender, right, and
all of a sudden you had the development of you know,
Spencer Dinwiddie and Joe Harris and Karris Laverde and the
resurrection of d Loo. Yeah. Yeah, and and you were like,
oh wow, you know, like, okay, there's sciences you know
Zier watching him last year, I think we all kind
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of thought, huh, you know what, Like he looks like
he can be a legitimate rotation guy on a good team.
And the way he started this year, his shot has
gotten so much more consistent. He shot at thirty six
percent after jam one last year. We know the effort
in athleticism and energy he plays with on both ends
of the floor, and the way he shot it out
of the gates this year. To me, that's another curiosity,
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like where could Zier end up continuing to answer in
the affirmative for being a piece of the future. So
those are going to be my focus is the first
twenty games.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I like that, and I think the important aspect of
that is understanding for as much as we are talking
about youth and like it takes time in moments to
develop in this league, being in the right fit, what
that looks like, the landscape of where the Eastern Conference
is right now, and the opportunities that presents just being
in live game situations that you know that are tight
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down the stretch, or the competitive level of what this
team looks like. So, yeah, Zaire is someone who I
think there is so much intrigue about what he can
become and continue to become, and the fact that he
is a lottery pick and you know, there's talent there,
there's skill there, but if that shot continues to show
this type of consistency given what he does on the
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defensive end, Yeah, and just a pleasure to be around,
Like that's why I think that matters. I think it
it matters to have those type of guys in the
locker room that bring fun and bring spirit and bring
a joyfulness.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And that's exactly what you do, Ryan Ruco. And so we're.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Going to get in a part of the podcast. We're
gonna with our guests have a little special segment that
digs into things that they hold most dear to their heart.
So you can experience your Nets live with Ticketmaster, the
official ticket marketplace of the Brooklyn Nets. So we want
a ticket to Ryan Rucco as a father dad. He's
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got two children, Evi and Remy. Congratulations, Remy just born
this past summer. Your beautiful and incredible, smart, brilliant wife, Andrea.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
You won the lottery with.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Her, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
What are your five favorite things about being a dad?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Oh? Man, that's it. I love being a dad so much,
like I really do. I think the I think the
first thing that I love and you just experience it
in this really wholesome way as a father is just
seeing the way young kids interact with the world and
(22:57):
their innocent and they're good and they're just good. They're
just they're just good. They're innocent, they they're curious, you know,
and it kind of I mean, it should be a
lesson to all of us on how we can interact
with each other, how we can be kind to each other,
and you know, anytime and the wonder, you know, like
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it's just amazing seeing that wonder on a daily base.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I feel like you're kind of on that levels.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
So I imagine you guys have a.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Lot of childlike Yeah, definitely awareness of the world.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I've tried to never let go of the magic I
believe this life has, so I definitely do feel connected
to you know, that childlike wonder in that way. But
when you see it play out for your kids, it's
just this amazing thing. Like you know, you could I
could say to Evie like, oh my gosh, Evie, look
there's a branch that looks like a V and she'll
be like, oh you serious where you know, and and
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she'll think it's the coolest thing. And you know, like
it's just that, you know, I'm really being able to
observe that. So that's one big thing. I think.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Just the the the snuggles, Oh, the snuggles are great, Like,
you know, just being able to watch a show, Like
right now, EV's sew into Bluey, so we'll just snuggle
and watch blue She also loves her Princess movies with Remy,
like he's got the most delicious baby cheeky's he's a
he's a.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Chunker, so just like getting to hold him. Uh, that
would be up there. The free play when you're when
you're dad and you just go out and play, you know,
like it's just like we mean, even just go in
the yard and just like run around, you make up
a game with your imagination. You just go play like
there's some monster coming. Oh we gotta go. Even the
monsters go. You know. I love that. I think watching
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the way they grow and they learn. Like sometimes Evie
will articulate something to me and the way she puts
a sentence together, and I'm just like, you know, so
Evi's four Remy's four months, and I'm just like, how
do you like, how do you know this already? Like
how do you process this this way? So I'll give
you a funny one. Okay, so to go to bed?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Which do we have a time on on this podcast?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yah? Yeah? Yeah. So every every parent knows we asked
for five, next time I asked for two.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Keep coming.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Every parent knows like you're gonna have sleep struggles with
especially with your toddlers, right, You're going to go through
different things with that. Every every parent knows. So Evie's
thing we have to do when she falls asleep. This
is what has been our soulve for her sleep issues
is Andrea or I says outside her room, you are
safe and you are loved, okay, but Evie wants me
to like shout it, and I'm saying it like, you know,
(25:29):
kind of low, and so I say to her the
other day, I'm like, Evie, I can't. I can't shout it.
Daddy has to protect his voice, like for broadcasting. And
she goes, no, no, no, Daddy. When you shout it,
it makes your voice stronger, so that then you can say,
Caitlin Clark, you bet, like and I just stuck cracking up,
(25:51):
like how did you did?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
She say? You bet?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah? She did? Like like how do you put that
all together? So I think that was officially four but
it was probably more like unofficially eleven different things I
love about being a dad, So hopefully that's a.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Nice You can give one more than or not.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I want me to. I can. I feel like I
gave you a lot. You gave us a lot, maybe
more than you wanted. But I just love being never.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
More than we want, but always appreciate everything you give
us and everything you give us. On the Yes broadcast
for the Nets, all the NBA, all the w NBA
all everything you do, but most importantly thanks.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
For being my partner.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Always, You're going to have a fun season ahead.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
We will. I think one of the things that's cool
about the culture we have with nets on yes is
people can tell we're all genuinely friends. We are really close,
and so you know, whether it's through wins or losses
or whatever, hopefully that chemistry endears them to the experience
we get to have together.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And we are We're in it together.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
We're all on it together, and we so very much
appreciate you joining here on the next pod with Sarahcuse
Stack and you can find this on net YouTube anywhere
you get your podcasts. And as I mentioned, I know
Ryan ricieb was amazing, but a ton of special guests
to come in future.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
For so so ran myself until next time. We'll see
y'all later.
Welcome in to the Nets, Bob with Sarah Kustack.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I am Sarah Coustack, and I am thrilled to be
talking with you, spending time with you, and journeying into
this Brooklyn Nets season together with all of you. I'm
so excited about this podcast, mostly because there's going to
be special guests, analysis, interviews. We're going to have a
whole slew of things for you to really dig into
(00:23):
what it is that we love about this franchise, this organization,
this community and everything that is involved with the Brooklyn Nets. So,
without further ado, this of course is the first episode.
So I had to have one of my very favorite
people more than anything, a friend, a colleague, and someone
who has known the Nets inside and out pretty much
(00:47):
forever because he has always been a Nets fan and
now has a great opportunity to call Nets game the
lead play by play of the Brooklyn Nets on the
Yes Network. Ryan Ruco Rooks, thanks for being here with
me for half and not only of course you see
him everywhere. Not only are you calling Brooklyn Nets games
with all of us, a great crew that we get
(01:09):
to hang with one another, you are also the lead
play by play for the WNBA, calling the finals, the
Women's Final four, all of that on ESPN, NBA on ESPN.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
So you're a little bit of everywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I know you're a podcast extraordinary because you are always
on them and have them yourself. But I'm most excited,
and I know we both are, about this Brooklyn Net season.
It's a rebuilding year. The organization is in a direction
where there is a lot of hope, intrigue and curiosity
of how things will play out. I think, most specifically,
(01:44):
which we'll get into, the enthusiasm for Jordi Fernandez and
this coaching staff in year two. It was extraordinary to
watch what they were able to do last season, and
I think building upon that having the off season, having
the preseason, but doing so with a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Of new faces.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Historic five first round picks for the Brooklyn Nets.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
We've already got a little bit of taste of it.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
We've got a chance to see these guys not only
throughout the course of the off season, the preseason, but
now as we're getting regular season games underway. What have
been your early impressions. And let's start with Iegort Joeman,
the number eight overall pick. He is a guy who
not only are we excited to see what he is
on the floor, but off the floor, just his joyful
(02:29):
personality as disposition, the ability for him to really just
navigate through what it is that he is learning about
this team, this group, in this league. What stood out
to you most about him?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You know, well, first of all, I'm pumped to do
this with you. I'm pumped to talk you, pumped to
hang with you. And you know, Sarah and I are
we're just like really really close friends for a long time,
so just getting to do games together is so far.
So now we get to do a little podcast by that,
so this is right, I think, Well, first of all,
you know, the thing that stands out most to me
(03:04):
about Yegor, it's how young he looks. This is the
thing that stands out most to me. He's nineteen. He
looks thirteen. It's really astonishing, and it kind of I
think it gives some perspective though, in all honesty, because
you realize he's nineteen, Like, you shouldn't be impacting the
(03:25):
NBA in the way you're going to when you're fully bloomed, right,
Like even think of a player like Victor Webbin Yama, Okay,
who has extraordinary physical gifts and even him year one
to year three so much different, right, Like we see
these young men become grown men, And I think that's
(03:46):
something that I'm excited about with Yegor is seeing how
young he looks and knowing what journey lies ahead of him.
And then the things that we've seen on the floor
tangibly that I think are really exciting. First of all,
it's just the comfort shooting. I mean, there were a
lot of you know, different draft analysis commentary that I
(04:07):
had seen going into the draft and the after well,
can he shoot? You know he can? He has great vision,
he's a playmaker. Can he shoot? I don't think anybody's
saying that anymore. He can clearly shoot. It's right. It's
not just the results, which you know, he's tied for
the the he tied for the third most made threes
through the first two games of any rookies you know career.
(04:28):
But it's the it's the different kinds of life.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
It's how you watch it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yes, I think so often we watch guys and keep going.
But I'm watching guys in war.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I don't want to look at the basket and watch
if it's going in or out. You can tell if
someone can shoot by how they step into it often
just their comfort level and especially doing in a game
and you see that it.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Can shoot, yeah, right, you can just you can just
see he can shoot. So this thing that we thought
was going to be a huge key for him to
be able to unlock potential feels like it's already been
answered in the affirmative right away.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And I want to give shouts to JORDI often says
it did. He references d D. Davidis Dalkas, who is
a member of the coaching staff, played overseas again, excellent
player in his own right, has been an extraordinary part
of his coaching staff. Which for as much as we
talk about Jordy Fernandez, you got.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
To give it.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's this whole collection of these individuals who have come
together and they work so well together. But the D
is a big part and is a big part of
his guy, his coach who's worked with him. And I
think those are the things that you start to see
with a lot of these players and these coaches.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
No totally, totally, and even so that has stood out
of time, right, I think we've already seen as playmaking.
You know, you think about the poise he showed. I
know Jordi mentioned it as well, the poise he showed
at the end of that Cleveland game, albeit it was
a loss, but an extraordinary comeback, that he was on
the floor for running the point throughout the vast majority
of that in that fourth quarter. And then something else
(05:53):
I've liked is, you know, he has been really honest
and introspective and what he feels like he needs to
get better at. Because if you're a valuating his game
right now, you've said, we see the playmaking, we see
the passing ability, the shooting has been great. He hasn't
been able to get into the paint really yet. Right
it's a couple of games, but we haven't seen him
really be able to get down here'll and get into
the paint. And he's talked about that. He's like, I
(06:16):
need to be able to get into the paint. I
need to be able to handle the physicality. That's something
I'm going to need to learn to work on, to
figure out technique so that I can create shots for
my teammates. And to me, I love seeing a nineteen
year old a couple games in instead of feeling defensive
or unable to break himself down, feeling secure enough to
(06:38):
be like, hey, here's the areas where I already see
I have to improve in order to help my team.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, And I think it's interesting you look at all
these go through them. The rookie like bensar Off, he's.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Got he's got some speed.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
He got something to his game, he's got some juice,
and he's someone who has played internationally over he still
was playing against grown men. For as much as you
watch him being a nineteen year old, you can tell
there's a level of physicality how he uses his body,
his strength, his angles. I think with all of these
individuals Nolan try or like, it'll be and there will
(07:12):
be bumps. And I think that's the important thing for
all of us, for NETS fans who watch and you're
e gauging this what this looks like. There's gonna be
ebbs and flows throughout all of it. But I think
early on just the understanding of getting this game, experience
these opportunities. Ben Saraf is a guy that I'm really
intrigued by because of his size, because of his craftiness.
(07:34):
You talk about Yegor and you know, still working to
get downhill, get in the pain. You know, he's got
the IQ, the vision what he can do defensively shot
coming around, So is his shot that's that is a
question mark. I think the willingness to take it to
keep defenses honest is going to be important. But he's
someone who can get downhill and just how he looks
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at that.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
We've seen that. Yeah with Ben sorry coat you off, Sar,
But with Been it's been pretty apparent, right like just
through the preseason and now through the first couple of
games that he has that level of quickness and you know,
maneuverability and handle that he's gotten. The jolt that you
(08:20):
see from him, it stands out right you watch him
with the ball in his hands and you're like, WHOA, Okay,
all right, So I mean that's something exciting and I
do think just high level on the rookies as we
kind of evaluate this, this is the fulkrim of the
excitement of the season, right like, this is what we're
going to be watching for. We understand it's a rebuilding here.
I think the Nets, to their credit, have been very
(08:41):
honest about the kind of season it's going to be.
I appreciate that. So then what is it about It's
about seeing these guys individually and breaking them down, and
there's an enthusiasm we can get from that in seeing
their growth and their talents and their skills come out.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And I think that's a part of the markers. Unfortunately,
Danny Wolf hurts his ankle before the first game of
the season in Charlotte, so you know, work in progress,
saying with Drake Powell, but for all these individuals, what
do those markers look like? In what I think I'm
going to be really curious to continue to watch, is
we kind of shift you got these rookies, the valuation,
what it's like for their acclamation in the league. Jordi
(09:16):
Fernandez has talked in the preseason going into the season
offensively about that point five seconds, making decision, make sure
playing unselfishly. I think all coaches and all organizations you
know this because we go to different preseason training camps
and what everyone wants to play faster, and everyone wants
to pressure the ball more and create turnovers, and like,
(09:37):
there's a lot of the same markers that are said
of what you want to do. But I think early
on getting a chance to identify that and see that
and what that looks like and I think offensively, and
I'm hoping the Charlotte game was an outlier, just maybe
in terms of that acclamation or the compete level or
what that looked like when things did get bad in
going south. I think the ability for this group to
(10:01):
stay together, and I think a part of that does
come from, yeah, the coaching staff, but also the enthusiasm
of these more veteran players, or how a Terrence Man
continues to fit himself into what this looks like, getting
Nick Claxton involved, Dayron Sharp coming in the growth of
those players. Noah Clowney is someone well, I'm curious, you know,
he has talked about him wanting to put the ball
(10:22):
in deck more, expand his game, not just be a
three point shooter. And so I think for everyone involved,
to me, the ball sharing, the ability for the offense
to function in a way that, even if shots aren't
going through, does it look how you want it to look.
And I think sometimes those are going to be kind
of the markers of how you evaluate it. Okay, fine,
(10:42):
you missed a shot, or however a play didn't get executed,
but with the process of what it looked like correct
I think defensively, though, is going to be the big
question mark, and one it's about actually being able to
get stops play the way you want to play, but
to the buy in of that.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Well, and that's what Jordi talked about after Game one,
right is he said we didn't play hard enough. He said,
we have sports science data that would tell us we
didn't play hard enough. And as you're pointing out of
the broadcasts are he didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Even do that.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
And sometimes that happens, But I love that that is
part of what we have come to expect now, albe
it in just the year plus.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Of a Jeordi Fernandez coach team. You know, like there
is going to be a standard of just compete, an
effort that is going to be upheld regardless of the
age of the players, regardless of their experience, regardless of
the expectations of the team. And it's those things that
(11:45):
build the foundation then for what will hopefully be to come.
And I think, you know, the biggest takeaway for me
from last year was it was so obvious that Jordi
can coach, and that was my biggest seed of comfort,
if you will, at the foundation of this NETS rebuild
(12:07):
was seeing, oh they got the right coach. They got
the guy they need to build this up. And I
don't think it's that easy to show that in a
season like the Nets had last year, and yet Jordy did,
and that I think we've already seen through two games
this year where you know, Jordi obviously knows what this
season is going to be like, but he is going
(12:30):
to make sure that these players are living up to
a certain standard and that standard is then going to
carry them through, you know, times when the Nets are
going to you know, compete for the playoffs and hopefully
a championship and everything else. And so I just love
seeing the just the rigorous way that he makes sure
(12:52):
to hold them to account, you know, whoever, whoever they
are up and down the wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I also and for those Nets fans in those who
wonder that or see that, or even to your point
of okay, how do you entirely evaluate that or engauge that, Yeah,
based on just what you look at or what the
record there was to me an immediate and for better
or worse, it's been through a lot of different coaches,
(13:16):
seeing a lot of I know, you have two training camps.
With that there was an organization, a level of communication
and a shared responsibility among his staff. I would say
from from year one, from what that training camp looked like,
I said, oh, this this feels I think I was
talking about to Kapper. I was sitting there, but this
feels different. Yeah, and just how methodical everything was. It
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continued through the year. I think there was also the
help of really great veterans and so through the course
of this NETS organization, particularly Brooklyn years. Like we point
back to different teams, there was always veterans, you know,
I know we talk about this often at the Mary
Carroll A, Luis scola and and Davis A. You know,
there there's guys that were able to continue to showcase. Okay,
(14:03):
this is how you show up, this is how you prepare.
And I'm I'm interested to see what does that look
like this yere, who may that be?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Because this is right now.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
The you know, the youngest roster by average age and
believe right now, yeah no one who's So how does
that manifest itself?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
What does that look like? And also how.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Does that continue to build these younger players. But I
think a big part of that is the coaching staff,
and I think Jordie's tough love with his players. How
he resonates with him is something that you know, I
think will continue to watch and to see. But to me,
that's the most comforting part, the most you know, enthusiastic part.
And also when we go to every other arena or
(14:43):
we go to talk to other players, the respect level
across the board continues to be there.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You know, I'm using another Spurs analogy story here, but
I think thout it. A couple of years ago during
lemby rookie year, I was sitting with our buddy Richard
Jefferson getting ready to do a Spurs game and he asked, Pop,
who you know used to coach Richard? He said, who is?
I know what the culture feels like here? Who is
(15:11):
who are the culture drivers? Now? What's your team is
so young? Like you know, they were in a complete rebuild,
and Pop said, I have to do it right now,
you know, I have to be the one to do it.
And to your point about kind of our curiosity of like, okay,
who are going to be the players on the floor
to step up and and to lead and to step
(15:31):
into that, I think the comfort that you have is
feeling like this coach if JORDI has to be the
one to do it right now at this moment in time,
you feel great about that. Right, He's going to find
a way to imprint that on the organization. And then
players come along and you know, whether it is some
of the veterans like a Terrenceman or a Michael Porter junior,
or even a Cam Thomas a little further along today.
(15:53):
You know, Cam's obviously been exposed to Jeordi, but Terrence
and Michael do they embrace some of the qualities that
Jordi has in start to infuse that into the younger players.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And I agree, And I'll even say this, and you know,
for those who wanted we knew those last couple of
roster spots was it looked like who are you keeping?
How are you keeping this for the development of the future,
the longest, the short term, the long term. That's why
I was so excited about Tyres Martin. Jalen Wilson, Yeah, yeah,
And to me, I can't say enough good things about
(16:24):
this is the second straight year that Tyris Martin has
had to earn his way onto the roster. There is
a steadiness, there is an understanding and you know that
there and we even see the different points of the
game a trust from Jordy, from the staff for how
he's going to show up and how he's going to play,
even in Jalen Wilson and I think for those of
(16:45):
us who get to sit in practices, kids, sit through
shoot around, see how people show up, see how people work. Again,
there's more to it than sometimes just the minutes on
the floor. It's just who is actually playing in certain
games or what that looks like. People that are able
to maintain a consistent positive energy, giving attitude regardless of
(17:06):
what's happening, regardless of what's happening in their playing time
throughout the course of the season. To me, that is
such a huge value not only for a team in
an organization, but also for other players or other players
to see how that continues to help them feed off
one another. So to me, those that's just as important.
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Speaker 2 (17:53):
With that being said, what it would like for you,
Let's segment this into the first twenty games of the season. Okay,
first twenty five games of the season. Like, what will
indicate to you that this is moving in a direction
that you feel good about as a Nets fan. Your
dad's gonna call it.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Your dad's gonna text you, yep, he watches.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Go watches every game, and like what will make him
feel optimistic after game twenty.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Probably if they're you know, seventeen and three. I think
I think, honestly, it'll be do the Nets look like
they have at least two rotation players out of this
year's draft class projecting ahead? You know, I think it
could be as modest as that. Now, I think that
(18:41):
would be like enough to feel like, Okay, you know,
I think ideally, obviously you want to get more than that.
But I think if through twenty games you feel pretty
confident you've got a couple guys who are going to
be able to play good NBA minutes for you moving forward,
I think you can start to build off that, and
then you start to look at hey like projecting ahead.
Is Bensaroff going to be a starter on a playoff team?
(19:04):
You know? Is Yegor going to be a starter on
a playoff team? You know? How does Drake Powell translate?
How does trei Ora translate? Right? What does Danny Wolf
look like? To me? The what is going to be
a win in those first twenty games for me is
(19:24):
really focused on those guys. It's really focused on the rookies.
Now that's not to say I'm not also curious about
the continued development of you know, a Noah Clowney, right,
and or a Tyrese Martin, who you know, I think
last year to your point, proved himself and the expansion
of his game. All of a sudden, we saw the
way he got downhill, the way he was able to
(19:46):
drive the basketball and play make in addition to his
ability to shoot. But for me, it's really going to
be on those five guys and then there's one other
thing too, and it's Hire Williams. You know, like he yeah,
he's last year, like he was a guy who reminded
me of what we saw during the first rebuild under Sean,
(20:09):
where you were looking for pieces that could be a
part of a future rotation on a contender, right, and
all of a sudden you had the development of you know,
Spencer Dinwiddie and Joe Harris and Karris Laverde and the
resurrection of d Loo. Yeah. Yeah, and and you were like,
oh wow, you know, like, okay, there's sciences you know
Zier watching him last year, I think we all kind
(20:31):
of thought, huh, you know what, Like he looks like
he can be a legitimate rotation guy on a good team.
And the way he started this year, his shot has
gotten so much more consistent. He shot at thirty six
percent after jam one last year. We know the effort
in athleticism and energy he plays with on both ends
of the floor, and the way he shot it out
of the gates this year. To me, that's another curiosity,
(20:52):
like where could Zier end up continuing to answer in
the affirmative for being a piece of the future. So
those are going to be my focus is the first
twenty games.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I like that, and I think the important aspect of
that is understanding for as much as we are talking
about youth and like it takes time in moments to
develop in this league, being in the right fit, what
that looks like, the landscape of where the Eastern Conference
is right now, and the opportunities that presents just being
in live game situations that you know that are tight
(21:22):
down the stretch, or the competitive level of what this
team looks like. So, yeah, Zaire is someone who I
think there is so much intrigue about what he can
become and continue to become, and the fact that he
is a lottery pick and you know, there's talent there,
there's skill there, but if that shot continues to show
this type of consistency given what he does on the
(21:44):
defensive end, Yeah, and just a pleasure to be around,
Like that's why I think that matters. I think it
it matters to have those type of guys in the
locker room that bring fun and bring spirit and bring
a joyfulness.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And that's exactly what you do, Ryan Ruco. And so we're.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Going to get in a part of the podcast. We're
gonna with our guests have a little special segment that
digs into things that they hold most dear to their heart.
So you can experience your Nets live with Ticketmaster, the
official ticket marketplace of the Brooklyn Nets. So we want
a ticket to Ryan Rucco as a father dad. He's
(22:19):
got two children, Evi and Remy. Congratulations, Remy just born
this past summer. Your beautiful and incredible, smart, brilliant wife, Andrea.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
You won the lottery with.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Her, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
What are your five favorite things about being a dad?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Oh? Man, that's it. I love being a dad so much,
like I really do. I think the I think the
first thing that I love and you just experience it
in this really wholesome way as a father is just
seeing the way young kids interact with the world and
(22:57):
their innocent and they're good and they're just good. They're
just they're just good. They're innocent, they they're curious, you know,
and it kind of I mean, it should be a
lesson to all of us on how we can interact
with each other, how we can be kind to each other,
and you know, anytime and the wonder, you know, like
(23:19):
it's just amazing seeing that wonder on a daily base.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I feel like you're kind of on that levels.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
So I imagine you guys have a.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Lot of childlike Yeah, definitely awareness of the world.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I've tried to never let go of the magic I
believe this life has, so I definitely do feel connected
to you know, that childlike wonder in that way. But
when you see it play out for your kids, it's
just this amazing thing. Like you know, you could I
could say to Evie like, oh my gosh, Evie, look
there's a branch that looks like a V and she'll
be like, oh you serious where you know, and and
(23:51):
she'll think it's the coolest thing. And you know, like
it's just that, you know, I'm really being able to
observe that. So that's one big thing. I think.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
Just the the the snuggles, Oh, the snuggles are great, Like,
you know, just being able to watch a show, Like
right now, EV's sew into Bluey, so we'll just snuggle
and watch blue She also loves her Princess movies with Remy,
like he's got the most delicious baby cheeky's he's a
he's a.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Chunker, so just like getting to hold him. Uh, that
would be up there. The free play when you're when
you're dad and you just go out and play, you know,
like it's just like we mean, even just go in
the yard and just like run around, you make up
a game with your imagination. You just go play like
there's some monster coming. Oh we gotta go. Even the
monsters go. You know. I love that. I think watching
(24:39):
the way they grow and they learn. Like sometimes Evie
will articulate something to me and the way she puts
a sentence together, and I'm just like, you know, so
Evi's four Remy's four months, and I'm just like, how
do you like, how do you know this already? Like
how do you process this this way? So I'll give
you a funny one. Okay, so to go to bed?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Which do we have a time on on this podcast?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yah? Yeah? Yeah. So every every parent knows we asked
for five, next time I asked for two.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Keep coming.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Every parent knows like you're gonna have sleep struggles with
especially with your toddlers, right, You're going to go through
different things with that. Every every parent knows. So Evie's
thing we have to do when she falls asleep. This
is what has been our soulve for her sleep issues
is Andrea or I says outside her room, you are
safe and you are loved, okay, but Evie wants me
to like shout it, and I'm saying it like, you know,
(25:29):
kind of low, and so I say to her the
other day, I'm like, Evie, I can't. I can't shout it.
Daddy has to protect his voice, like for broadcasting. And
she goes, no, no, no, Daddy. When you shout it,
it makes your voice stronger, so that then you can say,
Caitlin Clark, you bet, like and I just stuck cracking up,
(25:51):
like how did you did?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
She say? You bet?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah? She did? Like like how do you put that
all together? So I think that was officially four but
it was probably more like unofficially eleven different things I
love about being a dad, So hopefully that's a.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Nice You can give one more than or not.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I want me to. I can. I feel like I
gave you a lot. You gave us a lot, maybe
more than you wanted. But I just love being never.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
More than we want, but always appreciate everything you give
us and everything you give us. On the Yes broadcast
for the Nets, all the NBA, all the w NBA
all everything you do, but most importantly thanks.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
For being my partner.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Always, You're going to have a fun season ahead.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
We will. I think one of the things that's cool
about the culture we have with nets on yes is
people can tell we're all genuinely friends. We are really close,
and so you know, whether it's through wins or losses
or whatever, hopefully that chemistry endears them to the experience
we get to have together.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And we are We're in it together.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
We're all on it together, and we so very much
appreciate you joining here on the next pod with Sarahcuse
Stack and you can find this on net YouTube anywhere
you get your podcasts. And as I mentioned, I know
Ryan ricieb was amazing, but a ton of special guests
to come in future.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
For so so ran myself until next time. We'll see
y'all later.
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