Post-Mortem: 2025

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Mike Rugnetta (00:10):
Friends, hello, and welcome to Never Posts Post
Mortem 2025, a year end quizshow for and about the Internet.
I'm your host, Mike Rugnetta,and this is publishing on the
final day of 2025. A last gasp,a final coup de grace, a look
back, not in anger. I've beentold to never do that, but in

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reverence and also anger. Today,here, and now, we bid farewell
to the complete clusterfuck thatwas 2025 by asking our esteemed
panelists organized in threeteams of two questions about it.
We do this to celebrate ourguests for what they've seen and
mock them for what they'vemissed, to celebrate the year

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for what it brought us, and todamn it for what it did to us.
On our first team, author of RawDog, the Naked Truth About Hot
Dogs, host of the Bechtel cast,comedian of jokes, actor of
characters Yeah. Jamie Loftus.Perfect.

Jamie Loftus (01:07):
Yeah. Yeah. Go, Jamie.

Alongside, author of, obviously, stories from my
timeline, host of the podcastRebel Spirit, and Courier's How
Is This Better renowned poster,Akilah Hughes.

Akilah Hughes (01:21):
Yes. Thank you.
Thank you.

Next up, team two, journalist, author of the
newsletter Garbage Day, and hostof the podcast Panic World, Ryan
Broderick.

Hello.

Alongside, as always, researcher of the
newsletter Garbage Day and thepodcast Panic World, Adam Bumas.
Great to be here.

Hello, Adam.

It's good to have you.

Georgia Hampton (01:42):
Classic. Classic.

And finally, team three, writer, filmmaker,
culture critic, video essayist,host of the podcast TSTV, a Twin
Peaks podcast, Lily Alexander.

Lily Alexandre (01:52):
I'm even happier to be here.

Wow. Wow.

Competition begins early this show.

Is. With

writer, host, video maker, Internet science
communicator at large, and hostof our findings show, the
preeminent live staged sciencecommunication game show, Tom
Lum.

Tom Lum (02:11):
I said, oh, no, when you said bio because I thought
you were gonna read, like, ourTwitter bio or something like
that. And here's Tom Lum. Pleaseplease hire me. Please my live
show. Please go.

K. We have some changes to make to Tom's bio
here and writer, host, videomaker. Please, please, please
hire him. Tom Lom. Welcome,everybody, and welcome back.
This is the exact same panelthat we had for last year's
inaugural show. So it's reallynice to have you all back here
again to play for a second

time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Here's how this is gonna work. As
mentioned, I'm your Quizmaster,master, Mike Rugnetta. I am
joined behind the scenes byNeverpost's senior producer Hans
Buto, and in front of the scenesby Neverpost's producer, Georgia
Hampton.

I've decided to be really good at math this
time.

Have you spent the last year training?

I believe last year I called subtraction
reverse math. So, frankly, itcan only go up

from here. We'll see if

we can top that. Georgia is gonna be our
timekeeper, scorekeeper, andadjudicator, so do not get on
her bad side. In the event thereare any disputes, informational,
personal, spiritual, Georgia isgonna be here to track down the
truth in a world which hasotherwise abandoned it, perhaps
with the assistance of Duck DuckGo and a few crystals.

I'm surrounded by all of my mystical magical
items to help me in thisendeavor today.

Alright. The rules, like last time, are very
simple. We have three rounds offive questions with one bonus
question after each round. Atthe end of the round, we're
gonna reveal and then scoreanswers one by one. Correct
answers are worth one pointunless otherwise stated, and
there are no penalties for wronganswers.
We politely request, as a matterof sportsmanship, you not go

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searching the internet foranswers as we play. Claude was
not invited to play this gamefor a reason.

He's a

piece of shit.

Fuck that, guys.

Fuck that. Yeah.

I'm so mad right now.

Before we get to the festivities and the
questions and the answers, wehave once again asked these
teams to name themselves. Teams,are you all prepared to
summarize your entire collectiveidentity into one short witty
epithet? We got some looks offear, some vigorous nodding.
Team one, Akila and Jamie. Whatwould you like to call

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yourselves?

I you know

I think we're still

If I recall correctly, we won last year by a
pretty wide margin. So I thinkwe should stick with what
definitely

for us. No. But you guys swept.

It was, like, it

was kind of embarrassing.

It is, like, that everyone had the Internet. It
seemed like Yeah.

It's cheesy.

So, yeah, the doghats are here to say

best of luck to everyone.

Okay. We got the doghats, Adam and Ryan.

Ryan Broderick (05:01):
So Adam and I were discussing. He said he
didn't want to be called crookedup white boys.

Adam Bumas (05:07):
So That's the name I just sent you.

So he he has he has offered he has offered an
alternative that I think ispretty good, which is so we're
gonna be called six seven nightsat Freddy's. You

caused Tom pain. Okay. Six seven nights at
Freddy's. It's very fun.

Oh, I forgot we're gonna have to keep hearing
that also. Oh, over and overagain.

Two hours of your life. Yeah.

You have to

do the hands. It's part of the name, actually.

The balancing hand motion is part of the name.

Yeah.

And Tom and Lily.

So I believe last year, we were Nerds of a
Feather. And so for the sequel,we are and once again, we're
doing a a colon name with a subname. So it is Two Nerds, Too
Furious Yes. Colon.

Lilishin Intomzable? Okay.

Two nerds too okay. Spelt out or numeral?
Numeral.

Thank you. All one word.

Adam Bumas (06:02):
Absolutely numeral.

Two nerds too furious. And then what was the
the subtitle of your

team name? Lilishin Intomzable. Excellent.

Alright. Amazing. We're gonna take a short break.
We're gonna listen to some adsunless you're on the member
feed. And when we come back,we're gonna play Never Posts
Post Mortem 2025.
Welcome back to postmortem.Which round should we start
with? How about round numberone? In this round, you are all

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gonna be answering questionsabout the big moments, the big
stories that broke containmentand either leaked from meatspace
to online or from online intophysical reality, a border now
so diaphanous, it's basicallyidiocy to be maintaining that it
even exists. In 2025, we allfinally got our wish, and Katy
Perry finally fucked off intospace.

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Unfortunately, she came rightback, and upon landing, declared
that she felt super connected tolove. Gayle King, also on the
flight, said, I may now get myears pierced.

Astronauts don't wanna tell you about the
urge to get your ears piercedafter you go to space.

Must be like an altitude thing.

It's ubiquitous.
They talk about overview effectabout

how seeing the entire Earth really makes you
feel connected to everybody, butthen what they don't mention is
what that makes you want to dois

Getting your ears pierced.

Yeah. There's, like, quote that astronaut, he,
like, looked into space, and hethought to himself, wow. They
should have brought Claire'semployee. Yeah.

I need more holes. That's what I was
thinking. I like you come backfrom space, and you're like, I
gotta get another hole. There'sjust no Yeah.

Get another hole in there.

Obviously. In a shocking case of announcing the
subtext, Pantone named the colorof the year landlord white,
sparking an amount of discoursenot easy to paint over. Nice.
Revolutionary protesters broughtdown the government of Nepal
under the straw hat PiratesJolly Roger flag from one piece,

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and proceeded to elect aninterim prime minister via
Discord. Yeah.
Sushi La Kharki is the firstwoman in Nepal's history serve
as both prime minister and aschief justice of the Supreme
Court of Nepal and was electedin the youths against corruption
Discord server.

Come on, Nick.

In this round, you're gonna answer questions
about the Internet relatedcomponents of other big stories.
Let's do it. One, we all helpedset a Wikipedia record this
year. Following a major event inMay, traffic to all Wikimedia
sites peaked at around 800,000hits per second. This is

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according to the WikimediaFoundation more than six times
normal levels and an all timehigh.
What event precipitated thisrush of uplooking?

What month was it? Sorry.

May. May.

Don't know.

I'm just staring into the middle distance.
Please. Stop.

I'm so excited to hear whatever this answer is.
Tom is Tom cannot keep ittogether.

Tom Lum (09:21):
Tom I was laughing at Lily laughing keeping it
together.

Jamie, I I just found wrote.

I have an idea, but I don't remember what month
that happened.

Yeah. Oh. Yes, Jamie. 100%.

Okay. And time is up. Okay. Question number two,
round one. In 2017, entrepreneurBilly McFarland and rapper Ja
Rule teamed up to launch theluxury live music event Fyre
Festival, which ended up alegendary debacle.
This year, fresh out of prison,McFarlane hosted the Phoenix

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Festival with all of the vowelsremoved, so the Fynex Festival
in Honduras, which according toJezebel, had both food and
bathrooms.

In this economy? For both holes. For both holes.

You gotta accommodate all the holes

in and out. Separate toilet.

Separate toilet. Well, of course.

Food go in and food come out.

So you

gotta have both

Yeah.

It took him about eight years to learn that.

It was both holes.

So the question here is, why the rebrand? Why
not Fyre Festival two? Becausethe recognition is massive. In
fact, the Fyre brand was sold inan eBay auction in July for not
quite a quarter of $1,000,000.Players, can you tell us what

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aged Internet brand bought andthen pivoted the Fire brand?
And for an extra point, couldyou also name the company's own
pivot after a similar deal wheretheir IP was purchased by an
unrelated group?

All all I'm thinking is hurt brands hurt
brands.

Adam Bumas (11:11):
There there have been so many of these, like,
things that people vaguelyremember, and then they get
bought and relaunched andremodeled.

Because you're like, oh, I know that and I like
it. And then you go and it'sjust like, now it's an
investment bank or something.

Yeah. You should okay. Okay.

I'm putting it in.

Guest in old things.

Yeah. I think that's the thing to do here. The
I will warn you that when we getto it, the answer to this is
enraging. Oh. Number three,round one.
In June, Jeff Bezos and LaurenSanchez got married in Venice,
putting on reportedly theseventh most expensive wedding
in modern history. The couplerented an entire island for the

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three day affair, which Venice'sMinistry of Tourism estimated
would generate roughly twothirds of the city's annual
tourism take. For all of theircash and panache, there was one
detail that slipped through thecracks. The wedding was
ridiculed online for a specificdecor disaster. What was it?

Sorry. No. This isn't right. That's all I got.

That's all I got.

I think it I think it works. I think it works.

K. Four. Microsoft Satya Nadella said the
biggest problem facing AI isn'tcomputing power, but power
power. Data centers currentlyaccount for nearly 5% of The
United States overall peak powerusage. Over the next two years,

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that need could double, butinfrastructure is not growing
fast enough to meet demand.
So Microsoft is taking mattersinto its own hands. They will
pay $16,000,000,000 with$1,000,000,000 of help from the
Trump administration to do what?To solve the problem of not

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enough power to meet AI demand.

I mean

The they're basically the Microsoft is
pressuring the Trumpadministration to, like, build a
project that Microsoft needs.That that's right?

They're spending a lot of money to build a
project with the help of ofTrump in order to get more
power.

Yeah.

Jamie. I I think what's
gonna become clear about this is like, I think this
has been a year where I've hadthe healthiest attitude towards
the Internet, and I'm beingpunished for it. Yes.

Say that.

Say that.

We said earlier that there are both points
victories and moral victories,and perhaps the shortest way to
a moral victory is to have justlogged off.

Last question's gotta be, like, 500 word essay
describe the joy of touchinggrass. Like

Yeah. And I think that's how we come back
ultimately.
You can't even think of a joke answer. I still
don't understand the question.

Question five, round one. The November 4
election of Zoran Mamdani asmayor of New York City
apparently had some pretty bigimpacts. According to the
research and data team atPornhub, the election affected
viewership numbers that day. Oh.Players, please tell us, do you

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think viewership of Pornhub wentup or down the day Zoran Mamdani
was elected?
For an additional point, you canguess how much you think it went
up or down. And if you getwithin 10 percentage points,
we're gonna call it good. Andfor an additional additional

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point, what was the mostsearched for term in New York
City the day Zoran Mamdani wonthe mayor race, up a whopping
957%.

I'm trying to think what I was searching that
day.

What was I DDoSing porn up with? Yeah.

You know? I Once you get into the goon or flow
state, it's, like, really hardto keep track of what's going
on. But

Now that's a team name.

Yeah. Once I'm hooked up to my rig, I'm not
really sort of thinkingstraight.

Yes. Put it, please. I think we got the first
part right. That rules.

Players, let's score round one.

Okay.

Question number one. What event precipitated the
rush of uplooking on allWikimedia sites, which peaked at
around 800,000 hits per second?Team one, the dog hots, what'd
get?

He said Two. Poop. Nailed it.

Like, caught the pope. Yes. Thanks, guys.

That might

have the

pope. Know that's That

is correct.

The election of Pope Leo in May is what did it.

Awesome. That's all on Jamie. I had nothing.

Let's let's let's not get used to us having the
right answer. Let's Yeah. Let'sYou

were so unsure. You were really daunting
yourself, and you've nailed it.

Well, just keep watching. You know what mean?
No.

Six seven nights at Freddy's.

We also had new poke.

Nice. As

we know, nailed it. Two nerds, two furious.

Yeah. We put down queen died again.

Any specific queen or just, like, a queen in
general?

I I just remember it was so big last year, The the
or the year before prior thatthe queen died. That was like
the big Wikipedia thing.

It was the whole Jesus thing. I know this year
has been busy, but

There was just some some queen searching runoff
that just got over into the nextyear. No. She

died again. No. She did it again.

She was queen Elizabeth the second and third.

Doing the, like, Taylor Swift thing. Well, she
she can't stand not being thefirst. There's all that we can
do. Oh my god.

They brought her back together again.

It's true. One last job.

Main character syndrome.

One last

job. Wanted to they wanted

to distract everyone from the Epstein stuff,
so they brought it

back. Yeah. It's like I'll

die again.

K. Question number two. Please place your
answers to question number two,which was, can you tell us what
aged Internet brand bought andpivoted the fire brand and what
their own pivot was when theirIP was purchased? Six seven
nights at Freddy's, what did youwrite?

It's Limewire, and they're a crypto company
now.

That is correct. Bummer. That's I

were literally writing about this before we
started recording today.

Well well.

Crypto like the most boring pivot at this point.
What year is it?

You know? I think are they are do any specialize
in NFTs? NFTs.

Adam Bumas (18:14):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was what they were doing
when they purchased LimeWire,and now they're acting as if
that never happened.

Yeah. They're trying to, like, get one to
forget

about that.

I understand why.

Two nerds too furious. What was your answer?

The company was Netscape, and the product is
Netcapes.

Wow. And if they do

anything while you're falling or whatever, it's
actually very inefficient.

Yeah. That doesn't sound like a good
product.

But the fashion might

Oh, but

Adam Bumas (18:41):
crypto does?

More useful than an NFT. Sure. Yeah. And the dog
hots?

This is on me. You know? I didn't know. So I said
Napster, and I don't know whatthey would have pivoted to. Not
music, essentially.
I mean, you were in theneighborhood, though.
That's that's all Akil. I I guessed ask Jeeves.
Wow.

That's cool. Napster did get purchased and
turned into, like, an AI musicplatform. So

Thanks, Riot. I

got you. Alright.

Question number three. The wedding of Jeff Bezos
and Lauren Sanchez was ridiculedonline for a specific decor
disaster. What was it? We didn'tknow this one. Two nerds too
furious.
What was your answer?

Well, the the guys on the cake, the figures,
they forgot their pants.

Naked cake toppers.

Yeah. Butts out.

Is that really what it was?

No. No. It was not. I

would believe that though.

I think that's the closest we have to a
credible answer. I know. Thoughtit was.

The dog the dog hots, what was your answer?

I think inviting Sydney Sweeney was just a weird
thing to do.

The first domino that fell.

Yeah. That's you're going to your friend's
wedding, and she's just there.What?

Interesting to describe Sydney Sweeney as a
decor disaster. She's in theroom.

If the shoe fits. Yeah.

Six seven nights at Freddy's. What was your
answer?

Yeah. So we didn't know this one, but I
guess that Jeff Bez's head wastoo shiny.

That's always true. Honestly.

I mean, good pull.

They didn't polish it. They polish it too
much or no?

It's like one of those, like, anti paparazzi
things where it, like, the glareblares at the camera so

you can't see.

None of the

pictures came out

Adam Bumas (20:27):
of beautiful Mediterranean sun.

It was

Adam Bumas (20:29):
just too much.

Too much.

Yeah. It's almost head head too shiny.

It's like a magnifying glass.

So the answer to this is that at the reception,
there was really ugly officecarpeting. Ugly gray squares of
office carpeting at thisotherwise immaculately designed
extremely expensive wedding, andit really does draw the eye
down.

It's pretty unforgettable.

Adam Bumas (20:53):
Except by all of us.

Except by all of you guys.

Right. Yeah. We believe for you.

I think it is radical and beautiful that none
of us cared enough about thiswedding to know the answer.

Question number four.

We've got this one. We've got this one.

This was definitely right.

Microsoft is gonna pay $16,000,000,000 to
solve the crisis of not enoughpower for their AI data centers
by doing what? The doghots. Ouranswer was Xboxes.

Just Xboxes.

But with a little
smile and

with a smiley face. I will say I

am charmed by the smiley face.

I was

gonna say, maybe we should

have a secret point counter for this.

For just for how cute we can make.
How how charming can we be while being completely
wrong?

Listen.

Guys, we wanna be at least in the conversation at
the end

of this.

Six seven nights at Freddy's?

Adam Bumas (21:41):
Yeah. We said that they were gonna build this
program called Stargate, whichthey said it was gonna be
focused in in the West and just,like, build a bunch of new data
centers with government money.

It does sound true. It might it might actually
be true. Let's read the lastanswer, and then we'll have
Georgia adjudicate.

Okay.

Two nerds too furious, what did you have?

Yeah. Just they just stopped doing AI. They
developed more clarity. Yeah.

They're gonna pay $16,000,000,000

to just knock it off.

Yeah. They're done. They said they're done.

Similar to Stargate, we almost we almost
put build a The Matrix.

So the answer that I have here is that they
have recommissioned 3 MileIsland. Woah.

Oh, right. I actually do remember this.

They will pay $16,000,000,000 to recommission
3 Mile Island and to open it asa power plant. I think 80% of
whose output will go toMicrosoft. For anybody in our
audience who doesn't know, 3Mile Island is a famous power
plant in Pennsylvania in TheUnited States that is the site
of the only domestic nuclearincident in The United States.

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One of its reactors went intomeltdown for a short amount of
time. No one was injured, andthere is no long term health
impacts from that, but itnonetheless is like a really big
sort of, like, culturaltouchstone for, Americans'
reticence and hesitance around,nuclear power.

Adam Bumas (23:14):
It's why Homer Simpson works at a nuclear power
plant because that was a bigstory in the late eighties. Oh.

So I'm seeing here that that was the first AI
data center under Stargate.

I also just saw that Microsoft makes Xboxes.

That's true. They do. They

do make Xbox.

So I think we both

get a good version of gonna stop. They never said
they were gonna stop.
A power plant could be anything.

Okay. Georgia, who's getting points?

Ryan, where did you see the that it's the first
Stargate thing? I'm not seeingthat.

Made it up. No. I I saw it in a Bloomberg piece.

So Okay.

This is actually confusing. But I I it seems like
the 3 Mile Island Nuclear plantis part of the Stargate stuff, I
guess. But I'm I don't reallyunderstand this. But

I'll give you a point.

Yeah. I'll give you a point.

Yes. We're all having fun.

For doing original research in the
recording.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually so true.

It hasn't really occurred to us to get right
answers, so you guys are kindaspeeding ahead of us.

Okay. Question number five for round one. You
can place your answers. Didviewership of Pornhub go up or
down the day Zoran Mamdani waselected? How much did it go up
or down, and what was the numberone search term in New York City
that night?
Up over 900%. Six, seven nightsat Freddy's. What was your

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answer?

Adam Bumas (24:34):
We said that the that the swing in Pornhub
activity went up the day ZoranMamdani was elected, and we said
it went up by 90%. And the mostpopular search term that saw,
like, several times overincrease was MELF.

I'm guess I I am sort of half remembering that,
but I I feel like it wassomething about, like, angry
gooning on Staten Island, andthen I was like, well, what's
the funniest thing for people onStaten Island to be angry
gooning about? And it was likemilk. That milk's yeah. Because
I I feel like what I read waslike it was upset Cuomo
supporters, and I was like,well, Cuomo supporter,
obviously, they're be looking atmilk. So that that was the
thinking there.

That is actually true that Staten Island
was an outlier. I don't think Ican give you a point, but I do
wanna tell you that.

I want to just have that on the record that I
knew that.

Yes. Do you want that on the record, Ryan? Yeah.
I Jack and Island.

It's how I make my money. Jack and Island. I
know and stuff like that.

Okay. Two nerds, two furious. What was your
answer?

We thought the opposite. That's smart. My
thought was they were going downbecause everyone was having a
ball in real life celebrating.

Having sex in real life.

Yeah. And so, yeah, our our most searched was
socialist sex positions. This isour hole.

From each according to their means, to
each according to their need.

And my knees are huge.

The dog hots.

We said up, but a modest up. People were busy that
day. Twelve just twelve percent.And the search term is unrelated
to the election. It was stepsiblings, which is Yeah.

Just every single one. Classic.

Yeah. It's just unrelated.

Some days you want that more than others. Yeah.

Okay. So for the entire day, viewership was down
over the The biggest dip intraffic across the whole day was
at 10PM. 41%.

Good. Wow.

And the most searched term was big butts. Big
butts. Okay.

Wow. That's Well,

So I wanna give a point to two nerds too furious
because y'all did get it rightthat it went down.

Alright. And finally, in round one, we have
our first bonus question fromour friend Morgan Sung, host of
the excellent podcast Close AllTabs. Hans, can you please roll
Morgan's tape?

Morgan Sung (27:05):
Hello, players. The hottest show on TV right now,
HBO's heated rivalry, which incase you've missed the hype is
about two rivaling hockey starswho fall in love. A multi year
situationship and lots of smutensue. And even hotter than
that, it's all gay yearning. ButHeated Rivalry is actually based

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on a sequel to a novel thatoriginally started as a fanfic
on archive of our own.
Players, please tell us, whatship did that original fanfic
revolve around? Hint. It's aDisney property.

It's a Disney property.

For an additional point, what was that couple's
ship name? And for an extrabonus point, women love boys
kissing. This genre of boy onboy romance was largely
popularized by manga and anime.What is the Japanese term for
female fans of this genre? Andfor one more point, BL is so

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popular online now that theJapanese term for female fans of
this genre is now a meme verb.
Players, can you use that namein a sentence? No.

I could. Okay.

Here I'll

I've never answered any trigger question
faster than this

one. Okay.

I'll read them all out again. Tell us what ship
did that original fanfic revolvearound Okay. Hint it's a Disney
property. What was that couple'sship name? What is the Japanese
term for female fans of thegenre of boy romance that was
largely popularized by manga andanime?
And BL is so popular online nowthat the Japanese term for

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female fans of this genre is nowits own meme verb. Players, can
you use that name in a sentence?

Adam Bumas (28:47):
I forget. What's the what's the ship name for Mickey
and Goofy? Help me out.

I don't think you can say that in polite company.

Are you talking about the geeky thing? Tom. I
love the geeky shit.

Woah. Cool. There's only one bed in the
hotel. Oh my god.

Just put it in.

Okay. Hans will play us the tape where she
reveals the answers.

I'm gonna I'm gonna use the restroom because I
know this one. I don't even need

a Oh my god. Wow.

Two nerds two furious, what were your answers
to Morgan's questions?

The ship was a beast and chandelier. The name
is Bandelier. The physic thegeometry of it, I don't know how
it works. Yeah. And to

be clear, we're not talking about Lumiere. We're
not misremembering his name.We're talking about the
chandelier. The big

chandelier. The

genre is Yowie, which I feel pretty good about
for no personal reasons. AndTom, do you wanna do you wanna
give us the final component ofthis?

Vegeta, what you don't know is I'm Fujo ing out
right now.

That's good. Did you work on your Goku impression
before this?

A little bit. But weren't we all? I I said I was
prepping for this.

I'm out right now.

Let's fucking go.

We got this, man.

Alright. The dog hots. What do you have?

Bob Iger and Michael Eisner, also known as
Bisner.

I guess technically

a Disney property.

Yeah. It's just The fanfic is called earnings
call. And
it's kind of hand trick kind of thing because,
yeah, they're both jacking offfuriously on opposite coasts.
That's exactly right.

Adam Bumas (30:53):
Are they doing it to the shareholders? Are they
listening in?

Yeah. The shareholders are the fans of the
thing.

They're part of it.
They're part

of it. Actually, Hassan, the shareholders are
watching.

I just heard

But then the shareholders are kind of into
it.
And Yeah. They kinda like it. And they're like,

come on guys. Going up?

Yeah. And I can't use it in a sentence. It's
actually it's too explicit forthis. Powerful. Yeah.


Well, if you all read garbage day, you would know
that it's based on CaptainAmerica the Winter Soldier Yeah.
A Marvel property owned byDisney. The ship is Stucky,
which is Steve Rogers and BuckyBarnes. The term for boys love
in Japanese is Yowie, and thereare two ways to use the fandom
for Yowie in a sentence. One isI'm straight Fujoshi ing it to

(31:42):
heated rivalry right now, or I'malso Fujoe ing it to Stucky on a
o three as well.
Damn.

I'm damn

Oh, sorry. The cops just pulled up. I gotta go.
They're arrested.

Alright. Let's hear the answers from Morgan.

The original fic Game Changers is based on Bucky
Barnes and Steve Rogers fromMarvel's Captain America. The
couple's ship name is Stucky.Female fans of Yowie, also known
as BL for boys love, are calledFujoshis, fujos for short. Used
in a sentence, babe, he hadrivalries on. God forbid a girl

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fujou out on a weeknight.

Wow. Ryan

Wow. It looks like he just wrote the exact answer.
That must be really good foryou. That's great.

Alright. That's the end of round one. Georgia,
how are our scores looking?

Wow. Okay. In last place is the dog hots.

Shut up, Bryce. Two points.

In second place, with three points, is two
nerds, two furious. We'll takeit. In the top spot, six seven
with a whopping seven

points. Listeners, Ryan's doing the hand
gestures every time. Everysingle time. That's

Adam Bumas (33:03):
of the numbers.

Meme number. Meme number. Congratulations to
everybody. It is still anyone'sgame. Alright.
We're gonna take a quick break,and then we're gonna go on to
round two. Alright, everybody.Welcome back. Here we are in

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round two of Never Posts PostMortem twenty twenty five. In
round two, we turn our attentionto jokes for people without
friends, aka Internet memes.
Nothing beats a jet two holidayexcept, of course, dopamine
poisoning from your Aprilnothing beats a jet two holiday

(33:47):
video. In 2025, Duolingo killedDuo the Owl. People rushed in
droves to accuse variousparties, Luigi Mangione and Ezio
from Assassin's Creed amongstthem. Before long, the language
learning company revealed theofficial cause of death, a hit
and run by a cyber truck. Sixseven happened and continues to

(34:12):
happen.
Yeah. And finally, TikTok wasbanned for fourteen hours,
leading legions of users tomourn the app and celebrate all
it brought into their lives onlyto have it return the next
morning. A sale has beenarranged, but not finalized,
likely putting the app undercontrol of a cadre of president
Trump's cronies. I hope everyonehere is looking forward to

(34:32):
posting their federally mandatedCharlie Kirk remembrances every
year.

Charlie Kirk. We go. Everybody. Let's let's

Adam Bumas (34:43):
get on beat. Let's do some

warm ups. In

this round, dumb questions about dumb jokes.
Everybody ready? One. On01/06/2024, Chicago based
comedian, Winslow Dumaineposted, had to make a pilgrimage
to the Chicago Rat Hole on apicture of a rain soaked piece
of pavement and in it, arainwater filled rat shaped
hole. Thus launched the saga ofChicago's most beloved landmark,

(35:11):
which was pilgrimaged to,discourse about, filled, and
then re excavated.
In 2025, an international teamof researchers from Tennessee,
North Carolina, New York, andCalgary determined with 98.67%
likelihood Six seven. That theChicago rat hole was made not by

(35:31):
a rat, but by what?

Yes. I'm dropping subtle hints that it
was a tiny little cat. It was asmall not a kitten. That'd be
too sad. It was a tiny littlecat.
Everyone remember to write thatdown.

Okay. Question number two, round two. Guys,
gents, fellas are having a toughgo. From the male loneliness
epidemic to sometimes needing tobe a little nicer to women,
straight men everywhere had areal rocky 2025. They can't even
go outside and enjoy theirleisurely pastimes without being

(36:08):
mocked and ridiculed online.
For three points, could eachteam please describe in as much
detail as is possible oneperformative male?

Do we get points for all of the ones we can do?

I'm just doing a free write.

No. This is now we're looking for maximum
performative male.

Paint me a beautiful picture.

Okay. Okay.

Feel like this more than any other question,
everyone is so locked in.

We're building worlds here.

Yes. Yes. Oh my gosh. I can see him. Okay.

He's here.

Yes. Yes.

It's just Ryan.

It's Joe.

Oh, I wish. I wish.

We cut to Ryan that

he's Yeah. I

Adam Bumas (36:54):
really wish.

Oh, got him.

We we have a we have a novella.

Oh, I'm so excited. Excited.

Oh my god.

Okay. Question number three, round two. This
year, TikTok user lils bowlsmarabella two has held her
libubu over an open flame. Shehas assaulted it with a
screwdriver. She has driven overit with a car, pretended to dunk
it in Coca Cola, and mimedwashing it with dish soap,
attracting hundreds of thousandsto millions of views on various

(37:29):
videos and endless enragedcomments for her original claim,
which is that said La boo boo iswhat?

Yep. Mhmm.

What quality is she claiming is the case of this
LaBubu that justifies her tryingto light it on fire, poking it
with a screwdriver, running overit with a car, etcetera,
etcetera?

Phone's getting so tiny on the performative.

I'm watching this happen.

We're still adding to it. Oh my god. Yeah.

K. Four. Oh, you think that nonsense is your
ally, but you merely adopted it.I was born into it, molded by
it. I didn't see sense until Iwas already a man, and by then,
it was nothing to me butconfusion.
For every Italian brain rotcharacter you can name, you gain

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one point. Spelling does notcount. Spelling doesn't count?
Spelling does not count.

Okay. Do you know these?

Yeah. I have a teenage sibling, so I can There
go. Yeah.

Italian brain rat character? Yes.
This is a whole thing. I remember this. Hold on.

Okay. I have, like, one.

K. Question number five. What is this sound
from?

Woah. Woah. Yes.

I don't know this one. Is it like a Pharrell
beat?

Achilles du Vini?

I do.
I'm just typing in Italian words I think are real.
That's gotta be at least a point.

Alright. Those are all the questions for round
two. Let's score round two.Question number one. With 98.67%
likelihood, a group of academicshave determined that the Chicago
rat hole was not made by a rat,but by a what?
The dog hots. What is youranswer?

Is it still Bisner? Still

it's earnings call. Squirrel. You are correct.
Yes.

Yes. Thank you, Jamie.

The one answer I knew.

67NightsAt Freddy's. What is your answer?

We weren't totally sure, so I guess
TheBear.

Adam Bumas (39:51):
Yeah. You know, the star of show. That's what it's
about. Right? Bear?

I've heard Jeremy Allen White is short, but not
that short.

Is he the bear?

He is

rat hole.

The bear

is the spirit of the city of Chicago.

That's right. Right.

To nerds too furious, what was your answer?

It was a squirrel, but not just any
squirrel. It was a screen age,scrutin screenger squirrel.

Screen age. Scrutin, screenger squirrel.

Yes. I'm doing an extra point for pizzazz.

Squirrels in the concrete.

Okay. Question number two. Please describe in
excruciating detail oneperformative male.

I need to be wowed.

Six, seven nights at Freddy's. Let's do you first.

Yeah. So I just looked outside my window in Bed
Stuy and just described a manthat I saw, and he was listening
to Claro drinking matcha,reading books, also drinking
belt boba and wearing salvagedenim.

God. The salvage denim pole.

He's got, like, 50 pounds a gear.

See he was listening to Claro.

Oh, you can see it.

He held he held he held up

his his his iPod. No.

He he's

holding the the LP.

Yeah. He's retro.

Oh, vinyl. That is

yeah. Alright. Pretty pretty damn good.

Alright. Two nerds too furious.

Oh, this, I say reading bell hooks by an open
window smoking a cigarette.Yeah. It is the record store day
edition of Claro's first LP. I'ma bit of a Fujoshi. Shout to
Fujoshi.
A Fujoshi comment.

She can Claro mention. Wow.

Got a

I got a The

POV of this is really selling me, so I'm going
to afford two points.

I like to picture myself down on the
sidewalk. He's like calling out,you know,

from above. Yes.

No one asked.

That's why. Hello?

Finally, the dog hots.

Tote bag, feminist slash ally t shirt, painted
nails for the first time. Wow.Found to be emotionally abusive
by multiple women. And he'sreading a book, probably all
fours by Miranda July. Oh mygod.
Wow. Posting about perimenopauseon his Instagram story. He's
listening and learning.

Akila and Jamie. Points. Three points. Points.
Three points.
Three Three Three points.

Points. That's a fucking novel. That's the
American

novel. I started sweating

out of fear and anger. Man.

Wow. Okay. I mean, everyone obviously gets
points.

Yeah. He just learned about bread crumbing
because a bunch of girls said hedid that.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's using he's using therapy
language to yell
at you. That's right. Yeah. He has an older
sister, though, so it's fine. Ohmy god.

It's not just that he's avoidant. He's
avoidant dismissive. He does

the attachment style book. That was a crucial
one.

God. Exquisite. The Miranda okay.

Okay. Next question. What's the deal with
that Lububu? Two nerds toofurious. What was your answer?

Well,

she was trying to convince us that it was
alive.

Oh. And

had to be put down.

Have to delicious libubu till it's free.

Our real answer. I believe am I right that this
is the I have the only 24 caratgold Le Boo Boo.

Yes. Alright.

The one and only. Woah.

The dog hots, what was your answer?

Yeah. We said Ugly.
He said it deserved

what happens to Honestly, wrong. Not wrong.

The audience did not agree, but she was adamant
that it was the it was just toougly.

It was just too ugly to live.

Yeah. That is wrong, but it is also right.

It is it is a hideous looking object.

God, it really is.


We also said gold.

It is the one and only 24 karat gold. Le bobo.
Le bobo.

But I will I will give it to you.

Okay. For every Italian brain rock character you
can name, you gain one point.Alright. The doghats.

Alright. I think the first one is a real one and
then it it kind of devolves.We've got Ballerina Cappuccino.
Yes. I've said Mary ManicottiBugatti.
I feel like boobellini wassomething.

Yep. Yep.

There was, like, chimpanzini Luigi mama. Luigi
mama.

Luigi mama's pregnant. That was okay. Luigi
mama's pregnant.

Is that an extra point if one of them is
pregnant?
Yes. I'm
gonna keep that. I'm gonna start using that.


Adam Bumas (44:42):
Here we got Bombardino Crocodillo. We have
Tongue Tongue Sahur. We haveBallerina Cappuccino, just like
the Dog Hots did. Then we haveChimpanzini Bananini, which was
one of several chimpanzinis,actually. And we're ending it
with the OG, Tralla Lero Trallala.

Wow. Two nerds too furious.

It must be sad to know these things.

Yeah. Okay.

Let's see. A marinade black cappuccino.
Crocodillo bombardino. AndrewCuomo.

Andrew Cuomo.

I mean, I'm inclined to agree.

I'm put I'm putting a point in there.

He'd take the press. Alright. I can confirm
ballerina cappuccino. Mhmm.Crocodillo, bombardino.
Chimpanzini, Bananini. Yes.

Oh, damn. I

will confirm for you for that that one is real.

Correct. Yes.

Luigi Mama. Luigi Mama's pregnant.

Luigi Mama's pregnant would have gotten you a
point, but I only see LuigiMama.

That's tough. That's tough. Andrew

Cuomo. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

The brain the brain rots in several ways
around.

The brain does

rot in many ways. So I'm an Italian. Whose brains
have rotted. Right?

Question number five in round two. What was that
sound from? Six seven nights atFreddy's.

We guessed on this one because it was brain
rot. So we guessed it was myfavorite band of the year, the
Velvet Sundown.

Interesting. Interesting. Two Nerds Too
Furious.

Steve. Hello. Wow. Wow. Steve.
You say, Laurent. I hate itmakes me feel millennial coded
saying it so earnestly, but Ilike it.

That is correct. The dog hots?

Me and I was thinking of, like, a dance on
TikTok. It says this dance onTikTok where people do where
they, I wanna say, cover theirface or something.

I feel like I already know the answer to this,
but there's a secret bonusquestion here, which is anybody
who can sing the entirety of theverse in French that is in most
of the videos can get an extra10 points.

10. That's the last one. He has arms and legs.

Yep. He nailed it. Tom got it. So Tom gets an
extra 10 points.

Tom, we just won the game.

Oh,

this is delightful.

Good job, Tom.

Very nice.

It's just a little cartoon fish who's orange
and has arms and legs. That's

it. It's a return to form for the Internet. It

kinda is. That is the end of round two. Georgia,
how's everybody scores looking?

Okay. I've done the impossible. I've added
numbers together.

She prevailed.

There has been quite an upset, but not in terms
of who's in last place. No. I'msorry to say, my darlings, the
doghats have seven points.

We've been here before. I just feel like this is
something
where losing is winning. Losing is winning in
many

ways. Yeah.

I saw my friends this year.

Moving on. There's been a dramatic upset
because six seven is in secondplace with 14 points. And
specifically, I think because ofTom's knowledge of Le Poisson
Steve, two nerds too furious isin first place with 22 points.
Wow.

We are the champions. Now now, Lily, all we
have to do now, we have to stallthe clock. Stop the couch.

Stop the couch. That last round. No.

Okay. Here we are at our second guest bonus
question. What question fromYonder contributor is posed? Tis
a second bonus question, and ourfriend Kurt White, social worker
and psychotherapist and cohostof the podcast Unraveling is the

(49:14):
sun. Hans, tape, please.

Kurt White (49:18):
Hello, Never Post. This is Kurt White, friend of
the show. For 10 points, whatGen Alpha defining trend took
the world by storm over the lastseveral months?

This is a buzz in first sort of scenario. So who
are Buzz.

Six seven.

Buzz. Okay. I think Akila got it.

Kurt White (49:38):
If you said six seven, you're correct.

It's the name of your team, Ryan. Get your head
in the game.

Listeners, the look on Ryan's face is as
delicious as you would. Yeah.

Kurt White (49:49):
Now this is fascinating to me because I
think it's an example of a kindof linguistic accidental
convergence. Because thisnumber, six seven, was already
in the popular culture. In whatpopular expression for 10 more
points?

Buzz, six foot seven foot Lil Wayne.

Incorrect.

Adam Bumas (50:12):
Buzz?

Adam.

Adam Bumas (50:15):
Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Incorrect. Tom, Lily, do Was

it just, like, six seven? Like, for the the
basketball player who would,like, score points and whatever?
I don't watch sports.

This is

the more advanced version of the 69 position. It's
just is

is he is he referencing the song? Is that
what he's talking about?

Kurt White (50:36):
If you said to be at sixes and sevens, you would be
right. For a 100 points, whatfourteenth century dice game is
the origin of the phrase atsixes and sevens.

100 points.

For a 100 points, what's the fourteenth century
dice game at sixes and sevens?

Buzz Schlooples.

It's a

good guess, unfortunately. Incorrect.

Adam Bumas (51:02):
Buzz backgammon?

Incorrect. Buzz, old Yahtzee?

They called it that at the time. That's true.
Yeah.

No. Didn't even prove it.

Yeah. Great guess.

Kurt White (51:15):
If you said hazard, you're correct. And probably
smarter than most people. No.Who is widely credited for
popularizing the phrase six andseven in Western European
culture?

Who is widely credited for popularizing the
phrase six and seven in WesternEuropean culture?

Was Napoleon. Incorrect.

No. He was really lying about his height.

J Robert Oppenheimer. Incorrect.

Adam Bumas (51:51):
It sounds like British currency, like 6
shillings or whatever.

Kurt White (51:55):
If you said William Shakespeare, that's 10 more
points for

you.

Oh, fuck.

Kurt White (52:00):
So I hope that you have a wonderful New Year, and
thank you for everything.

Aw, Kurt.

I do have a scoring update, which is that
doghats are not in last placeanymore. Six seven is in last
place with 14 points.

Oh. Wow. Reversal.

Doghats are in second place with 17 points.

We're gonna hold on

to it.

Catching up to two nerds two furious with 22
points. So who knows what'llhappen?

We'll find out in round three. See everybody soon.
And we're back. Okay. The lastand final and also final round

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of Never Post Post Mortem twentytwenty five.
In this round, we are concernedwith your safety. 2025 was a
dangerous year with breaches,leaks, risks, and pitfalls
galore. The social network x inan effort to increase
transparency enabled a featurewhich revealed the primary
location out of which accountsoperate, exposing many active

(53:13):
conservative accounts as beinglocated in The Philippines,
Africa, Macedonia, and others.The Department of Homeland
Security was labeled as beingbased in Israel. The feature was
quickly turned off.
Though they have not made asmuch news this year, the Orca
attacks continue. Just over thelast few months, Orcas have sunk

(53:34):
several yachts mostly off thecoast of Portugal. It must be
rough for the super rich havingto worry about your well-being
knowing that at any time randomcircumstances may have
irreversible effects on yourlife. Perhaps they should
attempt donating to the Orca'ssuper packs. And finally, this
year mister beast announced thathe will branch out to offer both

(53:57):
mobile phone and bankingservices.
The Gen Z Richard Branson hascultivated an image of business
savvy through his YouTube videoswhere for legal purposes, the
following phrase is satire. Hetortures poor people who hope to
be compensated for theirturmoil.

Yes.

That is definitely a guy that I want
watching over my retirementaccount. In this round,
questions about staying safe ina world indifferent to your
suffering. Is everybody ready?

Oh, yeah. Alright.

K. Question number one. In July, astronomer
CEO Andy Byron was caught on theKiss Cam canoodling with the
company's HR chief Kristen Cabotat a Coldplay concert. See what
I did there? Millions of peoplewatched the video.
Millions of high horses weremounted as was a formal
investigation within the companyshortly after which Byron handed

(54:47):
in his resignation. Prior to theincident, Astronomer had
recently relocated itsheadquarters to New York and
raised a $100,000,000 in VCfunding. Which celebrity did
Astronomer hire less than twoweeks following the cold play
cock up as a temporaryspokesperson to do damage
control.

Akhilah, you leaned This is this
is my bread and butter. Right? Excellent. This
is the kind of salacious shit Iget into online. I love it.

Trying to think about scammy celebrities, and
it's kind of easier to think ofones that aren't trying to rip
us off.

It's a real 2025 vibe. K. Question number two.
This year, we saw the biggestcrypto heist in history.
$1,500,000,000 was stolen fromthe Dubai based exchange Bybit.
In order to pull off the heist,hackers needed to secure
approval from multiple highlevel Bybit employee accounts.

(55:47):
Researchers conclude that thethieves must have spent months
preparing, working both sociallyand programmatically. They have
yet to be caught, but securityexperts say these are techniques
often employed by hackersworking for whom?

It would be so awesome if

we didn't come in last.
I know.
I didn't think this was gonna be possible.

Okay. Question number three. In March, Atlantic
editor in chief Jeffrey Goldbergwas mistakenly added to a signal
group chat by national securityadviser Mike Waltz in which JD
Vance, Steven Miller, PeteHegseth, and others were
strategizing about operationrough rider, a campaign of air
and sea strikes against Houthisin Yemen. In the chat, Hegseth

(56:35):
shared details about the strike.John Ratcliffe revealed the name
of an active undercover CIAoperative, and JD Vance engages
in his most favorite pastime,complaining.
In the exchange, what is themassively ironic six word phrase
which Pete Hegseth posted andwhich in a just world would be
carved on his headstone?

Six letter or six word?

Six word. Question number four. A popular
text message scam involves thescammer pretending to be a
famous person, interested forsome reason in a relationship
with the fan and then asking forsome reason for money. Though
they have been named Brad Pittscams after a particularly
egregious case in France,another male star is reportedly

(57:18):
the most impersonated by far. Somuch so that this year, the
Hollywood reporter revealed thathe spends thousands of dollars
of his own money per monthpaying a private service to
report scammers using his nameto social platforms.
Who is that person?

Oh, fuck.

I know who this is.

Tom, that's so random that it must be true.

Yeah.

Think you should put that full answer, JV.

That's not someone I've thought about in
ten years. I think I think it'sgotta be.

Okay. And final question of the round. On
October 19, thieves stole€88,000,000 worth of crown
jewels from the Louvre. Over thecourse of eight minutes, the
thieves used a furniture lift togain access to a second story
balcony where they used a disccutter to gain access through a
window and which they then usedto threaten guards. Laurence

(58:15):
Dakar, the president anddirector of the Louvre said that
while the Louvre's Louvre'ssecurity system was operating as
expected, president the singlecamera in that gallery was not
facing the aforementionedwindow.
In the wake of the incident, a2014 security audit has
resurfaced in which it isrevealed that the Louvre's
surveillance system passwordwas, and until this heist

(58:36):
remained, what? And players,this answer, like all passwords,
is case sensitive.

Amazing. I'm almost a 100% certain, Demi.

Oh my god. Incredible.

Okay. Scoring next. Alright, everybody. Let's
look at some answers for roundthree about safety and security.
Question number one.
Andy Byron was caught on camcanoodling with the HR person.
What temporary spokesperson washired to do damage control for

(59:11):
astronomer? The doghats.

Akila knew this immediately.
I'm 99% certain it was Gwyneth Paltrow. You are a
100%

correct.

Yeah. Yeah. What?
It was like, we gotta hire Coldplay's ex wife.
Yeah. Oh my god. Relationshipexpert.


We had the same thing. Nice. That's not true.

Two nerds too furious.

I'm pissed off because, like, the true answer
is almost funnier, but ChrisMartin himself.

He is

the one.

You were close.

Hey, guys. A little adultery is fine every
once in a while. I used to rule.

Alright. Question number two. The hackers who
stole $1,500,000,000 worth ofcrypto from a Dubai based
exchange Bybit have not beencaught, but security experts say
they very likely work for who?Six Seven Nights at Freddy's.

Ryan Broderick (01:00:06):
We guessed on this one, but gonna go with
North Korea.

Mike Rugnetta (01:00:10):
That guess pays off because it's right. They
love pig butchering skills.That's that's how

we came up

Jamie Loftus (01:00:16):
with them.

Two nerds too furious.

Akilah Hughes (01:00:18):
We said lime wire. Getting their foot in the
door.

Lily Alexandre (01:00:22):
Making big moves.

Close. Close. The dog huts.

We said the government or even Russia. The
government. The government.

To be fair

I think North Korea is an example of the
government.

Georgia Hampton (01:00:38):
Listen. I'll give you a point for duh.
Question

number three, what is the massively ironic six
word phrase that Pete Hegsethposted in that signal chat? Two
nerds too furious.

More like, yeet, Hesketh. I'm out. And then be
like, incredible.

Dog hots?

It'd be crazy if this leak. And

then the, like, wacky tongue out emoji, like

six seven nights at Freddy's.

Adam Bumas (01:01:11):
We are clean on op sec. Wow.

The the actual phrase is we are currently clean
on op sec as one word, but Ithink that this is close enough.

Okay. Yeah. Right? I think that's fine. I
think that's fine.

Alright. Question number four, who is the most
impersonated celebrity online byfar so much so he spends his own
money to try to do somethingabout it? Two nerds too furious.

I had a hunch just because I think this is the
one I saw first when I first sawthis. So my guess

is Orlando Bloom. That's a really good guess, but
it's not right. Okay. Dog Hots?

This is a guess based on, like, celebrity that's
online but not good at it. Sowe're we're we're throwing
Jeremy Renner's name back intothe conversation.

After the year he's had,

I can't be him.

Did you see that somebody called his performance
in Wake Up Deadman the firstever post humus acting
performance?

My god. That's no sense.

Yeah. Six Seven Nights at Freddy's.

We guessed George Clooney.

Also a good guess. The actual answer is
Keanu Reeves.

Oh, sure.

Oh, I see it. Most impersonated by far.

Yeah. Right.

And finally, what was the Louvre's surveillance
system password? DogHots.

I believe that this is right. I think it was
just Louvre.

How case sensitive are we being?

We are being extremely case sensitive.

And that is incorrect.

It had a capital.

It's L. I'm sorry. I'm

sorry. It's alright.

It's alright. It's six seven nights at
Freddy's. We could have

had it all.

Yeah. We lost this one too.

We made we made the same mistake. I

can't believe we're the only ones that got it.
Wow.

It's lonely at the top.

We're seeing baguette with a

three. God.

We do have to be strict with this one, but
that would have had my point ina perfect world.

But we should be strict.

No takers on this one. Alright.

Alright. I've gathered the points. In last
place is six seven.

Oh my god.

With 17 points.

Wow. Shameful.

In second place is the doghouse

Oh my god.

With 19 points.

Well, take it. Respectable.

Which means that in first place is two nerds
too furious with 22 points.

Yay. Woo hoo.

Lelishen Intombzable.

Thank you.

Someone says the full name.

I wasn't brave enough to try.

Folks, that's very exciting, But we do have
one final question to go. That'sright. Oh, boy. For the final
course, our third bonusquestion, this time from Annie
Ruwerda, creator and denizen ofthe depths of Wikipedia. Annie
was kind enough to send us herquestion from the airport.

(01:04:21):
Just like Kurt's bonusquestions, the first person to
answer wins it. Hans, give usthat tape.

Annie Rauwerda (01:04:29):
In 2011, a nine year old named Milo Kress
launched a viral campaign to banplastic straws. He apparently
conducted a phone survey ofstraw manufacturers that led him
to declare that Americans used500,000,000 plastic straws every
single day. The figure has beenwidely disputed. Anyway, Milo

(01:04:49):
Kress is a college graduate nowand in 2025, he got a job at
which leading AI company bestknown for developing Claude?

Anthropic. Correct. Look

at him. You guys won.

Annie Rauwerda (01:04:58):
Wow. Aren't you glad AI safety is in the hands
of someone with a proven historyof pragmatism? The answer for
500,000,000 points is Anthropic.And remember, if you're gonna
consume AI slop, you better suckit through a soggy cardboard
straw.

Wow. I think you just won 500,000,000

points. 500,000,000.

I have to give

it to six seven. So as it stands

This game rules.

With 500,000,017 points, our winners
are six seven nights at Freddy'sunless

Oh, wow.

You don't agree with a point system that offers
such an exorbitant, unbelievableamount of points.

That's

the year we have for you. That is 2025, Mordid
Postly. Congrats to our winners,and thank you to our guests,
Jamie Loftus. Akila Hughes.

Yes. Tom Love.

Natalie Alexander. Ryan Brunner. And
Adam Humes. We're gonna putlinks to all the places that
everybody can find all of yourwork in the show notes. Thank
you to Annie Ruwerda from Depthsof Wikipedia, Kurt White of the
podcast Unraveling, and MorganSung of the podcast Close All
Tabs.
Happy New Year, everybody, andwe'll see you in 2026.

Bye bye. Bye.

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