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April 23, 2025 57 mins

Jason talks with Hannah Pivo about charts, graphs, truth and proof; Georgia talks with Julian Chokkattu about where all the buttons went. And also: DATA CENTERS

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Charts & Curves

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    • https://arthistory.columbia.edu/content/hannah-pivo

Where Have All the Buttons Gone?

Never Post’s producers are Audrey Evans, Georgia Hampton and The Mysterious Dr. Firstname Lastname. Our senior producer is Hans Buetow. Our executive producer is Jason Oberholtzer. The show’s host is Mike Rugnetta.

The aim of constructive uncertainty

lies in the corner between two windows. Such that

we, welcoming the indistinct, unlocks the door

because it likes the sound.

We abstracts the whistled body

of the world. The hazards of this opposition

become clear: the ear listens to what

becomes it, the blood flowing through it.


Excerpt of Among the Living by Gary Sullivan


Never Post is a production of Charts & Leisure, and is distributed by Radiotopia

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