1699 - "Entomophagy" - No Agenda Show

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John C Dvorak (00:00):
It's over the hill. Adam curry. John C Dvorak,

Adam Curry (00:03):
Sunday, September 29 2024 this is your award winning
gibo nation. Mediaassassination, Episode 1699,

Unknown (00:10):
this is no agenda,

Adam Curry (00:13):
celebrating climate week and broadcasting live from
the heart of the Texas newcountry, right here in FEMA
Region. Number six in themorning, everybody. I'm Adam
curry

for Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all
saying, stop advertising andpromoting gambling to the
American public. I'm John CDvorak. It's Craig

Unknown (00:33):
Vaughn and buzzkill in the morning,

Adam Curry (00:36):
I hear it's very bad for people.

Unknown (00:39):
Yeah, I've heard that too.

Adam Curry (00:42):
It's like, it gets people all addicted, and then
they lose all their money. Yeah,

yeah. But Mimi used to. Mimi used to when she
was younger. Was a kid, highschool, I guess she used to live
in Reno. Oh, boy, she's and shesays she shot

Adam Curry (00:59):
a man in Reno just to watch him die, didn't she?
She

remembers these new kids that would come into
the high school, yeah. And thenthey within six months, the one
or two of the parents had a gapimmediately, gambling habit,
sure. And they had to leave thecity, had to move back to
California, Iowa, or whereverthey came from, because they

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were, they just went broke. Butpeople are so pathetic. She lost
a lot of friends. They have somefriends. And the next thing you
know, they had to move out ofthe state because they couldn't
maintain a, you know, a normallife.

Adam Curry (01:35):
Well, I'm glad that you're sharing this with us, so
everybody can check themselves,check yourself, people.

Well, I got, got why I said this is because I'm
watching the football stufftoday, you know, in the morning,
before the game started, andthey have all these different
analysts Come on, and they'reall recommending various bets.
This is on the sports shows,

Adam Curry (01:56):
just doing it in the in the content of the show
itself. Now,

yes, it's gone that bad. They have DraftKings
and all these couple, two,three, these gambling
operations. And they're, it'snot even legal in California,
but still, really. And they're,they're just promoting bets.
They're promoting people tothrow money away. Do

Adam Curry (02:13):
they have prop bets? My favorite prop bet? Yes. Prop
bets, mostly prop, almost

everything's a prop bet.

Adam Curry (02:19):
Hey, are they coming to take you away. What's with
all the sirens?

I don't know. You know, this has been, it's been
like living in New York.

Adam Curry (02:27):
It's because Kamala was in town.

I don't know what it is, but there's a lot of
Sirens of late. Yeah,

Adam Curry (02:34):
you know, Kamala was in town, and it was, it was, it
was quite the spectacle.

Yes, I saw that. I maybe have some clips I do. I
saw I saw the news coverage.It's pathetic.

Unknown (02:45):
Vice President Kamala Harris is here, but her trip
tonight into San Francisco mighthave had an obstacle or two. Our
crews spotted a way low vehiclethat had to be driven away from
the motorcade route by police.Vice President Kamala Harris
makes what could be her finalvisit to California before the
election. A little after 830Friday evening, the VP touched

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down at SFO as her motorcadearrived at the Fairmont San
Francisco an autonomous Waymogot stuck making a turn. The San
Francisco police officer had tomanually drive the vehicle out
of the way.

Adam Curry (03:21):
That's great some way. Mo advertisement there.
That's good, that's good, yeah,and I guess she went to the
border. Was that the California,Mexico border that she went to?

I don't know. I thought it was Arizona. Oh,

Adam Curry (03:36):
I just presumed that it was California. That was

yesterday, I think, and it was like it was a
nothing burger, kind

Adam Curry (03:44):
of you said nothing burger? No, I

did. I appreciate it on purpose. And so she goes
there, and then she startsblaming Trump for all the border
issues.

Adam Curry (03:57):
Yes, this is, well, she I have this short clip where
this is just one of thoseunbelievable things that she
says is great. Earlier

Unknown (04:07):
in the day, Harris made her first trip to the border in
Arizona in years. Harrisexpressed a tougher stance on
illegal immigration. She spokewith local Border Patrol Leaders
as they walked along the wall.There are consequential
issues at stake in thiselection, and one is the
security of our border. TheUnited States is a sovereign

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nation, and I believe we have aduty to set rules at our border
and to enforce them.

Wow. Okay, you know, the funny thing about that
I didn't get that I saw thatclip. I should have grabbed it.
I'm glad you did, because I'mgiving you a clip of the day,
because that is unbelievable.Oh, thank you

Adam Curry (04:50):
very much. Well, Bob, I have clips I think, and
I'll do it.

I don't think so. Well, I mean, this morning, not
to the height of hypocrisy.

Adam Curry (05:00):
Oh no, no, no, not. And by the way, for people who
tune in like, Hey, I listen tothat no agenda show, sounds like
they got an agenda. Yes, we'reagainst idiots. We're against
liars, liars and idiots. Whichformer President Trump takes it
to the next level. This is theclip that was being played all

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morning on the M 5m Joe

Unknown (05:22):
Biden became mentally impaired. Kamala was born that
way.

Adam Curry (05:31):
So of course, none of them played it in context,
which we will do now we will doyes, of course, borders

Unknown (05:37):
are Harris went to the border to lie in the most
shameless and horrible waypossible. At the very site where
she released so much suffering,misery and death, there's no
greater act of disloyalty thanto extinguish the sovereignty of
your own nation, right throughyour border, no matter what lie

(06:01):
she tells, Kamala Harris cannever be forgiven for her
erasing our border, and she mustnever be allowed to become
President of the United States.She must never be allowed that's
over 647,572 migrant criminalswho Kamala set loose to rape,

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pillage, thieve, plunder, andkill the people of the United
States of America, and they'renot going to change. They're
only going to get worse. They'reonly going to get worse. And our
law enforcement system, we havethe greatest in the world, but
our people are told not to dotheir jobs. We don't want you to
do anything. And they come fromtough systems. They're going to

(06:47):
love our system. Kamala ismentally impaired. Every
Republican did what she did,
every Republican did what shedid, that Republican would be
impeached and removed fromoffice, and rightfully so. Joe

(07:10):
Biden became mentally impaired.Kamala was born that way. She
was born that way. I
and if you think about it, onlya mentally disabled person could

(07:32):
have allowed this to happen toour country. Anybody would know
this?

Adam Curry (07:35):
Yeah. So a little more context.

It's a much better clip in context. Oh,

Adam Curry (07:41):
of course it is. It also makes more sense. But
that's not what they do. That'snot what the media does. And by
the way, just because, you know,there's always people who say,
Yo, Trump, he never lies, right?He never lies.

You must have got some nasty email this morning.

Adam Curry (07:56):
That's just the troll room. What are you talking
No, no, I

want to mention something that, since you
brought that into that clip,which is the number of, you
know, the, I guess somebody inice decided to release the
numbers, yeah, of number ofknown criminals that have been
released into the country, thehundreds of 1000s, basically.
And so this morning, I'm youknow, because this is based on a

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note somebody sent me early thismorning, actually, about how
Margaret Hoover is actually kindof a, not really a conservative,
and she's interviewing Hillaryin a new, oh

Adam Curry (08:32):
yeah, I haven't seen it yet, in the frontline,
frontline interview

firing line. She

Adam Curry (08:38):
needs to lay off the lip gloss.

Well, Hoover has always been kind of a bogus,
conservative. She's an old, someold school style. I'm

Adam Curry (08:49):
just saying just as a as a production, television
production. Tip back off, on thelip gloss, Hoover, it looks
creepy. Well,

she's creepy, yeah, so maybe you're
projecting. Okay, okay, creepy,yes, and pretty, but creepy. The
other one in this category, andI should mention, because it's a
pet peeve of mine, is ShannonBream, yes, who always thought
it was the one of the prettiestgirls on Fox ever, and but she's
exactly and once she gets off ofFox, I'm telling you, she's

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going to turn into anotherMargaret Hoover, because I was
watching today, she wasinterviewing a senator from
Georgia, and they brought upthis issue of all these, these
criminals that were releasedinto the country and out of the
blue. And I didn't get a clipbecause it was still done,
finished, but she did say theshe said, Oh, well, you that
doesn't take into account all ofthose that have been

(09:41):
incarcerated, just just what?Just just this comment, huh. And
it was like, why you even? Whatdoes that get to do with
anything? And she's and breamwas the one, it

Adam Curry (09:54):
was on now, one we call the bream Queen bream

was on Gutfeld. And. They were talking about
lawfare and how these five casesagainst Trump all kind of
happened at the same time withall a bunch of people that quit
the Justice Department and goneto these different areas to all
do this all at once, indictmentsof Trump and bremo. No, no,

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there's no way that's a coin.That's just a coincidence.

Adam Curry (10:24):
Really, what is she doing?

She is a she is an Ajahn provocateur. She should
not be out at Fox at all, butshe's got this, you know, nice
smile and you're making like afox girl. That's

Adam Curry (10:36):
why she's at Fox. We know Fox is no good. It's no
better than the rest.

Yes, yes, I know. I'm just trying to, I I'm
normalizing the concept thatshe's, you know, that, yeah, I
agree at at a base levels, thatsucks. Is no good. But anyway, I
just that was a pet peeve ofmine. I got, got out of this,
out of the system.

Adam Curry (10:59):
And unfortunately, when, when Trump went through
that list, he said he forgot tosay, they rob you forgot, and
they forgot. They're eating thedogs. He should just throw that
in from time to time. I missthat.

Have you seen the tick tocks of all these girls
dancing to a to a mix of he'sthey're eating the dogs. They're
eating the cats.

Adam Curry (11:16):
I've, I've seen different mixes of their eating
the cats eating dogs, buthaven't seen the girls dancing
to it, because, John, that's

your Tiktok dipshit dancers.

Adam Curry (11:27):
Is that like the solid gold dancers? The Tiktok
dipshit dancers? Yeah, exactly.It's

a new version.

Adam Curry (11:33):
So right on cue with this news that there's over
600,000 criminals AuroraColorado, I guess they put out a
press release, and I I guessthey haven't, or from what I
understand, they have a newpolice guy. Like, did they throw
out the old guy? And we missedthat, because I think in this
report, it says there's a newpolice chief.

I didn't hear this either. Oh, well,

Adam Curry (11:56):
this so listen to how they downplay the apartment
complex issue. Good

Unknown (12:02):
evening and thank you for joining us for Denver Seven
News at Five on this Friday. I'm
Jessica Porter
and I'm Jason grenauer. First,Aurora officials are threatening
to close two apartment complexesover safety concerns they say
include an uptick in crime anddeterioration.
Denver seven's Veronica Costagot the internal communications
where officials recommend themanagement company

Adam Curry (12:23):
notice they got addresses internal
communications. Yeah, that's aleak internal

Unknown (12:29):
communications where officials recommend the
management company addresses thequote, criminal nuisance or face
the

Adam Curry (12:35):
consequences. It's criminal nuisance. See, it's in
our internal communications.It's not TDA, it's no gang. It's
just criminal nuisance. Twoapartment

Unknown (12:45):
complexes in Aurora with dozens of people living in
them could suffer the same fateas the apartments on 1568 gnome
Street, which was shut downweeks ago. The Edge of Lowry and
200 Columbia apartment complexesare the target of two letters
signed by aurora's new chief ofpolice, Todd Chamberlain,
deeming them quote criminalnuisance properties in violation

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of Aurora city code. The letterssent last Friday point to an
uptick in violent crime in thephysical condition of the
properties as public safetyconcerns saying they could close
as soon as september 30, ifconditions continue,

it's a nuisance. It's just a criminal the way
they downplay it. That wasactually quite good. Well,
that's

Adam Curry (13:25):
what you do with it. When an internal communication
suddenly winds up at the sixo'clock local news on Denver
seven. I mean, yeah, of course,a criminal nuisance, the real
nuisance, which I'm so happy Igot a clip of this, because I've
only been hearing about it andand been seeing the the
headlines. And this is about thelooming strike, which would kick

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off on Tuesday of the long thelong wish of the Longshoremen.
Oh, that one, that's a bad one.And yes, it is quite bad. And I
found on the What's up withshipping podcasts, which, of
course, I subscribe to my modernpodcast, kudos, yes, what's up

(14:10):
with the guy's actually good.There's a couple of these.
There's an ag show like, youknow, what's up with agriculture
this week? This is where you getsome some decent news. And the
what's up with shipping podcast?They didn't have the guy on, but
they had an interview with theunion president the East Gulf

(14:32):
Coast longshoreman union. And sotwo clips. The first one is a
little. The second one's short.The union president explains,
first of all, why they wantthey're going on strike, and
seems like it's stillunresolved. At this hour, it's
still unresolved. So anythingcould change and what that will

(14:53):
mean.

Unknown (14:54):
But today's world, it's changing into the future.
They're not making millions. Nomore. They're making billions,
and they're spending it fast asthey make it. I want a piece of
that for my men, because whenthey made their most money was
during covid, when my men had togo to work on those piers every

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single day, when everybodystayed home and went to work.
Not my men. They died out therewith the virus. We all got sick
with the virus. We kept themgoing from Canada to Maine and
Texas, Great Lakes, Puerto Rico,now the Bahamas, everybody went
to work during covid. Nobodystayed home. Well, I want to be

(15:36):
compensated for that. I'm notasking for the world. They know
what I want. They know what theywant, and if they don't, no,
then I have to go into thestreet, and we have to fight for
what we rightfully deserve.These people today don't know
what a Shrike is, right? When mymen hit the streets from Maine

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to Texas, every single port arelocked down. You know what's
going to happen. I'll tell you.
First week, be all over the newsevery night. Boom, boom. Second
week,
guys who sell cars can't sellcars because the cars ain't
coming in off the ships. Theyget laid off. Third week, malls

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are closing down. They can't getthe goods from China. They can't
sell clothes. They can't dothis. Everything in the United
States comes on a ship.

Adam Curry (16:29):
Yeah, but wait, there's more and a threat at the
end,

Unknown (16:33):
they go out of business. Construction workers
get laid off because thematerials aren't coming in, the
steel is not coming in, thelumber is not coming in. They
lose their job. Everybody,

Adam Curry (16:46):
by the way, does this guy sound like George
Carlin? Or what?

You know, he has a George I was wondering what he
sounded like, and I didn't catchthat, that angle of it. Yes,

Unknown (16:58):
the steel is not going Yeah, coming in, the lumber is
not coming in. They lose theirjob. Everybody's hating the
longshoreman now, because nowthey realize how important our
jobs are. Now I have thepresident screaming at me, I'm
putting a TAF Harley on you. Goahead. Taft Harley means I have
to go back to work for 90 daysafter cooling off period. Do you

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think when I go back to 90 daysThose men are going to go to
work on that pier? It's going tocost the money the company's
money to pay their salaries?Well, they got one from 30 moves
an hour, maybe to eight. They'regoing to be like this. Who's
going to win here in the longrun? You're better off sitting
down and let's get a contract,and let's move on with this
world and today's world, I'llcripple you. I will cripple you.

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And you have no idea what thatmeans,

Adam Curry (17:49):
I will cripple you. Well,

there's a couple of interesting aspects of this.
One is that the longshores didan agreement on the West Coast,
and he doesn't mention that. Butno, he does not. He does not. He
does. He talks about Texas, theMaine, he doesn't talk about the
West Coast. And so I'm just juststay if, if people are looking
for investment opportunities,

Adam Curry (18:11):
not investment advice, I know

just opportunities. I don't, and I
don't know what they would be,but if the if they shut down the
east coast. The West Coast willbe booming with activity. That
means Seattle, Portland,Oakland, Long Beach, all up and
down the coast. The these portswill be filled because everyone
has to be redirected so and so.That means the rail out here and

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everything else is going to bebusier. It's going to be
ridiculous. The fact is, we'regoing to be swamped. Well, you

Adam Curry (18:42):
have those ships sitting out at at sea again, of
course, because they won't beable to handle that's

what will end up happening. The whole Bay will be
filled with a bunch of boats,and

Adam Curry (18:51):
prices will have to go up because of that. Also just
the now

nightmarish at this at one hand, on the other
hand, it's going to be a boom,at least locally, on, you know,
the West Coast. Well, bully foryou. Well, I'm, I'm not looking
forward to it. The traffic's badenough. Yeah, no kidding,
because that means the truckswill be loading and, you know,
me, the place, just the freewayswill be filled with trucks

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getting this stuff as far eastas it can, even though you once
it gets to Denver, it's going todo. I mean, it's just not
possible to for the West Coastto supply the entire country.
It's not possible. And the

Adam Curry (19:30):
good news is Washington, DC will be affected
by this, so that will, that willget their attention. Now. Taft
Hartley, Taft Hartley, I think,is what it is that's a provision
that the the president can callcall upon to force the union, I

have to review that again. I forgot what, how
they could.

Adam Curry (19:48):
Well, he made it sound like, okay, that means we
have to go back to work for9090, days, and we'll be
working. Yeah,

unions call it, but this,

Adam Curry (19:58):
and he makes an incredible. Valid point, like,
oh, we had to work. We wereessential workers during Covic.
As he said, Covic, you meancovid? This guy was authentic,
man. He's got tats. He's, youknow, he's got the big chain
Sherman, their bicycle chainaround his neck. Yeah, they're
not good on him. We need alittle bit of crippling here.

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Wake people? Well, no, we

don't wake people up.

Adam Curry (20:25):
Get them, get them. Get them. Get them. He's

right. He did say one thing in there that I
thought was very noteworthy,which was, nobody knows what a
real strike is like in ourcurrent in our current
environment. The millennialsdon't know what it's like. The
disease. Don't know what it'slike. Most of the you know, the
the Gen X Don't, don't, havenever experienced a real strike.

(20:49):
And now whether there's going tobe one or not, is another issue.
Well, they

Unknown (20:53):
got it two days. Yeah, we'll see.

Adam Curry (20:56):
Yeah. I don't know exactly what

the real strikes, a real strike, a real bad thing.

Adam Curry (21:02):
Yeah, what happened to Boeing? Did that get resolved
after their final and bestprice?

I have no idea what's going on there. I didn't,
well, I didn't follow it closeenough. So I don't know what's
going on, but it's nothing likewhat this. This is a big deal.
The Boeing thing is a, you know,just the one company. No

Adam Curry (21:19):
talks broke off without progress. So no, yeah,
so

they can stagger along. That's not going to
affect the economy much.

Adam Curry (21:28):
Well, it's probably good because, well, you heard
the latest about Boeing.

Unknown (21:33):
No this morning, another black eye for Boeing.
Black Eye for Boeing, the NTSBissuing an urgent safety warning
over a key part in some of itsembattled 737 Max jets, just the
latest blow to one of theworld's biggest aviation
companies, which has faced aseries of setbacks this year,
including an ongoing strike andthat door plug blowout in

(21:55):
January. The new issue regardsthe rudder control system on
some 737 Max and ng aircraftfirst discovered in February
when united pilots reportedrudder pedals on their max eight
became stuck in neutral. Let
me just tell you something.

Adam Curry (22:14):
The rudder pedals are pretty important for landing
in particular, also fortakeoffs. You know, in flight
also, but you really can't landwith a crosswind if you don't
have a rudder pedal. It's goingto be very difficult, as

Unknown (22:29):
they landed at Newark International in that incident,
the plane landed safely.
The rudder is that vertical finon the tail of the airplane that
pilots use sometimes, wheneverthey need to counter a stiff
crosswind, or if there's anengine failure. It's not used
all the time, but it's there fora reason, and that's for

(22:49):
potential emergencies ormaneuvering ability.

Adam Curry (22:53):
It's that's a little disingenuous. You need the
rudder. It's just you need oryou can't. The flying the
aircraft without a rudder is nogood.

Unknown (23:00):
NTSB investigators say testing determined a sealed
bearing was incorrectlyassembled during production, and
that Collins aerospace, whichmanufactures that part, notified
Boeing that more than 350 hadbeen delivered to Boeing Since
2017 and were affected. In astatement, Boeing says last
month it informed affected 737,operators, airlines, of the

(23:24):
potential problem, addingthey're working with a supplier
to address it. United Airlinesis the only US carrier that had
the component in its planes andsays they've already been
replaced. No

Adam Curry (23:36):
so it's already done. The no panic, just united.
They had dudes and dressesreplace the parts. It's all good
to fix it. They fixed it. It'sall good. Their CEO dude in a
dress. Come on. It's we wrappedup climate week, and you and I

(24:00):
didn't even notice, yeah, wekind of missed it. I'm sad.
There was so much else going on,and NPR was all over it. They
had a climate solutions week. Iswhat they had on the on the air.

I was listening to it all along. I never heard
in

Adam Curry (24:16):
here. Oh, well, it was. It was mainly centered in
New York. Is where that was theheadquarters of climate week.
And just you know, NPR has bigproblems with their podcast
division. It's essentiallyclosing.

But should they got no good podcasting, and they
keep promoting them and ruiningthe normal programming.

Adam Curry (24:37):
Well, I got the credits from the shortwave
episode. Is called shortwave,which is the NPR podcast, and
then this is the ClimateSolutions edition of shortwave.
Maybe if we listen to thecredits, we can understand why
they're going out of business.This

Unknown (24:53):
episode was produced by Hannah chin and edited by our
showrunner, Rebecca RamirezTyler Jones. Checked the facts.
Yes, the audio engineer wasJames Willetts. Beth Donovan is
our senior director, and ColinCampbell is our senior vice
president of podcastingstrategy.
I'm Regina Barber, thanks forlistening to show wave.

Adam Curry (25:11):
We need a vice president of podcasting
strategies on this show, and ashowrunner. I want a showrunner,
a showrunner. Dana Brunettishould be our show runner. He
would be good at being our show

he considered, he probably considers that lousy
job. Oh, it's

Adam Curry (25:29):
the well, he was a show runner, right? Wasn't he
the showrunner

for a house of cards? No, I

Adam Curry (25:35):
think he was the showrunner. I think he was,
yeah, it's a showrunner. IsYou're the boss. I mean, you're,
you're making it happen, and youhave to take the licking, and
you have to go show

runner for people out there, they never give them
credit. The credit is onaccording to they have to, you
know, there's all these rulesnowadays that the Producers
Guild and the directors go, theyhave these rules about how you
show credits. You know, they sayused to be in the automation.
They show all the credits at thebeginning of a movie. Now
they're at the end. The trick tofinding the show runner of a

(26:07):
show is the last executiveproducer listed before the
writer, right? So they haveexecutive producer, producer
cobras, blah, blah, blah, allthese. Then there's executive
producer, and then writer, theone with the guy who comes up
before writer is the currentlythe executive, or is the

(26:30):
showrunner for the show, whichis, I don't know why, they just
don't call him a showrunner, butthey won't do it on credits

Adam Curry (26:38):
because it sounds demeaning, which

it does sound. It sounds pretty lame. That's

Adam Curry (26:43):
the job. We have to bend over for the network.

They really should be called boss,

Adam Curry (26:48):
and they have to go back to the productions guys,
the network doesn't like it.Darren O'Neill says he'll be our
showrunner, which is fine by me.He is already. He's right. Rock
and roll show runner. Um,anyway, but do you want to do a
little bit of fun climate stuff?Just for

for young I only have the eating bugs part of the
whole thing. If you want to doclimate stuff, I don't really
have anything on climate. What

Adam Curry (27:15):
is, what is the eating bug stuff? Well, there's

a podcast, yeah, another

Adam Curry (27:21):
podcast today's podcast you

Unknown (27:24):
don't do.

And this is called the can I bug you?
Podcast, are they and like all,are they pro bug? They're pro
eating bugs. And this is like apodcast about eating bugs, and
so they and it's one of theproblem. You know, I most
podcasts are not very good. No,I don't know if people have

(27:51):
noticed, but they're lame.People don't really feel
comfortable talking into a mic.It's just a million things. It's
just the timing is bad. Theythey don't get then they added
it to make it worse, you can'tedit to make timing work, that's
for sure. I'm

Adam Curry (28:06):
gonna take out all of the pauses and the ums and
it'll sound great. Yeah.

So we have this podcast. Hello,

Unknown (28:16):
listeners. Are you hungry? Hey, this
looks like a good spot to rustleup some grub. Ew, what's that?
Hey, grub, what's it look like?Ew, gross. Tastes like chicken,
slimy yet satisfying bugs.
Is food. That's what we're hereto talk about. Hold

Adam Curry (28:36):
on. So they have this reasonably well edited
opening montage, you know, islike, which make just come from
cartoons. As far as I can tell,sounds like a cartoon, yeah. And
then they go into the podcast,and it's like this big room, and
you hear the room andeverything. This is very painful

(28:57):
to listen to for me,

Unknown (28:59):
slimy, unsatisfying.

Adam Curry (29:02):
Oh, Lion King, yes, that's where it's from.

Unknown (29:04):
Exist food. That's what we're here to talk about on
today's episode of Can I bug youour every other weekly deep dive
into the wide, weird world ofinsight. It's a deep

Adam Curry (29:12):
dive. You sure? It's not AI this podcast,

Unknown (29:16):
pretty sure.
I'm UC Riverside spokeswoman,Jules Bernstein. I'm here with
my co host, Doug yannicka, whois the senior scientist at UC
Riverside's entomology researchMuseum. Hey, Doug. Hello. Hey
Doug. And our special guesttoday is Erin Wilson Rankin, a
professor of entomology here atUCR. She studies the ecology of
arthropod communities andteaches a course for non majors

(29:38):
called the natural history ofinsects, which introduces the
subject of entomophagy, the ideaof intentionally uses using
insects as food. Oh, hold

Adam Curry (29:48):
on. Entima Fiji, is that what she said, this is a
good term, entomophasia.

I think F,

Unknown (29:54):
A, E, G, E, P,

H. I think there's a P H in there.

Unknown (29:59):
P. Beige because, of course, it's different than
people unintentionally consuminginsects in their food, which
they most certainly do. Hey,Aaron, Hi. Do you happen to have
any information about how manyinsects are allowed in food
products per the US Food andDrug Administration?
I know for a couple things thatare, you know, particularly
important to me, chocolate, butyou can have, it's allowable to

(30:22):
have, you know, 5060, pieces ofinsect in 100 grams of
chocolate. Oh,

Adam Curry (30:28):
and they're doing this too. There, there are bugs
in everything. Now you just golook at the supermarket. It has
different names, but there's bugbugs, bug dust, bug SAP, all
kinds of bug stuff.

Unknown (30:39):
Um, you can have a lot of aphids. 2500 aphids per 10
grams of hops. So if you're abeer drinker, there might be
some extra sweetness coming fromthe insects. Does that add extra
protein? Possibly, there's suchsmall amounts that I don't know
if it's going to bestatistically significant, and
it probably gets filtered out. Imean, there's particulate

(31:01):
matter.
Well, some people find thisgross, but others think insects
are the food of the future. Getinto today, food

Adam Curry (31:13):
of the future. Sorry, entomaji, e, n, t, O, M,
O, P, H, A, G, u, y, also to bepronounced as mtimo, faggy,
depends on where you come from.Practice of eating insects.
Alternative term is insectivoryto Yes, that's what I would use,

(31:35):
insectivory, yes, Hmm. Well,what you just heard is, is, is
really part of the problem. Isthe FDA, you know, without much
fanfare, has approved all ofthese entomophagy project
products that go into food,certain flower, cricket flower,

(31:58):
being the flower, yeah, what'sthe what's the term for cricket
flower again? Because it hasdifferent

Unknown (32:04):
word I don't remember. Yeah, yeah, let

Adam Curry (32:06):
me just cricket flower is, can't find it now,
food. Thank you. Troll room,just call it food. Cricket
flowers.

You think flour?

Adam Curry (32:26):
There it is. Thank you. Cuisson, a cheetah powder,
A, C, H, E, T, A, A cheetahpowder. Yeah,

that's better, probably term than flour. Flour,
F, l, o, u, r, uh, indicates tome, something that's from
grinding some sort of a plantproduct. No,

Adam Curry (32:46):
you're grinding a cricket, like

cricket, it's like, is there beef flour? Is
there dog flour? I mean, nodoubt the Haitians know that.

Adam Curry (32:56):
No doubt so. But yeah, but that's all allowed by
the FDA, so people just put itin there, and it's part of the
climate change narrative. Ithink for a moment, since we
have a guest on this MSNBC showwho is known to the show for
many years and comes from thisperiod, we need to open it up to
the

Unknown (33:16):
gate, to the gate to the climate gate. So

Adam Curry (33:24):
yes, the climate gate jingle started for us. I'm
going to say 2009

it was right during climate gate. So you'd
have to figure out when that was

Adam Curry (33:34):
yes. Well, that's why it's a jingle, and it was
Michael Mann. Was the guy whowas falsifying his his notes was
chain Well, modifying them

because it didn't make, I think falsifying is a
better word, can I? Yeah,

Adam Curry (33:51):
that's probably correct. Was changing his, his
notes and his formula, and itwas found out. It was a big
scandal. It

was a it was a hack

Adam Curry (34:05):
email, yes, oh, it was a glitch, a glitch and a
hack. And, yeah, so it was ahack that the emails came out
and and, of course, they deniedit was a scandal. It was a big
scandal. We covered it quiteextensively, being it.io you can
hear all of it. So Michael Mannshows up with Katie tour on
MSNBC for climate week with,well, can you guess who he's

(34:28):
with? I mean, if you haveMichael Mann, one of the premier
climate science Scientologists,climatologists of our time, and
of the IPCC, the Internationalplanetary Panel on Climate
Change. Who would he show upwith for a bit of color in the
commentary?

I can think of a number of people, but
unfortunately, I can't getFrancis Collins out of my mind
since I saw him the other daybullshitting about vaccines. No,
it's not Francis. It's betterthan a hand. Is the only the guy
it should get, but you don't seehim anymore. No, no. Hansen is
the guy who came up with thefirst no hockey stick.

Adam Curry (35:09):
I'm disappointed you didn't guess

Unknown (35:11):
Helene is breaking records in the southeast, as the
UN is holding its climate weekhere in New York, where
scientists and world leadershave met to discuss concerns
about bigger and strongerstorms, along with temperature
changes across the globe Joiningus now, science educator and the
Planetary Society CEO, Bill Nye,you know well,

you should have said a big phony. We all know
very well. Science edu is not asign who's not a climatologist
in any ways, electrical engineeror something,

Adam Curry (35:42):
but he has a new outfit.

Unknown (35:44):
Listen to this outfitter and the Planetary
Society. CEO, Bill PlanetarySociety,

Adam Curry (35:49):
bro, we need one of those nine. You

Unknown (35:52):
know now and University of Pennsylvania, presidential,
Distinguished Professor of Earthand Environmental Science and
author of our fragile moment,how lessons from Earth's past
can help us survive the climatecrisis and a whole lot of other
books. Michael, Mann gentlemen'sreally great to have you. Oh,
it's

Adam Curry (36:08):
great to have you. Well, let's,

Unknown (36:11):
let's have Michael stop.

I'm just going to, I'm going to do a little
mind reading here. I'm a certainthat Katie tour brings up the
climate gate issues and MichaelMann being a big phony by by
fudging numbers, and he sheconfronts him like a good
journalist would. Right your

Adam Curry (36:32):
mind, reading is off the charts, so far off that it's
not on the chart.

Unknown (36:37):
You were nodding your head as Melissa was talking.
Marissa was talking about rapidintensification,
yeah, something we talk a lotabout these days. You know,
these storms intensify now.

Adam Curry (36:48):
This is the extreme. What remember back in the
climate gate days it was globalwarming. This is before it
became climate change, becausethe warming was provably not
happening. Then it was, weatheris not climate, but now extreme
weather events is climate, yes,far

Unknown (37:06):
more rapidly than they used to. And there's basic
underlying science thatpredicted that decades ago. I'm
sorry.

I have to No, no, that's fine, doesn't that's
fine, that's fine. I can'temphasize enough, since you
brought it up, it just remindedme. I can't emphasize enough,
since we've been doing this thislong enough, almost 17 years,
yeah, the idea that weatherisn't climate was extreme was
punctuated and pounded on thetable to no end. Weather is not

(37:38):
climate. Weather is not climate.That's all they talked about.
Now they changed it. Let

Adam Curry (37:45):
me see if I have a weather is not climate. We have
a lot of those. What is this?

Unknown (37:52):
In India, a severe heat wave has shattered the national
benchmark for the hottest day onrecord, as the temperature in
the city of halodi topped astaggering 123 degrees
Fahrenheit. Several 100 peoplehave died so far from the
extreme temperatures acrossIndia, increasingly Deadly Heat
waves have been linked toclimate change. That

Adam Curry (38:12):
was mistitled. I should look for them honestly. I
should go back and look forthem. But they Yes. They kept on
saying weather is pounded thetable over it. Yes, weather is
not climate. Weather is and that

was because it was they were they brought some
stuff up during the winter.Look, it's freezing out. What
are you talking about? Weather's

Adam Curry (38:31):
not climate. All right, back to back to Michael
Mann, with the rapidintensification

Unknown (38:36):
basic underlying science that predicted that
decades ago. You warm up theoceans, there's more energy,
more evaporation of moisturefrom the ocean that provides the
energy to intensify thesestorms. They intensify faster,
and we are seeing that. And thethreat is, you know, as you
heard here, you have less timeto prepare, because something
that was just a WEAK tropicalstorm is a major, a major

(38:58):
hurricane, within a matter of 24hours, they had a lot

of time that's never happened before.

Adam Curry (39:03):
It's, it's rapid intensification. And, by the
way,

did, oh, I got, I got it. I got this time. I can
do it. Okay, she's gonna askabout, you know, that they had
a, they had no major hurricanesin 2023 How do you account for
that?

Adam Curry (39:18):
No, the next she's now going to move to Bill Nye.
She's going to move to Bill Nye.So we need Bill Nye to put in
some scientific evidence, somescientific analogy, a metaphor,
something that we canunderstand.

Unknown (39:30):
I keep hearing people say, you know, climate
scientists go out and they say,it's the end of the world. The
climate change is here. Disasteris coming, but everything's been
fine. And then I look at them,and I said, What about that
hurricane or what about thatfire? There are this country
that are not fine. It's nothappening. You know, it's not,
you know, the end of the world,like in a science fiction movie

(39:52):
at the moment, but there arereal life effects around people
that are being displaced andkilled. It's coming. People

Adam Curry (39:57):
are being killed by

Unknown (39:58):
climate. Well. It's also when your power goes out,
that's when the end of the worldgets us in the developed world,
and people who live in that areanow have just not just rainwater
flooding, but flooding from theocean, which is salty, which
rusts your car, and then youcan't get insurance.

Adam Curry (40:22):
Bill. Nye comes in with some with a factoid we all
need it because your How aboutyour car blowing up in the
garage because it's an electricvehicle? How about that? Bill
didn't notice that one.Obviously, these two guys are
here for a reason.

Unknown (40:38):
You had a climate week this week. Any consensus
happening? We're just
one. We're just oneinternational meeting from
solving from solving it, yes.Oh, just one more. No,
everybody. Oh, it's humor.People say to me, Bill Nye
Science Guy, Bill Nye, people

Adam Curry (40:54):
come up to me, Hey, Bill Nye Science Guy, imagine
that. People come up to me.Said, Adam curry podfather, oh,
wait, some people do that.People say

Unknown (41:03):
to me, Bill, my science guy, what can I do about climate
change? What can I do aboutclimate change? We'll tell you
what people's vote right now. Wehear so much about the undecided
voters, and this is I'm being as
diplomatic, generous,magnanimous. How can
you not tell the differencepeople? One side is in support

(41:25):
of doing something about thesemassive problems associated with
climate change. The other sideis pretending it's not
happening. And you guys, we allwant a villain, and so on. But
it really has been the fossilfuel industry that's worked
really hard to suppress thescience.

Adam Curry (41:42):
Suppress the science. You okay, maybe you
should just explain what youreally want the people to hear.
Bill Nye science guy. A

Unknown (41:52):
lot of people, when they hear that, though they
think, God, you guys are beingYou're being too crazy, you're
being too strict, too harsh. Ilike my way of life, okay, I
like my car ordering things onAmazon. I like all the plastic,
yes, but that's the thing. Imean, it is so ingrained in our
life, and what they're lookingfor is for science to come up

(42:15):
with a way to solve this. Weclap up.

Adam Curry (42:17):
Do we have a scientific solution? John is his
solution to the science I am

befuddled by this whole thing. Well, he's she's a
she is useless, and he's anidiot. I mean, I don't get it.
Why would they even put this onthe air? Oh,

Adam Curry (42:35):
the reason is coming now, on

Unknown (42:37):
our side of it, we claim that we have enough energy
to take care of everything rightnow, if we just could apply it.
And so the longest journeybegins with about a single step.
We will phase out fossil fueluse, and they will we will phase
in renewable energy, but justwhen it comes november 5,
everybody, you've got to votefor the Democrats, doing my best

(43:01):
here. For many years, I've beenthe head of a of the
organization that we work veryhard to be political, but not
partisan in space exploration.Be that as it may right now the
choice is clear. So you caneverybody out there. You can
hate me, you can hate him, youcan hate everything. But when it
comes to doing something aboutclimate change, you've got to

(43:23):
vote for Harris walls, and

that's what this is, where you expected Clip of
the Day. No, no, no. I thoughtthe Trump, I'm telling you this
is that was the most that thatis not acceptable. NBC should
be. NBC is bad enough. This isthat head of Comcast. Again, I
keep bringing him up. It's histhis guy really that Comcast

(43:49):
that should get rid of NBCbecause they're ruining the
country. I

Adam Curry (43:54):
think, you know, we need a best of, Best of Show in
the in the next couple ofmonths. I think you should do an
interview with Bill Nye scienceguy. I bet you can do it. I bet
if you called up and say, Hey,I'm I'm a podcast you'd be like,
Oh, you're a podcaster. Say,yeah. Like, probably wouldn't

do the due diligence he needs no to listen
to the show, because once he didthat, he would never agree to an
interview. Do

Adam Curry (44:16):
you think he would? He would walk away while you
were interviewing him? No,

he wouldn't agree to it. Oh, well, that's
shameless.

Adam Curry (44:27):
Yeah, of course, we are thinking of all of our
producers on the East Coast,south southeast, North Carolina.

You can say all you want. They're not listening
well, you know,

Adam Curry (44:41):
some still have battery power, but this was a
very odd storm. It was, youknow, they said, I mean, I got
so I told you that the reportingwas strange. The reporting was
off kilter, like it was, it wasa lot of water, and it destroyed
dams. But cat four,

that's, yeah. Didn't go, it looks like it
didn't go, didn't

Adam Curry (45:03):
go, but there's a lot of destruction. But it
wasn't that the winds weren'twhat anyone predicted. The winds
were much, much calmer. Just alot of water. And it was just
water, just a lot of water.Yeah, a lot of water. So we are
thinking of you producers lot ofwater.

And there was, I thought I was looking over my
clipless I thought I had thisclip. I know I had it. I guess I
didn't produce it. I'm not surewhat happened. But there was a
great clip somebody sent mefrom, from Florida, one of the
islands where some Tesla,

Adam Curry (45:35):
yeah, was caught far was blowing up in the garage. It
blew up in

the garage and burnt down what looked to be a
castle. I mean, this house wasjust as gorgeous because it was
left a couple outer walls,because the house burned to the
ground. And then the reporting,local reporting, talked about
how all these electric scooterswere going up boom, blowing up
left and right, and there wasTesla's blowing up the salt

(46:00):
water. This is very dangerous.

Adam Curry (46:04):
The Iron Oh, the irony of trying to save the
climate with your EV and itcatching on fire because of
burning the place, burning theplace down, I'd like so I have a
couple of things I want to shareas a mini presentation, but I
share, you're gonna share. I'mgonna share a secret, only if we
hold hands. But I what happenedwith Nasrallah? I think is

(46:31):
something we have. We need youto do a deep dive.

I have a lot of Nasrallah clips, so that's why
I'd like you to start follow up.No, no. I'd

Adam Curry (46:37):
like you to start it off. I'd like you to, like you
to get it all out of yoursystem, and then we'll do some
analysis, because this was, Ithink, much bigger than people
realize.

I find it distressing to be honest about
it. I have a series of clipshere from the Hezbollah leader,
Hezbollah,

Adam Curry (47:00):
Hezbollah, let's just

start with them. NPR stuff. This is two clips
from NPR

Unknown (47:08):
to many. Nasrallah is the leader of a terrorist
organization, but others in theMiddle East, as we just heard,
he's viewed as a hero. NPR, Alshaachi is

this? Is this his leader? One? Yes, it is. You
don't want to stop that clip?No, it has to come later. I'm
sorry. Okay, what we want is HEZsummary, good one. NPR,
Hezbollah

Unknown (47:28):
has vowed to retaliate after an Israeli airstrike
killed Hassan Nasrallah, theleader of the Iranian backed
militant group Hezbollah inLebanon. The question of what's
next for the two countrieshinges on the war in Gaza and
Piers Jaina RAF in Beirut hasmore on what it would take to
get to a ceasefire. Hezbollahitself is really unwilling to

(47:50):
accept a ceasefire. It madeclear when it announced the
death of Nasrallah that it wouldcontinue fighting Israel. And
Nasrallah has always made clearthat there won't be a cease fire
here, unless there's a ceasefire in Gaza. But N piers,
Daniel estrang, who's in Israel,says Gaza cease fire talks are
stalled.
The question is, Will Iranbacked militias throughout the

(48:13):
region fire at Israel, whetherthat's the Houthis in Yemen,
whether that's Shia militias inIraq, Israel is preparing for
that potential
escalation. Okay,

did you get a note from one of our Mohammed?
Yes, Mohammed, I'm going to

Adam Curry (48:32):
talk about that in my presentation,

because I thought that was interesting. Let's go
to summary too.

Unknown (48:38):
The Assassination Friday was an escalation of
Israel's campaign againstHezbollah in a year long
conflict, Hezbollah startedfiring on Israel just after
Hamas attacked southern IsraelOctober 7, leaving around 1200
dead and kidnapping around 250relatives of the remaining
hostages have called on IsraeliPrime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu to ease up Onhostilities until the hostages

(49:00):
are released. Meanwhile,President Biden calls nas ralas
death a measure of justice andpierce devaram reports
in a statement, Biden saidNasrallah and Hezbollah have
been responsible for killinghundreds of Americans as well as
Israeli and Lebanese civilians.Biden said the US is goal is to
de escalate tensions in theMiddle East through diplomatic

(49:20):
means, but ceasefirenegotiations between Israel and
Hamas have been held up formonths, and there is also no
agreement to stop the fightingon the Israel Lebanon border,
the president said he's alsodirected the Pentagon to enhance
the posture of US forces in theMiddle East to deter a broader
regional war. Vice PresidentHarris released a statement too,
saying Nasrallah had, quote,American blood on his hands.

This is the guy we have to remember who blew up
the Marine barracks, killing 200during the Reagan
administration. Well, he's

Adam Curry (49:52):
been around for 30 years, right? Yeah, he's

been around forever, and it's like they
can't, they couldn't get rid ofhim. The Israelis finally got
fed up, I guess. Yeah. Becausethey used bunker busters to blow
up that area. Yeah,

Adam Curry (50:04):
they, they got him like they had an eight second
window and done.

But so, but this guy is, you know, he's not a
he's a bad guy to us and theIsraelis and everybody who's on
that side of the argument, buthe's a good guy. In fact, I get
back and forth with some buddybitching at us because we're
playing. I'm gonna

Adam Curry (50:27):
talk about that too. This. That's actually what set
me on down the road, down adifferent path. Well,

I do want to mention that 1701 which is a UN
Secretary Security CouncilResolution, 1701 which required
the Hezbollah to move north, andfor the Israelis to leave
Lebanon in 2006 it was ignoredby Hezbollah. I'm gonna, I'm
gonna talk about news alsoignored by this guy who kept

(50:53):
writing us notes. I'm gonna readsome of I'm gonna read that in a
moment. But okay, well, I'm justsetting this up. Yes. So let's
listen to the couple of thingsabout this guy. And if anybody
thinks that that he wasn't lovedby the by the Lebanese, they're
wrong. As far as I'm concerned.You could maybe have something

(51:15):
to be

Adam Curry (51:15):
contradictory. I do have contradictory stuff. Yeah,

I will play before I get to the leader one.
Well, let's go with his leader.Let's play that clip.

Unknown (51:26):
Nasrallah appeared on television for the last time on
September 19, denouncing theIsraeli pager operation. Cave.
Retribution will come. He saidit's manner, size, how and where
that we will keep to ourselves.The White House said today that
nasrallahs death was a quotemeasure of justice for many

(51:47):
victims. Nasrallah is survivedby his wife and four children.
He was 64 hadil al shaachi, NPRnews,

all right, he's been he's been doing this for a
long time, if he was only 54 andthen one more ancillary clip I
just play this has love, hateclip, and then we can play the
two clips about him. So

Unknown (52:07):
there was just this mix of emotions. There was mourning,
but there was more than that.People here were confused. This
is uncharted territory. Peopleon the streets are also scared.
They understand the gravity ofthe moment, and they also
understand that no one can quitepredict just what comes after
this. Tell
us. Tell us more aboutNasrallah. What he represented

(52:29):
in the region. He's
a complicated figure. Israel inthe US consider him a terrorist
who led deadly attacks againstAmericans as well as Israelis,
but to many here in Lebanon andacross the Middle East, he's a
hero. After Israel invadedsouthern Lebanon in the 80s,
Nasrallah led an armedresistance that eventually led
to an Israeli withdrawal. And ofcourse, on the Palestinian

(52:50):
issue, he became the mostvisible and perhaps the most
prominent anti Israeli figure inthe world. So for more than
three decades, not only was hethe top commander of Hezbollah,
but he was also a religiousleader and a politician.
So the big questionator, whathappens next?
I mean, there will be a funeral,obviously, but I think there's
just a lot more questions thananswers. I mean, how will
Hezbollah retaliate for hisdeath? And what about Iran? Who

(53:13):
is Hezbollah's benefactor? Howdid they react? And then, of
course, Israel, starting withthe pager attacks last week,
Israel has systematicallydegraded Hezbollah leadership,
and is that enough, or doesIsrael go further, launching a
ground invasion? We don't haveclear answers to any of those
questions right now. What

Adam Curry (53:31):
was this outlet

who did this particular report? The NPR? Oh,
that's

Adam Curry (53:35):
NPR as well.

Yeah, most of this is NPR. So we're going to
go, I mean, I can't trust thesame clips from PBS news hour,
but NPR seems to have the most,and I will say this, NPR, I
think, was very sympathetic toNasrallah. I think they were
totally they played it like, oh,you know, this guy was the

Adam Curry (54:00):
greatest 64 his his four children, his wife, 54

I think he's 54 this is 64 is what I heard.
Okay, yeah, it

Adam Curry (54:08):
would make more sense.

Family and family. Man, yeah, it

Adam Curry (54:12):
was a good family. Man,

so here we go with the last two clips. And
this is the HEZ leader one

Unknown (54:18):
and two to many. Nasralla is the leader of a
terrorist organization, butothers in the Middle East, as we
just heard, he's viewed as ahero and fierce. Hadil al
shaachi takes a closer look atwho he was.

Adam Curry (54:34):
That's some Hero talk right there in

Unknown (54:36):
a fiery speech at a podium in Lebanon, you heard,

I want you to keep that him yelling and
screaming clip in mind with whatyou're about to hear

Unknown (54:49):
in a fiery speech at a podium in Lebanon in 2000 Hassan
Nasrallah compares Israel'smilitary capability to a weak
spiderweb.
Wallahi.
Women. It
was in this year that the longtime Hezbollah leader became an
icon. He had just led hismilitia in a war that pushed
Israeli troops out of southernLebanon, ending an 18 year

(55:11):
occupation. Nasrallah was bornto an impoverished Shiite family
in the north of Lebanon beforeco founding Hezbollah. Hezbollah
learned the ropes in the Emilmovement, a Shiite political and
paramilitary group. He waschosen to be Hezbollah's leader
two days after his head AbbasMoussaoui was killed by the
Israeli military in 1992 hebecame famous for his thick

(55:32):
beard, black turban, cloak andcharisma, charisma, speaking
with a slight lisp, has salvaappealed to regular Arabs. Lisp.

Adam Curry (55:41):
He spoke with lis. I

Unknown (55:42):
didn't hear that.

Adam Curry (55:44):
I didn't catch the lisp.

Well, it's hard, I guess. Yes, it was Arabic,
Arabic lisp. It's,

Adam Curry (55:51):
I don't know what that fed dies.

Okay. So she goes on, let's go to part that's the
end of that. I think, yes, thatis yes, yeah, go to part two.

Unknown (56:01):
Mohammed bezi is the director of the Center for Near
Eastern Studies at New YorkUniversity. He
was speaking as if he wassitting with people in a cafe.
He had this,
okay, stop it.

Adam Curry (56:13):
Speaking to people like he was in a cafe. What

kind of Cafe is that? It's a loud one,
adversity.

Unknown (56:20):
He was speaking as if he was sitting with people in a
cafe. He had this accessiblestyle that resonated with
people. Was
a hero to many Arabs, illusionwith their own leaders. His son,
Hedi, was killed fighting theoccupying Israeli army in 1997
in extreme contrast to most ofthe other political leaders in
Lebanon, whose children would besent to Switzerland, to

(56:42):
universities, and so thatsolidified that he was making
the same kinds of sacrificesthat he was asking other
people's children to make. For
much of the last two decades,Nasrallah was only ever seen on
television and never in publicfor fear of assassination
attempts when Nasrallah spokethe region, and begrudgingly,
the Israeli securityestablishment had to stop and

(57:03):
listen to the message he wasabout to convey, the
political priorities, themilitary priorities of
Hezbollah. There was also asense that Nasrallah meant what
he said.
For the Israelis, Nasrallah wasa terrorist who kept their
northern borders unendinglythreatened. He was involved in
the bombing of the US Marinebarracks in Lebanon that killed
over 200 US servicemen in theearly 80s, also backed Syrian

(57:27):
President Bashar Al Assad duringthe brutal 2011 civil war that
killed 1000s of Sunni Muslims.He's
also going to be remembered asas sectarian leader, and people
aren't going to forget that. Soit'll be this dual legacy.
Hezbollah
and Israel began trading firethe day after the Hamas led
attacks on Israel on October 7,hostilities intensified last
week when 1000s of pagers andwalkie talkies used by Hezbollah

(57:50):
members exploded around Lebanon.Lebanese health officials said
the explosions killed 39 people.
Okay,

Adam Curry (57:59):
that's, those are some good backgrounders. So

I think, by the way, this guy, the Sunnis, can't
possibly like this character.He's killed Sunni Muslims. He
killed American soldiers. Idon't know why. Reagan actually
backed off then and vacated thearea once that bombing took
place. He was a bad guy, but,but, okay, NPR plays him up as a

(58:22):
family man and and he tooksacrifice by not sending his kid
to Switzerland, and with

Adam Curry (58:28):
a list, he's he's so with a lisp, he's so normal. All
right, so we did indeed receivetwo emails, and one was from one
of our producers, and I'll justread the opening to the email.
I'll come back to it later. Hesays, on Thursday's show, John
joked about you and him beingshills for Israel, which would

(58:51):
be a fine enough joke. But thenthe blunder occurred when he
presented to you and everyonelistening, a military industrial
complex swamp monsterextraordinaire with deep tie to
the Israel lobby as a respectedexpert on Middle East affairs.
And he, of course, sent that tome. So I replied and said, I'm

(59:12):
copying John. Since you forgotto copy him on your email,
probably because he couldn'tspell Dvorak, we also received
an email from our dude namedMohammed, and he reminded us of
a previous email, and he said,Is it me, or does it seem like
every single powerful Iranian orIranian proxy figure vanishes

(59:33):
unexpectedly. It seems likesomeone is systematically
getting rid of them after eachassassination will be a couple
of days of colorful rhetoricfollowed by coordination for a
very clean response that doesn'thurt anyone, and bright lit
missiles or drones that areintercepted by the Iron Dome so
both parties can claim somevictory and have good visuals
for their side social mediaaccounts. And he closes by

(59:56):
saying, just like Adam's Iranianfriends say a lot of people in
this. Region. Think the Iranianregime is coordinating every
step with the US and Israel,which is something we've has
been an ongoing theme. So now Ijust may be, I just connected a
whole bunch of dots. It couldbe, I could be as worse than
that guy, Ian Carroll, you knowthis will you get your team

(01:00:18):
forward? How this will blow yourmind? You know that guy, that
that Tiktok guy, irritates me.

John C Dvorak (01:00:24):
There's a lot of irritating guys out there. He's
one of them. That's one thingwe've noticed over the years.

Adam Curry (01:00:29):
So we need to go back a year to October and
girls. I want to mention andwomen. And women, we need to go
back a year to October 7 lastyear. And I've just pulled a
couple clips just for color.This is McGregor, who said the
following, well, I should pointout that I was in Israel three
years ago in February of 2020,and I had the opportunity,

(01:00:53):
because I was a guest of the IDFchief of staff, to visit the
Gaza front. So to say so, I sawthe barriers, I saw the walls, I
saw how the Israelis hadconstructed what I thought was a
very effective and tightlyorganized security system. To be
perfectly blunt with you, I'msomewhat surprised by the entire

(01:01:15):
thing. It seems almostincomprehensible to me that the
Hamas fighters could have brokenthrough as suddenly and as
easily as they did without twothings. One is shameless
incompetence, for which I saw noevidence when I was in Israel or
someone deliberately let themin. It's just hard for me to

(01:01:36):
believe that Hamas was quitethat clever. Now, if you recall
October 7, immediately, wasbilled as, this is our 911 This
is our 911 This is it theIsrael. The Jews were saying it,
Sir Brian of London. You got tounderstand, because that was the

(01:01:58):
messaging all across Israel.This is our 911 only would be,
you know, the 220 300 people isthe equivalent to 30,000

Americans. We had to remember the extrapolation
that constantly Yes, which Ifound offensive. Well,

because that, I believe that was a meme that was
launched because it is indeedvery hard to understand how
Israel let their security lapse?We don't have to go through all
the clips, but a cat could walkpast that wall or that
particular border structure, andbells and alarms and everything

(01:02:34):
will go off, and machine gunsstart firing automatically, but
no none of that, and it tookthem hours and hours to come to
where the breach had occurred.So I think we talked about at
the time, the comparison to 911is probably pretty apt, because,
you know, that was an insidejob. I'm just going to say it at

(01:02:55):
least as a sufficient evidencethat we did, never got the full
story. WTC, seven, and we nevergot, we never got the full
story. On October 7, on October8, it was Hezbollah who started
shooting rockets over so now I'mgoing to go to another podcast
called call me back. It's DanSenor, and he does this podcast

(01:03:19):
is pretty much for the pastyear, has only been about what's
happening in Israel and Gaza andLebanon, and he has with him a
guy named Nadav Eyal. And hereis their assessment of the
situation in Israel, butpredominantly in Lebanon. And

(01:03:42):
what we

Unknown (01:03:43):
are seeing here in the last 14 days, and specifically
with the killing of Hassannastrala, the leader of us
designated terror organization,a man with American blood on his
hands, and mainly, by the way,the blood of Syrian Muslims on
his hands, dozens of 1000s ofSyrians. One of the reasons
we're seeing scenes of ofcelebration around Syria as a

(01:04:07):
result, and not only in Syria,but across the region, I've
I've gotten more messages sinceOctober 7 from friends and
officials in the Sunni Arabworld, particularly the Sunni
Gulf, celebrating what Israeldid to Nasrallah. So
I'm getting the same kind ofmessages. And the reason for

(01:04:30):
that is that strategically, thetide has shifted. We have been
talking on your show, and I'vebeen making two points. The
first point is that Israel istrying to restore the deterrence
it did not have on October 7,when it was attacked by Hamas,
on October 8, when it wasattacked by Hezbollah, in April,
when it was attacked by Iran andby the Houthis in between, and

(01:04:54):
the tide has changed, and whatIsrael has done to Nasrallah,
the leader of the. Most wellfunded and well founded terror
organization in the world, andto its entire central command is
something that is simplyvibrating through the region and
has changed the region already.This is a strategic change.

(01:05:18):
Sometimes, you know these kindsof operations, they carry
tactical weight. There wasalways someone to replace, not
in this case, very much likeOsama bin Laden. This was the
Hassan astrala that entered thiswar, and he made the biggest
mistake by entering this war andaligning himself with

(01:05:39):
yerkesinwar, the leader ofHamas.

So as I'm listening to this podcast on the dog walk
last night, what reallytriggered me was this next clip
when he brought up UN resolution1701,

Unknown (01:05:52):
all these calls for ceasefires were misguided, that
the international communityshould have been focused on
getting Hezbollah to move back,back north of the latani River,
as it was mandated to do sounder UN Security Council
resolution 1701, after the 2006Lebanon War. And for the last 11

(01:06:13):
months, there's been little tonone of a serious effort to
pressure Hezbollah. Yes, there'sbeen some behind the scenes
moves and whatnot, but therehasn't been a full thrall. The
international community was notmobilized to pressure Hezbollah,
and that failure to focus onHezbollah the way Israel was
keeping an eye on Hezbollah andthinking about its next move on

(01:06:34):
Hezbollah is as responsible oras much of a driver to this
moment as anything absolutely,
I was amazed when I saw theBiden Emmanuel Macron
declaration saying after thequote, unquote escalation in
South Lebanon, in other words,after, Israel was having one

(01:06:57):
success after The other, thatnow they're calling for 21 days
of ceasefire. So

the way this came across to me is, wait a minute.
Everybody was just letting thishappen. There was, there was no
calls for, you know, that thiswas against. I mean, the minute
something's against, the UNresolution, usually, and
everyone's there, everyone's inNew York, like, How come nobody
said anything? So back to yourguy from your clip, I pulled a

(01:07:25):
little piece. His name is Davidwormer. He's the guy who had, I
think was, an NTD clip.

Unknown (01:07:30):
He never lived up to its side of seven, resolution
1701 and that's now the Israelidemand that resolution 1701 be
actually implemented. And if theUN and the World doesn't force
on Hezbollah to live up to itsterms, the Israelis will go in
on the ground and forceHezbollah to live up to its

(01:07:51):
terms.

So back to the email from the guy who talked about
our incredible blunder hetaught, he says, David wormer, a
simple book of knowledge reviewwould have sent up many red
flags about this guy. He justheard, as per the book of
knowledge, David wormer has aPhD in international relations
from John Hopkins University. Heworked in navy intelligence. He

(01:08:13):
was the Middle East advisor toDick Cheney and Special
Assistant to John Bolton. Thisalone should be enough to make
anything he says, suspect. Dig alittle deeper, and we find that
he was working as an advisor toDick Cheney. He was investigated
by the FBI for espionage. Blah,blah, blah, blah, blah. When I
hear all those names, and I'malready putting the Israeli 911

(01:08:34):
in my head, okay, so this guyhas a message to send, and
actually what this blunder turnsout to be quite the great find,
because where are we on the listright now of the West Clark
seven? And then

Unknown (01:08:49):
I came back to the Pentagon. About six weeks later,
I saw the same officer. I said,Why? Why haven't we attacked
Iraq? We still going to attackIraq. He said, Oh, sir. He says
it's worse than that. He pulledup a piece of paper off his
desk. He said, I just got thismemo from the Secretary of
Defense's office. It says we'regoing to that says we're going
to attack and destroy thegovernments in seven countries
in five years. We're going tostart with Iraq, and then we're

(01:09:09):
going to move to Syria, Lebanon,Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.

We have them all now, except for Iran, and
Lebanon was one that we hadn'tquite captured. And Lebanon is
really important, strategic,political, Geo, strategically. I
mean, they've got this port.They've got, we know that this
huge gas fields offshore Theplace has been in in a in a
state of disarray for quite awhile, financial disarray. I

(01:09:40):
think that it's probably truethat certainly the younger
generation is happy this gotthis family man is off the
scene, that there's no onereally to follow him up. They
blew up with the pagers, all ofthe probably lieutenants or
whatever. And there may be somekind, you know, the IDF. We
already heard that on Thursday.IDF is probably. Going to go in,

(01:10:01):
we may see some form of arevolution, albeit probably a
peaceful one, to change what ishappening in Lebanon, to make it
us friendly. And now we comeback to our dude named Mohammed,
who says, you know, I wonder ifAmerica is working with Iran to
get all some stuff done we haveit's not Iran it's not the

(01:10:22):
Iranian people, it's theRevolutionary Guard, it's the
mullahs, it's the it's theSupreme Leader. So we need to
take those guys out, and we needa reason. If only we had a
reason. What could the reasonbe? If I

Unknown (01:10:37):
were president and a former president and a leading
candidate. I'm the leadingcandidate by far to be the next
president, and that leadingcandidate was under threat. But
if I were the president, I wouldinform the threatening country,
in this case, Iran, that if youdo anything to harm this person,

(01:11:00):
we are going to blow yourlargest cities and the country
itself to smithereens. We'regoing to blow it to smithereens.
You can't do that. And

right on cue, my neighbor, Laura Logan, connected
to Defense Intelligence Agencythrough her husband, who no
longer is in service, comes outwith a post urgent, according to
informant in New Mexico, Trump'splane is the next target for
assassination. Nine heat seekingsurface to air missiles have
been smuggled into the US forthis purpose, and there are

(01:11:32):
three kill teams already insidethe country. Trump has been
informed. So have the US, Intelagencies and other authorities.
Money has been transferred to acartel to push this over the
border. These people arecornered and vicious. They will
stop at nothing. So only one oftwo scenarios is now possible,
either.

I like the way you dramatize it. It is good
dramatize Well,

I mean, that's the way the church lady Text group
dramatized it, because they'relike, oh, Laura poses this, you
know, Infowars, multiple sourcesnow confirm surface to air
missiles inside us to targetTrump

forced one. Oh, you're getting,

I'm getting, Alex. I'm getting, I'm doing it, I'm
doing it. I'm doing it. So oneof two scenarios is possible.
One is something actuallyhappens, President Trump is
assassinated by a surface to airmissile, God forbid, but I'm
just saying God forbid, but itwould certainly be a reason to

(01:12:30):
target Iran. I think more likelyis, this is Trump's job, and it
is probably said, and I justhave to step back where many
people believe that Israelcontrols America, I believe the
opposite. We control Israel.It's our aircraft carrier in the

(01:12:50):
desert in the sand. And this hasbeen a setup from one year ago
to get every single piece of thechessboard all the way up to
Iran, and there will be areason, probably, for Trump, as
President, to take out theNational Guard, the moolahs, the
whole kit and caboodle. It maybe just as surgical. He may have

(01:13:13):
more pager blow ups or whatever,and then but a Bing, but a boom.
We have the West Clark sevencompleted, and then the Neo cons
have exactly what they wanted.Instead of taking three years,
it took them 23 years. That'swhat this feels like to me, and

took them a long time. Can I take do a little
meta on this? Yeah, please. Isit possible because of, if you
back off to your own thesis andMuhammad's commentary about how
the Israelis and the Americansand the Iranians were already
working together, that they'vealready been taken over.

Very possible. And, and, you know, and the rest of
it is all

show, all shows, all theater,

fireworks, fireworks. Yeah, completely
possible.

I mean, and that's the reason they had to
get rid of Nasrallah. They werealso, how did anybody, I don't
care how good Mossad is, or ourpeople, how do they know where
this guy is, where they can do atargeted bunker buster from a I
get an F 16, or whatever planethey shot, it from which has

(01:14:23):
been documented, a targetedbunker buster that went and blew
up the basement and went throughand killed this guy when he's
never, ever seen who, how didthey ever know where he was?
This is an inside job.Interesting.

You bring that up. I didn't clip it, but the that Al
guy on the dance in your call meback podcast, he said exactly
what you're saying. Like thiswas, what kind of intelligence,
how did they get? And he went onto say, I have my thoughts. You
know, I'm working on sourceslike, not going to say anything
about it yet. So everyone'sasked. Asking this question, How

(01:15:01):
was this possible? I agree,inside job. It is the the 911 of
the Middle East and and we'realmost done. I mean, Syria, we,
you know, we have troops there.Sudan, big mess. It's all our
arms that

are. Got to remember, they've killed off
that, that one superstar leaderin I don't know, where was it,
Lebanon. They got him in thishotel room and they blew up,
though, they supposedly sent amissile, it turns out to be a
bomb in a room in Tehran to takeout this other guy who knows is
absolutely right when he says,These guys have been

(01:15:36):
disappearing one after theother, and they're all a threat
to the system.

So now we just need some big fireworks. It would, it
would be kind of cool to havesome surface to air missiles not
hit anything but go off. Youknow, more more cool fireworks.
I mean, that's that. It has tobe something like that. You got
to go back to the to ground zeroon October 7, bull crap the

(01:16:01):
Israelis. Whoa, whoa. How didthat happen? No way. This thing
was a setup from the beginning.Unfortunately, had to kill, you
know, like 50,000 men, women andchildren in Gaza. But I think
they thought it was worth it,and they don't care. They killed
3000 Americans on 911 they don'tcare, sent in millions of

(01:16:23):
troops. Wound up killing amillion Iraqis. They killed

left and right. I'm always go, I take it all the
way back to that Korean flightthat flew, you know, an inch
over Moscow. It was justaccidental move, or even though
they turns out the thing wasfilled with cameras. It was
taking pictures of some base,yeah, and there was a bunch of
paying passengers in that plane,yeah, you know, they paid good
money to take a nice, safeflight to Tokyo, where everyone

(01:16:48):
was headed, and they all gotkilled. Nobody cares. And

by the way, they didn't care, sending out a
dangerous product to inject tothe American people and the rest
of the world. They don't care.Guess the price, and

Unknown (01:17:02):
neither did Trump.

FYI, so this would be the perfect reason for Trump
to become president. Perfect.He's been threatened. He says,
Hey, I'm gonna he basicallysays, I'll blow you to
smithereens if you threaten me,although he said, Oh, if it was
the opposing candidate, yeah,whatever. You know, there's, you
see the videos, these slickvideos which are clearly CGI,

(01:17:27):
computer generated media, CGM,maybe I should say, with, you
know, supposedly made by Iran,put on the on the Ayatollah's
webpage or the President'swebpage. And it's Trump golfing
at Mar a Lago, and this robotwith a camera, you know, little,
you know, little four wheel jobrolls along, and then it goes up

(01:17:49):
there, and it targets thepresident, and then all of a
sudden, the drone kills him. Onon the eighth hole. This is all
part of the show. The questionis, does it come as an October
surprise? Which would makesense. You know, Trump's the
guy. He's the guy that'll takehim out. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb

(01:18:12):
Iran, bomb them, bomb them andbomb them again. Everybody's
teed up, especially Fox News.You

Well, I think they've already got Iran in the
pocket. I think this wholething, they're not going to bomb
Iran anytime soon, and I thinkthe mullahs knew that. And this,
with this whole thing, is thissomething of a ski. I mean, it's
a complete scam, from top tobottoms, exactly. And with that,
it's well done.

It's, it's very well done, because we've already
forgotten October 7. We alreadyforgot that we're already beyond
it. We're beyond it. All right,Trump's out there talking a big
game about it, and Iranian wasgoing to kill Trump. Okay, sure,
sure. We'll see what happens.And with that, I'd like to thank

(01:18:59):
you for your currency in themorning, to you, the man who put
the sea in the climate week inNew York. Say hello to my friend
on the other end, the one andonly. Mr. Johnson

Unknown (01:19:13):
thunder,

welcome to I'm sorry. In the morning to you and
Mr. Adam curry, also in themorning, ship sea boots and
Raffy in the air, steps of thewater, all the games and nights
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(01:20:48):
I explained just yesterday, Iwas on the other day, I was on
the new media show, andyesterday I was on the
podcasting summit, the whatpodcast summit, the summit for
podcasters. Really aboutpodcasting 2.0 I was talking
about how we do the show. Youknow, our Yes, our little

podcast here, I ran into a whole series of you
being on all these randompodcasts. Was

it on tick tock? And did you get into the Al? Did the
algo suck you in?

No, it was on YouTube. Oh, also, same

thing and, and I was always very, I'm very
complimentary, am I not aboutyou? Especially about you? No,
no, okay,

I think there's, I will talk to you about it
after the show. I do have somethoughts. Oh, did I do something
wrong? Well, it's no, it'snothing bad. But I think you,
you have a pitch, and you, Ithink you're de emphasizing one
of the elements of the pitch,which is that we don't do
premium content.

Oh, I, sometimes I forget that, yes,

because that you can really go out because
premium this i and the reasonthat comes up to comes to mind
is I was, there was some 404,media, whenever this one group
does the sub stackers, and thenthey go on about how they're
going to do a podcast aboutthis, about this column, and
then there's going to be premiumcontent for these subscribers.

(01:22:13):
And I'm thinking, Why? Why? Whyare you hiding it? Is the
information better than thestuff you're normally telling
us? Is it secretive? Can you canyou ever refer to it because
it's premium? Why are youforcing is the material you're
actually trying to service agreater audience? Are you just
trying to cut it, cut them off?I mean, I I just don't

(01:22:35):
understand the mentality behindand this was all started by
Patreon. I do not understand thementality of premium content.
Thank you. In other words, Imean, it should all, if it's all
premium Yeah, it's like a stockmarket newsletter. You have to
pay for it because it's allpremium content. It's not for
the general it's not just freeinformation, because you can

(01:22:56):
make money from money makingcontent. Yes, but in the case of
this show and these and allthese other podcasts. Why are
you hiding some of theinformation from the general
listener, many of whom can'tafford to to subscribe to
anything. We have a lot ofpeople that I just know. They
just can't afford it. They can'tafford five bucks.

Yeah, and I think this is an excellent point.
Thank you for reminding me. Dowe have to have the meeting
still, or can we not have themeeting?

There's some other issues. I'm

gonna be nervous.

I'll bring them out. I'm

gonna be nervous. I

don't know why you keep harping on the you have
now come up with a new thesis,that we hate each other.

I never said we hate each other.

Yes, you suggested it.

I said we're not really friends. Y'all know you

said we're not really friends. We might even
hate each other. You said thatit's a joke. It's not perceived
as a joke by me. I'm sorry.

Well,

Unknown (01:23:51):
do you love me? I

think we are friends. If you ask for a favor
from a friend, I would give youthe favor. I've

only been to dinner at your house once. You live in

Texas.

I used to live in California, even then once, and
you didn't even let me see yourstudio.

Well, no, you're not going to see the studio,
okay, under any circumstances.But that's beside the point. We
used to go to dinner a lot whenyou were near.

It was really a build out because I got bored of
telling people I should go backto saying we don't talk outside
of the show to keep it fresh.That's that's where that comes
from.

Okay? And you also leave out the part that
this is performance art, yeah,you're not using it.

No, that's your term. You always use the term,
yeah, but you know it's right. I

Okay. I didn't know that you were reluctant to
okay, you don't see it that way.No, okay,

no, I see it that way. But I don't like the term.
I like saying because, you know,performance art, think makes me
think of Bjork or Lady Gaga.

Okay, I get it. I get it.

Unknown (01:24:58):
Well with me, I

could see where you could be. I find it
objectionable, objectionable.

But what I usually try to explain and, and, yes,
sometimes I You're absolutelyright. I'm taking the criticism
as as constructive. What, whatI, what I did say in that same
interview is, you know, we have,sometimes up to 100 clips, and
we're just playing off eachother. We don't play them all,
but this is an ongoing creativeprocess, and we just flow into

(01:25:25):
each other. And

I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, yes, we do. I'm
not gonna name the podcasterbecause I get because honestly
don't remember his name. Butthere was some guy who were on
some podcast where I swear,because I had the time codes, it
was 37 minutes before he evenput you on the screen, and then
he talked another 10 minutesbefore he let you say a word. It

(01:25:49):
was almost an hour of the wholepodcast of him jabbering.

I'm trying to think what this must have been a while
back. I'm trying to think it

was, it wasn't, it wasn't, not that far back. It
was maybe three or four monthsago, and it was yak, yak, yak. I
mean this. And it was, I don't,I don't want to insult a fellow
podcaster, even though

I remember there was a podcast like that where this
happened. I remember tellingTina, like, wow, like guy talk
more than than me. Just kept ontalking. I don't, I don't
remember who it was, yeah, yeah,and that's okay, but absolutely
Point taken. And of course,we're friends,

Unknown (01:26:31):
kind of kissing cousins,

so I'm not going to take anything. I'm not
kissing

now. Do we not have to have the meaning, or is there
even more?

There's one or two things in a little more? No,

oh no. Oh no. Hey, let me critique your interview.
Oh, wait, you don't do any,okay, I've

done a couple. You promote the show.

When's the last time you promoted the show? Exactly,
I'm out there living on theedge, man, I'm taking all the
hits and people email me whenthey're angry at you. Well,

that's fine. It's working out for me.

I refuse to have this meeting after the show.
There's something else you needto say. You can say it now. No,
well, is it constructive? Willit improve the promotion of

the show? No, no,

it's just you bitching about me. Is

that what it is? No, it's a suggestion. Okay,

Unknown (01:27:37):
all right, you can suggest it. No, no, because

this is no, because no, it's bond to it
properly in public.

I will respond. I You really can't make me mad
anymore, except the other day,

the other day try. That's the reason the

other day you thought I was mad when I said,
Hey, why don't you just do theshow with Mo. I think I did say
that. Yes, you did.

I don't know. I mean, I like Mo, but yeah, he's
he's more than I can take.

There you go. Hello, everybody. All right, so Good
point. There's no premiumcontent you can't access, and
people who can't afford tosupport us with their treasure
of the time, talent andtreasure. You can support us in
other ways, by telling people tolisten, by promoting us somehow.
One of the ways that we like toreceive value, and our value for

(01:28:35):
value model, is from ourartists. We have a lot of them,
and they use no agenda, Artgenerator.com, we were talking a
lot about AI on the last show.PS, producers, you don't have to
send me the notebook. Lm,podcast that you made up. Okay,
everybody is coming up with ID.Did you get all did you get a

(01:28:57):
number of these?

Yes, and I'm gonna I, since I'm working on a
sub stack column about this, Ione of them I do want to
actually use, go have a link to,yeah, anyone can do these. I
mean, it just, I know, but thenotebook LM is terrible, and by
the way, so I'm sitting atdinner with their family on
Friday, and I just mentionednotebook LM and JC, who's in the

(01:29:21):
AI, he's got an AI company.Says, oh, that's the greatest.
What? So I called him out? He

says, The Greatest. Let's do a deep dive. This is
mind blowing. Oh, yeah, ah,yeah. That then, after you
called him out, what happened?

He immediately backed off. He said, Yeah, it
sucks. So

this one producer, since we're on it, he uploaded a
text file that had like threewords in it. Monk, I think was
like one. What does monkey taintsmell like? That was literally
the input for the podcast. Andhe did three others, you know,

(01:30:07):
like, okay, but I do have toplay just a little bit of this
one.

Bag (01:30:10):
Okay, you've got to hear this one. Today's deep dive is
dot unique. Our listener wantsto know, what does a monkey
taint smell like.

Unknown (01:30:19):
And frankly,
who am I to judge? Let's divein. You

Douche (01:30:23):
know, it's funny, isn't it? The listener gives us this
single, open ended question, noextra info, nothing. Just what?
What does a monkey taint smelllike? Right?

Bag (01:30:32):
No, I was at the zoo the other day and or I've always
wondered, just straight to themonkey taint. So where do we
even start with this? I mean, onthe one hand, it's a question
about a smell, presumably. So

Douche (01:30:43):
we're already making assumptions. Well, yeah, I

Bag (01:30:44):
guess we are. Okay. So it's question about smell,
potentially, and it's aboutmonkeys.

How are they making assumptions? That's
exactly what the question was.

This is why it's,

what does that smell like, in

Bag (01:30:58):
some way, but it's also got this word taint, yeah, that's

Douche (01:31:01):
the real curveball, isn't it? Curveball? It's a real
curveball, John. It's evocative,suggestive, not your average
neutral word for a body part,because you wonder what kind of
smell the listener is picturing.You know exactly

Bag (01:31:14):
like. Are we talking about something acrid, musky, sweet,
putrid? The word taint kind ofimplies something a bit
offensive, right? Oh, man,

this is how bad it is.

Now, this is Google. I want to say a couple
of things before we will get offthis in a second for people or
think it sucks, but this isGoogle. They're editorializing.
There's example after example ofthem editorializing one thing or
another. It's got nothing to dowith what this is supposed to
be. Notebook. It's supposed tobe, take your notes and then

(01:31:49):
turn them into some sort ofnarrative so you can, you know,
listen to it. You learn. You canbe educated. It's not supposed
to teach it, you know, lifelessons. It's called notebook.
Hello. What does notebook mean?

And the sad thing is, it probably cost $5 to
create this podcast in computecost. I think you're low in
Compute costs.

I think you're low.

Yeah, I might be, I might be, that's and, dude, I'm
telling you not you do. Butdudes, dude, when they really
start charging you what it costsfor this nonsense. It's gonna,
it's over. No one's gonna use itlike, you know, it's really, you
know, someone sent me a songabout the pod files that's
really cute. If it had cost you10 bucks you've done it. No,

(01:32:34):
exactly. It's not that cute.It's because it's free. Now,
we'll talk more about thatlater. Let's get back to our
artists. Because we were talkingabout the concept of AI slop,
which I'm hearing now, even onBloomberg, I heard him talking
about it. So the term is outthere AI slop, which is ruining

(01:32:56):
review websites is ruiningcomments is ruining websites
where people upload shortstories they've written.
Everything is now chat, GPT,anthropic, Claude, slop, Gemini.
And so we felt it was onlyfitting to choose a piece of AI
slop, which came from comicstrip blogger,

creative, quite good, quite good, quite a good
piece. Yes,

well, give it, you know, give it to mid journey or
wherever, whatever. AI system,computer generated imagery
system, did this. It was alittle computer lady with a bowl
of AI slop. It was boom,

deep dive, yeah, and it was slopping all over the
place. It was green goo.

Yeah, it was good.

She's a robot, yeah, it was, it was a, it was a
compositions, dynamite did aterrific job. Yes,

we almost went with Ukraine. Loves bombs by Nico
Sime, which we, actually likedit better, just for the
dynamicness of the of the image,which is a Ukrainian flag in a
heart shape, holding a bomb witha cute little smile on his face.
But we immediately took, uh,took issue with the Korean

(01:34:17):
Dvorak being almost unreadable.It was unreadable. Very small.

He had jacked that up to, well, it looks like
it's about, at least on thislittle image, it's probably 14
points, maybe, if he was jackedit up to, like 4050, points. So
it was across the bottom, yeah.Very probably would have won.

Unknown (01:34:38):
Very small. We

you kind of liked Darren O'Neill's curry on Dvorak
2028 but you said it's aviolation because the name
Dvorak was much bigger than thename curry. It was a violation,
which is a violation, violation,um. Um, I, I liked the comic
strip bloggers, AI, the snakeeating its own tail, but you

(01:35:05):
didn't even see it. You didn'tsee that. It was a snake eating
its own tail. So I

just saw a circle, yeah, yeah. When you
pointed it out, I saw it, yeah.But that's also had an AI eating
itself with a kind of a serpenttrying, but never got to it
wasn't, wasn't it? So that, no,that wasn't gonna happen.

And I think those were the main ones that we
considered. Lots of people threwup some other AI based stuff.
But of note was rocket boy, whoput two dorky nerds with
microphones and then curryDvorak on drum like, is that AI
us or something? What was thatall about?

I those are very, as baffled as you. Very

strange, very strange choice he made there.
Well, I mean,

it's like, when you see it you asked, have to
ask yourself Self, why did heeven submit it? Yeah, and
there's two microphones, one's abig and they're not hooked to
anything. It's just like, it's abad AI.

Unknown (01:36:11):
All right,

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think I'm no good at myinterviews. You may have nobody
said that. You may have notesfor me. I've got a note. Got a
note

trying to improve things. I got a note. No, no,
you take you take offense.That's fine, not taking offense.
Adam the lesbian, what? Nothing.Adam the lesbian, yeah, you just
some people get the gag, hmm,

okay, well, the troll room is just doing
question marks. Like, what is hetalking about anyway? Um, here's
my friend, the oil baron, whohas been, uh, discussed on this
show with, uh, he's definitelygive us some time and talent in
driftwood. Driftwood is that, Ithink that's where Jason

(01:38:05):
Calacanis just bought his ranch.

Is there a lake or an ocean around there where
there's driftwood, where

they used to be, long time ago, long, long time
ago, and the oil baron comes inwith $1,000 and just says from
the oil baron, and I could notbe happier. Thank you very much,
oil baron. And he hasn't. Hedidn't ask for a knighting or a
or any type of title, but I willping him after the show and ask

(01:38:37):
him what

he wants. He wants to be for a Commodore.
Give me always a certificate.Yeah,

yes, he should be a Commodore oil baron. Commodore
Commodore the oil baron. We'llget the information. And thank
you very much, brother, that'smy my buddy, Paul the oil baron.
A cool 1000 Jason

actually did move there, huh? Oh,

Unknown (01:38:58):
yeah, yeah.

This would be a interesting and another friend I
brought in, who supports,where's your friends supporting?
Where's the lib Joe's

lib Joe's on moving to Texas. Dennis Harrison
is up. He's in Beaumont,Mississippi, and he wants to be
Commodore Harrison jingles. LSharpton, special jobs, jobs,
jobs, thank you for your value.Love it. Knight. Name, sir. He
wants to be a knight. I guesshe's gotten to that point. And

(01:39:31):
Sir Harrison of the rednecks,table request, wagyu, rib eye,
shabu, shabu with Riman noodlesand ASAHI SUPER DRY beer for
your information. Roseanne Barrat the Tucker event in Dallas
was ridiculously over the top.Okay, lol, he says, kind

(01:39:52):
regards. Dennis, yo,

Unknown (01:39:54):
there's no real conflict. Jobs, jobs, jobs and
jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Karma. All right, we move on to Sir eight bit Ben
from Evansville, Indiana, 512,33 let's see what he has to say.
Sir eight bit Ben here wouldlike to claim the title of
Commodore VIC 20 with this V forV donation. I would also ask the
peerage committee if I couldclaim my overdue Baron title

(01:40:25):
accounting an eight bit BaronTesla license plate pick
attached. I didn't see thepicture. Must be cool. Does he
say sir eight bit Ben on hislicense plate?

I don't have it. I would like to

claim the territory of Southern Indiana. If the
committee approves, I see noissue. By the way. Got to Baron
with my monthly chip donation of6502 kindly asking other retro
geeks to join in on thatdonation. Good one,

yes, 6502 it's the original Apple two chip.
Yes. Indeed.

For those who don't know, the Commodore VIC 20 was a
very important computer for itstime, not only being promoted by
William Shatner, it was one ofthe first computers used by many
famous tech figures like Linus,Torvalds, uh, SART Satoru,
Iwata, who was that? Satoru?Iwata, I have no idea. John
Carmack, who was that?

I know who that is, but I can't think of it.
Elon

Musk,

I doubt it, or

himself, sir Abby Ben and the podfather, Adam
curry, and he sent me a clip.Did

you wait a stop you? Your first computer was a
VIC 20? No,

my first computer was the Sinclair ZX 80.

Well, that's even nerdier. And

then my second computer was the Vic 20, which
was not called the Vic 20. Itcame from Germany. In Germany,
they called it something else. Iforget what it was the Vic 20,
because vicin means it's the Fword in

German, vicin vicinity, okay?

And he said, here's the clip from show number 15 of
the no agenda show. I didn't,didn't have a lot of dough
around. And then, of course, theVic 20, the Commodore VIC 20,
the predecessor to the Commodore64 that was really my, my first
real computer that I hackedaround with. I built a I built
my own acoustic modem to usewith it. And we figured out they

(01:42:24):
had these ROM cartridges thatyou could plug in with games.
And we figured out how to copythe games from rom onto
cassettes, and we would sellthose. It was, it was a lot of
fun. There you go. How about howabout that sound? Huh? A

couple of things. Yes, for one thing, and I'll
remember that, but I will saythat, and I should, because I
should have said something aboutyou built your own acoustic
modem, really, I

sure did

with a couple of speakers. No,

it took a telephone microphone. No, took, took an
existing telephone horn, andpulled out the elements and then
put them in two little cardboardboxes, and then had a very small
PC board that we connected tothe back of the visual me and my
mouse in your pocket. My buddydick radamachers And we both

(01:43:15):
worked at the electronic storeso we could steal all the
components.

So you're a Larson, yes, on Saturday, on
Saturdays, that's what happenedto all the pencils over there at
me. Video, it

worked at approximately 75 baud, if I
recall. Yeah, sounds aboutright. So I could punch a key,
and then that key would show upon his screen. Finally, he says,
Can I get some jobs karma? Afterbeing a dude named Ben and
leader of Ben for over 21 years,I was recently let go. If anyone
has an interesting problem tosolve and is looking for an IT

(01:43:50):
leader that's not afraid ofchange, has decades of
infrastructure experience andactually understands how
computers work. I can be reachedat eight bit. Dot FYI, thank
you. Craig Kohler, aka sir APBen Barron of Southern Indiana,
to be in a few moments. Andthank you very much. And here is
your jobs karma. Hope it worksout for you, brother, jobs,

Unknown (01:44:10):
jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs karma,

sir becoming heroic in sharerville, Indiana,
500 and all he says is he wantsto be, sir, becoming heroic
commodore of the unsinkable, twobeautiful it's, we

shall make it so anonymous Vista California, $500
in the morning. Gentlemen, I'vebeen wanting to donate for some
time, and between a recentpromotion and the prospect of a
Commodore title, I couldn'tjustify being a douchebag any
longer. Please dedoosh. Me,

Unknown (01:44:49):
you've been deduced. I would

like to be known as Commodore Swizzle of the tiki
realms. Thank you both for allyou do no karma and no jingles
and thank you very much.Anonymous.

Sir RJ of grand point in Grand point or point,
Manitoba, California,California, Canada. Manitoba,
California. It should be a man.This should be this $500
donation equals $702.60Canadians. Thanks. Justin

(01:45:22):
Trudeau, I missed my normal3333, donation for my birthday
in July. As I've been working onmy own exit strategy, which is
now complete, between the carbontax, GST, PST, labor tax,
business tax, property tax, thatare all charged here in Canada,
I've decided that owning anindependent business isn't worth

(01:45:45):
all the bullshit anymore. Oh,man. So at 56 I officially
joined the retired community,and it's time to enjoy life.
Whoa.

What's he gonna do? Putter in the lawn.

He's gonna be puttering in the backyard.

Dude, there's much more to do. 56 you're a baby.
You're just getting started.He's

younger than Adam. Yeah, I've bumped up my
normal donation amount for latefees. And as a bonus, I get the
Commodore certificate as usualfor my birthday. Can you play
the OG Sharpton clip? Sir RJ ofgrand point tonight

Unknown (01:46:22):
is the measure of whether the country begins in
the state of Wisconsin anational drive to push back, or
whether we have more to go tobuild a movement of resistance.
But resist we much, we must, andwe will much about that be

(01:46:45):
committed to classic that
is one of my favorites.

Yes, the classic. That's what started us off on
the on finding Sharpton stuff.

He's He's a gem. He's a gem deserves every penny,
every penny. Yeah, you're alwayscomplaining about how much he
makes every penny he deserves.We have done well by him. He's
done well by us. Cory Baker isin Fort Myers flyer Florida,
$500 and he says, should beenough for a doubleting, double
knighting. Accounting willfollow. And we did not receive

(01:47:17):
his email from Cory Baker, Ilooked, I'm sure you looked. I'm

looking now, as a matter of fact, and I will say
this, so we got a Corey Bakerfrom May 24 about the newsletter
fiasco. We got a Cory Baker fromanother newsletter fail. I guess
he keeps track of this inOctober of last year. Nothing
since,

okay, Corey Baker, so we will keep it in abeyance
for you, and when you areclearly you can email us, so
when it shows up, we'll, we'lltake care of

you indeed. Onward with Sir Schwartz in
Langa, Deutsch, Denmark. Ah,he's in Langa. Denmark, 500 from
Sir Schwartz, now commodore ofButland. Denmark. E o n,

Unknown (01:48:04):
that's it.

Perfect. The comment, all right. Steven
utland, Stephen

crummy, El Cajon. Am I saying that right? Yep. El
Cajon. El Cajon, California, 500this donation not only makes me
a Commodore, but puts me overthe threshold for knighting. Dub
me sir, Steve, protector of theERISA. ERISA, ERISA, there we
go. ERISA, E R, i, s, a, oh,it's the law that governs
pension funds, theadministration of which is my

(01:48:32):
profession. ERISA, beefenchiladas and rocks margaritas
at the round table, please. Andhow about an F the EU from that
demon Vicky Newland,
there you go. Thank you verymuch. See the roundtable

you know, hearkening back on that note we
got from the guy bitching aboutour use of that character to
determine the 1701, issue, hegoes on about how it should be
red flagged and this, and thatred flag actually knowing,
knowing all that about the guywas

helpful, was good, it was

it hell, because we we play Vicky Newland clips,
because she does have pertinentinformation, and some of it's
coded, and some of it'snecessary messaging, and it's
important to play this stuff,yes,

and that's what I said, is, even though it was
meant as a You guys suck typeemail, it really helped me. I
was like, Oh, this makes sense,

yes, because it got you into a rabbit hole. Yes,
that's a helping anybody. Yeah,it

was helping. We figured it out. We figured out.
Iran, hello, oh, I'm notsupposed to say that. People are
saying I say hello too much.

Oh, are you? Are you saying hello too much? Well,

I went to the transcript. I said it three
times in the last show, which Ithink is too much. Hello, hello.
No So hello. Who

says that more than you do? Mark Levin, Oh,
Hello America. No,

no. It's, it's not just hello as in a greeting, but
it's like, hello,

Unknown (01:50:08):
hello,

you know, do you not get it yet? It's no good. I'm,
what are we drinking?

No, no. He's, oh, this is a Topo Chico. Oh no,
from going back to the classics.Yes, No. He says it the same way
you're you know, he says itthat. He doesn't say it as a
greeting. He does exactly thesame way you do. We're in the
middle of some say hello, so youdon't know it. Well,

that's more reason for me not to do it.

No reason for Sir Mike of ax head watch, oh, in
Clinton Township, Michigan, thewooden watch guy, yeah, 333,
yes. Three, three. Those watchesare great, by the way, and he's
apparently back in business.Three, three, 3.33. Dear John
and Adam, I've been quite a timesince I donated. I Since I
haven't had the funds. Oh, dueto some bad deals and bad luck,

(01:50:56):
I've been unable to keep affordto keep ax head watch dot shop.
Ax head, watch dot shop open. Ihave not been able to get back
to being a dude named Ben in themortgage industry since peak
covid. After a year ofunemployment, I became a
forklift certified earlier thissummer, which is, I've driven

(01:51:18):
forklift, sir, it's

fun. They're fun to drive,

they're fun to drive. And then back to steady
employment and income. I didn'tknow you had to have a
certificate. I never did. I havealso been once again, now,
because I wasn't a professional,I drove a fork. That doesn't
mean I was no

it's probably a violation of all kinds of labor
laws that you drove it.

I have also been, once again, nominated for the
United States Congress on mi 10,Michigan district 10. Yeah,
Michigan 10. And I've I'm sorryat Michigan 10. Now I can afford
to open the online store backup. Acced Watch, dot shop. I'd
like to encourage promo codeITM, and it's gone from a 20%

(01:51:59):
discount to 33% off all woodenwatches. Tax head watch. Dot
shop for my going out ofbusiness sale. So he's going to
get rid of all his watches.These watches, yeah, we both
have one. You both have one.They're they're quite unique and

and if the apocalypse comes, you can use it
as a handy fire starter.

Yeah, I never thought of that. I do believe he
says, this brings me to Baron. Iwould like to be sir Mike of the
Fairfax, liberator of Michigan,10 Baron of Lichtenstein. Please
provide me with jobs karma forthis election, an upcoming
business, and some sort ofhealth karma for my smoking hot
wife, Dame Kelly, who is back inthe hospital unfortunately for a

(01:52:43):
few days. Sir Mike of watch X,watch head, liberator of
Michigan's 10th district.

All right for Dame Kelly, we'll add in a goat.
Jobs,

Unknown (01:52:52):
jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Karma.

Sir Jeremy chumpati is a Associate Executive
Producer today with a run onnumber two, three, 4.56,
Oakville, Ontario. ITMgentlemen. It's my 62nd
birthday. It falls on a podcastday. It would be remiss of me
not to donate. Thank you foryour courage, sir Jeremy
chimfatti Baronet, fattyOakville, Ontario, candinavia.

(01:53:25):
All right, you're on the list.

I'll tell you, if you like to burp a lot, this

way to go, it'll do it. It'll do it. I know it's
very, very bubbly.

Anonymous in will Williston, North Dakota, 210,
60. A little over a year ago, Imade an investment over $10,000
as someone who was supposed tomentor me with starting a
business without going intodetail, it's obviously it's run
off with all my money. Oh no,that sucks. It's within the

(01:53:59):
limits to file in small claimscourt, which I could do myself,
but I'm really looking forsomeone in the community to help
me out with with with it, ifthey have some legal expertise,
hopefully for free, smallclaims. You know, I

thought Small Claims had a limit of 5000 is as

on this it depends on the jurisdiction.
Okay, in most states, I think itis 5000 interesting, and it's
pretty easy to win. It

is you just file it, you're probably gonna win. Yeah,

I can do all the legwork with legwork, but advice
concerning the red tape andpitfalls would help me out. It's
not really that many. It wouldreally just come down to
exchanging some emails here andthere and just putting out and
just putting it out there. Ifsomeone got the time, I if I get
my money back, I'm going to be abig donator. Thanks to all you

(01:54:52):
do every one else, please donatenow. Okay, he's given us no
information, as he's anonymous.Yeah, that's really helpful.
How. Is anyone supposed to helpyou?

Maybe Jay has his information so you can email
notes at no agenda show.net, ifyou think you can help him out.

Yeah, maybe that might work and they just do
that. It won't hurt. And

there's Eli the coffee guy from bensonville,
Illinois. We are just aboutrounding up our list here,
Associate Executive Producer attwo, oh 9.29, and Eli says
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jingle here. What is, what isBDSM, don't enslave me. Kamala,
I don't understand, but just

don't. It's just that don't enslave me. Camel, as
a

Unknown (01:56:20):
bondage, don't enslave
me. Camel,

there you go. Camela, yeah, racist, racist
kid, mispronouncing her name onpurpose.

Linda loupatkins comes in from Lakewood,
Colorado, as usual, andsurprisingly enough, she asks
for jobs karma, and then shesays for a faster, more
effective job search. Visitimagemakers. Inc.com, that's
imagemakers. Inc, with a K yourgo to for executive resumes and
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writer of resumes, jobs,

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jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's

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Unknown (01:57:40):
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up. No agenda donations.com. No agenda
donations.com. You I

have a little three clipper on election fraud.
That's kind of interesting. Butbefore we do that, I do have my
every show a I Kevin GavinNewsom

to see if you can get arrested

because you are breaking legal break,

breaking California law, breaking the law.

Every clip is a scofflaw. So here he is. I This
one came out about it two weeksago, and I missed it. This is a
news I didn't realize thatNewsom's endorsing Trump. Today.
I'm

Unknown (01:58:38):
here to do something that some may think or believe
is unheard of. Yes, the newsreports are correct. I Gavin
Newsom, am here to endorse noneother than Donald J Trump for
President of the United States.Trump's got this knack for
making America the center ofattention, whether it's on
Twitter or on the global stage.He's like that friend who always
has the best stories at dinner,who wouldn't want that kind of

(01:59:00):
energy. But seriously, in thisendorsement, I see an
opportunity, an opportunity fordialog, for understanding, for
maybe, just maybe, findingcommon ground. Trump is hands
down, the best candidate in thisrace. Because if there's one
thing I've learned in politics,it's that sometimes you've got
to dance with the one whobrought you, or in this case,
the one who's brought the mostentertainment, Trump 2024

it's pretty good. It's pretty good. Now, did you
just find this? Or did you make

I actually searched for it. The his, I
think, is, I think his on thisone, I think the speed and
cadence is a little faster thanit should be. Yes, it is. He
doesn't quite talk that fast,but it's good, and I can see why
this, something like this wouldwould upset him before

you move to the election fraud. Just to wrap up
the AI, I'd like to play oneclip, because there have been
some developments that needbrief discussion amongst us.

Unknown (01:59:59):
Open. AI, the world's most valuable AI startup has
lost another chief executive,Chief Technology Officer, Mira
Marathi, is one of more than 20key staff who've departed this
year, leaving CEO Sam Altmanwith just one of his fellow co
founders. Is it a real problemor just growing pains? Let's ask
technology editor Peter O'Brien,Peter open, AI, currently trying

(02:00:22):
to raise a lot of money. Sosurely this can't look good for
investors. Hi,
Caris, well, you're right. Open,AI, at the moment, they're
trying to get about six and ahalf billion US dollars from
investors hoping to close thatround by the end of next week.
That would value them at 150billion US dollars. I think
let's just start off by puttingthat into context, because it's

(02:00:44):
a tall order. What they'reasking for that would almost
double their their value. Itwould also put them just not too
far behind something likeSpaceX, which has launched about
95 rockets into space this year.And, you know, obviously behind
the third place behind the bytedance for Jones Tiktok, which
has a billion monthly activeusers worldwide. So yes, they're

(02:01:08):
wanting to be really, really oneof the three big, big startups
in the world. And it doesn'texactly inspire confidence that
there have been all of thesedepartures from open AI, but
we've also seen further reportsthis week that OpenAI is looking
to restructure into a for profitwith a nonprofit arm, changing
from its current format, whichis a nonprofit with a rather

(02:01:32):
large for profit arm. What doesthis mean? This really means
that investors are probablygoing to start thinking actually
they are more interested in myreturn on investment, then their
current very nebulous goal oftrying to create an AI for all
of humanity, which is smarterthan humanity, but which is also
safe and beneficial, right? Theinvestors want a return

(02:01:53):
eventually, and a shift to a forprofit structure would give some
confidence.

They've brought in the Saudis for this round, which
means they're really desperate.In my book, Apple dropped out of
this investment round, like,Nah, we're not going to
participate. And from what Iunderstand, you don't even get
stock. You get some a newconcept called PP, us, which is

(02:02:19):
profit participation units,

Unknown (02:02:23):
not even a warrant,

wow. So when they start to make profit, okay, the
Saudis, the Saudis, of course, Imean, Microsoft is going to put
another billion in in compute.So it's not actually money, you
know, there is

some some time, yes,

some, some, some time. Computer time. Yeah, but
like the old mainframe days.Hey, man,

I'm reminded, since the app you said Apple
dropped out, I have you seenthis commercial where, uh,
promoting, of course, the nonexistent Apple intelligence AI,
where there's a girl, she's at aparty. She looks around the
corner and she sees some guy,oh, and the guy standing there,
she's she knows she recognizeshim from another party from

(02:03:09):
maybe a month ago. So she sheturns around and hides behind a
a wall, and then grabs her phoneand says to the phone, hey, what
was the name of that guy that Imet at that party a month ago?

Unknown (02:03:26):
Yeah,

have you seen this? No, no.

She says, What was the name of the guy at that
party a month ago? This is anApple commercial. Yes, an Apple
commercial. And then the phonecomes back, oh, that's Zach such
and such. No, and she goes intoshe turns around and gets past
the wall, and as a guy comes upto her says, Hey, Zach, how you
doing? He saw I'm surprised youremembered my name. No. And I'm

(02:03:51):
thinking, what bull crap.

Unknown (02:03:54):
Oh, man,
Are they kidding? I guess not.I'm

not the only I've seen this commercial twice now.

I'm looking for it on YouTube. I don't see it

well when you'll see if you watch, well, you
don't watch as much network TVas I do. So you might not

know, just on the on the Apple film, on the Apple
thing, Rob, you have to

be an idiot to believe that this could even
happen.

Robert, who was listening to us on Episode 1698
said I was yelling at my phone.I was yelling at my phone
because you were talking aboutif Apple made that Sarco pod,
you know, the death pod thatthey used in Switzerland, yeah,

(02:04:44):
yeah. The pod, yeah. And he saidthe name, obviously would be
called Die pod, hello. He said,Hello. Not me. He said, The die
the die pod, like, Where wereyou in the troll room? Man,
that's.

That's a good line you would have and you
would have taken credit for it.No, no,

no, no, no, see, I even gave him credit right here.
I can give him credit righthere. I

have one letter to read, since you're bringing
this sort of thing up. This fromproducer Chris. He says, I know
it's probably too late fortoday. Apparently, it's not. But
I wanted to address the CEO ofnorvo novo, Nordisk. Novo
Nordisk stating before Congressthat insurance companies control
drug prices. We talked aboutthis in the last show.

(02:05:30):
Ultimately you say, you couldsay they do, like a grocery
store determines the prices of acan of soup after a sale and
allowing a coupon, but the drugcompanies absolutely control
where the price of a drug entersthe market. Drug companies set
the average wholesale price,AWP, let's say 1000 a month.
Then they sell the drug towholesalers at some price less

(02:05:52):
than that, let's say 700 is thewholesale acquisition caused
whack, which is then inflated abit when selling to pharmacies.
And there are middlemeninvolved. Insurers set their
prices a percentage of the AWP,and going on and on. He says, if
no vote, Nordisk wanted to setthe price of ozempic at 50 bucks
a month, they could theyabsolutely control lowering the

(02:06:15):
AWP, which would cascade throughthe market as much as lower
price, as to a lower price ofthe consumers, saying insurers
are ultimately responsible forthe price of a drug is akin to
saying car dealers areresponsible for the price of a
car and ignoring what their costis to acquire it from the
manufacturer, sir. Chris Good

Unknown (02:06:32):
point, thank you, sir. Chris Good point.

Anyway, I'm just going to double down. Actually,
I have a text group. I got textgroup with the oil baron and my
buddy Vic in Dallas, and useNET. That's IRC, baby. Use net.
What was the other one? What wasthe other something? Fido. Fido

(02:07:01):
net, Fido net, Fido net. We wereon Fido net the other day and,
and I'm like, This AI is goingto collapse. And then, you know,
they're posting back, like, oh,yeah, that's like Steve Ballmer
said no one will want the themobile phone. He's like, gonna
add you to this list. And, okay,okay, they're believers, not

the oil. Yeah, most people are. I tend to
believe you're so far ahead ofthe curve on this that is going
to go a lot farther than youthink. Ah, but

they're having trouble with this round apples.
Apples dropping out already. The

round is ludicrous. They're asking for
too much. But

they need the money to keep it, to keep the scam
going. They have to keep comingout with, oh, did you
strawberry? Oh, it's the lateststrawberries, the best. Go in
and ask chat, GPT strawberries.How many? How many states have
an M in it? They don't come backwith with, you know, like Rhode

(02:08:02):
Island. I mean, it's so it'sstupid. There's no I in the AI.

It's artificial. It has an N in it. Island, an M,
an M, M, Michael, M, M, andRhode Island, okay, yeah. So,
okay,

that's all fine. It's all good. I'm just you're
just not

telling you you're way ahead of the curve on
I agree with you. I know

you do, but I don't think I'm that far ahead of the
curve. I think you're fartherthan you should be. What do you
think it is then you think theycan do another year of this, two
years, two years, two

years into the Trump presidency.

Well, Trump has bought in with, oh, we need all
kinds of Power. Power. Needpower for this. We're going to
have huge data centers, which Idon't know what we're going to
do with them. Well,

what's going to happen after AI collapses and
you have all this extra excessenergy, it's going to be a boon.
It's good. Well,

there's a, I know, edge sword here. It

could be a boon to the economy, because all of
free energy, energy is a bigdeal, but it could also collapse
the whole place. No, we'll

be mining Bitcoin,

Unknown (02:09:14):
at least I will.

I found three clips on election fraud on PBS
that I thought were it's a PBSor NPO, PBS, PBS, PBS that I
thought were fascinating becauseit, it brings up this dominion,
because the idiocy of the wholeidea of Dominion having a
machine that basically fills outthe ballot for you. It acts as a

(02:09:40):
middleman. I think this is themachine I used in Albany. Last
man in the middle. It's a man inthe middle. It's a man in the
middle machine. And it's kind ofstupid, but for some reason,
everyone's using them. And it'slike, yeah,

gee, what? What reason could California have to
be using them? Let me think the.

Let's play these three. These are clips that
they're excessively long but,but I thought were interesting
enough that I could make longclips.

Was that a cue? Yes. What

Unknown (02:10:12):
was pretty obvious primary election day in Bartow
County, Georgia, and electionworkers are conducting a logic
and accuracy test of computersthat stand between voters and
their ballots where
it says Text Size, touch theftand then do big, big.
They
are image cast X ballot markingdevices or BMDS made by Dominion

(02:10:36):
voting systems. Everyone whovotes in person in Georgia uses
one of these touchscreencomputers to record their
choices and then prints a markedpaper ballot, which gets scanned
and tabulated. So are thesemachines worth the added cost
and complexity I advocated forthem. Joseph Kirk is the

(02:10:58):
election supervisor here. Hesays the ballot marking devices
offer advantages over paperballots marked by hand guides
the voter through the process.It makes sure that there's no
question about their intent. Asmall
percentage of selections on handmarked ballots are disqualified
because voters make ambiguousmarkings. Dominion's ballot

(02:11:21):
marking devices may address thatissue, but many election
security experts say they injectstubborn uncertainties into the
voting process. Fundamentally,it's
a problem anytime that you'regoing to put a potentially
vulnerable computer between thevoter and the only records of
their vote. J

(02:11:42):
Alex Halderman is a professor ofElectrical Engineering and
Computer Science at theUniversity of Michigan. He is
among those who advocate forhand marked paper ballots. I
guess it seems ironic that thebest computer scientists in the
world will tell you the besttechnology for an election is
pen and paper. Well, that's

(02:12:03):
that's absolutely right. And thereason for that is we, we know
how paper can be secured. Weknow how digital systems can be
attacked.

Wow, for PBS, that's impressive. Is this. So does
this all stem from the hangingchads? Is that why the computers
were brought into it, or justpurely hanging

chads goes way back, but I think it has to do
with people smudging or, youknow, when they I don't know
what really, I don't. There's noreal reason, as far as I'm
concerned, except, but they dothis, and I'm thinking, and I've
used the machine so I can tellyou what you do. You go in
there, you do the voting on themachine, and then it prints out
the ballot. Yeah. You want

paper with the votes, and you look it over.

You look it over, and the vote you voted for this
guy, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep,yep. And then you stick it in
the you file it, and they thenit counts it. Wait,

wait, don't you stick it in a machine that
counts it? Well, the machine,

yeah. So you stick it in machine accounts,
and it should just count it,yeah. So where do you think
that's it? That's

where. That's where the problem is. Is in the No,

that's what I thought it might be a problem in
the counting machine. This, whenI heard this, this next part,
what, what the real problem isbecause, because you can go back
and make these, you can see whatI did. I voted here and I voted
there, and I had this. Next timeI do this, I'm going to vote by
hand. I'm going to go in andvote. I'm going to take a

(02:13:32):
picture of the ballot, becauseof the little interesting the
gotcha in here.

Are you allowed to take your camera into the
polling booth? I don't think whynot? I don't think you're
allowed. Why not? Well, becauseyou have exactly what you're
saying. Because they don't wantany evidence.

I have seen no signage of any sort saying I
can't have a camera in myprivate little voting booth,
they

have signs it here in Texas where we vote, no
cameras, no guns, which is a bigbummer. Well, the

guns I can see enough to play on a second. Let

me pull all these guns out. No, I don't think you,
I don't think you can use

I see. No, I've never seen such a sign, and I
don't see why it would make adifference. All right, I'll

bill you out. Don't worry. We got you. Thank

you. Thank you. You're a friend. Yeah, I

am friend. We're friends. So we're good friends.
Bail each other out.

You wouldn't at first glance, you know you do
what you just said is what Ilogically would think too. But
no, it turns out there's a moreinteresting way of cheating that
I was like, what the

Unknown (02:14:38):
risks aren't even comparable.
Halderman has spent a lot oftime studying the risks. He is
an expert witness for theplaintiffs in a pending federal
lawsuit seeking an injunctionagainst using the current voting
system. Halderman says he andhis team found nine
vulnerabilities in the Dominionsystem. We met at a law office

(02:14:59):
in Atlanta. In March, he showedme some of what he demonstrated
in open court.
We thought like an attacker,what would an attacker want to
do? How could an attackercircumvent the layers of
protection that are in thismachine and in a real polling
place? Halderman
demonstrated a few seeminglyeasy ways to breach the security

(02:15:21):
of the Dominion ballot markingdevice. He used a pen to recycle
the power which gave himadministrative control of the
computer, and he used a widelyavailable USB device favored by
computer security experts andhackers to rewrite the software
of the machine. All of thismischief could occur without an

(02:15:43):
obvious trace. That's becausethe scanner that tabulates the
votes does not look at the humanreadable text. Instead, it
derives its data from this QRcode.
We can change just the QR codeand leave all of the voter
visible text identical to whatthe voter entered on screen. So

(02:16:03):
as a voter, there's nothing atall that you can see that's
going to indicate there was aproblem. Halderman
and his team worry that thehacks could propagate through an
entire county, or evenstatewide, while the ballot
marking devices are not directlyplugged into the Internet as
they are updated and operated,they regularly exchange data

(02:16:24):
with online systems through USBmemory sticks and smart cards
that
can potentially provide a routefor hackers far away on the
internet to gain access to BMDS.The kinds of attackers that
worry me in this scenarioincludes some of the most
sophisticated adversaries in theworld, foreign governments, gov

and Democrats. Wow. So there's a QR code on your on
your ballot, yeah. Oh, man,that's so that's pretty crazy.

So I thought that was interesting. And of course,
now we have to, you know, youcan Craig give this report
without, like, slamming theRepublicans? Yeah. Got to, yeah.
So they so there's been examplesof corruption in different areas
of the country by both Democratsand Republicans. We've known
this forever. And so they do anexemplification. They defend the

(02:17:22):
machine, and then they exemplifywhat could possibly happen using
a Republican example, which isreally done for the purposes of
showing it could be done, butit's beside the point. NPR or
PBS did its job of making surethey slammed the Republicans in
this matter. But here we go withthe with the final analysis,

Unknown (02:17:42):
we asked dominion for a response. A spokesperson emailed
us this. The claim that someonecould hack an election with a
pen is flatly false. A courtdirective gave Mr. Haldeman as
plaintiff's paid expertunfettered access to system
security features, includingpasswords, security cards,

(02:18:02):
election files and more. Thisdid not take into account the
many layers of physical andoperational safeguards. There is
no evidence that any of theseapparent vulnerabilities have
ever been exploited. Georgia,they

throw out of no evidence. Yeah, that's amazing.
That's good. Okay.

Unknown (02:18:22):
There is no evidence that any of these apparent
vulnerabilities have ever beenexploited. Georgia State
election officials say they arehypothetical scenarios. Almost
all these are mitigated by theprocesses that are put in place
around the election system
itself. Gabe sterling is thechief operating and financial
officer for the Secretary ofState. He says the many layers

(02:18:45):
of people and processessurrounding these machines make
it impossible for a voter toreboot them with a pen or insert
a USB device without beingdetected. So what Alex Haldeman
demonstrated you believe is nota real world scenario. The
computer
experts focus solely, solely,solely on the computer. They

(02:19:06):
focus nothing on votingprocesses and human behavior,
but they don't look at theentirety of how the system
works. The reality of it is, isthere's so many safeguards
around it,
but what if there was an insidejob? This is exactly what
happened in early 2021 in ruralcoffee County Georgia, the
election supervisor and thelocal Chair of the Republican

(02:19:27):
Party invited Trump campaignallies and a data forensics team
into the secure area where theDominion machines and the
election management server arestored. For several days they
copied proprietary software andconfidential data. It is one of
the most infamous securitybreaches in US election history.

Oh God,

Douche (02:19:51):
good job. Good job.

I just want to play a 21 just to show you, PbS
is way of doing business. You. Ihave to play this PBS slant on
gun violence that was yesterday,or, I guess, Friday show. This
is typical of PBS and the factthat there are stooges for the
Democrats. Listen to this. Gun

Unknown (02:20:13):
violence and crime in America are both key issues in
the 2024 campaign as part of ourongoing series about election
year issues are. Lisa Desjardinshas looked into where the
candidates stand, and she joinsus now. It's great to have you
here, Lisa. So let's start withformer President Donald Trump.
He talks often about crimedespite his own felony
convictions. What
kind of reporting is that?Dipshit?

Wow. Lisa changed her voice. Lisa Desjardins is
still around.

Oh yeah, now she takes the anchor job every so
often because I

remember she was sick, so I guess she's, she's
better. I'm happy to hear that.I always kind of liked her until
she went all nutty. She went alittle wacky there for a while.
You remember?

Unknown (02:20:59):
Well, she's, uh, yeah,

she went, Well, I think around the time that
Snowden came out, and she was,

you're talking about the right? The same girl,
Lisa day joy, then the one.She's got a big nose. Yes,
remarkable.

Are we talking about someone else? Didn't she work at
Wired for a while?

No, no, no. She's always been a PBS girl.

Okay, I'm thinking of someone else. Then who was it
was, Oh,

I think you're talking about desjard. Zeni
Zeni.

That's who I'm thinking of, yeah. Zeni, Zeni,
Desjardins, she did

go kind of nutty. Yeah, yeah, no. Lisa desjard.
Dan is a petite Yes, with thebig nine presenter on PBS
newshour Not

to be left out of the election night shenanigans.
Amazon prime will be doing livecoverage since who has, who has
networked live, who has networkl

Michaels doing it. Ah, guess

again, if you were to choose the most trustworthy
name in news and you wanted themto host your election night
coverage on Amazon Prime, whowould you choose? Okay,

so it's got to be somebody that's not working for
the networks, because it's aconflict of interest. Not

anymore. I'll give you a hint. He's he two hints.
He is no longer working for thenetworks.

Yes, I would be right. So you got to say he, so
it could be, what's his name?The guy used to be the anchor in
NBC. Come on.

You're close. You're close. That you might have it. I

think I do have it. I just, for some reason, his
name is eluding me.

No, that doesn't count. That I

it counts for me. I could think of his name, if I
think hard enough,

we're sorry. Brian Williams, yes,

exactly. That's exactly who I was thinking of.
Brian Williams, who's the worstfor this sort of thing.

Isn't that great?

Douche (02:23:00):
Oh, poor guy.

Hey, gotta know that he actually would have been
worse. Would be lower. Oh. MattLauer, when

does he get to come back? There's gonna be a moment
where he's going to make acomeback. There's going to be
gonna have to

because he's getting, you know, money. He's
gonna run out of money. Youknow, he got a golden parachute.
There's no doubt about that. Sohe's, he's living off of his,
you know, what's left? But guyslike that, they're gonna,
they're always gonna spend atthe limit. So it's gonna, they
can't, it can't go on forever.Yeah,

I wonder, I wonder what he's How much must that
suck to be him? I mean, really,

yeah, with the with the locking doors and the
rape,

Unknown (02:23:50):
yeah, all of that

Tina still talks about. I used to, I used to
watch the Today Show, and Iwould, I would love watching.
What's his name, Matt. MattLauer. He said, I love that. And
says, Then I found out he had arate button under his

Unknown (02:24:07):
desk. So

it's gonna take him a little bit longer, but he has
to make a ray entree eventually.

Uh, couple. I just want to mention

one thing before you get to your three more clips,

Tiktok clips. So this a warning in advance. Yes,

the constitutional lawyer Rob he's been doing a
lot. He's been doing some goodwork. They're not even gonna get
to some of the work he's donefor us today. But one of his
buddies from law school, I thinkHouston lawyer Tony Busby, who
he says is a hard ass lawyer, isnow set to represent over 50

(02:24:47):
clients. Yes, in a new this, ina new Diddy lawsuit, which
apparently includes some who areminors.

Yeah, there's a there's a lot of there's been a
lot of hinting. Thing aboutminors? Yeah,

well, we have an inside track. So whenever
there's something going on withthe buzz, the buzz be hopefully
we'll, we'll hear a little bitfrom our constitutional lawyer.
Do we have the best producers inthe universe, or what

it's embarrassingly it's embarrassing
riches. What's the embarrassmentof riches?

Yes, it is.

It's an embarrassment of riches. Nobody
else has this. No,

all right, here we go. John has tick tock clips.
Now

this one. This is a woman who brought this clip,
and she, she, she narrates it,and so and I thought this clip
was kind of oddly. It was oddand offensive, and it hasn't
been going around. It's aboutKwanzaa and Camela. I unearthed
quite the gem

Unknown (02:25:52):
growing up Kwanzaa was always a special time. We came
together with generations offriends and family and
neighbors. There were neverenough chairs. So my sister and
I and the other children wouldoften sit on the floor, and
together we lit the candles ofthe Canara, and then the elders
would talk about how Kwanzaait's a time to celebrate

(02:26:13):
culture, community and family.And they, of course, taught us
about the seven principles. Myfavorite principle was always
the second. Could you tackleself determination? And it is a
deeply American principle, onethat guides me every day as vice
president
to everyone celebrating. We hopeyour week is filled with love

(02:26:36):
and light from our family toyours. Happy
Kwanzaa was invented in 1966 shewas born in 1964 her family did
not celebrate Kwanzaa. I mean,the guy that invented it was a
communist, so maybe

how it's good to hear that again, even without
the tiktokers commentary. What aphony. And was that Doug? Was
that Doug? Yeah, it was Doug theJew. That Happy Kwanzaa. Y'all
Happy Kwanzaa? Wait, please. I

mean, what a liar, yes, yeah,
well, I found that to beoffensive, yes, um, and you're
not even black. I'm not evenblack, and I'm not a Jew. No

that we know of. Here is the,

here is the, I don't know if this guy's
serious. It's one of thosetiktokers that you go. Is this
guy full of crap? Because do wereally want to call babies
babies everyone?

Unknown (02:27:42):
I just wanted to talk today about ways we can use
words. To me, this

is a guy.

Yes, this is a guy.

Unknown (02:27:51):
People feel included in the conversation. One of the
words I see thrown around a lotthat can make people feel left
out is the word mother. It'sbetter if we use the term
birthing people. There are a lotof people that can give birth
that aren't traditional mothers.That includes trans men. Another

(02:28:14):
word that I see just tossedaround is babies. It's much
better if you use a gendernonspecific term for children
that young until they can decidewhat their gender is and pick it
for themselves. So much betterif you can use the term babies
that allows them to haveautonomy, and it allows them to

(02:28:36):
choose their gender instead ofjust assigning it to them at
birth. Another term that I seeused a lot is cervix or womb,
not uterus. It's much better ifyou use a more general term,
like reproductive organs. Sothese are just some really small

(02:28:58):
changes that we can make in ourvernacular that helps people
feel more included in theconversation and not left out.
And it just goes a long way. Soanyways, try making those
changes and let me know how itgoes.

Now, do you ever comment on these videos? Because
I have a comment, since I don'thave an account, isn't the term
baby gender neutral by itself.

It's a baby bring this brings me to a story. Yes,
it is. It's totally neutral. Soon this and this situation that
we're moaning and groaning andbitching about goes back, and in
this case, this will go back tothis story goes back to about
1982 which is what 40 years ago.Oh,

don't remind me.

So back then, there was a I was doing a story
for, I guess this story actuallygoes back to 1986 because that
is the year I was visiting.Boeing and one of the Boeing
guys used to write,

hold on a second.

Unknown (02:30:08):
You can't just do that. Can't do what.

You can't just launch into a story without your
jingle. Hey

Unknown (02:30:14):
everybody,

it's a bonus. Yeah. And it sounds like a story I've
never heard.

I have told a story before in the show, but it
was probably 10 years ago. SoI'm doing this guy, one of the
engineers there who was showingus at the time, Boeing calc also
got a tour of the Everettfacility at the factory. Got the
season. Boeing calc was anoriginal spreadsheet program
that was quite good, likeVisiCalc. It was, it was like

(02:30:53):
more, yes, it was like VisiCalc,and it was quite good. It came
out before the Microsoft tookover the place, but it was, it
was a good product, and they itwas used internally. And so it
was actually a commercialproduct for a year or two. And
in the process, the guy wastelling me that he used to write
for Mac, I'm I'm sorry, PCWorld, which was the competitor

(02:31:18):
to PC Mac, yes, of course. Andhe said that he had turned in
some copy where he said theymentioned specifically, instead
of using congressman orCongresswoman, he used state
representative. And the copyeditor came back at him. He

(02:31:40):
says, no, no, no, you can't dothat. It has to be. It has to
be, or it was a congress person.He said, It has to be a congress
person. He says, why a congressperson? He said. And the copy
editor, who was a woman, said,We We only use gender neutral
terms at the magazine, as

if representative isn't gender neutral,

exactly what he said. He said to her, how is
representative not genderneutral? And she said to him,
and I think this is reflected inthe clip I just played 40 years
later, she said to him, yes,it's true, but we want to make
it we want to make it known tothe reader that we care, that

(02:32:27):
we're using gender, genderneutral terms. So we used person
Congress, person estheticrepresentative. So it's, it's a
form of virtue signaling. It's aform of code, yeah. So you say,
Look, I'm, I'm on your side. Iam. I am this person. I'm a
Democrat. Is what it amounts to,yes. So you have to write, you

(02:32:51):
might as well put I'm a Democratright at the beginning, because
that's what you're doing. Whenyou can't use the word
representative, you have to useCongress person. I was, I've
been offended by that for eversince. I'm glad

you got it off your chest. I don't recall this
story. Yeah, well,

I'll probably tell it again 10 years from now.
I

don't think so, if we have four more years, not 10,
by the way, thank you everybodyfor reminding me and correcting
me that we are in our fifthelection cycle on the show, not
fourth, fifth. We've had five.Wait, am I saying that right
now?

Hold on, yeah. Hold

on. Oh, my got it from here we go. Obama, McCain,
2008 Yes. Obama, Romney, 2012Trump, Clinton, 2016 Trump,
Biden 2020 and we're now in thefifth Trump Biden Harris, 2024
this is our fifth, our fifthtrip around the election cycle.

Yes, that's why we know so much

about about babies, and that's why people come here
to hear about babies fromticktockers. All right, let's do
your last one. Just to

one is not as good as the other two, but it's,
it's, but I thought it was aninteresting it's educationalist,
a food activist who's veryfamous, and they've somebody put
a bunch of her Tiktok stufftogether to tell her. Her
message is that Americancorporations are poisoning what
I believe this is somewhat truepoisoning the American public.
Thank you very much.

Unknown (02:34:24):
Oh, for sure, in the US, there's 11 ingredients. In
the UK, there's three, and saltis optional, an ingredient
called methyl polysiloxane is aningredient preserved with
formaldehyde, a neurotoxin. Thisis Skittles. Notice the long
list of ingredient differences,10 artificial dyes in the US
version and titanium dioxide,this ingredient is banned in

(02:34:47):
Europe because it can cause DNAdamage. Artificial dyes are made
from petroleum, and productscontaining these dyes require a
warning label in Europe, andthey have been linked to cancer
and disruptions in the immunesystem. Hmm. This on the screen
back here, is Gatorade. In theUS, they use red 40 and caramel
color. In Germany, they don't.They use carrot and sweet

(02:35:09):
potatoes to color theirGatorade. This is Doritos. The
US version has three differentartificial dyes and MSG. The UK
version does not General Mills.Is definitely playing some
tricks on us. They launched anew version of tricks just
recently in Australia. It has nodyes. They even advertised that

(02:35:31):
when the US version still does.This is why I became a food
activist. My name is Bonnie Hariand I only want one thing. I
want Americans to be treated thesame way as citizens in other
countries by our own Americancompanies.

Yeah, this was from the Ron Johnson hearing that
your buddy Jillian Michaelsappeared

at the beginning of it starts off at the 11
ingredients versus the three.And that was about McDonald's
french fries.

It's disgusting. It's a really good hearing.
People should take a look at it,because that will save your life
just by not eating this junk.But all of it is just like
advertising gambling, as westarted the show today, that if
you walk in the supermarket.It's, it's just, it's like a
cartoon, like all kinds ofcolors that attract the

(02:36:26):
children, mommy, mommy, mommy, Iwant this one, Mommy. You know,
it's nasty. It

should be illegal.

I don't know why that qualifies as a tick tock
clip. There was just a clip thatyou found on time.

Sorry about it.

Right? I was No, all right, since you offended me
with that, I'm going to offendyou with a clip which is an
illegal clip. It's illegal toplay this clip, illegal by show
standards.

However, it's not Rachel Maddow, is it? No,

it's not a felony, it's just it's a misdemeanor,
although it's close to felony.But the W carry, yes, W, E, F,
the World Economic Forum has ahas a summer session, and this
was about the sustainabledevelop development goals. All a

(02:37:20):
part of climate week. And thisshould anybody who was thinking
of voting for, I would just sayKamala Harris should rethink it,
because this is the generalthinking of the elites in the
Democrat Party. And John Kerryis, without a doubt, one of the

(02:37:44):
elites he has married into theHeinz fortune. He you know, he's
a douchebag. He's an incrediblepatrician with a very big
watermelon sized head. Butlisten to what he thinks about
the First Amendment and theright to say whatever you want
to say. And I will precede thisclip by saying the terms

(02:38:08):
misinformation, disinformation,Mal, information is all bull
crap. There is information. It'sjust information. Everything I'm
sure that has a technical termin language. When you put
something in front of it, whatis that called?

Unknown (02:38:25):
The prefix? Is that called

a prefix? Yeah. And on top of that, there are no
secrets, only information youdon't yet have. So it's only
information. But this is thekind of thinking that goes on in
the upper elitist echelons ofthe Democrat party as it is
today,

Unknown (02:38:46):
the dislike of and anguish over social media is
just growing and growing andgrowing as part of our problem,
particularly in democracies, Interms of building consensus
around any issue. It's reallyhard to govern today. You can't,
you know, there's no thereferees we used to have to

(02:39:09):
determine what's a fact and whatisn't a fact that kind of been
eviscerated.

You have to back it up. And when you hear the
word referee, replace it in yourmind with gatekeeper? Yeah,

and by the way, it's so hard to govern these days

Unknown (02:39:29):
in terms of building consensus around any issue. It's
really hard to govern today. Youcan't, you know, there's no the
referees we used to have todetermine what's a fact and what
isn't a fact that kind of beeneviscerated to a certain degree,
and people go and that peopleself select where they go for

(02:39:51):
their news or for theirinformation, and then you just
get into a vicious cycle, yeah,especially podcasts. So it's
really, really hard, muchharder, to build consent.
Instance, today that at any timein the 4550 years I've been
involved in this and and, youknow, there's a lot of
discussion now about how youcurb those entities in order to

(02:40:13):
guarantee that you're going tohave, you know, some
accountability on facts, etc.But look, if people go to only
one source, and the source theygo to is sick and, you know, has
an agenda, and they're puttingout disinformation. Our first
amendment stands as a majorblock to the ability to be able

(02:40:33):
to just, you know, hammer it outof existence. So what you need,
we need is to, is to win theground, win the right to govern
by hopefully having winningenough votes that you're free to
be able to to implement change.Now, obviously, there are some

(02:40:53):
people in our country who areprepared to implement change in
other ways.
Is that unbelievable? Or what?

You know, he, I think he caught himself and he
tried to beat around the bush,because after he talked about
the First Amendment being animpediment,

What a nuisance that thing was a nuisance,

an impediment. He, he kind of, it must have
went right through his brain.Oh, you dumb shithead. You said
the wrong thing here. Now, tryto get out of it, because he
seemed to be fishing after that.Yeah, I saw that.

I just found this. I found it incredible, incredible
paint. And that's the thinking,you know, just this first
amendment is annoying and peopleand we don't have any more
referees. We need referees likeBrian Williams, good referees.
All right, have to play this.Since we do have a a an

(02:41:59):
appearance in our end of showmixes, the mayor is back. Yes,
yay. Very excited to have themayor back on the show. You.
Thank you, Mayor Sir. MichaelAnthony. Mayor Adams and I have
two clips here. The first is alittle background. You know,

I sorry, I call him Mark Anthony in the last No,
it's

sir, Michael Anthony. Have a little update
here on from CBS on the latestwith Maya Adams,

Unknown (02:42:27):
fortunate day,
and it's a painful day. New YorkCity Mayor Eric Adams asked New
Yorkers to reserve judgmentshortly after a federal
indictment was unsealed accusinghim of engaging in a long
running conspiracy involvingillegal campaign contributions
charges, he denies the fivecount indictment includes

(02:42:50):
charges of bribery, wire fraudand two charges relating to
receiving campaign contributionsfrom foreign nationals. Sum up,
federal prosecutors say Adamsaccepted more than $100,000 in
luxury travel benefits fromTurkish officials in exchange
for favors. In one instance,they say Adams pressured the New
York City Fire Department to letTurkey open a new diplomatic

(02:43:12):
building here despite safetyconcerns,
the Turkish official got
what he wanted, and as weexplained in the indictment,
just four days after Adams heldup his end of the bargain, he
went right back to solicitingmore travel benefits from the
Turkish airline. This is justone of at least four federal
investigations into Adams or hisinner circle. At least three

(02:43:34):
high ranking city employees havealready resigned in recent
weeks. This is unprecedented.Their CBS News legal contributor
Caroline polici says prosecutorsmust think they have a strong
case to indict the sittingmayor, a first in city history.
You
have to believe that prosecutorsfeel that they can not only
convict Mayor Adams at trial,but sustain that conviction.

(02:43:56):
Adams
has vowed to remain in officewhile he fights the charges,

so the show. Consensus on this, which you
reminded of us on the lastepisode, is this is entirely
because he started complainingabout the illegal immigrants,
I'm sorry, the newcomersflooding New York City, and he
went against the Biden Harrisadministration, and that this is

(02:44:21):
retaliation. Well, son of a gun,wouldn't you know it? I

Unknown (02:44:26):
will say this I watched about a year ago when he talked
about how the illegal migrantsare hurting our city, and the
federal government should payus, and we shouldn't have to
take him. And I said, You knowwhat? He'll be indicted within a
year, and I was exactly right,because that's what we have. We
have people that use the JusticeDepartment and the FBI at levels

(02:44:53):
that have never been seenbefore. So I wish him luck. I
don't know anything about whathe did, but I told a lot. A
group, a lot of people rightover there. That group was
saying, you know, so you wereright about that. When they
mentioned that, I said they camein, and he was pretty strong
about it. He said, This isreally unfair to make us carry

(02:45:13):
this burden. We shouldn't bedoing this. This is New York
City. I mean, your parks areloaded up. I just passed
recently, Madison Avenue, theRoosevelt Hotel. It's like
nobody would recognize it.That's Midtown, but he came out
very strongly against it. He wasright, by the way, because it's
ruining our country. He washonest. And I said he will be

(02:45:35):
indicted within a year, andthat's what happened. And I
noticed the indictment is veryold. This goes back a long time,
so I wish him well, but I saidthat he will be indicted because
he did that. You take a look.That's what they do. These are
dirty players. These are badpeople. They cheat and they do
anything necessary. These arebad people, and we need an

(02:45:56):
honest Justice Department. Weneed an honest FBI, and we need
it fast, boom,
Deep Dive.

I have a I have another PBS version of the up of
the mayor being indicted. If youwant to play it, it's only 33
seconds. It sums things up alittle bit. I think your clips
are better, but I want to getthis one played anyway. Also

Unknown (02:46:19):
today, New York Mayor Eric Adams pleaded not guilty to
bribery and other charges infederal court. He's accused of
accepting illegal campaigncontributions and gifts from
Turkish nationals in exchangefor using his position to help
Turkey's interests. Adams didnot speak on his way into the
Manhattan courthouse, butflashed a thumbs up to the
crowd. His lawyer said he willfile a motion next week to

(02:46:42):
request that the charges bedismissed. Adams was released
after the hearing. He has saidhe won't resign and will
continue to conduct citybusiness as usual.

The Department of Justice, man, they are against
the American people. No matterwho you are, they are
weaponized.

They have an agenda, and if you don't follow
it, you're screwed. And part offollowing it is accepting a
bunch of illegal aliens,criminals, and who knows, who
else into the country and likingit. Did

you see Massey grilling the inspector general
Horowitz, who is the InspectorGeneral for the FBI.

I don't think I did. Oh, so

mass have it? Yeah, I do. Massey, whose wife, just
passed away, you know, suddenly.And this guy, I think he's, he
already was just like, I'm gonnasay whatever. I think he's just
flat out everywhere now, like,nope, nope. He's going against
the Republic. I

think he believes his wife was murdered. I

wouldn't put it past people. You know, once he went
on Tucker Carlson and said awhole bunch of things, all of a
sudden, she died. Suddenly.Yeah, horrible. So here he is.
This is about January 6. He'sspecifically interested in
footage of the pipe bomber whoput the pipe bomb down at the

(02:48:07):
DNC, which we've seen. Thisfootage, I think it's on
YouTube. You've seen it, right?Oh, yeah, but no, no, no, no,
no.

Unknown (02:48:19):
We've got a failed FBI, failed investigation of the
January 6 pipe bomb. Are youlooking into that at all?
We've had discussion. I knowCongressman about it, and we
have followed up, and I canspeak to you about that. Mean
they keep saying it's ongoinginvestigation, but they've got
no leads, no suspects. They'velost information. They've lost

(02:48:40):
evidence. They can't findevidence. Secret Service deleted
all of its texts on January 6.Steve dantwan, oh, the guy in
charge Washington, DC fieldoffice says that the cell phone
data that would could have beenused to find the bomber was
corrupted. And now we just foundout. I found out from an from
another Inspector General, and Iwant to submit this for the

(02:49:01):
record. Yeah, he I asked him, Doyou have the footage? The video
footage? Does the FBI have thevideo footage of the DNC on
January 6? And he tells me, whenhe asked the FBI for the video
footage, they don't even havevideo footage of the DNC that we
know was created on January 6.It's almost, I mean, so it's

(02:49:23):
almost as if they don't want toknow. Can you rule out that
there were any confidentialhuman sources involved in the
whole pipe bomb thing on January6? I'm
not. I'd have to go backcongressman and refresh myself
on what we've information we'vegathered to date on that I don't
know as I sit here, okay, thatwould be a huge revelation, and
happy to come.

(02:49:44):
I think we should get that andget it public before the
election. I yield back,

they deleted text messages because that's what you
do, yeah, if you're HillaryClinton against

the law to do that, but they do it anyway.
Yeah? Well, I have one lastlittle clip here that might be
interesting. This is 13 seconds.It's not much, but this is just
because they keep talking aboutnow. Now you know they don't
want to ban gas stoves. I don'tknow where you get that from.

(02:50:19):
This is Newsom.

Unknown (02:50:23):
California's Governor Gavin Newsom has vetoed a bill
that would have required tobaccostyle health warnings on gas
stoves. It's a setback forclimate and public health
advocates to encourage the shiftto all electric home appliances.

We have all electric in Washington state, in
our area, it sucks.

Unknown (02:50:44):
I'm gonna show my food by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who coulddo that. Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
All right.

Everybody remember, we do have John SIPP the day
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well, I liked it better than what you've been
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guide on the website as well, wewill send you some wax to seal
your important correspondence,and in addition to that, a
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supporting the best podcast inthe universe. You

(03:02:04):
Yeah, you bet it's like a party.All of these meetups are just
like parties, even if it's justtwo nights in a bottle, which is
exactly who showed up for theEdinburgh meetup. Oops. Hi
there. This

Unknown (03:02:15):
is sort of Canada.
We are two nights in the bottle.It's literally two
nights on the
bottle, representing no genderin the morning.

Two nights in a bottle works for me. Good work.
Gentlemen. Thank you very muchfor doing that and for sending
in the report. Tri CitiesWashington had their very first
meet up, and hence their veryfirst meetup report in the
morning.

Unknown (03:02:41):
Everybody. This is Aaron from tri city. Just want
to say that we had a wonderful,successful, first ever Columbia
River Basin meetup here in theTri Cities. Hope to see some
people coming out next timelooks like we're going to do
another meetup in November.Thank you for your courage.
Steve from Kennewick, hereWashington has the most
producers per capita thananywhere in the nation

(03:03:02):
we did the work.
This is Trevor checking in fromMoses Lake, just coming out for
the first time. Having a goodold time with some no agenda,
listeners, producers, I mean,looking to have more fun with
these guys in the future.
Hi, Dame
Janice of the bombing range.This is so much fun
in the morning. Bye in

(03:03:23):
the morning, Adam and John siryogi. Night of the Carnival
Midway is here. He's
out 50 more dollars, and
I'll be sir silent ice cream.Just got to get around to it. We
had a lot of cider. See youlater
in the morning. In the

morning, I would say, a very successful inaugural
meetup. These are the things youwant to go to to meet your no
agenda nation, boys and girls,friends, children from other
lands, you may have nothing incommon except the show, and
that's why you will love beingthere. You will connect, and
that connection always bringsprotection. Today, the Don't be

(03:03:59):
a douchebag. Meetup kicks off at530 at McNally south in Tulsa,
Oklahoma. We have on Monday Oh,a rare Monday meetup, the almost
October surprise. 730 at theacoustic grill, Prince Edward,
Ontario, Canada. Next showtoday, Thursday, the North
Georgia monthly hurricanemeetup. Makeup meetup. Six

(03:04:19):
o'clock at Legends distillery incoming north Georgia, and also
on Thursday, the yard sign preelection meet up 630 at
Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver,Colorado. Many more meetups to
be found at no agendameetups.com By the way, I have a
note, a production note herethat the no agenda meetups.com
page is having some issue, sir,Daniel, who set that up for us,

(03:04:43):
is working on it. Mimi says itwill be fixed, and she's putting
up as much info as needed. She'sworking very hard on getting
making sure everything's upthere and accurate, and we
appreciate that. No agendameetups.com. If you can't find
one near you, start. Yourself iseasy and always a party.

Unknown (03:05:03):
Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights
and days. It's like a party.

It's like a party. Go visit one. You won't be
disappointed. I promise you itis fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, till
your daddy takes the T birdaway. I only have one ISO, so
let's start with yours.

Unknown (03:05:35):
Well, start with yours.
I will cripple you.

All right. I got three I had, starting in order
of quality, sexy,

Unknown (03:05:48):
eat that was sold so sexy. Let me hear that again.
Eat that was sold so sexy. Allright,

how about go home? The

Unknown (03:05:58):
show is over. Now, go home. I
like that a lot. I

like that a lot.

Yeah, you might like this one best best podcast
ever.

We have a winner, ladies and gentlemen, best
podcast ever. And now it's timefor the famous moment. John C's
Tip of the day and sometimes,

Unknown (03:06:20):
JC, and sometimes Adam,

I'm excited. Everybody's excited. We're
always all excited to find out

about the tip. Well, this is a food tip, a food
tip. I thought I'd bring it out,because this is something I do.
There's a there's been recently,because the avocados mostly come
from California and Mexico,yeah. But in some parts of the
country, in fact, most of theparts, there's a huge boom in
Peruvian avocados. Are they nogood? No, they're better than

(03:06:49):
the other ones. Oh, and let meexplain a Peruvian avocado, and
they come in and says, you'llsee it on the they always say,
where the origin of country oforigin is. And if you see a pile
of Peruvian avocados, what Ihave to do with the reason for
this. This tip is, how do theyripen? How would you tell
they're not like a normal Haasavocado? Most people in

(03:07:14):
California and elsewhere, youcan tell how ripe and ready an
avocado is by kind of a firmnessgroup. Grab. Yeah,

Unknown (03:07:21):
yeah. I

grab. I squeeze a little, and that kind of gives
me the idea if it's ripe or not,if it's if it's overripe.
Usually I get three avocados. Iget one for that dinner that
day, and then I'll get one forthe next day and one for the
next day. So I do take firmnessinto account

now with the Peruvian avocado, the firmness
is it's always harder than anormal avocado. It and if it go,
if you feel softness, it's overthe hill. So you say to
yourself, well, then how thehell would I know this is the
right it's right. But how wouldI tell I

Unknown (03:07:58):
tell John

the color of the skin of a Peruvian avocado,
which is kind of a greenish likeall the red, it looks just like
a regular avocado when it turnssolid black, and the avocado is
still firm, that avocado isready, and it's spectacular.

And how do we know it's a Peruvian avocado? It'll
say,

there's not a store in the world that won't
put the country of origin, whereit says Mrs. Avocados, 59 cents
or whatever. It'll say countryof origin, Peru. It'll say,
there they I think most statesrequire you country of origin.

So how about the avocado? I want to be ripe in
two days, when it's from Peru,it'll be black and it'll

be it'll be black with some green. Oh, so it's a
color identifier as total color.It goes from super green to
black splotches to pretty,almost all black with a little
green, to all black. And there'sabout a two or three day window
and it's all black and it'sstill hard, boom,

yeah, we prefer avocado of color here on the
show. Excellent tip everybody.Hey

Unknown (03:09:10):
guys.
Show us your tips.
There we go.

Anyway. Check out Peruvian avocados if you ever
see them. No, I like it. That'sgood. It's

good. Good word. And that does it for Episode 1699,
1700 on Thursday, everybody 1700we'll send out a newsletter to

remind 1800 everyone should donate and sing,
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and we have Canary Cry, news talk coming up next on
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Boys, go figure. End of show.Mixes, we have. Down guy, Steve
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(03:10:04):
Anthony returns to the end ofshow mixes. We could not be
happier coming to you from theheart of the Texas Hill Country,
right here in Fredericksburg. Wegot a meet up on October 18 in
the morning. Everybody. I'm Adam

curry, and from Northern Silicon Valley, where
it's cold, I'm John C Dvorak. Wereturn

on Thursday, where people are having meetups, and
we'll be celebrating episode1700 remember us at no agenda,
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Unknown (03:10:36):
concern about rising temperatures on planet Earth
heated up a hearing here inWashington today,
this morning, record breakingheat spreading across more of
the US. You should
know what happens to your bodywhen it exposes itself to
extreme heat? First, your bodyattempts thermal regulation by
moving blood flow outward towardthe surface of the skin. The

(03:10:58):
heart rate quickens. Bloodvessels dilate to release heat,
the skin becomes flush, thenyour body begins to sweat.
Let's see how long it takes whenyou start sweating, because
after all, it's not heat. Seehumidity
if it's really hot, especiallyif it's hot and humid, these
thermal regulation systems thatwe've developed won't be enough.

(03:11:19):
The heart will continue to befast, putting strain on
cardiovascular systems. The skinwill continue to sweat,
depleting your body of water andessential electrolytes.
Many scientists claim that thetemperature of
the Earth's atmosphere has beenrising over the past 100 years.
The truth is, the
crisis is still getting worse.
Excessive sweating will cause animbalance of fluids and salts in

(03:11:40):
the human system. With rising
temperatures, the threat ofinfectious diseases
will increase.
It's warmer than I like.
Your body's core temperaturerises rapidly. Your body reaches
the threshold for heat stroke.There is irreversible damage to
cells in vital organs, andusually,
you might die. I think it's veryimportant for us at every moment

(03:12:05):
in time, and certainly this one,to see the moment you

(03:12:28):
we love our country. We are anoptimistic people. We are an
optimistic people. I love ourcountry. I know we all do.
That's why everybody's hereright now. We
love our country.
Let's come together. Let's cometogether. Let's come together.

(03:12:49):
Let's
come together.
We take pride in the privilegeof being American. Let's come
together. Let's come together.Come together. You.
What's up, New York City, thisis your mail, at least for now.

(03:13:10):
As you all already heard, I'vebeen indicted for corruption and
bribery. The feds is trying totake down me and my whole
chocolate mafia all because Isaid, yo Joe, close the border.
Yo otherwise, y'all know Iwoulda got away with it anyway.
I got one word for all y'alltalking about, step down.

(03:13:31):
Jumanji. If y'all get rid of me,your instrument may off and it
be public advocate. Jumanji,Williams. Jumanji, and straight
up socialist. He anti police,and he want to be the mayor. So
you tell Kathy Hochul, you tellAOC, you tell Jumanji, you stand
by Mayor Eric Adams, and ify'all don't got my back, maybe

(03:13:56):
I'll just go maggot somebody.Please love me.
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