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No Agenda Episode 1707 - "Sweet Seventeen"

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John C Dvorak (00:00):
And they've literally scared their own pants

(00:03):
off.

Unknown (00:04):
Adam curry. John C Dvorak,

Adam Curry (00:07):
2024 this your award winning Cuba nation. Media
assassination episode 1707

Unknown (00:13):
this is no agenda,

Adam Curry (00:16):
celebrating 17 years and broadcasting live from the
heart of the Texas Hill Country,right here in FEMA Region,
number six in the morning,everybody. I'm Adam curry,

John C Dvorak (00:26):
and from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all
asking the same question, Whatthe hell is the appeal of Snoop
Dogg? I'm John C Dvorak. It's

Unknown (00:35):
crack bottom Buzzkill. In the morning,

Adam Curry (00:39):
I was asking that throughout the entire Olympics,
like, what is the appeal ofSnoop Dogg? And people love him,
somehow. Who a Snoop Dogg? His

John C Dvorak (00:48):
agent for sure.

Adam Curry (00:49):
Yeah, there you go. Oh boy, yes. It's time to roll
out the big horns, like we dofrom time to time. 17 years
congratulations, John,

John C Dvorak (01:04):
congratulations to you.

Adam Curry (01:06):
Listen to these numbers. Yeah, we did we we're
still alive. We're still here.Seven so it's 17 years. Episode
1707 on october 27 that's a lotof sevens.

John C Dvorak (01:20):
Ah, sevens. New number

Adam Curry (01:21):
has very, very good numbers. Very good numbers.
Yeah. So what do you say? Fourmore years?

John C Dvorak (01:28):
Four more years, four more years.

Adam Curry (01:31):
I think we make it to 20 if one of us hasn't died
by then, 21 years has got to beenough of this. You never know
well, and right before the nextelection, right before,

John C Dvorak (01:45):
right before it, yeah, which should be a whopper.
Yeah,

Adam Curry (01:51):
yeah. No kidding, yeah. That was nice to see Joe
uh. Showed everybody thatpodcasting is kind of important.

Unknown (02:01):
I like that,

John C Dvorak (02:04):
yeah, yeah. It shows that also Trump can talk
forever.

Adam Curry (02:08):
Ah, the weave.

John C Dvorak (02:10):
What's beyond the weave? I've no, I noticed a
couple of things. He Yeah. I wasreminded of Jim Rohn. I talked
about Jim Rome and his sportstalk show a number of times in
the past, because there areelements of what he does. It was
a somewhat revolutionaryalthough Rush Limbaugh is the

(02:31):
main guy. In other words, a guygoes on the air and talks for
three hours. Man a call maybe,and Rome would talk with, if he
was going to talk about a topic,he would repeat the topic three
or four times from differentperspectives, in the same or
with different intonations. Iwould just keep going that way.

(02:54):
And he would do that throughoutfor three hours. Trump, he was
right at the beginning. He'sgoing on about something, and he
just and he comes back to it,and he comes back to it, and he
comes back to it. I have to saythat after listening to Brogan
in this context, I I put him inas a good cop, police
interrogator. Uh huh, yeah.Excellent interviewer. Over the

(03:19):
years, he's become one, and hemanaged to, without being a
jerk, yeah, push Trump rightback onto the track that he
wanted to hear about because hehad interests that he wanted to
hear about aliens. JFK, he putany and he would push Trump back
again, Trump, because Trumproams around like he'll come
around to some of the old story.

Adam Curry (03:41):
Look at this chart. He had handouts

John C Dvorak (03:46):
so and I got no clips from it, because, for one
thing, it was boring, I thought,because there's nothing new to
us. And if

Adam Curry (03:56):
anything, I think it just showed Trump's personality
and willingness to just sit andhave a chat for three hours. And
that was really what made itfantastic. I mean, that that's
what made it great, because, andwe know that in the past, calls
have come in from Ivanka andfrom Eric and what's the other

(04:16):
one? Don Jr, like, yeah, yeah.Really, I want to, want to have
dad on the show, but you got tocome to mar a Lago. And I think,
you know, Rose, Joe was like,No, I gotta go to mar a Lago.
Come here, and there'd be notime restriction. And I think
that's really, that's really thewin here for Joe and for Trump,
because it he was, it was acall.

John C Dvorak (04:38):
There's Joe will never have to go anywhere if
Trump, all people, Trump exactlyhad to go there, that means
everybody has to go so. So thatwas a super win for for Joe,
because he doesn't, obviouslylike to go in the remote. Of

(04:59):
course not. Why bother and sonow he's got it made, but I I
have clips from, I thought wasat the same time that was going
on, Tucker was interviewingAmaryllis Kennedy.

Adam Curry (05:14):
Oh, she's the the CIA daughter in law, yes,

John C Dvorak (05:19):
married to RFJ,

Unknown (05:22):
the third. RFJ,

John C Dvorak (05:25):
RF your. RFK, RFK, RF, l, whatever letter.
RFK, the third. She's married,and she and you could, I, I
don't know. We can run theseclips later if you want. But
well, she Yeah. Go ahead. Shewent on for an hour, two and a
half hours, and unfortunately,it was like about an hour of

(05:48):
content because she was, youcould tell, you don't know if
she's still a spook or becauseshe was, you could tell she was
very cautious. She was not usedto doing this. I've never seen
her before. I've never seen herand she was, she was very
measured in what she said abouteverything, but she said a lot,
and there's a lot of insidestuff that she brought out.

(06:10):
Well,

Adam Curry (06:10):
I do want to talk about that. I just want to stick
with with Texas for a moment.And now I'm going to bring, I'm
going to weave it around to you,John, and weave Good luck. I'm
going to weave it around to you.So what was fascinating about a
lot of the this Rogan thing, Ithink JD Vance was on Theo
Vaughn, which I haven't seen it.People said that was quite
entertaining, and that JD Vancecame off very, very good. So

(06:34):
then we dance,

John C Dvorak (06:35):
is it better? Is better than Trump? I think,

Adam Curry (06:38):
yeah, yes. Well, he's the translator, you know,
that

John C Dvorak (06:44):
looked a little more mature, kind of weird.

Adam Curry (06:49):
So the big thing that everybody was waiting for
here in Texas, a little furtherup the street in Houston, was,
once again, the psyop played outby the mainstream media on
people who love Kamala, we havesome

Unknown (07:04):
big news to share for the Harris campaign. Be hive,
none other than Beyonce, willappear with Vice President
Harris tomorrow in Texas forlearning and NBC. Aaron
Gilchrist is covering the Harriscampaign today from Georgia,
where she's set to appear withBruce Springsteen, Aaron the
boss today. Queen Bee tomorrow.What more do we know? Queen Bee

(07:26):
tomorrow?
You know this is news that a lotof people have been waiting to
hear whether or how Beyoncemight show her support for
former for vice presidentHarris. And we have learned from
three sources our team has thatBeyonce will appear with Vice
President Harris tomorrow inHouston, Texas, and the source
says that Beyonce will performduring that appearance in Texas,

(07:48):
obviously, where she's from. So

Adam Curry (07:50):
again, the oh, she's going to perform. And of course,
she did not perform. She did notperform. And I think a lot of
people were disappointed. Once

John C Dvorak (07:58):
again, Boeing, Kamala, they were booing, they
were leaving, and some peoplehad to wait at 10 hours.
Supposedly, this could be bullcrap, but I don't I can believe
that they would just 10 hoursfor a free concert. Yes,

Adam Curry (08:11):
yes. And then Beyonce comes up on stage and
and talks about how she's amother. She's here, not as a
celebrity. Pay no attention tothe outfit, to my entree. I'm
not a celebrity. I'm here as amother.

Unknown (08:28):
It's impossible not to feel the energy in this room,
the positivity,
the community, the humanity,humanity.
We are at the precipice of anincredible shift, the brink of
history.

(08:48):
I'm not here as a celebrity,
I'm not here as a politician.I'm here as a mother.

Adam Curry (08:55):
Oh, listen to what she says. Listen to what she
says. She's here as a mother.

Unknown (09:00):
I'm here as a mother,
a mother who cares deeply
about the world. My children
and all of our children live
in a world where we have thefreedom to control
our bodies.

Adam Curry (09:17):
I'm here as a mother to kill your baby. That's what
I'm here for. That's who I am.I'm Beyonce. Here is a mother
right away, right away. That'sall that they have now, is

John C Dvorak (09:30):
no, they have two things, no. Well, Trump

Adam Curry (09:32):
is Hitler and kill babies. And so here's the short
one. So Trump is in in Texas,and here's your typical report.
And former President

Unknown (09:44):
Trump also made a stop in Texas yesterday while
speaking in Austin. He comparedBiden Harris border policies to
garbage
like a garbage can, like agarbage can. First time I said
it was last night. It wasamazing speech in Las Vegas,
29,000 And people that arena. Weset the arena record. That was a

(10:04):
big deal. Arena too. We set therecord, but it was an amazing
crowd. The first time I eversaid, I said it, I don't know,
just came out like a garbage canfor the rest of the world. Trump
also appeared on the popularpodcast the Joe Rogan
experience. He then left for arally in Traverse City,
Michigan. The former presidentwill be in New York City on

(10:25):
Sunday for a rally at MadisonSquare Garden.

Adam Curry (10:28):
I see Kyle. He's going to Madison Square Garden
tonight. And of course, theyshowed a picture of Joe, like,
you know, one of those, his eyesall popping out. Oh, that's,
let's get the worst photo of

John C Dvorak (10:37):
Joe. Pop that's what you do,

Adam Curry (10:41):
in a way, though, in an in an interesting way, it was
kind of revealing for YouTube,because I think Joe texts me
like, 10 o'clock Friday night,and I'm like, is it up already?
So now it's been up for an hour,and so then I look at it and has
a million views. It's a threehour show. How can it have a

(11:03):
million views in one hour?

John C Dvorak (11:06):
06, okay, it can't. It can't. So,

Adam Curry (11:08):
you know, obviously, all right, so how, how many
seconds are you countingYouTube? Anyway, I think it's up
to 30 million now, and that'sjust YouTube. The the, oh, we
were combating people piratingthis feed on the index. We had
to last night, like, ah, there'sanother person who's tried to
get it in there and was tryingto steal Joe's juice. So it's

(11:34):
quite the that's what you do.Yes, what? Just quite the
podcast. Quite the podcast. Allright, so I now I think we
should listen to the spook.Well,

John C Dvorak (11:42):
there was some other comment I wanted to make
about what you were going onabout the going on about, yeah,
what's your name showing up andthen not doing any performance.
Oh, yeah. Willie Nelson ended upbeing the performer. Did you
know that by I left that out ofmost

Adam Curry (11:58):
reports? No. I mean, I saw spring scene from the
night before. And I don't know,I, I wanted to clip it like,
this has to be, this has to bedoctored. It was so bad. He did
Dancing in the Dark acoustic,and it sounded so off and awful.

John C Dvorak (12:14):
I believe it.

Adam Curry (12:16):
I don't know. I mean, it's like, is that really,
Bruce? I didn't want to clip itfor fear of you

John C Dvorak (12:21):
know, yeah, looking like a suckered Yeah,

Adam Curry (12:24):
but it didn't sound good. Well,

John C Dvorak (12:26):
Willie Nelson was the guy who ended up performing
instead of Beyonce, and theyshowed picture. He's 91 go,
Willie. He looks like hell, ofcourse. But then again, he's
always looked like hell, sothere's no big deal, yeah, and
yeah, he was the head. It wasthe head. Can you imagine, you
want to see Beyonce and you endup watching, having to watch

(12:47):
Willie Nelson.

Adam Curry (12:48):
Nothing, nothing derogatory about Willie Nelson.
But yeah, that that's likedifferent audience to me, even
Bruce Springsteen, these kidsdon't want, I mean, it's just
no, no, I don't know. This isprobably Laureen Powell Jobs
like, yeah, I can make a call toBruce, I can make a call to
Willie. Can't make a call toQueen B, though can't make her

(13:10):
perform. She's not crazy,

John C Dvorak (13:13):
no, and she's not going to do a cappella or
anything. Yeah, went

Adam Curry (13:17):
for B, stayed for Willie. No, left, probably left
at Willie. Anyway, all right, so

John C Dvorak (13:22):
Amaryllis comes on, Tucker now.

Adam Curry (13:25):
Now we've played clips of her talking about her
spook, spook career at the CIA.I can't quite remember, but
there was something like the oldguard was She's the new guard
and and the old guard was kindof chiding her. Do you remember
any of this? Not, not really,okay, all right,

John C Dvorak (13:46):
but I'll say a couple of things about her. She
looks like a spook. She's gotthat girl look, you know, the
one that goes into the field.She was a fake art collect our
dealer, and she was

Adam Curry (13:59):
good. That was her kind of

John C Dvorak (14:02):
No. Uncover. It's called an uncovered spy, I
think, where she wasn't workingfor the, you know, she wasn't in
as a diplomat or anything at

Adam Curry (14:11):
the right so it's not registered, is what we say.
She's not registered. You're

John C Dvorak (14:15):
just a real free you're a real out there, real
spook, yes, real spook. And shewas, you know, mostly in Europe,
I think in Asia and but shenever went to South America. She
does talk about it, though. Now,the clips I have are very
specific ones about certainthings. One is the first two
clips. And unfortunately, thefirst clip is a setup for the

(14:37):
second clip. And these are longclips, all of them, because
again, and I cut out all thepregnant pauses I could Good,
good work. It's still too long.She's still, you just hear her
grinding the gears about, can Isay this? Can I say this? Can I
say this? She's got her spookfilters up the. Way up. Yeah.

(15:01):
And Tucker is good at trying toget her to talk as much she can.
And she does bring out. Andthere's really these three clips
which amount to about sixminutes of material. Really
bring out two. Two very, Ithought, two very interesting
points. Hold

Adam Curry (15:15):
on one sec. I only see two. You have three.

John C Dvorak (15:18):
It should be Amaryllis on classification. And
Amaryllis on media corruption?

Adam Curry (15:25):
No, I do not have that. I don't have her on media
corruption.

John C Dvorak (15:30):
Well, they're all set in the same batch. Well,

Adam Curry (15:33):
I'll double check the batches while we start, if
we can start with the otherones, you need to start with
media corruption.

John C Dvorak (15:39):
No, no. Media corruption is last Okay, all
right, I'll check. So she'sthey're talking about, and I
broke into it about halfwaythrough the discussion of over
because they're talking aboutbringing out the Kennedy docs
and some of these other things.And so the discussing the over
classification, which is adiscussion topic of, I don't
know. I know way before thisshow ever began, it was always

(16:01):
being discussed. Oh, they'reover classifying. They're over
classifying. And she brings outsome reasonable an explanation
for some of it, but it's in cliptoo. But let's listen to her,
her setup. And here we go. Idon't understand

Unknown (16:15):
the justification for that, and I don't know why
nobody demands, like, want todeclassify it. Like, why
shouldn't it's our country. Allthese people died. We should
know,
right? And I agree entirely. AndI agree. I mean, the same
applies for the 60s. I thinkultimately, you know, when most
Americans go to work for a thirdof their working week, they are

(16:37):
working for the government.They're working they're taking
that money having spent the dayaway from their family,
sacrificing whatever they wouldprefer to be doing, and they
don't get to keep any of it.They turn it all over to the
government. The government worksfor the people directly. I mean,
they are directly paid by thepeople. And if your boss asks
what you've been doing and youknow, you say, sorry, I can't

(17:00):
tell you. It's classified. Itdoesn't cut it, you know. And
you know, are there? Are theremoments where you know the
actual identity of a sourcewho's, you know, preventing
nuclear war with the Russians isat stake, sure, but they're
actually quite few and farbetween. And, you know, I think

(17:21):
there is a bureaucratic inertiahere. Some of it is, some of it
is CYA, and some of it is, youknow, probably more nefarious
than that, but there is also alot of bureaucratic inertia, and
it's one of the reasons I'mexcited about the prospect of
Elon getting in there, but to dosome surgery on on some of that
bureaucracy. But, you know, CIA101, when you start that you

(17:44):
have this one week, you know,fill out your tax forms, get the
same as you would with any otherjob. Like, nothing sexy about it
at all. There's just, here's theinsurance program, and the
person who's going to work in,you know, the coffee shop is
sitting next to someone who'sabout to go down to the farm.
It's just everybody goes throughit. And the email client that

(18:08):
you use there looks a lot likeGmail. I mean, it's provided by
Google, and it has all thenormal fields and then an
additional field that's for, um,for classification.

Adam Curry (18:19):
Wow. Okay, couple things. One, she's borderline
frying in the vocals, which is alittle irksome. Two, and
totally. Two, Tucker needs somehelp. He's got a hum going on
there in the background that iscrazy if you hear that room. And
three, what Gmail. They're usinga Google product at the CIA.

John C Dvorak (18:46):
Yeah. Well, here we go with the real kicker,
though, and this is andeverything she's about to tell
you, having worked in anadministrative state myself, I
believe this all to be true, andit's a it's a disaster. And here
we go, additional

Unknown (18:59):
field that's for for classification. And it's a drop
down menu, and it, when it firstdrops down, it's all check boxes
with their own, you know, subsubsets. And it's hundreds of
different classifications, alldifferent numbers and codes. And
you can hover over them, andthey say when to use them, but,

(19:23):
but there are a lot. And we weretold, in that first day, you
know, in that first course, youknow, just to make it easy on
yourself, pick HCS 404, checkbox. It hit Save as favorites.
It'll come up every time, andthen you don't have to worry
about it. Well, that's, youknow, human compartment and

(19:44):
sensitive information. It'susually reserved for, you know,
the actual identity or addressor identifying details of a
source that whose life could bein danger for what they're
doing. And yet, here it's beingused for, you know. Know, I'll
meet you at 430 at Dunkin Donutsand everything in between good

(20:07):
and bad, nefarious and not. Andthe problem with that is that it
is completely exempt from anydeclassification threshold ever.
And as a result of this kind ofadministrative tweak, which is
either just to save people time,or maybe to, you know, reduce
the number of things that willever eventually be published.

(20:29):
Now you have class after classafter class of CIA officers
that, you know, just chronicallymake sure that every single
email they ever write will neversee the light of day. And I
think that is being done acrossgovernment.
So literally, the default issecrecy from the public. Yeah,
the default is you will neverknow. You never know how much

(20:53):
money was spent, what it wasspent on, whether it was legal.
You know whether you spent thatTuesday away from your family,
working to pay taxes, and thosetaxes went to kill someone or
went to save someone's life.There's no no accountability,
and there's no way to know, andthere's no way to know.

Adam Curry (21:12):
Surprise, surprise. So

John C Dvorak (21:15):
the default is set up right at the get go from
day one as a maximum andimpenetrable classification that
never can be released ever bynature, by the nature of the
process, just like the let'sjust declassify all this crap.
You can't do it with thatclassification. And that's that,
including the meetup at theDunkin Donuts, is now super

(21:38):
classified and to never do tosee the light of day. Okay?
First is ridiculous. First of

Unknown (21:45):
all, gambling.

Adam Curry (21:49):
CIA. The CIA is doing this. Not surprised

John C Dvorak (21:53):
at all. They're not the only ones. You have to
assume they're all doing it, ofcourse, because that's the
easiest way to go

Adam Curry (22:00):
on Gmail. On Gmail,

John C Dvorak (22:04):
right? You

Adam Curry (22:06):
gotta wonder, yeah, you gotta wonder if it's
encrypted at all or, I mean, thefact that Gmail so you're just
using a browser, okay, thatseems really secure. All of that
sounds really secure to me.

John C Dvorak (22:20):
It just sounds like a black Well, we have
Keystone con. We

Adam Curry (22:24):
have a lot of spooks who will weigh in and let us
know about this email product.

John C Dvorak (22:30):
I'm sure they'll probably just confirm what she
says. What's her say? You know,yeah,

Adam Curry (22:36):
can you bring your own iPhone and use that as long
as you use Gmail? Okay? Way togo, guys. All right, I have the
clip. I found it. You're right.I found the the last one. Okay,

John C Dvorak (22:49):
now they're talking of this is another, by
the way, that this went a longtime this interview, and it was,
I think people should go trackit down. And no, it's that good.

Adam Curry (22:59):
They think. Is that good you recommend is that JCD?
I recommend it's

John C Dvorak (23:03):
it's if you can put up with the vocal fry and
the pregnant pauses, and it'sthe pacing. Is she

Adam Curry (23:10):
doing that because it's the filters, or because
she's interesting? She's

John C Dvorak (23:14):
not interesting. Okay? Bucha, what she has to say
is interesting, but she doesn'tpresent it in an she's not an
interesting person. She's just akind of, I know how to she's not
uninteresting. She's not like abig dud, but she's just so rich.

(23:36):
She's there's a redistancy.She's like those halt it's a
halting style that, can I saythis? Can I say that you can
just hear it going on in herhead? Can I say this like it's

Adam Curry (23:46):
a little affected by, uh, by being the campaign
manager for RFK Jr, because healso talks like that, not that
he can help it. Maybe they'rejust in sync with each other.

John C Dvorak (23:59):
That's an interesting idea, because that's
a pot that's actually apossibility. So here now they're
talking about, we've talkedabout this on the show. She just
confirmed something. She doesbring in a new point that I
never knew about, and I thinkit's kind of funny, and it's the
end. But they're talking aboutmedia corruption in the spooks
that are in the media, that arethat are either helping the the

(24:23):
CIA,

Adam Curry (24:24):
wait a minute, there's spooks in the media. I
thought the church commissiongot rid

John C Dvorak (24:29):
of there is a piece of information that comes
that, you know, is not gambling,

Unknown (24:34):
okay, which is the oldest, I'm

Adam Curry (24:35):
sorry, can we play?

John C Dvorak (24:36):
No wait, let me finish the setup. And so I
because, I because it just inlaw. I'm trying to, this is
already two minutes, and it'slike a couple minutes before it,
you know, it could have beenused, but I didn't want to do
it, so I wouldn't explain it. Sothere, you know, of course,
Tucker's like a gas at all thisstuff, even though he's always
wanted to be a spook. Says so inhis bio. So he's like, you know,

(24:57):
listening, see, how come Icouldn't have done this. Job
kind of thing. And she's talkingabout the people that got, you
know, recruited, and then do thebidding of the agency, and then
the people that are obviouslyworking for them now. And then
she brings in some stuff that Ididn't know,

Unknown (25:15):
which is the oldest exchange in the world, maybe the
second oldest, and seen it, andit goes on, you know, every day,
there's no doubt that there arealso actual, formal sources
throughout the media. And alwayshave been, you
know, what does that mean? Aformal source in the media?
I mean, you know, an asset,somebody that would be paid by

(25:40):
intelligence organizations to towork on their behalf, play
stories on their behalf, andthey

Adam Curry (25:46):
literally come on CNN, and that says CIA agents. I
mean, how surprising is this

John C Dvorak (25:53):
paid by intelligence? What she's saying?
No that this, I think that'sdifferent than a guy who's a
reporter for the New York Times,or a correspondent for NBC News
who's not doesn't say c i hunder it. Okay, so like Jake
Tapper who just say somethinglike Richard Engel, it'll say
something like that. Or JakeTapper

Adam Curry (26:12):
who just happens to be at the birthday party of the
the CIA director, justcoincidental,

John C Dvorak (26:17):
yeah, it'd be something like that. Brand fair

Unknown (26:21):
organizations to to work on their behalf, play
stories on their behalf. And ofcourse, that happens, you know,
all across the world, but whenit

Adam Curry (26:32):
happens in the United States and it's the end
of democracy, of course,

Unknown (26:36):
well look, I mean, we have CISA operating, basically a
JIRA ticketing system for anytweet that the White House
chooses to that they would liketo see deleted, even if it's,
wait a

Adam Curry (26:50):
minute, JIRA, they're using JIRA. CISA. CISA
is using JIRA. Is what she justsaid.

John C Dvorak (26:56):
Oh no. She Yeah, she says, and I'm not sure what
she's referring to. Yes,

Adam Curry (27:01):
I am JIRA is an is a ticketing system, an open source
ticketing system that I believewas compromised in the solar
winds hack.

John C Dvorak (27:14):
I'm glad you have that information at the White
House, but that's what they'reusing. Okay,

Adam Curry (27:19):
well, sure that and Gmail that the

Unknown (27:22):
White House chooses that they would like to see
deleted, even if it's in jest,even if it's satire, they just
put it in the ticketing is,yeah, well, what's interesting
about CIS is that it, you know,it's a part of the Department of
Homeland Security, but it'ssupposed to protect our, our

(27:43):
nation's infrastructure fromterror attacks. And at the
beginning of the Bidenadministration, a decision was
made that information isinfrastructure.
Oh, it is now. Is it just, you
know, an Orwellian thing to it?And as a result, in order to

(28:03):
secure it, you know, CISO wasquietly empowered with the
ability, sometimes directly andsometimes through NGO cutouts,
to present to all the socialmedia companies and Wikipedia
and Amazon, any content that wasflagged as concerning, and they,

(28:28):
you know, bolo alerts went upbeyond the lookout bolo, and
they held weekly meetings andsaid, you know, here, here Put,
put an enormous amount offinancial pressure on these
companies saying, you know, thattheir legal protections from
liability would be withdrawn ifthey didn't cooperate.

Adam Curry (28:50):
Oh, yeah. Well, I totally believe that, yeah,
yeah, completely, but

John C Dvorak (28:55):
I never knew about the information is
infrastructure. That's a goodone. That's a good one. Yeah.
And then I was looking at thecybersecurity, infrastructure
security agency, which was onlyfounded in 2018 Yeah.

Adam Curry (29:10):
They're supposed to rig the elections. I mean,
protect the elections.

John C Dvorak (29:15):
So the idea that I was thinking about, can you
make the argument? And I can seemaking it that information is
infrastructure. I mean, it's astretch. It's a big stretch, but
could be I can I under you cansee these bureaucrats. It's like
that, that character that wasout of the University of

(29:36):
California, that law professor,I think, is Wong or Lee, or
Wang, or whatever his name is,judge who wrote the he wrote the
MA about torture. He wrote thetorture.

Adam Curry (29:47):
Oh, yeah, I know who you're talking about during when
he's in the hospital and theymade him sign off on something.
That guy. No,

John C Dvorak (29:54):
no. This guy's still around now. He's not
somebody different. Well, it's.There's a lot of that that goes
on, but, yeah, this guy, this isa legitimate legal document that
was used as a rationale fortorture, and very famous during
the Bush administration and thatkind of thing. You can kind of,

(30:18):
you know, if you're smartenough, you can make
information. You can convinceyourself that information is
infrastructure and then then useit as leverage Well, I

Adam Curry (30:27):
would say information, in general, in the
legal sense that creates a legalframework, is infrastructure,
and that's just informationalong the same lines. No,

John C Dvorak (30:39):
it could be an argument. I could see it, by

Adam Curry (30:42):
the way. It wasn't JIRA. It was Confluence. I
apologize, but JIRA is just it'sa ticketing system. We had that
Emilio we used, hey, put it inthe JIRA. Hey, man, this thing's
broken. Put it in JIRA. It'sjust a ticketing system that was
interesting. Well, along theselines, last night, rob the
constitutional lawyer and hislovely wife, Maggie, invited a

(31:06):
couple of people to go out todinner. It was, I would say, was
to celebrate, no agenda, 17thanniversary. He picked up the
picked up the Tet No, no. Therewas a celebratory toast
specifically for our 17thanniversary. And invited the ER
doctor and his wife, Tina, andmyself and two friends. And I
didn't know these two friends,and he had just hit them in the

(31:31):
mouth, but it was in kind of anodd way, where he was trying to
play our last episode on theBluetooth in his car, and it
kept getting stuck on sex event.So they don't really know about
our show much, because it justwe were talking about sex
events, and then so they said,Well, this is an interesting
podcast. You're trying

John C Dvorak (31:50):
to play like the only time we've ever done that.
So

Adam Curry (31:54):
they're my age, and he is. He's a corporate lawyer
now, and she is a middle schoolteacher. I'm not going to use
their names, because we didn'tjust didn't discuss that. I was
going to talk about them. Buthey, don't have dinner with me.
And pretty quickly, prettyquickly, Rob says, Oh no, you'll
love these guys. And then just,you know, just to live up and
live up in the Plano, whatever.Well, in the mid 80s, where'd

(32:17):
you guys meet in the mid 80s? Wemet in Germany. Oh yeah, we were
both in the Air Force. Oh, so itturns out they were both NSA
agents at the Russia desk,Russia division in Germany. So
we had some things to talkabout, and they were they didn't
tell me about any of their ops,but they did have some

(32:40):
interesting observations, andone that kind of relates to this
is that there's kind of a jokearound the intel community that
25% of the intelligencecommunity is walking and they're
either walking in the Pentagon,or they're walking in the
hallways, or they're gettingfrom one place to the other.

(33:02):
Literally, 25% at all times, isjust walking around. And you
could cut so much waste by justhaving people sit at their
desks. And so as I'm talking tothem, 25%

John C Dvorak (33:17):
of the entire intelligence community is
walking wondering would be aprobably wondering,

Adam Curry (33:24):
wandering, wandering is better? Yes, wandering. And
so, you know, I'm just talking alittle bit because, you know,
NSA, yeah, they do spying, butthere's also some level of
psychological operation. And sowe get into some stuff. Because
what I'm hearing around herefrom a lot, and we've discussed

(33:44):
this on the last show, is thegrid's gonna go down. There will
be no election. There arealready gangs inside the
country, and they have killorders for Border Patrol. Oh,
I'm not kidding. I'm notkidding. A lot of fear mongering
about China that Xi specificallywants to disrupt our elections.

(34:06):
And, you know, and so as I'mkind of thinking through that,
didn't discuss all of this withthem, but as I'm thinking
through this, there's a lot ofChina that is in all of these
stories. And let's just followthe money for a second. Remember
the Smith Mundt Act, whichspecifically disallowed
propaganda on the Americancitizens, was reformed during

(34:30):
Obama and where was it reformedin the NDAA, the National
Defense Authorization Act. So itwas a military move to get that
taken out, and this is all, youknow, NSA is also a part of Dia
it's not the CIA. It's, youknow, it's the military guys.
It's the they're part of, arethey part of naval I think,

(34:52):
yeah, because Admiral runs itright. So they're part of the
naval operation. That's

John C Dvorak (34:55):
not, I don't they're totally independent.
This is,

Adam Curry (34:59):
I. Telling you, from what I heard last night, they
are not independent. They aremore related to the military
than anything else.

John C Dvorak (35:06):
Okay, they're supposed to be independent. Oh,
okay, and

Adam Curry (35:10):
the CIA shouldn't use Gmail. I mean,

John C Dvorak (35:14):
there's no rule about that. No, CIA is
independent too, but

Adam Curry (35:18):
the but those guys were very irked when the FBI was
using their systems just gatherinformation. So

John C Dvorak (35:27):
yeah, they were still, yeah, they got the
password so they could use theircrazy again. We talked about
this years ago.

Adam Curry (35:32):
They're all against the CIA and the FBI they had.
They're in a very differentcamp. So let's just review for a
moment what we have going on thenew psychological operations,
which I believe is being passeddown through ranks, through much
lower level guys, has somewaldens. There's another there's
a whole bunch of guys runningaround, who are, you know,

(35:54):
psyching out people like Lauraand and Nomi Wolf and all these
other people and and it'ssomebody's doing it. Well,
listen, it's like China. We haveda this middle aged military,
military age Chinese men here,they're gonna attack us from
win. Chinese are buying landnext to bases. Chinese drones

(36:17):
are flying over bases. And nowyou think about Trump. Trump has
already said that, first of all,China, they need us as much as
we need them. We're theircustomers. Let's just be honest
about it. We may not need all oftheir manufacturing, but Trump
will take their need most of it,but Trump will take the you

(36:39):
know, tariffs. Trump with theChina virus, Trump has a hard on
about China, so he's kind ofperfect to be the next
president, if you take intoaccount that China the pivot to
China. You know what? He'salready said, we're going to
build big, beautiful ships. Allof this stuff is happening.
China. China. Remember, Newlandwas kicked out of state. She

(37:03):
didn't get the job she wanted.Replaced by a China guy, Kurt
Campbell, who played a wholebunch of clips. And now we have
the perfect setup with the newUkraine, which is Taiwan. It
makes so much sense. Russia hasold news. We're going to wrap
that up. You know, whatever itcan go on for a good time, but
there's no new no new money. Weneed new money. We need to build

(37:26):
stuff. And then, coincidentally,this happens. Sources

Unknown (37:29):
in the US say suspected Chinese hackers have targeted
Donald Trump and his runningmate for the White House JD
Vance phones associated with thecampaign of Democratic nominee
Kamala Harris may also have beentargeted. An FBI statement
didn't give any names, but saidit was investigating what it
called unauthorized access tocommercial telecommunications

(37:54):
infrastructure by peopleassociated with China. Was not
clear. It was not immediatelyclear what data, if any, had
been accessed,
if any, of course,

Adam Curry (38:06):
it's like it's a total non story. But let's not
forget, we've got Taiwan in themix, paying

Unknown (38:12):
his respects to soldiers who lost their lives.
Taiwan's President reaffirmedhis country's sovereignty.
Today, gunning to is more thanjust a symbol of military
victory, it also represents ourdetermination to protect our
country. We will not yield aninch of ground in Taiwan.

(38:35):
While Lai did not mention Chinaexplicitly, he was referring to
the 1949 battle of gunning toagainst Beijing's People's
Liberation Army. China claims itas its own territory. There has
been a fortnight of intensemilitary activity in the Taiwan
Strait which separates the two.This includes live fire drills

(38:55):
near the island and theTransiting of a Chinese aircraft
carrier group through the Straiton Wednesday, China's foreign
ministry has said there'snothing wrong with conducting
military activity in the area
Taiwan. Taiwan
is Chinese territory. It'sperfectly normal for Chinese
aircraft carriers to sail in itsown territory. And territorial

(39:18):
waters both sides of the TaiwanStrait belong to one China
Beijing
severed high levelcommunications with Taipei in
2016 and has since ramped upmilitary and political pressure
on the self ruled Ireland.

Adam Curry (39:33):
So even though the military could completely run
this with the Kamala Harriswalls presidency, it's much
easier to go with the guy whoalready has a hard on for him,
like Trump has to be the guy. Itmakes no sense otherwise,
because they're psyching outeverybody, particularly

(39:55):
conservatives, Republicans. Yes.

John C Dvorak (40:01):
Yes, yes, the Harris walls could do it, but
except if you're gonna, ifyou're gonna go with your thesis
that this whole thing is set upfor Trump, because it makes more
sense. It also makes more sensethat it would go for Trump,
because walls is a China file.Yeah, he's no good. Been there a
million times. Yeah, marriedthere. He loves the place. He
wanted to sell off, and he'sgoes, he's there,

Adam Curry (40:23):
excellent point. He's the wrong guy. He's the
absolute wrong guy for the job.Yeah,

John C Dvorak (40:28):
he's pro China. He would, he would turn the
country, he would turn the USover to China if he had a
chance. So

Adam Curry (40:34):
what we need is, when you get everybody all
jacked up and make sure that weget everybody out to vote for
Trump, particularly theChristians. Get everybody out
there, everybody, oh, if you'reand you're watching online, I
mean, how many podcasts have wenot seen in the past year from
the culture war economy, who areall talking about China? And

(40:58):
it's one out, it's continuous,the drones over the bases. Oh,
they're buying land next tobases. Oh, they've got police
stations in which is true, but,

John C Dvorak (41:09):
but, and by the way, one of the biggest ones is
in Minnesota. There you go.

Adam Curry (41:15):
There you go. So yeah,

John C Dvorak (41:17):
Minneapolis has one, so you've done nothing
about it, and I, and,

Adam Curry (41:21):
you know, Trump probably is on to this. He's
like, Oh, this is good, youknow, I can get the tariffs in
and we can build. I mean, westill need an economy, by the
way, the

John C Dvorak (41:28):
police station story is sketchy. I mean, yes,
they're there, and there's one,and there was one in New York. I
think they're rousted it. Ithink there was one out here
too. There's still one inMinnesota. And they, you know,
keep an eye on the on theNationals, and they're supposed
to be, they threaten people, andthen they set up shop in the
universities. Yeah, there'shorrible these people. They're

(41:49):
trying to they're, yeah, I cansee where you can get all worked
up, yeah.

Adam Curry (41:54):
And so we need that. We need this groundswell, and we
need Trump, because besides alarge amount of money that's
going to be spent on thiswonderful Iron Dome over all of
America, a missile defenseshield. They call it Star Wars.
You know, he'll also get histariffs and all that stuff will
work out just fine. Well, you

John C Dvorak (42:14):
have to get, there's an angle on that missile
defense system too. You have tounderstand. And I think as part
of it, this whole thing, I'mgood, I'm gonna just back you
up. Oh, nice. And it's like,well, you know, Reagan wanted to
do this, but the technologywasn't the same as it is today.
So today's technology, because,you know, everything's changed

(42:35):
since 1980 today's technologymakes it possible, and then we
have and then we have the bullcrap. And I have clips on this
to the bull crap that went onbetween Israel and Iran. We'll
get to that in a moment. Yeah,we'll get to that. But, but
that, wait a minute, that thatincorporates the this new
technology, because the 180missiles that were sent over

(42:58):
from Iran didn't that, oh yeah,that hit nothing, except some
poor Palestinian who, I think,got hit by some debris.

Adam Curry (43:06):
We know, we don't think rocket. We saw the shell

John C Dvorak (43:09):
fall on these terrible video very and so they
the 180 missiles couldn't do anydamage because of this new
technology, which is what we'regoing to employ to keep and do
this. So we have to worry aboutanything. I mean, this is, like,
the whole thing is beautifullystructured.

Adam Curry (43:29):
Here's only one thing that there's just, it's a
little bit of a side, a sidetrack, but it has to do with
spooks. You know, one of my bigeye openers before we even
started the show was the booklegacy of ashes. And if you
recall this, so legacy of ashesa story about the CIA written by
Tim Weiner, or Weiner fromformer New York Times. He went

(43:51):
on to write an FBI book, whichsucked, but the CIA book, I
remember calling uncle Don andsaying, is this true? And he
said, Yeah, that's pretty muchhow I remember it. So what I
don't understand is Mike Benz,who I think we both appreciate
for what he does. He goes on a15 minute rant slamming this

(44:12):
book. Listen, I clipped a littlebit of it.

John C Dvorak (44:15):
Tis legacy of ashes. This book is terrible.
This is the book you're supposedto read that you're told to
read, to know what the CIA doesgarbage. And everyone talks
about it like, it's this bigBible of CIA. It's dog water.
It's awful, like, the wholepoint of legacy of ashes. Like,
yeah, the CIA does all thisterrible stuff.

Unknown (44:38):
It's morally dubious. It causes all this blowback in
disaster and human rightsdisasters,
but they're bumbling, stumblingfools. You don't need to worry
about them.
They don't do anything right?
They're so silly. They're suchsilly juices. I.

John C Dvorak (45:01):
Would it be nice if the CI just stopped being
such silly goose as he

Adam Curry (45:05):
goes on and on and on about this. I don't

John C Dvorak (45:07):
understand. Don't you think that this is to draw
attention to the book, to get itback in play?

Adam Curry (45:13):
Didn't, didn't seem like it to me. Well, I've
listened well that now you,you've opened my mind up to
possibilities here that's, yeah,okay, because I haven't heard
anybody say, Oh, you have toread legacy of ashes. Except us.
I've how many times has someonementioned this book to you in

(45:33):
the past 17 years? None,

John C Dvorak (45:35):
exactly. But this will get your attention. Yeah.

Adam Curry (45:40):
Okay, good point. Good point.

John C Dvorak (45:44):
So it's time to reread the book.

Adam Curry (45:50):
Uncle Don is Adam. I'm not gonna

John C Dvorak (45:52):
read that book. I

Adam Curry (45:53):
don't think I can have the same conversation with
him anymore before we go toanything else. Let's

John C Dvorak (45:58):
just stick with no, he's still but heard about
Hillary losing, isn't he?

Adam Curry (46:06):
He does not like Trump. He's like Trump is no
good. He thinks Trump ishorrible. But he's been out of
the game for quite a long time,and I give him all honor, all

John C Dvorak (46:20):
his own opinion. Maybe Trump is bad,

Adam Curry (46:23):
but he was the guy that said to me, yeah, uh, North
Korea, whenever we need to sellsome military stuff, we just
rattle North Korea around themedia. He that was his. He's
almost Trump,

John C Dvorak (46:34):
who's did a good job of stopping that, yeah,
maybe that's the reason hedoesn't like Trump, following up
these great. This

Adam Curry (46:41):
is no good curry. What did you? Did you? Did you
leak this information? Okay, solet's just stick with the with
the election for a little bit.First of all, we have to
understand, no matter what wesay, no matter how we look at
it, this race is tight, John,it's tight. I mean neck and

John C Dvorak (46:59):
neck and neck and neck,

Unknown (47:01):
vice president and former president bashing each
other while rallying theirsupporters as both sides count
down to November 5.
We've got just 10 days left inone of the most consequential
elections of our lifetime.Kamala
Harris and Donald Trumpcrisscrossing the swing states.
HARRIS in Kalamazoo, Michiganthis afternoon, pushing what she

(47:21):
calls a fresh start in hereconomic plan to help middle
America. Trump also in Michigan,and then at State College of
Pennsylvania, vowing to closethe border and bring down the
cost of living. We have nine
days to go to total victory, andthen we're going to have a
different kind of a victory.We're going to turn our nation
around.
Harris, introduced by formerFirst Lady Michelle Obama, the

(47:43):
campaign focusing onreproductive rights, she
will fight to restore ourreproductive freedoms and
defend our health. MichiganSenate candidate Mike Rogers had
a strength for Trump and theeconomy we lost
in the last four years, 20,000manufacturing jobs under

(48:03):
Democrat policies coming out ofWashington, DC,
both candidates trying to appealto the undecided electorate
votes that could push them overthe finish line to win. This is
going
to be the greatest victory inthe history of our country. It's
going to be an exciting it'sgoing to be an exciting night on
November 1,
and make no mistake, we will win

(48:27):
both feeling very confident forHarris and Trump. The
Presidential election all comesdown to the seven battleground
states, and the most crucial isPennsylvania, with its 19
electoral votes,

Adam Curry (48:40):
a clip that I found that we've kind of been looking
for, is the pronunciation ofVice President Harris's first
name, which, if you do it wrong,you're racist. What is now the
official pronunciation? Is itKamala? No, it's Kamala. Kamala.
And by the way, thank you to allof the Chicanos, which turns

(49:04):
out, is not a slur. Thank you. I

John C Dvorak (49:06):
never thought it was. I thought you were laughing
at it because it was a datedreference. Well, I didn't know
you were laughing because youthought I was. I said a slur.

Adam Curry (49:15):
I didn't know either. But a lot of people
email and said, No, no, that'sgood. And they all said, Hey,
I'm glad you guys finally caughton about the came along, because
I came alive. Yeah, they shouldhave emailed this a long time
ago. We didn't know about this.You had to

John C Dvorak (49:30):
hear from your gardener, but now that you
mention it, yes, with that,what's up? Our audience is
remiss.

Adam Curry (49:37):
Our producers, producers, you got to get on the
stick. So this is a 45 secondsuper cut of every single
leftist media personality, and Ithink even a few Democrat
politicians mispronouncing hername, Kamala Harris,

Unknown (49:55):
Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala Harris.
Harris, Kamala Harris, KamalaHarris. People
like Kamala Harris, but asKamala said, Kamala Harris,
Kamala Kamala Harris, KamalaHarris,
Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris,Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris,
Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris,Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris.
Kamala
Harris is Kamala Kamala

(50:16):
Harris, Kamala Harris, KamalaHarris, Kamala Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala Harris. KamalaHarris was a very good
prosecutor. Kamala Harris,Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris,
Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris,Kamala
Harris.
I know her.
And was first Biden and KamalaKamala Harris, Kamala Harris,
Kamala
Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala Harris. Into thecat

(50:38):
is Kamala point, Kamala
Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala

Adam Curry (50:41):
Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala

Unknown (50:43):
Harris, Kamala
Harris. Was talking about this.
Kamala Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala
Harris, Kamala Harris. This
will be my favorite at the end,like Kamala Harris.

Adam Curry (50:54):
So you know, yeah, who

John C Dvorak (50:55):
are these phony baloneys Kidding? They're

Adam Curry (50:58):
all phony baloneys. But now, John, we have a new
October surprise. He said, newOctober surprise right on the
cusp this

Unknown (51:06):
morning, a startling new report, startling

Adam Curry (51:10):
from the Washington Post. It's startling about

Unknown (51:12):
one of Donald Trump's most ardent supporters, Elon
Musk,
this is no ordinary election, aregular from
the campaign trail, andaccording to the Wall Street
Journal, the tech titan inregular contact with Russian
President Vladimir Putin 2022the discussion said to focus on

(51:33):
personal topics, business andgeopolitical tensions at one
point, according to the journal,Putin even asking musk, who says
he holds top secret clearance,to hold off activating one of
his Starlink satellites overTaiwan as a favor to China's
President Xi Jinping. It's notknown if Musk oblige the journal

(51:56):
saying the contacts raisednational security concerns,
given the ties between musk,Space X and the US military and
intelligence agencies, but aperson aware of the
conversations told the journal,there have been no alerts raised
over possible security breaches.Musk has not responded to the
allegations, but when asked in2022 if he had spoken to Putin

(52:20):
about Ukraine. He posted, I havespoken to Putin only once, and
that was about 18 months ago.The subject matter was space.
Earlier this year, PresidentPutin himself praised musk in an
interview with Tucker Carlson onMusk's own X platform, calling
him unstoppable, and Russia thismorning, strongly denying the

(52:43):
Wall Street Journal reportsaying it did not happen. All of
this comes, of course, as DonaldTrump swirls in controversy over
his praise of Vladimir Putin anddenials that he has been in
regular contact with the Russianleader since leaving office.

John C Dvorak (52:58):
Okay, first of all, that's Martha radnitz, yes,
rad. It's

Adam Curry (53:02):
rad, it's rad, it's

John C Dvorak (53:04):
and she's no good. She's the one.

Adam Curry (53:06):
It was a whoop, but it's a WaPo report, who are, of
course, also no good. This

John C Dvorak (53:12):
is all no good. But they're mentioning the WaPo
though I thought was the WallStreet Journal there, but it was
walk. Oh, I there was a nowthere's a ball. Tells broken
loose at the WaPo. Because, oh,you

Adam Curry (53:27):
have the clip. I have

John C Dvorak (53:29):
the two clips. Okay, good, good, good.

Adam Curry (53:31):
WaPo. One,

Unknown (53:32):
the motto of the Washington Post is democracy
dies in darkness. I like themarbles in this guy's mouth. Yet
in these closing days of apresidential campaign that polls
say is close, the post hasannounced it would not endorse
any candidate in the rest of theWhite House. Oh no, it's for the
first time in decades. NPR mediacorrespondent David Fauci flick

(53:53):
broke the story and joins usnow. David, thank you for being
with us. Pleasure. Pleasure postis known for its political
coverage. It's the paper thatbroke the Watergate story and
many more without fear or favormovies. Why is it stepping away
from making an endorsement inthis presidential race?
So let's go first to The statedreason, posted yesterday, just

(54:13):
before noon, from the publisherand chief executive will Lewis.
He says that the post wants toreturn to its roots independent
of partisan interests. It sortof has for decades style itself
as an Independent newspaperunder owner Jeff Bezos. He said
they are going to for thefuture, not endorse in
presidential races, and seek toattain that now, this was a

(54:34):
paper that has been editorially,largely supportive, not
uniformly, but largelysupportive, of the Biden Harris
administration. There had been adraft of an endorsement in the
works endorsing vice presidentKamala Harris for the
presidency. And you know, thisis a newspaper that has been in
the vanguard of reporting onformer President Donald Trump's
alleged wrongdoing and potentialillegalities in office, and has

(54:57):
denounced him editorially forthat. I. On its editorial pages
all throughout that proposedendorsement, which had been
embraced by the editorial pageeditor. Doesn't come as a
surprise, but right now, ifyou're looking at it on its own
terms, the explanation you lookat a time when the media is
under attack, trust is at recordlows, particularly among
conservatives, especially amongTrump supporters. This is, on

(55:17):
its surface, an effort by theowner, Jeff Bezos, to try to
remediate and address that.
What's the reaction been like atthe post? Well, because of the
Trump post record in itsreporting and because of its
strong opinions talking aboutTrump being unfit for office in
its separately run editorialside, particularly as a result
of the January 2021, efforts todeny President Biden's

(55:38):
certification of his win,there's been fewer there's been
tumult inside the post and tosome degree outside of as well.
Resignation of Robert Kagan, along time columnist, editor at
large, he's been warning foryears of Trump as an
authoritarian in the making.Robert
Kagan is no liberal either.Before

Adam Curry (55:54):
we go to the next step, I have some questions for
you. So one Kagan, who wasVictoria Newlands, husband,

John C Dvorak (56:02):
yeah, neocon, war monging, mongering, epic war
con. But there's no liberal,quote, unquote, no liberal. All
the Neo cons came from theliberal side of things. So let's
get that straight.

Adam Curry (56:13):
What is the function of the editor at large? Is it
just an editor who's a big guy,or is there some function that's
specific, that's not the editor,the editor at large. Is he at
the top of the food chain?

John C Dvorak (56:28):
No, the editor at large is largely a, I thought he
was the editorial page editor,but he would editor, editor at
large. Is his title? Okay? Sothe editor at large is largely
a, mostly a ceremonial title.It's given to somebody who's
been around for a while and theydon't want to make him this, or

(56:49):
they don't want to make himthat. I had the title at info
world for a while, while I was acolumnist because I like I
because I couldn't be acontributing editor anymore,
because I wasn't writinganything other than this column.
And I decide, and I said, here,I want to be the consulting
editor. But

Adam Curry (57:04):
do you walk around and you wrap your pencil on
people's desk and go, Hey,you're not doing it right? Or,

John C Dvorak (57:10):
I mean, what the editor at large? Yeah, would

Adam Curry (57:12):
you just have phone calls or meetings or, no,

John C Dvorak (57:15):
you don't do any of that. No, you just, it's just
a it's an honorary, it'sbasically, it's not, it's close
to something like that. It's abull crap title. It's the same
as consulting editor, which Iwas, it's a it's it's great. It
sounds good. Yes. In otherwords, supposedly they call you

(57:35):
once in a while, say, Hey,you're the consulting editor.
Can I consult with you? Theynever do that. I've never been
consulted to this day. Do youget paid for this? You, you're
like a consulting podcaster.Nobody's ever called you. They
you'd like, they invented it.Nobody ever says it. There's a
Adam. Can you help us for doinga podcast? Can give us a tip?
No, they don't even bother. Lotsof people ask you. So the editor

(57:55):
at large is just a guy that'ssupposedly you. He can. No, it
doesn't mean anything,

Adam Curry (58:02):
but it sounds cool at cocktail parties in DC at
large or Washington Post,whatever large.

John C Dvorak (58:11):
I like the idea of being a fat guy, though, that
would make it better. Well, he

Adam Curry (58:15):
is a fat guy, isn't he? Yeah, he's

John C Dvorak (58:16):
a fat guy.

Adam Curry (58:17):
So okay, so now let's just take this into the
overall perspective that so eventhough he's an I mean, are they?
They're kicking out all the oldNeo cons Newland, no, we're
moving to China. You don't knowanything about China. You're
out. And by the way, that editorat large, husband of yours, he's
no good either, but he wants toendorse Kamala. We can't have
that. It's Trump for China. NowI wonder if he's

John C Dvorak (58:42):
this is fitting into the pieces of the puzzle
that may all be fittingtogether. Part Two may explain a
little more

Unknown (58:49):
every Robert Kagan is no liberal, either he
is absolutely not, not aliberal, by any stretch, or
means, 10 opinion writers at thepost denounced the post decision
in a posting they did on its ownwebsite. You saw Woodward and
Bernstein come out. You sawMarty Baron, the lionized former
executive editor of the post,call it cowardice and spineless.
And you saw over 1600cancelations of digital

(59:11):
subscriptions there three hoursafter the story broke. And
that's happening against abackdrop in which Trump has been
attempting to directly andexpressly intimidate the press,
saying that if he wins officeonce more, that he will wreak
vengeance against it. And if youthink about Jeff Bezos, yes,
hold

Adam Curry (59:27):
on a second, this is now they just went to nonsense.
Well,

John C Dvorak (59:32):
this is the irony of the whole thing to me, which
is that it's the left and these,you know, the msnbcs and all the
rest that make all this stuff upabout Trump because he says
something casually or justjokingly, or he doesn't say it
at all, and they make it up, andthey've literally scared their
own pants off, expressly

Unknown (59:53):
intimidate the press, saying that if he wins office
once more, that he will wreakvengeance against it. And you
think about you. Bezos, yes,he's the owner of the post, but
of course, the founder ofAmazon, he has a ton of business
interests worth billionsinvolving the federal
government. Amazon shipping itscloud and China computing
contracts, and his spacecompany, Blue Origin, has a

(01:00:13):
multi billion dollar deal withfederal government to take
people into the heavens.
This follows a similar decisionby the publisher of the Los
Angeles Times. Is it a similarstory and reasoning by the owner
there?
Yeah. And interestingly, thereis no formal publisher there.
It's all being decided by ownerPatrick soon showing there had
also been an editorial insupport of Kamala Harris being

(01:00:35):
drafted, and he decided to killit. That led to the resignation
of the editorial center and twoother editorial writers there.
Patrick soon song again, a civicleader stepped forward to buy
the times to try to sustain itin the same time. He's a
billionaire physician, inventorwith major interest before
federal regulators should Trumpwins again. He is threatening
this vengeance that I mentioned.And so here's the question, Are

(01:00:57):
these figures trying to, at atime of low trust in the media,
redefine their papers as moreindependent and away from
partisan interests just daysbefore an election that their
own editorial pages say maydefine the future of the
American democratic experimentfor decades to come. Or is this
a moment where paper arebuckling in the face of
potential pressure, because ofcourse, this race is so close

(01:01:19):
they don't know who's going to

Adam Curry (01:01:21):
win soon, Xing of LA Times, also Chinese, American,

John C Dvorak (01:01:27):
I may be, yeah, but when I see what, I get a
kick out of this guy, 10 guy,oh, we're right. We quit. And
they're quitting to

Unknown (01:01:35):
do what? Rage quitting?

John C Dvorak (01:01:37):
They're rage quitting. And there's no
business. It's the dyingindustry. The newspaper industry
is Get down, going down thetubes, and they're gonna quit to
go do what, just make themselveshomeless. This is beyond me.

Adam Curry (01:01:51):
It's a very interesting twist. It's clear
that they can't go againstTrump. It's not that they don't
want people to go for commasthat can't go against Trump.
Whether it's for Okay, Bezos, isthe business interest sketchy?
Maybe, I don't know, but it'sall part of the he has to win,

(01:02:14):
particularly when the race isthis close. Race is so close,
you can almost

John C Dvorak (01:02:19):
get that voice, that guy's voice, that'd be
good. You add that to yourarsenal. With the Dutch guy, my

Adam Curry (01:02:26):
arsenal of almost. I'm almost there. You

John C Dvorak (01:02:29):
have an arsenal of almost.

Adam Curry (01:02:33):
I want to wrap up the Russia thing. Then I want to
come back to the media. Who areyou know, along well,

John C Dvorak (01:02:38):
before you do that, we're still in the
campaign. I wanted to finish getI

Adam Curry (01:02:41):
was doing Russia. I wanted to finish up Russia.
Yeah, you moved off the camera.No, no, no. You stole me. You
stole my vibe going from Russiainto WaPo. It's okay. I just
have one clip. Oh, well,

John C Dvorak (01:02:55):
once you play your clip. I just wanted to get
these two campaign wraps youbecause I wanted to play him is
because they're from thenation's treasure. Yes,

Adam Curry (01:03:03):
no, you're going to have to, I insist you play them.
I just want to play because thisis something that was flying
under the radar. And this is,uh, Grandma Yellen, who I think
is younger than I am. Yellenwho, uh, did the keynote for the
IMF, World Bank, Jamboree, didyou see any of this? No, I

John C Dvorak (01:03:27):
have no idea what you're talking about.

Adam Curry (01:03:29):
So the IMF and the World Bank have a big meeting a
couple days back. It's a wholeweek of meetings. I just call it
the jamboree. And she opened itup and she talked about Ukraine,
Ukraine. Sorry, Ukraine. Andthere was something very
interesting, some stuff we knewabout the the loan to Ukraine,

(01:03:49):
where that's coming from, thestolen Russian money. But wait
until you hear how she wrapsthis up. You

Unknown (01:03:55):
You mentioned the $50 billion loan that the g7 leaders
agreed to provide to Ukraine,and asked me about the status of
it. We're very close tofinalizing Americans, America's
portion of this $50 billion loanpackage. And what I want to

(01:04:19):
emphasize is that the source offinancing for these loans, this
is not the American taxpayer.What's happening here is that
Russia is paying for thissupport, the 50 billion of
support that we intend to go toUkraine by the end of this year,

(01:04:43):
it is the income on the assetsthat have been mobilized,
Russian sovereign assets thathave been mobilized in Euroclear
that are the source of repaymentand with a. Agreed with Ukraine
that even if there is a finalsettlement and truces reached,

(01:05:11):
that it will be Russian fundsthat will go to repay these
loans.

Adam Curry (01:05:21):
I'm sure Russia is gonna love that. So it's
Russia's money, and they'regonna repay it with Russia's
money.

John C Dvorak (01:05:27):
You know? The funny thing is, the isn't that a
tranche of 300 billion? Yes,yes, and somehow the interest is
50 billion. You know, I

Adam Curry (01:05:40):
thought this exact same thing, like, you're not
investing this in money markets.What did you do with that? Did

John C Dvorak (01:05:47):
you Yeah, this is, this is a return that's way
over 10%

Adam Curry (01:05:50):
did you buy Nvidia stocks? Or what is the 20%
return? What? Yes, exactly.

John C Dvorak (01:05:56):
They put the Russian money in. It's

Adam Curry (01:05:58):
not the S P. I mean, is S, P up 20% No, no, not.

John C Dvorak (01:06:03):
Well, yeah, maybe over a period

Adam Curry (01:06:06):
in years. Yeah,

John C Dvorak (01:06:07):
this is not right. No, these numbers don't
make sense, but we're

Adam Curry (01:06:11):
the ones cutting the check. That's the big joke of it
all. It's secure. Don't worry.It's this extra money that's
floating around that. Or maybethat's just how banking actually
works behind the scenes. You,you stupid people, you can get
your money market, and somehowwe've, we've, we get 20% return.
Who knows? All right, let's goto your rap. Hold on a second.

(01:06:32):
Oh, wait, at least of America.

Unknown (01:06:36):
This is NPR,

John C Dvorak (01:06:38):
or I wanted to do before it says you talked about
Ukraine. I wanted to do theUkraine update before we do
that.

Adam Curry (01:06:44):
Okay, Ukraine? What's PBS so it fits with the
jingle.

John C Dvorak (01:06:47):
Then Ukraine is the other nations national
treasure, treasure

Unknown (01:06:51):
in Ukraine. Russian drones struck Kyiv in an hours
long nighttime barrage. Ukraineand Ukrainian officials said one
went into an apartment building,killing a 15 year old girl and
injuring five others. And incentral Ukraine, a missile
struck a residential area inDnipro, regional officials said
a 14 year old and four otherswere killed and at least 21

(01:07:12):
others injured. We

Adam Curry (01:07:14):
should have never, ever let that happen.

John C Dvorak (01:07:18):
We should know that's for sure. No, no,

Adam Curry (01:07:20):
but, but, let me tell you what I mean. We should
have never let them force peopleto change from Kyiv to Kyiv. Oh,
Kyiv. That's, that's horse crap.I'm just going to go back to
saying Kyiv. That is so rememberif you said Kyiv, if you said
Kyiv, then you were a Russianagent. That was pretty much what

(01:07:41):
they say, Oh no, it's Kyiv. Ifyou say Kyiv, you're, you're,
you're carrying water for Putin.

John C Dvorak (01:07:47):
That was the Russians that pronounce it Kyiv.
No,

Adam Curry (01:07:51):
no. The Ukrainians do Kyiv. Kyiv. Kyiv. In Russian,
Kyiv. And we say Kyiv, or atleast we used to, until the
whole media change. Oh

John C Dvorak (01:08:02):
yeah. This is like, yeah, Freedom price.

Adam Curry (01:08:05):
Can't say that. Oh

John C Dvorak (01:08:07):
yeah, yeah. We're getting pushed around too much
now. We're I'm

Adam Curry (01:08:10):
putting my foot down. Kyiv, put my foot down on
that. I want chicken, but hisfoot stomping. My foot down. All
right. Campaign, right?

John C Dvorak (01:08:20):
I want to get this to be the end of the
election coverage for today'sshow.

Adam Curry (01:08:24):
Okay, I have, I have two more within

John C Dvorak (01:08:27):
the in follow it up with, with what I'm gonna
follow it up I'm gonna, no, thisis from the National Treasure
NPR campaign.

Adam Curry (01:08:34):
Wrap one on

John C Dvorak (01:08:37):
the campaign trail. Both presidential

Unknown (01:08:39):
candidates are stumping for undecided. Voters in swing
states today. Vice PresidentHarris rallied in Michigan with
former First Lady MichelleObama. Harris touched on
familiar themes, including therising cost of health care.
I believe health care should bea right and not just a privilege
of those who have the money toafford it.

(01:09:07):
On the other hand, we've gotDonald Trump who intends to end
the Affordable Care Act. Oh,

Adam Curry (01:09:14):
please. They're so wildly exaggerating everything,
particularly Roe v Wade, whichwas not a law. It was a Supreme
Court decision. And this, it'sgone back to the States, but
somehow Trump is going to makeit law that, you know, you know,
it's

John C Dvorak (01:09:34):
funny is that these the states, like states
like California, where it's, youknow, abortion is legal, and
they can do it, you know, undernormal circumstance, but
everyone's voting for comedyhere.

Adam Curry (01:09:46):
Why would you do that?

John C Dvorak (01:09:47):
It's already this. It's a done deal. What are
you bitching about? Why are youcomplaining about it? About any
of it in California or Colorado,for that matter, where you can
go nine months and have anabortion as the baby's head is
popping out. I mean. Why?

Adam Curry (01:10:00):
Why is KTLA running? Reports that it's a close
election. What do they care?They're not getting any extra ad
money. This is just claiming.They're just

John C Dvorak (01:10:10):
following the leader. That's what you do.
Okay, they said radio guys. Theydon't know

Adam Curry (01:10:14):
what the hell's going on. Come on radio guys.
KTLA is a television station.

John C Dvorak (01:10:19):
Oh, okay, well, they say radio guys that moved
to TV. So the the, the thingabout this last clip was that
they're talking about, it's araise, rising cost and health
care. I'm sorry, everything'sgetting bad and and then

Adam Curry (01:10:36):
the I just want to I'm still stuck. It just kind of
hit me where you the baby's headpops out, kill it. Man, that was
a gruesome, gruesome thing youjust said, yeah. Well, happens,
okay, I'm sorry. Back toColorado, back to you, bro,

John C Dvorak (01:10:53):
the rising cost of health care and then and
Trump wants to kill their wait.The Affordable Care Act is
supposed to make it affordable.Why is it rising? Yeah, it's in
play right now. It's not gone.It's in play. We are under its
influence. But how come thingsare rising? Did you answer that
question came up Trump

Unknown (01:11:13):
campaigned in two states today, starting in a
Detroit suburb, where he slammedearly voting, even though it was
a rally to mark the start ofstatewide early voting in
Michigan tonight, Trumpcampaigned on the Penn State
campus in State CollegePennsylvania. Kamala will
destroy your inheritance, butmuch more importantly, she's
going to destroy your country.If you vote for me, I will

(01:11:34):
ensure that you begin yourcareers young people in a
roaring economy in a time ofunprecedented peace and
prosperity,
Trump's using the collegesetting to make a direct appeal
to first time voters and earlyin person voting did kick off
across Michigan today as NPRs,Hansi, la Wong reports, more
than 40 million voters aroundthe country have cast their

(01:11:55):
ballots so far.
Eligible Michiganders throughoutthe swing state can now catch up
with early voters in the Detroitarea and East Lansing, where in
person voting at the pollsstarted days ago, ahead of the
rest of the state. If you'reeligible to cast a ballot in
Michigan but haven't registeredyet, you still have time to sign
up at your local clerk's officethrough Election Day, the last
day of voting outside of theswing state though, voter
registration for this fall'selection is closing today in

(01:12:18):
Massachusetts and New York,eligible voters there have hours
left to register in person oronline. Around the country,
election officials have raisedconcerns about potential mail
delays if you plan to vote bymail, the Postal Service is
urging you to check your state'sdeadline and return your ballot
at least one week before thatdate

Adam Curry (01:12:37):
mail in ballots.

Unknown (01:12:40):
Yeah, it's a plague.

Adam Curry (01:12:42):
Well, because you brought up affordable, the
Affordable Care Act, formerlyknown as Obamacare, President
Trump said something aboutmaking America healthy again
that. I mean, I think it wasreading off the prompter. So I'm
not quite sure if, if this was amistake. Or listen to this, tell

(01:13:02):
me if you hear the same thing Ihear.

Unknown (01:13:04):
As we secure our borders and rebuild our economy,
we are also going to makeAmerica healthy again. Now,

Adam Curry (01:13:13):
you think this is teleprompter, seems like it's
teleprompter, right? This is ateleprompter bit, yeah. All
right,

Unknown (01:13:20):
the Kamala health care plan will make our kids sicker
and their diets more toxic.Under the Trump administration,
we will get the toxic chemicalsout of our food supply, and we
will make our childrenhealthier. We will spend more
money on health care than anyother nation. But

Adam Curry (01:13:43):
think of that, what

John C Dvorak (01:13:45):
we will already spending more money on health
care than any other nation?

Adam Curry (01:13:50):
Is he going to spend more on health care than any
other nation? This is what Idon't understand. Spend

Unknown (01:13:55):
more money on health care than any other nation. But
think of that. You know we do. Idon't know if you know we spend.

Adam Curry (01:14:02):
Oh, I think, I think he realizes that he's screwed up
here. Yeah, I think you'reright, because you'll think of
that now we've

John C Dvorak (01:14:08):
spent more money on healthcare. He left out
weave, and he we, he's heweaved.

Adam Curry (01:14:16):
He weaved in the wrong direction. Weaved himself.
Yes. He didn't let the loom comeback on the

John C Dvorak (01:14:19):
weave. So he said we, instead of saying we've
spent more money, he said we'regoing going to spend more.

Adam Curry (01:14:29):
When I heard that doesn't sound right, that's a
total screw up. You're right.Good catch now, tonight is the
big Madison Square Garden. SeeKyle. Hang up the swastikas. I
didn't clip, but I heardGovernor hokel this morning on
MSNBC. She's saying, Oh no, Ithink I think Trump is coming to

(01:14:50):
New York to wave the white flagof surrender. Okay. What? Yeah,
yeah, it would have been a goodclip. Anyway, Mayor Adams was
questioned about a. About Trumpbeing a fascist and Hitler and a
horrible person. I recall thatTrump kind of, kind of, was nice
to Adams is very

John C Dvorak (01:15:10):
nice to him at the L Smith dinner house. He
complimented him. He told hetold him that he'll get over it.
This will be fine. He'll get outof this quagmire he's stuck in.

Adam Curry (01:15:19):
I think that Adams has chosen his camp. Hi, Mr.
Mayor. I

Unknown (01:15:23):
wondered if I could ask you about any communications
you've been having with theTrump campaign about this rally
or otherwise, and if youbelieve, as others have said,
that the former president isfascist,

Adam Curry (01:15:33):
fascist as a journalist, can you believe that
you're sent down to the pressconference for the mayor? Now
ask him, do you think Trump is afascist? Here's the question.
It's like stuttering John levelquestions.

John C Dvorak (01:15:48):
That's a good, good analogy, stuttering John.
That's

Adam Curry (01:15:51):
what that's what stern used to back when Stern
was stern, he would givestuttering John crazy questions
like that. Hey, do you thinkTrump's a fascist? And everyone
would be laughing about it. Andnow it's just a serious
question. Ask you

Unknown (01:16:02):
about any communications you've been
having with the Trump campaignabout this rally or otherwise,
and if you believe, as othershave said, that the former
president is fascist, you
know, I have been had thoseterms hurled at me by some
political leaders in the cityusing terms like Hitler and

(01:16:22):
fascis, my answer is, No, I knowwhat Hitler has done, and I know
what a fascis regime looks like.I think, as I've called over and
over again, that the level ofconversation, I think we could

(01:16:45):
all dial down the temperature.And I've heard people say that
the former president should notbe able to have a rally in
Madison Square Garden. Istrongly disagree. This is
America. This is New York, and Ithink it's important that we
allow individuals to exercisetheir right to get their message

(01:17:09):
clear to New Yorkers, and ourjob as a city and as a police
department is to make sure theycan do that in a peaceful in a
peaceful way. I think that wemust be extremely cautious. The
heat we turn up today, preelection, is going to have to be
the heat we're going to have togovern it. And I think we need

(01:17:31):
to show a level of respectablecommunication.

Adam Curry (01:17:36):
Uncle Tom is what he is there they said, with Trump,
uncle,

John C Dvorak (01:17:41):
I can see him being called out. Oh

Adam Curry (01:17:43):
yeah, oh yeah. So I'm pretty convinced, just based
upon my own theory. And for awhile, we've been talking about
the they the system, howeverybody benefits if Trump
wins, the real everybody,especially the media, everybody
benefits if he wins, andprobably the country, which
would be nice. But if, if hedoes, now for if he doesn't,

(01:18:09):
it'll be an interesting fourmore years for us. If he does,
it'll be an interesting fourmore years for us. No, it's
going

John C Dvorak (01:18:14):
to be interesting four years, whatever. But no
doubt about it. But for Joe

Adam Curry (01:18:18):
Scarborough, who had to sit down with Jimmy Kimmel. I
would like,

John C Dvorak (01:18:22):
Oh, that was a pathetic it was like two old
ladies. They should have bothbeen knitting. I would like

Adam Curry (01:18:31):
our no agenda producers to have compassion for
these men, because they they arevery emotional about the even
the idea of Trump winning,

Unknown (01:18:41):
I think that there are certain news networks, if you
want to call them, that who arelying to people. I think that
there's a certain generation ofwhich we are a part who are used
to watching television andseeing the white man in a suit
telling us what's going on inthe world and believing that
what he's saying is true. Ithink that is ingrained in us as

(01:19:02):
Americans. We grew up with DanRather and Tom Brokaw and Peter
Jennings, and we did notquestion that what they were
telling us was factual. And alot of people now are looking at
Sean Hannity and whomever else,and they are not questioning
whether or not what they'resaying is factual and what
they're hearing is untrue. This

Adam Curry (01:19:23):
is so telling. First of all, when, when did Broca and
Jennings and rather go off theair 20 years ago?

John C Dvorak (01:19:36):
It was a long time ago.

Adam Curry (01:19:38):
So there, you know, I don't know who you're talking
to, but most people don't evenknow these names.

John C Dvorak (01:19:45):
I'm surprised they didn't bring up Walter
Cronkite and and what's the twodid to Huntley Brinkley, there's
my favorite dude, Huntley andBrinkley, okay, when Walter
Cronkite. Night and Huntley andBrinkley were on the air. This
is not the way it

Adam Curry (01:20:03):
was going. R Murrow did things right, damn it. And I
can

John C Dvorak (01:20:08):
come on, check the calendar,

Unknown (01:20:11):
what they think, because they're being told
there's a caravan of migrantscoming, and then nobody's
following up at the end and say,oh, there was no caravan of
migrants coming.

Adam Curry (01:20:23):
There was a caravan of migrants. There's

Unknown (01:20:26):
a million load of

John C Dvorak (01:20:28):
caravans of migrants. There's video.

Adam Curry (01:20:31):
There's millions and millions of them

Unknown (01:20:34):
coming. And Aurora Colorado has not been taken over
by Venezuelan street gangs. Andby the way, this story about
cats and dogs being devoured byHaitian immigrants in
Springfield, they're eating thedogs, the people that came in,
they're eating the cats. They'reeating they're eating the pets,

(01:20:55):
is
preposterous. I will tell you,I've been dreaming the last
three nights. I've been justgoing, been going through all
this craziness over and overagain. It's really starting to
take a toll, like, I just, Ican't get it out of my head.
Okay,

Adam Curry (01:21:10):
so this is where he gets emotional, because he's, I
think he sees the writing on thewall and and you can hear it in
his voice. He's very, veryconcerned about the possibility
of a Trump victory. I

John C Dvorak (01:21:26):
want to mention something we have to remember,
that on his during one of hismonologs During the Trump
presidency, he literally criedon stage. He cried, yeah, he
cried about something that hethinks Trump did or didn't do,
whatever it was. It wasludicrous. And he's, uh, hates
Trump, and it's just, and itshows up in his comedy, and it

(01:21:47):
shows, if you want to call itthat. So

Adam Curry (01:21:50):
here we go, here's here's the and again, have
compassion for this man. I askyou, just forgive him. I am
going to have compassion. I'mnot spiking the ball. If Trump
wins, I'm just going to havecompassion. Do

Unknown (01:22:04):
you look forward to the day
when you don't have to? Becauseone of the things that is so
exhausting to me and why, therehave been several times I don't
think I can do this anymore.Don't want to talk about I don't
care who it is, the same personevery day. And yet,

Adam Curry (01:22:24):
your whole career is based on talking about Trump
every single day. Scarborough.What are you talking about

Unknown (01:22:30):
every day? And yet, every day, you're more
outrageous things said. So ifyou don't talk about it, it's
like you're given permission. Doyou look forward to the day
when,
oh, boy, do
I not only do I look forward tothe day, I have to, I was
telling my wife, I don't feellike I'm mentally prepared for
the possibility of a loss. I'mnot ready for I like I have to,

Adam Curry (01:22:56):
I think he needs another vacation. I have

Unknown (01:22:58):
to get there where I'm ready for either scenario or for
no scenario, which is might bethe case for several days. Oh,
yeah, the grids going down soand I have to also kind of think
through what I might say thenext day, because, you know, I
mean, you're gonna have to be upthe next morning talking about
what happened for

Adam Curry (01:23:18):
all 300,000 people that listen to Morning Joe,

Unknown (01:23:22):
what didn't happen? And what message do you want to send
to people who watch the show?It's, you know, most of my shows
aren't important. That one seemsa little bit more important than
others, because I do have a lotof people kind of asking me what
I think and going along withwhat I think. And it's a big
responsibility, you know. So Idon't even remember what I said

(01:23:44):
the last time he won. I justremember staying up almost all
night and trying to process it,my wife being very, very upset
and feeling very alone, like Igot to figure out what I'm going
to say. Nobody can figure thisout for me, none of my writers
can figure out my take on this.I have to tell them what it is.

Adam Curry (01:24:04):
I mean, I feel his pain.

John C Dvorak (01:24:06):
I'm like, Yeah, jerk.

Adam Curry (01:24:10):
I feel his pain. I mean, what will we say the next
day? If Harris wins, we'll belike, All right, all right. The
what's going on now, we'll justkeep on going. I don't think
that it was so so spun up overall this. It is just, goodness
gracious everybody. Chill out.It's, it's really interesting

(01:24:33):
how, how spun up everybody isover this. Well, not everybody.
Well, no, not everybody. There'sa lot of no agenda. People are
totally not spun up over it. No,why should you be exactly, it's
not the end of this. And yeah,Trump will be great. It's not
you can't vote your way out ofthe problems we have.

John C Dvorak (01:24:53):
We know state's not going to help much. No, it's
when Elon comes in. Oh,

Adam Curry (01:24:59):
yeah. That's right, he'll fix it. That's right.
Elon, he'll fix it. Yeah, he'sgonna fix it. Hey, with that, I
want to thank you for yourcourage. Say in the morning to
you, the man who put the C andcounseling, editor of PC
Magazine,

John C Dvorak (01:25:11):
consulting. What did I say? He said, counseling.
Counseling editor, hey, youguys, you guys. You guys. The

Adam Curry (01:25:22):
consulting editor of PC magazines. Hello to my
friend. Let me go the end theone and only. Mr. John C D,

John C Dvorak (01:25:31):
consulting editor of info world, by the way, not
the PC Magazine, but that'sokay. In the morning to you, Mr.
Adam curry, also in the morning.He ships the seat boost to the
ground, feet in the air, subs inthe water. Wow,

Adam Curry (01:25:45):
all right, oh no, it's not Wow, or is it Wow?
What's it supposed to be onSundays? 1800 brother, it's 2400
on on Sundays,

Unknown (01:25:55):
yeah,

Adam Curry (01:25:56):
we're 2321 so we're close,

John C Dvorak (01:25:58):
we're low, and it's the 17th anniversary show,

Adam Curry (01:26:03):
people are at church. Man, they got other
things to

John C Dvorak (01:26:06):
do. They weren't at church when we hit 4000

Adam Curry (01:26:10):
I don't remember when we hit 4000

John C Dvorak (01:26:13):
that was a while ago. That was the height. Yeah,
that was that during COVID,probably during COVID. No, no.
That was the recent It wasrecently, during COVID, we hit
34 once, yeah, yeah, thoughthey're raking it was a Sunday,
so they weren't at church. Theneither, of course, during COVID,
you couldn't go to church. Itwas illegal.

Adam Curry (01:26:31):
Is there a football game on by any chance there must
be football,

John C Dvorak (01:26:34):
not a good football game. Hey,

Adam Curry (01:26:37):
any football game other than listening to no
agenda? I'm all in on that, bythe way, nice to see that pit
won. Remember it was,

John C Dvorak (01:26:47):
oh, you know Cody, well, pit Dolly, one. They
literally embarrassed,embarrassed Syracuse. But I have
to, I just have to say, I don'tknow what we were thinking. We
had a policy, and I want toreiterate the policy, we do not
do karma for sports teams.That's right. And we do see the
reason why, and because

Adam Curry (01:27:05):
we forget to bet on it, that's why.

John C Dvorak (01:27:08):
Yes, no, the reason why, because it gives the
team an unfair advantage. We'renot going to do

Adam Curry (01:27:14):
it. Remember, it was, it was a Commodore. It was
a Dota who came in with aCommodore ship for his son. And
then we were we slipped. We did?We slip? We slipped. I'm sorry.
And you see what happens? Boom,they win. And not just by a
little bit. It was embarrassing.What happened?

John C Dvorak (01:27:34):
It was an embarrassing, I think it was a
shutout or something. It wasoutrageous. Interception after
interception. Yeah, they set therecord for three intercept. It
was not just interceptions. Itwas three pick sixes, which is
an intersection, aninterception, where you run it
into the end zones, dude, I'mjust explaining it to you and
everyone else.

Adam Curry (01:27:52):
Thank you, because I forgot there

John C Dvorak (01:27:55):
was three pick sixes in the first half. What

Adam Curry (01:27:58):
does that even mean? Pick sixes?

John C Dvorak (01:28:01):
I just explained it. No, you do make an
interception and score atouchdown with the interception.
Oh, that's

Adam Curry (01:28:06):
called a pick six, yeah, because you picked it out
of the air and you made sixpoints. Boom,

Unknown (01:28:13):
hello.
That's with the conversion.

Adam Curry (01:28:16):
Okay, all right, thanks. Now I can sound cool. I
can say, well, I was talking tothe consulting editor, formerly
of info world, and he we'retalking about the pick six is a
pit. It's amazing.

John C Dvorak (01:28:29):
Yeah, you're not going to make points with that,
by the way,

Adam Curry (01:28:33):
I'll make points to low level. Believe me. Make
points with somebody. You

John C Dvorak (01:28:37):
want to talk about something else, flooding
the zone is better. Okay.Anyway,

Adam Curry (01:28:43):
yeah, 17 years we've been running this show. Not bad.
And by the way, just to thankthe trolls for being in the
troll room, troll room.io, thankyou also to Mr. Darren O'Neill,
who, for the past four or fiveyears has been doing more longer
than that, imagine, longer thanthat, has been doing the wrong
decade. Almost. I don't knowabout that. I think so. No, I

John C Dvorak (01:29:04):
don't think he's been doing the decade. You can
tell us, but it's a lot. Yeah,he's

Adam Curry (01:29:09):
been doing, let me see, did he just post here? Let
me see if he told us what it is.No, he has been doing the Rock
and Roll pre show, which is twohours before the show on
Thursday and Sunday, and it'sbeen a great help. And a lot of
people, I mean, it would takedays to thank everybody who has

(01:29:29):
done something for no agenda.And I'll even add a lot of the
modern podcast app developerswho have made it we've been
doing this show live like, oh,we can add this live stuff into
these podcast apps. And oh,well, make sure you get
notified, and we'll make surethat you know you can't get de
platformed, and even when youpublish within 90 seconds. Oh,

(01:29:50):
the modern podcast app show youthat the podcast is there. But
we have many websites, includingour own no agenda show.net, the
No. Agenda meetups.com. The noagenda Art Generator we have so
like, no agenda fun, the tip ofthe day.net. I mean, could just
go on and on and on. And theboots on the ground and the
people who um supplies with endof show mixes. I had so many end

(01:30:14):
of show mixes, I had to make achoice. There's at least double
the amount. Everyone's alwayssending them in for today's
show, but we'll get to them, ofcourse. And you know, even Chris
Wilson popped up and he said, hesaid, hi and congratulations.
It's just been, it's been sonice. It's really, really nice.

(01:30:35):
Appreciate it so much. And ourartists have been along for the
ride for a long time, eventhough it was in the standard it
took apple up until, I think,two years ago, for them to
finally say, oh, you know, wecan put episode art in and not
just be the same image over andover again while we've been
using fresh arts for what do youSay? 15 years? Yeah, at least

(01:31:01):
15, well, 15 years, probably.And

John C Dvorak (01:31:04):
that three dates the Art Generator, there was a
previous Art Generator, yes.

Adam Curry (01:31:08):
And then the Art Generator came around, came
along, and then it got switchedto headless Drupal. And that was
tough. It was tough times. Whatheadless Drupal? And I don't
know what it's on now, but we'vegone through a couple of
upgrades, and it's there. Thankyou, Sir Paul couture, and so
we, as part of our our model,which is the value for value

(01:31:30):
model, which is a roller coasterride, it took us quite a while
to to stabilize, and it neverreally is. It's, you know, it's
up, it's down, it's up, it'sdown. And for those of you
playing along at home, if youwant to do a value for value
podcast, emulate what we'redoing, you know, and ask people
to support you and thank themwhen they support you. And send

(01:31:51):
a newsletter. I cannot stresshow important that people don't
do that. They just don't do it.John and it is so important to
send a newsletter the day beforepeople have busy lives. And
another thing, if you're doing apodcast, try to release it
around the same time on the sameday consistently. People, if it

(01:32:12):
doesn't show up, people willfind another podcast, and you
might lose them for good. It'sthese are simple tips

John C Dvorak (01:32:21):
marketing. One

Adam Curry (01:32:23):
marketing, oh, point nine. But people don't do it.
People like, oh, good writingnewsletter, get chat GPT to do
it for you. What? Do something.So we want to thank Taunton
Neil, a true Dutch master who isnot a an AI prompt jockey. She
is someone who really does thework, and she's been doing it

(01:32:43):
consistently for a long time.She brought us the artwork for
episode 1706 which we titlednerd and knucklehead. A lot of
people had nerd and knuckleheadart that they submitted, but we
like the que Mala, which is, Ilike this, this cartoon type
format that she did with thewhat is it with the dots? What
is that called? It's got to besome there's got to be some

(01:33:05):
printing term for that cartoondots. What? Well, you looking at
the art? Do you see it? It lookslike a cartoon with dots.

John C Dvorak (01:33:15):
I don't see the dots. Well, it's

Adam Curry (01:33:17):
dots. It's like a cartoon that's made up of dots.

Unknown (01:33:21):
Dots

John C Dvorak (01:33:24):
Oh, yeah. It's like, this got a screen over it.
Yeah? It's like, it's like,screened,

Adam Curry (01:33:29):
okay, isn't it? What's

John C Dvorak (01:33:31):
the dots? By the way, I'll say this, yeah, those
dots appear more dot like to youthan they do to anyone else.
Very, very sudden. Well,

Adam Curry (01:33:40):
I have it in big end. I I'm looking at the five
512 by 512 image.

John C Dvorak (01:33:44):
I'm looking at the 512 by 512 and the dots are
very hard to see because i

Adam Curry (01:33:48):
What is that artist name? Who always who? Very
famous artist who does these.nonot, no, I

John C Dvorak (01:33:57):
know who it is. Not Leroy Ross. And, no, I'm

Adam Curry (01:34:01):
not even close. It's, yeah, I'm

John C Dvorak (01:34:03):
getting it Lichtenstein, LinkedIn,

Adam Curry (01:34:05):
Stein There you go. Nailed it. Lichtenstein. They

John C Dvorak (01:34:10):
get the other name, Roy. Roy. Lichtenstein,
Roy. Good old Roy. Thank

Adam Curry (01:34:14):
you exactly. Yeah, it's newsprint, basically, and
we liked it. We liked it a lot,and we appreciate you. Tanta
Neal, who is up? Is she on theleaderboard? Let me see that the
leaderboard is let me see Nickthe rat still number one of all
time. Darren was on

John C Dvorak (01:34:30):
her because he just when he was doing them, he
was just doing them and doingthem and doing me. Never stop.
She's number six on theleaderboard. She's actually
behind comic strip blogger,which is a shocker.

Adam Curry (01:34:44):
It is 52 times her art has been chosen. Let's look
at the rolling six monthaverage. Scaramanga is at the
top. Dame Kenny been anotherDutch Master is second place.
Let's look at the rollingannual. Tanta Neal is in fourth
place. Yes, and rolling 90 days.Uh, boy, she drops off there.

(01:35:05):
She was gone for a bit, I guess.But she's

John C Dvorak (01:35:07):
rolling six months. She's in third. Yeah,
yeah.

Adam Curry (01:35:10):
It's two Dutch masters that we got. Dame Kenny
been and, uh, tanta Neal, it'sso good. Well, thank you very
much, tanta Neal, but let's takea look at some of the other art
that was submitted.

John C Dvorak (01:35:21):
She's actually tied for a second. Oh,

Adam Curry (01:35:24):
there you go. Let's see 1706. We had, uh, nerds,
knuckleheads, which, by the way,

John C Dvorak (01:35:35):
uh, well, first of all, let's just say this nest
works. Yes, this was not a greatselection to choose from, and
nerds

Adam Curry (01:35:41):
and knuckleheads networks. You misspelled
knuckleheads? Yes, so that was aproblem. Yeah, that's

John C Dvorak (01:35:52):
no good. That's no good.

Adam Curry (01:35:56):
But now the lots of AI, of course, which is my eyes
just glaze over from this stuff.There's the kemala, there's a
donkey screwing or the elephantscrewing a donkey. I mean, come
on, yeah, we're not doing thoseTrump with Hitler mustaches. I

John C Dvorak (01:36:14):
mean, Harley creative,

Adam Curry (01:36:16):
not very It's like in, you know, the AI stuff. I
don't even mind it, but it'sthe, where's the creativity you,
of course, immediately your eyeswere drawn to sex event today.
Oh, Scara mango's got a sexybabe. You like that? I

John C Dvorak (01:36:32):
wasn't promoting that one. I mean, I did like it,
but I didn't push it.

Adam Curry (01:36:37):
And, well, that was it, wasn't it that you hate, you

John C Dvorak (01:36:39):
hate the women. So I didn't want to overdo it.
Oh, okay,

Adam Curry (01:36:43):
I'm sorry. I forgot how much I hate women. Yeah, and
dogs, and, and, well, no, that'sthat's been proven to be fake
news. Yes,

John C Dvorak (01:36:51):
you're right. The dog thing was a although I still
question whether you like dogs.Before you got this, this latest
dog of yours,

Adam Curry (01:37:00):
I had dogs in the past, you remember I had dogs.
Had dogs cats, yes, three dogs,yeah, three dogs and three cats.
At one point, for a long time,too,

John C Dvorak (01:37:10):
three dogs and three cats. Yes, yes, yes,

Adam Curry (01:37:13):
all I had a kennel. Um, that's it. There wasn't.
There was a there was nothingelse really worth mentioning.
But thank you very much. TantaNeal comes through, saves the
day with their que Mala, whichis great, and everybody loved
it. A lot of people sent menotes. Oh, best art ever. It's
always best art ever. The bestever. It was best ever. Thank

(01:37:35):
you so much, tanta Neal, weappreciate it. Now we move to
the treasure portion of the 3tof value for value, time, talent
and treasure, man was anotherconversation we have a like a
social network for thedevelopers at podcast index dot
social. And it's always the samething. There's always some guy

(01:37:58):
that says, well, value forvalue. I mean, that's like if I
go to a coffee shop and I askfor a coffee, get a coffee, and
they say five bucks. I got valuefor value? No, that's not how it
works. Oh, you're saying it'stips. No, no. Oh, it's busking.
That's always my favorite busky.We're we're busking. No, we

(01:38:20):
learned early on that we giveyou the show in all its glory,
full on, all premium content allthe way, nothing else but the
good stuff, nothing hidden,nothing held back. And then you
just decide what it's worth toyou. And from time to time, or
as often as you want, you sendus something that represents

(01:38:40):
that is that another to Bucha,

John C Dvorak (01:38:42):
and it only works for ethereal products. It
doesn't work for cups of coffee,ethereal products, like public
broadcasting, for example, theythey relied on it. Church
sermonizing, churches, services.It's like some people, they pass
the thing around, and you'veWhat is this worth to you? And

(01:39:03):
you put your money in anenvelope, usually, so you don't
embarrass yourself, even thoughI think the you should make it
envelopes show the 100 bucks. I

Adam Curry (01:39:13):
think these days they just pop a QR code, send us
a Venmo. No. So instead, we justask you to send back whatever
value you get from the show andand this, of course, being a
celebratory episode, we also, asis the final, the final
opportunity for the Commodorepromotion, which is just a

(01:39:36):
beautiful you will like thisCommodore thing.

John C Dvorak (01:39:39):
Yeah, anyone says, males in Ford. And we also
had a note today from anAustralian saying, it turns out
that $333 is the Commodoredonation in Australia. It turns
out to be 504 which I thoughtwas cute. Somebody says, Where
can I get a Commodore ship? Yes,you could. And we're gonna get
we extend it a week for. TheAustralians who you know that,

(01:40:02):
or there's one person inparticular,

Adam Curry (01:40:03):
so the Australians can send 500 australian dollar
reduce,

John C Dvorak (01:40:07):
no, three through 33 Australian No, you're going
the wrong. $500 reduce is $333isn't that interesting.

Adam Curry (01:40:16):
And because we appreciate them, because they
still use something called thedollar. We're honoring that
which is all with the Canadians,which you always do, yeah, with
the and then the New Zealand'shave the dollar to or the we
don't hear from

John C Dvorak (01:40:29):
the New Zealand's hate us.

Adam Curry (01:40:33):
Just Cinder She's ruined it for us. No. So we like
to thank a number of people in aspecial segment, the ones who
really stepped up and came in,we call them our executive and
Associate Executive producers.Why? Because they're doing
exactly what executive andAssociate Executive producers
do, which is they support theproduct. And so if you come in

(01:40:55):
$200 or above, you get anAssociate Executive producer
credit. And that is a creditthat is real. It is forever. It
is you can use it forever andever and ever, and it will vouch
for you. As long as we're live,we'll vouch for you. And you can
put on your resume. You can putin your LinkedIn business cards,
business Yep, exactly. Orimdb.com, if anyone you know,

(01:41:18):
when you say, Oh, I'm a is itwhat? You're an executive
producer? Yeah, I'm on imdb.com,Oh, that'll shut someone up real
quick. It's a good one. And it'skind of like editor at large, in
a way, only it's the real deal.You

John C Dvorak (01:41:35):
don't want to be fat. If you can be fat. It used
to be called editor is large.You

Adam Curry (01:41:42):
can be changed it as fat or skinny as you want to
produce, to produce the noagenda show. So $300 above,
executive producer, and we readyour note, and we're going to
kick it off again, celebratoryepisode for 17 years. And right
off the bat, here we go hangout. Mike standby, 33 333. 33

(01:42:05):
rubbilizer out that is DavidRosa from Clarkson, Michigan,
comes in with the rubbleizer,donation, 333, 3.33. Thank you
so much. And he says, John andAdam, it's my anniversary. No
wait, it's your anniversary. Nowait, it's both our
anniversaries. That's correct.You're a producer. I'm looking

(01:42:27):
forward to celebrating four moreanniversaries with the best
podcast in the universe.Normally, I'd ask for no
jingles, no karma, but rubblies, a jingle is obligatory,
and I just gave it to you. Thankyou, David, that is fantastic.
Very generous. Thank you forblessing us with that

John C Dvorak (01:42:43):
game, lady. But is this, get over get Logan. Get
over over it. Get over it.Hello, hello. I'm doing it now.
Yeah,

Adam Curry (01:42:54):
you're not personal. No, I've contaminated you, and
I'm healed. I

John C Dvorak (01:42:59):
will see, we'll see, because I keep saying it,
it's gonna come back. Monroe,Washington. I don't even know
where that is, but she came inwith $1,500 and says, Dear pod
Father, please forgive me. It'sbeen two years since my last
donation, where I thank you forthe successful baby making
karma. Johnson was powerful

Adam Curry (01:43:20):
stuff. You can win football games. You can make
babies. It's all there. Name

John C Dvorak (01:43:24):
the baby? John C Adam, no, that's what she says.

Adam Curry (01:43:32):
Show me a birth certificate. J, a, h, n, s, I,
E. John C Adam, you know whatI'm gonna choose to believe it.
I believe there's a kid outthere named John C Adam. I
believe

John C Dvorak (01:43:45):
born July 2023, and we're now expecting our
second human resource. I wouldlike to share this Commodore
ship with my husband. So there'stwo of them involved here. I
guess two Commodore ships. Ithelps

Adam Curry (01:43:57):
when baby making process, and the

John C Dvorak (01:43:59):
best and and best friend, sir hop Scott. So we
have three of the digital horde.Unfortunately, he is dead, a
deadbeat, mofax, mofax deadbeat,as a mofax deadbeat, and he is
an amazing father and husband. Iwould like, if I can make sense
of that what she just said, Iwould like the third portion to

(01:44:21):
go to sir. Billy Bones, oh.Billy Bones. Billy Bones, yeah.
Billy Bones, he cooks, hecleans. He's a minister of
fungi. He makes music. He's apodcast. He's a woodworker, and
he's single. Ladies, there wego. I'm saying he's good with
two hands, and now he's aCommodore. I would appreciate

(01:44:44):
jobs karma, because my employersucks. Thank you for your
courage. Love is lit, Dame lady,get over it.

Unknown (01:44:52):
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs karma.

Adam Curry (01:44:59):
You. Yes, a regular polymath, sir. Billy Bones is
Jennifer Hughes comes in with$1,030.26 and says, Congrats on
17 years. I want to say thanksfor your immediate
deconstruction. I'm acompounding pharmacist and a fan
of John's endorsement for theClearly Filtered pitcher. All

(01:45:21):
right, and I'd like to be calledDame Jen, legal drug dealer of
the Cedar Valley. No jingles, nokarma, no exit strategy. All
right, Dame Jen, you'll be up onthe podium later. Huh? Uh,

John C Dvorak (01:45:34):
Tyler systems LLC in uh, Alaska, Alaska, $1,030.26
thanks partly to the wisdomsheet he writes, thanks partly
to the wisdom and strength Ihave received from your show. I
can make a celebratory donationfor my new company, Tyler
systems LLC of Alaska. I'veworked on and off, first with

(01:45:58):
startups in the tech industryglobally since I was 16. Wow.
I'm 32 now, twice as old, andI'm still working a full time
job. Well, my new business getsoff the ground. I'm starting
with offering AI poweredworkflow, automation services
and consulting, but aspire togrow the company into a

(01:46:19):
regional, Arctic AI and ITleader. I'm hoping we can build
a business based on trust andtreating people well, instead of
spying on our customers andripping them off the tech
industry norm. He puts inparentheses there, I humbly
request to be named Sir Tyler inAlaska. I just need a name, as

(01:46:42):
there's plenty of land here intesting Dvorak's cold read
skills, I'm wondering if he'llread aloud. Tyler systems, they
do great work in real time. So Ican quote a testimonial from the
famous podcaster and renownedtech journalist retired you'll
find that That quote on the newwebsite coming soon. Meredith,

(01:47:19):
www, reach out to Tyler systems.Tyler Tyler systems.com in the
interim, with gratitude from oneof your many motivated
millennials. Tyler and Alaska,all

Adam Curry (01:47:33):
right, we love the motivated millennials. I guess
these are $1,000 PayPals withfees added,

John C Dvorak (01:47:42):
I'm guessing, yet that would be righteous
appreciated.

Adam Curry (01:47:45):
And Craig Allen did the same. 1030 and 26 Hello.
John Adam, this is a no brainer.For the past few weeks, I've
seen 33 everywhere. I knew I hadto donate with this offering. I
wasn't going to hesitate. Nojingles, just karma for the
knighthood. Knight me, sir,Craig Allen of Gila River. Thing
is Gila or Gila, let's say GilaGila River. And that's,

John C Dvorak (01:48:06):
I think it's Gila Gila, like Gila monster,

Adam Curry (01:48:09):
Gila, sir, Craig Allen of Gila River, and he's in
sakaton, Arizona. You got it,brother,

Unknown (01:48:19):
you've got karma. Ryan

John C Dvorak (01:48:22):
Jones and cambie, Indiana, 560, oh 656065, small
sets of boobs. It's been a whilesince I last donated. I knew I
was time to give you back somevalue for the show. Several
signs in the several signs inthe life lately, pointed me to

(01:48:44):
donate to no agenda, like thename of Vince McMahon giving
facial expressions, like thememe, the meme, I'm sorry, the
meme of Vince McMahon give.Okay, I don't know why that
would be associative, but okay.First, it was buying some
gigawatt coffee from Eli, thecoffee guy, by the way, and then
including some nice handwrittennotes sprinkled with our

(01:49:05):
favorite no agenda phrases,don't forget to use ITM 20 at
checkout, or code bung Geno thesecond time, the second time
life reminded me to donate waswas sitting at a gate in an
airport a couple weeks agowatching a guy fist his bag of
nuts while he stood waiting forthe boarding to begin. I know

(01:49:26):
John C doesn't like that jingle,so I won't request it, but if
it's played, always gets a laughout of me. The third sign I knew
it was right time to donate wasthe Commodore donation. I'm
proud to accept the Commodoreranking and happy to help
executive produce this fineepisode of the no agenda show. I
humbly request some you've gotkarma due to climate change to

(01:49:50):
assist me in life ahead, in thelife ahead. Thank you for your
courage in four more years. RyanJones,

Unknown (01:49:57):
okay, you've got karma.
Due to climate change.

Adam Curry (01:50:03):
And Sir Tom is in St Paul Minneapolis, 555, dot 10,
555, dot 10. He says it's beenlonger than I care to admit,
since my last donation. So it'shigh time to make amends and up
the ante. See people do this,and that's appreciated. You
could that's a completely validway of supporting the show as
the originator of the doublenickels on the dime. Donation,

(01:50:24):
Way Back Episode 179 a herebydonate 5510 that's the double
nickels on the dime, and chip inan additional 500 for a
Commodore commission to be knownas a triple nickels on the dime.
Donation. You've named it.You've claimed it good to go. I
would like to officially updatemy title to surveyor, Commodore

(01:50:47):
of the northern and northwesternlakes. A bit of trivia. This is
always good. The Great Lakeswere generally referred to as
the northern and northwesternlakes on navigation charts up to
the early 1900s Well, this issomething I did not know.

John C Dvorak (01:51:04):
Wow, useless information for a jingle, please

Adam Curry (01:51:07):
play trains, good planes, bad. Thanks all

Unknown (01:51:10):
aboard trains, good
planes, bad. Thank you.

Adam Curry (01:51:16):
Brother. Very nice. Greg

John C Dvorak (01:51:19):
Clifton in Morgan field, Kentucky, uh, 55 3342,
and he did send in a note, whichI was jump over to, which is a
handwritten note. I don't haveit. I've been running into

Adam Curry (01:51:33):
the show for almost four years, and I have never
missed an episode since springof 2021 y'all are the best.
Congratulations on 17 years. I'mmailing this note and a paper
check to save those nasty fees.Like John, my father was a
Kentucky Colonel, so I could notpass up the opportunity to
become a commodore of the bestpodcast in the universe. This

(01:51:55):
donation also qualifies me forknighthood. Please Knight me,
Sir cliffy at the round table, abottle of, what is this? Eagle
row bourbon. Eagle. Can youread, you know, you can't read
it.

John C Dvorak (01:52:09):
No, I have it right here. Let's see, where
does he see the bourbon on here?You

Adam Curry (01:52:13):
gotta tell me what it is, because I haven't put
that on the on the order list.That's

John C Dvorak (01:52:16):
the round table. Like about Eagle rare.

Adam Curry (01:52:20):
Oh Eagle, rare bourbon. Okay, yeah, and what
else did he have there?

John C Dvorak (01:52:24):
And a 902 filet cooked. Medium rare would be
much appreciated. A 902

Adam Curry (01:52:33):
medium filet. 902 medium, medium rare. Medium
filet cooks. Okay, I got to putthis through the kitchen.

John C Dvorak (01:52:44):
Well, they're not very good at hitting the number
on the on the cooking. They'revery good at it. What

Adam Curry (01:52:49):
are you talking about? No, they're

John C Dvorak (01:52:51):
not good.

Adam Curry (01:52:53):
Okay. You want to finish this note, yeah. Jingles,

John C Dvorak (01:52:56):
please play mac and cheese and boogity. Thank
you both for your courage andespecially to Adam when sharing
you your faith, oh, and faith inJesus Christ, what a platform
you have to show the god thegood news. Share the good news,
yes, yeah, good news, not onlyon your show, but also places

(01:53:20):
like Rogan Sure. Cheers to youboth for four more years, and
may you never find an exitstrategy. Yours truly, soon to
be sir cliffy,

Unknown (01:53:34):
few slaves can get used to mac and cheese,

John C Dvorak (01:53:37):
mac and cheese, mac and cheese, macaroni and
cheap chatter melted together,

Unknown (01:53:41):
mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese.

Adam Curry (01:53:52):
And we go to Sir Roger with 533 dot 33 and he
says, Sir Roger of the boroughof hats here, congrats on 17
years for my Commodore ship willjust go with Commodore Roger. I
could also use an F cancer formy niece. Thank you for your
courage. In four more years,

Unknown (01:54:13):
you've got karma.

John C Dvorak (01:54:16):
I should remind Roger and the others. Did you
have to go to go to no agendarings.com, and fill out the form
for the Commodore certificate?So we sent it to the right place
with the right name on it, righton Dame lazardi in La La harp,
Kansas, 517, 33 and this is aSwitcheroo. Happy 17th

(01:54:41):
anniversary. This Commodore shipis being given to Matt the metal
Bender upon from his beautiful,smoking hot wife, if I do say so
myself, says Dame lazardi, yougo for help him get halfway to
his knighthood. He is a fittingi. It is a fitting title, as he

(01:55:02):
loved his home in the new USNavy years ago. Oh, it's time in
the US. I can't, sorry, blurryvision, Please play the full.
Reverend Al respect, a role along, long version and jobs.
Goat, karma, thank you for yourcourage. Matt. Leroy, Dame
lazardi,

Unknown (01:55:26):
he's getting lunch at triple A, the tortoise

Adam Curry (01:55:33):
in the race. Kim Kardashian,

Unknown (01:55:36):
sigonoy Weaver, E, s, p, i, C, T, they're all G, E, s,
p, i, c t, there's no realconflict. Resist. We must resist
just a little bit. We must, justa little bit. We must, and we

(01:55:57):
will much about it that just letthat
be committed jobs, jobs, jobsand jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Adam Curry (01:56:11):
Carmen, that well worth it. I haven't played the
long version in a while, Robert,

John C Dvorak (01:56:15):
we will much be committed.

Adam Curry (01:56:18):
Robert kerback, kerbak kerback, essexville,
Michigan, $500 so we presumethat's a Commodore ship. You'll
go to no agenda. Rings calm toenter all the information. No
notes. You get a double upkarma. Karma. I'll grab the next
one to make it easy on my mypartner here, Ray Harris in

(01:56:41):
Holt, Michigan. A lot ofMichiganders, $500 ITM Adam and
John, longtime listener of manyyears here, after being
endlessly reminded of my douchebag status by my smoking hot
girlfriend, Lisa Dame Ciceroneof cat land, it is time for me
to finally donate please. Dedouche

Unknown (01:56:59):
you've been deduced I

Adam Curry (01:57:02):
would like to be known as Commodore Harris.
Please play rubbish andchemtrails. Stand

Unknown (01:57:09):
by 3333
33 rubbilizer out

John C Dvorak (01:57:20):
by Anne Rand Dimitri, Hossein. Hossein
Hossein in Stahl, Hill style,hilly style. He Oh, it's some
Belgian is in Belgium stall,

Adam Curry (01:57:33):
Hill style, Hill style.

John C Dvorak (01:57:37):
500 tired of being a douche bag. If you would
kindly deduce me, you've beendeduced. We need more belgiums.
Listening to this show, nojingles, no karma. Love the show
for a Commodore ship title youcan call me Commodores skeleton
skellen. Maybe Adam might getthis. Get it, you get it? Adam,

(01:58:02):
kind regards to some sort of apun or joke. Adam supposed to
get it.

Adam Curry (01:58:07):
Scound getting it, I do not remember. No. Agenda

John C Dvorak (01:58:13):
rings calm, yes, go there for sure to get your
give us the details. Anonymous

Adam Curry (01:58:19):
comes in from Lakewood, Washington with 500
switcheroo. Please grant thiscommenter title to Sharky, the
guy who hit me in the moutharound three years ago. And I
thank God for that. Thank you.He says You're welcome,

John C Dvorak (01:58:34):
sir EA of the tax domain in Clarkston, Michigan,
and that's another one.Michigander, interest 500
Commodore, EA, sir EA, of thetext domain, Baron PhD, oh, he's

Adam Curry (01:58:48):
got all the titles, very nice. Got

John C Dvorak (01:58:49):
it made. Aubin

Adam Curry (01:58:50):
Q. Aubin Q in Anchorage Alaska, the and the
Alaskan Ian's are into $500 Hey,gents. Aubin Q from Anchorage
Alaska. Semi douche bag here,$20.18 monthly subscription
Since 2018 but listeners Since2014 could not say no to such a
title as Commodore. So amazing.I would like to be Commodore Q

(01:59:13):
of D, L, more. Can I get an IPA?Well, that's you don't really
get Ah, screw it. 70thanniversary, I'm gonna order an
IPA in a club Paris. Filet form,just a quick ants and some
relationship and job karma. Ifyou could four more years? Well,
we'll give you a very quickanswer. Then, in that case, it's

(01:59:34):
our favorite ant jingle. What doyou got?

Unknown (01:59:37):
I got ants. I
I got hands
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs, let'svote for jobs.

John C Dvorak (01:59:58):
Zachary, stock still. All in Odessa, Texas, 500
Commodore Zachary stock still,aka Baron Grease Monkey, that's
all he says, perfect.

Adam Curry (02:00:13):
We've got Oh, sir. Patrick cobal, Hey, good to hear
from you, Sir Patrick, 500 happy17th anniversary. Now Duke of
the South becomes the commodoreof the South. I could use some
Trump's jobs, business karma, ifyou have any. Thank you both for
all you do and the team. Allright. Thank you to the team.
That's beautiful man. Thank youso much. Jobs, jobs,

Unknown (02:00:38):
you've got a karma.

John C Dvorak (02:00:41):
Jim Turner, Louisville, Kentucky, 500 Hi.
TM, gentlemen, happy 17th andthe best podcast. Universe, I
could not, in good conscience,let this opportunity to become a
no agenda Commodore pass by. Iwas dubious. At first, as a born
and raised Kentuckian and arecently retired Army Colonel, I
was taken aback and disappointedto find that my state had

(02:01:02):
bestowed the honor of KentuckyColonel on the mere transient
such as John, while I am left offlounder as a mere peasant.
Alas, I swallowed my pride andthought it appropriate to add
the title of Commodore andeventually hang the certificate
next time I know agenda PhD fourmore years. Do jingles, just

(02:01:22):
some jobs, karma. Jim Turner,Commodore, Sir James of the
Darby city. PhD, Louisville,Kentucky. PS, uh, oops, sorry,

Adam Curry (02:01:31):
yes,

John C Dvorak (02:01:31):
I was debunked when I was passed along John's
Tip of the Day. I was debunkedwhen I passed on John's
typically regarding this graygoose at Costcos fancy vodka, I
was promptly provided with newsarticle refuting John's
assertion, evidence to to rebuy.Okay, the thing is that gray

(02:01:57):
goose was produced in the thatCostco vodkas is French, and
it's produced in the old graygoose factory using the gray
goose gear. And I think it wastaken over by some other
company, but that's, it's graygoose. I mean, just have a
bottle of Italian. Smell good.Tell

Adam Curry (02:02:16):
me that's not gray goose. Yes,

John C Dvorak (02:02:18):
it's good stuff that. Okay, yeah, all right,
technically, maybe

Adam Curry (02:02:28):
let's see we have anonymous Charlotte, North
Carolina, 500 please creditproducership and Commodore ship
to George P Burdell. No agenda.Saves my sanity, no jingles,
just karma. Thanks.

Unknown (02:02:45):
You've got karma and JJ,

John C Dvorak (02:02:49):
K, Nathan, Nolan, Nederland, Texas, neither. 500

Adam Curry (02:02:53):
Nederland,

John C Dvorak (02:02:54):
is it Nederland? Nederland,

Adam Curry (02:02:55):
yeah,

John C Dvorak (02:02:58):
it you think it would have 2e then, don't

Adam Curry (02:03:00):
you? No, I don't

John C Dvorak (02:03:03):
we. Any normal person would think so we

Adam Curry (02:03:05):
spell Bernie, B, O, E, R, N, E, I mean, come on.
We're crazy here. We're out ofcontrol.

John C Dvorak (02:03:11):
We don't say Nederland, Texas at $500 all is
just simple. 70th anniversarycommodore of Nederland, yes,

Adam Curry (02:03:20):
Keaton stone, Indianapolis, Indiana, 500 in
the morning. I am Gen Z, secondyear apprentice plumber welder
in Indiana. Clap for you. Gen Z,you're gonna, you're gonna be
the richest one on the blog.Probably, you can't go wrong. I
couldn't resist getting myCommodore title. I would be
known as commodore of theIndiana stones, and he would

(02:03:43):
like climate change. Oh, due toclimate change, and they're
eating the dogs. So I'll playthem in opposite order for you.
Thank you for your courage.They're

Unknown (02:03:53):
eating the dogs due
to climate change.

John C Dvorak (02:03:58):
It just remains funny. Patrick Brown's Boris,
they would say in Texas. Patrickbrownie, Fairfax, Virginia.
Thank you for your courage. ITMrequesting dude named Ben, if
requests are even a thing forCommodore ships, thanks again.
Yes,

Adam Curry (02:04:15):
you can be Commodore. Dude named Ben,
absolutely. Yeah, just

John C Dvorak (02:04:17):
fill out the go to no agenda rings.com and, by
the way, people sending indonation notes. Make sure to put
donation in the subject line.Thank you. Andrew

Adam Curry (02:04:26):
Perez, San Marcos, Texas, not far from here, 500
ITM gents, congrats on 17 years.I'll be a knight as well. Please
Knight me, sir. P rez, Commodoreof FL 330 that's flight level
330 that's 33,000 feet as aretired Navy guy, this promotion
scratches me where I itch. JCD,he says, What is a shaggy dog

(02:04:50):
story?

John C Dvorak (02:04:53):
The shaggy dog story, which was, if you ever
got to see the old PBS show thatwhich is out of England.
Actually, it was called thetube. Ronnie's, one of the
Ronnies would do a shaggy dogstory once during the show is
comedian. Shaggy dog story isand you and you always, there's
always some guy in the office.Get, get the can tell a shaggy
dog story. Shaggy dog story is astory that one is like, pretty

(02:05:16):
much the way Trump talks. We'veit wanders off the topic and off
the topic and off the topic. Andthen it comes kind of back
around to what the point was.And then has a pun at the end,
like, hey, Roy, is that the catthat chewed your new shoes or
something like that, some reallylame pun that's always a

(02:05:37):
groaner, and it takes about fiveto 10 minutes to tell. And a
good shaggy dog guy who can tella good shaggy dog story kind of
keeps you it's funnier thetelling of the joke is funnier
than than the punchline. That'sthe shaggy dog story. I had no
idea. You've heard them.

Adam Curry (02:05:51):
I had no idea it originated with the Two Ronnies.
No,

John C Dvorak (02:05:55):
it didn't originate. It's just that he was
one of the best at telling him,okay,

Adam Curry (02:05:58):
no jingles, no karma. Four more years, he says,

John C Dvorak (02:06:04):
four more years, sir. Cut board, that's funny
because it's spelled B, O, R, E,D, like sir. Cut board in
Terrence Park, Ohio, it's mybirthday too. Love you guys,
sir. Cut board, $500 Jeremy

Adam Curry (02:06:21):
fort in Jerome, Indiana, 500 podcast, startup
karma. Hey, hit me up. I'll giveyou some tips. I want to be
Commodore fort and the triofleet. I have three daughters.
Blessings to you both. Jeremyfort, Jerome, Idaho, all right.
Podcast, startup karma for you.Here you go. You've got
podcasts, you've got karma,

John C Dvorak (02:06:44):
uh, Dame me outison, oh

Adam Curry (02:06:46):
yeah, Dame Yeah. She's a fan favorite,

John C Dvorak (02:06:50):
a fan favorite. Now Elta Mont Springs, Florida.
She's a Floridian. And she says,Hello, boys. Uh, Dame me
outison, here asking for aCommodore tile. Yes, I will go
to no agenda rings.com, andFauci instructions. Good for
Yeah, good. But I got a notefrom some one of our female

(02:07:11):
producers, yeah, women don'twant these Commodore ships. It
was grouchy, really.

Adam Curry (02:07:17):
And what did you say? Yes,

John C Dvorak (02:07:19):
I didn't say anything. You

Adam Curry (02:07:21):
didn't reply. Oh, you're not replied

John C Dvorak (02:07:23):
about sons. It was a long note. I didn't reply
about that. I was getting veryclose to to Countess status. And
I would like to say thank youboth for always being a source
of knowledge and smiles. I'mgrateful for the show and the
community, the community. Hey,she writes, yes, connection
truly is protection. I shallmeet some awesome people at the

(02:07:45):
Oka. Oka, ok show okie at theYeah, you two have inspired me
to start a value for valueYouTube channel to share my love
of yoga. Oh, I'll be sure tosend an update when I'm ready to
drop the channel. However, smashthat. Pick it up. I

Adam Curry (02:08:07):
button. Everybody, smash

John C Dvorak (02:08:10):
it. However, I must air a tiny grievance. Comes
that I was a bit let down inJuly when I sent in a
handwritten card and check withbagels on it. Beagles mentioned
it. Beagles

Adam Curry (02:08:27):
not bagels. Oh,

John C Dvorak (02:08:28):
they said bagels. Talk about a sad puppy. Oh, I
picked them out especially foryou too. I will look past it,
though, because you guys arefantastic. I'm sorry, love you
mean it, uh, John, it's on mybucket list to meet you one day.
So if you plan on any bigmeetups, please let the people
know there's gonna be one inEmeryville next month. Uh, but

(02:08:51):
it's long, way too far to drivemonth. Uh, you've got fans,
jingles, climate gate and themulti language ITM please and
on. Thank you. Thank theSwifties for Trump. So she says,
Thank you. And then Swifties forTrump, she's

Adam Curry (02:09:08):
a swift she's a Swifty

Unknown (02:09:11):
to the gate, to the gate, to the gate. I'm

Adam Curry (02:09:24):
then we move to Sir il pop di si crismo aviero,
Portugal, that's right,Portugal. I think we have a meet
up report from Portugal comingup later on. Dear John Adam,
last Friday, I along with my Ohyes, I, along with my wife,
attended the Porto portal meetup. Porto portal meet up, get

(02:09:45):
up, where I met Sir artlesschance and his lovely wife.
Beers and sausages wereconsumed, and we exchanged
numbers for reconnecting whenneeded this. That's the
connection is protection. It wasfun to meet open minded people.
It was a small meetup, but atmost. This excellent meet up. It
was Thank you, sir artlesschance. We are looking forward
to the next event here in thePortugal, Spain region. Please

(02:10:07):
for my Commodore name, I wouldlike to become Commodore sir il
Pope di si crismo. And thisdonation brings me to Baronet
level. And I would like to beknown as Baronet sir il Pope di
si crismo. A heartfelt thank toboth of you and to 17 more
years, dream on Sir ill Popedeclesmo, a proud, no agenda,
Black Knight and allegedly acriminal of sort, yeah, because

(02:10:30):
he lives in Portugal. Jingles. Ifelt something warm on my leg
due to climate change and somekarma. I just felt something hot
on my legs due

Unknown (02:10:39):
to climate change,
you've got karma.

John C Dvorak (02:10:47):
David West is in Marysville, Washington, 500 to
John and Adam. I've beenlistening somewhere around
somewhere since show 700 withclock boy.

Adam Curry (02:10:58):
Remember clock boy? Whatever happened to clock boy,
they moved

John C Dvorak (02:11:02):
their whole family left and went to the
Middle East, where they belong.Remember

Adam Curry (02:11:06):
Obama was it was all in on. Clock boy, just because
of the color of his skin, theycalled him a terrorist. The dude
was walking around with whatlooked like a bomb at school.
Yeah.

John C Dvorak (02:11:19):
Clock Boy, that's what began the my being kicked
off the Twitch show.

Adam Curry (02:11:26):
Oh, that's right, because you, Oh, that's right,
that was the the catalyst you,you were a catalyst because you
were racist,

John C Dvorak (02:11:35):
because I said this clock boy thing was a scam.
I was in the mouth by my goodfriend George Lindholm, aka sir
art Vandelay. I had to get aCommodore tile before time ran
out. Also brings me theknighthood accounting below. I'd
like to be known as Sir JoeMcGillicuddy. I Love Lucy fans.

(02:11:56):
I recognize this. I appreciatebuddy, which is being replayed
on me TV endlessly. I appreciateyour pursuit of truth and
analyzing the news and Adam, I'mso happy you found salvation.
Jesus Christ, the ultimatesource of source of truth. Amen,
John, I appreciate yourskepticism. People should be
more skeptical, especially ofanything coming from the

(02:12:17):
government or the media. Here'sa plug for at least four more
years and no exit strategy. Godbless you both. A hope that
doesn't offend you. John DavidWest in Marysville, Washington,

Adam Curry (02:12:31):
so offended. Shannon vest is in Tacoma, Washington,
ah, we're out of the Commodoreships. We're now at 343, 75,
incredible. I am finallydonating. The Universe keeps
tossing three, three, threes inmy path. So I figured it was a
sign. Yes, it always is. Houseselling in health. Karma,
silver. Play happy. 17th fromTacoma, Washington. Please play

(02:12:54):
No no, no, no. Adams family andwhoop him with the Constitution.
Thank you. Okay,

Unknown (02:12:58):
you know what

Adam Curry (02:13:01):
class forget about this one.

Unknown (02:13:03):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, what? Listen,
you're in my house
drinking
the booze. No, no, no, no, no,no,
no. Shame on you. Whipping.

Adam Curry (02:13:23):
Another classic, yeah,

Unknown (02:13:41):
yeah,

Adam Curry (02:13:44):
Manning, forgot all

John C Dvorak (02:13:45):
about him, Corona and Erica, Netherlands. Is it
pronounced Erica,

Adam Curry (02:13:52):
Erica,

John C Dvorak (02:13:53):
Erica, ITM gents, I'm quitting my commentary
because I'm done. I'm done, andI don't feel like it anymore.
After more than 20 years, timefor something else. Negotiations
for the safe are on. For thesale are ongoing. I do not have
an exit strategy yet, so I haverecently started working in a
factory as a process operator.The night shifts are the best

(02:14:17):
with no agenda, the universe inmy earphones, but maybe the best
crypto in the universe is myexit strategy. Dome shot on the
go. Pulse chain launched on 911,2024, unlock tokens by unlocking
minds on Dome shot I always.iois an introductory video by co

(02:14:41):
founder, Matt long the donationdoes not bring me to knighthood
yet, but it does bring me to newagenda, Commodore. Yeah, you
know, the Commodore ships a oneshot donation. It's not a
cumulative one. So you may wantto reconsider this. You. We
don't know those special things,like the PhDs and things aren't

(02:15:03):
something to me. You don'taccumulate. You just buy
knighthoods. You can Yes, so youget a knighthood. I would like
to be appointed as the carcamera the father lands. Keep
with the good work. I would likesome karma for more years.
Greetings.

Adam Curry (02:15:19):
Corona. Curana

John C Dvorak (02:15:22):
Marte, Martin and Erica,

Adam Curry (02:15:25):
Erica, Erica, and you're gonna share this from
Erica.

John C Dvorak (02:15:30):
Shannon,

Adam Curry (02:15:31):
Scott karma. I forgot to give Shannon the
karma. No oot Erica means from,not from. Sir hair, heel, White
Salmon, Washington 333, dot. 33needs some jobs karma for my
interview this week. Last time Irequested too late, but not
making the same mistake thistime. Could also use some F

(02:15:51):
cancer karma from Sir hair,heels,

Unknown (02:15:58):
jobs, jobs and jobs, let's vote for

John C Dvorak (02:16:07):
jobs, Brian gardie and grand berry Texas, or
could be pronounced Greenberryor Berry

Unknown (02:16:15):
grambury.

John C Dvorak (02:16:17):
Granberry Texas came in with three and $33.33
got no no notes, so he getsdouble up karma,

Unknown (02:16:26):
you've got

Adam Curry (02:16:29):
karma. And then coming in from bensonville,
Illinois, and I'm happy, becausetoday I am, in fact, drinking
gigawatt Coffee Roasters,

John C Dvorak (02:16:40):
coffee. Yeah. Which specific one? The

Adam Curry (02:16:43):
black bag. That's the special, the specialty
coffee from the black bag. Thisis the Honduras Dark Roast
that's I've had. That's quitegood, very good. And he comes in
with 210, 27 gentlemen, congratson 17 years of high caliber
media deconstruction. Keep upthe good work. Jingles. He would

(02:17:05):
like an orange. Oh, hold on asecond. Where's orange? No, I'm
sorry I missed your missed yourorange. And then four more
years. Okay, four more years.We'll do it on the fly for you
and for producers who wantexcellent roasted coffee shipped
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ITM 20 for 20% off your orderstay caffeinated. Eli the coffee
guy,

John C Dvorak (02:17:41):
Fletcher, Chris Fisher, in a ton of one to one
New York, $203.33 as a long timelistener, I want to commend you
both for helping me hone myskills in studying media
deconstruction. I do want topoint out that this show has
started to get off centered, andstarting to lean little to that

(02:18:03):
point, I'm a center focusedDemocrat and embrace all sides
of the debate. I am a US Armyvet and law enforcement
professional, professional. Iwant you to know the that there
are still good Democrats outthere in local governments, and
I'm one of them. I'll keep mynotes short, which already too
long, just like you read thecoffee guy and the image makers

(02:18:27):
person's notes. My website iswww dot Chris fisher.org, and
people can see that there isstill a Democrat out there
working for the people. I focuson fixing sidewalks, fixing
elections and oh and so thatdoesn't say that fixing
sidewalks, amending localordinances and keeping property

(02:18:51):
tax increases from going throughthe roof. You know, it's not
like a Democrat at all. All Iask is that you and everyone
else check out thewww.chrisfisher.org. Uh, to see
that there are still centerDemocrats working for the
people. No karma, no jingles.Just okay, you can overdo it.

(02:19:11):
That's two one too many. Mydonation, 233 203 33 was sent
through stripe because just likeyou don't like act blue that I
use. I do not support PayPal. Ihad to add 333, to my $200
donation so I could get some airtime. If I

Adam Curry (02:19:29):
can just say we have nothing against Democrats in
general. You sound more like anold school Democrat to me. We
both have Democrats in ourfamilies, in our immediate
family, Democrat most of mylife. So we just don't like nut
job Democrats or nut jobRepublicans for that matter. And
I'm sorry, Kamala Harris fits inthe nut job Democrats in this

(02:19:51):
case. So that's why you feelwe're leaning a little bit.
We're just trying to keep peoplesane in the insanity. Thank you
for. Your promotion, Alex, inOttawa, Ontario, $200.33 Hi,
John Adam, I just got back fromthe Ottawa meetup. It was great
to meet this many like mindedpeople in the heart of Soviet

(02:20:13):
kakistan. Please deduce. You'vebeen deduced. And he would also
like a respect to m fororganizing. Hope to see everyone
at the next one. Alex fromOttawa,

Unknown (02:20:32):
E, s, p, i, C, T,

John C Dvorak (02:20:35):
yeah. Well, there she is. Linda lupekin, she's in
Lakewood, Colorado, andsurprisingly enough, request
jobs. Carmen says, Happyanniversary to the best podcast
in the universe. Love you meanit. And for the best resume in
the universe, work with LindaLou Duchess of jobs, and writer
of resumes, shortens, jobs,

Unknown (02:20:54):
jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Adam Curry (02:21:00):
Karma and I need to insert a Associate Executive
Producer donation here from RobCarty, who took us out to
dinner. It was semiembarrassing, but we're there at
the table. You know, there'seight people. He's like, Oh,
here. Hands an envelope. Thanks.He donated $200.33 and he has a

(02:21:21):
note. ITM Adam and John, pleaseaccept this check for $200.33
and with this donation, handdelivered to Adam on the show's
17th anniversary. Told you wecelebrated, I officially crossed
the threshold into knighthoodaccounting attached as Exhibit
one. He's a lawyer, so he didattach exhibit one. May it

(02:21:43):
please the parents committee.Codon, I humbly ask to be united
sir. Rob dot lawyer,constitutional lawyer, yes, Rob
dot lawyer is indeed a URL Texasand California producers should
bookmark it, because you justnever know when you'll need to
summon a dude in a suit.Seriously, put them on speed
dial for the accolade feast. Irespectfully request Texas

(02:22:06):
brisket and beans, along withsome brown Schweiger from my
smoking hot German wife, Maggiez is so high soon Also heads up
to all producers attendingMonday's Minneapolis Meet Up.
Please welcome my little sisterKatie Tierney and her husband,
Tom, these great Americans willbe in attendance, offering heaps
of cheer and effervescence. Irespectfully request the usual,

(02:22:29):
open up Adam curry jingle. Oh,that's right, I didn't get that
one either. Open up Adam curryjingle, yes, we got that one.
And what else does he want? Andkarma so that we may all form an
impenetrable cone of justiceover Gitmo nation. Sincerely.
Rob Carty, no agendas,constitutional lawyer, Mr. Adam

Unknown (02:22:57):
curry, you've got karma. That's

Adam Curry (02:22:58):
right. When I hear that sound, believe me, I will
be calling Rob.

John C Dvorak (02:23:04):
Well now you can read the longest note of the
day.

Adam Curry (02:23:07):
I just read a long note of the day. Do

John C Dvorak (02:23:09):
you haven't read the long, long note?

Adam Curry (02:23:13):
ANNIE breglia, Middleburg, New York, 200 I have
been listening and makingsustaining donations when I
could Since 2017 I want toexpress my gratitude for the
work you do. There is nowhereelse I can receive sustained and
balanced information regardingso much that I care deeply
about, most notably, trends thatintentionally cause harm to
children, our health and thestate of our nation. I learned a

(02:23:36):
great deal more in the bargain.Things about AI and helicopters
and I myself have changed. I'vebecome patriotic. I have
overcome much of the programmingof my youth. John, this is a
success note. I'm happy I get toread it and I get to laugh with
two allies through it all,assisting in the shrinkage of my
amygdala to celebrate all ofthis glory. Please play I got

(02:23:58):
ants. People love the ant song.I cannot imagine life without
you. I don't look forward toyour exit strategy, but I know
that everything changes. Youdeserve the best version of
reality that you can create. Toanyone who is listening and
benefiting, do the right thing.Donate gratitude and blessings
to you, both to your familiesand to all your listeners. From

(02:24:18):
Annie breglia In Middleburg, NewYork. Thank you very much.
Annie, $200 and AssociateExecutive producership for you
in the credits today, I gotants.

Unknown (02:24:34):
I got ants.
You've got karma.

Adam Curry (02:24:43):
There you go. That wraps up our executive and
Associate Executive producersfor Episode 1707 of the best
podcasts in the universe on our17th anniversary. Do people get
as a special 17th anniversaryproducership? Right? I presume
that's what

John C Dvorak (02:25:01):
we usually do. It is special, 17th special. So
it's

Adam Curry (02:25:05):
not just, oh, I'm a producer. No, I actually produce
the special, the 17thanniversary special. We
appreciate you all so much. Weappreciate everybody who
supports the show in any manner,time, talent or treasure. In
particular. Thank you to peoplewho take the time to go and set
up a sustaining donation, whichis any amount, any frequency you
set up yourself, you maintainit, and we'll be thanking people

(02:25:28):
$50 and above in just a littlebit. We do have more show to go.
And once again, thank you to ourexecutive and Associate
Executive producers for episode1707,

Unknown (02:25:38):
our formula is this, we go out, We hit people in

Adam Curry (02:25:59):
the mouth, yeah, oh, well, since, since we just had
that note from

Unknown (02:26:07):
Annie Annie

Adam Curry (02:26:10):
Megyn Kelly was on Bill Maher. I saw that, and I

John C Dvorak (02:26:15):
pulled she took him to the cleaners.

Adam Curry (02:26:17):
Wow, that you can say that, especially regarding
the trans Maoism, and I thoughtit was clip worthy, and would
like to share it with y'all.Almost equally

Unknown (02:26:27):
important, maybe, maybe as important is the what we're
doing to our children with thistrans insanity. And this is
almost my single issue. We arechopping off the healthy body
parts of young children without100% we are doing that. We are
definitely
doing without any Inquisition.What it is I
don't either pay attention. I'mabout to give you a truth bomb.

(02:26:50):
Kids who are suffering frombullying or who have been
sexually assaulted or who aregoing through normal puberty and
feel uncomfortable in theirbodies will say to their
parents, I'm not sure maybe I'mgender confused, they will send
them into a psychiatrist orpsychologist, who are told by
our organizations, the Americanpsychiatry Association, all the
others that run their licensing,you must affirm. Affirm is the

(02:27:11):
only standard. And so the childgets told you're right, you are
secretly a boy or vice versa,and the child gets put on
puberty blockers, into cross sexhormones, which sterilize a
child and deprive the child ofany chance of sexual pleasure
for the rest of his or her life.We're talking about 910, 11 year
olds who cannot give informedconsent. Then they have body

(02:27:32):
parts chopped off by a medicalestablishment and by parents who
mean well, but believe in thesedoctors and they shouldn't, and
when they inevitably get pastthe awkwardness of puberty or
what have you, and they want toturn around and de transition.
Those who love bomb them onReddit saying, Come on in. The
water is fine. Abandon them.They are depressed. They have

(02:27:52):
changed their bodies forever ina way that is irreversible, and
we are all sitting back sayingit's a remote issue, as Kamala
Harris said, it's not remote,it's the issue of our time, both
with respect to children andwomen's rights. And

Adam Curry (02:28:08):
with this comes a shocking, shocking story that
the New York Times publishedearlier this week, headline US
study on puberty blockers goesunpublished because of politics.
Doctor says, the leader of thelong running study Since 2015
said that the drugs did notimprove mental health in

(02:28:29):
children with gender distress,and that the finding might be
weaponized by opponents of thecare so she held back the
results of this study for almosta decade because, because, you
know, we were in a chargedAmerican political environment.

(02:28:51):
Dr Olson, Kennedy,

John C Dvorak (02:28:54):
I'm just waiting for it. I don't have a clip, but
a couple days ago, on KTVUchannel two shameful 10 O'Clock
News. It was a lawsuit going on,uh, kind of almost class action.
Was about five people trying tode transition. They're suing the
doctors. They're suingeverybody, but their parents
will get sued too. When thelegal establishment stuff like

(02:29:16):
this get out, their lawsuits aregoing to be flying. And these
people that think they'reguided, they're ahead of the
game on this, are foolingthemselves. This is going to be
one of the greatest Bonanzas. Isgoing to make asbestos look
like, you know, a picnic. Ah,is. They're going to be suing
left and right. And I think theparents are going to get caught

(02:29:36):
up in this. A lot of them aregoing to get sued by older but
kids, once they mature, and geta clue, it's this is a disaster
waiting to happen

Adam Curry (02:29:44):
almost as big as the disaster that's taking place in
your backyard.

Unknown (02:29:49):
A federal jury in San Francisco has awarded six former
Bart workers more than a milliondollars each over Bart's
handling of its employee, COVID19 vaccine mandate. This. Six
who objected to the mandate onreligious grounds and were fired
sued Bart in 2022 for employmentdiscrimination. This week,
jurors agreed their religiousobjections were legit and Bart

(02:30:12):
had failed to prove thataccommodating the workers
religious beliefs would causethem undue hardship. They can't
just flippantly disregard peopleof faith and treat them like
second class citizens. We hopethat BART has received that
message loud and clear. FredDacus is with the Pacific
Justice Institute, whichrepresented the six workers. He

(02:30:32):
says the verdict puts employerson notice there are heavy prices
they're going to have to pay fortheir intolerance, bigotry and
apparent lack of sensitivity forpeople of faith wanting to be
reasonably accommodated to BARTlawsuit is one of 1000s related
to COVID vaccine mandatesworking their way through the

(02:30:53):
legal system. Legal experts saymany never make it to a jury
trial because litigants eithercan't prove they have sincere
religious objections, or becausethe company has made
accommodations the
context of COVID 19 what a lotof employers have done is offer
testing and masking as analternative to vaccination.
UC law, San Francisco Professordorit Rice says the law allowing

(02:31:16):
religious objections toworkplace rules has been on the
books since 1964
I think the take home foremployers is take the law
seriously. Have a process inplace to assess religious
exemption and make a good faceefforts where, probably where
you can to accommodate all ofwhich is what the law says.

Adam Curry (02:31:36):
Wow, that

John C Dvorak (02:31:38):
is, yeah, this tip of the iceberg for this. And

Adam Curry (02:31:41):
I believe during COVID, we even had templates and
forms in the show notes forreligious exemption. So if you
make a million bucks, rememberyour no agenda show. Oh,

John C Dvorak (02:31:55):
yeah. Well, the lawyer, the lawyers will
probably take

Adam Curry (02:31:58):
half of it. I'm sure they can only take a third. Oh,
that's it. Don't take a third.Yeah,

John C Dvorak (02:32:03):
they take a third. The this case, which is
good, this, this is the, justthe tip of the iceberg. I think
it. I think they got $7 millionfor about a million a person,
almost. I think a little less,but, but it was a lot, but more.
And it's, of course, comes outof the, you know, the BART
general fund. Mean you have topay the guys who promoted the

(02:32:24):
policy should be all fired. Thisis the real issue with me. They
come up with these policies thatcost the system huge amounts of
money, and nobody, oh, well,whatever. It's just not my
money. I think this is a kind ofa drawback, but okay,

Adam Curry (02:32:43):
in the season of reveal category, you know that
I'm still following the DiddySteen stuff, because we now have
that

John C Dvorak (02:32:53):
what, which is going nowhere, as far as I can

Adam Curry (02:32:57):
well, yeah, it's going nowhere, because this is
the true evil in in the world.Is what these people are all
wrapped up in, including theAbercrombie and Fitch CEO. And
we have, we have boots on theground. Sir Viper. Sir Viper,
515, a couple of friends of mineused to occasionally fly for
Mike Jeffries. This is the nowfallen and shameful sex pervert

(02:33:24):
Mike Jeffries, so he used to flythe private jet, they would have
to spray a particular Cologne inthe cabin, brush the carpet and
headliner in a certain way, thequote, flight attendants had to
wear skinny jeans and flipflops. One pilot had to meet him
at the bottom of the stairs andfollow him up, while the other

(02:33:47):
had to be walking in the cabinand meet him at a specific
location and say hi to him. Oneof my friends, a six foot six
lanky former Marine in the 60sat the time, was requested by
name to fly with him. Thesepeople are sick. This reminds
and they're demonic.

John C Dvorak (02:34:08):
This reminds me of this story we got in. This
was at least a decade ago on theshow about how al sharpton's
producer had to produce. It wasa cup of tea or something, and
put it on his desk at a certainspecific spot, and turn it a
certain way before he startedhis show, when he was when he
had the desk that he used to sitbehind, this kind of thing. And

(02:34:32):
this is the diva kind of things.You've heard this about a lot of
Hollywood people, when they goto a hotel, they, when they
check in, they have to have acertain kind of flower and a
certain kind of this. And thethat this has to be over here,
and this has to be has to beover there. What is wrong with
these people?

Adam Curry (02:34:46):
They're bored. They're bored by the amount of
money they have and success, andthen they get, they get scooped
up by Satan and the word on thestreet. Now, yes,

John C Dvorak (02:34:58):
you need a glass. Come on, a certain way. It's

Adam Curry (02:35:02):
spiritual man. We're in spiritual problems here.
Jamie Foxx, the word on thestreet. Now, remember Jamie?
Jamie Foxx, just you know, hewent into coma for

John C Dvorak (02:35:12):
three weeks from the COVID shot.

Adam Curry (02:35:14):
Well, the word on the street is that Diddy
poisoned him because he hasvideo or pictures of some freak
offs, and did he tried to killhim, and then when he came out
of it, miraculously, heimmediately called the FBI and

(02:35:36):
and that the FBI has the goodsfrom Jamie Foxx. I'm just
telling you what's on the what'son the street, what's on the
street. So I don't know ifthat's true, but it's
interesting, because ourconstitutional lawyer, Rob he is
constantly sending me updatesabout this. It's fascinating the
way this, I mean, there's a lotof legal stuff going back and

(02:35:58):
forth. Did he's lawyers tryingto get a gag order put on all
the media and everything now. Imean, it's, it's, it's not over.
It's not surprising that wedon't hear much from the
mainstream media, from the M 5mabout it, because you never know
who's wrapped up in it.

John C Dvorak (02:36:20):
Yeah. Well, when I believe it, when I see it,

Adam Curry (02:36:23):
I have an update on McDonald's, which was kind of
cool. Well, it's not reallycool, you know, the McDonald's
now it's, oh, now there's, youknow, 13 more states, and
everybody's getting sick fromthe quarter pounder.

John C Dvorak (02:36:36):
Literally, yeah, well,

Adam Curry (02:36:38):
so our producer says the Quarter Pounder has been
singled out, he believes,because he says it's the only
burger that is cooked fresh andnot frozen. But is it just Trump
that they're getting intotrouble for? Turns out,
McDonald's has been suing Tysonand Cargill and others for

(02:37:01):
artificially raising the priceof beef. And these, I mean,
there's only three companiesthat do this, Tyson Cargill, and
what's the other one? I can'tremember, who are in charge of
beef in America. And if you'regoing to be suing them for price
fixing, I can see whether youmight get in some kind of

(02:37:22):
problem about your product. Whatwas that? What was that? Was it
a TV series where, I can'tremember what it was now, where
a competing, a competing way itwas, ah, was a house of cards,
where there was some milkshakeshop that was opening up, and

(02:37:43):
they were going to short thestock, and so they had people go
in buy one of these milkshakes,and then they they put poison in
it themselves. So they werepuking violently at the open on
the opening day of the milkshakeshop. I

John C Dvorak (02:37:58):
don't remember that being in house cars, but

Adam Curry (02:38:00):
JBC is the other one. Thank you. JBC is the other
meat guy. So there's somethinggoing on there that is bigger
than than what we're being told,billions. Thank you. Was on
billions. That was it. Thankyou, karma King. So the you know
you gotta, you gotta figure, yougotta wonder about these things.
How do they know it was theonions? There's no evidence the
onion. People like, Yeah, wedid. He's not onions.

John C Dvorak (02:38:24):
Are you clear? No, I was. I have a pair of
glasses, and I was and theyclosed the the ears, things
closed, and they made and Itried to open them, but I was
doing with the one hand. So theykept closing and making a noise.
I

Adam Curry (02:38:38):
mean, there was a an episode on this very podcast
where you were clipping yournails on the show, I can

John C Dvorak (02:38:44):
No, that's what that was, an accusation that I
denied to this day. I wasclicking a pin.

Adam Curry (02:38:50):
Okay, my memory, I'm sorry. I could be wrong.

John C Dvorak (02:38:56):
Well, let's, let's at least get these out of
the way so we can, because it'sthe phony baloney event of the
decade, which is the Iran,Israel thing. By

Adam Curry (02:39:03):
the way, I think we called it. We said fireworks is
going to be nice, show in thesky. Nothing much is going to
happen. Is that not exactly whatwe said?

John C Dvorak (02:39:11):
This is not only exactly, but exactly, exactly,
exactly what we said. Yes. Sohere's PBS doing the rundown. Of
course, they don't see any ofthis and they but everything
leads to this conclusion. So asa got a five parter here, it's
kind of interesting. Is Ira Iranrun down one tonight.

Unknown (02:39:31):
Iran is saying that it might not respond in kind to
Israel's first ever open attackon its soil. If there's a cease
fire in Gaza and Lebanon, morethan 100 Israeli fighter jets
and unmanned drones struckIranian military targets. Iran
state run news agency said fourmembers of its military were
killed. The long anticipatedretaliatory attack came early

(02:39:56):
Saturday morning the IsraeliDefense Force. Said it struck
targets where missiles are builtand stored. Their answer to
Iran's missile barrage is onIsrael in April and earlier this
month, those followed thekillings of Iranian and
Hezbollah leaders, which Iranblamed on Israel on state TV,

(02:40:18):
Iran's ruling regime played downthe damage, although
the
country's integrated air defensesystem successfully tracked and
confronted the act ofaggression, limited damage has
been caused to some places. Thescope of the attack is being
investigated.

(02:40:38):
IDF spokesman Daniel hagariindicated Israeli retaliation
was done for now,
we are focused on the targets ofthe war in Gaza and Lebanon.
Iran is the one that continuesto push for a wider regional
escalation. We will know how tochoose additional targets and
attack them if necessary.

Adam Curry (02:40:59):
I love that. They're just like, you know, Hey, man,
if you guys back off of Gaza andLebanon, we're not gonna shoot
anything back. You know, morestuff that doesn't land
anywhere. This is veryinteresting development.

John C Dvorak (02:41:12):
This is so fake, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go to number
two. Pretty fake. Get close tothe good stuff. International

Unknown (02:41:21):
reaction was swift.
I wish a speedy recovery to ourneighbor, Iran and the Iranian
government, which was the targetof the Israeli aggression last
night, the Zionist Israeligovernment wants to light the
fuse on a regional conflict.
I am clear that Israel has theright to defend itself against

(02:41:42):
Iranian aggression, I am equallyclear that we need to avoid
further regional escalation andurge all sides to show
restraint. Iran should notrespond
this afternoon before flying toPittsburgh for a campaign event.
President Biden echoed thatcall.

(02:42:04):
It looks like they didn't hitanything on the military
targets. My hope is this, in theend, a
senior administration officialsaid efforts will soon resume to
end the fighting in Lebanon,secure a cease fire in Gaza, and
the return of Israeli hostagesstill held in Gaza.

Adam Curry (02:42:20):
If I can just say something about Biden in that
clip, did you see Biden runningtowards the press corps? No,
daddy, long legs.

John C Dvorak (02:42:32):
Oh, the other Biden, yes, and I didn't see it,
though.

Adam Curry (02:42:35):
Okay, the tell is the fake not Joe Biden, whose
legs are at least five incheslonger than the Joe Biden, who
we don't know where he is,always wears the Ray Bans he
had. There's something with theeyes that is too much of a
giveaway, and he's alwayswearing the Ray Ban,

John C Dvorak (02:42:53):
probably different colored eyes,

Adam Curry (02:42:55):
possibly.

John C Dvorak (02:42:56):
So just because I have seen photos close up,
photos of the different Bidensin one of them was got brown,

Adam Curry (02:43:02):
yeah? So, just so everybody's aware, keep, keep
and look out for Daddy Long Legswith the Ray Bans,

John C Dvorak (02:43:09):
yeah, that makes sense. So here we have somebody.
They bring somebody in from theBrookings Institute to do an
analysis for us, because we'redumb. Oh, that'll help.

Unknown (02:43:17):
Suzanne Maloney is director of the Foreign Policy
Program at the BrookingsInstitution Suzanne. What do you
make of this offer from oroverture from Iran that they'll
they'll not retaliate if there'sa cease fire in Lebanon and
Gaza?
I think this is consistent withthe rhetoric that we've heard
from Iran for some time. They'vetried to posture that they're
actually defending the people ofGaza and the people of Lebanon

(02:43:41):
and that their hostile activitytoward Israel will, in fact,
stop if there is a cease fire. Ithink it's also a face saving
gesture, because they'reunlikely to respond to what was
a fairly complex andsophisticated attack by the
Israelis yesterday against Iran.Talk
a little more about last night.The attack last night, was
Israel able to accomplish itsgoals while at the same time

(02:44:04):
heeding the international callsfor restraint?
Well, I think it was a sort ofGoldilocks approach on the part
of the Israelis. It was bigenough to impose some costs, and
I think to have some deterrentimpact on Iran's calculus, but
it was not so big as to createinevitable pressures for
escalation and Iranianretaliation, which would put the

(02:44:26):
region in a much wider and muchmore dangerous war. That
obviously was the goal of theUnited States that had been
speaking with the Israelicounterparts about the nature of
the attack. There was a lot ofdiscussion about whether nuclear
sites would be targeted, whetherIran's oil and gas
infrastructure might betargeted, but instead, they

(02:44:47):
chose to target drone andmissile production facilities as
well as air defense and radar,and I think that that was a very
wise and appropriate choice.

Adam Curry (02:44:55):
So we're back to the calculus. Duh. And, and this
really solidifies the wholeTrump's gonna come in make one
phone call Abraham accords toback to China. This is ending,

John C Dvorak (02:45:13):
yeah, but won't end till after the election next

Adam Curry (02:45:16):
week. No, no, no. Uh,

John C Dvorak (02:45:18):
should we go to just a couple more? Just this,
not necessarily short, but isfour.

Unknown (02:45:23):
Israel appears to have used the airspace of Jordan and
Iraq to get to the targets inIran. What does that tell us
about Iran's standing among itsArab neighbors? Well,
the region's reaction has beenquite interesting. As you noted,
two of Iran's neighboring statesuse permitted the Israelis to
use their airspace to undertakethese attacks. It demonstrates

(02:45:45):
how vulnerable Iran is becauseof the alignment of many of the
rest countries in the rest ofthe region with Israel. But of
course, there are condemnationsfor many, many regional states
as well, including Saudi Arabia,which I think speaks to the fact
that no country in the regionreally wants to see this
situation escalate further thanit has.
There's
been so for many years, Israeland Iran, sort of fighting by

(02:46:08):
proxy, Iranian sponsored groupslike Hamas Hezbollah and the
Houthis attacking Israel. Havewe reached a new phase now where
these two countries, these twolong time enemies are going to
be attacking each otherdirectly?
Yes, I think that's exactlywhere we were. As you noted, for
about the past decade, there'sbeen a gray zone war between

(02:46:30):
Iran and Israel, often involvingproxies or war in third
countries such as Syria. Whatwe've seen since April is a
willingness on the part of theIranians to strike directly in
an attributable fashion, againstIsrael, and by Israel to respond
directly with attacks on Iran onthe Iranian homeland. I think
this is in much more dangerousphase of the war, although the

(02:46:51):
actions of the past 24 hours maycreate some some pause on the
part of the Iranians to take thenext step of escalation.

Adam Curry (02:47:01):
How did you come up with that,

John C Dvorak (02:47:03):
they say go along, to make it sound as
though it's actually somethinggoing on, besides a scam that
everybody sitting in a cafe inTurkey knows this is bull crap,
and so did half the goodanalysts out there. It was, this
is Theater.

Adam Curry (02:47:18):
Where's our dude named Mohammed?

John C Dvorak (02:47:19):
I would have expected he'll come. No, dude
are Do we have a lot of dudesname,

Adam Curry (02:47:22):
but the dude, og Mohammed dude named,

John C Dvorak (02:47:27):
he'll come in with some information. The guy's
good, yeah, he's very so this isthe last one, but this is not
PBS. This is the same rundown, ashort one from NPR. And there
may be a little discrepantinformation in here.

Unknown (02:47:39):
I spoke about this with an official who is briefed on
the matter, an official who wasnot authorized to speak publicly
about this, but who told me thatthere were three waves of
Israeli strikes on Iran. Thefirst wave of strikes was on
Iran's air defenses. The secondand third waves were on storage
and production sites ofballistic missiles and drones.

(02:47:59):
This official said that Israel'sresponse was designed as a kind
of a quid pro quo after Irancarried out its missile strikes
on Israel on october 1, and alsodesigned in a way that Iran
would be able to contain anyreaction. Israel says that its
retaliation against Iran is nowover, and Iran indeed is

(02:48:21):
signaling that it's downplayingthis. Iran state news agency
said Israeli airstrikes causedlimited damage. It says civilian
flights are up and running againin the country. It also said two
of its soldiers were killed.

John C Dvorak (02:48:36):
What all the reports from PBS said four
soldiers were killed, yeah, nowthis report says too, this is
bull crap.

Adam Curry (02:48:45):
I you know, going back to the initial prediction
that we said this was theaterand it would be fireworks in the
sky. And Calm down, everybody.We're not in world war three, I
would like to show you thedifference between your no
agenda show and the culture wareconomy. And I hate to say it,
but Scott Ritter is the one whosaid this. The entire

Unknown (02:49:09):
Israeli package was based upon the Iranian defenses
defined by s3 100 typecapabilities. S3 100 is a
Russian service to air missile.The Russians just provided the
Iranians with a significantnumber of s4 100, together with
sophisticated electronic warfarepackage, is going to jam the
Israelis as they come in, backedup by su 35 fighters. Now,
here's the thing, how manyIranians been trained on the
operation of the s4 100? I'llgive you a quick hit. None.

(02:49:31):
Who's operating the Yes, 400 onIranian soil. I'll give you
another hint. The Russians,who's flying the s 35 not
Iranian pilots. Russians aboutIsrael to attack Iran is gonna
have to go ahead with Russia.You think Israel wants to do
that? You think Israel is readyto do that? Do you think the
United States is willing to letthem do that? Now, what is
Israel going to bomb? Are theygoing to bomb the nuclear site?
That's the end of Israel. Israeldisappears that quick. You
understand the first Israelibomb that drops on Iran. Over

(02:49:52):
500 missiles will immediately befired. These are solid rocket
fuel missiles. You canimmediately reload fire 500 more
within 15 minutes. That's 1000Missiles impacting every
strategic site in Israel within30 minutes of the first Israeli
bomb dropping, the Israeliairplane won't even be halfway
home before his entire countryis destroyed. That's going
through the mind of BenjaminNetanyahu. You wonder why he

(02:50:12):
didn't order the attack. Becausehe can't order the attack. He's
got nothing to attack with. Iranholds all the cards. Okay. Wow.

John C Dvorak (02:50:21):
Wow. Okay, Clip of the Day. Oh,

Unknown (02:50:24):
even Wow.

Adam Curry (02:50:25):
Despite the crappy audio, thank you. I appreciate

Unknown (02:50:28):
that Clip of the Day.

John C Dvorak (02:50:30):
This is classic. This. This Scott Ritter is one
of those guys. He's a plant. Imean, He's entertaining to
listen to, and he does make someinteresting points on certain
specific shows he keeps showingup on. But that's the example
right there of the what we thinkis going on, which is backed up
by what's going on and whatother people think what's going

(02:50:53):
on, which is some sort of, somesort of up there. This is psyop
to what he just said, yep,

Adam Curry (02:51:01):
yep. And now you even have to question, is the
FBI showing up at his house? Isthat part of the Psy op to make
him more legit? Yeah, you know.

John C Dvorak (02:51:12):
But we always, we always believe in this, this
meta version of everything,where this, what you what looks
like, is happening, is reallydone for the purposes of drawing
attention and not really doinganything. Yeah, that has to be,
it's part of the whole thing. Hemade such a fuss about, how come
we

Adam Curry (02:51:28):
never get any of these deals?

John C Dvorak (02:51:33):
We don't know that we're not getting these
deals when people do a rubbishor donation, but

Adam Curry (02:51:39):
they're not giving me any info for the for the deal
that just say, here's a rubbishthey want our

John C Dvorak (02:51:45):
info. No, they want the weird analysts,

Adam Curry (02:51:49):
consultationists,

John C Dvorak (02:51:51):
we're doing, our analysts, our analysis, and
they're listening today. Who arethey? They're listening in the
they are listening in. Andthey're going, Oh, we got to do
a better job. But we haven'tfooled him on this one. We get
fooled.

Adam Curry (02:52:09):
Oh, let me play. I have 18 seconds. So Daddy Long
Legs, sees the press, runs up tothe press. When's the last time
he

John C Dvorak (02:52:17):
was, by the way, by the real bite never does.

Adam Curry (02:52:20):
He shuffles. He can't. He'll fall over then,
then he hops up the big stairson Air Force One, not the little
cargo bay pops up there, fliesover. Oh,

John C Dvorak (02:52:32):
that's the giveaway, right there. He hasn't
gone up those big stairs for ayear or two,

Adam Curry (02:52:37):
and this is to apologize for the Native
American boarding school.Fracas. Oh, please. What do you
know? What this is about?

John C Dvorak (02:52:46):
Yeah, it was the for the early years of our
country. From it, from the 1800smostly took place when we were
moving the Indians all over theplace. We insisted that they go
to American boarding schools forto be raised as Americans, and
so we basically kidnapped mostof the Navajos and all these
various children of Indians. Andinstead of put letting them be

(02:53:11):
homeschooled in in in a teepee,

Adam Curry (02:53:14):
they were casino

John C Dvorak (02:53:18):
they they were pulled out. They're the guys, by
the way, these are the kids thatare running the casinos now,
yeah, and there were trained.They were raised as white
people, and we have toapologize, because this was
unfair to these kids who shouldhave been raised as Indians
mirror as Native Americans. So

Adam Curry (02:53:36):
Daddy Long Legs shows up at wherever he was
after this little jaunt. Andthis running up to the press. It
was, it was unbelievable. Like,no, that's not you see, first of
all, you see his legs arevisibly longer, and then he's
standing up there, and he's gotthe Ray Bans on. 150

Unknown (02:53:54):
years, United States government eventually stopped
the program, but the federalgovernment has never, never
formally apologized for whathappened. Until today, I
formally apologized,

Adam Curry (02:54:12):
not Joe Biden, not Joe Biden. Listen to that at the
end again.

Unknown (02:54:17):
Until today, I formally apologize. Apologize and

Adam Curry (02:54:22):
whoa, whoa. What are you easy there, daddy, long
legs.

John C Dvorak (02:54:26):
What kind of an apologies? Yelling?

Adam Curry (02:54:28):
Yeah.

John C Dvorak (02:54:29):
How do you yell at an apology? Well, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna, I'm

Adam Curry (02:54:35):
sorry, John, I'm sorry. I told you. It clipping
your nails.

John C Dvorak (02:54:38):
It's see that would be that would sound like
you're just being sarcastic.Yeah. So this is this guy's no
good, no. Well, I have someHalloween clips if you want to
do those, or we can just skipwhat Halloween clips, the
disgusting body trade. You know,

Adam Curry (02:54:58):
I have not listened to these clips. But I feel that
this is very out of characterfor you, because you will not
choose art because it'sdisgusting. Yet you feel it's
okay to show up with disgustingclips on the show.

John C Dvorak (02:55:12):
I just use the word disgusting as a trigger.
Well, I'm

Adam Curry (02:55:16):
triggered. What else? It's

John C Dvorak (02:55:17):
not really disgusting in a true sense. It's
about collectors that, and Ihave to say this, as an
archivist, collectors who havegotten carried away and they've
and it's a couple, marriedcouple that they found each
other. And this whole story,which is done, it was a, I
think, NPR, it's, it's one ofthose things that it's, you

(02:55:41):
know, the we ridicule NPR, butevery once in a while, they do
something that is likespectacular.

Adam Curry (02:55:49):
So you have 50 minutes of clips. Is that good?

John C Dvorak (02:55:54):
I was 151, 5130 it's not that long. It

Adam Curry (02:55:57):
is. I can count 456788, and a half minutes.

John C Dvorak (02:56:05):
We run out of show.

Adam Curry (02:56:08):
We can make as much show as you want. I can

John C Dvorak (02:56:10):
also do these on the next show after Halloween is
over. It's a good story. This isa good series. It's maybe too
much do

Adam Curry (02:56:19):
because, of course, I don't know what your clips
are, but what's the we've gotnew UK riots. We've got prison

John C Dvorak (02:56:26):
films fest is a good story. Film Fest, the
prison Film Fest is aninteresting story because,
again, it's California leadingthe way, even though you
wouldn't think so at thebeginning of the story, but at
the end, they finally closed itout with, again, California
leads the way a

Unknown (02:56:40):
maximum security prison north of New York City is
hosting a film festival thisweek as Samantha max of member
station WNYC reports all themovies are about the criminal
justice system. All the judgesare incarcerated.
A group of men serving time atthe Sing Sing Correctional
Facility evaluated fivedocumentaries about policing,

(02:57:02):
prisons and the courts. Aformerly incarcerated filmmaker
visited the man at Sing Sing andtrained them on how to critique
movies. Dun works for theMarshall Project, which
organized the film festival. Shesays she hopes other prisons
will hold their own festivals inthe
future, and we just pray that wecan continue to do programs like

(02:57:24):
this to show that it can happen.To be honest,
the event is the first knownfilm festival inside a prison in
New York, and just the secondnationwide. The San Quentin
Rehabilitation Center inCalifornia held its own festival
earlier this month.

John C Dvorak (02:57:41):
So we're training film critics in prison, which
makes sense to me. Well, they're

Adam Curry (02:57:45):
voting they can do everything else they can get
they can transition. I mean, whynot? I think it's perfect.

John C Dvorak (02:57:52):
By the way, rotten tomatoes will never be
the same. Thursday

Adam Curry (02:57:56):
is Halloween, so you can do your gruesome story
before the kids go trick ortreating on Thursday. How does
that sound? That sounds thatsounds fair to me.

John C Dvorak (02:58:06):
That sounds fair to me too. So let's go with
disgusting.

Adam Curry (02:58:09):
No, no, let's do we go V Oh, you

John C Dvorak (02:58:12):
want to wow, yeah, that's a good, yeah, good.
You twisted beyond that one.Yeah, that was a good
switcheroo. I like it. I'mgiving you. It was very,

Adam Curry (02:58:21):
very slick switcheroo of the day, yeah,
okay, yes.

John C Dvorak (02:58:25):
Well, this is a, I consider this to be a native
ad that was, again, PBS doingthese, Yep, yeah, of course, PbS
is doing these native ads. Andhere we go with a big promotion
of like COVID physicians

Unknown (02:58:38):
are increasingly using weight loss drugs to treat
obesity, diabetes and otherchronic conditions in young
people, including children. Inthe last three years, the number
of people aged between 12 and 25using drugs like we COVID And
ozempic has surged nearly 600%Ali Rogin looks at the high
demand for these drugs and theconcerns surrounding them,

(02:59:01):
approximately one in fivechildren and adolescents in the
US is obese, but experts sayearly intensive treatment can
prevent health issues down theline. Early last year, the
American Academy of Pediatricsrecommended the use of
medication to treat obesity inchildren's ages 12 and up, we
spoke to two young women whohave been using these

(02:59:21):
medications. I had been
struggling with my weight, and Ihad never gotten my period
before, and we weren't sure whatwas up with it, and I had taken
some labs, and we found out thatI had PCOS. I think a lot of
people think, especially PCOS,that they're stuck and there
isn't options, and they'refinding out that this is an
option, because it has helped melose almost 90 pounds, and I got

(02:59:44):
my period, and it's helped withmy confidence in so many other
things, and continuing it, Ithink, has just shown the
effectiveness of it as well.

Adam Curry (02:59:54):
Okay. First observation. First PCOS is
polycystic ovary syndrome. I.Which is a hormonal during the
reproductive years, is when thattakes place. But it's
interesting that they are onlytalking about these medicines as
we go v where there are manymore, the most famous of which
would be ozempic.

John C Dvorak (03:00:15):
So this is what I'm saying. This is an ad for
agovi. Yeah. Okay, and they getit good. This, by the way, this
three clips I have are, are partof about a 10 minute program of
these. How great it is,

Adam Curry (03:00:28):
almost like I'm looking at PCOS, common
condition, common condition thataffects your hormones. It causes
irregular menstrual periods,which is what she was
complaining of, excess hairgrowth, acne and infertility.
Treatment for PCOS depends on,if you wish to become pregnant,
people with PCOS may be athigher risk for certain health
conditions. So how do you getit? It actually, it actually

(03:00:53):
creates. How this isinteresting, so just, I'm not a
doctor, of course, but it saysthat PCOS can actually make you
gain weight, so they're tryingto treat a symptom here and not
the actual cause.

John C Dvorak (03:01:11):
It matters, not because we go these fabulous

Unknown (03:01:14):
despite the effectiveness of these drugs,
some doctors are concerned aboutthe lack of data available for
children using them long term.Dr Melanie Cree is a pediatric
endocrinologist at Children'sHospital Colorado, and she
treated both Sophie and autumn.Dr Cree, thank you so much for
joining us. First of all, whyare we seeing this increase of

(03:01:34):
children using thesemedications?
The reason we're seeing such anincrease is that these
medications work and ourchildren are really suffering
from outcomes from excessweight, ranging from mental
health and bullying to thedevelopment of serious metabolic
disease, such as type twodiabetes.
When you are treating patients,what sort of options do you

(03:01:56):
consider before looking atmedication?

Adam Curry (03:01:59):
So this is a script. Listen how she reads that script
after she says, Oh, no, you gainweight because you're being
bullied. No, it's very possiblethat you're being bullied and
then you resort to eating. Thisis, this is poor information.
Even I can see this is not good,

Unknown (03:02:20):
and our children are really suffering from outcomes
from excess weight, ranging frommental health and bullying to
the development of seriousmetabolic disease such as type
two diabetes.
When you are treating patients,what sort of options do you
consider before looking atmedication?
So we always look at lifestylein terms of trying to help a

(03:02:44):
child who is struggling withweight achieve better health,
and we can look at differentaspects of food. Are they
getting enough fruits andvegetables, cutting down on
simple carbohydrates, reallycutting liquid calories? What
can they do to increase theiractivity? Is their neighborhood
safe to exercise in? Do theyhave access to facilities or

(03:03:05):
sports? Sleep is very important.Do they have some more quiet to
sleep? Do they get enough sleep?And then, obviously, mental
health is very important. Andare they stressed, or are they
living in a difficult socialenvironment, and helping align
all of these to optimizechildren's health is something

(03:03:26):
that we do prior to trying anymedication.

Adam Curry (03:03:30):
Give these kids some steak. Give them a rib eye.

John C Dvorak (03:03:36):
No, you can't just though, you gotta poison
him with the food supply that wehave. No

Adam Curry (03:03:41):
please. RFK, Jr, come on in. I

John C Dvorak (03:03:45):
think they should make him head of Health and
Human Services. That's wherethey should put him. Yes, he
would cause nothing but aheadache for everybody, and it
would be about time. Yeah, herewe go.

Unknown (03:03:56):
What are some of the misconceptions that you've
encountered about prescribingthese medications and the
children who are on them,
I think the number onemisconception is that the
individual is failing somehow,that somebody has to do these
medications if they don't have astrong enough willpower, and

(03:04:17):
that they're weak and can't dothis on their own. And that's
just absolutely not true. Theseare chemicals. And when you take
chemicals and they help you loseweight, that means that you've
got a problem with the chemicalsin your brain that are helping
you to regulate how you senseappetite and how you sense
fullness. Yeah,

Adam Curry (03:04:38):
chemicals,

John C Dvorak (03:04:39):
the chemicals. Is counteracting the chemicals, the
poisons that you've been gettingfrom the American food supply,
high fructose corn syrup beingone of them, oh, man, which is a
chemical. It's produced at arefinery. It's not even
something that's natural or they

Adam Curry (03:04:56):
make oil and lubricants. Yeah.

John C Dvorak (03:05:00):
It's just unbelievable, and it's the way
they do it so cavalier. Well,you get these chemicals that'll
counteract the other chemicals,which are already counteracting
the natural chemicals thatshould have been counteracted by
the other chemicals. And whatare you doing? Patrol

Adam Curry (03:05:12):
room, correctly. Said, I was very, very bad to
say, give that kid a steak,because we all know that that
creates more climate change. AndI will wrap it up with some
climate change.

John C Dvorak (03:05:23):
Yes, you horrible person. Since

Adam Curry (03:05:26):
cop 16 is underway in Colombia, United Nations
reports climate has become moredifficult to save. Yes, we're
all gonna die. United Nationsreports on climate goals, says
countries have made no progress.How about that? The German
farmers, however, will beclosing the roads and bridges

(03:05:49):
this time for their strikecoming up on November 23 amongst
the report from Oxfam, one ofthe largest non governmental
organizations that up to $41billion in World Bank climate
finance is unaccounted for. Andwouldn't it just be coincidental

(03:06:14):
that I have a clip from grandmaYellen, once again, Janet Yellen
at the IMF and World Bank,Jamboree, talking about climate
finance, confronting

Unknown (03:06:25):
climate change, of course, also remains at the top
of our agenda. The MDBscommitted.

Adam Curry (03:06:33):
She's talking about MDBs here. That's multilateral
development banks. Those arebasically the IMF and the World
Bank, which is your money and mymoney that they're spending and
clearly not keeping track ofconfronting

Unknown (03:06:46):
climate change, of course, also remains at the top
of our agenda. The MDBscommitted a record high of
nearly $75 billion in climatefinance to low and middle income
countries in 2023 a 45% increasefrom 2021 and they're deploying

(03:07:10):
new tools to help countriesrespond to crises and increase
resilience. We will continue towork to make climate finance
easier to access and to supportadditional private capital
mobilization at the MDBs andthrough the Climate and
Environment trust funds. There,we should turn to implementing

(03:07:35):
the recommendations of therecently finalized review of the
climate finance architecturethat we worked with g20 partners
to launch, and we've madesignificant cut progress putting
conflict and fragility,pandemics and climate change at
the core of the MDBs workthrough the evolution agenda.

(03:08:01):
The MDBs have responsiblystretch their balance sheets and
pursued innovative financialmeasures that will enable $200
billion in additional lendingcapacity over the next 10 years,
and as of July, the g20estimates that measures that
have already been identifiedcould enable an additional

(03:08:25):
almost 100 and $60 billion thisnearly 360 billion in total
would be an annual increase ofOver 20% compared to 2023

Adam Curry (03:08:40):
they are ripping us off. No kidding. And listen to
the money, and it's, oh, it'savailable for climate finance
infrastructure. We are so in thewrong business. We should start
a climate finance you should

John C Dvorak (03:08:57):
have been in a banking business from the get go
due

Unknown (03:09:00):
to climate change, I'm
gonna show my support bydonating to no agenda. Imagine
all the people who could dothat. Oh yeah, that'd be fun.

Adam Curry (03:09:15):
Lots more show to go. We do, of course, have John
sip of the day coming up, alongwith some very nice end of show
mixes. We've got Commodores towelcome. We have nights dames
title changes and some groovymeetup reports. But first we
would like to thank thesupporters, the producers who
came in with the treasure forthe show, $50 and above. It's

(03:09:36):
not a very long list. John, takeit away.

John C Dvorak (03:09:40):
Yes. We start with net Ned from Shelby
Township, Michigan. Another.Michigander, 177 77 Nate Thurman
in Longville, long view,Washington. 170 70 another. 17
more years. Guy, William Martinin Essex, Ontario, Canada. One
seven. And D parts unknown isunknown, anonymous. I don't know

(03:10:04):
it's a blank, but it's 133 52Ryan net doubt, naddo, nado in
Bozeman, Montana. 121, 21 ah,there he is. Kevin McLaughlin,
right at the top of the list.808. Is the Archduke of Luna,
lover of America and boobs.Another one is Eric Maki, M, a,

(03:10:25):
k, I, in Blairsville, Georgia,with 800, a David CACT,

Adam Curry (03:10:30):
good old David and show mixer. God, no one could
Yes. He's

John C Dvorak (03:10:34):
in Santa Valley in Arizona. 73 ham radio
donation. 7373 72 ham radiodonation is an interesting idea.
Yes, I like it. Michael Elmore,Gastonia, North Carolina, 7215
John Hui boury,

Unknown (03:10:54):
bore,

Adam Curry (03:10:57):
hey. Farmer is what that's saying.

John C Dvorak (03:10:58):
Hey. Farmer in Bristol, Tennessee, 7117 Kelly
Hubbard. Hubbard and hercupboard is Plymouth, Minnesota,
at 6009 uh, Daniel George inDanbury, Connecticut, 6006 small
boobs. Uh, Mark Hardwick in aLido, Texas, 6006 David Weicker

(03:11:24):
or wicker,

Adam Curry (03:11:26):
you have not done that right once. Weicker wicker,
he

John C Dvorak (03:11:30):
is because there's a congressman. He is all
the same way. It

Adam Curry (03:11:32):
was always pronounced. We serve by His
grace. David wicker, and

John C Dvorak (03:11:36):
he is in Jacksonville, Florida with 5517
James Moore in San Pablo,California, has grabbed the
street, 5463 What is he saying?Here my last tip was about pens.

(03:11:56):
Now this pen, the pen I wouldplug glass, shows the one you
want. Surprise, surprise inYukon, Oklahoma. 5444 Jonathan
Straub and Roswell, Georgia.5270

Adam Curry (03:12:09):
needs a deduction, and he wants to, he wants to
call up Mike Straub as a douchebag, and for himself,

Unknown (03:12:18):
you've been deduced. Alexis

John C Dvorak (03:12:21):
Robles in Chula Vista, California, 5272 and also
cost us in Aldergrove, BC,Canada. And he needs a deducing
at 5272

Unknown (03:12:33):
you've been deduced.

John C Dvorak (03:12:37):
Sir Mar santalla In Tucson, Arizona, 5150 listen

Adam Curry (03:12:42):
to this. Thank you for all you do. Please. There's
my daughter, Cassandra mitzner,a happy birthday. Her birthday
is a Monday. The 28th will be 34we call Kamala in our household,
Mama law, translation fromSpanish, means suck me. You
think that's right?

John C Dvorak (03:13:00):
I don't know. We should look it up, because
that's what Mama is, what?What's her name? The talk show
host of Barrymore girl DrewBarrymore Drew Barrymore calls
her mama, but I don't know thatshe knows it means suck me. We
should have some we should haveSpanish speakers in the chat

(03:13:21):
room,

Unknown (03:13:22):
trolls, and

John C Dvorak (03:13:25):
then just finish it off with $50 donations while
you're waiting for the resultsof that query to the chat room.
Amy galinis and Buri inWashington. Brian M and Heiser
in Lancaster, California,Michael Elmore in Gastonia,
North Carolina. Aaron wiseGerber in Bend Oregon. John
Taylor in fluorescent Colorado,sir. Richard Gardner, New York

(03:13:46):
City, I believe Sarah, Sera,

Adam Curry (03:13:49):
sir. Sarah, no, says, sounds like the fine wine.
Sera,

John C Dvorak (03:13:55):
oh, okay, oh, I see that. Yes. Sera, okay. Sera,
spelled Sarah, but says Sera, 10times. Teen Brentwood,
Tennessee, 10 line. Steinle.

Adam Curry (03:14:07):
Stein steinline.

John C Dvorak (03:14:09):
There it is, once you read these, and then last on
our list is worn out night inCalexico, California, 50 bucks,
and I'm the worn out night ofSan Felipe Baja, California,
been a few years, but I'm back.I believe my total donation to
date is $1,500.33 Okay, thankyou very much. And

Adam Curry (03:14:32):
sorry. I was just trying to help you out there.
You know, I'm sorry. Let meapologize properly. I'm sorry.
I'm

Unknown (03:14:39):
sorry. Okay, I'm sorry.

John C Dvorak (03:14:42):
Okay, Biden,

Adam Curry (03:14:44):
thank you very much to these supporters of the show
producers. You are allproducers, and thank you to
those who came in under $50 forreasons of anonymity, or you're
on a sustaining donation, whichworks it gets you all the way to
knighthood and beyond. Weappreciate it any amount, any
frequent. See you make it up andonce again, thank you to our
Commodores who are about tobring up and have them arrive.

(03:15:05):
And our executive producers,Associate Executive producers,
Knights and Dames and everybodyelse. No agenda donations.com.
You've got karma. No agendadonations.com. Eight. There we
have Shira steinline celebratingtoday. Sir Marvin wishes his

(03:15:31):
daughter, Cassandra mitzner,happy birthday. Turns 38
tomorrow. Hey. Sir Felix inAustralia, turns 15 on Tuesday,
the 29th of November. Butbecause he lives in the future,
that will be Monday, the 28thfor the no agenda fans, that, of
course, is from his from hisdad, Sir Chris Wilson and Dame
Kiley. Nice to hear from them.Ed Lyon wishes his son, Nathan

(03:15:54):
Lyon, a happy 111, years old onOctober 30. And finally, on her
birthday list. Sir cut board,happy birthday from everybody.
Here's the best part of

Unknown (03:16:14):
the universe.

Adam Curry (03:16:15):
We welcome Sir Tom, who now becomes surveyor,
Commodore of the NorthernNorthwest lakes. I'm not quite
sure exactly. I think it becamea Viscount and Sir il Pope D
cyclismo, now Baronet sir ilPope D siklismo. And
congratulations to both of youfor supporting the no agenda

(03:16:36):
podcast in another $1,000 ormore. It is highly appreciated.
Now it's time to bring in ourmost recent list of Commodores.
This is it, the final one. Quitea list we have.
We welcome Commodore David RosaCommodores, or hopscotch
Commodores, Billy Bones. BillyBones. Commodore, David, get

(03:16:59):
over it. Lady. Get over it.Commodore, Jennifer Hughes,
Commodore, Tyler, Commodore,Craig Allen, Commodore, Ryan
Jones, Commodore, surveyor.Commodore, Greg Clifton,
Commodore, Roger Commodore, Mattthe metal bend. Commodore,
Robert corbeck, Commodore,Harris, Commodore, scalen
Commodore, Sharkey, Commodore,EA Commodore, Q of d l Moore,

(03:17:20):
Commodore, Zachary stocksville,Commodore of the South.
Commodore, Jim Turner,Commodore, George P perdell,
Commodore of NederlandCommodore, Keaton stone,
Commodore, dude named BenCommodore, C sir, P res of FL
330 Commodore, circuit sir. Cutboard, Commodore, Fort and the
trio fleet Commodore, me outisonDamia, odessen, Commodore, sir

(03:17:42):
il Pope, dcismo and CommodoreWest

Unknown (03:17:48):
arriving. Whoo, quite

Adam Curry (03:17:51):
a list. There a beautiful list. And if that
wasn't enough, we've got Knightsand Dames, and we have quite a
number of knights and a dame sobring out a sword I got

John C Dvorak (03:18:01):
the big, quite a number sword.

Adam Curry (03:18:05):
Jennifer Hughes Tyler, Craig Allen, Craig
Clifton, Aubin Q Andrew Perezand David West, step on up. All
of you have become knights anddame of the no agenda, round
table, I am proud to pronouncethe KV is Dame Jen, legal drug
dealer of the Cedar Valley, sirTyler in Alaska, sir Craig Allen
of Gila, Gila River, sir cliffy,sir Q of DL, more sir P, res,

(03:18:28):
Commodore, FFL 330 and Sir JoeMcGillicuddy for you. We've got
hooker, some blow rent poison,Chardonnay, along with Eagle
rare bourbon and 902 filet cookmedium rare IPA and a club
Ferris file set Texas brisketand beans and brown swagger for
smoking hot wife Maggie. And ofcourse, we have the mutton and

(03:18:49):
Mead lined up for you here, justlike the Commodores. And some of
you will be Commodores as well.Go to no agenda rings.com that
is where you can find picturesof these beautiful rings. And of
course, you can fill out yourring size. There's a handy ring
size guide there. Along with thering, you will receive your
certificate of authenticity andwax because of the signet ring

(03:19:11):
to seal your importantcorrespondence. Congratulations,
Dame and knights and Commodoresand new title holders. Welcome
once again to the peerage ladderof the no agenda show.

(03:19:32):
We got a couple of meet upreports. The Ottawa Meetup is a
written report. This is from themeetup report themselves. Huge
success. We had 15 people showup. This was their first one,
this meant that there were somany of us that we didn't even
all get to talk. So we willdefinitely be holding another
one. I hope that this meetuphelps the show in some smaller,
even bigger way. Well,connection is protection. It

(03:19:52):
helps everybody. A thank you toeveryone who came, of course, a
thank you for giving us themeans to meet up and for all
that you and John do sincerely.The. Ottawa meetup, and then, as
requested, and they deliver,here's a meetup report from the
Porto portal. Meet up inPortugal

Unknown (03:20:08):
in the morning. Greetings from Portugal.
Greetings from the Porto. Porto.This is Sir Atlas chance and I
pass around the phone.
Hello, Adam and John. This isDECA Fletcher from Porto.
Cheers. We love you guys in
the morning from Sir il Pope decilismo,

(03:20:32):
the only criminal in themeeting. No spokes here in
the morning Porto, Portugal fromHong Kong.
We love you.

Adam Curry (03:20:48):
That sounds like a bunch of criminals, actually,
and it sounds a bit like aEurovision voting thing. It was
interesting. I'm glad you guysdid that. Thank you very much.
Now, there was a big one for ouranniversary in London. This is
the London meetup report,

Unknown (03:21:03):
g'day mateys.
It's Campbell from Kent.
I got nothing so happy birthday.
And John and Adam. Sarah hereBrian, not Brian of London, and
not Brian with an eye thinks Ilook like Graham Hancock. That's
weird. Hello in the
morning, John and Adam andcongratulations on 17 more years

(03:21:25):
from crime. The Black Knightfrom Royal wood ambassador, hi.
This is Emma, not raped, fromLondon. Whoopsie.
Happy birthday. No agenda. Keep
on rocking here in London.
Hello, everybody. Luisa fromBrazil, happy birthday.
Hi. I'm Gustav from Brazil.

(03:21:45):
Thanks for your curry in themorning. Adam and John, happy
17th. I haven't been with youthe whole time. Just the last
four years I've been streamingyou SATs. Where do they go? By
the way, I never hear mention ofthem. But here's the four more
years of streaming you thosesweet Satoshis. It's Jack of the

(03:22:06):
Golden rumors in the
morning. Everyone. Happybirthday, John and Adam. Four
more years not here. Hello, Johnand Adam. This is Sir Arctic map
from the high peak, saying Happy17th birthday to you guys. You
may remember me from jinglessuch as my Sharia law ISIS in
America, we take our guys andfour more years.

(03:22:28):
Hello, we're malex from the bigsmoke and happy birthday. No
agenda.
Woof the cock here at the Londonlongest standing member meet up
part three, and I'm wondering,where is our Viscount of the
South East and London? So, Luke,where are you? You?

Adam Curry (03:23:06):
You know they say no agenda. Meetups changes your
life. I think that's proof,right there. That's a good bunch
of people. There's a meet uptomorrow the land of Walt's meet
up in Minneapolis, Minnesota, atpunch bowl social. That'll kick
off at 530 and then, if you goto no agenda meetups.com you
will see there is a slew, just aslew of meetups all the way

(03:23:29):
through November, into December,into January. I suggest you go,
take a look, find a meetup. Goto this connection is
protection. You will meetchildren from other lands, and
you will make relationships thatwill last forever. Some people
even hook up. No agenda.Meetups, calm. If you can't find
one near you, start oneyourself. Sometimes

Unknown (03:23:47):
you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days.

Adam Curry (03:23:59):
Everybody knows everybody knows, so everybody
feels the same and knows yourname. Are you going to tell me
you don't have any ISOs?

John C Dvorak (03:24:10):
I'm being magnanimous, and I'm letting,
allowing, because I've beendominating these things. I'm
giving it to you. I'm giving thefloor. This is a very bowing and
giving you this is because thisis bad.

Adam Curry (03:24:25):
Why is it bad? You one crappy ISO one. No one. I
have one. I'm I was counting onyou. Well, then this is the
winner. He's

Unknown (03:24:38):
really, really bad, very, very bad.
That's not

Adam Curry (03:24:41):
good. No, it's very bad. It's very, very bad. I
can't use that well

John C Dvorak (03:24:49):
into the well and pick something out. Okay,

Adam Curry (03:24:51):
I'll dip in the well. I'm gonna scroll all the
way down. I'm just gonna grabsomething. And I

Unknown (03:24:56):
am triggered. I'm so triggered. How about that?

John C Dvorak (03:24:59):
I love. That? Okay,

Adam Curry (03:25:01):
wow. What is that? How did that happen? That was no
good. Oh, that was horrible.Wow. Man, that is not how I like
to do my transitions. I'm sosorry. And now everybody, it's
time for your favorite part ofthe show. What is John's Tip of
the Day?

Unknown (03:25:22):
Just a tip with JC.
And sometimes I don't,

John C Dvorak (03:25:29):
well, this is a screwy one, but I definitely
something I need to talk about.Okay, I'm recommending another
product. There's a bunch ofpeople that make this product
surprise another this is a lidremover type can opener.

Adam Curry (03:25:45):
Oh, these are actually quite handy to have
around the house. I've

John C Dvorak (03:25:48):
discovered these things in France in the 70s.
When I was visiting, I went toFrance one of my trips, when I
was working for the government.I go to France all the time,
yes, and I bought one there,which I still have, and it still
works. And this is differentthan the can and by the way, and
I had to wait 20 years to seehim in the United States because

(03:26:09):
I think there's a patent.There's something involved in
this. But what this thing does,and it's called a smooth edge,
it's called a lid remover. It'sgot different titles for what
they are. You have to be carefula normal can opener, cracks the
top of the can, and you grindaround, and it rips open the can
and leaves. It gives you a sharpedge thing and cut yourself.

(03:26:30):
These lid removers takeliterally, reach under the lid
and pull the unlatch the lid,the entire lid from the can,
pull it off, and then you dumpthe product out, and then you
can wash the can and put the lidback on it. It's like of can.
This is amazing. These thingsare the absolute best. They're

(03:26:50):
actually it takes a little morework to get them once you get
the hang of them, because youhave to put it at a certain
angle and to make it work. Butyou have one.

Adam Curry (03:26:59):
I do not have one. I'm thinking, I need to get one.
Oh, I

John C Dvorak (03:27:03):
thought you said they're great. Well, I've

Adam Curry (03:27:06):
seen old ladies use them. Oops, sorry. Old

John C Dvorak (03:27:08):
ladies don't even know what they are. I've seen
old ladies use can openers.

Adam Curry (03:27:13):
This, this, yeah, yeah. It sounds like something I
might, I might want to pick up.You'd

John C Dvorak (03:27:18):
love it these things. You should the can
opener, which just rips off therips off the top, is not
anything like these lidremovers. And what you want is
one of these things. Theythey're about to say, eight,
nine bucks. Maybe they're onceyou get to hang out how to use
them, because it does take alittle skill more than a can
opener, and they're justdynamite. And once you start

(03:27:38):
using them, you go, wow, why?Where's this been all my life?

Adam Curry (03:27:41):
So this is basically a better mouse trap. Yeah. And
do you have a brand in mind? No,there's

John C Dvorak (03:27:51):
about 20 guys will make them, and they're all
They're pretty much all the samedesign, and they get underneath
the lid lip, and they under,hook the lid from the can, and
they pull the whole lid off,yeah, and they can be put back
on.

Adam Curry (03:28:05):
This is an amazing Tip of the day, another winner
from John C Dvorak. It is thetip of the day. Everybody. You
can find the tip of the day.net.JCD,

Unknown (03:28:20):
just a tip with JCD
and sometimes Adam.

Adam Curry (03:28:26):
Well, there it is. We wind up episode number 17. I
mean, anniversary number 17.Episode 1707, on october 27 Does
it get any crazier than that? Idon't think so. Thank you all
very much for being here trollsand oh, look at this. If you

(03:28:46):
just stay with us, like, don'tleave your modern podcast app if
you're listening to the streamor the troll room coming up
next, we have DH unplug number724, mega buyers. Revealed is
that the one from this pastTuesday.

John C Dvorak (03:29:03):
Yeah, must be okay.

Adam Curry (03:29:05):
I haven't heard it yet, so I think I'll stick
around and have a listen. Andyou should come back to see
what's going to happen, as wewill have all kinds of
disgusting Halloween clips onThursday, and we'll get you all
primed and ready for ElectionDay. Crazy coming to you from
the heart of the Texas HillCountry in the morning

(03:29:26):
everybody. I'm Adam curry, andfrom

John C Dvorak (03:29:28):
Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm still
wondering about Snoop Dogg. I'mJesse Dvorak.

Adam Curry (03:29:33):
End of show, mixes from nukes 3k David kector and
Professor Jay Jones from China.Remember us at no agenda
donations.com We'll talk to youon Thursday. Until then, adios,
Mo foes, a hooey, hooey andsuch. Get my.

Unknown (03:30:15):
Saturday night, no date to do the climate change, no
promotion at work
do the climate change, taxes andprices going up due to climate
change,
rental high insurance too, dueto climate change, no promotion
at work
due to climate change, taxes andprices going up due to climate
change.

(03:30:36):
Jesus climate change,
they say it's happening. We'reall getting hotter, but to me,
we looking like frogs in theboiler water. Saturday night got
no gas to do the climate change.Make the COVID sparse
due to climate change, taxes andprices going up due to climate
change. They
say it's all my fault, but Ican't even change my car's oil

(03:30:58):
at all. They say it's happening.We're all getting hotter, but to
me, we looking like frost in theboiler water. Power outages at
home due to climate change afterACR, but I'm still in the zone.
Green Jobs promise, but stillain't shown. Meanwhile, my
friend just keeps getting blownthey say it's happening, we're
all getting hotter, but to me,we looking like frost in the
boiler water. They talk aboutthe cows and all the men came.

(03:31:22):
My ball is empty, and I'mfeeling the pit world we save
it. Sure, that's true, but allthis government ain't helping me
or you. They say it's happening.World getting hotter, but to me,
we look at like frogs in theboiling water Saturday night.
Yeah, still hot. To do theclimate change working extra
shifts. But why? Due to climatechange. Do you

(03:31:42):
think Donald Trump is a fascist?Yes, I do. Yes, I do.
As important as Trump's Fascismis, and is the lead story every
day, his Cozen up to dictators,his obsession with Hitler that

(03:32:02):
has now come out.
Either you have the choice of aDonald Trump will sit in the
Oval Office stewing, plottingrevenge, retribution, writing
out his enemies list.
One other thing that you'll seenext week Caitlin is Trump
actually reenacting the MadisonSquare Garden rally in 1939 he

(03:32:29):
is killing us. Women have diedalready. Very reporting, by the
way, that shouldn't bequestioned by
idiots. Do
you think Donald Trump is afascist? Yes, I do.
So I always got more publicitythan other people, and I didn't.
It wasn't like I was crying. Infact, I don't know exactly why.

(03:32:50):
Maybe you can tell me, Oh, I can
definitely tell you, you said alot of wild shit.

Adam Curry (03:32:57):
Allow me to sum up this week's news. Hitler

Unknown (03:33:02):
is back. Hitler.

Adam Curry (03:33:04):
Hitler is back, everybody.

Unknown (03:33:07):
Let me take you back to 1939,
do you think Donald Trump is afascist? Hitler

John C Dvorak (03:33:13):
is back.

Adam Curry (03:33:14):
21% of Gen Z Americans think Adolf Hitler had
some good ideas. Actual

Unknown (03:33:20):
American Nazis.
It's a Nazi rally. How
dare you. Donald
Trump has said he'd terminatethe Constitution United
States, praising Adolf Hitler,saying
Adolf Hitler did some goodthings. Certainly
falls into the generaldefinition of fascists.
It's perfect to celebrate therise of Nazis that

(03:33:41):
Donald Trump would invoke AdolfHitler back
home to mommy. She goes backhome to mom.

Adam Curry (03:33:46):
How is that casting aspersions? This is next level Q
anon stuff.

Unknown (03:33:51):
They'll say, you know, Trump
supporters have set off a dirtybomb in Philadelphia. They're

Adam Curry (03:33:55):
counting on us to help him win. They're counting
on us to propagate their clips.Vowed

Unknown (03:34:00):
to be a dictator on day one. Someone
needs to calm her down.
Did not do some
good things now, okay,

John C Dvorak (03:34:07):
you stop it there.

Adam Curry (03:34:16):
The best podcast.org/n,

Unknown (03:34:20):
a I am triggered.
I'm so triggered. I.
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