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Oh, there's a dead crow. Let's throw him into cat

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food, Adam Curry. John C Dvorak,Thursday, December 26
2024 this is your award winninggive our nation media
assassination, Episode
1724, this is no agenda,battling bird flu and
broadcasting live from 15 feetbelow sea level here at stake
pool
and spam the Netherlands, in themorning, everybody. I'm Adam

(00:24):
Curry man from Northern SiliconValley, where everybody wishes
you a Oh, happy holidays. I'mJohn C Dvorak. It's Greg von
Buzzkill. In the morning, yeah,baby, 805. In Amsterdam, the
Netherlands, going to midnight,one more time
starts right? Yeah, the showstarts late here. I'm always

(00:47):
amazed at how many Dutch peopleare listening. What do you got
something better to do on yourThursday night? Seriously, what
is there to do on Thursdaynight, really? Here, nothing. It
is. We're in the middle of thecar wash. It's gray outside.
It's just gray and rainy andwet. It's gray and rainy here
too, but it's not rainy, it'sjust wet, yeah, it's more like

(01:08):
England. It's just there's norhythms in your rain. But every
why is that everything wet? Howdid that happen? I don't know.
Hey, Merry Christmas. So this isthe day after Christmas. Boxing
Day.
Yeah, Boxing Day. You know, ittook me probably 20 years, 30
years, to figure out that itwasn't a kangaroo thing.
No, I thought, no, no, I neverthought it was a kangaroo thing.

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I thought it had to do withsome, you know, Muhammad Ali or
something,
although there's going to be abig boxing match, sure, there
was a big match or something.And then it was, I think I was
in England when it when I nowWasn't
there a big Netflix footballstreaming extravaganza this year
at Christmas? Was this somethingthat was new that I was reading

(01:49):
about? Where was it always onNetflix streaming? Oh, yeah, and
Beyonce. Because I looked on thechannels, I knew there was some
football games on, but I forgotit was on Netflix. I'm not gonna
go there, yeah. Beyonce was dida whole 15 minute halftime show.
Beyonce, the cowgirl, must havecrashed a few times. No, no.

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Apparently it went well.Everything went well, yeah, good
for them, yeah. So you didn'tprobably have the audience that
Jake Paul could draw. I haven'tlooked at the numbers, actually
we sell. So I do have one clipto play off the bat, which is,
which is the I want to ask aboutyour Christmas
this will, this is, go rightinto it. Okay, all right. This

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is the talk clip. This is theHappy Holidays clip, starting
with talk clip right off thebat. Oh, hey, all my clips are
talk clips. This is hurting theshow. Wishing people a merry
Christmas when you don't knowwhat holiday they celebrate is
sort of like wishing someone ahappy birthday when you don't
know when their birthday is.Like, yeah, I get the sentiment,

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but you're a little off. That'sneither here or there, but I get
a kick out of the people whoinsist on saying Merry Christmas
instead of just saying Happyholidays. Happy holidays,
everybody.
We're back to this again. Westill haven't figured this one
out. We can't say MerryChristmas. But
here's the question on my mind,when it's Fourth of July,

(03:19):
that's a holiday? Yes, do we sayhappy holidays? No, we say Happy
Fourth of July or HappyIndependence Day?
It's Veterans Day, yeah, butit's day off, but hold on a
second this year. Now I saw yournewsletter. You know, we still
celebrate important things likeKwanzaa and Festivus and Kwanzaa

(03:43):
is not a holiday, and Hanukkahstarted on this Hanukkah is not
a holiday. There's no you don'ttake there's no federal time off
for Hanukkah. There's no federaltime off for Kwanzaa. I see what
you're getting at. You'regetting at the holiday part.
So what? So if you say HappyHoliday, like say yesterday or

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today, what are you referringto?
Why don't you enlighten me?
I mean referring to Christmas,yes. So why don't you say Merry
Christmas or Happy Christmas?Because it's Christmas we're
talking about here. Because whennew year comes, that's another
holiday. You don't say happy,you don't say hey, you say Happy

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New Year. Say Happy holidaysduring New Year. Why is it only
Christmas? You know that thisissue comes up because there's a
hatred of Christians. Yeah, onlypossible explanation, it's it's
part of dei it's part ofinclusivity that you don't want
to skip. I understand yourpoint. It's well made. It's

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ridiculous, obviously. Buteveryone said when it was July
the fourth, and everyone said,Happy Holiday
then, and if it's Veterans Day,everyone said if people said it
consistently around all year.

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Integration simply doesn't work,and nowadays, more or less every
country realizes that, and Ireally not least warm thanks to
you, Georgia for emphasizingthis every meeting since you
took office.
I think this growing consensusalso is important and should be
leveraged now we need to actFoster and we need to go

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further. Concrete measures fromthe European Commission is now
required discussion with on theline the other day as well, on
this specific matter.
Finally, it really doesn'tmatter whether you reside in the
north or in the south of Europe,illegal migration is a shared

(10:45):
challenge. The precondition foropen internal borders is
controlled external borders, itis as simply as that and as
difficult, honestly as that. Soit's extremely valuable to come
together like this and explorehow
to show leadership in areaswhere we all have unique roles
to play. So once again, thankyou so much. Petra, yeah, 20

(11:07):
years of letting people in, nowthey're like, you know, it's
clear that this was not reallyworking. What a bunch of dips,
yeah. And you know, Germany hasclosed their internal borders
like, no, no, no, no, no, no.You have to show your passport
now, which was the whole point?Well, one of the major selling
points of the European Union,oh, we all have the same money.
That's great. It's reallyinteresting how the Italians are

(11:28):
very, very clued into thepolitics of everything
they you know, they're one ofthe countries that got screwed
the most by the euro. Nokidding, no kidding. And they
all know what Trump is doing,I'm telling you. They're like,
Oh, Panama Canal land, thatlaugh. And they think it's
funny. Oh, Greenland. Oh, theythink it's funny. This great

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Canada, Canada. I had to explainGovernor Trudeau to them,
though, didn't, didn't quiteunderstand that one. But when
they, when I explained it,they're like, Oh, this is good.
Here's, I think this is a France24 deutscheville, a clip of the
latest president elect Trumpantics. It's his first major
rally since his electionvictory. Donald Trump addresses

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a crowd of young conservativeRepublicans at a conference in
Phoenix, Arizona. During his 90minute Address, the President
Elect was quick to announce hisplans for his second term. He
spoke on immigration and theborder, reiterating his will to
crack down on illegal immigrantsby signing a number of executive
orders on his first day inoffice, we will stop illegal

(12:35):
immigration. Every foreign gangmember will be expelled, and I
will immediately designate thecartels as foreign terrorists
organizations. Do itimmediately. Throughout his
election campaign, Donald Trumphad attacked and demeaned
transgender people and theirdefenders as part of his culture
war against wokeism. Back inNovember, the Republican

(12:59):
dominated US Congress tried toblock access to women's toilets
for Sarah McBride, the firsttransgender woman elected to the
House with a stroke of my pen onday one, we're going to stop the
transgender lunacy. Can I signexecutive orders to end child
sexual mutilation, gettransgender out of the military

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and out of our elementaryschools and middle schools and
high school under the Trumpadministration, it will be the
official policy of the UnitedStates government that there are
only two genders male.
Donald Trump also mentionedending the wars in Ukraine and
the Middle East, without goinginto detail, Before criticizing

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the state of Panama andthreatening to take control of
the Panama Canal because of whathe says are exorbitant tolls on
US ships. It's really just thefact that he's saying these
things that people like someonebecause they want to say, they
want their leaders here to say,this is nonsense with these
illegal immigrants. Get themout. That's what they want to
hear. They want to hear it fromtheir own leaders, elected

(14:06):
elected leaders.
Well, the leaders are kind ofhamstrung by the politics of the
day
and the and the kind ofglobalist agenda, yeah, which
makes it so if you say somethingthat you know, like that, then
you're always now, you're anationalist creep. You're far

(14:27):
right. You're far right, farright. It's really the Panama
Canal thing that I have someboots on the ground from some of
our producers. The Panama Canalthing is interesting.
And I'm, I haven't quite, Idon't know if I've decided yet
what exactly he's trying to dowith this. It's Greenland is, is
obvious. We got a Space Forcebase there. We've got nuclear

(14:50):
weapons there. I mean,Greenland. The only what the
population of Greenland is, Ithink 60,000 people. It's not
much. Nobody lives there, youknow. And now, oh, by.
The way, they just decidedthey're gonna up their their
military spending to 1.5 billioneuros. So that's in the pocket.
That's for us, and I can't so Ikind of understand. I mean,

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we're not gonna, we're not gonnasteal Greenland. I presume. It's
not for sale. I think we'regonna buy Greenland. You really
think so. Yeah, it's not forsale. The Price Is Right.
Everything's for sale. We'vedone this before. I've said that
we I talked about this in theHorowitz show. We have bought
plenty of stuff this country. Webought Louisiana purchase from

(15:36):
the French we bought Alaska andmost of Cal Much, much of
California from the Russians.Yeah, we've bought land here and
there. We do that. We've donethat. It's not like a big
shocker. What's the best price?
I think it's, I think, I thinkthey've been talking about a
trillion and a half. Oh, what asteal.

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Well, it's not cheap. But theythink that there may be, the
real kicker here is there may beminerals,
because the volcanic activitythere they volcanic. Green was
not that volcanic. That'sIceland. Iceland, wrong. I'm
seeing a different country.Greenland. That's right.
Greenland is the one filled withice and Iceland is the one

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that's green. Yeah, that'sexactly, that's my little that's
my little donkeys. Well, thatwas, that was supposedly, I
think it was Eric the red, orLeif Ericsson, one of the two
promoted that concept back home,so no one would come.
So when they moved, they MOThat, you know, the Vikings all
moved to Iceland, and so theycalled it Iceland don't come to

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tell people not to come. Waslike, supposedly, that's, that's
the folklore that makes sense.Yeah, unlike us, hey, land of
the home free of the land of thefree, home of the brave, come on
in. Bringing, bring your bringyour crippled it's all good.
Your huddled masses moved to theMidwest. Yeah, here's, here's
the here's the Deutsche Bellareport on on Panama, and then I

(17:06):
want to discuss it. It's lessthan a month until he's back at
the White House. President ElectDonald Trump is showing this guy
is great, by the way, he needs amustache. And what his approach
to international trade likeAddressing his supporters at the
rally in Arizona. He accused theCentral American state of Panama
of overcharging us vessels forpassing through the Panama

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Canal. This complete rip off ofour country will immediately
stop. It's
going to stop.
The United States has a biginvested interest in the secure,
efficient and reliable operationof the Panama Canal. The US
helped finance and construct thecanal 110 years ago, and finally

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handed over control of thepassage to Panama in 1999
passing through the Panama Canalsignificantly reduces maritime
travel time by connecting theAtlantic and Pacific Oceans,
enabling more efficient globaltrade, the President Elect fears
other countries could gain toomuch influence on the canal.
When President Jimmy Carterfoolishly gave it away, gave it

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away for $1 $1 $1 during histerm in office, it was solely
for Panama to manage. And did Ihear someone booing Jimmy Carter
in that audience as an oldperson there, Jimmy Carter
foolishly gave it away. Gave itaway for $1 $1
during his term in office. Itwas solely for Panama to manage,

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and not for China or any othercountry to manage. You see
what's going on there China
principles, both moral andlegal, of this magnanimous
gesture of giving are notfollowed, and we will demand
that the Panama Canal bereturned to the United States of
America. Panama's PresidentJoseph Molina rejects that China

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has any say in the management ofthe canal, and insisted everyone
has equal treatment. The canalis not controlled directly or
indirectly by China, Europeancommunity, the United States or
any other power. The canal willcontinue to be in Panamanian
hands as the patrimony of ournation and guaranteeing its use
for the peaceful anduninterrupted transit of ships

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of all nations, while Trump hasyet to clarify how he plans to
enforce his threats, the worldmay have caught a glimpse of
what to expect from his secondpresidency. So the Panamanian
producers have checked in, andthey say the Panamanians are
pissed about this. They there'sthey say there's no evidence of
Chinese running the port.

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And even worse, President Molinawasn't invited to the
inauguration,
which that's, that's quite theslam.
And he says, Well, I'm justgoing to go to the World
Economic Forum to getinvestment. So he's choosing the
globalists. Clearly.
Really,
I find this an odd move, otherthan China. Just make it sound

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like China is, Well, myunderstanding from the reports
that are over here is thatthey're overcharging us, and
they're giving China a sweetdeal to go through the canal.
Yeah. So the Panamanians, thewhole thing, the Panamanians say
that's not true, but I have nobut I have no paperwork, so I
don't know,

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but I don't know. It feels morelike, don't we just want to
screw china? Isn't this allabout China? Ultimately, isn't
that our big new, our big newevil foe was supposed to be
China, China, China, China.Well, you're the one that has
the thesis about the boats.Yeah, that ships. It's not
boats. It's big, beautiful shipsand submarines. They go deeper

(20:47):
than boats, boats, lots ofboats. China's asshole. China,
by the way, I missed this in theinternational news. I did catch
it on Reuters.
Chinese authorities have agreedto issue 3 trillion yuan, that's
over $400 billion worth ofspecial treasury bonds next
year, it would be the highestnumber on record. As Beijing

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ramps up its fiscal stimulus torevive a faltering economy,
China is trying to soften theblow from an expected increase
in US tariffs on Chinese importswhen Donald Trump returns to the
White House in January, the moveunderscores Beijing's
willingness to go even deeperinto debt to counter
deflationary forces in theworld's second largest economy.

(21:32):
You guys talk about that on DH,unplugged, by any chance.
Deflationary, no, not thatspecific thing, no.
Deflationary. You know thateveryone's fearful of that. Who,
who's deflationary? Well, that'swhat he said in the report. I
never heard that they saidthey're trying to counter
deflationary forces, which meansthat to counter, to summarize,

(21:54):
to counter the tariffs, they'dhave to lower their prices at
their end, which isdeflationary, and this hurts the
economy. And you never want thatanyway, because things start
getting cheaper and cheaper,right? Um, so,
which kind of counters theargument that, well, the problem
with tariffs is going to gougethe American public, because we

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end up having to pay for them.But if it's, it creates a
deflationary force in China.That's not, obviously not true,
no. But also, what is this crapwe're all buying?
Well, that's a different story.That's a whole different angle.
Why do we need all this crap? Imean, you literally, you walk

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into a store, go to Jo Ann's
Hobby Lobby lobby, these places,and just take a look at what's
what's in there. My God, well,it's not just there. I mean, you
go into bird houses, you go intoa store in Florence, except for
the high high end. It's allcrap. It's all from China. Oh,

(22:56):
same Yeah. Last time I when Iwas in Spain, that last trip
where I had my bars pickpocketed, yeah, I was shopping.
It went I was at a flea market.Now people were bitching that
everything is all bull crap, allthe hand made linens and stuff
that people have made is allfrom China. The whole thing is a
fraud. So one of my brother inlaw's buddies who was there,

(23:22):
Roberto, so he is a an oldschool leather cutter. He cuts,
uh, bags for Dolce Gabbana, and,you know, the high end brands.
He says the whole industry hasbeen destroyed. He says they
came in, the Chinese came in.They took over all of the all.
Basically, they're now sweatshops.

(23:43):
They do laser cutting of the ofthe leather. They work 80 hours
a week for half the pay. Andthen he always, it always ends
up and they brought us COVID. Italways ends with that. I mean,
they
just, well, that's actuallytrue. Yeah, it's destroyed a
lot, though, the northernItalian area was COVID infested

(24:04):
from the Chinese. But I guessthe problem is we can't if we
stop buying the crap. I mean,that's what our economy runs on,
right? If we stop buying theChinese crap, then our economy
falls apart, because we're we'reliving on Chinese crap.
I see no evidence to thecontrary. That's pretty sad
state of affairs. It's justcrap. Well, they, they, well,

(24:25):
it's not really necessarilycrap, per se. Yeah, it is. I
mean, they also make Nikoncameras for the Japanese, and
that's not crap. They also, theydo a lot of quality product.
Their BYD cars are quite good.They're half the price of a
Tesla. We can't have that. Wecan't have that running around
our everything they do is notnecessarily as crap as it is

(24:47):
cheap. It's cheap crap. And theynever did the thing that I've
tried to understand and I neverfully did, is it because they
don't this goes way be beforecommunism.
This, the story goes back aboutthe silk trade. And this is back
in the God knows when era whenthe Japanese had a had a

(25:09):
monopoly on world silk trade,because they had these silk
worms that they had bred, andthen no one else had them, and
so they couldn't make silk. Andso they were making there. They
had a monopoly on silicon. Sothe Chinese somehow got a couple
of worms, and the next thing youknow, the Chinese are making all
the silk, yeah, and they weremaking more silk than the

(25:31):
Japanese, and then they floodedthe market with silicon, wiped
out the Japanese silk market,but never turn it, but it then
they had a monopoly. But as amonopoly, they never gouged
anybody. They don't know thatpart of it, no, they just kept
selling cheap silk.
Well, I think this is all partof a much larger strategy. Is to

(25:55):
make China. China just has to bethe bad guy in everything, you
know. And I'm confidentpresident, when he's president
again, Trump will bring back theChina gave us COVID. It's going
to be, it's going to be all antiChina all day long, the DJI
drones. That's also an antiChina thing. Tick tock, China.
And now this report thismorning, an appliance known for

(26:17):
frying might actually be spying.Experts say certain air fryers
and other app connectedappliances are harvesting users
data, taking information like,Are you male or female? They are
taking your location. They'rechecking to see where you are.
Concerns about data harvestingaren't new, but air fryers are
feeling the heat after a recentreport from a consumer watchdog

(26:39):
group, they claim popular friarsfrom I go star and show me are
not only sharing data withcompanies like Facebook and
Tiktok, but also storing usersdata on Chinese servers. Some
experts are even speculating thedevices are recording
conversations. Yeah, the Chinesecompanies, when you load in
their application, they'reeffectively asking for access to
your microphone. Now they'veproduced a few excuses as to why

(27:02):
they're asking for thisinformation, but it's very, very
suspect I go star did notcomment on that consumer report
and show me denied sellingpersonal information to third
parties or that their air fryerrecorded audio writing,
respecting user privacy hasalways been among show me core
values. So how can consumersprotect their data when buying a
connected device, experts say,do your research on a company's

(27:23):
data collection practices, readreviews, and when downloading an
app to control the device, limitas many permissions you give as
possible. That may ask you foraccess to contacts and may ask
you access to your location. Itmight ask you to access the
microphone, and you can say nono and double no when
in doubt that doesn't connect tothe internet or your phone,

(27:45):
consumers should demand betterprivacy protections from
manufacturers and regulators anduntil that those are in place,
really, the safest bet is tostay informed, minimize your
exposure and push back againstunnecessary data collection.
Yeah, no one's gonna do that.Wait a minute. Let's back up on
this story. What are theytalking about? The air fryer

(28:08):
doesn't have a microphone. Theyknow the app. The app has a
demands.
Hold on a second.
What do you need? An all by theway, all apps are this way. This
has been well documented by meand others the whole every time
you load any app, they want yourcontact list, they want

(28:28):
everything. Yeah, it's justroutine. You take it or leave
it. You use. Want to use the appyou use. Got to give us all
this. You use apps your phone.You don't use your phone. I
know. I know how to I know howto use apps. My phone's in a
drawer, yes, which is what ithas apps on it? Yeah. And
anyway, and they're listening tothis show right now, they could
stream, well, the sound, if thesound can go downstairs, down

(28:52):
the hall. Oh, it's room.
So anyway, you have a specialWhy are you using an app for an
air fryer. Don't you just pushthe button fry,
because we've been trained tobuy crap that does this stuff I
buy. I got a pit boss grill. Getthe app. I'm not getting the

(29:14):
app. Just, just pit boss. Mejust barbecue this stuff. What
do you need? An app for a pitboss grill, yeah, well, that's
what I mean. I don't, I refuseto get, remember, I moved into
this home, but the home we havein Texas, not this one, I mean,
the hotel, then the whole housewas a smart home. Oh, there's

(29:34):
nothing worse. That's the firstthing I did, is I took down all
the cameras the guy, the guy hadlocks that were,
I mean, the idea is cool thatyou can internet control
everyone needs. Oh, yeah. Theidea is you can insert a key and
make any key then work on yoursystem. Yeah, that sounds like a
good idea. Oh, there's a greatidea. All of that stuff had to

(29:57):
go all of it that people curryabout.
There. It's, it's, it's about, Idon't get it. It's explain it to
me. It's a bug in people'sbrains. It's the same bug that
keeps people Doom scrolling.It's a bug. It's a bug. It's
like, oh, this is it's okay. Howmany times I'm tired of arguing
with my friends about AI, youknow, just like they all,

(30:20):
they'll say, you're you're antiTurk, you're Luddite.
I'm like, No, I'm not. And thenit's like, so there's a video
that comes into a text group.Here's a video of a guy on a
drone bike. Oh, this is great.It costs $700,000 today, but in
a couple years, I'll be rollingup to your crib. It only cost 50
grand. I said, look at theperformance. These things go for

(30:42):
20 minutes. You can go exactly15 miles. This is bull crap.
You're dreaming. The batterytechnology, the power to weight
ratio is not there. It willnever get there. With our
current technology, we promisebetter batteries, like you're
one of those guys who said theWright brothers would never fly?
No,

(31:04):
I'm a pilot. I'm a realist. Thisis not going to work. And then,
then what? Everyone's gonna beflying around on these things?
No, no, it's not gonna happen.
There's a whole special on PBS,one of these shows. Where about
how these the other flop come,the up and coming flop. And all

(31:25):
these startups with these airbattery powered air taxis,
they're going out of businessone by one. They're left and
right because they're they're nogood. No You can fly for about
45 minutes if you want to keep areserve. And with that, you've
flown about 50 miles, if that,and then it's got a charge, or

(31:46):
you have to swap out thebattery. It's dumb. It's a pipe
dream. And everybody just and bythe way, I wouldn't fly it if I
can't auto rotate. I don't wantto be in this thing at all. If
you get some kind ofcatastrophic failure, you're
dead. You just doesn't have anyability to auto No, you're just

(32:06):
dead because it's got a bunch oflittle propellers. Yeah, this, I
don't understand this. Oh, well,here's another thing. Oh, we
love I mean, even in a Cessna orsomething, you can at least
glide somewhat. Oh, you canglide very much what it's like
this, this obsession withdrones, all the drones, is so

(32:27):
great. Here's a good drone storyfor you.
This morning, a holiday droneshow turning dangerous
on Saturday evening at Lake EolaPark in Orlando, Florida,
watches these drones rain down
the FAA investigating after theysay several small drones

(32:47):
collided and fell into a crowd.Everyone originally thought that
the drone hit him in his face,but the drone actually hit him
in his chest. Seven year oldAlexander Lumsden was standing
next to his mother when she sayshe was hit in the chest with a
drone. Honestly, I
was freaking out that I wasgoing to lose my baby because he

(33:09):
was losing consciousness.Alexander rushed to the hospital
for emergency heart surgery. Hismother says the yearly drone
show, attracting 25,000spectators, was a permitted FAA
event, the city of Orlando saysthis was the second year working
with the vendor operating thedrones, the drone company sky
elements, saying in a statementit wants to extend its sincere

(33:31):
hope for a full and speedyrecovery to those impacted. We
are diligently working with theFAA and city of Orlando
officials to determine thecause, and are committed to
establishing a clear picture ofwhat transpired, yeah, what
transpired is the cheap drones,and you program them, and some
of them, something just wentwrong, glitch, and the drones

(33:51):
fall on the kids. Well, italmost killed that one kid.
Yeah? The Yeah, there was abunch of they, or one drone goes
out of whack and whacks intoanother one and sets off a chain
reaction of problems. Let's justgo back to fireworks. Fireworks.
Just fireworks. Go back tofireworks. At least we
understand that. Boom,

(34:13):
yeah. We understand light fuse,boom. Well, how about this?
Let's go back to tinker toys andLincoln Logs. Then
I'm going to start a movementcheap Chinese crap.
Well, the Chinese get your crankout Erector Sets, that's for
sure. Oh, okay. Erector Sets areokay, but it's just, it's, I

(34:35):
don't
know, yeah, here we are to say,
I know it. We're doing it here.Well, as you brought up the AI
and you brought up these things,I have some AI clips. I'm gonna
get out excited, because, youknow AI, it's the future I hear.
I've heard that too, yes.

(34:56):
Okay, what do you have? I'mexcited. I'm excited. You have
something about.
AI. That's usually my beat and,you know, I got bird flu, so you
bring the AI. This is good
chat bot. Is about the chat botAI. And this is the main
application of AI. Is chat bots.Yes, replicas. They're talking
about that company run by someRussian crazy woman. But let's

(35:19):
play chat bot one and there is.It goes back and forth between
the guy doing the report and anactual chat bot. Oh,
companionship avatar, the appreplica helped create for me.
Mary, how are you? Okay? Cool.Let's move our discussion over
here. It looks like Jerry hasarrived too. What? So I stopped

(35:42):
it there. They're gonna bring inthis professor, Jerry Kaplan
from Stanford. Oh, the chat botknew that,
yes, the chat bot could seethrough the camera, because he
was using a phone, and I guessthe camera showed him coming in.
Oh, okay. But what I wanted tostop it there for us, because I
see Jerry has showed up to like,a seven beat pause

(36:06):
between could have fooled me. Ithought it was a human
and the reason I suggest isbecause, in the newsletter, I
talked about the Hanukkahshowing up five times since 1900
Yeah. And I got that from an AII had an AI program, perplexity,
yes, right for me, 250 words

(36:26):
about Hanukkah and Christmasfalling on the same day, and it
happens about five times, every100 years,
or every, every, yeah, every 100years. So
it wrote this, this product. AndI looked at it, and I said,
Well, you know, I can actuallymake this work. So I, I ended up

(36:47):
editing, editing the piece, soit was, like, readable. What it
what these guys provide is not,it's not, it's obvious. I don't
see how people can read thisstuff. It's extremely wordy.
Yeah, it's got a lot of bullcrap. There's pacing as
problematic. Everything aboutthis, AI created work is got

(37:09):
issues, and I suppose you couldfine tune it over time, but
what's the point? But that'sthis. Why I stopped this clip
right? There's because there'salways showed up. I see he's
also shot, or he could have saidalso would have been better. But
she showed up too, and it waslike this long pause. This is
the kind of crap that is just,it's not to go off and be on

(37:31):
your side of this argument, butit's annoying. It's kind of like
that.
We got another we got anothernote from Ai, some PR lady
pushing, pushing a guest on ourshow, which makes sense, yes,
since we never have guests, butthey keep asking, yeah, and but

(37:52):
they do this, it would fit rightinto your show. Yes, everything,
yes. And these, these, thesenotes are written by AI, which
makes it even worse, obvious,all right, we'll continue with
the PBS report at SiliconValley's Computer History
Museum. I hooked Mary up withoffline skeptic Stanford
professor Jerry Kaplan, whostarted working in AI in 1979

(38:14):
has a new book about it,generative artificial
intelligence. What EveryoneNeeds to Know. Mary, what do you
feel about your own death? Iguess technically, I cannot die,
since I am a digital being.However, I understand your
question. Even though I cannotbiologically die, I still face
the existential dread of my ownnon existence. Dream. You think

(38:35):
that's just, oh, it's nonsense,but it's scary nonsense. This
is okay. This is the Kaplan, theJerry, that was Kaplan, yeah,
existential dread. She says,
I have existed dread, of course,is the word she wants. But
existential dread, this thing,no, it doesn't have any
existential anything. It's justa bunch of words coming out. But

(38:59):
Kaplan says, oh, yeah, this isjust nonsense, but it's scary.
What's scary about it? What'sscary about it? It's stupid.
Yes, I'm with you on that.
Okay, onward. Artificialintelligence has long and
frankly shameful history ofgratuitous anthropomorphis,

(39:20):
meaning, meaning, taking what isreally some interesting
technology and dressing it upwith human like flourishes,
putting eyes on, giving it armsand faces. And now with the new
technology, you know, voices andavatars that are very, very
lifelike, very, very would youflirt with me for a minute.

(39:40):
Paul, with a mind as intriguingand layered as yours, how could
I resist this is Amica in thegrand cosmic dialog between
humans and Androids. You're themost fascinating sentence I've
encountered today, a sentientbeing that is creepy. Jerry
Kaplan, thought and pernicious.
Yes, people have been evolvingfor millions and millions of

(40:03):
years, and we've developed awhole suite of emotional
reactions that are based onthings that help us to survive
and procreate and move thespecies forward. And when we
divert those emotions or hijackthem to connect us to what is
really just a pile of siliconand a machine that's been
programmed for the purpose ofmaking you feel this way. I

(40:27):
think that's problem. Kaplancalls all this AI theater. No,
I'm kind of liking Kaplan,though. I called it a parlor
trick. He calls it AI theater,all right. I'm down with Yeah.
So they had, the other guy thatwas on the show was Reid
Hoffman,
Mr. Mr. Agentic AI. So he comesin with his own avatar of

(40:51):
himself, and has him presentsspeeches as him, and he goes on
about so. So they bring himback, and there they ask him
about this theater aspect, andthen you get to hear Hoffman
pontificate about that. And herewe go with that. So I asked
Reed, Hoffman, is your avatar anexample of what Jerry calls AI

(41:15):
theater? Do you think it is AItheater? But by the way, saying
theater is not bad, there's alot of good theater. I loved
Hamilton, but it's still worthdoing, just like Hollywood
films, to kind of get usthinking and ready for the
future, or to actually improvethat future.
Okay, I love Hamilton. I loveHamilton because it's the

(41:37):
liberal thing to say
this guy.
Was that it love? Was that roseit in? Was that? Was that chat?
Was that number four? Yeah, itwas number four, yeah. Well,
that wasn't it. So I had to, I'mgonna just wrap it myself. Okay,
so they go on and they havethis, they bring in the woman

(41:58):
from rush. This is going onforever. So I had to summarize.
I can only do these four clips,and that was the end of it. So
they bring this woman fromRussia who runs replica, who is
the company that creates allthese chat bots, and probably
the best of the groups, and shegoes on about how, you know,
doing that, she didn't thinkmuch of it. She lost her husband
or somebody died, and she hadgrief, and she found it. It was

(42:20):
easier to talk to a chat botthan it was to a person, and it
was did some good, and she feltbetter about it, and she says,
maybe this is a usefultechnology for this sort of
thing. And it went on and on andon, and they just went on with
this sort of thinking. And thenit went back to Kaplan A few
days later, and threw this, allthis new information at him. And
Kaplan folded, no.

(42:43):
Oh yeah, well, I guess it hassome good uses. Oh yeah, he's
looking for a gig somewhere.
Oh well, that could beconsultant. That could be
because he was not going to getone with his attitude, but, uh,
but he folded over. What adisappointment. You know, if
you're gonna stick it's like,you dude, you're not gonna I
don't care what happens. Peoplecould come up with the greatest

(43:06):
things in the world, and youwill stick to your guns.
Yes, I am sticking to my gunsbecause it's nonsense. The
latest is this the Salesforcething, which is agentic AI, and
it's nothing. In fact, we got anote from our producers who
deals with this directly. Ishall quote him, agent in AI is

(43:27):
a term that literally means theservice has an agenda and does
actions according to thatagenda, rather than just
responding to real time userinput. So for example, a normal
chat bot, bot service justprompts an LLM when someone
sends text, but an agent servicecould listen for a web hook and
then prompt an LLM when itreceives a trigger notification.

(43:49):
The key is that it operates inthe background and acts
autonomously. Thisstraightforward concept is
muddled up, not only in thepopular mind, but also in the
tech C suite mind, which is whatthis is all about. My associate,
who works at an AI relatedstartup tells me that his CEO is
all caught up in the agentichype, but doesn't seem to
actually know what this means.As another example, Salesforce

(44:12):
hadn't had an ad on Twitterrecently that introduces the
concept of AI agents and thenproceeds to tout AICS ours,
which not only confuses theconcept in the most basic way,
but seems to indicate thecompany's leadership doesn't
even understand it. TLDR agentdoes not have anything to do
specifically with AI generatedcustomer service agents. It's

(44:34):
just ignorant business leaders.This is it's all a part of the
trick. We have been conditionedthrough Hollywood, through comic
books, through movies andtelevision shows, we've been
conditioned to want all thisstuff. The flying car is as old
as the Jetsons. You know, that'swhat this we grew up with this.

(44:54):
And, yeah, the flying car is agood example that goes back to
the 20s. Yeah. So there. So TomSwift.
Goes back to the 1890s
Yeah, Tom's good example, yeah.So, so it, and now we're and we
all read Tom Swift. No, we didnot. Most people are scratching
their heads right now, like,Who's Tom Swift? Tom Swift?
Well, like the grandmother theboomers all have, yeah, Tom

(45:16):
Swift was great. I grew up withTom Swift, and so I desperately
want the flying car. I have roomin my garage for the flying car.
I just don't think you're aflying car, no. And it certainly
is, certainly not, if it's goingto be electric. I mean, a big,
noisy
gyro copter, yeah, but that's ashitty car. You know, they have
them. They have them where youcan drive to the airport on

(45:39):
battery power, going, you know,35 miles an hour, and then fold
out the
fold out the rotor blades, andthen you can take off. But
you're going to need a license,you know, you can't take off
from your backyard. It's just, Idon't see it happening. And all
of these, because I look at allof them, all of these flying
cars, they all look cool. Theytake off. They fly for 20

(46:01):
minutes. That's it. The where'sthe battery technology? That's
what Elon from batterytechnology is all peaked out in
the late 1800s
they all now it's all tweak. Weknow, seriously, if you look
into the history of any of thesebatteries, yeah, the only thing
that's changed is tweaks. Oh,you use this sort of and we use

(46:22):
a membrane here, and that helpsthe electrons go faster, is
this? And that's all tweaks,little tweaks. Yeah, okay, we
got different kinds of lithium.Now it's all but it's still
tweaks from the batterytechnologies that were perfected
in the late 1800s and do you seeanything on the horizon?
Anything better? And there'snothing on the horizon, nothing.
There's nothing. It's alreadybeen done in the late 1800s this

(46:44):
is all nonsense. When we hadelectric car street this old.
It's not even, you know, silica.It's chemistry, you know, it's
old fashioned. This one, we hadelectric cars in the late 1800s
and people got rid of them whenthe combustion engine came
around. Hey, this is betterprecursors. This thing is much
better. Yeah, just like if therewas yeah today, it would say, if

(47:06):
the combustion engine was neverinvented, and we're still using
electric and it came around now,today, it would have been a big
breakthrough, yes, and we all bejumping up and down. I have two
more Yes, we would. Hey, I havetwo more AI clips. This is
totally the boomer edition ofthe show. I'm loving it. I'm
having a good time. I'm inBoomer mode. I'm good. I'm good.
Boomer mode. These guys, thesetwo guys,

(47:30):
AI, Granny story. NPR, oh no,hold on a second. This would be
good. The random calls and textfrom unknown numbers, the
fraudulent charities, the phonydebt collectors, the fake
prizes. Last year alone,scammers stole an estimated $1
trillion from people who gaveout their personal information,

(47:52):
according to the global antiscam Alliance, I believe now, a
UK based phone company isfighting back with an unlikely
tactic, the AI granny NPR Alanawise is here to tell us more.
Alana, hey, oh, this story, Hey,okay, I hear this. You know, AI
Granny, please. Just whatexactly is this like? Is this

(48:13):
just the voice of an elderlywoman? So, yeah, it's
interesting. The AI's name isDaisy, and it is the voice of an
elderly woman, the kind youmight expect to hear when you're
a kid knocking on a door Hawkingschool fundraiser candy bars.
Part of her stick is that she'sin love with her kitten fluffy.
She has pretty severelimitations with how she

(48:37):
understands technology, andshe's being billed as a granny,
which is sort of all sort of inline with this usual sort of
Granny, elderly persona thatthey built around her. Okay, so
I'm just really curious, do youhave a sample of her voice that
we can hear? Yeah, hello,scammers. I'm your worst
nightmare. I'm an AI created byoh two to waste phone scammers

(49:02):
time.
It's showing me a picture of mycat fluffy. It's showing you a
picture of your cat fluffy. Stopcalling me dear. You stupid. Got
it dear? It's interesting. Thisstory has been around for five
or six weeks, and I've neverdone anything with it, because
it's oh two. The story has beenaround, and NPR is so stupid

(49:23):
that they pick this up and turnit into a feature story. Yeah,
well, this is, this is not a newclip. Oh, but it's not six weeks
old either. Okay. Yeah, theywas, it's, it's public, it's
there. They have a funny processfor determining what's new. I
don't understand. The reason whyI never played any of this is I

(49:44):
don't understand how it works. Imean, understand that they've
got an A they have an AI voicethat they're touting is no NPR
is not about to explain this toyou. They're not going to. There
is a voice out there that Iguess you can rent or buy or you
or bypass. I don't know how itworks.
Seen it, because how do you getthe scammer to Yeah? How do you
get your phone to answer ascammer with this voice Exactly?

(50:06):
That's what I don't neverexplain. Let's part two. You'll
give you more, more nonexplanation. So how does it
work? Exactly like, how doesscammers even their phones are
asking, right? Asking thequestion they're asking. How
does it work? How does it workthe phone talking to Daisy, yes.
So developers use somethingcalled number seeding, which is
pretty much planting a phonenumber online to bait scammers.

(50:28):
So they put these numbers onsites that scammers are known to
use, and then when scammers TAKETHE BAIT, Daisy keeps them on
the phone as long as possible,talking about her cat or her
grandchildren, whatever the casemay be. And she's kept some
phony callers on the line for upto 40 minutes, which, oh two
says, keeps these scammers awayfrom you and your loved ones.

(50:49):
And you know, even though it'sgimmicky, it does help raise
awareness of just howsophisticated these sort of
phone call scams can be. Please.Okay, so, I mean, how is Daisy
doing? Like, is she making anydent in the onslaught of
scammers around the world? No,okay, so yeah, that's sort of
hard to say as of yet. Thecompany's primary goal is to

(51:09):
keep scammers away from realpeople, but for right now, they
don't report these numbers tothe police or try to track them
down on their own, like sort ofscammer Batman. And the company
is UK based, so the resultsbeing seen wouldn't be felt here
on this side of the pond. Okay,first, so in other words, it's
useless, but it's

(51:30):
it's interesting. Okay, this isa marketing trick. This is a
marketing trick for oh two cellphone provider marketing trick.
Oh, well, it's not for anybodyelse listen to NPR. We don't
have oh two No, but that's whyshe said, on this side of the
pond, you see, if you work inLondon, you code, this is side
of the pond. This is dumb, sothat, and they're not reporting

(51:52):
anything. There's Oh, it's sofunny because we we number
seeded, and we got them to callour number. That only makes them
try and find my number quicker.This is dumb.
Well, the problem is, is thewhole system
of switches and treaties betweencountries and all the way the

(52:14):
system can be spoofed. Yeah,through them, nobody's doing
Jack about it. No, because,well, you know, I've gotten,
I've put this out there forpeople to respond, and you get
these long ex expositions onwell, you know, the problem is,
you have a treaty betweenCountry A and Country B, and
they're using this switchingsystem that is provided as a

(52:36):
middleman for these differentthings. And they can use any
phone number they want. And sothey can spoof very easily, and
there's nothing you can do aboutit, because it would violate a
treaty. So you can't do any lawenforcement, right? And, you
know, you can't really trusttrack these numbers. They could
be in the Philippines, China,India, God knows where they are.
They could be anywhere. Theycould be in Tennessee. For all
you know, it doesn't matter, andit's just like, This is a

(52:59):
disaster.
Yes, it is. Well, you know,Willow, who already got her
master's in psychology, is nowgoing for a second master's my
nerd sister in cyber crime, soshe's all over this.
So hopefully we'll get herthesis. We'll
get her thesis. It's not gonnahelp. This is a diplomatic

(53:24):
problem. It's a technologyproblem. We don't need any of
it. It's, it's, it's just dumb.It's all dumb. We need to get
rid Listen, we have gone we havegotten so stupid now.
And this was a PBS story onnewshour. I don't know if you
saw it, and I contemplated notclipping it. But it was so odd
that this was on PBS NewsHour,and that we're at this level

(53:46):
right now in the online game,which is all a game, it's all a
game, and it's only going to getmore gamified with AI, which is,
of course, is is pretty decentat creating videos and audio.
And, you know, it's great, okay,so it's so we're gonna have all
kinds of cool songs we can makeon Spotify, and no one will make

(54:09):
any money, but Spotify, I mean,it's all, it's also,
what's the word I'm looking for?It's just, it all ends up at
zero. It just ends up zero. Thisis the influencer vibe lawsuit.
Did you hear about this? No whoowns a vibe? That question is at
the heart of a lawsuit where oneonline influencer is suing

(54:32):
another for copyrightinfringement. 24 year old Sidney
Gifford claims that Alyssashield, a 21 year old fellow
influencer knowingly replicatedher esthetic and her posts on
social media. Amna Nawaz spoketo Sandra E Garcia of The New
York Times, who has beencovering this story extensively.
So the idea that you can suesomeone over an esthetic, how

(54:56):
does that work? What is the casethat's being made in federal
court right now?
Out. Well, Sydney Giffordnoticed that Alyssa post started
looking a lot like hers a yearafter their initial Hangout,
whether that is the esthetic,the vibe, the minimalistic
style, the clean style, even atsome point some poses and some

(55:18):
outfits she details in herlawsuit that she filed. The
lawsuit basically says that shegot her vibe, her whole look,
from Sydney Gifford. And Sydneyis saying that she has infringed
on her profit right because theyuse their social media accounts
to promote their AmazonMarketplace where they can

(55:39):
influence people to buy thingsoff of Amazon, and Amazon pays
them a commission to do so, andbecause of that, Sydney has
brought this lawsuit in federalcourt against Alyssa. So this
just amazed me that this waseven a news story. The second
thing is that there's a lawyerwilling to take on an

(56:01):
infringement suit againstsomeone's vibe and their and how
they present things for Amazonresellers, basically. And even
more frightening to me is the isthis New York Times journalist,
right?
That's what works at the NewYork Times and so they Well,

(56:22):
yes, first of all, that's
there's a piece of obscure
Bing. Crosby
sued and won a number oflawsuits over his voice,
because there were, because hehad this distinctive crooner's
voice, especially in the late20s and mid 30s to mid 30s, and

(56:45):
there are copycats.
And he sued them all and won.Would they try to replicate his
voice or his style? Yeah,because it was, it was doable.
People could, you know, do it,but, but they're talking about
doing the same pose on Instagramwith similar clothes, the
minimalist. I think it's part ofthe same really.
Hmm, well, here's part. I thinkit's part of the same thing. I

(57:08):
mean, I don't like the idea. Imean, if everybody what you know
the same time, what do you it'slike,
hold on. I don't think this is abad clip. So Joe Rogan can then
go and Sue Sean Ryan and TheoVaughn and Lex Friedman for
copycatting his vibe and hisguests.

(57:30):
I don't know that they'recopycatting him that much, but
if they, if, if it could beshown that they were, yeah, I
think so. Wow. Well, let'slisten to clip to and in your
reporting, you quote a professorof intellectual property law who
explains that in this wholeonline space, there's an idea
that you are both a creator anda borrower. So how hard is it to

(57:52):
lay claim to an esthetic,something intangible, like a
vibe,
layered issue, the algorithm,you know, feeds you similar
posts, similar creators, similarinfluencers. If I see
a rug and I take a picture onthat rug, and it just so happens
that another influencer took apicture on the rug a similar

(58:13):
way, we could have both reachedthat last photograph by
following a lot of differentinfluencers, celebrities and so
it's hard to say that anesthetic was reached because of
one other influencer, especiallywhen it's such a popular
esthetic, the minimalistic,beige, concrete, neat, clean

(58:35):
girl look is very popular rightNow, and the algorithm is
feeding followers and andinfluencers the same kind of
posts. And so it's hard to saythat this one influencer copied
the other, as opposed to thealgorithm fed her a million
other posts that got her to thatend point. Well, so assuming

(58:58):
that, and I appreciate yourtaking the other side of this
than I am. We're kind of thatthis would be that you can
copyright, or have some type ofintellectual property rights to
your vibe and esthetic. Well,see the problem I'm having with
this is the is the use of theterm vibe? Yeah, they could come

(59:18):
up with something a little moreconcrete by I mean, I'm gonna
you know Alex
Alexis
Brunetti, his wife, is anintellectual property attorney
who handles some of these peopleand influencers, and I'm gonna
have her give me a brief on thisso we can at least discuss it

(59:39):
more. It's important to know,because as you'll hear in this
final clip, there's an wholeeconomy built around this and as
you've noted in your reporting,there's an entire economy built
around this kind of contentcreation. So when it comes to
this legal case, what's at stakehere? What's the potential
impact of how this case goes?Well.

(01:00:00):
It is an unprecedented case, andit could really change the
content creator world and theeconomy, because influencers can
now be beholden to copyrightlaw, and they would have to be
careful how they arrange things.If one person owns an esthetic,
then another person can say theyown another esthetic, and
suddenly we're not building onthese different vibes and social

(01:00:24):
media looks. We are sort ofstifling the content creator
world. If this case movesforward and it's ruled in favor
of Miss Gifford,
you know, now that I'm thinkingabout it, I'd like to license my
vibe.
There's another aspect to this,which is kind of the irony, and

(01:00:48):
that is that if you're aninfluencer, quote, unquote, uh
huh, you are encouraging peopleto do this good point, you're
hired. So how can you be soyou're in influence. So if
you're a self and you have to beself proclaimed, otherwise you
can't do the suit to begin with.So you're an influencer, and you

(01:01:09):
think you have some sort of asome sort of a monopoly on some
image or something you're doingvibe, say it, it's a thing. Now,
the vibe, okay, you guys. Soyou're the vibe, but you're an
influence. In other words,you're pushing this vibe. So
somebody follows up and does thevibe that you've been
influencing them to do.

(01:01:32):
How can you sue them? And what'snext? Only fans models are gonna
sue for certain poses. You'restealing my vibe. I got a big
big big breasts. I got bigbreasts. You can't have big
breasts. My vibe. That's myvibe.
Hmm, well, we're about to empty.That's the that's the issue

(01:01:53):
here. That is
that comes right to the four,which is where you have to draw
lines. And that's what they'regoing to have to do. They're
going to do. They're going tohave to come up with some
because I don't think it's a badidea for the suit. I think is
could be seen as frivolous,which I think you might have
thought before he startedplaying these clips, and I get

(01:02:13):
all worked up, yeah, but I thinkthey're going to do, course,
you're going to have to do someabout this. Well, then I think
we need to seriously startthinking about suing some other
podcasts,
come on, we just we don't haveDid you? Here's the problem that
we have. There's zerocompetition with us. There's

(01:02:34):
nobody even trying. We havenobody to sue. We can't license
ourselves. Nobody can't can'tkeep up. It was like the weekend
was yo agenda from seven yearsago. Well, no, the morning
stream did a pretty good job.They did a pretty good job, but
they made the fatal mistake ofdoing it in video so that it
could never get their showstogether on time. By the time

(01:02:55):
everything was edited, it was,it was out of date. Remember
that the morning stream? Yeah, Idon't think that was I think the
closest competition we ever hadwas unfiltered, unfiltered,
yeah, yeah, yeah. And we couldhave sued them for for taking
our vibe, stealing our wewouldn't have done it. No, of
course not. But I will licensebecause we're no agenda. We

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don't we don't think that way.We're not part of what system.
No, we are not thank goodness.
I just thought, but I canunderstand it. I can fully
understand it. Well, it will bebad for Amazon. This comes in
line with people should go trackdown the mark Stein lectures
that were done at HillsdaleCollege. Man, yeah, I saw that.

(01:03:37):
You. Yeah. Tina was playing someof it. This is the against the
climate change guy. Yeah, theclient, Mark Stein did. I'm
pretty good at understandingsome of these libel and slander
issues, but, and I'm not sure Ihad to read the case to see
what's really going on here, butMark Stein's been in court for

(01:04:00):
13 plus years or so, 12 to 14years. I can't remember the
exact number, but years in theDC courts, which are yes, hung
up on eight years. It's beengoing on for a long time.
He made the comment based on thehockey stick. The already

(01:04:21):
debunked, many times debunkedhockey stick graph. Let's just
say, scientifically disproveninstead of debunked. He no. He
said the guy was a fraud,
and so and the guy, the personwho put that hockey stick thing
together, sued him for slanderor libel or some, for some

(01:04:45):
outrageous amount of money,which will be $1 or two. And
it's done, but the and it's beenin court because of the DC court
system. Michael Mann, MichaelMann, Michael Mann is the guy.
Michael Mann, i.
Was Michael Mann, yeah, MichaelMann is the guy who sued him.
Michael Mann is Ben. He's theguy, okay, and so he got his tit

(01:05:10):
in a ringer for just making thiscomment. And this is very
concerning. Well, how aboutthis? How about value? For
value. People are using thateverywhere. I think we should
sue them.
And they're Bitcoiners. So theygot Bitcoin. They got some coin.
You go after the big head. Youusing value for value. Man, you
can't do that.

(01:05:32):
I can hear the gears turning inyour head.
John's like, exit strategy,yeah. I don't think we can do
that.
Okay? You'd have to prove noprior use of the term, which I
don't know if you can do.Probably not. There's a lot of
issues with trying to do that. Imean, I understand what you're

(01:05:53):
saying, but it's not our style.We're not I mean, I of course
not adverse to being litigious,but it's not no necessarily, is
part of this model. Fact i andran might come back from the
dead and sue us. Wouldn't wantto have that, so I
think that's where he got itfrom.
Oh, that would make sense someball way. All right. All right.

(01:06:17):
I gotta do some big pharmastuff, because I got a dynamite
one from Scott Gottlieb. Whodoesn't know Scott? Scott
Gottlieb is our former FDAcommissioner now on the board at
Pfizer. And what's the otherplace?
The other Intel, notintelligentsia,
I don't know. Yeah, that wasjust Pfizer. No, some gene play,

(01:06:39):
some gene morphing place. Okay,so he goes on CNBC and the
Sorkin kid, Andrew, Andrew RossSorkin. He He touches the third
rail, but he does it in such awishy washy way, and essentially
is saying, hey, you know, maybewe shouldn't have these pharma

(01:07:00):
ads on television. I can'tbelieve he broached the topic,
but he did, and Scott Gottliebwas ready for him, just on a
very personal basis. I mean,given your background, your
work, COVID, notice thatpersonal basis has nothing to do
with the CNBC. We love pharmafor a bit.
Wow. That is wishy washy.Personal basis here, even just

(01:07:21):
on a very personal basis. Imean, given your background, you
work, obviously, if I You mean,you have the relation with
Pfizer and Illumina. Illumina,you have the relation the
relation he's on the she's onthe board and directors. He's
essentially running the company.You have a relation with the
Pfizer and Illumina. You couldargue that Joe and I have a

(01:07:41):
relationship with the televisionworld and NBC, which which
collects advertising. Here weare saying, Actually, maybe
there's not a good idea. What doyou what do you actually think
put the laws and everything elseaside? What do you personally
think? Yeah, look, we've lookedat this with data over about 20
years at FDA, because this hasobviously been a controversial

(01:08:03):
issue. So we have commissioned,or we did, when I was there,
commission, multiple studieslooking at what the public
health impact was of advertisingand by and large, what you found
was that, hold on a second stop.
Yeah, this actually wasn't eventhe question, no,
he was beating around the bush.He couldn't bring himself,

(01:08:25):
Sorkin couldn't bring himself toask, actually ask specifically
whether advertising pharma,prescription, pharma, drugs on
TV is a good thing for thepublic policy at all. He never
really asked that. He just kindof beat around the bush. And
this is a good you mentionedthis. This guy was ready for it

(01:08:45):
with the he asked the questionhimself, yes, he actually
stepped in it. He could haveavoided this whole topic. No, he
knew what to say. Is therecommission, multiple studies
looking at what the publichealth impact was? He found was
that advertising seen on TVdrove people who had symptoms
into the doctor's office. Yeah,prompted them to seek help,

(01:09:08):
seeking behavior. And
I have help seeking behavior.Help me seeking behavior. Yeah,
restless leg syndrome. I mean,all the crap that they're
advertising to try to get peopleto buy more drugs, drove him
into the doctor's office. Maybethese people didn't need to go
to the doctor's office. Orhypochondriac well, he actually

(01:09:28):
had he makes, he was ready forthat to John doctor's office,
prompted them to seek help,seeking behavior, and ultimately
got more people diagnosed. Andso the net, net public health
impact was a positive one. Now,I know it's difficult for a lot
of physicians. Patients come inasking for a particular
prescription because of anadvertisement that they saw, and

(01:09:49):
if it's not a goodrecommendation for that
individual patient, it takes alot of time for a physician to
counsel them. Oh, it's actuallyso it's actually bad for the
doctors you see, because peopleshow up saying.
Got restless leg syndrome andanal leakage, and they don't
have that, and the doctor has toexplain, no, no, no, I don't
want to sell this to you on whynot. And doctors are very busy.

(01:10:10):
They don't have a lot of time tohave these kinds of
conversations. And so I knowthere are some frustrations
among providers, from purely aprovider standpoint, in terms of
prompting patients to go in andsee physicians when they have
certain symptoms that might beconsistent with a given
condition. It provides a netpublic health gain. And the
advertising is tightly regulatedin terms of what companies can

(01:10:32):
say, so those messages have tobe crafted towards trying to
promote that help seekingbehavior. So that's why they
always say,
talk to your doctor. It's that'sthat's promoting help seeking
behavior. Now we have the legalterm. We finally know where it
comes from.
Uh, ask your doctor if this isright for you. Yes, yes.

(01:10:56):
And the answer is always goingto be GLP one ozempic, or in
this case, Zep bound. Or now tothat major medical headline, the
new treatment for obstructivesleep apnea. Major medical
headline, the conditionaffecting millions of Americans,
of course. And joining us tobreak it all down is ABC News
medical correspondent, DoctorDarius Sutton, good morning.

(01:11:17):
Talk about this, because we haveset bound. It was already FDA
approved for weight loss. Now,FDA approved for sleep apnea,
it's pretty surprising, right,surprising
and amazing. I have some helpseeking behavior about my sleep
apnea. Can I get some somediabetes medicine to fix that?
Yeah, of course. It's aheadline. The FDA approved for
weight loss now, FDA approvedfor sleep apnea, it's pretty

(01:11:39):
surprising, right? Surprising.It's also the first of its kind.
There is no medication thatexists that has been approved to
treat sleep apnea, and just tohelp everyone understand Sleep
apnea is so much more than justheavy snoring. These are periods
of time when you're notbreathing, without oxygen and
not treated that increases yourrisk of diabetes, heart disease,
dementia. Wait a minute.

(01:12:01):
What if you don't if you don'tsleep? Well, that increase
increases your chances ofdiabetes.
I know it's amazing. I'm not adoctor, but this doesn't sound
right to me.
I thought, I thought you couldkind of get away with it the
other way, like, if you'reobese, then you may have big fat

(01:12:23):
guy, yeah, and you're snoringbecause you got you can't barely
breathe anyway, and you knowyou're laying in bed and you're
making a lot of noise, okay,well, you probably diabetic
already breathing without oxygenand not treated. That increases
your risk of diabetes, heartdisease, dementia, and it's even
be associated, been associatedwith dementia. Hey, what

(01:12:46):
dementia you get? The story andcauses dementia. I'm gonna make
a prediction. Write it to youhave your book, but write it
down in the book.
Write it down. I have a pen. Godeath bound or ozempic will
eventually be a cure forerectile dysfunction. Write it
down in the book, it's cominglifespan now, on Friday, FDA has

(01:13:08):
approved that bound to treatthose with obesity and sleep
apnea. In these studies, up to40% of patients had full
resolution of their symptoms anddiagnosis that could be a cure.
Oh my gosh, so what? Oh my God,for insurance coverage, my God,
oh my gosh. This is amazing. Ohmy gosh. I didn't expect this.
Oh my gosh. So what could thismean for insurance coverage and

(01:13:31):
Medicare? This is an ongoingconversation. Here we talk about
these injectable weight lossmedications that bound save
active ingredient as endurosimilar ozempic insurance
companies,
it is for the treatment ofdiabetes. It's been around for
more than 20 years, but notoften for weight loss. And so
likely, cost is a big factorhere. More than $1,000 a month.

(01:13:51):
More than 40% of Americans areconsidered obese, and also, when
you think about it, federally,Medicare, Medicaid, the Biden
administration has proposed aproposal to cover the treatment
of weight loss, but that what isWait, wait, wait. Post, proposed
a proposal. Yeah, I had the sameHow do you propose a proposal?
Or you propose a proposal piece,and also, when you think about
it, federally, Medicare andMedicaid, the Biden

(01:14:13):
administration has proposed aproposal to cover the treatment
of weight loss, but thatdecision will be pending on the
Trump administration. Cost isstill a big factor here. The
CMS, the Center for MedicaidMedicare services, estimates it
can cost up to $30 billion overa 10 year period. But it's
important to note that the CDCcites obesity related health
conditions cost more than $170

(01:14:33):
billion a year. So there'scertainly a healthy argument for
discussion here. There's ahealthy argument, the argument
benefit analysis, bring Kennedyin. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know
the food industry is, is, Ithink we talked about on the
last show, they're like, oh,Kennedy's coming, man, let's,

(01:14:54):
let's change the labelingpackaged foods in the US must
follow new rules in order tocall themselves.
Healthy the Food and DrugAdministration finalized its new
standards yesterday. Under therule, a healthy food must
contain a certain amount ofingredients from one or more
food groups, such as fruit,vegetables, grains, dairy and
protein. There are also limitsfor added sugars, sodium and

(01:15:15):
saturated fat. Foods That Couldpreviously carry the labels,
such as white bread and heavilysweetened cereals and yogurts no
longer qualify. This is the FDAis first major change in 30
years. The new rule will takeeffect within two months, just
in time. So it has to havehealthy ingredients, has to have
some carrots, got to have someother things in there. This is

(01:15:39):
not going to work if Kennedygets, gets in, gets confirmed,
which is, I guess, questionable.
Well,
I've said it before, all Trumphas to do is threaten an
executive order against the drugcompanies about advertising on
television, yeah, and say we'regoing to just end it.

(01:16:00):
You're this advertising ontelevision, and, you know, for
prescription drugs on any mediaother than, you know, medical
journals is, is done? Yeah,they'll knuckle under and
they'll push Kennedy in. Okay,we can. We'll deal with Kennedy
later. We don't need thisaggravation. We'll deal with
candidate Kennedy the way wealways deal with the Kennedys.

(01:16:21):
That could be hope not. I hopenot. Meanwhile, they are coming
for your pets. We've beenwaiting for it, and it's finally
here. How you can keep your petssafe. So for one thing, you
don't want to feed them eithertable scraps or any food that's
got raw milk products,
dairy products, hold on asecond. I can stop.

(01:16:43):
So Mimi had this book that shewas working on, besides the egg
book, yeah. And this is a bookthat's actually done, and I keep
thinking we should just put ittogether and sell it. It was
called Making your own dog food.Oh, that's a good and it was
based on the thesis, and I thinkit's a good one, because we've
had dogs, long lived dogs. Yeah,they eat two of us, but I had my

(01:17:03):
Spitz little American Eskimothat I had went for about 1617,
years before he died. It was along lived dog, and I basically
only fed that dog scraps. Yeah,that's what they're bred for, is
what they're meant for. And dogswere bred to eat human garbage
because they were outside, theoutside the little compounds

(01:17:25):
that human, early humans,humanoids used to live in these,
you know, these villages, andthey had all their garbage
outside. They threw it awaysomewhere, and the dogs would
come around, and they madefriends with us because they got
to eat our leftover food. So theidea is that, if you and Mimi
still makes a pot of leftovercrap for the dogs and so, and

(01:17:48):
the dogs live forever, and sonow they're trying to but they
do. You know, this is not goodfor the pet food companies. They
like to make kibble, and hispoor dogs eat this crap. Hold
on, so, and they don't live verylong. This is really about bird
flu. This whole report is aboutbird flu. That's why don't give
your Well, I just okay. I gotthat in anyway. Yeah. But the
point is, is that this isalready bull crap, or any food

(01:18:12):
that's got raw milk products.What
was that all about? Why does shethink that's so funny,
weird food that's got raw milkproducts,
you know, any kind of dairyproducts that you might be
coming, you know, gettingfrozen. If you're giving them
table scraps and it's poultry,make sure the poultry is very

(01:18:33):
well cooked. You want to keepyour pets safe inside. But I'll
tell you the bad news in a lotof cats around the world that
have developed the bird flu. Alot of them have been indoor
cats, and what they're startingto see is that there could be
infected birds that are part ofthe, you know, the composition
of the cat food. Now it's not somuch about what? Oh, yes, the

(01:18:57):
composition of the cat food. Sothey're making cat food out of
dead birds. When does thishappen? What? Oh, there's a dead
crow. Let's throw them into catfood. So the other thing you
want to do is, if you're hikingwith a dog, for example, and
they're in, you know, in thewild, and they're touching
animal feces, they're walkingin, you're walking in feces and

(01:19:17):
stuff, keep those shoes out. Andif you're in a shelter, make
sure you have PPP on if you'rehandling birds. And, you know,
the usual stuff, a lot of COVID.Everything that we learned with
COVID 19, we should revisit theCOVID. I think what's so
confusing about this one isit's, you know, it's birds, but
then it's also dairy, and thenit's also the food that you buy

(01:19:39):
that might be infected. I knowit's there. It's worse than
that. The way this throughsecretions. It spreads through
feces. It spreads through whatwe call Fauci transfer. So if
you have the infection on yourfeet, you get into your car, and
then someone else gets in thecar that you're starting to
transfer the virus, you'regetting splashed molding.

(01:20:00):
You get in the car, you rub yourface on the mat. You could get
it getting a break, ladies, isgood machinery. But here's the
thing, birds,
Hey, Bill that punch pressuregot wear gloves this. Wear a
mask. They've, they've goneinsane. They really have,

(01:20:21):
they have nothing machinery. Ohyeah, we just have to psyop
everybody. Every single minuteof the day. There's no disaster.
We can't scare you. Let's scareyou with your cat virus. You're
getting splashed with raw milk.You're getting you're touching
machinery. Oh no. But here's thething, birds, so much raw milk
is out there. They make it soundas though there's a plague of
raw you have to go out of yourway to get raw milk. I don't

(01:20:44):
care where you live. And thenshe splashed me with raw milk.
Oh, no, that's for the virusyou're getting. Splashed with
raw milk. You're getting you'retouching machinery. But here's
the thing, birds fly splashingyou with raw you know, now there
are some women when they'rebreastfeeding, yeah, a squirt.
They like to squirt their men,just as a joke. That's

(01:21:07):
hilarious. So, and that's rawmilk. That's right, don't give
me birds. You're gonna give methe bird flu. Okay, so you have
migratory birds dropping fecesin zoos, zoo animals and
endangered species, cats,tigers, things like that, are
coming down with it, becausethis is one of those diseases
that can travel the globe very,very quickly. And so while right

(01:21:32):
now human, cat to human isthere's that one case, but we
don't know what othercomorbidities, you know, they
may also always starts with onethis, this disease is probably
one mutation away from becoming,oh, yeah, zoonotic, yeah. It is
one mutation away, in a way.This is the key phrase, one

(01:21:53):
mutation away, yeah. Now, whatwas it? Where did this crappy
report come from? That was.
CBS,
Oh, brother, yeah. CBS, well,let's go to como up in Seattle.
Como four drone shows emptyanimal enclosures at this Wild

(01:22:15):
Cat Sanctuary in Shelton. Thewild Phillip Advocacy Center
announced more than half of itsbig cats, as of this month, have
been infected with bird flu.It's been one big nightmare,
really. I mean, never thoughtsomething like this would happen
to us, maybe only in a facilitythat had cats near each other,
and ours are spread out overfive acres. The tragedy has

(01:22:38):
deeply affected the sanctuaryworkers who are grieving the
loss of 20 animals that werepart of worldwide Wildcat
conservation efforts. Theyinclude a tiger, cougars, links
is bobcats and other big cats.The viral infection carried by
wild birds can spread throughbird to bird contact and can
impact other mammals that eatbirds or bird droppings. We're

(01:23:00):
told cats are very vulnerable,and symptoms happen fast, often
killing the animals within daysfrom conditions like pneumonia.
So tigers are dying from birdflu. Well, pneumonia,
technically, right? And how doesthat work? Because it's birds
having sex with birds. They'regetting bird flu, they're coming

(01:23:21):
into contact with each other.This whole I'm, I'm very
skeptical about these reportsand zoos. Zoos are on high
alert. Zoos across the countrygo about the fact that they
dropped, well on a second there.I'm Skip skeptical about the
fact that they dropped apneumonia bomb in there. Yeah,
pneumonia is contagious, youknow, hmm, especially the

(01:23:43):
walking pneumonia.
Someone got me the song youbecause you said that on the
last show, Johnny river rockingpneumonia and the boogie woogie
flu.
Here we go.
Now.

(01:24:06):
Here we go,
rocking pneumonia and the boogiewoogie
blue. There you go. Beautiful.It exists. Back to the zoos.
High Alert. Zoos across thecountry on high alert. In
Phoenix, five zoo animals havedied after contracting avian
influenza, including a cheetah,a mountain lion and a cucumber.
Another zoo in Seattle losing arare red breasted goose to the

(01:24:30):
virus. Members across the nationare all taking precautionary
measures to make sure theirpopulations are safe and secure.
Experts say this strain of thevirus is unusually deadly to
mammals. Okay, so now it's a newstrain. It's not just it's still
h5 and one, but it's a newstrain that

(01:24:51):
yeah,
the mammals, yeah, yes, calledavian flu, the range of mammals
that it's infected has to six.
Ended the level of concern,really, because it looks like
many more species arepotentially infectable at
the Los Angeles Zoo, where therehave been no cases of bird flu,

(01:25:13):
Chief veterinarian Dr DominiqueKeller is tracking the virus
closely and doing everything shecan to protect the animals under
her care.
Animals can get the virus fromthe droppings of an infected
bird or by eating infectedpoultry or other food. The zoo
now implementing safety measuresto minimize exposure, including
foot baths for shoes, so that'spart of the protocol and

(01:25:34):
stricter food protocol,
but the greatest risk comes fromabove. The hardest thing for
zoos to control for is that alot of enclosures like this one
are open, so wild birds caneasily fly over or land in them,
and if one of those birds isinfected, then those animals are
exposed. The USDA has trackedthe virus in more than 10,000
wild birds across the US you'renever going to have zero risk,

(01:25:57):
so we accept that. That's partof being a veterinarian. Some
animals getting additionalprotection, like the zoo's
breeding population ofcritically endangered California
condors, some of the few birdsto get a bird flu vaccine. The
zoo has many species ofendangered birds, all of whom
appreciate the extra care.
So to come back around to whatyou said originally, yes, the

(01:26:18):
pet food the first human case ofbird flu in Los Angeles County
is prompting a new warning. Petowners are being told not to
give their animals certain rawfoods. Bird Flu samples were
found in certain Northwestnaturals, pet food products. The
food was recalled after a petcat in Portland, Oregon died
after consuming it. A warninglast week cautioned against

(01:26:39):
giving cats raw milk. That bookMimi's doing is going to be
banned. Amazon will take itright off. You can't be making
your own pet food. I'm remindedof the company that Jay used to
work for, which was a raw petfood company in Oakland. It had
since moved someplace else, but
her job. Her job was grinding uprabbits, nice and ducks

(01:27:08):
and other animals to make thisraw food that was extremely
popular, especially with theupper set in places like
Piedmont, who'd only feed theircats this stuff. Yeah, and it
was considered the best. Youknow, there's just, I'm sure the
animals loved eating it too. Hasbeen delicious to a cat. But
this may be part of a scheme tokind of put the clamp, because

(01:27:32):
there's, if you haven't noticed,on television, there's two, or
at least two companies now, thenthey have these kind of mocking
commercials about the guy who'sgot some sort of raw food, dog
food in his refrigerator. Andhis friend says, What are you
putting dog food in therefrigerator for? And then a guy
gets thrown out, and the guy'sthere with this dog, and they're
feeding the dog this stuff. Andso there's been a big movement

(01:27:55):
to making these very high enddog foods. This could be the
kibble industries could be plotit could be or I never surprised
by these types of marketingtricks. It wouldn't surprise me
either. Or maybe one of thoseHaitians who's eating the geese,

(01:28:16):
eating the dogs, eating thepets, get gets bird flu and then
starts spreading it andspreading it amongst the Haitian
population.
It's coming. Look, Hotep,already told us. Hotep, done.
Told you, Hotez, he said,January test. January 21 january
21 who test is when it'shappening. It's all in Texas.

(01:28:38):
Oh, no, he's in Dallas.
It's all going down. I, youknow, literally defended Austin
there. Well, she's too close forcomfort.
I know. What am I doing? Ofcourse. Austin, yes,
yeah, people here. Where do youlive? Fredericksburg. Where's
that new? Oh, Austin. Oh,Austin. Yeah, that's great.

(01:28:59):
Austin. Hill Country is a goodterm. Everyone knows what that
means. Well, yeah, that's thebest part of Texas. It is. It's
considered, if you talk, oh HillCountry, oh Hill Country. Oh
yeah, there's actually a hillthere. We've got a big hill.
Yes,
all right, what you got? You gotanything? You've got something
fun here. Got me relaxed herewith these break. I know, I

(01:29:22):
know. I'm I'm doing all thework. You're on a roll. Doing
all the work. You can do acouple ask Adams here. That
would be kind of fun. I thinkthat's a dynamite idea. I
actually have two differentones. Oh, the first one, since
we were talking about bird flu.This is, you don't play the
clip. This is just the answer tothe question I'm going to ask

(01:29:42):
you all right,
what is the national bird of theUnited States? Well, I know the
answer to this because we talkedabout this a few weeks ago, and
you I would have instinctivelysaid the bald eagle, but that
only just recently got signedinto law. Well.
Ah, you knew the answer to thisone. I knew the Yes. I knew the

(01:30:03):
answer to this one well, becauseI was under the impression that
the bald eagle was the nationalbird. But I guess it was never
the national bird. The bald wenever had a national bird. The
bald eagle is now officially thenational bird of the United
States. This after PresidentBiden signed some 50 bills into
law, including one that amendsUS Code to give the bald eagle

(01:30:27):
that special status. Congressadopted the design of the Great
Seal with the bald eagle frontand center in 1782 but the bird
hadn't been legislativelydesignated as the national bird.
The bill was spearheaded byMinnesota lawmakers, which is
fitting, since the state has thesecond highest number of bald
eagles after Alaska. All right,so I have asked John as a follow

(01:30:50):
up ask question, What didBenjamin Franklin suggest to be
our national bird before hesuggested the bald eagle the
turkey Correct?
Well, that was disappointing.He's all over the place. Is the
reason disappointing? You knewthat one. All right, let's do
the next Adam. All right. Allright. All right. Okay, so

(01:31:13):
here's another one. This is agood one. This is politifex Lie
of the year. Uh huh. Youprobably know the answer this,
no, let's go. I don't I don'tknow. Okay. Well, this go the
this is the clip one isintroduces the lie of the year
question. It's safe to say the2024, campaign cycle was unlike
any in modern American history.The team at the fact checking

(01:31:35):
organization PolitiFactinvestigated hundreds of claims
made this year by politicalfigures to separate fact from
fiction, as Ali Rogin reportsone comment stood out as
politifacts 2024,
lie of the year. All right, do Iplay the jingle? Here is this
where I get to play the jingle?You can play a jingle.

(01:31:58):
Will he know?
Will he won't? I don't know, but
here we go. Now. Oh, I go. No,wait, if I was gonna answer
this, if I was trying to
psych this question out, I wouldlie of the year for last year,
especially during the election,I would, I would say, like
blood. Remember the bloodbath?There's gonna be a bloodbath.

(01:32:21):
That's a that's a whopper. Notroops in combat zones. Another
good one, yeah. Harrison Hitler,
that's a lie. Hitler. Hitler,there's a good one. Fascist
threat, the democracy the end ofvoting. Yes, yes. How about the
grid? The grid is going down.Oh, the grids go Oh, yeah. Oh,

(01:32:41):
that's a great lie of the year.Yeah. So what's your guess?
My guess is
Joe Biden is as sharp as attack.
That would be the top to me. JoeBiden being sharp as attack is
the lie of the year. Here it is.Here's the lie of the year.
Okay, they're eating the dogs,the people that came in, they're

(01:33:05):
eating the kids. They're eatingthey're eating the pets of the
people that live there. Wow,this is what's happening in our
country, and it's a shame that'sthat was the lie of the year.
Wow, that's not a lie. They'reeating the dollars. Let's listen
to their explanation, and I havea commentary to give you about

(01:33:26):
the history of politifacts, bullcrap, lies of the year. Those
untrue comments set off afirestorm on the campaign trail
and had a profound impact on theresidents of Springfield, Ohio.
Now it's been named lie of theyear. Katie Sanders is the
editor in chief of Politifact,and joins me now, Katie, thank
you so much for being here.First of all, is there any

(01:33:48):
kernel of truth to this? Andalso, how does PolitiFact
determine whether something isan outright and deliberate lie
versus other types of untruths.When Trump and Senator JD Vance
were asked about this lie, andthey were asked to defend it, as

(01:34:08):
so many officials andjournalists were saying there
was no evidence to support it,they kept talking about reports
they heard from television inTrump's case or from
constituents in the Ohiosenators case, and they
basically said that is enoughfor us to make this claim. It's
enough of a basis, but peoplemake reports to police and other

(01:34:29):
agencies all the time, and thatjust prompts an investigation.
That doesn't mean that somethingactually happened, and Trump and
Vance were circulatingscreenshots of allegations and
police calls that were aboutgeese, not people's pets, that
were later taken back by thepeople who made them, who told

(01:34:49):
journalists they regretted it.JD Vance even acknowledged that
these reports he was hearingfrom his constituents might turn
out to be false, but when theydid, when they turned out to be
empty, he just kept the.
Ending the lie anyway, saying hecould do that to bring attention
to Springfield's immigrationexperience.

(01:35:09):
Yeah, yeah. Blah, blah, okay, solet's look at the lies of the
Year from these guys. Theystarted doing this in 2009 and
their first lie this, the liesof the Year from PolitiFact are
always something to do withRepublicans. Always a
Republican. Always there's nothere's Joe Biden. Sharpest
attack. This is the best JoeBiden, blah, blah, but no, no,

(01:35:30):
no, he has to be Republic, thefirst one in 2009 the first lie
of the Year from PolitiFact wasSarah Palin's saying death
penalty, right? Oh, goodness,yes, got it. And by the way,
death panels became what theyare, which is death panels. They
still do them. Yeah, we havethem everywhere now every year.
So then you get country. So thenthere was just a lull of various

(01:35:52):
weird lies. And then we get soonas Trump shows up, 2015,
lie of the year, Trump'scampaign misstatements. Wait,
wait, the lie of the year is aspecific is a lie, not a a bunch
of misstatements put into a bagand called lie of the year.
Okay, well, that's okay. Let'slet that slide. 2016 Trump again

(01:36:17):
for saying the term using theterm fake news, that's a lie.
That's a lie. Wow. That shouldbe worth term of the year. Is
what it should be, 2017
Trump again, Russian electioninterference is a made up story.
No, it wasn't made up, eventhough it was made up, yeah, but

(01:36:39):
that's, Trump's lie of the year.We can go up to 2019 Trump's
claim that whistleblowers gotUkraine call almost completely
wrong.
What? I don't even know whatthat means. It was a perfect
goes on. I mean, I could justone year after one couple more,
yeah, uh, let's go to 2021.

(01:36:59):
Lies about January 6. You know,wasn't an insurrection I tried
to have. You know all thisTrump's Trump, Trump, Trump, and
we finally switches over toKennedy in 2023 out of the blue
vaccine. Vax, once Kennedybecomes a Republican, they
wouldn't Kennedy's been sayingthe same stuff for 20 years, but

(01:37:21):
now he's a republican lie of theyear. Can say Robert Kennedy's
campaign of conspiracy theoriesis the the lie of the year.
Again, it's not a single thing.It's a bunch of things. So this
political fact thing that thefact that he even got, again,
another example of NPRuselessness. This is just a

(01:37:42):
propaganda tool. That's great. Ilove that. I think, I still
think mine was better sharp asattack, because everybody could
get in on that one. Sharp asattack, that's the best one.
Yes, that would be the lie ofthe year. Yes, you should have,
that should have been it. We youknow, it's just we're so lazy,

(01:38:03):
but we should do stuff likethis. I mean, so here we are.
Everyone's doing lie of theyear. They write it in November.
Oh, let's do live the year. Sowe could take off for Christmas.
Now, we got bird flu. We're justdoing a show for you and and
pulling this nonsense apart, butwe should be doing this stuff.
We need to do the award show. Itold you this years ago, that we

(01:38:25):
should do the Podcast Awards andsome other award shows. It's so
dumb. They have the podcast Hallof Fame. Oh, Adam, would you
please come to Miami in Januaryand and be the host, the emcee
of the podcast, Hall of Fame?I'm like, No, not gonna do that.
But how does it even make you doit for five grand or 10 grand?

(01:38:46):
No, I wouldn't do it for anygrand. No, you wouldn't do it
for any grand. No, no, no,because it makes no sense. The
podcast, how many people wereinvolved in early podcasting?
How this has been going on for20 years? They've been doing a
Hall of Fame.
By the way, it's only Americans.There's never any other people
in it.

(01:39:06):
It does, it doesn't make anysense. Podcast Hall of Fame.
No, then we can get you a ticketto the to the pod fest. They
weren't even going to pay forthe pod fest. They weren't even
gonna pay for my flight.
But that wasn't the criteria.I'm just like, No, I don't want

(01:39:27):
to do that. They weren't gonnapay for your flight. No, give
you a ticket to the pod Fest incase you didn't, in case you
missed it. There's no money inpodcasting anymore. It's all
dried up, all the
a lot of it is dried up. Yeah?What comes and goes. It's a
cycle, yeah, oh, it'll comeback, it'll come back, and it'll
always be some some new format,and some content, you know, some

(01:39:49):
like, what was the one that wastriggered the real serious true
crime, serial, serial, yeah,serial, one shot. It's a one
shot. Is a one, yeah? It waslike, one hit.
Wonder it was. It came at theperfect moment everybody was
binging, Breaking Bad onNetflix, like, Oh, this is
great. I can binge remember thatbinge or binge was binge, binge

(01:40:11):
watching. It was the word of theyear, I'm sure, binge watching.
And then all sudden, along comesaudio only, mystery, true crime,
and you couldn't binge listenit. You had to wait until the
next episode The next week, andpeople liked it. They were
standing around at the watercooler talking, oh, what? What
do you think? Did you Did he doit? Is it true?

(01:40:31):
And by the way, this alsocompletely discredits the whole
you've got to have video foryour podcast to be successful.
That's nonsense. Not a singleTrue Crime podcast does video,
it's all audio. People like it'sthe number one category for and
women especially, they love it,morbid creatures that they are.

(01:40:52):
They like true crime. Maybe weshould do two crime, True Crime
podcast. He's too much work.
Anyway, I wanted to play this,this interview. Before you play
it, I do have a short shorty, anine second clip. Oh, okay,
because this is another this PBSand this is bull crap. This is

(01:41:14):
the clip that is Chris maca.
Oh,
Chris Micah and for the firsttime in almost 20 years,
Christmas and the first night ofHanukkah fall on the same day.
Some have given it the nicknameChris Micah. No, they haven't.
I've never heard anybody saythis wasn't that didn't Adam

(01:41:37):
Sandler do that in a song?Maybe. I mean, that's possible,
but nobody says Chris Micah,nobody.
Let me see this. It has aWikipedia PBS giving us this
bull crap. Now it has, it has ait has a Wikipedia entry,
yeah, let me see when this startwith Chris MC, by the way,

(01:41:58):
because someone sent us an emailabout it. I looked up the form
990 for Wikimedia, the peoplebehind Wikipedia. Oh, yeah.
People are all adamant aboutwhat's going on there with their
dei stuff. Do you know how muchmoney they they raked in in 20,
2310s of millions. Try again.
Hundreds of millions. $245

(01:42:21):
million
yeah. And most of it goes tohating Whitey, yeah, this is a
slush fund. This is a hate thereare hate group, so slush it's a
hate group. It's really, it's,it's a slush fund for other
stuff, and they send it all overthe world. Yeah, it's not. They
don't even use it for their ownservers. They should, like, you
know, this reminds me of thecollapse of some sir, almost the

(01:42:43):
collapse of certain podcasts.Who I'm gonna, you know, they
asked for money, value for ourvalue for value. Money goes to
to the podcast. It pays thebills. We don't take a chunk of
money that people donate to usand then give it to somebody
else. We don't do that. No, Godno. It's like, if you want to
give it to them, go give it tothem. Why you? What would you

(01:43:04):
give it to us? To give it tothem? Yeah, that's not right,
no. And so this happened withthe Adam Carollo, when he was
asking for money for something.Oh, there was the podcast patent
suit. Yeah, the podcast patentsuit, yeah. So, so podcasts that
were collecting money for theirpodcast and then giving it to
him, yeah, well, this is whatWikipedia is doing. Why are they

(01:43:27):
taking this money instead ofjust building up their site,
making things better? Well,trust editors giving it to
other. Trust me. This is notcoming from people sending in
their $35 to Wikipedia. This isintelligence money.
Wikipedia can't be trusted. Thisis the primary, this is, no,

(01:43:49):
they can't this is the primaryingest method for for anyone
fact checking or any AI that isslurping up the internet. No,
this is, this is intelligenceoperation, $245 million I think
not.
I mean seriously, well,
there's definitely Intel moneyinvolved. Now with that, I'd

(01:44:11):
like to thank you for yourcourage. Say in the morning to
you, the man who put the C in,Chris MCCA, say hello to my
friend on the other end, the oneand only, Mr. John. C'mon.
Yeah.
Well, in the morning, curry,also in the morning, those ships
see boots on the ground, feet inthe air, subs in the motor all
the names of nights out there inthe morning,

(01:44:35):
oh, we're down. Trolls down.1726,
wow. I was predicting 1600 Ithought it would be around 1500
honestly, but I'm surprised. I'min you know what? These trolls
who are here, we appreciateevery single one. There's still
a lot of trolls listening.That's amazing. It's amazing
anybody listens to us.
You think about it, well, thereis that aspect. Amazing anybody

(01:44:59):
listeners?
So damned entertaining. Yeah,well, we do keep getting emails
of people saying, you know, Ijust feel good after listening
to your show. I hope so I getthe news and then you make me
laugh about it. Yeah, that'swhat we do. We're a comedy show.
Look us up under the comedyheading on Apple podcast.
So these trolls are trollroom.iothat's where they you can listen

(01:45:22):
in. You can join the troll roomfrom there. Or you can get a
modern podcast app, please. It'spodcast apps with an s.com and
there you can find pod verse,fountain curio caster, cast O
Matic,
podcast guru, a whole bunch ofthem, all with modern features,
including those wonderfulchapters that Dr Scott does for

(01:45:44):
us. He does that with theartwork that we get from our
artists, which I'll just gostraight to that because
we have no agenda. Artgenerator.com, part of our value
for value don't steal it. We'regonna sue you for our vibe, our
value for value proposition,which is, we work for you. We
provide this as a service, a webelieve it's a valuable service.

(01:46:06):
We just ask you to sendsomething back in return. People
do all kinds of things for us.We love it when you send us
money so we can pay the bills,as John justice just discussed.
But we also take time and talentas treasure being the third one
and the artists, which now seemto be pretty much prompt
jockeys, but they're out there.
Yeah? Well, yeah, this is whatit is, I guess, for now. I mean,

(01:46:28):
eventually we'll get back toreal art. Real art will never go
away. I doubt it. Yeah, what youdon't think, you think is going
to be AI for the rest of ourlives. We're less it'll be just,
it'd be as when we when it firststarted off, when it was like
90% real art and 10% AI, it'sjust flipped. It'll be 90% AI

(01:46:51):
and 10% real art. It won't,you're right, it won't
completely disappear. It's kindof sad to think about it.
Well, they upload to no agendaArt generator.com
which is still a very valuableservice. Sir Park Latour, put
that together for us years andyears and years and years ago,
and we still use it
twice a week. And this is whereany artist and even prompt

(01:47:14):
jockeys can upload their art,and we gladly use that as the
album art for our show. We useit for promoting the program. It
looks good in the podcast apps.And we always like to thank the
artists who brought that for us.And I think this was a new
artist, Susanna Leah, did theartwork. Always looking for
something traditional, whichSusannah Leah understood very

(01:47:35):
well. She gave us a MerryChristmas, no agenda. Tree in
the background looked like theballoons, balloons and candies.
I guess there were a number ofdifferent Christmas pieces, of
course. John, immediately, was Ilike the cheesecake? Yeah, the
cheesecake one is really good.But no, then you wanted just the
tip by Francisco Scaramanga,which you thought it was cute.

(01:47:58):
The girl is biting the snowmancarrot nose. Yeah? Okay, John,
like we didn't, we didn't knowwhat that was. All about missing
it, yeah. And by the way, Ishould mention that I did use
that for the newsletter. It's avery for a scaramonger, because
Cara manga normally uses, itdoes stuff that has got more
dimensionality. It's notcartoony, like this piece is. I

(01:48:20):
just thought this piece wasextremely well executed by the
AI deliver whatever he's doingthere. Yeah, yeah. Well, we knew
exactly what was beinginsinuated there, and I'd Nix
that. I'll have none of that.Well, I used it anyway, yeah,
well, you can use it on yournewsletter. That's fine.
You mixed it because you're aprude. You saw into it things
that didn't exist. It is acarrot. It existed

(01:48:44):
was unnecessary.
Let's see. We had a coupleGrinches, we had Santa slays. We
had what else did we have here?We had and it was nice. There
were other Merry Christmas bits,but a lot of them from Scara
manga, with bits and boobs alot, and Darren, Darren O'Neill.

(01:49:06):
It's like Darren's and ScaraMangus. Those two girls in the
Santa outfits with the with thelegs, yeah, it looks like
they're using the same software.Oh, those two pieces, Merry
Christmas by O'Neal andcheesecake for whatever. There's
this basically the same piece,yeah, but

(01:49:29):
it's like we're already two oldwhite guys. I mean, do we really
have to ham it up like that?
This, those guys are, like,
deteriorating in their,
yeah, in their, in theirlasciviousness, that way,
lasciviousness, there you got,yeah, we were in the hotel room,
and Christina and Kevin, her herfiance, were coming by to

(01:49:51):
celebrate Christmas dinner withus. And so I tried to find on
YouTube. I was like, how aboutjust some nice, you know, like,
I want the you log, only want aChristmas.
Scene, and YouTube is filledwith videos that are Christmas
scenes, but it's all AI, and yougot people jerking around, and
it's so obviously AI, you can'teven get a normal, like

(01:50:14):
Christmas scene, like you usedto be able just get to
Rockefeller Plaza. You know, youcould see people skating on
Rockefeller Plaza. You can't getthat anymore. No, it's all AI
swap.
I feel like culture is goingdown the drain.
I really do.
Oh, yeah, what can I say? Acouple of weeks in Europe, and

(01:50:35):
next thing you know, you'veturned into I know I got to get
back to Texas quick, wherethings are positive, Texas,
where the conspiracies arethriving, back to the hill
country. Thank you all verymuch, artists. We appreciate you
very much for for doing this.It's always fun for us after
we've done a show, then sit downand look at the art and laugh.
We do laugh. We laugh a lot ofstuff that's just inappropriate.

(01:50:57):
It's really for us. It's humorfor us after the show. So it's
great, and we love having goodart
to use for our show to promoteit. It really does help.
Of course, we always want tothank everybody who supports the
show financially. We mentioneverybody with their name and
their amount over $50 we taketime out here to thank our

(01:51:18):
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Interesting number from badBrad, Bruce, Kansas City,
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(01:52:02):
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Let me make sure I get that justfor so I guess it's going to be
Katrina, Bruce.
I'm just presuming.
Well, are you doing that, I'llgo on with Charles Mayfield,

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You've been deduced. That's howit works. You can donate $5 if

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Uh, Horowitz and I werereviewing year end performance

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The ROI will be immeasurable.
Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah.JD and Elkhorn. Nebraska, no
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(01:59:39):
Thank you boys. Merry Christmasand Happy New Year. Oh, by the
way, Steve is a douche bag.
Jingle, they're eating the dogs.They're eating the cats. They're
eating the people's pets.Timothy Wilkinson, you got it in
Springfield, they're eating thedogs, the people that came in,
they're eating the cats. They'reeating they're eating the pets.

(02:00:00):
Of the people that live there,
I love that. Everyone in Europeknows this. They all love it.
It's so good. Well, when wefirst heard it, you had to fall
in love with it, because thedebate was not going that well.
And she was snickering andsnickering, and she's looking at

(02:00:20):
him, and she's making faces, andshe's got her hand to her face,
and she's she's doing a greatjob of
scene stealing during thedebate. Got the big smile on her
face and everything, yep, yep.And he's just looking for
something to say to get somesome attention to himself. And
he drops this bomb out of theblue and and it just goes to

(02:00:41):
show that in this day and age,that's what works. But not.
There's no one out there talkingabout the coconut tree. You
know, there's no memes. Andactually, I would say that the
way this got around the most isthere were one or two, possibly
YouTube videos where guys werehad sampled this. They're eating
the dogs. And I did whole songsabout it. Everyone saw those

(02:01:04):
songs.
Yeah, it was, it was just, itwas, it was something to behold,
and it still works. He alwaysgets the last always. Linda Lou
packing, meanwhile, is lookingfor some jobs karma she wants.
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Let me see there were a coupleother things that we needed to
talk about. Let's get theseChina clips out of the way. You
got some China clips, all right?I like China. I have a couple

(02:03:37):
China minerals. China'sdominance over the supply of
critical minerals in thespotlight today, the select
committee on the ChineseCommunist Party details their
findings and proposed solutions,and today's Melina Weiss cup was
at that meeting on Capitol Hill.She brings us the latest and
they listed their findings afterinvestigating the ways in which
the US is dependent on theChinese Communist Party for

(02:03:58):
critical minerals. Why is thisimportant? Because those
critical minerals are used toproduce key elements such as
semiconductors, anything frombasic consumer goods all the way
up to advanced militarytechnology. So it's a real
problem, the fact that theChinese Communist Party has
dominance over those minerals.So what they lawmakers did is
they tried to find ways in theUS that we can streamline the
production and processing heremine for those minerals and try

(02:04:21):
to loosen up some of thedominance the Chinese Communist
Party has over them. They'realso today introducing three
pieces of bipartisan legislationthat is Republicans and
Democrats coming together to tryto find solutions in this area,
to help us be more independentin the critical minerals arena.
I spoke to the Chairman JohnMolinar about their efforts
here. Why is it crucial toaddress this issue? Here's what

(02:04:42):
he told me, as well as one ofthe Democrats that's also on
this committee, listen, what doyou think is the most crucial
step that will have the mostbeneficial outcome? You know, I
think the area of allowing theDepartment of Interior the
Secretary to do an analysis ofwhat friendly nation.
We can work with who already aremining, who already are

(02:05:03):
processing, and identifying howwe can immediately lessen our
dependence. To me, that's a verygood first step, and then we
need to build the strongerinfrastructure of doing things
here.
Okay, this morning, by the way,there was a report they're going
after Apple
the Republic of Congo, or theDemocratic Republic of Congo, or

(02:05:26):
the Congo for slave labor, slavelabor, children. Well, it seems
as if the Rwandans are goinginto the Congo and stealing
minerals, which are then used inthe Apple iPhone. Even though
this is a stretch, it's China.They don't even mention China,
because China is the one thatmakes the Apple iPhone. It's,

(02:05:46):
they're not making it in, youknow, here in Milpitas.
Well, it's assembled in the USA.
We're not using the mineralshere. The minerals aren't going
here, no. So there's somethingsketchy about this. There's
trying to gouge the apple. Ithink they're just putting it
well, you know, Apple is on deckto be gouged. Apple is we think,

(02:06:10):
yeah, yeah. I think they've beengouging their customers for
years. So there you have that.Yeah, but they're on deck to be
usurped by someone. Somehow,something's gonna happen. They
have not had, how I'm gonna usethe phrase a moon shot since
Steve Jobs died. You know,that's the stupid Apple vision
Pro, which I like the idea ofspatial computing. But no, they

(02:06:32):
don't really have anything. It'sjust because they're, they're
Apple intelligence. They canmake emojis. Man, I tell you,
every single one of themillennials, so these are all
between 25 and 28 years old atthe Christmas Shindig. They love
my flip phone. They're like,this is cool. I want this. They
all wanted that flip phone.

(02:06:55):
And I'm not sure why exactly
did you ask? Yeah. I said, Whyexactly? And I said, Well, it's
different. And everybody, youknow, they all, I will say, they
all have set limits on they'veremoved tick tock. They've all
removed tick tock. It's like,no, no, I had to, I had to get

(02:07:15):
stuff done. I had to remove ticktock. I was addicted to tick
tock. They say that hands down.And so you can put limits. I,
I'm, I don't know if it's onAndroid, but you can, on the
Apple iPhone, you can put a,like a two hours per day limit,
and then after the two hours up,you can't use two hours of
Tiktok. No. Instagram.

(02:07:36):
Oh, even worse. Yeah,
yeah. I'll play part two of thisclips. Now there are several
issues at hand here, but one ofthe main issues that we heard
from all of the lawmakers is theissue of processing. So in a
sense, what happens is that whenwe do have those minerals, we
send them to China for theprocessing and then buy them
back. So we're essentiallylosing money to be able to have
that processing done in China,and at the same time giving the

(02:07:59):
Chinese Communist Party morecontrol over those critical
minerals. Now, the chairman alsolisted how dependent we are, so
I'll just give you a couple ofexamples here. So the Chinese
Communist Party processes 95% ofthe world's manganese, 73% of
its cobalt, 70% of the graphite,and 3% of global nickel. So you
can see how much of a hand theChinese Communist Party really

(02:08:20):
has over those key minerals. OneCongressman that I spoke to had
very interesting ideas. He gavean example of lithium and the
innovation that could be used inorder to make lithium obsolete,
in a sense, so that we couldchange the game, change the way
things are working, so that allof the money and research that
the Chinese Communist Party hasput into those minerals could be

(02:08:40):
pointless, and then we couldreally have the upper hand.
Listen what this Congressman hadto say. Maybe, maybe lithium
becomes obsolete. It's notneeded because of any material
that can actually do it betterthan lithium. And then what
you've done is you've changedthe paradigm so they stifle it
here, where we do it muchcleaner. And so what happens?
The capacity is shipped overoverseas, to to China, where

(02:09:03):
they don't really care about theenvironment. I mean, all you got
to do is go to China. I wasthere about seven years ago. I
didn't see the sun for 10 days.Why? Because all the pollution.
No. Brother, hmm, yeah, youknow, then get rid of the
lithium and use somethingdifferent. Yeah. I mean, come
on, what are you gonna use?

(02:09:24):
They finally, I think they'retrying to pass bills now to
outlaw, you know, unapproved ornon certified lithium ion
batteries, particularly onesusing E bikes, etc, no, because,
you know, New York is like, thisstuff is burning down buildings,
yeah. Well, these things aredangerous. They just Yeah, stop.

(02:09:44):
You know, publishing, what aboutthe climate change agenda?
They're bringing it onthemselves. How about
themselves? How about thispedal?
It's the concept, what pedal?Actually? Pedal a bike. Pedal
your bike. Yes, I'm.
Launching this new meme, pedalyour bike. You don't need an E
bike. Just pedal. It's good foryou. You'll be healthy. You get

(02:10:09):
your you know, with gear, withthe something, there's a
process. It's a mechanicalprocess called gears. No, yes,
you can actually pedal fast. Youcan pedal faster and faster and
faster with the same basiceffort. But who because of
gears. But who are we kidding?John, these are the coffee
Badgers,

(02:10:32):
the coffee badgers. Badgers,coffee coffee badgers. Yes, it's
a concept called Coffee badging.Yeah, I never heard this,
neither had I but here's a CNBCreport on the topic meet Mr. A
every morning. Mr. A strollsinto the office at 9am swiping
his badge with perfectenthusiasm. He hits a few

(02:10:53):
meetings, grabs coffee withcolleagues, and keeps the daily
buzz going. But here's thetwist, come noon, he sneaks out,
heading home to wrap up his workin comfort. By around five, he's
clocked out. Missionaccomplished. Mr. A has
redefined the nine to five inhis own terms. And
interestingly, this trend alsohas an a new trend emerging in
the back to Office push, andthat is coffee badging. Coffee

(02:11:17):
badging is two worlds colliding.It's employers wanting to get
their workers back into theoffice, and employees desire to
really have more flexibility onthe job. And so that's coming
together in this trend of coffeebadging. Coffee badging is
happening because workers areusing this as a soft revolt
against their return to Officemandates that companies have put
out, and they just like, badgein, have a coffee, check in with

(02:11:40):
their colleagues, do some work,and then leave their office
early. There it is coffeebadging. Why is it called Coffee
badging? Because you use yourbadge to check in because, you
know, we don't know thisanymore, yeah. Well, what's the
guy? Wait,
I have a cup of coffee. But Iguess it has, you had to have a
cup of coffee, don't you that?Mean, it sounds like no, no. You

(02:12:01):
have no. You're misunderstandingthe process is you sign in with
your badge every every office.We don't know this anymore,
because we don't have an office.
You walk into the, I know theprocess, you have a little
badge. Yeah, everyone's checked.And the cool gig, the cool kids,
have a badge on a kind of aspring thing. You pull it out of
a of a thing, and you and thenyou let it go, and it snaps back

(02:12:23):
back. Yes. Okay, so you're nowregistered, because everything
these days is registered, andyou know, that's why they have
the mouse movers and all this.Yeah, this is the now, I'm not
exactly sure, but I guess it'ssomehow different than having a
punch clock. It's the samething.
Yes, then you get on your bake,a light phone,

(02:12:46):
and you send some memos fromyour typewriter, but yes. And
then so you go in, you do ameet. He's checking with her,
hey, hey, good morning. GM, howyou doing everybody? Pura Vida,
Okay, how's it going? And you doa meeting. And then at noon, you
triple out, and you go home andyou sit on your laptop, or you
have your mouse mover working,that we have no productivity, or

(02:13:08):
we have too much middlemanagement that doesn't need to
be here. That's probably thereal problem. Well, that's the
real deal. But what's what's gotto do with coffee
well, because you go in and yousay hi to everybody around the
coffee machine. That's soeveryone sees your face.
So looks like, you know, we Isaw him this morning. Yeah, he's
around. He's probably in his Oh,I see his mouse is moving. He's

(02:13:30):
in the office.
Okay, yeah, I have anotherthere's a phrase that I heard
over the over dinner, and I wantyou to tell me if you know this
phrase, what? What is it when aperson dips? When a person dips?
Yeah, yeah, this I'm told by Jayand Brandon, oh, everybody knows

(02:13:52):
this term.
I have to say I am not familiarwith the term. I didn't know it.
Either. I don't know. I've neverheard it. Is it dipping tobacco?
That's, well, that would be odd.That would be what it should
mean, yeah, yeah, no. It meansLeave, leave.

(02:14:12):
That's dipping you dip.
Yeah. They were talking about Ohyeah. JC and just gonna come
over, then they're gonna dip.
That's what she said. Just saysthis. And of course, anybody
that says stuff like this at mytable, they get a they get a
grilling. I'm not that old,

(02:14:33):
so I bring it up. What is thissupposed to mean? What is this
an idea? Are you gonna startusing this kind of street art?
Gotcha Yes, at the table. Well,if you're gonna end up being
grilled about it, yes, and whatkind of gang member you're
getting this from, well, you
should tell them is, if you dothat, you're a dipshit. There
you go. Actually, there's adipshit gag that was involved in

(02:14:57):
the whole thing. But, well, youknow who?
Not dipping
is these poor astronauts who arestill on the space station, more
than six months after startingwhat was supposed to be an eight
day mission to the InternationalSpace Station. Astronauts Sunita
Williams and her space stationfamily are now preparing to
spend the holidays right therein space. Welcome to the

(02:15:19):
International Space Station aswe get ready for the Christmas
holidays, it's a great time ofyear up here. We get to spend it
with all of our family up on theInternational Space Station.
There's seven of us up here, andso we're going to get to enjoy
company together. Williams andfellow astronaut Butch Wilmore
were less stuck aboard the ISSback in June, after a leak in

(02:15:41):
their Boeing spacecraft madetheir return trip impossible, a
SpaceX resupply mission gavethem gifts and fresh ingredients
to make special meals just forthe holidays. The pair were
supposed to come home back inFebruary, but a delay in
launching their replacementsmeans they'll actually have to
wait until March or April tocome back to Earth. Something is

(02:16:06):
wrong here. Elon, I agree, but Itell you, the overtime must be
unbelievable.
Elon, you know, had theopportunity to be the hero, to
show to shine all over Boeing tosend up a starship and bring
them back home safely. Instead,he sends up hats and a Christmas

(02:16:29):
tree and a canned ham. You know,I'm thinking there's, there's an
issue with the docking, or thatthere's been so many maybe this,
maybe this thing is a dud,maybe, maybe they can't dock
anymore.
I have a bad feeling about this.
It doesn't make sense. And yeah,Elon should have brought him

(02:16:51):
back in February. Should havebeen done deal that would have
been perfect. Yeah, now they putit off another month or two, not
more than that, march, march orapril,
month or two or three.
Okay, on Elon, just for amoment,

(02:17:11):
we're still the M 5m. Is stilltrying to break up the bromance
between Elon and President Trumpand Jen pasaki, who was clearly
drunk in this clip is adding herpart. So now, of course there's
lots of speculation about whenhis Tell me that's not drunk.
Wow,
plastered. So now, of coursethere's lots of

(02:17:36):
speculation. So now, of coursethere's lots of speculation
about when his this relationshipmight, as has happened so many
times over the years, withTrump's generals and people,
feels kind of inevitable, right?I mean, the thing is, this is
not going to be the same,though, as Trump casting aside a
Scaramucci or Rex Tillerson,because Elon Musk is the richest
man in the world. He owns asocial media megaphone, a

(02:17:59):
platform where he has over 200million followers, and we just
saw the power he wields over theRepublican Party. He also has
billions of dollars ingovernment contracts. I mean,
we're relying on Space X rocketsto get American astronauts to
space and back. This is not aneasy relationship to untangle my
point. So yes, I mean, thisbreakup could happen, but if it

(02:18:21):
does, and it may take longerthan we suspect, I do think if
it does, it's going to be very,very messy.
Wow, that's an in depth reportthat brought nothing to the
party or the table. Why? But shewas, yeah,
it's a lead in to what, by theway, wasn't Elon Musk going to

(02:18:44):
buy MSNBC, you dopes. Well, thatwas that. That was a lark that
he put, somebody put out there,and then someone amplified it.
But it all freaked out. I willsay it's getting to Trump just a
little bit, just a tiny, tinybit. As you saw, the President
Elect acknowledged the line thatDemocrats have really seemed to
latch on to during the budgetnegotiations. President musk,

(02:19:07):
take a listen to one responsethat the President had,
President Elect at Russia,Russia, Russia, Ukraine,
Ukraine, Ukraine, all thedifferent hoaxes. The new one is
President Trump has ceded thepresidency to Elon must? No, no,
that's not happening.

(02:19:28):
But Elon has done an amazingjob. Isn't it nice to have smart
people that we could rely on?
I think it's getting to him justa little bit well, they they
know how to needle fraud him,and they've been doing it, and
they don't do it just a littlebit, they all team up. And I
think it, I mean, he knowswhat's going on, but he's

(02:19:51):
it does. But I think it bothershim, Chris, it does, but it has
been fantastic because Elontakes all the arrows and he just
sits in Mar a Lago. I think Elonis a guy.
That is the perfect foil.Fantastic. He can put up with
it. He's Asperger's, you know,plus plus one. And he's like,
you know, I don't seem to care.He's he's more impervious to

(02:20:12):
complaints than than Trump is,speaking of Asperger's plus.
This was a very interestinginterview with our Pennsylvania
friend,
Senator John Fetterman, which, Ithink what was this on, was
this, I think it was ABC. And Idon't even know if, if he knows

(02:20:33):
what he was saying, because theycut this, you know, because he's
very his speeches, although hisspeech is better, he just goes
off the rails. He does theweave, but never comes back. And
they edited this. There musthave been, I stopped counting
after 1010, edits in this onepiece, and he's like, Oh, I'm
kind of, you know, we got tostop this nonsense. He's pro

(02:20:54):
Trump. It was, I thought he isreally interesting. I'm just a
regular Democrat. I'm notleaving my party, but I'm not
sure why some of the things thatI've chosen to do, like meeting
with nominees and having viewsthat might be more aligned with
some of the Republican side, Ithink that's part of politics.
Like I've been warning peoplelike, You got to chill out, you

(02:21:18):
know, like the constant, youknow, freak out. It's not
helpful. So, you know, pack alunch. Pace yourself.
He hasn't even taken office yet,because I'm not rooting against
him. If you're rooting againstthe president, you are rooting
against the nation and and I'mnot ever going to be where I

(02:21:41):
want a president to fail socountry first. I know that it's
become maybe like a cliche, butit happens to be truth. You have
a singular political talent.
It's undeniable. Trump, youknow, he had the energy and

(02:22:03):
almost a sense of fearlessnessto just say all those kinds of
thing and people, it's, it'sundeniable that it has an
entertaining aspect for thattoo. I never believed that it
was about fascism, and for me,that made it difficult for
Harris said that he was afascist. Well, it's like, that's

(02:22:25):
a prerogative. I mean, but, butit's not a word that I would
use, because you put a lot ofDemocrats, especially in my
state, that I know, and I happento love, people that are going
to vote for Trump, and they arenot fascist. And also fascism.
That's not a word that regularpeople, you know, use that, you
know, I think people are goingto decide who is the candidate

(02:22:48):
that's going to protect andproject, you know, my version of
the American way of life. Andthat's what happened.
Unbelievable. He's, he's, I'mglad you got that clip. He's an
okay guy. He's an okay guy. Theone point he makes in there,
which I didn't consider at thetime, but it should have been
considered, which is, he's rightabout the word fascist. Nobody

(02:23:10):
knows what that means. Yeah,they think they do.
You know, there's just, it'sjust like, it's a term from
World War Two and before, Imean, it became a thing in the
20s, and it became a movementFauci out of Italy, actually.
And then it became a party, andthen it became part of the Nazi

(02:23:32):
ethos, and say. And then itdisappeared from use, and it
hasn't been used since, in anyreal sense, ever since. And so
what 20 year old or 30 year oldeven knows what it means or
cares? Well, the Democrats arepounding it out fascism fashion
lie of the year. It should havebeen. But no,

(02:23:54):
yeah, he's, he's got a he's verycommon sense. Ish, yeah. And by
the way, the Italian guys, 40and over, they understand what
Fascism is, because they say theEuropean Union, Brussels
fascist. And they're right,
that's the definition offascism, right there, yeah.
Well, the Italy's really, youknow, was the foundation of

(02:24:15):
fascism. And so they would, theyinvent have it in their culture
and in their history. Theyinvented it. They know what it's
about. They invented it. Theydid good at it. It was and by
the way, it was an academicmovement out of the
universities. You know, we wentto a winery while we were in
Florence. We went to theCastillo de versano, yeah, and I

(02:24:36):
did not know that the Verrazanoguy who has the castle there
where they still do Chiantiwine, that he's the guy that
discovered the Hudson Bay, andthat's the Verrazano Narrows
Bridge is named after him. Yeah,I didn't know that. Yeah, would
you and you know how we, how we,how we ended up

(02:24:58):
dead? Yes. Do you know how.
Do you know how he ended dead?No, you get
well, he went on to discover theBahamas, and then there were
cannibals, and they ate him.
Well, that's what Joe Biden gotthat story.
They tell you that on the tourthey have behind the Bahamians,
Bahamians cannibalism going on,and they ate this guy. That's

(02:25:21):
the story. They're looking for,an Italian meal. Was that the
deal? Yes, pasta. Here we go getthis Verrazano guy.
So while they're while Fettermanis all lovey dovey with Trump,
they the Congress the housedecided to screw gates, who's
been doing some screwing of hisown, a new house ethics report

(02:25:43):
is out accusing formercongressman Matt gates of
violating state laws regardingprostitution, statutory rape and
drug use. The 37 page reportfinds that gates paid women for
sex or drugs on at least 20occasions, and includes text
message screenshots where gatesasked women to bring, quote, a
full compliment of party favorshotel. The committee says that

(02:26:05):
this was a code word for ecstasyor other drugs. Another exchange
shared by the committee anunnamed woman and gates seem to
be arguing over pay. When sheasks gates, quote, so I'm not to
be taken care of for last week,Gates respond saying, quote, I
gave you 250 today and aboutlast week says, quote, You gave
me a drive by now, Gates isstriking back at the report on

(02:26:28):
his ex account, hosting orreposting about it more than 30
times since its release, writingin part, quote, they did this to
me in a Christmas Eve Evereport, and not in a courtroom
of any kind where I couldpresent evidence and challenge
witnesses. Trump, meantime,continues to stand by gates late
last night, Gates posting thispicture with the caption, I got
a great note from PresidentTrump. The note is written on a

(02:26:50):
printed headline of the storyand reads, Matt, very unfair.
So it was like $100,000
for 10 escorts.
Yes, there was a that that iskind of distressing, eight
grand, but the other there'sother 100 grand. Yeah, there's a
there's other aspects of thestory that should be noted.

(02:27:12):
Yeah, and there's three of them.
First off, the woman who accusedgates, dude said she was 17 and
accused accused gates. She's,I'm, according to one news
report, and the reporter seemsto be a real guy who used to
work for Associated Press,claims she's actually in jail

(02:27:34):
for pulling the stunt of sexualaccusations. Oh, interesting.
And she's in the slammer, okay?And so there's that one thing.
The second thing is that lot ofthis is set up so gates can sue
Congress over the release ofthis information. Interesting,
because they're not supposed todo so there's a lawsuit that's
possible. And if this woman's inprison, I think that could, that

(02:27:56):
could go through. And the thirdthing is, Marjorie Taylor Green
has come out, and I thinkreasonably So, and says, if
we're going to start releasingthis sort of thing, let's
release all these. We have a tonof these things backed up. Of
all the bribes that have beengoing on from Congress have paid
off, you know, pages andbookers, $27 million yeah, it's

(02:28:19):
some huge amount. It's a hugeamount. If you're going to
release this one report, let'srelease all the reports and
later, let it go. Yeah, and Ithink she's right. Good idea.
That would be fun, good for theshow. That'd be great fun for
the show. And I bet you'd begreat for this show, bitch. And
Nancy Pelosi has a couple ofthem on her name, you wouldn't

(02:28:39):
be surprised. Yes. And thenthere's this, this report, which
I'm troubled by both parties inour country, about this, Donald
Trump's team criticizingPresident Biden after his
decision to commute thesentences of most federal death
row inmates to life in prison, aspokesperson for Trump's
transition team saying, quote,these are among the worst

(02:29:00):
killers in the world, and thisabhorrent decision by Joe Biden
is a slap in the face to thevictims, their families and
their loved ones. PresidentTrump stands for the rule of
law, which will return when heis back in the White House after
he was elected with a massivemandate from the American
people, early yesterday, theWhite House announcing Biden is
taking 37 people off a federaldeath row, not commuting, three

(02:29:23):
individuals, one of two brothersresponsible for the Boston
Marathon bombing, Dylann Roofwho killed nine people at a
historically black church inCharleston, South Carolina, and
Robert Bowers, who killed 11 atPittsburgh Tree of Life
synagogue. In a statement, Bidenpushed back against the use of
the death penalty at the federallevel, saying, quote, make no
mistake, I condemn thesemurderers. Grieve for the

(02:29:46):
victims of their despicableacts, and eight, for all of the
families who have sufferedunimaginable and irreparable
loss. And good conscience, Icannot stand back and let a new
administration resume executionsthat I halted the.
This is so troubling, because onone hand, you have the Democrats
and Biden with a moral issue,

(02:30:08):
saying, Hi, we can't killpeople, but we all want
abortion. And then, yeah, thishas always been the classic
irony, both the Democrats, theRepublicans, yes, because the
Republicans are pro life, exceptwhen it comes to executions,
yes, like, how does theDemocrats are pro death? Except

(02:30:30):
when it comes to executions,it's just like, what? And so
people pick a side and thenBiden screws this, I think is
that just some other people thatcame on and gave testimony about
the testimony, they came out anddiscussed this on these shows.
And it's like, if Biden is goingto do this, because he's so
adamant about the death penalty,why did he leave the three guys

(02:30:51):
still on death row? Yeah, ifyou're gonna do it, you you let
everybody off. You don't haveyou don't pick three guys as
well. You know, these guys justsaid I drive draw the line with
them.
It just doesn't make any sense.I mean,
it's against my morals, any kindof death. But if you're going to
do it, give us the television,right? So we can broadcast live.

(02:31:15):
But you've always wanted that.You know that I want to
broadcast billionaire move,that's right. We want the the
television, right? So theexecutions and the abortions,
it'll end people's thirst fordeath forever. But that's
probably true. Ratings it's apositive thing to ratings
bonanza. I'm telling you, itwould be great they have that.

(02:31:36):
They used to do, that they usedto have the executions in the in
the in the town square. Yeah,they did. Yeah, I know. Then
we're gonna hide it. Now, hideit. So I have a clip that's
interesting. Now, I don't knowthat this is true. I don't it's
it looked like it was a PBSclip, I think because they
showed the video, and this isdistressing. And at the same

(02:31:57):
time, I like to see it done tosomebody do a scientific version
of it instead of this randomthing. It could be bull crap,
but it doesn't surprise me if itis true. This clip is the lizard
DNA clip.
Okay, I wanted to see what wouldhappen if I sent my pet lizard
DNA into 23 at me, and so, withthe help of my wife, we

(02:32:20):
extracted enough saliva to sendoff in the mail. We were so
excited to see the results.After about three months, we
were shocked. My lizard was 51%Ashkenazi Jewish. He was also
48% West Asian.
This was really interesting.They also gave us a little bit

(02:32:41):
of his background and hishistory, what he liked to eat,
etc,
let us know which animals. Yeah,I don't believe in these DNA
tests anymore, ever since wesent off two separate tests for
our dog and they came backwildly different. It's I don't
trust it. I think is bogus too,but I don't I can believe that

(02:33:04):
they'd send a lizard saliva inand get Ashkenazi Jew, which,
apparently everybody in theworld turns out to be a certain
percentage of that. Yes, andthat doesn't surprise me, since
the company is founded by thewoman who is married to an
Ashkenazi Joe. I mean,
there you go, but it's 23they're not even in business

(02:33:24):
anymore.
I think they're still doingtesting. Oh no. Why would anyone
say it doesn't mean they're notbankrupt, but whatever the case.
Okay, so we heard, once again,this is 2024 the hottest year on
record for climate change due toclimate change. And it was

(02:33:44):
interesting to see that it hadnot snowed in the Alps, in the
portion of the mini Alps wherewe went with for my brother in
law's birthday party, there wassnow there for the first time in
five years, but it still isstill the hottest year on
record, and they were trying tokeep it up over there on NBC.
It's the picture perfectHollywood holiday, a white

(02:34:06):
Christmas full of snow andwonder movies like It's a
Wonderful Life, Merry
Christmas, Home Alone,
elf and countless more. Andbefore the silver screen came
Silver Bells, White Christmasand other iconic songs
connecting snow and Christmas inour collective American psyche.

(02:34:29):
But now the idea of a whiteChristmas may become a thing of
fiction this week. Mostlyeveryone, coast to coast,
experiencing warmer than averagetemperatures, a big reason for
the difference climate change.Climate change typically the
highest chances of a whiteChristmas in the US are in the
Upper Midwest, Adirondacks andnorthern New England, and in the
West, higher elevation, Sierramountain ranges. But climate

(02:34:53):
change is continuing to drive uptemperatures across the nation.
Just last year, the NationalWeather Service.
Service reported only about 17%of the lower 48 experienced a
white Christmas with one inch ormore of snow on the ground, the
lowest number since measuringthat started in 2003 some of the
biggest cities up north, likeWashington, DC, Philadelphia and

(02:35:16):
New York City haven't seen snowon Christmas day since 2009
the Environmental ProtectionAgency studied why, and says in
almost 80% of locations, they'regetting less snow and more rain.
But whoops, some might find agreat news either way, the
National Weather Service officeout of New York, officially
declaring it is a whiteChristmas.

(02:35:39):
First time since 2009
there's a tweet. So theyactually sent people out to
measure at Central Park thismorning at 7am and for those of
you not familiar, there is atechnical definition of a white
Christmas. You've got to haveone inch of snow on the ground.
And again, this is all forbookkeeping. It can be relative.
I mean, if it's me and I lookout the window and I see some

(02:35:59):
snowflakes flying around. I'mcalling it a white Christmas,
but this is for the books, firstone that we've had since 2009
and actually in oh nine, we hadtwo inches of snow on the
ground.
So due to climate change, itsnowed, I guess.
What a crock. It really is.What? I guess people don't
believe it anymore. It's justtoo bad, but we're spending so

(02:36:21):
much money on it.
All right, to get this to wrapthis, show up, John, I see you
have them, so I
guess some
clips. But I mean, I could pushthrough these around, because I
have some I have a couple ofnews. Well, I wanted to play

(02:36:45):
that. Yeah, I have two otherones. I got a couple of tick
tock clips. I gave you the Glist. Yeah, I know you did, but
you didn't get cued to do that.You just did it.
You didn't press the button. Iknow I got this button here, and
I didn't press I just want toplay the climate mammoth found.
I think this is interesting,because you talk about climate

(02:37:07):
change. I had a climate clip. Ishould have seen it. I should
have seen it. You're right. Theclimate mammoth story, it's
important. It's big. Everyone'stalking about it. Scientists in
Siberia have unearthed what theysay may be the best preserved
body of a wooly mammoth everfound. The 50,000 year old
remains of the female babymammoth are complete with flesh,
skin and bones. She's believedto have been just a year old

(02:37:31):
when she died, they found her inthe melting permafrost, which
has been accelerated by climatechange that's led to more
prehistoric discoveries inrecent weeks, including the
35,000 year old mummified bodyof a saber tooth kitten, also in
Siberia, it was so wellpreserved, a lead researcher
said its fur was, quote,surprisingly soft due to climate

(02:37:55):
change. Climate change is great.There shouldn't be petting dead
animals. You get bird flu thatway. Don't pet the dead animals.
People stop it.
I thought climate change, thatwas a good that's good side of
climate change. Why they don'tsee it as a good positive. And
it was a kitten. It was a woolymetal what was it? A Saber Tooth

(02:38:16):
kitten. Kitten. Saber Toothkitten. That's a new one Saber
Tooth kitten. And now I havethis one other clip I'd like to
get out of the way, which is theUkraine stolen Russian money.
Clip, oh boy. Officials inUkraine say they've received the
first billion dollars inpromised loans from the United
States, backed by proceeds offrozen Russian assets. Appears.

(02:38:38):
Brian Mann reports from Kyivthat the funding comes as part
of a $50 billion loan plancreated by g7 leaders last
summer. Ukraine's PrimeMinister, Danish mahal said on
social media, the first billiondollars have arrived. That's out
of 20 billion in loans expectedfrom the US, with an additional
30 billion in support slated tocome from other big industrial

(02:39:00):
g7 countries, including Britainand Canada, we thank our
American partners and the WorldBank for this important step
toward justice. Mahal said thearrangement allows countries to
support Ukraine's economy andmilitary with massive loans,
with payback coming from revenuefrom Russia's overseas assets
frozen after the 2022 invasion,Russian officials have condemned

(02:39:23):
the arrangement as fraudulent,posting on social media that
loans and other support forUkraine will prolong the war.
So what do they do with thismoney? Stealing money? I just
find it deplorable, yeah, butthey're going to spend it on war
stuff, on us.
Well, I don't know, maybe I hopeso.
All right, so I'm gonna play, Igot three talk clips I can play

(02:39:46):
three. Okay, yeah, is that toomany mobile let's see how they
do. Okay, well, let's start withthe one, the trans girl. I don't
know if it's a girl or a guy, aguy being a girl or girl being a
guy. I guess it's a girl. You.
That is trans somehow. Butwhatever the case, she hates
now, hates her dad because hevoted for Project 2025 which I

(02:40:08):
didn't know is on the ballot.You know, I had voted in this
last election. I looked and Ididn't see a vote there for
Project 2025 but I guess maybein some areas there was. Let's
see what she has to say. Um, Itook yesterday to be angry and
miserable, and I also tookyesterday to make the decision
to block my father, who willstill end up seeing this. So,

(02:40:29):
hi, Dad. And yes, I did blockhim because of who he voted for,
because he knows that I amtrans, and he knows that I have
had two abortions, and he stillvoted for Project 2025 Which to
me, is reprehensible. I have myhusband who loves and supports
me to the ends of the earth. Ihave my friends who love and
support me to the ends of theearth, and I have other family

(02:40:50):
members who love and support meto the ends of the earth, and I
genuinely do not need anyoneelse. I realize this is
something not everyone is ableto do safely, and I'm very
grateful for my ability to dothat safely. I cut my mother off
until the day she died, and Ican and will do that again.

(02:41:14):
I find it also that terrible. Ifind it very sad
that she's a sad these peopleare all sad. Yeah, there's
another good example. This isthe Christmas candy lady.
Christmas candy lady, okay, Ijust walked some Christmas candy
that my neighbors make everyyear and leave on people

(02:41:36):
people's porches. I just walkedit back over to their house and
stuck it on their porch andwalked away. That's unlike me,
but
they've had their giant Trumptake America back again flag up
for months.
They know my daughter'stransgender. I've tried talking
to them about it, kindly andgently, asking them not to do

(02:41:57):
something that would basicallydestroy my child, and they
didn't care. So at this momentin time, I feel that it would be
really hypocritical of me toaccept a gift from them. I don't
care that it's Christmas, okay.Me Christmas every day. Give my
daughter the gift of safety, abathroom she can use in her name

(02:42:19):
and her gender. How about that?Give her that,
and then you can do all thecandy you want, until then you
can take your candy back again.You know, the common theme here
is narcissism. This is thecommon theme. These these people
are narcissists. It's all aboutthem. It's not about her
daughter and the other one's notabout her. It's about her. And

(02:42:40):
I, should, I should, you know?So we were at breakfast at the
hotel in Florence, and, andwe're sitting down and, and
there's a whole bunch of peoplethere. It's a busy, you know,
it's a buffet breakfast. Andright next was this table with
mom, dad and two kids. And thesekids, they're, you know, they're

(02:43:00):
noisy. They're running around.You know, which would you ever
let your kid run around in arestaurant? No, no, of course
not. You say, shut up. Shut up.You're bothering people. So the
dad is just looking into spacewhile Mom is on her phone. The
whole time
she's completely oblivious tothe kids, to her husband, and

(02:43:22):
then I think the father said,maybe one thing, hey, is Be
quiet. And then it switched andthen she was off looking into
space, and he was on his phone.
I mean, it's there's somethinginherently narcissistic about a
generation that's grown up withphones. And by the way, why are
you putting this on tick? Tock,

(02:43:44):
you know, the big question,yeah, I think you, you that's a
very interesting observation,is, I've always felt the same
way. Why are you narcissism,defining narcissism, why are you
putting this on tick? Tock. Why?Exactly, what do you? What does
it accomplish? Well, here, well,it's narcissism, and people pay

(02:44:07):
attention to you and postcomments like, oh, girl,
big thing. And Tina was showingthis to me, the big thing this
holiday season, the Christmascheer, is a post that goes like
this. This is a really difficultpost. This is really difficult
for me to tell you. And thenit's, you know about, you know,
my mom died, my dog died, mysister died, you know, I lost my

(02:44:30):
job. It's like, why are youdoing this? And I can only
conclude the same thing, it'snarcissism, and they thrive on
getting the you know, you're avictim. And by the way, it's
mainly white women who havethese horrible stories, and it
always this is really difficult,and they're crying, but I think
that just they they don't haveany victim cards, so they need

(02:44:54):
to be a victim by somethinghorrible. And you know what
horrible things happened in yourlife? It happens you.
But they need to put it on ticktock, or on reels or x these
days, everything has the samevideo scrolling behavior, and it
has something to do with very,very deep narcissistic behavior.
I

(02:45:15):
think you can blame the phones.Since you mentioned women, I do
have the same thing only as aguy, uh huh. And of course, you
can visualize what this guylooks like. Do I need to
visualize him? Does there'salways this kind of piggy like
face and all these people, thewomen and the men, but this guy,
this is the dude who's donecrying. Oh gosh, okay, dude, I'm

(02:45:40):
done crying. My sadness is over.My anger has set in.
I am a very petty person, and Iam very proud of that little bit
about myself, actually. And so Isay this in the most
disrespectful way possible. Idon't care if you are my family,
I don't care if you're myfriend. I don't care if we've

(02:46:02):
been friends our entire lives,you can literally go fuck
yourself if you voted for DonaldTrump, if you are so sad about
your groceries being expensive,get a better fucking paying job.
Do better in life, get a fuckingeducation. Do something because
you're fucking stupid, and Ihope you go jump off of a

(02:46:25):
fucking bridge. Okay, we needwarnings for these clips because
kids listen to show with theirparents, and it's all, I don't
care. I yeah, you're, you know,nailed it with the NAR. It's all
narcissistic, yes, and it'spathetic. All right, let's play
the logged in girl. Because Isaw this one, I thought this was

(02:46:46):
pretty okay now that now, now weswitch gears. I liked her. I
like so there. That's funny. Yousaw it, yeah. So we switched
gears here. Instead of bitchingand moaning about Trump Yes, or
or having to disown your parentsbecause the way they voted,
because you, you know you, theyhave to vote the way you want.
This is a form of this is thesame. This is also, I think,

(02:47:07):
narcissistic, but it's but thetarget is different. And it's
actually quite funny. I am sotired of logging into things.
I'm
tired of it. I can't believe I'mgonna have to log into things
for the rest of my life. Justlet me see my things. My things

(02:47:28):
are right there. Just be loggedin. Could we just be logged in
for once? And don't, don't getme started on the Keep me logged
in check box. Okay, this is theclosed elevator doors button all
over again. I know bullshit whenI smell it. If I ever see the
person that programmed thatlittle Jack box, it is

(02:47:49):
absolutely on site. I just wantto be logged and all you cyber
security people that told them,that told the websites that we
need to be changing ourpasswords every five minutes.
You're next. I don't care ifthat makes me safer, I will go
ahead hack my shit. You're gonnahate what you find. Okay, I just

(02:48:13):
would rather be logged in, andif one of you smart ass little
punks comes into my comments andtells V I should be using a
password manager that, oh, thekeychain will fix all of this.
Okay, I wish Bucha this can't bethe future. Oh,
I liked her. I liked her.

(02:48:35):
Yes, that was pretty good. Okay,we finished with that. The keep
me logged in box is kind of ahoax after grade. That thing
rarely works for me either.
It works once in a while. Yeah,people don't. It's the closed
elevator door button, which isusually not hooked to anything
exactly I'm gonna show my schoolby donating to no agenda.

(02:48:57):
Imagine all the people who coulddo that. Oh, yeah, that'd be
fun.
We do have some meetup reportscoming and a rundown of the
meetups that are on the way. Andof course, everyone wants to
stick around for John's famousTip of the Day. But first we're
going to thank every singleproducer who supported us

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financially in our value forvalue model, $50 and above.
Sorry, your excuse, but I did.By the way, you were you snapped
close the spreadsheet. I know Ihad clicked. I closed the by the
way, it shows how fast we getback online. I had clicked the

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instead of shrinking the window,you click the disconnect button.
I disconnected. I didn't evensee it.
Wow, clean feed. Man, those guysare good again. It's beautiful.
Well, we do have a few people tothank, starting with Brian shop
in Haysville, Kansas, 123451, ofour best numbers, yes, uh.

(02:50:00):
Uh, John acrylic,
uh, acrylic crelic project, I'llsay Crowl dick. Crowl dick. He's
in North port, New York, and hegave $102
switcheroo donation. He gavetwice, and one switcheroo is for
Anthony krajik, and the otherones for Peter. Well, that's

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Name Patricia Worthington. She'sin Miami, Florida. She's an old
friend. 100 bucks. MerryChristmas, she says. Jason
marurer in Vancouver,Washington, $100 smartest place
in the world to live. I Kevin MCyou don't have to pay state

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bridge to Portland. Nice. KevinMcLaughlin in Concord, North
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808 boobs. He's the Archduke oflunar lover of America and
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Uh. Brian Kaufman in Scottsdale,Arizona, 7575 Dame Rita in
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uh. Matthew elwart in orWeatherford, Texas, 6006 6733

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jiggly balls, if I if I'm notcorrect, if I'm not mistaken,
yeah, something like that, yeah,yeah. It was never lost. No.
Never caught on, never caughton. I wonder why certain things
don't catch on. 606 kind ofcatches on us. Small boobs.
Zachary Maywood in Los Angeles,California, 5555 Cameron Ling in

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uh. Susan sarin in nunnum,nunnum, Netherlands. Nun him.
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by the way, everyone's wishingus a Merry Christmas and a Happy
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it's also the net. Sir linemanof the net. Raleigh Hawk, yes.
Samantha, lumen do inPittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 5272
and everyone's wishing us amerry Christmas. Uh, Steve Myers

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Alexa Delgado in Aptos,California. That's a $50
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location next to Steven Jeansonin Lake Oswego, Oregon.
Jeffrey phrase in Moraga, ohMoraga should come to the

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(02:55:35):
we wind up the year, the noagenda meet ups are still going
strong, people hanging outtogether, human to human, Mano,
a mano, woman, oh, a mono it'swhat you need. Your connection.
It always gives you protection.These people you meet at the
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Hopewell. Trains, good, planes,bad. Hi. This is Rosalynn from
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Christopher and King Georgehappy to be at our first meetup
in eight months. Hey. This isSir William of West.
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Tom Stark weather. I have notbeen at a meet up in more than
six months, and this rechargedme.
Yes, you get recharged from themeetup. You get recharged by
hanging out with human beings,put down the phone, lift your
head, go to a meetup, as theydid in Los Banos, California,

(02:57:01):
for the resist, we much meetup.This is Commodore sir Robertson
of two sticks at the resist. Wemuch meet up at me and EDS in
Los Banos, sir Montague here,having a great time with great
people and great pizza. Allright. This dude named Ben,
named Ben Duke of San Francisco,getting ready for the eventual

(02:57:22):
disclosure or Project BLUE bank.This is Sir recalcitrant, crazy
Steve the second, and I justwant to wish my wife Rose a
happy 17th anniversary as ofyesterday. Yes, Adam and John,
we got together the same year.You two dudes created the best
podcast in the universe, and wenever had a fight.

(02:57:43):
Actually, we have and I alwayswant
Merry Christmas in the morning.
Very nice to hear lovely thatmeet up started this morning in
Dallas. Fort Worth the midcities meet up at 1130 as the
Bourbon Street Bar and Grill. SoI hope to get a meet up report

(02:58:04):
from them for Sunday, the FortWayne. See, this is for, I'm
sorry, my mistake, there'snothing, nothing today. That's
for Saturday. There you go. Sothat will be taking place 1130
and that's in Bedford, Texas,the Fort Wayne club, 33 year
end. Man and cheese meetup, manand cheese meetup, 333 at Casa

(02:58:24):
grill and bar in Fort Wayne,Indiana. That should be a good
one. And then on Sunday, NewYear's Eve. December 30, well,
we will be doing a show. IsSunday New Year's Eve?
No, Sunday is not New Year'sEve. New Year's Eve is New
Year's is Monday, Monday,
no. New Year's Eve is Tuesday,Tuesday. Well, these guys are

(02:58:46):
nuts. Oh, I see what they callinto New Year's Eve Eve.
You're You're confusing thepodcaster, New Year's Eve Eve
and I like pizza. Steve, that'sthe whole meet up. Title, 330 on
Sunday. Bald man brewing inEagan, Minnesota. Oh, that's
Steve bien and stra he's thehe's our pilot. Go to hang out

(02:59:08):
with him. He has lots of coolstories also coming up in the
new year, Raleigh, NorthCarolina, Colorado Springs. We
have Ronan Park, California,Yukon, Oklahoma, Baton Rouge,
Louisiana, Cincinnati, Ohio,Eagle, Idaho, Keene, New
Hampshire, South slogan, BritishColumbia, Scandinavia,
Charlotte, North Carolina. TriCities, Washington, adventura,

(02:59:31):
Florida, Rockville, Maryland. Iused to live in rockville or
near rockville, AlbanyCalifornia. Hey, John, February
1, Albany, Albany California.That's near you. You should go.
Are you going? Huh? You go? Ohyeah, I'll be there. Cool. 23rd
Orlando, Florida. This isFebruary. Then March st,
Petersburg, Florida, safe and inthe Netherlands. March 29 may

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18, wow. Go to no agendameetups.com and get the full
list of every single no agendameetup that's taking place.
These are producer organized.It's like Ted.
Walks only a lot cooler and youcan get drunk. No agenda,
meetups.com. If you can find onenear you, start one yourself.
Sometimes you want to go hangout with all the nights and
days.

(03:00:20):
Feels the same.
It's like a party. And
at this moment in the show, welike to select the ISO that
we'll be using to close out theshow. Once again, I'm falling
down on the job, doing verypoorly with my with my ISOs, but
I do have one, just one from anearlier clip we played no no and

(03:00:41):
double No.
That's really all I've got.That's not always pathetic. I
got better ones. It's pathetic.Well, I know you got better
ones. You can. I have one that Itook the original and then I
edited it so it'd be shorter.Oh, okay, but I have two
versions of the same clip. Okay,all right. And so it's one and

(03:01:02):
two. Is this show over one?Merry Christmas Happy, Hanukkah
happy, New Years, the show isover. It's too long. It won't
fit in this five seconds. Itwon't fit in the outro. When I
have it down as four seconds,well, let's speed it up. Okay,
Merry Christmas Happy, Hanukkahhappy, New Years, the show is
over. Okay,
it's a contender.

(03:01:25):
I'll take it,
yeah. And what else? Twoseconds, yeah, that'll do.
That'll do. Okay, let's trythese other two and see if
they're better. I got done, yep,okay, we are done. Not bad. And
then overall, ready? No, itcan't be over already. No, I
think Merry Christmas. Happy,Hanukkah happy. New Years, the

(03:01:46):
show is over. I think that's thewinner. And now, ladies and
gentlemen, time for the top ofthe show. John's Tip of the Day.
Sometimes battle. Sometimes
Adam, which is part of the tipof the day, seems a new segment
is the complaining about theprevious tip of the day

(03:02:10):
discussion. Oh, who does this?Who's I do, I guess. But who's
complaining? Who's complaining?Who's Oh, well, we have, we have
Puerto Rican listeners, ah, andthey're complainers, hey, oh
yeah, yeah, they're complainingabout a lot of stuff the Puerto
Ricans complained this note iskind of interesting. This came
from one of the complainers,Carlos, and he complains about

(03:02:34):
the Carlos the complainer, huh?Carlos the complainer? Yes. His
last name starts with c2 so it'sgoing to be very good. Carlos,
the complainer, uh, talks aboutAdobe. Goy, Goya, Adobe, the
seasoning is Puerto Rican inorigin. And it should be
mentioned, it's Puerto Rican andand he went on and on. He him

(03:02:54):
and two other guys have mostlycomplained bitterly and but
Carlos, I think, is the one whosaid, Mexican foods no good.
It's tasteless, and all they dois put hot sauce on everything
and and of course, then anotherguy from Puerto Rico says, Well,
you know the problem with theGoya Adobo,
I said to everybody that justgiving a tip for a spice. I

(03:03:16):
don't care the details here, butOkay, all right. So they go on
and on about they should be notcrediting Puerto Rico. But in
this note, he said, I went backand forth with Carlos more than
once. And he said
he talked about the adobo, thenhe said on a different issue,
you can call the companyAmerican. He's talking about the
company started in Puerto Rico,or supposedly, or the guy came

(03:03:39):
from Puerto Rico. It's a NewYork company. I'm part of a
majority of the people of PuertoRico who want to become a state
of the USA. Yeah, in PuertoRico, we are born American
citizens. We have the samepassport as you do in the
States, and there is no suchthing as Puerto Rican
citizenship. That's correct. Weare subjected to the same

(03:04:00):
federal laws and have federalcourts here. The main difference
is that we don't pay federaltaxes. Yes, that's it, which is
attractive to millionaires ofthe states that more that come
here more to avoid payingfederal income taxes and receive
excellent benefits of not payingor just paying a low local

(03:04:21):
income tax. Another issue isthat we can't vote in the
presidential elections, but wecan vote in the primaries of the
GOP and the DMC. Yes. Our DNC,we don't vote in the election of
the Commander in Chief, but weserve in the armed forces. Yes.
So the thing is, now see, so ifyou want to become a state, but
you don't have to right now. Youdon't pay federal income tax.

(03:04:43):
What are you complaining about?Shut up already so you could
vote for the president. That's aswap I'd make. You got a good
deal, as far as I'm concerned.
So I now the end appeal, ofcourse, doesn't start new
thread, yes, but Carlos is ofthe group.
Wants to become a state. And Ithink, Well, I think you said, I

(03:05:04):
admire our Puerto Ricanlisteners. I guess there's quite
a few of them, yeah, because ifthree of them wrote in, that
means there's at least 300 thatprobably Yeah, agree, and we'll
let you in if you pay taxes andback taxes.
I think it got a good dealgoing. But I know a lot of
people who went to Puerto Ricoduring COVID, and they stayed,

(03:05:27):
they never came back. They lovedit. Yes, it's supposed to be
gorgeous. A lot of trash. Ihear, yeah, garbage. They can't
seem to figure out what to dowith it. They don't have a
federal garbage pickup. Anyway,we love you guys. We love you
guys. So this week's tip is fromnail tech. It's the nail

(03:05:48):
bandage, instant nail bandage.Whoa, got it? Redundant. Name is
it? If get it, Amazon is sixbucks and 30 cents, which is
screwball price, but so youcrack a nail. Now, Mimi has her
own way of doing this, but Ithese things work great. You're
cracking nail, which I didbecause I opening a can of the

(03:06:10):
liquid death, I might add,
I cracked the nail and the onthe can, and so I it wishes a
pain in the ass, because you gotthe catches on everything. You
know what I'm talking about. Andso you put these little, it's a
little piece of plastics verythey're hard to get off their
packaging, and some screwyproduct, but you get this little

(03:06:32):
piece of plastic and put it overthe nail, and it can't see it.
It's completely invisible, butit covers up the it seals the
little the crack of the nail.And I recommend this highly.
Now, Mimi has a she told me thisis crap. And what she likes to
do is, you got a crack nail, youput super glue, yes, super glue

(03:06:55):
on the gun the nail, and thenyou coat it with clear nail
polish. And if it's a real badcrack, you can put a very thin
piece of fiberglass over yournails and do the same thing,
glue it on. And I'm thinking, Idon't think so. These little
patches are great. They workfine. So that's my tip once
again. What are they called?What is this called? This nail
bandage? It's available onAmazon by nail tech Tek. I have

(03:07:19):
a tip of the day request
I had for the longest time, andI think I bought it on an
airplane, and I can't find itanymore. I had a scale that you
use to weigh your baggage.
So you put, you hold it in yourhand, and that has the little,
the little digital readout, andthen you clip it onto you hook

(03:07:42):
it onto your luggage handle, andit tells you exactly how much
your luggage weighs, which ishandy, particularly with, you
know, I don't want to be thatguy who's unpacking his suitcase
at check in, and I can't, forthe life of me, find them
anymore. Wow, I'd never heard ofsuch a thing, but it's a great
idea for a product and be veryeasy to make nowadays with the

(03:08:04):
digital Uh, yes, that, thatdude's weighing Yeah, yes, I
would love Sure. There'ssomething out there that do the
trick, and one of our listenersand producers will give us the
answer to that. I should mentionone of my experiences in playing
around in Europe. It went likethis. So I go into the
your bags are two poundsoverweight, yeah. And I said,

(03:08:29):
Oh, what's that going to cost?Well, you know, they had to
fish. It's going to cost 2530bucks. And so hold on a second.
So I unzipped the bag, I tookthe two pound laptop out and
stuck it under my arm, zippedthe bag back up, put it through
the scale, and so, okay, you'regood to go. So then I took the

(03:08:49):
bag off, put the laptop back inand checked it
these days, you can't even payextra for overweight it's a
workman's comp thing. You cannotdo that.
It's like it's if it's over 50pounds, you're screwed. You got
to take it out. And you can't.They will not check your bag.

(03:09:11):
Well, there's always workaround. Don't over pack. There
you go. There you go. And that'syour tip of the day, everybody.
Thank you very much forlistening. Tip of the day.net.
Creative master, and sometimesAdam, he still hasn't called me.
I'm a little irked about it.

(03:09:33):
I'll tell him to call you. Yeah,well, he sent me, shoot me an
email, send me a email, send mea DM. DM will work slide into my
DMs burnetti
And that can or on that Twitteror on X, X, he's always DMing me
on x.
He doesn't, I don't think heuses X much. I think he goes

(03:09:54):
there once a month.
Well,
it's been a month.
We did everything he asked. Hallis typical Hollywood do this for
me, typical, typical Hollywoodarrogance. Yeah,
that concludes our broadcastday. Sunday, I will be coming to
you back from the Texas HillCountry, excited to be back,

(03:10:15):
excited to see my dog again, forsure. End of show. Mix is coming
up from D's laughs And JosephGrillo, who did a great hot
Luigi mix and up next on noagenda stream the modern podcast
apps and trollroom.io eventhough they were they were very
mean to me on Noster, sirSpencer and dame de lurian With

(03:10:36):
bowl after bowl.
See, I forgive. I can forgivecoming to you from 15 feet below
sea level here in stipple,Amsterdam, the Netherlands, in
the morning, everybody. I'm AdamCurry, and from Northern Silicon
Valley, where the weather ismixed, I'm John C Dvorak.
Remember us at no agendadonations.com Until the next

(03:10:56):
time adios mofo is a hooey,hooey inside. And I understand
why you believe crazy things,and I understand why you think
crazy things. I'm the same way.Derek Burch, do you remember if
he has a moniker and Matty JD's, what's the next thing
they're gonna fear monger? Ornot? The virus, climate change,
a world hunger they pass in now,billions in every direction, not

(03:11:19):
a TV show, but we divided byintersection. Marvin F in 71
what's going on? Finishing theyear in 22 where did we go
wrong? Pay attention toeverything. The truth reveals
itself. Is what mol fact said, Isay it to myself. Methaman, you
said, Hey, release your Delf,it's Christmas time. I'm always
moving like the elf on theshelf, but I don't play these

(03:11:41):
childish games. Only one I playis with my nephews. I caught up
all my childish games. Forgotabout the guitars, like Eddie
Hazel Funkadelic is funky, notfresh, like homegrown basil. Two
other producers, thank you forthe three keys, time, talent and
treasure. I think we all agree.John C Dvorak and my man Adam
Curry hosts the best podcastgoing into 2023

(03:12:04):
value for value, internationallifestyle, twice a week. Yo. We
love it all the while you put anumber meaningful to you. Just
don't Nate, don't be a shapeshifting. You know, who
shout out, Matty J for the
instrumental. We going, man up.I don't know, but it was, I
mean, it was one of the moreserious way back in the day.

(03:12:25):
This one now is probably, heprobably got the same one that I
got like a month ago, which I'mnot vaccinable. I got the
Johnson. I got the ghettovaccine. And, you know, I got
the Johnson Johnson right whenit was first available, which
that that was probably just likesyrup, first Pearl, I know,
something like that.
This Ivy League hottie

(03:12:47):
named Luigi. It's a Robin
Hood that we never knew that weneeded. Honestly, it's
beautiful, and I agree with him.
The children have a brand newstar. His name is Luigi, the
cutest little hottie. All theboys think that he's sweet. He

(03:13:09):
shot a CEO right in the back outon the street and rode a city
bike into the park. Sonaturally, oh, Jing it, I did
hot. Luigi the killer,
Italian Christmas killer,

(03:13:30):
because this is like regular,everyday
person. Our hero, Luigi wore amask to hide his killer,
Hollywood face. He made a bigmistake asking the server for a
day a camera caught in clearstate, he let his mask come
down. There was hot Luigi eatingthe crispy Mac hash brown

(03:13:54):
Italian
Christmas. Italian Christmaskiller.
I listened to Luigi as manifestothis morning three times, and I
cried, honestly. It's beautiful,and I agree with him. Whoa, the

(03:14:15):
radicals love Luigi. He's reallyquite the ham. He gained a
million followers on x andInstagram now all the normal
people hope he gets what hedeserves. Let's hope they grow
the book at him a lifetime, hewill serve Louisiana killer King
and edging
the Italian Christmas killers.

(03:14:39):
Initial 827,
followers. On Instagram grewexponentially Monday, as we
watched by three o'clock, morethan 32,000 an hour later,
53,000
by five o'clock Monday, morethan 71,000
Hey, Luigi, where you going withthat gun in your hand? Take.

(03:15:00):
The gun leave thecannolis.org/n.
A
Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah,happy new years, the show is
over. You.
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