1772 - "Op Day" - No Agenda Show

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Yeah, we'll do it.
Adam Curry, John C.
DeVora.
It's Thursday, June 12th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1772.
This is no agenda.
Watching democracy die.
And broadcasting live from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number
6 in the morning, everybody.

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I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all
awaiting All-Kings Day on Saturday on June
12th.
I'm John C.
DeVorak.
It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
It's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable.
No, it's not.
It's completely believable and just fantastic to watch

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the M5M, everybody trying to get everyone all
psyched up and ready for No King's Day.
And you know, just it's like wag the
dog in real time.
It's amazing what is taking place, right before
our very eyes.
Do you know the ACLU of Texas contributed

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like three million dollars toward this event?
Oh yeah, of course.
What is the end to some of the
other ACLU's?
I thought the ACLU took that money that
people gave them so they could defend people
for civil liberties, not to do protests, not
to print signs on the 250th anniversary of

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the Army, which is really what they're trying
to downplay here.
They're trying to make our Army look like
a bunch of schmucks by doing this thing
on the exact same day.
No, it's too long.
But do you remember in 2017, I have
the clip but it's too long, I called
the ACLU when they were...

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Oh yes, you actually made a fuss about
this on the show.
Yeah, when they were organizing the protest because
Trump had done Muslim travel ban, which was
not a Muslim travel ban, and I called
them up and said, so, because I've always
supported the ACLU.
And they're like, no, no, no, we're organizing
these protests.

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But is that in your charter?
Is that what you're supposed to do?
Well, yeah.
Oh, okay.
Well, no, I'm not supporting you anymore.
Now, what's interesting is that even the people
who somehow have been psyoped into this whole
idea of Trump is throwing out legal people,

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just separating families, ripping four-year-old girls
from behind their school desks, they are now
recognize, well, the people who are protesting, they're
just problem people.
By the way, they're like Marxists and socialists.
Yeah, that's exactly who the problem is.

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Yeah, of course it is.
And it's the unions, it's the Socialist Workers
Party, they're the ones who are sending people
out.
It's actually not the unions as much as
it is one specific union.
Which specific union?
The SEIU.
SEIU, yes.
Which is the?
Service Employers International Union.
And do they have illegals in their union?

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They must.
So the SEIU is a fallback.
When I helped organize the Bay Area Air
Pollution Control District Union, I was a Democrat
back in the day.
Yes.
Sorry to hear that.
And we had gone through, we knew we
couldn't get enough votes to unionize, and we
ended up with SEIU as our base union

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because the other guys bailed out Cal, there's
CalPERS or some Cal, a very big union
that was powerful in California, they told us,
nah, get lost.
And some other union told us to get
lost.
And SEIU jumped in, yeah, we'll do it.
And I got to take some of their
training, some years of training.

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Oh, you took some of the, oh, you
took some of the training, all right.
From the, yeah, the union itself, it's pretty,
it's pretty bad.
So.
In my memoir.
So.
Ladies and gentlemen, John C.
Dvorak has been dead for 20 years, but
he promises his memoir is coming along with
the vinegar book.
It's coming.
Don't worry, it's happening.

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So are they, are they truly commies?
I mean, is the SEIU a bunch of
communists or, I mean, why are they doing
this?
I wouldn't say they're Marxists necessarily, but they're
pretty close.
Definitely workers control the means of production.
The main emphasis in some of the training
is, hey, if you're not specifically supposed to

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pick up that screw that that guy dropped,
you don't pick it up.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, but, but I mean, they are sending
people out to protest illegal immigrants, just illegals
aliens in favor of illegal immigrants.
Yes.
Yes.

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Yes.
Thank you.
But it just doesn't make sense.
However.
What is it?
It makes sense to me that I was
watching somebody say I didn't get it on
today's show, but somebody's there's a lot of
clips about, uh, I guess it's Christie is
her name.
Christie Walton.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who's in the, you know, it's like, Oh,
she's just another rich chick who's, you know,
inherited a bunch of money and she's got

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a guilty conscience.
And then I'm guy points on his video.
This is so Walton can keep their cheap
employees.
Well not just, I mean, if you look
at no King's day, it's not just about
ice and immigration.
So the way I look at it from
the Walton family perspective is tariffs in China.
They have huge factories.
Half of Wuhan is, is Walmart.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
So I think they're just mad at Trump
and this is what they do.
Now I have some, uh, this is a,
a very short boots on the ground.
There's so much material.
But when I heard this, I'm like, yeah,
I think a lot of these middle, middle
class Karen, which doesn't have to be white,
just middle class Karen's in Los Angeles.

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So here's just three quick little, uh, little
snippets, man on the street.
But the last one really, really says it
all about why they're really protesting what they're
really mad about.
I'm not okay with this.
I'm not okay with people getting taken from
their jobs and being taken from when they're
going into the federal building for their appointments
to do this the right way.

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We don't feel safe.
We're standing up for the children that can't
stand up for themselves or their parents.
We need immigrant workers in this city really
badly.
We've just gone through devastating fires.
We've lost 14,000 structures.
And if you look at who builds this
city, it's immigrants.
There it is.
Who's going to build our homes back with

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no one will want to be in construction.
And this is exactly what an actual Karen,
isn't whoopies real name, Karen will be Goldberg.
Yeah, it is actually.
Yeah.
She's a real Karen.
So listen to what she says at the
end of this clip after they do some
pontificating this, I'm sorry.
It's from the view ice agents.
Those are nonpartisan actors.

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I think this is the conservative girl for
the most part, who signed up for jobs
have served under multiple administrations.
They did not necessarily sign up to be
doing this and they're following an order of
the commander in chief.
And we could say they could all, I
guess, resign and mask tomorrow is the bait
to start demonizing those individuals as opposed to,
but I think it's very important to remember,

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it's a commander in chief that's made these
decisions.
They're following order.
Yeah.
It is.
And you know, think back y'all.
Where have you heard that before?
1930s.
I'm just following orders.
Oh 1930s.
Hitler.
By my commander in chief.
But again, can I just say, I want
to finish.
No, no.
Cause I, because No, no.
Cause whoopies got something important to say here.
Pay attention.
Karen's coming.
This is my point.

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We don't want to be what they were.
A person in service in the, in the
armed services always follows their commander in chief.
That's the way it's supposed to be.
But what is happening here is out of
sync because the commander in chief is not
following the directions of the constitution.

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Well, we'll get to that in a minute.
So we have a bit of an issue.
And also just as we're going, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no.
Here we go.
Just want to say, you know, construction places,
you're going to have a harder time finding
people who are going to be able to
come and do your house.
Who are they going to get to pick
all the fruit and the vegetables?
Because Americans don't want to do, we know

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that the farmers are saying the Americans don't
want to do that.
And the tariffs on top of that is
going to make everything so expensive.
That too.
But getting people, food is going to be
sitting and rotting because there's no one to
grab it, is my point.
We'll be right back.
This is the most elitist take on this
ever.
No one's going to build my house.

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No one's going to pick my fruit.
Who's going to clean my linens?
Oh, let me clutch my pearls.
Have you ever heard of economics, Karen?
If the fruit is rotting, they will offer
more money for people to come and pick
it up.
It's not just going to go away.
This is this is the the basic system
that we have in place.

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It's how capitalism works.
It's how capitalism works, of course.
But oh, no.
And it's so elitist.
Who's going to...
It's unbelievably arrogant.
Yeah.
Elitist and arrogant.
And Americans won't do this.
What?
American?
I have a guy, I've got Paul, who
was literally shoveling shit out of my septic

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tank today.
Americans do this stuff.
And you know what?
Charges me a good penny for it, too.
Because that's how it goes.
I don't want to do it myself.
I don't know how to do it.
So this is just bullcrap.
And all the...
Oh, yes.
Oh, Whoopi, you tell him.
Whoopi, no one can clean my house.
No one can build my house.
Oh, my fruit is rotting.
Oh, but I'm going to do it.
Oh, my avocados.

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Please.
The worst, though.
The worst.
And I had to pull two clips, is
the liberal intellectual elites of Pivot.
I've stayed away from getting Cara and Scott
clips, but I had to pull two clips.
Because the professor...
You needed intervention.

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Where were you when I needed that intervention?
It's been a while since I've pulled clips
from Pivot.
It's still my hate.
But listen, I get through it and like,
OK, I got it.
But they are influential in elitist Democrat circles.
Not as influential as they thought they were.
Because if you recall, their contract was up

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for renegotiation.
And Professor Scott was like, well, we're going
to go make hundreds of millions of dollars
like Joe Rogan because we're that good.
And they renegotiated and they have all kinds
of caveats and they can do special things.
They got a crappy deal because they're not
worth it.
Podcasts just aren't worth that much.

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So they overthought their influence.
But without a doubt, they make more money
than we do.
So here is the professor's take on what
is happening.
It's a doozy.
I've called this a complete overreach by a
desperate despot.
Your thoughts?
Well, I can do some alliteration.
A complete overreach by a desperate despot.

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Your thoughts?
Well, I've been called hysterical for a while
now comparing or drawing similarities between America right
now and 30s Germany.
And you don't have to be Hitler to
borrow methods and worst practices from his playbook.
I would love to hear Scott, Professor Scott,
do a podcast with Brett's wife.

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What's his name?
Heather.
Well, what do you think, Heather?
Well, Scott, let me tell you.
Okay, Heather.
And that is when tanks roll through cities,
it doesn't feel like strength.
It feels like a funeral for civil society.
Germany in the 30s didn't collapse overnight.

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It slid into tyranny by normalizing soldiers where
citizens used to stand.
You know, early Nazi propaganda decided, and we're
doing the same thing, we have real problems
overseas.
You know, there are still Russian, you know,
Russia is still invading Europe.
Russia's invading Europe, John, be careful.

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There's real significant issues around China, Pakistan and
India could could eventually digress to a nuclear
conflict.
Iran is.
In case you didn't get the memo, President
Trump stopped that war.
He said so himself.
Trying to spin up reactors.
But if you look at and again, I
think I just this has so many echoes
of 30s Germany, early Nazi propaganda emphasized that

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early 30s Germany, John, was it like this
where I wasn't there to know.
But I will say this.
I'm liking this for a reason that's not
wouldn't on the surface wouldn't seem.
Well, why would you like this?
I honestly believe these two and Scott in
particular are believing their own bullcrap.

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Yeah.
And they're actually having they're going to have
nervous breakdowns or something.
This is not healthy.
No, no, it's it's he's and he barely
opened it because I saw the YouTube video
version of this because, of course, we've got
to do video version, Scott.
And he barely opens his mouth when he
talks, he talks like this and it has

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he has he also has no lips.
No, I believe this is really like early
30s slit.
This is like a snake.
The Scott Scott talks through a slit like
a snake.
Germany's problems were due to internal saboteurs, communists,
Jews, immigrants, and that today, if you look
at this rhetoric, they're blaming immigrants, academics, protesters,

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journalists.
And there's kind of the same playbook here.
When you have a government who turns its
military force inward against journalists, migrants or citizens
who believe and exercising the right to protest
in a civil, peaceful manner and justice, you're
not defending democracy.
You're rehearsing for something much darker.

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So it's it's not the protests themselves.
It's not what's going.
This is another step towards normalizing an attempt
to rebrand militarization as patriotism.
So I just love that.
You're right.
They they are they are sniffing their farts
and like smells great.
And this clip second clip is much shorter.

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But man, they bring up a doozy here.
He can try.
He can try.
That's what he's doing.
He's trying desperate.
He's a desperate.
That's why I called him the complete overreach
of a desperate desperate.
Every move he's making lately to me is
both despotic, incompetent and also insecure in a
lot of ways.
But we'll see.
What you just outlined is is my vision

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of how you would restore and heal America.
OK, question for you.
How do you think when the Democrats clearly
come back into control because they believe this
once Trump is gone, everyone's going to fall
down.
What do you think his vision is for
restoring America?
But could it be to bring back some

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programs or to know we have to heal?
We have to.
How did we heal?
How do we heal by stringing up all
the Republicans is my vision of how you
would restore and heal America.
That you'd have moral clarity and have the
effectively like a Nuremberg trial.
OK, you knew this was a lie.

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You nailed it.
Nuremberg trial.
String them up.
Hang them.
Noose them all.
Let's hang them up and have the effectively
like a Nuremberg trial.
You said, OK, you knew this was a
lie.
You purposely tried to create violence and mayhem.
You purposely tried to overrun our elections.
You purposely committed fraud.
You purposely leveraged our international sway to enrich

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your children.
I love the idea of a stream of
perp walks and moral clarity around this stuff
that America's laws have a long memory.
I love that.
That's a fantasy of mine.
I dream of that at night.
My fear, Kara, is that there's actually a
lot of people who like what's going on
right now.
Oh, man.
Jacques Hughes.
Where was the Republicans Nuremberg trials?

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Where was the Nuremberg trial for the covid
vaccine?
Where was the Nuremberg trial for the covid
vaccine?
Where were all those for covid where those
Nuremberg trials didn't happen just to set the
record straight.
And then I'll let you roll.
This is from the John Batchelor show, which
I only get as a podcast.
We're doing podcast people.
John, you who's from Berkeley and Civitas Institute
in Austin, of all places, explains the law

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Title 10 under which this is taking place.
The president can call out the National Guard
in case of an invasion.
And then it says second condition or there's
a rebellion.
But then there's third condition.
The president is unable to execute the laws
of the United States.
So any one of those three, this is

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the media narrative has ignored this third provision.
This third provision is obviously the one that's
at stake here.
Has can President Trump legitimately find that the
execution of the laws of the United States
here, the immigration laws in Los Angeles is
being blocked?

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He can't execute them.
And if he can't, then the law allows
him to call out the National Guard.
Bingo.
That's it.
Yeah.
That's nails it.
Yeah.
And so, you know, you is one of
those guys.
You, you, you, you use.
Use the guy.
If I'm not mistaken, is the one who
came up with the rationale for torture.

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Yes, he did.
No, was that Bush?
Was that you?
No.
That was.
Yeah, I think it was.
No, it was a different guy.
It was another.
No guy.
You is pretty good.
He's he's one of those guys.
He's one of those guys who knows how
to bend the law.
Him and Dershowitz.
But this is not bending the law.
It's no, it's not.
No.
I mean, interpreting the law in a very
strong.

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Yeah, it's not bending at all.
It's actually finding the rules and then applying
them.
But you know, so when you keep hearing
it's against the Constitution, he's not upholding the
Constitution.
That is, in fact, the opposite.
One more clip, because I just love this
doozy from CNN, CNN, who you'd think would
probably not favor President Trump or any of

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his policies or any of this.
They did a little poll amongst legal immigrants,
immigrant residents and citizens of the United States.
Surprising results.
Yeah.
Let's just sort of start off on the
fact that immigrant citizens, immigrant voters, foreign born
voters have gone tremendously to the right on
this issue in twenty twenty four and twenty

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twenty five versus where they were in twenty
twenty closest to a trustworn immigration.
You go back to twenty twenty.
Democrats get this held a thirty two point
lead on this issue.
Immigrant voters were in the Democratic camp.
Jump forward to twenty twenty four.
Twenty twenty five.
Look at that shift.
A 40 point shift to the right among
immigrant voters.
Republicans now lead on this issue by eight

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points over Democrats, more so than any other
group that I could find.
The group of voters who became more hawkish
on immigration were, in fact, immigrants themselves.
Immigrants were registered to vote in this country.
Boom.
All right.
Drop it there.
By the way, you're right.
I was thinking Alberto Gonzalez, who was co
-author with John.

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No, Gonzalez is a lightweight.
Well, John, you you're right, John, you you.
So this is well, I have I have
a take on this that I want to
present.
Oh, yes.
Because I think there's dirty tricks going on.
I know dirty tricks is gambling, gambling going
on at the protest.
And I think it's at a level that

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we haven't seen since the Grady and Dick
Tuck during the Nixon administration, where he had
had these guys that were barely alive.
But yeah, yeah.
Well, there was there was some great stuff
that used to be done.
And it's been kind of passed over.
And I think Trump's behind a lot of
this.

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And OK, I'm I'm I love it when
you say Trump's behind a lot of this.
I'm like, yeah, believable.
Lay it on me.
I want to hear what's going on.
This this has to be about the midterms.
Everything's about the midterms, right?
Everything's eventually.
But yeah, well, that's where it's all they
have to.
But this is a long strategy.
And I don't.
And I think there's denial of possible, plausible
deniability.

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There's no way this is going to be
tracked to Trump.
This is just a thesis.
I can't prove it.
It just seems a little suspicious.
And you get hints of it when you
start listening to some tick tockers.
Now I want to start off with this
to organize.
This is different.
But this is the I want to start
off with this, with what I see is

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going on with tick tock.
They're using tick tock.
Yes.
In much the same way as that the
mainstream used to be used or that Sinclair
Broadcasting used to use, where everybody said the
same thing.
Somehow they've gotten to the influencers.
And I want to play these jaywalking.
It's easy.
You just call it the agency.
There's agencies for the influencers.

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You call them up.
You give them a script.
Here is a series of clips where they
which are bogus clips.
But this is the talk jaywalking clips.
Being in a country that you're in illegally
is a civil offense, not a criminal one.
You know what else is a civil offense?
Jaywalking.
And being undocumented is not a criminal offense.

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It's a civil one.
And if you've ever jaywalked, congratulations, because you've
also committed a civil offense.
Have you ever sped over the speed limit?
Have you ever drank or smoked underage?
Have you ever drank and then driven a
car?
What about jaywalking?
Being undocumented in America is a civil offense.
It's not a criminal one.

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It's the same caliber of crime as a
traffic offense.
Just a reminder in case anyone forgot, being
undocumented is a civil offense, not a criminal
one.
If you've so much as littered on public
property, I never want to hear, oh, but
they broke a law as a justification for
your hate.
Just for the record, being here undocumented is
not a criminal offense.

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It's a civil one.
So that means if you've ever jaywalked, you
too have committed a civil offense, okay?
And if you're really concerned about criminals being
in this country, then I have to ask,
like, why did you vote for one?
Well, not to interrupt you, but I did
look up this civil offense because I knew

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you had this clip.
Yes, I did too.
And here's what I came up with.
Civil offense is unlawful entry or presence in
the United States, violates immigration laws, specifically the
Immigration and Nationality Act, the INA.
This is handled as a civil matter through
administrative process like deportation or removal proceedings conducted
by immigration authorities, e.g. Immigration and Customs

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Enforcement or ICE being undocumented or overstaying a
visa generally does not result in criminal prosecution
on its own.
So, but it's great.
This is a very interesting way to program
completely ignorant people who have not had any
education.
And by the way, jaywalking, I looked it

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up too, jaywalking is a criminal offense in
most jurisdictions.
Oh, interesting.
That's even better.
So they have this wrong.
Now, in California, while I was researching that,
and I also found the criminal part of
the illegal immigration is how you entered the
country.
That could be a felony or a misdemeanor.
Yes, that can be a criminal offense.

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But when you're just floating around, you're, yeah,
they're right about that, but they're not really
right.
This is just specious.
In fact, I have, ooh, specious.
I have that illegal entry, entering the U
.S. without inspection or authorization is a misdemeanor
under 8 U.S.C. 1325, punishable by
fines or up to six months in prison

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for the first offense.
Illegal re-entry after deportation is a felony
with penalties of up to two years in
prison or more if the individual has a
criminal history.
And so while looking this up curiously, and
I don't think this is generally known, and
I still like to find out that some

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Vietnamese assemblymen in California, they put a bill
in play that made it legal, in fact,
they called it decriminalization because it was a
criminal act, the decriminalization of jaywalking in California.
Signed by Newsome.
I remember this somehow, yeah.
Signed by Newsome, and it goes to the,

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at least from what I can tell, it
gets to the point where you can just
walk against the light into the street.
Really?
So what's the point of the light?
No, screw the light.
So, I mean, this is unbelievable, but this
kind of propaganda is like, OK, this is
what you're going to do now.

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You're going to take these dumb women, and
I will say many of them are not,
and I can use this term, not unattractive.
They weren't the blue haired nose ring women.
But they are all over socialized and undereducated.
Well, they're just, they're dummies.
And obviously you're right.
There's an agency called up the main group.

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There's probably, I don't know what they had
to pay for this, but these girls are
probably getting, they're all young.
750 bucks.
They're probably getting.
750 bucks, I'm getting.
I think that's probably what it is.
That's kind of high.
I think you can get them to do
it for five.
But anyway.
Can we get him to say, can we
get him to talk about, this is basically
prostitution, by the way.
Can we get him to talk about the

(26:13):
no agenda show for five?
You know, and not to mention it, it
might not be a bad idea.
Why spend on Facebook ads if you can
get these gals.
So I run into these other clips, they're
talking about that.
You played the clip of the guy from
CNN who goes crazy.
He's great, by the way.
Yeah.
And so I got these two clips that

(26:33):
I have to play.
This is the legal immigrant rant from a
woman, legal immigrant rant.
I am a legal immigrant and I want
to tell you something.
I'm disgusted by what people from other countries
like Mexico are doing right now in my
new country.

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I came from Mexico.
I came legally.
I have worked all my life here to
get what I have.
I have never asked for a penny to
the government.
I didn't come here to get something from
the government.
I came for an opportunity and I got
it.
And I have the American dream.
What about all of those people protesting in

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California and New York?
What are they doing?
They are burning the city.
If you don't like to be deported and
you want to stay here, you have to
have your best behavior.
Not the worst behavior.
You think that we want you here?
With that behavior of burning cars, burning the

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entire city?
Why?
Why do we talk to the authorities on
your behalf?
There is no meaning on that.
And for the people that are defending these
violent attackers, people that don't deserve to be
here, shame on you.
Shame on you because you're supposed to talk

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and to tell them the truth.
You're not supposed to line up with them.
You're supposed to tell them, go to your
country.
You are waving the flag of another country
that you love?
Go.
You don't need to be here.
You don't deserve to be here.
You don't deserve another opportunity in this country

(28:23):
because apparently you don't love this country like
I do.
So go away.
Oh man, where's the national anthem playing on
that?
I know, she's too much.
I'm going to sue her.
Now we have, this is my last clip
before I tell you my theory.
Okay, I'm excited.
No, that's not that great.
But this is the Mexican flag dude.

(28:44):
Now this guy, this guy is a...
This dude, this dude is good.
Did you see him?
What, the guy with the chest?
Yeah, oh yeah, sure.
The guy looks, if he's not MS, he
doesn't have enough testes.
He is the iconic image of this peaceful
protest.
That's the way I see it.
Yeah, and he is not happy about what
he's seeing.
So let me get this straight, just so

(29:07):
I could clarify it.
You don't want to go back to Mexico.
You're protesting to stay away from Mexico, but
you're waving the Mexican flag and you're waving
it with pride.
You're waving it in the United States, the
country you're trying to stay in, the country
you don't want to leave, but yet you're

(29:27):
waving the Mexican flag with pride.
Okay, that seems normal to you.
That seems logical.
That's not stupid at all.
None of that's stupid.
All right, you guys, you guys are an
embarrassment to the Mexican culture and to the
United States culture.
You guys are an embarrassment to everybody around
you and you should be ashamed of yourself.

(29:51):
Do better.
Was that the Mexican flag, dude?
Yeah.
Huh?
So that, no, that was the guy bitching
about the Mexican flag.
So here's what's going on.
I see it over and over again.
There's no way that Trump somehow, dirty tricking
it, is not behind the Mexican flags.

(30:12):
Those too many Mexican flags, they're all brand
new.
They're all over the place.
Nobody's been picked up or interviewed holding one
of them.
There's a few jokers wearing them as scarves,
but for the most part, the Mexican flag
has been planted just for this purpose.
That Mexican flag is showing up way too

(30:33):
much in all these protests and it is
a scam and I think it's a beauty.
Too many Mexican flags dot com, everybody.
Too many Mexican flags.
This is bullcrap.
There is no way.
I think you're right.
They're all brand new flags, dude.
Something came along.
And the joke is they're all made in
China.

(30:53):
That's the best part.
Well, that is funny and it is probably
true.
But the guy with the motorcycle and he's
driving around with the Mexican flag and he's
going around in a circle and the guy
on top of the car waving the Mexican
flag and they got that shot all over
the place and a lot of them posed
with that guy on the car with the
Mexican flag surrounded by Mexican flags.

(31:14):
Give me a break, people.
Yeah, I think you're spot on.
I think you're spot on about that.
And they're brand new.
It's not like, hey, mom, I'm going to
take the flag with me today.
It's not like that.
Yeah, yeah, well, brilliant.
It is.
I thought it was genius.
And the M5M and everybody, they don't know
what they're flat footed.

(31:35):
They're so stupid.
Well, they have a job to do.
You know, they have a job.
So I just have a couple of minutes
here.
This is meant to be interrupted again of
just people out on the streets of Los
Angeles.
That's a good one.
What?
I mean, you gave me the permission to
interrupt.
I'm going to anyway.

(31:56):
This is meant to be interrupted.
But you're telling me in advance you're not
going to get irked at me.
No, it's very important.
This clip is made for you to interrupt.
I want to make sure that you weren't
like being on your best behavior.
Or you were going to make sure that
I was going to actually listen.
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
People with big, heavy hammers pounding the concrete
and pounding curbs, pounding and breaking up and

(32:18):
handing these big chunks of concrete to people.
And they were taking that concrete, going up
on bridges and dropping it into the roof
of a car.
They were throwing it at our police.
They were throwing it at our soldiers that
are there.
I could tell you there were certain areas
of that.
I forgot to tell you there's some Trump
stuff in here, too.
Los Angeles, as you could have called it
an insurrection.

(32:39):
It was terrible.
But these are paid insurrectionists.
These are paid troublemakers.
They get money.
This weekend was marked with absolute and total
violence, brutal repression and attacks, coordinated attacks against
our community.
For us as indigenous people to these lands,
to this continent, this is nothing new.
The military going after us is nothing new.

(33:00):
So this is part of the narrative that's
out there.
Hey, man, we own this place.
We were here before you.
There was no war about it.
It's ours.
Advocate for violence.
But by the way, yes, there was not
only a war about it, but we also
paid Mexico for a bunch of the property
that we took.
So there was a war and reparations.

(33:21):
I mean, we own this.
This is not some bull.
This is bull crap.
This may actually be also a sign of
course, it is brutal violence against our people
and kidnapping mothers and fathers from children is
violent when they do things like that.
We have every right, every historic right to
defend our communities by any ways that we

(33:42):
can, and we're going to continue to do
so.
Historic right, John.
They have a historic right to defend our
communities.
We own this place.
And by the way, after years of we
thank the indigenous original owners of this place
in California for letting us be here and
letting us have this meeting.
Yeah.
No wonder people start to think this way.

(34:02):
Remember that California was part of Mexico.
All of the Southwest is Mexico.
So the roots are really deep in that
region.
And what they're saying is no, not in
our community.
We don't agree with the term illegal.
We're undocumented.
We've been here for thousands of years before
you guys showed up.
How old is that guy?

(34:24):
I don't know.
He's in his 40s, I think.
He's a thousand years old.
Everything.
We're anti-capitalist.
We think socialism does work, real socialism.
Is there a country we can look to
to kind of model the socialism idea?
The only model would be Soviet Union the

(34:46):
first four years.
You're in the wrong country, bro.
Come on.
I know where you got this clip, but
I saw this clip.
No, I can tell you where it came
from.
It's Jesse Watters without Jesse Watters.
Oh, Jesse Watters played.
He's got some of the better producers on
Fox.
He may have the best show on Fox,

(35:08):
including Gutfeld.
But what happens is, you know, I hear
the lunch ladies here.
You know, they're very worried.
Oh, you know, the protests, the riots is
going to be here on Saturday.
No kings.
There's 50 Democrats in Fredericksburg.
I'm sure they're going to be out there
protesting.
No kings, you know, whatever.
But the way it plays on television, which

(35:30):
is what everyone just gets sucked into.
And, you know, just looking at the quad,
except for the 787 crash, which we'll talk
about later.
Oh, you didn't hear the 787 crash?
Are you being facetious?
I don't know this.
Oh, yeah.
747 coming from India to Gatwick crashed on

(35:53):
takeoff.
I think there's one survivor.
But the 747.
No, 787.
OK, well, you said 747.
No, I said 787.
OK, well, 787, which is a nice plane,
has never had an incident like this.
Crashing Gatwick?
No, no, it was it was leaving India.

(36:15):
And and so what?
And of course, there's tons of video of
it.
So it takes off and then it just
kind of floats down and crashes and burns
with 50 tons of jet fuel on it
and into a hospital building, which I'm surprised
the hospital building didn't collapse unto itself.
Sorry, maybe a bit too early, but I
had to say it.
And, you know, everyone's like.

(36:37):
Too soon?
Yeah, everyone's like, he didn't have his flaps,
he had his flaps up, his wheels were
down.
So first of all, nobody knows nothing right
now.
But the lone survivor supposedly said there was
a loud bang upon takeoff, which could mean
a compressor stall.
The ram air turbine appears to have come

(36:57):
out.
That's a little a little kind of fan
that drops down beneath the fuselage to generate
electricity in the case of an electrical outage.
So that could be responsible for a whole
bunch of things.
My guys on the inside, they say they
think it might be one of those Windows

(37:19):
95 crashed on takeoff and it blew everything
out and they couldn't restore it, which is
that's kind of frightening because all this stuff
is fly by wire.
It's all computerized.
But I doubt this is pilot error.
Yeah, it's it was 42 degrees centigrade.
So the possibility exists.
We've got a topic, by the way.

(37:40):
Yeah.
But thanks to me, you said I could
interrupt.
Yeah.
But you so you think it might you
think it might be a software failure?
Yes.
Yeah.
Now, who makes this jet?
Let me think about the company name.
Yeah, this is this is not good for
Boeing.

(38:01):
It's not good for those 290 people, their
families either, to be honest about it.
And it's a bad day for aviation.
Day wrecker.
Day wrecker.
Well, Boeing has got to be fixed.
Yeah.
But, you know, everybody's on TV.
Well, you know, I didn't I saw only
the slats, the flaps weren't out.
The gear wasn't up, which all true.

(38:21):
But what is the cause?
Is it because I love this one?
Well, the pilot clearly he pulled the flaps
up instead of the gear.
Oh, please.
You know, these are the two knobs in
every aircraft that have remained the same.
As far as I know, I have not
flown a 787 in the cockpit.
But the flaps is an is a lever

(38:43):
that you go from down to up.
And the lever is a flat piece of
plastic that resembles a flap.
And the gear is a lever that has
a rubber wheel on it.
So when you grab it, you're like, that's
a wheel.
So that seems highly unlikely that that happened.

(39:03):
But, you know, you know, everyone's, oh, I
got something to say.
I'm an expert in aviation.
I have my private pilot's license.
But I'm glad it happened during the show
so we don't have to deal with it.
So anyway, let's go back because we have
this big protest coming up on Saturday.
No kings, no kings.
And, you know, this is a lame protest,

(39:26):
by the way.
I should mention this up front.
No king.
Who cares?
What is no kings?
Well, it was already scheduled.
Now he's Hitler.
Now he's king.
Is he Hitler, which is a dictator who
is elected dictator?
Or is he a king, which is a
monarch?
Make up your minds.
Well, it's also, you know, there's a lot

(39:49):
of groups who are grabbing onto this, which
is going to screw it up because Winston
-Salem, for instance, they're calling it Queen's Day
rising, no kings.
And they're adding trans to the whole issue.
So that'll...
What?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's going to screw everything up.
Yeah.

(40:09):
They're adding, oh, this is, well, maybe that's
also an op to do that.
That would be pretty smart.
Oh, man.
Everything's an op with you.
And you're not wrong.
Today's op day because of this flag thing.
When I kept seeing it, I said...
Today is, it's op day, everybody.
And then we had the topper to make
me really think in terms of op, was
listening to these dumb chicks going on and

(40:31):
on about civil versus jaywalking.
Yeah, jaywalking.
Yeah, yeah.
Let me see.
We have, oh, okay.
Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago.
This is the moment when Democrat politicians like
Gavin Newsom, everybody's seen him.
Arrest me then.
Come on, Tom Homan, arrest me.

(40:53):
Um, so everyone's got big cojones all of
a sudden.
Mayor Brandon Johnson says it's cruel and unconstitutional.
Right now in our country, there's no check
and balance.
It doesn't exist right now.
Violent class.
I think it's checks and balances, Mr. Mayor.
But all right.
There's no check and balance.

(41:14):
Your checkbook, what is going on?
Right now in our country, there's no check
and balance.
It doesn't exist right now.
Violent clashes between heavily armed immigration and customs
enforcement agents and Los Angeles protesters creating alarm
in Chicago with word of an impending enforcement

(41:35):
action.
The federal agents have been informed that they
have 48 hours to stand by and be
ready to deploy.
The mayor's chief of staff planning for what
many fear will be a chaotic and dangerous
apprehension of undocumented Chicago residents.
There will be tactical teams.
There will be many tanks.
There will be other tools that they use

(41:58):
in which they plan to do raids, as
we saw in Los Angeles.
Protests against the ICE raid, similar to what
we witnessed locally last night, another concern for
the mayor and Chicago police seeking to preserve
public safety and people's rights to assemble and
protest.

(42:19):
Which is the funny thing, because I don't
think anyone has a problem with, if you
want to protest, you want to carry your
flags around, that's fine.
But that's not what it is.
That's not what this is.
And there's no King's Day.
Remember we talked about the 50-51 organization?
50, so 5-0-5-0-1.

(42:41):
So from another podcast, because you can't get
anything from television.
This is true.
Right side up with Nivea Souza, and she
delves into, so it's a podcast, so bear
with me.
She'll delve into what 50-51 is.
50-51 movement.
It is a political campaign that launched earlier
this year in response to the new administration

(43:02):
and their policies.
It all started on Reddit.
From one Reddit user, all of this came
to be.
The movement has rapidly gained momentum.
They are now protesting across the nation, causing
a whole stir and a lot of conspiracies.
The 50-51's core objectives are what you
would probably expect, an investigation into Elon Musk
when he was still with the administration, all

(43:22):
of Trump's appointees, impeaching Donald Trump, reinstatement of
DEI initiatives, protections of LGBTQ plus rights and
minority groups, reinstatement of aid to Ukraine, lifting
tariffs, et cetera, et cetera.
The movement officially launched in early February of
this year in response to the inauguration.
They had 80 different protests in all 50
states.
They continued to protest in February.
They had Not My President's Day.

(43:43):
Thousands of people nationwide protested the administration's policies.
In March, they did March 4th for democracy.
On April 5th, they had one of the
biggest coordinated protests across the country, the biggest
of this year.
They're hands-off protests.
They were in collaboration with 150 different organizations,
including ACLU and the Women's March.
There was 1,400 different protests that broke

(44:04):
out across all 50 states.
An estimate of 3 to 5 million people
participated in these protests.
According to the protesters, they involved a coalition
of over 169 progressive labor union, pro-democracy,
civil rights, LGBTQ plus, and women's rights groups.
This was a huge deal.
And I live somewhere where you don't see
protesters.
I live really rural.
I did not know this was even going

(44:25):
on because there was such little media coverage.
Tell me what democracy looks like.
This is what democracy looks like.
Tell me what democracy looks like.
This is what democracy looks like.
I would just like to talk about the
fact that this lady at the megaphone, leading
this, chanting about democracy, she's decked out in
everything pro-Palestinian.

(44:48):
The irony.
Yeah, exactly.
So what the M5M does, though, is they
love this.
All they want is video of burning cars,
burning Trump effigies.
That's all they want.
And Rachel Maddow, I know I do need

(45:08):
an intervention.
I apologize.
She could not promote for her whole show.
I just got a couple of clips.
She kept saying, no kings, June 14th, everywhere.
No kings, June 14th.
Everybody, come on out.
June 14th, no kings everywhere.
When Trump issued his order to federalize the
National Guard over the objections of California's government

(45:30):
this weekend, that order was not specific to
Los Angeles.
It was not specific to California.
That order that he issued.
He's coming for you.
Is something that he could use to send
National Guard troops anywhere, or even active duty
forces.
Now he's sending 700 Marines, supposedly, from the
Marine Corps base at 29 Palms.
They're going to come and kill you.

(45:52):
And that is a portrait of weakness.
Weakness.
That's the best.
They keep going on with this.
He's weak.
Insecure is another one, which is like all
the people that you've ever seen.
I don't see him as insecure.
Is it time for the Trump rotation again?

(46:12):
Do we need to?
I think that some things could be added
to it.
I think we need to listen to the
Trump.
Well, maybe you're right.
Maybe bring the new stuff in because insecure
wasn't on the rotation.
Let's see what's in the Trump rotation from
how many years ago now?
Is it seven years ago?
I have my list.
You might want to see if there's anything
I left out.
This is the Trump rotation.

(46:33):
There's two categories.
There's the regular and then there's the criminal.
But here we go.
Ready?
Yeah.
Liar.
Incompetent.
Unhinged.
Illegitimate president.
White supremacist.
Racist.
Bully.
Immature.
Russian agent.
Narcissist.
Mean.
Long ties.
Insane.
Tweets too much.
Small hands.
Small penis.

(46:53):
Big red button.
Criminal.
Mean.
Racist.
Immature.
Thin skin.
Runs the mob.
Has no money.
Unstable.
Fatter than 239 pounds.
Bankrupt.
25th amendment should be instituted.
He hates women.
Misogynist.
Holds grudges forever.

(47:14):
Placed golf a lot.
Obstruction of justice.
Money laundering.
And clown.
John, no wonder we're making America white again.
Yeah, I think it needs to be updated.
You're right.
I didn't even hear.
Yeah, well, let's go back to Rachel Maddow
for a moment.

(47:34):
All right, that is what you get when
you have a supposed leader, a supposed strong
man, who can't figure out how to get
the support of his people.
And he knows it.
What?
He can't get the support of his people
and he knows it.
That is what you get when you have
a weak president, an unpopular president, who sees
the people are against him, who can't defend

(47:55):
his actions, who is losing support over time
and not gaining it, even on the issues
where he thinks he's supposed to be strongest.
This is a president who has no other
ideas.
And no skills to get him out of
this political pickle that he is in.
And who has therefore- Political pickle.
Right to the end.
And has decided that if the people are

(48:17):
against him, well, then he will bludgeon them.
He will literally bludgeon them into not protesting
anymore.
Because the protests against him are working.
Oh.
And growing.
And they're right.
It's working.
Now, let's get into the promotional part here.
And you ain't seen nothing yet because-
Yeah, it's coming.
Among other things, what is this?

(48:37):
This is no King's Week.
It's no King's Week.
No, it's a week.
It's a week all of a sudden.
When did it become a week?
I don't know.
I didn't get the memo, but it's no
King's Week.
That's this week.
Remember, this upcoming weekend, Saturday, June 14th, is
likely to be the largest set of protests
yet against Trump and the Trump administration.
And Trump knows it's coming.

(49:00):
You remember that really giant day of protests
against Trump back on April 5th?
Remember that huge day of protests?
No.
Hands-off protests?
No.
There were over 1,000 protests scheduled that
day all over the country against Trump.
Well, this weekend, this Saturday, June 14th, there
are already more than 1,800 protests scheduled
against Trump all around the country.

(49:21):
It's going to be like twice the size
of that massive day of protests that we
saw on April 5th.
Okay, so what?
Trump is going to do his military parade
for himself in Washington that day.
Yeah, that's the talking point.
Interestingly, and I think importantly, there is not
a no King's Day protest in Washington, D
.C. this Saturday because of Trump's military parade.

(49:41):
They're going to do like a flagship national
protest in Philadelphia.
But there are more than 1,800 other
protests against Trump planned all over the country.
It looks like there are going to be
more and larger protests against Trump this weekend,
this Saturday, than we have yet seen on
any other day.
And he knows it.
He cannot handle the amount of protests against

(50:03):
him now.
And it is about to increase exponentially.
She really believes that this is like, protest
is good.
Go ahead and protest.
Do you think anyone cares?
Does she think that the ICE protests in
LA are about him?
They're about ICE.
No, but this is what I'm saying.
This is the disconnect.
She's lost her mind, this poor woman.

(50:25):
If you look at the no King's Day
posters, ICE is like eighth on the list.
You know, it's more about tariffs and inflation
and all the old talking points.
They didn't have time to print up new
posters.
Final clip.
The no King's Day of defiance?
No King's Day of defiance.
It's expanded in scope.
Wait, now it's grammatically incorrect.

(50:50):
No King's Day of defiance?
That's a non sequitur, at least.
They said this today, quote.
I always want to remind you that she
makes millions of dollars doing this.
She makes 25 million.
Yes, I always want to remind you because
that kind of gets you riled up when

(51:11):
you hear that.
25 million dollars.
Well, for 25 million bucks, you'd say anything.
Trump sucks.
She obviously has orders.
Give me 25 million dollars.
Trump sucks.
He's Hitler.
He's no good.
John, what do you think about Trump for

(51:31):
25 million dollars?
What do you think?
Sucks.
The no King's mobilizations on June 14th were
already planned as a peaceful stand against authoritarian
overreach and the gross abuse of power.
This administration has shown now this military escalation,
meaning what's happening in Los Angeles, only confirms
what we have known.
This government wants to rule by force, not

(51:53):
serve the people from major cities to small
towns.
We will rise together and say we reject
political violence.
We reject fear as governance.
We reject the myth that only some deserve
freedom.
On Saturday, June 14th, more than 1800 rallies
will take place across the country.
Peaceful, organized and united.
The no King's movement has posted a map

(52:14):
online showing where those 1800 plus rallies will
be held.
I should tell you, and I think this
is important.
Here we go.
Of those 1800, more than 100 of those
have been added to the map since Trump
announced that he was sending the National Guard
into L.A. Oh, my.
If he was hoping to get people to
not protest, it's backfiring.
Backfiring.

(52:35):
Organizers are going to hold a series of
online trainings this week.
Hey, no agenda producers.
We need you to jump on these zoom
calls for some training.
Organizers are going to hold a series of
online trainings this week ahead of the big
day tomorrow.
It's a know your rights training that they're
doing nationwide by zoom so people can better
understand how to interact with law enforcement.

(52:56):
Or how about this?
Don't spit on them.
Don't throw things at them.
Don't get in their face.
And you should be OK.
That's my advice.
Provocateurs during the demonstrations.
Oh, how you deal with provocateurs.
Oh, I see.
And how to know there's always going to
be those law enforcement or provocateurs during the
demonstrations.
Then two days later on Thursday, another big

(53:18):
nationwide zoom call.
They're calling it a pre mobilization mass call.
That's for anybody who's planning to participate.
Potentially tens of thousands of people are going
to be on that call.
It's basically just a strategy ahead of the
big day Saturday.
Yeah, well, someone should be on it.
All we have to get on the ball
here.
It's not going to be easy.
You know, they have this.
One of the places they have these protests
is in Port Angeles, Washington.

(53:39):
Of course.
And is Mimi going?
Is Mimi going to bring her Mexican flag?
Well, she like she goes by.
She never takes enough photos for my taste.
But she goes by.
It's the same.
She says it's the same six people.
And they're always out in front of the
same in front of the library or the
city hall.
I can't remember where specifically.
They're always holding signs.

(54:00):
Handmade signs.
Trump signs.
And they're all old.
It's not like any kids or, you know,
any millennials or anything.
It's just a bunch of old farts, which
I've seen.
They also have the.
This will show up over here in El
Cerrito near me and El Cerrito Plaza.
And I've joined in once in a while
to go over there so I can chat

(54:21):
with people.
Of course.
And and can get a couple of cool
signs.
Hey, man, can I have your sign for
my collection?
I need any more good signs, but just
a good ones.
Can I hold your sign, please?
And well, I've done different things to get
to get signs.
I've actually bought signs.
And most people give up their signs for

(54:41):
some cash.
And and there's also sign makers is usually
a sign maker that's around there.
And he's making custom signs.
And he's like, you know, has reasonably good
handwriting.
He prints the signs up and they staples
them to a stick.
Was this in the 2000s that you did
this?
I've done this a couple of times.

(55:03):
If I if I have time and I
because it's over by the post office where
I go to pick up the mail.
And if there's a little protest going on,
it's usually about.
You mingle.
You mingle.
20 or 30 people.
Yeah, I'll pull a car over a park
and then I'll come and mingle.
Hey, hey, girls, which is somebody to be
somebody with a bullhorn and a sheet of

(55:23):
paper of stuff that they're supposed to yell
into the bullhorn and hold your paper for
a sec.
Yeah, I do that.
It's good research.
No, but it's the same thing.
They're all in their 50s and 60s.
So you belong.
You just you just.
Yeah, I fit right in.
I'm the old guy.
Blend in.
Well, look right in.

(55:43):
Look at that.
Look at that gray hair.
Yeah, I got, you know, the hair is
kind of disheveled and I wear it.
I'm wearing I'm wearing flannel shorts a lot
because we're damn cold.
Or do you have your your your your
sandals on or what are you wearing for
sure?
I don't wear it now.
I wear Crocs.
Crocs.
Thank you.
I don't wear Crocs.
I'm just making it clear.
I don't wear Crocs.

(56:04):
I wear Skechers.
Yeah, they're Crocs on steroids.
They're like Crocs.
They're just Skechers from the same factory.
Anyway, these protests are a joke.
The this I thought was the this is
such a good clip of Nancy Pelosi.
I mean, what do we know about the

(56:26):
National Guard on January 6th?
We know that Trump sent a memo to
Pelosi, who's in charge of the National Guard,
because she's responsible and she's in charge of
the sergeant at arms of the Congress.
And so she tells him what to do.
He sent a memo to Nancy saying, I
think it's, you know, there could be some

(56:46):
protests that we should probably protect the Capitol.
We need we should probably put 10,000
National Guard troops.
This was discussed by Nancy.
Oops, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold
on, hold on.
Come back.
This was discussed by Nancy.
This was discussed by Nancy's daughter in the
movie that she made where Nancy said, yeah,
I could have probably stopped it.

(57:06):
Yep.
But Nancy was given a memo.
She says, screw this.
We're not going to do that.
And then they destroy that memo was that
Nancy's was Nancy's property at the time.
She was destroyed during the hearings.
And nobody wants to talk about it, even
though she already, you know, it's already on
tape that she said what she told her
daughter.
Yes.
So Trump was trying to get the National

(57:27):
Guard to out to just protect the Capitol
and he was rebuked and then blamed.
Well, it's interesting because Nancy Pelosi remembers it
differently.
Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is noting the
disconnect between how the president is behaving now
and how he behaved in January on January
6th.

(57:48):
On January 6th, with violence against the Constitution,
against the Congress and against the United States
Capitol, we begged the president of the United
States to send in the National Guard.
He would not do it.
Contra constitutional way.
He has sent the National Guard into California.

(58:12):
Something is very wrong with this picture.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Something is very wrong with this picture.
Nancy.
Isn't that amazing?
It doesn't surprise me in the well, no,
it's just liars.
Yeah, it doesn't surprise us at all.
I'm ready to move on.

(58:33):
If you are, I would like to probably
let's just see that any scrounge clips left
scrounge, man.
It's like this is an hour of this
nonsense.
Oh, you're right.
We're talking more about it than the actual
protest will last.
It's like I will say I watched the
Apple WWDC keynote, which is a which is

(58:54):
not a keynote.
It's a video.
And can I summarize it for you as
I usually do?
Yes, you can summarize for me as you
usually do.
It's gorgeous.
Liquid Glass is gorgeous.
It's just gorgeous.
All your apps are gorgeous.
The video gets gorgeous.

(59:14):
It's just gorgeous.
They say gorgeous.
Oh, they all say gorgeous, particularly Tim.
It's gorgeous.
It's just so Liquid Glass is gorgeous.
There you go.
That's that is your.
Did you tell me to watch Ted Lasso
when it first came out?

(59:36):
Maybe four years ago.
I mentioned that it was an interesting show.
Kind of at least the first season.
Yeah.
No, because because it's on Apple TV and
we and someone someone else recommended it and
we started watching it.
We love it.
I almost I almost didn't want to make
fun of Apple today, but I can't help
myself because Ted Lasso is gorgeous.
Everything with Apple is gorgeous.

(59:57):
I thought the show jumped a shark right
at the end of the first season.
I never watched it since.
Oh, no, we're into second season.
It's still good.
I mean, it's unrealistic.
It doesn't show at all the the grooming
racist country of the United Kingdom.
It doesn't portray that to any accuracy.
And the and the only brown people are

(01:00:18):
the ones playing football.
Football.
Football.
Yeah.
Anyway, so that was gorgeous.
You watch the shows about sports.
Tina's watching a show about sports.
That's you talk about crazy.
This is great.
Although have you started watching The Recruit?
No, no, no.

(01:00:38):
I can't take any more violence.
I can't take the violence.
It's not that violent.
I don't like the violence.
It's too much.
I'm tired of violence.
Just for anyone out there, it's on Netflix.
And it's about a schmuck that joins the
CIA.
And he gets beat up a lot because
he's an idiot.
And but the thing that's remarkable about the

(01:01:00):
show is the portrayal of the bureaucracy.
Yeah.
And the backbiting, backstabbing, creepy.
And anyone's worked in a big bureaucracy, whether
and Mimi says, yeah, the corporate same way
because she worked at a couple of big
banks when she was younger.
And I worked at an administrative state operation.
You were a Democrat.

(01:01:20):
I can't even believe that you converted.
It's amazing.
You got saved.
No common sense.
And so but just to watch the scenes
in the office are the ones that make
that show work.
OK.
The other story that dominated the M5M in

(01:01:40):
for obvious reasons, again, full of lies, was
the AIC ACIP.
This is the the the board of advisors
that advises on vaccines for the CDC, which
Robert Kennedy Jr. decided to disband and bring

(01:02:02):
in new guys.
And this caused such a tizzy because you're
dead, because we know that most of the
advertising, certainly on the news programs, but everywhere,
everywhere you look, you know, turn out, turn
on some TV if if you got it
still.
Maybe you can get one of those over
the air antennas or get YouTube TV for

(01:02:23):
a day and then cancel it.
It's all over the air.
Antennas are cheap.
Yeah, it's cheap.
It's safe and effective, actually.
Yeah.
Here's an intro from NBC that will give
you the rundown.
Then I have a couple of specific clips
from Dr. Selene Gounder.
Back here at home, the future of vaccine
recommendations remains in question following the move by

(01:02:45):
Health Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. to retire all the members of
a CDC panel of independent experts advising on
vaccines.
By the way, whenever you say Robert Kennedy
Jr., you have to say Robert Kennedy Jr.,
a known vaccine skeptic.
Here's Ann Thompson.
Fierce blowback tonight to HHS Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy Jr.'s decision to remove all members of

(01:03:07):
the CDC's Vaccine Advisory Committee from public health
experts.
If this committee stops recommending vaccines, insurance won't
cover it anymore.
People will not get it.
We know that's factually not true.
We know that the recommendations that change that
that insurance will cover it.

(01:03:30):
We went through this.
What you're pointing out is what we've pointed
out before, that this is a lie.
It's a lie.
Yes.
Correct.
It's a lie.
This insurance won't cover it anymore.
You will have people will not get it.
You won't have access.
Somehow people will not get it.
Yeah, people won't get it.
What network is this?
And why would you put a blatant liar

(01:03:51):
on?
Oh, wait a minute.
It's because the networks are bought and paid
for by big pharma.
Yes, it's NBC.
And what he's not what he's saying is
he didn't even say he actually threw out
the talking point without even knowing it.
It's not even a talking point.
It's what's behind the talking point.
What he's saying is not like people won't

(01:04:11):
be able to afford it.
He didn't even say people won't have access.
He says people won't get it, which is
the fear of the pharma companies.
Oh, they're not going to get the shot
anymore.
That's direct to our bottom line.
That's what he's saying.
From public health experts.
If this committee stops recommending vaccines, insurance won't
cover it anymore.

(01:04:31):
It will have a real impact on people's
access to that.
And our stock price.
And the American Academy of Pediatrics.
I think we're likely to see diseases that
we've that many people have never seen before
or even heard of.
Diseases we've never even heard of.
How does that work?
Just don't want to scare you.

(01:04:52):
But there will be diseases you've never even
heard of.
Somehow vaccines magically exist for it.
But you're going to get that.
Concern from parents.
Don Gibson, father of two in California.
By the way, this is the most.
I'm sorry you're playing this because now you're
getting me mad.
This is a pathetic indictment of the mainstream
media that they would do this.

(01:05:14):
Isn't that what we do?
Yeah, but this is a pathetic indictment, not
just an indictment.
It's pathetic.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'll try to be more classy next time.
Concern from parents.
Don Gibson, father of two in California.
I'm really worried that my children won't have
access to vaccines that I did.
Access, access, access.
I don't have access to it.

(01:05:34):
What's access?
Like I did.
It's like Internet access.
What kind of access?
Mom Harmony Montez in the heart of the
recent West Texas measles outbreak.
I very much trust vaccines.
Kennedy, a longtime.
Best, best drop in ever.
Mom in West Texas got to be a
nut job Republican.

(01:05:54):
Done.
California.
I'm really worried that my children won't have
access to vaccines that I did.
Mom Harmony Montez in the heart of the
recent West Texas measles outbreak.
Kennedy, a longtime vaccine skeptic.
In today's Wall Street Journal, writing.
Did you hear it?
Well known vaccine skeptic, right?

(01:06:14):
But she said long time.
Oh, very much trust vaccines.
Kennedy, a longtime skeptic.
In today's Wall Street Journal, writing a clean
sweep is needed to reestablish public confidence in
vaccine science, claiming the committee has been plagued
with persistent conflicts of interest.
The committee is made up of independent medical

(01:06:35):
and public health experts who make recommendations to
the CDC about vaccine usage.
Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy, a doctor, said in
February Kennedy and the Trump White House promised
him this.
It confirmed he will maintain the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention's Advisory Committee on Immunization
Practices recommendations without changes.

(01:06:58):
Today, Cassidy was.
Hold on a second.
Recommendations without changes.
Not that he would keep the entire panel
in place, but the recommendations.
So they kind of fuffle around on that
and make it sound like Kennedy promised not
to change the advisory panel.
But he promised he wouldn't change the recommendations

(01:07:19):
from the panel.
Didn't say that, hey, it could be a
new panel.
Senator Bill Cassidy, a doctor, said in February
Kennedy and the Trump White House promised him
this.
It confirmed he will maintain the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention's Advisory Committee on Immunization
Practices recommendations without changes.
You see, he's doing exactly what he said

(01:07:42):
he would do.
But I might change the panel.
Today, Cassidy was cautious.
I'll have to see.
He'll fire me the names, but I can't
answer that because I haven't seen the name.
Do you see this increasing trust in vaccines?
I don't see how I possibly could.
Trust and the nation's health experts say potentially

(01:08:02):
at risk.
At risk.
Trust is at risk.
I think that went out the window a
long time ago.
Now we go to CBS.
Dr. Celine Gounder, who I believe still lost
her husband due to a sudden stroke on
a soccer field somewhere.
Yeah, mysteriously, mysteriously.
Now, listen to this.

(01:08:23):
Can you explain to our audience what the
CDC's Vaccine Advisory Committee does and why these
dismissals are raising alarms?
So our vaccines have to go through multiple
hoops before you get you receive these.
So you got to go hoops, not tests.
We don't do tests.
We just go through hoops and loopholes and
back doors.
Well, we played a clip recently about the

(01:08:43):
discussion of the getting rid of they got
rid of two vaccine people off one of
these one of these advisory committees and just
pass the COVID thing because they were skeptical
about COVID boosters.
And out they went.
Well, hoops.
So our vaccines have to go through multiple

(01:09:04):
hoops before you get you receive these.
So first, you have the FDA that approves
them.
They vet for safety and effectiveness.
Then the ACIP, which is this external committee
advising the CDC, will help determine how these
vaccines should be used.
So what age group, what high risk groups?
And this is something that's been happening for
decades now.
It's not partisan.
It's not political.

(01:09:24):
And frankly, it's a pretty boring scientific process.
Oh, OK.
Well, let's listen to what the issue is,
then, Dr. Celine Gounder.
Kennedy wrote in an op ed that this
is really about restoring the public trust and
rooting out conflicts of interest.
He specifically said that most of the ACIP
members have received substantial funding from pharmaceutical companies.
Does he have a point about conflicts of

(01:09:46):
interest here?
Well, conflicts of interest.
What do you think the doctor will say
about this?
He's going to say no.
It's even better than that.
What he is citing is an Office of
the Inspector General report that found 97 percent
of the conflict of interest forms had errors.
But these were errors of putting the wrong
date.
Imagine on your IRS returns, you might have

(01:10:07):
the wrong date on something.
That's very different from having a true conflict
of interest.
And these advisory members cannot serve on this
committee if they own stock in a pharmaceutical
company, if they're on a pharmaceutical company associated
advisory board of some kind.
Now, Kennedy, on the other hand, is conflicted.
Anybody who stands to gain or lose from

(01:10:29):
the outcome of a vaccine decision, and he
has sued multiple vaccine manufacturers, he has stood
to gain or lose from the outcome of
these decisions.
That is, by definition, conflicted.
OK, so I don't want to get into
the definition of conflicted because I could look
into Dr. Celine Gounder's conflicts of interest as
a TV doctor.

(01:10:49):
But I do have this thing called the
Internet.
And I did pull up this report from
2009, which she discredits and says, hey, man,
it's just like you got the date wrong
on your tax return, which, by the way,
you can get in a lot of hassle
for putting the wrong date or oops, I
missed the digit.
And so I have the findings.
I'm looking at the paper that she just

(01:11:10):
said, oh, no, it was 97 percent, but
I missed a little thing.
Findings for almost all special government employees.
This is the AIPC.
CDC did not ensure that financial disclosure forms
were complete.
CDC certified forms for 50 with at least

(01:11:30):
one omission for 90 percent, 97 percent of
the SGEs.
Most of the forms had more than one
type of omission.
Omission is not the same thing as oops,
I got the date wrong to CDC did
not identify or resolve potential conflicts of interest
for 64 percent of these employees.

(01:11:54):
64 percent had potential conflicts of interest that
CDC did not identify and or resolve before
it certified their OGE forms for 50.
Specifically, 58 percent of the SGEs had potential
conflicts of interest that CDC did not identify.
In addition, 32 percent of them had potential

(01:12:14):
conflicts of interest that CDC identified but did
not resolve.
26 percent of them had both CDC unidentified
and unresolved potential conflicts of interest.
It's just the date they made.
They did wrong.
That's all that it is.
Three, CDC did not ensure that 41 percent
of these employees received ethics training in 2007.

(01:12:39):
CDC did not ensure that 41 percent had
ethics training certificates on file to document they
received initial or annual ethics training within the
required time frames.
And the final point, 15 percent of them
did not comply with the ethics requirement during
committee meetings.
Specifically, 13 percent of them participated in committee

(01:13:00):
meetings without having current certified OGE forms on
file.
In addition, 3 percent voted on particular matters
when their waivers prohibited such participation.
Four both participated in committee meetings without current
certified forms on file and voted on particular
matters when their waivers prohibited such participation.

(01:13:22):
Bull crap, Dr. Selene Gounder.
We have the Internet and we stand strong.
OK, so just more lies.
That's but that is that to me is
a big lie.
I mean, she does.
I just got to hear that.
She's obviously conflicted.

(01:13:43):
I just want to hear one more time
what she said.
Kennedy wrote in an op-ed that this
is really about restoring that most of the
ACIP members have received substantial funding from pharmaceutical
companies.
Does he have a point about conflicts of
interest here?
What he is citing is an Office of
the Inspector General report that found 97 percent
of the conflict of interest forms had errors.
But these were errors of like putting the

(01:14:03):
wrong date.
I mean, imagine on your IRS returns, you
might have the wrong date on something that's
very different from having a true conflict of
interest.
Or omitting things on my tax return.
If I omit things on my tax return,
I am actually committing.
I don't know if it's a felony, if
it's a civil offense, but I'm going to
get in trouble if they find out.

(01:14:25):
So, no, these guys all got in trouble.
They all got released.
They got really put a new group in.
So what?
Why?
What's wrong with the new group?
She has something to complain about.
Well, according to the Wall Street Journal, RFK
Jr. names eight vaccine panel replacements, including COVID
shot skeptics.
You don't want a skeptic.

(01:14:45):
You don't want a skeptic on your panel.
Let's see who we have.
Yeah.
Heaven forbid you have somebody that's that is
open.
If never.
I don't.
We've got Dr. Robert Malone.
Wait, who's the first guy here?
They put Malone on there.
That's not true.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, so he is nothing but time.

(01:15:06):
Vicki Pebsworth, a nurse with a public health
doctorate who's a board member of the National
Vaccine Information Center, which is a pro vaccine
group, I will say.
We talked about them during COVID.
They come across as anti, but I think
they're pro.
Yeah, it could be.
Dr. Robert Malone, who, of course, worked on

(01:15:28):
research into several mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.
Has patents.
Retsef Levi, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Management professor,
and he called for the COVID-19 vaccines
to be withdrawn from the market in a
2023 video.
Dr. Martin Kohldorf, former professor of medicine at

(01:15:51):
Harvard University, who became known during the pandemic
as a critic of COVID-19 mitigation measures,
such as lockdowns.
We can't have that guy on the panel.
Cody Meissner, pediatrician, infectious disease specialist, respected by
other vaccine experts.
So, you know, it's like Kennedy's doing exactly

(01:16:12):
what he said.
He needs to restore trust with the other
half of the, with actually the other 70
% of the country.
Really, 40% who went no.
And then there's the 30% that went,
no, but OK, I'll go along to get
along.
So he's doing exactly what he promised.
This is very good.
This is what you want.

(01:16:33):
He's not getting rid of vaccines.
If you want them, go get them.
If you want them.
Of course, it's, your kids won't go to
school.
Same thing here in Fredericksburg.
You want your kids to go to St.
Mary's?
Got to have your vaccines.
Well, what if I don't want to give
my kids vaccines?
Sorry, you can't go to St. Mary's.
But you know, the vaccines might have pieces

(01:16:55):
of embryo in there.
Yeah, that may be.
But you know, Jesus says you can't come
to school.
So Rogan had this woman on, this doctor.
Which one?
Who was, sorry?
Which one?
I'm looking for the clip.

(01:17:16):
Oh, the older lady?
No, she's not older.
She's kind of middle-aged.
Yeah, my age.
Mary Bowden.
Yeah.
Dr. Mary Bowden.
Yes, yeah.
She's not, I wouldn't call her older.
She's like my age.
Maybe.
Whatever the case is, he liked her.
Yeah.
And the clip I should have gotten, I
would have gotten, I could have gotten, but

(01:17:37):
I didn't get, is where she talks about
how the vaccine was, you know, foisted upon
the public in a certain kind of way.
I'll get that clip, maybe play it on
Sunday.
But this clip I thought was interesting.
This is part of the whole time during
the COVID.
I think Kennedy would, you know, this COVID

(01:17:59):
-19 vaccine should be taken off the market.
It should have been taken off the market
early on and they just can't get rid
of it.
And so Kennedy, I think one of the
things he's trying to do is find enough
guys, you know, to get this thing taken
off the market, but it's going to be
hard to do.
And then when you hear stories like this,
this disgusting story, which was in this, and

(01:18:20):
I would recommend, I don't listen to all
of Rogan's stuff.
You don't even, you don't even watch it
when I'm on.
It's true.
Admit it.
It's true.
I don't, well, I know what you're, I
know you, I don't need to watch you.
Oh, there's Adam.
Let me see what he has to say.
I know what you have to say.

(01:18:40):
It doesn't make any sense.
It's like watching paint dry.
I know.
I'm sorry to bore you.
It's like watching paint dry.
It's exactly right.
So, but I would recommend this.
People listen to this thing, whole cloth beginning
to end.
It's really good.
But this, listen to this.
There's actually a lawsuit today.
That's first jury trial in the country over

(01:19:02):
these hospital protocols, where they had a young
woman with Down syndrome.
They basically euthanized her.
They gave her a DNR order, even though
she didn't have one.
And the father has just been wonderful.
It's a Shara family.
Why did they do that?
They euthanized her for what?

(01:19:22):
I've seen this.
I have reviewed records from these hospital patients
and they'll euthanize them.
They need the bed.
They said, well, they're going to die anyway.
What was this person in the hospital for?
COVID.
COVID protocol.
And they, wait, wait, wait.
So they were in the hospital with COVID
and they gave them something to kill them?

(01:19:44):
Yeah, that happened.
I'm sorry.
But I mean, that happened.
They give them morphine and insulin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's common?
Yeah, yeah.
I've reviewed charts in this situation.
They gave her a DNR, which is do
not resuscitate.
I mean, if they look like they're dying,

(01:20:05):
you don't do anything, which that was not
the case.
So they're suing for battery, which is one
way of getting around the PrEP Act, because
the PrEP Act is very hard to penetrate.
The PrEP Act protects everybody, all the doctors,
all the hospitals from any wrongdoing during COVID.
So it's been this big challenge trying to

(01:20:26):
get around the PrEP Act.
And this case has hope of getting around
the PrEP Act because they're charging for battery
and they're in trial.
It started today.
It's in Wisconsin.
So that gives me hope.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow, indeed.
And of course, then you hear just around

(01:20:47):
the same time Rogan's interviewing her.
And he's aghast like everybody else.
And she's a very famous doctor in Houston.
I've seen some of her stuff.
We hear this from Cuomo on one of
the podcasts with some other guy.
And he says this crazy thing.

(01:21:08):
My big prediction is that Rogan's success is
admirable.
I do not believe he'll be where he
was three months ago, a year from today.
There are too many talented people entering that
space now who want his real estate.
And they're going to be better at what
he does than he is.
So I think that he's going to see
attrition.
That's not the first time someone said that

(01:21:29):
about Joe.
He does surpass expectations.
Like people wrote his obituary many, many times.
And it's just never come true.
Oh, listen, I don't necessarily want it to
come true, because I don't find him offensive
or anything.
Are you saying stop to me?
I'm sorry.
Did you say stop?
No, I didn't say anything.
Oh, listen, I don't necessarily want it to

(01:21:50):
come true, because I don't find him offensive
or anything.
I see him as innocuous.
But he's getting criticism.
He never got criticism before.
The media is taking him seriously now.
And that's not going to go well for
him.
The media is going to take him down,
man.
Because, you know, it's just a podcast.
What a dope.

(01:22:11):
I was flabbergasted by this attack.
It's dopey.
It's dopey.
You know, if anything, I think Fredo believes
that he's the one that's going to dethrone
him.
He's going to get rid of Rogan.
I'm better than Joe.

(01:22:31):
It's like, no.
What an idiot.
So I received at least 20 BOTG reports.
You know what that stands for, right?
BOTG.
Gee, let me think.
Bitches on the gag.

(01:22:53):
No, it's boobs on the ground.
Boobs on the ground.
OK.
Normally boots on the ground.
Now it's boobs on the ground.
About our discussion of breastfeeding versus formula.
Yes, I got a bunch of them too.
Lactating mothers wrote us and Mimi even said
to me, how come you guys didn't bring
up the fact that breast milk is like

(01:23:15):
a superfood that we should have mentioned.
Babies don't get sick when they're breastfeeding.
It's almost impossible.
They don't get colds.
They don't get anything.
And they definitely don't need a vaccine through
the mom.
And it was just like, yes, this was
the theme.
I noticed a lot of this.
And I responded to a couple.
I should have responded to more of them.

(01:23:36):
It got so bad.
I had to come up with a form
response that said, thank you very much for
your contribution.
I got tired of typing it.
But I read all of them.
And I first want to say the most
important thing that we just don't know.
Breastfeeding is hard work.
It is not, you know, we just think

(01:23:56):
like, just put the baby up there.
It sucks.
You're good to go.
And there's moments like women like to complain.
Women like to complain.
I'm sorry.
I said that because I'm going to get
some notes.
Yeah, you should.
But they'll complain that a certain, like a
baby hits a, you know, some, they can
be like, if they're in breastfeeding mode and
they're out and about and some baby down

(01:24:18):
this hallway and they start screaming.
They start leaking.
It drops their milk.
And there's nothing they can do about it.
And they start making a, oh God, what
a horrible.
And they complain bitterly about this.
And I'd say, yeah, it's like, if you
were all of a sudden something happened, you
just automatically peed in your pants.
I had a guy I worked with at

(01:24:39):
the Union Oil.
Stop, don't get off the topic.
Keep that story in your pants for one
minute.
I brought the topic up.
You've already just went off for like 10
minutes about your experience.
It was 30 seconds.
That's what she said.
Now, listen, breastfeeding is hard work.
There's a lot that goes into it that

(01:24:59):
we don't, I mean, even though I've seen
it, I've witnessed it, you don't think about
these things.
And so my summary, and I put a
couple of them in the show notes.
And the one I was really interested in,
because this is what I asked is like,
what happened before formula?
What did we do in the 1800s?
So I'll just read that and then I'll
surmise all the other emails.

(01:25:21):
Pre-Victorian era, if a baby could not
breastfeed by their mother, as in their mother
died in childbirth, other arrangements like wet nurses
would be made.
If a wet nurse was not available, substitute
like cow's milk were used.
However, infant mortality was extremely likely as breast
milk provides key nutrients and antibodies that help

(01:25:41):
build a baby's immune system.
And apparently goat milk was also popular.
In the Victorian era, people let the germ
theory of disease get into their heads.
So they thought that if a scientist in
a sterile lab could replicate something from the
germ filled real world, the lab version was
obviously better.
That's when and why baby formula was invented.
Despite male doctors telling women to use formula,

(01:26:04):
most still breastfed because why pay for something
we can get for free?
In the 20th century, formula only became popular
during World War II as working mothers became
a thing.
Generations of women have now been told to
prioritize careers over children and have been brainwashed
into thinking of baby formula like feeding your
kids dino nuggets instead of grilled chicken.

(01:26:26):
It's not the best, but it's a convenience
you can still feel good about.
With more and more research showing the nutritional
difference between formula and breast milk, this narrative
is finally crumbling and all formula companies can
do now is make new formulas and go
on trying to pretend it's just as good
as breast milk.
And my takeaway from the women who emailed
me, which is a lot, a lot of

(01:26:47):
them breastfeeding as we speak.
In fact, they're hearing me right now.
They got one on each boob.
Some of them emailed me this, that the
psyop from the baby formula companies was so
strong.
The marketing was so strong that it really
turned belief into, hey, we make something better

(01:27:08):
than what you can produce.
And I completely believe that along with some
stigma, certainly in America, the stigma of she's
whipping out her boob and giving the baby
breast milk right here in public.
Oh no, that's no good.
And so I too am happy that this
narrative is changing.

(01:27:29):
And thank you, Bobby the op Kennedy, thank
you for bringing this to the forefront and
getting people to think for a second.
Doesn't make it any easier.
There's not facilities everywhere.
Pumping is a pain in the butt.
There's all kinds, you know, women have to
work these days.
You got to have two incomes just to
survive.
It's not easy.

(01:27:51):
Men step it up.
Do everything you can to help your wife,
your woman, whatever it is, because it's better
for your baby.
I can say that without being a doctor.
It just makes sense.
But thank you women for A, showing us
that you still listen and that you really
listen, really appreciate that.

(01:28:11):
Surprisingly, yes.
I was like, wow, we got chicks listening,
man.
This is good news.
They're still here.
And thank you for being so open about
all of the issues and what you think.
And thank you for opening my eyes because,
I mean, Tina and I, by the way,
Tina was like, you guys suck.
You guys don't know nothing.
That's why she was blowing up my phone.
And all the girls, all the lunch ladies,

(01:28:32):
like what are Adam and John talking about?
What do they know about this?
Yeah, I agree with that.
Yeah, I agree with it too.
We don't know anything about it.
We don't do it.
So thank you.
But we do know more than we expressed
in the live.
Yeah, of course.
Of course.
And we did not bring up the fact
that it's a healthier alternative to getting vaccinated

(01:28:53):
as a as a pregnant person, person, person,
pregnant person.
But it's good.
And I'm happy that that women of no
agenda get my nation that they are turning
to this form of feeding their infant.
They realize it's better.
Many are taking pay cuts.

(01:29:13):
Husbands are working harder so they can be
at home, breastfeed, homeschool.
Oh, no, trad wife.
Yeah.
So this is in general.
I think I think a very, very good
development.
And I'm proud of y'all.
And y'all deserve a medal for what
you have to go through because it is
not just a matter of, oh, baby hungry.

(01:29:34):
Let's go.
That's kind of what we as guys think.
You don't think about it like this.
It's not that easy.
Anyway, thank you.
I really appreciate it.
I got an education.
And one of these days, hopefully one of
our daughters will have a kid.
I'm starting to wonder about that.
They're all getting old.
Hurry up.
All my friends.
Oh, I became a granddad.

(01:29:54):
Oh, yeah.
I'm ready for it.
I'm ready to show a kid how to
drive a truck, drink beer and shoot.
She'll know well on the topic of women
and breastfeeding.
Let's talk about the Tonys.
Oh, man.
Was that Sunday?
I completely missed it.
I guess it was Sunday.
And I was always of the opinion that

(01:30:14):
the Tonys couldn't get more gay.
Well, it's kind of every year.
I'm every year.
I'm wrong.
Hold on a second.
Did Clooney win for anything after he did
that?
No, they were shut out.
Oh, man, because he could.
You know what he did?
He broke her ranks.
He's like.

(01:30:35):
Theater is for the Broadway.
It is not for CNN television.
Who do you think you are, Clooney?
Go back to your film.
He did them a favor.
He did Tony awards a favor by being
on 60 Minutes as the lead in the
Tonys talking about the Tonys.
The Tonys.
No corruption there.

(01:30:56):
They're on CBS.
Well, this is what you do.
I just think it's corrupt.
I don't care.
So there was a lot of non-binaries.
This guy, Jack Malone, won for best actor,
but he's a non-binary dude in a
dress.
And he came out there with his dress
on.
It's just a kind of now.
What was the what was the play he

(01:31:17):
starred in?
It was Mary.
And does Mary call for a man dressed
as a woman or for a woman?
It costs her.
He's playing Mary Lincoln, and it's called for
a woman.
He's a man dressed as a woman playing
a woman.
But he's a guy.
And I give Tony's credit for not nominating

(01:31:39):
for best female actress.
Well, the next year, there's always next year.
We'll get there.
But they're gone in this non-binary thing.
In fact, the best guy, this one guy
comes out.
He wins the award for.
I forgot what he some singer, I think.
And he comes out.
He's he's not dressed as a woman, but

(01:31:59):
he's got all his makeup on.
He's got eye shadow and lipstick.
And he comes out and he ends this
guy, Michael Arden.
He has this little little diddy at the
end as he goes through this long tirade
about, you know, non-binary ism.
And he makes the following comment here.
Just telling stories that probe for deeper truths

(01:32:19):
that inspire hope, because the darker it gets,
the more we need your light.
As Daddy Sondheim said, give us more to
see.
And if there are any queer people watching
tonight, happy pride.
Yeah, the crowd goes wild.

(01:32:41):
You're so brave.
So brave.
You should have said happy world pride.
I'm disappointed.
Uh, play this clip here, Tony.
Now, this guy.
Happy pride.
He said any queer people listening got a
big laugh.
Ha ha ha.
I figured everybody everybody.
Try Tony's.

(01:33:03):
They I should mention this.
And this is kind of a little bit
off topic.
But the every ad during the Tonys was
aimed at the audience.
And it was AIDS, drugs and drugs and
other kinds of drugs.
And those Zempick and Ozempick and Ozempick and
drugs and drugs and drugs.

(01:33:24):
And so a pretty a pretty typical CBS
lineup of ads is what you're saying.
Yeah, it was a little more than usual,
I thought.
But I had to play this.
I did collect the side effects for Rick
Zolti.
It's worth listening to.
Oh, yes.
Do we know what Rick Zolti does?

(01:33:45):
I forgot already.
She recommended adding Rick Zolti when taken with
an antidepressant.
Rick Zolti was proven to significantly reduce depression
symptoms.
More than an answer.
Oh, it's it's like a hamburger helper for
right.
It's a hamburger helper for antidepressants.
Is your is your antidepressant not working?
Try Rick Zolti.
Yeah.
All right.

(01:34:05):
She recommended adding Rick Zolti when taken with
an antidepressant.
Rick Zolti was proven to significantly reduce depression
symptoms.
More than an antidepressant alone.
With my antidepressant, Rick Zolti could provide a
boost.
Elderly people with dementia related psychosis have increased
risk of death or stroke.
Antidepressants may increase suicidal thoughts and actions and
worsen depression in children and young adults.

(01:34:25):
Call your health care provider right away to
report new or sudden changes in mood, behavior,
thoughts or feelings.
Or if you develop suicidal thoughts or actions,
report fever, stiff muscles and confusion, which can
be life threatening or uncontrolled muscle movements, which
may be permanent.
High blood sugar can lead to coma or
death.
Weight gain, increased cholesterol, unusual urges, dizziness on
standing, falls, seizures, trouble swallowing or sleepiness may

(01:34:47):
occur.
Could adding Rick Zolti be right for you?
Sounds sounds right for me.
May result in death.
Rick Zolti and death.
Oh, beautiful, beautiful.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yes.
I love how it could make you more
depressed, but it's supposed to make me less
depressed.
It could make you more depressed.

(01:35:08):
Could make could give you suicidal thoughts.
But it's supposed to make me less depressed.
Yeah, but you might want to kill yourself.
Actually, I take it back.
It was Cole Escola who was the dude
in the dress.
Jack Malone, who won for one of the
actors.
He had I have a couple of clips
from him.
It should only be one.
I think I double clipped play the long
one.
This is I thought this was the the

(01:35:29):
clip of the day.
Thank you so much to my family watching
in England.
And thank you to my little family, my
beautiful partner Jasmine and my little dog Dracula,
who came out here to have this adventure
with me.
You are my whole heart and I've been
lost without you.
And I'm grateful every day.
The last thing I wanted to say is
this.
Eight times a week, I walk out on
that stage and tell the audience that I'm
a woman.
I'm not one.
And I only convey it through simple adjustments
to posture, voice and energy.

(01:35:50):
But night after night, audiences believe in Hester.
They weep for her.
They invest in her.
They love her for her old romantic heart.
And if you watched our show and found
yourself believing in Hester, well, then I am
so glad to tell you that intentionally or
otherwise, you might have just bid farewell to
cynicism, to outdated ideas, to that rotten old
binary and opened yourself up to a world
that is already out there in glorious technicolor

(01:36:11):
and isn't going away anytime soon.
Thank you so much.
The rotten old binary.
Is that what he says?
Rotten old binary?
It's what he says.
He says you can kiss goodbye the rotten

(01:36:31):
old binary because he plays, you know, he's
a guy playing.
Well, he's the guy that had all the
makeup on.
I'm sorry.
You are confusing me with this report.
Who is who now?
Was this the dude in the dress or
not?
No, the dude in the dress is this
Cola Scola guy who is a.
Let's play him then.
But this is just his intro because he
just he doesn't really have anything funny to

(01:36:52):
say.
Just kind of a hysterical gay guy, basically.
So but this intro to him was was
interesting because they required that they say they.
He's a they.
And the American Theater Wings Tony Award goes
to.
She already messed it up.
The announcer got messed up.

(01:37:14):
And the American Theater Wings.
They.
She's so worried about saying they.
Right.
She was cued.
She was told you better say they because
he's a they them.
Oh, no, the American theater.
It's now theater.
Have you been to the theater yet?
And the American Theater Wings Tony Award goes

(01:37:35):
to Cola Scola.
There.

(01:37:55):
OK, yeah, there.
And now you as a lover of the
of the theater, were you angered?
Were you angered by this?
No, it wasn't.
It was I thought that the I thought
they were overdoing the non-binary stuff.
They made a big point of that.
Everyone's now in the theater.
You're not gay anymore.

(01:38:15):
You're not.
It's world pride, man.
Well, there was a couple of pride mentions
there.
Sure, that one.
But the this the end of the horrible
binary thing and this guy going on is
not going away anytime soon.
It's just like a it's like a what
was annoying to me was they play all

(01:38:37):
these sections of different plays and musicals.
There was nothing.
This last season was bad.
And you're you're you like theater.
You like theater.
I like the theater.
The theater.
The theater is there.
And now from now on, we're called the
theater.
It's a it's, you know, it's a primary
form of entertainment that is a leader, I
think culturally important, but not if it's just

(01:39:00):
going to be a brainwashing fest.
Yeah.
Well, it sucks.
I wouldn't.
I mean, I have, you know, if I
always preferred the London, the East End stuff
to the Broadway anyway, just better.
Yeah.
So I would like to point out the

(01:39:20):
art of the deal at perfect work, completely
done as expected.
Beautiful.
Good for our country.
And that is the the NATO increase in
payments.
And so I will recant very quickly what
the idea means.

(01:39:42):
You're going to I'm going to wrap.
We can't.
Yeah.
OK.
Yeah.
I'm going to.
OK.
OK.
Elucidate.
OK.
OK.
Language police.
Correct me.
Well, you know, I'm sorry.
OK.
I'm going to believe me.
I'm on, you know.
I'm going to elucidate.

(01:40:04):
Gold star.
I'm going to elucidate what the idea was.
The NATO member states, which is code for
countries, were originally supposed to pay two percent
of their national is their GDP.
So all their money, two percent of all

(01:40:25):
two percent of all their money.
That's all they make.
They're supposed to give us basically two percent
of all their money for our war stuff.
I'm just going to break it down to
what it is.
Yeah.
Now, we've kind of forgotten it.
But President Trump kept saying, hey, this has
got to be three and a half percent.
This has got to be three and a
half percent.
Everybody's like, no, I'm going to do that.

(01:40:48):
So then he came out and went, uh,
I'm sorry, I've changed that to five percent.
We need five percent.
And then he deployed his, uh, his heat
seeking missile white lines, Ritter.
And Ritter did a great job because he
closed the deal at five percent.
But it's really three and a half percent

(01:41:10):
money that goes to us, which is what
we wanted in the first place.
And when I say we, it's what President
Trump wanted to come into our coffers for
us to give them boom, booms, pew, pews.
And then Ritter worked a deal.
He did a good job for for the
nut job that he is, did a good
job.
And he said, well, the one and a
half percent, it will be five percent, but

(01:41:33):
one and a half percent will have to
be on other things for like hybrid warfare
and infrastructure, which, of course, everybody knows no
country is going to spend that money at
all.
So President Trump got exactly what he wanted.
Three and a half percent from all the
member states.
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said on Thursday
that most allies endorsed President Donald Trump's demand

(01:41:55):
to spend five percent of GDP on defense.
After a defense ministers meeting in Brussels, Rutte
cited broad support and expects a deal at
NATO summit in The Hague later this month.
The new target includes three point five percent
on core military spending plus one point five
percent on infrastructure for rapid deployment.
This is a significant increase on the current

(01:42:16):
two percent goal, which about a third of
members have yet to reach despite spending hikes
since 2022.
Of course, you need to core defense spending.
But let's be honest with each other.
If a tank is not able to cross
a bridge, if our societies are not prepared
in case war breaks out for a whole

(01:42:38):
of society approach, if you're not able to
really develop the defense industrial base, then the
three point five percent is great.
But then you cannot really defend yourselves.
Trump has pushed allies to spend more so
the U.S. can focus elsewhere, questioning defense
guarantees for those who spend too little.
U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hexeth claimed in

(01:43:00):
Brussels that Trump revived the alliance and that
European allies were grateful.
He also hinted at the review of the
eighty four thousand U.S. troops currently based
in Europe.
At their meeting, ministers also approved new purchasing
targets for weapons and equipment, part of major
2023 plan to defend alliance territory.
That's how you do the deal.
He wanted three and a half percent.

(01:43:22):
He said, you got to pay me five.
And then Ruth came in and went, oh,
well, you know what?
Hey, guys, this is what I'm going to
do.
I'm going to say it's going to be
fine, but we'll do one and a half
and we'll talk some bridges crap.
And you'll never have to spend that or
just the stuff you're already spending on fixing
potholes.
Just put that into the one point five
and I have to pay three and a
half percent.
Everyone's happy.
It's beautiful.

(01:43:44):
I think it goes unnoticed how well executed
that plan was.
It's gone totally unnoticed.
Yeah.
No, you're the only one.
Well, it's because of my boy.
I love him.
Yeah, you love Ruth.
You like doing his voice.
Let's be honest.
Let's be honest.
With three and three and three and a

(01:44:04):
half percent, you're not going to be able
to defend against you need to have bridges
that will hold the tanks.
You know, yes.
If you want to mobilize and keep yourself
safe, you need that one and a half
percent.
So President Trump and I will make a
big splash in the Hague at NATO.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much for coming.

(01:44:25):
And by the way, who wants to go
to the sauna later with me?
I'm excited.
You're excited.
You definitely don't want to go.
Yeah.
But we still have to throw some fear
in there.
I think this was just before the meeting
adjourned and we rolled out the actor Volodymyr

(01:44:46):
Zelensky and a couple of other actors to
say, hey, man, Russia is not just coming
for us.
They're coming for everybody.
Peace in the region and hybrid warfare were
the main topics of the Odessa summit, which
was attended by Ukraine, Romania, the Republic of
Moldova, Serbia, Albania, Greece, Montenegro, Croatia and Slovenia.
Russian war plans point to this region, Odessa,

(01:45:11):
and then toward the borders with Moldova and
Romania.
And of course, we need protection now.
But even more, we need long term guarantees
that this can never happen again.
Romanian President Nicu Sjordan accused Russia of undermining
peace efforts.
Moldova's President Maya Sandu has warned of the

(01:45:33):
dangers of hybrid warfare aimed at influencing the
country's parliamentary elections scheduled for this fall.
We do learn every day by new attempts
and new ways through which Russia tries to
interfere with our internal processes, political processes, democratic
processes.
It is going to be tough, but we

(01:45:53):
do want Moldovans to decide for Moldova at
the parliamentary elections, not Kremlin.
The Black Sea port city of Odessa was
shelled by Russian forces in the run up
to the summit.
Just make every...
Oh, Russia's meddling in our elections.
Just like Romania can't have that YouTube guy
winning.
He was the Russian candidate.

(01:46:14):
It's all so corrupt.
So corrupt, man.
And then sad news today, if you heard
the rock and roll pre-show with Darren
O.
Brian Wilson, a co-founding member of the
Beach Boys, has died.
Wilson's family announced his passing on his official
website today.
A cause of death was not released.

(01:46:35):
Wilson and his cousin, Mike Love, wrote the
song Surfin' in 1961, setting up the formation
of the band known for its iconic surf
song, Surf Sound.
In 2023, Rolling Stone magazine named Wilson one
of the 200 greatest singers of all time.
He was 82 years old.
Horrible obituary.
Horrible.
Singer?

(01:46:55):
Singer?
How about...
He was one of the worst singers in
the band.
He was a great songwriter.
He was a terrific...
He was not only...
He was so prolific.
He wrote all the Beach Boys material with...
He had a partner, a couple of different
writers he would partner with.
But he also did all the Jan and
Dean material.
And then there was two or three other
little spinoff groups that you'd...

(01:47:16):
You know, the guy can't even remember the
name of them anymore.
But he wrote all their material.
Jan and Dean.
The guy was like a maniac for writing
songs.
Yes.
And they were all hits.
He was interviewed recently or before he died.
And somebody asked him if, you know, do
you think this was going to be a
hit or not?
He said, yeah, yeah.
It was like, oh, he's best known for

(01:47:39):
Surfin' USA.
Let's go surfing.
How about...
How about God Only Knows?
How about Pet Sounds?
Pet Sounds is not my favorite.
But man, you talk of people who love
songs and songwriting.
Pet Sounds is like...
No, the Beatles say it was their inspiration
for Dr. Pepper.
No, and...
Dr. Pepper or Dr. Whatever.
Dr. Pepper.

(01:47:59):
I'm Jonas Paulus Ringo.
We're here to do Dr. Pepper.
That's right.
Dr. Pepper.
It was Dr. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club buying...
And I guess the Rolling Stones are big
fans of Pet Sounds too.
Yes.
But no, no.
Hey, if I die, just don't let anybody
say anything.
He was best known for his hair.

(01:48:19):
He was best known for his hair.
For his hair.
Curry was iconic for his hair.
Thank you very much.
That's it.
That's it.
Dude, that is so lame.
You know, there's another thing.
I'm watching Netflix and I don't watch that
much TV, but I watch certain things.
I like some of the documentaries.
And so there's a new documentary on Led

(01:48:41):
Zeppelin.
Oh.
I've seen a lot of these guys.
You've seen them.
You've seen them live.
I saw them on their first appearance in
the United States.
Didn't you do heroin with Keith Moon at
a certain point?
I never did heroin with anybody.
And so when I saw him, I said,
holy crap, these guys are unbelievable.

(01:49:03):
It was the best band I've heard.
John C.
Dvorak, he picks the hits.
And meanwhile, in the documentary, they point out
that their first tour in the United States,
the Rolling Stone magazine panned them.
They're no good.
The songs are stupid.
I didn't know that.
And it was pretty funny.
But so they do a whole documentary on

(01:49:24):
Led Zeppelin and not one mention, not one
bar is played.
Not one reference is made to my absolute
favorite song from Led Zeppelin of all time.
Oh, let me guess.
Your favorite Led Zeppelin song of all time.

(01:49:45):
Wow.
What could this be?
Stairway to Heaven.
Oh, well, they didn't reference Stairway to Heaven?
At all.
Wow.
And it's like this song, I like, you
know, this is one of the songs that
if I go into it, if there's a
piano bar or somebody playing guitar or something,

(01:50:07):
I'll always go up to them and tip
them and have them play Stairway to Heaven
in the bar.
And it brings the house down.
Of course it does.
And everybody, every musician that plays in bars
seems to know the song.
Go into any guitar shop.
Every guitar shop, there's a guy playing Stairway

(01:50:29):
to Heaven on the electric guitar in the
guitar room.
It's like, it's a standard.
No Stairway.
That is crazy.
It's like, I remember giving the one, it
was a piano guy.
And I said, can you, and I said,
I gave him five, I think.
Can you play Stairway to Heaven?
And his response was, hell yes.

(01:50:49):
You know, there are guitar shops, I think
they actually have signs that say, no Stairway
to Heaven.
Please stop playing that song.
We've heard it so many times.
I forgot to mention the, I think this
is the minister of defense in the Netherlands
sent a note to the parliament.

(01:51:15):
And I'm translating on the fly here because
I have the notes PDF.
So it looks legit.
We have seen that president Trump has fired
trans military members from the service in America.
And as you know, we're having a hard
time recruiting people in the Netherlands and we

(01:51:35):
need more for our NATO membership.
We would like to ask the government if
they could explore options for us to take
these trans American military members and work for
us.
What?
You heard me right.
This is a joke, right?
No, no, it's not a joke.

(01:51:57):
Nope.
They could go to Holland and learn Dutch.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Anyway, hey, good story about Led Zeppelin.
Good story.
It's a good story.
Hey, since we're closing in on time here,
I'm just, I keep looking at, cause you

(01:52:17):
know, AI, I love stories about AI and
I see you've got a series on Hollywood
versus AI and I'm kind of chomping at
the bit to hear what this is.
Okay.
Well, we can run through it.
It's a little, the problem is it has
a dull quality to it, but it's interesting.
Dull?
How could this be dull?
It's great news.

(01:52:38):
It's about a lawsuit taking place and it
starts with the Hollywood versus AI.
This is a BBC.
This is from BBC World Service.
And when they get into stuff, I mean,
Yeah, it gets boring.
Yeah, you're right.
It's because the Brits are boring.
Yeah, that's right.
But at least you'll learn something.
And this is kind of interesting.

(01:52:58):
And I may skip a bunch of them
and just play the kicker at the end
cause the end part was kind of interesting.
But let's start with clip zero, one.
Okay.
Been using AI at any stage during it
to help them.
Right.
Is this how it starts?
Is this Hollywood versus AI BBC?
Yeah.
Yeah, I had to clip off the beginning

(01:53:20):
of it.
Okay.
Hello, it's the BBC.
We're going to talk about AI versus Hollywood.
Been using AI at any stage during it
to help them.
Right.
But we are not going to talk about
AI once again, because it's an issue that's
proving to be quite a challenge for some
of the world's largest entertainment companies.
We're talking, of course, about copyright when it
comes to AI.

(01:53:40):
And two of Hollywood's largest studios have taken
legal action on this issue for the very
first time.
Here's our tech correspondent, Lily Jamali, who's in
San Francisco.
These are the first Hollywood players to take
on this issue of copyright having to do
with AI.
We've seen other companies in the publishing space,
like the New York Times do this.
Some authors have sued and the like, but

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these are the biggest players in Hollywood.
And, you know, this AI issue has festered
for really a couple of years now.
At times, it's placed the studios at odds
with their writers.
Now we see the writers actually on side
with the studios who are saying that this
company, Mid Journey, has stolen their characters.
They're alleging copyright infringement of characters, some of

(01:54:24):
which were developed a century or more ago.
Yeah, we are talking about Disney and Universal
who have bought this case against Mid Journey
who haven't commented as yet.
Let's bring in Rebecca Tushnet, who's a law
professor at Harvard specializing in copyright, which I
presume, Rebecca, is a pretty busy place to
be at the moment.

(01:54:45):
So Mid Journey, they're talking about imagery, right?
So they're talking about visual copyright, not about
words.
Am I correcting that assumption?
They're actually talking about everything.
But when they talk about characters that were
developed 100 years ago, the idiot from the
BBC- Yeah, isn't that public domain?
That should have been public domain at least

(01:55:06):
25 years ago, based on the newest copyright
laws.
So what are we talking about here that
you're worried about characters developed 100 years ago
being lifted by AI?
So I found that to be, oh, this
is not good.
All right.
Onward with the second part here.

(01:55:26):
One thing that struck us was, these are
the first big Hollywood studios to be bringing
a case like this.
Why is it taking them so long?
We've seen the music industry probably move a
little bit quicker on these issues.
So, you know, it's hard to say from
the outside, but I think clearly there's a
question of, are they going to cut licensing

(01:55:48):
deals?
And the lawsuit suggests that they're seeking greater
leverage in licensing deals.
You know, they want to be the ones
who pick the winners in AI.
Yeah, which is not easy, I suppose.
Rebecca, when we have a new concept coming,
copyright is an old concept, isn't it?

(01:56:10):
But AI now adds a complicating factor to
it.
So do the existing laws work or do
we need new laws put in place to
tackle a new issue?
So to me, this isn't really a new
issue, although you can easily come to different
resolutions on it.
But, you know, the core questions are, you

(01:56:33):
know, is it fair use to train AI
using existing images or video?
No.
And then what do we do about the
outputs?
And so there are actually strong principles for
both of those things.
But that doesn't mean people won't change the
laws to deal with it.
But it is slightly different when you're influenced

(01:56:57):
by something, isn't it, I suppose, to actually
using generative AI to take thousands and thousands
and thousands of things and come out with
something.
Oh, this is very interesting.
I just realized that we're using different words
for different concepts.
And you said no, but training AI.

(01:57:18):
Training is a nice word, but it's not
training.
It's copying.
It is making a copy of pixels down
to the pixel level, whatever it does.
It is copying that and then pasting it
back into a new project based upon whatever
you've asked it to do.
It is copy.
Training is copying in this case.

(01:57:41):
They're just calling it someone else.
You disagree?
I'm not going to say one way or
the other because I don't agree or disagree
necessarily.
It does involve some copying, but then, well,
now you make me want to play another

(01:58:02):
one of the clips.
Yeah, I'm good.
Play the next clip.
So it really depends.
In fact, that's pretty much how human brains
learn, right?
You know, when you were learning to read
and write, you spent a lot of time
copying stuff.
And even more time studying stuff.
And in fact, that's in your brain.
And people are making progress every day on

(01:58:24):
actually detecting things straight from the brain.
There was an experiment that reconstructed a Pink
Floyd song just by looking at what people's
brains were doing when they were listening to
it.
So, you know, it's not perfect.
But the point being that, you know, the
computer just makes visible at how learning worked

(01:58:46):
for people.
Yeah, that is really interesting.
Stay with us.
Let me bring Mike in on this particular
issue.
I mean, AI is pushing the boundaries in
many different areas.
Copyright is one.
Do you see other challenges coming up as
well, Mike, away from this one?
Oh yeah.
Ownership rights, even patents.

(01:59:08):
There's a lot of areas of intellectual capital
and we're going to have to really set
down some rules.
I mean, yeah, you did learn how to
read and write that way, but you didn't
make any money doing it.
Mid Journey has made, has millions of subscribers
and it made $300 million last year.
Now, do they have the right to all

(01:59:29):
that?
That's the real question.
And usually when anybody makes money, if you
have some connection to it, you may have
right to take some of that money.
Mm hmm.
OK, Bob, I'm only not completely buying into
that.
Buying into what?
The idea that, well, yeah, the brain works

(01:59:50):
the same way, but you weren't making money.
What if you're a little prodigy and you're
playing Mozart?
You know, you're a six year old that
can play the piano like a maniac.
Yeah, then you paid a fortune to go
play Mozart.
No, hold on, hold on.
If you play something, there's a version of
copyright which is performing rights, royalties that have

(02:00:13):
to be paid.
Yeah, and they're paid.
Yeah, exactly.
So this has, this is not a foreign
concept.
I mean, I'm.
Well, these guys, they've licensed a lot of
stuff.
Some people do get paid.
I mean, I'm not going to be a,
it takes just the devil's advocate side on
this whole thing because I think it's still
up in the air.
And the more interesting clip is the last
clip.

(02:00:33):
But I think clip four is still sitting
in between this and that.
Tell us a little bit more about Midgen
because it's a company that some people will
know about.
A lot of other people won't know much
about.
What sort of things does it do?
If you were asked Disney or Universal, they're
plagiarists.
They're copyright free writers.
That was, I think, the statement made by,

(02:00:55):
by one of the movie studios.
They basically create new content, a new AI
content.
And it's quite vivid and quite interesting.
And that's why it's drawn all these people.
They're real curious and they're being entertained by
it.
That raises the question, do they have the
right to, you know, take characters from Cars
and Toy Story and Shrek and the Avengers

(02:01:19):
and the minions from Despicable Me?
Those are iconic characters.
Can they really take them, pump them into
their servers and create something new based on
that?
And you can make a good argument that
what's being created isn't sufficiently different that they
can claim that they own it.

(02:01:39):
Yeah, well, let us see how the cause
come up with that.
Cathy, we're seeing, you know, Elton John was
talking about this whole problem, the very famous
musician from England.
Are you seeing a similar discussion around?
I mean, huge entertainment industries aren't there like
South Korea, China, India.
Do you think this is an emerging issue
for Asia as well?
Yeah, I think definitely, especially, you know, you

(02:02:02):
mentioned Korea and I can't help but think
of, for example, K-pop groups and how
their likeness might be used in these kind
of AI prompts.
There's also kind of the deeper question beyond
just copyright.
But what about kind of ownership of your
own image?

(02:02:23):
Well, so I do have some outspoken thoughts
on this, but I'll wait until the final
clip goes.
But the, in general, the data that most
of these large language models, because that's what
it is, have been trained on is from
content that people have already signed their rights

(02:02:45):
away to on the internet.
So the best example is Reddit, who are
now doing gangbusters in revenue because they're selling
all of their users writing into multiple AI
companies.
Anything you put on X is Grok's property.
So that's really been the boondoggle, but it

(02:03:06):
is definitely just copying and pasting whenever it
recognizes a pattern that has asked for it
and it just sends it right back.
So, I mean, yeah, the Hollywood guys, they
probably have a little bit, but it's all
third gen from stuff that was put out
there on the internet.

(02:03:26):
So it's going to be tough to prove
that.
Well, the thing that's interesting is this last
clip, and I took about another 10 minutes
out.
I got sick of this.
And so I got near the end here
with this last comment where the woman notices
there's actually three kind of dimensions to this
suit, which involves the input, rights to the

(02:03:51):
input, output, whether it is plagiarism or it's
something, if it's, you know, it can't really
be original, but it looks to be.
And then the one, the other kicker, which
is the one that is really, to me,
interesting is the prompt itself.
And which means that the way the lawsuit's

(02:04:13):
going, the way she sees it, is that
the people writing the prompt, Darren.
They're the ones violating the copyright?
They can be violating the copyright.
Wow.
This is great.
Put it on the dumb user.
The thing that I would keep an eye
on is there's the training part and then

(02:04:33):
there's the output part.
And I just do want to emphasize that
Disney's theory here is that somebody who says,
you know, I want a minion icon for
my blue sky account to chat GP or
one of these engines is infringing copyright.
And they want to hold the company responsible

(02:04:58):
for that, even though it's the user prompting
it.
But the theory requires that the user is
also an infringer.
And I think we should worry about that.
Oh, that's perfect.
Well, yes, I feel, and I'm in agreement
with this.
If you say to any large language model

(02:05:19):
AI thing, I want a minion for my
blog and you put a minion up there.
Yeah, you're violating copyright.
That's why we don't choose art that has
those types of images in it, because we're
not going to put it up there.
We know these companies are very litigious and
we would, in fact, be violating some of
their nascent rights.
Oh, yeah, we're copyright.

(02:05:39):
We're very careful about not putting like Mickey
Mouse image, for example, even people should be
public domain.
I might add.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not going to argue.
That is interesting.
And, you know, I just want to say
I've been the naysayer on artificial intelligence and
Andrew Horowitz sent me Sam Altman's latest blog

(02:06:00):
post, which is basically, did he send it
to you too?
No.
It's like 8,000 words and it's, oh,
the future is going to be great.
And don't worry about it.
He had AI write it.
Of course he had AI write it.
Of course he did.
Then it was just like, oh, this is
awesome.
And the world's going to change in so

(02:06:20):
many ways.
Whatever.
I have worked for probably close to six
hours a day for the past three months
on a software project using multiple versions of
AI.
Then I can inequivocably say there is no
intelligence in this.
And the intelligence, there's a lot of definitions

(02:06:42):
of intelligence, but I think a general term,
a general definition is intelligence is the ability
to learn from experience and adapt to and
shape and select environments.
And the reason why I can, and actually
your own experience, if you go to Anthropic,

(02:07:03):
which I think you use, and you ask
it something because you treat it like an
entity, you ask it, but you ask it
a different way and it gives you a
different answer.
That's because there's no intelligence to interpret what
you're actually asking for what you want.
It is just looking at the pattern of
the words you use and it's looking across

(02:07:23):
its vast array of information it's sucked up
and saying, ah, when this pattern emerges, I
need to bring this pattern back.
And they do that in a human way
by saying, here's what I think you wanted
or here's your end.
They'll talk to you like you're a human
being.
That's the parlor trick.
But when it comes, so that's just English
language.
When it comes to syntax, as in computer

(02:07:46):
code, in this case, Python, if I did
not prompt this, any AI, any AI, every
single time to say, OK, when you make
this change in my code, do not change
the user agent from Godcaster to Mozilla or
PyURL lib.
It would do that by itself.

(02:08:09):
And the reason why it would do that
is even though I've said it, the same
conversation, so-called workspace where it's supposed to
remember what I said, it doesn't because it
just goes, oh, you want this piece of
code, you want it to do this.
I know where that code is and here's
that code.
And it's not intelligent enough to stop doing
what I asked it to not do a
thousand times.

(02:08:29):
And of course, the minute I start typing
into the prompt in all caps, you stupid
piece of crap, that's when I had to
step away and say, OK, now I see
what's happening.
And that, so all of that is fine.
And if people want to spend trillions of
dollars investing in that, great, that's fantastic.
I don't think it's a great, it's like
a thesaurus, grammar, spell check, copy paste machine

(02:08:54):
on steroids.
It definitely has a place as a tool.
It's not intelligence.
I find it fascinating that the big griper,
complainer, moaner and groaner about AIU use it
more than I do.
No, I did this specifically and I stayed
at it because I wanted to be able
to speak intelligently about what this is and

(02:09:15):
what it isn't.
And I finished my project.
I finished it last Saturday.
And it was, yes.
And I could have done this with a
software engineer who knows what he's doing in
one day.
It took me three months, a lot of
pain, but I learned exactly what AI is
and what it isn't.
And there's no intelligence.
The danger, the only danger is this artificial

(02:09:40):
intimacy.
That's the AI that we have to watch
out for.
And we talked about that on the last
show, where people are going to chatbots just
like the 900 numbers.
And in fact, this is from the tech
show in London here.
She talks, flirts and even gets jealous like
a real girlfriend.
Remember, you're my one and only, OK?

(02:10:02):
Don't even think about chatting up other AIs.
But Mio isn't human.
She's an AI-powered virtual companion available 24
-7 through the MyMio app.
Users can chat with her anytime, choose her
clothes and even adjust her personality.
Her creators from the Chinese company Metaloop say
Mio can help tackle the loneliness epidemic.

(02:10:24):
When people feel lonely or people maybe didn't
get connected to the society or didn't have
the girlfriend or sometimes depressed, so maybe they
need someone to move her moves, so then
maybe will come to the apps and talk
to her.
The company says Mio provides emotional support, but

(02:10:46):
reactions at London Tech Week were mixed.
Well, I looked at her and I thought,
stereotypical men's fantasy.
Are we looking at women being obsolete?
Others are concerned about the psychological and ethical
impact of an AI companion.

(02:11:07):
Get to configure them in a way that
really attends to all of your needs.
You don't even know what it is that
you need.
Humans, unfortunately, especially insecure humans are sometimes not
to be really trusted with her.
AI companions like Mio are particularly popular in
East Asia, where Microsoft's SureEyes leads the market

(02:11:30):
with hundreds of millions of users.
So it's young men who are lonely all
because of their phones.
All would have been solved by forced socialization.
I'm with you.
And sock hops in high school.
I am completely with you.
It's not too late to bring them back.
We can do a world tour.
Adam's Adam Curry and John C.
Dvorak sock hop.

(02:11:51):
We can go out there.
We'll play stairway to heaven to all these
kids.
And God only knows by the Beach Boys
is going to be fantastic.
No, I am genuinely concerned about this intimacy
and this loneliness.
And people are going to they're already flocking
to these things.
I mean, the the.
I think your your parallel with the 900

(02:12:12):
number is apt.
Yeah, psychics, you know, Dionne Warwick.
Remember, she had the psychic hotline.
And this is for lonely people.
And we have only.
Made more lonely people in the world who
at this point are all clicking and very
frustrated because at this moment, both Cloudflare and

(02:12:33):
Google Cloud are down all over the world.
The entire service is down.
I hope people are still listening to the
show.
Well, we don't use that kind of stuff.
No, it's true.
We have our own.
This, by the way, is why we have
donations, because we have our own independent server
network that is run by our guy.

(02:12:55):
Our guy.
Boy, zero.
Our guy.
That's right.
Is our guy.
He's our guy.
He was a guy who is really good.
He's one guy.
He's doing a pretty good job.
That one guy.
And we have servers that are located outside
the United States and they're not on Google
Cloud.
They're not on the cloud.
No, but Cloudflare.
That's that's going to.
That's pretty bad when Cloudflare gets taken.

(02:13:17):
A lot of podcasts are on Cloudflare.
A lot of them.
And they're blaming it on a third party
service that is key and is a key
dependency.
One of our microservices problem.
Not so it's a microservices problem with a
macroservices results, everybody.
And with that, I want to thank you
for your courage saying the morning to you,
the man who put the C and don't

(02:13:38):
copy that floppy say hello to my friend
on the other end, the one, the only
Mr. John C.
DeVore.
1946.

(02:14:00):
That's up.
That's what's up for.
Oh, it's up because of the riots.
No, it's up because of the the breastfeeding.
All the women came back.
We got to listen to what let's listen
to what those two boomers have to say.
I'll just bring a few boobers.
Those two boobers, what they have to say.
Yes, indeed, we are here and the trolls
are joining us.

(02:14:20):
Oh, I have a clip blitz for the
second after the break.
Holy crap.
Let me get my jingles.
I just thought I'd give you a warning.
Fair warning.
Yeah, OK.
All right.
OK, I'll be ready for you for the
clip.
Let's all right.
Yes, the trolls in the troll room at
trollroom.io. Again, not a Cloudflare or Google

(02:14:41):
Cloud hosted service because we know how the
Internet works.
We didn't even get psyoped into using all
of that big Silicon Valley tech.
Oh, no, we have big Northern Holland tech
from void zero.
Yeah, dependable.
He was actually troubleshooting email with him this
morning.
But I love that guy.
He's like, hey, man, everything's slow.
No problem.
We'll troubleshoot it right now.

(02:15:01):
I'm prepping for the show.
Yeah, but we'll troubleshoot it right now.
OK, good.
They are listening at trollroom.io. They might
also.
You should be using a modern podcast app.
Now, I can't say that people who are
hosting a podcast hosted on cloud through Cloudflare
that they will get the podcast.
But your podcast app will work for sure.

(02:15:23):
Get one of those.
We notify you the minute we go live.
All the live shows.
It's the new trend in podcasting people doing
it live because we're all sick and tired.
We're sick and tired of all the overproduced
wall of sound crap with all the ums
and ahs taken out.
No, you want to hear real voices.
Now, we happen to be professional voices, but

(02:15:43):
it doesn't matter.
We want to hear the real voices.
And when they go live, it's real.
You get a notification for that.
And when we publish.
And the guys at Apple are listening.
They they do hear me.
They didn't say they would.
How do you know this?
Because one of my buddies over there emailed
me that I put the wrong size image
into the podcast feed.

(02:16:06):
So if you don't have a three, like
a fourteen hundred by fourteen hundred image.
And you've been doing this for so long.
Yeah, it's there's reasons for that happening.
It's it's it's user error.
My fault.
But he's actually a listener.
He's been a no agenda guy for a
long, long time.

(02:16:26):
So he'll see it come through.
And if you put the wrong size image
in, then they won't display it in their
podcast app.
Then you know what he does?
He lets it go through because he's my
boy.
So I know I know that they're hearing
it.
And I know that the people who work
within the podcast division are good people.
I just don't think they have the power.

(02:16:47):
You know, they have to.
They're sitting there looking like, oh, my God,
we got another update from Tim Apple.
Liquid Glass is gorgeous.
Look at the new icon for the podcast
app.
It's gorgeous.
They're like, can we get pod being in
here already?
So I feel your pain, everybody.
Yes.
Whenever we publish within 90 seconds, boom, you
get notified and your podcast is there as

(02:17:08):
long as it's not hosted on Cloudflare.
But of course, podcasting was never meant to
be decentralized.
It's decentralized by nature.
So we expect a lot more people checking
in with us because like I can't get
my I can't get Megan Kelly.
Tucker won't work.
Oh, I have to go to these two
boobs with these boomers.
No agenda.
Oh, that's actually a pretty good show.
Oh, that's interesting.

(02:17:29):
So we shall see if if attendance goes
up and if downloads go up, not that
we look at them.
Now, as John mentioned, this is value for
value is how we run the show.
That's actually Void Zero started that a long
time ago with the IRC chat room, now
known as the troll room.
But many people do things for us.

(02:17:51):
Just I mean, things that are invaluable, really.
I mean, building, maintaining website, even a costly
way.
If you want a website built these days.
I mean, even just a WordPress blog that
kind of looks like a website.
You're looking at five grand for someone to
put that together and another like $350 a
month just to host it and maintain it.

(02:18:12):
So these are very valuable services that people
do for us.
Now, we have three types of value we'd
like you to send back for the value
we put out there for free for everybody
to use.
However you want, you listen to it, you
download it, you stick it on a USB
stick, you give it to your kids, you
put it in the in the lock box,
whatever you do, and you can do that
with time, talent or treasure.

(02:18:33):
We're going to thank people $50 and above,
and we'll tell you exactly how they blessed
us with their value donation.
But first, we want to thank another very
important group of people who send us time
and talents.
That is our No Agenda artists who are
pretty much guaranteed to all go to jail
for prompting.
Once that lawsuit's over.
For their illegal prompts.

(02:18:55):
Illegal prompts.
And for episodes.
There'll be a book about it.
Are you going to write it?
You're going to write it?
Illegal prompts now.
No, that's a good one.
Oh, that is a that's a true crime
right there.
True crime thriller.
Illegal prompts.
Episode 1771 was titled Home Depotation.
See what we did there?

(02:19:15):
And the art came from Blue Acorn, who
brought us the LA riots with a clapboard,
a slate that said Influencer Event Scene 33.
We thought that was kind of cool.
We appreciated Blue Acorn doing that for us.
So we use that as the album art.
Let's take a look at some others.

(02:19:36):
It's not even on the page anymore.
We got so much art that came in.
Wow, what happened?
Oh, is it all Darren and Digital 2112,
man?
Yeah, it is.
They just went crazy with the prompts.
You know what?
You know what it is?
This is they've trained AI to do AI
imagery.
I think the prompt is prompting AI.

(02:19:56):
It could be.
Yeah, something like that.
Then what are you going to do?
What are you going to do with your
lawsuit?
Hey, I got nothing to do with it.
For sure.
It's degraded the quality of the art, both
in luminance.
A couple of good pieces coming up.
OK, well, let's see this on page two.
Oh, my goodness.
It's already on page two.
So Darren actually did the No Agenda in

(02:20:18):
the Home Depot logo, which I think is
where we got Home Depotation from, which was
right next to the Influencer Event by Blue
Acorn.
Blue Acorn doesn't necessarily use AI.
I think he's a hybrid artist.
I think he uses half and half.
For one thing, that Influencer Event, Scene 33,
there's no way AI wrote that on there.
No, no, no.

(02:20:39):
And so I also post these on X
and on my Mastodon.
And I got some troll who showed up.
You still have a Mastodon?
I thought you don't use Mastodon.
I have my own.
Oh, that's right.
You have your little instance.
And we have podcastindex.social. So, you know,
I don't look at any of the other

(02:21:01):
stuff, but I got some troll, picked up
a troll, who, by the way, he's actually
a guy who, I think, likes the show.
And let me see if I can find
it.
Because he saw this image says, you want
to backtrack on it not being a big
deal, the riots in Los Angeles.

(02:21:22):
I know, right?
I was like, what is your problem?
He doesn't listen to the show much.
No, I looked at his timeline.
He has tons of retweets.
And let me see if I can find
it.
Wait, under.
Because he was going off on me.
Oh, how was your USAID trip to Moscow?

(02:21:45):
Coincidence that your uncle was a top CIA
guy?
I can't trust you anymore.
Like, really?
Let me see.
Where was it?
Where was he?
No, I don't think I can find him.
I don't trust you anymore.

(02:22:06):
That was how many decades ago?
Yeah, no, here he is.
Here he is.
Oh, here it is.
Here it is.
Okay, I found it.
We got boots on the ground from someone
who works at Palantir, LOL.
And just so everybody knows, these are good
guys.
WTF, Adam?
The show has gone from absolutely can't miss
to borderline unlistenable.
Neither of you are stupid, so it's got

(02:22:27):
to be something else.
So I reply, pro tip, you forgot to
say we're Zionist chills.
Bro, bro, if your response to criticism is
that I'm a troll, very disappointing.
We've engaged on here many times.
If your response to Palantir having a direct
line into the White House is no biggie,

(02:22:49):
then the show is a lost cause.
Imagine quitting weed and becoming more retarded.
I mean...
And then it was back and forth.
That's a good one.
There's one last one.
You listen to someone for three to eight

(02:23:09):
hours a week over many years, it's easy
to detect a disturbance in the force.
I get that you got QAnon'd, but you've
been taking it out on your producers for
two years and the show has turned into
a Jesus Boomer slop.
I don't trust you.

(02:23:30):
He made it clear he doesn't trust you.
Yes, I think he doesn't trust me.
I think there's a...
We have a lack of trust with this
particular individual.
A lack of trust.
And I'm very sorry.
But there was no specifics.
No.
Well, no, but that, you know, I went
to...
I mean, has he caught you saying something
that's completely inaccurate and you're lying like they

(02:23:51):
do on the...
mainstream news?
He said that I had said we got
our boots on the ground from selling a
Palantir and then he misquotes me by saying
it's no biggie, everything's okay.
I'm like, no, I didn't say that.
I said, it's bullcrap.
This whole Whitney Webb Palantir is going to
take over.

(02:24:11):
Oh, he's a Whitney Webb guy.
Yes, of course.
Whitney Webb's cute.
It's probably Whitney Webb.
It's Whitney Webb's alt account.
All right.
Anyway, onward.
Thank you very much, Blue Acorn.
We appreciate you and all of the No
Agenda artists.
And wow.
I also, I appreciate that little Twitter diatribe.

(02:24:31):
It's always fun to do the voice again.
Now let us thank the executive...
You do the voice every show.
Not always.
Let's thank our executive and associate executive producers
for episode 1772.
Yes.
1772.
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We just be happy if everybody just did
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(02:25:13):
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But no one does that.
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Is it 2% or is it not
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(02:25:34):
I think, like I see the whole spreadsheet.
We still have people giving us $2, $2
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A lot of $4.
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(02:26:16):
which sounds very Dutch, who is in Aurora,
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And he kicks it off by saying, grace,
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And this donation is a switcheroo for my

(02:26:38):
smoking hot wife, Barbara Kelkoff, in recognition of
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Barbara and I have been married almost 39
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She is the kindest, most giving person I
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She volunteers with numerous organizations, but always has

(02:26:59):
times for her friends and her husband.
She has turned our new house into a
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We started listening to No Agenda back before
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(02:27:20):
And No Agenda was at the top of
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Please, would you de-douche Barbara?
You've been de-douched.
And he also says, because it's her birthday,
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They always give me a biscuit on my
birthday.
Keep up the great work and feel free

(02:27:41):
to end podcasting once all things domestically and
internationally leave nothing left to deconstruct.
I'll have her contact you with her official
dame name.
Good.
We look forward to that.
Al Kolkoff.
So it's a surprise.
Happy birthday, Barbara.
Sounds like you got a good man there.
Thank you very much, Al, for the support
of the show.
Onward with Richard Hollow.

(02:28:03):
He's in...
Hollow.
He's in a Deutschland in the town of
Schler...
What?
Schlersee, I guess.
I think it was Schliersee.
Schliersee.
Dear Adam.
Dear John.
Jobs, karma for all.
He came in with a thousand dollars.
Boom, shakalaka.

(02:28:24):
Health, karma for all.
Love my wife, love my children and my
dog.
Best wis...
Wiss...
Wisses.
Best wisses...
Wishes.
Richard, retired headmaster in Schliersee.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.

(02:28:45):
You got karma.
All right, Richard.
Richard, Richard.
Danka.
Eric Kessler, Kansas City, Missouri.
333.33. We love those threes.
Thank you for providing the best podcast in
the universe.
I continue to learn how to spot slanted
news stories and your deconstruction of the media

(02:29:06):
is worth every penny.
Shout out to all the boots on the
ground too.
You got it, man.
Thank you.
Now we have anonymous.
Parts Unknown, 333.33. I hope this email
finds you well.
Well, Adam might have a general disdain for
actual Indians.

(02:29:29):
Wait a minute.
I do not have a disdain for actual
Indians.
Well, maybe he's talking about AI and that's
code.
Oh, okay.
I don't know.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Good point.
Good point.
C slander.
Duck, duck goes.
AI summarizes it as polite, but comes across
as overused or insincere.

(02:29:50):
And that's why people prefer to use more
engaging alternatives.
Hopefully that's the first and last time I
will ever use that opener.
Which is, I hope this email finds you
well.
This is a very spooky note from an
anonymous source.
Speaking of AI, maybe young males are lonely
and using AI chat box to interact with

(02:30:11):
because, as John has alluded to, they can't
interact with women properly.
Why?
Got every trope in here they can think
of.
Because they literally, they like, why?
Because they likely unfunny.
Slur using degenerates or just the water.

(02:30:36):
Now, did I read that wrong?
But it takes it, but take that information
with a grain of salt since that information
did come from a tic-tac.
Regarding the, this is code for somebody.
Yeah, something's going on, yeah.
Regarding the wildfire smoke, do we have a
short-term memory or something, M5M?

(02:30:58):
When was the last time Western Canada wasn't
on fire during the summer?
Yeah, thank you.
Good point.
Jingles, TTP jobs karma.
What's in, what's that in your mouth?
Don't look over here.
Thank you for your courage.
Don't look over here.
Nothing to see here.
Ooh, look at that.
What's that in your mouth?

(02:31:18):
Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs.
Job, job.
You've got karma.
All right, nice sequence.
And Drew McArdle is in Lafayette, Louisiana, 333
and wants some baby-making karma with a
goat.
ITM boys, Drew McArdle from Baton Rouge here.
I've been on the 2019 $20 and 19

(02:31:39):
cents night layaway program since December of 2019
And I finally crossed the threshold to knighthood
I wonder if more people will be coming
people who started that on the 20th of
December 2019 Check your amounts of people you
may be a knight or a dame I'm
donating this 333 to establish my knight name

(02:32:00):
as sir droodle on a noodle protector of
the red stick and laffy taffy Also, I'd
like to call out my brother Ben McArdle
my father Frank McArdle And my best friend
Caleb Michaelson as douchebag Thank you for your
courage.
Love you both and I mean it you've

(02:32:25):
got Karma Good luck anonymous in Alicante,
España 200 and No The prompt was on
it right in the middle of it the
big plus-size 303 of the nation Yes,

(02:32:47):
and he's anonymous from Spain, but that's it's
really didn't really send.
You know, let's give him a double up
karma You've got And we moved to our
first associate executive producer with $240 Lynn Craig
from Colorado Springs, Colorado.
No note.
So Lynn also gets a double up karma

(02:33:10):
Karma Now we have the Commodore dude named
Ben in San Francisco 220-222 that's a
row of ducks Commodore dude named Ben Duke
of the San Francisco reminds the Bay Area
Navy to To say me up me up
meet up at the dog patch saloon this

(02:33:31):
Saturday at 333 Let's escape the control grid
To beat some nice protests going on too
and he has Hashtag hot pockets hashtag pina
colada escape Just

(02:34:17):
Thank you very much Commodore dude named Ben
we move on to Sean Holman from Noblesville,
Indiana 21911 ah, that's the code right there
book of Jonah He says his love endures
forever Peace and blessings Adam and John.
Thank you, brother Frank Maloney in Sister Bay,

(02:34:40):
Wisconsin He was a d-douching You've been
d-douched Came in with $210 and 60
cents Frank Maloney and his big country unit
Sister Bay His big country units.
He's got us all scrambled here So I'm
not sure what he's referring to and he

(02:35:00):
says his big country unit sounds like I'm
assuming it's big and a band Us Could
be Sister Bay, Wisconsin available whenever you wherever
you stream music.
So it's okay.
Frank Maloney is big country unit Sister Bay,
Wisconsin.
There you go.
Check it out Frank Maloney.
Check it out.
Let's will be good We'll check it out
and we will do I do some jingles

(02:35:21):
for us Frank Eli the coffee guy is
back with 206 12 He says John last
Thursday show you ask if our Ethiopian Guiji
organic is peaberry coffee It is not Peaberry
has nothing to do with the size of
the bean Although peaberry beans are generally smaller
You can tell the peaberry from its roundness

(02:35:42):
as supposed as opposed to its size The
peaberry is actually a mutation in about 5
% of coffee beans where the bean develops
one cherry instead of the regular Two cherries
which makes for a more intense flavor profile
in a denser bean Jingles the more, you
know In the morning All this peaberry talk

(02:36:05):
makes us want to bring back our Papua
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Eli the coffee guy and Eli actually got
a free plug on DH unplugged Which is
not true because it's very pluggy that unplugged

(02:36:27):
you plugged him Yes, I did I mentioned
him and now that he's got the peaberry
I expect a bag that's right after Andrew
Horowitz said That as a Jew, he doesn't
like people harping on China I Was on
the floor It was pretty wild But he
also mentioned the key that he's gotten to

(02:36:48):
the point where he can't drink coffee It
gives him, you know GERD or something.
I don't know GERD GERD that doesn't sound
good Luke Frank Castaneda in Austin, Texas Sergeant
that's sergeant Fred Sergeant our red.
I said Frank.
Yeah, that's red sergeant Fred.

(02:37:09):
Did he not send in it?
He always sends in a note.
So no, this is a check.
This is a bank check.
That's why it's great Sergeant Fred he is
a Vietnam War veteran.
Let me just make sure I didn't get
an email from him Castaneda Yeah, he may
have sent you a note.
I'm looking for it, but I don't I
don't see anything Maybe he just wants to

(02:37:30):
double up karma.
Well, he's getting a double up karma.
We love you sergeant Fred good to hear
Very happy to hear from him.
I'm glad he's okay.
He had some Agent Orange issues.
Oh, yeah Yeah, he's a good man a
veteran and a real American And rounding it
out with $200 is Linda Lou Patkin from

(02:37:52):
Lakewood, Colorado And Linda's asked for jobs karma
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(02:38:13):
town more befitting my stature at the roundtable
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(02:38:35):
You've got Karma There you go Beautiful Mary
that takes care of show 1772 as we
approach 1776 that's gonna be a banger of
a show.
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(02:39:18):
executive producers.
Our formula is this We go out we
hit people in the mouth Oh

(02:39:41):
We do have a deal with China though
Don't know if he Supposedly, well, here's the
I have the latest here.
Hold on a second.
This is the latest we got a deal
after two days of negotiations between the u
.s And Chinese trade representatives president Trump declared
in a social media post Wednesday that a
trade deal with China is done While acknowledging

(02:40:03):
both he and Chinese President Xi Jinping still
have to approve a final agreement He spoke
to his trade team who did a fantastic
job Negotiating this on behalf of the United
States and meeting with their Chinese counterparts The
president is talking to them about the details
of it now But what the president heard
he liked president said the u.s Will
keep a 55% tariff on Chinese imports

(02:40:24):
while China will keep a 10% tariff
on American goods Trump also said Beijing will
supply the u.s with magnets and rare
-earth minerals, which are vital to a number
of industries This is an American agreement if
you're an American company and you need magnets
They are going to approve it right away
Which is what we needed commerce secretary Howard

(02:40:45):
Lutnick told CNBC China agreed to do more
business with the u.s Including buying more
u.s. Agriculture and equipment.
That's quite the deal if that's true man
55% tariffs and we get all the
magnets we can stick together All the magnets
our kids can swallow that's dynamite the kind

(02:41:06):
of magazine you don't want your kid to
swallow.
No.
No, I'm sure Okay.
Well and China seems to be happy with
it Well, I think that part of that
deal which they don't talk about since that
they when they break down the tariffs 25
% of that 50 is for the fentanyl
Another part that which could do in other

(02:41:27):
words down the road somewhere China can you
know, just put the stop to a couple
of things I'll just pull the rug out
from under a lot of those tariffs.
It'll be back down to about 20%
Maybe oh, I see.
There's something fishy about that number Yeah, well
as long as everyone's happy, which we can't
look like, you know It reminds me is
the thing you brought up earlier the 5
% three and a half percent, you know,
yeah one thing but another It's what you

(02:41:49):
do it's the art of the deal, baby
Can't say the same for Iran, although who
knows a developing story now overseas the US
government is evacuating some diplomats and military families
from the Middle East because of rising tensions
with Iran by the way I'm not so
sure the term evacuating is correct because from

(02:42:09):
what I read it was voluntary for the
for the Dependents to come home so spouses
children, etc But sounds a little scarier when
you say they're being evacuated and threats of
an attack on u.s Basis ABC's Perry
Russum has details Perry.
Good morning, Rihanna Good morning to you The
threat posed by Iran is prompting the u
.s to prepare a partial evacuation of the

(02:42:31):
embassy in neighboring Iraq Officials say the evacuation
of u.s. Diplomats in Baghdad will begin
via commercial flights with the military on standby
if needed There's also a voluntary evacuation of
military family members at bases in the region
including those in Bahrain and Kuwait President Trump
speaking last night about the growing security concerns.
They are being moved out because it could
be a dangerous place and We'll see what

(02:42:53):
happens, but they are better.
We've given notice to move out And this
comes after Iran earlier this week threatened to
target all u.s bases in the region
if Negotiations over its nuclear weapons program failed
to reach a deal those talks between the
US and Iran resume on Sunday in Oman
so I Didn't like this report because they

(02:43:13):
they make it sound like Iran is we're
gonna bomb your bases BBC version of the
same report you might want to play Yeah,
and then I want to pay then I
want to play the France 24.
Let me see your Iran Here we go.
The United States is preparing to move some
staff and their families from its embassy in
Iraq Okay, that's a little more nuanced as

(02:43:35):
well as from military bases in Kuwait in
Bahrain Officials say the partial evacuations down to
what they describe as heightened security risks in
the region Our State Department correspondent Tom Bateman
reports from Washington The move comes after weeks
of talks between the US and Iran President
Trump has hoped to strike a deal to
stop Tehran developing a nuclear weapon, but he

(02:43:57):
said today he was growing less confident It
would stop enriching uranium Earlier this week He
also held a 40-minute phone call said
to be tense with Israel's prime minister who
has long argued for a military rather than
diplomatic approach Iran's Defense Minister said today the
country would target US military bases in the
region if a conflict was imposed upon it

(02:44:19):
All right.
Let's listen to the France 24 version I
made a feared deadlock in nuclear talks tensions
between the US and Iran have flared up
again After a week-long war of words
Donald Trump confirmed that US diplomats were being
removed from the region well, they are being
moved out because it could be a dangerous

(02:44:39):
place and We'll see what happens, but they
are better.
We've given notice to move out American and
Iranian Negotiators have been planning to meet later
this week for another round of talks But
Trump told reporters on Monday that Iran had
adopted an unacceptable negotiating position in particular on

(02:45:00):
Enrichment a u.s. Backed plan suggested that
Iran could only enrich uranium at low levels
Effectively blocking Iran's ability to enrich the fuel
to produce a nuclear weapon.
Well, they're just asking for things that you
can't do They don't want to give up
what they have to give up.
You know what that is They seek enrichment

(02:45:22):
We can't have enrichment they have given us
Their thoughts on the deal and I said,
you know, it's just not acceptable Many are
concerned about the risk of a potential regional
conflagration between Iran and Israel should diplomacy fail
Israeli officials have repeatedly threatened to attack Iran
if it does not effectively surrender its nuclear

(02:45:45):
program on Wednesday the Iranian defense minister issued
a warning in the event that the talks
broke down God willing the talks will bring
results But if they don't and conflict is
imposed to us Enemies losses would be greater
than ours in that case America will have
to leave the region Because all its bases
are within our reach and without hesitation Analysts

(02:46:12):
say that Iran is now on the brink
of being able to manufacture enough nuclear material
to fuel a nuclear weapon The only ones
who got it right no one else tagged
the story with they're just a week away
Yeah, just a week away.
You can't leave that in there I we
also got I had to we both got
a boots on the ground report from one
of our military guys Who's talking about they

(02:46:33):
how they're moving equipment around?
I have it here.
You want me to read it?
No, I think it's I Don't want you
to read it.
Okay, I won't read it the but the
point is is that all this including that
note All seem to be and what's happening.
It doesn't seem to be secret.

(02:46:54):
No, this is all Posturing to scare the
crap out of the Iranians.
It takes us.
We're moving all our people out of the
old He's gonna take the basis.
There's gonna be anybody there.
They're gonna be gone We're it's looking like
they're leaving them sitting there Iran as sitting
ducks Wait a minute is Israel controlling us
again, John Well, I think we're controlling us

(02:47:16):
Controlling us.
They bombed them already.
Of course they would have bombed him by
now, but the point is is that this
is all part of the Negotiating process that
Trump uses.
Yeah, and it's like Yeah, well, you know
what's gonna happen?
Yeah, and everything seems to be A Bull

(02:47:39):
it's not I wouldn't call it a bluff
because I think they could bomb them.
Yeah, but it's definitely Messages are going out.
You're gonna get bombed if you don't do
the deal and we're gonna be out of
here We're moving our bases.
We're taking people home.
You know, yeah, go ahead bomb the empty
base big deal.
Yeah Yeah, if I was a run I

(02:48:01):
just do the deal I don't understand what
the problem is for some reason though the
I'm looking at the quad like People are
still mad about Los Angeles.
They're not worried about Iran at all that
I don't understand They're not not taking the
bait.
They're not doing it If I see the
ruthless podcast has joined the Will Cain show.

(02:48:21):
Wow, that's riveting I did pick up a
nice a little just a short clip From
the president on an Air Force one gaggle
a gaggle Where now and actually the DH
unplugged podcast every single Tuesday goes live in

(02:48:42):
the evening you pick it up on Wednesday
It's a great podcast about things in the
markets and and John and Andrew waffling about
China.
It's good.
It's good show I listen to it.
I listen to it all the time Talking
about the trial balloons being let up let
into the air about a future Or the
next or maybe nearer future chairman of the

(02:49:04):
Federal Reserve Yeah I don't think you guys
got this clip in time for the show.
Maybe it was after that but here President
Trump Explained something which is exactly what your
best podcast in universe discussed months ago And
if we had a good Fed chairman you

(02:49:25):
would lower rates and you know what if
inflation happened in a year from now or
two Years, let him raise rates, but we're
going out for long-term debt or short
-term debt we have a lot of debt
coming due because Biden had all short-term
debt mostly and We would get a lower
rate and a lower interest rate if this
guy Would lower rates we get a lower
interest rate It's unbelievable and he's worried about

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inflation if he worries about inflation any longer
All he has to do is get the
lower rate Let us go out borrow at
a much lower rate much lower You could
go down a point or two.
We'll go out borrow, but and if in
two years inflation comes back he raises rates
But he keeps him the same So

(02:50:14):
there it is exactly what we discussed he
wants the Fed to lower the rate so
we can refi refi the country Which is
a good idea and then Trump says if
inflation goes up you raise the race, but
then we'll have longer-term inflation Everybody's got
the stable coin, and it'll be good to

(02:50:35):
go.
We'll lower our interest payments How at this
point is Jerome Powell just not an American?
Is he not patriotic?
Why doesn't he do this the ECB has
lowered rates eight times?
The way the Fed is structured right now.

(02:50:55):
They don't believe what Trump says is the
is gonna work Is gonna work They don't
think that you can't you they see that
the interest rates are always pegged to inflation
and Unless there's a Economic downturn there's no
reason to lower the rates.

(02:51:16):
It's just a rule the way they see
it.
Yeah, but that's thinking about Strategizing that you
know refinancing the country.
They're just not none of the on the
agenda.
They're never right by the way Thank you,
why would they be right now?
Why are they always wrong?
Yeah, but it seems like the right thing
to do Doesn't mean a thing By the

(02:51:39):
way in Europe now Having over 3,000
euros in your possession is about to become
illegal What yep?
Yep, you are not allowed to have more
than 3,000 euros in cash Why because
that means you're criminal That you there's no

(02:52:00):
way you need that kind of money for
any legal matter.
You should be using banks and stablecoin or
bill or the what anything the The digital
euro whatever it is.
They are getting rid of cash You cannot
have more than 3,000 euros cash in
your possession, or you will be deemed suspect
and probably involved in criminal activity Yep, that's

(02:52:26):
bullcrap.
Yeah, in fact a Dutch guy Was caught
some people like having cash Yeah was caught
caught at the at the border with Germany.
He had a like a mini fridge in
the back He had a hundred and twenty
four thousand euros in there hidden Then off
the jail you go What do you need

(02:52:47):
that cash for would you get that cash
you better tell us about that cash?
You can't have that cash.
That's not good at that cash.
You are probably involved in illegal criminal activity
aren't you meanwhile?
Everybody's making bank on the drug trade through
the Netherlands This is the the port of
a preference for shipping your drugs into Europe

(02:53:09):
I'm sure sanctioned by politicians at all Yeah,
it's bad.
It's bad.
You cannot have cash Well you want to
do the clip blitz oh, okay, I'm sorry
I was a little underprepared I Know I

(02:53:29):
know I know I know you told me
you you told me earlier blitz, okay, all
right clip blitz Ladies and gentlemen we haven't
done in a long time here.
We go All right everybody it's time for
a clip blitz John C ABC 7 Mark
Brown talking about how people enjoy watching cars
burn large group of people it could turn

(02:53:51):
very Volatile if you move law enforcement in
there in the wrong way and turn what
is just a bunch of people having fun
watching cars burn into a massive confrontation and
altercation between officers and demonstrators All right clip
blitz was under F.
I s why F.

(02:54:12):
I Sy little judge has ruled the Trump
administration cannot continue to detain Mahmoud Khalil on
the basis of Secretary of State Marco Rubio's
determination.
He's a threat to American foreign policy goals
It's unclear whether Khalil will soon be released
from the immigration detention center in Louisiana Where
he's been held since ICE agents arrested him

(02:54:33):
in early March Judge paused his own ruling
until Friday to give the government time to
appeal It's another no agenda The NEA chief
kind of forgetting what the wordage of the
Declaration of Independence is All

(02:55:00):
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of
justice!
Man 33!
That's right!
Something like that!
You know the thing!
You know the thing!
Sun Poles!
Sun Poles?
France and Saudi Arabia are gathering countries for
a conference next week at UN headquarters in

(02:55:20):
New York to support the recognition of a
power I'm sorry, that's the wrong one.
Here you go.
Sun Poles!
And the European Space Agency's released the first
ever images of the Sun's South Pole The
footage taken from a solar orbiter spacecraft shows
a shimmering bright atmosphere Interspersed with dark clouds
of gas Scientists hope it'll help them understand
why the sun's poles switch from north to

(02:55:42):
south and back again every 11 years Red
33!
Blitz!
These are good, I missed them!
World Bank!
The World Bank is to end a long
-standing ban on the funding of nuclear energy
projects in developing countries to help meet soaring
electricity needs It said demand for electricity in

(02:56:03):
poorer countries is expected to more than double
in the next 10 years Clip Blitz!
And you can close the locker room doors,
that's it.
I'm sorry, close the...
I'm screwing it up, where is it?
Locker room doors?
I don't think we have a locker room...
No, I'm saying that the Clip Blitz is
over.
Oh, the Clip Blitz is over!

(02:56:23):
Clip Blitz!
Woo, thank you!
I'm gonna show my salute by donating to
No Agenda Imagine all the people who could
do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab Yeah,
on No Agenda In the morning Wow, way
to bring back the Clip Blitz, haven't had
one of those in a long time Those
of you who stuck with us this long

(02:56:44):
are joyous, of course And right now we
are waiting for the tip of the day
We've got the end of show mixes We
have some meetup reports We've got birthdays, nights,
PhDs And John is now going to thank
the rest of our supporters Value4Value, who supported
us $50 or more Right at the top
of the list is Dame Rita, once again

(02:57:05):
And from Sparks, Nevada, 12345 Oh, she says
ITM Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina, 10535
Greg Marshall in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, 100 David
Van Den Brond in Turnard Turnhard Oh, Turnhard,

(02:57:30):
I'm sorry, Turnhard That's what I said Turnhard,
yeah Happy birthday to me, he writes Happy
birthday to me, Jew money Woo, we got
some Jew money There it is We got
some Jew money, finally Nice, thanks, brother Jew
money And then he has a little comment
for you In Dutch Well, it says it's
his birthday Morgen weer een jaartje erbij en

(02:57:51):
voor jullie Oh, stop, roofers En voor jullie
wat extra omdat het telkens weer lukt om
een smile op mijn face te krijgen All
right, thank you Harry Klan in Aledo, Texas,
$100 Sir Uncle Cave Bear in Millboro, Virginia,
$100 This is from the Witten Family Reunion

(02:58:14):
Kevin McLaughlin, there he is, in Concord, North
Carolina He is the Archduke of Luna lover,
American lover of boobs This is a 1772
donation, 8008 Sir Alex in Kiley, Texas Kyle,
Kyle, Kyle 7061, he's got a long note
This is some sort of a knighting or

(02:58:35):
something That means we have to read it
I will read it right away In the
morning, gents, I'm making this $67 donation for
the 67 days our daughter spent in the
NICU Is this Alex Zavala?
Yes, Sir Alex And I want to launch
the Father's Day NICU Dad Donation Challenge I
challenge all no-agenda NICU dads to donate
this Father's Day in honor of the number

(02:58:56):
of days your baby spent in the NICU
That's the Natal Intensive Care Unit Also, be
sure to check out the NICUDAD.com which
is a great podcast Join the NICU Dad
Push-Up Challenge to help raise awareness about
NICU Dad mental health Thanks again for all
the support Can I get some goat karma?
And I love my truck I was also
made a baron a few weeks back but

(02:59:17):
I wanted to use this donation to request
a name change Can I be dubbed Baron
Zavala, Guardian of the NICU and Champion of
the NICU Dads?
Of course Thanks for all you do And
a special thanks to you, Adam and Tina
for your support We're so grateful If you
are a NICU Dad or no one check
out the NICUDAD.com and the NICU Dad
on all our social media platforms And thanks

(02:59:40):
again Yes, I'll give him some goat karma
if you do the truck Get it Well,
you do the truck first Oh, I do
the truck first?
I love my truck and I love what
I do There you go You've got Karma

(03:00:00):
Here's another note for you to read Oh,
do I have this one?
Yeah, you do.
It's on the PDF Okay This is from
Todd Grubb.
He's in Imlay City, Michigan and came with
6933 But in fact, this is knighting He's
gotten up to $2,000 This is K
-PAC Chiropractic He says, we started listening to

(03:00:21):
the show with the early part of COVID
kicked in the mouth by some douchebag on
Twitter This donation puts me over $2,000
in donation Completed two 20-month, $50 nighthood
layaways via PayPal Some are under Okay, he
has all these different names This note does
not need to be read But he does

(03:00:42):
want to be de-douched You've been de
-douched And he'll be knighted Sir Todd, Knight
of Cows and Pigs and Chickens And he
would like to gift his wife a damehood
for their 20th anniversary And they never had
a fight She would be Dame Josepha, Dame
it all to hell Montreal brisket and seagram's

(03:01:04):
very own at the round table And she
would like gigolos and blow Okay, I'm going
to get to gigolos and blow Is she
on the list?
I believe so I don't think so I'm
looking at the list Yeah, we do We
have a dame We have a dame Joseph

(03:01:26):
Grubb James Josephena Dame it all to hell
Oh, I said, look at the wrong Of
course Of course, James rarely makes a mistake
No, rarely Which is good Jay does not
make mistakes Okay, onward with Chad Hewitt He's
Folsom, California, 6640 Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado,

(03:01:49):
6006 Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 6006 Matt
Lambert in Fuquay, Verena, North Carolina, 5272 Hakan
Andresen in Portland, Oregon, 5272 Commodore G in
Cincinnati, 5167 Paolo, Paolo, Paolo Paolo Moore in

(03:02:14):
Fort Washington, Maryland, 5150 And he says, 5150,
Cali is crazy Referring to Southern California And
there they are Bad Idea Supply Look them
up on Google For all your burning needs,
literally 50-50 Sir Economic Hitman in Tombill,

(03:02:35):
Texas, 5001 And now we have $50 donors
starting with William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas René
Knig Knigge Knigge In Utrecht Utrecht Utrecht
Netherlands, 50 Roderick Brown in Mermaid Someplace in

(03:03:01):
Canada P.E. What could that be?
Don't know Poutine Stephen Schumach in Zinnia, Ohio
Matthew Bush Bush In Maple Valley, Washington This
is a happy Father's Day to the best
dad and husband Get those Father's Day mentions

(03:03:22):
in the next show The next donation segment
Next show on Sunday Father's Day, don't forget
Remember Andrew Grasso, Mineola, New York Tom Delvecchio
in Blandon, Pennsylvania Mike Moon in Athens, Georgia
Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California And last
on our, that's actually a pretty short list
today Ethan Reitz Reitz, I believe, in New

(03:03:44):
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania And he's got a biblical thing
to go to Corinthians 15, 1-4 Romans
3, 23, 26 Go look him up Yes,
Tim Delvecchio And yes, it's 1 Corinthians 15,
1-4 Thank you all very much to

(03:04:06):
these donors $50 and above We love your
support We do not do anything under $50
The guarantee anonymity We don't want to screw
anything up So we just stop it right
there But we see you $49.99 We
appreciate everybody Every single donation Those smaller amounts
really do add up And we appreciate you
helping us out that way as well You

(03:04:27):
can support us for the next episode As
John said, it is Father's Day So consider
a Father's Day donation for your dad Or
for your husband, who's a great dad Go
to knowagenthedonations.com You can make any kind
of donation you want there There's some suggestions
You can also just set up a sustaining
donation Any amount, any frequency is all up
to you Thank you again for supporting the
best podcast in the universe It's your birthday,

(03:04:50):
birthday Oh, so much And where we had
no birthdays on the last show We have
a couple of this today We have Mitchell
Reeves wishing his wife Sierra Reeves A very
happy 33rd And she celebrates today Mom, Dad,
Cullen and Rune say happy birthday to Nora
She turns 8 tomorrow Al Kelkoff, his smoking

(03:05:12):
hot wife Barbara Boy, does he love her
She celebrates tomorrow And we got David Von
Den Brand And he celebrated today his birthday
And he sent us some Jew money Thank
you very much Happy birthday for everybody here
The best podcast in the universe It's your
birthday, yeah Title changes Turn and face the

(03:05:33):
slaves Title changes Don't want to be a
douche bag Yes, indeed, we just heard him
Sir Alex Shabala now becomes a baron He's
moving up in the peerage at KnowAgenda He
is Baron Shabala, guardian of the NICU And
champion of the NICU dads And that is
definitely worth looking into Because, you know, NICU

(03:05:55):
dads When your kid's in the ICU Dads
have all kinds of different challenges And they
can support each other And he's doing great
work on that And we appreciate all he
does And we appreciate him supporting us And
we have two PhDs to celebrate Barbara Kelkoff
and Richard Hollow Both have become PhDs of
KnowAgenda So what exactly is this PhD?
Is this the Media Deconstruction?

(03:06:17):
Is that what the PhD is?
Yes, this is a rerun of the Media
Deconstruction PhD That's beautiful Beautiful product Yeah, I
got You have one I have one and
someone sent me a picture of theirs On
their wall and they love it a lot
It's good, go to KnowAgendaRings.com That's where
you can let us know Barbara and Richard
Where you want us to send your certificates
And what you want on it And of

(03:06:39):
course everybody can take a look there At
the PhD certificates And also the knight rings
and dame rings And we do have a
couple of knights and a dame We have
Troy Funderburk Who is a layaway knight And
I have a note here Says, I would
like to be Sir Thunder of the Bitterroot
Valley Thank you for the consistent and articulate

(03:07:01):
deconstruction For good measure please Throw in some
baby-making karma As we try for our
second human resource Says Troy Funderburk I will
get that ready for you So we can
roll that out for you in a little
bit But first, why don't we bring them
all up And if you can give me
a blade to work with There you go
That's very good Please, the following people join

(03:07:24):
us here On the podium for the Know
Agenda Knights and Dames We need Troy Funderburk
We need Drew McArdle and Todd Grubb All
three of you gentlemen Are now knights of
the Know Agenda Roundtable And if you don't
mind I'd like to call up Josephina Grubb
Josephina, you are now a dame of the

(03:07:47):
Know Agenda Roundtable I pronounce the KB Sir
Thunder of the Bitterroot Valley Sir Droodle on
a Noodle Protector of the Red Stick And
Laffy Taffy Sir Todd Knight of Cows and
Pigs and Chickens And Dame Josepha Dame at
all tell Who wanted gigolos and blow And
along with that We probably got some Montreal
Biscuits and Seagrams Man, I ran out of

(03:08:08):
time Because we also have mutton and meat
At every single roundtable for our Knights and
Dames The list is ever growing We have
enough chairs for everybody We thank you so
much for supporting the show Go to knowagendarings
.com Look at those handsome rings They're signet
rings So you can use them to seal
your important correspondence We give you some sticks
of wax to do that with Multi-colored
And as always, a certificate of authenticity And

(03:08:30):
our gratitude and thanks for supporting Know Agenda
Know Agenda Meetup Yeah baby, yeah baby, yeah
baby Josh Shipper, the day is on the
way But first we have a couple of
meetup reports The first is from Kodiak I
believe it's in Alaska In the morning, this
is Sir Uncle Cave Bear The washed up

(03:08:52):
artist Reporting live from the Witten Family Reunion
Slash Know Agenda Meetup here in Kodiak, Alaska
We'd all like to thank you, John and
Adam For your courage Oh my gosh, listen
to that horn Don't eat me, Bojiden Chemtrails
In the morning Alright, Kodiak, nice Now we

(03:09:14):
move to the 4th annual Louisiana Crawfish Broil
Know Agenda Meetup report This is Dame Mary
Moon Introducing the 4th annual Louisiana Crawfish Broil
Sir Jew Claw here Ready to go shoot
my noodle gun Dame Tracy of the Roman
Rite They're eating the crawfish David from Baton

(03:09:36):
Rouge In the morning Tess, guest of Dame
Tracy Know Agenda virgin Sir Cane Break Enjoying
the crawfish And fisting my nuts No, not
fisting This is Tyler In the morning Mitch,
enjoying Sir Knight The nuts and the virgin

(03:09:58):
We want to see you next year We
want to buy you in some crawfish This
is Brian In the morning Hey, John You're
a scoundrel Thank you for your courage Isaac
from Lafayette ITM, a listener from the Daily
Source Code Days And this is my first
meetup Awesome, great time Erin from Lafayette, Louisiana

(03:10:19):
Also my first meet in ITM And this
is not a douche Drew, soon to be
Sir Droodle on a noodle In the morning
Let's feed some blind goats Hey!
Don't laugh Why are you laughing?
Alright Shut up Nice production Thank you very
much Meetup's taking place today The Northern Wake

(03:10:43):
Freedom Summer Slam-o-wam-o Kicks off
at 6 o'clock In Raleigh, North Carolina
At Hoppy Endings Tomorrow Calling all Gitmo Nordics
Urs on meetup Yes, this is the big
Copenhagen, Denmark At Michalers-Baghaven-Reffen You better
be there Paul Pietermann is organizing that And
I want a meetup report Include your servers,
please On Saturday The Lazarusvaart Picnic That is

(03:11:06):
the beach next to the marina In the
old town of Culemborg In the Netherlands Sir
Hendrik Is Sir Hendrik back on his feet
again?
I hope so That's awesome Saturday The Treasure
Valley Meetup 3 o'clock in Eagle, Idaho
Old State Saloon Saturday as well Downtown New
York City 3 o'clock The Six Point
Brewery At Brookfield Place New York, New York

(03:11:28):
JoeNY33 organizing Those guys always have a big
group Include your server I want to hear
all about it As we heard earlier The
Dogpatch San Francisco Summer Meetup Kicks off on
Saturday at 3.30 At Dogpatch Saloon in
San Francisco The Duke of San Francisco hosting
that The Comox Valley Meetup 5 o'clock
Church Street Taphouse In Comox, British Columbia That's

(03:11:49):
on Saturday And also on Saturday Trains, trains,
and more trains No spooks allowed 7.30
in Davenport, Iowa Mickey's Irish Pub Be there
or be lame Coming up International Meetups The
17th of June Cannes, France We have Let's
see Was that the only international one?
The 19th Oh, it was in September Hey,

(03:12:10):
there's a lot of meetups There's always tons
of meetups Always one in the neighborhood You
can find them at noagendameetups.com Go there
Take a look at the lineup If you
can't find a meetup near you Don't panic
It's just like a TED Talk Only without
douchebags Start one yourself Noagendameetups.com Always a
party Sometimes you wanna go Hang out with

(03:12:31):
all the nights and days You wanna be
where you won't be Triggered or hella lame
You wanna be where everybody feels the same
It's like a party And as requested I
never forget a baby making karma For our
new nights You've got Karma And at this

(03:12:59):
point in the show is where we always
like to select our ISO for the end
of the show Bad news I do not
have a single ISO lined up for today
I have one good one Well, you win
that I was gonna pull if you didn't
have a good one Well, you nailed it
Holy crap, what a great show Indeed AI

(03:13:21):
to the rescue You're gonna get sued for
that prompt Dvorak, I'm telling you But first,
before the lawsuit it's time for John's tip
of the day Great advice for you and
me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes
Adam Created by Dana Brunetti All right, this
is some utilities and also just a great

(03:13:44):
nerdy website There's a, I would call him
a meta tech Meta nerd that is just
a fabulous character His name is Chris Titus
He does a lot of videos And he's
like, if you're getting into Linux Yeah You
wanna go to his website christitus.com But

(03:14:06):
if you want the absolute most amazing Windows
utilities He also developed a system called WinUtils
And it would be You get to it
You can't actually download it It runs kind
of in the cloud His cloud Is it
running on Google Cloud?

(03:14:28):
No, it's not working Offline I doubt it,
to be honest about it But the website
you want is winutil.christitus
.com WinUtils And this thing runs only You
have to load it from the You have

(03:14:50):
to load it from the Windows Admin PowerShell
What could possibly go wrong?
Which takes over your whole machine Yeah But
you have to get But he got rules
on how to get there And what to
cut and paste And throw it in there
Once you load this thing It's astonishing It's
got every known utility That you can imagine

(03:15:13):
All free utilities that are available For Windows
in one tab Another tab It's got this
huge pile of checklists To optimize your system
So it runs better It's one thing after
another This guy's This WinUtil product is unbelievable
Wow, that's an endorsement coming from you The
man who wrote the telecommunications book For Windows

(03:15:35):
And I will mention this If you're thinking
about Linux And you just go to his
regular website He is a fanatic about Arch
Linux Yeah And to the point where He
says he's been trying to break it For
over a year He says it's impossible And
he's got tutorials And all kinds of things

(03:15:58):
He's just the guy And it surprises me
That he's not more well known That is
Now you said it was amazing Didn't you?
You said it was just an amazing product?
Yes, I said amazing Oh my god!
That is amazing!
That is an endorsement You can pass up
more At johnstippetheday.net And

(03:16:29):
of course Thank you to Dana Brunetti Where
would we be without Dana Brunetti?
We'd just be up Schitt's Creek without a
paddle And that is The end of our
broadcast day That's it for our deconstruction For
this episode of No Agenda 1772 But it'll
just be three days waiting We'll be back
with 1773 And it is Father's Day So

(03:16:51):
make sure you thank your dad Thank your
husband Thank that important dad in your life
You can do it with a nice note
At noagendadonations.com Ending our show as usual
We will have a couple of end of
show mixes Dee's Laughs comes in from Toronto
Tom Starkweather with some nice little L.A.

(03:17:12):
protest ditties And Nautilus K.
is back with another end of show mix
All fresh, all new, all for you And
up next after we leave the airwaves It
is That Larry Show Episode 489 Larry with
the deep voice He's the man to watch
In the meantime I will say thank you
very much for listening And coming to you

(03:17:34):
from the heart of the Texas hill country
Here in Fredericksburg in the morning everybody I'm
Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley Where
it looks like Saturday is going to be
a winter I'm John C.
Dvorak We return on Sunday Meet us there
And remember us at noagendadonations.com Until then,
adios, spofos, hui hui, and such These automated

(03:17:55):
systems are so lame It's like You can't
afford some dollar an hour person in India
I mean, you can barely speak English It
would be better than this Yeah, the true
A.I. Anonymous Indian, that's what we need
What a sight to see Such a fractured
society When people mindlessly subscribe and see Then

(03:18:17):
they make up their own version of reality
Take a look at Wall Street Are we
in trouble?
Nvidia and A.I. There's a huge bubble
Oracle's literally eliciting And sounding stubborn But Elon's
saying We don't have a habit Surely we're
in trouble Anonymous Indians A.I. and so
many pot schemes Nightmares don't hit the same
When you're living out this Eurodroop Abnormal dreams

(03:18:37):
Being pitched to solve all of our mundane
Monday manuals Human tasks Isn't it a chatbot?
Can it even sort emails?
Don't even ask H1B is not for me,
you see Clarified by Big Pharma Always wanna
harm ya Now he's tryna charm ya He's
got the look To face the snake Rama
Swamy Did his job leading up to the
campaign Bringing in the best talent Was for

(03:18:58):
a gain Can you remove the stain?
Taking 10% off the top-down trade
Brain in the brain Every country should make
its own citizens It's number one priority Not
just cause you check a box As a
visible minority Culture is passion In the city
of the six Many faces to a city
More than six People coming from all over
the world To get a fix Funny undefeated

(03:19:20):
This is not a trick Now is the
time This is an exit strategy For you
and for you only And I would support
it You need to become the tech grouch
And once you're the tech grouch Everybody will
wanna interview you And then you Of course
you gotta Slip around that outfit All over
the place You gotta keep the voice going
Iphone's my phone I got a Bakelite phone

(03:19:41):
It's fine People will love you They will
glom onto the tech grouch I will be
working on it I will be in the
green screen Maybe we are part Of a
national experiment To determine how far The federal
government can go Tuesday's demonstrations Were largely peaceful
Two men are in custody Accused of throwing
Molotov cocktails At law enforcement We're seeing protests

(03:20:02):
pop up In other cities Across the country
National Guard troops Already have detained civilians In
the LA anti-ice protests First of all
we wanna make sure That what has happened
in California Does not happen in Texas We're
coming after all these people Our community must
be kept safe For peaceful protests And against
thugs and criminals Looking to start trouble The

(03:20:25):
Trump administration is signaling It will not back
down The Pentagon is deploying Nearly 700 Marines
To Southern California To help the National Guard
Respond to immigration protests That turned into clashes
With authorities Over the last few days U
.S. Marines and National Guard Are on standby
Outside of Los Angeles Where demonstrators Have again
been protesting President Donald Trump's Immigration policies There

(03:20:47):
is a heavy amount Of police officers That
are scattered Not only in this area But
on the parks That are in the outskirts
Of this area Preparing for any number Of
demonstrations And protesters That make their way here
Hell yeah A movie about aliens Don't tell
Trump We'll send the Green Berets in too
But Write the blurb Write the blurb If

(03:21:12):
someone asks me For a blurb for their
book I don't care how crappy the book
is I'll give them a blurb Just write
the blurb Just write I need more Write
the blurb Ask me for a blurb for

(03:21:37):
their book Just
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