1777 - "Java Shack" - No Agenda Show

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This is a stunner.
Adam Curry, John C.
DeVora.
It's Sunday, June 29th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Get My Nation
Media assassination episode 1777.
This is no agenda.
Now with less than one-third adult content
and broadcasting live from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number
6 in the morning, everybody.

(00:21):
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we all
wonder whatever happened to Trini Lopez.
I'm John C.
DeVora.
It's a click-bombing buzzkill in the morning.
First of all, I'm almost positive you have
used that as an opening on the show
before.
I hope not.
I may have to look it up.

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Second of all, if I had a hammer,
I'd hammer in the morning.
Wasn't that Trini Lopez?
It was one of his songs, yeah.
It was, of course, I think it was
a Bob Seger song.
Not Bob Seger, but Bob Seger.
Bob Seger.
No, the other Seger.
Pete Seger.
The folklore communist.

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And it just came to mind because I
was watching the American Masters story about Bob
Dylan.
American Masters story?
Is that different from the movie currently out?
No, American Masters is a PBS thing.
It's on every week.
They had one on Little Richard and Bob

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Dylan.
Bob Dylan was quite the character.
Wait, wait, wait.
Boomer Talk on the 8th.
That's right, everybody.
Hey, it was on TV just the other
day.
Just the fact that you're watching TV is
now Boomer Talk.
I gotta tell you.
I'm trying not to be irritated by it

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because obviously I don't feel like I'm a
boomer, but because everyone knows it irritates me,
it only exacerbates the problem.
So they just think it's funny and they
just keep doing it over and over.
My kid, hey dad, boomer.
Like, uh.
I mean, you're used to it because, well,
golly, you actually are a boomer.
I'm a real boomer.

(02:11):
There it is.
I'm a real boomer.
Not a bogus cusp boomer.
Cusp boomer.
Boomer adjacent, as we say.
Well, you're technically a boomer.
Well, if you listen to, if you read
the, I'm sure you don't get any of
this because even your ex-handle is, you

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know, it's not just John C.
Dvorak.
It's the real Dvorak, whatever it is.
No one can remember it.
Your emails.
It's so difficult.
Yeah, Dvorak is tough for the non-boomers,
trust me.
You know, you don't get the email.
I mean, I'm literally getting emails.

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Oh, enjoy sucking Trump off.
I mean, that's literally the stuff I deal
with every single day.
Every single day.
It's unbelievable.
Well, this is new.
No, it's not new.
By the way, it's thanks to you.
Thanks to you saying, you know, you brought

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up the Jew hate on the last show
and then everyone blames me.
It's unbelievable.
Well, you know.
Yeah, you know what.
You know what.
AdamEdCurry.com is a lot easier to spell.
Well, of course.
This is my thesis.
And this is the kind of dimwits that
would write in that, you know, I don't

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know how to spell Curry's.
I think I can spell that because I
had it for dinner.
So listen to this.
Here, I'll just give you a couple of
examples.
We're starting to show off with the band.
I thought I was listening to the Mark
Levin show there for a minute.

(03:55):
With the ridiculous Dvorak's, they're all just Jew
haters line.
This entire show was like Fox Boomer slop.
Kind of like that one.
It was good.
Why would you straw man concerns of Zionism
with Jew hatred?
I'm not sure what that means, actually.
I don't either.

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They spent the first hour calling anyone who
doesn't want to send Israel their billions and
billions per year anti-Semites and clarifying that
Zionism is impossible.
And then cried the donations are slowing down
because the low IQ boomers that eat this
shit up are dying off.
Who ever said that he was dying off?

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Nor did we say I think that saying
Zionism is impossible.
I don't think we ever said that.
How's multipolar world order means that China is
suddenly going to run the world and the
US has to do things at the best
of China.
If the US can't compete without being a

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gangster then the US deserves it.
That's a good one.
Adam Curry Why are you acting like the
government of Israel isn't controlling us?
Can't there be people within our government slash
billionaires working for the benefit of Israel sometimes
their interests overlap with the military industrial complex?

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Seriously.
They lost me big time on this one.
I haven't listened a ton but I always
thought they were coming from a more conspiracy
minded think outside the box angle.
Seems like they took a sharp turn towards
Boomer Con Inc.
What?
I know.
Boomer Con?
Boomer Con Inc.
I don't know.

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I don't know.
Like Neocon Boomer Con I guess.
Boomer Con, Neocon or maybe like Comic Con.
Yeah in a way Boomer Con Comic Con.
Yeah sure.
So we're having a big meet up.
Can you imagine the Boomer Con meet up?
Oh my goodness.
That'd be great.
Where's the door?

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And here's my favorite.
Ridiculous!
You guys are taking money from Israel it's
obvious.
Your analysis is too absurd.
Where is this money?
Your analysis is too absurd and biased to
be believed as sincere.
Just admit it and interview your daddy BB.

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Wow.
Somebody actually wrote that.
You're starting to write your own.
No I'm not making that up.
You're sleep writing.
You can go right on my ex account
and see it.
It's all public.
So the thing that baffles me though.
The thing that baffles me is that maybe

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people have been listening for a long time.
But we have always just given our opinion
no matter how harsh the blowback.
No matter how harsh.
And we've taken the blowback time and time
again.
And then years later people go you were
kind of right about that.

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Mostly.
Was there anything that we really took a
stand on that we were so incredibly wrong
on?
Never.
Is this the one?
Finally this is the one.
No.
It's the aircraft carrier that's all there is
to it.
It's just that simple.
What did it take a genius to figure
it out?
Well this is a very polarizing moment in

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America.
And I think I was reflecting on this.
Because you and I are indeed baffled.
We're baffled by the it's so obvious, history
shows exactly what we have done to the
state of Israel.
This was cooked up in 1974.

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I know it's a long time ago.
And admittedly even as a young boomer adjacent
I wasn't quite politically aware at the time.
But the history books do show that the
US uses Israel for many things.
And many many bad things.
But also Yeah well you have to do,

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sometimes you have to crack an egg to
make an omelet.
So there's no doubt about that.
But what has crept into the narrative and
this started several years ago with it's not
new, but it started several years ago with
No Agenda Social.
If you recall.

(08:34):
The whole reason that I said hey we
got to disassociate from this.
Well it even began before that with No
Agenda Forums.
Yeah but that wasn't about Israel.
No Agenda Forums.
Yeah you're right.
No Agenda Social became a bunch of yeah.
It was the most blocked instance on the
Fediverse because people were just going insane with

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their, literally Jew hate memes.
That's what it was.
But it always goes from Israel to oh
there's another meme with a crook nose.
Okay very funny.
But the more I look at this, the
more I think about it, the more I
see what's happening.
Which is really, it's really interesting how you
have I'd say non-political people on the

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right.
Which is, I think that's pretty much, if
you look at the old No Agenda, the
no authority crowd, they're not really political.
They just think that Israel's running the show
and of course they are blackmailing everybody in
Congress and they run our policy and we're
all doing everything at the behest of Israel.

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Yeah we have to stop right there and
assume that the reason for this thought is
an op.
Thank you and I actually, now I've been
thinking, it's been on my heart, it really
has been.
It's like hey I'm a sensitive guy, these
things affect me.
They couldn't imprison President Trump, they couldn't kill

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him.
I think this is the new attack vector
to literally rip apart support for President Trump.
And this issue of Israel is dividing people
who are not left but they're actually bringing
them over to the you know, the protesters

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at Columbia's side.
It's really, really interesting.
So how do these two opposite sides of
the spectrum unite?
Now personally, I'm sensitive to this issue because
I grew up in the Netherlands.
I played with kids and their grandmother would
be there, she had numbers tattooed on her
arm.

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And so I got a very different education
in how Jew hate and how that got
out of control.
And when you think about it, when you
think about Kanye West and Nick Fuentes and
all these people who are blaming every problem
in America, every problem with our policy is
Israel.
It wouldn't take much for a different president

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or leader could even be a Republican to
say, you know, Israel really is the problem.
And it wouldn't take much to get people
riled up because we are in accelerated idiocracy.
That's my new version of AI.
It's obvious that we are becoming stupid.
But I'm pretty sure the people who do
real psyops is the military industrial complex.

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It's all about them.
It always has been.
When did Eisenhower do his speech?
Was that before I was born?
Was that 1965?
What year were you born?
I forgot.
Almost 1965.
Oh, no.
He was still in office.
He left office in 60.
Right.
One of his last speeches was around 59,

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I believe.
Right.
So before I was born, just listen to
this.
It's worth replaying this bit because there's some
things in here that you need to pay
attention to.
This is history.
American makers of plowshares could, with time and
as required, make swords as well.
But we can no longer risk emergency improvisation

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of national defense.
We have been compelled to create a permanent
armaments industry of vast proportions.
Added to this, three and a half million
men and women are directly engaged in the
defense establishment.
Three and a half million back before 1960.

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Just imagine how many people now work directly
or indirectly in the military industrial complex.
It must be at least tenfold.
We annually spend on military security alone more
than the net income of all United States
corporations.
Now this conjunction of an immense military establishment

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and a large arms industry is new in
the American experience.
It's new!
The total influence economic, political, even spiritual, is
felt in every city, every state house, every
office of the federal government.
We recognize the imperative need for this development.

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Yet we must not fail to comprehend its
grave implications.
Our toil, resources, and livelihood are all involved.
So is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard
against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought

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or unsought, by the military industrial complex.
Note he's not saying Israel.
The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced
power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this
combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.
We should take nothing for granted.

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Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel
the proper meshing of the huge industrial and
military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods
and goals, so that security and liberty may
prosper together.
So really, and I got to talk about
the military industrial complex for a second here,

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and how I believe that it may even
be the DIA, and it's very easy to
sigh up on, and they do this all
the time.
They're proud of it.
They're proud of what they do on social
media.
They're proud of the people they get on
big podcast microphones.
They love it.
And they do this all the time.
And if anything, they hide behind Israel with

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AIPAC because the money comes from the military
industrial complex.
A reminder, here's Massey, no friend of the
Israel lobby, no friend even of President Trump,
spelling it out very clearly where the money
comes from.
And the money that goes to Israel does
not go into Israel's coffers.
There's no big giant Great Britain lobby.

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There's no Australian lobby.
There's no German lobby.
Oh, the other countries don't have them.
No, no, not like this.
This is singular.
This is unique.
I mean, if you're an ally, why wouldn't
we work with you?
Why do you have to convince us that
you're our ally?
Why do you have to basically go into
every congressional office and convince them?

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And it's because they want to keep the
money flowing.
And they've got a good return on their
investment.
I mean, we send more foreign aid to
Israel than to any other country.
Like 10 million people or something.
Yeah, I think Tennessee.
I don't know this population in Tennessee, but
it's probably about, you know, on that order.

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Yeah, I think this year they said we
spent like 12 billion dollars, but that's not
actual dollars.
It's in military aid, right?
Yeah, it's, well, it's dollars that comes out
of the treasury.
Yeah, but it's not like we give them,
it's a gift certificate that's redeemable at Lockheed
Martin and your local Raytheon, you know.
Okay, got it.
That's the point.

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And the military has always shaped our culture
in Hollywood.
They have the biggest budgets for the movies
you see.
Top Gun.
Rocky.
Remember the shake with wrestling?
Come on.
It's not, it's not the Jews making up
this idea.
This, the military industrial complex has made.
The iron shake.

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Thank you, the iron shake.
I have his autograph on a photo.
I sit right by this desk.
I'm sure you do.
So, what have we heard recently?
Oh, the grid's going down.
Chinese military-age men.
Russia's going to take over all of Europe.
China is buying up all the land.
None of it, none of it comes to
fruition.
My own military industrial complex handlers tried this

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on me since this Iran thing rose.
Israel.
Because I know it.
I know who they are.
I know what they're sending me.
And I just ignore it and they stop
eventually because like, nah, Curry, he's no good.
I bet you every single podcast.
He's no good.
This guy's no good.
But we're also...
Send a new handler at him.

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We're irrelevant.
We're just two boomers.
Two boomers yapping on a podcast.
We have about a million people and they're
all, what would you call them, fringe?
Yeah.
They think for themselves anyway, so with or
without us they'd probably have their own opinions.
However, if you and I weren't who we
were, who we are right now, first of

(17:35):
all, you'd have a vinegar book and I
would probably have Ryan Seacrest career, but that's
not who we are.
I don't know why, but we're just like,
no, I'm not interested in going along to
get along.
I've never done any of that.
And I think that many people, podcasters, ironically,

(17:56):
podcasters, they have audience capture and they see
these...
They get these messages.
Oh, crap.
Well, let me look into this.
Well, yeah, what are we sending to Israel?
And they don't have the age and the
knowledge of history or maybe even have cracked
a book from time to time or gone
back and looked at something.

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Where did this really come from?
And this op, I think, is meant to
undermine Trump and Trump is making a big
mistake.
He should be honest with the American people
and tell everybody really what's going on because
now we have...
Gone.
Gone is the talk of immigration, inflation, even

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Russia, Ukraine is on the back burner, tariffs.
None of this is important.
And I think this op is broad.
It's been thought about.
Someone smart is doing this.
Fox News, it all clicked into place for
me all of a sudden.
Of course, Fox is run by the Democrats.

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Democrats run Fox News.
So what do they do?
They put that moron Levin on primetime, hype
him up.
He's got all the promos and all he's
talking about is, well, Israel, Israel, that pisses
everybody off.
It's a divisionary tactic.
The same for the five.
I don't watch Greg Gutfeld.

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I'm sure he just does dumb jokes at
night.
And when did this really start?
This started with Elon.
And I think Elon is just weak.
Whatever they did, Elon, look at this.
See what we're doing.
We're getting everyone to burn your cars.
How much more can you stand, Elon?
You better denounce Trump.
One of the Doge guys, he's now moving

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over to Colorado, came to visit me before
they left.
And I said, well, this is about China.
And he said, no, no, AIPAC, AIPAC, it's
Israel.
They run the whole government.
They got the goods in everybody, which to
me means that's what Doge was thinking.
That's what Elon was thinking.

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So all of this is working very, very
well because you've got Marjorie Taylor Green going
on Tucker saying, oh, I'm sick and tired
of Israel.
And Trump is, you know, what happened to
him?
And it's all over.
It is, it is, he, President Trump needs
to come out and just say it.
This was about China.

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And thank you to the Israelis.
Not Israel, not Bibi Netanyahu.
Thank you to the Mossad.
You should say it.
Thank you to the Mossad because they helped
us send the message loud and clear.
And luckily I can find some compatriots in
this.
Mike Baker has a podcast and he had
Steven Yates on.
I have a Mike Baker podcast clip today.

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Oh, wow.
Okay.
Well, I'll play mine.
Well, mine is about, is a look when
you're done with this little thing you're doing.
Yes.
Your little thing.
My little thing I'm doing here.
I'm going to talk about the spooks on
the podcast and the deconstruction of that phony

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baloney DIA memo.
Oh, excellent.
Which to me was also complete DIA propaganda.
Hey, we need to have more bombs.
You got to have more stuff.
Got to be worried.
Oh, sleeper cells, sleeper cells everywhere.
Bull, bull crap.
And by the way, Iranians really warm up
to American culture.

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Very much so.
Anybody say, I'm reminded of an old Saturday
Night Bit where these sleeper cells, this is
from years ago, during, I forgot what period
of terrorism it was.
But the Saturday Night Bit was these sleeper
cells were sitting, they were in Armonk, New
York, or someplace.

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Armonk.
It is in a suburb and they got
a call.
Okay, it's time to take action.
So I got my wife and kids, I
got to go to a Little League game
this afternoon.
What are you doing here with me?
Oh, dude, remember when, was it just before
Christmas?
They were worried about a dirty bomb exploding
and the guy was filming me for some

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Bitcoin documentary and he was calling up his
kids and like, oh, I got to get
him out of New York.
I got to get him into the center
of the country because of the dirty bomb.
I don't remember what hoax that was.
And by the way, when you go after
the Jews and Israel slash the Jews, you
automatically go after the Christians.

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You see, because that's exactly what happened between
Tucker and Ted Cruz, who was ill-prepared.
No kidding.
And the American church is weak.
It's weak.
They won't stand up and say, no, that's
bull crap.
It's weak.
I would agree with that.
Yes, it's very weak.

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There's people trying to...
In fact, this recent Supreme Court justice showed
how weak the American church is.
It was a Muslim that pulled the plug
on all the porn in grammar school.
I know.
It was the Muslims that had the nerve
to do it.
The Christians didn't do anything about it.
They're very confused and they've been beaten down

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by, you know, stuff like the separation clause,
non-existent separation clause.
So there's all kinds...
We have a spiritual problem in America.
There's not a political problem.
So now I want to play, thank God,
we have Mike Baker and Stephen Yates to
talk some sense into everybody about what really
took place, which was China got a wake

(23:43):
-up call from President Trump.
In the immediate aftermath, we've heard very little
from China.
What do you make of the Chinese reaction
and mindset towards what's happened regarding Iran?
Well, my first assumption is that they, like
most of the world, including a lot of
Americans, did not realize this was actually going

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to happen.
And I think that they were probably thrown
a bit when they saw the B-2s
going to Guam.
That is getting close to the area they
like to operate in.
And then all of a sudden, before they
really get any other news, some things go
boom, boom in Iran from another area.
So a little bit of a head fake

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probably made them spin a bit.
But they also were a little high on
their own supply in giving Pakistan some weapons,
and they thought that the recent skirmish between
India and Pakistan saw Pakistan maybe besting some
technology the Indians had.
And all of a sudden, the world sees
that American stealth technology actually works, that we

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can actually have an operation without leaks.
And I think that probably put a pin
in one of the balloons of China's on
the rise, inevitably, the next boss on the
block, America's on the decline, and you better
make a deal with the new boss.
So I bet they had a big, deep
breath to contemplate what just happened.

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And I mentioned, I think, four or five
shows ago, be on the lookout for the
term multi-polar world, because that's what this
is about.
And I will, I remain as an American,
I'm glad because I don't want the Chinese
running the show.
Call me a douchebag, call me an imperialist,
whatever.
Best price is not my culture.
So what is the relationship between Iran and

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China?
Talk to me if you could about the
extent, the nature of the relationship between Iran
and China, and then also in context with
China's response in the aftermath of the attacks.
Are you surprised at their reaction, which, I
mean, to me or to anybody who's not
an expert on China, we look at it

(25:51):
and go, that's pretty hands-off from their
perspective.
Well, yeah, because they have been giving a
political narrative out to the world that together
with Moscow and Tehran and maybe Pyongyang and
a few others, they were trying to create
this alternative universe that was going to be
multi-polar and balance against the bad Americans
and they were going to have their own

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currency be a reserve currency, all this pie
-in-the-sky stuff about what they were
going to do in the world.
And so if you believe that narrative, and
there's some truth to their trying to at
least stoke those ideas, then this does look
like conspicuous pulling back from someone who's supposed
to be an ally getting walloped and you're

(26:34):
like, whoa, you're on your own, I don't
really know who you are.
But Iran's response by threatening to shut off
the Straits of Hormuz, that was definite no
-go zone for China because they are still
very dependent on a lot of energy from
the Gulf, not just buying a lot of
Iranian oil, which they have done, but from

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other sources too.
And so my guess is they were conveying
that privately to Tehran and I think that
they did have a national interest in there
not being a wider conflict because it would
have a material impact on their economic forecast.
They can't be the manufacturing supply platform for
the world without that dose of natural gas

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and oil from the Gulf.
And so when President Trump comes out and
says, hey, thanks to the IDF and the
Mossad and Bibi and whatever, yeah, he's right.
It's always seemed that the Chinese regime has
been giddy anytime the U.S. gets mired
in some sort of overseas conflict.

(27:38):
Again, if you go with the theory that
the regime, the Chinese regime, always acts in
its own best interests, they looked at it
and said, well, it's not in our best
interests if this thing escalates.
Well, and I think they'll still play some
politics, but basically they are a chaser, not
a maker in this.
So they see a situation...

(28:00):
What do you mean by that?
So they're not driving events, they're chasing events.
And so when this breaks out, number one,
Israel proves capable to do nearly miraculous things
to the Iranians.
That has to freak the Chinese out because
Israel is not a major power.
Israel's not one of these poles in this

(28:22):
balancing act that they thought they were going
to try to come out on top with
this multipolar world.
And, you know, of course, Israel has advanced
technology, they have been fighting, they know how
to fight.
They also know how to do real intelligence,
I think stunningly effective intelligence in the way
these things played out.

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And all of that, I think, has to
freak China out because if you look at
what the Ukrainians were able to do with
drones deep into Russia, and then you look
at what the Israelis were able to do
deep into Iran, not just with drones, but
human intelligence, placing people in vital positions.
They had basically Tehran's complete playbook, and they

(29:05):
were striking with unbelievable precision where there's just
a burnt black hole in one flat, in
one building, killing one top military advisor.
That's the kind of stuff that creeps the
Chinese out that someone could do to them
at some point.
Exactly.
And I wish President Trump would just do

(29:25):
a Ross Perot, come out, draw with your
sharpie, say, look, people, here's what the world
is like right now.
Here are the options.
This is what we're doing.
Instead, and yes, you either have the military
force, or you don't.
And all that...
Your reference to Ross Perot is lost on

(29:46):
half the audience, but you're absolutely correct about
how you should explain it.
Explain what Ross Perot used to do.
I'm still amazed that no one else has
ever done this.
Yeah, he used to buy half an hour
of airtime on the networks when he was
running as an independent, and he'd come out,

(30:07):
and he'd say, all right, people, here's the
money, here's what we got, here's what we
owe, and he'd do it like a budget
at home.
But he'd also have these little drawings, and
he'd draw these little very good drawings that
were obviously, you know, somebody else did, and
he just reproduced them.
He could have become President of the United

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States as a President, except until somebody showed
him a picture.
Yeah, well, they threatened his family, I think,
is what they did.
When they kill your family, you don't get
out of the way, because he was really
disrupting that election.
It was.
I think, and by the way, I don't

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think President Trump is capable of doing something
like that.
He can't talk, which is a problem, and
I don't know where J.D. Vance is,
but J.D. Vance used to be the
Trump whisperer and could explain it and translate,
at least during the campaign.
What you get is you get conversations with
Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker that go like

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this.
Since I've become a member of Congress since
2021, we have voted on 22 resolutions for
Israel, 22 of them.
All kinds of resolutions, denouncing anti-Semitism, supporting
Israel.
We voted on 22 of those.
We never vote on resolutions proclaiming great things

(31:34):
about America.
By the way, a resolution is meaningless.
We do resolutions about a hundred things that
are stupid.
It's a resolution.
Yeah, we all agree on this.
Yeah, we agree.
Okay, we agree on it.
It's just military-industrial complex nonsense and cover
-up.
When will people see this?

(31:54):
Never.
I have hopes for America.
Americans in general.
We have voted on 22 resolutions in the
House defending Israel.
How many of you voted yes on?
I don't know my exact record.
The last one, I voted no on.

(32:15):
The one before that, I voted present because
I just started getting sick of it.
That's kind of it.
I've always noticed this, certainly in the last...
I don't know how many years.
It's been a while where Republicans in the
Congress are always talking about Israel.
I'm not against Israel.
I've always liked Israel.
I haven't really noticed it.
Okay, fine.
Love Israel.

(32:35):
Love any country.
Whatever.
It feels like something has changed.
Clearly, it has for you.
What is that thing?
Here's the situation.
It's coming to a point where it's so
obvious all the time in everyone's language, the
social media posts they put out, the statements
that they make.

(32:55):
They have to proclaim Israel.
They have to proclaim their faith and loyalty
in Israel.
Israel is our greatest ally.
It's a statement that has to be made
over and over and over again to the
point it's becoming like, wait a minute.
What about our own country?
What about our own people?
That is the talking point.
She is doing exactly what they want her

(33:17):
to do.
It's spot on.
Well, who's they?
The military, the defense base.
The defense industrial base.
What are they getting out of that?
I agree with you, by the way.
I think this whole thing is like a
giant, very well-structured op.
I think there was an element of keeping

(33:38):
the Jews in their place.
Of course.
They're abusing the Jews themselves.
You guys just shut up for a minute.
You're a bunch of intellectual bookish types.
Shut up, y'all.
Shut up.
They were using you.
You shut up.
We're going to do this and that.
You're going to hate on Israel for a
while because it draws attention.

(33:59):
For my taste, it's a little too complicated.
I think you might feel the same way
by asking Trump to explain it when he's
never going to explain it.
It's not his thing.
The thing is, when she says, well, hold
on.
What about us?
Again, immigration.
The president won the election on immigration.
Inflation.
Down.

(34:20):
What do eggs cost?
Tariffs.
He is doing everything he said for America,
including scurrying off the Chinese out of the
Middle East.
And Africa.
And Africa.
The Africa thing is the most interesting part
of this.
I have that clip here.

(34:44):
Sorry?
I was going to say, by the way,
we don't have any clips on this, but
all hell is breaking loose in Kenya.
The Gen Z kids in Kenya, of all
places, Kenya, it just is out of control.
Pride stuff?
Is it pride stuff?
No, no, it's not pride stuff.
It's about taxes.

(35:04):
Gen Z.
It's wild.
So this is Manga, Africa News.
But they actually, exactly, and we talked about
this before anyone was talking about this truce.
The agreement signed Friday between Congo and Rwanda
has been touted by many as a major
step towards ending years of war in Congo's
east, but this analyst says mineral wealth is

(35:27):
just one of the many drivers of conflict
in the region and not the only one.
I find also western parties like the U
.S. have owned mines before in the eastern
DRC.
Of course, during the Obama administration they sold
some of these mines to China.
What?
What?
What?
Obama sold some of those mines to China?

(35:49):
In the eastern DRC, of course, during the
Obama administration they sold some of these mines
to China, which owns a lot of mines
in the eastern DRC.
And parties to the conflict to this day
are still very focused on their interest in
these mineral resources.
While the agreement principally concerns the states of

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Congo and Rwanda, there are dozens of armed
groups and proxy forces in the picture, which
could complicate any chances of a lasting peaceful
solution.
There's a disconnect between the high-level peace
building, the ones we see on TV, the
Qatar process, the EU-led Rwanda-Angola process.

(36:32):
These peace processes have not led to any
tangible agreement for over 30 years that this
conflict has gone on and we are seeing
that there's a gap that these two high
-level peace building and the grassroots peace building
are not connecting.
One of those groups is Rwanda-backed M23,
with which Congo is holding separate talks, mediated

(36:54):
by Qatar.
So, it's not over.
I mean, yeah, we've got the high-level
peace and we're going to send military down
there to keep the peace.
You know, the thing that we do that
the Chinese don't do down there, the Chinese
have used all kinds of techniques, mostly in
the form of bribery, by, we're going to
build roads, we're going to build a dam,
we're going to do this, we're going to
do that.
They put a bunch of Chinese laborers in

(37:15):
there, of course, and so they can actually
get the job done.
But we've been in Africa, AFRICOM, and bombing,
more bombing going on down there over the
years, the last few decades we've been bombing
and we've got people there, it's just never
reported, nobody discusses it.

(37:36):
Well, back to my original premise.
Donald Trump don't trust China!
China is asshole!
That is what is going on here.
And I'm just sad, I really am, that
our own people, that they cannot get past
the Israel thing, and they just, they are
so convinced, because the op has been going

(37:57):
on for years, it is, maybe he never
even stopped after World War II as far
as I'm concerned.
But it has always been about military.
Yeah, there's a lot of people who love
killing people, a lot of people in our
elite circles, a lot, there's definitely people in
Congress who like killing people, they're sick.

(38:18):
But I truly think President Trump knows what
he's doing in this particular case.
He also listens poorly, you know, I would
feel a lot better if he said, you
know, that vaccine sucked!
You know?
But instead his ego gets in the way
and he goes Operation Warp Speed, I saved
millions of lives, bleh.

(38:39):
He hasn't brought Warp Speed up for a
long time.
Well, yeah.
But he, mea culpa, from time to time
he knows what happens when you start talking
about vaccines.
Kennedy's his front man for this, Kennedy's doing
what he can and every time he turns
around he's slammed by people in Congress and
everybody else for gonna kill us all if

(39:02):
we don't have more vaccines.
Yeah, I got some stuff on that later.
But also the Panama Canal, you know, it's
like that was for our benefit.
Everyone gets their nose out of joint, pun
intended.
You know, what's he doing now?
He's doing it for America.
And I think indirectly for the world, you

(39:24):
know what?
The EU, they're gonna jump right into bed
with bricks.
They are weak.
Queen Ursula is already talking about a new
WTO, you know, we gotta avoid the mistakes
of the past, blah, blah, blah, blah.
They're going to be completely owned and run
by Chinese culture.
Culture of surveillance.

(39:45):
You know, I think we're still kind of
fighting it here, kind of.
Maybe lost.
Well, I don't take such a dim view
of that.
Of the EU?
The latest BRICS conference, Putin and Xi, neither
one of them showed up.
Well, of course not.
Left the rest of them hanging.
When was the conference?
It was just like a couple days ago.
Yeah, gee, is that a coincidence?

(40:06):
Well, it's not coincidence at all, but the
point is that we put a little pressure
on the situation by being ourselves, and the
next thing you know, these guys are bailing
out of their own operation.
Right.
So I don't see the Europeans are, yeah,
I agree they're weak, but they're not going
with this crap.
I hope not.

(40:27):
But they're pretty far down the road as
far as I'm concerned.
Well, they are with the surveillance state.
That's gotta stop.
It's too far.
I mean, the Brits are completely out of
control.
Yeah, so and it's all funny and we
can all do memes, but people in the
UK are they're beside themselves.

(40:50):
What has happened?
What has happened to our country?
Well, Ireland's another example.
And it all just kind of gets swept
under the rug, and so this president has
done amazing things.
Please, try and not get so hung up
on this Israel meme.
Yeah, Israel sucks.

(41:12):
What they're doing in Palestine to the Palestinians.
There's no country Palestine.
I even fall for it myself.
But why won't any other country in the
Middle East take the Palestinians?
So it's, use your use your noggin from
time to time.
You can yell at me all you want.

(41:34):
And I advise it.
And by the way, I'd say to the
American church, you've got to get out there.
You've got to calm people down.
You've got to bring people to Jesus.
Otherwise, we're lost.
Nothing else can save us.
All right, go into your DIA stuff.
I think you're taking a dim view.

(41:58):
So the DIA leak was interesting because it
brought me to these guys that do, that
are ex-spooks, including Mike Baker, who are
doing these analysis, they're doing these analysis podcasts,
which I think are, generally speaking, not as
good as they could be.
But I did discover the Right report.

(42:18):
And I think this guy, who's very happy
with his voice, he really thinks he should
be a broadcaster.
Oh, does he puke a lot?
Well, that's pretty close to it.
And Baker and him kind of have competing
podcasts.
And Baker actually has the President's Daily Briefing.
The other guy started his podcast and called
it the President's Daily Briefing and quickly changed

(42:41):
it to the Right report because of these
things do happen.
No way, but the clip I got from
him was from the Presidential Daily Briefing.
Yes, because Baker has that.
It's the other guy who had the President's
Daily Briefing after Baker already established it.
But he didn't know about Baker's or something.
I don't know how that happened.

(43:01):
Podcast wars!
Podcast wars!
Yeah, little podcast wars going on.
So he changed it from the President's Daily
Briefing to the Right report.
But they both discussed, and I thought it
was interesting because I think Right is a
little spookier than Baker.
Baker's more of a...
I mean, Baker's he comes on Gutfeld quite

(43:23):
a bit and he plays the CIA spook
on the show.
And they defer to him a lot for
that.
He doesn't really bring much spy craft to
the show.
And he doesn't do it even to his
own show.
He does some good interviews like the one
you played.
But he doesn't give us any inside or
any feelings.
You don't get the impression that he's currently

(43:45):
really that...
He's not ready.
Yeah, you get this sense that he's just
doing the news.
And so his Daily Briefing is not I
don't think is that valuable of a piece
of podcasting.
But let's listen to what Mike Baker talks
about when he talks about it.
I've got a little clip here on it.
His...
He went on for 15 minutes about the

(44:07):
DIA leak, but it was mostly, and this
we're talking about the leaked memo, which they're
trying to track down who leaked it.
I think it's a congressman.
They...
And Jesse Waters says he thinks he knows
who it is exactly.
Someone in the Intelligence Committee.

(44:27):
And Baker goes on forever about it.
And he never...
This is pretty much what he says over
and over again.
This is his take on it.
This is DIA leak by Mike Baker?
Yes.
Okay.
The assessment was labeled quote low confidence.
And in intelligence speak, that's an important descriptor.

(44:48):
A low confidence assessment means analysts don't have
enough verified high quality information to reach a
solid conclusion.
He's trying to do Casey Kasem?
He sounds almost like AI.
Yes, he does sound like AI, but this
is his...
That's his read.
He...

(45:09):
I can't explain what he's trying to do,
but he's trying to sound like a professional.
But now we have a long distance dedication.
The problem I have with the modern some
of these guys, they're using techniques, radio announcer
techniques from the 50s.
Yes.
And they're trying to sound like an old
radio announcer.

(45:30):
And it just doesn't work anymore.
The natural voice is like the ones I
employ where I stutter and stammer and I
can't pronounce things correctly and I can't type
right.
It's an amateur hour sound that really has
the current modern appeal.
And now we go to Mike Baker talking
about the DIA leak on the right report.

(45:53):
No, he's not on the right report.
Whatever.
Analysts don't have enough verified high quality information
to reach a solid conclusion.
It's essentially educated guesswork.
The evidence may be thin, contradictory or based
on sources that aren't fully vetted.
It doesn't mean that the report is necessarily

(46:13):
wrong, but it does mean that it's speculative.
Analysts are essentially saying, look, this is one
possible interpretation but we're not betting all the
marbles on it.
So when a report like that gets leaked
while still being categorized as low confidence, well,
it's a major red flag.
It's not supposed to be treated as fact.
It's supposed to be kept in-house while

(46:35):
the full picture develops.
Second point, the timing and framing of this
leak raises serious questions about motive.
This wasn't a full review.
It was a preliminary snapshot, likely updated daily
as new intelligence comes in.
Yet someone chose to leak it just days
after the strikes, and they did so in
a way that cast doubt on the mission's

(46:55):
success.
That suggests someone wanted to get ahead of
the official narrative, maybe to discredit the administration,
maybe to apply political pressure, or maybe, for
whatever reason, to create confusion.
And for whatever that reason may be, selectively
leaking a speculative early stage report is a
classic move in the world of information warfare.

(47:16):
The ultimate truth on this matter is that
we won't know the full extent of the
damage or the status of Iran's nuclear program
for weeks, maybe even months, until inspectors can
get back on the ground.
And frankly, that's always provided a limited view
anyway.
And until more intelligence is gathered from credible
human sources with access, well, everything else is
just guesswork.

(47:37):
So here's what bugs me about this.
Besides the fact that he's reading it?
Yeah.
It doesn't matter.
The mission was send a message to China.
Don't go there.
This is not what we're talking about.
I understand.
Yeah, but you can...
No, you can bring that up after I
bring up the other stuff.
And the second thing, I think it was

(47:58):
a big mistake to have Hegseth, who's lost
his marbles...
Hegseth is really...
This is the most disappointing guy because he's
a professional broadcaster.
Why don't you bring out some dude with
a lot of fruit salad, you know, he's
like, well, you know, we are a...

(48:20):
When Cain came out...
Yeah, but they pushed him aside.
Hegseth mugged the stage.
Hegseth is the problem.
He's the lightning rod.
No, they should have brought Carrillo out.
Anybody but Hegseth.
It was a mistake.
That's a nice aside.
But let's go back to the point here.
Alright.

(48:41):
We got these two spooks doing podcasts.
Hey, what about us?
Aren't we two spooks doing a podcast?
We're not spooks.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
We're just independents.
It's not a problem, believe me.
So we have...
Wright has...

(49:02):
He's better.
And I think he's read in and I
think he's actually still on the payroll because
in the second clip, I got two clips
from him discussing this DIA thing.
On the second clip, you tell me he's
not working for somebody when he comes up
with what he says.
But let's listen to his intro.
Now, you're going to...
If you didn't like Mike Baker's presentation, you're

(49:24):
going to hate this guy because he's over
the top with his phony baloney announcer voice
and his ridiculous modulation over the...
You know, just crazy modulation.
But his analysis of the DIA leak is
far superior.
Axios News and the Washington Free Beacon report

(49:45):
that the intel assessment from the Defense Intelligence
Agency that, of course, suggested that the strikes
on Iran fell short.
Well, that assessment was actually based on bad
intel and bad judgment.
Here's what we know.
Apparently, DIA analysts...
Here's what we know.
Let's go to the video tape.
...used some early satellite images for part of
their assessment, but mostly something called signals intelligence

(50:07):
or SIGINT.
In this case, they used captured phone calls
from Iranian nuclear and military personnel who were
calling back into headquarters elements to provide situation
reports or SITREPS.
Well, that was a problem for a couple
reasons.
First, these Iranians knew or suspected that their
phones were being tapped, so they were feeding
false information into their phone calls, hoping that

(50:30):
the West would pick it up and think
it was real.
And allegedly, that is what happened.
Second, other personnel in Iran were relaying good
news only back to their regime headquarters because
they didn't want to be candid about how
bad things were really out there in the
field back to their senior leaders.
And that is the other stream of intel
used by the DIA analysts, just inaccurate.

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So when the subsequent DIA report was leaked,
Israeli officials were working on their own assessment
and they saw it and they were totally
befuddled.
Their sources on the ground in Iran knew
that Operation Midnight Hammer was a great success.
Plus, the folks at Mossad knew that some
Iranian military personnel were trying to feed disinformation
using their phones.

(51:12):
In fact, they had been for some time.
So Mossad was very careful about not consuming
the bad intel or mixing it in with
the good.
Oh brother, spy versus spy story here.
Yeah, but this makes me think this guy's
a little more in tune than Baker, who
I think is just a newsreader.
So now to convince you, or at least

(51:34):
to convince me that this guy is definitely
CIA is what he comes up with his
solution to the problem of correcting this disastrous
report in part two.
Unfortunately, the analysts at the Defense Intel Agency

(51:54):
were not so careful nor professional.
They wrote it up all as true, slapped
on a low confidence assessment, and off it
went, uncoordinated with other U.S. intel partners
who might have been a little bit more
professional, and that's when it leaked.
While the Israelis continue to believe that last
weekend's strikes have profoundly degraded Iran's nuclear program,
they're still collecting intel and have yet to

(52:17):
create their own battle damage assessment, like the
DIA's that was leaked, and that is because
as one Israeli official explained to Axios News,
quote, a professional battle damage assessment takes time,
end quote.
Well, that is true and that is apparently
something lost on the Iran analysts at the
DIA.
Pivoting to quick analysis and opinion, here is

(52:37):
what I would advise President Trump to do.
First, the head of the DIA, he's got
to go, he's got to be fired.
It's a Lieutenant General Jeffrey Cruz.
He might be a wonderful man, but look,
the buck stops with him.
Second, the heads of the analytical components involved
in this report should be fired effective immediately.
Third, every single person who wrote, edited, or

(52:58):
coordinated on this DIA product has got to
be placed on unpaid leave effective immediately.
The point all in is that we have
got to freeze the DIA's Iran shop, at
least so that they don't do further damage
to the intel community or, more importantly, our
national security.
So all that is true, but I got
to tell you there's something else.
Based on my time in the intel community,

(53:18):
there is something very rotten going on inside
of the DIA.
This trash report did not get drafted, edited,
and released by otherwise good people who were
just trying to do the good thing.
No.
This report violated basic analytical tradecraft.
It's the stuff that you would learn on
day one as an analyst.
They did the opposite.

(53:39):
They just threw that stuff out.
So that means that this report was not
just some accident.
It was so bad, it was willful.
Hmm.
Yeah.
I liked it.
Yeah, we got too many intelligence agencies.
Are you kidding?
No.
Too much of that nonsense.

(54:00):
17 agencies are all fighting with each other
and they all want the money, all the
money.
Yeah.
Yeah, you saw that in that thing.
You fire that guy.
I looked that guy up and he looks
like a bonehead.
He's a Biden appointee.
Of course.
In fact, he's one of the few people
I've seen where you look him up in
the wiki page and it actually says under
the picture of him, you know they have
the little rundown.

(54:20):
Yeah.
It says under the picture of him, I've
never seen this on anybody, any generals or
anything else, it says under the picture it
says affiliation?
Yeah.
Joe Biden.
What is that supposed to mean?
It's a Wikipedia thing, man.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Well, it's all a mess.

(54:41):
And I hate to say it, I always
thought DIA was better.
But they suck just as bad.
This is so much...
They are responsible for so much bullcrap.
I think we both thought DIA was better,
but it's obvious they're not.
No.
No.
And I think Navy intelligence still stays away

(55:02):
from them.
Yeah, well that's Bannon though.
There's your Navy intelligence.
Yeah, well there's that.
But there's also the Woodward Navy intelligence.
Yeah.
By the way, I got a note from
Sir Jake.
He says that the word is that Trump
has forbid Hegseth from drinking while he's Secretary

(55:24):
of Defense.
And that means that everybody's grumpy because there's
no booze at all at any of the
events.
Oh, that's interesting.
That could be why he's on edge.
He's probably a guy who likes to take
the edge off with a couple of belts
at night.
A little bourbon there.
I can see him with a bourbon on
the rocks would be what it would be

(55:45):
on a tumbler.
In the tumbler.
Now he can't drink because he'll follow orders.
He won't drink.
And now he's grumpy.
So that's what that counts on.
Going after poor Jennifer.
My favorite analyst on Fox, Jennifer.
Now we have to always take into account
that from the Iranians slash Persians who we

(56:10):
know, the boots on the ground we get,
that there is always a lot of conviction
in Iran that Iran and America work together
and create nice theater for different reasons under
different presidents.
And Iran is not like one big Muslim
country.
They're an amalgam of all kinds of people.

(56:34):
There's a number of ethnic groups within the
country.
For sure.
Here's Hegseth.
Doubling down as now the Khamenei has come
out and said, you know, something.
How destructive were the U.S. airstrikes on
Iran?
Did they completely destroy the facilities and obliterate
Iran's nuclear capabilities as the Trump administration continues

(56:56):
to claim, or did they only set it
back a few months as a leaked report
from the intelligence arm of the Pentagon asserts.
When asked about whether any of the nuclear
material was moved before the strikes, the U
.S. Secretary of Defense lashed out.
There's been a lot of discussion about what
happened and what didn't happen.
Shut back for a second.
Because of decisive military action, President Trump created

(57:17):
the conditions to end the war, decimating, choose
your word, whoops, decimating, whoops, whoops, obliterating, destroying
Iran's nuclear capabilities.
Adding to the confusion, the director of the
CIA, John Ratcliffe, now says the strikes did
destroy key sites, but stopped short of declaring

(57:38):
that Iran's nuclear program was wiped out.
Meanwhile, the Financial Times is reporting that preliminary
intelligence assessments provided to European government indicate that
Iran's stockpile of uranium was not concentrated at
Fordow at the time of last week's attack,
but had already been moved to other locations.
This comes as Tehran acknowledged its facilities sustained

(58:02):
significant damage.
However, in his first remarks since Iran's ceasefire
with Israel, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei asserted that the
United States had gained nothing.
They attacked our nuclear facilities, which would, of
course, merit criminal prosecution in international courts, but
they didn't achieve anything significant.
The US president exaggerated events in an unusual

(58:24):
way, and it turned out he needed this
exaggeration.
Everyone who heard these words understood there's another
truth behind it.
They could not achieve the objective they set
for themselves.
The only way to know for sure is
with on-site inspection, but Tehran has just
passed a law ending cooperation with the International
Atomic Energy Agency.
The global nuclear watchdog says it's yet to

(58:47):
receive any official notification on the matter.
By the way, Rob, the constitutional lawyer, did
what I asked him to do.
He gave us a 353 word report summary
on if President Trump committed a war crime,
and also added to that a short rundown

(59:08):
on the authorized use of military force.
And you have to know Rob was a
jag, so he comes from the business.
And no, of course not.
Of course it was not a war crime.
Under the Geneva Convention.
But that's in the show notes under Iran
if you want to go take a look
at that.
Even 353 words will be too long to

(59:30):
read on the show.
I like the fact that Khomeini has become
slightly a Baghdad Bob.
Yeah.
Yeah, a little bit.
But yeah.
What's always jarring to me is he has
that picture of himself in the background.
No, that's the original guy in the background.
Oh, that's the OG guy.
I'm like, wow, he looked a lot better
in the picture.

(59:51):
That's the Omani.
Oh, that's the OG guy.
Okay.
I'd say we can go back to business
and we can go back.
And what are we fighting with Canada now?
I think we're fighting with Canada.
Yes.
Well, I don't know what that's about.
That's some sort of strange distraction.
Yeah, plague.

(01:00:12):
Because there's no explanation for it.
Carney never came out and said why he's
doing it.
Oh, no, I have him.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You'll be surprised.
Canada's digital services tax on foreign tech giants
has sparked a fierce U.S. backlash, with
Donald Trump deciding to halt all trade talks
with Ottawa.

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In a post on Truth Social, the U
.S. president called Canada's decision a direct and
blatant attack on the U.S., accusing it
of copying the European country's actions and warning
of a new tariff response.
Based on this egregious tax, we are hereby
terminating all discussions on trade with Canada, effective

(01:00:53):
immediately.
We will let Canada know the tariff that
they will be paying to do business with
the United States of America within the next
seven-day period.
I'm always so disappointed they don't read the
thank you for your attention to this matter
line of the tweet, but okay.
Canada's digital services tax, which is set to
take effect on Monday, is a new levy

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expected to cost the largest American tech giants
billions of dollars.
Companies like Amazon, Google, Uber, and Airbnb offering
digital services and earning over $20 million in
revenue from Canadian sources will be taxed 3
% on the money they make from Canadian
users and customers.

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The decision comes as Canada and the U
.S. were deep in negotiation to ease Trump's
25% tariffs on Canadian goods, which within
months had resulted in major economic dislocations, job
losses, and a drop in southbound exports.
But the two leaders who met at the
G7 in Alberta last week agreed to solve

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the trade dispute within 30 days.
The Canadian Prime Minister spoke to reporters assuring
that despite Trump's recent decision, Canada would not
back down.
It's negotiation.
That's all that it is.
Carney thinks he can play the Trump game.
Okay.

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That'll be fun to watch.
Okay, that's exactly what it is.
I could do that.
If he pulls this stunt, I'll do the
same thing.
I could negotiate.
So at least he's trying.
I'll give him that.
It's like, oh yeah, we're negotiating.
This is what you do in negotiation.
Queen Ursula, now, she's way, way outside of

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her lane.
I briefed leaders on the current state of
play in our trade talks with the United
States.
President Trump and I had a good discussion
at the G7 Summit in Canada.
Back then, we agreed to speed up the
work with a clear goal, an agreement before
the 9th of July.
Today, we received the latest U.S. document

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for further negotiations.
We are assessing it as we speak right
now.
So our message today is clear.
We are ready for a deal.
At the same time, we are preparing for
the possibility that no satisfactory agreement is reached.
This is why we consulted on a rebalancing

(01:03:23):
list.
And we will defend the European interest as
needed.
In short, all options remain on the table.
She is a technocrat.
This is not going to work.
All options remain on the table.
No, you've got to do something like Carney
did.
You know, be a douche.

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That's not how it's going to work.
She's no good.
No, she's no good.
Meanwhile, it's like the Supreme Court of the
United States just woke up and went, oh,
you know, we should probably look at some
of that stuff.
Yeah, maybe nationwide injunctions aren't really something that

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should happen.
I think this is amazing.
Republicans and Democrats have both complained about this
in the past, but they would have continued
to do this had they not overdone it.
Yes.
Yes, exactly.
Well, here's the report.
This is such a big day.

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The Supreme Court ruled federal district courts issuing
nationwide injunctions likely exceeded the authority granted to
them by Congress.
The issue was brought to the court in
the case over President Trump's executive order ending
birthright citizenship and challenged the ability of one
court to put a country wide hold on
an executive order.

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It gives power back to people that should
have it, including Congress, including the presidency.
94 districts and 35 out of the 40
opinions with nationwide injunctions came from five liberal
districts in this country.
No longer.
California is one of those five districts referenced.

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And during the Trump administration news conference, California
Attorney General Rob Bonta joined attorneys general from
other states to call for a nationwide injunction.
I'm hopeful that the court will see that
a patchwork of state injunctions where birthright citizenship
stands for some states but not others would
inevitably create administrative chaos, sparking widespread confusion and

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spurring questions we don't have the answers to.
California Governor Gavin Newsom issued this statement saying
in part, while the executive order is still
temporarily blocked from going into effect, the decision
is deeply disappointing.
Loyola law professor Jessica Levinson predicts how this
plays out in the short term.
The Trump administration is going to go back
to federal district judges that issued these nationwide

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injunctions and say you don't have the power
to do this.
You need to provide more limited relief.
I think at the same time those who
have challenged the president's executive orders will very
quickly try to refashion their suits so that
they are asking instead for something like relief

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under a class action status instead.
More lawfare.
Class actions.
Probably they're going to use that as the
next thing but those are harder to do.
I have John Yu.
Good old John Yu.
Who summarizes better than anybody else for good
reason.

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He's on Fox talking about the Supreme Court
action today.
I have two clips.
Let's start with nationwide injunctions by these district
judges.
Where are we on that after this ruling?
They're dead.
100% dead.
The Supreme Court has said now definitively district
judges of which there are about 700 around

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the country in every major city.
They can decide the cases before them.
They can give remedies like injunctions to the
parties in the courtroom.
But what they can't do is impose it
against the government throughout the entire country at
once.
Really that's the Supreme Court's job.
What the court has said is yes it's

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going to be possible now for the birth
rights citizenship order to be struck down in
Boston but still upheld in Texas.
That it might still be possible for people
to get passports in Boston who might not
get them in Texas.
But that's the job of the Supreme Court
to resolve that conflict.
It's not the job of any individual district
trial judge to do.

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This is a really big win for the
presidency.
Not just Donald Trump but the presidency.
Because what the court has also respected here
is that the president is elected by the
American people to carry out an agenda and
it's important and right for him to be
able to pursue that throughout the country at
once.
And you're so right that this has been

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presidents from both parties have always complained about
this.
And President Trump finally did something about it.
I think that's pretty cool.
For murder.
Well they had to because they were abusing
it with him.
And that's what brought it to a head.
This could have gone on forever if these
guys hadn't gotten carried away.
We had a good thing going guys.
What did you do?
They had a good thing going until they

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abused it.
Now the thing about this is they also
went after Judge Jackson.
Oh everyone hates her now.
She's dumb.
She's dumb.
And they're really going after her in every
way.
I didn't clip it because it's five minutes
long but it's five minutes of her saying
I don't understand.
Yeah we all saw the supercut.

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Every case for the last one year.
I don't understand this.
She makes it sound stupid.
But she is called out on this by
you?
No not by you but you was presented
with one of the comments that she made
and these two guys this robbers on Fox.

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They laugh about it.
It's a pretty funny little bit.
I think that the fact that the court
in the decision called out Jackson and then
everyone signed off on it.
This was a rebuke.
And people have to realize that's what it
was.
She was not following the principles of the
way the court's supposed to act.

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And she was freelancing and I got a
letter from somebody you guys are mean about
this.
You got one of those?
I can't believe someone spelled your name right.
That's amazing.
It's like she went off the rails and
started talking about it.
I looked at her opinion which was separate.

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And she was you know talking about this
and that.
She was being philosophical to an extreme and
it wasn't really following the way they want
things done.
And so they rebuked her and I thought
this was a funny clip.
Amy Coney Barrett wrote the majority opinion and
I thought that this clause from it was

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really interesting.
She wrote, quote, We will not dwell on
Justice Jackson's argument which is at odds with
more than two centuries worth of precedent not
to mention the Constitution itself.
We observe only this.
Justice Jackson decries an imperial executive while embracing
an imperial judiciary.

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Smack!
Oh boy.
I'm glad I'm not there right now.
I'm sure they're going to be great friends
afterwards.
Especially when they need each other for the
fifth vote on one of their cases.
But Justice Jackson's dissent, I have to say,
I thought was a little over the top.
She's basically saying this is the collapse of
the rule of law.
You're going to have irresponsible presidents defying the

(01:10:53):
rule of law, doing what they want.
And the courts, no one's going to stop
them.
I don't think that's quite right.
This is, in the long run, as a
legal issue, not that important.
It's important as a political issue for the
effect it has on the government, its ability
to pursue law.
But this is actually the judiciary restraining itself,
saying we're only going to apply our powers

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to the cases before us.
We're not here as the judiciary to run
the whole government.
And so who benefits from that?
Presidents do.
But presidents are democratically accountable and electable.
The American people who are watching this show,
listening to you, John, they should not think
that the rule of law is collapsing all
around them.
It's not happening.
Basically, things are going to function normally.

(01:11:34):
This is just really a narrow legal issue
about the power of individual trial judges.
The Supreme Court's always there, and they're going
to decide these questions in the end.
I thought that was a good summation.
Yeah, it was good.
But here's a little update from the troll
room, just to give you an idea of
what I get.
Ready?

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Always.
Do you want a voice?
Or should I just read it straight?
It's never that funny when I read it
straight.
Yeah, you might as well do the voice.
Smokin' Cheese is my name.
Smokin' Cheese.
Adam's love of Trump is going to backfire
on him.
I love how they think I love Trump.
I love Trump.

(01:12:16):
Trump is waging war for the Zios while
cutting taxes for the billionaire class, and then
printing money to pay for it, and then
taxing everyone else by inserting tariffs and stealing
from Social Security and Medicare, while creating legal
mechanisms to jail and deport U.S. citizens.
Wow.

(01:12:37):
Dude, no U.S. citizen's been jailed or
deported.
He's in the wrong troll room, man.
Go over to Blue Sky, dude.
That probably is the dude from Blue Sky.
I have one...
I go to Blue Sky once a month.
Something that he said, that guy, is that
I think Mamdavi, this New York guy, I

(01:13:00):
think it's possible the more I've been looking
at this character, he has a bunch of
interesting opinions that I think people are misjudging
him.
They keep calling him a socialist, a socialist.
He calls himself a democrat socialist, and he's
got socialist, communist ideas.
But he's not a socialist.
He is a populist.

(01:13:22):
He is the democrat version of Trump.
This is what they wanted.
This is what's so beautiful about him.
Yes.
Now, this is what they wanted.
I agree with that, for sure, because that's
what they keep talking about.
So they've got this guy.
I think he will get in, because I
know what they're going to do with Eric

(01:13:42):
Adams.
They're going to say, he's cooperating with ICE.
He's cooperating with Trump.
He hates Trump.
They hate Trump in New York, so this
guy can get in.
If he doesn't completely screw the pooch in
New York, in other words, he manages to
do a balancing act and become a reasonably

(01:14:03):
not a disaster mayor, that approach of his
could become super popular.
So this is all over the top, but
he may actually be much more moderate, and
maybe the buses will be free.
And the buses might be free, and he
has got this one thing in his craw

(01:14:25):
that only comes up once in a while,
but if you read into it enough, he
doesn't think any billionaire should exist in the
country.
That is an extremely populist idea.
If I was one of those rich Democrats,
most billionaires are Democrats, people.
I'd be like, yeah, great.

(01:14:46):
You better start finding ways to hide your
money.
It's just so beautiful.
That's a very good point.
That's a very good point.
That could be the Democrat Party's version of
a populist who then dials it way back.
But I don't know.

(01:15:06):
To me, this is everything that the Democrat
Party, every talking point is this guy.
Every talking point.
And then they got this guy, and then
Tina and I were at some Mexican place
having lunch yesterday.
I love the Mexican restaurants.
I've got a million TV screens all on
Fox.
The TV screens, none of them are at

(01:15:27):
the same height.
There's something about Mexican culture, I notice it
all the time.
Straight, there's nothing as straight.
There's always a little crooked.
Have you noticed that?
Well, that's an interesting observation.
When you go to Mexico, which I used
to do a lot when I was younger,
they'd have all these, I always noticed these

(01:15:49):
half-built houses all the way down to
Ensenada, all the way to the tip.
There's just these half-built houses and I
asked somebody, some Mexican guy, oh, yeah.
He says, yeah, you want it that way.
You want your half-built house because they
don't start taxing it until it's done.
So everything is like, you know, got a
kind of a funny quality.
And you're right.
Yes, I notice they're not into like the

(01:16:11):
long, straight line.
No, it's not their culture, which is fine.
But I just love seeing three TV screens,
big screens on the wall and none of
them at the same height.
I'm like, I don't get it.
Anyway, and you saw the Democrats going, oh,
what are we going to do?
And the rich Democrats of New York, oh,
what are we going to do?
There's the guy who owns the supermarkets.

(01:16:34):
He's on Fox Business.
I'm closing down my supermarkets.
I'm not going to let the government run
my supermarkets.
Okay, bro.
Sure.
So it's just a fun fight.
Then, you know, Fredericksburg.
Oh, I'm never going to New York again.
New York is lost.
It's lost.
I'm like, New York's been lost forever.

(01:16:56):
Although my neighbors, Claudia, she's a hospitalist.
You know, she takes care of, she's really
in charge of the patients.
She's kind of the patient advocate.
And she was out walking her two little
dogs.
These things are like barking little things.
And she's from Dominican Republic and she's with
her boyfriend.
He's ex-military and her brother and a

(01:17:17):
million kids.
They're all walking the dogs on the streets
like, we're in New York.
And then all of a sudden we saw
the bombs dropping and we're like, what are
we going to do?
And they went into the hotel room and
just stayed there.
And like, we're so worried about everything.
I'm like, yeah, that's exactly what happens to
people.
They get so freaked out because they're just
watching Fox News or MSNBC.
It doesn't really matter what you're watching.

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I'm glad we got back to Texas.
Call it TV.
Yes, call it TV.
Exactly.
So then, the Supreme Court made a very
interesting ruling which I, in principle, I agree
with the ruling.
I don't think it curtails the free speech
of adults.
But, more importantly, I think it moves closer

(01:18:00):
towards what I have always said is going
to happen.
And that will be the end of anonymity
on the Internet.
The other big news here today, the United
States Supreme Court has upheld a Texas law
that requires pornographic websites to conduct age verification
of its users.
This ruling is one of the final decisions
of the term handed down by the nation's
highest court earlier today.

(01:18:21):
With that, let's bring an eye on politics
reporter Jack Fink.
Talk about it a little bit, especially about
the impact of this decision today and what
else does this legislation do?
Well, Doug, this two-year-old Texas law
has been held up in the courts, but
now because the U.S. Supreme Court has
backed the state of Texas, it can go
into effect.
As you said, pornographic websites will now have
to have some form of age verification for

(01:18:44):
its users or customers.
To be considered pornographic, the sites have to
have more than a third of their content
as sexual in nature.
The law allows the Texas Attorney General's office
to enforce this ruling, investigate any potential violations
and complaints, and assess fines as well.
The author of this bill that became law,

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Republican State Representative Matt Shaheen of Prosper, called
it a triumph.
This was a clear victory for Texas children.
It was pornographic websites against our Texas families
and the Supreme Court sided with our Texas
families, so it's a great day for Texas
in protecting our children from this smut.
In a statement opposing the ruling, Alison Bowden,

(01:19:25):
Executive Director of the Free Speech Coalition, said
the government should not have the right to
demand that we sacrifice our privacy and security
to use the internet.
This law has failed to keep minors away
from sexual content, yet continues to have a
massive chilling effect on adults.
This, of course, is completely ridiculous that, you
know, somehow people won't be able to get

(01:19:48):
around a Texas block or whatever with a
VPN, like kids are stupid.
But it's really about identification for your, it'll
be about you want to get on the
internet?
You're going to have to ID yourself everywhere
you go.
And I find the one-third rule to
be very interesting.

(01:20:09):
No, that's so stupid.
I mean, the first thing you do, say
I want to run a porn site, so
I want to have I have to beat
this one-third rule.
So I have a porn site, I load
it up with terabytes full of PDF files
that are just random about oceanography.
And then if you click on this one

(01:20:30):
link, you get my 120% of the
rest of it is porn.
And the oceanography stuff, 80%, it's not going
to be using bandwidth or anything because nobody's
going to go to that stuff.
So the point, this is dumb.
But it's not about that.
And by the way, you have this thesis,

(01:20:50):
I have to say you have kept this
thesis alive in your self forever.
It's going to happen.
It might, but it's not happening anytime soon.
Oh, ye of little faith.
It's not happening anytime soon.
I will say, and this is not the
fix for it, but porn addiction is a

(01:21:11):
real thing.
There are so many young men and women
completely, completely addicted to porn.
Yeah, we've talked about this before.
And it's a real problem.
And it ruins everything.
Ruins relationships.
People get addicted to gambling, they get addicted
to porn, addicted to smoking.

(01:21:32):
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah, people have a problem.
I could only get 29 second report of
this.
It just kind of flew by.
I couldn't even get the first Washington on
there.
Post journalist is facing some serious charges tonight.
48 year old Thomas Legros was arrested at
his DC home Thursday.

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He's accused of possessing child pornography.
FBI agents say they found explicit videos on
his laptop and what looked like a broken
hard drive in his basement.
Legros name also came up in an investigation
involving online payments for illegal content.
He is now on leave from the post
where he oversaw video content.
His detention hearing is set for Monday.

(01:22:15):
Yeah, they kind of missed the fact that
he won a Pulitzer Prize.
That's great.
I would like to hear more about that.
But before we leave this topic about what
would happen with the Supreme Court.
There's more from the Supreme Court.
We have to visit Brooks and Capehart.
Can I do one more Supreme Court ruling
before we go to Brooks?

(01:22:35):
Because the Brooks and Capehart will top it
all.
Oh yeah, I'm sure.
Well, this is just factual and it's so
interesting that of course all the ads like
oh, the Republicans the big beautiful bill which
has some stuff on too.
We can do it later.
They're going to cut Medicare, Medicaid.
You're going to die.

(01:22:57):
Well, this is one of the ways they're
cutting.
Tessa, the state first pulled Medicaid funding from
Planned Parenthood in 2018 because it provided abortions.
With this new ruling, states can now cut
off Medicaid dollars to the provider even for
health care unrelated to ending a pregnancy.
Justice Jackson in her dissent.

(01:23:18):
This is the lady from Planned Parenthood.
If individuals don't have rights to sue to
protect their own rights then civil rights means
nothing.
And we would agree with that.
In response to the Supreme Court decision, Governor
Henry McMaster sharing a statement on X saying

(01:23:39):
quote, seven years ago we took a stand
to protect the sanctity of life and defend
South Carolina's authority and values.
And today we are finally victorious.
End quote.
Vicki Ringer with Planned Parenthood South Atlantic says
only 3.5% of South Carolina patients
are on Medicaid and the ruling won't impact

(01:23:59):
services.
The good news for patients in South Carolina
is that nothing will change for them.
We will continue to treat South Carolina patients
who use Medicaid as their insurance plan.
We just won't bill them for it or
bill Medicaid.
They can continue to get their care for

(01:24:20):
as long as we can cover it without
charge.
This one ruling and this one political decision
from the governor or the legislature will not
force us to close our doors.
To clear up misconceptions, Ringer clarifies that according
to federal law, Medicaid can only pay for

(01:24:40):
an abortion in the case of rape, incest,
or to preserve the mother's life.
You know, the thing I don't What is
she bitching about?
They're going to cover it.
Well, under those cases.
Well, fine.
This is about time some charity showed up
in the formula here and said everything coming

(01:25:01):
out of the taxpayer's pocket.
When I was growing up, when I was
a kid, you know, it was like, don't
be daft, don't be silly, put a snakeskin
on your willy.
When did we lose the idea of being
careful?
Well, the funny thing is Planned Parenthood started.

(01:25:21):
Yes.
Well, they started as a eugenicist group.
No, they didn't.
Yes, they did.
That evolved, that evolved.
I've looked into this.
I've looked into it too.
I disagree with you.
She started off as a promoter of condoms
because nobody, they were illegal for all practical
purposes.
You're telling me Margaret Sanger started as a
condom advocate?

(01:25:41):
No.
Yeah.
That was 1930.
Well, we can disagree on that, and I
will, but I'm not agreeing to disagree.
Don't agree to disagree.
There were over a million abortions in the
U.S. in 2024.
A million.
There's too many.
There's too many abortions.
It's like, that was the number one thing.

(01:26:04):
You know, when you were 15 your dad
would say, here, here kid, here's a rubber.
It's like, okay.
You know, what happened?
What happened there?
Well, you don't need it when you have
an abortion like the same thing in Russia.
It's cheaper.
Especially if somebody else is paying for it.
John C.
DeVore, the great defender of Margaret Sanger.

(01:26:25):
I will not defend Margaret Sanger.
I disagree with that.
So let's play Brooks and Capehart.
And I have three clips.
I have the opener on PBS because they
talk about the Supreme Court stuff a little
bit and then I have Brooks going on
about porn in schools.

(01:26:45):
Ah, yes.
And then I have Brooks the last one
is Brooks on any topic.
Okay.
Opener?
Let's turn now to the analysis of Brooks
and Capehart.
That is New York Times columnist David Brooks
and Jonathan Capehart, associate editor for the Washington
Post.
And we should say that you are both
joining us tonight from the Aspen Ideas Festival

(01:27:07):
in Colorado.
Your beautiful backgrounds make me wish I was
there with you guys.
It's great to see you.
Let's jump right in to those Supreme Court
decisions today.
Big wins for the president.
One on allowing religious parents to opt their
kids out of LGBTQ learning and storybooks in
school.
The other severely limiting lower courts ability to
issue nationwide injunctions.

(01:27:29):
We heard President Trump very happily thank the
justices who ruled in his favor earlier today.
Take a listen.
I want to thank Justice Barrett who wrote
the opinion brilliantly as well as Chief Justice
Roberts and Justices Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Thomas.
Great people.
They are now.
Jonathan, kick us off here.
What's your reaction to those rulings?
What do you take away from that?

(01:27:51):
Well, on the injunction ruling you know, I
reached out to a former senior official in
a Democratic administration just to get their take
on it.
And the response back was mixed bag.
And it's mixed bag because on the one
hand Democratic presidents and Republican presidents never liked
it when a lower court judge reached in

(01:28:11):
and stopped them from doing something with a
nationwide injunction.
I'm thinking particularly of President Biden and say
student loan debt forgiveness.
Hold on.
What?
It was the Supreme Court that put the
kibosh on Biden who told him to pound
sand.
So okay, we got that wrong.

(01:28:32):
Yeah.
You hate these guys so much.
You have your hate listens.
Yeah, I do.
I do.
So I have now we're going to listen
to K part on the porn in schools.
When it comes to the LGBT school ruling,
you know, for that to come out that

(01:28:53):
day after the 10th anniversary of the Obergefell
ruling, which legalized same sex marriage, made it
a constitutional right is really, you know, it's
painful.
It's also speak.
It speaks to the court's willingness to, you
know, be a party to erasing a whole
community.
Oh goodness.
Let me just give you in short because

(01:29:13):
we have this going on here in Fredericksburg,
this with the public school here and it's
become every single school board meeting.
And by the way, I'm always saying, why
are you wasting your time?
Run for school board.
Get on the school board.
You know what?
If I lived in Fredericksburg, we live in

(01:29:35):
unincorporated Fredericksburg, five minutes from Main Street for
some reason, I would run for school board.
No problem.
The problem is every single one of those
people in the school board has been threatened
by the ACLU that they will be sued
personally.
That's what this is about.
It's the ACLU.
They're the problem.
Those books, they're stupid.

(01:29:55):
They really are lame.
They defend the books by saying you're erasing
a community.
It's bull crap.
It's bull crap.
It's total bull crap.
And now I have a kind of a
universal clip I can play anytime.
This turns out to be the answer.
This is Brooks on anything.

(01:30:22):
I know.
Why don't you tell us what the format
of the show was supposed to be, Jon?
Well, typical of these shows, you're supposed to
get perspective from two opposing viewpoints.
That's the idea.
That's what helps the audience take two opposing
viewpoints on the same topic.

(01:30:42):
And one of them says this, and one
of them says that.
And you, as the viewer, say, well, I
can see what he means.
I can see this.
I can see that.
So you can understand it, as opposed to
two guys that vehemently, vehemently agree with each
other.
All the time!
Who was supposed to be the Republican?

(01:31:02):
Brooks was supposed to be the Republican, but
he's never been a Republican.
He's always been a...
not a lefty, kind of a middle-of
-the-road Democrat.
And Kay Parsh is a gay liberal.
All right.
Let's go to the big, beautiful...
By the way, you're so right.
I'm looking at the quad screen right now,
and it said, Eric Adams worked with ICE!

(01:31:25):
They were so right.
Nailed it.
There it is.
Eric Adams worked with ICE.
He's no good.
We go to the big, beautiful bill, which
coincidentally Elon Musk came out against again today,
that it would set us back, be horrible.
I think Trump is putting everything on this

(01:31:47):
because he wants those tax cuts, and I'm
sure there's tons of nonsense in there.
Oh, there must be a ton.
Tons of nonsense.
Well, it's on the Senate floor.
A rare Saturday session in the Senate.
We have before us today a once-in
-a-generation opportunity to deliver legislation to create
a safer, stronger, and more prosperous America.

(01:32:08):
Senate Republicans are trying to pull a fast
one on the American people.
Lawmakers work through their holiday recess, racing to
meet a July 4th deadline to advance President
Trump's so-called big, beautiful bill.
The president stayed in town, too, golfing with
senators, urging them to tee it up.
We'd like to get it done.

(01:32:29):
Overnight, Senate Republicans released the 900-plus page
bill, which includes more funding for the president's
top priorities, including border security, defense, and an
extension of his 2017 tax cuts.
But it comes with deep spending cuts to
food assistance and Medicaid, including a projected $930

(01:32:49):
billion reduction, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
She doesn't mention that's over 10 years, but
that's kind of interesting how they just throw
that in there.
According to the Congressional Budget Office.
What they're trying to do is to cut
back on these health care programs and health
insurance for 16 million Americans to pay for

(01:33:10):
tax breaks for wealthy people.
Even some Republicans have threatened to oppose the
package, citing concerns about the potential impact to
rural hospitals.
But others say it's time to act.
Are we ready to put our pens down
and move forward?
The Medicare cuts are the ones that get
me.
I mean, I've not read all 900 pages

(01:33:32):
yet.
I typically read whatever's passed, when it's really
passed, when we have one big, beautiful, solid
bill.
And then we'll go through it and we'll
find all the funding for UFO projects and
everything else.
There's always some cool stuff hidden in there.
I enjoy it.
But these cuts are really for people who
are just sucking off the system.

(01:33:54):
You know?
It's like, no.
And then illegals who are here and getting
health care.
No, no.
This is exactly what the president ran on.
It sucks.
We're a nice people in America.
We don't really want to hurt anybody.
Well, you do.
You have to.
There's your eggs analogy.

(01:34:15):
But I may not have to read it,
because I guess Chuck Schumer's going to read
it for me.
To address some of those GOP concerns, the
bill now includes a $25 billion rural hospital
fund.
It also rolls back clean energy tax credits
from the Biden era, angering Democrats.
In fact, they hope to slow this vote
down by demanding that the entire bill be

(01:34:36):
read on the Senate floor, which could take
up to 15 hours.
Lovely.
I love that.
Especially if you get those one.
Replace paragraph 5 U.S. law 17-329
with any time instead of all time.
Yeah.
There's lots of that.

(01:34:57):
I'm looking forward to reading it.
It'll be fun.
I'm sure there's all kinds of good stuff
in there.
Of course, the no tax on tips was
a big promise from the president.
Even my stepdaughter in New York, she's like,
oh, I like this Trump, because she works
at a bar.
And, you know, typically people in service industry

(01:35:19):
get paid very low wages.
It was like $3 an hour.
I don't know.
Yeah, I think in New York it's between
$2 and $4 an hour.
And tips is where they make their money.
Here's Lawrence O'Donnell explaining what it's really about.
Donald Trump told a story today about how

(01:35:40):
he came up with the idea that he's
very proud of no tax on tips.
Remember, most American workers do not receive tips,
so this is not a tax break for
them.
It is a tax break for people who
Donald Trump likes better than the people who
don't receive tips.

(01:36:01):
How does that work?
The logic is this.
I don't understand the logic.
It gets better.
Donald Trump said it happened in Las Vegas
when someone he called a, quote, young beautiful
waitress told him that she didn't want to
pay taxes on her tips.
She looked at me, she said, sir, there

(01:36:21):
should be no tax on tips.
I said, say it again.
There should be no tax on tips.
I said, that's the coolest thing I've ever
heard.
I walked outside.
The press was there, as always, waiting for
something bad to happen.
Hundreds of them.
I said, ladies and gentlemen, please announce tonight
there will be no tax on tips.

(01:36:43):
There are many reasons why no Secretary of
the Treasury has ever advised a president to
have no tax on tips.
You just heard the stupidest story ever told
by a president about tax policy.
So Donald Trump thinks some income should be

(01:37:03):
protected from taxation and some shouldn't.
So a Las Vegas lap dancers income should
be tax free, but a Las Vegas public
school teacher must pay full taxes on all
income.
Straight from Reseda, here she is, Raven, give
it up.

(01:37:26):
I love how he did that.
That was good.
That was good, Larry.
Wow, that guy.
How did you...
Does that guy still have a job?
Yes, and I'm sure he makes more than
we do.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Tons more.
Tons more.
All right.
I have a little side clip, a little
clip just to say it was entertaining.

(01:37:47):
Yeah, sure.
Your buddy...
Oh, here we go.
Is that Scott Galloway?
No, you know, I have trouble clipping that
guy.
He's so slow talking and...
Well, he talks with his mouth like this.
And he kind of talks with his teeth.
Through a slit.
And he is...

(01:38:09):
It's hard to watch him.
He always likes to be on video and
he's just so smug.
Someone convinced them that they should do a
video.
And I was like, oh, without video, it's
really nothing.
You really have to have video.
Your podcast is no good without video.
Let me see how many people watch that
stupid podcast on YouTube.

(01:38:30):
Although, stupid, I love the podcast, I have
to say.
Yes.
Yeah, you love Hate It.
It's a great podcast.
So Kennedy...
Oh, that's my buddy.
She almost killed you.
She broke my butt.
Should I tell the story?
I should probably tell the story.
Yeah, you might as well reframe the story

(01:38:50):
because we have not heard it for probably
five years.
MTV Beach House.
First year.
Great idea.
We all go out to Quag.
Which is, you got the Hamptons and then
you got all the poor people.
They live in Quag.
It's beyond the Hamptons.
Big house on the beach.
It was an experiment.

(01:39:10):
Worked out really well.
It later became a reality show when everybody
realized that all that happened in MTV Beach
House was just a lot of drinking and
screwing around.
So all the VJs would be out there
for the summers.
Real pain in the butt.
You'd drive three and a half hours from
the city to get there.
And, you know, so we did all the
typical beach house things and then we're on

(01:39:31):
wave runners.
These days known as jet skis, which they're
not.
They're wave runners.
So I'm doing my segment.
But I'm, you know, but I'm sitting on
the wave runner and the camera guy's on
the other wave runner and he's, you know,
I'm doing my segment and all of a
sudden Kennedy rams into me with her wave
runner thinking she was funny and so I

(01:39:52):
go flying off the wave runner and hit
my left buttock right on the edge of
the wave runner and to this day there's
still a crease in my butt.
And it was black and blue for months.
And she never really said sorry, which I've
always wanted to talk to her about.
And I almost got on her podcast but

(01:40:13):
then they canceled on me.
Oh, that's too bad.
Yeah.
Well, her podcast isn't that good.
No offense to her.
I, of course, have forgiven her since then
but it'd be fun to talk about it.
Well, she's quite lively on Gutfeld and I
got butt slammed.
That's right, trolls.
I literally got butt slammed by Kennedy.

(01:40:34):
There you go.
So she was on Stelter or said Stelter
on her podcast?
No, no.
She has an anecdote that I thought was
amusing.
It's more of a real news story.
You get to clip up real quick because
this is a real news story.
It's a little gossip.
And now, back to Reunions.
And I hate to give Brian Stelter any

(01:40:55):
credit for anything because he really is a
giant human potato who's obsessed with Emily Campagno.
It was really, really creepy.
Really?
I did not know that.
I did say spill the tea.
Like in front of his wife, he's like,
Emily, I'm your biggest fan.
And I was like, get away from her.
You are literally two inches and half a

(01:41:18):
glass of Chardonnay away from pumping her leg.
You never get to hear these stories on
your shows, Kilmeade.
Oh, brother.
Wow.
My story was better than that.
Yeah, but I, you know, it was better,
actually, but it was kind of lascivious.
I like the lasciviousness of Stelter fawning all

(01:41:41):
over this woman, Emily Campagno, who she's referring
to as the X-Raider head cheerleader turned
lawyer turned enthusiastic host.
You know, she's on various Fox shows.
Really cute.
And she turned beet red kind of even
though she was right there when the story

(01:42:03):
was pointing at her and she said, yeah,
I guess this is a true story because
she didn't deny it.
Emily Campagno.
Wikipedia doesn't even have a picture of her.
What's wrong with you, Wikipedia?
Just look at images.
There's a thousand pictures of Emily Campagno.
If you can find the ones when she

(01:42:24):
was the head cheerleader at the Raiders, she
was blonde.
Huh.
Let me see.
Cheerleader for the Raiders.
Yeah, head cheerleader.
She's one of those women.
She's one of those women that has to
be a nightmare.

(01:42:46):
No, because she's so high energy.
It's like, come on, let's go horse riding.
Let's go dancing.
Get out of the house.
Sit up.
What are you doing sitting?
Grab a hula hoop.
Do something.
Be horrible.
I wouldn't mind hearing about, you seem to
have a series on pride flags, which the

(01:43:07):
fact that you put a series together means
something in here is good and I don't
want it to wait until after we take
a break because, you know.
All right, I can do it.
This is PBS has been doing.
It's still Pride Month.
It's the 29th, so it's still Pride Month.
So there's this big controversy.
They're trying to push pride flags all over

(01:43:27):
the place, which is really skeptical.
I don't have mixed feelings about it.
I just don't think it's a good idea
to have your state flag, your American flag,
and then a pride flag.
It's a sexual thing.
So what are you putting that up there
for?
But okay, so PBS is all behind it

(01:43:50):
too.
Oh God, yes.
Let's do a promotion.
They're basically promoting using the pride flag.
Now, most of these clips are fairly short,
but they're a little long, but they all
have kind of a punchline, so it makes
it worthwhile.
Let's start with one.
This year marks a decade since same-sex
marriage was legalized nationwide, but in several Republican
-led states, efforts are underway to ban pride

(01:44:11):
flags from public schools and government buildings, sparking
a wave of local resistance.
Dima Zayn has the story.
Welcome!
In Salt Lake City, a historic flag raising.
You are welcome here because in Salt Lake
City, you belong.
The city adopted a new official flag called

(01:44:31):
the Sago Belonging Flag, featuring LGBTQ colors underneath
the city's Sago flower.
What we're doing today is about the dignity
and the worth of every single person in
this community.
No matter who they are, no matter who
they love.
The move coming just hours before a new
law took effect in Utah, banning public schools

(01:44:53):
and government buildings in the state from displaying
any flags that aren't officially approved.
Utah was the first state in the nation
to ban pride flags from public buildings, but
not the last.
Idaho and Montana have adopted similar bans in
recent weeks, and at least eight other states
with Republican-controlled legislatures are considering the idea.
Orion Rumler covers LGBTQ issues in politics for

(01:45:16):
the 19th News.
Hey, how come we can't get a gig
like that?
Cover LGBTQ issues for the news?
This is a great gig!
It's a permanent gig for sure.
In politics for the 19th News.
Republican lawmakers have framed these bans as a

(01:45:37):
necessary way to make state houses and government
buildings and schools, depending on the length of
the ban, neutral places.
But some cities are pushing back.
Like in Boise, Idaho, where a pride flag
has flown for several years outside City Hall.
Yeah.
I agree.

(01:45:58):
Does a pride flag outside of City Hall
in Boise mean that the City Hall is
gay?
The pride flag is about gay, right?
Well, no, it's multiple things.
It's LGBTQ+, disability pride.
Well, it's basically, yes, it's mostly gay.
There's transgender in it.
I'd say mostly trans at this point is

(01:46:19):
what it represents more than anything.
Well, now it's mostly trans.
What happened to the pink triangle?
That was kind of cool.
Well, I don't know, but these guys seem
to be they seem to be all jacked
up about having the pride flag.
You know, some workers flags or a communist
flag or what is the point?
It just bothers me.

(01:46:40):
But I'm just being a boomer here.
So I can get away with it.
Don't worry.
You can get away with it.
I'll get blamed for it.
Yeah, you should be blamed for it.
In fact, you invited it.
We have a motion and a second.
Last month, the City Council voted 5-1
to designate it as an official city flag,

(01:47:01):
which they say will allow them to continue
to fly it and not violate the new
state law.
After years of flying it proudly it would
not be a neutral act.
Boise Mayor Lauren McLean arguing We know.
But that's not just a flag.
We know it says who we are.
You know, it says who we are.

(01:47:23):
That's what I just said.
Boise is gay.
That's what she said.
I want a Tourette's flag.
What would the Tourette's flag look like?
It would be kind of jiggly.
It has its own flagpole that just jitters
the whole time.
Now it gets screwy.
Oh, I see.
I have two threes.
I think the first three is the one

(01:47:46):
we want.
Just two blocks away sits the Idaho State
Capitol, where the legislature voted overwhelmingly to pass
HB 96, a bill that bans quote governmental
entities from displaying any flags other than the
U.S. flag, state and local flags, the
POW flag, or those from military branches and
native tribes.

(01:48:06):
Schools may also display their own banners.
Idaho's Republican Attorney General warns Boise's mayor to
take down the flag or face penalties when
the state legislature comes back in session.
It's going to cost the community and the
city money for violating the law, and she
doesn't pay it out of her pocket.
It's going to cost the citizens of Boise,

(01:48:27):
and I think that's shameful.
In neighboring Montana sits the city of Missoula.
Earlier this month city leaders voted to adopt
the Pride flag as its only official city
flag, despite a new Montana state law that
prohibits flags on state property that quote represent
a political viewpoint including but not limited to
flags or banners regarding a political party, race,

(01:48:49):
sexual orientation, gender, or political ideology.
The Republican governor of Montana, Greg Gianforte, called
the move divisive, posting that Missoula City Council
should be ashamed for imposing a Pride flag
on schools and dividing their community.
This is more than blue dots rebuking the
culture war policies of their Republican controlled legislatures.

(01:49:13):
Choosing to fly those flags as official city
flags sends a message that this city wants
to stand apart from the rest of the
state as a beacon of inclusivity.
A challenge that for now hangs in the
air.
Yeah, I'm kind of regretting this now.
Well, you shouldn't because here comes number three,

(01:49:35):
WTF.
And now we are joined by Salt Lake
City Mayor Erin Mendenhall.
Thank you so much for joining us.
I want to jump in first and ask
your reaction when you heard about Utah's legislation
bill banning all non-official flags at schools
and governmental buildings.
Well, it didn't make a lot of sense
as an urgent topic for our legislature to

(01:49:56):
address and yet they chose to do so.
And we worked really hard to figure out
how we could both abide by that law
and continue to represent the values of Salt
Lake City.
You adopted three other flags amending them as
official city flags allowing you to fly them.
Can you dig in a little deeper here
and talk about what these flags symbolize to

(01:50:17):
you and to your community?
Oh, here we go.
They symbolize the values that have been here
in Salt Lake City for generations.
Diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging.
They do not exclude.
These are flags of inclusion.
We've raised two of them in the month
of June with the Juneteenth flag raising and
pride.

(01:50:37):
And we've heard from hundreds, even thousands of
community members who've said I see myself being
represented in these flags.
I feel seen and valued and wanted and
understood.
And that's what these flags are about.
Oh, man.
I feel valued because of the flag and
understood because there's a flag hanging outside the

(01:51:01):
city hall.
There's a flag that means I feel understood.
What is going on here?
What the hell is that?
You sound like the F-35 guy.
Yeah, well, here we go.
This gets worse.
Here's five.
Utah Governor Spencer Cox didn't sign the bill,
but he also did not veto it, which

(01:51:22):
allowed the law to go into effect.
He was asked about Salt Lake City's pride
flags and here's what he had to say.
I'm sure they feel great that they got
around this dumb law and they did it
with dumb flags.
The whole thing's dumb.
What do you think should be done?
I already said what I thought should be
done.
We should raise the American flag and let's

(01:51:43):
unify around that.
They are dumb flags and it was a
dumb bill.
What's your response to the governor?
It's fine if he wants to say that
about the decision that I made to bring
these flags forward for approval with our city
council.
That's my role as the mayor.
I take that responsibility.
But I don't think it's the right way

(01:52:03):
to address community members who feel validated, seen,
heard, and wanted in their community because they
see these flags flying.
Have you felt or have you had a
bigger sense of the state seeking more control
over your city's ability to function?

(01:52:23):
If there's no flag, you don't feel wanted
by the city or something.
What are we talking about here?
What in the world is this?
By the way, this mayor, this nutball mayor
from Salt Lake City.
It's a Mormon state, which cracks me up,
by the way.
I just find it highly amusing that this

(01:52:45):
is taking place in Utah.
Especially in Salt Lake City, of all places.
I don't know if you've ever been there.
Yes, I have.
I've hung out with the Mormons.
If you go to Salt Lake City, you're
going to hang out with Mormons.
They are the ultimate OG preppers, I'll tell
you that.
So she goes on forever.

(01:53:07):
I just have this last piece of what
she continues to yammer and yammer about inclusivity.
You feel wanted.
You have to have the flag or else.
I think that's a pretty consistent dynamic, especially
in a blue dot capital city in a
red state with a supermajority Republican legislature.
That's not a new experience for us, but

(01:53:30):
it's something that we're constantly navigating.
My administration has a pretty good relationship with
state leaders.
We talk to each other, even when we
disagree, and I think we're going to be
able to keep talking through this.
I don't think this is the end of
what we'll see from the legislature regarding the
flags, but neither is it the end of
our ability to represent our values, and we'll

(01:53:50):
keep finding ways to do so.
Well, there's a controversy brewing around the pride
flag in Fredericksburg that I should probably mention.
Are they flying it at City Hall?
Oh, no, no.
So, we have a coffee place on Main
Street called Java Ranch, and Java Ranch, it's

(01:54:11):
kind of old school.
It's like cowboy interior, and it's just a
coffee place.
You got the kids working there.
They're in their 20s.
I play chess there on Mondays.
It's a nice little hangout.
Wait, wait, stop.
Stop the presses.
Yes.

(01:54:31):
You, wait.
On Mondays, which I consider the no-agenda
day off, you go to the cowboy coffee
shop, the Java Hut, or whatever it's called.
Java Ranch.
Java Ranch, and play chess.
With Willie.
Yes.

(01:54:51):
Is it the chess where you have the
timer?
Well, we have had competitions, and it's Willie's
first invitational.
Willie kind of, we started playing chess.
No one was playing chess there.
Who's Willie?
Oh, Willie's a guy I met in our
church, and he is messed up.

(01:55:14):
Willie's like, that's Willie.
He got the arms out, pretty much like
Trump, like Trump's impression of that journalist.
That's Willie, because Willie had a head-on
collision when he was 19, and, you know.
Is he good at chess?
He's very good at chess.
Interesting.
Okay.
Yeah, because I said, hey, Willie, once I

(01:55:34):
heard his story, I was like, what's wrong
with him?
Is he retired?
What's going on with you?
Because I sat next to him one time,
and he explained to me, he showed me
a picture on his, he only can use
one hand, and he showed the picture of
the wreck of, I mean, the guy who
was next to him got killed in the
accident.
Then he had a couple of strokes, so
Willie's had a tough go of it.
And I said, yeah, we should meet for

(01:55:55):
coffee.
He had Java Ranch.
So we meet at Java Ranch, and he
has a chess set with him.
And the guy turns out to be, like,
kind of a good chess player.
Okay.
Alright, that's enough.
That's how chess came about.
So anyway, you asked.
Yeah, I did.
I'm sorry I did.
Yeah, oh, you should be.
So a new place opened up called Café
House.
K-A-F-F-E-E.

(01:56:16):
Café House.
Yeah.
Yeah, Café House.
And I immediately didn't like it.
Was it next to this place?
No, it's around the corner, and it's very
modern, and it's very nice, and, you know,
So it's not rough and tumble like the
Java Hut.
No, it's douchey.
It's bougie.
Bougie.
Bougie, ooh!

(01:56:36):
It's a café house.
All of a sudden, everyone goes to Café
House.
But I won't go to Café House because
I'm a Java Ranch guy.
I'm loyal.
Like, I still go to the same hair
girl in Austin for 15 years.
I'm loyal.
And so the ladies do their Bible study
there.
Half the church is there.
Probably another reason.
The coffee house.

(01:56:57):
Café House.
Now, here's the controversy.
Recently, some of the kids who work there,
young people, That coffee house.
That coffee house put a little Jesus on
the counter wrapped in a pride flag.
Jesus in a pride flag.
I would consider that sacrilegious.
Yes, of course.

(01:57:17):
And now they're all trying to figure out
what to do about it.
Oh, what to do about it.
Yeah, and I'm like, here's an idea.
Ask them to take the pride flag off.
Well, we did, and they said no.
Well, then you should no longer go there.
You should come back to Java Ranch.
They said no.
They said no.
I have an idea.

(01:57:38):
Take the pride flag off.
No.
Oh.
Why don't you just remove the Jesus and
the pride flag?
That would be fine too.
They can have a pride flag.
I don't think anyone cares if they have
a pride flag in there, but the pride
flag on the Jesus is a bit of
a problem.
It's sacrilegious, yeah.
Yes, and I'm like, well, why do you
keep going there then?

(01:57:58):
Don't go there.
Yeah, but we like coffee house.
Oh, okay.
They just don't like the rough and tumble
nature of the Java joint.
Java Ranch, man.
Oh, the trolls say fire bomb the house.
Fire bomb it.
Now you're talking.
Hey, with that, I want to thank you
for your courage in the morning to you,

(01:58:19):
the man who put the C in the
cheerleaders for the Raiders.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end, the one and the only, Mr. John
C.
Devorah.
Yeah, good morning to you, Mr. Adam Devorah,
ships, sea boots on the ground, feet in
the air, subs in the water, and all
the names and mates out there.
Hold on, trolls.
Hold on.

(01:58:41):
By the way, I'm going to suggest that.
Let's fire bomb the house.
That's a great idea.
Hey, 2,319 trolls checking and listening to
the live stream.
Well, that's good for a Sunday.
What's the number?
2319, so it's about 100 up.
100 up, baby.
100 low.
No, it's usually 22.
It's 22.

(01:59:01):
18 on Thursdays, 22.
Isn't it 22?
Yeah.
You have the post-it note somewhere.
Check it out.
Oh, hold on a second.
Oh, let's see.
There you go.
It's already there.
They're messing with me.
There we go.
You're back.
I said 23.
I think 22 is the norm.

(01:59:21):
Isn't 22 the norm?
No, 25 is the norm.
25?
24 lately.
Last week, we had 26.
No, we're down.
We're down 300.
Trump needs to do something about that.
It's Trump's fault.
He's got to bomb somebody, man.
Come on.
Come on, baby.
Yes, the trolls are listening to us at

(01:59:42):
trollroom.io. You might be right, by the
way.
Well, of course I'm right.
We had big numbers the last couple of
shows because of the bombing.
Yeah, now people like...
Bloodthirsty country.
Those boomers with their Jew money.
We don't get any Jew money.
I think we got one donation from...
We got one Jew thanking us.

(02:00:04):
One lone Jew.
One lone Jew said, hey, thanks for saying
that.
Then we defend them to such an extreme...
We are equal opportunity offenders, believe me.
You can also listen to this program on
a modern podcast app.
Go to podcastapps, that's plural, .com and choose

(02:00:24):
one.
Choose any of them.
These are independent podcast apps that will delight
you with the features they have that go
far beyond any of your legacy apps.
Ooh, nasty legacy apps.
Give them a shot.
I think you'll like it.
There's all kinds of cool things you can
do with them, including listen to the live
stream.
And not just listen to the live stream,
but within 90 seconds of us publishing the

(02:00:44):
show, you'll be alerted on your phone, on
your little pocket computer telling you, oh, there's
a new show.
That is not just for our show.
It's for hundreds of thousands of shows that
utilize the PodPing infrastructure developed by the boys
and girls at Podcasting 2.0. Last week,

(02:01:04):
we did a pretty in-depth explanation of
value for value.
I don't think we have to go over
that again, but the bottom line is, we
give you everything.
Unlike people who...
Oh, man, the ads on these podcasts.
Do you ever really listen to any podcasts
at length?
Yeah, I do.
I listen to Mike Baker.
I listen to the right guy, Byron Bryan.

(02:01:28):
Didn't they have ads?
Yeah.
Isn't that annoying?
Yeah.
The ad load, as we say in the
business, the ad load has just become outrageous.
It's like every 10 minutes.
It bothers me.
These are all...
I don't know what it is.
Maybe Leo Laporte had something to do with

(02:01:50):
it.
I'm not sure.
It all started off with they have to
be host read ads.
That's where the money is.
You get $40 CPM, i.e. $40 for
every 1,000 downloads.
I don't see it.
I think a professionally done ad, I've always
felt this way, that a professionally done ad
in-house by an ad agency that just

(02:02:12):
sells the product and does a great job
of it, would have been nothing but host
read ads.
That's what used to be.
Television discovered this.
In the early days of television, in the
50s, especially the 50s, they had all these,
like, What's My Line?
Because they still show these shows now on
some of these over-the-air sub-channels.
It's like, What's My Line?

(02:02:34):
Brought to you by Paul Moll.
Paul Moll's a great cigarette for blah, blah,
blah.
I know.
Jim, what do you have there?
I got some Paul Moll cigarettes.
It was all host read ads.
Then somebody decided, hey, these guys stink.
Why don't we do a real professional ad
and bring in a cowboy and do some
other stuff.
We can probably do a better job of
selling.
Then the host read ads on TV, even

(02:02:57):
early days of Johnny Carson, they used to
do them.
They all ended.
I'll tell you why that is.
Would you like to know why that is?
I'd like to know.
Because the host read ad has more value
because you know that the people who actually...
Remember, the metric in podcasts is downloads, which
is a scam because these apps all automatically

(02:03:20):
download and you're probably not listening to half
of the podcast in your podcast app.
It's a scam.
That's why just regular ad pre-rolls, mid
-rolls, and post-rolls, no one's listening.
You skip them.
The idea is that when the host reads
it, there's a more likelihood that people will

(02:03:42):
listen to that ad because it's the host
and the recall of these ads that are
host read is higher.
Says who?
Says the IAB, the Interactive Agency.
The IAB needs to figure it out.
The IAB needs to figure a lot of
stuff out.
What has happened is you've got the $40

(02:04:04):
CPM ad reads and then you have the
DAI.
What is a DIA?
Oh, DAI, Dynamic Ad Insertion, which means here
in Fredericksburg, if I start up a podcast
that is DAI, I get a Spanish ad
because they know me so well.

(02:04:25):
Okay, great.
I don't know what you're advertising me.
It just doesn't work.
But some people think it works because I
saw our spreadsheet for today and it seems
like some people are like, oh, I can
get these guys to read my ad.
So, we'll see about that.

(02:04:46):
Anyway, no, we don't do that.
We just thank everybody who supports us financially
and we do that for everybody $50 and
above and it seems to work out okay
most times.
It's an exciting lifestyle, but we chose it
and we're okay.
Exciting lifestyle.
The exciting lifestyle.
It's the new international lifestyle.
Value for value.

(02:05:06):
Didn't you know that's the new international lifestyle?
I think we're going to have to put
a word limit on these ads.
On these notes.
I don't care whether it's an ad or
not.
Yeah.
There's two on here that are just, they're
no good.
Well, what's your limit?
I have to, okay, well, I can make

(02:05:28):
the calculation.
I'll come up with an answer for the
next show.
I mean, it should really, because you know,
when you give it a limit, everybody's going
to fit it into that limit.
It's fine with me as long as the
limit's not like it is.
We're not talking a thousand words.
We had essays here.
Dostoevsky hasn't written as much as a couple

(02:05:48):
of these guys.
Another obscure reference from Curry and Dvorak, everybody.
Not that obscure.
We also accept value in the form of
time and talent.
There's a lot of that.
Our boots on the ground reports.
We have lawyers on staff, people, I'm telling
you.
We got lawyer producers doing stuff.

(02:06:10):
We do.
Who care for us.
Who care for the show.
Want to make the show better.
Want to help us.
Want to inform us.
And then we have artists.
Well, we used to have artists.
Now we just have AI prompt jockeys.
We have single, I mean, I'm just going
to allow AI songs for the end of
show mix now because you're right.
You're right.
I like the way you have to...
Okay, I'm not going to criticize you for

(02:06:32):
this.
You can.
Because that's not really a criticism.
You cave.
Maybe the word cave is not the right
word.
But you cave to the pressures that are
coming in from every...
You cave to modernity.
As things change and improve and progress.

(02:06:53):
You cave to it after resisting as much
as you can.
So that brings me to the question.
Why do you resist at all?
Resist we much.
And we much this be forgotten.
Well, I resist because I liked our artists.
We had Dutch masters.
They're all gone.
Every single one of them.

(02:07:14):
You're right.
The Dutch masters have all left.
They've all abandoned us.
And sadly, sadly a lot of this AI
art is just better.
It doesn't mean that I...
The execution is better.
What?
I think you're right.
Yeah, I mean...
But now it's just all AI art, which

(02:07:34):
is just too bad.
Once in a while someone will come in.
We got a long note from Riley.
Oh, you mean the deserter?
Deserter, you mean?
Or is the guy who eats desserts He
makes desserts.
He's got a lot of work.

(02:07:55):
He's an accountant, basically.
He's apologized.
He's counting his money.
Yes, he needs money.
He listens to the show and he wishes
he could do more.
But you know what?
The stuff that Riley does has basically been
jacked by AI.
Everybody can do Riley stuff now.
Think about it.

(02:08:15):
Not with the crude basic crude style.
No, that's true.
Alright.
So, Blue Acorn was the artwork that we
chose for the previous episode.
Yeah, I caved on this one pretty quickly.
No, you didn't.
Because you're like, I like the boobs.
This is great.
That's a great piece of art.

(02:08:37):
And I was so tired of fighting you
on this stuff.
I'm going to tell everyone how it really
went.
You speak with forked tongue.
I said, I like this piece.
I think this is a really good piece
of cheesecake.
And you said, oh, we just did cheesecake
two shows ago.
And I said, yeah.

(02:08:57):
That's the voice I used?
Yeah.
And so I said, yeah, we did.
But this piece is really, well, I like
the 1776 and we got to have that
into the art.
And then you had some other suggestions.
Okay, well, let's do something else.
And he said, no, no, no, we're doing
this.
And it's your fault.
You chose it.

(02:09:18):
I'm picking it.
You chose it.
It's on you.
It's on you.
It's on you.
You made a big fuss.
And here I am saying it's on you.
Thank you.
That's exactly how it went.
You said, I'm quitting the show if we
don't choose this art.
I never said that.
That's a lie.
That is a blatant lie.
Oh, man.

(02:09:38):
But looking back on it, I think it
was a good decision.
It was a good piece.
It was a good piece, yeah.
For 1776, it said America.
For a couple of reasons it was a
good piece.
Well, first of all, it just said America.
That's how I remember America.
That's right.
That's what it did.
It said America right there.
Right up front.

(02:09:59):
The...
Let me see.
Was there anything else that we discussed?
I don't think so.
But everything is AI art.
Everything.
Which means eventually it'll just be muck.
But I think you've complained so much about
the end of show mixes.
And not without merit.
Not without merit.
But it's hard to do.
And people get discouraged.

(02:10:20):
And then you hear some toe-tapping ditty
made by AI and I play it.
Like, that's great.
And arguably, it was good.
It was good.
But here's the thing with AI songs.
Everyone's like, this is a great song!
And it's just, you know, they've got some
Curry and Dvorak lyrics in there.
33.

(02:10:41):
Value for value.
And it's always three minutes long.
No.
End of show mixes.
Cut it down.
A minute.
Make it a minute.
I'll give them 110.
110.
110.
And it's not...
It has to be a good song.
It's not about just the lyrics.
Anybody can throw in some no-agenda lyrics

(02:11:02):
into AI and say, make me a song.
Like, wow, this is great!
No, it's not.
So, if you send me a true...
You've just done it.
You've got the AI song challenge, which will
lead right into the awards.
Yeah, okay.
You have to spit into the mic.
We have a Best Of coming up at

(02:11:24):
the end of July.
Just so you know.
You get a day off a Thursday.
And because I'm working on my exit strategy.
We've got to take some time off for
that.
The literal Best Of show, done by Circumference,
is our exit strategies.
It's a three-hour show.

(02:11:48):
It's a three-hour show.
I wonder if he has the sequined underwear.
I don't remember that one.
Yeah, the HEMA underwear.
You don't remember the HEMA underwear?
Yeah, HEMA, sure.
It was going to be embroidered.
I don't remember that part.
It could be.
Anyway, Blue Acorn, thank you very much.
You kind of nailed it.

(02:12:11):
It also had the luminance.
It had brightness.
It was still a little wishy-washy.
When I think back to 1976, and I
was in America for the Centennial, the Bicentennial,
I'm sorry.
Yeah.

(02:12:31):
You were for the Centennial.
I was there for the Bicentennial.
And that's pretty much what it was, 1976.
That's exactly what America was like back then.
So, for me, it was somewhat nostalgic.
But it was you who pressed on it,
and I just gave in.
Then we'd like to thank our executive and
associate executive producers, some of it taking a

(02:12:51):
little bit to the max here.
We'll have to edit on the fly, because
everyone thinks, well, this is my turn.
This is me.
They certainly have the right.
No, you're stealing from everybody else.
You're stealing time and attention.
But of course...
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, it's theft.
Stop it, people.

(02:13:13):
If you had more time, you could write
a shorter note.
That's just the fact.
Take your time and condense these things.
But you know what?
Take your note, put it in the chat,
GPT, and say, make this 200...
No, make this...
What was the old Twitter length?
144 characters.
Yeah, there you go.
That's it.
Moving spaces.

(02:13:35):
So, if you support...
And anybody can support us with any amount.
That's the beauty of value for value.
You don't have to subscribe to anything.
You don't have to get any program.
There's nothing like that.
Just whenever you say, you know, I think
I'll just help these guys out, because it
was valuable to me.
Then you send whatever that value is, whatever
value we delivered to your life, turn that
into a number, send it back.
That's all that it takes.

(02:13:56):
NoahJenTheDonations.com Just like Hollywood, though, we try
to spice things up a little bit, so
we give you an associate executive producer credit.
If you step up to that level, if
you can't, everybody can, but you know, it's
what it is.
$200 or above, and we'll read your note.
Then you can be an executive producer, $300
or above, and we'll read your note.
We may have to redact it here and
there.

(02:14:16):
And these are credits that are completely legit.
You can use them anywhere, including imdb.com.
That proves their legitimacy.
And we kick it off with another show
number donation.
So, the last show was 1776.
Sir Sonderager from St. Joseph, Missouri, 1776, and

(02:14:38):
throws in 67 cents for good measure, and
says, Good morning, fellas!
It's been minutes since my last donation.
Here's some treasure to make up for the
dry spell, and get me that Ph.D.
Yes, the Ph.D. in Media Deconstruction was
still ongoing until July 4th, so getting quick.
Keep up the good work.
No, no, no.
It's not being canceled on July 4th.
That's what you told me.

(02:15:00):
No, I said what's being canceled on July
4th is the 76th donation.
Oh, okay.
Got it.
No jingles!
We're going to cancel the Ph.D. promotion
at the drop of a hat.
Wow.
Threatening.
No jingles, but I'd like my de-douching

(02:15:21):
since I didn't get it on my first
donation.
You've been de-douched.
And that's Sir Sonderager of Bluffwoods.
Bluffwoods.
Bluffwoods.
Well, that takes us to Don...
Dan.
Oh, I'm already screwing it up.

(02:15:41):
Dan Medore?
Medore?
Yeah, Medore.
In Peoria, Arizona.
Peoria, Arizona.
Huh.
And it's a long note.
But it's on the spreadsheet.
At least it made it on.
This has been a long time coming.
I've been listening to this show since the
late 800s.
Back in the Middle Ages.
That's right.

(02:16:02):
After having been hit in the mouth by
my good friend Ken, please give me an
atomic de-douching.
What's an atomic de-douching?
Does that exist?
It's just louder.
No, you know, sometimes you gotta look if
there's no atomic de-douching.
As far as long-time douchebaggery, I like

(02:16:23):
instant gratification, so after listening to over 900
shows, I decided to become an instantite with
my donation.
Please accept 333.33 as my late fee.
Oh, that's cute.
That's good.
I'm first and foremost a proud American.
I'm also a French Acadian ancestry.

(02:16:43):
I'd like to be known as Circadian.
Oh, that's cute.
We have not seen that one yet.
Not yet.
Circadian of the rhythm section.
Thank you for keeping my amygdala right-sized
over these recent tumultuous years.
Um.

(02:17:04):
I wonder if he's a musician.
Yeah.
I lost my wife to stomach cancer just
before our 33rd wedding anniversary, and I only,
and my own lymphoma diagnosis was discovered just
after her passing.
It is now in remission.
Good.
So, for jingles, I'd like a double F
cancer, and because it's always a, puts a
smile on my face, can you play Give

(02:17:25):
It Up for Raven, which we also played.
Making a comeback.
Thank you again, and although I selfishly do
not want you to find an exit strategy,
I'm hoping we have a whole bunch of
ideas.
Yeah.
I'm hopeful you will go at least four
more years.
Also, for the round table, I welcome the

(02:17:46):
mead as a libation, but would pair it
with mouton-infused poutine.
Which, in other words, you'd make poutine with
mouton rothschild, which seems like an abomination.
Seems pricey.
Seems pricey.
Uh, thanks for all you do, Don Mador.
Dan Mador.
I don't know why I keep saying Don.

(02:18:06):
It just looks like Don for some reason.
It's Dan.
Circadian, or soon to be, of the rhythm
section.
P.S. I've attached my PayPal receipt for
the Don.
We trust you.
We're good to go.
You've got karma.

(02:18:27):
Give it up for Raven!
You've got karma.
Onward to Brian L.
Deerfield Beach, Florida.
$1,000.
Dear Adam and John, with a heartfelt ITM
energy, I extend my deepest thanks for your
courage.
You guys became an integral part of my

(02:18:48):
routine for the better part of a decade.
Whoo!
And I can't thank you enough for your
work during COVID.
I met the love of my life this
day seven years ago.
She grew into the best family medicine doctor
right before my eyes.
Not a pill pusher.
No Agenda was a lifeline for us during
her medical residency in Washington, D.C., where
we and eight other doctors wrote a systematic
review that was blackballed by every journal in

(02:19:10):
May of 2020 due to the out-of
-patent intervention we were recommending.
Huh.
I didn't want to believe the entire medical
system was captured, but it became painfully clear.
We avoided almost everything, including the White House
chop zone during the summer of love, where
buildings were burned and bird scooters would max
out at three miles per hour in high

(02:19:31):
-crime areas.
The No Agenda Show was our constant companion,
playing everywhere we went.
Your sharp insights and steadfast dedication brought us
clarity and comfort when we needed it most.
I am deeply grateful for both of your
courage and commitment, as well as that of
the entire Gitmo Nation.
This is a long overdue donation.
I will proudly frame this media deconstruction credential
on my wall.

(02:19:51):
A shout-out to John G., who hit
me in the mouth many years ago.
I'm going to need a de-douche.
But no jingles or karma.
I know my note is long, and John
is already annoyed.
Ah, yeah, there you go.
Please knight me, Sir Doc Nelson, Knight of
the Capital Region, and I'd like to request
John's favorite muscadine wine for the roundtable.

(02:20:12):
If it's out, I'll take the mead.
P.S. I missed the Zephyr report.
Thank you for your courage.
So which wine are we putting at the
roundtable?
Well, it's pronounced muscadine.
Well, thank you.
Thank you for that correction.
If they still have it, I would say,
uh, what's the name of this?
It's an operation in Arkansas.
It's the only quaffable muscadine I've ever had.

(02:20:35):
Well, what is it?
Some winery in Arkansas.
Arkansas.
I'll just ask.
Just say Arkansas muscadine.
That would do the trick.
Muscadine.
Okay.
Can we get some Arkansas muscadine?
Okay.
Muscadine.
Muscadine.
Muscadine.
Yeah, it rhymes with wine.

(02:20:56):
Yes, muscadine wine.
Got it.
Got it.
Um, it's a big giant grape.
Have you ever seen a muscadine grape?
It's like a plum.
It's not like in a bunch.
It's like a plum.
It's a giant, huge, horrible tasting plum.
The more you know.
Uh, let's go with Don.

(02:21:19):
Don.
Daniel.
Daniel Franco in Bronx.
The Bronx.
4445.
He sent a note.
I'm going to check.
I happen to have the note right here.
Um, in the morning, Currie and Dvorak.

(02:21:41):
The donation of 44445 is show number 4776.
Well, I came in late.
Thursday, June 26th.
It was referenced to the year 1774, 1775,
and 1776.
With this donation, my total is now 1
,000.
Thereby, finally making me eligible for knighthood in

(02:22:02):
the realm of no agenda.
My title will be, sir, I'm not a
spook.
Oh, no.
I'm a nada.
I'm a nada spook.
I'm a nada spook.
I'm a nada spook.
Because that's exactly what a spook would say.
I'm not a spook.
So, finally, spook money.
Well, is it really?
In the lands of Throgs Neck.

(02:22:24):
Throg.
Throgs Neck, New York.
You know where that is?
Yeah, sure.
Guildmaster.
He's the guildmaster of the Carpenters Guild 157
of the city of New York.
Dual class.
Soldier slash craftsman.
Well, soldier, maybe that's the spook part.
He's got a beautiful signature.

(02:22:45):
It's one of those celebrity looking things.
Daniel Franco.
Sir, I'm a nada spook.
I'm a nada spook.
So, he's on the list.
We go to Pete Arnold III in Becker,
Minnesota.
363.92 which may be 333.33 plus

(02:23:05):
fees.
He says, I'll keep this as brief as
possible.
Yeah.
Fail.
Very funny.
Adam, I'm the dude who asked you on
Twitter for the cutoff time for show 1776
and missed it anyway, despite your quick reply
on X.
Replying to me, by the way, is something
Elon Musk has yet to do, so that's

(02:23:26):
a thing you'd totally do better than him
in case you needed a boost.
Well, gee, thanks.
Adam's experience with door-knocking, storm-chasing roof
salesmen made me want to donate.
I am not one, though my company is
related, and that's the purpose for my note.
My company, Hire A Pro, helps homeowners GC
their own projects.
So, in the event of storm damage claim,
we guide the homeowner through the process and

(02:23:48):
keep the money that would otherwise be profit
for a roofing company, all while being by
the book and still within the rules of
insurance reimbursement to a degree where we actually
have insurance agents sending us business.
In the last three years, we've kept almost...
Well, that's interesting.
That's a good idea.
So, you do your own general contracting.
Yes, of course.
And they back you up.

(02:24:08):
Of course.
In the last three years, we've kept almost
half a million dollars in the hands of
Minnesota homeowners with $6,000 being the average.
That's a pretty good deal.
Roofing companies hate us, so I know we're
doing a good thing.
I'm praying this year I can finally cross
the full-time barrier so it can focus
on it 100%.
I have a lot of ideas I want
to implement, most of which I believe are
as disruptive as Uber or DoorDash has been

(02:24:29):
to their respective industries.
Working my ass off to have the capital
to develop and implement them.
That's an American right there.
That's an American.
The only jingle I wish at the end
of this is some Jobs Karma.
Thank you for all you do.
And Adam, if you end up needing a
new roof from a hail claim, hit me
up!
I can show you how the cake is
made.
And if anyone in Minnesota needs hail damage...
Well, you don't want hail damage, but if

(02:24:51):
you need hail damage repair, I guess...
Don't hire a roofer!
Hire a pro!
Visit us online at HireA.Pro. HireA.Pro.
It's so easy, even the people knocking your
door could do it.
And Jobs Karma.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs!
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.

(02:25:14):
Tanya's here.
Tanya Alexanian, which is an Armenian name, if
I'm not mistaken.
But she's in Dollar Des Armeaux in Quebec.
336.
Switcheroo for my boyfriend Jeffrey Sarkissian.

(02:25:34):
His birthday's July 6th, another Armenian.
Jingles, house-buying karma and health karma from
my girlfriend and her family.
This is truly the best podcast in the
universe.
You guys have kept me sane for at
least six years and provide a great source
of information and entertainment.
You guys are awesome!

(02:25:56):
Four more years.
You've got karma.
And then right up the road here in
Georgetown, Texas, 263.22 cents.
Associate Executive Producer credit goes to Thomas Anaya,
who has no note.
That means Thomas gets a double-up karma
today.
You've got double-up karma.

(02:26:22):
Pete Arnold III in Becker, Minnesota.
233.
Wait a minute.
233.70. This is Pete from Hire a
Pro again.
He's back!
Second donation on the same show.
Second note.
I wasn't joking when I said my ideas
were disruptive anyway.
I've got a group of good people.
The note wasn't long enough.

(02:26:43):
Anyway, I've got a group of good people
that deserve a boost to their station that
I would love to work with as we
grow a company together.
So one more jobs, karma.
Over here for them, Minnesota people.
Remember, Hire a Pro.
Thanks again, boys.
Pete.
That's interesting.
It's like a pre-roll and a post
-roll in one donation segment.

(02:27:04):
I support this idea.
Come back with a payoff.
That's a good idea.
I like it.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
Well, I'll take the one after this one
because you apparently have a note for Chris
Borman in Simsbury, Connecticut.

(02:27:26):
Yes.
You do Eric.
Eric Stottlemyre in Princeton, Minnesota.
Not a Minnesota people today.
Yeah, interesting.
Eric here with Easy Construction Solutions.
Another one.
I've been donating $4 a week since June

(02:27:47):
of 2023, a program I feel everyone should
be doing if they feel like they can't
afford a larger donation.
Please deduce.
You've been deduced.
I thought I'd celebrate being halfway to knighthood
with my first associate executive producership.
I am a general contractor in the Twin
Cities and service all of Minnesota and Wisconsin
with a special passion for cabin country.

(02:28:09):
Cabin country.
With the insane weather from Bemidji, Minnesota.
I've been to Bemidji.
Bemidji, Minnesota.
I have.
Bemidji.
They have a very small airport.
Bemidji, Minnesota.
It's a Baldwin, Wisconsin.
I thought instead of paying for annoying spam
text to homeowners or even more annoying door
knockers.
Sounds related.
I donate to the best podcast in the
universe.
Seems better to just put my info out

(02:28:30):
into the Noah Jenner universe and let the
good Lord take it from there.
Visit EasyRoofingMN.com Are these guys working together?
Yeah, I don't know.
EasyRoofingMN.com to send me a note.
Definitely an attack.
It's the attack of the Minnesotans.
If I can help you with the next
project anywhere in Minnesota or Wisconsin, the website

(02:28:52):
will get better.
I'm a far better contractor than web developer.
Finally, as a pastor's son, PK, Adam's recent
faith journey has been so encouraging and uplifting.
I'll leave you with my favorite verse, Galatians
6 9 a do not grow weary in
doing good.
Oh, 6 9 a do not grow weary
in doing good, which you two seem to
embody.

(02:29:13):
Eric Stottlemyre, future Sir Eric Keeper of the
Cabin Country.
Hi, brother.
Thank you.
Christian money.
Yes, right.
Okay, we got Chris Boorman in Simsbury, Connecticut,
216 54.
After five years of listening, it's time I

(02:29:35):
put my money where my mouth is and
donate.
We had a number of people today that
have been listening for years on end.
And that's fine.
You know, it is fine, but it's just
it just tells anybody out there does podcast.
It doesn't all come in when it should.
Just so you know, you got to what
was it?
Do not grow weary in doing good.

(02:29:56):
Grow weary because you're going to be waiting
for a long five years for the world
for Chris here.
I put my money where my mouth is
and donate.
So please deduce me.
You've been deduced.
What finally got me moving?
He asks, what finally got me moving?

(02:30:17):
Well, when I heard you worked with Chip
Ingram on their podcast.
Oh, how about that?
Chip was born on the 21st of June
1954.
So I hereby dubbed this 216.54 It's
a put Chip on the birthday list.
It's a Chip Ingram donation.
It's a Chip Ingram donation.

(02:30:39):
Put him on the list.
Check the Chip Ingram donation.
It's going to be a thing.
It's going to be a thing, he says.
It's going to be a thing.
When was his birthday?
The 21st?
The 21st of June, yeah.
Chip Ingram.
And there's another Christian donation because he says,
come on fellow Christian douche bags.

(02:30:59):
Who's with me?
I'm also requesting a generous supply of Job's
Karma.
God bless you both, says Chris.
Oh, thank you.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Chip Ingram donation.

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rejoiced the elephant.
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Mouse and elephant not included.
Creative.
I like it.
It's not bad.
Eli the Coffee Guy's up.
He's in Bensonville, Illinois.
He came in with 206.29. John, great
newsletter.

(02:32:03):
I thought I had cooking basmati rice down
until your recipe.
Yes, the last newsletter had the basmati rice
recipe, which I promised on the last show.
Oh, people love that.
Good.
Well, they need to learn how to cook
that rice.
It's not cooked the way they show you
on YouTube.

(02:32:24):
Okay.
You don't need to repeat it.
It's at tipoftheday.net.
Your recipe.
John's technique yields a much fluffier rice with
better texture.
I was inspired.
I had to spike the ball once in
a while with something decent.
Yeah.
I was inspired and I made some Persian
meatballs with ground buffalo from the farmer's market

(02:32:46):
in a pomegranate honey reduction.
Wow.
Wow.
Eli the Coffee Guy.
I got him.
I inspired him.
A little chef on the side.
I like that.
Served with a side of yogurt dill cucumbers.
Oh, nice.
It was marvelous.
Now, if you could just do me a
favor and recommend a good wine to pair
with the meal next time.

(02:33:07):
I have a wine tip for today's tip
of the day.
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(02:33:27):
Grab a bag of something delicious today.
Stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy.
And our final associate executive producer.
There she is once again.
The one, the only Linda Lupatkin from Lakewood,
Colorado who always wants Jarbs.
Jarbs.
Jarbs.
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Jarbs karma.
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(02:34:10):
Karma.
Well, dynamite everybody.
Thank you so much to our executive and
associate executive producers.
Long notes but entertaining nonetheless.
I have to say.
There's content in the donations.
This is the part that people sometimes miss.
Thank all those people.
Yeah, there's content in there.
You'd be surprised.
Thank you all.
And of course we'll be thanking people who

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Thank you again to these executive and associate
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Our formula is this.
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mouth.

(02:35:17):
So just as a short humorous moment.
So I don't know if you saw the
long press conference that Trump gave the other
day.
But which one's not long?
Yeah.
Which is a huge contrast to everybody else
who's ever been in office.
How can you miss it?
The quad screen is all Trump.
Yeah.

(02:35:37):
They're going to him live now.
MSNBC used to reject that.
We're not going to go live.
It's too entertaining.
They're crazy not to.
Exactly.
So I caught this little moment in the
middle of one of his press conference.
I thought was cute.
Oh yeah.

(02:35:58):
Is there any more information on the special
prosecutor?
So many Americans still have questions about the
2020 election.
And speaking of rogue judges, would you consider
appointing somebody at DOJ maybe to investigate the
judges that allowed for the political persecution of
you, your family and your supporters during the
Biden administration?
I love you.
Who are you?

(02:36:18):
Tom Power from Lindell TV.
Well, that's a very nice question.
And it's not a setup.
I have no idea who you are, but
I appreciate that question.
All I can say is we're not here
for that.
I hope so.
I hope they're doing a thing because that
election was rigged and stolen and we can't
allow that to happen.
You know, a lot of people tell me,
sir, you just won the greatest election in

(02:36:39):
the history of our country.
You won in numbers that won all seven
swing states, won the popular vote, won everything.
Sir, go on with your life.
And many people say that, good people, friends
of mine.
Then you have people that say that same
thing, go on with your life, but you
have to find out what happened because you

(02:36:59):
can't let that happen again.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is the...
It was a black girl, wasn't it?
He's not letting that one go.
Was this the black girl?
No, no, this is a...
I think her name is Cara.
And she works for Lindell TV.
Mike Lindell.
Yeah, he's got his own little network.
He's got quite the network.

(02:37:20):
And he and she was wearing...
And he said the girl in the red
dress and then he picked somebody in an
orange.
I think you're going to start seeing a
very colorful press grouping.
So they can get picked.
Pick me!
This is the...
It reminds me of the floor of the
stock exchanges where guys would get dressed up
in clown outfits so you could be easily

(02:37:41):
identified.
And I think you're going to start seeing
that because he was going with...
Oh, the red dress.
Red dress.
Yeah.
Not a setup.
Mike Lindell.
Lindell, by the way, who gets no credit
for the lawsuit that he went through.
You know, they tried to sue him for
like Dominion-level money.
One of those people over there.

(02:38:03):
And he was successful at fending it off.
But they...
They ruined his whole business.
And he still keeps on trucking.
Yeah.
He's a perseverance.
Yeah.
Him and the...
Who's the Overstock.com guy who used to
be the CEO?

(02:38:23):
I forget his name.
Oh, I forgot about him.
Oh, yeah.
He's still out there.
Patrick.
Patrick.
Yeah.
Those...
They got the goods.
They know.
We'll see if that ever happens.
RFK Jr. on the move once again.
And this, of course, is the new committee
who comes in for the vaccine policy.

(02:38:45):
I thought I'd kick it off with France
Vincatra.
This is great to hear.
You know, without evidence.
You know, discredited claims.
Falsely claims.
False claims, yeah.
This girl really does it all here in
this quick report.
RFK Jr., Robert F.
Kennedy Jr., Donald Trump's health secretary and long

(02:39:06):
-standing vaccine skeptic fired 17 experts on that
advisory panel recently.
He replaced them with eight new people, mostly
anti-vaxxers.
No, no.
That's a lie.
Of course it's a lie.
Even France 24 is apparently captured by the
big pharma.
Mostly anti-vaxxers.

(02:39:28):
On Thursday, they voted to walk back vaccine
recommendations for the flu, for the common flu,
and the reason being a common false argument
of anti-vaxxers that the flu vaccine has
an ingredient.
You're going to make me interrupt the whole
thing because she's going to say stuff like
false argument?

(02:39:48):
Oh yeah, false argument.
It's an argument, not a false argument.
This doesn't even make sense.
It's like a non-sequitur to say something
like that.
Guess what's so good about it?
Vaccine recommendations for the flu, for the common
flu, and the reason being a common false
argument of anti-vaxxers that the flu vaccine
has an ingredient that is linked to autism.

(02:40:10):
That's what the New York Times reports in
this article.
The decision signaling a, quote, powerful shift, it
says, in the way federal officials approach vaccines,
but also delivering the first blows to a
scientific process that has delivered effective and tested
vaccines to Americans for decades now.
That ingredient I mentioned is With complete immunity,

(02:40:34):
she forgot to mention that, with complete immunity
from lawsuits in case they hurt you.
By the way, just before I forget, I
don't say it enough on the show, that's
the key.
Get rid of that bull crap.
Every pill that they sell you, they sell
you a pill or a therapy of any

(02:40:55):
sort, they are subject to being sued for
bad medicine, or, you know, if it makes
you sick, it makes you ill, it kills
you.
Everybody, for everything else, you can be liable.
But for this one product and one product
only, they're indemnified?
How does that work?
Why?

(02:41:17):
Really?
Is the focus of this article here in
the Conversation in Australian Academic Research website, which
explains that it's called it's actually a preservative,
and it's called Thimerosal.
It's a mercury-based preservative used in some
drug products because it prevents contamination by killing

(02:41:38):
microbes.
But the website says it's important to note
that it's hardly ever used in flu vaccines
today.
The website also explaining that the argument that
vaccines cause autism because of this ingredient first
surfaced in 1998 when a report, now discredited
report, was published in the medical journal The

(02:41:59):
Lancet, claiming that several children had developed autism
following the flu shot.
Well, good job, girl.
Good job, good job.
Okay, fine.
So that's the European take.
CBS, as you can imagine, they have other
things to say.
A CDC vaccine advisory committee with new members,

(02:42:19):
handpicked by Health and Human Services Secretary Robert
F.
Kennedy Jr., met for the first time today.
The committee makes recommendations on the use and
scheduling of vaccines for children and adults.
As Elaine Quijano reports, several members of the
committee share Secretary Kennedy's skepticism about vaccines.
I thought they were anti-vaxxers.

(02:42:41):
What is this?
Skeptics?
That's no good.
You don't want skeptics on an advisory committee.
That doesn't make any sense.
Dr. Jennifer Duchamp has treated hundreds of RSV
cases in children at Mount Sinai Hospital in
New York City.
How severe can RSV symptoms be?
RSV can be extremely severe.
It can...
Do you notice what they're doing here?

(02:43:01):
They're taking a report about the vaccine commission
advisory committee, and they're turning it into an
ad for the RSV vaccine.
These people have no shame.
To send children to the ICUs, it can
cause them to need intubation, a breathing tube,
mechanical ventilation, constant breathing treatments.
Last fall and winter, during the height of

(02:43:23):
RSV season, Dr. Duchamp, who specializes in pediatric
infectious diseases, saw a drop in RSV hospitalizations
compared to previous years.
She says that's in part because of the
RSV immunization that's given to babies after they're
born.
Even though fewer infants were hospitalized for RSV,
it was still the leading cause of hospitalization

(02:43:44):
for that age group.
Preliminary estimates by the CDC show up to
23,000 people died from RSV last season.
I love it how everything else, they always
bring in other factors, but were these mothers,
did they have the COVID vaccine?
Is there anything else that was going on?
But there was a drop because of this.
I mean, that doesn't even say that it's

(02:44:04):
effective.
It says, well, there was a drop in
RSV cases because, you know, because we have
this RSV vaccine.
This is unbelievable.
By the way, the CBS is going to
fail with this idea of having these two
anchors.
That was John Dickerson and that other guy.
Because you can't, the olden days when you
had two anchors.
You can't have two dudes, man.

(02:44:26):
You can have two dudes.
Huntley and Brinkley were fine as two dudes.
Here's the problem.
If you start looking at it, it looks
like it's a couple of, like a couple
or a couple of brothers or something because
they finish each other's sentences.
This is not done right.
You can't have one guy start the sentence
and the other guy finish it.
It's like, so they go back and forth
and back and forth with the read.

(02:44:47):
So you got your read on the prompter
and they have half of it said by
one guy.
The other guy kicks in and starts talking
and the other guy kicks in and starts
talking.
And it's one presentation.
You have to go to one guy for
the presentation and go to the other guy
for another presentation.
You can't go back and forth and back
and forth.
They're running it like local, like the local
news or like entertainment.

(02:45:08):
They're running it like those twin sisters who
finish each other's sentences and talk exactly at
the same time.
It's terrible.
Rigorous traditional approach.
The committee that advises the CDC on vaccines
announced today it plans to examine the long
established childhood vaccination schedule, including whether infants should
receive an RSV immunization before eight months.

(02:45:31):
Also under consideration, whether hepatitis B shots are
needed for all newborns before leaving the hospital
and the timing and formulation for the measles,
mumps and rubella vaccine.
What's your reaction to what you're hearing out
of Washington and this panel right now?
It makes me concerned that again focusing on
the risks as opposed to the overall benefits

(02:45:54):
which have been proven over time.
This is great.
They're focusing on the risks.
Why would you focus on the risk?
That makes no sense.
That again, focusing on the risks as opposed
to the overall benefits which have been proven
over time.
The panel is expected to vote tomorrow on
whether to recommend that RSV immunization for infants

(02:46:17):
that we mentioned.
They're also scheduled to vote on whether to
recommend the flu vaccine and specifically they plan
to discuss a preservative that is no longer
widely used in infusions.
Widely used.
Thimerosal, which is mercury.
And we've got to bring in the doc
now.
Bring in LePouc.
LePouc the spook.
Last night we told you about a meeting

(02:46:37):
of Health Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy's newly selected vaccine advisory committee which includes
members who share his vaccine skepticism.
So this is the new talking point.
They share his vaccine skepticism.
Some members share his vaccine skepticism.
Isn't that what the American people deserve?

(02:46:59):
For them to be skeptics?
Is this a bad thing?
I ask you.
Yeah, it's a bad thing.
It's going to hurt the pharmaceutical bottom line.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Which includes members who share his vaccine skepticism.
Today that panel endorsed flu vaccinations for the
fall but only for shots that do not

(02:47:19):
include an ingredient which has been falsely linked
to autism.
Correspondent Dr. John LePouc asked a former acting
director of the CDC about the significance of
this week's meeting.
Until recently I think most of the public
didn't even know this committee existed.
We do have real world evidence.
This committee exists to provide advice and guidance

(02:47:42):
to the medical community so that we can
give the best advice to our patients and
they can make the best decisions about their
health and the health of their children.
Dr. Richard Besser is a pediatrician and the
president of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.
You were the acting CDC director and you
interacted with this committee.
How does what's happening now differ from what

(02:48:04):
happened in your day?
In the past, if there was a question
that this committee wanted to address, they would
put together a work group and it would
have two members of the ACIP of the
committee as well as the best scientists from
CDC.
They would spend months diving into the science
before they would bring it to the committee.
This issue today didn't go through that process

(02:48:24):
and that's really concerning.
Where does that leave us?
Where I think it leaves us is that
there will be other organizations that come forward
and make vaccine recommendations.
The Academy of Pediatrics, different infectious disease societies.
I think it's worth mentioning that the whole
reason RFK Jr. became interested in this is

(02:48:44):
because he was suing the...
He was suing companies over mercury in the
water and he tells this story many times.
And that there was this group of mothers
who kept showing up every single time, everywhere
he went.
They kept saying, please listen to us.
And they gave him this huge stack of
papers and research, scientific research, I guess, about

(02:49:08):
thimerosal and how it had hurt their children.
And he went, because this is what he
does.
He's a lawyer.
He goes through this stuff.
And he has the whole, I guess at
the time, the Children's Health Defense Network.
And he says, you know, this is a
real problem.
Or is it?
Let's ask the doctor.
The American College of Physicians, which has more
than 160,000 members, called this week's meeting

(02:49:31):
a dangerous and reckless path that will leave
our patients vulnerable to preventable illnesses.
If I'm a parent watching this, I might
think, well, no big deal.
I'm going to still be able to get
flu vaccine and I'd rather it not have
mercury.
What's the problem?
The whole process today suggests that there's something
unsafe about our vaccine system and there isn't.

(02:49:51):
There are still decisions to be made about
additional vaccines.
The committee is weighing changes to recommendations for
the measles and hepatitis B vaccines.
There is still no decision on this fall's
COVID shots.
When you're giving a kid hepatitis B vaccine,
it's a sexually transmitted disease.
A, but B, what does the guy just
say?

(02:50:11):
Remember back in the day when the swine
flu vaccine came out because they were lined
up to get the swine flu vaccine and
one of the batches of the swine flu
vaccine was very well documented, contained live swine
flu virus so they could spread it faster.
But there's no liability.
Don't worry about it.

(02:50:32):
You got caught with their pants down with
that vaccine that had live swine flu viruses
in it.
It was not a good product.
No.
So there's your update.
What was this?
I think you have a clip about this.
The syringe attacks in France?
Oh, this is one of these, I'd like

(02:50:53):
to have these stories that nobody covers.
It shows up.
Oh, it was covered.
It was covered.
I saw it covered.
Was it?
I didn't hear it except on this report.
Festival goers in France were targeted in more
than 100 syringe attacks over the weekend.
145 people were jabbed with syringes at different
venues across the country during Fête de la
Musique.
Teenage girls were among the people who ended

(02:51:15):
up in hospital.
Most noticed a mark on their body before
feeling ill and seeking medical help.
Officials have not yet said what was in
the syringes.
12 people have now been detained in relation
to the attacks.
So with hundreds of thousands of people set
to attend festivals in the UK this summer,
how can you protect yourself?
Generally, the advice is to make sure you're

(02:51:36):
aware of your surroundings.
If you see something suspicious, then report it
to staff or the police, and don't leave
any possessions or drinks unattended.
Do we know what was in there yet?
No, there's never been any follow-up on
this story.
I think they suppressed the story because they
don't want to give people ideas.
I mean, if you're going to have these

(02:51:56):
cities, San Francisco being one of them, and
now New York's going to be one of
them, and it's very popular up in Seattle
and Portland, places like that, where you have
free syringes being given away so drug users
can take their drugs in their little place
and have a little play.
Oh, I'm going to take the drugs in
a safe place.
And so there's free syringes flying all over

(02:52:17):
the place, left in the street as they're
all over the place.
It's terrible.
You're going to have something like this could
become an epidemic.
Yeah, it's not good.
It's not good.
I just wonder why we haven't, they're still
awaiting toxology reports, toxicology reports.
We're never going to hear anything.
Yeah, you're probably right.

(02:52:38):
All right, what do we got here?
Well, just a little boots on the ground
from one of our producers about the passkeys
we were talking about.
Oh yes, okay.
He says there's one additional little thing.
Passwords, so the passkey is, you know, you
don't actually know the passkey, you have it
stored on your device or on your computer
or on your phone.

(02:53:00):
He says passwords are actually protected under the
Fifth Amendment since you can't be forced to
reveal what you know.
Passkeys work differently.
The user doesn't actually know the passkey.
It's stored in access with biometrics or a
device pin.
He says that way passkeys generally do not
get the same legal protection against compelled use.

(02:53:23):
I think that's a very astute observation.
Ah, dynamite.
Yeah, that is a very good...
Stay with the old passwords, people.
Yeah, I think that you think you should,
yeah, because they could say, hey, just look
here, and your phone unlocks with your face,
which I've never understood as a good idea.
It wasn't a bad idea.

(02:53:43):
I've never understood that.
Why would you do that?
Why would you do that?
Oh, it's easy.
Well, okay.
Sure.
Well, everything.
No password, that's easy.
That's the easiest.
Even when you're dead, you just hold the
phone up to the dead person's face.
Boom, opens.
Good to go.
Thumbprint.
Venezuelans in Chicago.

(02:54:04):
PBS again is promoting the state of affairs,
anything that kind of pushes back on Trump's
agenda because he didn't give them their 1
% of their money.
They're going to pull the funds.
So we're going to see a lot of
pro-Pride flag, pro-immigration kinds of stories.

(02:54:24):
They're going to still have Brooks and Capehart
agreeing with each other.
It's going to be just downhill.
Chuck Hernandez is chair of the Chicago Republican
Party.
There's not really an appetite to support those
who come here, whether it be illegally or
under a temporary program that was put in
by Biden.
He says the Trump administration has a right

(02:54:46):
to enact its immigration policies.
He says the arrivals from Venezuela have strained
Chicago's resources.
We're having right now in Chicago a real
crunch financially and then the amounts of Chicago
taxpayer money going towards many of these groups,
it's money that could be used towards citizens

(02:55:07):
that should not be going towards these people
that are here on a temporary type of
basis.
How do you respond to people who say
T is for temporary?
The issue here is not that they're dealing
with tanks, they're dealing with human beings.
And when a human being is afraid to
go back, and that really what the situation

(02:55:27):
is here that people has been told that
Venezuela is getting better.
Venezuela is not getting better.
Venezuela is getting worse.
I sympathize with them, but this was the
fault of the Biden administration by giving people
false hope that you can come here.
For their part, Venezuelans we spoke with said

(02:55:48):
they feel a sense of deja vu.
All over again.
Yes, so they're painting, this is part of
a long report, and they're have the cold
-hearted Republican saying we can't afford this, it's
just that simple.
And then you have all these sympathetic voices
that go on about, you know, it's just
people, it's people.

(02:56:10):
And this is hard to fight.
This is the strategy you use when you
want to slam something.
You use people.
You abuse people.
Sympathy, sympathy.
In my country, there is no legal process.
The United States was the first country to
guarantee those freedoms, and now living through this

(02:56:31):
situation, it feels the same as what happened
in Venezuela, because they are not respecting the
due process of the people.
In the meantime, many will continue to stay
in the shadows, afraid of what lurks outside
their front door.
For the PBS NewsHour, I'm Fred de Sam
Lazaro in Chicago.

(02:56:52):
So here's the question I have.
They're in Venezuela.
They put them into Chicago.
What about Mexico, or Costa Rica, or Brazil,
or Colombia, or Ecuador?
This is like the Palestinians, nobody wants to
take them?
I guess.
So we have to take them because nobody

(02:57:14):
else will take them?
Now you're sounding like a Republican.
Well, I sound like a Republican, but it's
like they speak Spanish.
They're in a continent except for Brazil, which
speaks Portuguese, but they're basically in a, and
you can make that transition, it's not that
difficult, but they're in an entire continent of

(02:57:35):
Spanish speakers all the way up through Central
America and Mexico, and we have to take
them?
It just doesn't make sense to me.
No person is illegal.
A person cannot be illegal.
What's wrong with you?
Do you not love people?
You are a horrible man.
Which brings you to a Tick Clock Talk.

(02:57:55):
Tick Clock Talk.
Alright, Tick Tock Clip time.
Stolen Land Girl.
I don't want to hear another white person
say the word illegal for the rest of
my goddamn life.
We are living on stolen land.
Our ancestors forcibly and violently seized this land
from the indigenous peoples who were living here
for generations before we ever showed up.

(02:58:18):
We do not get to call them illegal.
We don't own the fucking planet.
Nobody does.
We are evolved monkeys with opposable thumbs who
use them to write little monkey scribbles on
a slice of tree, and we call it
a birth certificate with our little monkey sounds.
All of it is made up.
None of it is real, and it doesn't

(02:58:38):
fucking matter, and it's certainly not a valid
reason to rip a terrified screaming child away
from his weeping mother, and I am tired
of being made to feel like I'm crazy
for being angry about this.
Capitalism is just narcissism as an economic system.
Imperialism is just narcissism as a foreign policy.

(02:59:00):
If the lion can't claim the safari for
himself and call the elephant illegal, then neither
the fuck can we!
Oh, that was interesting.
If the lion can't...
Let me just...
I want to hear that thing.
That was interesting.
Let me hear that again.
Capitalism is just narcissism as an economic system.
Imperialism is just narcissism as a foreign policy.

(02:59:21):
If the lion can't claim the safari for
himself and call the elephant illegal, then neither
the fuck can we!
This is...
Again, this makes me just very sad, because
she is very wound up about this.
And I'm sure that she is not doing
anything about it herself except screaming on TikTok.

(02:59:42):
Which doesn't...
Run for city council.
Run for government.
Do something, you do-nothing phony.
That's what I call her.
She's a phony.
I don't feel sorry for her.
She's a big phony.
Like you said, become politically active if you
feel so strong about this stuff.
Instead of yacking at TikTok.

(03:00:02):
She needs a hug.
All these people need hugs and love.
Give me another.
Give me another.
This one I end up cutting off because
she just goes on too much.
But this is mom on the Z.
This is mom Z girl op.
Mom?
What does that mean?
Mom Z girl op?
You don't even know anymore.
I'm going to start this video by saying

(03:00:24):
that this is not the usual content I
normally share on my page.
I had easily the most unsettling experience I've
ever had as a mother this morning and
I wanted to come here and share about
it.
I'm actually feeling really shaken up inside but
I'm doing my best not to transcribe.
Now you remember.
This is the way that it works.

(03:00:44):
I have found...
This is why I cut it off because
I'm going to explain what it is.
I have found at least 10 of these.
Exactly the same.
It's exactly the same.
I'm a mother and I was leaving the
store and somebody came up to me and
says, can you help me?
Can I hold your baby while you move
my car because I can't get in the

(03:01:05):
seat?
There's always a million reasons that somebody comes
up to me, holds the baby.
There's always a van involved.
There's a van parked here and then the
woman, the mother says, well, let's go inside
the store and we'll talk to a manager.
Maybe they can help you and then they
go inside the store and then the woman
disappears and gets into a van and drives

(03:01:25):
off because it was a scam.
Yeah.
There is at least 10 of these videos
out there and this is just one example
and I don't know.
That's why I have Z.
It's an op.
Okay.
But what kind of an op is this?
Well, let's listen.
I'm going to start this video by saying
that this is not the usual content I
normally share on my page.
I had easily the most unsettling experience I've

(03:01:47):
ever had as a mother this morning and
I wanted to come here and share about
it.
I'm actually feeling really shaken up inside, but
I'm doing my best not to translate that
over camera because I'm not at all narcissistic.
It's not at all about me and about
how I feel and how shaken up I
am that I usually don't share this on
my page, but please look at me while
I talk about me and my feelings.
I really don't want to spread fear to
anybody.

(03:02:07):
I just simply want to inform other mothers
that this happened to me today and this
is unfortunately happening and I saw a video
maybe two months ago of a mom who
had an almost identical experience and her sharing
her experience, I believe helped me know how
to navigate this in the best and most
productive way possible.
So, here goes.

(03:02:27):
I went to Kroger around 9 a.m.
this morning, broad daylight and I got out
of my car with my daughter and a
woman approached me.
She said that she had parked her car
too close to the car next to it
and was unable to get back into her
car to back it out.
She asked me if I would back her
car up for her and offered multiple times
to hold my daughter while I backed her

(03:02:48):
car up for her.
When I looked to her car, I noticed
her car was parked in one space and
with about maybe a foot space in between
there was an old beat-up van parked
on the other side of the driver seat
of her car.
I was very firm with her and said,
you will not be holding my child, but
I offered to go inside and Oh yeah,

(03:03:09):
okay.
So, it's a child rousting gig of some
sort but why is this video cropping up?
It's in slightly different forms, but it's basically
the same story.
Well, I can tell you what this is.
This happened to a really good friend of
mine's brother, grandfather, uncle, but it's true.
That's what this is.

(03:03:30):
This is just people, like, I've got, you
know, I usually have nothing to say on
my page but I came here to talk
about this on my page.
Yeah, you nailed it.
I nailed it!
That's exactly what it is.
You nailed it.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

(03:03:54):
Narcissism is a very, very dangerous drug.
A lot of people are addicted to it
and TikTok is the dealer!
And now we will thank our donor.
Remember, we still have end of the show
mixes coming up.
We've got John's tip of the day, apparently
a wine tip so this is one you
want to stay tuned for.
We have a meet-up report.
We've got lots of awards to hand out
today, PhDs, we've got nights, we've got title

(03:04:16):
changes, and a wedding, or a forthcoming nuptials
we'll celebrate.
But first, John's going to thank our supporters
for episode 1777, $50 and above.
Wow, I don't know anything about the wedding.
Yeah.
Dame Dani's up.
She's in Mount Shasta, California, beautiful area.

(03:04:37):
$177 and 71 cents.
Which is 1777.
1777.
Plus a penny for the jar.
We'll put it in there, thank you.
Heather Smith in Portland, Oregon, 10535.
This is for her husband, Steve Vitorali, I
guess, of Ozark, Kansas.

(03:04:58):
Please de-douche him.
And if you can remember to give him
some jobs karma at the end, she'd appreciate
it.
Sure, sure.
Kelly Spongberg, I haven't heard from her for
a while.
I think that's a he, actually.
Uh-oh.
It could be.

(03:05:18):
He or she is in Rocky Mountain House,
Alberta.
It's $100.
Travel karma for Dame Andrea Garnier.
Or Andrea.
Andrea.
Andrea.
Uh, David You

(03:05:46):
know Zawislak.
Anyway, whoever this David is, he's in Des
Plaines, Illinois, 9356.
Which is 1776 nickels plus fees.
Oh, that's a good one.
I like that.
Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina.
He's the Archduke of Loon, lover of America,

(03:06:08):
and lover of melon's boobs.
8008.
John Farran in Lake Placid, Florida.
7877.
And he could use a de-douching.
General karma at the end, too.
7877 from Todd Webster in Fort Worth, Texas.

(03:06:32):
Todd and Cheryl Dorfel in Big Pine Key,
Florida.
They are the mom and dad of the
Dorfelverse.
Oh, well, thank you.
Thank you very much.
Darius Walker in Charleston, West Virginia.
7877.
Anonymous in San Rafael, California.

(03:06:55):
7877.
No need to read my name on the
show.
And we didn't.
Megan Klein in Santa Barbara, California.
76.
May...
Oh, she came in again.
Megan Klein, switcheroo this time.
Also 76, and she's doing a switcheroo for

(03:07:16):
her smokin' hot dude, Vitas the Destroyah.
Yeah.
Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada.
76, ITM gentlemen.
Jorge Alvarez in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida.
7171.
John Alberini in Parts Unknown, 7026.

(03:07:38):
Garrett Hollander in Farmington, Arkansas.
66.66. Chad Hewitt in Folsom, California.
6640, which is 66 books and 40 authors.
There's a reference there, you knew what it
was, I forgot already.
Jeffrey Blake in York, Maine.
It's the Bible.

(03:07:58):
The Bible, right, okay.
You forgot already.
Jeffrey Blake in York, Maine, 66.
Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana.
6502, the chip donation.
The rarest of all.
Jamie Buell in Vista, California.
6006, Chris Kincaid in Tyler, Texas.

(03:08:23):
5809.
Sir Kyle in Bertram, Texas.
5776.
Sir Kyle and the Three Donkeys.
Call out Mindy, his amazing girlfriend.
She's a douchebag, he said.
Douchebag!
Douchebag!
Alright Mindy, there you go.

(03:08:45):
Hey Mindy, how you doing?
Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina.
5272.
Commodore Crummy, which is a great name.
El Cajon, 5272.
Now we go to Sergeant Postal from Miami
Lakes, Florida.
5033.
Eduardo Jimenez in Mission, British Columbia.

(03:09:08):
5033.
Happy birthday to his smoking-hot wife, Gina.
Richard Gardner.
The rest of these are 50s.
Not too many.
Gonna run short here.
Richard Gardner.
Steven Grab in Lansdale, Pennsylvania.

(03:09:28):
Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.
Benjamin Ryan in Alliance, Ohio.
Bobby Brown in Bluegrass, Iowa.
Leaf Thompson in Meridian, Idaho.
Then there's a big black line.
Yeah, what is that about?
I have no idea.
I've never seen that before.

(03:09:48):
But that's where it ends.
It ends.
That's the end.
Oh, the big black line's the end.
Oh, it's so short.
I thought there was like the...
Oh, that's terrible.
Horrible thing.
Big black line.
Well, thank you very much to these donors.
$50 and above.
We do not mention under $50 for reasons
of anonymity.
We do have a note here and a

(03:10:09):
check from Southeastern Turf Grass Supply.
David Wicker, sir, by his grace.
And this was for episode 1776.
He sent us double nickels on the dime.
1776 is such a great accomplishment.
And he thanks us for our courage.
And he also sent along a hat.
A hat for Willie to wear.
Willie, my chess partner.

(03:10:30):
And I got a note from Sir Andy
of Terrigal Beach.
He said, Adam, I don't know if this
is allowed, but yesterday I asked Dame Kylie
of the Double D Cups to marry me
and she said yes!
Oh, that's it.
Congratulations.
We're very happy.
Of course we'll mention that.
Are you kidding me?
It is always allowed.
When two no-agenda people get engaged and

(03:10:52):
they enter into that sacred covenant, yes, you
better believe it.
It's allowed.
Thank you all so much.
And, of course, thanking our executive and associate
executive producers for this episode as well.
You can support us, and we encourage you
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It's your birthday, birthday on No Agenda Well,

(03:11:12):
first and foremost, we must say happy birthday
to Chip Ingram who celebrated his birthday on
the 21st.
M.
Andrew Jones celebrated yesterday Dirty Jersey Horns his
birthday today on the 29th.
Hey, Dirty Jersey Horns.
Sir J.R.E. celebrates on the 4th
of July.
Tanya Alexian wishes her boyfriend Jeffrey Sarkissian a
happy one on the 6th.

(03:11:33):
And Eduardo Jimenez happy birthday to his smoking
hot wife, Gina.
And we say happy birthday from everybody here
at the Best Podcast in the Universe.
It's your birthday, yeah Title changes Turn and
face the slays Title changes Don't wanna be
a douchebag Yeah, and this is from Sir

(03:11:55):
Boojahadeen who is a layaway Baron He started
his 3333 monthly donations back in 2020 along
with several larger one-time donations and he
has now reached the title of Baron.
And so he's changing his title to Sir
Boojahadeen Baron of the Freedom Fighters And if
available, he would like to take Rutherford County,

(03:12:17):
Tennessee as his protectorate.
And I believe that is possible.
He also says he has to bring up
an issue with us He's a devoted listener
to No Agenda as well as Dave Smith
and Scott Horton And he's Horton, here's a
who He's like Don't be so mean, please,
don't be so mean.
We're not, we're just who we are.

(03:12:38):
And we are who we are It's who
we are, can't help it We have a
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We have one, two, three PhDs who will
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(03:12:58):
the PhDs Give us the name you want
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Congratulations on your PhD in Media Deconstruction We
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(03:13:21):
jobs, karma as he is gainfully employed, working
70 hours a week as a normality Wow,
that's something right there.
He's a lonely millennial who works too much,
so alongside the jobs throw in some relationship
karma.
Well, we certainly hope for that for you.
And in fact we need to throw in
jobs and regular karma for everybody as well

(03:13:42):
Jobs, jobs, jobs Jobs and jobs, let's vote
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Karma Also Phil Coburn, who says I hope
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If it pleases the Knowage and Appearance Committee,
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And he is from Warimu, Australia.
How about that?
So we do have a couple of these
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blade, then we'll get this Ooh, it's the
one with that cool handle, I like that
one Alright, Sir JRE Phil Coburn Brian L,

(03:14:29):
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(03:14:51):
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(03:16:15):
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Leo Bravo, there's a meetup taking place, oh
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the Bison Hike meetup, I hope everyone made

(03:16:37):
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(03:16:58):
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on the 19th and Albany, California on the

(03:17:20):
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(03:17:40):
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(03:18:02):
You wanna be where everybody Always like a
party Always like a party Alright, we have
end of show ISOs which you always like
to choose as kind of audience participation because
people just send me stuff and I'm like,
I'll try to see what John thinks about
it People are sending you stuff?
Oh, that's how I get them, I never
look for something myself Never They send me

(03:18:25):
ISOs Yeah, that's why mine are so bad
Let's see what bad ones you got today
They did dumps, they call them dumps Big
massive dumps The biggest load that we've seen
It was a combo, it's too long, but
it was nice It's the one we designed
I know, but he stitched it together So
that's it, so yours is gonna win by
default I have two Oh you have two,

(03:18:47):
I only saw one I'm sorry, you have
an ISO and you have an ISP Okay
Do you want me to play the ISO
or the ISP?
Let's start with the ISO I love you
President Trump, yes Alright, now play the IPS
Give this podcast a Pulitzer Okay, that's done
That is the one, there's no doubt about

(03:19:09):
it And we go from that straight into
John's tip of the day Great advice from
you and me Just the tip with JCB
And sometimes Adam Created by Dana Brunetti Normally
I don't I do wine tips now on
occasion I don't do as many from Costco

(03:19:30):
because Except for those Bordeaux boxes Because there's
not The distribution is sketchy But once in
a while they have a cheap wine That
everybody has, I think, in most of the
stores And I'm recommending one Okay I was
actually stunned Stunned, I tell you By the
quality of this product It's a California wine

(03:19:51):
And wait, this is available at Costco?
Yeah, I was actually stunned Stunned and more
stunned Before you even tell us So, how
did you discover this?
I mean, you saw a bottle I'm at
Costco That looks like crap, but I'll try
it anyway Well, it goes like this Here's

(03:20:14):
my methodology For buying Rando wines Rando wines?
Yeah, well, I said, going by, and I'm
looking I say, well, that label's screwy That
looks like, in fact, it looks like An
old-fashioned Geyser Peak label It just has
a different look For a Kirkland wine It's
a Kirkland wine, I'm looking Oh, it's $9
.90 In the pocket, baby That's right in

(03:20:40):
your price range Let me look at it
Eh, you know, that's a cheap California Cabernet
I'm thinking, this can't be any good But
it's only $9, let me check it out
It's a stunner Really?
I mean, I was taken aback This is
the Kirkland Cabernet Sauvignon from Alexander Valley Which

(03:21:02):
is a great little Cabernet-growing area Alexander
Valley 2022 Oh, that's a good year for
Cabernet It's a good year for a lot
of things And Bordeaux is a really good
year And so this wine For $9.90
or whatever it was It's ridiculously It's structured
Beautifully Normally for that kind of money, California

(03:21:24):
wines Are flabby, they're not balanced Correctly, they
don't have the right flavors The profiles are
off.
This is a stunner I'm telling you Maybe
I got just a good bottle, it's possible
But I would recommend Give this a shot
Wow, well I would say maybe you should
try Aldi From time to time, see if
you can find something there I mean, you're
just Finding all the good stuff At all

(03:21:46):
the craziest places Yes Yes, he said Hey,
now that's a very valuable tip And there's
many more to be found at Tip of
the Day or knowagentofun.com That is John's
Tip of the Day Great advice for you
and me Just a tip with JCB And

(03:22:08):
sometimes Adam Created by Dana Brunetti That's right,
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without Dana Brunetti We would just be Poor,
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broadcast day here on KnowAgenda Thank you for
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you keep the stream running Or to trollroom
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Episode 175 Love those kids People like them

(03:22:52):
a lot They also do that show live
So catch them live when you can End
of show makes his classic From Brian Rudder
and brand new From Melo D We look
forward to that And we will be back
on Thursday Hoping that President Trump Does something
crazy, so y'all tune in And that's
likely Until then Yes it is Coming to

(03:23:16):
you from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country Where they wrap Jesus in flags That
is just sacrilegious In the morning everybody, I'm
Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley I'm
John C.
Dvorak Please join us on Thursday And remember
us at Knowagendadonations.com Until then adios mofos

(03:24:50):
David Duke Well, I disavow Luplux plan So
I disavow it again It's condemned totally Doesn't
condemn the darn thing.
I disavowed again.
Review, done.

(03:25:22):
They're not gonna be fighting each other, they've
had it.
They've had a big fight, like two kids
in a school yard, you know, they fight
for about two, three minutes.

(03:26:14):
Through flattery and praise.
Isn't it a bit demeaning?
And doesn't it make you look weak?
And doesn't it make you look weak?
No, I don't think so.
I think it's a bit of a question
of taste.
But I think he's a good friend.
And when it comes to making more investments.

(03:26:44):
The best podcast in the universe.
Adios, mofo.
Dvorak.org.
Slash N-A.
Give this podcast a Pulitzer.

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