1783 - "Dadgum" - No Agenda Show

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Look what you got there.
I see what you're doing.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Sunday, July 20th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Keep On Asian
Media assassination episode 1783.
This is no agenda.
Posing for the Kiss Cam and broadcasting live
from the heart of the Texas Hill Country
here in FEMA region number 6.

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In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're trying to
bring back the term daddy-o.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
I was going to try and slip it
in during the show, but now you've given
it away.
I thought it was a good idea.
Bring back daddy-o.
Hey, daddy-o.

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Daddy-o.
Because it's a vibe, man.
It's a vibe.
Oh, so we got a note from some
guy explaining vibe.
Well, it's a vibe.
Not just vibe.
It's a vibe.
You got to say it right.
It's a vibe.
I'm not saying it at all.
It's interesting, I guess.
I don't think it has legs.

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Oh, what do you mean?
This is all over the place.
It's already, it's in.
I've never heard it except on the show.
Well, I don't expect people to say it
at Costco.
Hey, man, that wine, it's a vibe.
It's a vibe, man.
That wine's a vibe.

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They don't say it at the Chevron station.
Well, hey, how was your meet-up?
You had the get John out of the
house meet-up.
It wasn't as good as it usually is,
but it was okay.
They're generous, at least this group.
I have the meet-up stuff that I'll
read during the donation segment.
So they were generous, but it wasn't good?

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No, they were generous, but the numbers were
like 20 people, maybe.
Oh, well, my meet-up was exactly six,
including me.
How many?
Six.
Okay, well, this brings us to a point
of discussion then.
Well, okay, but remind me to tell you
about the meet-up because it was a
special kind of meet-up.
So go ahead with your point of discussion.

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A special kind of meet-up, but was
it some sort of cabal, gay cabal thing
or something like that?
Yeah, John, that's exactly right.
That makes so much sense.
A gay cabal in Fredericksburg, Texas.
Yeah, that's what's going on.
It could be.
No, this was organized by Evert Bopp.
Oh, this is your Dutch guy.

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This is the Dutch cabal.
Yes, but you know what this Dutch cabal
is?
So Evert, who— Spooks.
No.
He has a nonprofit called Disaster Tech Lab,
DisasterTechLab.org, and he goes all over the
world.
Whenever there's a disaster, he brings in Wi

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-Fi networks.
So he brings in—he has all this donated
gear.
And so, of course, he was here for
the floods in Kerr County, and he was
in Hunt and Centerpoint.
Then he sets up these huge mesh networks
so people can communicate.
That's cool.
It's very cool.
And he's been doing it for 15 years.

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He said, well, it's the first time I've
been here.
And since I was just down the road,
I figured I might as well do a
meet-up.
And Texas Slim came.
Texas Slim, he was taking $10,000 worth
of ground beef down to the Mercy Chefs
to feed all of the volunteers and first
responders.
And let's see, we had Richard from Austin.

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He's a coder.
He came up.
And, of course, we had Willie, Willie, my
chess partner.
He showed up as well.
So Mimi has a friend that's something like
this, a woman who goes to disaster zones,
and she's a specialist.
She has a kind of a—I guess a
horde or a group of cadaver dogs.

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Oh, and boy, we need them.
They only had one dog, which was not
enough.
Yeah, this woman, she should have known about
this, that idea, because she'd be down there.
She has these cadaver dogs, and I guess
they're like three German shepherds or whatever dog
it is, and they're just experts at this.
Yeah, well, Afert was telling us some of

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the horror stories, which I won't repeat, of
what people were finding.
It was not great.
Yeah, it was gross.
Yeah, very gross.
But it was a nice meetup.
And so I said, so who funds this?
He said, well, we have individual donors.
We have some government support, but not very

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much.
He gets all of his gear donated except
for one company.
So all the Wi-Fi, and he leaves
it behind.
So it's donated.
He leaves it behind.
He gets new gear.
Guess which company doesn't donate and charges full
retail price for everything he does?

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Starlink.
Yes, exactly.
He says, hey, can I get a discount?
No.
Best price.
You pay now.
Starlink.
Starlink.
No deals for the nonprofit.
The guy going down there in the disaster
area.
And then he said, you know, I think
Starlink's taking a beating on the technology anyway.
They can't afford to give it away.

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I'm sure they are.
And he said, you know, and I said,
so what's it like on the ground?
He said, oh, the government people, they're just
in the way.
They suck.
And he was, you know, he says in
Texas.
Well, that's a shocker.
Yeah, I know.
He says, you guys in Texas are well
organized.
And he even told the story about how
he was invited to go to the White
House.

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He said, so I walk in, and it's
basically a huge Zoom call with all of
the regional FEMA managers.
And they're all, and they're listening to his
story.
And they go like, yeah, yeah, we really
want to hear how we can innovate.
What can we do to innovate?
He's like, well, why don't you deploy the
stuff that works today?
The stuff that I'm doing, do that.
And of course, the government bozos, I don't

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want to say they're all bozos.
None of them are here.
Well, no, they want to buy stuff.
Oh, you've got to innovate.
We've got to do something.
We've got to budget.
We've got to spend some money.
No, you've got to spend the taxpayers' money.
You've got to spend the money.
Yeah.
He says it was really disappointing.
He's been all over.
Very interesting guy.
So anyway, that was just a fun meetup.
Now, you wanted to discuss meetups briefly?

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Yeah, Mimi's noticing that there's been a fall
off in the number of meetups that people
are happening.
And it made it that the Albany meetup
was interesting because Steve had talked, I talked
to Steve.
Who's the reason?
Rickalston Crazy Steve.
Rickalston Steve.
And he said there's a bunch of RSVPs
that didn't show up.
There's a couple of people I expected to

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see.
They didn't show up.
It was gloomy, though.
I mean, we have a Bay Area July.
It was gloomy.
It's cold.
It was gloomy.
And gloomy.
But Mimi's noticing that the huge drop off
in meetups.
Interesting.
The next one's on the 25th that she,

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I think, documents coming up.
But is she saying this is across the
board meetups?
Yes, yes.
Interesting.
It's like worldwide phenomenon.
Oh, it's a global thing.
Oh, no.
And I'm thinking that this is, you know,
there's a mood.
Oh, no.
It's a mood.
OK.
Yes.
There's a mood.
But it's a worldwide depression.

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I'm blaming Trump.
Oh, do tell.
Well, I don't know why I'm blaming him.
But why not?
As good a guy as any to blame
for.
Stop it.
I mean, you blame the president is the
guy who sets some sort of a standard
and whatever.
And I'm not blaming him the way the
Midas touch might.
But for everything, you know, if the guy

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has a bad bowel movement, he blames Trump.
I mean, that's a terrible podcast.
It's a great podcast.
But it's noticeable.
Yeah.
Interesting.
And that's why your number doesn't surprise me
at all.
I don't care.
You're there.

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There's enough.
You have enough locals.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Parker came.
Parker.
He's local.
Parker.
No, that number should have been 40.
No.
We only had like two show advance warning.
So, you know, it takes a lot of.
It takes a lot of promotion to get
people to come out.

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And Richard was a first timer.
Relating this to my experience, the lack of
the people at RCP.
Steve, I don't even know why you bothered
doing that at the Mallard.
But he did that anyway.
And they didn't show up.
And the people that I expect to see
didn't show up.
And Mimi's noticeable.
She notices a worldwide basis.
Well, there's a couple of things that are

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happening.
One is, you know, meetups used to be
very sparse.
And then it would be like, oh, okay.
There's a meetup.
I'm going to go.
Because it would be once every six months
or something.
Now people are doing them often.
So they're repeats.
And, you know, people have other things to
do.

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You're going to think what you're going to
go toward is meetup burnout.
Meetup fatigue.
Meetup fatigue.
I like burnout better.
Okay.
So that could be part of it.
Also, there's, you know, what is permeating throughout
all of culture right now is these meetups,
they all put together chat groups.
Okay.

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So they have chat groups.
They have telegram channels.
And they're all doing all their thing there.
And so they really have nothing to discuss
when they show up in person.
And they're a little bit wary because now
they know all of these, how these people
really think.
Because, of course, what is the number one
topic on every single no agenda group?

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But Epstein.
Yeah, of course.
Mossad, blackmail.
Yeah.
Jews.
I mean.
Jews.
Yeah.
So I think people are also just like,
I don't feel like talking about this stuff
anymore.
Well, I think that's a rationalization.
And I'll tell you why I say that.

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It's a good rationalization.
I think it's, you know, reasonable.
It reminds me of stock market analysis.
You know, this market goes up for this
reason.
The market goes down for the same reason.
How does that make sense?
Somebody sent me a video today of this
red light district, a long film from this
month.
The red light district in Thailand.

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A walkthrough.
Well, wait a minute.
Where in Thailand?
It's a rather big place.
I've been to a couple.
The red light district.
It's got a name.
I can look it up.
Patpong?
Patpong?
No, it's not that.
I don't know what it is.
Because they have them all over the place.
No, but the big one.
Patpong.
You can look it up.
It's Patpong.

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It's Pattaya.
Oh, Pattaya.
Whatever.
Pattaya is a tourist destination.
Yeah, and it's a red light district.
Oh, okay.
And it's a tourist destination.
You're right.
It's notorious.
You can just Google it.
P-A-T-T-A-Y-A.
So this guy took a video and he's
walking through the area.
There's, I'd say, thousands of hookers and hundreds

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and hundreds of nightclubs.
I've seen areas like this around the world.
And it's just like loaded with nightclubs and
hookers.
Nobody.
Oh, it's empty?
Nobody's there.
And he's walking.
This guy is some British guy.
And he's walking through the area.
It takes a long film.
It's like, I got it up here.

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It's 30 minutes walking around.
And there's a few motorcycles go by or
motor scooters.
Now, are these the girls that have the
number badges on?
They have all kinds of different.
Some of them have signs.
There's thousands of them.
But the point is, the point I'm making
here is not about the girls or how

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they sell themselves, but it's the fact that
the place was empty.
So hooker meetups are also down.
So I'm thinking that there's a downturn.
There's always these discussions about people aren't coupling
up anymore.
Oh, no, no, you nailed it.
You nailed it.
Everybody's sitting at home talking to their chat

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bot.
They don't have anything left to say.
They've already told Chad GPT about it and
Annie.
They're all talked out.
It's a possibility.
Yeah.
But it's a worldwide phenomenon.
So it's happening on our meetups where this

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is not good.
Well, it's not like we can do anything
about it.
We can bitch and moan.
That's what we do.
It doesn't help.
Also, people.
It makes me feel better.
People are afraid to go.
You go to a Coldplay concert and all
of a sudden you're on the kiss cam
and you're divorced.
The best story of the week.
That was really interesting because that dominated social

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media with memes.
Well, there's a good reason for it because
it pointed out the hypocrisy of the HR
departments.
The lack of, you know, you can't mingle
in the office, even though some people think
it's a good idea.
But it's against the rules and the basic

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hypocrisy.
And then the embarrassment, which would like a
lot of almost everybody says the same thing.
There was a Coldplay concert.
If they hadn't freaked out, which is embarrassing
enough to go to.
But if they hadn't freaked out.
Yeah.
The girl, by the way, is the one
who panicked immediately.
And then he the guy ditched himself.

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Did you see that some baseball games had
a Coldplay cam and then they focus?
No, I didn't.
They focus in on people and then they'd
immediately dive down and hide.
You know, even the players, they were on
the Coldplay cam.
They ran back into the dugout.
Oh, that's funny.
It was good.
I think it's also, you know, we live

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in such a broken world where everybody either
knows what it's like to get caught cheating,
is currently cheating or has thought about cheating.
I think it was very relatable.
Well, it was pretty funny.
And then to be caught cheating with your
HR lady at a Coldplay concert is like
a triple threat.
It's the worst thing you can imagine.

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You can't beat it.
It can't get much worse.
It really was, really was.
Well, then we have the story that everybody
in M5M, remember, we are a media deconstruction
podcast.
We have to talk about this because they
were losing their ever loving minds over it.

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And everybody, of course, related it immediately to
the president due to a number of confluences
and things happening with media.
And this is the cancellation of The Colbert
Show.
Breaking news, CBS is canceling The Late Show
with Stephen Colbert.
Colbert just making the shocking announcement at his

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show taping.
Shocking.
Now, it's unclear why the show is canceled,
but it comes after Colbert spoke out.
I just got to listen to it because
that's the whole point of playing these clips
at all.
His parent company, Paramount's $16 million settlement with
Trump over the editing of a 60 Minutes
interview.
In fact, here's what Colbert said just a

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few days ago.
Now, I believe this kind of complicated financial
settlement with a sitting government official has a
technical name in legal circles.
It's big fat bribe because this all comes
as Paramount's owners are trying to get the
Trump administration to approve the sale of our
network to a new owner, Skydance.

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So, they bring on their own media deconstructionist,
the one and only Brian Seltzer-Water to
discuss what's really going on.
And now, hearing that that show is canceled,
Brian Stelter's out front.
I love the cadence.
And now, hearing that that show is canceled.
Oh, no, it's canceled.
And now, hearing that that show is canceled,

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I mean, Brian, what more are you lying
about what is frankly a stunning announcement?
What?
She said, I mean, Brian.
Oh, she did that too.
This is a new thing.
Well, when they really don't.
I think you say, I mean, Brian.
I mean, I mean, like, come on.
It's like, I mean, like, this is no

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good.
I mean, Brian, what more are you learning
about what is frankly a stunning announcement?
When we were talking about it, just found
out about it here.
I said, wait, what?
What?
What just happened?
It really doesn't make any sense from the
normal business logic of television goes like this.
Stephen Colbert is the highest rated program in

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late night television.
He beats his competitors.
He's been going at it for 10 years.
And frankly, he's been on a hot streak
lately.
So by the business logic of television, normally
he would be in a very safe spot.
However, CBS says this is a financial decision
given the difficulties with the entire late night
sector.
And there is some truth to that explanation.

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I reported a couple of years ago about
the late, late show ending with James Corden
because it wasn't profitable anymore.
So there there might be some some rationale
to this CBS announcement.
But almost everybody upon hearing about this is
connecting it to the paramount settlement from everybody.
Because, as you said, it was just two
weeks ago that President Trump struck a deal

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with the parent of CBS, that $60 million
settlement.
Of course, Trump later said that there were
other terms on top of the 16 million.
He referenced getting public service announcements from CBS,
for example.
And all this comes as one owner of
CBS, Sherry Redstone, is about to hand off
to a new owner, David Elliston.
Excuse me, David Ellison and his company Skydance

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Media.
There have been speculation raging online for the
last two weeks about whether Skydance was going
to try to push Colbert out.
In fact, this had been such a hot
topic that Colbert came back from vacation on
Monday and he made jokes about it.
He said he had a new mustache and
so the new owners wouldn't be able to
find him.
So on Monday, Colbert was joking about possibly
being in danger.
On Wednesday, he found out his show was

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being canceled.
Today, he announced it.
And this all takes effect next May.
And so he does have one more season.
But this means one of the staunchest Trump
critics on television will be leaving.
And, you know, you did the exact same
thing that I did.
First of all, we heard 2.1 million

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people watching, 200 people on staff.
And I don't think those are shared resources.
You know, you got the studio and everything.
It's every single day.
And, you know, I did the same thing.
I'm like, what's in the demo?
And the demo is, it was like, I
think you had 200,000 in the newsletter.
I think I came up with 231,000.

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I mean, we have more people in the
demo on this podcast.
Yeah.
And we're losing.
Corey, this is, I thought I wrote up
a fairly good analysis in the newsletter.
People should be a subscriber.
I don't get it that they don't.
But the mention is they lost, they've been
losing $40 million a year.

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Yeah.
On this show.
There's your issue right there.
And there's your issue.
And the numbers suck.
If he gets 2 million viewers, Gutfeld gets
at least three.
And he only has 60 million households and
they have 300 million households.
It doesn't make any sense.
Gutfeld's got 30 people.
He's got 200.

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Even that's too much, 30 people.
Probably.
For that show.
Someone to polish his shoes.
I mean, what do you do with 200
people?
I have no idea what you do with
200 people.
And then it all traces back to Johnny
Carson.
I have his numbers.
He typically was doing 17 million a show,
up to 45 million a show, as opposed

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to 2 million.
It's untenable.
It's stupid.
And they're making a big fuss.
By the way, I do have Colbert's total.
Yeah, we have that.
We got that.
The whole thing?
Yeah.
Yeah, I have the whole thing.
I clipped it way down because there was
too much hootin' and aside.
I took the asides out and I took

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the hoots out.
Okay, can I just say one thing?
You can say whatever you want.
Say two things.
I'll just say one thing, if that's okay.
Late Night lost their entire audience during the
writer's strike.
Everybody got on TikTok at night.
It was the height of TikTok.

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And they never came back.
And why would they?
It's much more entertaining than to hear him
just gripe and moan and watch the two
segments with a film clip.
The format is old.
It's beat.
As I point out in the essay, the
format was started by Steve Allen in 1954

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and has not changed since.
That's 70 years of the same old, same
old.
No wonder it's dead.
Yeah, and it's all pre-interview questions.
So, hey, you had a funny thing happen
to you this week.
Tell me about that.
The pre-interview questions ruined the show.
Yes, which is exactly why Adam and John

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do not talk to each other outside of
the show.
Yeah, and we wouldn't anyway.
No, for obvious reasons.
All right, I'll play the whole opening thing
then.
This is Colbert's.
I think it was Monday he opened with
this bitching about this.
And I want to point out one other
thing.
This idea that this was the $60 million

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deal where they caved to Trump's lawsuit was
part of to get Sherry Redstone, her, you
know, her Skydance.
They had to do this to get the
Skydance thing to go through because the administration
would squash it otherwise.
The administration, the Trump administration, was never going

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to quash this.
This was Larry Ellison's son that runs Skydance.
Larry Ellison's a huge Trump supporter.
If he wants to do a merger with
Paramount, the Trump administration is not going to
stop it whether Colbert's there or not.
Yeah, and I'll give him this, though.

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If you're polishing up the product to sell
it, you probably want to get rid of
the $40 million a year loss.
Loser, yeah.
It's like, hey, we'll take care of Colbert.
We'll get rid of all the other losing
things.
We'll take care of you.
That's what you do.
Here's the opening monologue polished up.
My parent corporation, Paramount, paid Donald Trump a

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$16 million settlement over his 60 Minutes lawsuit.
As someone who has always been a proud
employee of this network, I'm offended.
And I don't know if anything will ever
repair my trust in this company.
But just taking a stab at it, I'd
say $16 million would help.
This settlement is for a nuisance lawsuit Trump
filed claiming that 60 Minutes deceptively edited their

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interview with then-candidate Kamala Harris last fall.
Paramount knows they could have easily fought it
because, in their own words, the lawsuit was
completely without merit.
Unlike the payoffs from ABC and Twitter, Paramount's
settlement did not include an apology.
Instead, that's good.
Instead, the corporation released a statement where they
said, you may take our money, but you

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will never take our dignity.
You may, however, purchase our dignity for the
low, low price of $16 million.
We need the cash.
Now, I believe this kind of complicated financial
settlement with a sitting government official has a
technical name in legal circles.
It's Big Fat Bribe.
Because this all comes as Paramount's owners are
trying to get the Trump administration to approve

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the sale of our network to a new
owner, Skydance.
And some of the TV typers out there
are blogging that once Skydance gets CBS, the
new owner's desire to please Trump could put
pressure on late night host and frequent Trump
critic, Stephen Colbert.
I guarantee you he already knew it was

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happening when he did that.
He already knew 90 percent certainty that his
show was good, that the late night show,
the franchise was going to go away.
He had nothing to lose.
Well, maybe not.
But like somebody pointed out in one of
the other shows is that if you're me,

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you can say whatever you want about the
networks, because Letterman used to go after NBC
and Carson always.
All the time.
As long as you're me, if you're making
tons of money.
Who cares?
Say whatever you want.
Who cares?
But if you're losing 40 million.
That's a problem.
So then we get the out.

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I actually had one of the.
Oh, by the way, the other number was
it's 100 million dollars a year to produce
that show.
That's a lot of money.
We.
So there was a conversation with the podcasting
2.0 group.
That group, we only discuss podcasting stuff.

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And in fact, I discourage it and remind
people like, you know, can you take your
your political stuff somewhere else?
Because the political opinions vary widely and we
get along pretty well.
But then.
So one guy, he says.
He said, you know, he posted the post,
the notice of.
Oh, this is this is insane.

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It's like Colbert.
Trump critic Colbert show getting canceled.
And then.
So the follow up is odd.
Jon Stewart, another critic of rapist felon Trump.
Will they silence?
Will they silence Kimmel next?
And so I pop in.
I said, hey, look, look, 200 people.
2.1 million viewers do the math.

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And then it comes back.
And then it's like, why are you defending
rapist pedophile Trump?
I'm like, you know what?
I'm out.
Why don't you hit me up on the
blue sky, bro?
And I'll talk to you over there.
It's just it's like, what is wrong with
you?
Don't you understand basic numbers?
And here's Chris Murphy, Democrat representative from Connecticut,

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on his very important Instagram.
So I want to tell you why the
cancellation of Stephen Colbert show matters so much.
We are on the precipice of entering a
censorship state in which Donald Trump is using
the powers of the federal government in order
to erase criticism from the airwaves.

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What's happening at CBS right now is bone
chilling.
Paramount is trying to get a merger approved,
and they need that merger to be approved
by the Trump administration.
And so in a variety of different ways,
Paramount is providing monetary and political favors to

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Donald Trump.
First, they settled a totally bogus lawsuit that
they would have won in a walk in
court that was filed against them by Trump.
They essentially just paid him 16 million dollars
personally.
Paramount went to 60 Minutes, their flagship news
program, and told them to stop criticizing Donald
Trump so much.
Why?
Because they need this merger.

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That's not what they said from what I
heard.
And then finally, they have now canceled Stephen
Colbert's show, knowing that Stephen Colbert was a
nightly thorn in the side of Donald Trump.
This is all clearly designed to get their
merger approved so that their millionaire and billionaire
owners and investors who are already filthy rich

(28:07):
can become even more filthy rich.
Oh, blame it on the rich.
This is what happens when these massive corporations
control the flow of information.
At the same time that you have an
administration that is shameless about using the official
powers given to them by the Constitution and
by statute in order to compel political loyalty

(28:30):
from the owners of those media companies.
This is a really, really dangerous moment.
Stephen Colbert didn't get thrown off the air
because he wasn't doing well.
He was the highest rated show on TV
in late night.
He was canceled very likely because Paramount and
its owners are trying to get rich off

(28:51):
of this merger.
And Donald Trump has made it clear to
them and everybody else in the media space
that if you want any favors from me,
then you have to silence my critics on
your platforms.
So this is what I love so much
about it because it folds into the whole
PBS and PR defunding.
Is here's a guy who probably gets more

(29:12):
traction from this one post, including 800000 plus
people hearing on the no agenda show.
It was like, well, they're controlling the flow
of information, man.
Oh, really?
It's like, no, I think CBS was pretty
smart to do this now because it came
at the right moment where, you know, Trump,

(29:32):
man, he wants to shut down in the
flow of information to NPR and PBS.
Relations between Donald Trump and the press have
been tense since he first became president.
I'm not going to give you a question.
You are fake news.
In mandate number two, the U.S. President
has multiplied lawsuits against news organizations criticizing their

(29:56):
coverage.
In the latest case, he's opposing Rupert Murdoch
and The Wall Street Journal for publishing a
story about his friendship with child sex offender
and alleged sex trafficker of underage girls, Jeffrey
Epstein.
Trump says the story is fake and deliberately
damaging.

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Publisher is standing by it, refusing to give
in to pressure.
In some of the previous cases, news companies
chose to settle like ABC and Paramount, who
own CBS media watchdog Reporters Without Borders, says
the U.S. President has a clear strategy
to weaken the press similar to ones used

(30:39):
in other countries.
This includes the defunding of public media, smearing
journalists and taking measures against reporters who use
words he does not approve of.
U.S. news agency AP has been banned
from White House briefings since they refused to
change the name of the Gulf of Mexico.

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At a time where we've never had more
media in the in all of human civilization,
where everybody has a podcast, everybody's on TikTok,
everybody's on Instagram, where the president is being
is being dragged by his own fans of
MAGA.
He's not controlling any flow of information.

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You dopes.
But, oh, of course, NPR defunding.
What will we do in an emergency in
Republican states?
Public radio and television stations will start to
lose some of their funding in October after
Congress approved a rare rescissions package requested by
President Donald Trump that claws back one point
one billion dollars previously allocated for public media.

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That sum is all of the federal funding
the Corporation for Public Broadcasting was set to
receive over the next two years.
That money is supposed to help fund fifteen
hundred locally owned and operated stations in addition
to NPR and PBS.
But experts who study the local news landscape
caution the move could have dire effects.
Franklin runs the local news initiative at the

(32:07):
Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University.
He says somewhere between 40 and 80 local
public radio stations could be forced to shut
down across the country, leaving the communities they
serve with limited access to critical information.
We are not going to waver in our
mission, which is to deliver independent local journalism
that we think is really important for our

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democracy.
Democracy is more insulated from the cuts than
rural stations.
It'll lose six percent of its funding and
it's stepping up membership drives, hoping it won't
have to limit community events to make up
the difference.
Other stations across the state are anticipating budget
cuts up to 50 percent.
A gap listeners or sponsors may not be
able to bridge.

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This is a huge disruption and the public
media that you knew yesterday will not be
the public media that you know tomorrow.
Heather Norman is president of the Illinois Public
Broadcasting Council.
She says some communities may start to see
consolidation with less local coverage.
And she notes there are families who may
not have access to cable or streaming services
who depend on the work of public media.

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When we were in Springfield for our legislative
day, person after person came up to our
table and said, my child learned by watching
PBS.
Now it became a trend.
So there's never been a better time in
history in the past 20 years to start

(33:34):
a hyper local podcast.
This hole in the media landscape is so
big you could swing a 747 around in
it.
Well, you need something because all the local
newspapers have gone.
It's all gone or it's tarred.
Like we have one paper here, the Fredericksburg
Standard Radio Flyer Post Gazette.

(33:54):
It's all just left, left, left.
It's no good.
It's left wing.
If it's even that good, some of them
don't even are even left or right wing.
They're nothing.
They don't even do any reporting.
But there was some good some text.
One of the Texas guys, I don't didn't
get a clip of it going on about
this NPR local.
All important.

(34:15):
It is one of your boys down there
said, you know, I was around the area
when the flood started to hit.
And it was all the local stations that
were talking about it.
NPR was playing some crap from Washington, D
.C. They played nothing.
They gave us no warnings.
They did.
They were so unlocal.
It's ridiculous.

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And an NPR themselves say it was one
percent of their budget.
Why is anybody making a fuss about this?
Because Donald Trump is trying to stop the
flow of information that is important to our
democracy.
Vote Democrat.
NPR themselves said it's one percent.
I know.
Why are you fighting me, bro?

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I'm fighting you, bro.
Don't fight me, bro.
That's not the vibe on this show.
The mood.
The mood.
Yes.
By the way, since you brought up Larry
Ellison, I was shocked and appalled by a
statement he made.
I guess we missed this.

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There must have been some kind of conference
or some when they launched Stargate.
And that was it.
Five hundred billion dollars were put into this
thing.
There is real building going on in West
Texas.
But I don't know about five hundred billion.
Listen to what Larry Ellison touts as the
benefits of AI for our society, which now

(35:40):
he is partially funding.
Listen to this.
The police will be on their best behavior
because we're constantly recording, watching and recording everything
that's going on.
Citizens will be on their best behavior because
we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going
on.

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And it's unimpeachable.
The cars have cameras on them.
I think we have a squad car here
someplace.
But those kind of applications using AI.
We can use AI.
And we're using AI to monitor the video.
So if that altercation had occurred in Memphis,

(36:21):
the chief of police would be immediately notified.
It's not people that are looking at those
cameras.
It's AI that's looking at the cameras.
No, no, no.
You can't do this.
It would be like a shooting.
That's going to be immediately, that's going to
be an event that's immediately, an alarm is
going to go off.
And we're going to have supervision.

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In other words, every police officer is going
to be supervised at all times.
And the supervision will, and if there's a
problem, AI will report the problem and report
it to the appropriate person.
Whether it's the sheriff or the chief or
whomever, we need to take control of the
situation.

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Same thing, we have drones.
If there's something going on in a shopping
center, a drone goes out there way faster
than a police car.
There's no reason for, by the way, high
-speed chases.
You shouldn't have high-speed chases between cars.
You just have a drone follow the car.
I mean, it's very simple.
And then a new generation of autonomous drones.
And then have the drone shoot the car

(37:23):
with a cruise missile.
What kind of dystopian world does Larry Ellison?
Go fly a drone over Ellison's house.
This is a guy who doesn't talk about
not leaving the house.
For one thing, Oakland, let's just look at
Oakland.

(37:44):
With or without AI, there'll be a robbery
on Hagenberger.
It takes 45 minutes to an hour for
the cops to show up if they show
up.
A lot of times the Oakland merchants always
say they never show up.
They don't show up.
Or the fact that Oakland is the only
place that had an In-N-Out Burger
closed in the entire state of California because

(38:05):
there's so much crime in and around the
In-N-Out Burger, which is at the
intersection of the freeway.
And Hagenberger Road, a major, major intersection.
And now the CEO is leaving California.
And the CEO, yes, I don't have a
clip of her going on about it.
She's the CEO of, and she's moving the

(38:26):
entire corporate headquarters to Tennessee.
That's right.
To one of the little towns there, Franklin,
to be specific.
She's moving to Franklin, Tennessee, and they're going
to use their, and they may start moving
In-N-Out Burgers further east.
And she says it's almost impossible to do
business in California.
That's Gavin Newsom and the Democrats.

(38:47):
They don't want you doing business here.
They want it to be a communist state.
Yes, and you want to stay there.
It's amazing.
It's a cycle.
It's going to be dynamite when these guys
get, when the cycle goes the other way.
It's going to go crazy.
Will we outlive the cycle is the question.
Well, it's a real problem to think about
that.
But OK, I'm hanging in there.
It gives me hope.

(39:09):
Hope and change is coming, everybody.
Hope and change.
And so, yeah, so Ellison, I don't know
what he's thinking.
This is nuts.
None of this is work.
None of this is even close to being
accurate the way police work.
It's just dumb.
But OK, this is a nice thought, I
guess.
Not even a nice thought.
It's kind of sinister.
It's very sinister.

(39:30):
Oh, is it to have a drone?
Yeah, what's going to happen is you live
in a nice community, you know, a gated
community with your multimillion-dollar home, and you'll
have a private police force.
Everybody else gets Larry Ellison's drone following them.
Well, I'm still waiting for the day.
Well, for one thing, I'm still waiting for
two things to happen, which will eventually in

(39:52):
the future.
One is real drone warfare where one million
drones attack something.
That would be kind of hard to fend
off no matter what you do.
And then the other one is like you're
sitting in the office here, you know, I'm
under my house, and then I look out
the window, and there's a drone just hovering
outside the window looking at me.

(40:13):
Yeah.
That's coming too.
That happens all the time now.
You can go on your favorite app there,
TikTok, and you can see people shooting at
drones all the time.
Some yokel is flying his drone around the
neighborhood, and people start shooting at it, which,
by the way, I would do too.
Yeah, that's what you want to do.

(40:34):
It's good like skeet shooting.
Get a shotgun, put birdshot in it because
it'll have a spray.
It'll give you maybe a three-foot area.
Yeah, like a garbage can size.
Well, eventually it gets out there, way out
there, and you should be able to take
out a drone at distance.
Anyway, I'm just appalled, appalled at Ellison.

(41:00):
I'm not.
He might as well just be, you know,
sitting there talking to himself with a drool
cup.
Well, I caught it, so there it is.
There it is.
There's the drone.

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Yeah, there's the drone.
So let's play these analysis clips because you
did bring up the part where they're talking
about Trump and his connection to Epstein.
Oh, yeah.
And specifically.
They also, which the media cannot stop talking
about.
No, it's because they think they got something

(41:41):
on him.
They think something's happening, but I want to
play.
This is a little.
This is kind of was kind of programming
for PBS's ran yesterday.
They talked to a New York Times guy
about the connection between Trump and Epstein, and
it brings up a point of information that
I think is interesting.
President Trump said today he wants all Jeffrey

(42:03):
Epstein grand jury testimony made public as he
continues to spar with parts of his political
base over his handling of the matter.
Before we continue, isn't the whole point of
a grand jury that that's never made public
or am I mistaken on that?
It can be made public, but you're right.
No, when you go into a grand jury,

(42:24):
it's a secret proceeding.
Yes.
It's a secret court.
It's like a star chamber.
And if I'm also not mistaken, the grand
jury is where you go to indict the
ham sandwich.
Yeah, because a grand jury, you can basically

(42:44):
get any kind of testimony out there that
you want.
And then the grand jury will go.
Yeah, we should probably pick that guy up
off the street.
That's basically what I'm just making sure I
understand the grand jury because it sounds so
official.
Grand jury badge.
By the way, you get a badge.

(43:05):
You get a grand jury badge and you
can use it.
You can flash it at cops when it
comes to getting pulled over for something.
You'll have the grand jury badge.
Yeah.
Grand jury badge in their wallet.
Is that like a PBA card?
A PBA card.
Professional Bowlers Association.
You don't have to be a bowler.
Police Benevolence Association.
No, I think it's more like those little

(43:27):
courtesy badges, which I have a couple.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like a PBA card.
It's the same thing.
Yeah.
The courtesy badge you can carry in your
wallet.
Could I get a little courtesy from you,
Ossifer?
And the way it works, because I've only
used it once and I was in, I
was in Santa Barbara area or someplace and

(43:49):
I had my highlights on and I didn't
turn them off.
And a good cop goes by, he swings
around and pulls me over.
And so I said, driver license.
So I opened my wallet in clear view
of his flashlight.
It was at night, obviously.
And he sees the courtesy badges.
They're little bitty things.
They're only about.
Like a lapel badge, basically.

(44:11):
Yeah, basically.
But it's, you know, carry them around.
And he says, what's that?
And I said, what's that in your mouth?
And he said, that's a, I was, I
did some work for, and I just discussed
the, where the badge came from.
And he said, he recognized it.
He's just, yeah, well, hey, you had your

(44:31):
highlights on, don't do it again.
And he gets my thing back.
So I had a PBA card, which is,
it's like a business card and with an
embossed little shield on it.
And I got pulled over in Montclair, New
Jersey.
And so back there, they're very good with
this kind of scam.

(44:51):
Yes.
And officer Bob, officer Bob badge, number three,
Montclair police.
He, he sees the car.
He says, oh, oh, well, I can give
you some courtesy.
Adam, that's your name?
Adam.
Oh yeah.
You're on MTV, right?
Hey, you want to come to the morgue
one day?
It's really cool.
Wow.
That's a lot better than we get out
in the West coast.

(45:12):
Hey man, you should come to the morgue.
You should see the morgue, man.
It's really cool.
We can go at 11 PM.
Like, hey, officer Bob, that's great.
Thanks.
I don't think I want to go to
the morgue.
Wow.
That's a fabulous invite.
All right, here we go.
At the same time, Mr. Trump acknowledged that
even releasing all that testimony might not be
enough for the troublemakers and radical left lunatics.

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Earlier, Mr. Trump said that supporters pressing him
to release more Epstein material are weaklings who
have fallen for a democratic hoax.
With some conservative critics saying now that the
president is part of a coverup, attention is
turning to the relationship between the two men.
New York Times White House correspondent Luke Broadwater
has written about what's known about the Trump

(45:55):
-Epstein relationship.
Luke, how far back do these two men
go?
Well, we know they've known each other since
at least the late 1980s or 1990 when
Jeffrey Epstein purchased a property in Palm Beach.
Shortly thereafter, the two men became friendly.

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They ran in the same circles.
They were both from New York.
They were both rich.
They both had a love for nightlife and
for attending flashy parties and being surrounded by
women.
And so for about 15 years, as best
we can tell, they were pretty tight.
Trump flew on Epstein's project, Palm Beach in

(46:40):
New York, at least seven times.
And it isn't until 2004 when they really
have a falling out, when they become rivals
over a real estate property in Florida.
They both wanted the same oceanfront mansion.
And Donald Trump and Epstein sort of become
rivals or even enemies after that.

(47:01):
And after that break, after the break over
that real estate, did they ever get back
together or was that it?
Not as best we can tell.
There's no public record of them interacting after
about 2004.
It was my understanding that Epstein was cozying

(47:22):
up to the teenage girls at Mar-a
-Lago and he kicked them out.
What happened to that part of the story?
That part of the story is would seem
to be something of a Trump creation.
Oh, it's not true?
Well, I don't know whether it's true or
not, but the New York Times guy doesn't
see it that way.
But he says the breakup took place in
2004 with this dispute over some property that

(47:43):
both of them wanted.
But let's play the rest of this and
I have my point of information.
And Trump himself, after Epstein died in jail,
said he hadn't talked to him in 15
years.
And we haven't found any evidence that contradicts
that.
What was his reaction or public reaction when
Epstein was arrested on sex trafficking in 2019?

(48:07):
Well, he tried to distance himself from any
connection to Epstein and he called him a
creep.
There have been times when he called for
a full investigation.
There have been times when he tried to
suggest maybe Democrats were involved in wrongdoing in
connection to Epstein.
And there have been other times when he
sort of hedged and said he didn't want
everything out and that he believed maybe innocent

(48:30):
people could be unfairly maligned.
And he even expressed sympathy for Ms. Maxwell,
who was Jeffrey Epstein's former girlfriend, who's now
serving a prison sentence for helping him with
his sex trafficking ring.
And she was convicted of that and is

(48:51):
doing a 20-year prison sentence currently.
Okay.
So, okay, let's go to the last clip
and then I'll bring it up.
You say he was sort of ambivalent about
releasing this stuff during the campaign, but it
was certainly a big part of the MAGA

(49:11):
base that was supporting him.
And now he's trying to get them to
move on.
Do you think they will?
It doesn't seem like it.
You know, he famously bragged he could shoot
someone on Fifth Avenue and wouldn't lose any
supporters.
This seems to be the one issue, though,
where he's really put himself in a political
fix.
His base has been adamant that all these

(49:32):
files be released.
If you look at sort of right-wing
message boards or social media posts, really ardent
supporters of Donald Trump are turning on him
over this issue.
They're saying he's becoming, you know, like the
swamp.
He's part of a cover-up.
And so him saying move on does not

(49:54):
appear to be working.
Maybe it's working with some of the Republicans
on Capitol Hill.
Maybe it's working with, you know, a few
talk show hosts.
But by and large, the base seems to
be demanding that every piece of information about
Jeffrey Epstein and his crimes come out.
As you know, there's widespread belief that there
were, you know, rich and famous men who

(50:18):
abused women along with Jeffrey Epstein.
And people want to see those men brought
to justice.
And to date, it's really only been Jeffrey
Epstein and Maxwell who have faced any legal
repercussions.
OK, your analysis, John C.
DeVore.
Well, it's not an analysis.
It's a point of information, which is that
the recent scandal supposedly that was run out

(50:40):
of the Wall Street Journal was a note
that was given to Epstein for his birthday.
It was put in a binder.
And I guess it was bound as though
it couldn't have been unbounded and rebound by
the CIA, let's say.
That note, supposedly some lewd note that he
made a lot of sexual points or something.
Well, I mean, the exact text was, let

(51:02):
every day be a secret, a beautiful secret.
Yeah, some bullcrap.
That note is dated 2006.
How does that jive with in-depth reporting
by an operation that doesn't like Trump?
And they say that there's no connection between
Trump and Epstein after 2004.
How does the 2006 document fit into the

(51:23):
scheme of things?
Point of information.
I thought it was 2012 when that when
that note went.
That was my understanding.
It was 2006, but it's still after 2004.
2004 is the cutoff point.
According to all the research we've seen, no
evidence goes on about it, that Trump and
Epstein had anything to do with each other
after 2004.

(51:43):
How does the 2006 or 12, whatever the
year.
Well, how does that fit into the scheme?
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't.
It's a fake.
But even then, let's just say he did
it.
He drew a naked lady and he put
in there, happy birthday.
No, the whole thing was dumb.
I think I have the have the text
here.
I think this is a brolf.

(52:05):
This is CNN breaking news.
Breaking news.
We begin with the breaking news.
President Trump is taking a big step forward
in revealing details, details.
Details, details.
Of the self-trafficking case against Jeffrey Epstein.
He's now authorizing the attorney general of the
United States, Pam Bondi, to produce and I'm
quoting now, any and all pertinent grand jury

(52:27):
testimony.
Close quote.
The Justice Department says it will go to
court today to seek that public release.
Even the president's loyal followers have demanded the
administration make good on its promise to share
more information.
And new this morning, the president and his
allies are lashing out at the Wall Street
Journal.
Lashing out.
It was reported that Epstein's friends and family
associates sent body letters for a birthday album.

(52:48):
Body.
In 2003.
Body.
Body letters.
According to the journal, one of those letters.
2003.
That's what they're saying now.
This is CNN though.
It's from Donald Trump.
They keep changing, they keep moving the target
on us.
Well, it was for his 50th birthday.
That would mean 2012.
I mean, that's the simple math.
I looked that up because people were saying,

(53:10):
it's not Donald Trump.
It was Donald Barr.
Donald Barr.
Bill Barr's dad who hired him.
It was Donald.
Donald.
Donald Barr.
Donald Barr died in 2004, people.
So no, it didn't happen then either.
And it is so, so graphic.
The article in the Wall Street Journal describes
the letter.
I thought Babylon Bee did the best.

(53:32):
They had a headline.
Donald Trump typed 8008 on a calculator, turned
it upside down and showed it to Epstein.
Letter this way, and I'm quoting now.
It contains several lines of typewritten text framed
by the outline of a naked woman, which
appears to be hand drawn with a heavy
marker.

(53:56):
That's it.
No, it has to be that way because
you have to envision him holding the thing
like a fist with a crayon because he's
a big dope.
No, he uses a Sharpie for all of
his signatures.
So I think that's the reference.
And the future president's signature is a squiggly
Donald below her waist mimicking pubic hair.

(54:20):
The letter concludes, happy birthday.
Oh no, pubic hair.
And may every day be another wonderful secret.
I mean, what, what, what is the, what
in the world is this?
If this is just, it's like, okay.
First of all, I don't know why the,
I mean, he's filed a $10 billion lawsuit.
Why does he even care if not to

(54:41):
make it the distraction of the week?
I don't understand any other reason to file
a $10 billion lawsuit over this.
How is that even, let's say it's not
his, but how is that defamatory?
Pubic hair.
What, what in the world is going on?

(55:02):
And then of course we've got CNN dragging
out every story we can.
Jeffrey Epstein's ex-girlfriend speaking out tonight.
Stacey Williams, a former Sports Illustrated model who
dated Epstein in the early nineties, has spent
time with both Epstein and Donald Trump together.
In one disturbing alleged incident, which Williams went

(55:23):
public with last year, before the presidential election,
Williams says Trump groped her in front of
Epstein at Trump Tower in 1993.
Here's what she told our summoner, Fadi, when
she first broke her silence.
The second he was in front of me,
he pulled me into him and his hands

(55:43):
were just on me and didn't come off.
Then the hands started moving and they were
on the, you know, on the side of
my breasts, on my hips, back down to
my butt, back up, sort of then, you
know, they were just on me the whole
time.
And I, sorry, I froze.
Williams also claimed that Epstein and Trump looked

(56:06):
at each other and smiled during the alleged
incident, which Williams says she now believes was
coordinated and quote, some kind of weird twisted
game.
Trump denied Williams's allegations through his campaign at
the time, which said in part, quote, it's
obvious this fake story was contrived by Kamala
Harris's campaign.
So, of course, actually, Naomi Wolf wrote a

(56:28):
pretty decent essay on her sub stack, which
goes back to your boy, because she also
had Brockman was her publicist and the millionaire
and then later billionaire dinners and how all
of these scientists, you know, and this is
goes a bit about what Weinstein said, is
that Epstein had his hands on all kinds

(56:49):
of technology and scientific stuff and whether he
was trying to steer it towards, I don't
know, gene therapies.
It doesn't really matter.
But in the really in the grand jury
testimony, there is going.
A lot of people are going to be
implicated because they either went down to a
conference at the island and maybe, you know,

(57:09):
I can certainly see you got a bunch
of nerds down there.
Hey, hey, guys, look at these girls.
Yeah, but you don't know.
I should mention that there used to be
I wish I could remember the name of
the company, but there was a small it
was some something of a startup and it
was a chip company.
And they used to during the Comdex era,

(57:30):
they used to do these big.
I never found out about this.
Never went to one of these parties because
I think they would have been a hoot.
But you didn't get invited is what you're
saying.
Well, that's probably what the way I wasn't
invited because they don't.
I'm sure I wasn't wouldn't be invited because
I was a writer.

(57:50):
And they really this was a sales kind
of a thing.
They were trying to sell their product to
people.
But I knew a guy that went to
it all the time.
And he says it all.
This guy did.
The CEO was well connected with the underground
and he just loaded.
It was all whores.
It's a party of hookers.
Yeah.
And so they bring all these guys in

(58:11):
and they all these hookers would be taken
immune to the different rooms around whatever they
were, whatever hotel they were in.
And that's how they did their business.
Their whole business was basically getting these guys
to sign up on getting using these guys
chips with hookers.
It's the oldest trick in the book.

(58:33):
It was.
Yeah, it's obvious if you can pull it
off.
And they pulled it off.
They stock went public and I didn't they
got bought by somebody else.
And next thing you know, I don't know.
I can't even remember the name of the
company, but I do remember the story.
And because this guy, my friend who went
to these parties, he said it was hilarious
to watch these guys get.
They'd all thought these half of these guys

(58:54):
that were the buyers didn't know they were
even hookers.
They thought these girls were interested.
And then five seconds later.
Hey, look at this.
So here's.
Okay, so here's the thing that is just

(59:16):
not in the discussion.
Actually, let me play one more clip.
I mean, this morning, Martha Raddatz ABC this
week.
Oh, my God.
We got to keep talking about it.
We can't stop.
I'm joined now by GOP Congressman Tim Burchett
of Tennessee, who has called for more transparency
in the Epstein case.
Good morning, Congressman.
You've co-sponsored the bipartisan Epstein Files Transparency

(59:39):
Act, which would force the House to vote
on whether or not to release all government
files on Epstein.
What exactly do you think the government is
withholding here?
By the way, can the House do that?
Can they supersede the Department of Justice and
say, release everything?
And no matter what.
I don't know that they can.

(59:59):
I have no.
I don't.
It's not.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
It doesn't sound right.
It doesn't sound right to me either.
But anyway, they're all virtue signaling.
Well, that's the million-dollar question, ma'am.
Ma'am.
Yeah, ma'am.
Hey, ma'am.
Here's a million-dollar question.
I'm going to answer it for you.
The question is, what's that in your mouth,
ma'am?

(01:00:20):
That's the question.
Well, that's the million-dollar question, ma'am.
I applaud the president and Attorney General Bondi
for wanting to release the grand jury files.
I believe that'll pretty much cover everything.
But I would give everybody a caveat.
That's a big word.
But a warning that just because somebody flew
on a plane doesn't mean they're a dadgum
pedophile.

(01:00:41):
Dadgum.
I have a lot of wealthy friends.
This guy is great.
I have not heard him.
He's a dadgum pedophile.
I'll tell you right now, he's not a
dadgum pedophile.
Because I got a lot of rich friends,
and they fly on each other's jets all
the time.
Because somebody flew on a plane doesn't mean
they're a dadgum pedophile.
You know, I have a lot of wealthy

(01:01:02):
friends.
I aspire to be wealthy, but I've taken
a vow of poverty because my daughter rides
horses.
This is my favorite.
What?
I aspire to be wealthy, but I can't.
Yeah, we bought a horde of horses, a
whole bunch, a fleet of them.
And I'm broke.
So I can't be rich because my daughter,
she loves riding them horses, them quarter horses.

(01:01:24):
They cost like a million bucks a piece.
But I have a lot of wealthy friends,
and they fly on people's planes, and their
plane will be down.
And they'll say, hey, we're going somewhere, and
we got an extra seat.
Do you want to go?
And they don't even know the person on
the plane.
Hey, if I had my own plane, I
wouldn't be like, who are you?
No.
If I was wealthy and had my own

(01:01:46):
dadgum plane, I wouldn't have anyone I didn't
know on my plane.
And we got an extra seat.
Do you want to go?
And they don't even know the person on
the plane.
So, you know, that's one of the things
I worry about, too, because, you know, President
Trump— Sounds like somebody took a plane ride.
—that he flew on his dadgum plane.
Dadgum plane again.
I worry about some innocent people.

(01:02:06):
I worry about—there's over a thousand people that
this dirtbag apparently offended.
And currently, I believe the devil's dealing with
him.
Right.
But I worry about some of those innocents'
names being out on that, too, as well.
The guy's doing a filibuster.
How do you spell dadgum?
Is it D-A-G-G-U-M?
No, it's dadgum.

(01:02:27):
It's D-A-D-G-U-M.
Dadgum.
That's a possible show title, I think.
Dadgum.
I wrote it down as a show title.
Dadgum.
Do you want to hear more from this
guy?
Because I find him— Oh, I love this
guy's voice.
—entertaining all of a sudden.
You think unsealing the grand jury records is
enough for you now?
Well, ma'am, I think it's a start.

(01:02:49):
I don't think we're ever going to get
to the bottom of anything—all of it, ma
'am.
I mean— Ma'am?
Look at the Kennedy assassination.
Do you actually believe Lee Harvey Oswald shot
President Kennedy from the front and the back,
and this magic bullet appears an hour later
on a hospital gurney in an emergency room?
You know, this town doesn't give up its

(01:03:10):
secrets very easy.
And I'd warn people, too.
Now we're getting ahold of this stuff.
What happened the last four years under the
Biden administration?
Senator Dick Durbin blocked my senator, Marsha Blackburn,
who valiantly fought to get those records out
and acted pretty much like there wasn't anything,
and the media backed him up on it.
And now all of a sudden the media

(01:03:30):
thinks they've got something, and it's leveled towards
Trump.
But, you know, my history with this issue
goes back a long way.
I spent 16 years in the Tennessee General
Assembly, and I passed—and attempted to pass some
of the toughest laws in the country, some
of the first ICAC funding, Anti-Violent Crimes
Against Children.
I promoted the death penalty, chemical castration of

(01:03:52):
child molesters.
A lot of those bills were ruled unconstitutional.
I don't mess around.
You know, I'm from Tennessee, so I live
in Franklin with my horses.
So the CEO of In-N-Out Burgers
moving to this guy's state— she's from the
San Francisco Bay Area originally.
No, this is not going to work out.

(01:04:14):
Native California, you know, you can— Dadgum In
-N-Out Burger?
I don't know if you can stay in
Tennessee that long.
Is your Dadgum In-N-Out Burger, you
make them from grass-fed beef, or you
finish them off with some grain, or you
just feed them Snicker bars?
I want to know.
So you no longer believe— That was pretty
good, actually.
I'm surprised at myself.
You actually have it.

(01:04:35):
You nailed it.
Or are demanding— You got it.
You got the voice.
—that all the Epstein files be released?
No, ma'am.
I want them released.
But my warning is this.
Let's make sure that we're not releasing the
names of some of these who are then
children, now adults, that were abused by this

(01:04:55):
dirtbag Epstein.
Dirtbag.
And let's make sure we don't release things
that have innocence names on them.
That's been my concern with the original— I
thought they were dragging their feet in the
beginning under the Biden administration.
They never did anything.
And now, all of a sudden, it's become
a political issue.
It's not a political issue with me, ma
'am.

(01:05:15):
I've held the hands of people that have
been molested, and they carry a life sentence.
I just want to make sure— You've been
very critical.
I'm sorry.
You have been very critical of Pam Bondi
during this.
And the president said he thinks she's handled
it well.
So where is the disconnect there?
And do you think she should resign?
Well, no, ma'am.

(01:05:36):
I think she's doing a fine job.
I think her communication with us early on
was not as good.
I mean, the binder, for instance, that she
put out, I was very excited about that.
I was excited.
But then I found the contents of it,
and I think she blundered in the beginning.
I really do, as most Americans do, because
that white notebook that those young folks, those

(01:05:58):
influencers walked out with— Dadgum influencers.
Dadgum.
Dadgum influencers walked out with.
That was a hoax.
That was it.
That was it.
And then when I started digging into it,
it was stuff that I— And I like
my postings on Twitter or X, but that's
about the limit of my computer knowledge.

(01:06:18):
But even I could find those things on
the Internet that were already out there.
So I think they blundered in the beginning,
but I think they're going to finish strong.
All right.
Do you want to hear the last clip
from this guy?
I wasn't even planning on playing him at
all.
He's tormenting me with his— Well, this guy—
Cory, I mean, you know, this guy's good.
This guy's good.
He's good.
His voice is— Dadgum.
President Trump has started claiming this is all

(01:06:40):
a hoax that is being perpetrated by the
Democrats.
He says some of his own supporters who
he labeled stupid and foolish Republicans.
You are obviously one of those people who
wants this released.
You're stupid.
What's your reaction to how President Trump has
handled it?
Yes, ma'am.
I'm not stupid.
I'm not stupid.
It's his strategy.
You know, everybody questions President Trump's strategy.

(01:07:02):
They said the big, beautiful bill wasn't going
to get out on the 4th of July.
Trump comes out and says, I don't care
when you put it out.
I said, I don't care if you put
it out on July 40th or get the
bill out.
I just want it out.
And what happened?
That guy, we passed it on the 4th
of July.
He's just dadgum again.
Cryptocurrency bill.
Cryptocurrency.
As that Bitcoin stuff.
Had the Genius Act part of that.

(01:07:23):
And everybody said it was dead.
It wasn't going anywhere.
And there I am on a phone call.
I'm in a meeting with our speaker and
our whip, Tom Emmert, and 10 or 12
fellow conservatives that had concerns about it.
And lo and behold, President Trump calls, answers
all of our questions.
And the bill passes.
And he signed it on Friday.

(01:07:43):
So I think to underestimate Donald J.
Trump is a mistake in this town.
And I think we're learning that.
And that's his strategy.
Was I a little ticked off?
He said that stuff.
Sure, I was.
But I'm a big boy, ma'am.
I'm a big boy.
We're playing in the big leagues right now.
And I get criticized every day.

(01:08:04):
I get death threats on a pretty regular
basis.
So my skin's about that thick right now.
I think I can take a little criticism.
It sounds like you can.
He's coming out with it.
He's coming out with it.
It's all good.
It's all good.
That's right.
That's right.
Wow.
Who is that?
What is that guy?
Tim Burchett.
Tim Burchett of Tennessee.
That guy's a star.

(01:08:24):
Yeah, I think I love the dadgum things
he's been saying.
Well, you know, dadgum is a one of
these things like cripes.
It's better.
It's better.
This should be.
Well, it is.
Well, it's because it's a cuss word.
What's the dadgum vibe over there, John?
Is it dadgum move?

(01:08:45):
So it's a cuss word.
Of course.
It's like saying, you know, dropping the F
-bomb constantly or the, you know, various forms
of damn.
Yes.
So it's just one of these substitutes that
come in frigging, you know.
Yeah.
I do not like people who say frigging.
But we know what you mean.
I like writing it.

(01:09:08):
Frigging?
Yeah.
When you're writing frigging, F-R-I-G
-G-I-N apostrophe, it has just a
nice ring to it in print.
Okay.
Believe me.
I get the chance to, I don't use
it that much, but when I use it,
I like using it.

(01:09:28):
The only thing he didn't do was he
didn't say y'all.
I missed the y'all in there.
He didn't say y'all once.
It should have been.
So here's the thing that is kind of
being overlooked in all this.
And, you know, before this show started, I've
been looking at these and I mentioned on
the previous show, Do True, the Rolodex files.
I've been around elites, you know, but I

(01:09:49):
was in, this is when I was.
They burned a radio station down because of
you.
Yes.
When I was, I think 17, we had
the pirate radio station and one of the
guys.
And there's a story about your first wife
and the, well, I won't even get into
that story.
But anyway, go on and continue.
What story is that?
About the Gob-a-goo.

(01:10:11):
The Gob-a-goo?
Yeah, nevermind.
I'm stumped.
Oh, no, I can tell you that.
Oh, yeah.
No, that wasn't, it wasn't the Gob-a
-goo.
It was one of the, one of the
royal members of the Dutch royal family.
This is before I knew her.

(01:10:33):
And, and they were doing a photo op
and this member, literal member of the royal
family was rubbing up against her with a
boner.
But there was no Gob-a-goo.
I don't recall that.
Oh, I understood there'd be a Gob-a
-goo.
No, I don't think, Gob-a-goo, do
you spell that G-O-B-B-A
-goo?
G-O-B-B-A-goo.
Gob-a-goo.

(01:10:53):
Gob-a-goo!
I think it's a...
Yeah, it's also Italian.
I think it's a Ramones song.
Anyway, so, and I've been, so back to
my story.
So I was 17 and we had this
guy who sponsored the pirate radio station.
He had two clothing stores and he said,
yeah, you know, you're going to America.
I want you to record all the, all

(01:11:15):
the ads.
Cause I'm, I'm crazy about advertising.
I want to see all Americans do ads.
So I go to his house.
It's like a mansion in Amsterdam.
In Amsterdam itself, you know, comprised of like
a whole city block.
And it was creepy, just creepy in general.
I'm kind of like, oh, what am I?
And he was going to give me money
to record these ads.

(01:11:37):
Maybe I was 16 to record these ads.
Then all of a sudden I see a
Dutch minister of parliament riding a 10 speed
bike in the house.
I'm like, what in the world is this?
And he was like, hey, you know, you
should come to the party later tonight.
Yeah, okay.
I think I'll pass on the party.
Then it was just, it's just weird.
So when you get into this level of

(01:11:58):
wealth and this level of fame and power,
people do crazy things.
The most normal people will get into, you
know, what is it?
Eyes wide shut.
That stuff's for real people, people who are
bored.
They can buy a board.
That's the kicker.

(01:12:19):
They're bored.
They can buy anything.
They can do anything.
So they get into these situations and every
day all the kids are doing it.
And then you, you, you wind up in
these odd situations.
Yeah.
But yeah, you're in a satanic cult.
That's the next thing you know, but what,
what is not being discussed in all of
this, and this is really a spiritual problem

(01:12:39):
we have in America is that, you know,
there's 40,000 images of child pornography uploaded
to the internet in America every single day.
And it'd be surprising if it wasn't every
single minute.
And, you know, when I look at the
culture, We have the culture we've created going

(01:13:00):
back to the thirties in Hollywood with Shirley
Temple and war babies, Shirley Temple in a
bra, highly sexualized, you know, and it never
stopped, never stopped in Hollywood and everything that
we have in our media.
There are so many and particularly advertising.

(01:13:20):
So many trigger points have been examined and
reexamined and young, smooth skin.
It makes people want to buy products and
we have corrupted so many.
How do people get into the state?
How do they get into, you know, you
can, if you just Google a child pornography

(01:13:41):
network arrested, Oh, there's a good idea.
Google that everybody out there every month.
There's hundreds, hundreds of people being arrested for
this stuff.
It is right throughout our culture.
And this is, I would like to see
that conversation.
Be discussed for once, but you're not by,
by Martha Raddatz for all I care.

(01:14:02):
Or this dadgum guy.
No, I see all this stuff.
Yeah.
Tell us more because that is the real
problem.
Yeah, sure.
Scientists, wealthy people.
At least we don't have a state.
We don't have a building.
The no agenda show doesn't have a building
that burned down.
So we're good there.
Your house maybe.
But my point is we need to look

(01:14:24):
at our own culture and what, what, how
do we get to this point outside of
the rich people?
It's really sick.
We are very, very sick.
And I heard just the other day that
a lot of this child trafficking is happening
through some of the beef networks.

(01:14:45):
I'll just keep it very vague because I,
I don't have any proof of it.
Coming up through from South America through the
big beef processors.
There's only three, take your pick.
That's four in America is only three.
And, and it's an, it's an ongoing train
of just kids and underage boys and girls

(01:15:08):
being trafficked throughout our country.
But how did, how did we get so
sick?
How do you get to the 300,000
missing kids from Biden administration?
How do we get, you know, it's just
the whole thing.
It's an underground.
I don't know.
That's what I'm saying.
This, this is the, I'd rather have people

(01:15:28):
be discussing that for hours.
Like what is going on?
What is happening?
How does this happen?
Why is this everywhere in the world?
What are we missing?
Yeah, it's a different podcast.
It's a different podcast, but just need to
bring it up.
I think you should do this other podcast.
I think I will actually.
Okay.
I think I will.
It'll be cold.
Yeah.
I think I should.

(01:15:49):
Yeah.
Because that, that conversation, everyone's like, Oh, Epstein,
Epstein.
But how about all the other victims that
never, I never discussed.
All right.
Another podcast.
I'll start another podcast.
Yeah.
You, you're not podcasting enough.
I need more podcasts in my life.
Well, thank you.
That's a good idea.
I'm going to do that.
I'm going to think about it.

(01:16:10):
I think you should.
I'll call it.
You've been, it's not, I'm not saying this
as a flippant.
You're not being flippant.
I'm not being flippant.
I think you should, because you've been doing
this before we even started this podcast.
You've been on this kick.
I'll call it a kick.
Yeah.
About this with the, with all this stuff

(01:16:31):
in Holland and you just, you bitch and
moan about it constantly, but you don't do
the podcast.
You don't, you haven't done a podcast about
it.
I think I should.
I'm going to, and it's not just, this
is lots of now.
It could be a true crime podcast.
Oh goodness.
No, no.
There's some money there.
There's another thing.
When did we become obsessed with true crime?

(01:16:52):
That is the number one podcast category.
It was like, we're not obsessed with, with
stopping it.
No, we're obsessed with listening about it.
I want to hear how they kill them.
Screw podcasting on that.
It's also, if you think about it, if
you watch the over the air, you don't
do so much as I do over the
air TV.

(01:17:13):
There's at least three entire networks that do
nothing but 24, seven reruns of dateline and
all the other and true crime.
This and true.
There's a network called true crime.
Yeah.
And they just play these documentaries and it's
just, and you, they're all compelling.
There's always some nut ball teacher in some

(01:17:33):
town in Idaho.
And it says you want, and this person
got messed up and they killed a sister
in law because of this and that.
And wow.
Geez.
Yeah.
Well, so somehow our minds have really just
been corrupted.
And I was thinking about this in, in
regards to the chat bot, which now it
has a name.
Actually, I didn't realize this chat with the

(01:17:55):
hair.
No, no.
What are you talking about?
That one chat, the physical chat, the one
that's the girl.
No, no, no.
In general, it's called chat, GPT induced psychosis.
Oh, you're talking about the condition.
Yes.
And there's a lot of, I mean, I

(01:18:18):
had no idea so much had been written
about it.
Like people are being involuntary involuntarily committed and
jailed after spiraling into chat, GPT induced psychosis.
And what's interesting about it is it always,
it always winds up in the same kind
of where people go nuts is them.

(01:18:40):
They believe that the chat GPT is a
sentient being.
And they're communicating with a spiritual world, every
single one of these stories, except for the
ones who are having, you know, sexual fantasies
with them.
Well, this is how different is this from
the people that are notorious for thinking that
TV is talking to them.

(01:19:00):
Oh, it's secret messages.
It's not, but this is, this is a
whole different deal.
I mean, this is, but there's a billion
people using these chat bots and I'm okay
with, although there's no evidence that the actual
productivity is there.
I'm seeing people crying about their vibe coding
going wrong and, Oh, my chat GPT deleted

(01:19:21):
my production database.
Okay.
So, you know, and I'm, and it's fine
if you want to create AI voices and
funny memes and that's all great.
But the psychosis part of people talking to
their chat bots and being sucked in.
And I realized that we have been so
preconditioned for this.

(01:19:42):
Going back to your favorite Colossus, Colossus, was
that, was that the movie, the Colossus, the
Forbidden Project project?
Yes.
1970, 2001 space.
One of my faves space Odyssey.
This is all computers talking to people.
Tron war games.
Of course.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(01:20:02):
Terminator is the door.
But what was it?
Hal was the name of the computer.
Hal, Hal, open the door, open the door.
No, I'm sorry, Dave.
Yeah, that's not opening the door.
Not going to happen.
So war games, shall we play a game
of thermonuclear war Terminator?
Short circuit was short circuit.
Remember Johnny five is alive.

(01:20:23):
They look cute.
I remember that movie.
Her, of course, 2013, uh, mission impossible.
But then my favorite, as I realized, Oh
man, Knight Rider, everybody wanted to talk to
their car.
I'm sorry, David, I can't get there right
now.
I haven't started my engine yet.
Max Headroom, Star Trek, X-Files, Black Mirror,

(01:20:47):
classic Mr. Robot.
I mean, we have been so preconditioned for
this that it's no wonder that you mentioned
Star Trek.
They had the talking computer back in 1960.
Yes.
Computer.
So it's, it doesn't surprise me.
Anyway, I would say if you're having conversations,
if you're working, if you're having conversations with

(01:21:08):
your chat GPT or any chat bot, you
have been biohacked and you need to check
yourself.
Working, working.
You need to check yourself.
This, you watch, this is going to be,
this will be headline news within six months.
And then, and of course, well, we need

(01:21:28):
to regulate this.
No, no.
Take the phones away from your kid, put
them in a drawer.
I'm all in with you on this, John,
put it in a drawer.
You're all in, but you have not done
it.
Because I, but I'm not a retard.
I don't, I don't, I'm not.
Boy, are you calling me a retard?
Yeah, kind of.
No, I mean, it's like, I, I can

(01:21:51):
balance myself.
I, you know, it's like, I'm a, I'm
an, I'm a boomer.
I'm an adult boomer.
So I, I'm not falling for this.
You got a nasty note.
I saw.
I did.
Oh, one of our producers said that you've
sold out.
You should still represent yourself as a millennial.
Now they've got nobody on the show to

(01:22:12):
represent the millennials.
No, I'm not a millennial.
I'd be Jen.
I'm sorry.
Nobody to represent the Gen X.
You're right.
Nobody to represent the Gen X.
Not you've sold out.
You're just another boomer.
Like John, you should go back, go back.
You're on the cusp.
Go back to Gen X.
Go back.
I didn't see anybody stepping up and defending
me.

(01:22:33):
Oh, no.
Gen Xers.
They can't, they haven't got enough backbone to
do anything.
Those Gen Xers.
Gen Xers are actually the cool ones.
Everything after Gen X.
The millennials are cooler.
I like the Zs.
The zoomers.
And that was your boomer update.
Wait, don't like the zoomers.
I would have this one.

(01:22:54):
You're over the hill.
We'll be done sooner if you shut your
mouth.
Okay, boomer.
I'm kind of embracing it now.
I'm just like, just go with it.
Yeah, it's better.
Literally, I posted that on X.
If you're having conversations with your chat GPT
or any chat bot, you've been biohacked.
The number one comment.

(01:23:15):
Okay, boomer.
Yeah, it's kind of, that's kind of trite
at this place.
Cliched.
You know, the guy that I played with
something new people, the guy that I played
on the last show, where he, where, you
know, the chat GPT all of a sudden
became, was channeling stuff to him from a
spiritual another world.

(01:23:35):
Yeah, that guy.
And yeah, so there were, there were two
other clips that went with that.
I didn't even play him because once he
was like, the chat bot said, well, you
need to eat some mushrooms and go to
Sedona, California.
I figured even you wouldn't take it seriously
after that.
So I got an email from somebody saying
you didn't play the whole thing.
The guy went to Sedona and just, I

(01:23:57):
got this email too.
Yeah.
And, and just like the guy that was
promised from his, from his chat bot, a
red Hawk appeared.
I said, the guy was on shrooms.
You could have said an angel will appear.
It would have believed it.
Yes, true.
But then this is one of our producers
ability.
I'm not saying this is real, but you
can't deny something is going on here.

(01:24:19):
There is some kind of connection.
Now hold on some kind of connection.
You're getting to the, I think you, you
come close to a voice, a new voice.
Oh, I don't know if I can do
it now.
What was the voice?
I never know how to describe it, but
anxious kind of freaky guy.
It's a type of freaky guy.

(01:24:39):
That's not like the stoner.
It's a freaky guy.
Who's it's enthusiastic and nuts.
You don't understand this.
Is there something going on here?
They're getting downloads from another dimension.
That's better.
You shouldn't have said anything.
Ah, well, it'll come back to you.
You, you have these things.

(01:25:00):
They, you, you, it's you channel them.
Yeah, but I think that people are looking
for some kind of, actually in the legendary
words of Lonnie Frisbee, there's a whole generation
out there just looking for God, man.
That's what people are doing there.
They want some spiritual connection.
Oh, well, the chat GPT will provide it.

(01:25:22):
That's the scary part.
I don't know.
Is it scary?
Or is it maybe a good thing?
Well, once you get, once you get them
hooked on the, on the chat GPT, then
you can go into the system and then
control the masses.
And they'll all vote Democrat.
Well, you, you, that's what you got to
do.
You got to get him to vote Republican.
Nah, you, what you put, yeah, there's all

(01:25:45):
vote.
Democrat thing is a real issue.
Hmm.
Anyway, that's what the schools have managed to
pull off.
Yeah.
Um, so then we had not one, not
two, but three bills pass, um, during crypto
week, crypto week.

(01:26:06):
Uh, I have a, and of course you
heard about this.
Yes.
Before you go on with crypto week, I
have a week.
I just want to read.
I think I have it right here.
Yeah.
Some email that came and you should be
aware of.
I don't know.
I don't know anything about it, but it's
an email from a, some one of these

(01:26:27):
things I ended up blocking trade, something or
other investment stuff.
And he guy says he, this is important.
This is about Washington's first ever crypto week
is here.
Crypto.
And he goes on and on and on.
Then it says Larry, uh, Benedict's Bitcoin skimming
strategy.
This is something you should know about can
make you six X nine X.

(01:26:49):
And even, I don't know why they skipped
the 22 X more money from the same
Bitcoin moves.
So you can make six X.
So if you're doubling your money, you can,
you can be 12 X.
It'd be 12 X or 22, which would
be 40, a 40 bang, a 40 bagger.
So you, you know, I'm just, you want

(01:27:10):
me to pass.
I'll have this for our forward.
This to you, John, it's okay.
You can ridicule me all you want.
I didn't really, I'm not ridiculing you.
Well, what is Benedict?
I don't care about Benedict.
So crypto week was anything but about crypto.
It was all about the stable coin today.
Mark says this, by the way, is our

(01:27:30):
secretary of the treasury, Scott Besant.
And here we go today.
Mark's a seminal moment for digital assets and
global dollar dominance with president Trump signing the
genius act into law.
This bill provides the fast growing stable coin
market with the regulatory clarity.
It needs to grow into a trillion dollar

(01:27:52):
industry.
Stable coins represent a revolution in digital finance.
The dollar now has an internet native payment
rail that is fast, frictionless, and free of
middlemen.
This groundbreaking technology will buttress the dollar status
as a global reserve currency, expand access to
the dollar economy for billions across the globe,

(01:28:15):
and lead to a surge in demand for
us treasuries, which backs stable coins.
The genius act is a win, win, win
for everyone involved.
Stable coin, stable coin issuers, and the U
S treasury department.
I want to thank president Trump for his
visionary leadership in shepherding this bill into law

(01:28:37):
and Congress for rapidly advancing this critical legislation
by expanding financial freedom and reinforcing dollar dominance.
Stable coins will play a critical role in
making America great again.
So a couple of things about this.
I'd like our people to know because a
lot of misinformation.
And I have a question.

(01:28:58):
Go ahead.
Can Russia use these things?
Yes.
In fact, that is the intent.
The intent is the dollar dominance that the
stable coin is used everywhere, preferably outside of
America, but of course it'll be used in.
So Russia can use these things.
So after being kicked off of swift swift
is irrelevant.

(01:29:19):
They'll do the same deals.
Only they have to use stable coin.
Even better deals would be the same.
Yes.
Even better to be cheaper for the Russians
because stable coin system is a, is a
reward.
I would call it a workaround that is
superior to swift.
If it works.
Oh, it works.
It's already in place.
There's 400 million people using stable coin.

(01:29:39):
It works.
So this is a complete get the Russians
back into the international global market.
Everybody, Now, remember who runs, who runs swift,
who runs swift, Europe, the EU runs swift.
We don't run swift.
The EU, this is a F U E
U F U E U F U E
U.
So the Russia, anybody can use the stable

(01:30:00):
coin.
And there is no KYC.
This is a very important part of it.
No Kentucky.
What?
No, no your customer.
So I can send you a stable coin
or you can buy something for me.
And I don't have to know where that
stable coin came from.

(01:30:21):
This is a complete end around, around all
of that stuff.
Yeah.
But don't you want to know your customer?
If you're a salesperson details, my friend details,
if you have $10 million, you can, you
too can become a stable coin issuer.
You have to report every month.
You got to say, okay, we've got enough

(01:30:41):
treasuries.
It's only for short term treasuries.
So nothing over, I think, uh, was it,
was it 70 days or something?
Have it in one of these 90, 90
maybe.
Yeah.
Um, so that's the genius act.
Then they passed the securities clarity act, which
says, Hey, these aren't commodities except for Bitcoin.

(01:31:03):
And then the, the most important one I
don't think got signed.
And that's the anti CBDC surveillance act, which
is a way of saying, well, we don't
want the federal reserve involved in our gambit.
So they can't, they can't all of a
sudden produce a, uh, a central bank digital
currency, which would then be an obvious surveillance

(01:31:26):
coin.
That's what you'd call it.
Well, I'm sorry.
That's what you'd call it.
Yeah.
Surveillance coins, the spy coin.
Um, but I, I, from what I understand
that that is now going to be put
into, uh, a different bill that the Senate
is working on.
So people are a little wary about that.

(01:31:48):
Uh, but this is exactly what we discussed
for months here.
This is a complete change of, of this
is your new, we're moving from the petro
dollar into the stable, stable coin dollar.
And I think it's a very interesting move.
We'll see what happens.
I have no idea.
Um, if it's, if it's good or bad,

(01:32:09):
I'm not on that level.
Smelling another podcast.
Yeah.
I, I, I mean, we'll have to cut
this podcast by one a week because I
got all these other podcasts I got to
do.
You're laughing, but it may not be that
funny.
No, you're like the way I see it.
Yeah.
You could do these other podcasts, but it's

(01:32:31):
like your Keith Richards or your Mick Jagger
doing solo albums.
It doesn't make any difference.
The, you gotta come back to the, to
the no agenda show.
Cause that's where the real action is.
Mick Jagger had a pretty successful solo career
and, and yeah, but yeah, but why he
doesn't go out on a solo career.
He doesn't pack it at a hundred thousand
people at a, at a time to do

(01:32:52):
his solo act.
But I get that big advance on the
label deal and I get to do songs
with David Bowie.
So dancing in the streets.
So, I mean, what about my, David Bowie
still alive?
No, he's dead.
But what about my artistic freedom, John?
I mean, this is not all about money.
I mean, I know you think differently, but
for me, it may just, I just may

(01:33:13):
have to be able to talk about different
things.
That's where you go out and do your,
you know, do your little, uh, other podcasts,
your little 2.0 podcast, your, your, uh,
pedophile podcast.
What are you going to call the pedophile
podcast?
Anyway, I'm not going to do a pedophile
podcast.
That's, that's really, you are setting me up

(01:33:33):
for failure now by just, by just saying,
that's what it is.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm going to talk about our sick culture.
True crime.
There's the money.
Guess what?
I'm not going to ask you for any
help or any advice.
Uh, you shouldn't.
I wouldn't either.

(01:33:54):
Speaking of, um, of people who, uh, are
hanging on way too long to their careers
and will say anything to not have to
go out on the road.
All right.
Deadly flash floods in Texas, a ravaging storms
in the Northeast, sweltering heat waves.
And all of this, the path month, the
past month rather has brought a disastrous onslaught
of extreme weather, impacting every aspect of our

(01:34:16):
lives.
Even music on Wednesday, the Steve Miller band,
uh, an iconic rock star and band, um,
who has been performing since the sixties canceled
his band's long awaited 31 concert North American
tour in an Instagram shared that I'm quoting.
Now the combination of extreme heat, unpredictable flooding,

(01:34:39):
tornadoes, hurricanes, and massive forest fires make these
risks for you.
Our audience, the band, the crew unacceptable.
You can blame it on the weather.
The tour is canceled.
Okay.
First of all, name two songs by Steve
Miller band.
Can you name two?
Yeah.
Uh, four, uh, Mercury 49, uh, obscure.

(01:35:03):
Good one.
Well, I used to hear him play it
all the time.
He used to be, he used to play
free every Sunday at the park across from
the police department in Berkeley with them when
he had boss skags as his lead guitarist.
And so every, I saw him a million
times, um, Macho city fly like an Eagle.
Yeah.

(01:35:23):
Fly like, he's got a bunch of stuff.
Yeah.
He's also unknown to most people.
Abracadabra.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hold on.
I heard enough as Steve Miller band, Steve
Miller blues band originally.
And a lot of people don't realize he

(01:35:44):
actually has his own camp.
Yeah.
We see that the Bohemian Grove doesn't surprise
me that he's all into climate change.
He's blaming it on climate change.
He never said climate change.
He said weather, but they all said, they
all...
Well, hold on, hold on.
There's a second part to the story.

(01:36:05):
CNN's Chief Climate Correspondent Bill Weir is joining
us right now.
I wanna be, here's my new podcast.
It's the Chief Climate Correspondent podcast, everybody.
Bill, that is saying a lot, that weather
is forcing the Steve Miller band to stop
and the tour before it even gets underway.
And you know what?
He has taken a beating online from skeptics

(01:36:27):
who say, actually it was ticket sales that
made this decision and don't blame the weather
on that.
But this is a very real concern, especially
in the outdoor festival industry.
Ballroom, the big festival in Tennessee for the
second time in the last four years was
canceled because of flooding there.
They haven't announced dates for next year.
That's an ominous sign.

(01:36:47):
A bunch of smaller festivals have canceled this
year.
And the insurance rates, like you may not
believe Steve Miller or may not believe in
climate change, but insurance companies do.
And they increased prices for promoters becoming prohibited.
This is a real thing.
I hear it from a lot of my
buddies that the insurance for this kind of
calamity, climate calamity is making it unaffordable to

(01:37:11):
go out on the road.
By the way, the Joker.
Some people call me the space cowboy.
Yeah.
Some call me the gangster of love.
I'm on a jet airliner.
Come on, man.
You gave me obscure references.
Well, that's because that Mercury 49 song, when
you watched him live for years and years

(01:37:32):
at the free concert he gave every Sunday,
that was always his key song.
And he comes out with an album and
they make it like he's a psychedelic band
when he never was.
They bring out the first album.
That song's not on there.
It's an outrage.
That was always his kicker.
That was the song he finished with.
That was his favorite tune.
It was blues.
It was a blues band.

(01:37:53):
All of a sudden it became a psychedelic
band.
I found that.
That was ridiculous sellout to the current dad.
I'm going to do a music podcast.
That's what I'm going to do.
You probably should.
So anyway, he has his own camp at
the Bohemian Grove and it's got the biggest
stage, one of the biggest stages in the
whole grove.
And he does concerts for all the Bohemian

(01:38:15):
guys.
Really?
Yeah.
I've never been to one, but it's supposed
to be pretty spectacular.
Yes, you have been to one.
But you've been to Bohemian Grove.
Yeah, but I didn't go to a Steve
Miller concert.
This place is huge.
It's like a, it's an enclave.
That's a massive, you know, they have stages
all over the place.
It's all just entertainment all the time and
drinking.
It's a bunch of drunks.

(01:38:36):
You know, you, you are really only a
few meetings away from being in all of
these stories.
I mean, somehow you, you didn't go to
the billionaire dinner.
Yeah, no, I'm, I know what I'm doing.
I'm staying, I'm in good shape.
I'm a lowly podcaster.
Nobody's throwing bricks through the window.

(01:38:57):
Nobody shoots at me.
So speaking of Bohemian Grove, Bohemian, this is
a new story.
Bohemian Grove workers accused politicians and billionaires of
abuse, bad behavior in wage theft lawsuit.
That's possible.
Yeah, apparently, who was it?

(01:39:20):
It was some billionaire.
Oh, Coke, one of the Coke brothers, Bill
Coke.
He told one of the, I guess they
have a housekeeping there at Bohemian Grove.
What happened to walking around?
Depends on the camp.
Yeah.
You have to hand wash my underwear.
Then they're very upset about that.

(01:39:40):
I don't, that story sounds bogus.
You would know.
You've been to the Bohemian Grove, not me.
I don't know anything about it.
Then I guess we should talk about the
big scandal.
This is the big one.
They're gonna pick up Obama, they're gonna throw
him in jail.
Throw him in jail, I tell you.
Tulsi's on the war path.

(01:40:01):
In my role as the director of national
intelligence, I oversee 18 different intelligence community elements.
And in the months leading up to the
November 2016 election, the intelligence community agreed that
there was no intelligence that reflected that Russia
was trying to hack the election in favor

(01:40:21):
of either candidate.
The evidence showed, the intelligence showed, that again,
Russia did not have either the intent nor
the capability to be able to impact the
outcome of the United States election.
So it was very striking when we look
back again at the documents that I declassified
and released that shows there was a shift

(01:40:43):
in early December, the first week of December.
Again, another document was produced by the intelligence
community, a president's daily brief that was consistent
with every other assessment that was done previously
leading up to the election.
Russia was not, did not, this is after
the election now, did not attempt to affect
the outcome of the American election.

(01:41:06):
That was never published.
Hours before it would have gone into President
Obama's president's daily brief, it was pulled by
a senior level intelligence official saying that they
had to pull it because they had received
new guidance.
The very next day, this meeting was called,
a National Security Council meeting, bringing together all

(01:41:28):
of the senior leaders of President Obama's cabinet,
and the topic that was put forward was
a sensitive matter.
The tasks that came out of that meeting
was coming from President Obama directing the intelligence
community, then Obama's ODNI Director Clapper, to produce
a document, to produce an intelligence assessment that

(01:41:50):
detailed not if, but how Moscow affected the
outcome of the election that had already occurred,
electing Donald Trump to the presidency.
This document that they published in January of
2017 was the foundational groundwork that they continued
to reference over and over and over again

(01:42:11):
to enact this years-long coup against President
Trump.
Tulsi Gabbard needs to be able to explain
this in 30 seconds.
She's doing a horrible job here.
It's like, what?
That's an interesting point.
Like, what?
What did you just say?
What?

(01:42:31):
Huh?
What did she say?
Yeah, yeah, she's gotta boil this down better.
I mean, this is a good story.
It's a great story.
And she's not the soundbite girl that she
needs to be.
No.
That's a skill.
Yeah, no, she definitely is long-winded, too
complicated, pulling in things that are obscure.

(01:42:54):
Basically, if we boil it down, they lied.
They knew there was no collusion with Russia
and they launched it anyway and they literally
walked Christopher Steele around to all the media
outlets and said, listen to this guy.
He's back.
What?
Christopher Steele's back.

(01:43:14):
He's back?
Is he on TV?
He just came out this morning.
He's floating around, doubling down.
No, these are lies about me.
Oh, that's great.
Well, as a reminder, here's Adam Schiff.
The Russians offered help, which we know they
did.
The campaign accepted help, which we know they
did.
The Russians then delivered help, which we know
they did.
There is circumstantial evidence of collusion.

(01:43:35):
The case is more than that, and I
can't go into the particulars, but there is
more than circumstantial evidence now, so.
You've said on more than one occasion that
you've seen ample evidence of the Trump campaign's
Russia collusion.
Last March, you said you had more than
circumstantial evidence of treasonous collusion with Russia.
I've certainly said that there's ample evidence of

(01:43:57):
collusion.
Can you agree that there has been no
evidence of collusion coordination or conspiracy that has
been presented thus far between the Trump campaign
and Russia?
No, I don't agree with that at all.
I think there's plenty of evidence of collusion
or conspiracy.
But we do know this.
The Russians offered help.
The campaign accepted help.
The Russians gave help, and the president made

(01:44:18):
full use of that help, and that is
pretty damning.
Any collusion?
Yeah.
It's going nowhere.
It's a good story, but they're not rolling
it out right.
I agree.
I agree that they're not rolling it out
right, and she's not doing the job she

(01:44:38):
should be.
I mean, I think it's admirable that she's
done this in the first place.
Yeah.
And she's named names, and she's got everybody
kind of cornered, and everyone's freaking out about
it, but it's just not being done right.
I don't know if they're even freaking out
about it, because it's, you know, it's...
There's some freaking out about it, because they
got Steele back.

(01:44:59):
He's coming back, and then they're going on
and on.
I've seen her two or three people come
on and say, well, she's, you know, what
she's saying is not quite true, because she's
conflating this with that.
Well, it sounds like she is.
And then they keep bringing up the Facebook.
Facebook got tons and tons of, and Facebook,
we already know the Facebook story.
They got $100,000 worth of ads, which
is nothing.
I think I have that here.

(01:45:20):
Hold on a second.
And the ads were lame.
Yeah.
But they were funny.
Wasn't it like 650 bucks worth or something
at the end of the day?
It was like nothing.
They just dropped.
It was like somebody's pocket change.
Where was that?
I know I had the, I had the
clips.
But you had a number of clips about
what they did at Facebook.
No, but I had a recent one.

(01:45:42):
Let me just see.
Oh, a recent one.
Yeah, it was one of these, what was
it, this morning thing.
Hold on, let me see.
That's the hoax, Epstein.
So much Epstein, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Hmm, no, I can't find it.
I was sure, oh, maybe it was here.
Hold on.

(01:46:03):
No, no.
I don't know where it is.
I don't know where it is.
Jeez.
Well, it might pop up somewhere.
I don't know.
I had it where some guy was going
on.
Well, here, she was on Maria Bartiromo.
I was told that that's why they raided
Mar-a-Lago, that they wanted to find

(01:46:24):
- Why are you yelling?
The Trump-Russia documents that indicated there was
absolutely no collusion and that there was no
evidence to even start such an investigation, but
Trump didn't have it there in Mar-a
-Lago, but that's why they raided his house
in 2022.
Yeah, okay.
That was probably true.

(01:46:45):
Yeah, it could be true.
Yeah, it could be true, yeah.
Something was up.
Yeah.
Hey, what's this 988 stuff you got?
I've been looking at it all day, and
people should know, John sends me his clips
in the morning.
I don't listen to him.
I look at him because I put him
into a little JCD clips bin, but I
want to be just as surprised as you
are or just as disturbed.

(01:47:07):
Well, I was surprised about it too because
I didn't know anything about this.
I should have.
I know we both should have about 988.
You know, you can dial 988 on the
phone.
Oh, is this the transgender helpline?
Well, no.
It's a mental health hotline that had some
transgender stuff, but they blasted...

(01:47:30):
The whole thing makes no sense when you
listen to this report.
It's a bunch of short clips.
I think one's long, but let's play these
clips.
A few years ago, I started seeing these
signs posted all over my city, in the
metro, in public places, sharing this three-digit
phone number, 988.
That is the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline.

(01:47:52):
And it was launched on this day, exactly
three years ago.
When you call the line...
You've reached the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline.
The first thing you hear is a prerecorded
message.
Para español, marque el numero dos.
Options to connect to specialized support for populations
at high risk of suicide.
If you are a veteran or service member

(01:48:13):
or are calling about one, press one.
To connect to support for LGBTQI+, youth
and young adults, press three.
Last month, the Trump administration announced it was
canceling funding for a 988 LGBTQI-plus service.
That service alone has received over a million
contacts.

(01:48:34):
Otherwise, to talk with a counselor, stay on
the line or press zero.
And then what happens is that using nearby
cell phone towers, the system routes your call
through an existing network of 200 local and
state-funded crisis centers and connects you to
a trained crisis counselor who works in your
area.
That person picks up the phone and listens.

(01:48:54):
Since launch, the line has been contacted millions
of times through calls, texts, and the 988
chat box.
And a new study led by researchers at
NYU and Johns Hopkins estimates that 1.6
% of the U.S. population use the
line between July of 2022 and December of
2024.

(01:49:14):
Oh, okay, now I know what the story
is.
They canceled option number three.
Yeah, but when you listen to the whole
presentation, it's bull crap.
They never really cancel anything.
Oh, okay, clip two.
The Trevor Project takes care of the whole
deal and they still pass it on.

(01:49:35):
It doesn't mean, this is just a typical
NPR lame attempt or PBS does NPR, NPR,
I think.
It's NPR.
It says NPR, but I get mixed up,
as you know.
When you play the jingle, it explains it.
I was not at Bohemian Grove.
I was at a different camp.
I wanna talk about 911.

(01:49:57):
A previous generation, my parents, myself too, was
taught to call 911 for any crisis, including
a mental health crisis.
How is a call to 988 for those
crises different?
Yeah, 988 is part of a broader crisis
continuum, right?
Right, right, right, right.

(01:50:17):
These are people who are trained specifically to
deal with mental health crises.
The 988 counselors will almost surely be familiar
with those services and those teams.
They may be able to deploy those teams
to you directly and stay on the phone
with you while those teams are on their
way.

(01:50:38):
So sure, in some places, somebody would call
911 and perhaps that 911 center knows about
a mobile crisis response team in that same
region and they deploy that team as opposed
to just deploying ambulance or police.
I think in general, 988 centers have a
much richer knowledge and better relationships with mobile

(01:50:59):
crisis response teams and other kind of alternative
response models, as they're called, that can be
deployed, right?
Let's see, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
So this is the clip that got me,
it triggered me to figuring out what is,
why are they even doing this?
What is the rationale?

(01:51:20):
What do you think, what kind of propaganda
are they trying to slip?
What NLP kind of mechanism are they using?
What sort of subtext are they telling us
here with this bull crap?
Trump hates trans kids.
Well, no.
Well, that, maybe, but no.
This is the lead into, oh, you know,

(01:51:41):
we need more social workers and less police.
Let's defund the police and let's have more
social workers because 988 is better than 911
when you have a mental problem and most
crime is a mental problem.
So you have people that are out there
creating crimes, but all they need is a
hug.
Wow.
Clip three.
Yeah.

(01:52:01):
Whereas folks in 911 centers might have less
knowledge about those services.
And you and your colleagues, you set out
to determine a number of questions related to
who is calling 988.
And I wanna talk to you about the
piece you published in the journal JAMA Network
Open, where during a 30 month period, you
found more than 16 million calls, texts and

(01:52:22):
chats reached 988.
And one finding that stood out to us
was just the fact that 11% of
the contacts came from veterans who were then
transferred to the Veterans Crisis Line.
Do you have any further comment about the
fact that 11% of the contacts were
from veterans?
I think it can be perceived as a

(01:52:43):
positive finding.
The Veterans Crisis Line had existed for a
while, but I think the public facing communication
and marketing about the Veterans Crisis Line, probably
not as intense as the communications about 988.
So there are probably many veterans who didn't
really know about the Veterans Crisis Line and

(01:53:03):
learned about 988 and felt in crisis and
called and were very pleasantly surprised perhaps to
hear that option for pressing one.
And looking at the data, you found geographic
differences too, that some places in the US
were using 988 more than others.
What did you find?
Yeah, healthcare in general, but I would say

(01:53:24):
especially mental healthcare and policy is very state
-driven in the United States.
And within some states, there is also a
lot, it's county-driven, right?
So then we have county variation within states.
So we found that rates of 988 use
were much lower in the Southern parts of

(01:53:45):
the United States.
Okay.
Yeah, because in the Southern part of the
United States, they're not nuts.
Well, at least they're not the same kind
of nuts.
Well, we do have a lot of veterans
who need mental health.
Yeah, they probably get their care elsewhere because
that's brought up in, what clip are we

(01:54:05):
on?
The four.
Yes, please.
So when we ranked all the states in
terms of their rate of 988 use, really
big states like Florida and Texas were down
there at the very bottom.
And we don't really know the why from
our data, but we can speculate.
In prior work and work of others, we
found that more conservative folks generally report in

(01:54:28):
survey-based work being less likely to use
something like 988 and being less supportive of
it.
It might be a matter of values and
a matter of experience that in more conservative
parts of the US, there might be more
skepticism towards mental health treatment and counselors in

(01:54:51):
general.
Now, you did a really interesting second study
that was published in Health Affairs.
So what we did, we asked these 5
,000 US adults.
So we fielded this survey and we presented
people with- By the way, this guy's
voice is the opposite of that guy from
Tennessee.
This guy's voice is bad.

(01:55:12):
By the way, I deserve an award for
editing this clip.
No, I can hear your edits and yes,
they are good.
Adults.
So we fielded this survey and we presented
people with the question of, if you or
a loved one were experiencing suicidality or a
mental health crisis, how likely would you be
to turn to each one of these sources?
And we listed five sources, 988, which we

(01:55:34):
defined for them briefly in the survey, a
crisis line other than 988, a mental health
professional, like a psychologist or a social worker
or a psychiatrist, a friend or a family
member or someone in your religious network, right?
So we asked them this question and we
had them rate these things on a seven
-point Likert scale.
We found these five different groups.
And what were those five types of groups?

(01:55:56):
So we had this group that we called
Seek Help Nowhere.
We had this group we called Definitely Not
988, Yes, Friends and Family Distressed.
A group we called Seek Help Everywhere.
Group we called Seek Help Most Places, but
Not Religious Network.
And finally, a group we called Relatively Indifferent,
Not Distressed.
I found it interesting that the Definitely Not

(01:56:18):
988, but Yes, Friends and Family Distressed group
had the highest levels of recent psychological distress.
Why is that?
Oh, man.
I would say around here, people go to
the church.
They have all kinds of resources at the
church, including mental health people.
Well, it sounds a little fishy, their study.

(01:56:39):
The whole thing, it went on longer and
they went on and on and on and
on.
They're just trying to promote, but I think
the real subtext and the real message is
that these services are out there and they're
good, they work, and that we should have,
we should defund the police.
They never say that.
But that's worth it.
But when the segment where they talked about

(01:56:59):
9-1-1 versus 9-8-8, that
was the kicker.
That was like calling the cops if somebody's
freaking out, they're gonna jump off the ledge
or call a 9-8-8.
So, yes, that was that.
Now you have, you went from four to
six, so that's number five, I guess.

(01:57:22):
Well, let's talk also about the fact that
the Trump administration has cut funding to the
LGBTQI plus youth service of the line.
That is set to go away on Thursday,
July 17th.
So there you go.
What they did is they said it should
just be folded into the rest.
That's what they did, but okay.
17th, once that option goes away, what kind

(01:57:44):
of specialized mental health?
Here's what I don't understand.
I thought maybe I'm misunderstanding the service, but
I thought that as long as you let
your son become your daughter, they wouldn't commit
suicide.
If you didn't do that, that's when they
would commit suicide.
Wasn't that the big selling point?

(01:58:05):
That was the basic thesis.
Yeah, so.
Yeah, would you rather have a live daughter
or a dead son?
Support will still exist for LGBTQI plus young
people.
I think the silver lining is pre-988,
the Trevor Project has existed and will continue
to exist, and they have funding from other

(01:58:29):
sources as well.
That will remain an option.
Right, and for anyone who doesn't know, the
Trevor Project was one of the groups providing
24-7 support for 988 LGBTQI plus callers.
They handled about half of the contacts from
this group of people.
So zooming back out, just as we close,
what message do you think it sends that
988 does exist?

(01:58:51):
What does it do?
Yeah, no, I think it does a few
things.
I mean, one, I think it normalizes the
fact that humans experience feelings of crisis and
suicidality, and that the federal government supports this
lifeline or the safety net.
Suicidality.

(01:59:12):
Okay, so here's the, so she mentions the
Trevor Project, which I guess was already picking
up the calls from 988, and it will
continue to do so.
So it's got nothing to do with Trump.
It was a gratuitous slam, oh, Trump took
this away and that away.
He didn't take anything away.
He took officially, he took it out of

(01:59:33):
the process, but it was always covered by,
it's like the veteran stuff, which is covered
by various veterans groups, and they just pass
it on to them, and they go take
care of it, and they pass it on
to the Trevor group.
So this was a bogus story that served
two purposes.
One, to slam Trump, which is all NPR
wants to do, slam Trump A and defund
the police.

(01:59:53):
That was the whole point of it.
So that's what 988, so I just thought
it was an interesting propagandistic mechanism used for
a dual purpose.
Well, let's look at some more of that
propagandistic, i.e. advertising.
By the way, we didn't talk about it
in the last show, but there was a
pretty big story that GLP-1 drugs, your

(02:00:17):
Ozempic, et cetera, apparently now boosts testosterone levels.
We're getting so close to ED.
We're getting very, very, very close.
Your basic, that you're hoping.
Getting very close to erectile dysfunction solved by
Ozempic.
But this- You saved the best for
last.

(02:00:38):
Well, yeah, eventually, yeah.
That'll be the kicker.
Yeah, you roll it.
This is a rolling process.
You roll out your marketing mechanisms one after
the other.
You don't do it all at once.
Well, so- You can't shoot your wad.
So I was blown away by this story.

(02:01:00):
President Trump was talking about, hey, you know,
Coke's gonna put sugar back into Coca-Cola.
And so, of course, we have to not
only discredit sugar, but listen to where this
Big Pharma report from CNN with Dr. Elizabeth
Komen really leads to.
All right, more young women than ever are
getting breast cancer.

(02:01:21):
And there's a lot of advice online about
- What could it be?
What changed in the last five years?
I'm puzzled.
What can and cannot help to prevent it.
Are they myths or is there real science
behind them?
CNN's Sarah Seidner sat down with oncologist and
author Dr. Elizabeth Komen to find the truth

(02:01:41):
about cancer prevention.
Probably once a week, I hear someone say
to me, you know, sugar feeds cancer.
You really shouldn't eat that.
Is that true?
Sugar is not like going into the cancer
and feeding it, right?
It's like this one-way train with that

(02:02:02):
M&M that you put in your mouth.
And that also puts a lot of blame
on the patient.
What's in your mouth?
An M&M.
That being said, excessive sugar can lead to
excessive weight.
It can change your metabolic function.
And we know that that is not good
overall as being what's called a host to
cancer.
So cancer cells are living in your body
and we wanna make them inhospitable.

(02:02:23):
We wanna make your body and the environment
around it less hospitable to cancers.
So did you hear it?
Did you catch it?
Probably not, but maybe, what?
Okay, well, so there's two more clips here,
but, you know, well, sugar, you know, is
sugar is like, you know, it's not feeding
the cancer, but it can add to your
weight.

(02:02:43):
I asked a couple of different oncologists, is
there a cancer diet?
And I was told no twice, except when
it came to drinking alcohol.
Three oncologists said, do not drink alcohol.
I'm confused.
Is there a cancer diet or not?

(02:03:04):
If they're not supposed to drink alcohol, it
seems- Why are you yelling?
I mean, there's gotta be something to do
with nutrition.
It's a great, great question.
I'll tell you what I think- Oh,
oh, whoa.
That was not a great question.
What was it?
That was a great, great question.
I've never heard that before.
I thought you'd like that.
Supposed to drink alcohol, it seems to me
that there's gotta be something to do with

(02:03:25):
nutrition.
It's a great, great question.
I'll tell you what I think we know,
and then we'll hit the alcohol point as
well.
So we do know that maintaining more of
a plant-forward diet with less processed foods,
and what is processed foods?
I mean, there are all these quizzes online
about, is it processed?
Is it not processed?
In general, if it's got artificial dyes in
it, it's more likely to be processed.

(02:03:46):
If you can't pronounce a laundry list of
ingredients there, it's more likely to be processed
than not.
You want to think about whole foods, whole
grains, real foods, and limiting especially processed red
meats, the processed deli meats, the processed salami,
the pepperoni, things like that.
The other piece that we know that can
be helpful is alcohol.

(02:04:08):
We know that it's a carcinogen.
We know that there's an association.
The more you drink, the higher your risk.
However, this is not the same risk as
having a genetic mutation that leads to an
85% increased risk of cancer over your
lifetime.
But people ask me all the time, what
can I do that's within my control?
You can't control what your family history is.
You can control what you put in your

(02:04:30):
mouth and how you exercise and what you
drink.
And so we do know that there is
an increased association, not only with breast cancer,
but other types of cancers from alcohol consumption,
because it is a direct carcinogen.
Okay, so, and here I am like, wow,
you're talking about alcohol causing cancer.
And that was all just to keep me

(02:04:51):
going throughout this commercial message, because here is
where they bring it all home and they
bring it around to the first clip.
Does being overweight or being obese make you
more susceptible to cancer?
It does.
It does.
So we know that obesity, like tobacco consumption
or alcohol consumption is one modifiable risk factor.

(02:05:13):
It's just like drinking.
Or cancer.
But we know that it can also be
a tremendous battle to fight, right?
And so it's something that we really want
patients to talk openly with their doctors about,
about what are their options.
What are my options?
I'm overweight, what are my options?
Can I talk to you openly about that,
doctor?
What are their lifestyle options?
What are the medication options that they might

(02:05:34):
be able to have?
So that they can start to decrease their
risk from that excess weight.
Oh my God, this is my fault.
Like that's the first thing that jumped into
my head when I heard that.
Shame around that, that I think we have
to really just manage it and compassionately give
patients their options.
Their options.
Which is gonna be Ozempic.
Let's just shoot these two people.

(02:05:55):
Where'd you get this horrible clip?
That was CNN.
CNN.
Oh my, this is a native ad.
Yes.
Although it's done in a horrible wet manner.
It's a category ad.
It also brings the temperance thing back.
There's this alcohol nonsense.
By the way, when it comes to processed
foods, here's my tip.

(02:06:16):
Anything that has a barcode or comes in
a bag should not be consumed.
That's your processed food right there.
I have a, since you brought it back.
They have barcodes on peaches.
They stick them on.
We got a bunch of, we have a
lot of illegal aliens that work at the
produce place and they stick an individual little

(02:06:37):
barcode on each peach.
They had, the illegal aliens have a barcode,
I hear.
They stick them on them.
Yeah, it's on their butt.
So you brought back a segment and I'm
going to reintroduce it again.
This is the side effects.
Side effects.
Yeah.
You ready?
One of the great segments of The New

(02:06:57):
Agenda Show.
Here we go.
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(02:07:17):
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That's your taint.
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That sounds like a horrible medication.
It sounds terrible.
I would say that that was, the way
it was balanced, I couldn't hear it.
Yeah, I'm sad about that too, but they
don't actually want you to hear it.

(02:08:01):
They don't want you to hear it.
Good point.
Okay, one more from the big pharmas.
So it might be the middle of summer,
but now is actually the time to get
your kids vaccinated for back to school.
Health experts say, it's important to not wait
until the last minute to get those shots
either.
It takes a few weeks for children to
build their immunity up after the vaccines.
Our four to six year olds, when they're

(02:08:23):
first starting kindergarten or first grade, have a
variety of vaccines that may need to be
caught up on.
So they're prepared to go to school in
a healthy way and not have to miss
school due to vaccine preventable illness.
Some of the vaccines include tetanus, chickenpox, polio,
whooping cough, and measles.
There has been a recent rise in measles

(02:08:44):
cases because of a dip in children getting
those vaccines.
Health experts want all parents to know that
science stands behind the safety and efficacy of
traditional and seasonal vaccines.
Science, science stands behind it.
There it is, science.
Science stands behind these vaccines, parents.

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Oh, Lord, help us.
Hey, with that, I want to thank you
for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man
who put the C in the crisis line.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end, the one, the only Mr. John C.
DeVore.
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You don't want to be listening on anything
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Keep it modern, people.
Go to podcastapps, plural, .com.
Value for value, how we run the show.
We've been doing it for over 17 years.
Maybe on my new show, maybe I'll just
run ads.
See if that works better, run ads.
Yeah, well, you should.

(02:10:12):
I mean, you might as well, that way
you can do an A-B comparison.
Yeah, pharma ads, you know, get all kinds
of ads.
No, pharma for sure, that's where the money
is.
Tina was listening to- They're going to
go, let's face it, they're going to get
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They got to go, they got to go
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They got to go somewhere, they got to
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It's going to be you.
I can always get Farmer's Dog to advertise.

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Farmer's Dog, woof, woof.
Farmer's Dog.
What is that in the refrigerator?
Oh, you're an idiot to do that.
Oh, kick them out.
What are the other pod, you know, have
you listened to the radio?
I mean, also just network or cable news,
it's 20 minutes, an hour of ads.

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It's so boring.
You flip channels and it's ads, ads, ads,
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Everywhere's ads, it's just insane.
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brought us the artwork for episode 1782.
We titled that Circularity.
And this was a good one.
This was a Scaramanga original, which he also,
did you see him animate it later on
X?
He had an animated version of this.
No, I missed it.
Yeah, where, so this is, Scaramanga did a

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Annie with what we believe to be, might
be a typical Annie user.
And they're sitting on the couch together.
And in the animated version, Annie gets up
and walks out of frame.
And then the Annie user with the no
agenda all seeing eye t-shirt then eats
his huge sandwich and just chomps it down.
A Scaramanga man, it must have cost him

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$20 in credits.
I wonder what that does cost him.
I mean, Well, just ask him, he'll tell
you.
Scaramanga, what does it cost to animate something
like that?
Because you know, he started off with the
animation of us and the podcast awards.
And that must have cost him a lot
of money.
I mean, I don't know what it is.
Well, maybe he's rolling in dough.
No, maybe he is.

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Or maybe he's got a thing going on
where he's getting it free.
That's possible.
No, no, well, eventually it won't be free.
It was a good piece though.
At least it was the best one.
There were some other ones.
Let me see.
There was something I liked that you just
hated.
And we had to, let me see.
They go to Noah Jeff.

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Noah Artgenerator.com is where people upload all
of their artwork for every single show.
I mean, where people put their prompted artwork
up.
Oh, I liked the dingbat Annie.
You didn't like that one.
Yeah, I did.
You're right.
I just thought it was horrible looking.
Oh, okay.
Well, see, you hated it, I told you.
It was horrible.
I didn't hate it.

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That was it.
I'm not a hater.
There was a lot, for some reason, Richard
Page decided to put a lot of cell
phones in drawers.
I'm not sure.
We didn't talk about it.
There was you on OAN, which was horrible.
I love it when people go on X
say, yeah, I made a Coldplay version of

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you and John.
It's like, not even close.
It's horrible.
Not even close.
It's amazing.
Everything is so boring.
AI has killed art.
All you do is complain.
Yes, because it's killing art.
I liked the fat guy in the anime

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girl.
That was okay.
I mean, you could have done that with
Photoshop.
You didn't need to do AI.
This is absolutely true, but it would have
taken a lot longer.
That's the key.
That's what they're talking about.
That's what they've done.
They've caved to a time constraints.
People used to spend the whole show working

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And then when they see people come along
and just prompt something like screw, I'm not
doing this if I'm not getting chosen.
I get it.
It makes total sense.
Well, thank you, Scaramanga.
Good job.
It was certainly the best piece.
And again, it all comes down to the
concept, no matter how you execute it.
Oh, and by the way, he also is
on that little, on the pennant back there.

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Yeah.
He's got that little phrase that we talked
about.
Yes, I saw that, yes.
I mean- Very cute.
Yeah, that was cool.
That was cool.
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Wow good luck with that.
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from the from the meetup yes and one
of them I dropped off a Satoshi card
that I have to figure out how to
use Is it what's the name of the
card?

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I don't have it in front of me,
okay?
This is John Siebert.
He's in Albany actually, California.
Thank you for the no agenda I get
a lot His note is all bullet points,
okay, I didn't know it as funny.
I get a lot out of this show
It keeps me informed and entertained Found the

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show in 2000 I wish it had been
sooner.
I've been contributing to the show motion 2000
that's not possible We didn't start until 2007
But he says 2000 so he's been listening
somehow since 2000.
He's very wish he found it sooner.
Yeah, no kidding I've been contributing to the

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show mostly through podcasting 2.0 streams.
Ah there you go I Understand your doubts
on Bitcoin, but then he gives the sense
of thing with a bunch of gear that
you I'd need Hit up Adam for some
more sats over the years.
I've donated and he's got a number here
That's pretty astonishing, and we'll talk about that

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later so he came in with I accounted
for $393 and he'll be a executive Producer
and then the next one which is a
long note But it's about elevators and worth
reading and this is from the meetup is
$350 from Lawrence Wolfe and he's in Oakland.

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Mm-hmm And this is a I read
I saw there's no I said off too
long I'm not gonna read this and I
started reading it Well say this is the
kind of information you can get on the
no agenda show and nowhere else I as
an Elevator mechanic with over 18 years of

(02:21:16):
experience.
I wanted to come comment on Adams trip
to New York Ah, it is a major
observation the automated elevators.
Yes the mode of elevator dispatching that your
experience is known as destination dispatch Wow, yeah,
the idea has been around for a long
time I remember was in diehard 1988 when

(02:21:36):
John McLean walks into a then the Nakatomi
Plaza looks up to his wife's address and
kiosk and is then directed to the proper
elevator Its purpose is people flow control and
security It makes sense at the locate at
locations such as hotels and higher security office
buildings.
Yes, it negates the need for a Car

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call button as you are directed by the
hall dispatch controller Only one button is that
the lobby is the lobby call button?
I seem to remember John saying that maybe
the reason for it was to prevent kids
from pushing all the buttons Now this is
where this is the most interesting part of

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the note Nobody knows this This is actually
prevented by another feature known as anti-nuisance
The elevator has a sensor known as a
load weigher That determines how much capacity has
been attained in the car if too many
buttons are pushed for the load Detected by

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the load weigher the controller will cancel those
placed calls Some you know, they weigh and
they say wait, there's not a hundred people
on this thing and I hope this elevated
your Understanding he says as a pun He's
sir Lawrence of dystopia the baronet of Maxwell
Park.
Well, it's kind of interesting because I got

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a note two shows ago from one of
our producers a second and he Had a
different explanation for the by the way It
is of course bullcrap because you have to
press instead of pressing one button and then
a button on the inside you have to
Say I want to go somewhere then you

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have to type in the floor you want
to go to so it's at minimum It's
one extra button push And let me see
if I can find this It was one
of our one of our producers I think
in Australia and he said no no the
reason for this is so that They can

(02:23:43):
put in less elevators which costs which is
a huge cost savings So yes, it does
help traffic flow a little bit But only
so it really doesn't give you any benefit
It just the the benefit is they don't
have to put in six elevators.
They can put in four elevators So it
doesn't really save you any time Whatever the

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case.
Yes, whatever the case exactly.
It's a joke.
Yeah, it is Uh, sir Kojen, maybe he
came in with 350.
Thank you very much.
Put him on a list sir Co you
have to give him to me later.
I will okay, sir.
Kojen National Park, New Jersey 34375 no karma
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Thank you.
Oh I'm up again.
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Wieldon in Murray, Nebraska 200 bucks.
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in the morning to you my fine sirs.
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I was listening to episode 1780 and heard

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your discussion on pots I had recently heard
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The opp is upon us Well, a lot
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of that I went and listened to the
whole thing What a sad and sorry state
our nation is in the public has allowed
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is right about AI But shall abstain from
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Thank you to these execs and associate executive
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my gosh, can you see that juice?

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Crashing all over the place crashing crashing crashing
crashing crashing What you got JCV what else
got a couple of things on the list
So what do you got like and not
you play this the juice clip?
I'm always thinking she's that poor woman.
She should have been back.
She should they should have kept her on

(02:34:03):
on juice on this on the the home
shopping You're right.
I forgot about that Cancer research cut back
and this is another one of these things
Oh Trump Trump Trump Trump's fault.
Yeah, the industry does not want to pick
up the tab for them Where the the

(02:34:24):
research the taxpayers pay for and they benefit
from we don't benefit from it.
We get charged money Yes, the taxpayers get
nothing out of this They get gypped and
meanwhile the which is a term that the
gypsies were named after not the other way
around so I can say gypped We get
gypped and and nobody picked nobody steps up

(02:34:45):
We have to step up the taxpayers have
to step up for everything is bullcrap We
had a note from one of our producers
going about yeah, you take on this.
Yes your take in particular.
I think yeah Well, my take is what
you just heard.
I'm not Changing you're not changing it Listen
to the PBS take for decades the National
Cancer Institute or NCI has spearheaded breakthrough advancements

(02:35:08):
against the disease Since the 1990s cancer deaths
have been reduced by a third Uplifting report
you got here Joe, but now the world's
premier Cancer Institute is in the midst of
a fierce battle over its future William Brangham
spoke with the retina Prada on of KFF
health news Ruchina Pradhan, thank you so much

(02:35:28):
for being here Can you help us understand
the scale of the cuts that are being
made at the National Cancer Institute?
And are they falling in particular areas or
regions of that Institute based on what we
have heard from?
scientists who are currently still at NCI and
ones who have left is that the Cuts
and the upheaval overall that is happening to

(02:35:51):
this agency are unprecedented They have never seen
anything like it there are people who are
leaving and also being cut that work on
various aspects of cancer research and Communication and
the second thing is research money is being
cut at NCI and across the board at
the NIH So what you're seeing is very

(02:36:11):
rapid escalation in the amount of money that
is being trimmed For studying all sorts of
in their interventions right to reduce cancer mortality
and morbidity in this country How does the
Trump administration explain that hold on a second?
We just heard that if you stop drinking
alcohol and take ozempic, you're gonna be okay

(02:36:32):
What more research something else she said in
that little bit which was Research and Communication.
No, this is about the cuts of the
PR people marketing.
Yeah the marketing people Hmm We've heard this
before because I think when Kennedy came in

(02:36:54):
if they didn't like the way they were
messaging and they were doing Websites and they
were telling people of this and that and
the other thing and they got rid of
most of the PR people I mean the
State Department has thousands of PR people this
the number of PR people that work in
the government get paid paid Well, it's crazy.
It's just outrageous.
I mean, they're just doing everything, you know,
they're just that's the communications part Yeah, can't

(02:37:16):
they just use AI for that?
Well, let's hope not how does the Trump
administration explain that because it seems like Funding
cancer research and cures for cancer seems like
a no-brainer in any administration the Trump
administration In response to our story They actually
said that it was misleading and it's a

(02:37:38):
biased narrative and that they are essentially Refocusing
the National Cancer Institute's work and it represents
a necessary Transformation and that the Department of
Health and Human Services, which is where NCI
ultimately sits still values and plans to prioritize
Research into cancer and other health conditions.

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And so that is what they are saying.
Essentially.
It's necessary Under the administration's policies and to
sort of realign what NCI is doing Hmm.
Yeah, in other words for there's two things
about this report classic PBS No numbers are
given what numbers were we talking about they
took a dollar away ten dollars away one

(02:38:19):
percent I mean, what did they take away?
They never says and then they say the
real is a reorg So the reorg which
got rid of all the communications people all
the PR people's seems to me is is
what it was all about We're spending too
much money on PR.
Let's put it toward real actual research.
How about that for an idea?
And no, no, no, she's not buying into

(02:38:40):
it All right onward and from talking to
researchers and and clinicians within the NCI What
if they said to you about what the
impact of these cuts has been?
They say that it is harming research Severely,
we have one scientist saying that people will

(02:39:02):
die that people will die Die because there
are life-saving efforts that are being curtailed
at this moment I think the other thing
that's really important to underscore is so many
people we talked to inside the government and
even outside the government said it is Inexplicable
why this is being done They don't understand

(02:39:24):
the aim the objective because we have seen
so much Progress in the fight against cancer
in this country and around the world But
that being said it is still the nation's
second leading cause of death only heart disease
Surpasses it right in 2023, which is the
most recent data We have over 600,000

(02:39:46):
people in the US died from cancer And
we still have millions of people that are
diagnosed with it every year And so there's
clearly still a lot of work to be
done and NCI has contributed an almost immeasurable
amount for Reducing cancer deaths in this country,
but what if it's immeasurable, what is the
amount?

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Though it's immeasurable.
You can't measure it.
That's again.
It's immeasurable With what with what?
Quiet quiet Is there some drug that I'm
unaware of that I should be taking that
they Mentioned she's the people who will die.
This is the talking point that Democrats for

(02:40:27):
everything USAID is having money taken away.
People are gonna die.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know this is this is quite annoying.
They use this a lot Elizabeth Warren does
it all the time now People will die
people will die people will die.
They will die people will die Yeah, people
die All right.
All right.

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Does this also impact current cases people who
are living with cancer?
Now being treated for their cancer today I
think it does as part of Carried out
earlier this year across the department and many
important agencies among the people who lost their

(02:41:08):
jobs Were most of the workers inside of
NCI's communications office Emanating really important health important
health information that includes information like don't drink
alcohol and take ozempic Is found on cancer
.gov which is a website that is used
widely in this country by cancer patients and

(02:41:30):
their families and also updating resources that physicians
and other Clinicians who care for cancer patients
rely on with the latest research about a
particular disease or particular type of Malignancy and
so the fact that those resources are not
being updated because most of the workers were

(02:41:50):
fired Will have an immediate impact on cancer
patients who are looking for information about Treatments
and research to help inform their care.
I'll get a WordPress blog.
Listen to this So I go to cancer
.gov and there's two big big Areas right
the top of this page on the left

(02:42:10):
for people affected by cancer and on the
right for researchers Support for the best science
underpins everything NCI does Explore our resources to
help researchers conduct their work and apply for
funding and training opportunities And then they have
what?
Articles, why are cancer diagnosis rising in people
under age 50 only if only you could

(02:42:32):
figure out what changed Rapid genetics, I don't
know man Get answers So, okay, so I
need web developers, I guess Whatever.
All right Last clip.

(02:42:53):
Oh, I'm sorry.
Last clip is number four Does this also
impact?
current cases people who are Living with cancer
now being treated for their cancer today.
I think it does as part of That
was number four then then the we've played

(02:43:14):
Well, I have a report from UK Which
I thought was interesting that trying to do
this everywhere in the world the UK Appears
not quite there yet, but appears to have
pushed it through in the United Kingdom They
can work pay taxes and serve in the
military now 16 and 17 year olds might
be able to vote in the next general

(02:43:34):
election These students are cautiously optimistic about the
decision.
I'm happy about it Because it's always really
annoying watching like older people vote and then
but there's not realistically it's not going to
affect them It's gonna affect our futures.
So Yeah, I'm happy about it But it
is like that small worry about like people
who are just gonna like take their parents

(02:43:55):
opinions The move fulfills a campaign pledged by
the Labour government and brings the whole of
the United Kingdom in line with Scotland and
Wales Who have already made the change?
Some conservative critics have questioned whether young people
should be able to vote when they aren't
deemed old enough to get married or stand
for election But specialists say teens are well

(02:44:16):
-informed We know from where the countries where
this is introduced is that actually 16 17
was making decisions of an equal quality Older
voters young people have also expressed concern about
misinformation on social media.
I think it's definitely a problem Like I
know lots of people who are really very
impressionable But I think it is a small

(02:44:37):
minority of people that will actually get affected
by far-right or far-left Social media
the government announced a proposal on Thursday as
part of a sweeping reform to the democratic
system It will also include extending acceptable forms
of ID Improving postal votes and clamping down
on rules on political donations But first it
will have to be scrutinized by the Parliament

(02:44:59):
It's gonna be very interesting how that unpacks
if they actually get it through 16 year
olds, I don't know.
It seems like 16.
I don't like it.
No, I'm an old fart.
I don't like it 16 years don't know
Jack Okay, they're just gonna you know, they're
gonna no no, although it could they could

(02:45:20):
be exploited well Yeah, that's I think that's
the I mean that's the idea the idea
is to exploit them No, no social media
we'll hire back some of those web people
Yeah, I have a little Side track.
I'm gonna go on.
Mm-hmm.
Just one clip.
This is Alex I think is Wilkins is
her name Alexis Wilkins the girl who is

(02:45:43):
the Suspicious Mossad agent a 26 year old.
Oh, this is who?
The Patel is dating her Patel's date.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, and she's she's now she's a Mossad
agent Well, this is what they're saying.
Oh, okay.
In fact, this guy is dude this guy
Stein.
I think his name Stein I can remember

(02:46:04):
who is he Brooke?
She brings him on the show.
She's doing her her show remote.
She has a show Oh, she has a
yes.
She has a podcast Highly scripted.
I've seen her.
She's oh, it's it it.
Yes It's not She's a Hangout so she's

(02:46:25):
at a turning point USA.
They have a media segment.
I guess they're all bearers podcasting from there
I want to talk about that for a
second After we played this clip of her
she brings this guy on who talks about
her being she's been you know Kicked to
the curb as a spy and he has
to and they go and they go back
and forth with their with their lively Banter

(02:46:47):
okay.
Hello everyone.
Welcome to the Rumbles.
Oh, no This is the this is what
we do with my new podcast Hello everyone,
welcome to the rumble studio at a SAS
turning point USA here in Tampa, Florida We
are so happy to be here.

(02:47:07):
I'm Alexis Wilkins if you've watched the show
before you know This is between the headlines.
We took a brief hiatus, but we are
so back moving to a live stream format
I'm very excited to be doing it.
I have with me Alexis I just want
to say thank you for having me but
it's Alex Stein Stein 99 the guy who

(02:47:27):
goes into the into the council City Council
meetings That guy yeah that guy I Just
want to say thank you for having me
but you got canceled this week and I
kind of got canceled yesterday And I think
it got revealed that you and I are
both Masada agents working for Benjamin Netanyahu.
So we're toast for Venice I think we

(02:47:49):
have to retire It's it's an internet meltdown,
but you know, it's unfair and I see
the attacks on you because like obviously cash
is a very powerful guy But this is
what's unfair.
They came after me too.
Like when my mom died, you know, they
said that I killed my mom It is
really bad, but my point is like with
the Internet, it doesn't even matter what you
say or do You're going to find a

(02:48:09):
conspiracy theorist and I'm a conspiracy theorist to
create a conspiracy about you and share it
on the Internet You know, it's just because
you're well known it's in the water and
it's it's funny because coming from someone who
you know, obviously there's a lot of context
here of You know, you know, you know
what's going on in our country?
Yeah, and And I understand that people need

(02:48:30):
a villain I do get it That's the
thing is like they want anything and so
they'll pretend that I'm the CEO of Prager
you which I'm very That's what I see.
I see they share that thing where I
said that and what did you even work
for Prager you that long?
I mean, I mean short-form content.

(02:48:50):
I mean you made some videos for him
But once again Dennis Prager is a great
guy because he's Jewish now.
You're a Masada spy so it's just kind
of a weird thing where if you even
have one crumb do you work for a
Jewish guy now that made You work for
Asia and listen, I hate that It's always
a conspiracy.
There's like I hate my last name Stein
actually was baptized.
I'm actually a Christian everybody's like, oh, you're

(02:49:11):
this Jewish Agent and I I don't like
that.
I Apologize for the invention of podcasting you
should Because this is actually the typical today's
typical podcast.
Yeah.
Yeah A couple gas bags going on and
on So so the question so you went

(02:49:38):
to an event where chart now Charlie Kirk
to me is an interesting character because he
is One of the great self promoters of
our day He's a great speaker he's a
marketing genius and I don't care much for
what he's up to but he's a marketing
genius and he and I and you saw

(02:49:59):
him speak and you say is a great
speaker and I can believe that because he
Spends all his time Honing his skills.
Mm-hmm, and he's also a good debater
because he's a master debater as a matter
of fact.
Yes, he is Because he gets you know,
he does all these these viral He creates
his own viral videos of him slamming some
poor asshole that comes up and argues Well,

(02:50:21):
this is this is really his thing is
where he went to college campuses and just
went yeah He's the change my mind guy.
No, no, no, but no I mean he
is he's the real change my mind the
guy who sits at the table says change
my mind Which you know, that's Crowder ugly
change my mind kind of thing.
That's a Crowder Yeah Crowder, but I think

(02:50:42):
this is the real because he argues He
puts he's just really outstanding.
But you say he flies around in a
private jet He's you know, because the guy's
third 27 28 29, maybe I don't know
how old he is, but this guy's remarkable
But why is he get he gets everybody
his attention does do people get paid to

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speak at his events?
No People want to be seen at his
events.
He so a Lot of people here in
Fredericksburg.
In fact, we've been invited We couldn't go
but we invited we in fact, we got
an invitation from some people at boot ranch
number boot ranch Boot ranch the bar.

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No boot ranch the the the the eight
million dollar homes at boot ranch was 20
Oh grants that area with all those.
Yeah in place.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah so turning point USA really became the
thing for wealthy people to donate money to
because it was going to be the youth

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and I think it Arguably was very successful
the youth that were going to change America
And to be fair about it I think
putting money into a group that organizes youth
the way Charlie Kirk does it is a
lot better than anything the the Democrat Party
does to organize youth, you know by Cutting

(02:52:04):
off their genitals and giving them blue hair
and putting them on tick-tock so you
can retweet them What happened to your nose
ring?
Yeah And of course, he has a very
strong Biblical element to him because the guy
can quote scripture like nobody I've ever seen.
Yeah, he's memorized the Bible He's really good
at it any but he also understands it
so when he when he comes and you

(02:52:25):
don't want to get into a debate over
scripture with Charlie Kirk and Yes, and and
he's very open about the jet because he
does so many events I think he's on
the road 200 days out of the year
and he goes from event to event to
event and so I don't think people are
getting paid to show up at the event,
but the Turning point USA.

(02:52:45):
We could probably look him up Let's take
a look at what?
What what turning point brings in Lots a
lot of money.
Yeah a lot of MP on they have
extra What do you call it?
Here?
Let me see TP.
Let me see if it's under TP USA
You know, here it is.

(02:53:05):
Whoo There you go Gross receipts want to
take a stab 135 million no, I know
86 million 86 million Mm-hmm 750 grassroots
activists you know, you can pay an extra
10 grand you get to have dinner with

(02:53:25):
Charlie and Now I don't I don't think
they pay people like Candace because she's she
speaks at a lot of these Candace Owens
But you want to be you want to
be seen speaking at turning point USA You
do and so they I'm sure they fly
them in put them up take care of
them And it's without a doubt, it's it's

(02:53:47):
a very very successful group not just for
you know For them doing what they do,
but politically I think it's a big deal
Maybe I'm not convinced.
What do you mean?
I am convinced this guy's doing a hell
of a job of marketing and selling and
managing This is a management issue to that

(02:54:07):
dad dad dad gum Charlie Kirk.
He's He's no slouch Hey, and yeah, I
want you to get that actually I was
somebody did a calculation in the one time
I was I'm good saying what about when
do you get when you start using a
private jet is when you get to 50
million?
Yeah, that's probably about right And then you

(02:54:28):
use private jet Way beyond that.
Hey, and it's expensed.
So yeah.
No, it's it's a write-off, of course
Um What is this NPR food podcast anything
with podcasting right now?
I'm ready for it.
I want to maybe I should start a
food podcast I think I'm more likely to
do that This is a I have two

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ads.
These are two NPR ads for would sound
like terrible podcasts And so I clipped these
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We've got tip of the day coming up.
We do have Dame's nights.
We got some PhDs got meetup reports and
John is now going to thank the rest

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of our value for value supporters $50 and
above And before I do that, I'm gonna
thank a couple of the donors from the
yes, of course from the meetup on the
meetup She came in with lesser amounts Including
Will James Robertson who's got him He has
some three by five cards that he sent

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Including the one he wrote on they have
stripes across them.
There's just these dynamite cards.
I'd like to know where he got him
Hmm, it's a little card in here.
We should have asked him How I didn't
notice because it was in an envelope sealed
envelope with a note inside like you're supposed
to do Okay, so I got home.
I found him.
Thank you for your quality podcast He says
I'm always informed and entertained came in with

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Then we have Sir Zol bat looks like
sir Zol bat came in with a hundred
and hit Zol bat Zol bat Do John
and Adam hundred ten bucks, he's obviously a
sir because he's got the seal on the
back of the envelope Then the lovely Angela

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Garcia came in with a hundred dollars she
also makes miniatures and then Makes miniatures of
what she makes little she's somehow during kovat.
She got into this She makes these little
art pieces that are tiny Miniatures, it's like
she uses tweezers and a microscope and she

(02:59:31):
makes art.
Oh, that's kind of cool Yeah, I told
her that she should sell it to it
says nut balls who build these doll houses.
Yeah There you go recalcitrant Steve came in
with 51 50 But he has a total
that gives his wife a dame hood and
I have to read the note obviously because
the dame hood involved I hope this note

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finds you well after traveling from Club Mallard
to John's house This JCD meetup donation would
have put me over the top for baronet
But instead I wanted to do a switcheroo
and credit my wife rose with a dame
hood Please dame her dream girl rose of
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We are actually ever on the list He

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needs though.
She needs a de douching You've been de
douched So he says we've been married 18
years in December God willing and we've never
had a fight She's been the goal of
buying a house on New Year's Day 2025
and she made it happen We bought our
new place just over a month and a

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half ago.
She's my designated drivers for many JCD meetups.
I Don't know why he needs one and
listens to the show on our road trips.
She doesn't come into the meetups She's the
best wife and mother in the world I
love you with all my heart sweetheart and
at the roundtable we have to write these
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Tremina wait hook and ladder Yeah, I've never
heard of it either hook and ladder what?
diverts Tremina, it's a it's a gorgeous spicy
grape That makes a beautiful white wine Tremina,
okay diverts Tremina Filipino lumpia and some lightly

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I wasn't ready for that.
No.
I'm sorry F-35 and a boogity boogity

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Second there we go That over there.
I had everything all set up you screwed
me up, and you don't even like the
boogity boogity you in fact You don't I
don't I think you did just despite me
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the CEO of in and out burger being
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I just decide good.
I just decided Well yeah strike well, there's

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the strike It's a Bitcoin donation for Who
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bank account yet.
Maybe they're holding the money.
I have no idea, but it's not in
$20 and 84 cents Travis Moore in Gibbonsville,
North Carolina 100 that's a birthday donation gold
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He says I said that in North Carolina

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Oh Leroy.
I'm sorry Sir Leroy in Dotham, Alabama 8009
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80 that's a genetic solution officially.
Yeah Nathan in Toronto, Ontario 6362 That's a
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Sir.
Kevin O'Brien in Chicago a 6006 strike
again another strike donation and from someone We
think you have to I don't know how
we're gonna do these which probably just accumulate
them and use But they need to do
is they need to send us a note.
No, they do They need to send us
our name their names.
Yeah, you send a note with a name,
please.

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But then yeah They have to associate with
a very specific amount of money.
It's very possible.
They know how to do it They just
aren't doing it.
They just like here's to take my money,
but what's your problem?
Well, I'm saying if you have strike strike
strike on the spreadsheet just put them into
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Oh, okay Yeah one listing Dean Roker 55

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10 Betty boo in Dayton 5272 Steve Hall
5272 John Rochester, New York 5272 Dame Lacey
5272 she's in Lake Mills, Wisconsin Scott Lavender
In Montgomery, Texas 50.
Oh, these are 50s.

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Okay, we're at the 50s Doing one at
a time name and locations starting with Scott
and Terrence Boyer in Tuscola Illinois, I never
heard of that place Andrew goosick in Greensboro,
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of people emailed me about this Ear mold.
Yeah, people are very concerned.
Well, don't wear headphones.
You won't wear out to worry about it
But you know, you could Renee you could
wear in ear Headphones you won't get ear
mold.
Yeah We have an inventor in our midst
who's done some made with mams are gonna
cost a fortune but he's usually shows up

(03:06:28):
at the meetups with his with his attractive
Cohort and they didn't show up.
Ah The meetups are running a hell in
a handbasket Renee burn hearts gruter in st.
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list or he it's probably he Renee Renee
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today David Kekta end of show mixer extraordinaire
happy birthday to his girlfriend Rose Shin turns

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we have three PhDs that we are handing

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out that you better get in on this
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this item quick because we're running out It's
gonna be over what end of this month.
Is that when the PhD?
Yeah, I got two shows left So Mike
Sylvia and Adam Adam Munziger all become PhDs
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you go to know agenda rings calm Let
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And we will gladly send that out to
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Yeah, I got a big blade I Rose
Sylvia Thomas Flanagan McCall and Mike step up
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protector of our troops Sir Finn McCool mountain
man and sir Mike the taco the privileged
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We've got hookers and blow rim boys and
Tramina Filipino lumpia and lightly salted pistachio along
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the no agenda nights and dames They
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they're dropping off so you better get out
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This is sir Rick Alston crazy see the

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second at the seventh Jcd meetup and we're
passing penis wine aerators all around this place
Hold on a second.
You did not tell me about the penis
wine aerators Yeah We have a woman who's
a wine expert Cynthia Kirk she was there

(03:11:02):
with these I would say phallic wine aerators
and she by the way I Got into
a discussion with her about wine because when
you're you get someone who claims to be
a wine expert There was one a decant
You do the back-and-forth with them
to see how good they are.
She's knows wine.
She's very talented Wine drinker taster and she

(03:11:24):
works for a winery.
So that's she has a palace.
He has a good palate.
I would think so Mm-hmm.
I'm just guessing.
I mean we didn't drink wine, but if
she sounds like she knows what she's talking
about So she's a good wine person but
she's also got this company called naughty and
she makes this kind of these these wine
aerators that are shaped like a phallus and

(03:11:47):
the wine and Erase the wine, you know,
you stick it in a bottle.
Yes It was the hit of the show.
It sounds like it.
It sounds like it was it's it's it's
rude Yes, I remember it's a party product
as well as you have a dinner party
you put that you do the one with
this thing And they're all I see what
you're doing It's a rubber No, I'm sorry.

(03:12:09):
It reminds me of do you ever seen
these glasses these?
Groucho Marx glasses with the eyebrows instead of
the big giant nose.
It's a big dick.
Have you seen those?
Level that we're I got you.
Hey, so Robertson of two sticks and I'm
glad to be here.
Thank you This is sir.
Lawrence of dystopia baronet of Maxwell Park.

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I bought one of those penises and I'm
very satisfied What she was selling him Yes,
she had a few to sell yeah goodness
That's what you want.
They name been Duke of San Francisco.
I'm beginning to have penis envy right now
Joe Walden Roth Idaho glad to be here
Yeah, look, I mean, this is sir.
Julian Baron of Santa Cruz Mountains hanging out

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with the new grand star of OAN Sir
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I finally found my car keys and I
made it to the meetup Sir Aaron night
of the strawberry fog ITM Scott Cunningham for
Mountain View in the morning Sir Montauk enjoying
a nice day at Club and Mallard Angela

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Garcia from San Francisco in the morning Yeah,
I'm trying to escape these guys are all
nuts in the morning everybody In the morning
All right, Fort Wayne, Indiana had a meetup.
Here's their report Adam and John.
This is Shannon from Fort Wayne We hope

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this meetup finds you.
Well, everybody here's having a good time in
the morning Dame Trinity having great time at
Don Hall's Tavern in the morning John and
Adam sir PBR street gang Hey Adam keep
up the faith No agenda John.
It wouldn't hurt you to go to mass
The Ohio bloke just checking in in Fort

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Wayne, Indiana and the bloke's Sheila from Hicksville,
Ohio Here with you in Fort Wayne, Indiana,
too.
This is Jared.
I really like Hicksville, Ohio Thank you for
your courage.
There's Mike Fort Wayne checked everyone's browser history.
Everyone's good to go.
No spooks here today foam finger number one
And our final meetup report comes from New

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York City The New York City No agenda
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July 21st.
What?
Thank you, Lord Coming to you from New
York City I'm the only one with the
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but I'm still pretty sure in New York
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We're at the Roosevelt Hotel for the New
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Thank you to all the producers from plug
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I'm the bartender.
I just served the no agenda crew today.
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got your server in there very good Those
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They how many people we talking about one
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all right what houses so use about ten
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I'm not doing any more AI.
That's not AI okay I'm gonna listen to
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And where are we where where's my dude?
Well, we're actually podcast We're not doing where's
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1783 - "Dadgum"

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