1786 - "Best Exit Strategies" - No Agenda Show

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Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Thursday, July 31st, 2025.
This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1786.
This is no agenda.
Looking for the exit and broadcasting almost live
from the heart of the Texas Hill Country
here in FEMA Region Number 6.
In the morning, everybody.

(00:21):
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where I'm also
almost live, I'm John C.
Dvorak.
In the morning.
I know a lot of people who are
looking forward to this episode for a very
long time.
Well, you've been high on this episode for
some time.
Because- I think it is maybe the
funniest episode we've ever played.

(00:42):
I really think so.
And right off the bat, I gotta give
props to Sir Deenonymous from Clip Genie, noagenda
.clipgenie.com, also known as bingit.io. Because
ever since we introduced bingit.io, it's just

(01:04):
been an amazing experience for people to go
in and just think of ways that they
can put together a best-of show.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, especially if you put in exit strategy
search.
Yeah.
Boom, a show.
Exactly.
You got a show.
So, John Jensen, Circumference, he did exactly that.

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And he put this together a while back.
You know, it's like, hey, you know, I've
got a good idea.
I played some of these, like the first
couple of clips for Tina.
And she doesn't know all of our stuff.
She's only been around for 10 years.
We had seven years before that she knows
nothing about.
She was cracking up.
She had never heard of- These dumb

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ideas.
I mean, yes, you're right.
The dumb ideas.
Exactly.
But are they really?
Are they really?
A lot of them, I think, are moneymakers.
Maybe we should just explain to people.
I mean, do you even know how this
started?
How we started looking for exit strategies?
I think it started off as a lark.

(02:11):
I think it was a punchline to something
one of the other, either you said or
I said, one of us said, the other
one encountered with, oh, there's an exit strategy.
Because exit strategy is a term that's used
a lot in Silicon Valley.
We're both familiar with the lingo.
And so we picked it up.
And then we started, you know, somebody said
it first.
Either one of us could have been.

(02:32):
I'm not sure.
But then it became a running gag.
No, here's what I think happened.
And it started early on, very early on.
Where we were looking at this and we're
saying, you know, we're working so- I
think it must have been, Mevio must have,
it might have even been pod show days.
I don't know.
We must have been sitting there.
No, you don't think it was pod show

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days?
It was Mevio?
Yeah.
I think we were both talking about, you
know, we got this show, but how do
we punch out of this?
You know, it's like the whole idea in
Silicon Valley is you have an exit.
You got an IPO.
You're going to get acquired.
You're going to sell.
Yeah, exit strategy.
And yeah, and we realized that there's no
way to have an exit strategy for a

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podcast.
You just do it until you die.
Or at least one of us dies.
Until you come up with an exit strategy.
Or an exit strategy.
And the first one we came up with
was a doozy.
Get your shorts on.
Get ready for exit strategy number one.
We have a UPS guy.

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There's been my UPS guy who did not
during the Christmas Eve.
Now there's a bunch of slackers that came
in.
Our normal UPS guy was this good-looking
male model-looking guy.
Sometimes he doesn't deliver the packages until like
8.30. Yeah, same here.
8 or 9.
They're still working, I know.
Well, just because he's stopping off a lot
of places.

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This guy looks like he's the worst for
wear.
He's got at least five or six women
that demand him come in for cookies and
tea.
Hey, maybe that is our exit strategy.
That sounds like a good gig.
Drive around all day in shorts.

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She's into bookbinding and fishing.
Let her lure you into a private dance.
Next on the No Gender stage comes everyone's
fantasy girl, Lily Satou, the anime poster girl.
Those eyes are huge.
Give it up for Lily.
Looky over here, coming up to stage three.
Make her welcome.

(04:58):
Put those hands together and give it up
for Sabine.
This princess recently won an amateur night competition
at the Club Rendezvous.
But as you can see, there's no way
she's an amateur.
Cheer on with heart and gratitude, boys.
It's Sabine.
Is that it?
Yeah, that's it.
Four.
All right, good.
Good work.

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Yeah, it's my exit strategy.
I'm going to work a lot of these
places.
Good script.
I like the script.
The writing was good this time.
Very nice.
Put music, they pump the music into select
barrels of whiskey.
They've got a Michael Jackson barrel, the Led
Zeppelin barrel.
And they believe that the sound vibrations expand
and contract the wood.

(05:40):
And then it molds different tastes.
The bluegrass and nutcracker ballet barrels are most
popular.
They test better, believe it or not, than
non-musical whiskey.
I think that Zeppelin stuff is probably pretty
good.
Oh, OK.

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Everybody bought into this one.
We could do this.
We could do this.
We could make water.
It's pure water.
So we can bring in that guy who
does the water crystals.
You know, when you put a note, love
underneath the bottle, then the crystals look all
beautiful.
If you put a note, you know, no
note or hate, then the crystals, they look
all maligned and all deformed.
And we can have our beautiful, wonderful, no

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agenda water, which 17 virgins stood around and
said love to for 24 hours.
I think it's a plan.
It's our exit strategy.
Yeah, baby.
Exit strategy.
As pathetic as it sounds, it's about the
best we got.

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All right, everybody.
We would not be the no agenda show
if I didn't have a product idea.
You ready?
I'm listening.
I just I'm always listening for this.
Now, this product already exists, is very effective
to make.
We could make it even as an app.
I ordered an actual physical product because I
don't have a phone with apps anymore.
I ordered the Dog Dazer 2, Mark 2.

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And this is a small device that emits
a 25 kilohertz tone of incredible annoyance to
the dogs.
So they do not like that tone.
So if I'm in a restaurant, there's a
dog there.
It's going to go on.
It's just going to go on my key
chain.
No one can hear it.
You cannot hear it.
I mean, if you had a spectrum analyzer,
you could see if you're over 10 years
old, you can barely hear anything over 15.

(07:28):
Yeah, you don't even like your birthday.
I mean, it cares.
But I think that this could be the
no agenda, you know, dog taser or.
This is the best idea you've had for
months.
Now it can be an app.
We could make it an app.
There's tons of apps.
I don't know if those little things will
play that note.
Sure, they will.

(07:49):
I don't think so.
What, a smartphone?
I don't think a smartphone has a speaker
that can nail 25,000 hertz.
Hmm.
Distance will become a problem for sure.
Distance is a problem.
That's why I like, you know, just that
you need a dedicated, the dedicated device.

(08:10):
Weaker.
Yeah, a device.
It should be a key chain.
It's just a key chain.
And yeah, the speaker does not have to
be that big.
Just has to be high quality.
It can hit that note.
Piezo.
And yeah, piezo.
Piezo.
You say piezo.
I say piezo.
Um, but I, I'm, I'm very excited about
bringing this to market.
I think we should do a Kickstarter.

(08:31):
This may be our exit strategy.
What is a long been your assertion?
Which is now a show assertion at this
point is North Korea is this trying to
set itself up as a tourist attraction, tourist
trap, if you will.
Yes.
And, and this came to you how many
years ago?
Five, six, six years ago.

(08:52):
The key thing I felt about the whole
journey is that North Korea, I felt as
though they were preparing and they wanted to
open up to the rest of the world
because they've had to.
They spent all their money on these missiles
and all that.
The farming, the, the agricultural and food supplies
are very, very scarce out in the countryside.

(09:13):
So now they've got to get something back.
And therefore they're building great tourist resorts.
We saw an airport, an entire airport, which
is totally empty.
There were no planes there at all.
But the airport is built waiting for people
to come to this tourist resort, which it
will serve.
So, and why build that if they didn't
really want to get tourists in from China,

(09:33):
maybe from the rest of the world.
And they let you see that.
Yes.
Oh, yes, exactly.
And they were prepared to talk about that
and say, we're going to have wonderful things.
And, and evidently they had, they had had
people who'd gone to Disneyland in Paris to
look at that, how you, how you build
resorts like that, how you design them.
So money had been invested in this opening

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up.
So it isn't just, just a political rapprochement.
I think it's something they need for their
survival now.
But when they do open up, then what
happens to the sort of regimented Kim family
thought that people are going to say, well,
there's a, they do it differently in another
part of the world.
Maybe we should do it differently.
I just don't know.
It's a very, very interesting time.

(10:16):
Pretty much nailed it.
Oh, yeah.
Fantastic.
It was pretty obvious from the get go.
That's what they were up to.
And I still think that if they get
their act together, I wouldn't mind having the
franchise to sell tickets to that giant spectacular
show.
The big show.
Yeah.
The big show.
Once a year, you can get a thousand
bucks a seat.

(10:37):
Well, I was thinking about this in our
never ending quest to get out of the
podcasting gig and make some real money.
Another exit strategy.
Well, here's the, here's the strategy.
So we get someone within our network, somebody
can at least go buy up a block
of tickets.
We need a block of, say, you know,
50 seats.
Maybe if we get 20, we'll take that.

(10:58):
And then we're going to do a whole
VIP thing.
So, you know, we're going to charter the,
I mean, this is, this is going to
be millionaires, like people who are in the
500,000 plus category.
And it's going to be, you know, we'll
take the whole thing, the lodging, you know,
the plane, we'll have our own tents, our
yurts, catering, you know, a badge, you know,

(11:24):
a badge, platinum badge, challenge coin, tote bag
for the starter price of, I think $7
,000.
But if it's a couple, then, you know,
then we just do, you know, like 12
or something.
Yeah.
I was thinking about it.
12 is the sweet spot.
Yeah.

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So get ready, fire up a newsletter.
And we have the banks who are laundering
money, drug money typically.
And then you have the real estate guys
like Trump who launder money through what we
used to just call commerce, just doing private
transactions.
But now we always think of everything as
a crime.
Who cares?
I don't care where you got your money
from.
You want to buy this apartment?

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Good.
Here you go.
So Trump is just laughing his ass off
and they hate him for it.
And I just read that ING in the
Netherlands just paid a 775 million euro claim
or a fine to the Europeans, I guess
the central bank, I don't know where they
send it, to the EU before money laundering,
drug money laundering, because they weren't paying close

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enough attention to the deposits, you see.
I did some research on this to figure
out how to do money laundering as a
real estate guy.
You mean some job research?
That's my exit strategy.
The best one yet.
Turns out it's a good one.
It turns out to be a very good

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one.
And the reason is because it's essentially legal.
Completely legal.
You do not have to check the background.
So Trump is not breaking any laws by
being a money launderer, if we want to
call him that, if we even assume we're
correct in our assumptions, which I believe we
are.
And that is because the restrictions on banks
taking in cash and not reporting it from

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drug companies, stuff's still powdery, is one thing.
And you have to do all these reportings.
For example, even when we make a money
transfer, if I wait way too long and
it gets over a certain amount, it gets
reported to the IRS.
Everything you do in a banking environment gets
reported.
Real estate, no.
No holds barred.

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There is nothing you can take it.
Some guy can walk into your office if
you're a real estate developer with a million
dollars in cash.
It was very similar to me where I
had lots of money and I had a
helicopter, a fractional ownership company, and 9-11
happens.
Like that was the beginning of a long
slide.

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No one was using private aviation for a
while after 9-11.
That's when his restaurants, the restaurant he had
in some crazy place with a horrible lease
and he just tanked on that.
A lot of stuff you don't know about
the guy.
Yeah, I did.
Yeah, I had worked on, I spent a

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couple, probably I had a file open and
every once in a while a question would
come to mind, I'd put it in there.
Hey, how many other interesting friends can we
interview before they're dead or we are?
I got quite a few.
I just have to do it.
Yeah, well, give me one name that would
be interesting.
Who's a good name that would be...
Well, I know who would be interesting to

(14:31):
me and I want to do him.
So to speak.
This guy Draper, yes.
This guy Draper is 90 something.
He runs a wine...
He's one of the original wine importers in
California and he knows everything about the wine
industry in the state.
You should do that.
And he's finally opened up a small shop.

(14:51):
Because, you know, I'm thinking with all these
interviews now, I have a couple people I
can call, you know, we've got a product.
Maybe not.
Once again, we're going to get out of
this thing rich if it kills us.
The title of 1071 was Kami Komi and
Darren, there was a lot of good art

(15:13):
actually.
Yeah, that was a lot of good art.
It was a tough one.
We liked what Darren had done with the
No Agenda stencils on the tents, which is
our latest get rich quick scheme.
Yeah, the exit strategy.
Yeah, our exit strategy.
I'm not quite sure how it's going to
exit us.
I think we basically wind up...
Promoting the show.
Oh, OK.
We promote the show.
Once the show has been promoted sufficiently, we

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might get onto iTunes, into the charts.
Yeah.
Does anyone in Texas think that Fort Worth
is a shithole?
No, it's actually very beautiful, has a great
airport and that's where things will be happening.
Yeah, it's where Amazon's going to move.
I thought that was a secret.
You swore me to fucking secrecy.
You said we've got to look for some

(15:54):
real estate up there as another exit strategy.
And now you're just telling everybody?
Why should I say this?
Because I mentioned to a friend of mine,
a Lib Joe, who seems to be worried
sick that he's going to be swamped under
by the rising oceans.
You should ask him if he has a
few hours to listen to my report on
climate change.
It'll change his mind.
It's not that long.

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It's only an hour.
Anyway, he's moaning and groaning about this.
So you told him about Amazon?
You told him our secret?
It's going to be a great place to
move.
And he says it's a shithole.
Wait a minute.
This guy said, this Lib Joe said Fort
Worth is a shithole?
Yeah.
Screw him.
It's not all that bad.

(16:36):
I like the town.
Anyway, so you might as well tell everyone
now.
Now the cat is out of the bag.
We've been researching Amazon moving to Fort Worth
as their new headquarter.
And you and I were like, oh, we
got to buy some real estate.
It's going to make us rich.
Don't you remember the whole sworn to secrecy
bit?
I made a mistake.
Okay.
Now everyone's in on it.

(16:57):
That, to the best of my recollection, is
how podcasting came to be.
We should clip that whole thing.
Yeah, I think it's pretty bad.
And put it on as a separate little
podcast.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll put it on the M-Bone.
Actually, what we'll do is a history of
podcasting.
I'll do an interview with you.
I feel a giblet coming.
Ah, yeah, I think there's a giblet.

(17:20):
We'll take a little, we'll take a transcript
of what you just said.
We'll add some more stuff to it.
Make it into a giblet.
We'll also do it as, clip that out
and make a podcast that stands alone.
A standalone podcast that says as its name,
the history of podcasting.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
It's a very good idea.

(17:42):
And that will take once and for all.
So if you go to Google and you
go history of podcasting, this thing is going
to be on the first page somewhere.
And then there's the book.
Is it a full-on book?
Or there's only eight million books of how
podcasts...
No, it's going to be a giblet.
It's going to be a small, short little
thing.
It's not going to be a long, boring

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book going back to 1927.
It's going to be just about what you
said, pretty much, and how it kind of
came about, and how it got named, and
how it got where it got, and why
it's just not doing what you'd hoped it
had done, except in very few instances.
It was all very successful.
Well, I mean, if we did a full

(18:24):
-on, I mean, we'd have to talk about
MeVeo.
We'll co-author it.
We'll co-author it, Adam Curry and Bob
Doyle.
George Washington and Bob Doyle.
Oh, man.
Anyway, so that kind of sets it straight,
I think.
But I'd love to do that.
Let that be a project.

(18:44):
That's our exit strategy right there.
Another project is in the can.
Yes.
He's a disruptor credited for reviving Canada's apple
industry.
It takes a village, they say.
Not a village, a big town.
He did it three decades ago when he
invented ice cider, an alcoholic apple drink akin

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to dessert wine.
It takes advantage of something Canada has in
abundance, the cold.
I pick apple when there is minus 10
Celsius in the apple.
Instead of picking apples in the fall, he
waits until they freeze in the winter when
the apple sugar peaks.
He was inspired by a popular drink called

(19:27):
ice wine, which is made from frozen grapes.
John, you've hit upon something very big here.
This is an exit strategy.
This is, I'm sure, millennials love this whole
idea.
Oh, yeah.
Ice cider.
Can you imagine Curry Dvorak ice cider?

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You know, we're like the two geezers who
really know what we're doing.
We can come up.
Yeah, because we're apple experts.
Yes, we're apple experts.
We understand everything about apples, about wine.
We understand that.
And I think the millennials would go crazy
for this stuff.
So the accuracy just increases because the sample
size gets bigger and bigger and bigger and
bigger because they keep using it.

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Already, I'm very impressed by facial recognition.
It really is.
I mean, especially if you have the right
camera for it.
The technology is actually pretty damn good.
Now, there's a couple of things you can
try.
Pat.
Apparently, you can take a picture of an
eyeball and you put it between the two
eyeballs.
So you can put two eyeballs.
You have a third eyeball.

(20:30):
Is that what?
Third eyeball at work.
But you can say, hey, I have a
third eye.
It's my religion.
You can put a copy of eyeballs above
your brow.
Just stop.
Just stop.
This is the official no agenda TSA evasion
kit.
And it consists of a third eyeball sticker

(20:51):
that you put right on your head.
This is another yet another exit strategy.
I believe there's also some uses of glassware
that would work.
And makeup might or might not work.
How about one of those glasses with the
googly eyes that fall out the big eyeball?

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I think that would be funny.
But I think the real killer here, because
it's done through points they have to identify,
is the big Taliban beard.
I don't think that makes a difference.
I think it sees right through.
I don't think the beard does anything for
facial recognition.
I believe a Taliban beard.
So the kit includes a sticker, a third

(21:35):
eye sticker, a Taliban beard and the googly
eyeglasses.
Yeah.
We can get this made in China for
20 cents and sell it for 20 bucks.
20 bucks.
We're going to be rich.
Another exit strategy.
We're going to be so rich.
Modern, modern problems.
Modern, modern problems in the UK.
Well, we've got a monster of a fatberg

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under the seafront here in Sydmouth.
It's about 64 metres long, we think, which
is the equivalent of about six double-decker
buses.
So this is created by fat, but also
with wet wipes and things.
So our message, particularly around toilet and the
way people use their toilets, is to only

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flush the three Ps.
That is pee, paper and poo and nothing
else.
Everything else needs to go in the bin.
And the same applies with fat in the
kitchen sink.
Don't pour hot fat down the kitchen sink.
It needs to go into a container and
also put in the bin.
This is really...
That's not true.
What?
You can emulsify fat with some soap and

(22:38):
hot water and it's fine to dump it
down the drains.
Have you seen any of these fatbergs in
the sewer?
So 60 metres long.
Well, that's because people put fat down the
drain where they don't emulsify it first.
What's getting blamed for it is toilet wipes.
That's the one thing I keep hearing is
toilet wipes, toilet wipes, toilet wipes.

(22:59):
Are they going to go the way of
the straw?
I'll bet you they are.
Wait, this is our exit strategy.
We need recyclable toilet wipes or something like
that.
There you go.
Yeah, you wipe your butt and then you
wash it in the washing machine a few
times and then you can use it again.
Or maybe better.

(23:20):
Nah, people aren't going to do that.
We should have some kind of butt wipe
where it's kind of like a mitten.
And so after you've wiped, then you fold
it inside out.
And wipe again.
No, then you can dispose of it in
the bin.
You know, so the whole thing is just...
I think maybe Dan wants to get one

(23:41):
of those smart toilets.
It already sounds like an expensive item.
This doesn't sound like a great exit strategy
is what I'm thinking.
Well, no.
That's all these ideas have been.
Oh, man.
Don't be so mean to me now.
So, of course, I was looking for another
exit premium.
You know, an amulet or something that could

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channel away the 5G energy.
But of course, this doesn't really exist.
Crystals.
5G crystals.
That's right.
No agenda.
5G crystals will save your life from 5G
signals.
Or maybe just a simple armband that lights
up when there's too much 5G around you.
That would be cool.
And that's pretty inexpensive to make.

(24:23):
That's not a bad idea.
Yeah, you could just be, okay, I got
red here on my band.
Or you could use it on weaving into
fashion so people can wear a fashionable dress.
And so when the dress just lights up
and there's all kinds of cool stuff because
there's too many phones in the area.
It'd be great.
That's one of the few times you've agreed
with my exit strategy premium items.
I've always thought that wearable displays of LEDs

(24:47):
and things flashing around were always cool.
I went years ago, I think it was
in the 90s.
I went to China and they were selling
this stuff on the street.
And I've always thought it was just a
dynamite idea.
Once in a while, it sneaks into the
fashion shows.
But it hasn't totally caught on.
Well, this should be actually quite easy to
produce if we just create a little element

(25:09):
that has the right length that it would
fire up.
It's just like any kind of magnetic loop.
It'll resonate and it can throw off a
little electricity, maybe enough to light something up
on a band.
Yeah.
All right.
I will be in the lab.
There's engineers out there that can help us.
Of course, there's gonna be some douche who

(25:29):
already did this.
I don't think so.
Okay.
So, as a part of your OTG strategy,
you do need something else.
And for that, I have the Surface Go.
A very inexpensive, very small device.
It's the size of my original iPad.
I have a nice little, a beautiful little

(25:50):
case that it goes into.
And I have a hotspot.
I think you can get the Surface Go
now with LTE.
Don't get that.
What you want is you want to be
disconnected.
If I really, really, really need to get
something, the pain of turning on the dongle,
the hotspot, firing up the little computer, and

(26:12):
then doing whatever I need to do, that
becomes a choice of like, do I really
need to do this?
Can I do this later?
Is it of utmost importance?
When it's really easy to do, you will
do it.
You have to pain yourself.
And how long have I been doing this,
six months?
Would you say?
Longer.
Longer, really.
I'm cured.
I am completely cured.

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And I love it.
I can even pick up an iPhone now
and just do something to get it out
of there or whatever and put it back
down.
Notifications aren't in my life anymore, except for
one sound from my phone.
And that's only a handful of people, including
you.
And you called me the other day.
That was a surprise, like the phone's ringing.

(26:53):
So that is the strategy.
When people say, what phone should I get?
I can get the one that is completely
built on open standards, Linux, hardware switches.
You're still going to be distracted and looking
at your phone when you could be looking
at other people looking at their phones.
It's a lot more fun.
It is funnier.
It's fun.
It's really great because I'm going to be

(27:16):
candid.
You feel superior.
You do.
Well, that's your golden life.
You just feel superior.
Yes, that's my exit strategy.
Yeah, you can taste it.
Well, the problem with balsamic is because the
process for making it involves no aging, a
little aging, a lot of aging.

(27:38):
And then it involves different specific gravities, which
is the thickness.
Oh, gravity is thickness?
Specific gravity is pretty much thickness.
It's the weight per volume kind of calculation.
But anyway, so it can be very thick

(27:58):
and so you can pour it and it
comes out kind of like a syrup or
it can be watery like the stuff you
buy at Costco.
And so it's not watery, watery, but it's
just watery.
It's just like the same viscosity of regular
vinegar.
It doesn't have any of the thickness that
you get on a good balsamic.

(28:21):
And thank you for giving us the correct
pronunciation.
Balsamic.
I think I always say balsamic, which is
wrong.
Balsamic.
I don't really think it's important.
But I think that because of the variation
in the quality and style, I think it'd
be very easy to pass off the mediocre,
using the wrong grapes and making it the

(28:43):
traditional way and getting those flavors.
I don't think it would be.
I think it'd be very difficult to spot,
to be honest about it.
Well, the scandal is upon us.
I'm going to have to have some of
the scandalous stuff.
In fact, you never know.
It's possible the scandalous stuff is better.
It could be.

(29:04):
Don't know.
It's always possible.
It does happen.
Hey, man, this stuff actually kicks ass.
We like it.
It actually could be better.
In fact, if they marketed it differently, I
think you'd have some.
For example, don't call it balsamic, call it
asalmic.
Ooh, nice.
You had balsamic, try asalmic.

(29:24):
Oh, an exit strategy.
Yeah.
New vinegar.
I have an idea.
We could write a book about it.
Oh, I'm sorry.
What am I thinking?
Yeah.
Do you know that the guy that was
taking the test for the students, he was
arraigned and I guess he's going to go
to jail.
This is in the college admission scandal.

(29:47):
Yes, he was doing the admission scandal.
Do you?
I want you to guess.
And I know you don't have the script
or you didn't hear this.
How much was he paid to take the
SAT for somebody?
And then also now you take it, but
get a score that would be, apparently it
was so good he could manipulate the score.
So he knew all the answers.

(30:07):
How much was he paid per test?
Why would you think I wouldn't know this
number?
Oh, you know it?
Of course.
What do you think I do all day?
Oh, man.
Florida Prep School Administrator Mark Riddell pled guilty
today in Boston Federal Court to taking entrance
exams for students in a massive college admissions
bribery scheme.
Prosecutors said the 36-year-old Harvard graduate

(30:28):
was typically paid $10,000 per test.
Riddell could face up to 20 years in
prison and a $250,000 fine.
Now, did you think that was a lot?
I didn't think it was a little or
a lot.
I just thought it was good money for
taking the test.
I was thinking the same way.
Yeah, because you can only pick one up,

(30:49):
you know, once every couple of weeks, I
guess.
Yeah, but it's $10,000.
You do $10,000 a year, you've made
$100,000 off the top.
Yeah, well, there's hope.
Hey, exit strategy.
Do you think you could ace?
Do you think you could ace the exam?
I can come pretty close.
I got really high scores on the SATs.

(31:10):
Now we all know why I went to
West Virginia.
Now, what you just said, I think is
a great idea.
And I will mention that Costco and other
places, you could put, you know, two or
three, quote unquote, rolls on a small thumb
drive and take it to Costco and they'll
print these things out inexpensively, about the same

(31:32):
you'd have to pay for supplies to do
it yourself, fairly inexpensively.
And you will have these backups.
And they actually, the gear that they're, the
big print guys have is a little better
than what you generally have in it.
And it's also, it tunes the photos a
little bit.
There's going to be an entire generation of
children who get old and die.

(31:52):
And there's going to be nothing left.
I really enjoy having some of my mom's
crazy shit, some letters and some photos.
I like the photos.
I like photos of my daughter.
Black and white photos.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
Cause I, you know, I've saved all of
the original videotapes of Christina, second birthday, third
birthday.
There's some fun stuff on it.
Start rolling them out.
Yeah, it's VHS.

(32:13):
Then I also have a VHSC.
I have beta.
No, what's the DV video.
Now I save the actual cameras so I
can play it back.
Yeah, this is a problem.
But it's, it's going, yeah, there's services who
will do it.
And I understand the storage is going to
be a problem because, oh my God, now
you, besides your $200 Lululemon pants, you also

(32:35):
have to carry around some, like a photo
album and you have no backpack for it.
It's not going to work.
For these guys.
Maybe.
Hey, exit strategy.
I just saw a giant truck go by
giant truck with a big blue side that
said prime.

(32:55):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Amazon.
Yeah.
All right.
Anyway, I, you know, they, they're, they're into
this.
The way they're doing it is the way
what they're into.
And I think they're going to be sorely
disappointed.
This is just a warning.
Yeah, I agree.
Which way it's, it's just a, hey, take
it from your uncle, Adam and uncle John.
You might want to have some memories later

(33:16):
on.
And it's going to go away.
If you, if you trust it to Instagram,
just take a couple, make a selection.
We need to have the millennial vault.com
or something like this, where you, you know,
you just send off a couple of pictures.
We print them.
We store them for you, which of course
we don't do.
Cause we're really an on-demand printing system.
You see.

(33:37):
So we'll say, we're going to print these
for you and we'll keep them safe for
you.
And then when you, and you go pick
them up, which 90% will never do.
Then we, oh, here they are.
We print them off real quick.
So they're also well-preserved.
They're kept perfectly well.
And you know, obviously we won't lose the
data.
It's another exit strategy.
Like this show is doomed.
Well, I don't know.

(33:57):
I think we'll make it out before, before
the real crunch comes down.
You mean exit strategy?
People get, I got angry letters about this.
Yeah.
I got a producer email me.
People in my family have donated, but I
just can't.
When you keep talking about exit strategy, bring
back the good old days.
I said, what do you mean we were

(34:17):
doing one show a week for 40 minutes
and you weren't donating?
I said, you want that?
I don't think so.
So you do know that exit strategy is
a joke, right?
Kind of.
I mean, if we had a real exit
strategy, we'd just be, we'd exit.
But right now, but right now being, being
on the front lines of the podcast, reboot

(34:38):
is fabulous.
No one cares about us.
Not a single story, not, nothing covers us
ever, ever.
It causes some karma for her husband, who's
a mainframe guy, a mainframe dude.
Oh yeah, the mainframe, because there's not that
many mainframe jobs left.
We got an email from a company that
says, oh, or someone who works at a

(34:58):
company says, hey, could you please hook me
up with that, with that producer?
Because I think our company would be interested
in her husband.
And so I don't know if we've made
a love match yet, but we have-
Did you send her, you sent a note
back?
Eric very properly sent a, sent a note
to her with the information.
You know, we don't connect people directly.
They have to do that themselves.
So we're like a, you know, we're like

(35:19):
a job fair here.
Yeah.
Hey, hey, exit strategy.
Exactly.
Job, job fair.
Hey everybody, welcome to- John Adams job
fair.
Welcome to the best- In Des Moines
on Saturday, in Great Plains on Sunday, 12
to 3.
You know, you're, you're syrup, syrupy.
All you need to do is just put

(35:40):
Katy Perry on the judge's podium and you'll
have it made.
ABC will carry it.
Yeah, but see, now this is the beauty
of the Eurovision song contest, is there's a,
each country has its own professional judges and
they vote and they're not allowed to vote
on their own country.
But then you have the, the, the text
vote and, you know, and you see all

(36:01):
the politics coming into play, you know, adjacent
countries who will vote for each other.
You know, if they don't like that country,
then, you know, everyone hates Russia, so they
don't vote for them, except for the countries
that do love Russia.
So it's just, it's a wonderful evening.
Apparently Logo stopped doing it.
So much for your theory.
Oh, damn it.

(36:21):
It's ridiculous.
I do think it could be what, when
you mentioned Terry Wogan just ragging on it.
I think I'd watch that.
You and I could do this, actually.
We could do, Yeah, we could rag on
it just as much as anybody.
But we could do a good job.
I think it would be fun to have
you just being like, what is this?

(36:42):
What country?
Who, where is this country?
Where's Katy Perry?
I could see it.
All right, well, I'll see if anyone is
carrying it.
Next year should be a big event.
We can do a little TV.
This is our exit strategy.
Hey, I'm all for it.

(37:03):
Let me see if we, hey, how about
this?
Let me see if we can get a
feed that everyone will be watching.
A legal feed.
A legal feed.
And then we'll just pop on our stream
and we'll just provide commentary.
You can sit on the couch while you
do it.
No, we got to do it on video.
It has to be video.
We can't, can't we just provide it?
Oh, I see what you're saying.

(37:24):
Yeah, it has to be synced with the
video.
But we don't have to be on camera.
No, no, no, no.
I was thinking more like the Space Science
3000 with the two of our shadows in
front.
You know, silhouettes of our heads.
And maybe a third head.
I think that's complicating an already well thought
out format.

(37:44):
Just do the voiceover.
You don't need to do anything else.
How did Wogan do it?
He just voiceover.
He was just in the background.
He was never on camera.
Yeah, just get a video feed.
And then you and I will just rag
on it.
Complicate it later.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
I think this is, I think this, is
it this weekend?
That's the, that's the wedding weekend.

(38:04):
And?
Well, so you have to cancel the wedding.
Either that or we can sit in my
studio and do it live together.
Yeah, maybe not.
Cancel the wedding.
Maybe not, maybe not.
Oakland, I know him.
I said, hey Cliff, can I come over
there with some gear and we can record
a, you know, some new material from you.
And he obliged.

(38:25):
It's very entertaining.
Very entertaining.
Oh, good.
And you did this when?
This past week?
I did last week.
Oh, cool.
And he also makes Klein bottles as a
hobby.
What kind of bottles?
A Klein bottle is a bottle with one
surface.
You have to look it up to see
what they are.
But they only have one surface.
It's like a, you know, the thing you

(38:48):
twist and what's it called?
I can't remember.
People in this chat room know where you
have a, you can take a piece of
paper and turn it.
So it has one surface and just keep
going around and around.
Well, I know what it is.
I got it now.
Klein bottle.
How do you spell Klein?
K-L-E-I-N.
Klein bottle.
Okay.
Let me just see what it is.

(39:08):
Yeah.
Mobius band.
Oh, okay.
It's a Mobius band bottle.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
Is there any benefit to the Mobius band
bottle?
Or the Mobius band bottle?
None.
Yeah.
There is a benefit.
If you want to put some liquid in
something, you can't get it out.
If you make them and you sell them,
there's a benefit.

(39:29):
No other observable benefit.
It's definitely a curiosity.
That's for sure.
And he makes a bunch of different ones.
So when you pour it, it basically goes
back into the bottle.
Yeah.
That's the smart stuff.
You can't really pour it out.
That's what we should.
That's the problem.
You can't get it out.
I've got it.
There's another exit strategy.
Not quite sure how we.
Klein bottles.

(39:50):
Klein bottles.
The second is we have an upvote and
a downvote system.
That's really powerful to have both.
So that users can actually weigh in on
what is appropriate content and what's good content.
And there it is.
This is a whole new presentation.
And they're saying we have human moderators.
We have 15 to 50 moderators before anything

(40:12):
surfaces up high enough for your brand to
be tainted by it.
Don't worry.
You're safe with us.
We got this lady over here.
She knows the inside workings of Twitter and
Google.
We figured it out.
We've tackled it.
They hired 60 people.
Six zero.
60 people in New York for brand advertising.
And then they quarantine the Donald.

(40:34):
Well, of course they do.
They're pitching this to advertisers.
What are you doing about all that horrible
discourse?
All these alt-right people on the Donald
subreddit.
We've quarantined that.
So if you want to be effective and
if you are worried about free speech and
you really feel you need to use these
platforms, which I'm against.
And you need to go after the advertisers.

(40:56):
And stop bitching and moaning about censoring.
Go after the advertisers.
Go for the jugular where the money is.
This is where we could get into our
pitch.
Oh, the final thing I wanted to say.
I got a note.
This is another exit strategy.
We could start that group.
Oh, interesting.
What what group?
The the the anti-brand group?

(41:17):
The media matters.
We'd be a media matters.
No agenda matters.
It's wrong all the time.
We cannot sleep because every 15 to 20
minutes the guards are yelling something.
Get up.
We spent all day and every day inside
of that room.
There are no activities.

(41:37):
Only crying.
Oh, won't somebody please think of the children?
Unbelievable.
So not only do I not believe this.
They've now traumatized 20 other children to believing
how horrible and it I'm sure it's no
picnic.

(41:59):
But this is not the way to go
about doing these things.
It's despicable.
You know what?
Maybe we're stupid.
We're stupid, John.
No, no, we're don't see it that way.
Yeah, we're done.
Okay.
Yeah, we need to have children asking for
donations on our show.

(42:19):
Oh, I'm liking it.
Please.
Adam and John, we have a number of
we have plenty of talent out there that
can record a few ditties for us.
Children begging for money for the no agenda
show, because it's horrible.
It's horrible how bad things are.

(42:40):
Exactly.
So if we're just not this is it.
We could actually start an ad agency.
That's it.
Our exit strategy.
Yes, but a bunch of very talented erudite
kids.
This is a great idea.
Yes.
What we call it.

(43:01):
Kids for cash or it sounds like cars
for kids.
It sounds like it doesn't.
Oh, no, don't sing it.
Don't sing.
It'll be in my head for the rest
of the week.
No, no, no.
Don't do that.
Well, we could use a jingle too.
Yeah, we're going to do this.
This is where we're going.
This is a great idea.
And then auditions are underway.

(43:22):
And then the newsletter.
You could do it with crayons.
I'm sure it'll work.
Clearly, this is the way to go.
We also found that, and this is I
think is key, that many of the streaming
set top boxes and smart TVs tell the
sending side to send 5.1 even if

(43:46):
the output is only going to stereo speakers
built into the TV.
So I think there's a big flaw is
in your Roku box or whatever you're using.
It's sending a signal saying, yes, send me
that 5.1. Which, of course, is looking
for a center channel to send the dialogue
through.
The audio processor in these devices often does

(44:07):
not do a proper down mix to stereo.
And in several of the low price models,
does a very poor job of the down
mix levels, leaving dialogue always lower than other
sounds, in particular by not properly mixing in
the center channel with the front left and
right.
This is where I see our exit strategy.
We need a box.
We need a box.
Yeah, I need a box.
Need a DSP, digital signal processing box.

(44:30):
There's an app that does this for the
Xbox, apparently.
I don't have an Xbox, but a lot
of people...
Call it a Foley box.
Just use this software.
License it.
There you go.
Done.
Exit.
Okay, well, that's it.
Last show, everybody.
We had the big freak out and boycott
of Equinox and SoulCycle.

(44:51):
What?
SoulCycle and Equinox.
The boycott.
We had the boycott.
Remember the CEO of the company that owns
the gym and the spin class?
Oh, the spin gym guy.
Spin gym guy.
Boycott.
The spin gym guy.
Hold on.
That, by the way, is a whole new
cab.
That's an exit strategy.

(45:12):
I'm going to write that down.
Spin gym.
So you go there and you can spin
and gym.
It's a combo.
It's the spin gym.
Yeah, you're pumping away and you're pulling down
weights.
At the same time.
Yeah.
Perfect.
Spin gym.
Okay, I'm writing that down as an exit
strategy.
My guests aren't helping.
I have to call back, though.

(45:34):
Your idea of the homelessness experience in Disneyland.
I think we could create this ride.
Now, do you sit in the ride or
do you?
I think you should also experience for a
brief moment you stepping in human feces.
Um.

(45:54):
I don't know that the homeless are always
stepping in human feces.
I guess some of that are really down
and out, staggering down the street, all leaned
over.
I mean, if the ride is the ride,
are you going to actually experience it?
Like, so is it a ride?
I think the most enjoyable Disney rides are
in a cart, you know, and you got
your music going on and you like, you

(46:15):
know, well.
Well, okay.
There's two ways of going about this.
I'm a huge connoisseur of these things.
Ah, here we go.
There's one is you're in the little cart,
a little car, a little thing, and it's
going through a homeless encampment and people are
all animatronic.
That's like Pirates of the Caribbean.
Yeah, exactly like Pirates of the Caribbean.
Only you're not you.

(46:36):
Maybe it could be, you know, in a
kind of a river of pee, you know,
if you kind of stinky pee, that would
be OK.
But I think generally speaking, be better on
rails.
And you go through these things and you
see all these different people.
And then they have, you know, people do
you have you go through the section where
there's a bunch of politicians trying to come
up with good solutions.
And they finally say we just need more
housing.
And then you come out, you come out

(46:57):
the other end of it and you feel
real good about yourself and you now you
understand, you understand.
Now you have evolved.
That's the other one, which is the cheaper
way to go is you put you wear
some VR glasses or you're in a VR
situation.
You experience the whole thing.
Only now it's even more realistic, not because

(47:17):
it's not animatronics.
It's not it's not dummies and things like
Pirates of the Caribbean is the actual videos
that you're seeing and surrounded by the real
extension fields and fans blowing the smell of
crap in your face.
And you go through the whole thing and

(47:38):
you come out the other end pretty much
with the same message.
But it's just the cheaper way to do
the ride.
Less maintenance.
I personally like the Pirates of the Caribbean
version.
I like that a little better.
I think it's more fun.
I always like those rides better than the
ones that are closed.
Because you go through City Hall where the
council members are all sitting there pontificating.

(47:59):
Then you could do.
And here's Los Angeles and here's Austin.
You could have a couple of show some
differences.
Oh, yeah, right.
Yeah, you could take the car through one
place or another.
And then, you know, guys begging for money
in different ways.
Along the ride, people keep coming up to
your cart asking for money.

(48:21):
Yeah, we're going to hell for this.
There's more to this report.
So we already we discussed this on the
show.
I had the clip of that guy who
used to eat food.
You know, he's very popular and just eats
like huge amounts of food and then bitches
and moans and get sick.
And this guy's got millions of viewers.
Okay.
Yes.
Mukbang.
It's yes.

(48:42):
And and the keeper watches some.
We did not miss this.
But well, but we didn't get the name
Mukbang and we didn't get some other important
facts.
Yes, we did miss a lot of this
story.
Since 2011, a peculiar trend of live streaming

(49:06):
while eating large quantities of food has become
more and more popular in South Korea.
Here comes.
The people who participate in Mukbang have become
minor celebrities in their own right to the
point that they're referred to as broadcast jockeys
or the more popular term.
Don't laugh.
BJ's.

(49:28):
So they become BJ's.
Yeah, well, I agree.
We didn't get BJ's.
These so-called BJ's have learned that there
is such a thing as a free lunch.
This is Park Sooyoung, one of the country's
most popular BJ's for whom Mukbang was a
full-time job, better known as the diva.

(49:52):
At one point, she was making up to
$9,000 a month through her fans donations.
John exit strategy.
We can do this.
$9,000 a month compared to the girls
who do makeup videos is minor.
But we can do ASMR. Mukbang.
Here's an example.

(50:12):
This is a guy eating a pizza.
We could do this.
Maybe you're not in, but I think I
need to do some Mukbang.
I think you should do it.
I think you should do it.

(50:33):
And I'll watch.
But listen to the headline.
VJ becomes BJ.
I mean, could it be any better?
It's obvious.
The promotion is right there.
Ready to go.
Yeah.
Well, there's another dead end.
Woody Allen wasn't already like super, like super
canceled.
No, he's canceled.

(50:54):
Canceled now.
I mean, his new movie, A Rainy Day
in New York will not get released in
the United States.
It's actually been released in Europe to good
reviews.
Yeah.
Amazon will not bring it out in the
United States.
They won't stream it.
He's got the autobiography of Woody Allen, which
has to be a fascinating book.
Yeah, no, denied.

(51:14):
The big four publishers, none of them will
touch it.
Did he do that himself?
He's a writer.
Yeah.
But he did the film about his life,
or is it just a written?
No, a book.
Oh, well, shit.
No Agenda Press should release that.
Exit strategy, baby.
That's the bottom of the barrel for him.
In the actual government documents themselves, if you

(51:37):
look at money that was intended for Ukraine.
It doesn't take a genius.
It's $300 million was earmarked, government money, our
money, tax money, $300 million for AIDS education
in Ukraine.
And that's going to NGOs and that's how
it works.

(51:58):
You set up, it's like, hey, John, we
got a buddy over there and they get
in Congress and they got some chips in
with somebody else.
So why don't we start a little non
-governmental organization?
We will educate podcasters how to be free
media, something like that.
And then we'll get an earmark and we'll
get $25 million.
We put together a class.

(52:19):
Oh, this is what it is.
And this is what we should be doing.
I know.
This is the exit strategy.
We're available.
Now, you need a good grantsmanship person.
Somebody knows how to write grants and you
can make a lot of money off of
this thing that they're trying to put an
end to.
And I think it's wise to put an

(52:39):
end to it because it is squandering taxpayers
money.
So we have the same memes over and
over from all the reporters and from every
analyst on this side of the water that
it makes us less safe.
And Congress wasn't consulted.
That's it.
That's all they got.

(53:00):
That's all they got.
Congress wasn't consulted.
And as you pointed out, and everybody really
knows this, Congress doesn't need to be supported
or I'm sorry, informed about a drone hit
on someone.
When have they ever been informed of it?
When Obama had his hit list, was he
calling Congress up and saying, what do you
think, Nancy?
Should I kill this guy at the wedding?

(53:21):
We went into Syria without a declaration of
war.
Come on.
I mean, but that's that's just grasping at
straws.
More importantly, did I hear you say that
there's real money in these think tanks?
Is that possibly the exit strategy we should
be looking at?
There's real money in these think tanks.
If you know how to manage one, we

(53:42):
need somebody out there who can do grantsmanship.
So I think we should have the Curry
-Dvorak-Lincoln-Washington Consortium.
Don't you think so?
Doesn't that sound official?
Consortium group?
What do we need?
Curry-Dvorak-Lincoln-Washington Confab.

(54:03):
No, I'm looking for the right one.
Lincoln-Washington is just a good beginning.
Curry and Dvorak, who are those guys?
So just put Lincoln-Washington Consulting?
Washington-Lincoln, Lincoln-Washington.
Yeah, Lincoln-Washington-Washington.
You want to throw it?
You'd have to write, you'd have focus group
this baby.
Can we put it?
We just throw JFK in there for good
measure?
Lincoln-JFK.
No, JFK's out.

(54:23):
No, he's out.
OK, so I think the Lincoln-Washington Consulting
Group.
Yeah, that might work.
Lincoln-Washington.
Who's Lincoln?
Who's Washington?
What do you know?
We have to, we have to...
Greatest president ever and the founding father.
How about strategic strategy group?
That's better.
Lincoln-Washington Strategy Group.

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People can watch this in real time as
we develop this.
I've been working on our exit strategy as
always.
Yes.
Well, there is something going on in Texas
which might work for us.
I mean, it's not, yeah, it's, it would
still mean work, but we could certainly make
a lot of money if you're interested.

(55:06):
Well, the work part of it is kind
of disconcerting.
Here's Shelby County, Texas.
Shelby County commissioners plan to pay more than
$9,000 a month to a podcasting company
to produce podcasts and market it on the
internet.
This contract is so outrageous that it just

(55:26):
baffles me why we're doing this.
Shelby County Commissioner Mick Wright is the lone
commissioner who voted against paying the Katsuki Network
almost $110,000 to produce podcasts for the
commission.
When you're talking about over $100,000, I
mean, you could buy a small fleet of
vehicles for that amount and still do a

(55:47):
podcast.
The local I-team found there are cheaper
options in town.
The OAM Network operates out of the Crosstown
concourse.
Here, a podcast costs $300 for the first
episode and $100 per episode after that.
OAM's owner questions why the county is even
paying for podcasts when it video streams its

(56:09):
meetings and also broadcasts them live on the
radio.
The owner of Katsuki didn't want to comment
for this story, but at the commission meeting,
he explained the cost this way.
We really work with businesses and we work
with government entities to make sure that they
have a very high-end product.
John, it's that easy.

(56:30):
There's a lot of counties, every county.
Listen, we work with a lot of businesses
and we ensure you have a high-end
quality product.
The Curry Dvorak Podcast Production Group.
I would love to hear these high-end
products from this guy.
I wonder if they've produced any yet.

(56:52):
Shelby, that would be funny.
I should have actually looked into that.
I'm sorry, podcast.
Let's see, Shelby County Podcast.
No, nothing yet.
But it's something we could consider.
A hundred grand a year.
Yeah.
For just one county.
For one county, do a thousand counties.
Boom.

(57:12):
This is all being done through, well, not
all, mostly being done through AID, but also
the Democracy and Human Rights Bureau here at
state.
USAID and a new one, the Democracy and
Human Rights Bureau, which is also- That's
a new one.
You must have looked it up.

(57:32):
Oh, yes, I did.
All we need is to write one good
grant.
This is, I mean, it literally says opportunities.
So, here's one.
Requests for statements of interest, China programs.

(57:52):
So, the Bureau of Human Rights of Democracy,
Human Rights and Labor, which is a part
of the State Department, announces a request for
statements of interest from organizations interested in submitting
statements of interest for programs that protect and
promote human rights in China.
I think we qualify.
If not, we could make a sub-podcast

(58:13):
that does.
Oh, yeah, we could do that.
The program concept should demonstrate ability to improve
rights awareness and access to justice for Chinese
citizens, strengthen and institutionalize citizen participation in government,
promote government information transparency, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah.

(58:35):
The numbers they have available for 2020.
I'm just scrolling down because it's a very
long thing.
They have one grant for $750,000 and
one for $1.5 million.
John, we're crazy if we don't go after
some of this.

(58:55):
That's just the China one.
We could grab any one of these.
This is a propaganda bonanza.
I love these guys.
And Congress just gives them the money.
There you go.
Yeah, this is a very interesting outfit.

(59:17):
So that's what your money's going towards.
Podcasters in Venezuela.
Way to go, Congress.
Very, very proud of the work you're doing.
I did get the message about elderberry.
And there's some research on elderberry and chokeberry.
Chokeberry.
Which apparently keeps the Russians from ever catching
any of these.
Yeah, chokeberry, look it up.

(59:39):
It's another berry.
These two particular products have an immune effect
on the immune system, specifically targeting viruses.
And the Russians make a big deal of
having chokeberry and elderberry syrups and drinks and
such during the winter time.

(01:00:00):
Is this a millennial thing now?
It's like a small batch deal?
I don't know, but this is where I
got it from.
So I'm expecting to see it.
He mentioned it in his report, the elderberry
phenomenon.
So I guess they're all aware of it.
And so now you can somehow invest in
the elderberry business or chokeberries.
You're going to make a lot of money.

(01:00:21):
Exit strategy.
10 emails of people saying, dude, dude, dude,
dude.
What was it?
Tell me, what's your website?
I want stuff that makes my hair grow.
So I feel obliged to say that.
Thehappyhairformula.com is Vicky's personal website.
And let us know how that works out
for you.
That could be kind of interesting.

(01:00:42):
We could eventually have the official hair care
product of the No Agenda show.
If it's any good.
No Agenda hair care products.
Just like the t-shirts.
Nap for humanity.
There's some other guys who were talking about
some coffee.
I just want to make it clear.
Hey, man, we'd like to put the No
Agenda logo on the coffee and we'll give

(01:01:03):
you a third.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
If we like a product, we may endorse
it.
I don't know about having our logo on
it.
I don't think that's the right way to
go.
What do you think?
Well, a couple of things.
Do I hear an exit strategy?
Well, we had a No Agenda beer out
of Australia, as you recall.

(01:01:23):
Yes, that's true.
Yeah.
And it had our logo, kind of a
logo on it.
And we've had other products.
All the t-shirts that are done by
the shop, we've got the logo all over.
I don't see why it's a problem.
All of a sudden we hate coffee.
I don't.
I would like to taste the coffee before
it becomes official No Agenda coffee.

(01:01:45):
Is that crazy?
No, that's different.
Yeah.
I will say this.
I will agree with that.
So we need a couple of pounds of
coffee and then you can put the, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, a little micro brew from Australia.
I mean, by the way, it wasn't even
that micro.
It made it all the way to the
U.S. It was selling.
It was a monster.
It's a big, it's actually a big micro

(01:02:05):
brewery.
A big micro brewery.
Fantastic.
Yeah, it makes no sense, but there it
is.
On call for the benefit of the state.
But senior officials tell PBS NewsHour today was
also about diplomatic reciprocity.
In January, out of fears of COVID, the
U.S. evacuated its Wuhan consulate.
It has not reopened because of a dispute

(01:02:25):
over whether U.S. employees have to quarantine
and take COVID-19 tests upon arrival at
Chinese airports.
Longer term, U.S. officials say they want
to reduce their footprint in China.
In addition to the Beijing embassy, the U
.S. has five consulates on the Chinese mainland
and the Hong Kong consulate.
Senior officials say they've accepted the likely permanent
closure of one consulate and intend to move

(01:02:47):
it elsewhere in Asia.
You know, it's really no wonder when you
listen to these news reports, and I wonder
who was doing that reading, what station it
was on, because there's no wonder that no
one gives a crap about China because it's
really not compelling the way it's delivered.
What station is this?
That's your PBS NewsHour, hello.
Oh my god, that's really so exciting.
I don't know why people don't listen to
it, but we did report on the story,

(01:03:08):
but I just spoke it this way, and
then no one really paid attention to me.
I'm pretty good at that.
You get that voice down, you nail it,
you can go to work, that's an exit
strategy, you can go to work for PBS.
Exit strategy, everybody.
And see, I also got a whole bunch
of comic books.
I wonder if that's from our guy.

(01:03:30):
Are they high-end comic books with, oh,
the Batman character?
No, let's see, I'm not quite sure who
this is from.
Because Mike Riley's been sending out some work.
Oh, maybe, oh, this looks like Mike Riley.
No, Mike Riley's very distinctive.
Oh my goodness, this is Riley, oh, here
it is.
Oh my, Chimera, likely.

(01:03:51):
He's doing no-agenda comic books.
Have you seen those?
They're great.
I haven't got the latest batch, Oh my
goodness, I had not received any.
I love these.
I really appreciate that, Mike.
Thank you so much.
Well, he sent me some before because I
requested a printout of one of his artworks.
Yeah, well, it's, I mean, this is dynamite
work.
And there's also now on the Amazon store,

(01:04:14):
I tweeted a link to it, from the
same makers of the no-agenda Redbook, you
can now buy your very own Curry Dvorak
Consulting Group notebook.
That's a good one.
Half the exit strategy is right there.
What is kind of nice to know that
this problem- And now you're a podcaster.

(01:04:37):
And not only am I a podcaster, the
podfather, but it hit me Friday night, I
have not slept more than a couple hours
a night.
I figured out how to fix podcasting and
I'm going to do it.
This is the last time I heard, this
was your exact mode.

(01:04:59):
You go into this all the time, by
the way.
I do, it's a cycle.
I think it's about every two years, but
it could be longer.
Yeah.
The last time you had this was you,
actually, I can name another time before this
one, but the last time- Podcaster Pro.
Yes, which Rode finally did.
Yeah, so I was right, I chose poor

(01:05:22):
partners.
That was my mistake, there's no doubt about
it.
Yeah.
And I learned from that.
That was, you know, I'd learned from the
failure and so did Rode and I'm happy.
Rode went, oh, poor guy, this is fucking
great.
We got all these bits.
And they never sent you a free one.

(01:05:42):
Never sent me a free one.
And they're still, they almost have it perfected.
If only they'd put a noise gate on
the channel that comes in from the computer.
I'm just going to keep saying until they
do it.
Otherwise, it looks like a pretty decent device.
Now, this is a fix that will fix
payments.
It's going to fix a whole bunch of
things.
I figured it out.

(01:06:07):
And it may give us an exit strategy.
And are you going to discuss this openly?
Hell no, I'm not even going to tell
you privately.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I've learned, see, I've learned.
I've learned from my mistakes.
But Podcasting 2.0 is coming.
I'm working on it.
Okay, we're all, I'm at pins and needles.
Yeah, that's all the T's you get.

(01:06:27):
The next T's you get will be a
pew pew map.
And indeed, Podcasting 2.0 has turned out
to not be an exit strategy.
I'm going to show my support by donating
to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda, in the morning.

(01:06:50):
It's been fun.
It's been fun seeing all the new apps,
but no exit strategy.
I'm still stunned that they haven't sent you
a free road...
A free roadcaster?
Yeah, a roadcaster.
They hate me.
It's unbelievable.
This is typical.
And you know, they send them to YouTubers
and all kinds of people all the time.

(01:07:11):
I'll bet you I could work one.
I mean, if they...
I mean, think about this.
They also have the roadcast video, videocaster.
Yes, the latest, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, they could be like, hey,
you guys could do one video episode.
And we would probably do it if we
got some free gear out of it.

(01:07:33):
Yeah, that's the way you do it.
We're horrors like that.
But we're not getting anything.
No, it's amazing.
I'm really baffled about that because...
Yeah, the whole thing is ridiculous.
They kind of took my idea.
I don't want to blame, I don't want
to accuse them of anything.
Well, you can't.
Yeah, I wouldn't.
And I love that...
So we have to...
The worst thing is I love their product.

(01:07:54):
I love the product I use.
I have two of these.
I bought two.
And you're endorsing it, which really you shouldn't
do.
No, I got to stop doing that.
I got to stop doing that.
So we have to mention, this is the
donation segment.
The people that donate will get mentioned on
the next show.
It'll be a long donation segment.
And we're still taking donations, obviously.
And I want to mention that if anyone
wants to get the PhD in media deconstruction,

(01:08:14):
that it's still available until the next show.
So, I mean, it ends tomorrow, technically.
But, you know, we'll give you a little
weasel room if you get your donation in
for the PhD, then it's over.
And that's it.
There's no more Code Bongino for you.
That will be the last PhD in media
deconstructions for the foreseeable future.

(01:08:35):
Yeah, go to noagendadonations.com.
Yes.
And thank you all for supporting us with
the value for value model.
Thank you for all of our artists.
Thank you for everyone who's doing meetups.
It's a time, talent, and treasure.
And thank you again to Circumference for putting
this episode together.

(01:08:55):
There is over an hour left to go.
You're going to love this one, John.
I'm not even going to tell you what
it is.
This is the continuation of some great ideas
known as the No Agenda exit strategies.
Well, unfortunately, we do have an exit strategy.
And the exit strategy is we podcast until
we die.
That's the big exit.

(01:09:17):
Bye, everybody.
I can't think of any other exit strategy
for us.
It is overwhelming, the evidence.
If you don't believe in climate change or
heat, please come to the state of California,
and we will re-educate you or ultimately
enlighten you.
Wow.

(01:09:37):
Come to California.
We will re-educate you.
Please come to the state of California, and
we will re-educate you or ultimately enlighten
you as to the consequences of the Earth
and its temperatures increasing and the consequences that

(01:09:57):
are having in terms of droughts, not just
wildfires, as well as floods.
OK, I have an idea.
This is easily executable, and we have the
producers.
This is, after all, the best podcast in
the universe.
We have the producers to do this.
I would like a pre-print study.

(01:10:20):
That's what we get all the time.
And it's always, oh, that's not scientific.
Doesn't matter in this case.
A pre-print study that just has a
whole bunch of word salad in there that
shows that climate change and the increase in
temperature is the direct cause of COVID.

(01:10:40):
And let's just get it out there, see
what happens.
I mean, we might as well show how
good we are, you know, for the exit,
for the exit strategy.
It's just a thought.
We can do that.
It's still very doable.
Yeah, you know, put a couple of doctor
names, affiliations, you know, a statement of no
conflict.
Ah, it's going to be fantastic.

(01:11:01):
We should really consider that.
We tried to get reports from, I think
it was Gen Z.
For a while.
Not Gen Z, but Gen X, one of
the Gens.
And we sent out the message, we want
reports on your sex life.
Oh, yeah.
Because there's a lot of kinky sex going
on because these people, they learned about sex
from.
From porn.
Really horrid porn.

(01:11:22):
Well, we started getting some reports in, and
the reports were so terrible.
Yeah.
That we just discontinued the project.
Yeah, that's another failed exit strategy from the
Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group, where we could not
put together the white paper.
I said, well, think of the good news.
It says you're a dog walker.

(01:11:42):
They're going to have to have professional dog
walkers because it specifically says people who walk
their dogs.
They don't want people out of the house.
So if this is true, then don't you
have a 78% higher chance of contracting
COVID, catching COVID if you just walk outside
in general, even with a mask?

(01:12:02):
I don't understand the logic of this.
Oh, no, no, no.
You're missing the whole point.
The nasty little COVID guys, they're floating around
as an aerosol.
They land on the dog's fur, and then
you walk the dog into the house and
the dog is covered with these things.
Oh, man.
Doggy shampoo.
It's like fleas.
Doggy shampoo.
We got special COVID doggy shampoo.

(01:12:24):
There's all kinds of product opportunities.
That's some money, by the way.
We've got exit strategies right here.
You nailed it.
Hi, I'm Adam Curry.
I used to hate dogs until I found
the love of my pooch with the new
COVID shampoo.
Only one end of show mix for today,
everybody.
It'll be the full Jeff Smith Build Back
Better song.

(01:12:44):
It is up for sale for any globalist
who would like to license it from the
No Agenda Gitmo Nation Jeff Smith Publishing Company,
which now exists.
Oh, you imagine how much dough we could
make if that thing became a hit worldwide?
The sync writes alone.
Oh, my God.
There's your exit strategy, everybody.

(01:13:05):
Make sure you turn on your favorite globalist
to this next song.
In the EU, a fantastic...
This could have been a Curry-Dvorak consulting
group exit strategy.
I am beating myself over my head that
we missed this opportunity.
I'm very, very disappointed in myself, in you

(01:13:25):
as a consulting partner, founding consulting partner, and
probably very disappointed in our associates known as
producers of the show that no one came
up with this.
This must be really bad.
You're scolding everybody.
97-year-old Colette Dupas, a nursing home
resident in Jumon, France, has been taking precautions
against COVID-19.

(01:13:47):
She's been limited to speaking with her family
via video call or through a window, but
now Dupas is able to feel their touch
through plastic, thanks to an inflatable tunnel known
as the Hug Bubble.
Baby, it even has one of our names,
the Hug Bubble.
This thing is fantastic.
We could have manufactured them overnight.

(01:14:07):
Dupas' daughters recently visited her, putting one arm
through an airtight sealed plastic sleeve to reach
their mother and stroke her hair.
Stephanie Lazo is an assistant at the nursing
home.
It has brought comfort.
Residents would see their relatives through a window
or through a camera, and they were really
missing having real contact, and they are getting

(01:14:29):
a lot of love.
Before Dupas' daughters left, they took turns kissing
their mother on the cheek through the plastic.
After guests leave, an employee disinfects the plastic
sheet to prepare for another loving encounter in
the Hug Bubble.
Do you see the problem?
Do you see the problem?

(01:14:50):
Hug Bubble.
It is disgusting.
I mean, and it's, all it is, is
it's a bouncy house, you know, a clear,
without the colorful pieces, a bouncy house castle
with two arms, and then your granny comes
up, you can stroke her hair with the
plastic.

(01:15:10):
It's, it's beyond sad.
Ugh.
Very, very, very upset we didn't come up
with that.
Damn it.
And also got one of our, one of
our producers saying, hey, I'm a dialysis technician.
Urea is one of the waste products excreted
in urine that we manually remove from people
during dialysis.

(01:15:31):
Your exit strategy is farming it from humans
that are having it removed during dialysis.
It gets a potassium and calcium to boot.
There you go.
We could be selling.
We could be like another Dan Quayle.
What?
Taking advantage of the, of the human systems.

(01:15:52):
Oh my goodness.
Well, I just got aphids.
There's another thing they like to eat.
I'd like to turn.
What's an aphid?
I'd like to turn that frown upside down
and introduce to you a sure fire.
100% you hear how weak, how weak
it is, how unprofessional, how it's just the
messaging is all wrong.

(01:16:14):
We can, we can come up with tomorrow's
caviar and it's cheap.
It's cheap.
We can have producers all over the world,
all over Gitmo Nation.
Keeping bugs.
Well, there'll be licensed.
There'll be, there will be licensed affiliates.
You know, we were franchising it and there

(01:16:35):
will be approved bugs, but we market it
as tomorrow's caviar.
Great in audio too.
It's a hard, the problem with the tech
grouch and actually the tech hippie too.
Yeah.
Is that I developed these voices for him.
And the tech grouch in particular was painful.

(01:16:56):
Oh, it hurts your throat.
And it hurts your throat.
Yeah.
And I try to make adjustments.
So I did, I need to go to
a voice coach to do that voice correctly.
Cause I was doing it incorrectly.
And I would, and I just said, wait,
wait, you went to a voice coach?
No.
I said, I need to go to coach
to have them show me how to do
that voice correctly without hurting my throat.

(01:17:18):
So all we need is like, as a
tech grouch saying something like, I was OTG
before the Unabomber was in the woods, something
like that.
You know, that'd be good for the show.
Well, you can write the material if you
want.
Will you perform?
Most of that was ad-libbed.
You are so talented.
Yeah.
We could do that one of these days.
Yeah.

(01:17:38):
We'll put it on the list of great
projects.
Exit strategies galore everybody.
ITM.
We had a great meetup in Pittsburgh yesterday.
We met at a park with a fireplace
that we use, but it was still pretty
chilly out.
After making cinnamon rolls and candied bacon to
bring, I wanted to also have a healthier
option.
So I made deviled eggs.

(01:17:59):
But after 10 minutes in 20 degree weather,
they froze into eggsicles.
Sad.
The more you know.
Wait a minute.
Stop.
Stop.
Eggsicles.
Are you kidding me?
Eggsicles.
You're going to kill him there.

(01:18:20):
The more you know, she continues.
And thank you.
I have a feeling that eggsicles.
It could be a snack that children could
just get into around the world.
Think about it.
I mean, who doesn't love a deviled egg?
Now you could savor it for hours on
end.

(01:18:40):
I'm liking this.
I'm all in on it.
You've got karma.
I don't think Tina would be very happy
with this idea, which is she is from
California.
And probably she didn't do what I did,
which was take the course on sexual harassment,
employee, how to hire, how to fire the

(01:19:02):
thing that I was required to take.
And you never took ad media.
I fast forwarded through it.
Yes.
Yeah, you didn't take it.
The fact if you have this exemption in
hand and you give it to your employer
and they say they asked you one question.
You can sue them.
About your religion.

(01:19:22):
And then she says, well, then you can
go back and go talk to the you
can go back and talk to we can
get you some more backup.
And then no, no.
If they ask you one simple question, you
can sue them.
And she says, well, you don't want to
have a hassle with your employer.
The amount of money you can make from
suing your employer in California for something as

(01:19:45):
simple as them asking you about religion is
millions of dollars.
Hello.
Exit strategy.
Well, we just need to get employed to
each other.
It's never going to happen.
These are the employers.

(01:20:06):
But this is like and disinvites.
Another thing she overlooks again, even though she's
from California, she obviously never took the training.
No, she never did the work.
Nope.
There will be what you experienced, which are
the embedded scammers through state who get into

(01:20:29):
a company just long enough to look, look
at it here.
Look, look, right.
Yes.
Remember that Kleiner Perkins?
Yeah.
Find the open spot, the open sore and
just go for the dough.
And they they'll bring down tens of millions
of dollars.
There's so much opportunity here in California.

(01:20:49):
She doesn't realize this when she says, well,
we have to work.
You know, that's bullcrap.
Maybe, maybe, wait, wait, wait.
Maybe that's because she wants you to come
back to her and her lawyer pals because
that's that's their gold mine.
They're not charging anything for this.
It's a value for value model.
Yeah, but yes.
And the value is once you have a
problem, you come back to us and then
we screw your Yeah, I'm sure that's just

(01:21:11):
minor.
The and if you're the person you were
just informing these everyone that if you have
this opportunity and I think that document, if
you imagine it being signed and then notarized,
yeah, look, it needs a raise.
It was pretty good.
Yeah.
Raised seal and everything.
Yeah, it would look pretty good.
And you take it in and say, OK,
whatever.

(01:21:31):
So should the employee most employees don't give
a crap.
We always joke about our exit strategy.
But I think there's one that may actually
work for us.
A real exit strategy.
Are you ready for it?
I'm all ears.
The hot things with it's so hot.
All the kids are doing it.
Even the NBA is doing it.

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Have you heard of NFTs?
It's the new hockey strike means fine tobacco.
No, no, no.
NFT stands for non fungible token.
And this is being used with digital media,
either a piece of art or a piece

(01:22:14):
of video.
And this one image is marked and registered
on a block chain, which is finite.
So there can no no extra tokens can
be included.
And I'll and I'll give you the example
of the NBA.
The NBA.
It's like trading.
It's like trading cards.
And there's only one of each.

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And your ownership of it is proven on
the block chain.
And these things are going for millions of
dollars.
It's the ultimate collectible.
It is digital.
You don't have to send anything.
And people pay in in cryptocurrency to have
ownership of these tokens, of these of these

(01:22:58):
digital assets.
And this thing is huge.
I hope it's as good as my one
square inch of the moon.
It's very similar to that with the NBA.
So you can you can buy them, but
then you can also trade them.
And so the value goes up.
And as people are trading these digital assets,
the NBA is making money off of the

(01:23:22):
trading.
And so I was thinking, what could we
possibly do?
And I came up with the following idea.
What if we had an NFT for the
no agenda episodes and the initial price of
each individual item would be complete ownership of

(01:23:42):
an episode?
And episode one would go up for sale
for $1.
Episode 1325 would go up for sale for
$1,325.
Do you see the Ponzi building?
Well, there's no Ponzi.
Ponzi implies that you're shoveling what you make
back into the deal.

(01:24:03):
We're not.
We're just taking it.
Yeah.
These things are crazy hot.
Wasn't there something worth thinking of turning into
a market?
Well, this is it.
This is it.
We could do jingles.
We could do the artwork.
We could we could be selling by the
time we're done.
We'll be millionaires and we'll have nothing left.
We'll have no ownership.

(01:24:27):
Look them up.
OK, how that would work.
I'm identifying this as a huge deal.
The NBA is doing it.
So it's legal.
Yeah, if the NBA is doing it, then,
you know, everything's on the up and up.
Yeah.
I'm very excited about it.
Very excited about this.
Whereas we thought Bitcoin was Beanie Babies.
This NFT stuff, it's truly the analog.

(01:24:50):
It is the Beanie Babies of cryptocurrency.
And it's very scammy.
And my after some research, my initial thought
was we really want nothing to do with
this.
And then I thought, wait a minute.
What if all of the producers, what if
we all got in on the scam?
Because you can program who gets what when

(01:25:12):
you sell it.
And we drive this thing up like crazy
and sell it all to some suckers who
think that this thing is hot, even though
it's really just a complete pump and dump
by the no agenda nation.
You know, it's like collusion, full on insider
trading.
I mean, can we do this?
It's called conspiracy to commit a felony.
It's not a felony.
What do you mean?

(01:25:32):
It will be.
We can get it under the wire if
we do it now.
You're no fun.
You're no fun.
I'm all game.
You're game for this, by the way.
I'm not completely objecting to it.
Oh, OK.
So we've got to work it out a
little bit.
But in essence, we just have to get
people buying and selling this and tapping it

(01:25:53):
up a little bit every single time and
until some sucker comes in.
And we have to have trust in the
group, right?
You have to have trust that if someone
buys something for 500 bucks, that there will
be someone there who's going to buy it
for 501 because that person will know.
So we all have to have some kind
of code so we can identify fellow travelers.

(01:26:14):
And the minute you're above, let's say, $10
,000, it's not like you're starting the communist
party the way you're doing this.
I'm sorry.
I'm exit strategy.
I need a vacation.
No agenda.
Art generator dot com.
For all your NFT joy, it's using that
to mine Bitcoin.
And and so that's changing.

(01:26:34):
But I had a I would like to
go with this.
And I think we should look at everything
in our green economy.
We should look at everything this way.
How much electricity does it cost to do
that?
And you can shame people on that.
And I think if you are a podcaster
and you are worried about how much electricity

(01:26:56):
is being wasted, you need to make shorter
podcasts.
Much, much shorter.
All podcasts for green energy should be no
longer than 15 minutes.
Really, you have a green podcast.
It should have a label.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
Green, green podcast.

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No, no, we need a word.
Green podcast, seal of approval, podcast, podcast, green
podcast certified.
No, it has to be something better than
that.
Come on, it would be it wouldn't take
us more than a few minutes to dream
something up that would work.
And you being the inventor of the process
and the promoter of podcasting 2.0, you're

(01:27:39):
in a perfect position to be part of
this.
Yes.
What does a LEED stand for?
LEED is the certification, right?
What?
LEED, L-E-E-D.
That's the that's the certification for buildings, leadership
and energy and environmental design.
LEED that they have the certification.
So maybe we should just make it PEED.
PEED.

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There you go.
No, that doesn't sound.
That's it.
Exactly.
PEED, your podcast is PEED certified.
Nice.
We need a logo.
It needs to look like the LEED logo
or it'll just say PEED.
No, it needs to look, you know, that
little kid that's on the back of vans
that's peeing on something.

(01:28:20):
Or like the little guy.
There's your logo right there.
We just licensed that.
You too can have an official piss pod.
I mean, it just keeps writing itself, John.
Oh, yeah.
OK, potential exit strategy, ladies and gentlemen.
We have enough stuff to deal with.
But if it's audio only, OK, then it

(01:28:41):
makes it silly.
There's one thing that I had to thought
about.
If someone hasn't already done this, you might
want to consider it.
Clubhouse.
I mean, I've not been on there.
I've seen plenty of videos.
I'm not interested at all.
Please only see videos if it's audio only
because the people record it and then post
their the screen recording of their phone where

(01:29:03):
you see the little icons light up when
they're talking and they record it.
That's how you record the clubhouse meeting.
So it's a video of of what people
look at on their phone, which is just
a screen filled with people on stage or
not or in the audience.
What I don't understand is why anyone is
wasting any time on this.
You need to go straight to corporate this

(01:29:24):
thing, this conference call app.
That's what it is.
It's a conference call app should be sold
as a conference call app.
It would revolutionize conference calls.
Conference calls in business suck ass.
The free numbers suck.
They're horrible.
They're no good.
This is perfect.
You can moderate.
You can give someone the microphone, bring them

(01:29:45):
up on stage.
You can shut people down.
This is a great product for business for
for people.
It is destructive and stupid just as a
consumer app.
Well, that's what sounds like an exit strategy.
And I didn't want to mention this baby
over to business.
Yes, we could.
We too can just license the Chinese back

(01:30:07):
in technology.
That's where they get it from.
Yeah.
All of the Chinese a license to anybody.
Best price.
Best price.
One of our dudes named Ben might want
to help us along.
Help us exit.
Yes, we need a dude named Ben that
can help us on this because we're too
old.
Speak for yourself, young man.
Time to exit.
Time to exit.

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First of all, they did mention the forgery
issue, which is something you should be concerned
about if you do want to actually take
this seriously, even though there's no reason to.
And then you can have a discussion of
that at the same time, promoting somebody tweeting
pictures of their card, which then can be
extracted from the tweet or the Instagram post.

(01:30:51):
And you can cut and paste and create
your own cards.
Although as I because I brought this up
before on the show, somebody sent me a
link.
I think it was Wyoming's.
I think it was the Wyoming State Health
Department.
They actually have the card online printable.
If you're a doctor, you just go to

(01:31:13):
this link and you download the card, print
it on some card stock.
John, John, you're pretty good with the GIMP
exit strategy, baby.
Making fake, fake vaccination cards.
We take Bitcoin.
Now, the question in my mind is, if
that's true, why does the testing have to

(01:31:36):
involve going up the nose and down the
throat when your mouth is obviously filled with
covid viruses or you wouldn't need these rules?
I'll make I'll do you one better on
this.
And I'm very, very excited about this.
NASCAR just announced at the Atlanta Motor Speedway,

(01:31:57):
they will be using covid detecting dogs.
And I'm very excited because if this is
true.
OK, that's the topper.
If this is true, you win the show.
Then then if this is true, then you
can don't swab me.
Just have your dog sniff me.
That happens at the airport.

(01:32:17):
I'm OK.
In fact, NASCAR went so far as to
say in a bulletin sent to teams, quote,
these dogs have shown to be as effective
as PCR tests in identifying an infected person
and are already being used by professional sports
teams, hospitals and many other businesses to screen

(01:32:39):
employees and guests.
Well, this is fantastic.
And it's an exit strategy.
We have nothing but dog people listening to
the show.
We need to immediately go start training, certifying.
Well, that that brings up and we have
a distributed dog covid sniff dog sniffing protection

(01:33:01):
system.
We can rent everybody's dog out.
This brings that brings it to the fore,
which is how do you train a dog
to do this?
Well, we'll get we'll get the you just
don't tell the dog, hey, dog.
That's why you're sniffing around, which you seem
to be doing all day.
It's all you do.

(01:33:21):
Can you when you spot a covid person,
can you let us know?
Let's see.
We'll be working.
Who is this?
This is NASCAR.
We'll be working with this 360 canine group,
a provider of specialized detection dogs that serves
industries ranging from the federal government, sports teams,
cruise lines, hospital and other large venues.

(01:33:43):
So this is already rolling out, but it's
not being talked about.
They've they've worked with the USDA since 2013
to detect viruses in plants with great operational
success.
So I guess you just you know, you
just take an infected swab oozing with the
covid and say here Fido Sniffy.

(01:34:05):
Their newest company, Biodetection K9.
Oh, that's a that's a that's a TV.
There goes your exit strategy.
They got to get the name Biodetection K9.
Oh, man.
Yeah, shoot.
Now, meanwhile, in America, mainstream media.
And finally, if you like mac and cheese,
you'll love this craft has created the first

(01:34:25):
ever grilled cheese incense to make your home
smell cheesy all the time.
Yeah, baby, that's America.
Foam finger.
Number one, you're rocking it.
If who wants to go into somebody's house,
that stinks of cheap, it's beyond cheap cheddar.
This is a cheap scent.
It's probably just chemicals that are they heat

(01:34:48):
up and it makes it smell like a
like cheap cheese.
Really?
You've got to think that maybe there was
an accident in the lab.
I'm like, wow, what is this crap?
Hey, I had that.
I have an idea.
We'll turn it into a candle.
Hey, now exit strategy.
There's a thought.
What about actual mac and cheese candles?

(01:35:10):
OK, maybe not burn.
Now, meanwhile, in America, mainstream media.
And finally, if you like mac and cheese,
you'll love this craft has created the first
ever grilled cheese incense to make your home
smell cheesy all the time.
Yeah, baby, that's America.
Foam finger.
Number one, you're rocking it.

(01:35:32):
All right, time.
Have
a
good one.

(01:35:58):
Thanks for your service.
I'm McNuggets with the about actual mac and
cheese candles out of real okay maybe not
it'll burn the FTC and if somebody as
some of the group was during the Obama
administration made a huge fuss about people on
Twitter in specifically yeah pretending to like something

(01:36:19):
because they got paid to pretend to like
it right and there was supposed to now
they had to be disclosed you had to
disclose doing this yeah that's what I thought
well I don't see any disclosures going on
on tick-tock that woman's little bust out
there which I thought was admirable on her
part I would say indicates that there's a

(01:36:40):
bunch of people that you seem to go
or showing up taking the vaccine and getting
paid this is against the law that's what
I was thinking that that's not the way
it's supposed to work where's the enforcement we
need to follow the rules well there's some

(01:37:05):
it's a law it's not a rule it's
a law and it's being broken left and
right and nobody's doing anything about they should
be arresting people left and right and throwing
him in jail that's what I think the
United States Center for Disease Control and Prevention
has reached an agreement with popular video game
deals Twitter account Wario 64 yes wario see

(01:37:28):
this coming wario 64 has about 900,000
followers on Twitter and they've come to an
agreement so that the Twitter account not saying
that's a person a company I just the
Twitter account wario 60 for 64 will now
be paid to announce kovat 19 vaccine availability
nationwide I mean these are good little deals

(01:37:49):
you can get from the government today shit
man exit strategy would just reverse everything take
some dough tell everyone vaccines are great and
then we'll split it all we'll make everybody
whole on the back end but those are
those are customers and you have to pay

(01:38:10):
for this system and so Apple communicates with
them and I got an email hey podcaster
we're gonna tell you about this new stuff
and it's probably going on right now they
just started actually they so that so that
you know that's the Apple customer who is
not a customer of Apple is these app

(01:38:32):
developers they don't pay Apple to use their
API it was just an accident that it
was available and so within Apple when these
changes occurred there was no one representing app
developers who were sucking off this index and
so they weren't considered and it just got
turned off overnight it's just it's a complete
mess and they're not gonna try and fix

(01:38:52):
that so with some from the future foresight
this podcast index dot org turns out to
be a lifesaver I mean we've like big
shows are just gone not available on any
app anywhere Wow yeah well you lucked out
women lucked out you got the you got
you got the index there for people to

(01:39:14):
fall back on anyone's paying us for this
I'm just saying a podcasting lucked out that's
what happened well they're not paying you but
eventually you're gonna monetize this thing and screw
them just like Apple did since you just
expose my exit strategy I'm cutting you out
of the deal Dvorak and this is this

(01:39:36):
is I feel very very bad because this
is going to this is exactly what the
World Economic Forum has predicted you're not gonna
own anything slave not because you won't don't
want to because you can't and people are
talking about prices doubling in the next year
doubling what is going on what is going
on that's just it said these things blow

(01:39:59):
up of course because these ideas are perpetual
right but that'll cause a huge crash if
that happens won't it I don't know I
don't know what's gonna maybe should just sit
tight and then make even more money when
you sell the house if you can but
then again there's always the up there's a
collapse that's what I'm saying eventually has got
to be a clap who knew that my
exit strategy would be the house most people's

(01:40:22):
exit strategies the house yeah that's why it's
a shame that the Millennials haven't been able
to get in on this yeah the property
ladder is important like symptoms and that was
conflated with the kovat numbers yeah I think
you know what bothers me and it's a
problem that you and I have with this
particular show a year ago we pretty much

(01:40:43):
had already figured most of these things out
we figured out the droplets we think you
know we had the numbers we saw the
flu cases were gone long before that was
recognized we looked at you know the the
true data we you know we saw the
the bait-and-switch charts and graphs they
kept pulling up I think Osterholm still thinks

(01:41:03):
we're gonna die next week and you know
the gain-of-function research all of this
stuff all of this stuff we have talked
about and of course branded by many as
kovat deniers and nutjobs conspiracy theorists yes and

(01:41:24):
and then it comes out we're doing is
playing clips I might add Adam Curry's a
nutjob and the only by the way I
think you should sue him for not actually
being a nutjob I think it was libelous
what he said oh interesting exit strategy an

(01:41:44):
attorney about the exit strategy anybody John and
I yes I'm talking to the trolls now
we had an idea to really do a
morning zoo type episode of a show yeah
and and we were talking about this after
the after the last show actually and we've
already put together the cast but we did

(01:42:07):
we're missing we're missing one important member so
to review for a morning zoo show now
I are you gonna be my sidekick or
am I your sidekick it doesn't matter much
well I'm thinking about I'm thinking about producing
the the thing and making Darren O'Neill
your sidekick that's all he has to say

(01:42:27):
by the way and then he can
he can do yes okay I think that's
a so you're the producer you're your coach
coach John you got to have a name
you gotta have a name you can't you
can't you can't you can't just be John

(01:42:51):
C Dvorak you so your coach John no
I had to ask them serve MK ultra
John or something jmk I don't know we'll
come up with it that's the least of
our problems our real problem we're gonna discuss
right now yes okay so here's the crew
because you need a crew for the morning
zoo so we got me we got Darren
we got coach JCD known as the Widowmaker

(01:43:14):
then we figured we need to have the
now we need a woman who also who
is there and does stuff like Oh Adam
and and she also reads the news and
that that is obviously Dame Jennifer and she
says snide things besides just Oh Adam give

(01:43:36):
me an example of something snide well in
other words if there be some moment where
there's something that could be a double entendre
she's the one who introduces oh right right
right she okay oh that's what she said
would come from her this is gonna be
legendary now then we needed actually we wanted

(01:43:59):
a well you can't be coach me the
coach for sports and in sports when it
comes to morning zoo format you want a
guy who is familiar with sports but can
also be the community affairs director and and
we'll call him coach and has to be
a black guy and since we only know
one black guy it's got to be Mo
yeah Mo Faxon sports he's a sports guy

(01:44:22):
so we can do it and then the
final thing is where we're stuck we're stuck
and that is the the entertainment reporter that
has to be a gay guy and has
to sound like a gay guy we talked
about this and we decided because of today's
today's market you can't have a guy who

(01:44:44):
sounds gay we have to have a genuine
gay person you gotta have a gay guy
yes yeah but he has to also sound
gay which is a stereotype mostly on found
on the West Coast it's a West Coast
gay because everyone in the rest of the
country they bitch you everyone I've listened enough
talk shows and podcasts where the gays get

(01:45:06):
together and complain about this accent yeah of
course that the West Coast guys have and
it's the it's the Hollywood gay bullcrap both
phony baloney gay ish sound but but so
we have requirements not you have to sound
gay but you also have to be gay
yeah you have to be gay and we
were taking auditions so yeah I was supposed

(01:45:28):
to have a script ready I won't have
it already probably until the Thursday show because
we want everyone to read from the same
script I'm gonna hound so we have to
hound you over this and we need to
get that it will definitely get it written
we need to get that yeah we'll have
a so they have to do this and
they have to do it in their best
manner best Matt get this you know it
said we were up for criticism for even

(01:45:50):
bringing this kind of thing up well what's
interesting is I'm already seeing but if anybody
wants to audition yeah and just so you
know the reason why ours our entertainment reporter
has to has to be gay because that's
the rules in Hollywood in case you hadn't
noticed you can't play someone on the spectrum
unless you're on the spectrum everyone knows this
now so we're just following the rules man

(01:46:11):
every day all day without exception yeah if
you go if you watch any of these
shows or but the reason that this formula
comes to mind is because this is if
anyone has a morning zoo show in their
neighborhood you'll notice that this is pretty much
the model that everyone uses because it's a
it works because it's so exciting and fun

(01:46:33):
to listen to I don't know if it's
still working that well and there's a lot
of banter banter between the two hosts and
the gay Hollywood guy oh yeah totally yeah
and then and that's when Jennifer jumps in
and says that's what she said you know
that's just in there we're talking to the
to the entertainment guy and then Dame Jennifer

(01:46:55):
comes in with that it's gonna be beautiful
it will be a piece of legend doing
a pilot we're doing a pilot oh my
god okay we're doing a half hour pilot
who's writing this pilot because it can't be
I'll be doing a lot of the writing
but most of it's just gonna be ad
-libs obviously because you know doing a morning

(01:47:17):
show we would I think a lot of
these shows have some music no they have
all kinds of music beds running underneath when
they're talking there's all kinds of yeah we
can do that yeah so it'll be good
I'm very excited might get work it's this
is our final exit strategy it's on you

(01:47:38):
anonymous gay guy out there who's gonna save
us and they go and these drivers that
go out and it's every night it's all
over Austin they're parking they're driving they're comparing
their systems and the base is reverberates for
miles and you know I was just as
you're describing this they have those in parts

(01:47:59):
of California right but we're that's one of
the reasons we're moving but how about this
for a exit strategy oh oh another one
you produce some tapes or CDs in the
case of depends on the gear and you
go from you find these guys there's a
bunch of them there's hundreds of them they
have these systems and you have them play

(01:48:21):
these things through neighborhoods which are announcements attention
citizens and it would be like it would
be like those old members in the movies
you see the car going down with the
big bullhorns on its roof yes and it
would be today there's a sale on it
Rayleigh's asparagus is 99 cents a pound so

(01:48:44):
we're going to we're gonna become sellers of
advertising space in this medium is that you're
right no one else is doing it okay
I'll take it into consideration eyes I mean
I don't know what you're talking about did
no sound effects where

(01:49:16):
was the horse where was the horse was
it a farm horse a Dre horse was
it a horse what kind of horse stay
safe that's how you do a report that's
why did why don't whatever happened to people

(01:49:42):
going in to the TV studio and hijacking
it where are those good old days I
think that they put in countermeasures so you
can't really do it hmm too bad those
days were fun you know and we could
go in this NPR station take over so
get out of the way lady you're boring
killing us with that nobody listens what good

(01:50:05):
is it gonna do there's that okay okay
I'm just trying to think of exit strategies
that's the way they're pretty yeah permitless yes
permitless carry I've been out here we read
that now you don't need a permit or
training just buy a gun just that everywhere
that's correct there's a vending machine you can
pick up a Ruger oh my god great
idea I think I will get one going

(01:50:26):
that would be a great business just have
a Ruger vending machine on the street I
think so too at the airport on your
way out you can get the iPod you
can get a you know extra battery pack
and a blow-up pillow and there's a
Ruger and here's a 9 mil it's perfect
that's a good idea all right another exit

(01:50:48):
strategy is in the works we may not
even return Thursday right place at right time
yeah yeah what are we doing wrong bro
what are we doing wrong John everything we
do is wrong all right well here's my
exit strategy my personal exit strategy I was
so happy to hear a US senator speak

(01:51:10):
in these terms it is US Senator Loomis
who is Loomis l-u-m-m-i
-s newbie she's one of the I think
she's one of the radical Republicans radical Republicans
I think I don't know I just never
mind what I just said I don't know
what I could be it could be I'm
just curious I'm I've heard her name I

(01:51:31):
think it's a woman yes she's new Cynthia
Marie the new Trumpers I think she's a
Trump oh wait now she has a fulness
it's Cynthia Marie Loomis Peter Spahn oh is
an American politician and attorney serving as the
junior United States senator from Wyoming is she's

(01:51:52):
the first woman to represent Wyoming in Senate
a member of the Republican Party she served
as the u.s. representative for aiming at
a large congressional district from 2009 2017 okay
she's all in on the Bitcoin not just
for herself but also for the state of
Wyoming I like this report senator Cynthia Loomis
of Wyoming is the founder of the financial
innovation caucus in Congress she's been a major

(01:52:14):
advocate for cryptocurrencies on Capitol Hill and I
sat down with her for CNBC's financial advisor
summit and she told me she envisions Bitcoin
in particular becoming an important component of individual
retirement portfolios she believes it can serve as
a hedge against inflation as the size of
the nation's debt relative to GDP hits historic
highs I encourage people to buy and hold

(01:52:35):
I encourage them to say Bitcoin for their
retirement for their future and that's because as
the Congress spends trillions and trillions of dollars
and is flooding our economy and the world
economy with US dollars there's no way that
we cannot debase the value of the US

(01:52:56):
dollars and Loomis practices which she preaches she's
an investor in Bitcoin as well I buy
Bitcoin and I hold Bitcoin you buy Bitcoin
oh yeah you have Bitcoin I do how
much Bitcoin do you have well I only
have I think five only five Bitcoin but
she bought them in 2013 for about $300
each so she can now add a couple
of zeros to that number and Wyoming is

(01:53:19):
in the process setting of setting up its
own crypto banking system that Loomis hopes will
become a model for other states as well
so we have El Salvador Mexico now Mexican
banks now starting Paraguay and now the state
of Wyoming with their own I don't know
what's wrong with gold but okay nothing's wrong
with gold I don't think people are against
gold at all but okay no it seems

(01:53:40):
like they are no that the only thing
different between Bitcoin and gold is it's a
lot easier to pay with can I have
the antibodies test so I'm negative for kovat
negative for antibodies and she told me she
said there's actually evidence and she's a she
was a nurse in hospitals as well that
babies that drank breast milk from mothers who

(01:54:04):
had antibodies had antibodies and I'm thinking exit
strategy product seriously I mean it's made by
nature it's what you just heard because that
was now again what you just heard was
someone got the vaccination right and it was
the spike proteins that got into the milk

(01:54:26):
and I know I'm just saying that was
an interesting side note but this is this
so what she's taught what she discussed earlier
was the so-called self spreading vaccines we've
we've talked about that at least we've seen
it I think we talked about it briefly
and that would be through the use of
these exosomes nice I recently supported a SPAC
huh a SPAC white paper 250 listed SPACs

(01:54:49):
from 2018 to 2021 for my firm I
believe things are developing with the SEC intervention
slash adaption to allow SPACs to become more
typical a more typical vehicle for public listening
any input from John well I I think
you're probably right can you please send me
the list yeah I mean you got yeah

(01:55:12):
I mean I want to you can you
send me a note John a Dvorak DVR
DV or AK dot org and I wanted
because I think there's some SPAC opportunities that
are because when these things take off I
mean it's you're talking about one week 10
bagger it's like ludicrous investment so yeah like
$10,000 10 bagger means 10x Wow exit

(01:55:36):
strategy bring on the SPACs you know speaking
of exit strategy one presented itself to us
just out of the blue yeah yeah there's
a whole Twitter thread this one person's like
hey I really like the Noah Jenner show
I'm trying to figure out the lingo and
Tina the Keeper jumped in you know people
explaining what certain things certain things meant but

(01:55:58):
then I got this tweet I haven't I
haven't replied to it yet please excuse the
noob question but what is that no agenda
Zephyr economic indicator I've searched on trading view
but I can find nothing of the sort
the trading view is a charting program where
you can do technical analysis I was thinking
we should have Horvitz make one of those

(01:56:21):
you know indicators it's just a little code
that would be the no agenda Zephyr economic
indicator you people subscribe to those those indicators
like you know 20 bucks a month they
do they do I'm just a thought I
don't know if that's an exit strategy but
it's a good idea just just thought I'd
bring it up I like the idea myself
that is why there is so much fear

(01:56:42):
in the country about what this means for
Rowe because they didn't stop Texas and the
idea of pitting neighbors against each other colleagues
snitching on each other because someone is desperately
trying to potentially desperately trying to safeguard their
health in the house and made perhaps the
health of their their unborn child this is

(01:57:04):
just all right all right all right
you need to you need to bend over
because this is well-deserved that was a
great clip damn Skippy so you're trying to
protect a health of the unborn child by

(01:57:28):
killing it I would like to reiterate this
point that I am completely okay with abortions
as long as we are also and we
get the television rights able to show capital
punishment executions live on television I think that
is a fair trade-off death for death

(01:57:48):
we want the rights to produce yeah that's
the exit strategy that make us multimillionaires but
unfortunately it's never gonna not gonna happen oh
my god by the way the most dangerous
bike ever drove was a Honda 50 well
the one doesn't go it doesn't stop it
just doesn't go it doesn't stop so you
get it going you know you finally gets

(01:58:09):
up to some speed you can't stop the
damn thing so that is a death trap
I'm glad they took him off the market
my last ride was a motocross it was
a celebrity ride and I had always ridden
like 125 maybe a 250 they gave me
a KTM 450 and I went up on

(01:58:29):
the like the table jump and I landed
and somehow my wrist just kind of went
down and the bike shot off and I've
landed flat on my back and that was
it I couldn't I couldn't poop straight for
a year after that when we're doing this
show when that happened I have no idea
it's a horrible story well let's start off
with our donations yes instead of our tales

(01:58:51):
of whoa tales of old dudes and bikes
hey that's another exit strategy as I hear
that car talk is gone so it can
be old dudes with bike talk yeah what
do you need a special bottle for if
you can't get your special bottles once you
get the 750s that are very common and
available and use those instead of the funny
shape 750 that you obviously have custom-made

(01:59:14):
because you can't get them for some unknown
reason it doesn't make any sense this story
nothing's gonna die in the vats well I
actually had a thought about this how about
jugging the wine up if you know you
know you're close you're close I'm thinking stay
with me because we are uniquely positioned for
this this is an exit strategy no agenda

(01:59:36):
box wine think about it well I don't
have to be shame I'm game for no
agenda box wine except for there's a couple
problems one most of these places have bottling
facilities on site the bottling facility to make
boxed wines is specialized equipment that would cost

(01:59:56):
more than it's worth really I thought well
then why do they even put it in
boxes if it's so franzia and those guys
who make the boxed wine they're the inventors
of it pretty much or fran fran's got
some European companies we can't just go that's
what they have they have this specialized equipment
that makes boxed wines we can't just order
from them a whole bunch of boxes you'd

(02:00:18):
have to get the wine to them and
they'd have to job it to you I
don't think it would be I mean there
are other people making boxed wines I've noticed
them you know these different kinds of generic
boxed wines at Target has a bunch of
crazy labeled right this is where we should
label in Target we should be in Target
with a dynamite packaging and it should be
like you know it should be an Easter

(02:00:39):
egg where people like dude have you tried
the new no agenda box wine it's like
that's just really good yeah John C.
Dvorak renowned that would actually this is what
I'm saying this I have had good boxed
wines it's always French how about no agenda
so you could there is a possibility of
making boxed wine that's quality wine in the

(02:01:02):
United States I've just never had it right
I'm just thinking ahead you know for when
we're 80 well you know it's we could
have we could have a whole line game
for this I'm game to build out a
boxed wine company yes no agenda woke wine
would be one and walk wine well I

(02:01:23):
think we want to have some other sub
labels perhaps woke just a wine for you
big black letters woke it's the wine for
the progressive liver yeah and actually progressive light
progressives believe it or not are the ones
who drink a lot of the boxed wine

(02:01:44):
because they don't know any better and they
put it in the refrigerator that's what's cool
about especially the whites go on the box
goes in the refrigerator and you go and
would you like a glass of wine honey
and you go open the refrigerator door and
you squirt out some of the boxed wine
into a glass and you bring it out
just some shard for you and I say
that shard shard for you shard or so

(02:02:08):
it's a pre pinot grigio by the way
we had a guy at time I got
to get this winemakers name the guy was
up at the wait wait woke wine it's
the wine for the progressive generation come on
man I'm feeling it I'm in shard for
you I mean there's shard it's never ending
I'm

(02:02:42):
so happy I got you excited I thought
I was not gonna Merlot no how about
that Merlot no yes I know and think
about the fantastic art we could have and
you know so and and by the way
we'll put lost dogs on our carton we

(02:03:03):
got to bring in more of these great
elements like the lost dog yeah it would
be huge idea of a big black cube
though just as the art for woke sounds
about a just a black cube with the
word cab on the side and huge letters
I'd like Franklin either there wouldn't be Franklin
gothic you'd want some serif font but you

(02:03:25):
just have it on there because it was
super bold super heavy yeah I'm I'm so
I'm so well shit man someone already has
woke wine calm what the hell there goes
our exit strategy no it's still available you
can buy it for three and a half
thousand dollars power you can lease to own

(02:03:47):
did you think you can lease a domain
name only 292 dollars a month how much
292 a month it's least to own least
to own about woke dot wine I think
there's a dot wine I think this is
I think we have we have a product
here and our everyone can chip in everyone
can work about it and work out and

(02:04:07):
maybe they can chip in chip in yes
chip in maybe we probably have a producer
that listens to show that knows all about
box wines probably works for one of the
big wine boxing companies oh and by the
way small batch oh yes small batch artisan
artisan box to wine there you go we

(02:04:32):
artisan and we need people are trolls are
already offering to invest in this project yeah
I know we this could be dynamite do
it one of those public one of those
there's a there's a type of investment you
can do yes that is where people you
know beer breweries do it constantly yes I'm

(02:04:54):
getting straight money in there boom next thing
you know we're the box wine guys yep
right who's gonna run it who's gonna run
the business oh we have to hire somebody
I know anyone we know we're just gonna
do we're gonna do auditions we're gonna like
job interviews auditions that's a funny way to
put it isn't that what it is yeah

(02:05:16):
kinda would I think what we should put
this and we put it on the on
the burner on the it's on the burner
ladies and gentlemen it is on the burner
the woke wine but this is the one
that that has everybody really worried and this
comes from the Guardian just as reliable as
the Daily Mail Fox News check it out

(02:05:38):
is about to launch a 24-hour weather
channel and this has climate crisis researchers worried
about the channels reach to perpetuate misinformation and
advanced political goals through the weather this is
so obvious I'm pissed at us I'm pissed

(02:06:00):
at ourselves for not seeing this obvious exit
strategy this is start a weather channel that
that debunks yes what were we thinking yeah
well we weren't we weren't Fox weather Fox
weather everybody with Shep Smith bring him back
a 24-hour channel devoted to all things

(02:06:20):
meteor meteorological promises cutting-edge display technology hmm
forecasting experts surrounding every major weather event and
I bet there be panel discussions boots on
the ground panel I want to work for
this outfit this is that looks like fun
let's bring in our panel we'll talk about

(02:06:42):
yes we'll talk about the weather the wine
box the woke box with the 14 years
we felt wouldn't connect you know it's too
early in the exit strategy we're not we
haven't positioned it by the way in the
show notes today one of our mark don't
I don't I think you're on the email

(02:07:05):
he did two product shots of the no
agenda box wine known as woke wine yeah
woke wine oh my god it's so beautiful
what he's done it's bored b-o-r
-d for you and shard for you I
mean it's this product is real all we
need is some hooch to put in it

(02:07:25):
and we can sell there are a bunch
of private labelers that maybe can do the
job for us we need someone to step
in because this is big you know there's
an Austin box wine company that's doing up
upscale box wines who knew yeah well this
is the thing you have to do be
it has to be upscale because that's the
key yeah the question is do we spell
wine with an H or not that's no

(02:07:45):
well he's not yes I don't think that
was his goal his goal was to it
was the trumpet the greatness of diversity all
right let's back it up a little and
continue that's theater owners and producers and the
Actors Union co-signed a 17 page diversity
pledge with a group of artists called black

(02:08:06):
theater United they've agreed to set up trainings
and mentorship programs and they'll make sure that
creative teams aren't all white and that's something
that the dramatist guild which represents playwrights composers
and lyricists have done as well they've added
an inclusion rider to their contracts and then

(02:08:27):
there's an organization called the Broadway Advocacy Coalition
it just one night what did he just
say they're all white and that's something that
the dramatist guild which represents playwrights composers and
lyricists have done as well they've added an
inclusion rider to their contracts and then there

(02:08:47):
is an organization called the Broadway Advocacy Coalition
it just won a special Tony Award that's
young with some current Broadway shows the Lion
King company Tina is Jalien Livingston is a
member of the group and he says he
hopes the training sticks oh man this is

(02:09:09):
depressing I'd like me a musical yeah you
got two more this is it's worth it
it's worth it I'm kind of digging this
nut hey we go let's exit strategy exit
strategy for exit strategy the woke Awards what

(02:09:30):
do you think oh yeah yeah the woke
Awards nice had Freddie Mac Fannie Mae now
Nicky Mac they are collateralizing debt does it
sound anything like 2008-2009 where we're going
to have all of this stuff built into
these bonds and that is that's where the

(02:09:52):
money is it's trading these bonds as expertly
explained by Alison McDowell so this idea of
a social impact bond is essentially reimagining our
lives and social relationships as future debt projections
whether that's being educated whether that is health
care whether that is housing access or subsidies

(02:10:13):
food subsidies being involved in the judicial system
all of these have numbers attached to them
and then they say well if you can
if we can provide an evidence-based what
works intervention we will pay this much money
which is a smaller amount than we would
pay if you all these bad things happen
to you and we would have to pay
a lot more to fix you after the
fact we'll just preemptively fix you only the

(02:10:35):
problem is is essentially pre-crime now the
problem is is that the terms of these
agreements which are essentially privatizing government services privatizing
services that the government should just be de
facto providing but then the government through austerity
says we can't provide it unless we can
be assured that it works and so they
outsource it to these nonprofits to some of
whom are faith based nonprofits to do these

(02:10:56):
social welfare services under conditions of a performance
-based contract the profit isn't in the tiny
slice of return on investment it is actually
in the fact that they're gonna securitize all
the debt and that hedge funds are gonna
trade off of that debt the game can't
go unless you have the structure they can't
run the bets unless the game goes on

(02:11:16):
so they have to build the game and
that game is being built right now they
need all of the data to slosh around
in a big pool because they can't justify
taking profit off the fact that you didn't
become addicted if they can't track that against
some intervention they put you on in middle
school all of that data has to interlock
and that's what's going to come with digital

(02:11:38):
identity and that digital identity system is something
that the the worldwide web consortium has been
working on for like 15 years and I
had thought it was going to come through
education transcript records but clearly now it seems
like the much bigger plan is to have
it come through these medical passport protocols then
there you go Oh funny roundabout way to

(02:12:03):
get to the end now and it was
good so you brought up the 2008 debacle
so what we have to do is figure
out what is the equivalent what's the short
default swap what's the short no it's the
credit default swaps mm-hmm because it wasn't
shorted it was a day we just went

(02:12:23):
under you couldn't short those things yeah you
just picked up the insurance this is our
massive exit strategy is that what I'm hearing
of the plotting over beyond an exit strategy
this would be a massive amount of wealth
the whole no agenda get Monation could exit
oh yeah excellent now there's something that you

(02:12:44):
need to know which may offer an opportunity
for an exit strategy I know you're interested
I am Dame Angela from Vegas contacted me
and she says Adam things are going so
well I know she has a production company
and she's just Vegas had the biggest revenue
month last month of all time not pre

(02:13:05):
-kovat of all time he says the master
mandates pretty much gone all the all the
plexiglass that was separating all the players is
gone and everyone you know Adele is now
perform is getting ready to perform or the
residency so Vegas is back she's got business
she says I need to do something and
she is going to create and she has

(02:13:26):
the chops for it a documentary about get
Monation the producers specifically and value for value
and she's gonna set up a website and
people couldn't talk about the value that they
received from no agenda from no agenda nation
the value they've given back really about the
value for value aspect and she's going to

(02:13:48):
go to meetups and she's going to and
she wants of course into you and interview
me and then it hit me John Wow
and I said well I said well first
of all how can we help well interviews
would be great and promote on the show
of course no problem how you gonna make
money how do you gonna fund it just
well it has to be value for value
okay so she understands how to do that
and then I thought holy crap this is

(02:14:11):
it if there's one project that Adam Curry
and John C Dvorak can pull off for
an exit strategy with the companion documentary it
is the value for value book throw out
the pepper book throw out the vinegar book
this is the book we could do this

(02:14:33):
and it would be a classic for times
it could usher in a new economic structure
what pepper book I'm just making it up
well the real book not a giblet a
real book we both have to write here
I can tell you being in the book
business at times books are one shots they

(02:14:56):
go out they come out and then they
die they're not sustaining unless you set up
a seminar system where every month you have
to go on the road and you go
to some location and you talk to like
either free seminars or the if you want
to scam them into buying an upgrade or
some cheap $100 deal where you get maybe

(02:15:19):
a hundred people and you do that time
and time again and then you sell the
book at the end of the seminar and
you it's it's a dead end okay well
I can't write the book I'm not saying
you can't make some money from a book
and it would be a good book to
do and it's probably something that should be

(02:15:41):
done is do you can make some money
from seminars too but you know it's a
dead end and it's a grind that's worse
grind than we're doing well that's no exit
strategy then not if it's a grind I
thought it could be a fun book though
it could be a useful book we could
finally help people get out of the pricing
mechanism of Silicon Valley do it for the

(02:16:02):
children I agree we should do the book
anyway ah okay now you're talking let's just
do the book listen you know we can
maybe we set up a zoom masterclass we
just do the book okay we'll do the
book so I'm sure that we have pig
farmers we got hog farmers amongst our producers

(02:16:23):
let's let's get the inside dope yo on
the pig piss you know the idea that
somebody said they're burning pig urine out of
the blue which is what triggered my thinking
here yeah that this stuff doesn't come out
of nowhere the troll room blew up the
minute I brought it up they're like oh
pig pig piss pig piss and I didn't
know and then I'm reading this article and
it says it right there it said this

(02:16:45):
is actually it said something a little different
didn't it didn't say this is not true
it said what is it pig urine is
too funny here it is you may have
seen rumors rumors that's you trolls that it

(02:17:05):
contains pig urine but that is factually incorrect
no it's true it's factually incorrect because it's
not exactly exactly yeah it's treated as you
it's pasteurized pig piss there we go it's

(02:17:26):
pasteurized this and homogenized for your now can
we not can we not create this urea
with this or that's not this it's two
different things the urea is not the same
as the PPP the PPP yeah the past
right of clothing that's all pasteurized pig piss
PPP of the P3 I think that could

(02:17:47):
become a drink with the water buffalo milk
oh my god PPP with alcohol it's the
new white claw exit strategy hello if you
make a cool can and you put on
that can pig piss it will sell like

(02:18:08):
crazy it will sell like crazy especially in
the frat houses of Stanford our fraud waste
and abuse inspector checked in with me as
you know she's she's out there identifying fraud
waste and abuse in in everywhere she can

(02:18:28):
within the the medical sector and sent me
a screenshot of the Texas Human and Health
Services internal email just listen to this second
round of grant funding available through the Texas
vaccine outreach and education program this is this
is an exit strategy for us if we
weren't the way we are the Texas Department

(02:18:49):
of State and Health Services is in partnership
with Texas A&M Health announced the opening
of the second round of funding for the
Texas vaccine outreach and education grant program in
this round organization can apply for grants to
engage in vaccine education and outreach with the
goal of increasing the number of fully vaccinated
Texans against kovat 19 now this is an

(02:19:11):
interesting an interesting thing to get one of
these grants do you know what these grants
range from I'm holding on to my seat
from 50,000 to 1 million dollars so
to be a promotional operation you can get
a million dollars you tell people to get
vaxxed side of this coin that is starting

(02:19:31):
to make the virus look a little bit
more endemic now this might make some people
think well sounds like I'm going to get
it and it could boost my immunity without
a lot of risk so why not just
get it over with but Camille and others
say don't even think about it boosted even
if overcomes milder it still can be really
nasty even deadly don't forget about long kovat

(02:19:54):
Omicron is going to inflict enough carnage and
many scientists caution it's way too early to
conclude with any certainty that will be on
the right road after Omicron exit strategy idea
we need some kind of box that you
can hook up to you know your speakers
and whenever some messaging is coming through like
that it does put that echo on automatically

(02:20:17):
that was really beautiful because that's exactly what
it's intended for you will obey yeah that's
great good one good sweetening job some of
the activities it was addressed by a child
a couple months ago that they are put
in an environment where there are kids that
are that identify as a furry a cat

(02:20:38):
or a dog whatever and so yesterday I
heard that at least one of our schools
in our town has a in one of
the unisex bathrooms a litter box for the
kids that identify as cats and I am
really disturbed by that and I will do
some more investigation on that I know what's
going on nationwide I know it is it's

(02:20:59):
part of the agenda that's being pushed I
don't I don't even want to understand it
but I think that people need to be
aware of it because I am really upset
as a parent that my child is put
in an environment like that and you know
I'm all for creativity and imagination but when
someone lives in a fantasy world and expects
other people to go along with it I

(02:21:20):
have a problem with that dude that's a
great this is so I mean we have
furries who are producers of the show we
got no problem with that sure we love
your furries we got it we got our
trans women we got everything some one of
the kids to be pooping in that thing
well I'm thinking this may be a potential
exit strategy we can have kitty litter you

(02:21:42):
know approve people for furries furry litter which
will be approved for for children you know
we'll have it all organically tested make sure
no one's allergic to it and you know
we can actually have a contract to EU
standards you standards of kitty litter yeah I'm
kind of digging this but I can see

(02:22:03):
where the parents might be concerned it might
have some issue oh oh my goodness life
is great it's your podcast you put it
together you should be very proud of it
you'd be very proud that we still can
go on our merry way and continue because
we are not cancelable through advertising corporate money

(02:22:24):
etc we're not financially cancelable the only way
we can go away is either you stop
supporting us or we find the real exit
strategy I'm still looking for that one I
think we should revisit the human furry kitty
litter yeah I think that idea came and

(02:22:46):
went I think we're gonna go back to
the what you said at the end of
that last clip which is we had a
Reeve we had to revisit exit strategies in
general make it another show out of it
yes someone that was very about it that
was very entertaining you are correct yes sir
conference John Jensen thank you so much we

(02:23:06):
really appreciate that you put that together and
again we have sir dean anonymous with the
no agenda search it's being at dot IO
it's clip genie calm if you want it
for your own for your own podcast if
you want to go check that out and
we will continue to search for the exit
strategy will it be a book will it

(02:23:29):
be a microphone company will it be a
book that we put a phone and I
don't know we'll try hey we'll be back
on Sunday with a new live episode if
you want to listen live fresh new content
from the boys at no agenda until then
coming to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg Texas in
the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from

(02:23:49):
northern Silicon Valley where I remain I'm John
C Dvorak and remember us at no agenda
donations calm we look forward to thanking you
all in the next episode until then adios
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