1797 - "Death Buses" - No Agenda Show

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The most important thing you can do is
get a booster.
Adam Curry, John C.
Devorah.
It's Sunday, September 7th, 2025.
This is your award-winning give on Asian
media assassination episode 1797.
This is no agenda.
We've got the Powerball.
Yeah, we're broadcasting live from the heart of
the Texas hill country here in FEMA region,

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number six in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're still
wondering how pink solids can remove stubborn belly
fat.
I'm John C.
Devorah.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Well, I don't know where to start now.
I mean, I was all excited about the
Powerball and now the pink salt has me

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curious.
You haven't seen these ads, these incessant ads
on YouTube?
No, I don't get ads on YouTube because
I pay for YouTube.
What, then you're missing out.
Oh, yeah, I'm sure I am.
I went to, I went to, what is
the other one called?

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The one that Russell Brands- Rumble.
Yeah, Rumble.
Oh man, you get ads every five minutes.
You fast forward, ad, fast forward, ad.
And it's like skip in five seconds.
It's like, it's a ridiculous game.
Do they get credit?
Yeah, but you get to see the ads
for the pink salt.
What is the pink salt?

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It removes belly fat?
Here's the thing that really bugs me, and
everybody out there has experienced this.
Oh, we've got a secret.
This is as good as Ozemk because pink
salt, the big pink salt secret.
And then the yak, yak, yak, and they
go on forever.
The thing will go on forever.
So you have to click on.
Like Stansbury Research.
Click to watch the video.

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And so there's a video that they play.
I think this is some sort of a
PSYOP.
It's like Stansbury Research where it goes on
forever and never get to the point.
It goes, this video says, and then furthermore,
you're going to find, what you're going to
find out just, we're going to tell you
in three words what to do.
And those three words are the most important
three words.
And it goes on and on and on.

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And it's just like, what?
And it's just unbelievable.
Who's dreaming this stuff up?
How can anyone watch it?
It's a boomer trap.
But it doesn't trap me because I get,
I see it coming a mile away.
I love the troll.
I'm like, what?
Those guys don't know how to get an
ad blocker.
I got plenty ad blockers.

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Most of the ad blockers don't work very
well.
Oh, you got the wrong ad block.
I've been watching the troll room this morning.
You know, since, I don't know, since eight
o'clock.
Kind of from my peripheral vision.
I'm convinced after observing this that Psy Girl
and Lady Vox, they're dudes.

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Oh, I'm sure most of the women on
the troll room are dudes.
They're dudes, for sure.
So the winning or a winning lottery ticket
of the $1.8 billion lottery Powerball was
sold in Fredericksburg, Texas.
Did you get it?
Would I be doing this show?
I don't think so.

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Yeah, you would.
Everybody says they're never going to change anything.
I want a billion dollars.
I'm going to be the same old guy.
I'm bringing my lunch to work.
I would call you up and say, hey,
John, here's a mil, bye, bye.
Yeah, that's probably what I'd do too.
I'd give you two, I'd give you two,
here, bye.
I'd give you two, I'd give you two.

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I'd screw it, five million, bye.
And then I'd hop on the jet, I'd
come out there and I'd finally see your
studio.
It'd be great.
I know you guys work, if you sent
me a five mil, I'd be, a mil
would go into fixing it.
Fixing the studio.
About what it takes.

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Oh man, so I went to, we went
to Austin Friday, stayed overnight with our friends.
Yeah.
And now this is the former Hollywood.
This is the director, or no, the producer.
No, no, the former Hollywood executive.
Yeah, executive, he's a producer, basically.
Well, I think he's more, he was more
like a deal maker.

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Okay.
He did like, he's chief financial officer of
Marvel, but really he was.
Okay, that guy.
Yeah, that guy.
Who did you think it was?
No, I sort of thought it was.
You thought the other guy?
I forgot that he was.
Yeah, the other one guy that you know.
No, I didn't realize, I forgot he was
the CFO.
Yeah, but really he was doing like the,

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you know, the merchandise deals.
And I think he'd go with Ike on
the jet and rough up some people.
I think that's basically what he did.
And they were all in a tizzy.
Oh.
How many people were there?
There's just the two of them, him and
his wife.

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And the two of them were in a
tizzy.
Yeah, well, this is, everyone's talking about it.
Have you heard?
Have you heard?
I'm like, no, what's going on?
Because you know, first of all, we enter
Austin and we're always like, wow, I'm glad
we moved out of here.
It feels like you're always driving through Queens

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in the 1970s for some reason.
Except for the actual downtown.
What about the Bronx in the 70s?
Yeah, close enough.
There's even better.
All that's missing is the trains with all
the graffiti on it.
And everyone's, oh, have you heard?
Have you heard?
No, we haven't heard anything.
And here's what they were talking about.
The city of Austin has unveiled its first

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ever logo and brand replacing 300 across city
services.
Leaders say it creates one clear identity, but
with a $1.1 million price tag, the
new look is getting mixed reviews.
Mixed reviews is the least of it.
You got to take a look at this
thing.
Just go on your- I'm going to
go look now.

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Go on your Google machine and look at
the- Google machine.
So it took them two years to come
up with this logo and $1.2 million.
And that's the result.
Most people think it looks like a tent,
which makes sense for the homeless tents in
Austin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, the thing that you, is this the

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thing with the, it looks like the purple
and green.
Yeah.
With Austin underneath.
Yeah, A.
It's like an A, but it's like an
A with a thing going through it.
It's like freeways that are intersecting.
Yes, exactly.
It sucks.
Yeah, it's not great.

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I mean- What's the point?
Well, the point is now we have a
brand.
Austin has a brand that can brand everything.
Well, from what they have, the image I'm
looking at has the thing next to it,
which is a city of Austin.
Yeah, like a coat of arms.
It's got a logo.
Not a logo, but it's a coat of
arms.
Yeah.
What's wrong with that?
Well, the city has important work to do,

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and this is what they did.
And of course, you know, the running joke
is like, well, they got a guy who
couldn't afford Canva Premium, which does look a
bit like that.
That's a good one.
It looks a bit like Canva Premium.
Yeah.
It does.
So there was that news, and the other
big news- What's the point again?

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It was so they can have consistent branding?
Why?
What's the point of that?
Again- It's a city.
Look at the city council.
A bunch of nut jobs.
It's a Democrat-run city, and this is
what they come up with.
Of all the problems we have in Austin,
this is the one.
We needed to fix this.

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Yeah.
And it's small compared to their budget, but
it's just, it's funny.
That was the main topic of conversation.
And then the concrete cancer.
This is another first world problem, but apparently
a very big one.
Have you heard of the concrete cancer in
Austin?

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No, but I'm about to.
So during COVID, a lot of people had
swimming pools put in.
I'm talking serious swimming pools.
During COVID?
Yeah.
Yeah, because these are all rich people.
They have mansions.
And if they didn't, and on relatively small

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plots of land.
And so people would just, and also, I
think everyone, remember when the PPP came out?
The, that scam?
Yeah, the personal protectives.
No, no, no, the loans, the PPP.
Oh, the PPP loan.
The PPP loans.
So everyone upgraded their lake gear.
Everyone got new jet skis.
Oh, I see.

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They spent the money on pools.
They spent the money, not on their employees.
No, they spent the money on their pools.
And there's people, from what I heard from
them, who put in a $500,000 pool.
But apparently the main contractors who were doing
all this work got bad concrete.
And now it's splitting and leaking in every
single pool.

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That's a scandal.
Yes.
It's also kind of funny.
It's very funny.
It's like, wow, you're dealing with that?
Okay, feel bad for you, bro.
Feel bad for you.
The whole show's not gonna be about local
news, except for the fact that you still
owe us the story about Gilbert.
No, I'm gonna hold on to that one.
No, I'm gonna hold on.

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What?
Wait a minute.
I'm gonna hold on to it.
No, we gotta get into some- How
can you hold on to it?
We've been putting it off and putting it
off and we keep forgetting it.
Now I bring it up.
I say, I'm gonna bring it up at
the beginning of the show.
And then you stiff me.
No, no, it's just, I'm afraid that, you
know, now it's been such a buildup, it's
gonna be a letdown.
You're gonna go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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So I'll hold on.
I'm not gonna say anything.
Ah, okay.
Well, it's not that funny.
Well, there goes the sigh, so that says
something.
It's out of context.
Oh, good Lord.
Out of context.
I'll get to it later, I promise.
I put it on the list.
No, you won't.
Yes, I got it on the list.
We've said it a number of times that
we're gonna get to it.

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And then I put it on the post
-it note.
There you go again.
Okay, all right, all right.
So we have the neighbors up the street.
They're the Thokkys.
They moved in.
They're running a commercial construction business out of
their house with all kinds of trucks parked
there.
It's been going on for 18 months.
And everybody's upset about it in the neighborhood.
On that side.

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We're on the cool, quiet side.
There's nothing going on here.
Now, to get a vision or an image
of this, there's a road that goes up
to a T, and on the left is
your side and on the- No, no,
no.
Well, no, there's an entranceway to the road
that we're all on.
Yeah, which I would call a T.
Okay, wow.
And then you, it's, all right.

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Then, and that goes up to the mailboxes,
which the kids crashed into once.
Remember that?
I was telling you about how, like on
a Friday or Saturday night, they were driving
up and down on, in an ATV, gasoline
powered, and with one light and like 10
teenagers on it, joyriding around.

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Yeah, they're going to kill themselves.
Well, apparently they crashed in the mailboxes.
The whole structure came down and the, you
know, the guy's like, oh yeah, I'll fix
it.
And it's still down.
You know, it's like- He's a construction
guy.
Should have fixed it instantly.
He should have had his kids come around
and apologize to all the neighbors here by
the scruff of the neck.
We're sorry.
No, none of that.
So, but this has been going on for
a long time up there on that side

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of the street.
And, you know, shooting off fireworks and all
the, all the fireworks papers get into the
neighbor's yard and their pool and they're all
upset.
And they had these dogs and they just
let them roam around.
It's one thing after another with this family.
And these dogs, they, you know, they're kind
of aggressive.
And there's a family with kids who live

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right next door.
You guys have got guns.
Well, so Dilbert and his wife, they're retired
feds.
Okay, now who's Dilbert?
Okay, Dilbert lives on the street.
And this is, by the way, I believe
this to be a tall tale.
No, no, this, no.
It involves somebody named Dilbert.
When I first met him, cause he mows,
he, out of the goodness of his heart,
he mows the grass to the side of

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the entire street so that, you know, those
snakes don't start to live in there and
stuff.
And so I'd go out there one day
and say, hey man, how you doing?
Let me pitch in for some gas.
And he introduced himself, he's Dilbert.
And he's retired.
And yes, it was hard to suppress the
laugh, but that's his name.
I mean, there are people named Dilbert.
It's, I mean, one of these days I'll

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say, hey man, how does that feel?
Okay, I'll do that.
But after the story, you might understand why
I don't.
So he's an ex-fed.
I think he's ex-FBI.
And I'm not sure.
His wife is also a federal agent, but
of something else, I don't remember.
Nice people.
And so he's telling me the other, he's
telling me, you know, that dog came out

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running after my dog.
And I went right up to the lady.
I'm not going to use her name.
And she started screaming at me and yelling
about this.
And he says, next time your dog comes
running, my dog's going to shoot it in
the face.
That was the story.
I told you you'd be disappointed.
That was it?

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I told you, you'd be disappointed.
It's better if it's in context of something
about the neighborhood.
Well, it was in context about the neighborhood,
about the dogs and the whole thing.
So the guy's packing.
Yes.
So imagine me, I'm not going to make
fun of his name.
Well, he's not going to shoot you.

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I don't know.
He's ready to shoot a dog in the
face.
Well, I, from the sounds of it, those
dogs should be shot.
We have secret meetings going on now.
Yes, that's right.
That's the other thing that I forgot to,
you're now having secret meetings against the neighbor.
I find this to be fascinating.
It's called an HOA.

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There's no such, you don't have an HOA.
You're just creating one out of the blue.
No, we actually do.
But it went defunct, but everyone had to
sign like the covenant letter.
It's like one of those things like, yeah,
whatever, no chickens.
But there's all kinds of stuff in there.
You can't have chickens?
No, no.
You live in the middle of, you're not
even in Fredericksburg.

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You're in the county.
Yeah, but we- You're in county land.
You're out in the middle of nowhere.
There's no police jurisdiction.
There's nothing going on and you can't have
chickens?
It's a subdivision.
It's a very quiet subdivision until those people
moved in.
It was very quiet.
It was very quiet.
It was nice.
Yeah, I guess it would be if no

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chickens.
And then we got the other neighbors.
They're from Dallas and they took this house
and expanded it by three times the size.
And they've got this huge gate they put
up with huge lamps on the front.
We have a dark skies city, city ordinance.
That's, I mean, it's typical.
It's typical rural.
I wish I'd won that Powerball.

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I'd be out of here.
Come on, Tina, let's go.
Let's go.
Let's buy the ranch.
Let's get out of here.
It's okay.
Powerball, everyone's in it.
Who won it?
Who won that?
And someone got at the gas station, at
Biggs 103 gas station.
Wow.
It was like, no one goes to Biggs.

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We don't go to Biggs.
Someone did.
And they got the Powerball.
Well, let's start over some clips.
I've got the one clip that's just a
standalone clip that I thought was the best
clip that I'm gonna have.
Uh-oh.
Well, not really.
Is it better than my Dilbert story?
I think it's on par.

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On par, okay.
This is, and this just came out and
I don't see any news coverage of it.
They had a lot of coverage of it.
It's the latest with Abrego Garcia.
It's the one, it's at the bottom.
It's called the wow clip.
Yeah.
So ICE might be giving criminal illegal immigrant
Kilmer Abrego Garcia a new home in a

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country called Eswatini.
That tiny nation sits mostly inside South Africa.
Now the Trump administration settled on that country
after Abrego Garcia's lawyers claimed their client feared
persecution and torture in 22 other countries.
Christina Coleman is live with the latest on
this.
Christina.
Hi, guy.
Yeah, initially the so-called Maryland dad, Abrego

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Garcia, was going to be deported to Uganda
from the U.S., but his lawyers also
listed Uganda as a persecution or torture risk
for him.
Now this adds to their long list of
a bunch of other countries they've expressed concern
over.
Take a look at them.
These are all of them.
There's a lot of countries they're worried about.
In response, a principal legal advisor from ICE
and DHS said in a letter to Garcia,

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quote, that claim of fear is hard to
take seriously, especially given that you have claimed
through your attorneys that you fear persecution or
torture in at least 22 different countries.
DHS also responded to this.
You see it right there, writing, quote, homie
is afraid of the entire Western hemisphere.
So now, Abrego's new country of removal is
Eswatani.
Man, that place is gonna be a tourist

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destination now.
Who would ever heard of it?
I never heard of it, and I've been
to South Africa.
Isn't that where Eddie Murphy came from and
coming to America?
Maybe.
I mean, it's a little enclave country or
something.
It's like a city state or something.
It's like Fredericksburg in Texas.
It's unbelievable.

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They dug it up because this guy didn't
want to go to Uganda because the Ugandans
want to torture him?
They don't have that reputation.
No.
And they also made the comment, by the
way, they didn't want to send him to
a country that he didn't speak the language,
of course, which is, and the joke of
it is that one of the official languages
of, the official language of Uganda is, there's

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two of them, Swahili and English.
Yes, yes, and English with an English accent.
So, this is ridiculous, I think.
Well, the president is doing a lot of
marketing right now, and it kind of hit
me with his most recent truth.

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His truth.
It's kind of amazing how he started that
network, which is probably worth negative $5, but
somehow the company is, I haven't looked at
it, what is the DJT stock at?
These days, have you looked at that?
No, it's higher than you'd think.
Oh, no, it doesn't surprise me at all.

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But it is obvious that, I mean, like,
what social network, what is X really worth?
Do you ever get ads on X?
I've never seen an ad on X, ever.
Yeah, I get.
You do?
Yeah, they're very well hidden.
No, I don't see them.
I mean, you wouldn't know they're ads, they're
really well done.

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Yeah, usually in the form of TikTok videos,
you keep following for it.
No, no, no, there's real ads, and they're
really well done.
But he's marketing, and I think he's marketing
because of this issue with the courts saying,
and he wants it to go to the
Supreme Court as soon as possible, saying that
there's no emergency, therefore deporting people under this

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Emergency Authorization Act.
What exactly is it again?
I think it's the, do you remember when
it was?
It's not the Emergency Authorization Act.
No, but it's like, it's basically a, we're
being invaded, I think, and I believe that
that's why this all fits together.
An ominous warning from the US President echoing

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the film Apocalypse Now, after he rebranded the
Department of Defense as the Department of War.
I love the smell of deportations in the
morning.
So, he had little- Yeah, that was
a good bit.
He had little helicopters.
I think this whole Department of War rebranding
is, and he's saying that it's a war,

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and Chicago is a war.
I think he's trying to play this off,
or that'll be the defense, as we've been
invaded.
It fits together somehow.
It's not just- Well, you might be
onto something.
It's possible.
The war thing, though, is like, people are
making a fuss about this.
It was always called the Department of War
until after World War II.

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And what's funny is that one of our
producers sent me a link to this guy
Lutz, who was a, he's a writer, and
he was an expert on doublespeak.
And there's a book, you can see it
on Amazon, it's very famous, called Doublespeak, and
which is taken from 1984, the idea of
creating things that aren't what they sound like.

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And we've seen that a million times in
this country with the naming of bills and
legislation.
Yes, Patriot Act, let's just start there.
And it's just the opposite, you know?
And it turns out that changing the Department
of War right after World War II to
the Department of Defense was not only a
form of doublespeak, but won an award for

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it.
Oh, like the Austin logo.
Yeah, well, yeah.
So the Department of Defense is a form
of doublespeak that should be abolished.
Is it doublespeak or newspeak?
Well, I think he calls it doublespeak.
It might be newspeak, let me look.
Yeah.

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I don't want to be wrong.
No, because then you will get emails.
I will get an email, no, you'll get
emails.
I'll get your emails, yeah, exactly.
John blocked me.
Did you look it up?
Yeah, I'm looking it up by, no, he

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calls it doublespeak.
Okay.
And the guy's name is, I have it
here since I looked it up.
And I think it was called doublespeak.
Newspeak, I think, is something else.
Well, newspeak is what they called it in
1984.
Okay, well, doublespeak is what it was, it
was William Lutz.
And he ran, in fact, he ran the
doublespeak conference that met four times a year.

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They had a magazine and they gave awards
out for the best person who did doublespeak.
And his thesis is that it should be
resisted.
Yes.
Because it's a form of dishonesty.
And so the Department of Defense is a
form of dishonesty.
Yes, well, you mean like reproductive healthcare?

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Yeah, exactly.
All of these terms.
Well, let's listen to the rest of this.
Maybe we'll pick something up.
After he rebranded the Department of Defense as
the Department of War.
morning.
Chicago about to find out why it's called
the Department of War.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement has not confirmed whether
it has sent more agents to Chicago.

(23:01):
The governor of Illinois has said that he
believes immigration raids would coincide with Mexican Independence
Day festivals organized for this weekend and next.
Some Mexican festivals in the Chicago area have
been called off amid fears of raids.
Trump's threats have also prompted many Latino residents
to carry their US passports.
Residents of the Democratic stronghold took to the

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streets in the wake of the president's warnings.
Every single immigrant is a human.
Every single immigrant has every single right to
have their families stay together.
We held a rally at Broadview last week.
When the cops tried to tell us to
leave, when ICE tried to tell us to
leave, we stayed and they were forced to

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accept our presence.
Chicago's residents also bracing for the potential arrival
of National Guard troops after the US president
announced he decided on another city he plans
to send them without specifying where.
Trump's troop and federal agent deployments, which started
in June in Los Angeles, followed by Washington
after Trump declared what he called a crime
emergency are viewed by critics as an authoritarian

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display of force.
Earlier this week, a federal judge ruled that
his administration illegally deployed National Guard troops in
Los Angeles amid demonstrations against immigration raids.
I'm telling you, you'll see.
You'll see this whole Department of War is
about, because, you know, it's National Guard troops,
it's gonna be, oh, we're under attack.

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And then- Nothing against they were under
attack, they were under invasion.
An invasion, yes.
Well, a form of attack.
And by the way, Chicago, this was just
a little ditty I picked up.
You know, crime in Chicago.
They went looking for one car of some
elderly couple, or not even elderly, but they'd

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been drinking and they were lost.
And like, well, let's go see if we
can find them in the water.
Well, they came to Chicago looking for one
car, but found 97.
Now that dive team is checking license plates
and VIN numbers to find out if their
haul could lead to any answers.
This mangled Nissan is just one of nearly

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100 cars the chaos divers discovered in the
Chicago River.
It's not uncommon for us to find vehicles.
Heck, that's what we do.
When they started their search at the Richard
J.
Daly boat launch near 31st and Western last
week, they didn't find just one or two
vehicles, but they kept combing the water, ultimately
logging dozens.

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A lot of these are in piles.
We have three piles that are ranging anywhere
from 12 to 19 cars in one spot.
The independent dive team uses sonar technology to
solve missing persons and cold cases.
Their goal, to bring closure to families.
We are a little bit more interested in
those cars.
That's kind of the one-off where it's

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just one vehicle by itself, because that's gonna
be more indicative of an accident or even
self-harm or foul play.
Yeah, it's 97.
Oh, who knew?
It's like, I thought the Amsterdam canals were
bad when they dredge up bikes, but 97
vehicles they didn't know about?
I find that peculiar, that they were down

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there that long and that they've just all
of a sudden stumbled onto them.
It's very strange.
Well, they were- It was a mess.
Yes, well, but dude.
What about these- Dude.
Dude, what about these South Koreans?
What a story that is.
Excellent story.
Yeah, I have a two-parter, one with

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like the headline and then some details, which
I think are interesting.
First, a dramatic scene in the United States,
a massive immigration raid.
You always get, somehow I'm always getting better
clips from the European news outlets.
I don't know why that is, but they
just have more detail and they still hate
Trump and disdain us, but it's more detail.

(26:54):
State of Georgia, hundreds of federal agents, many
masked and armed.
Masked.
Told workers at a car plant owned by
a South Korean manufacturer, Hyundai.
These evil men, they're masked and armed.
To line up, nearly 500 people were detained.
ICE and Homeland Security were accompanied by the
Georgia State Patrol, the FBI, the DEA, the

(27:14):
ATF, and other agencies in executing a search
warrant.
I love that.
Executing a search warrant.
They're so dramatic, the way they read this.
ATF and other agencies in executing- All
of them.
A search warrant.
It is one of the latest raids and
the largest yet by the Trump administration's crackdown

(27:34):
on immigration.
Reaction from Seoul.
South Korea's foreign ministry expressed concern and regret
officials to fly to Washington to try and
resolve the issues.
And this comes after July when South Korea
pledged to invest $350 billion in America, including
26 billion by Hyundai alone as part of
a trade deal reached with the Trump administration.

(27:57):
Before I get into this details clip, some
observations.
One, isn't this kind of an Asian thing?
And I'm not trying to generalize, but I'll
do it.
Like, yeah, we're gonna invest.
It's almost like China.
We're gonna invest in your country and then
we're gonna bring in all our own people
and they're gonna run it.
I don't think that's...
Well, actually, I was gonna defend the Asian

(28:19):
people.
And you decided against it.
And then I started thinking about it because
there used to be...
The Chinese are notorious for doing this and
Africa's proof of that.
But, and I was gonna defend it, saying
it was just the Chinese that we're generalizing
from.
But in fact, now that I think about
it, there used to be a thing called
death buses and this is when a Japanese

(28:39):
company bought an American company and they would
have, they run it with American bosses.
And then, because I knew a guy that
was fired during this situation.
They fire all the upper management and bring
in what are called the death buses, which
are buses loaded with Japanese executives who take
over the company.
So this is, you might be right.
You've generalized, but I think you nailed it.

(29:02):
Well, also these are contractors, these companies that
they get a contract, like bring me a
whole bunch of people to run this battery
factory and they go and farm them.
And they get, I guess, I mean, they
just get them in from the White House.
They were illegal aliens and ICE was just

(29:23):
doing its job.
This is what President Trump said.
People on short-term or recreational visas are
not authorized to work in the US, ICE
said.
And of course this was necessary to protect
American jobs.
So clearly, and there's a lot of this,
there's so much of this going on, especially
in New York, in the service sector.

(29:44):
But the other thing I noted is where's
the protests?
Where's people protesting ICE in this?
I haven't seen a single protest.
Is that because they're Asian?
It could be a function of the state
they're in?
Georgia?
Is that because they're Asian?

(30:04):
Well, maybe it's because they're Asian if you're
trying to make the claim that these protesters
are a bunch of racist pricks.
But it's also possible that Georgia doesn't have
a bunch of groups, enough oomph to feel
a protest.
But all of these protests are organized.
And they're brought in from out of town.

(30:26):
But it's not, my point is, it's not
about kicking people out who are hardworking, hard
workers.
It's only about Mexicans.
Brown people, not the yellow people.
Yellow people don't count for these protesters.
That's my point.
Well, you can say that, if you want
to take that generality, you can also point
to Harvard, who have basically kept out Asian

(30:48):
students.
Yeah, yeah, they're happy they're going.
So you're saying that the protesters and the
left in general hate the Asians?
They're racist, they're racist.
Here's some details.
As US Immigration and Customs Enforcement conducted their
largest ever raid on a single site.
I mean, this was the largest raid ever.
So bigger than anything, no protest.

(31:09):
Some tried to flee.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, come on.
And were fished out of the factory.
Oh, this is funny.
So they jumped into the water to escape.
The raid on a single site.
Some tried to flee.
And were fished out of the factory's sewage
pond.
Construction has stopped.
It's so bad.
You gotta be hard.

(31:30):
They think they're gonna go swim into the
sewers and maybe come up in somebody's toilet?
What were they thinking?
They're standing there with their phones, you know,
calling home base or whatever.
Iron Dye's massive car battery facility in Georgia
after US authorities arrested 475 people there, most
of whom South Korean nationals, accusing them of

(31:51):
illegal work.
Officials said it was the culmination of a
months long investigation.
This was not a immigration operation where agents
went into the premises, rounded up folks and
put them on buses.
Agents did though, go into the premises, round
up people and put them on buses.

(32:13):
This was the best part of this report.
Most were taken to an immigration detention center
near Florida.
One man who used to work at the
site spoke about the fear caused by such
operations.
You know, nobody in America should ever be
treated like that or have to work in
these kind of conditions.
It's cool.
Now, that's interesting because they throw this soundbite
in and they're making it sound like the

(32:36):
guy is saying, this is, you know, no
one should ever be treated like this.
But what he's really saying, as far as
I can tell, is they were slave workers.
If you listen carefully, he's saying no one
should be treated like this, like slaves.
Well, it's possible that what he's talking about,
this is an out of context clip.
What he's actually talking about is Hyundai.

(32:56):
Yeah, precisely.
That they were running a slave ship.
But it makes it sound like they're talking
about the- The ICE agents.
The ICE agents.
But no, it's about- That's a very,
you have to put, that's a very interesting
juxtaposition of dropping in a clip that is
misleading.
Or maybe it was not, maybe if I'm

(33:18):
the editor and I'm saying, no, we put
it in for the reason you just said,
which is that no one should be working
under these circumstances in the plant.
We're not talking about the ICE agents.
Right, but the lead-in is a little
misleading.
The lead-in is what makes it, well,
play that whole, you have to play it
from the lead-in back to that clip.
We have to hear this again.
Round it up, folks, and put them on
buses.

(33:39):
Agents did, though, go into the premises, round
up people, and put them on buses.
Most were taken to an immigration detention center
near Florida.
One man who used to work at the
site spoke about the fear caused by such
operations.
Nobody in America should ever be treated like
that or have to work in these kind
of conditions.
It's cool.
See, they make it sound like he spoke

(34:01):
about the raid, but he didn't.
Yeah.
He's like, no, nobody should have to work
in these conditions.
I think, yes, this is a misuse of
the clip.
I think they screwed it up.
This is an intentional misuse and misdirection of
a clip that was talking about something else
completely different.
Hey, did you get anything of anyone talking
about how horrible that raid was?
No, but I got this.

(34:21):
Ah, jam it in.
Nobody in America should ever be treated like
that or have to work in these kind
of conditions.
It's caused uproar in South Korea.
At a summit last month, the country pledged
$150 billion in U.S. investments, including $26
billion from Hyundai Motor.
Indeed, Georgian officials had billed the megasite as

(34:42):
the biggest single investment in the state's history.
The economic activities of our companies investing in
the United States and the interests of our
citizens must not be unduly violated during the
course of U.S. law enforcement.
Hyundai Motor says it will investigate the employment
practices of its suppliers and subcontractors and bring

(35:03):
the site under its full control.
Yeah, okay.
So they're taking a little responsibility, I guess.
Yeah, well, they're actually the government apology.
I do have the PBS version.
I think it's the PBS version.
Actually, I think we have a Korean news
report.
I got a little news report from them.
The Illegal Koreans at Factory, PBS.

(35:24):
This is a very short report.
Doesn't have anything about standing in the sewer
or the sewage or any of the good
stuff that your report has.
You're absolutely correct.
This is lame.
This is a lame report.
The South Korean government is expressing concern and
regret over this week's immigration raid at a
Georgia Hyundai plant that swept up South Korean

(35:45):
nationals.
Today, ICE released new video of the operation.
It shows agents descending on the site of
an electric vehicle battery plant.
Nearly 500 workers were lined up, searched and
detained, most of them South Koreans.
The lead agent for Homeland Security Investigations in
Georgia claims the detained workers either entered the

(36:06):
country illegally, had expired visas, or entered on
visas that prohibited them from working.
Yeah, I got a, here's from the troll
room, from Goat, so that it comes with
authority.
He says, I knew a guy that worked
for Hyundai in Alabama and they put padlocks
on all the doors until they decided the
shift was over.
Yeah, that sounds about right.

(36:28):
We don't like slavery in America.
Only in New York City when, you know,
we want you to, we want you illegals
to clean our house, but that's about it.
That's terrible.
Of course it's terrible.
You get a fire or something, you can't
get out?
Well, God forbid.

(36:50):
Anyway, it's always rough, you know, when the
president promised something and now he's doing it,
and Americans don't like, we don't like seeing
anyone rousted for anything, but come on, Korea.
And all the M5M, it's like, oh, South
Korea, they're so great, very democratic country, yes,
oh yes.

(37:11):
Yeah.
Yes.
Until recently, they had nothing but fist fights
in their legislature.
Exactly, so democratic.
Although we could use some of that here.
That would be kind of fun to see.
A little bit of that would be nice.
Let's see, further fallout from RFK Jr. And

(37:33):
when I say fallout, as predicted, I think
the only thing I've heard anyone talk about
is, did you see Elizabeth Warren?
Warren, Warren, Warren, Warren, Warren.
I'm glad we played some other clips on
the previous episode, but I almost can see
this meeting taking place with the fine folks
at ABC Good Morning America, where, you know,

(37:54):
we must have a producer somewhere who works
in advertising or sales or advertising sales, television
sales.
Someone must be aware of these meetings or
must, maybe you work at the reception desk.
You must see these advertising executives come in
for the meeting.
I mean, it's, I can't, do you think

(38:16):
it's just phone calls or Zoom?
And they come in and say, hey, we've
got a real problem.
Nowadays, I'm not sure.
I don't know.
We've got a real problem here with RFK
Jr. and he's gonna cut us out of
advertising.
Well, there was supposedly, there was a, I
only saw this in written word.
There was supposedly a memo that went out

(38:38):
amongst a bunch of executive, media executives and
legislative types that basically said they have to
get rid of this guy.
And it has to be the pharmaceutical companies
worried sick because the promises he's made, which
he has not executed, has got to have

(39:00):
them shaking in their boots and they think
now's the time, the one time they're able
to get rid of him before he puts
these in place.
He has got to pull the plug on
TV advertising immediately.
Well, already the big pharma is advertising on
podcasts.
I hear it everywhere now, which is fair
game, I guess.
I saw an ad for the COVID vaccine

(39:22):
that was, it was a TikToker.
I'm a TikToker, but I got the COVID
vaccine because I did a lot of research
and it turns out that is the most
important thing you can do is get a
booster.
Yeah.
And it was just somebody yakking away.
Because you won't have to go to the
hospital.
You won't get as sick.

(39:43):
You won't get as sick, you'll just get
sick.
And it's just like, it was an obvious,
somebody paid them money, but it's hard to
identify some of these.
They are spotting, there's a bunch of these.
No, but I'm hearing actual like pre-roll
ads, real dynamically inserted ads.
That's not as insidious.

(40:04):
No, they're just throwing in ads, just actual
ads.
Well, anyway, so good morning, America.
Stephanopoulos and the gang over there.
And Michael Strahan.
They bring in their resident doctor, Dr. Tara
Nerula.
Now, let me see.
I've never actually, I don't know what her
credentials are.
Tara.
She's been on quite a few times.
Now, and she's good looking.

(40:24):
She's a good looking doctor, but big mistake.
She did not wear her uniform.
She didn't have a lab coat on, didn't
have a stethoscope wrapped around her neck.
You need a lab coat and a stethoscope?
Yeah, that's what, if I was an executive,
I would say, okay, I want Dr. Tara
in there.
I want her with the lab coat.
I want a stethoscope.
She can have her little hospital branding on

(40:47):
it.
Maybe just do the Austin logo.
That'd be cool.
And, but we need her to hit-
Name tag would be nice.
Yes, name tag and a Schlage card.
We need her to, we need her to
hit all the points.
Now, we need to remind everybody just how
horrible it was during COVID, and that just,
we've got to trigger those memories.

(41:08):
We've got to trigger everybody to get all
upset again, obviously to revolt, revolt against this
horrible Kennedy, whose whole family has now come
out against him as well.
You probably, I haven't seen any.
I love the Kennedy videos.
We don't have any yet, because they all
talk like that.
My cousin is, he kills children.

(41:30):
So they can't get that yet, but here's
Dr. Tara.
Chief medical correspondent, Dr. Tara Narula.
Chief medical correspondent.
Dr. Narula, let's start with the science right
here.
Why is it important for kids to get
vaccinated?
What happens if they're not?
George, it feels like right now it is
a chaotic situation.
Like we are on board.
There is no captain steering the ship.
And I know there's a lot of captains.

(41:52):
You got to listen.
I'm sorry.
Every second is good.
Now we'll stop it, but every second is
good.
And like we are on board, there is
no captain steering the ship.
And I know there's a lot of misinformation
and mistrust, but one thing that should not
be under fire is vaccination.
And the public health story- It's the
only thing under fire.
It's the only thing because of the MRNA

(42:13):
gambit, but okay.
Fire is vaccination.
And the public health story success that vaccination
has been in this country.
We know that it has saved millions of
lives.
We know that it prevents disability from diseases.
So we forget, but polio- We know
that it prevents disability from diseases.
I guess that's the polio vaccine that she's
talking about.

(42:34):
I guess.
I have no idea what she's talking about.
For one thing, the only thing under attack
is the MRNA technology.
That's all technology.
It's not even a vaccine.
And that's what's under attack.
And that's what they're trying to protect.
Nobody's bitching and moaning.
I mean, they complain a little bit about
the mumps vaccine or who cares, but that's

(42:56):
not what's under attack.
Millions of lives.
Let's just be honest about it.
We know that it prevents disability from diseases.
So we forget, but polio can cause paralysis.
Measles can lead to brain inflammation.
So if you get sick, it can end
up resulting in complications.
I don't think Kennedy has at any point,
in fact, quite the opposite.

(43:16):
I think he said, yeah, MMR, if you
want to get that, that's okay.
Polio.
I don't think he's had any, he said
anything about that, has he?
That I know of, no.
We have vaccines for cancer, HPV and hepatitis.
What?
We got vaccines for cancer?
I must've missed the memo.
Complications.
We have vaccines for cancer, HPV and hepatitis.
No, HPV isn't cancer.

(43:37):
That's what they're talking about.
Yeah, okay.
Another big success.
Vaccines for cancer, HPV and hepatitis.
We need vaccinations to protect the vulnerable, the
ill, the immunocompromised children, right?
So it is so important that we not
forget the powerful impact.
And I know it's easy as we, you
know.
Okay, here she goes.
Now the script is, it's so easy to

(43:58):
forget.
Remember, remember, remember.
It's so easy to forget the impact of
vaccines.
Come on, I'm gonna pull you right back
into the past five years.
Right, so it is so important that we
not forget the powerful impact.
And I know it's easy as we live
in a world where we don't see infectious
diseases that much, but we don't have to
look far back to COVID a couple of

(44:19):
years ago, and we can see how one
virus, one vulnerability.
One virus.
Can impact us, not to mention the economic
impact of hospitalizations, doctor's costs, lost wages.
But I think that personalization of remembering the
lives that we all saw lost.
I remember the freezer trucks behind Lenox Hill
Hospital where I worked, filled with bodies.

(44:41):
Please.
No.
There was no, there was a lie.
There's no bodies in the freezer trucks.
Zero bodies.
That's what I mean.
So it's just like, you know, loss of
lost wages.
The economic impact, you know, was so horrible.
We had freezer trucks filled with bodies.
No, they were empty.

(45:01):
That personalization of remembering the lives that we
all saw lost.
I remember the freezer trucks behind Lenox Hill
Hospital where I worked, filled with bodies.
Patients saying goodbye on iPads.
Let us not forget the toll that can
happen.
The immeasurable loss and suffering when we let
our guard down.
Disgusting.

(45:21):
She is, this is a, this is a
psychological operation and she is executing it.
They have a serious impact on public health.
And given what's happened with some states that
are pushing to make vaccines more accessible.
In Florida they're- Accessible.
To remove vaccine mandates.
So we may just be looking at patchwork.
Right here, Stranahan says about making vaccines more

(45:44):
accessible, but Florida is removing all mandates.
Has nothing to do with accessibility.
They're just twisting words.
With some states that are pushing to make
vaccines more accessible.
In Florida they're moving to remove vaccine mandates.
So we may just be looking at patchwork
of states with different protocols, different policies.
Yeah, this is where it's all headed.

(46:05):
Everyone's gonna have their own gang.
That's the right word, I think, a patchwork.
And it's a fractured approach that we really
haven't seen right now in this country before.
And unfortunately we are seeing exactly that.
Florida sort of stepping backwards with their mandates.
Backwards.
The Northwest and the Northeast forming alliances.
Alliances.
But the reality is, Michael, vaccines don't know
borders.

(46:26):
They don't know the difference between Texas and
Washington.
No, that's not true.
We stopped the viruses from Washington State right
at our Texas border.
We don't allow it to come in.
It's not gonna happen.
Even though you're vaccinated, it's not perfect.
So you can still get sick.
So it's gonna be a tough situation.
What did she just say?

(46:48):
It's not perfect.
Blew a bite, too.
She blew a bite.
Yeah, it's not perfect.
Even though you're vaccinated, you can still get
sick.
Not a vaccine then.
They don't know the difference between Texas and
Washington.
And even though you're vaccinated, it's not perfect.
So you can still get sick.
So it's gonna be a tough situation.
We may see the rise of groups like
the Vaccine Integrity Program that's now coming out

(47:08):
of Minnesota.
Also known as VIP.
I got a great name for our Vaccine
Integrity Program.
We'll call it that.
It's VIP.
Sounds important.
To kind of fill in these gaps in
the science.
Science.
Because people feel lost now for where to
turn.
I can't help but follow the money here.
And you have to wonder if the removal
of a mandate potentially takes the insurance companies

(47:29):
off the hook for reimbursements here.
There's absolutely gonna be ripple effects, Rebecca.
We have a signal that private insurance companies
for now will continue to cover.
But the big concern is around Medicare, Medicaid,
vaccines.
Oh, old people.
Vaccine fund for children.
Now, hold on.
This makes no sense because it is recommended
for people on Medicare.

(47:51):
It's recommended.
It's true.
65 plus.
So that's not true.
And she said, oh, no.
Well, the insurance companies.
Yeah, if you're 65, when you don't get
on Medicare before you're 65, you can't.
Yeah, so more lies.
And boom, you get the check boxes there.
And so they pick up the tab.
So what are they talking about?
They're lying to you.

(48:12):
Big concern is around Medicare, Medicaid, vaccines, the
vaccine fund for children.
Those who are getting free vaccines, what will
happen to their coverage for vaccines?
You know, you talk about gaps in the
science, but the basic science about vaccines is
pretty clear, right?
Vaccines are safe.
They are effective.
They should be used by kids.
George, the science has not changed.
The science doesn't change.
What changes is.

(48:33):
It's fun.
Listen.
What is she talking about?
Are safe.
They are effective.
They should be used by kids.
George, the science has not changed.
What changes is how we interpret it, our
policy.
The science has not changed.
Science never changes, people.
It never changes.
That's what science is.
Not changing ever.

(48:55):
That's what I mean.
It's like.
Yeah, tell it to Copernicus.
Copernicus.
Tell us the story of Copernicus.
What was he like?
He's an old Polack.
What are you gonna do?
Well, what did he?
Well, tell us the story of Copernicus.
He's the inventor of modern astronomy.
I mean, he's basically the one who decided
there's a solar system.

(49:16):
Right, so you're saying that he changed the
science?
Well, yeah, because before that, it was, there
was no such thing.
The earth was in the center of the
universe and everything spun around the earth because
it was, you know, God's creation and everything
else was bull crap.
There's a lot of just dots in the
sky.
Why do I think that was Galileo?
Galileo discovered, Galileo took it to the extreme

(49:38):
because he actually proved it.
Ah, he proved the science.
Well, he had his telescope.
Copernicus is just ad-libbing.
He was just faking it till he made
it.
I am Copernicus, fake it till I make
it.
Let's take a look at this.
Let's get this straight since we're here.
Why don't you ask your friend.
Yes, my girl, yes.
What is the difference between Copernicus and Galileo

(50:02):
and what they discovered?
Okay, error.
What is the difference between Copernicus and Galileo?
Nicolaus Copernicus and Galileo were both giants in
astronomy, but they played different roles in the
shift from earth-centered to sun-centered models.
Copernicus, back in the early 16th century, proposed

(50:24):
the heliocentric theory, sun at the center, earth
and planets orbiting around it.
His book, Practice, laid the groundwork but was
cautious, avoiding direct clashes with the church.
Galileo, a century later, took it further by
using a telescope to observe Jupiter's moons and
Venus's phases.
Okay, got it.
Exactly what I said.
Hi there, you all right?

(50:46):
Yeah, I'm fine.
Yeah, exactly what you said, okay.
So the science, the point was is that
the science changed.
Yeah, the science changed.
And this will probably be used against RFK
now that he's defunded all mRNA research, all

(51:07):
of it.
Uh-oh, the Russians are moving ahead.
Well, Russia is gearing up to treat cancer
patients with what could become one of the
world's first personalized mRNA cancer vaccines, a treatment
tailored to each patient's unique tumor.
The announcement marks a key moment in what's
shaping up to be a global race to

(51:28):
beat cancer using next-gen technology.
According to Russian news outlets, Russia's first patients
could begin receiving the newly manufactured, newly developed
cancer vaccine within the next few months.
So they're talking about a vaccine, mRNA vaccine,
but I wish they would just be honest
and call it gene therapy because you already

(51:49):
have the cancer.
You already have the cancer.
It's not stopping you.
I wonder, yeah, you already have the cancer,
so what kind of a vaccine is it?
Right, it's a therapy.
I don't know what, they can't do that
because of the liability situation and the indemnification.
So you just call everything a vaccine so
he can't get sued for making crap, for
producing a genuinely bad product.

(52:12):
So I'm surprised by this because the Russians
are the ones who eschewed, to use that
word, I hate to add it, but we
know what eschewed means, the mRNA to begin
with.
Yeah, but this is maybe a troll from
Russia, who knows?
I think it's a troll, the whole story's
a troll.
But of course, ultimately, this whole COVID thing

(52:34):
is really about, well, it's actually two things.
One is they don't want mRNA to be
outed as gene therapy.
They want to continue to call it a
vaccine so they co-mingle it with all
kinds of other vaccine stories and nonsense.
And it's really, when they talk about accessibility,
this is probably, I don't know, can you

(52:57):
get the MMR vaccine from the pharmacy?
Do you know?
That's the problem because the pharmacies want to
be able to give you the shudges for
what is a walk-in.
Yes, and that's the problem.
This is a report from Virginia.
It used to be able to easily walk
to your local pharmacy and get a COVID
vaccine, but with new FDA regulations, it might

(53:18):
not be as simple in the future.
Patients who are normally able to dismay when
they walked over to their local pharmacy to
get these vaccines now have to call their
doctor's office.
Dr. Marcia Newby-Goodman from Primary Care Specialists
says new COVID vaccine regulations could create more
hurdles for anyone looking to get the vaccine.
I'm looking for the vaccine!

(53:38):
So it's a lot of work on both
the patients, pharmacies.
People on the street, hey, hey, brother.
Hey, brother, are you holding?
Did he shoot me up?
Can you shoot me up, brother?
A lot of work on both the patients,
pharmacies, and doctor offices.
The next round of COVID vaccines was approved
by the FDA on Wednesday, but limited availability
to people 65 and older or anyone with

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a high risk for the sickness.
Now, Virginia is one of several states requiring
a prescription for the vaccine at local pharmacies.
They're putting a lot of layers to prevent
people from getting the vaccine.
A lot of layers?
It's one layer.
You gotta get a prescription.
That's not a lot of layers.
According to the CDC, so far during-

(54:21):
Get there.
There's a lot of layers.
You gotta get a- You gotta get
there.
First, you gotta make the appointment to get
the prescription.
Then you gotta get the prescription.
Then you gotta pick up the prescription.
Then you gotta go to the, then you
gotta find your way to the pharmacy and
you gotta tell them there's a prescription that
you have sent in.
Or you have to bring the prescription if
you have it by hand.
That's a lot of layers.
Hold on, can I get a prescription for

(54:43):
the COVID vaccine through telemedicine?
Let's see.
That will be the answer.
Doesn't say, per se.
Just ask your girl.
Nah, I'm tired of my girl.
Now, generally, you cannot get a prescription for
COVID vaccine through telemedicine.

(55:04):
Not yet.
Prevent people from getting the vaccine.
According to the CDC, so far during 2024,
2025, more than 1.3 million Virginians received
a COVID vaccine in the state.
Nearly 800,000 of those people under the
age of 65.
That's why Dr. Anna Peeples from People's Pharmacy
says new restrictions could be problematic.

(55:27):
Those of us that have really benefited from
receiving the COVID vaccine, then it makes it
more difficult.
People's Pharmacy does administer the COVID vaccine, but
like other pharmacies in Virginia, in order to
get the shot, you'll need a prescription from
your doctor.
Even with these new requirements, Dr. Peeples and
Dr. Newby Goodman say, with the current guidelines,

(55:49):
it's still possible to get the vaccine, but
you might need to jump through the hoops
to get it.
And I just feel so, we should write
down the names of all of these ghouls
because if your information diet, if your news
diet is what it is for a lot
of people in America, then you're just getting

(56:13):
PSYOPT every single day.
I mean, we have family members.
We have family members.
Now, listen, we have family members who've had
five boosters and now have COVID again.
Safe and effective, and they have COVID again.
But it's not funny anymore because you see
- Well, not to you.
But no, because I love them.

(56:33):
I love my family members.
And you say, hey, maybe you should stop
with these boosters for your immune system.
No, no, no, no.
And by the way, every single time I
get COVID, I'm definitely not as sick as
I would have been.
This is the answer.
That's a classic.
But it's- There's actually no, that's a
non- It's super sad because, and they're
hearing this from their doctor, their doc, and

(56:57):
it hurts my heart when I hear this,
like, ah.
And you can send them ivermectin and they'll
roll their eyes at you.
Oh, they'll think you're nuts.
That's toxic.
They already think.
Yeah, it's horse dewormer.
I know.
But it's just, it's incredibly sad that this
continues to be perpetrated.

(57:18):
Well, I don't know how you can say
this is, I don't know how you can
say this is an op because I watched
the entire PBS news hour on yesterday and
Saturday, and they didn't have one story about
the vax, although I will say they ended
the show, they ended the show with this
vax PBS straight plug.

(57:39):
Oh boy, they went straight for it, huh?
Now online with the CDC in turmoil and
fall approaching, we give you helpful tips on
where and how to get COVID vaccinations.
All that and more is on our website,
pbs.org slash news hour.
Wow.
And then they closed the show.
That was amazing to me.

(57:59):
Wow.
Because they didn't have any stories on it,
so they decided to put it in anyway.
Why didn't they have any stories on it?
It was the news story of the week.
They were talking about Kennedy, get rid of
Kennedy.
It was more important to get rid of
Kennedy.
That's a vax story.
That's it.
Yeah, but it wasn't the same as telling
people to get the booster.
Well, let's do some PBS Kennedy stuff.
You have any?

(58:20):
I've got some PBS.
No, you do not.
You have Kemedy PVS.
I don't know what that is.
You know what I've got here.
This is the attack just about the CDC
and Kennedy, and this is more about Kennedy's
battle with the CDC.
Let's listen to these.

(58:40):
Turmoil at the CDC, the debate over the
federal government's vaccine policy remains as contentious as
ever.
Health Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy Jr.'s combative appearance on Capitol Hill this
week did little to clear up the issue.
He was pressed by senators of both parties,
including two Republicans who are physicians.
Now some states are taking matters into their

(59:02):
own hands.
They're forming alliances to review scientific data and
make their own vaccine recommendations.
This is the term, alliance, alliances.
This is what everyone's using.
We're performing an alliance, a front.
We are the resistance, the resistance, the partisans.
Yes, alliance, the resistance.

(59:22):
The Democratic governors of California, Oregon, and Washington
were the first to act.
They were joined the next day by Hawaii.
Earlier, I spoke with Hawaii Governor Josh Green,
a Democrat who's a physician.
Because everything went so well with COVID in
Hawaii.
We are in a great time of crisis
as far as public health goes right now.
The HHS administration led by Mr. Kennedy is

(59:45):
in disarray and it's causing a lot of
concern across the country.
We need to have good science.
We need data-based science.
We need evidence.
This is good.
This is a new term.
It's evidence-based science, but now it's data
-based.
No, no, data-based science.
It's data-based.
He said it with a D.
Data-based.

(01:00:06):
What, he said what?
He said, he didn't say data-based, he
said data-based.
Data-base?
Yeah, data-based with a D at the
end.
Data-based science.
Data-based, oh, data-based.
Yeah, listen.
Is in disarray and it's causing a lot
of concern across the country.
We need to have good science.
Oh, data-based, okay.

(01:00:27):
I thought he was talking about a database
and you need to be into database.
We need evidence-based science.
Evidence.
So my good friends, the three governors from
the West Coast formed this alliance and I
had a lot of experience as a physician
and the person who dealt with COVID in
Hawaii as Lieutenant Governor.
So it just made a lot of sense,
but we're gonna try to guide the country
in a positive way, just non-politically, but

(01:00:49):
in a way that helps us, you know,
protect lives.
They want data-based science.
Isn't that the evidence that is being shown?
We have data.
You have to ignore the fake evidence and
use the evidence that says what you want
it to say.
Well, there it is.

(01:01:12):
Well, this guy gets better.
How are you gonna develop the recommendations?
Who's gonna do that?
This will be from scientific experts.
Our expectation is we will use a lot
of the people that have been around for
several years doing the job under Republicans and
Democrats in different administrations.
Bring back Fauci.
People who are trained pediatricians.

(01:01:33):
And infectious disease experts.
It's very likely some of the people that
have recently been pushed out of the CDC
or the special committees, they may very well
wanna come aboard.
We also have directors of health in our
own states that are thoughtful public health leaders.
All of these people will contribute.
Hey, we are thoughtful public health leaders if

(01:01:54):
you wanna talk about credentials.
I mean, what is a thoughtful?
Our thoughtful public, you have to be thoughtful.
I'm thoughtful.
I'm a thoughtful public health leader.
Our thoughtful public health leaders.
All of these people will contribute.
Plus, we'll do what you should do, which
is rely on things like the National Pediatric
Association.
It's internal medicine associations and all of these

(01:02:16):
individuals that have given us the right guidance
to keep disease at a minimum, to prevent
outbreaks like measles and mumps and polio.
Because I tell you, it's very disconcerting right
now to see what's happening.
Not only are they dismantling what will be
good advice, but they're kind of giving license
to other states to go rogue.

(01:02:36):
And that's what you're seeing in Florida.
They're gonna pretty much move straight away from
science and they're gonna allow people to do
whatever they want, which is gonna cause outbreaks
when people don't get vaccinated.
Okay, first of all, I love the car
honk.
That's a good new sound effect.
Second of all, what happened to the measles
outbreak?
Did it just die off?

(01:02:57):
How come we're not all suffering from measles?
What happened to the outbreak?
Remember the outbreak?
It died off, it's just what happens.
You get the measles and then you get
over it.
Yes, yeah, and one unfortunate child died.
Which could have been from anything other than
measles.
Probably some comorbidities.
I'd be remiss if I didn't say that

(01:03:17):
none of this would be necessary if RFK
Jr. would just step down, and allow someone
with a scientific background to run that department.
Because right now you're seeing the great dismantling
of public health in America, and we'll do
our part to build it up.
I think this is another one, the great

(01:03:37):
dismantling of public health in America.
Because it's worked so great.
Everything's peachy keen, it's just fine.
We'll do our part to build it up.
But this could be a bumpy couple years,
and we're hopeful that this will give people
an opportunity to see what the right science
recommendations are.
I know you were Lieutenant Governor when the

(01:03:58):
pandemic began.
You became governor in 2022.
Hawaii had one of the highest vaccination rates,
and one of the lowest mortality rates during
that time.
Are there lessons that can be learned from
that for other states or for the federal
government?
Is that true?
I couldn't find out.
I looked and looked and looked.
I tried to get this because I wanted
to have a slam dunk-like refutation, but

(01:04:22):
I couldn't find anything, so I don't know
if it was true or not.
It doesn't mean that the vaccine didn't kill
a lot of people.
They're just talking about what was happening.
But then again, they didn't block their beaches
like they did in California.
People were out and about.
But you couldn't even fly.
You couldn't even fly to Hawaii.
They locked everybody out?

(01:04:42):
Yeah, they had to.
It was screwy.
I'm not convinced that what he says is
accurate.
According to, and what is this from?
This is from Global Health.
While Hawaii generally managed COVID-19 deaths effectively,
means they killed people really quickly, compared to

(01:05:03):
other states, it's important to note that Native
Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders experienced some of the
highest COVID-19 death rates amongst racial and
ethnic groups in the United States.
Hmm.
They killed the Hawaiians themselves.
Absolutely.
The other thing is Hawaii has a population
of 1.4 million total, something like that.

(01:05:24):
It's a very small state, I mean, compared
to California, which is 40 million.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Absolutely.
What we did was we just expressed in
a fair way to everyone what their options
were.
It wasn't about mandates.
It wasn't about anything that would scare people
like you're seeing come from RFK Jr. It
just was good science.

(01:05:45):
As a physician, I was able to express
what I learned as a family practice physician,
how you would best protect yourself.
We went analytically one community by the next,
and what we saw was when people knew
that they would have a lower mortality rate,
death rate, by getting vaccinated, they made a
good choice.
So that's the way it's got to go.

(01:06:07):
So we should give credit to the president
for his work in his first term on
the production of the mRNA vaccine.
And we should also make sure that this
is not a political question so that everyone
can get access to that vaccination if they
want it, if their doctors recommend it.
And the same can be said for other
research because they're- Well, hold on a
second.

(01:06:27):
First of all, access is not cut off.
And if their doctor recommends it, you can
get it with a prescription.
Is that not the same as a doctor
recommendation?
Yeah.
Okay.
Move to move away from bird flu research
and mRNA research.
That means people will not get vaccinations in
the next iteration, which by the way is
a national security threat.
If only China gets the vaccination, and say

(01:06:49):
the next time, what's going to happen?
Yeah, we're all going to die.
China.
Wow.
There it is.
He's talking about- The bird flu.
He's talking about taxpayer funding of research that
benefits the big pharma companies that have more
than enough money in profits every year, billions
and billions and billions of dollars that they
can invest in research if it's that important.
That's what he's talking about?

(01:07:10):
Well, how about this?
If everyone is so sure that it's not
a matter of when, but if I would
totally, if you and I are running Pfizer,
it'd be like, hey, hey, hey, Dr. Dvorak.
So I'm like really sure it's not a
matter of when, but if.
So we better have that thing to make
a bundle and we'll give it to ourselves

(01:07:32):
first so we outlive everybody.
That's what you do.
That's what I'll be doing.
When we have to worry about some terrible
virus or even God forbid, an attack of
some sort.
You know, these are real issues for we
governors and senators and presidents.
And so it's a colossal mistake what they're
doing.
And we're just trying to fill in the
gap until there's a new leadership.

(01:07:52):
What does it say?
The fact that you and your fellow governors
on the West Coast feel the need for
this?
Okay, I'm sorry to stop it again.
Until there's new leadership, is this a foregone
conclusion or is he talking about in three
years from now?
Or he's like, well.
He's talking about getting rid of Kennedy.
Okay.
And presidents.
And so it's a colossal mistake what they're
doing.
And we're just trying to fill in the

(01:08:12):
gap until there's a new leadership.
And get rid of Kennedy.
What does it say?
The fact that you and your fellow governors
on the West Coast feel the need for
this alliance.
What does that say about the state of
public health in this country?
Well, the state of public health is a
cataclysmic disaster right now because of Mr. Kennedy's
leadership.

(01:08:33):
Now, let me be nice here for a
moment.
Mr. Kennedy could very well have something to
offer the president and the country in the
areas of processed foods or nutrition or pesticide
use.
I appreciate that.
But because he's so divisive and because he
has a political axe to grind with vaccinations,
we have a full schism, a true divide
in our country.
And it tells you that there are two

(01:08:54):
camps.
Those who will follow science and those who
will follow politics.
And those who will follow politics are currently
in charge of the Department of Health and
Human Services.
And it will kill people, kill people.
It will kill people, kill people.
You've already seen some fatalities from this big
measles outbreak.
And believe me, in year two and three
of this second administration, it's gonna get very

(01:09:16):
bad.
So Mr. Kennedy is not doing the president
any favors at all.
I've had very good conversations with leaders at
every level in the federal government, including the
president.
And I am expressing this openly that he
should move Mr. Kennedy to a different place
in the government if he wants to keep
him.
That's okay.
And put in someone that aligns with him

(01:09:37):
politically, perhaps conservatively, but follows science.
Hold on a second.
Kennedy is a Democrat, does not align politically
or even at a human level at times
with President Trump.
Right.
So this is nonsense.
And they can- It's total nonsense.
It's ludicrous.
With Kennedy on some of these nutrition issues,

(01:10:00):
that's fine.
But our health is at stake in our
country, especially for our children, especially for children
who are not even yet of age to
get some of the vaccinations.
It's gonna be really bad.
And it's gonna be worst in the states
that are rural, that are poor, that don't
have access to healthcare providers at all, which
by the way, happened to be the president's

(01:10:21):
base, as ironic as that might be.
Yeah, but we win Powerball, bro.
So, okay.
So don't worry about us.
We're good.
We got Powerball in Texas.
Oh man.
And again, it's the sad part is, is
that these people, did he have a lab
coat on?
No, no, he's just a doofus governor looking

(01:10:43):
guy.
Oh, yeah.
Very, he was very, very Casper milquetoast type.
People really buy into this, you know?
They really do.
Well, yes.
This is what you were bitching about a
minute ago.
And I think, yeah, that's one of the
things that makes the show that we do
kind of a helpful- Valuable.
Valuable.
It's very valuable.

(01:11:04):
The show's valuable.
And people should appreciate the fact that at
least we're giving a perspective that is not
bought and paid for by big pharma.
That's all there is to it.
That's all there is to it.
And that's only because we won Powerball, because
we have nothing to lose.
Nobody's won Powerball in this family.
So another- You know, I figured out
that there's as many tickets as I buy.

(01:11:26):
If I don't buy any tickets, I have
the same odds of winning.
That's true.
Then there's this other issue, which is another
big government movement which has been taking place
around the world since the 60s, maybe even
the 50s, but the 60s certainly, and the
70s got really big.

(01:11:46):
And it came back with a vengeance during
the course of the past 18 years of
this program.
And so now there's a new report saying
that climate change, eh, it's not all that
big a deal.
And boy, we got to fight that.
Department of Ecology is urging the federal government
to withdraw its latest climate change report, saying
it's inaccurate and ignores science.
The U.S. Department of Energy's new draft

(01:12:08):
report claims that warming temperatures due to greenhouse
gases are less damaging than believed.
It also downplays links between climate change and
extreme weather events, heat, wildfires, and drought.
The Department of Ecology says the report is
harmful to communities seeing the impacts firsthand.
Denying climate change by cherry picking a few
pieces of data won't alter the reality that

(01:12:30):
we are experiencing on the ground, where our
communities and ecosystems are really experiencing the damage
firsthand.
Right now is the comment period on the
draft report.
Dozens of climate scientists have weighed in with
one saying the report, quote, makes a mockery
of science.
It makes a mockery of science.
So we have the only 100 degree day
we've seen in Texas this entire summer was

(01:12:54):
Friday, and it was in Austin.
Not here.
Our grass is green.
It's been raining again for two days, and
we're getting a cold snap starting Wednesday.
Cold snap starting Wednesday.
Yeah, there's some coming down from Canada.
It's supposed to hit a lot of Texas.
Not just Texas, all of middle America.

(01:13:14):
And of course, at the end of the
year, you can already predict it.
Well, 2025 was the hottest year on record.
Hottest ever.
We're boiling over here.
And where's all the horrible hurricanes?
Oh, it's gonna be the worst season ever.
Do we have a, we should probably, I
should probably start tagging these.
We gotta start saving those clips.
They always show up at the beginning of

(01:13:35):
the season.
Here we go.
This is from August.
The Atlantic hurricane season is entering its peak
months.
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration released its
final outlook for 2025 yesterday.
The agency says climate conditions are tracking with
their original prediction for May, but with slightly
less confidence.

(01:13:56):
There is now a 50% chance of
an above normal hurricane season.
Above normal.
That's down from 60% in May.
Federal forecasters expect a range of 13 to
18 total named storms, including two to five
major hurricanes.
So far, there've been four named tropical storms
and no hurricanes.
That's an entirely new metric.

(01:14:17):
We'll have a four, we'll have a whole
bunch of named storms.
Well, Kiko is a named storm, which is
supposedly coming towards Hawaii.
So they can name it.
But 13 to 18, what have we had
this year?
Two or three?
I mean, real hurricanes.
Oh, no hurricanes.

(01:14:38):
I mean, there was one out in the
middle of the Atlantic that threw a bunch
of rain, but it was a hundred miles
from the coast.
Not a hurricane.
It got to a four or five, but
it was out in the middle of nowhere.
Didn't move.
Didn't move the needle, man.
Didn't move the needle.
So, you know, we've been laughing about CBS

(01:14:59):
and Paramount about this deal with the Ellison
kid.
What's the kid's name?
David, I think.
Yeah, David Ellison Skydance.
So the first article that came out, when
did this come out?
A couple of days, September 4th.

(01:15:22):
So according to people familiar with the matter,
CBS, Paramount, Skydance, whatever you want to call
it, has purchased Barry Weiss's Free Press, the
Free Press.
Yeah, for a hundred million to $200 million.
And apparently they're going to make her a

(01:15:44):
big wig at CBS News.
They're thinking of giving her the executive job
at CBS News.
And I thought that, you know, and Tina
and I were talking about it.
I said, that's actually kind of interesting.
That may change the way they do news.
That could be kind of interesting.
But then I got this next report, which

(01:16:05):
now of course I have to get from
the Wayback Machine because Wall Street Journal gives
you a readable copy and then it takes
it away.
Here we go.
You should download.
I should download.
So Skydance chief executive, David Ellison, I guess
he had a dinner party.
He had a dinner party.

(01:16:26):
And the dinner guests put forward ideas to
bring back MTV the way it was.
What, the original MTV?
Yeah, play music videos.
Oh brother, yeah, that's going to go over.
And he's like, oh, this is a great
idea.
This is very interesting.
Oh man, that's good.
I think we should do it.
I think we should do this.
Like, okay, A, exit strategy for Adam.

(01:16:48):
Hey.
Yeah, Adam's out of here.
Hey, it's Boomer TV, everybody.
How you doing?
Let's play some old David Bowie videos.
They are literally talking about bringing back old
MTV segments and interviews.
I'll be famous again.
I got to grow my hair so people
recognize me on the street.
You can get a, hey, wigs.

(01:17:09):
I mean, so I can tell you unequivocally
that people of the Gen X, Generation X,
and some Boomers, yeah, they all enjoyed a
very special time.
And you know, hey man, what happened to
MTV?
Why aren't they playing videos anymore, man?

(01:17:29):
Okay, well, because nobody says that.
They made 10 times as much by putting
on reality shows.
They make a lot more.
That was where the money is.
And that's why they did that.
Oh, okay.
Well, thanks MTV for 12 years of music
in your 50 year history.
Yeah, that was a great time.
And we all shared that.

(01:17:51):
You can't bring that back.
You can't.
That is really, well, you think maybe, I'm
reading from the Wall Street Journal.
We think that MTV could become the music
tastemaker again.
Music pacemaker, maybe.
But tastemaker, I did that on the fly.
On the fly.
That is pure comedic stylings.

(01:18:13):
He aims to keep and revitalize networks like
MTV, Comedy Central, and Nickelodeon as part of
a revamp of the struggling entertainment company.
And he wants to keep it on cable.
What is wrong with this picture?
Oh, this is just publicity for the whole
thing.
They're not going to do any of that.

(01:18:33):
Well, what is he going to do with
it?
I think the Barry Weiss thing is right.
I think they're going to try to make
Paramount, they're going to Skydance, which is actually
producing pretty good movies.
I can't name them, but every time I
see one, no, every time I watch a
movie that's decent, I see the Skydance logo
come by.

(01:18:54):
I think, oh, that's interesting.
They got the, definitely have the right winger
dad, Larry Ellis.
Larry.
And you have to assume the son is
conservative.
Let's just look at these pretty good movies.
Terminator Genisys, Terminator Dark Fate, The Tomorrow War,

(01:19:17):
Top Gun.
Okay, that was a good one.
Top Gun, now that movie saved the industry.
Transformers, Rise of the Beasts, Mission Impossible, Rogue
Nation.
Another one, another killer.
Star Trek Into Darkness.
World War Z, I think that was a
dud.

(01:19:37):
Jack Reacher, that's big.
And The Old Guard.
Okay, well, so they have some hits.
They have some hits in there.
Talk to Brunetti about that, he'll know.
He'll know if they actually made money on
it.
Yeah, I'll ask him.
Actually, I do have to ask him something
about making money anyway.
So instead of green lighting the next seasons

(01:20:00):
of popular BET originals, that's Black Entertainment Television,
like Tyler Perry's Divorced Sistahs, which apparently is
a hit.
It is?
Yes.
Divorced Sistahs.
The former Netflix executive who now heads streaming
at Paramount Skydance, Cindy Holland, has floated the

(01:20:23):
idea of asking the creator to make originals
that would cost more than $7 million an
episode, which is double what these shows typically
cost.
Can you believe that they're paying $3.5
million for an episode of Divorced Sistahs?
That's too high.
It's way too high.
That makes no sense.
If they're paying more than a million, it

(01:20:45):
should be the most that anyone should pay
to produce a TV show is a million
bucks.
And they paid Perry, they're paying him $200
million a year to make shows.
Well, he should just be fired.
There's some cost cutting, people.
That's amazing.
I just don't see how they can keep

(01:21:07):
these cable shows and make them work, and
they want to keep it on cable.
They want to revive cable.
I just don't see it.
Well, maybe the whole thing's a disaster.
Feels like it.
The kid, he's a millennial.
He's like, yeah, you look at him like,
okay, you got Irving, A's off, and the

(01:21:27):
guys from the show and the guys from
Universal Music at the dinner table.
Hey, let's make MTV great.
It's the music guys that want to revive
MTV.
I was just like, no.
I want to bring a sucker, this stupid
kid into doing this.
What do you think?
I need to call with him.
I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you what, you bring it up.
You bring it up and I'll jump in

(01:21:51):
and say what a great idea it is.
And then we'll go from there.
That's the kind of thing you and I
would do.
Think of the merch, David.
Think of the merch.
Think of the merch sales.
Hey, I need to call with David, with
David Ellison.
Hey, man, bring me back.
Bring me back for Headbangers Ball, man.

(01:22:13):
I'll bring hundreds of thousands of people.
Watch Ricky- With half of them with
walkers.
Watch Ricky Rackman to get the gig.
Oh man, it's just too funny.
It's like, no, that doesn't feel like a
strategy to me.
Would they pay for it?
7 billion, 8 billion?
No, I don't know what- Your friend

(01:22:35):
right there can answer instantly.
Yeah, he's not.
Oh, my friend right here.
Error, you think she can answer?
Yeah, she'll know.
How much did Skydance pay for Paramount?
Skydance shelled out $8 billion total for Paramount.
1.75 to buy national amusements outright.
Then another chunk to wipe out debt and

(01:22:56):
sweeten the deal for shareholders.
Whole thing closed just last month, though it
felt like forever with all the FCC drama.
I don't need you to editorialize, okay?
He had to go into some other stuff.
I don't need you to editorialize.
This is too short an easy answer.
I can just answer the question or I
can answer the question and embellish it.

(01:23:17):
We don't need the embellishment.
We don't.
Okay, $8 billion.
It just doesn't feel right to me.
Meanwhile, the best idea ever for cable, no
one wanted to bite, and that was our
podcast channel, which was a great idea.
It still is.
Yeah, but no one wants to do it.
No one wants to do it.
No, it's just a head.
You're typical.

(01:23:39):
Actually, any idea that involves you is typically
- 10 years.
I'd say five to 10 years ahead of
its time.
Yeah, I know.
And then I sit on the podcast, bitching
and moaning about having no money.
You complain.
Yeah, that's exactly right, but that's just, that's
your lot.
That's, yeah, that is.
That is my lot.

(01:24:00):
Yeah, you're stuck with it.
Yes, I will turn into salt.
No, you turn into pink salt.
Pink salt.
And get rid of that stubborn belly fat.
So there's a big, couple of lawsuits actually
involving AI, which are quite interesting and predicted
by Professor Dvorak.
We are getting some news on Anthropic.

(01:24:21):
Mackenzie Sagalos is that for us.
Hey, Mack.
Hey, Leslie.
So there is a new filing in the
class action lawsuit against Anthropic.
They are going to pay $1.5 billion
to settle a copyright case that was brought
by authors who said that the AI startup
downloaded millions of pirated books.
Now, the company had faced the risk of
more than a trillion dollars in damages if
they didn't settle.

(01:24:42):
A San Francisco judge does still need to
approve the deal.
Anthropic's deputy general counsel telling me in a
statement that this case established a key legal
precedent, saying that in June, the district court
issued a landmark ruling on AI development and
copyright law, finding that Anthropic's approach to training
AI models constitute fair use.
Now that is a big win for the

(01:25:03):
AI industry.
Leslie.
It's a pretty large amount for a, what
is it?
Four-year-old company there.
Mackenzie, thanks for staying on top of that
for us.
1.5 billion, agreement.
Okay, all right.
And who is that?
You know, I guarantee I did 12 tech
books.
On, you know, I got the PC telecommunications

(01:25:24):
book.
I did two versions of that.
I got online the book.
I got a bunch of other books.
Where's my $3,000 a book?
How do I get it?
I know that they scan those books, and
why wouldn't you?
Well, who gets the 1.5 billion?
That was completely unclear.
It would, the way I read the story,
and it turns out that the authors or

(01:25:45):
the publishers, that's not clear, get $3,000
per book.
It's all going to go to J.K.
Rowling.
That's just like Taylor Swift gets all the
music money.
No, she, per book.
She only, how many books has she done?
10, maybe?
So she gets 30,000?
She'd get $30,000.
That's nothing.
Hmm.
One of our producers is involved in investment

(01:26:07):
banker meetings right now, and he actually sent
in a PDF, which is a big eye
-roller, about, oh, it's, this is it.
This is the future.
But here's a quote from his note that
I thought was most interesting.
The big shops like OpenAI and Thropic and
Perplexity are struggling to find data to ingest

(01:26:29):
for their models.
They are looking for partnerships with companies that
have large and or unique non-public data
sets, and they are willing to pay a
premium for access.
Quote, data is the new gold in the
world of AI.
So they're out of it.
They got to start using synthetic data.
That's why all these images look so bad

(01:26:51):
on the art generator.
Well, that's an interesting little tidbit.
Mm-hmm.
Apple is being sued by authors now, now
that that 1.5 billion.
Well, I got to get on the bandwagon.
Who's the law firm?
I got to call them up.
I got to be on these lawsuits.
Let me see.
I've written a lot.
Look at all the columns I've written for

(01:27:11):
PC Magazine.
I don't think I'd be able to get
any money out of that, but.
It's like, I'm not going to get any
Ellison cash if they start replaying my Headbangers
Ball episodes on the new MTV, believe me.
Headbangers Ball.
Yeah, we didn't do the right contract.
My sister-in-law called me up.
She says, hey, they just played a clip
of you on Sirius XM from MTV.

(01:27:33):
Do you get money for that?
I'm like, no, no, that's not how it
works.
Oh, here we go.
Oh, no, this is the lawsuit filed by
authors Grady Hendricks and Jennifer Robertson.
So that was too individual.
You need your own lawyer.
Hey, I know who.
Rob the constitutional lawyer.

(01:27:55):
Maybe it might work out.
He can coattail on some of the other
stuff.
It shouldn't be that much work.
He's a bully too.
He's great.
Oh, I like a bully as a lawyer.
He's a bully in boots.
That's his new.
I've had lawyers that were not bullies and
they were just lame.
No, they suck.
It would take forever to get the job
done and it's never as good as it

(01:28:16):
should be.
And then the Snap AI.
So the FTC commissioner, Rebecca Slaughter, I guess
she's still around.
I thought she was being kicked out, but
they're now saying, hey, we had a complaint
against Snap because I guess Snap also has
my AI chat bot and it has posed

(01:28:38):
potential risks and harms to young users.
All of this stuff.
These are lawsuits just waiting to happen everywhere.
And I think the author thing, that's a
real deal.
You get Anthropic, you get Apple.
I think there's money in it for you.
And I want a finder's fee, Rob, because

(01:28:58):
I connected you to John.
So I want $3 of every 3,000
John gets.
What?
What?
0.1%?
I'm kind.
That's not what a finder's fee is.
Okay, 1,500, thanks.

(01:29:18):
No, that's not what a finder's fee is.
You don't know what you're doing.
I need you to be my agent for
the money I'm taking from you.
And I'll take the 15% from what
you get.
All right, what do you want to do
next?
Okay, let's see what we got.
I got lots of Ukraine stuff, but we
can hold off on that.
Some what stuff?
Ukraine, there's some stuff happening.

(01:29:39):
Ruta.
I have a funny set of clips.
Unfortunately, I only took the second one.
You're going to have to look up the
first of this from the last show, show
96.
And it's a funny exposition on the word,
um.
Yes, um is a word, but I have
NPR number two.

(01:30:01):
Is that from?
Yeah, number one was from last show, and
I didn't move it over.
I was going to move it over, and
I thought I did.
Yeah, yeah, I have one, and I have
two.
We have a match.
We have a match.
We say and hear it all the time,
and it's often frowned upon.
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
Hold on a second.
I got a message from Rob, the constitutional
lawyer.

(01:30:21):
Oh, he says he's going to hire me
as an expert witness.
There you go.
Perfect.
Perfect.
It's coming out of your check.
That's the way you do business.
It's coming out of your check, Dvorak.
I told you, the guy's a bully.
He's great.
He bullies his own clients.
We say and hear it all the time,
and it's often frowned upon, but this two
-letter filler word is a mighty building block

(01:30:43):
of conversation, so for our latest word of
the week, let's have a talk about um.
Oh, oh, cute, um, let's um, um, um,
um, um.
Latest word of the week.
Let's have a talk about um, um, and
PR's Ayanna Archie has more.
We use um for good reason.
It fills the space when we're trying to

(01:31:03):
think of what to say next.
It can soften our tone to make us
sound more casual or polite.
Dumb.
It also, um, signals to people that we're
not done talking, which is known as turn
-holding.
Buys you time and helps prevent other people
from talking over you.
That was Jessica Ferris, an etymologist and co

(01:31:26):
-host of the Words Unraveled podcast.
Delphine Dahan leads a psycholinguistics lab at the
University of Pennsylvania.
The planning of this word doesn't take much
effort, which means that's something that speakers can
produce on the drop of a hat.
Because of this, filler words with similar sounds
and uses show up across languages and cultures.

(01:31:48):
In France, it's an uh sound.
Brits and Australians say um.
Despite its dominance, um gets a lot of
hate.
We have established in corporate culture and in
public speaking and rhetoric that to make a
clear argument, you should sound as decisive as
possible.
So, where did um come from?

(01:32:09):
That's very interesting.
The lady who is the expert on the
um word, she's drawing out words like that
and uh to replace um, and it's obvious
she's doing it.
Yeah, I think so.
The earliest record of the word is in
plays written by John Marston.

(01:32:29):
He was an English playwright who used um
as early as 1604, the Oxford English Dictionary
says.
People typically don't write um down because we
have time to pause and think about what's
next.
But younger people have started writing um informally
to express humor, confusion, irony, or signal a
correction.
TikTok captions say things like, um, is this

(01:32:50):
normal?
Mignon Fogarty has written several books on language
under the moniker Grammar Girl.
Here's what she had to say.
Oh gosh.
It does show up more in social media
than in business emails or things like that.
Situations where people are writing as though they
were speaking.
Um is still used mostly in face-to

(01:33:10):
-face conversations.
It tells the person you're still there and
still thinking, so your commitment to the conversation
isn't questioned.
If I'm the speaker, say you ask me
a question and now I'll answer it.
I have to give you an answer.
Um isn't the bad guy, but if you
want to use it less, it takes practice.
You can start by speaking more slowly.

(01:33:32):
Ayanna Archie, NPR News.
I'm going to come.
I'm going to come.
Well, okay.
Is that both parts?
That's both parts, yeah.
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
Like I thought it'd be a little more
exciting.
Anyway, that was the, because we always criticize
people who say um, um, um constantly.

(01:33:54):
Yeah, I do it.
I thought that was a good segment.
I do it.
You do it.
We all do it.
Yeah, but not to an extreme.
No.
Let's get some ums from, from our boy
here.
From Ritter.
Ritter.
Oh, your buddy.
Yeah, he was on the Euro debates and,
there you go, and, Trump's best friend.

(01:34:15):
There you go, and, instead of um, I
say and, and, how come they didn't put
that in there?
And, he was talking on the Euro debates
and he is indeed Trump's friend because he
is right off the bat.
He, and at, at first I thought he
was talking about some prime ministers.
When I heard the names he was rattling

(01:34:36):
off because it's very unclear.
But what he was actually saying was Raytheon,
Boeing.
I thought he was talking about prime ministers.
And he's telegraphing to them what they need
to do next.
This is all about the war industrial base.
If I was Raytheon or Lockheed Martin or
Rheinmetall or Leonardo, I would think, hey, that

(01:34:56):
is strange.
And why is this happening at this moment
in NATO?
Because we are not producing fast enough.
And by the way, when it comes to
ship building and our Navy, and particularly the
US Navy, I'm really worried.
The ship building, we are very worried.
Hey, if I was Raytheon or other companies,
like Leonardo.
He was the last one he said.
He had a list, he had one there.

(01:35:17):
It was just, what?
If I was Raytheon.
Yeah, with Leonardo.
Let's listen.
If I was Raytheon or Lockheed Martin.
Raytheon.
Raytheon or Lockheed Martin.
Or Rheinmetall or Leonardo.
Rheinmetall.
Or Leonardo, I would think, hey.
Leonardo.
Leonardo.
What does Leonardo do?
Leonardo.
There must have been something else.
It just sounded like Leonardo.

(01:35:39):
Ships.
Do they build ships?
Do they build ships?
Yeah.
They build cruise ships.
Oh, a company called Leonardo?
Apparently.
Huh, maybe.
That is strange.
And why is this happening at this moment
in NATO?
Oh no.
Because we are not producing fast enough.
And by the way, when it comes to
ship building.
Ship building.
And our Navy, and particularly the US Navy,

(01:35:59):
I'm really worried.
Because this China has now more ships sailing
than the US.
And ship building in the US is not
at a rate that they can anywhere catch
up on what China is doing at the
moment.
We really have to do some more ship
building.
Ship building is where it's at these days.
Raytheon, get into it.

(01:36:19):
But I don't think there will be an
Article 5 kind of situation for China and
Taiwan.
When Article 5 is yes or no triggered.
It's there.
Yes or no triggered.
When it is yes or no triggered.
When Article 5 is yes or no triggered.
It's there.
I can assure you that anyone listening in
from China or Russia or other people who
wish us well, who think that we are

(01:36:40):
not clear on this, our reaction will be
devastated based on the whole thinking behind Article
5.
And when it comes to hybrids, we are
not.
Did you need this clip up?
No, no, they chopped it a little bit
on the.
Euro debates themselves cut him up.
They chopped him up.
This, our reaction will be devastated based on
the whole thinking behind Article 5.

(01:37:00):
not naive.
Hybrid is a cuddly word.
It sounds nice.
It's a what kind of word?
Cuddly.
Hybrid is a cuddly word, but it is
not nice.
Behind Article 5.
not naive.
It sounds nice, but it means assassination attacks,
jamming of planes, attacks on the National Health

(01:37:23):
Service in the United Kingdom, and many other
examples.
What is this attacks on the health service
in the United Kingdom?
That was a very odd statement.
I have no idea what he's talking about.
So hybrid is assassinations.
It sounds nice, but it means assassination attacks,

(01:37:43):
jamming of planes.
General plagues.
No, jamming of planes.
Jamming of planes.
Oh, jamming.
Oh yeah, there's reasons he's saying all this
stuff, but I had not heard of the
attacking the National Health System of the UK.
That sounds like something yet to come.

(01:38:05):
Attacks on the National Health Service in the
United Kingdom, and many other examples.
Very, very strange.
That is very strange.
And then try and riddle me this one.
We know President Eisenhower, when it comes to
the military industrial complex, although he was all
in, didn't he basically build NATO?

(01:38:25):
I can't say that.
I think he was a big part of
it.
I don't know, maybe.
Well, listen to this.
I don't know.
I just don't know.
Listen to this statement.
Sometimes people think we do the 3.5
% core defense spending for an audience of
one.
No, it is a coincidence that by spending
3.5%, we equalize what Europeans and Canadians

(01:38:46):
are spending and the U.S. is spending,
which is crucial, because we had to end
that debate which started with Eisenhower basically saying
that U.S. was paying more than the
Europeans, and the U.S. was totally right,
and rightly irritated, and expected the Europeans and
Canada to step up.
That's now happening.
So what he's saying is that Eisenhower said

(01:39:06):
Europe is not paying enough?
I don't recall this.
I looked for speeches of him saying that.
I don't think he's ever said that.
If anything, he said be aware of the
military-industrial complex.
Well, no, we know that, because that's his
famous speech, but maybe, I mean, he was
there in the office for eight years.
He could have said that anywhere along the

(01:39:27):
line.
Well, it's not famous where I could find
it easily on YouTube, but he brought up
GPS plane jamming, GPS plane jamming.
Now, I'm sure you saw the story of
Queen Ursula's flight being jammed, GPS jamming while
she was flying to- I have not
seen the story.
Oh, oh.

(01:39:48):
Well, give me a rundown.
I have a rundown, and pay attention to
how these ladies talk about it on CNN.
A plane carrying the EU Commission president, Ursula
von der Leyen, was targeted by GPS jamming
while trying to land in Bulgaria.
A spokesperson has said it's believed the interference
was carried out by Russia.
The plane landed safely after the pilots used

(01:40:09):
paper maps.
Senior international correspondent Melissa Bell has more on
this from Paris.
Paper maps, I can't believe they used paper
maps.
So, Melissa, good to have you on.
What more do we know about what happened
here?
I mean, pilots reverting and resorting to using
paper maps- Paper maps!
Just shows the incredible jamming that occurred here

(01:40:30):
where the plane systems, essentially, the GPS systems
went down.
Okay.
Now, there's another piece of this from this
lady, but let's just talk about what this
means.
Paper maps!
Okay.
So, up until 2006, literally, I was still
flying without a GPS until 2008.

(01:40:53):
Yeah, you had a sectional map, but if
you're landing at an airport, you use something
called the ILS, instrument landing system, and it
is radio transmitter-based.
Yeah, they're telling you what to do, right?
Well, you have an actual instrument that is
not GPS-based, and it grabs the vertical

(01:41:16):
and the horizontal, and there's literally two lines,
and when they align, you're on the glide
scope, and you're headed right for the runway,
and that's been used since World War II.
But now it's like, paper maps!
Oh, they had to land with paper maps!
Why am I talking like Rutte?
She's British.
Anyway, so this is, that's like, I mean,

(01:41:37):
you still have to train on an ILS.
Every pilot who flies has the instruments.
It's not GPS-based.
In fact, you use ILS landing more often
than you think.
This whole GPS jamming thing, the way they're
making it sound like, oh, oh, we're so
glad she got on the ground.

(01:41:58):
So lucky they had to use, paper maps.
We don't even use that in the car
anymore.
This is crazy.
And of course, we need to blame it
on Russia.
Froze, that's right.
We only found out about this today as
a result of the commission speaking out about
it, Eleni, after getting word from Bulgarian authorities
that this GPS jamming was, they believe, the

(01:42:19):
work of Moscow.
But it happened, of course, on Sunday.
This is part of Ursula von der Leyen,
Europe's top leader, of course.
The commission president's whistle-stop designed specifically to
shore up support for Ukraine.
On this tour, as she landed in southern
Bulgaria, this incident on what was a charter
plane, the commission's also recognized that they don't

(01:42:40):
know whether she herself was specifically targeted or
the plane in general, but certainly very concerning,
as you say, the pilots having to resort
to paper maps to land the plane safely.
It did land safely, and she was able
to carry on with her work, but she
pointed out on the tarmac there, after, of
course, learning of this incident, but before the
rest of the world had learned of it,
that there was an urgency that we needed

(01:43:03):
to keep in mind about fighting Russia and
continuing to support Ukraine.
You can see the images of her landing
on Sunday on that airport tarmac in southern
Bulgaria safely, but another example, as she said,
of the need to keep a very close
eye on Russia and to continue fighting.
Now, unfortunately, the whole story is bullshit.
I said it.

(01:43:23):
I used the bullshit word because for 10
years now, we've had something called ADS-B,
and ADS-B is directly connected to the
GPS system of the aircraft, and ADS-B
transmits altitude, position, speed, all these different parameters

(01:43:50):
to the ground over radio waves, which is
being received by hundreds of thousands of enthusiasts
around the world.
If you've ever looked at flight radar 24
or flight aware or any of these other
systems, that data is actually collected by people
with, some have antennas outside, but most of
them, they just have a USB stick.

(01:44:11):
You stick it into your computer and your
Raspberry Pi, and it receives this data, position,
altitude, attitude, speed of the aircraft, and they
aggregate that on these websites.
Well, you can see this flight from Queen
Ursula.
There was no deviation.
All the data comes through perfectly.

(01:44:32):
They were not circling around for hours.
If anything, it looks like they had a
missed approach, and they went, oh, I think
they lied.
They missed the approach.
They screwed something up.
Maybe they were flying GPS approach, RNAV or
something, and they didn't like it, and they
went around like, oh, man, we can't tell
anybody we screwed this up.
You can see that there was no interruption

(01:44:55):
of GPS data.
It just kept transmitting exactly where they were
throughout the entire flight.
This is a lie, and it's a laughable
one.
Well, it tells me one thing.
There's way too much ambient RF in the
atmosphere.
Oh, yeah, there's a lot of that.

(01:45:16):
These have been around for a long time.
Yeah, that's what we're on.
So, bull crap.
Yeah, that's a good catch, good.
So, now this all comes- It sounds
like bull crap anyway.
I mean, besides that, I mean, what mechanism
are they using to jam the GPS?
They got a bunch of, what is it,
Russia got a bunch of antennas positioned in

(01:45:37):
Bulgaria, or what's going on?
Well, no, you can jam them from satellite.
We do this.
We purposely throw GPS.
That's why- Well, this should be traceable.
Yeah.
Where's the evidence then?
Why don't we show some evidence that Russia
did this?
We're not.
This is just Queen Ursula.
They're just making stuff up.

(01:45:58):
But nothing as good as Ritter, who had
to, whatever reason, he had to downplay Putin
in an amazing way.
Ukraine is a sovereign nation.
If Ukraine wants to have security guarantee forces
in Ukraine to support the peace, it's up
to them.
Nobody else can decide about it.
I think we really have to stop making

(01:46:19):
Putin too powerful.
He is the governor of Texas, not more.
So let's not take it too serious.
What did you just say?
What did you just say?
Careful now, Mark, the governor of Texas.
You know, I think Abbott should come out
and complain about that comment.
That was rather rude.

(01:46:42):
Anyway, so with the coalition of the willing,
they had their big meeting, big meeting, everybody,
big meeting about what we're going to do.
We're going to do boots on the ground.
Who's going to do it?
How are we going to have it?
What's going to happen?
Come on.
After a day of intense talks at the
Elysee Palace, the coalition of the willing has
reached an agreement.

(01:47:03):
Today, 26 countries have formally agreed and some
others still have to confirm their position.
26 countries have agreed to deploy troops as
security guarantees.
Troops in Ukraine.
Which will be present on the ground, at
sea, and in the skies to bring that
reassurance to Ukraine the day after a ceasefire

(01:47:24):
or peace deal.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky welcomed the agreement and
expressed his gratitude for America's support.
We agreed that there will be a presence.
I'm not yet ready to speak about the
numbers.
Although, to be honest, we already understand an
approximate number of those who've already agreed.
We're also discussing a matter which I believe

(01:47:45):
will be further discussed.
It's the backstop of America.
We count on that.
We are very grateful to America for supporting
and being a part of the security guarantees
for Ukraine.
The coalition concluded the talks with a call
with US President Donald Trump.
A White House official was quoted as telling
reporters that Trump urged Europe to stop buying
Russian oil and put pressure on China to

(01:48:08):
punish it for funding Russia's war efforts.
On Thursday morning, a spokesperson for the Russian
Ministry of Foreign Affairs said the guarantees would
be a springboard for provocation.
They're not guarantees of Ukraine's security.
They're guarantees of danger to the European continent.
The coalition of the willing now looks to

(01:48:28):
the US to formalize the plan in the
coming days.
Yeah, so President Trump being very vague about
all this, well, yeah, yeah, we're here, we're
around.
You call us if you need us.
Russian President Putin is very clear.
It took Vladimir Putin a few hours to
react to pledges made by the coalition of

(01:48:48):
the willing.
According to French President Emmanuel Macron, 26 countries
out of the group's 35 have said they
would deploy troops by land, sea, or air
to help protect Ukraine after a ceasefire or
peace is reached.
This was the Russian president's response.

(01:49:09):
Should there be any troops deployed in Ukraine,
especially now in the course of the military
action, we would treat them as legitimate targets.
Yeah!
Vladimir Putin said he saw no reason to
deploy foreign troops in Ukraine once peace is
signed.
He also said that if Ukraine is getting

(01:49:30):
security guarantees, then Russia should get some as
well.
Meanwhile, you- Hey, we'll back you too.
Hey, Vladimir, we'll back you, we'll back everybody.
Then Russia should get some as well.
Meanwhile, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky hailed pledges made
by the coalition, adding that countries can step
up their support to Ukraine before a ceasefire

(01:49:53):
is signed.
In the next few weeks, we'll talk with
each country about what exactly they can do.
And it's important that security guarantees start working
now.
What?
I'm working on getting a Zelensky voice.
During the war- I'm mumbling in the
background.

(01:50:13):
All right, all right.
President Donald Trump has excluded sending U.S.
troops to Ukraine, but has mentioned the U
.S. providing security guarantees with no details on
what they would entail.
Responding to journalists on Thursday, Trump said he
would hold new discussions with Vladimir Putin soon.

(01:50:35):
Putin?
Putin.
So what I'm hearing is Europe, who is
war-hungry, war-mongers, they just want war.
They can't help themselves.
They're saying, well, we're going to put all
of our hundreds of thousands of troops that
were rousting from the German streets, we're going
to put them in Ukraine.
And Putin is saying, well, if you do

(01:50:57):
that, they're valid targets, unless I can get
some security guarantees, which I take to be
as, well, we're going to put our troops
on the other side of the demilitarized zone,
and we'll have an ongoing armistice for the
rest of our lives so everybody can keep
their war economy.
But to find out what's really going on,
we turn to my sage in all of

(01:51:18):
this.
Our Canadian, Andrew Rasoulis, who I think had
some good takes on this.
The audio on this first one is a
little choppy, but that's only a little bit
in the first clip.
For more on this story, I'm now joined
by Andrew Rasoulis.
He is a fellow with the Canadian Global
Affairs Institute and a retired Department of National
Defense official.

(01:51:39):
Thanks so much for talking to us this
morning.
First of all, your reaction to this latest
attack.
I think there's two elements to it.
First is Putin and the Russian military are
following up Putin's political words over the weekend
that the Russians would never tolerate any coalition
of the willing forces, that's NATO-type forces,
deploying to Ukraine, either either before a ceasefire

(01:52:01):
or after a ceasefire, that the Russians would
consider them as hostile forces and that would
also include any Canadian contingent.
The second point, though, I think the Russians
are actually gearing up for a very determined
fall offensive.
They have waged a very strong summer offensive
and recently have made some unexpected type of

(01:52:23):
breakthrough.
I think what's going to happen now is
the Russians are going for victory because all
this talk about coalition of the willing, deploying
forces, the Russians are not having that and
they're saying, look, we need to negotiate a
neutral Ukraine status and we must go for
Oblast or we're going to go for victory
and I think the Russians are very serious
about waging a war to force the Ukrainians

(01:52:44):
to accept the Russian conditions.
By the way, as a technical point of
note, the reason why he started cutting out
is because some idiot sound guy decided to
pot up the sound of Putin in the
background and Zoom doesn't know what to do
with it.
So they stopped that, luckily.
So what about President Trump in all of

(01:53:05):
this?
Let's talk about the timing of this, though,
because this is all coming just a week,
or rather a few weeks, after Russian President
Vladimir Putin said he reached understandings with US
President Donald Trump when it comes to the
end of the war with Ukraine.
Of course, that came out of the meeting
with Trump in Alaska.
Based on that and what's now happened overnight,
what was achieved there?

(01:53:25):
Well, I think what was achieved, actually, was
dialogue at the highest level.
We didn't have that before Alaska and then
the follow-up meeting at the White House
with Zelensky and Trump on the Monday following.
So no, we do have this dialogue and
because we have the dialogue, we actually know
how far apart the positions are.
But that is a result of dialogue, which

(01:53:46):
we, again, didn't have before.
So we now know that the Russians are
not going to accept the Ukrainian position and
the Ukrainians are not going to accept the
Russian position.
So we know there will be more war
until one can force the other.
Right now, the Russians are winning the war
and they have the stronger hand.
Yeah, he just says it.
That's really good.
You don't get that from any other Western

(01:54:07):
media.
Now we go to the boots on the
ground part and the sanctions.
Is any of that working?
Let's talk about something you touched on just
a few moments ago, the fact that Putin
has attacked this plan about sending any foreign
troops to help out in this conflict.
What are your thoughts on that, given what
Canada has said it plans to do, given

(01:54:29):
what France has said it plans to do
in deploying troops by land, sea or air
to guarantee Kiev security?
Where do they go from here?
Well, I don't think they go very far
because the Russians clearly said this is a
non-starter.
Now, the Western response to that is more
sanctions.
So they're saying, okay, we need to pressure

(01:54:50):
the Russians to accept our coalition of the
willing and Ukrainian position.
And the Russians are saying, no.
And they were in Beijing, Putin was in
Beijing with a couple of days ago for
the big 1945 end of World War II
parade.
And the meetings there, the Indians were there,
the Chinese were there, all of Putin's allies

(01:55:11):
were there and they formed a very strong
phalanx.
So Putin is feeling very strong about resisting
Western sanctions.
But Western sanctions are the only option available
for the coalition of the willing and Ukraine.
I'm telling you, they just don't want to
resolve it.
The Europeans are crazy.
And isn't this the proverbial, nobody wins a

(01:55:34):
pissing contest?
Because there's really only- This is the
kind of thing that deteriorates.
That's the problem.
This is similar to what happened in World
War I.
Explain.
Well, in World War I, it started off
with the assassination of this character.
The Ferdinand.
Ferdinand in the middle of nowhere by some

(01:55:56):
nut job.
And then it became a bunch of people
shaking their fists at each other.
And the next thing you know, it devolved
into a world war.
It was this damnedest thing.
And this kind of thing, it festers.
It's like an open wound.
Well, you're right, because there's only two ways
this can go.
Last clip from Andrew Rasulis.

(01:56:16):
Finally, I do want to ask you this.
Some analysts have said that Putin is betting
Ukraine's army will break before his economy does.
How do you see it?
Yes, exactly.
That is the Russian position.
The Russians are now, as I mentioned, mounting
what appears to be a major fall offensive.
That is exactly what they're trying to do,
is break the Ukrainian forces, burn them out
before the Russian economy struggles further.

(01:56:39):
The Russian economy is under pressure.
There's no doubt about that.
But it's not at the severe point.
There's no rationing in Russia.
And if you get into a severe wartime
economy, you start to ration.
So the Russians are not there yet, but
they don't want to go there.
They want to try and bring this war
to a closure on their terms as soon
as possible.
And I think they're launching these military operations
now, but they're open for a dialogue with

(01:57:01):
Ukraine.
If they want to come around and accept
Russian terms, the Russians will stop the war.
And the Europeans don't care about Ukraine.
They're cannon fodder to them.
They really don't care.
I agree.
And if Russian, the people talk about the
Russian economy, the Russian economy is doing just
fine, just as he said.
There's no rationing or anything going on.

(01:57:24):
And they're doing, and if they just turn
their sights on China and India as making
a giant market there with, you know, maybe
even Iran and South Africa and some other
people thrown in.
Yeah, the BRICS gang.
The BRICS thrown in for good measure.
The Russians would coast through this economically.
They don't, like they said, they can't, what

(01:57:46):
are they going to sanction?
They're not doing any business with us now.
Caviar?
We don't even use Russian caviar anymore.
Now, where do we get it from?
Nova Scotia?
No, we get it from everywhere.
Caviar is grown, we can get some good,
there's some good caviar in North Carolina.
We have sturgeon.
We have sturgeon?

(01:58:06):
We have caviar from North Carolina?
Yeah, and they grow the sturgeons there and
the big ones, the big boys.
And they have, it's all farmed in a
very elaborate system and they cut out the
caviar and sew up the sturgeon, put them
back in action.
And it's just, and you get this terrific
product.
They even have the high-end, super high

(01:58:28):
-end caviar comes out of the United States.
China has a lot of caviar.
Caviar, Iranians are the big caviar makers.
They're the, you know, alongside the Russians.
But we don't trade with them that much.
You know, I can get Iranian saffron.
I can go down, I know two stores
that sell it, so we're doing some trading.
But yeah.

(01:58:48):
Where's PETA in all of this, cutting open
the sturgeons and sewing them back up?
It sounds kind of rude.
Just for some eggs?
Can't we just catch them as they shoot
them out?
With their bellinis.
Bellinis!
There's nothing like a bellini with some sour
cream.
Mm-hmm, a little bit of egg, a
little bit of onion.
Oh yeah, baby.
I love me some caviar.

(01:59:09):
Especially from, where is it, North Carolina?
Yeah, I believe it's North Carolina.
I gotta look for that.
But that's not the only farm we have
in this country.
There's a couple I've, I look it up
every once in a while, because before there's
an event or something, I think, well, I'm
gonna buy some caviar.
And they ship it out.
Wait, wait, wait, stop!
What event?
What event do you have?
Well, I haven't bought any for, I would
use it at Christmas.
I'll buy caviar for Christmas.

(01:59:30):
I used to.
I don't do it anymore, because we're starving
to death.
We're not getting enough donations for the podcast.
But beside the point, I'm not squandering.
I'm using my income from investments for the
caviar.
I just wanna mention that.
But I don't have it.
I haven't been getting it.
I'm kind of reluctant, because you can get,
now the caviar, they even sell it to

(01:59:51):
Russian grocers in San Francisco.
There's a little Russian segment of town there.
The caviar is just this hybrid crap.
It's no good.
Hmm.
Well, if Europe really wants America as a
backstop, maybe they shouldn't be doing stuff like
this.
Not happy with the EU's fine on Google,
Donald Trump is threatening sanctions.

(02:00:13):
And no, I'm gonna be speaking to the
European Union, but it's not fair.
People say there was nothing wrong with what
they did.
It's almost a source of income to run
Europe.
Google says it's appealing, a fine of almost
3 billion euros by the European Commission, which
says the search giant took advantage of its
grip over online advertising to favor its own

(02:00:34):
ads and content.
Google abused its dominance position in ad tech,
harming publishers, advertisers, and consumers.
Harming!
Also this week, Google was fined $425 million
in the US for gathering data from smartphone
users that should have been protected by their
privacy settings.
I didn't hear about that.
Did you hear about this, that they were

(02:00:54):
- No, I've not heard about this.
From their privacy settings?
The privacy settings.
I didn't realize that they were stealing data.
Privacy, yes.
Data.
What?
There's gambling out on there?
And France's data protection authority fined Google 325
million euros for failing to respect the law
on internet cookies.
Oh, the cookies.
They were gonna get rid of cookies.

(02:01:16):
$325 million worth of cookies.
Remember they were gonna get rid of cookies?
They kept saying, oh no, we've got a
better system now.
We wanna use cookies.
What's a better system than cookies?
What was it called?
It was, hold on.
It's gotta be bad, whatever it is.
Cookies are bad enough.
You know what cookies were invented- It
was Flock.

(02:01:36):
It was Flock.
Who invented cookies?
Netscape.
Yes.
Originally invented for your, my Netscape, wasn't it?
It was, it was invented, I think it
was invented for the purposes of tracking.
I don't, there's no other reason to do

(02:01:57):
it.
But it was like, supposedly you went to
the website, then it logged you, so when
you went back, you wouldn't be getting the
redundant information.
It was supposed to be a good idea.
But it was, I don't think so.
Well, Google said many times they were gonna
replace cookies with Flock.
Flock!
You've heard of Flock.
Federated learning of cohorts.

(02:02:18):
A tracking feature.
Yeah, it's a tracker.
It's just a tracker like a dog.
Exactly.
But I guess they can't get it to
work or they'd have to share the information
with other people or they don't like doing
that.
And I don't know how they're gonna manage
eventually with AI.
Anyway, let's continue this.
These might sound like scary sums, but they're

(02:02:40):
a small fraction compared to the quarter of
a trillion dollars that Google added to its
market share this week as its stock shot
up by more than 11%.
Why?
Because investors are breathing a sigh of relief.
Google avoided being broken up.
The European Commission could have ordered Google to
divest part of its business, but said it
first wants to assess the company's efforts to

(02:03:02):
comply, giving it 90 days to do so.
And on Tuesday, a US judge rejected the
American government's demand that Google sell its Chrome
web browser.
As a reminder, it was Donald Trump's first
administration that brought that case against Google.
We didn't really talk about it, but I
thought that was quite interesting that they didn't
have to divest from Chrome.

(02:03:22):
If anything, I thought that would be the
right way to go.
I don't know what the right way to
go is with breaking up these companies.
Well, how about spinning out YouTube and see
if they really make any money?
That would be a good way to go,
but I think YouTube, now that they got
YouTube TV, they have to be making money

(02:03:43):
at this point.
I don't know, man.
There's a lot of data, a lot of
cashing at the edges.
I mean, it is not cheap.
What is it, $70?
Now they have hour-long videos.
Those things can't be cheap to post.
I'm streaming the quad screen all day long,
and every four hours it says, are you

(02:04:05):
still there?
And they're not doing that because it's not
costing the money, because they turn it off.
So you're using Google TV and you're using,
they have a feature where you can have
four screens up at the same time.
Right, but just- Are you using it
on one screen or are you separating it
out?
How are you doing it?
No, I have one screen, one television screen.
One big giant screen with four quads.

(02:04:26):
Big giant screen, big giant screen.
But it doesn't matter.
Anything, if you're watching CNBC, it doesn't matter
what you're watching.
After four hours, if you haven't interacted, they
shut you off because it's costing them money,
basically.
Well, they figured if you don't get the
message when they flash it in the screen,

(02:04:46):
you're not there.
Yeah.
Why should it be wasting bandwidth, sending you
crap?
That's the way I see it.
Yeah, because it's still costing them money.
I just don't think- Of course it's
costing them money.
It's not free.
Remember when Leo thought that bandwidth was free?
Yeah, I remember that.
Remember how funny that was?
He made a big fuss about it.
Remember how funny that was?
He's free.
Yeah, bandwidth is free.
What's the problem?

(02:05:07):
What's the fuss?
Yeah, he did say that.
With that, I want to thank you for
your courage in the morning to you, the
man who put the sea in the European
Coal Mission.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
DeMora.
Yeah, well, good morning.
Here's Adam Green in worship.

(02:05:27):
Seagulls, the graphite, and the air subs in
the water, and all the names and nights
out there.
And the morning to the trolls in the
troll room.
Oh, I had to cough in the middle
of my announcement of you.
That was bad.
And I thought that the echo would keep
going when I cut the mic, but it
cut the echo.
Oh, that's the reason that you had the

(02:05:48):
delay?
Yeah, because I would cut it off, and
it stops.
Interesting.
Yeah, it was bad.
1931 in the troll room today.
Still about 250 shy of what we're used
to, but it's okay.
No, no.
What do you mean, no?
It's 2,400, 2,200, it's 2,400?
What is it on Sunday?
As far as I'm concerned, it's 2,500.

(02:06:10):
No, it was never 2,500.
It was always 2,400.
It was 1,800 on Thursday and 2
,400 on Sunday.
Sucks.
It's just people who can't, maybe they can't
listen live because they've all become plumbers, and
they're working on stuff.
They have jobs.
Our people have jobs, man.
Well, we do have people that work for

(02:06:31):
a living.
There's no doubt about that.
But I think it's when we lost them
during the dark era where they couldn't get
on, they never came back.
It's like when you lose a person to,
when you lose a person, it's an old
marketing rule.
It's harder to get them back.
Than to get a new person.
Yeah, so you have to work on getting
new people constantly.

(02:06:52):
So talk to your neighbor and say, hey,
are you listening live?
And if they're not, then tell them they
should be because it's fun.
It's fun.
And you get the news right away.
You get everything's fresh, hot off the griddle.
And if you use a modern podcast app,
you'll be notified when we go live.
And I'm sure, I don't know, I can't

(02:07:14):
put a message in that.
I should probably, I don't think I can
do that.
Yeah, but make it, put it in podcasting
2.1. Yes, okay, we'll work on that.
Podcasting 2.1 is coming right up.
Get your modern podcast app at podcastapps.com.
That's where you want to be.
That's what you want.
You don't want a legacy app.
You want something fresh, modern that brings you

(02:07:36):
all of the great new features.
Now, including animated chapter images.
I haven't seen that yet.
Well, do you, you don't even have, you
don't even use an app.
You don't even listen to the show.
You'd have to see it on the art
generator, wouldn't you?
Well, he doesn't get them from the art

(02:07:57):
generator.
He gets them from other places and puts,
he just puts it in with animators.
Oh, just random images?
Rando, rando, rando.
Rando images, it's got something to do with
the show maybe or not?
Well, no, of course it has something to
do with the topic.
Yeah, rando images.
Yeah, he does a good job.
And that is part of our value for

(02:08:17):
value proposition.
Dreb Scott, he does the chapters for us,
which is quite a lot of work because
he has to mark everything, go back, put
it all in, go to the chapter studio
and add in the images, add in little
titles and funny stuff, and then he's got
to save it all, send it to me,
and then I put it on the server.

(02:08:37):
It's a big process, but it's value for
value.
He's sending value back as part of the
value he received for the show.
And a lot of those images that he
uses that aren't animated are in fact value
that we receive from our prompt jockeys.
I don't think I've seen a single original
piece of art in the last 10 shows.
No, no, there was one.

(02:08:58):
There was one that said, this is not
AI art.
Okay, there was one.
And to be honest, you know, it's hard
to find something that's really exciting anymore.
They're all okay.
Now, Nestworks, this, I'm not sure about Nestworks
because he is a real artist and it
looks like he's doing hybrid.
He's doing hybrid.

(02:09:19):
Well, he's a real artist, but he's not
an idiot.
Yeah, correct.
And- So he's going to use the
tools available to him.
Yeah, so this, the big one, the bomb
with no agenda, he's got the no agenda,
like exploding O, and he's got a hypodermic
needles going into this thing.
And it looks really good on a white

(02:09:40):
background, which is one of the- That's
a good piece.
It worked.
It's a very good piece.
And we use that for episode 1796.
Wow.
This is 1797, only three more to go.
And that's episode 1800, moving up on our
18th anniversary.
We titled that one Zeds, Zeds, for these
Zeds, the generation Zed.

(02:10:02):
Man, let's see what else we have.
I like, we need the list.
Yeah, because it was another orange cartoon.
It's an orange, it's not even orange anymore.
Now it's just brown.
Well, you're colorblind, so you're seeing more orange
than anyone.
It's orange.

(02:10:22):
It's an orange cartoon.
I also like leader of China is Mike.
That would have been great if it wasn't
a cartoon.
By Jeffrey.
Yeah, I'm going to tell you right up
front, people who make cartoons that have orange
in them, I'm not, I'm going to veto
them time and time again.
It makes me tired.

(02:10:43):
It makes you tired?
Yeah, it makes me tired.
I look at it, I just go, oh,
I'm so tired.
And comic strip blogger, you can stop with
the butts and the boobs anytime now.
It's not even exciting us after the show.
It's like just more scrolling.
There's another butt, there's another boob, okay.
So no, and- At least it's consistent.

(02:11:05):
Please let me know Jeffrey Rhea, who I
think is a digital 2112 man.
And who else does the Jeffrey Rhea, Jeffrey
Rhea, Darren O'Neill, tell me what AI
you're using, because it's all coming out the
same.
You know, that's model collapse on that one,

(02:11:26):
for sure.
Just nothing new.
But Sir Shug, who did the Therapi, Therapi
AI, which we didn't choose, but that's also
cartoonish AI, but has no, well, it actually
does.
There is- No, I said, no, it's
totally different.
It's got to be a different product.
But it's got orange in the letters and
orange in the thought bubble.

(02:11:47):
I mean, it's crazy, the amount of orange.
Why orange?
Why?
We talked about this before.
That's where they're keeping all the metadata.
Well, we want to thank Nestworks for bringing
us an outstanding piece.
Noah, ArtGenerator.com.
People are still having problems getting an account.
I'm not sure why.

(02:12:07):
I don't know if there's some secret to
it.
Is there, it'll kick back an error message
saying you uploaded the wrong size.
Does anybody know what that is?
I thought it was, don't you have to
do 512 by 512?
Isn't that what every- I have no
idea, Don, as you mentioned it.
Yeah, well, there's a problem.
And then people say, they'll send it to
me and say, what am I doing wrong?
Like, I don't know.
I really don't know.

(02:12:27):
Why don't you just forward the messages off
to our buddy?
I do it all the time to Paul
Couture.
And he's not paying attention?
No, probably not.
Anyway, thank you very much, Nestworks.
We appreciate that.
And we appreciate all the work all of
our prompt jockeys do.
I miss the Dutchmasters.
I'm not going to lie.
I miss the Dutchmasters.
I miss it a lot, but I understand.

(02:12:48):
I get it.
We have, in essence, also no end of
show mixes that are new.
But we have one new one today because
people have gotten lazy.
Like, oh, I'm just going to do an
AI song and then I won't play it.
I'm like, oh, he didn't play my AI
song.
Five minutes was dynamite, man.

(02:13:08):
They got to find some way of making
these AI songs short.
Short and funny.
Like 50 seconds.
Let's go over, limit it at 50 seconds.
And make them funny.
I'm not impressed by, wow, that singing is
great.
I don't care.
You got to have a hook, man.
Got to have a hook.

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(02:13:53):
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We got to put in an order and
it takes a month to get them back.

(02:14:35):
Oh, I thought Jay already put the order
in.
Not that I know of.
Well, we want to start off today by
thanking James Dumont from New Hampshire, New Hampshire,
Lindeborg, Lindeboro, Lindeboro, Lindeboro, New Hampshire.
There you go.

(02:14:55):
51538 says, thank you for the sanity.
How does the city and the state get
reversed?
I don't know.
I don't know.
They're all that way.
They're all that way.
No, no, they stopped being that way at
line five.
Oh, it was PayPal.
Who knows?
Thank you for the sanity you've provided since
COVID happened.
I would like to be declared the attorney
general of Gen Xers.
Now, there you go.
There's an attorney general title.

(02:15:17):
Who laugh at being ignored because we are.
And I request, you're not being ignored.
If anything, we pay extra attention to you.
And he says, I would like to have
the following jingle, spot the spook, and that's
true.
We can do that.
Spot the spook.
Spot the spook.

(02:15:38):
Everybody wants to spot the spook.
Yeah.
That's true.
It's true.
It's true.
Why don't you take this one because it's
about podcasting and everything you've been promoting for
the last 10 years about local.
Oh, Robert Kaminowski from Ohio, Seven Hills, Ohio,
350 and 93 cents.

(02:15:58):
He says, with your encouragement, my brother-in
-law and I have managed to start a
podcast.
Ah, just what the world needed, right?
Absolutely.
And if it's a local one, in an
attempt to keep track of what happens in
our local area, there we go, we have
started the Crooked River Cast.
Crooked River Cast, named in reference to one
of Ohio's most famous rivers, the Cuyahoga River.

(02:16:21):
Cuyahoga means crooked river, so they say.
It's most famous for burning in 1969 and
helping clear the way for the EPA and
the Clean Water Act.
Yep, it's our fault.
Tom and I dig through the news throughout
the week, looking for what interests us in
the great state of Ohio on news, politics,
and culture, keeping track of our critters in
Columbus, both the R's and the D's, one
show at a time.

(02:16:42):
This is like a local no agenda.
We're focusing on Northeast Ohio with a weekly
show posted every Monday morning, following all the
rules.
I love it.
After recording 25 shows this Sunday, September 7th,
the show can no longer be hosted by
a douchebag.
Please, de-douche me.
You've been de-douched.
We have a small but growing show that

(02:17:04):
can use all the help it can get.
We are having fun along the way, and
wow, do I know much more about what's
going on in my state for that.
I thank you with this donation of 333
.33. Of course, he sent us with fees
as well.
Check us out at crookedrivercast.com or search
for us in your favorite podcasting 2.0
app.
And he says, jingles, all the Al Sharpton

(02:17:26):
that he can get.
I pulled a classic for you.
And John's Ants, yeah, so of course we
can do both.
So congratulations, that is Crooked River.
What was it?
I'm trying to look for it now.

(02:17:46):
Wasn't it, oh, Crooked Rivercast, there we go.
That was, they'll never know, I'll edit it
out.
That was crookedrivercast.com for the Crooked River
podcast.
Thanks, guys.

(02:18:07):
The GOP infighting is escalating.
Political says Democrats are outright jitty.
Happy to watch the GOP implode.
There you go, outright jitty.
Sir Scovey in Charlotte, North Carolina is up
and he also wants the Reverend L jingle.
He wants the respect jingle.

(02:18:30):
And this is a matching donation alert in
the morning to Sir Gene, knight of the
neurogenesis, for the donation of 333.33 to
the show 1796.
Your donation has been matched.
Thank you for your courage.
Producers, two matching donations of 333 are still
available up to and including show 1800.

(02:18:54):
Don't worry about it.
You got a couple here today already, or
one at least.
Yeah, I think we're, yep.
Love and light, Sir Scovey of the Piedmont.
♪♪ R-E-S-P-I-C-T
And Alexander Wenta is one of those matching
from Manchester, New Hampshire, 333.33. And he

(02:19:15):
says, AI is fake, Christ is king.
Clear.
AI is fake?
Yes.
Sir Sam in Bedford, UK, and here's your
333.33. Gentlemen, it's been too long since
my last donation and I can't stand that

(02:19:36):
my cousin Scott Long is still a douchebag.
Douchebag.
Well.
♪ Douchebag.
♪ Okay, sorry.
I have to do.
Yeah.
He's the only person I've ever successfully hit
in the mouth.
Well, try harder.
So I'm using some of my Apple shill

(02:19:59):
money through the less than $20 a share.
Oh, you bought the stock at 20.
Nice.
Nice.
You can give us more than this.
Oh, it depends on how many shares.
Weren't there a couple of splits along the
way?
Oh, it's outrageous.
He sold it last year for a lot
more and to put an end to this

(02:20:19):
situation, oh, okay.
Oh, so he gets the de-douching now.
See, that's why I was holding him back.
♪♪ You've been de-douched.
Well, the douchebag was, oh, okay.
Scott does some amazing custom vehicle upholstery.
Oh, good.
At, what do we have here?

(02:20:40):
Sean, Seaninteriors.com.
Sean, S-H- Sine.
Sine.
Sine.
No, it's pronounced Sine.
This is a horrible name.
So you spell it.
Yo, Sine.
This is not a good URL.

(02:21:01):
It's S-E-A-N-A-E-interiors
.com.
Pronounce Sine.
Sineinteriors.com.
Sineinteriors.com.
Check him out if you live in the
Midwest and need any vehicle.
Please, I thought he was guys in the
UK and need any vehicle upholstery services.

(02:21:22):
Keep up the amazing work, John, keep on
bringing the TikTok clips and everyone else keep
buying iPhones.
I guess he's still holding.
He still owns stock.
Okay, Sir Sam of the Bedfordshire and River
Great, what's that say?
Ouse.
Ouse.
Ouse, what's an ouse?

(02:21:42):
I don't know, it's a kind of bird.
I have no idea.
It's a breeze.
Confusing note.
And then we get, what do we have
here?
We have Charlotte in San Francisco, 333.33,
another match.
I guess we're going to be done for
the matches.
Hello, John and Adam.
Here's my donation, she writes on a handwritten
note.
You can tell she's a woman just from

(02:22:05):
how she writes.
It's beautiful handwriting.
Hoping to be part of the matching rally
on one of your other generous donators has
offered.
Well, you're in.
You two make me laugh, underline.
And that's why I keep coming back.
Yours truly, Charlotte in San Francisco, California.
Nice handwriting.

(02:22:26):
Well, thank you, Charlotte.
Sir Eric in Texas, and he's in San
Antonio, 261.69. ITM gentlemen, Sir Eric here.
First and foremost, happy birthday, Adam.
Thank you.
Delated, but there it is.
I would like to congratulate you two on
y'alls continuing success and maintaining what is

(02:22:47):
the best podcast in the universe.
Y'alls value to me is incalculable.
So please accept this donation for exactly 261
.69. I would like to call out Jacob
Kleiss as a douchebag.
♪ Douchebag ♪ I hit him in the

(02:23:08):
mouth a few years ago, and he admitted
to me that he has listened ever since
and has never donated.
With that said, please attribute this donation and
associate executive producer ship to him.
Oh, so this is a switcheroo.

(02:23:28):
Okay.
My success of hitting people in the mouth
is lacrimose.
Well, there's a word that's got my, I
don't know.
Lacrimose?
I've never heard of this word.
With humorless or something.
But Jacob gives me hope in sharing your
message.
Please play 69.69 dude jingle and some

(02:23:51):
relationship karma would be appreciated.
P.S. John, please forgive me for forgetting
the H last time.
Do you remember what that's about?
No.
69.69 dudes.
You've got karma.
Steve Weiss in Nevada, Las Vegas comes in

(02:24:12):
with 250 associate executive producer ship and he
has a switcheroo for his smoking hot wife
in honor of their 25th anniversary.
And they never had a fight.
We don't know her name though.
Which, so what do we call just Mrs.
Weiss?
Yeah.
Miss Steve?
Ms. Weiss.

(02:24:32):
Ms. Mrs. Weiss.
I think Ms. is funnier.
Ms. Weiss.
Yeah, it's funnier.
Give her a train horn and a boogity
boogity boots on the ground report on summer
job sent in separate email to John.
To John, did you receive a separate email
to you, to John?
Probably mentioned his wife in that one.
I'd have to look.
No, I got blocked.
Do you have a train horn?

(02:24:54):
What?
Do you have a train horn?
I don't have a train horn.
I got this.
Wow, that was a lot of noise at
the same time, I'd say.

(02:25:15):
Okay.
Yes, I have train.
I got plenty of train horns.
Yes.
Jeremy Gray in Owosso, Oklahoma, 220.
I also have this classic.
Take it.
Yeah, well.
They're John and Adam.
This is my second donation to the show.
Thank you for a consistently high quality product.

(02:25:37):
Thank you for staying with us.
I like the following jingles.
One, Rubalizer.
Two, Obama, no, no, no.
And any old explosion sound effect.
Thank you, Jeremy, 220.
Couple things.
One, I'm retiring the Rubalizer.
It is to only be used for Rubalizer
donations after this.
Don't you agree?

(02:25:57):
Yep.
Okay.
Two, I don't actually have an explosion sound
effect.
Do you have an explosion sound effect?
I can find the other little sound effect
device.
Like there is one.
I mean, I have a boom crash sound
effect, but I don't have an explosion.
I don't think I, not, no, that's not

(02:26:18):
even close.
Wait, wait.
No, no, no.
That's not going to do.
No, no.
Well, I'll try it.
I'll try this.
India, Tango, Mike.
Standby.
33, 33, 33.
Rubalizer out.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

(02:26:38):
no.
Hey.
All aboard.
All right, there you go.
Okay.
You're up.
No, I just read this one.
You're up, Sir Hebe.

(02:27:00):
Really?
I thought I just read Jeremy Gray and
Owasso, Oklahoma, 2020.
Sir Hebe of Hogtown, 20166.
Hi, fellas.
Hi.
It's been a while, but I have an
excuse.
I had a ruptured brain aneurysm last December.
Well, that's not much of an excuse.
That's a good excuse.
However, not only did I survive, but I

(02:27:22):
made it through with no deficits.
I can walk, talk, et cetera, and I'm
back to work.
Thanks in part to the Duchess of Jobs.
Oh, Linda Liu.
Nice.
Well, we're very happy for you.
I asked karma for my friend Trixie, who
could use jobs karma, but also special karma
while dealing with an ex-husband who is
suing her to get her to get her

(02:27:43):
young children vaccinated for COVID.
She lives in a deep blue state, so
we're hoping for the best.
Wow.
That is, that is, I'm going to pray
for her.
That sucks.
As always, thank you for what you do,
and God bless Sir Hebe of Hogtown.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

(02:28:05):
Let's vote for jobs.
Yeah!
Karma.
Karma.
A little goat there.
A little goat to help out with the
suing karma.
Man, we're going to wrap it up here
with Linda Liu-Padkin.
She's in Lakewood, Colorado.
200 bucks jobs karma.
Worried about AI for a resume that gets
through results and tells your unique story and
highlights the value you bring?

(02:28:27):
Go to ImageMakersInc.com.
That's ImageMakersInc with a K, and work with
Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of
winning resumes.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Karma.
Yeah.
And they really do work.

(02:28:48):
You heard it right there.
The guy had a ruptured brain aneurysm, comes
back, gets the resume from Linda Liu.
Boom, he's back in business.
I love it how the No Agenda Gitmo
Nation helps each other.
And thank you to these executive and associate
executive producers for episode 1797.
Three more to go until we hit the
big 1800.

(02:29:08):
And of course, these credits are real.
You can use them anywhere.
Hollywood style credits are recognized, which includes IMDb,
it includes LinkedIn, any social media profile, or
just, it may just look very handsome on
your letterhead.
And of course, one of those resumes from
Linda Liu.
And we'll be thanking the rest of our
donors.
$50 above in a few minutes, but once
again, congratulations to these associate and executive producers.

(02:29:32):
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the
mouth.
That's true.
Hmm.

(02:29:53):
Okay.
All righty.
What do you got?
Huh?
What do you got?
You got anything good?
Uh.
How about Mandani?
Let's take the, just get it out of
the way.
Let's do a little Mandani.
Let's catch up with Mandani in Brooklyn.
Mom, what is it?
Let's get it right.
Momdani.
Momdani?
Momdani.

(02:30:13):
Momdani.
They're afraid of Mr. Momdani becoming an example
to what can happen all over this country.
Communists and socialists alike are taking over the
Democrat party as Bernie Sanders and Zoan Mamdani
team up to push their far left message
in New York City tonight.
Mamdani is causing headaches for the rest of

(02:30:35):
the Democrats with his toxic policies, but Mamdani
hit his fundraising goal and is loaded with
cash as he seems ready to take over
the party.
Well, folks, we've done it again.
We can't take any more of your money.
Truly, you need to stop.
Thanks to you, we've raised the maximum amount
of money we can spend in this race,
$8 million.
Well, now AOC is calling out the rest

(02:30:57):
of her party for not falling in line
and endorsing Mamdani.
I am very concerned about the example that
is being set by anybody in our party.
And so I think for the good of
the party, we must put our differences aside
and support our party's nominee.
Yeah, support my acting colleague.

(02:31:19):
Yeah, exactly.
The two actors together.
When we were talking to our friends in
Austin, they lived in New York for a
long, long time, even though he just worked
remotely.
And they had completely forgotten about AOC because
I said, who's running Mamdani?
Yeah, Democrat Socialist of America.
I said, okay, because he's a theater kid.

(02:31:40):
He is?
I said, yes.
Oh, just like AOC.
And like, what do you mean?
She auditioned for the job.
She auditioned.
She did?
What'd you think, she just came out from
the bar and all of a sudden was
a congresswoman?
No.
Hey.
I'm surprised how many people don't know anything.

(02:32:01):
Don't know anything, exactly.
Don't know anything.
Don't know nothing.
Yeah.
All right, keep going.
Oh, well, I could almost do a clip
blitz, but I'm not going to.
No, just clip blitz.
Let's go to, here's another one.
This, I think, is right up your alley.
This is the China new moon threat.
Oh, is it new moonies?

(02:32:21):
Senate lawmakers.
No, no.
Oh, I was going to get out, that
would be great, moonies.
Senate lawmakers say that maintaining the lead over
China in space is not just a race,
but a matter of U.S. national security.
NTD correspondent, Jason Blair, reports.
We are in a new space race with
China.
And if we fail, there will be a
bad moon on the rise.

(02:32:44):
Oh, please.
What's this?
It's critical to our future economic and national
security.
During a Senate hearing examining the race in
space, the main theme was that the U
.S. must maintain leadership over China.
If they get there first, we will see
a global realignment that will impact our economy,

(02:33:06):
our tax base, our ability to innovate, and
our national security in terms of diplomacy and
geopolitics that will affect security and many other
aspects of our daily lives.
It is clear to me that the Chinese
Communist Party is already employing its own integrated
grand strategy for the Earth-Moon system, with
only superficial distinction between civil, commercial, and national

(02:33:27):
security activities and all focused on a common
purpose.
Senator Tim Shih questions whether NASA needs to
make adjustments in order to stay ahead of
the game.
And I'm very concerned that the bureaucracy of
NASA, of which I love NASA, I'm a
supporter, but we have to be honest with
ourselves, is the bureaucracy of NASA positioned to

(02:33:47):
give us space dominance in the 21st century?
What in the world is this?
We went to the moon six times, seven
times?
Seven.
I mean, how many more times do you
have to be talking this, oh, we can't
do it, it's China, blah, blah, blah.
I know, it's pretty funny.
It used to be the Russians, you know,

(02:34:09):
oh, they got Sputnik.
This is, this just really, really- I
thought you'd like that clip.
Yeah, yeah, but it's like we've all forgotten
we went to the moon.
Ahem.
It's just, it's just, it's piling on, it's
piling on.
It is.
Here's an interesting little story, since you were
giving me the floor.

(02:34:29):
How about, oh, but let's play this first.
Stock trade, did you know that there's gonna
be a government shutdown?
I thought the big, beautiful bill took care
of that.
Yeah, it's a little confusing to me, too,
because now they need a, basically, a new,
what is it, continuing resolution?
Yeah, this is ridiculous, the clip is stock
trading.
A bipartisan group of lawmakers has given House

(02:34:50):
leadership until the end of September to vote
on a bill that would ban members of
Congress from trading in stocks.
It is time for Congress to act.
It is time for the leadership of Congress
on both sides of the aisle to do
what the American people have been demanding, which
is to end day trading by members of
Congress.
They do not send us here to enrich
ourselves.
While we are voting on the issues, they

(02:35:11):
send us here to fix and address and
then have members who are trading stocks on
the very issues they're supposed to be voting
on.
The clock is also ticking on government funding.
Democrats have threatened with a government shutdown unless
Republicans who control the House and the Senate
reach a bipartisan agreement with Democrats.
We had an opening conversation last week about

(02:35:33):
the importance of trying to find common ground
where possible in order to meet the needs
of the American people.
But in that conversation, I also made clear
we're not gonna support partisan funding legislation, period,
full stop.
The Senate has already reached a bipartisan agreement
on three out of the 12 appropriation bills

(02:35:55):
and the House has passed two but in
a partisan line.
Congress will likely opt for a continuing resolution
to avoid a government shutdown.
This is so tiring.
How many times?
20 times have we heard this?
That we've been?
More?
Yeah.
Oh, getting down to the wire.

(02:36:16):
The government's gonna shut down.
Checks won't go out.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah.
But I thought it was all covered by
the big beautiful bill.
I guess not.
I don't know.
I've lost control of this one.
I'll dive in, I'll have information.
I'll get information for you on Thursday.
I don't know what this is.
New information will come to light?
It will, yes.

(02:36:37):
This is troubling.
All right, let's keep up with Chicago.
This is Trump versus Chicago so we can
see what's going on with Chicago.
Chicago, okay.
We kind of did that earlier but let's
see.
Yeah, I should have brought it in earlier.
President Trump on social media today threatened Chicago
with apocalyptic force.

(02:36:58):
Oh yeah, this is a redundant clip.
Forget it, kill it.
Very redundant, yes.
Redundant clip, I should have played it earlier.
I'm deleting it right now, delete.
Well, here's, you don't have to do that.
Oh, too late.
Well, let's go with this one and this
is kind of where I think things are
headed.
They're not gonna go to Chicago, they're gonna
go to New Orleans.
And let's play this clip.
This is crime in New Orleans.

(02:37:20):
President Trump says New Orleans could be next
in line for a National Guard deployment to
fight crime.
Trump is also floating the same idea for
Chicago and Baltimore.
He says Louisiana's Republican governor is urging him
to send in law enforcement to help police
the state's largest city, but local officials in

(02:37:40):
New Orleans don't appear to be on board
with the plan.
But wait, doesn't it have to be the
governor?
Did she say?
Yeah, it would be the governor.
If the governor asked for it, then he
can send in National Guard.
Isn't that how it works?
That's right.
So he's, okay.
So the locals are bitching and moaning, they
don't like anything.
Yeah, well, they're very woke in New Orleans.
They got so woke during COVID.

(02:38:01):
Did you know that?
Yeah, I understood it.
Yeah, they got really super woke.
There was some friends of ours who were
younger, surprising here in Fredericksburg.
They, initially they wanted to move to New
Orleans.
They were all in on it.
And then, because they'd been to New Orleans
a lot and vacationed there and they loved

(02:38:23):
it and loved the food.
It's a nice town.
It's fun.
The food is good, but the management of
that city sucks.
It's horrible.
Horrible.
Well, that would be a good one.
So, you know, all in time for the
midterms, the president can show, oh, look at
what's going on here.
Yeah, we could have done it in Chicago.
I don't think he's gonna- Could have
done it in Chicago, yeah.
But they were resistant.

(02:38:43):
They didn't like us.
Bring in the war department.
I love the smell of deportation in the
morning.
Wait, don't we have an ISO of that?
I should have an ISO of that.
We should have that ISOed.
morning.
It's something about that guy reading.
It's so bad.
That guy reading it, that makes it good.

(02:39:05):
morning.
That's pretty good.
Here's a very interesting clip.
This is my FBI BS armed public.
It's from a vlogger.
Freaking huge.
Armed citizens stopped 48% of all criminal
shooters last year.
And the FBI was just caught massively lying

(02:39:28):
about those numbers in their public reports.
They recorded, get this, none of them, 0%.
Now you and I and everyone else have
seen those local heroes on social media, but
rarely do we ever see these stories in
mainstream media.
Well, the script is about to flip because
a new study by the Crime Prevention Research
Center reveals that armed civilians stopped over one

(02:39:52):
third of active criminal shooters between 2014 and
2024.
Nearly 10 times higher than FBI's reported 3
.7% average.
And again, with even more Americans getting armed
post 2020, just last year alone in 2024,
civilians stopped half of all criminal shooters.
Yet, as I just stated, the FBI recorded

(02:40:13):
zero of them.
You might be asking, how is this possible?
Well, while digging for the study, researchers found
that police were often falsely credited instead of
the armed civilian, which is a recording pattern
that clearly increased over the last 10 years.
Now this begs the question, why would they
work so hard to hide the significant benefits

(02:40:33):
of an armed public?
Okay.
So first of all, the term vlogger, that
is no longer a thing.
So I don't know why you called this
YouTuber- I put it down just to
remind me that this is some independent news
girl.
No, that's not a news girl.
This is a YouTuber.
But she's a vlogger then.

(02:40:53):
She was a vlogger.
She's a YouTuber.
And you can sit on YouTube all day
and get...
My favorite is people say, this is a
pretty good breakdown.
Look at this video.
And there's a YouTube video.
And it's actually some video report from mainstream
media, which is good.
And I'm listening to the report.
And then, oops, all of a sudden, a
little window appears in the right-hand side.

(02:41:14):
And the person there is going, yeah, this.
Okay, listen to this.
Blah, blah, blah.
It's unusable.
The tech grouch does this sort of thing.
The tech grouch is dead.
I tried to revive him.
The tech grouch is six feet under.
Nobody likes the tech.
Nobody liked that guy.
The tech grouch was great.
That's your exit strategy.
And no, no.

(02:41:36):
Yeah, it wasn't meant to be.
That was basically the sweetest chef of technology.
It was a perfect, perfect deal.
I could bring that guy in.
So I have two.
Now I'm gonna finish with these two ads.
Okay, ads.
Yeah, these are on NPR.
They're NPR people and PBS people are doing
more and more house ads because they're trying

(02:41:59):
to get people to listen to some of
their stuff, especially the podcasts.
NPR, in particular, is promoting all kinds of
screwball podcasts.
And none of them sound even remotely interesting.
I'm sure they don't have any audience at
all.
And so I've got two of them here,
and they're NPR.
And here's, the first one says, ad for,

(02:42:20):
and it says something I can't read.
Leafkit.
Yeah, Leafkit.
What is it?
Do you mean to write LifeKit?
Yeah, maybe.
Here at LifeKit, we encourage you throughout life's
big moments.
But what about support for those smaller problems?
Sometimes you just need a tiny pep talk,

(02:42:40):
like for when your clothes don't fit, or
for when you want to order delivery, but
should cook.
That's this week from NPR's LifeKit.
Listen in the NPR app or wherever you
get your podcasts.
Oh my goodness.
What?
Who listens to that?
Oh.
Who would want to listen?
What kind of a tease is this?

(02:43:02):
Do you have trouble fitting into your clothes?
Listen to our show.
Hey, John.
You don't know whether you should cook?
Listen to our show.
Did you hear the most recent episode of
LifeKit?
That was just- I never listened to
LifeKit.
Leafkit.
It's called Leafkit, actually.
Well, LifeKit, Leafkit, I don't care.
I don't listen.
Why would you?

(02:43:22):
And that boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom.
I know, it's ludicrous.
It's royalty-free music made by boom, boom,
boom, boom, by AI, boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom.
So here's the other ad that they're playing
a lot of.
This is, you'd like, this is a religious
podcast.
Oh yeah, I'm sure I'll love it.
There you go.
And it's called Yee God or something like

(02:43:45):
that, which is an insulting, actually, I think.
So this is the Yee God podcast.
Listen to this.
Life is a mystery for those of faith
or no faith.
Yee Gods with Scott Carter is the podcast
that makes sense of how we make sense
of life.
Each week we talk to celebrities, scholars, and

(02:44:06):
mere mortals to unearth what on earth we
believe and what we don't.
Listen to Yee Gods with Scott Carter, part
of the NPR network wherever you get your
podcasts.
Yeah, not going to listen to that one.
Here, I just put into 11 labs.
I said, make an NPR style music bed,
no vocals, sounds like boom, boom, boom, boom,

(02:44:26):
boom, boom, boom, boom.
Let's see if it can do it for
me.
Maybe we might hit upon a gem and
we can sell it to NPR.
Okay, it's creating the intro.
Oh, here we go.
Come on, give me the boom, boom, boom,
boom.
Oh, this is horrible.
Oh, you suck.

(02:44:47):
Can't believe I spent 10 credits on that.
Well, I think you did.
I think it was 10 credits.
Get a free account.
So I think LifeKid, I think this is
their credit roll.
You have to go to the top of
the list, the credit roll.
I think this is the credit roll for
a show that probably just has a couple
of interviews.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
LifeKid has a credit roll?

(02:45:09):
I believe this is it.
That's it for this week's show.
I'm Rundabh Dutta.
I'm Ram- What's her name?
Ram-bra-ba-da-bom-bom-bom.
That's it for this week's show.
I'm Rundabh Dutta.
I'm Ram-teen Arab-Louie, and you've been
listening to ThruLine from NPR.
ThruLine.
This episode was produced by me.

(02:45:31):
And me, and- Laurence Wu.
Julie Kane.
Anya Steinberg.
Casey Miner.
Christina Kim.
Devin Katayama.
Sarah Wyman.
Lina Muhammad.
Irene Noguchi.
Thanks to Tony Cavan, James Heider, Daniel Estrin,
Greta Pittinger, Johannes Derghi, Puneet Matiwala, Nina Pucholsky,

(02:45:54):
Edith Chapin, and Colin Campbell.
Voiceover work in this episode was done by
Devin Schwartz, Casey Morrell, and Nick Neves.
Back checking for this episode was done by
Kevin Vocal.
This episode was mixed by Gilly Moon.
Music for this episode was composed by Ram
-teen and his band, Drop Electric, which includes
- Anya Mizani.

(02:46:16):
Naveed Marvey.
Sho Fujiwara.
And finally, if you have an idea or
like something you heard on the show, write
us at ThruLine at npr.org.
Thanks for listening.
Here's an idea.
How about less people working on your podcast?
Wow.
Wow.
Well, we have Clip Custodian, Clip Collector.

(02:46:38):
We got Jay.
We got Jay.
We have- We have the No Agenda
- Dave Ackerman.
Mimi.
Dave Ackerman.
We got Mimi in the background, yes.
We have our artists.
We have our end of show mixer.
We got one, but we're playing three.
Well, we have a lot.
And you know what?
If you add all our producers, our credit
roll is much longer.
I'm gonna show my support by donating to

(02:46:59):
- Why are we complaining?
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
I don't think we should be complaining because
our credit roll is longer.
Yeah, but we don't have such screwy names.
By the- Okay.
Got a donation idea from TheRealCalvin33.

(02:47:22):
I'm not sure why Jay put this on
my list, but- I told her to.
Okay.
So this was very interesting.
Donation idea.
Sell, okay, that's not a donation.
Sell your- That is true.
This is not a donation.
Sell your printed clip list, that would be
yours, I guess, after each show.

(02:47:42):
Auction, maybe?
And can I have last show's list?
Well, you put it on there, so you
take it away, John.
Well, I put it on there because I
wanted you to give me some input on
this idea because I told him, you know,
that's an interesting idea, but who the hell
wants this clip list?
Nobody wants your clip list.

(02:48:02):
Well, he says somebody does, and he wants
the show 96, I guess it was.
Here's a donation idea.
Sell a picture of John in his Speedos
with his Crocs on a chaise lounge in
the studio.
Now, that's something I'd have money for.
Yeah, you would, but I don't have Crocs.
I never had Crocs.
I don't wear Speedos, and I haven't got

(02:48:24):
a chaise lounge.
I know.
Why did you- So I have to
go buy all this stuff or I have
to have AI make the image?
Think of it as an investment.
Investment in what?
It's a picture of a doofus.
The secretary says, invest in the show, man.
Invest in the show.
All right.
Well, we do, of course, have our coveted

(02:48:45):
tip of the day on the way.
NF Show makes his meetup reports, and John
is going to thank the rest of our
supporters for episode 1797, $50 and above.
Yeah, starting with Baroness Knight, who just got
upgraded.
She's in Edmonds, Washington.
Came with 150 bucks.
She's now a Viscountess.
Nice.

(02:49:05):
Yeah, she gets a title upgrade, I think.
Yes, she does.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
And so she bumped off the top of
the list, our regular Dame Rita in Sparks,
Nevada, who comes in 10907.
We appreciate you, Dame Rita.
You're getting up there.
She's got to be going.
Yeah, she's probably a Viscountess by now.
She should check.
You should check your- She's been donating
consistently, show after show after show for the

(02:49:27):
last year.
Yes, she was.
Especially had an old Jaguar, checked out levels
on those things.
Check your levels.
Daniela Pompu in Los Angeles, 100 bucks, and
that's a happy birthday donation.
Oh, thank you.
And she's got a birthday, so we'll put
her on the list.
She's on the list.

(02:49:47):
Sir Eric in Auburn, Alabama, 100.
Here we get all these reversals again.
This is strange.
Sir Eric, and I just did him.
Sir Andrew Gardner in Leonardtown, Maryland, 93.25.

(02:50:08):
And that's a happy birthday.
This is the 93.25 donations, and there's
two of them.
Dame Shelley's the other one from Grand Forks,
North Dakota.
Thank you.
93.25. Kevin McLaughlin comes in with 8008.
By the way, did you see what Andrew
Gardner says?
He says, I never lived in New York.

(02:50:30):
I was wrong.
I guess it's Richard Gardner.
There's a Gardner somewhere in New York.
Yeah, the one I keep saying lives in
New York.
You're the one that says Andrew lives in
New York.
I must be wrong.
I must be wrong.
Well, you must be.
Must be.
You musty.
Kevin McLaughlin, he's the Arshtooka Luna, lover of
America and lover of melons, 8008.

(02:50:53):
Syrup, as in syrup, Lake Forest Park, 7777.
Adam, you found your exit strategy.
Jesus.
That's right.
That's my way out.
Yeah, you're out of here.
Get out of here.
He says, John, you're next.
Join us in the exit strategy, John.
You'll enjoy it.

(02:51:14):
Where's the money?
Stephen Hutto.
Store your treasures in heaven, brother.
Not in your barn.
I'm not ready to go.
Okay.
Stephen Hutto in St. Petersburg, Florida, 75.
Mason Strong in Cochran, Alberta, Canada.
Well, that's the first time from that area.

(02:51:34):
This is $104 in Canadian dollarettes.
And he says, avoid TRT if possible.
Oh, he's got a long lecture about testosterone
replacement therapy.
Yeah, he actually says if you vape nicotine,
probably your testosterone is fine.
That's what's interesting.
I'm going to get the test.
I'll find out.
Well, to get the test is beside the

(02:51:56):
point what he had to say.
Well, no, but I just want to know
if that's true, then I should have perfect
T.
Oh, that's a good point.
Yeah, then you did nothing to complain about.
What if it's not true?
What if you've been smoking nicotine and then
you still have low T?
What then?

(02:52:16):
Well, then Mason Strong is going to have
to give you more information.
He says hormone replacement is a lifetime commitment
to big pharma.
Start with good sleep, vitamins, and exercise first.
I could exercise more, that's for sure.
Well, who can't?
I walk three times a day with the

(02:52:37):
dog.
That's my exercise.
Michael Edmond in Brookings, South Dakota.
These are happy birthdays.
I'm going to just read names and locations.
These are all people saying happy birthday, Adam.
And except for, I would have to say
Stephen and Ruby.
Stephen and Ruby in Pine Bluff, Arkansas, who's
also saying happy belated birthday.

(02:52:59):
Oh, no, is that belated?
These are all belated.
They're all belated.
Momentum Finance, LLC in Eden, Utah.
There you go.
Amy Harmon in Asheville, North Carolina.
Gordon Walton in Austin, where you was just
there.
That's Barron.
David Sternmeier, is it Steinmeier?

(02:53:24):
He's in Lakeview, Michigan.
And this is switcheroos, donating on behalf of
my wife, Alexandra Hilliker.
She needs a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
And last, a couple more on these.
David Cox in, he's also in Austin.

(02:53:44):
We got Austin covered.
Teresa Dump, what?
Oh, Teresa Dempster.
Andrews in Camarillo, Brillo, California, 6161, which would
be birthday.
Birthday, birthday.
Birthday, birthday.
Sarah Gardner in Wilmington, North Carolina, 61.

(02:54:05):
And these are all 61s.
Rob Barron in Leiden, ah.
Thank you, Rob.
Douglas Engstrom in Sandy Lake, Pennsylvania.
Look, a Bitcoin donation.
He's got a title change.
That's not Bitcoin.
Blue is not Bitcoin?
Oh, it's purple, it's Bitcoin.
No, Bitcoin is purple.

(02:54:26):
Title change in accounting.
It'll become Sir Douglas Engstrom becomes baronet of
the French Creek, Creek, I'm sorry, French Creek
Valley.
He gives a pronunciation.
French Creek Valley, okay, got it.
Blue is striped.
You'll find all your Bitcoin donations.
Go to the very bottom of the list
and you'll find most people are giving us
10 cents, 20 cents.

(02:54:46):
I don't know what that is.
I think even three cents, one cent, yes.
Yeah, that's big spenders.
Yeah, that's the Bitcoin people.
Michael Ragusa in Tustin.
They're hodling, man, they're hodling.
They don't want to spend their Bitcoin on
us.
Yeah, well, that was what I suspected.
R.
David Weicker in Jacksonville.
Wicker.

(02:55:07):
Do I keep saying Weicker?
Yes, that would be with a Y maybe.
I don't know how you get Weicker.
That's Sir by his grace, he's a knight.
I plead guilty.
Yes.
Sir B.
Boop, he's in New Brighton, Minnesota.
And that's a happy birthday to you again.

(02:55:30):
Gerald Preston in Bennington, New Nebraska.
Sean Murray in Warrenville, Illinois.
Go Bears.
Cameron Linga in North Branch, Minnesota.
Nuts, and that's the end of our well
-wishers, which is still a few more.
We had quite a few total.
So they're all saying happy birthday, Adam.

(02:55:52):
Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 6006.
Steve Banstra, he's in Nashville.
Sir Steve.
6993.
Pilot, Sir BNA.
Dame Nancy, she's in San Bruno over here.
And she has a note, she came in
with 55, and she says, donate, it helps
the show, and it's good for your soul.

(02:56:13):
Yes.
Troy Funderburke in Missoula, Montana, 55.
I like the way these, if you notice
the U.S., the states have been reversed
again, re-reversed, and now we're back to
the oddball.
Eric, so that was a check.
So that was put in properly.
The rest of these are, it's weird, huh?

(02:56:35):
I'm about to ask Jay what happened.
Eric Johnson in Vienna, West Virginia, 5272.
Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa, 51.
Now we got the $50 donors, so I'll
just read them off.
$50 donors, starting with Alex Zavala, and he's
in.
Sir Alex.
He's in Kiley, Texas.

(02:56:57):
Kyle.
Sir Alex.
Stephen Ray in Spokane.
Jacob or Jacob Rotremel, one of those names,
and he's in Decatur, Illinois, and Edwin Misurik
is in Memphis, Tennessee.
You haven't heard from him for a while.

(02:57:18):
Ray Howard in Kremling, Colorado.
And last on our list of well-wishers
and supporters and producers is Kerry Jackson in
Watertown, Tennessee.
You wanna thank all these folks for making
the show.
1797, the reality that it has become.

(02:57:39):
And thank you, especially to these $50 donors.
I love seeing you and the 61s.
Thank you all for the birthday wishes.
It's much appreciated.
Anybody can support the show any way you
want.
Time, talent, or treasure.
Go to noagendadonations.com any amount, any time
you want.
Whatever the value you receive from the show,
send it back to us, and you can
become a sustaining donor by supporting us with

(02:57:59):
a recurring donation any amount, any frequency, noagendadonations
.com.
♪ It's your birthday, birthday ♪ Oh, so
much, yeah Well, it's gonna be another short
one.
Daniela Pompe, P-O-M-P-E, belated
happy birthday to her.
She celebrated on August 30th, so we say

(02:58:19):
happy belated birthday from everybody here at the
Best Podcast at the Universe.
♪ It's your birthday, yeah ♪ Title changes
♪ Turn and face this way ♪ Title
changes ♪ Don't wanna be a douchebag So
we have two.
We have Baroness Knight now becomes Viscountess Knight,
and Sir Douglas Engstrom becomes Sir Douglas Engstrom,

(02:58:43):
Baronet of the French Creek.
Both thanks to the additional $1,000 in
aggregate that you supported the Best Podcast at
the Universe with.
We appreciate you for all that.
And we do have one Secretary General to
celebrate today.
♪ All hail to the Secretary Generals ♪
Cause they are the ones who need hailing

(02:59:04):
On the No Agenda Show And that Secretary
General is James Dumont, and he becomes the
Attorney, it says Attorney General, but it's Secretary
General of the Gen Xers.
Go to NoAgendaRings.com, you'll be able to

(02:59:24):
get your attestation in the mail.
And congratulations as the Secretary General of the
No Agenda Show.
Cause they are the ones who need hailing
On the No Agenda Show And time for

(02:59:48):
the meetups.
No Agenda Meetups.
Yeah, we got a couple left in September.
Actually, we have a couple this week.
We've got one today that is well underway
in the Netherlands, our first Head Village Forest
Meetup.
That is at Dachkamping Haarlemmermeersebos in Hoofddorp, Noord

(03:00:10):
Holland in the Netherlands.
I expect a meetup report from you guys
tomorrow.
Not very often we get one on Monday.
The Kootenay Mountains and Rivers Meetup, 3.33
p.m. Pacific time.
The Dam Restaurant and Bar in South Slocan,
British Columbia.
I expect a meetup report from you as
well.
Still to come in the month of September,
Keyport, New Jersey, Oakland, California.

(03:00:32):
John will be there.
Charlotte, North Carolina.
Tilburg in the Netherlands.
Bedford, Texas.
Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Indianapolis, Indiana.
We're hoping that Dame Maria and Sir Mark
will be back.
And of course, we've got two Texas meetups
in October on the list so far.
Johnson City on the 10th.
And right down the road, about 45 minutes
here in Fredericksburg on the 11th at J.

(03:00:52):
Sister Jenny's place.
I'll be there along with Tina the Keeper
and many other luminaries from the Fredericksburg area.
Go to noagendameetups.com.
Find out how you can get protection from
the connection you get at these meetups.
You will meet the people who are the
first responders in your life.
You need this.
And once you go to one, you can't
stop.

(03:01:12):
Noagendameetups.com.
If you can't find one near you, start
one yourself.
♪ Sometimes you wanna go hang out ♪
♪ With all the nights and days ♪
♪ You wanna be where you want to
be ♪ ♪ Drink it all, have a
flame ♪ ♪ You wanna be where everybody
feels the same ♪ ♪ It's like a

(03:01:35):
party ♪ It's like a party.
It's just like a party, everybody.
All right, I have one, two, three, I
have four.
You have one.
You want me to play mine first?
Yeah, please.
That's it.
It's a wrap.
It's over.
Okay.
That's one.
The best, the best, the best, the best,
the best.

(03:01:56):
Alex keeps on giving, man.
Okay, Boomer.
And my final one is a classic that
we already played.
morning.
Eh, it's not too bad.
Okay, I'm gonna put mine off to next
show because I like the Alex Jones one
so much.
The best, the best, the best, the best,

(03:02:16):
the best.
And now, before we get to that and
the show mix, is it time for John's
tip of the day?
♪ Great advice for you and me ♪
♪ Just a tip with JCD and sometimes
Adam.
♪ Well, here's a, I'm at the point
where, in the rotation, I have to find

(03:02:37):
a good website that people should put on
their list of things to visit constantly.
And this is for the CEOs, wannabe CEOs,
people interested in business and finance.
Finance.
Finance.
Investors, that type of person.
Yes.
It's a, and I think this is, I
think it's AI that does this.

(03:02:58):
There's no other way.
It's a massive scraping operation that is pretty
phenomenal, to be honest about it.
They've got some good code.
So when you hover over things, all kinds
of action takes place.
It's a site called BizTalk, as in table
of contents.
B-I-Z-T-O-C dot com.

(03:03:20):
BizTalk.
BizTalk is a killer site.
Hold on, something must be wrong because I
get a parking page.
B-I-Z-Z or one Z?
B-I-Z-T-O-C dot com.
Okay, I got it.
Whoa!

(03:03:41):
Whoa.
There's a lot here.
Scroll down.
Scrolling down.
Yeah.
Wow, there's a lot of, this is like
a show prep page.
Yeah, exactly.
Wow, there's a lot going on here.
Oh, this is a scraping operation.
It's a hell of a scraping operation, believe

(03:04:02):
me.
Man.
I think it's borderline probably illegal.
Well, they have a legal statement here.
Hmm.
They're registered trademark of Tomatic Inc.
Okay.
Yeah, maybe it's overseas.
I'm not sure what they're doing, but this
is pretty phenomenal.
It's a great website.

(03:04:22):
People would, you get a kick out of
it.
It's good for your morning briefing and going
into the office.
You sit down, what are I gonna do
here today?
And you go, you catch up with everything
on this website.
So did you look at the aboot page?
Actually, I did not look at the aboot
page.
I am Thomas Marban and I created BizTalk,
official successor of the infamous Web 2.0

(03:04:45):
phenomenon, pop URLs.
After building award-winning news aggregators for two
decades, BizTalk is the ultimate attempt in delivering
the entire business world on a single page.
And check this, BizTalk is proudly crafted in
Austria and backed by American entrepreneur, Mark Cuban.

(03:05:05):
Wow.
How about that?
Well, then you know it's legit.
Mark Cuban.
So if you're gonna sue anybody, Mark Cuban
is your deep pocket.
And there it is, everybody.
The tip of the day.
Find them all at tipoftheday.net.
♪ Creative pies for you and me ♪
♪ Just the tip with JCB ♪ And

(03:05:26):
sometimes Adam, created by Dana Brunetti.
Well, Mark Cuban, he sure has his fingers
in all the pies, doesn't he?
BizTalk, BizTalk.
Could have a better name.
Yeah, it could be a better name.
Especially if you type in BizTalk with a
K, then you're screwed.

(03:05:47):
They should get that domain problem.
That's why I said table of contents is
what they're referring to.
Yeah, I understand.
I'm an idiot.
Good.
Just letting you know.
Too many idiots spy, Kevin.
That's right.
Okay, boom.
And our show mixes from Joseph Grillo.
That's a brand new one.
We got classic Clip Custodian and Tom Starkweather

(03:06:08):
classics.
All of them.
We're looking for more end of show mixes.
Come on, guys.
What you doing?
Get on the stick.
And Canary Cry News Talk is next on
the No Agenda Stream.
If you feel like hanging out on your
modern podcast app or noagendastream.com.
And we return on Thursday with more media
deconstruction for you.

(03:06:29):
Who knows what'll happen?
We might be invading New Orleans.
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country where we won the Powerball.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm gonna
go to Amazon and order my pink salt.
All aboard.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
We'll be back on Thursday.

(03:06:49):
Until then, remember us at noagendadonations.com.
Adios, mofos, a-hoo-wee-hoo-wee, and
such.
You're eating cardboard.
We'd always say that.
You're eating cardboard.
I think my parents said cardboard, too.
Cardboard.
Oh, the boomer.
We are the boomers.
You're a little bit older than I am,
so you do cross into true boomer territory.
We're too old for chicks to care, boomers.
I'm a true boomer.
Get out of my way, boomer.

(03:07:11):
And we're not quite dead yet.
God bless the boomers.
For the boomers.
Eee-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e

(03:07:31):
-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e
-e-e
-e-e-e-e- Boomer talk on
display We are the boomers You don't want
to watch a couple of boomers with keys
on their hands What's worse than two boomers

(03:07:52):
on a podcast is two boomers on a
video podcast That's the worst You don't want
to imagine that We are the boomers I'm
a real boomer The two of us combined
is a hundred years plus Check out my
new Harley boomer You see now why we
have boomer benefits We're not quite there yet

(03:08:13):
That's pretty nice Kamikaze drones Kamikaze drones These
are lethal drops Kamikaze drones These
are lethal drops Kamikaze drones Peddling

(03:08:53):
in half-truths, peddling in false statements, peddling
in theories that create doubt about whether or
not things that we know are safe are
unsafe.
You frighten people.
In a gobsmacking statement of irresponsibility.

(03:09:13):
Almost all the members of this panel are
accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars
from the pharmaceutical industry.
Oh no.
And protecting their interests.
I thought that that would- No.
Are you supportive of these onesies?
I'm supportive of vaccines.
You are going to do such a solid

(03:09:33):
job for the people of this country.
How long does it keep going?
At some time you're just battering the witness.
I'm not battering the witness.
Yes you are.
You're getting upset at him.
You're going at him just like anybody else
would.
We're going over.
The best podcast in the universe.

(03:09:53):
Adios, mofo.
Dvorak.org slash NA.
The best.
The best.
The best, the best, the best.

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The Joe Rogan Experience

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