1798 - "Adam & The Robot" - No Agenda Show

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Bing, plong, plong, plong.
Yeah, that's good.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Thursday, September 11th, 2025.
This is your award-winning GiveOnNation Media Assassination
Episode 1798.
This is no agenda.
With nothing cutesy to say.
And broadcasted live from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number

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6.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're noticing
they caught the guy, they let the guy
go, they caught him, they've got him, they
don't have him, they have him, they don't
know what they're doing.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Yeah, tough week.

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Not a good week.
So, Todd Cochran.
Well, at least it didn't happen on a
show day.
No, gives us a little bit of time
to have nothing.
Todd Cochran passed away on, I think, Monday.
Which was, and do you know who he
is, Todd Cochran?

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Well, I know his name, but I don't
know him.
Oh, he was one of the very early
podcasters, and he founded...
Oh, yes, you mentioned, yes, yeah, I did,
I did.
Well, I never met him, but I knew
who he was.
Right, and he, well, he was a no
-agenda knight, actually.
Yes.
And he founded Blueberry, and he just died
suddenly.
Literally, that's what the, uh, uh, what the

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obituary said, died suddenly.
Of a heart attack, 61.
It's like, oh, okay.
Little young.
Yes, and today, of course, September 11th, where
we all have to remember that after those
devastating plane crashes everywhere, we found a hijacker's

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passport.
Completely unscathed, but let's not forget that.
Let's not forget that.
But yesterday, man, Charlie Kirk.
I got a note from one of our
producers, an Iraq veteran, because it kind of
fits with September 11th, because why was he
there?
And he said, double sad day today.

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Charlie Kirk yesterday, a true free speech assassination.
I saw a young Marine die in a
similar way in Iraq in 2005, and the
video of Charlie rocked me like it was
the first time seeing it.
Knowing Charlie more with his wife and two
kids and watching him for years and being
proud of the things he has done for
our young people.
I canceled all my meetings for today because
it's hard to stay focused because I'm time

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traveling back to Iraq and it's just looping
in my head.
And he also said that the videification of
violence is just horrific, which is true.
You know, you and I've discussed, you're not
really on X like that with an algorithm.
You're just, uh, on the, on the website,
I think.
But it's always, my phone's in a drawer.

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Yes, smartly.
It's always, everything you see is violence.
If you just scroll and if you let
the videos go, it's all just people beating
each other up.
That's if you keep picking it.
If you watch those, if you stop watching
those videos, you'll start getting something else.
Yeah, no, that's not true because I've tried
everything.

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Tried everything.
Um, so you sent a couple of bonus
clips, which I want to start because I,
I presume you have the latest update, which
I don't have, but I'll just tell you
something changed in me yesterday.
This was something changed in me.
Something changed.
You know, we all went to church.
We prayed for Charlie, his friends, his family

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prayed for our country.
I can't claim this show from this day
forward will ever could really be called no
agenda because from now on, I got an
agenda, an American agenda.
And that's based on what Charlie Kirk stood
for truth.
According to the word of God, I am
sick of it.
All sick of it.
Time to put down our phones and pick

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up our Bibles.
Give me your bonus clips.
What you got?
Well, I have the teaser clip from ABC,
which is what brought me to the second
clip and the, um, because the second clip
kind of brings it.
Look, I was not expecting this.
I thought it was just, I thought we
will discuss this, but I thought this was

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a professional hit.
I completely, I still think it was.
Well, to a point, but there's some conspiracy
aspect to it.
And being a professional hit, I led me
to believe that they're never going to catch
the guy because he already had, because from
what you can tell from what we've been
told is there were two decoys and which

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is one more than usual that were both
picked up and let go.
And there was, uh, and the guy was,
you know, he was, it was a one
shot, which was important to note.
Bolt action rifle.
Supposedly.
Well, newsflash, nobody knows anything.

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And the FBI is certainly the last to
know, apparently.
And, and, uh, so we have, uh, um,
this, this broke this morning from ABC.
Hi, I'm Diane Macedo.
Let's get right to breaking news.
The FBI is asking for help identifying this
man who they are calling a person of

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interest in the shooting of conservative activist, Charlie
Kirk.
Sources tell ABC news ammunition found with the
rifle was engraved with messages about transgender issues
and anti-fascist ideology.
Yeah.
Really convenient in this case.
Well, I don't know how convenient it was,

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but the point is that they brought it
in later.
They had a, there's a long presentation and
they, they had, uh, gotten as far as
they could with the, uh, with the story.
As far as I'm concerned, that teaser there
was probably the thing wrapped up in a,
in a nutshell, in a package.
So then we have this from this.

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I picked up, I kind of, I retweeted
this and I took it down.
I said, I don't know, maybe not because
this is inflammatory, but I thought this clip
was, uh, quite interesting.
Yeah.
You got to tell me which clip that
is.
Cause it's trans.
Oh, hold on a second.
It was the second bonus clip.

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I know I saved it.
Hold on a second.
I don't understand why it's not here.
Uh, I'm sorry.
I, I, I, I'm telling you, I saved
this clip.
And for some reason, you probably saved it
to wrong.
It probably went to a wrong folder.
Then, uh, it's foreboding.

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Here it is.
Okay.
Hold on a second.
Sorry about that.
I'll cut this out.
No one will ever know the difference.
Oh, if, if, if, oh, if it's a
trans shooter, baby, the trans community.
So this person here goes to the university.
Of course, they, them, and look at what
he said yesterday.

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He says here, Charlie Kirk is coming to
my college tomorrow.
I really hope someone evaporates him literally.
And then he writes, let's just say something
big will happen tomorrow.
So a trans student is saying this yesterday.
And I also find it very, very odd
that the person asking the question was asking

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Charlie about trans shooters before he got shot.
So FBI cash, Mattel for the fuck this
dude is.
Yeah.
I think you should look into this.
Yeah.
No, that's a, I think we probably all
saw that post.
And the person who posted that after I
was like, no, no, no, I didn't do
it.
There are a lot of people saying, no,
no, no.
The other thing is the coincidence.

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Cause the question was to Charlie, how many
trans shooters were involved in, you know, mass
shootings in the last 10 years?
And Charlie's answer was a little glib, which
was abnormal for him.
But it was a good, good.
It was good.
It was funny.
Okay.
Do you know how many transgender Americans have

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been mass shooters over the last 10 years?
Too many.
I think it replays here.
Okay.
Now five is a lot, right?
I'm going to give you, I'm going to
give you some credit.
Do you know how many mass shooters there
have been in America over the last 10
years?
Counting or not counting gang violence.
Great.

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So the, the, the time differential between him
saying too many and getting shot was 11
seconds.
And the, the coincidence is a little too
much for me.
Me too.
Because you had the guy posting this note
and then in total denial.
The next thing you know, you have a
trans guy asking a specific or trans.

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I don't know if he was, he wasn't.
No, I don't think, I don't think he
was.
No, he was just some guy or dude
or they, them who knows, but some guy
at coincidentally asking a question about trans shooters.
And with 11 seconds, he gets shot.
And then we, now we have the report
from ABC that has these etchings on bullets
or something, which may or may not be

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true.
But this, if this is lined up to
just sabotage, and there's also an Antifa angle,
according to ABC, there was Antifa stuff.
It's a little bit too much to expect
this to be a, a, an op anti

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-trans op.
There's something going on.
Yeah, we have an enemy in America.
And if anything, that enemy is trying to
cause civil war because that's where we're headed.
And I don't buy that.
Oh, okay.
You don't buy it.
I know we're not headed to a civil

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war.
World wars have been started over one guy
getting shot.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you say whatever you want, I'm telling
you how I feel.
And if anyone's to blame, if anyone's to
blame, it's the crap that we have on
television.
It's the crap that our politicians, it's the
crap that is repeated on social media.

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And it's crap like this.
But following up with what was just said,
he's been one of the most divisive, especially
divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly
sort of pushing this sort of hate speech
or sort of aimed at certain groups.
And I always go back to hateful thoughts
lead to hateful words, which then lead to

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hateful actions.
Exactly.
Let's hear an example.
I just don't even know why there aren't
uprisings all over the country.
And maybe there will be.
People need to start taking to the streets.
This is a dictator.
You know, there needs to be unrest in
the streets for as long as there's unrest
in our lives.
Enemies of the state.
Show me where it says that protests are

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supposed to be polite and peaceful.
Do something about your dad's immigration practices, you
feckless vagal lowly kid.
How do you resist the temptation to run
up and bring her neck?
The biggest terror threat in this country is
white men, most of them radicalized up to
the right.
I thought he should have punched him in
the face.
I said, even if he lost, he insulted

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your wife.
He came down the escalator and called Mexicans
rapists and murderers.
He said, well, what do you think I
should have done?
I said, I think you should have punched
him in the face and then gotten out
of the race.
He would have been a hero.
I'd like to punch him in the face.
I said, if we were in high school,
I'd take him behind the gym and beat
the hell out of him.
Punch some people in the face.
When was the last time an actor assassinated
a president?
They're still going to have to go out

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and put a bullet in Donald Trump.
And that's a fact.
Look as his character is stabbed to death.
Where is John Wilkes Booth when you need
him?
I have thought an awful lot about blowing
up the White House.
A Missouri state senator is under investigation by
the Secret Service after saying she hopes President

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Trump is assassinated.
I will go and take Trump out tonight.
And if you see anybody from that cabinet
in a restaurant.

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And sadly, the domestic enemies to our voting
system and our honor and our Constitution are
right at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
They're not going to stop before Election Day
in November, and they're not going to stop
after Election Day.
And that should be everyone should take note
of that on both levels, that this isn't
they're not going to let up and they

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should not.
When you have weak people who clearly are
mentally ill, this this kind this kind of
rhetoric can stir people up to not job
stuff.
Well, that's definitely true.
But if you're going to blame anybody, if
we're going to go with the transgender angle,
I would blame the medical community.

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I'm with you.
I'm completely with you.
But it's not just the medical community.
It's the lawmakers who are pushing for this.
The news that continuously pushes for this.
Political opinions that continue push for this.
Yeah.
And, you know, I'm also done with the
abortion baby killing.
I'm done with all of it.
I'm done with all of this crap.

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And I'm also done with Israel.
Who may or may not.
I mean, if this was a if this
was a an assassin's hit.
Listen to what Charlie Kirk was saying about
Israel.
I have less ability sometimes online to criticize
the Israeli government about backlash than actual Israelis
do.
You're not allowed to.
It's even worse than that.
Like I host a person that I do.

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I moderate the debate of my right.
And I give equal time to Josh Hammer,
equal time to a pro-Israel advocate.
And my moral character is being put into
question.
And so I just I think it's a
hyper paranoid.
Like we're just going to try to we're
going to just stamp out everything type type

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of practice.
You can't go there when it comes to
Israel.
Well, you and I believe that we're Americans
and Americans first, period.
End of story.
We are citizens of this nation.
OK, and Israel, we have funded.
We have supported.
Not like we're going to.
But we're like, honestly, the way you are
treating me is so repulsive.

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I have text messages, Megan, calling me an
anti-Semite.
But my moral character is now being put
into question, Megan.
Not my decisions.
Not like, hey, are you doing this?
Is it smart or is it dumb?
But no, I am a bad person if
I do this.
For all we know, this could have been
a warning to Trump.

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Oh, you really you have a problem with
us bombing Qatar bombing people in Qatar?
You got a problem with that?
I wouldn't put it past Bibi Netanyahu.
He's off the rails, that guy.
He's gone too far now.
Well, that's something of a stretch.
Although you'd be curious that you now agree
with Natalie and Clayton.
I'm not agreeing.
I'm saying for all we know, we don't

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know anything.
Well, that's their thesis.
What I do know.
Is for people saying, what was this airplane?
The assassin left on a private plane.
He left the airport just, you know, just
right after Kirk was shot.
But the airplane, November eight, eight, eight kilo
golf was actually the plane Charlie Kirk traveled

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on most.
I know this because when I saw him
speak in Dallas, we landed our little four
seater at Addison Airport.
And I saw and that was the.
If it was Addison, that was the only
plane I saw.
And I spoke to the people there and
they told me that that was Kirk's plane.
And it's it's like a net jet.
So it can leave, it can stay overnight

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whenever, whenever and wherever they need it.
So that's that's not true.
But.
The ignorance, the ignorance of people, you know,
we have the Patriot Academy here and.
You know, which is they they teach young
people how to introduce bills and how to

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argue them on the floor and how to
make them politically savvy to get them into
government.
And so they were going to create Constitution
City, which would be like a small, you
know, 200 person city.
It's a 1776, you know, Patriot Way, whatever.
It's all QC.

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If you see what people post about them
online, it's unbelievable.
Burn it, bomb them.
Maybe this will be another Waco.
They'll kill each other and do the rest
of us a favor, nuke it, let them
die by their bigotry.
People are ignorant and they and all they
do is they sit on their phones all
day and listen to nonsense and nonsense politicians

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and nonsense talking heads.
And they believe this stuff.
And then you get people.
I only have one of them because it's
just too annoying.
What's the this is just a perfect example.
White woman, green hair.
Some be very fucking clear about this so
that, you know, exactly where I stand.
And I will say this with my whole
entire chest.
There are some people on this app that

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are sitting there saying, oh, you shouldn't wish
death upon any person, no matter what side
they're on.
Fuck that.
Fuck that.
Charlie Kirk was a fucking Nazi.
He was a fucking Nazi.
And you know what kind of Nazi is
the best Nazi?
A dead one.
Thank God that shit stain of a person

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is no longer in this world.
And may his hell be being confronted by
every single marginalized person that he hurts.
That is what is fucking wrong with you.
That does not make me a bad person
for thinking that bad people should not be
in this world.
So fuck that Nazi and have a great
day.

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And, you know, you've seen it.
There was a lot of this everywhere.
Oh, there's some gems, you know, and my
favorite proverb fools find no pleasure in understanding,
but delight in airing their own opinions.
That is exactly what that woman is.
So.
We hopefully we'll find out.
Hopefully we'll figure this out, man.

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If it was Netanyahu.
It wasn't Netanyahu.
Oh, you don't know that.
You don't know anything.
Remember, we just found the passport for the
hijackers.
But to go out of the blue with
Netanyahu is just ridiculous.
I don't care what you think about my

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ridiculous assertions.
I'm not leaving anything off the table.
Anything.
There's.
Well, how about how about this?
The whole thing was it was a staged
and it was an extraction.
No, I don't.
Oh, you just left something off the table.
OK, I just wanted to clear that up.
Please show me the evidence.

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Or do you have.
Show me the evidence of Netanyahu.
I have no evidence other than a very
targeted hit.
I'm just pointing out that you're you are
leaving stuff off the table and you are
you're just being bigoted in some funny way.
I'm not being bigoted.
You know, I actually yesterday thought I would
stop doing this show.
I'm so sick and tired of you just

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saying these things.
I have an opinion.
Do you tell me I'm bigoted?
Where's your green hair, dude?
I'm just saying.
But, you know, you'll get over it.
Let's listen to some analysis.
Maybe you'll get over it.
Maybe.
And maybe not.
Maybe.

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So let's listen to some analysis about.
And I thought this was kind of interesting.
This is about the police work going into
this from some quasi spook character.
This is Kirk analysis, police work, NTD.
And joining us now to unpack the tragic
death of Charlie Kirk is Michael Letts.
He's a former Green Beret and law enforcement

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expert.
He's also the CEO of Invest USA.
Michael, thank you so much for joining us
to discuss this tragedy.
First, what will federal law enforcement have to
do to figure out exactly what happened?
A large crowd of students were there, as
Charlie spoke, will need to be assessed.
The first thing we'll have to do is
go in and do the trajectory, find out

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exactly where the round came from.
You know, it's kind of tragic that this
much time has passed without that being pinpointed.
But they're in the process of doing that
now.
Obviously, we'll have to match up the trajectory
with the exact location, the exact casing on
the shell, what type of rifle was used.
And then we're going to have to go
into the intel community, find out, chatter, find

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out the list of suspects.
And that may be very broad, because obviously,
Charlie's message was controversial.
It was right on point, but it was
controversial.
And so there's a lot of people that
would seek to do him harm.
So we're going to have to make sure
that that gets done, gets done effectively.
The problem that it does bring is that
it could take some time.

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But one of the things I want to
reassure the American people is that America stands
strong and firm, has always stood strong and
firm on the matters of patriotism and truth.
And this will not deter us in any
form or fashion.
And who is this guy?
Well, they introduced him at the beginning.
You can play that again if you want
to know.
But the thing that I thought interesting about

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this clip was that the intel community has
a list of suspects just sitting around that
they keep track of everybody.
Let me listen to who that guy is
again.
Let me hear his intro.
And joining us now to unpack the tragic
death of Charlie Kirk is Michael Letts.
He's a former Green Beret and law enforcement
expert.
He's also the CEO of Invest USA.

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Invest USA.
Well, I'll have to look that up.
But he clearly says Charlie Kirk had a
controversial message.
What was controversial to nut jobs?
Who was it controversial to?
It was obviously controversial to everybody at MSNBC.
Invest USA sells bulletproof vests.

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OK.
Well, there's an expert.
Well, I mean, you can say what you
want.
Just play clip two.
And of course, right now, it's still early
stages.
But from your perspective, what kind of weapon
could have been used here today?
It definitely was a long range rifle.
I believe it was a sniper rifle, which,
quite frankly, if the case proves to be

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accurate, then this was not some just off
the cuff, shall we say, disgruntled leftist personnel.
This would have been a well-coordinated and
a well-planned attack.
It would have been given a lot of
consideration, a lot of thought, which then narrows
the prospects of the suspects that we're looking
at.
But it also raises great concern.

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Where do they stop?
Going after conservatives.
Obviously, they attempted to assassinate the president.
They've made other attempts on other personnel.
So where is their stop?
Where is their ending point?
Are they just determined to make sure they
continue this violence against the American people until
they get whatever it is they're looking for,
which obviously is a return of power?

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Oh, so he's saying the Democrats, basically.
Yeah, that's what he's saying, basically.
Democrats.
And all those clips that you played earlier
of all the people shaking their fists and
asking for violence, if you noticed, they were
all Democrats.
Oh, completely.

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You had Nancy Pelosi.
You had, what's her name, Doug Waters.
You had each and every one of them.
You had Rick, what's his name, the guy
who called for the assassination.
The Lincoln Project, whatever.
Rick Wilson.
You had everybody and their sister in that
clip series that you played.
You can play it again.
Don't.

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Was all Democrats.
They're all Democrats.
Leftists, including news people.
I don't even think they were even that
much leftist.
They were all Democrats.
I mean, you can call a Democrat a
leftist, but I think they're just Democrats.
Okay.
I call them Marxists, socialists.

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I just don't see Nancy Pelosi being a
Marxist.
She's a pure capitalist.
Okay.
But she's a Democrat.
And she was one of the people in
there, in that clip series.
Let's go to three.
And Michael, I've seen cancel culture and violence
rise at universities carried out against conservative speakers.

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Do you expect what happened today to bring
about serious change in this regard?
Hold on a second.
Did I get the right one?
Is that clip three?
Yeah, I think so.
Well, the question will be, what kind of
change can it bring about?
Can you do one or two things?
Can it silence conservatives?
Absolutely not.
I think you're going to see more voices
that are going to rise up and take
the place of what Charlie was doing, such

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an effective job of doing.
The second question is, can we provide better
security?
Well, you can provide better security if you're
keeping those conservative speakers in an enclosed area,
i.e. an auditorium, where you can check
people coming in, check people coming out, making
sure there are no terrorists or sniper shots
that could be done from advantaged buildings.
But that's not the case.

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That was never Charlie's style.
And that's really not the style of conservative
America.
They want to be able to express their
opinions where people can be heard.
And that's on the streets, on the sidewalks.
And as long as that takes place, it's
very hard to continue to provide additional security
measures.
So I think you're going to see an
increase in this.
I think you're going to see an increase
in conservative voices being heard.

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And until we, from the intelligence community and
a law enforcement standpoint, pinpoint the source of
all this and deal with its leadership and
bring it to justice, it's going to get
worse, not better.
That baffling to me is how Charlie Kirk
was one of the most guarded people in
America.

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I mean, he had all kinds of security
measures.
How could they have missed this?
It's like, wow, this seems like a no
brainer, this one.
Well, they did talk about most of these
talk show guys, especially on Fox, they discussed
this in great detail.

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And the final result was that you can,
you know, he had a contingent of pros
and there were some campus police involved, but
they didn't.
They all concluded it wasn't at the level
of the Secret Service where they would do
the checks of the buildings and have, you

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know, counter snipers because Charlie didn't have that.
And it was just all personal protection for
that, you know, being, you know, the entourage
type protection for, for, for close in assaults.
No one ever, you know, considered a shot
from.
Well, that's, that's what I mean.
It's like, if you're in the business of

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securing somebody who's getting constant death threats and
like, oh, we didn't think of that.
Well, I'm not going to argue about that.
But at the same time, the irony to
this is that maybe they do think about
that, but in Orem, Utah, Lily White, super
conservative, no crime area of the country, probably

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Mac to the max, which is the perfect
location, perfect location.
That's my point.
You're making it for me.
That's my point.
Perfect location.
It is the perfect location, but it's also
the perfect place for you to drop your
guard.
Yes, that's what I mean.
Unprofessional.
Well, I don't know if, yeah, well, it's

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natural.
Maybe it's unprofessional if you're completely paranoid, but
he should have done it inside in that
regard if that was the case.
But yeah, yeah.
And the guy's on the loose.
Anyway, this is the last clip.
And when we talk about accountability here, who
do you think authorities are going to look
at to figure out what were the events

(28:17):
that led up to something like this?
Well, I think you've got a number of
factors to look at.
First of all, a good old adage from
a law enforcement standpoint, where's the money?
Go to the money drill, follow the money,
follow the paper.
Yes.
And so who's financing these?
Who's financing the ability for this to transpire?
You know, it's not cheap for long range
drivers.
It's not cheap to plan the logistics and
these kind of things.
So find out where the funding sources are

(28:39):
coming from.
Second of all, find out what the players
are.
You're not going to get somebody just fresh
off the street to do this.
This took a professional, somebody who knew what
he was doing and who knew how to
handle the accuracy of that fire weapon.
So those are the kind of issues that
we're going to have to look for.
Find out who is in the process of
organizing and already has been organized for that

(29:00):
matter.
And by being already organized, they're using their
resources to try to counter conservative message, to
try to bring forth a revolution, shall we
say, of liberal liberalism and liberal ideas.
Those are the ones you want to target
and investigate.
You'll find your answers when you go there.
No, he makes a very good point.
A revolution of sorts.
Yes.

(29:21):
Yes.
Seems right.
Seems right to follow the money and bust
it up.
That's the simplest solution.
Yeah.
And I think we know where half the
money is coming from.
Where?
Soros.
Open Soros.
I'm with Glenn Beck on this one.

(29:43):
The Open Society Foundation, because Soros is practically
dead himself.
Well, yeah, but this foundation is that he
peopled it with, you know, he knew how
to how to staff an office.
Let's just play this Kirk Report NPR kicker.
This is from NPR.
Hold on a second.
Conservative activist and Turning Point USA co-founder

(30:05):
Charlie Kirk has died, shot at a college
campus in Utah.
As NPR Steven Fowler reports, the 31-year
-old helped usher in an age of in
-your-face conservative politics that resonated with young
voters, especially young men.
Charlie Kirk was well known as an energizing
speaker and organizer, getting young conservatives registered to

(30:25):
vote and ultimately activating a key demographic for
a party that has struggled with young people.
At 18, he co-founded Turning Point USA
as a college campus free speech organization.
I had the crazy and wild idea, I
want to try to start a youth organization
to try and save Western civilization.
It evolved into an empire with annual summits,

(30:47):
faith leader outreach and successful media platforms.
Kirk was speaking at Utah Valley University at
what was supposed to be the start of
a 15-campus American comeback tour when he
was shot.
Steven Fowler, NPR News.
Kirk was shot as he was taking questions
from the audience about gun violence in the
United States.
Wow.

(31:09):
The number of NPR clips that I have
where they finish off, usually cut them short
before the guy says, he signs off with
I'm so-and-so with NPR, which the
reporter did.
It is unbelievably rare that then all of
a sudden the host kicks in an extra
little tidbit.
That one is not rare for NPR.

(31:30):
They are just.
No, it's very rare for NPR to, I
mean, that's their attitude.
But the kick in the tidbit at the
end when it's not in the main report
is fairly rare.
Believe me, because this is one of my
main things I clip from.
And when I heard that, what was the
point?
Just to put a little gun, little gun
action in there, a little anti-gun stuff.

(31:52):
I just thought it was, I thought it
was chicken shit.
Bad, you know, just bad, bad form.
It was a lie.
It was not true.
It was bad form.
And also notice how they say he has
died.
Not he was killed, he was murdered, he
was assassinated.
He has died.
It's very subtle, but that makes a difference.

(32:14):
Yeah, no, you're right.
That's a good catch.
And this is NPR.
This is the, you know, they just don't
know.
And I think the media somewhat, especially these
guys, the public media is somewhat beside itself
because it's doesn't know what to how to
handle this because it's like they know they're

(32:35):
the bad guys.
Do they?
Do they?
Do they really know?
They think there's some when this only now,
I mean, something like this happens.
I don't think they generally know they're the
bad guys.
But I think when something like this happens,
it kind of reminds them that they might
be the bad guys.
And so they it's interesting to watch them

(32:56):
because they position things differently than they normally
do.
Now, do you consider Charlie Kirk's turning point
to be a political organization or something else?
Well, Charlie, the way I see this, Charlie
Kirk is one of those rare people that
that had a genuine calling during college quits.

(33:19):
I mean, Bill Gates is the same kind
of guy.
Wow.
I really think so, because I'm not the
current Bill Gates after he got pied in
the face and it changed his personality.
But but the original Bill Gates, he just
saw something.
He had a vision, quit Harvard to start
a software company and became the world's richest

(33:39):
man for a long period of time.
And Charlie Kirk was the same kind of
guy.
I mean, for an 18 year old or
to develop an operation that resulted in him
having private planes and and 850 branches and
around the around the country of his of
Turning Point USA and a big headquarters and

(34:02):
a well or organized structure.
This business was highly structured.
And for him himself to become one of
the top and the only way to describe
it, I was thinking about this a few
shows ago.
About people like Charlie Kirk, who which is
not easy to do, but he's genuinely a

(34:23):
polemicist and people should kind of look that
up and know what that is.
And a polemicist is a type of debater
that that is designed to always win the
arguments and probably could argue from both sides.
And it's a skill set that is I've
only seen a few people capable of.
Gore Vidal was one of the great polemicists

(34:45):
on the left and Christopher Hitchens was a
good one.
There's others out there that come and go
and they've been here and there.
A William F.
Buckley, probably even though he was kind of
a show off because he was more interested
in expressing his vocabulary and showing it off.

(35:06):
But Kirk was one of the best.
And he and he had developed it, I
think, largely through trial and error by doing
a lot of these these events with the
students for the last 10 years.
And he who knows what his future was,
but it was not going to be minor.
And he was this whole thing.

(35:29):
If it was caused by a trans, a
trans issue, that's kind of a like there
should have been better reasons to shoot him.
But that wasn't my question.
What was your question?
I lost track of it.
You clearly.
Do you consider Turning Point USA to be

(35:51):
a political organ?
Of course I do.
Have you ever seen a rally of Charlie,
Charlie Kirk?
I've watched this stuff on video.
But he wasn't there like just shilling for
Republicans or the conservative party.
But he wasn't shilling for anybody.
He was lecturing people, lecturing them on what?
On truth.

(36:12):
No, he was lecturing.
Well, there's that element.
But he was lecturing them on on.
Countering liberal ideas that are that are put
to them, their basis for thinking the way
they do and countering it in a very
effective way by by confronting it and having

(36:35):
public debates.
Right.
So cultural, cultural, because that's what he talked
about.
All his answers were about cultural issues that
he disagreed with.
And as far as I can tell, what
that turned into when Trump came along was
here's the guy you want to vote for.

(36:56):
But I'm pretty sure that this was a
faith organization.
Well, you can say that, but the fact
that the Trump administration and the Trump people
themselves say if it wasn't for Charlie Kirk,
they wouldn't have gotten the youth vote.
And Charlie Kirk was a big part of
their campaign.
Yes.
But that seems political to me.
But that's not what the organization was.

(37:18):
I'm not I'm not disagreeing.
No, you asked me if what you asked
me and I answered what I answered.
OK, and I know you like to see
it as just purely a church type of
thing.
I don't see that.
No, not a church type of thing.
Although the outreach they had was to faith
leaders everywhere.
That's really what they did.
And yes.
They also tried to install people everywhere in

(37:41):
politics that had the same message, the same
meaning, the same belief, for sure, which I
think was a very good idea.
But to call this purely political?
No, no, I disagree.
Here's the actress AOC telling us what really

(38:01):
is going on.
What one congresswoman was saying was yelling a
Republican said there was Democrats fault.
Democrats did this.
That's what we heard her say on the
House floor.
I mean, people can finger point all they
want.
Look at the record.
Look at the actions of what we are
doing.
I don't think a single person who has
dedicated their entire career to preventing gun safety

(38:24):
legislation from getting passed in the House has
any right to blame anybody else but themselves
for what is happening.
We have to stop this.
We can stop this.
And why don't we start by by acknowledging
that basic common sense gun safety legislation is
not taking away a gun, is not attacking

(38:45):
the Second Amendment, but it is about ensuring
the safety of our children, of women, of
people across this country to ensure that guns
and firearms do not get in the hands
of people who are going to use them
against human beings.
Period.
Domestic violence is one of the highest indicators
of whether a person is going to to

(39:08):
kill someone else with a gun or not.
There are so many other indicators, you know,
and I think it is so deeply important
that when when a politician tries to blame
words for an action, they need to look
at their action and their record.
We like enough of this.

(39:28):
This is horrific.
This is awful.
And the assassination of Charlie Kirk risks an
uncorking of political chaos and violence that we
cannot risk in America.
We cannot risk it.
It's amazing where she wasn't anywhere talking about
the nut job who stabbed that girl, that
young woman to death on the train.

(39:49):
Yeah, with a pen knife.
One of the highest indicators is not domestic
violence.
It's someone who's been in jail 14 times
and thought voices were talking to him.
From what I understand, the court records show
they arrested that guy for repeatedly misusing 9

(40:10):
-11.
And in January, his January arrest record states
he responded to officers during a welfare check
that he believed someone gave him man-made
material that was inside his body, controlling what
he ate, walked and talked.
Yeah, that's the latest.
That's an indicator of someone who's off the
rails.
That we do need to reopen some of
these insane asylums.

(40:32):
Yes, definitely.
We have one in Kerrville.
Stack it.
Here's Chicago, Illinois Governor JB Pritzker, who, of
course, blames this on Trump.
My sympathy to Charlie Kirk's family and to
Charlie Kirk, who obviously has become a target

(40:52):
for somebody.
I don't know whether it's political violence because
I don't know who did it.
I know they seem to have somebody in
custody.
But I will say that political violence, unfortunately,
has been ratcheting up in this country.
We saw the shootings, the killings in Minnesota.
We've seen other political violence occur in other
states.

(41:13):
And I would just say it's got to
stop.
And I think there are people who are
fomenting it in this country.
I think the president's rhetoric often foments it.
We've seen the January 6th rioters who clearly,
you know, have tripped a new era of

(41:33):
political violence.
Oh, yeah.
OK, this is another one for the list.
Put that guy on the list.
Anyway, in conclusion, this seemed way too professional
to me.
Neck shot from the roof, bolt action sniper
rifle, no trace of the perpetrator.
OK, we have a picture.

(41:53):
Boo hoo.
Now we have transgender anti-fascist markings on
the shell casings, it says.
And so we're told.
I only heard, yes.
But that's my point.
We found the hijacker's passport.
This smells.
This smells of some, not just some transgender
nut job.

(42:14):
No, that doesn't just, no.
Nothing about that feels right.
So anyway, well, the guy could have been
hired.
Yeah.
I mean, the job was follow the money
and follow the money.
Exactly what that guy said.
Yeah, I think following the money is the

(42:35):
only way to go.
And they're going to have to.
They're going to have to.
This and it's.
Yeah.
They got to.
They got to try to follow the money.
This is being orchestrated.
We've noticed this before, but it's worldwide.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it is.
And what you want to do is you
want to take this group of people that

(42:55):
didn't even exist 10 years ago, not the
way it exists today.
And you want to blame it on them.
It's almost like, like most prophecy of I'll
blame it all on the black women.
You know, it's like hype them up and
we'll blame it on them.
That's what it feels like.
It's always a distinct possibility.

(43:16):
Of course, now we have you brought up
the.
The issues of like where Europe is subject
to this.
What's the what is you think is going
on with France?
Oh, well, I know what's going on with
France.
I have two clips.
What's going on with France is they are

(43:38):
sick of of their government talking about sending
them to war against Russia and and taking
that money to arm up the country and
the European Union and not give them the
socialist stuff they want.
And they're 38 hour work week.
That's why they're mad.

(43:59):
France falls.
100,000 people were expected to join the
demonstrations, which aimed to block highways and parts
of France's public infrastructure.
Outgoing interior minister Bruno Retailleau said 80,000
security forces had been deployed across the country.
In Paris, a fire broke out in a
building and several firefighters were sent to the
scene.
Demonstrators voiced frustration after President Macron appointed a

(44:22):
new prime minister on Monday, the fifth since
his second term began in 2022.
Mr. Macron doesn't seem to understand that this
is not just a clash of heads.
We have them.
But that's what politics is.
We want it to be said clearly.
His agenda is against France, against the French,
against the people.
For example, look at the situation in the

(44:44):
hospitals.
They can't cope anymore.
Many people are losing their jobs.
I work in education.
I see teachers losing their jobs, something I've
never witnessed before.
We can't take it anymore.
We are facing a very deep social crisis.
I believe that today there is enormous anger

(45:04):
among the people.
I spoke with a nursery worker who is
furious.
She earns 1,600 euros but pays 800
euros in rent.
She is raising her daughter alone.
I've made some research about what's happening.
To me, I realized that our future is
at stake.
I had to come out to defend my
future, to defend this society and to defend

(45:26):
my homeland.
If it continues like this, I honestly hope
things change before I turn 40.
Is that an AI voiceover that I'm hearing
there?
I can't tell.
This protest was scheduled in July and was
highly anticipated in the country.
The prime minister decided to pull a confidence
vote two days before the demonstration in a
move to reaffirm the French people's trust in

(45:48):
his policies.
The move backfired against him and led to
the fall of the government last Monday.
So the way they start off the report
is like, well, he put in a new
prime minister they don't like.
That's the way it sounded to me.
Who did this report?
This was, uh, I think this was NTD.

(46:08):
Yeah, I think it was.
I don't have it.
I didn't make a note.
I'm sorry.
Let's play part two.
However, the protest itself is dividing the French
people.
The original goal to demonstrate it came from
grassroots movements, much like the yellow vest movement,
demanding lower taxes, but was later claimed by
leftist political figures, which then turned it into
a nationwide blockade led by unions and leftist

(46:30):
groups.
The protest where I'm standing at the moment
in Paris is the main protest that has
been organized under the slogan anti-fascism and
anti-racism block, which has little to do
with the original poll to demonstrate.
So while the protest shows a strong challenge
to the government, it also reveals fractures among
the French people.
The president appointed a close ally as his

(46:50):
new prime minister, Sébastien Lecornu, who took office
on Wednesday, facing the same challenge to rein
in France's ballooning debt as his predecessor.
David Vives, NTD News, Paris.
Oh, that's interesting.
So he said, oh, well, the leftists are
doing it, which is their word for Democrats.
But CBC had a short, very clear report

(47:12):
on what the problem is.
Protesters and police clashed in cities across France
today.
Police in Montpellier used water cannons and tear
gas to clear demonstrators.
Protesters, angry about austerity measures, obstructed highways, set

(47:32):
fires and barred access to some schools and
offices.
They're part of a massive online movement called
Block Everything.
Demonstrators say defense policies eat up public funds
that should be used for hospitals and schools.
Nearly 300 protesters were arrested.
Ah, Block Everything.
Where have I heard this before?

(47:55):
The French are kick-ass when it comes
to protests.
I mean, I still remember some years ago
during this show era where the farmers were
perked about something and they backed up these
giant combines and had these things that would
spray manure onto the...
Well, they've been doing that with the farmer

(48:16):
protests.
Yeah, they spray manure onto the parliament building
from a distance.
Well, this is quite creative.
This sounds a lot like Blackout the System.
Have you heard of this?
Yeah, which is coming on the 17th, which
I think is going to be a huge
dud.
Oh, no, it'll be nothing.
But nice web page they put together with

(48:37):
absolutely no information about who they are.
We're not asking, we're shutting it down.
The largest economic blackout protest in US history.
Blackoutthesystem.com.
And so they have, so it's speaking out
against injustice, that would be minorities, unity and

(48:59):
the power of the people, that would be
Marxist-Socialist, winning together.
Well, you know what that means.
Why we blackout the system?
We are done funding our own oppression.
We are done being silent while the system
exploits us.
They're funding it?
I didn't realize they were funding it.
Divides us and works against us.
This movement is peaceful, but it's powerful.

(49:21):
We are using the greatest leverage we have,
our unity and economic power.
They say they have no money, but.
To bring the system down to its knees.
No to dictatorship.
No to corporate greed.
No to blind obedience.
No to racism and oppression.
And no to fascism.
They forgot, no to Trump.
And no to everything America stands for.

(49:45):
But there's no, there's no, here, here's what
you should do.
Adjust your W-4.
Check your taxes.
Every paycheck they take more than you owe,
then give it back without interest at tax
time.
Adjust your W-4 so you keep more
in your pocket now, instead of letting them
use it all year.
Okay.
Starve the corporations.

(50:06):
Remove and withdraw your money from the banks.
Banks lend your money to corporations.
What do they want?
I'm looking at this website.
By the way, it's got a lot of
JavaScript.
These things are flying around.
It's pretty well done.
I told you.
Banks lend your money to corporations that purchase
politicians who make policies against the people.

(50:28):
Regional credit unions are a better option.
Well, we've been for that.
Cancel subscriptions.
Anything unnecessary, cut it.
Put your money back in your pockets and
drive a wedge between your resources and their
products.
And spread the word.
Shit.
This is from the, this, I mean, why
didn't they just put it on their Socialist

(50:49):
Party of America?
Oh, this is definitely a Socialist Party thing.
But then, but there's nothing.
And become a partner.
Become a partner.
There's no, no donation place, no donation thing,
which is odd.
Usually, you know.
Yeah.
Act blue on something there.
So this is something out of the blackout

(51:10):
pledge.
Okay.
But yeah, so that's a move.
And I'd say that's a global socialist move.
Well, yeah, it's global because right at the
bottom it says 50 states participating, 28 countries.
Oh, there you go.
Supporting.
So what's, what's, what 28 countries?
What are we talking about here?
Why?
Well, they have a handyman.
10 million engagement activity, 100% committed team,

(51:33):
which we don't even see.
Who is this team?
We don't know.
We don't know who the team is.
Isn't there a link to the team?
Oh, link to the wall of stolen wages.
Welcome to the wall of stolen wages.
We're stealing.
Oh, okay.
We're somehow, they're being stolen.
I get it.
A lot of unhappy people.

(51:54):
No, these people aren't unhappy.
They're happy.
I don't know if they're happy.
I really don't.
I think they're happy.
I don't think so.
Yeah.
All right.
So I think you have a couple of
clips as well.
This, uh, Israel targeting Hamas in Qatar.
Demanding an end to Israel's war in Gaza,

(52:15):
demonstrators shouted angrily at Israeli prime minister, Benjamin
Netanyahu, as his vehicle made its way through
a crowd north of Tel Aviv.
Netanyahu making clear today, nothing has changed in
his mind after yesterday's stunning Israeli strike into
Qatar, targeting the leadership of Hamas.
And I say to Qatar and all nations

(52:36):
who harbor terrorism.
What?
Targeting and missing.
In his mind after yesterday's stunning Israeli strike
into Qatar, targeting the leadership of Hamas.
And I say to Qatar and all nations
who harbor terrorists, you either expel them or
you bring them to justice.
Because if you don't, we will.

(53:02):
Yesterday's strike, which caught even the United States
off guard, left a number of Hamas members
dead, though Hamas says its leadership survived.
But the attack has upended attempts at a
ceasefire to the nearly two-year war and
its reinvigorated pushback against Israel.
Europe needs to do more.

(53:24):
In Strasbourg, France today, European Union Commission President
Ursula von der Leyen.
We will propose sanctions on the extremist ministers
and on violent settlers.
And we will also propose a partial suspension
of the Association Agreement on Trade-Related Matters.
Straight condemnation for the strike into Qatar, meanwhile,

(53:47):
continued on a number of other fronts, meanwhile,
in Saudi Arabia.
We reject and condemn Israel's aggressions on Qatar,
said Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, adding,
this attack requires an Arab, Islamic, and international
response to confront such aggression.

(54:07):
We stand with Qatar.
Very.
They don't even like Qatar.
What's that?
The Saudis don't even like Qatar.
Do we know that Trump didn't give the
go-ahead behind the scenes?
Well, he said he didn't.
Implausible deniability.
It has nothing to do with this.

(54:28):
I didn't know.
I don't know what this guy's...
This guy's nuts.
Well, President Trump said he did not know
about it until briefly before and then told
the Qataris that it was coming.
That's the official word.
From boots on the ground in Doha, local
concern about this was about sovereignty, not about

(54:51):
Hamas leadership.
Nobody here cares or likes Hamas.
Qatar just agreed...
This is boots on the ground.
Just agreed to try to mediate knowing Hamas
is insincere in all talks.
And also note that not one country has
suggested pulling out of the Abram Accords with
Israel since the war began, nor do they
care about the attack on Iran.

(55:11):
So this is, again, from Qatar.
Separately, a significant number of those reported killed
in Gaza are Hamas fighters and family members.
In general, there's indifference towards death outside the
Western world.
That's probably true.
Maybe they look at death differently than we
do.
We see it as kind of crappy.

(55:35):
Well, you know, there wasn't a great...
The reason Trump has to stay completely beyond
plausible deniability position, he needs to be in
that position because the United States is the
one who set up Qatar to be the
Doha, you know, where you have...
Hamas can be there so we can do

(55:55):
negotiations with them and they can be safe.
Well, right.
It looks pretty bad.
But they haven't done any negotiations.
So let's bomb the hell out of them
or kill them while they're there.
This whole thing is very suspect.
Oh, so you think Trump knew?
I do think he knew.
Because I stick with the thing that we're
running Israel.

(56:16):
They're not running us.
No, I don't think they're running.
If anything, I think they...
This is why I think they may have
gone too far.
I just don't see it.
Let's see.
This France 24 report has, I think, something
about it.
A show of solidarity from regional leaders, the
president of the United Arab Emirates and Crown

(56:37):
Prince of Jordan are in Qatar Wednesday, a
day after Israel's attack on its soil.
The Qatari prime minister said Tuesday it would
not be put off in its efforts to
mediate a deal between Israel and Hamas, but
didn't let Israel off the hook.
Mediation in Qatari diplomacy is part of our
identity and will continue.
Nothing will deter us from carrying out this

(56:59):
role.
Does the world need a clearer message than
this?
Who is closing the door to peace?
Does the international community need a louder signal?
Who is the bully in this region?
Hamas, who were discussing the Trump administration's latest
ceasefire proposal in Doha when they were struck,
said their targeting showed Israel didn't want to
reach an agreement.
Meanwhile, Israeli hostage family members expressed alarm that

(57:20):
the attack sabotaged any hope for those still
being held by Hamas.
President Trump, meanwhile, attempted damage control, issuing a
rare rebuke to Israel and calling Qatar, which
is home to the largest American military base
in the Middle East, a strong US ally
and friend.
Arab countries are increasingly concerned about Israel's belligerence,
and the attack risks undermining US credibility in

(57:42):
the region.
I think this is the final nail in
the coffin of any kind of negotiations that
is taking place between Israel and Hamas, as
far as it is mediated by Qatar.
Qatar has always been the diplomatic channel of
these negotiations, and it does not intend to
pay a direct price by playing this role.

(58:03):
And that is obviously the kind of consequence
that also Netanyahu and the Israeli government probably
expect to happen.
On Wednesday, Israel warned that its enemies were
not safe anywhere and that if it hadn't
succeeded in killing Hamas leaders this time, it
would the next.
Yeah, it just seems like it's our negotiators,
it's our idea, it's our proposal.

(58:24):
We've got a base there.
And then Trump's going to go, yeah, OK,
go ahead, kill him.
And then they don't kill him.
Well, that's the thing that probably irked Trump.
And Trump didn't go ahead and say that.
Like I said, he's in a position of
plausible deniability.
No, he didn't.
No, he's got nothing to do with it.
Trump is a politician at this point in

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his life.
And this sort of thing can go on.
So what was the end game?
What was the benefit?
Well, we've given up.
The end game is that we've given up
on dealing with Hamas.
Hamas has to be completely wiped out.
It's just an impasse.
They won't negotiate with good faith.
And the negotiations they do, and they lie.

(59:10):
They're just a terrible group of people.
And the Palestinians support them.
There's nothing.
They're just going to have to let this
play out.
I don't know.
It's beyond me.
I think it's beyond Trump.
It's beyond everybody.
Well, for sure, they kept Iran out of
it.
And maybe that'll, maybe that'll help.

(59:31):
Yeah, maybe.
You got anything?
I did.
I think I may have.
Yes, you have ICC rebuke.
Oh, well, this is different.
This is from, this is actually a clip.
This started a while ago.
The ICC is going after Netanyahu, which is
maybe something here that, that applies.

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Let's play this clip.
Israel released footage on Wednesday of terrorists fleeing
as an Israeli tank approached them in the
Gaza Strip.
Many of them attempted to take cover in
this tunnel entrance, but Israel struck the area
before one of the terrorists was able to
make it inside.
Israel also released an infographic showing where they
established security zones along the Gaza Strip border.

(01:00:14):
And after Operation Gideon's chariots, they increased that
security zone.
And Israel now controls about 75% of
the Gaza Strip.
A spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces said
that Operation Gideon's chariots enabled them to increase
operations in Gaza's largest city.
We will deepen the damage to Hamas in

(01:00:35):
Gaza City.
A stronghold of governmental and military terror for
the terrorist organization.
We are not waiting.
We have begun the preliminary actions.
And already now, IDF troops are holding the
outskirts of Gaza City.
On Wednesday, Israel said they were calling up
60,000 reservists to report for duty and
that they were extending current orders for 20

(01:00:57):
,000 reservists who were already deployed.
Meanwhile, the Israeli government gave the final approval
for plans to begin construction of a new
settlement east of Jerusalem.
Thousands of homes are expected to be built
in an area that would nearly divide the
West Bank into two parts.
An Israeli official said the new settlement would,

(01:01:17):
quote, bury the idea of a Palestinian state.
A representative of the Bedouin community in the
West Bank said they received demolition orders for
buildings in the area about a week ago.
And he called on the international community to
prevent Israel from establishing the new settlement in
the West Bank.
And in another development, the U.S. Department
of State issued further sanctions against two judges

(01:01:40):
and two deputy prosecutors belonging to the International
Criminal Court, which is supported by the United
Nations.
What a waste of money that thing is.
No one cares.
No one adheres to your stupid court.
International Criminal Court.
Well, they're always hoping it takes hold.
How long has that been?

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30 years they've been trying for.
Forever.
No one cares.
There's a part.
There's a second part to this.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio said, quote, The
court is a national security threat that has
been an instrument for lawfare against the United
States and for our close ally Israel.
The decision comes after the court issued arrest
warrants for Israeli officials over the war in

(01:02:24):
the Gaza Strip.
And Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in a
post on X praised the U.S. decision
and accused the court of conducting a smear
campaign against Israel and the Israel Defense Forces.
On the other hand, the United Nations said
the sanctions, quote, undermine the foundation of international
justice.
Oh, international justice.

(01:02:46):
Yeah, there's international justice.
The international part is the problem.
Yeah, there's no international nothing.
It's all men, everyone for himself at the
end of the day.
So I've been.
That's not this.
That's not the plan.
No, that's not the plan.
But the New World Order is not coming
to fruition the way they ever wanted it

(01:03:07):
to.
They've been trying that all my life, too.
Oh, the New World Order.
Here comes.
Yes.
And the Antichrist is arising.
Yes.
So I've been following this story in Germany,
and there was really no no clips or
anything on it.
This is about the sudden deaths of many

(01:03:28):
of the AFD alternative for Deutschland.
Oh, yes.
This is a story.
Then there's got to be some clips on
this.
Yes.
All of a sudden.
All of a sudden.
Well, all of a sudden is not entirely
true.
But yeah.
OK.
Well, all of a sudden, kind of.
But, you know, over time, they've been taking
out these AFD guys.

(01:03:49):
Yeah.
Well, one after the other.
What do you think?
Well, let's listen to the Euronews verify, verifies
without evidence, verify.
As many as six candidates for the far
right alternative for Germany party have died in
recent weeks ahead of local elections in the
state of North Rhine-Westphalia, and it's prompted
unfounded suspicions on social media.

(01:04:12):
On September the 14th, district, municipal and city
councils, as well as some mayors will be
elected in the western German state, with a
reported 20,000 candidates running for office.
Police have ruled out any foul play in
relation to these six deaths.
The causes range from serious pre-existing conditions
to suicide.

(01:04:33):
A senior official from Alternative for Germany itself
has also dismissed speculation that these deaths were
in any way intentional.
But there have also been clear attempts to
sow conspiracy and suspicions.
The party's leader, Alice Vidal, shared a post
on X where another user describes the death
toll as statistically almost impossible.

(01:04:55):
This theory has been amplified on social media
and by controversial public figures.
Here, British far right activist Tommy Robinson asks,
what's going on?
And the billionaire owner of X, Elon Musk,
comments, weird.
Conservative publications have also misleadingly described the deaths
as mysterious or unexpected.

(01:05:18):
The North Rhine-Westphalia Ministry of the Interior
has said that candidates from other parties have
also died in the electoral campaign, but that
these deaths have not sparked the same unfounded
suspicions.
The deaths do mean that ballot papers issued
in certain constituencies, as well as some mail
-in votes, are now invalid.
It also means the party will have to
nominate new candidates to replace the deceased.

(01:05:41):
So my takeaway from this in the most
vaccinated country in Europe, pretty much locked down
like dogs forever, 20,000 candidates that, you
know, this is it's not like the the
national parliament elections here.
This is this is all small elections all

(01:06:02):
over the country.
I mean, the suicide one I'd like to
know more about.
But, you know, 20,000 people die.
I'm a little less suspicious than I was.
Oh, so you think it's just a bunch
of vax deaths?
Yeah, probably.
And, you know, it's clickbait.

(01:06:23):
It's good clickbait.
Elon Musk, weird, weird, weird.
Stay on X, stay on X.
It's weird.
Yes, it's very, very weird.
And we also got a this was this
was kind of fun.
This is about the GPS jamming of Queen
Ursula's jet, which I think we pretty much
pulled apart for you on the last show.

(01:06:44):
They do the same here, but yeah, they
got to leave some doubt in the verify
segment from Euronews reports that European Commission President
Ursula von der Leyen's plane was targeted by
Russian GPS jamming as she traveled to the
Bulgarian city of Plovdiv on the 31st of
August have sparked major speculation.
The Financial Times first broke the story on

(01:07:05):
the 1st of September, reporting that von der
Leyen's plane circled Plovdiv airport for an hour
using paper maps to land.
We have received information from the Bulgarian authorities
that they suspect that this was due to
blatant interference by Russia.
But days later, on the 4th of September,

(01:07:26):
Bulgaria's Deputy Prime Minister Gorzhan Karazhov denied that
the government has submitted any information about Russian
interference to the European Commission.
In an apparent attempt to backpedal on those
initial claims, the country's Prime Minister Rozhan Zelenskov
said there was no evidence of prolonged interference
or jamming of the GPS signal around Plovdiv

(01:07:47):
airport.
The Prime Minister later said that although no
jamming had been detected by ground instruments, this
didn't exclude the possibility of on-board devices
detecting jamming.
Analysts from Flightradar24 told Euroverify that according to
their data, the aircraft maintained a good GPS
signal throughout the flight.
Their data also contradicted the Financial Times' assertion

(01:08:08):
that the aircraft circled Plovdiv for an hour,
as flight records reveal that the aircraft landed
only a few minutes late.
Although there are a plethora of doubts surrounding
this incident, Moscow has intensified GPS jamming tactics
in planes and ships since it launched its
full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022,
primarily targeting the area surrounding the Baltic Sea.

(01:08:31):
Right, so I play these back-to-back
because if I don't believe one, why would
I believe the other?
What horse crap that is, Verify.
Well, you know, there's no evidence and the
GPS data shows through ADS-B that there's
no evidence but, you know, Russia's been doing
this.
They want war so bad.
Please give us war.

(01:08:51):
Whatever you do.
Well, it'll straighten out the French economy.
Oh, they need it for that very reason.
Germany has, everything's kaput, to speak in a
good German word.
Kaput.
Es ist kaput.
They've got no energy, they've got no industry,
they've turned the car factories into building tanks

(01:09:13):
and planes and other stuff.
They need this war, and which of course
puts this Russian drones in Poland into a
suspicious light.
And Nathan, we have more geopolitical news this
morning related to the war in Ukraine.
Poland has shot down drones that crossed into
its territory during a Russian airstrike on Ukraine.
The Polish military calling it an act of

(01:09:35):
aggression and the country's premier is asking NATO
allies for support.
Bloomberg Daybreak Europe anchor Stephen Carroll is in
Brussels and joins us live with the details.
Good morning, Stephen.
Good morning, Karen and Nathan.
Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk says his country's
airspace was violated by a huge number of
Russian drones in the early hours of this
morning.
Airports were closed for several hours while citizens

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in the east were told to stay indoors.
It's the first time the NATO member has
shot down military aircraft that have strayed into
its airspace since the start of Russia's full
-scale invasion of Ukraine.
The EU's foreign affairs chief Kaya Kalas says
the incursion appears to be intentional.
The Polish Prime Minister has asked NATO to
invoke Article 4 of its treaty, which triggers
consultations on a military response.

(01:10:18):
Oh no.
Article 4?
We're at DEFCON 4.
Oh boy.
What does Queen Ursula have to say?
We have seen a reckless and unprecedented violation
of Poland and Europe's airspace by more than
10 Russian Shaheed drones.
Europe stands in full solidarity with Poland.
Yeah, war!
Woo!

(01:10:39):
We can do it!
Come on, everybody!
We got Article 4.
Article 4.
We're just one away from 5.
One away.
One away.
Which means they'll drag us, our ass, into
the whole thing.
Well, that's what they want, for sure.
I have a drones in Poland clip, too,
to see if there's anything different.
Okay.
Drones in Poland.

(01:11:00):
Russian drones reportedly entered Polish airspace on Wednesday.
Poland says it shot them down with the
backing of military aircraft from its NATO allies.
Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk says it's the
closest the country has been to open conflict
since World War II.
We are most likely dealing with a large
-scale provocation, but at the same time, we

(01:11:22):
are in consultation with our allies.
I am in constant contact with the NATO
Secretary General.
Prime Minister activated Article 4 of NATO's treaty,
under which— Wow, nice one.
He activated Article 4.
Is there a button that he has to
push?
Hello, everybody.
I am Mark Grzyta.
I'm activating Article 4.

(01:11:43):
Contact with the NATO Secretary General.
Prime Minister activated Article 4 of NATO's treaty,
under which Alliance members can demand consultation with
their allies.
The head of NATO says the organization is
still assessing the situation.
A full assessment of the incident is ongoing.
What is clear is that the violation last

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night is not an isolated incident.
Russia, meanwhile, denies the allegations.
What?
It's not isolated because of that other drone
that the Ukrainians actually said was not from
Russia.
Remember that?
That was just two weeks ago.
Yeah.
Even the Ukrainians say, no, it wasn't from
Russia, but it's ongoing.

(01:12:25):
Engage Article 4.
What is clear is that the violation last
night is not an isolated incident.
Russia, meanwhile, denies the allegations.
The country's defense ministry issued a statement saying
its drones carried out a major attack on
military facilities in Western Ukraine, adding that it
had not planned to hit any targets in

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Poland.
But Poland's Minister of Foreign Affairs says he
doesn't believe that, warning of possible escalation.
Even though NATO is not at war, Russian
aggression strikes beyond Ukraine.
The United Nations is now warning of a
possible wider conflict.
The regional impact and real risk of expansion
of this devastating conflict.

(01:13:08):
The incident comes just a few days after
a meeting between President Trump and the president
of Poland.
Some U.S. troops are stationed in Poland.
During the meeting, Trump was asked if the
soldiers are scheduled to stay there.
If anything, we'll put more there if they
want, but they've long wanted to have a
larger presence.
We have some countries that have more, not

(01:13:29):
too many, but no, they'll be staying in
Poland.
We're very much aligned with Poland.
The report goes on, but wasn't Trump the
guy who wanted to get all these guys
out of the world?
You know, we had these bases everywhere.
What happened to that?
Well, he's selling all the stuff now.
That's what he's doing.

(01:13:50):
I have, I have a couple of clips
from our guy analyzing this.
Oh, your buddy.
Yes, right.
Canadian guy.
The Canadian Andrew Soules.
What do you make of Russia's actions?
Do you believe that this was intentional or,
as Belarus says, it was all an accident?
It could be a combination of the two,
really.

(01:14:10):
I think we have to look at what's
happening strategically.
The Russians are mounting the beginning of their
fall offensive.
They have decided that they will not be
able to reach a compromise deal or a
deal that is in their favor with the
Ukrainians through any kind of negotiation at present.
So they are now on a war path.
They are now increasing their war effort against

(01:14:32):
Ukraine, both on the ground and in the
air.
And this was a continual range of large
scale attacks against Ukraine.
Now, the question is, were these missiles, which
sometimes do fly close to the Polish border
in order to hit Western Ukraine, was this,
as the Belarusians are saying, a jamming exercise?
Because they would be, the Ukrainians would be

(01:14:53):
jamming them.
So that's a possibility.
We'll have to see what the investigations are.
The other one, you know, if we want
to speculate, is the Russians are continuing to
signal to NATO and Western countries that, you
know, don't think about putting boots on the
ground in Ukraine because we're prepared to take
you on.
So that's a more aggressive interpretation.

(01:15:14):
I'm not saying that's what it is, but
it could be to show, look, we're going
to test your air defenses in case one
day we may have to fight you if
you put your boots on the ground, which
we've told you not to do.
So this is, I think, what's going on
here.
We don't know the ground truth yet, but
the investigations hopefully will reveal that.
I find the coincidence of Ursula clearly lying

(01:15:34):
about GPS jamming and now, well, the Ukrainians
might have been.
It's just there's too much jamming talk going
on, you know?
I agree.
And the thing that might also be going
on, because it's doable, is that you can,
if you can figure out what these signals
are that are controlling, take control of the

(01:15:58):
drones and then drive them over to Poland
and drop them in a bunch of fields,
which is basically what happened.
Yeah, well, here's he's talking about Article 4.
We've engaged Article 4.
So tell us more then about NATO's actions
moving forward.
As we mentioned, Poland is on high alert.
They have triggered now Article 4, which means

(01:16:19):
an emergency meeting of NATO allies, which of
course includes the United States, President Trump.
What will happen, do you think, next?
Well, this is all about firming up NATO's
eastern defense of its territories, the eastern flank,
which of course includes Canada.
Canada has the brigade in Latvia, for example,

(01:16:42):
very close to all of this.
So this means that NATO is taking now
whatever steps are necessary to beef up its
air defenses and its ground defenses as well.
But really, now we're talking air defense systems
in case there are any further incursions.
So it's a bit of a ramp up.
This is not a panic.
But this is Article 4, which has now

(01:17:02):
been activated, is a consultative mechanism.
It's been activated a few times before.
It is a logical stepstone, part of a
controlled escalation or counter-escalation, if you will.
And so we'll have to wait and see.
But everything is under control right now.
It's interesting.
It's tense, but under control.
I feel so much more comfortable when he

(01:17:23):
says that.
Everything's OK.
Article 4 is just a Zoom meeting, people.
Don't get your panties in a bunch.
We're just going to have a little call.
That's basically what he said.
But he also said it's been implemented before.
I'd like to know when.
Oh, that's a good question.
I mean, that's the first thing I'd ask.
Oh, it's been implemented before.
Under what circumstances?

(01:17:44):
I think in 2022.
What do you think?
No, I'm pretty sure 2022, Article 4.
I'm pretty sure just before.
Ask your friend, your buddy there, your heiress.
She would probably know if you asked her.
I would say the question would be, how
many times has Article 4 been implemented by
NATO and when?

(01:18:08):
How many times has Article 4 been implemented?
Oh, voice connection lost.
Hold on.
OK.
How many times has Article 4 been implemented
by NATO and when?
NATO's Article 4 has been invoked eight times
total since 1949.
Here's the rundown.
First, in 2003, over Iraq security concerns, then

(01:18:31):
Turkey in 2003 for Cyprus, again, Turkey in
2006 amid Israeli-Lebanon tensions, Romania and others
in 2008 after Russia's Georgia invasion, Poland in
2014 during Ukraine's crisis, multiple allies like Bulgaria,
Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Slovakia in February

(01:18:54):
2022 post-Russia's Ukraine attack, and most recently,
Poland yesterday, September 10th, 2025, over those Russian
drone incursions.
Each one's basically a heads up for talks,
not full-on action.
What's with the breathiness?
Boy, that was a good report.
I'm going to give her a 10.

(01:19:15):
You can moan and grunt about her breathiness,
but I ain't giving her 10 points for
that.
That took care of it.
But she didn't say 2022.
Did she?
I didn't hear her say it.
Yes, she did.
Oh, she did?
I mean, she did get covered.
It was great.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
I'm impressed.
Oh, no.

(01:19:36):
Here's the final clip.
So the question is, of course, what are
the options if it was intentional?
If it is determined through an investigation that
this was intentional, then what does NATO do?
And actually, Andrew, can that be determined?
I'm not an expert on these systems and

(01:19:57):
how they look at their guidance systems, but
they have the pieces in Poland.
So the experts will look at it and
they will make some kind of determination.
There's also radar, the flight plans.
You can say these systems, the Russians are
saying systems were not long range, they couldn't
have reached Ukrainian territory, they had to be
like the way they were going, so they

(01:20:18):
were deflected.
I mean, that's an argument, right?
So the experts will look at flight plans.
They will look at the actual substance of
the drones that they have found in Poland
and try to put together a piece.
So I will not stay away from the
technical analysis, but on a military, political, military
point of view, NATO will take this as
a need to strengthen its defenses and remain

(01:20:40):
on guard.
But this is.
Huh?
Strengthen its defenses by spending money.
Oh, well, of course, this is that's what
it's always about.
So I will not stay away from the
technical analysis, but on a military, political, military
point of view, NATO will take this as
a need to strengthen its defenses and remain

(01:21:01):
on guard.
But this is not to go to war
with Russia, because Russia clearly at this point
for sure is not going to war with
Poland and NATO.
So we're not at that level at all.
But we are playing aggressive because of the
war in Ukraine.
We come back.
This is all about Russia trying to defeat
the Ukrainians in a substantial way to get

(01:21:21):
what they want from Ukraine.
Presumably, I think by 2025, the end of
the year, the Russians are really putting on
the pressure now.
Putin is not serious all about a ceasefire.
And he actually made that point to to
Trump in Alaska.
He wanted a peace settlement first before a
ceasefire.
That's very clear from the Russian position.
Now, what does that mean?

(01:21:41):
That means the Russians want a peace settlement
on terms favorable to their objectives.
And until they get that, Ukrainians are saying
no.
So the Russians are saying, well, then more
war until we can convince you, the Ukrainians,
through military action to come our way.
That's it's a it's a knock them, sock
them war right now to see who prevails.
Knock them, sock them, rock them, sock them

(01:22:03):
robots, everybody.
Yeah.
Well, the significance of Poland is not lost
on me, historically speaking.
You know, when Germany invaded Poland.
Oh, yeah.
That started World War Two, in essence.
Well, of course, what would always be good
is we could have a nice little World
War One assassination of some Duke somewhere.

(01:22:28):
Something they don't need much.
They really don't need much.
And America always enters late into these things.
We weren't there at the beginning of World
War One, World War Two.
No, we were late on both.
Now, in this case, you know, be careful
of the be wary of the military industrial
complex.
Follow that money.

(01:22:49):
Especially with drones, Eric Schmidt.
You know, who's controlling the drone?
Who knows how to control other people's drones?
This whole drone thing.
I think the drone warfare with it, with
the taking control of other people's drones through
espionage, you can find out what their codes
are, I'm sure.

(01:23:10):
You could get in.
I think that's a bigger threat than the
drones themselves.
Yes.
Well, the whole drone thing is just no
good.
But can you imagine just even a one
of these air shows where you have all
the drones that make this designs in the
sky?
They're pretty spectacular.

(01:23:31):
And taking control of that and then driving
those, you know, 10 or 20 or 30
,000 drones into the crowd.
Yes, this is what you're imagining.
And also what is never really well explained
is these drones.
I mean, what size are they?

(01:23:51):
Are these like reaper drones?
Yes.
Well, they said they were, they said there
was Shaheeds in the report.
That's Iranian drone?
Yes.
An Iranian drone.
So let me see what that looks like.
That's what it said.
Right.
Well, of course.
We have to emphasize.
Oh, that's one of those Delta Wing deals.

(01:24:15):
That's the Shaheed drone.
Oh, that's the good looking one.
It's a very handsome drone.
Handsome drone.
And the other report I heard about these
drones was that they don't know that they
were armed.
They said they may have not been armed,
which would lead credence to the analysis that
the Russians were just testing them, which leads
credence to the Russians did it on purpose

(01:24:36):
just to test the air defenses.
That's a possibility.
Man, what kind of world war do you
have when everyone's just using drones on each
other?
Oh, it's not going to be.
It's going to be every war that there's
been so far.
The big ones, all of them.
Well, they've all been unpleasant.
None of them.
Well, they've all been unpleasant.
But they've all, you know, they've gone from
the, you know, these things that the catapults

(01:24:57):
to crossbows to one different kinds of, you
know, a phalanx designed attacks, horses with, you
know, stirrups.
I mean, every little increase in technology, how
minor it might be, always results in a

(01:25:20):
war to test it out.
Exactly.
There it is.
Yeah.
It's a show.
It's basically an air show.
Well, it takes care of a number of
problems when you get rid of a bunch
of people because you want to do population
control because you're duds.
And the other thing is that it improves
your economy.
It gets everybody on the same page.

(01:25:41):
It creates nationalism, which you need to keep
your society going.
It's a plus.
It's a win win.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Well, isn't it?
I mean, from that's why I say that
facetiously, the win win part, because it's not
a win win at all, but it's a
win win.

(01:26:02):
Aren't all wars basically banker wars?
Whenever we're in financial problems globally, isn't that
when the wars usually start?
Well, I think if you go back in
history, the banker aspect was minor.
I think the bankers benefit.
Modern, not modern history.
I mean, there is a lot of discussion
in the left when I was going to

(01:26:24):
a left wing school at Berkeley.
Yes.
They would discuss the World War One is
a war that we should have not gotten
involved in because it was a banker's war.
It was the bankers of England that got
us to join them to this, to turn
the tide of the war, to pay for
it, to pay for it and help finance

(01:26:47):
it.
We're good at that.
And sure, that element was in play.
Right.
But if you just look at the financial
situation of the world where every every all
money is fake and phony, all of it,
it's all fake.
It's all just made up of derivatives of
debt, debt, debt, debt or credit, no matter
which way, which is whatever side you're on.

(01:27:08):
I mean, how else can everybody get out
of this hole?
We need a war reset.
That's your great reset right there.
Well, that would definitely take care of the
deficit.
Yeah.
Sadly, but yeah.
Hmm.
Well, that's that's a good I'll take stablecoin

(01:27:28):
over war any day.
Yeah, well, it may be part of in
fact, stablecoin may be part of the mechanism
that creates the war.
Very possible, but I'm hopeful it isn't.
Yeah, well, yeah, well, exactly.
Hey, by the way, another thing that is
poorly covered, I can only get one of
my favorite Indian voices to talk about it,

(01:27:51):
is the uprising in Nepal.
Have you seen the mess that's going on
there?
No, not this one.
You got me.
Oh, yes.
Well, she pronounces it funny, but here we
go.
It's chaos in the Himalayas, the tiny Himalayas,
Himalayas, Himalayas, Himalayas, chaos in the Himalayas.
It's chaos in the Himalayas.
The tiny country of Nepal has been gripped

(01:28:13):
by violence.
The parliament was on fire.
Ministers were thrashed on the streets.
The Supreme Court was torched and the capital
of Kathmandu was overrun.
What?
This wasn't just a protest.
It was a total upheaval.
The biggest exit came around noon today.
Prime Minister KP Sharma only announced his resignation.

(01:28:34):
He simply couldn't hang on.
Only had unleashed a crackdown on Monday.
It was the worst in Nepal's recent history.
Nineteen protesters were killed, plus at least 100
were injured.
And today the backlash was evident.
Thousands of protesters hit the streets of Nepal.
Only his own private residence was torched.

(01:28:54):
The prime minister had no choice.
He announced his resignation later in the day.
He said he was quitting to allow a
political solution to the crisis.
Soon afterwards, an army helicopter was seen over
his house.
It ferried only away from the chaos to
where?
Well, nobody knows yet.
But what exactly is the root of this
crisis and how did it escalate so fast?

(01:29:16):
The trigger was a social media ban.
Last week, Kathmandu blocked 26 online platforms, including
Instagram and Facebook.
In response, thousands of young Nepalese hit the
streets.
Now, Nepal, as you would know, is a
young country.
Around 43 percent of the population is below
40 years of age.
So the protesters were largely Gen Z.

(01:29:38):
There you go.
It's I'm looking at the headlines here.
Why Gen Z has taken over the streets
in Nepal.
Yeah, Nepal protests that Gen Z protests in
Nepal urgent or is organic or a deep
state regime change.
Oh, well, there were a lot of professionally
printed signs.

(01:29:58):
So that that to me was like, uh
huh, OK.
But blocking 26 social media sites, that's when
people lose their crap, that's what I keep
telling if you really want to upset Americans,
you know.
Well, that's why Trump couldn't follow through with
banning Tick-Tock.
Yes.
Either kill their dogs.

(01:30:19):
That's how Trump won back in 2019.
He was going to ban Tick-Tock.
Now, almost 10 years later.
No, you can't do that.
You can't do that.
Americans care about two things.
You win the election by saying they're eating
the dog.
That's how you win an election.
You lose if you take away their Tick
-Tock or anything for that matter.

(01:30:40):
Right in time for the brand new Apple
iPhones.
Apple unveiled new iPhones, AirPods and watches today.
The new iPhone 17 has a faster chip,
better scratch resistance, a smoother screen and comes
in new colors and it starts at $799.
The pro version has a new design, a

(01:31:02):
better zoom and a bigger battery.
And it's the most expensive at $1,099.
And the new brand new iPhone, iPhone Air
is a thinner version of the flagship iPhone.
It starts at $999.
The new Apple Watch Series 11 will be
able to alert users to possible high blood
pressure and new AirPods Pro 3 include heart

(01:31:26):
rate sensing and improved noise cancellation.
All the new products will be available September
19th.
Yeah.
Hello.
2015 called Apple.
They want their new iPhones back.
This company, are they are they crazy?
They promised AI for a whole year and
a half.
Oh, that's not coming.
We're not going to do that.

(01:31:46):
Well, it's thin.
It's thin.
Yeah, it's the actual weight of the of
the iPhone.
17 Air is the same weight as the
iPhone 11.
Is that right?
Yeah.
They've just packed more crap and made them
big.
These phones are also huge.
They're huge.
Women can barely hold them in their hands

(01:32:07):
anymore.
Well, the bigger they are, the easier they
are to steal.
Yeah, well, that's that's true.
But things things are going crazy in technology.
This this how crazy are they going?
Well, I'm glad you ask.
I have a two parter about Oracle.
And let's get a business update now with

(01:32:28):
Shroud Pellegrin, beginning with Elon Musk briefly losing
his position as the world's richest person.
That's right, Oliver was brief, but it did
happen on Wednesday.
Tech billionaire Larry Ellison overtook overtook Musk in
the Bloomberg Billionaires Index after Oracle business software
company.
He has a 41 percent stake in saw
its shares surge after better than expected financial

(01:32:51):
forecasts.
At one point, those shares rose more than
40 percent before closing the session up almost
36 percent at over 328 dollars a share.
So that meant the 81 year old shot
up to the top of the rankings for
a bit with a net worth much larger
than the entire GDP of Nigeria this year,

(01:33:11):
for instance.
But this Thursday, Musk, the CEO of Tesla
and SpaceX, took his place back at the
top of the rankings, dominated by the men
that control the largest U.S. tech firms,
as you can see, like Mark Zuckerberg at
Meta and third place Bezos at Amazon or
Larry Page, one of the founders at Google.

(01:33:31):
Worth noting that Ellison and Musk have a
close relationship.
Some saying Ellison was a bit of a
mentor to Musk, sitting on the board at
Tesla for four years and providing financial assistance
for Musk to buy Twitter in 2022.
They also they also share similar politics.
So first of all, the robber barons, a

(01:33:53):
clear list.
There you go.
It's all tech guys.
But but this Oracle's shares surging was mania.
Yeah, it's pretty funny.
This is the second part of the report.
So what was behind this sudden surge in
Oracle's shares and in Ellison's net worth?
Well, an earnings call with analysts that left

(01:34:14):
all of Wall Street slack jawed using words
like blown away, blown away, momentous or in
shock.
The software company said it actually missed its
earnings and revenue targets for the quarter.
But it was its forecast, which really wowed
everyone, specifically on its cloud infrastructure business.
Oracle said it had signed four multibillion dollar

(01:34:36):
contracts in that sector with three different customers
this quarter, one of which were with Chad
GPT maker OpenAI to develop to develop over
four gigawatts of U.S. data center capacity.
It's predicting that its cloud business will boom
over the next four years, generating 18 billion
dollars in revenue this year and reaching, as
you can see there, one hundred and forty

(01:34:57):
four billion dollars in fiscal 2030.
Nevertheless, there is some risk there, notably with
the OpenAI deal.
The startup might be a huge name and
generating a lot of excitement, but it's not
expected to generate any profit before 2029.
Dude, this is Pets.com level.
Miss their earnings.
Miss miss the revenue.

(01:35:19):
Not even close.
It's way beyond Pets.com.
It's not even close to Pets.com, Pets
.com was a short term flash in the
pan.
Interesting idea, which actually probably wasn't a bad
idea.
I could have made money, but this is
ridiculous.
And the thing about pushing it out to
twenty twenty nine is the thing that's a

(01:35:39):
real it's just hilarious.
But all I mean, I can't wait.
And the amount of money they're talking about,
the hundred and forty nine billion.
Yeah, we're talking about, you know, Defense Department
levels.
Yes.
Yeah.
But no product is no.

(01:35:59):
And all that Ellison has ever said is,
well, just imagine that Larry, there's a bunch
of pictures of him floating around.
You know, you guys like eighty two now.
He's he's got a Cheshire cat gray.
It doesn't even look like him anymore.
It's like he's just got.
Well, I did it because Larry's thing back
in the 80s when Bill Gates was the

(01:36:22):
was the richest man in the world.
Yeah, he was always this was known in
the valley.
Kind of if you knew there was in
this this milieu.
Ellison was irked as hell that Bill Gates,
who he thought was an idiot, was the
richest man in the world, and he thought

(01:36:43):
he should be the richest man in the
world.
And he was mocked by a lot of
the locals for being.
He wants to be the richest man in
the world.
That's all he cares about.
He's the he'll never do it because Bill
Gates will always outpace him because Gates is
really smarter.
And he finally made it.
So let's just go back and listen to

(01:37:04):
this is from when was this?
This is from July when we when the
whole Stargate thing was announced.
I think this is it.
Thank you, Mr. President.
One of the most exciting things we're working
on.
You again, using the tools that Sam and
Masa are providing is our cancer vaccine.

(01:37:25):
It's very interesting.
Early diet, it turns out, I'll be quick.
All of our cancers, cancer tumors, little fragments
of those tumors float around in your blood.
So you can do early cancer detection if
you can do it using a you can
do early cancer detection with a blood test

(01:37:46):
and using it from what's that lady?
The blood test from what's her name?
Holmes, Elizabeth Holmes.
And we're using a eye to look at
the blood test.
You can find the cancers that are actually
seriously threatening the person.
Then beyond that, here we go.

(01:38:07):
Once we gene sequence, once we gene sequence
that cancer tumor, you can then vaccinate the
person to design a vaccine for every individual
person to vaccinate them against that cancer.
And you can make that vaccine that MRNA
vaccine.

(01:38:28):
You can make that robotically again using AI
and about 48 hours.
So imagine early cancer detection, the development of
a cancer vaccine for your particular cancer aimed
at you and have have that vaccine available
in 48 hours.
This is the promise of AI and the
promise of the future.
So he's predicting 10 X what he's doing

(01:38:49):
now, missing the revenue and and profit targets
by 2029.
Does that mean we'll have 10 X the
cancer?
Because clearly, if you're doing all this, people
have cancer.
Or is this all just in case?

(01:39:11):
Well, I I'm confused because I don't know
that they're doing this at all.
Well, this was this was this was during
the Stargate launch.
This was what Oracle is doing with their
AI.
Yeah.
But where's the evidence that is actually being
implemented?
None.
There's none of it.
And then he had this little ditty about
Stargate.
This this this is great because we'll not

(01:39:32):
we'll we all have cancer.
We'll also all be hunted down by the
cops.
The police will be on their best behavior
because we we're constantly recording, watching and recording
everything that's going on.
Citizens will be on their best behavior because
we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going
on.
This is like Black Mirror.

(01:39:54):
And it's a good clip.
Impeachable.
The cars, the cars have cameras, you know,
cameras on them.
Everything is cameras.
We have a squad car here somewhere.
Yeah.
But those kind of applications using a if
we can use a and we're using a
to monitor the video.
Yeah.
So if that altercation had occurred, it occurred
in Memphis.

(01:40:15):
The chief of police would be immediately notified.
And where was the monitoring of Epstein's cell
with your AI, Larry?
It's not people that are looking at those
cameras.
It's AI that's looking at the camera.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
This would be like a shooting.
That's going to be immediately.
That's going to be an event.
It's immediately an alarm is going to go
off.
It's going to be and we have a
shooting.

(01:40:35):
We have a shooting.
Have supervision.
And there was every police officer supervised at
all times.
And the supervision will.
And if there's a problem, I will report
the problem and report it to the appropriate
person, whether it's the sheriff or the chief
or whomever we need to take control of

(01:40:56):
the situation.
We have described he's describing a bad Simpsons
episode.
So we'll all be safe, but we'll all
have cancer.
I mean, come on, Larry, you can't have
it both ways.
MIT just came out with their report, the
state of AI in business.
Twenty twenty five.

(01:41:17):
We'll just take MIT.
I mean, you would you trust an MIT
report?
It depends on how they document it, I
probably would.
Executive summary.
Despite 30 to 40 billion dollars in enterprise
investment into Gen AI, which I think I'm
not sure what that means anymore.
This report, Jen, Jen, Jen, OK.

(01:41:39):
Was it generative?
Is it general?
General means generative.
Making songs on Suno.
Is that generally an art making art making
art?
So they spend 30 billion dollars in enterprise
investments and we've got art.
Yeah, well, we got 30 billion dollars with
art for free.

(01:41:59):
Thirty billion dollars.
Come on.
Almost a good deal.
This report uncovers a surprising result in that
95 percent of organizations are getting zero return.
What this was.
We talked about this about three or four
shows ago when I went.
JC, who's the AI expert in the family?
Yes.
Discuss the fact that a major AI company

(01:42:21):
that makes a product that is important to
the AI world.
They did a deep dive into this and
found that one thousand out of one thousand
examples, they could not find any benefits from
using AI.
The outcomes are so starkly divided across both

(01:42:41):
buyers, enterprises, mid-market, small, medium businesses and
builders, startups, vendors, consultancies that we call it
the Gen A divide.
Just five percent of integrated AI pilots were
extracting millions in value, while the vast majority
remain stuck with no measurable P&L impact.

(01:43:04):
That's your balance sheet.
This divide does not seem to be driven
by model quality or regulation, but seems to
be determined by approach.
Tools like chat, GPT and copilot are widely
adopted.
Over 80 percent of organizations have explored or
piloted them and nearly 40 percent report deployment.
But these tools primarily enhance individual productivity, like

(01:43:26):
making art for the no agenda show when
you should be working for your boss.
Or asking error about the about World War
Two.
About what?
About Article 4.
He gave us that information.
It was a benefit to the show.
Productivity right there.
But no P&L performance.
Meanwhile, enterprise grade systems, custom or vendor sold,

(01:43:47):
are being quietly rejected.
60 percent of organizations evaluated such tools, but
only 20 percent reached pilot stage and just
5 percent reached production.
Most failed due to brittle workflows, lack of
contextual learning and misalignment with day to day
operations.
I think that's MIT speak for it sucks.

(01:44:08):
From my interview, surveys and analysts and analysis
of 300 public implementations, four patterns emerged to
define the define the Gen A divide.
Limited disruption.
Only two of eight major sectors show meaningful
structural change.
Enterprise paradox is a good one.
Big firms lead in pilot volume, but lag

(01:44:29):
in scale up.
Investment bias.
Budgets favor visible top line functions over high
ROI back office and implementation advantage.
External partnerships see twice the success rate of
internal builds.
This is a very damning report.
But I'd say what was that paradox phrase?
That's a good one, isn't it?

(01:44:50):
Enterprise paradox.
That's that's a show title.
I know I'm writing it down.
Enterprise paradox.
Yeah, but don't worry about it.
You know, it's making cool art.
Yeah, but by 2029, it'll shake out.
10X.
What's the time, Larry?
It's going to be 10X.

(01:45:10):
It's going to be beautiful.
Larry does it.
Hey, Larry got what he really wanted.
He doesn't.
Now he doesn't care.
Oh, he just wants to be the richest
man briefly.
He just wants to be the richest man
in the world for a moment in time.
Yeah.
And he's achieved that.
And so now we can just forget about
it.

(01:45:31):
Yeah.
Gen AI divide.
Gen AI.
Is that we're going to see that as
the next after Gen Alpha, we have Gen
AI.
Well, it's not it doesn't mean generation.
So no, not yet.
They'll be drinking Gatorade for the electrolytes.
No, he's using it to grow crops, to

(01:45:52):
grow because it has electrolytes.
Exactly.
Yes, I did get a boots on the
ground from Carson, who is Gen Z and
works at a college bookstore that sells textbooks,
including digital books.
A Gen Z customer came in the semester
and said the digital book we sold her
didn't work.

(01:46:14):
It gets better.
She then explained that.
And I've seen this myself.
She then explained that she wasn't able to
log into the website that the book is
hosted on.
Quote, I can't remember my password, she tells
me.
I guess I need to make a new
account.
Now, I've heard this myself.
I asked her if she'd clicked on the
forgotten password button and she stared at me

(01:46:37):
as if I'd just spoken in tongues.
She clicks on the reset password link and
stares at me again like I'm the only
one who can do it.
Just put your email in there so you
can reset your password.
I instruct.
She had absolutely no concept of what I
was explaining, and I had to handhold her
through the entire thing.

(01:46:57):
Being a member of Gen Z myself, I'm
ashamed of my contemporaries for not even being
able to complete a basic task such as
this.
However, I place the blame primarily on the
parents, of course.
Wow.
Can we add that to this?
Don't know how to reset passwords.
What would you call it, though?
What do what what categories go into?
It's not simple enough to it's it's like.

(01:47:21):
But what I what I have heard is
basically a version of stupid.
I have heard this.
Oh, I guess I have to make a
new account.
I've heard this.
It's like not understanding what passwords do or
what they're for.
Or how they function, I am really baffled.
Yeah.
How they function.

(01:47:43):
I mean, for one thing, you know, it's
always assumed that the different generations have a
different relationship with computers, not technology in general,
but just computers.
Yeah.
Phones, phones, phones.
And well, phones, which are computers in your
pocket.

(01:48:04):
Not in yours.
Nope.
It's in the drawer.
And I don't need to be hooked to
a computer 24 seven.
So.
So they have a different relationship because there's
kids.
Oh, they were brought up.
They never knew an era when there was
no Internet.
They never knew an era when there was
no computers.
They never knew this.
They never knew that because they were you

(01:48:24):
know, there was an Internet when they were
born, all this sort of thing.
And so so the Zed's, which I'm going
to now call them because I like it,
Zed, Zed, Gen Zed, Gen Zed.
So there's just Zed's to me.
The Zed's, OK.
The Zed's are brought with what circumstance?

(01:48:46):
Everything was there.
And they were raised with computers, with the
network, with the Internet, with networks, with Wi
-Fi, with with with cell phones, with everything,
every single thing that's available out there.
And and they don't know how to use
it.
I think in this particular case, what's happening
is because of the phones.

(01:49:08):
Once you sign into Apple or Google, that's
it.
You just click sign up.
You don't do a password anymore.
You know, well, you may not know this,
but that's how most phones work these days.
If you're on Android, you sign into your
Google and everything just works.
And if it's a new app or a

(01:49:30):
new website, sign in with Google, click.
And Apple kind of has the same thing,
but not to that extent.
But I think everybody has a Google and
just, oh, just sign in with Google, just
sign in with Google.
They don't understand what's happening in the background
and that all your information is being sucked
up by Google.
Isn't this taught in high school?
Oh, please.
Don't they teach kids in high school how

(01:49:50):
to use a computer?
No.
Yeah.
Well, sure, they do.
How to stick a paperclip in it to
make it blow up in class in your
Chromebook.
That's what they're teaching them.
No, no, there's no there's no computer, no
knowledge like that.
It's called computer literacy.
They used to have a class in some
schools.
You're presuming computer literacy.

(01:50:12):
Have you ever have you ever seen today's
typical middle school teacher?
They're not that literate on computers either.
Doesn't work.
My computer doesn't work.
How many dude named dudes named Ben do
we have who've heard this?
My password doesn't work.
Well, why don't you take the caps lock
off?

(01:50:33):
This happens all the time.
Yeah, that's that is nine tenths of the
problem right there.
Caps lock.
All right.
I got to go back to Ursula, because
did we know this or did we not
know this?
We are on the brink, if not even
at the start of another global health crisis.

(01:50:53):
And as a now a global health crisis.
Now we know that, of course, we're on
the brink of a global health crisis because
people aren't vaccinating anymore.
But this next piece, I'm not so sure
I knew this.
Of another global health crisis.
And as a as as a medical doctor

(01:51:15):
by training.
What did we know this?
Did we know that she's a medical doctor
by training?
Why did why did I not know this?
Well, I didn't know it either.
Let's let me look her up.
What's what's wrong?
Hold on a second.
Error.
Is Ursula von der Leyen a medical doctor
by training?

(01:51:39):
Yes.
Ursula von der Leyen trained as a medical
doctor.
She studied at Hanover Medical School, earned her
MD in 1987 and even worked as an
assistant physician before jumping into politics.
Oh, a nurse assistant physician.
Well, she got an MD, apparently.
Well, I was unaware.
No wonder she was on in the cahoots

(01:52:00):
with Burla and the whole pharma industry.
I'm not saying all doctors are like this,
but wow, I didn't know this.
As a medical doctor by training, I'm appalled
by the disinformation that threatens global progress on
everything from measles to polio.
Vaccines, stop it now.

(01:52:27):
We can't have that.
And this is why today I can announce
that the European Union will head a new
global health resilience initiative.
That's sure to make everyone sick.
Yeah.
Global Health Resilience Initiative.
Oh, please.

(01:52:49):
Well, here is the global health initiative in
the United States from Maha Maha Maha from
Maha RFK Jr. The Make America Healthy Again
Commission released recommendations yesterday to improve children's health.
They're calling it, quote, make our children healthy
again.
OK, marketing mistake.

(01:53:09):
Marketing mistake.
Mark, make our children healthy again.
What's that?
Mocha.
Bojica.
No, make our children healthy.
Get mocha.
It's mocha.
Make our children mocha.
No.
How about what was this official?
Is this something the media dream?

(01:53:29):
Oh, who knows?
The commission is planning to start new studies
and improve collaboration between health agencies.
Some specific things they will work on will
be improving air and water quality, limiting microplastics,
removing chemical additives from food and increasing breastfeeding
rates.
Oh, no.
Health Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy Jr. is the chair of this commission.

(01:53:52):
A lot of these 128 recommendations are things
that I've been dreaming about my whole life.
I've been working for and congressional campaigns and
presidential campaigns for other candidates.
And they get into office and they say,
well, we can't we just can't do it.
Kennedy says some of the ideas came from

(01:54:12):
discussions with farmers, teachers and doctors.
The report also focuses on harm from vaccines,
electromagnetic radiation and fluoride.
But medical experts have said those ideals are
not based in factual information.
It's not factual, people.
Just go to sleep.
Everything's OK.

(01:54:33):
Pay no attention to the guy with the
gravelly voice.
But this one has our attention because this
is the next step.
Next step.
Not quite the final nail in the coffin,
but it's a good start.
This is about the executive order.
The president just signed an executive order making
some news here when it comes to pharmaceutical
ads.
The president just signed an executive order that's

(01:54:56):
an historic change in the way that pharmaceutical
advertising is done on television.
And the order basically reinstates or gives us
now the opportunity to reinstate the 1997 rules.
Prior to 1997, pharmaceutical advertisers were required to
put all the side effects on their ads.

(01:55:18):
Many of them didn't advertise because it lengthened
because of what it did to the length
of the advertising and that the removal of
that requirement in 1997, FDA changed the rule
to allow them to report the side effects
on a website or on a telephone.

(01:55:39):
And they know they only had to report
a few of them on television and that
triggered a proliferation of these ads.
There's only two countries in the world that
allowed to direct the consumer advertising by pharmaceutical
companies on television or one of those countries.
New Zealand is the other.
It's had a disastrous impact on human health,

(01:56:00):
on people's relationships with their doctors and really
on the entire gestalt where Americans are led
to believe that there's a pill for every
ill and that you don't have to exercise,
you don't have to pay attention to your
diet, whatever goes wrong with you, you can
fix with a drug.
So how much does this change the dynamic
for pharmaceutical companies that have been advertising on

(01:56:23):
all kinds of channels, even online?
They're going to have to do a lot
more.
They're going to have to they're going to
have to report all their side effects.
In some cases, I might create an advertisement
that's four minutes long.
Back prior to 1997, advertising in magazines had
page after page after side effects reported.

(01:56:46):
And so we don't know exactly what we'll
do, what it will do.
But we we know it's going to be
better for for health, for the health of
America.
Now, I don't know about you, but I
think this is a genius idea.
Because it only benefits cable news.

(01:57:06):
If pharmaceutical ads will be longer, that shortens
the availability on a 24 hour, 60 minute
time clock, raising the prices to get in
with any advertisement.
It also informs the public about all the
stuff it's going to give you, which, as
we know, is not good.

(01:57:26):
I think this is a good move.
I think this is just a step.
In the right direction.
But a good move, nonetheless.
Yeah, it's not a bad move, but I
still think what happened to you, they decided
this memo came out.
We played this bunch of clips recently and
they're going after Kennedy.
They did it with the hearings.

(01:57:47):
They're yelling and screaming at him.
And you would then walking out the Elizabeth
Warren being the best example.
And we didn't play too many of those
clips, but it was pretty ridiculous.
And it was part of a concerted effort.
This is the cell.
That was the salvo.
This was the retort.
This was the response.
And I think it's always been in his

(01:58:08):
back pocket.
He says, you go after me.
You'd make my life miserable.
I'm going to take away your TV advertising.
So I think this is one step.
And but he wants to keep something in
his pocket.
So he still has the complete ban, which
I think is the long term goal.
And what should happen is a complete ban
of these ads.
Let's hope so.

(01:58:30):
So I think this was just this is
a this is political.
Well, yes, but it's but it keeps the
cable news companies in business for a bit
longer.
I think that may have been just to
assuage them.
Look, you're going to make a lot of
money with these extended ads.
No way they're going to do 30 seconds.
They can't do 30 seconds.
It's at least a two minute ad, maybe
longer.

(01:58:50):
So you're going to make a bunch of
money, but get ready for it.
You're going to get this going to get
cut off eventually.
They have to know that.
Meanwhile, in Sweden, a media conference in Sweden
was brought to a dramatic halt after their
newly appointed health minister collapsed.
Elizabeth Lahn was standing next to the country's
prime minister and other officials when she suddenly

(01:59:11):
fell over and hit her head.
Thankfully, she did return a short time later
with no apparent injuries, saying this is what
can happen when you have a blood sugar
drop.
Yeah, OK.
Did you see?
I don't think so.
Did you see the video?
No.
Oh, man, she did.
She did one of those covid drops.
I just dropped, fell forward.

(01:59:32):
The lectern went forward.
She banged her head on the lectern, just
complete out.
Yeah, blood sugar dropped.
OK, sure.
It had been pretty abrupt.
Yeah.
And my, my, my, how things change.
Here's the money, honey, with the latest.
We learned this morning that the FDA is

(01:59:52):
now saying that it's OK to take ivermectin
if you have covid.
I mean, Senator, I remember talking with you
repeatedly during covid about your upset that you
were they were trying to cancel you because
you were talking to doctors to try to
find out the right ways to treat covid

(02:00:15):
without having to get too many boosters and
covid shots.
My covid was gone in a day when
I took ivermectin.
And now three years later, the FDA says,
oh, yeah, that's fine.
Take ivermectin.
What?
What?
What?
What?
What?
Oh, money, honey, please.
She's just discovering that there's a new sheriff

(02:00:36):
in town.
What?
How can this be?
Because it was always like that.
It was always like that.
It was always like that.
But I like you can't have the emergency
use authorization if there's a treatment for the
product or for the disease.
I'm sorry for the disease.
So you can't get to you.
You said it right.
You know, you said it right.
A treatment for the product.

(02:00:56):
Yeah, treatment for the product.
You said it right the first time.
I did.
And the truth has to come out.
And so because of that one aspect alone,
not to mention hydroxychloroquine, they had to banish
it.
No, no, no.
You can't take this.
No good.
And just remember, we found the passport from

(02:01:17):
the terrorist right there on the ground.
I mean, the world is a scam, people.
Gen Z-ers, you're being scammed all the
time, except on this show.
And with that, I want to thank you
for your courage and say in the morning
to you, the man who put the C
in the mocha.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end.
The one, the only Mr. John C.
DeMora.

(02:01:41):
Good morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
My ship's sea boots to the ground.
Feet in the air, subs in the water,
and the dames and knights out there.
And the morning to the trolls in the
troll room.
Now, all right.
What do you think the peak was on
today's show?
Today is a Thursday.
I would say that maybe 1900.

(02:02:02):
2834.
Yeah, well, that's because of the news.
Yes.
The news drives the show.
That's right.
That's right.
And those people have discovered that, yes, it
does actually work.
You can listen again.
Welcome back, everybody.
We're glad to have you here.
But for how long?
How long will we be here?
It depends on what happens next week.

(02:02:24):
Well, probably nothing unless they find the shooter.
I'll tell you why I say this.
Big news in the podcasting industry.
Big, big news.
Inception Point AI, a new, well-funded company.
CEO is Janine Wright.
I think she was at Wondercraft or what

(02:02:44):
was she?
She was at some other company.
She made some money, punched out.
She has made a new company.
Inception Point AI.
And they are betting on flooding the zone
with audio content.
All AI generated.
All AI generated.
5,000 podcasts, 3,000 episodes a week.

(02:03:12):
Well, 5,000 podcasts.
You know, the funny thing is she thinks
that's a lot.
But there are 4.5 million podcasts and
over, what did you say?
100 or 200,000 active podcasts.
It's about 400,000 on a monthly basis.
Okay, there's 400,000 on a monthly basis
of people that are podcasting and continuing to

(02:03:35):
podcast, not just one offs or these casual
ones like you run into with the bigger
number, which is the 4.5 million total.
Yeah.
So there's a spit in the bucket.
Well, the thing is, they are looking at
the money and the way the money works.
So all she's going to do is ruin

(02:03:55):
it for everybody.
Correct.
She's saying, I'm doing this at a cost
of $1 per episode.
And so if you listen to, let's see,
we're going to.
Wait, does that include server time?
Did that include downloads?
Does that include the overhead?

(02:04:16):
You can't do it for $1 an episode.
Well, that depends on how popular.
See, she's looking at it across.
I don't think these podcasts will be.
Well, what she says here is you can.
Yeah, if there's nobody listening and you send
out one download.
Yeah, I guess you could do it for
a buck.
Well, she says we make money at 20
downloads a week.

(02:04:37):
It seems a little.
Well, listen to listen to this is the
tape.
The title of this podcast is the garden
podcast, and it's hosted by Nigel Thistledown.
Have a listen.
Nigel Thistledown, everybody.
What's going on, Texas?

(02:04:57):
It's Bluff here.
Oh, wait, I'm sorry.
First, we have to get two ads in
a row.
Let me see if I can skip and
tumbleweeds off your driveway.
This is how they're going to make money.
Whether you're looking for.
And I must garden disasters.
I possess something intelligence for get inspired.
Go to Sierra Classic.
Good evening, fellow garden survivors and connoisseurs of

(02:05:19):
delightful disasters.
I'm your host, Nigel Thistledown.
And I must once again reveal that I
am an artificial intelligence, which proves absolutely invaluable
for tonight's celebration of spectacular garden failures.
You see, while I may never personally experience
the crushing disappointment of watching three years of
careful planning collapse in a single afternoon thunderstorm,

(02:05:39):
I possess something rather remarkable.
Access to centuries of documented garden disasters, meteorological
catastrophes and horticultural mishaps from around the globe.
Welcome to garden and our final episode, the
great garden disasters.
What do you think?
I think people will listen to it.

(02:06:00):
No, they won't.
Oh, yes, the people are already listening.
They're like, well, that was a very interesting
episode.
This is his final episode.
No, I don't.
That's just the AI glitch.
It's not the final episode.
Oh, and there's a knitting podcast.
But a knitting podcast with it's not going

(02:06:21):
to make any sense.
Well, here she says the company is able
to produce each episode for one dollar or
less, depending on length and complexity and attach
programmatic advertising to it.
Do they have a scrimshaw podcast?
A scrimshaw?
What is scrimshaw?
That's where you carve little that you take
a tusk and you start carving on it,

(02:06:42):
you know, while you're on the boat.
Yeah, like the white, the white whale.
Was it a tusk?
Is that it?
White whale tusk?
No, you know what I mean?
Scrimshaw.
No, I don't.
But they're pipes.
Don't they have scrimshaw pipes?
Oh, yes, scrimshaw.
But yeah, it'd be something like that.

(02:07:03):
Anyway, the sound of slop.
It's here.
It's here.
Well, I have a here.
You got to play this.
Now that you bring this up.
There's counter programming already.
Oh, oh, here we go.
Do you ever open up social media, see
a post and wonder, is this even real?
You're not alone.
AI slop.

(02:07:23):
This mass produced low quality content is clogging
the Internet.
How about that xylophone in the background is
making me want to clog you.
You cannot trust that the news report you're
seeing on TikTok is real footage.
You cannot trust that the reviews you're reading
of, like, the sneakers you want to buy
are written by a human.
The Internet becomes less useful because you can't,

(02:07:45):
like, get information from it in the same
way that you used to be able to.
I'm Brittany Luce.
And on this episode of It's Been a
Minute, I'm getting into how AI slop is
clogging the Internet and your brain and what
you can do to get away from it.
Hit the button below to listen now.

(02:08:08):
Whoever thought that was a good idea?
Yeah, that's good.
That's dynamite.
Yeah, that's NPR for you.
That's NPR.
Here's the dilemma, though.
Here's the dilemma.
So, podcast index.
Do we ingest these 5000 AI slop podcasts?

(02:08:30):
Do we ban them?
No, you can't ban them.
Well, we can.
We have all the power.
I have all the power.
You have the power to ban, but you
can't.
You can't do it.
Do we mark them?
Should we mark them as lame?
No.
Or slop?
No.
No.
Why would I bother?
They're just index.
They're just, you know, you yourself.

(02:08:51):
That would ruin the whole podcasting 2.0
idea.
Because the idea was freedom, freedom, freedom.
I know.
Yuck, yuck, yuck.
And then this comes out.
And oh, we could have more freedom.
Hold on.
That's not my position.
But there are many in the podcast industrial
complex who are calling for this, who are

(02:09:13):
calling for marking it as AI, who are
calling for banning it outright.
I'm not saying...
Dave Jones and I are very clear.
As long as you've got an enclosure, you
could podcast a PDF.
I don't really care.
But this is a real conversation.
People who make their money with ads.

(02:09:34):
That's because they're under...
I don't care what system you set up.
There's an underbelly of people that want things
censored.
Yes, that's correct.
And you yourself with the Charlie Kirk stuff
at the beginning of the show where you're
upset about it.
You could throw that right back at him.
What about Charlie Kirk?
You think we should be shot because we're

(02:09:54):
going to let this go in?
They registered as a podcast.
They follow the rules.
They have the enclosure.
They put it in the 2.0 system.
So what are you going to do about
it?
Interestingly enough, the same people who want this
AI stuff banned would also love to see
Charlie Kirk banned.
Yeah, of course.
It's the same people.

(02:10:15):
It's the underbelly.
Same people.
Yep.
Same people.
The same people who say...
Tell them to set up their own podcasting
2.0 index.
Same people who say, oh, I hope Homeland
Security will let me into the country for
the conference.
So much of that.
So much of that.
My own sister did that.

(02:10:36):
She's in New York for a wedding.
Willow has an American passport.
Her husband doesn't.
And she said, it's been a good trip.
We didn't get stopped by Border Patrol.
What is this?
Has everybody...
Somehow everyone's afraid that America rousts you the
minute you come into the country.
Does she listen to the show?

(02:10:58):
No.
No one...
There's not a single person in my family
who listens to the show.
How about you?
I think the last person to listen to
the show was Don's wife.
How about you?
Oh, yeah.
Does she...
But you listen to it once, not knowing
she was a spook.
And she took...
That should have been a clue.
She had notes on a piece of paper.

(02:11:20):
Well, I think you guys are very patriotic.
I think you're right.
Fareed Zakaria is anti-constitutional.
And a very interesting program.
I had no idea.
I'm like, wow, Meg, thanks.
I had no idea.
She ran the Russia desk.
What did I know?
That's how good she was.
Should have been a clue.
Hey, you can get these podcasts, this podcast,

(02:11:43):
specifically on a modern podcast app, which is
connected to the podcast index, which is important
because when someone de-platforms your favorite podcast,
and it happens all the time, episodes specifically,
episodes on Spotify get removed all the time.
Certainly if you play...

(02:12:03):
We're not on Spotify because we won't sign
their agreements.
You know, you have to sign agreements so
they can put ads in whenever they want.
If you play any music in a podcast
episode that the algorithms identify as possibly copyrighted
music, which let's be honest, is 80%
of all of the fair use, end of

(02:12:28):
show mixes, fair use because it's parody and
relatable to the news that we are discussing.
Parodies are all legal.
Your episode just gets deleted.
No questions asked.
Yeah.
And no recourse.
Right.
So you don't want that.
You want to get a modern podcast.
Nobody wants that.
But people accept it like, oh, well, I

(02:12:49):
guess I got de-platformed, okay.
So you want to get something for podcastapps
.com and go look at the podcast index.
All the information is there.
There's a little apps tab there as well.
You can see how it works and what's
in there.
And it's all on the up and up.
And even the AI slop will be in
there without any censorship or de-platforming.
And value for value, almost 18 years, almost

(02:13:11):
1800 episodes.
We still get to do this every single
Thursday and Sunday.
It's amazing that you have allowed us to
do that.
We are so excited every single time to
perform this as a public service for you.
Time, talent and treasure is how we've kept
it rolling.
You hear the boots on the ground.

(02:13:31):
I mean, I didn't just find the report
on MIT.
No, we have someone who actually works in
the business that look, I got this report
fresh off the press.
Here it is for you.
That is very valuable.
And we also have $40 billion worth of
artwork machinery at our disposal.
And I could not be happier about it.

(02:13:52):
You put this in a new light for
me.
This is great.
$40 to $60 billion worth of investment is
made so that we can have cover art
for every single show.
However, the artwork for episode 1797, which is
titled Death Buses, was done by a professional
who knows what he's doing.

(02:14:12):
And this was Sir Shug, a.k.a.
Pho Diddley, who deconstructed the Austin, the new
$1.2 million Austin logo to create a
new No Agenda logo.
Do you think this was AI deconstructed or
did he do this in Photoshop?
What do you think?
This has to be a Photoshop job.
I think so too.

(02:14:32):
It just didn't feel like, AI is not.
I can see where you could take and
cut out that Austin thing and move things
around a little bit and drop the No
Agenda label and Curry Dvorak and easier.
There's no way that AI could work that,
do that.
He'd be prompting all day.

(02:14:53):
We're not near professor level intelligence?
What?
There's no way.
There's no way.
It was good.
And everyone who saw it immediately said, oh,
that's great.
That's what makes a great piece of art.
Well, that's if they all noticed that what
the logo looked like.
Well, I only care about my friends.

(02:15:15):
I don't care about anybody else.
Of course, I don't care about anybody else.
There were other pieces of art that we
looked at.
By the way, if Sir Shug is listening,
which he probably is.
Yes.
And he did that using AI in any
way.
Which system did you use?

(02:15:36):
Unless he said, the AI gave me a
yellow background, except for that.
Maybe that, maybe that.
I would like to know if AI was
involved.
And I am absolutely convinced there's no chance.
It's really amazing what AI is doing.
And it's really with things that there was
already.

(02:15:56):
I mean, is there really a business for
graphic designers anymore?
I mean, really?
Unless you're working for the city of Austin
and you just overcharge him and you say,
look, here's what I did.
Well, I have some friends who are professionals
at the highest level.
And how are they doing?
And they've long since given up.
But they gave up on the business.

(02:16:16):
That's exactly my point.
They've given up on it.
No, but they gave up before AI.
Why did they give up?
Because of all the free clip art that's
available and spot art that is, they're just
libraries and libraries full of it.
And it was too hard to compete with
it.
Well, in other words, you can compete with

(02:16:37):
it, but you couldn't compete at the price
levels.
You couldn't get the top dollar you used
to be able to get 30 years ago
for your spot art.
One of our producers is a songwriter in
Nashville.
And he sent me, he said, look, this
is a song idea I had.
And he sent a demo.
You know how demos used to sound on

(02:16:57):
a cassette tape?
Someone's singing along, you know, kind of off
key.
It's okay.
Maybe you got a good singer to come
in.
It's never really, it doesn't really sound professional,
but it's okay.
And then you give that to the label
and the label then takes it and gets
an artist to record it.
And boom, Bob's your uncle.

(02:17:19):
You got some money.
If it's a big name artist, it's great.
This songwriter said, I just threw this into
AI myself and listen to this.
And it was like completely done.
Like a Nashville song, completely done, right, like
it came out of the studio.
I mean, that is just over.
Now you'll always have, you'll always have, you

(02:17:40):
know, something special, someone new, someone that does
something that the AI has not yet done.
That's always going to happen.
That will always be the case and people
will take note of it and it will
be successful.
But still, even then with streaming and Spotify,
there's no money in it.
So we're just going to have to deal
with it, I think.

(02:18:00):
And now they're trying to do that with
podcasters.
But can anyone really replicate what we do?
Is that really possible?
Eventually.
I don't think so.
Yeah, but probably the whole thing will collapse
before that happens.
But when I say eventually, I mean eventually,
like within a hundred years.

(02:18:22):
Oh, okay.
Well, we'll go to the moon within a
hundred years.
I'm sure that'll happen.
Maybe.
Until then, no $40 to $60 billion invested
here.
Instead, we depend on your support of the
program.
This is unique in podcasting.
There's not a lot of people who have
done this successfully and certainly not for 18

(02:18:43):
years.
And we believe it's because it's an outstanding
product.
There's no other way to do value for
value.
Or as some say, I work for tips.
No, no, no, we don't.
And people have supported us and we are
eternally grateful for the opportunity to do this
for you and for the value you return
for whatever you receive from the program.

(02:19:04):
And today we have one of those examples
of someone who has the means and the
love for the show.
Seronomous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia comes in
once again with his mysterious number, not ending
in a two, I might add.
So I don't know if he had $2
bills, but today he sends in- He
always has $2 bills.
You don't have to keep wondering.

(02:19:25):
He had six of them in this donation.
$3,141, which we are so grateful for.
And you have a note I have on
my thing right here.
You have a note.
I have a note.
In fact, I didn't get a copy of
said notes.
Usually I get a scanned copy of the
note.
You do.

(02:19:47):
But why not today?
Because Jay's in Seattle.
Oh, so she didn't have the note.
No, I had the note.
Okay, all right.
You don't have a scanner.
You got printers all over the house, no
scanner.
I have a scanner.
Well, you should have scanned it for me.
It's easier to write, John has note, which

(02:20:07):
is three words, on a memo to Jay
directly.
Okay, as long as they don't have to
copy down any information, it's good.
Then, oh, you mean, oh, what?
Yeah, it's funny because this is the first
time Onimus asked for about eight clips.
I doubt it.
It's interesting.
I doubt it.
He did.
No, he didn't.

(02:20:27):
Okay, here we go.
It's too much travel again, causing delays in
producership, he writes.
This donation includes any cash processing fee.
Cash.
I'm going to read this, but I can
assure you that we don't do this.
And I'm sorry to say, personally, I recommend
not depositing cash, but adding it to your

(02:20:50):
pallet of cash for future use.
No, your pallet.
We don't have a pallet of cash.
We put it in the bank so we
can split it at the end of the
year, but at the same time, make sure
that it's documented so the IRS doesn't say,
hey, these guys are taking cash money and
putting it aside.
We don't do that.
No.
A note for travelers on the EU currency

(02:21:11):
restrictions.
Oh, this now, here we go.
Here we go.
Take up to the limit of $10,000
and exchange US dollars cash at different currency
exchanges.
In time, they may develop a method to
capture passport numbers across different networks.
But for now, it allows you to have

(02:21:32):
more than the currency limit and helps keep
credit cards in your pocket, reducing future fraud
risk and offers the added benefit of annoying
retailer checks that can't, retailer clerks that can't
count change.
So we're talking about those areas that we've
talked about on the show where you can't

(02:21:52):
have more than $300.
Yes.
He says, hell with it.
Take your 10 grand across the border and
then go do a bunch of it.
You get a lot of $300, $200, $300
here and there.
So he says, so it's just like.
All right, this is a little tip.
A little tip for the travelers.
Adam.
Yes.
Your view that some of our challenges is

(02:22:15):
the devil at work has merit, but recall
that life is a human endeavor and there
has always been profound evil in the world.
Amen.
We are in total agreement.
Small note, last month's shekels were from my
visit to the West Bank.
Yes, he sent some shekels.

(02:22:36):
He visited the West Bank.
That's interesting.
Yeah, we're figuring it out.
We're getting close.
My visit to the West Bank, you know
the place.
P-I-S-A-A-K-A-J
-E-S-U-S was born P-B
-U-H, which is a piece be above
me.
He's talking about Allah or about Muhammad.

(02:22:58):
That's P-B-A-H refers to.
No jingles, no karma.
John, 175 words.
He's well within his budget.
Well done.
And I believe he, although.
Am I the only one that complains about
long notes?
Is that what he's implying?
That's the reputation that you have.

(02:23:20):
Yes, that's your reputation.
It doesn't mean it's correct, but reputation is
just a fact.
You can't deal with it any other way.
You got to rep and that's it.
So you might as well say it.
Okay.
Say what?
Well, if you're being accused of the crime,
you might as well commit the crime.

(02:23:40):
And tell people.
It's not a crime to bitch about the
people writing long notes that are too long
for the show.
Yeah, exactly.
What kind of a crime is that to
complain?
It's like now you can't complain.
It's a crime figure of speech.
Thank you, Sir.
Animus.
Now he receives a secretary generalship.

(02:24:01):
I believe he never wants anything.
Well, but it's he got on the list.
Okay.
Let me just check.
Because Jay just puts people on the list.
She just wants to send stuff out.
Let me see.
But no, she doesn't.
She's like, I can't wait to send.
Yeah.
She put him on the list.
And I don't know what I'm going to
do.
So I got it.
The package in the mail.

(02:24:21):
It doesn't have anybody's name on it.
I have no idea where it came from.
It's from one of those plays that printing
operation.
The big one print for less or whatever
it's called.
And it's two envelopes.
And each one of them had a very
elaborate set of small, no agenda stickers.

(02:24:42):
Oh, that's cool.
Little silver stickers are about very small, like
half inch round stickers with a logo on
them and no agenda.
And I got two sheets and two different
envelopes within the package.
I would like to know who sent those
to me and what they want us to
use them for.
Are they handsome stickers?
Yeah, they're cute.

(02:25:03):
It's pretty because it's a silver little silver
sticker.
I'll take a couple and put them on
some trucks out here.
No, it's too small.
We're talking a little bitty things.
They're like on a sheet of paper at
the bottom, maybe, or it's a stamp for
the back of an envelope there.
No, this wouldn't do any good on your

(02:25:23):
laptop cover.
Can we put on the no, it's too
small for that.
It's their small little stamp size stickers.
Sir Scovey is up next from Charlotte, North
Carolina, and he comes in with nine nine
nine nine nine.
Nine nine nine nine matching donations alert in
the morning to Alexander Wenta, Sir Sam and

(02:25:43):
Charlotte in San Francisco for their donations of
333 dot 33 to show 1797.
Thank you for your courage.
All six donations have been matched.
But wait, there's more.
A seventh was matched because Charlotte in San
Francisco not only mentioned the matching donation offer,
but did so on a handwritten note.
That's worthy of a match to the best

(02:26:05):
podcast in the universe.
Goat karma for the seven producers who made
the matching donations possible.
Love and light from Sir Scovey in Charlotte,
North Carolina.
And this concludes the matching donations.
And we thank you all very much.
Producers who match.
And of course, Sir Scovey, thank you for
your courage.
You've got karma.

(02:26:26):
It was nice of him to give that
last extra one.
That's very, that's very kind.
Yes.
Sir, your honest mechanic.
And he is in.
Easley, South Carolina.
Easley, yeah.
Easley, Easley.
Easley there is also known as Kevin Fusco

(02:26:48):
526 36 ITM fellas.
This is Sir, your honest mechanic.
I'm back probably a month back in episode
or I'm back.
And this is probably a month back in
episode.
So you're, you've probably already, they spell it
right.

(02:27:08):
That time already talked about this.
Okay.
One of my employees came to me and
said, our insurance sucks.
The doctor prescribed my wife Zep bound for
her sleep.
No, no.
He said the FDI just recently approved it.
I had a great laugh when he said

(02:27:30):
that.
And I thought it's only a matter of
time before these are good for erectile dysfunction.
Like Adam keeps predicting.
It's coming.
I thought it already happened.
Well, thank you.
No jingles.
Just karma for everyone.
Thank you, Kevin.
Yes, well, it kind of said it, but

(02:27:50):
they haven't actually advertised it as erectile dysfunction.
So not quite, but we're getting close.
You've got karma.
Matt Stevens, Nahunta.
Nahunta.
I'm probably mispronouncing that in Georgia.
Nahunta.
350, Nahunta.
350.93. That's 333 plus 33 fees.

(02:28:14):
Thank you.
Plus fees.
Thank you both for your work in ceremony
of Charlie Kirk.
Please knight me, sir.
Matthew of the lower memory.
In memory of Charlie Kirk.
Please knight me, sir.
Matthew of the lower coastal plain.
Matt Stevens in Nahunta, Georgia.
So he'll be the Sir Matthew of the
lower coastal plains today.

(02:28:35):
And thank you, Matt.
Appreciate it.
You can get the next one after I
read Sir Joseph's note.
And he's in Ewing, New Jersey.
This is the other note that came in.
Well, there's two notes here.
Two notes in a row.
And I don't have, I only have one
note.
So I don't know what note you're about
to read.
Oh, wait, this is, no, this is Sir

(02:28:56):
Joseph.
I have the note, the sheet from, I
don't know where that other note is.
I have.
No, yeah, I think that's the one that
attaches to the PDF.
I have Beth, Beth Elliott or Chad Elliott.
What do I have?
I have Beth Elliott.
That's the one I have.
Yeah, that's the note.
So you have Sir Joseph, no, but there's
Sir Joseph before that.
Yeah, I have Sir Joseph in my, right
in my poem.
Well, why don't I just read this one

(02:29:16):
then?
And you can do that, which is what
you originally suggested.
Well, because then we're skipping Sir Lucas.
Why don't you read Sir Luca and then
we'll go from there.
From Switzerland.
There are two kinds of people in the
world, those who use the metric system and
those who still use body parts and kitchen
utensils as units of measurement and fake the

(02:29:37):
moon landings.
This would be typical of a Swiss guy.
And they fake the moon landings.
Please, I would appreciate if you gave a
cancer karma, an F cancer karma, I'm sure,
for my father who was fighting a prostate
cancer comeback with ivermectin, a dog dewormer and
supplements.
Yes, we're familiar with this and very good
results I've heard.

(02:29:57):
Please keep us informed.
In October, we will know if it worked.
Lastly, happy 51st birthday to me on September
11th.
Thank you for your attention to this matter,
says Sir Luca.
Stop it!
You've got karma.
So this is Sir Joseph of Ewing, New

(02:30:21):
Jersey.
He came with 333 and he was plugging
something on his check, but I don't have
a check here.
But he says, and he also has a
funny letterhead of gumbo boombas.
Anyway, he's a character, the Sir Joseph.
He's the lord of the central Jersey swamp.

(02:30:43):
If someone told me that I would someday
donate $1,000 to a podcast, I would
have told them that they needed their head
examined.
Well, I need my head examined because this
is the third donation.
333.34 puts me into the knighthood category.
I couldn't possibly ask you to kick in

(02:31:04):
the penny considering, oh, he added it, how
much bitching John does about the lackluster donations
of late.
I complain a lot.
Please knight me, Sir Joseph, lord of the
central Jersey swamps.
And if you would, if you'd be so

(02:31:25):
kind to provide, by the way, this is
in 4-point type.
So I'm struggling.
If you'd provide some gumbo parmesan and albata,
albata beer.
See, this is exactly why you need to
scan the notes, because now I have to
go into the system.
I've got to go into the show notes.

(02:31:47):
I've got to say, can you repeat that
again?
Yeah.
What is it?
Yeah, well, I would have scanned the note
if I'd known this was in there, but
I didn't read the note.
Oh, very good.
Please mention my band, the Gumbo Goombas, who
can be found on my digital platform, and
I will be able to deduct the offering
as an advertising expense on my taxes.

(02:32:10):
Okay.
You know, it's between you and the IRS,
but it sounds like an ad to me
for the gum.
I said it already twice.
Gumbo Goombas.
That's three.
P.S. I recently celebrated my 68th.
Ah, I bet she's not on the birthday
list.
No, another thing I got to add.
Okay, well, gee, I'm sorry.
You're going to have to do some work.
I'm struggling trying to read this note.

(02:32:32):
My 68th revolution, that was my fault, because
normally when I send these to Jay, when
she's floating around someplace else, I will put
the birthday call out on this.
It would have been on the thing, and
it would have been taken care of, but
that was my fault.
Sir Joseph, and he turned 68 when?
Uh, I'm looking.

(02:32:53):
He doesn't say.
And can you, again, give me what he
wants for the roundtable?
Because you still didn't tell me.
Yeah, he wants for the roundtable.
He wants Gumbo Parmesan, which I have no
idea what that is, and Elata, Elata, AL,
oh, I'm sorry, Elbata, A-L-B-I

(02:33:14):
-T-A, beer.
Elbata, Elbita, A-L-B-I-T-A?
Yeah, that's what it says.
A-L-B-I-T-A, Elbita.
Well, let me look close.
Yeah.
Okay, that's not Elbata, it's Elbita.

(02:33:38):
Well, again, it's a four-point type, so.
Okay.
When you get in your 70s, even with
the cataract operation, you can't read four-point
type.
I recently celebrated my 68th revolution.
He goes on about that.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Soon-to-be-Joseph, Lord of the Central
Jersey Swamps.
All right, we've got it all.

(02:33:59):
Then we have Beth Elliot, who says, in
the morning, John and Adam, a written note,
and this I also have not just a
note, but I have a, for some reason,
a scan of the check.
It's a pretty check.
Assuming this arrives in time, can you please
read this on Thursday, September 11th?
Show switcheroo for my smoking hot hubby of
31 years, Chad, who hit me in the

(02:34:21):
mouth during COVID.
Thank you for that, and congrats.
You are no longer a douchebag.
You've been de-douched.
Happy anniversary, sexy ass, she says.
For jingles, may I have their eating the
dogs, I got hairy legs, and little girl
yay.
Thank you, gentlemen, for your courage.
In all uppercase, for your attention to this

(02:34:42):
matter.
Yours truly, Beth.
P.S., Chad says, I listen to y
'all too much.
They're eating the dogs.
I got hairy legs.
All right.
Now we have Sir Cal of Lavender Blossoms,
our buddy in Northville, Michigan, 2772.
And he says, even though this is not

(02:35:03):
true, I think it's about time I show
my appreciation for all you do.
He does all that constantly.
Thank you.
Happy birthday, Adam, which is a little late,
but there it is.
And R-I-P-C-K, Sir Cal.
Sir Cal, you've been around for a long
time and have supported us a lot.
So thank you very much.

(02:35:23):
Yeah.
Hey, Eli the Coffee Guy is about to
round it out.
We have a couple more.
He's from Bensonville, Illinois, 20911.
There it is.
He's always with the date, 9-11.
Normally, I would try to write something witty
along with a plug for Gigawatt Coffee, but
I was in the middle of drafting my
donation dote when I received a text that
Charlie Kirk had been shot.
Although I didn't listen to him much, I

(02:35:44):
just want to express my sorrow.
Any political killing tears at the fabric of
our nation.
I mourn the death of Kirk.
I also mourn the last 25 years since
the fateful morning in September that sent planes
crashing into buildings.
I miss the world before that future generations
will never know.
I'm concerned of what they shall inherit.
I'm sure this event and the following media

(02:36:04):
circus will help usher in new security measures
and even greater loss of freedoms.
Thank you for pointing out the BS, says
Eli the Coffee Guy.
Linda Lou Patkins up and she's in Lakewood,
Colorado.
Two hundred bucks is once jobs, Carmen.
She says worried about AI for resume that
gets results.
Tell your tells your unique story and highlights

(02:36:27):
the value you bring.
Go to ImageMakersInc.com.
That's ImageMakersInc with a K and work with
Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of
resumes.
And then I want to continue with winning
winning resumes.
And she needs what I say.
Just you just you just actually you phoned
it in.
Yeah, I probably did.
You should have read it.

(02:36:49):
Jobs, Karma, worried about AI for a resume
that gets results, tells your unique story and
highlights the value you bring.
Go to ImageMakersInc.com.
That's ImageMakersInc with a K and work with
Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of
winning resumes.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.

(02:37:09):
Hey, at least we're honest.
So you so will you do this that
you're so damn good?
Can you do the voiceovers for Mimi's ads
as she runs for city council in Port
Angeles?
Oh, I'd be delighted to.
I told her exactly that.
I said she I said, I don't even
have to ask him if you asked him.
Have you asked him?
I said, no, I haven't asked him.

(02:37:31):
He'll just do it.
He's an egomaniac.
He'd be glad.
Oh, what?
Oh, hold on.
I just I mean, I'm sorry.
I was going to do it until John
called me an egomaniac.
I'm no longer doing it.
Nope.
You can blame John.
Nope.
That's it.
I'm done.
Nope.
Sorry.
It's all over.
So anonymous.
And by the way, so apparently she and

(02:37:54):
one of our producers did a meetup promo
for the for the meetup in Oakland.
No, no, that's it.
No, they're doing a meetup in Port Angeles,
Port Angeles.
But they're doing a meetup.
So they send me a meetup promo with
Mimi.
But they send me an audacity file.

(02:38:15):
Like, I can't open this.
I mean, I could.
Oh, they didn't send an audacity.
Yes.
Yes, they did.
Oh, that's embarrassing.
The audacity project file.
And I'm like, she says to me, here
we go.
Here we go.
Yeah, we decided.
I forget the guy's name.
Now, does your wife talk like that?

(02:38:39):
I agreed to I agreed to make her
voice talking like this, which is hard for
me to do.
So I don't do it.
But she said that they had they've got
the that device.
You have the road test and they recorded
it.
And they say, how do we get it
off of here?
And they couldn't figure out how to get.

(02:38:59):
I said, let's just take the memory out.
You know, we finally worked it out.
Send me the memory card.
So they finally worked it out.
They didn't do the memory.
The easiest thing to do is take the
memory card, stick in a computer, boom, you're
done.
Yeah.
But so they took it and I guess
they put in audacity and then they sent
you the audacity.
They went to say with audacity, if you
go to save project, it saves it as

(02:39:23):
this crazy format that is not audio.
It's just their format.
Yeah.
Instead of exporting it, they didn't know to
export it.
Yes.
Is this the podcast studio they're running up
there?
Yeah.
Don't get it down.
Well, and to be honest, I got it
and I have audacity.
But then it opened up.
And first of all, audacity, which is now
a commercial company, gives you all kinds of

(02:39:44):
great offers.
And then it says, yeah, this is no
longer compatible with this version of audacity.
It was close to showtime.
Like, OK, I'm sorry, you got to send
me an MP3.
And so it's not going to be when
is that?
When is the meetup?
It's next.
It's this coming Saturday.
Oh, crap.
So we can't even play their their jingle.
They're they're.
Well, the day you know, you have to

(02:40:04):
go to the source.
They screwed it up.
And I didn't export the file.
Instead, they send you that.
And audacity being what it is, because I've
noticed this, too.
It's horrible.
It's changed so much over the last couple
of iterations.
It's because it became a commercial company all
of a sudden from open source to someone
buying it somehow.

(02:40:24):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why doesn't that happen to podcast index for
a couple of million?
We can go from open, open source to
be bought.
We got no problem to be bought.
I know.
I know your style.
Yeah, that's OK.
So, OK, they're having they're having the meetup
coincident with the Oakland meetup, which I'll be
at.
And but it'll be listed in the Port

(02:40:46):
Angeles is having a meetup on Saturday.
And there is going to jail be up
there.
Oh, nice.
Oh, that's and Brennan.
So they'll have to be up there.
They would normally be at the Oakland.
You mean Brennan, the deadbeat with no job,
that guy?
He still gets checks.
So he he'll be there with Jay and

(02:41:08):
they'll have I don't know where they're doing
it, but it was listed.
And I'll be at the Oakland meetup, which
is going to be at the pizza place
in Oakland again, Violetas.
So the producers are saying, post the file
to the chat and we'll we'll take care
of it for you.
And I'm like, they will.
Yeah, but I think it's it's like raw

(02:41:29):
audio, like 15 gigs or something for for
these things.
You know what I mean?
It sends something weird, send something weird out.
Could be wrong.
Let's see if you can post it.
Anyway, last donation is from anonymous.
I wanted to mention this game is his
check is two hundred dollars.
The person was adamant about not mentioning who
it is, but did say that she.

(02:41:54):
Now, this is discovered, just discovered you can
send in a check and couldn't do anything
because you didn't want to do anything else
and realize that this is great.
I can send in money now because I
didn't realize how easy it is to send
in a check.
Oh, it's so easy.
It's a box three, three, nine El Cerrito,
California, nine, four, five, three.

(02:42:16):
It's just beyond me while everybody doesn't send
in a check.
It costs 15 cents to process.
Oh, yeah, I can't post it to the
chat because it's 31 megs.
I can only upload 15 megs.
I'm sorry, people.
Sorry.
All right.
Wow.
Yeah, here we go.

(02:42:38):
OK, was that it?
Was that the last?
That was it.
We're done.
All right.
Right here.
Thank you to these executive and associate executive
producers for episode 1798.
Two more to go until the big 1800.
Will they survive 18 years?
The best podcast in the universe.
That's up to you if you want us
to continue with this open source, open funding,

(02:42:58):
completely transparent system we have put up where
we thank everybody who supports us.
Fifty dollars and above.
And of course, these executive and associate executive
producers, they receive these credits, which are official
show business credits, and they receive them because
they came in with 200 or 300 dollars.
But any amount matters to us.
Anything that you want to send back as

(02:43:19):
value is value for value for us.
And we'll be thanking $50 and above in
our second segment.
Thanks again.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the
mouth.

(02:43:43):
I just had an idea here.
Let me see.
I can probably post this.
You know, I got an idea here.
I think I can get this on a
server and get them to it.
Oh, yeah.
I got everything, baby.
Let me see if this works.
You're going to post it somewhere and have
them pick it up?
Yep.
Yep.
Here it is.
It's an AUP3 file.

(02:44:07):
AUP3?
Because I don't even know what that is.
I've never even seen that.
All the files I have that are backed
up like that are AUPs.
Well, this says AUP3.
So they export it as something special.
Good luck, boys.
Yeah.
Well, the chat has it.
So the trolls will go to work.
I mean, it's really just I ran out

(02:44:27):
of time.
First thing, everyone always assumes, well, don't you
have a Google account connected to adamantcurry.com?
Like, no.
No, I have a Google account, which is
not adamantcurry.com.
And so I always have to request access,
which usually, you know, an hour later, people
go like, oh, okay, here you go.

(02:44:48):
Here's your access.
Oh, sorry, I got the access.
And then they send it back.
And it's like, okay.
Anyway, the trolls are going to take care
of it.
We might get it done.
We need to get it done, which is
later in the show.
The trolls are going to do it.
The trolls are going to do it.
They're going to do it.
Yeah, we'll see.
Yeah, they're going to do it.
There's a lot of trolls today, and they're
bored.
We have great trolls.

(02:45:09):
Now, speaking of one of the best trolls
in the universe.
Wow, this came in this morning on the
Transom.
Bye-bye, Mandelson.
Breaking news this hour.
Let's go live to Westminster.
Our political correspondent, Sreena Barkasinghe.
Sreena, we're hearing in the last few moments
that Peter Mandelson has been asked to withdraw
as ambassador by the prime minister.
Yes, exactly.

(02:45:29):
Withdraw from being the ambassador, or essentially he's
been sacked by the prime minister.
And you heard from the foreign minister there,
Stephen Doughty, who was drawn out by the
Conservatives' urgent questions today to make that announcement.
It's not a surprise.
We were talking this morning about how long
could Peter Mandelson sustain this drip feed of

(02:45:52):
information, these very embarrassing photos, that one of
him in a bathrobe at one of Jeffrey
Epstein's residencies.
But it seems to be these emails that
are the most damning.
And the foreign office has said these are
the new information that emerged.
This sacking has gone down, whether he was

(02:46:15):
told personally, whether he was summoned in.
But it was clearly becoming untenable that Peter
Mandelson could sustain his position.
And remember, the government has a commitment to
women and girls, and halving violence against women
and girls was optically not looking very good.
But it seems like those emails were the
most damning things.

(02:46:36):
And that's why the prime minister has said
today, via his foreign minister, that the U
.S. ambassador now has been sacked.
So these emails, as I was reading through
them, it's like, haven't we seen these?
It's been around for a long time.
This whole thing is blowed up again.

(02:46:58):
And they had the latest Trump no to
his birthday party or something, which I thought
was actually pretty funny.
Well, the thing that is poorly reported on
is it looks like a script, a script
with a voiceover.
And it literally looks like a side from
a script.
And no one ever comments on that.

(02:47:20):
I'm not sure what script was it from.
Was it from a TV show, a reality
show?
Was it from a movie?
Why is it a script at the top?
It has voice voiceover.
If you really look at it, it's very
confusing.
And of course, we know it's a Democrat
hoax, everybody.
This is the birthday message allegedly crafted by

(02:47:42):
Donald Trump for Jeffrey Epstein in 2003.
We have certain things in common, it says,
inside a drawing of a naked female form.
May every day be another wonderful secret, it
adds, above what appears to be Trump's signature.
You know, it actually, that drawing, it looks
like, remember as kids, we would draw that

(02:48:02):
and then we'd cover up a part of
it and people like, oh man, I can't
believe you drew that.
And you take your hands off.
And it was actually a horse's head.
Do you remember that joke?
Remember that joke we used to play?
No, that was a joke that I've never
heard of.
Looks a bit like that.
Signature.
I don't even know what they're talking about.
Now, somebody could have written a letter and
used my name, but that's happened a lot.
I'm not a drawing person.

(02:48:23):
I don't do drawings of women, that I
can tell you.
Despite White House denials, the signature appears to
match Trump's on other letters sent during the
same time period.
The president did not write this letter.
He did not sign this letter.
The drawing was contained in a birthday book,
prepared for Epstein's 50th birthday, before he was
convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor.

(02:48:45):
The book also included a message, allegedly from
former U.S. President Bill Clinton.
And this photo, that appears to be a
joke about Epstein selling a woman to Trump
for $22,000.
This is a Democrat hoax that never ends.
The material was obtained by Democrats on the
House Oversight Committee, along with other records from

(02:49:06):
Epstein's estate.
Part of a broader push for the release
of the full Epstein files, after the Trump
administration backtracked on a promise to make them
public.
If Republicans don't want to engage in a
cover-up of pedophilia and this pedophilia ring,
they should go sign this discharge petition.
Trump and his allies keep trying to change
the channel.

(02:49:26):
At one point, even claiming Trump was secretly
working against his longtime friend.
It was an FBI informant to try to
take this stuff down.
I can affirm that is not true.
The shifting explanations and increasingly damning evidence have
done little to quell the questions about Trump's
involvement with the notorious sex offender.
A story that seems unlikely to go away

(02:49:47):
anytime soon.
Well, so that's the rundown.
You have the latest.
The check is pretty funny.
Somehow, I think I'd seen that book.
Am I just imagining that we've seen all
these things before?
Well, I know you haven't seen the Clinton
cartoon.
Oh, no, that's new.
Yeah.
Well, I don't remember this drawing being that.

(02:50:11):
But maybe there's a couple of them.
No, I remember the check, the picture with
the check.
I remember that somehow.
Anyway, I don't remember that.
An unlikely response from an unlikely, quote unquote,
ally.
The Senator John Fetterman was asked about this.
Senator, on the findings from the House Oversight
Committee on this alleged birthday book, this note

(02:50:34):
that the president allegedly wrote to Jeffrey Epstein
for his birthday.
Do you have any comment on that and
the drawing that goes with that?
Again, I don't think the Epstein thing is
the big thing.
I don't know.
Release it.
I don't care.
But it's strange.
The Democrats, we've had that for four years.
We didn't release that.
I don't know why we didn't do that.
So for now, release it.
But I don't think that's going to.

(02:50:56):
It's this idea that suddenly that's going to
be the one thing that's going to take
out Trump.
You know, I don't believe that that is.
He'll still be here.
I don't think it's just a distraction, honestly.
But go ahead and release whatever that is.
But it's not important.
Fetterman.
He's all in with the with the president

(02:51:17):
on this.
Yeah, it's just a distraction.
It's quite the distraction.
Yeah, I don't know why.
Well, again, if I go back to my
own thesis, it's meant to be a distraction.
It's meant to be.
Well, they forced me to do it.
And here's the here it is.
And then some people get burned and Trump
can be again.
So far, aimless.
I said not to do it.

(02:51:38):
I'm sorry, boys, that this happened to you.
But this is nothing I get any control
over.
The Democrats is them.
Well, so Mandelson got burned.
And this is just what a week before
President Trump goes to the U.K. for
a state visit.
That's rather embarrassing.
Yeah, I say.
Mandelson.
Do you see the pictures?
He's in his bathrobe and he's like, hey,

(02:51:58):
my best friend.
My goodness.
Men are so, men are so disgusted for
getting burned like this.
Yeah.
Wow.
It's always a sex scandal there.
Yeah.
What was that dude's name?
No, I don't.
I can almost come on.
I know who would know.
It's amazing how you forget this guy.

(02:52:19):
The necrophiliac.
Remember that guy?
Oh, something.
Jim.
Jim.
Jim will fix it.
I don't remember that.
Yeah, yeah.
No, of course you do.
The guy with the hat.
Ask Irvine there what she thinks.
Irvine.
Let's ask Irvine.
Hey, Irvine.

(02:52:40):
Who was the famous British pedophile that got
arrested, never got arrested, but then eventually died?
Jim will fix it, dude.
That'd be Jimmy Savile.
Ah, Jimmy Savile.
Oh, yeah.
Jimmy Savile.
Sure.
Jimmy Savile.
There you go.
That was.
Duh.
How would a creep that guy was.

(02:53:00):
All happened during the course of this show,
I might add.
And boy, they did.
They covered that up, didn't they?
Whoa.
Shh.
Yeah, the entire BBC was the BBC.
Didn't didn't they kill the journalist over that
woman who got killed outside her house?
I don't know.
Ask the robot.
I'm not going to ask the robot everything.

(02:53:21):
I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to do that.
Adam and the robot.
There's your title.
Adam and the robot.
Hey, stick with me, baby.
Adam and the robot.
It's a possible exit strategy.
Think of it.
I can have twice the money.
Adam and the robot.
For 20 bucks a month.
You didn't have the money because when you

(02:53:42):
have the robot won't complain enough.
I'll teach the robot to complain.
It'll cost me 20 bucks a month.
Adam and the robot.
Everybody, it's Adam and the robot.
Hey, robot, how you doing?
Robot, say hello.
Adam and the robot, everybody.
Woohoo!
In the morning.
Yep.
Yeah, it's going to happen.
I'm talking about whining.
I had to get this clip, by the

(02:54:03):
way.
This BBC clip about the Voice of America
complaining.
OK.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I got it.
The Trump administration is moving to fire most
remaining journalists at the federally funded broadcaster, Voice
of America.
The move is likely to be challenged in
the courts.
More than 500 termination notices have been sent
out, including one to Patsy Wikus-Wara, who

(02:54:26):
until now was the Voice of America White
House Bureau chief.
I think it's quite clear that press freedom
in the United States is under attack, not
just what's happening with us, with Voice of
America, but also our colleagues, public broadcasters such
as public radio, NPR, and then PBS, as
well as private stations.
They're also under attack from the White House.

(02:54:47):
And if you just look at any White
House briefing, you see a lot of very
right wing influencers.
Oh, yeah.
BBC News.
Of course.
Oh, there's right wingers there.
All right wingers on those podcasters.
Podcasters in the White House.
What are we going to do?
This is no good.
Can't have the podcast.

(02:55:08):
We never get invited to something cool.
Invite us to the White House.
No one's going to invite us to anything.
When you didn't get invited, because I still
think we're a fairly neutral show about politics.
But when you but you did come out
for Trump in 2015, 2016.
Well, you came out for Trump.
You said, I want Trump.

(02:55:29):
That's not what I...
You made a big fight.
No, you lie.
No, well, let me finish.
You thought Trump would be the...
You were backing Trump.
You predicted he was going to win.
You lie.
I said, this guy can go all the
way.
And you said, no, man, it's Marco Rubio.
That's how that went down.

(02:55:51):
You made a point of endorsing Trump and
you never got invited to the inauguration.
That's the way I see it.
Remember?
I endorsed him.
OK, all right.
And you never got invited.
No, because I never endorsed him.
If I had said, yeah, go, man.
Go, go, go.
People, somebody go dig this up and do
some research.

(02:56:11):
Yeah, please do send it to me.
I'll gladly play it.
I find it very annoying that you didn't
get invited to the inauguration.
Yeah, I'm not surprised.
Joe Rogan went.
He represented all podcasts.
He went to...
He didn't go to the inauguration in 2016.
No, that's right.
He went to the second one.
You're right.
He hated...
I hate it.

(02:56:32):
He was not a Trump fan.
He was a...
Yeah.
He was a Bernie fan.
He was a Bernie Sanders fan.
Right.
He was a Bernie boy.
You and Rogan, Bernie and Marco.
Sure.
Way to go.
Marco's got a better chance of still making
it.
Way to go, 8-Ball.
OK.
Magic 8-Ball.
Here's a funny...

(02:56:53):
I have a wow clip, one of these
clips that is not getting much coverage.
This is just too funny.
The South Africa court has sentenced seven Chinese
nationals to prison.
They were convicted of trafficking dozens of Africans
and forcing them to work in a factory.
NGD's David Lam reports.
A court in Johannesburg, South Africa, has sentenced

(02:57:15):
seven Chinese nationals to 20 years in prison.
They were convicted of trafficking 91 individuals from
Malawi and forcing them to work at a
cotton fabric factory in South Africa.
The group was convicted in February for crimes
committed from 2017 to 2019.

(02:57:36):
Police raided the factory and arrested the defendants
in November 2019.
Authorities said they found the Malawian victims confined
in inhumane conditions with armed guards controlling their
movements.
The factory had a high wall and razor
fence.
But I want to say to our people
as well, they must know that we're taking
these issues very serious.

(02:57:58):
Government is working every day towards rooting out
all these issues.
Prosecutors said the victims were forced to work
11-hour shifts, seven days a week, without
safety equipment.
The South African Department of Labor expressed support
for the sentence and urged greater collaboration among
government agencies to help end human trafficking.

(02:58:20):
Slavery.
In Africa.
No.
Gambling?
Of course.
Well, I thought that was an interesting story.
No one's gonna...
You know, by the way, we have rapid
developments.
Rapid.
Oh, you're looking at the quad box.
The quad screen says rapid developments.

(02:58:43):
It looks like this, the guy who they
have been posting the picture all morning, like
he was one of those people that Charlie...
What's the term you used?
With a P?
Prolemicists.

(02:59:03):
He polemicized that guy.
Yeah, because he always made people look foolish.
Yeah, well...
He looks like one of those guys.
Could be.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, I could imagine somebody
getting irked and being made a fool of.
But I always thought it was...

(02:59:23):
There were the people that were...
Some of the dumb stuff people came up
with with him is just ridiculous.
He was easy.
It was easy pickings.
Well, what do you mean?
You think they caught the guy?
I don't think so.
Soon, new Trump comments on Charlie Kirk.
I don't know.
By the way, it's the same people that

(02:59:44):
you love bringing on TikTok to the show.
It's the same people.
No, different people.
Okay, same category, same level, same caliber.
Well, I don't have anybody on the show.
I don't have one TikTok clip on this
show.
Well, you have an EBT complainer woman.

(03:00:04):
Oh, wait a second.
Here we go.
Oh, good Lord.
Good Lord.
Okay, we'll play that.
I had to cancel my vacation with my
family because where we were going to go
and vacation at, they have already stopped certain
things of being able to be purchased with

(03:00:24):
EBT.
Well, because of this, that would mean I
would have to buy the majority of my
family's food out of pocket.
And that would dig into my money I
have for fun things.
So I had no other choice but to
cancel the trip.
My family is so sad about this, and
so am I.

(03:00:46):
I don't understand why people want to control
what other people buy with their EBT.
Like, how is it your business what I
buy with my EBT?
And there it is.
There's the problem in America in a nutshell.
Right there.
Right there.
I can't use my EBT on vacation for
whatever I want to buy.
Isn't that emergency benefits?

(03:01:07):
Isn't that what that is?
Emergency?
It's a food stamps program.
For people who are in dire straits and...
Who need to eat food.
Who need food, yes.
But there it is.
Enough said.

(03:01:34):
Now, the people who support the No Agenda
show, of course, they're very, very different.
They understand how we all have to work
together.
And we would like to thank the people
who've supported us with their value for value.
$50 and above.
John has the list.
I do have the list.
It starts with our regular Dame Rita, who
came in with 109.11. She's in Sparks,

(03:01:55):
Nevada.
She's probably a Viscountess, we believe.
Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina.
105.35. Kate in Boise.
$100 and she says, I love you guys.
I love you too.
Thank you, Kate.
Love you too.
Scott Van Gelder in Barnstable, Massachusetts.

(03:02:19):
Nuts.
100.
Love every episode.
Kevin McLaughlin comes in with 8008.
He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America,
lover of melons.
And that's the boob donation.
Along with Anonymous in Mount Airy, Maryland.
He came in with 8008.
Sir Doherty in Stephen City, Virginia.
68.68. And that's a happy birthday call

(03:02:41):
out to Sir Nick somebody.
Josh Buford in Midlothian, Virginia.
64.30. George Souza in Turlock, California.
61.
Michael Natrin in Newark, Delaware.
61.
Well, these 61s, these are your birthday calls.

(03:03:02):
These are the last three birthday call outs.
I know.
It's beautiful.
Thank you all so much.
And there's Troy Sprague who comes in from
Lapeer, Michigan with a $61 happy birthday, which
was sent to Jay and I put happy
birthday.
What are you laughing about?

(03:03:22):
Well, it's happy birthday to you, but because
I guess looking back on it, I think
she thought it was him wishing himself happy
birthday.
So he's probably on the birthday list.
Well, he's going to be congratulated regardless.
That's pretty funny.
Jason Shepherd in Trinidad, Colorado.

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606 small boobs and along with Les Tarkowski
in Kingman, Arizona.
Sam Williams.
He's 6006 also.
Sam Williams in Davenport, Iowa.
55.
He's sending me and you a Chavette with
some real cool shaving, shaving shroop.

(03:04:06):
Oh, oh, that's cool.
Women tell me it smells great.
Okay.
I don't know what a Chavette is even.
Look it up.
Okay.
Kevin Ritchie, 5370.
This is a nighting that's coming up.
Yes.
I will read it.

(03:04:27):
In the morning, John and Adam, with this
$53.77 donation, I'm celebrating both my birthday
on September 11th, a show day, and the
completion of my knighthood.
Please dub me Sir 11 of 9 at
the round table where I'll just need a
Coke Slurpee.
For the longest time, I thought I was
the only one noticing the bias around us
every day until 2016 when I found you

(03:04:49):
too.
Thank you for keeping me sane and entertained.
Keep up the good work.
Please remember, everyone's got an agenda.
Kevin Ritchie, how right you are, brother.
Angela Kettle Hut in Rock Hill, South Carolina,
5377.

(03:05:11):
There's a birthday to Brian coming up beyond
the list.
Brittany Miller in Trinidad, Colorado, 5272.
These are actually $52 donors that are jacked
it up a little bit.
Bente, what?
Bente Heft Edlich.

(03:05:31):
Bente Heft Edlich.
And he's in Switzerland.
She, she, she, she, she.
She, Bente.
Oh, she's a she, yeah.
This is a police break for Dame Dane.
My mother has a cancer growth on her
liver and would very much like to survive
the operation and have full recovery.
She needs an F-cancer.

(03:05:51):
We're going to give her the $252.72
donation for the Swiss.
This is our second Swiss person today.
The Swiss are in demand.
Let me do that F-cancer for her
right now.
You've got Carla.
Of course we break for Dames.
Of course we do.

(03:06:11):
Eric Jirao, you think?
Jirao, Jirao, Jirao.
Jirao in Crestview, Florida, 5272.
Sean Veneman, Veneman, Veneman, I think, in Genoa,
Illinois, which they probably pronounce it Genoa, I'm
guessing, 5272.
But they do.

(03:06:32):
Stephen Trockets, or Trockels, Trockels in Sust, Deutschland.
Ah, 5112.
My family freaked out over drones entering Poland.
Wow.
Sister taking fast flight out.
Huh, interesting.
Hmm, bad, oh, bad idea, supply is back.

(03:06:58):
Bad idea, look them up on the internet,
5005, 5050.
Douglas Monk, and now we got the $50
donors.
This is a very short list today, actually.
Douglas Monk in Conkrington, Pennsylvania.
Roderick Brown in Mermaid, Prince Edward Island, Canada.

(03:07:21):
Oh, oh.
Rene Knig in Ultrescht.
Knigge.
Knigge.
Knigge.
Knigge.
Stephen Shoemake in Xenia, Ohio.
And last on the list is Tom, Tim,
Tim, not Tom, Tim Delvecchio in Blandon, Pennsylvania.
I want to thank these people for making

(03:07:42):
show.
We're two shows away from show 1800.
We're getting very, very close.
And remember- Wow.
How many podcasts have gone that long?
Well, there's more who have done more episodes,
like Omega Man.
I think he has- Yeah, well, you
do a daily, you can get it up
there quick.
I think Omega Man has literally done over
5,000 episodes.

(03:08:04):
Omega Man, who he donates to the show.
Omega Man is out of his mind.
He does, he's done 5,000 episodes.
I don't know if he's been around as
long as we have.
How long does he do a show for?
How long does the show run?
Three minutes, let's just say.
I think they're pretty long, actually.
Thank you very much to these donors, $50
and above.
And again, thank you to our executive and
associate executive producers for episode 1798.

(03:08:26):
Two more to go until 1800.
We appreciate you so much.
Thank you for participating in the grand experiment
known as Value for Value.
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Sir Lucas celebrates today, as does Kevin Ritchie.
Sir Joseph turns 68.
Sir Doherty wishes Sir Not Jake a very

(03:08:46):
happy one for the 13th.
Angela Kettlehut, happy birthday to her.
Her husband, Brian Kettlehut, who apparently sometimes she
annoys him, I guess, but he loves her
anyway.
And Troy Sirag, no birthday for you, but
I'll take it anyway.
Happy birthday from everybody at the best podcast
in the universe.
And now it is time once again to

(03:09:07):
welcome brand new Secretary Generals to the No
Agenda Show.
All hail to the Secretary Generals on the
No Agenda Show.
Whether he wants it or not, Sir Animas

(03:09:29):
of Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia becomes a Secretary
General today, as well as Sir Scobie.
Thank you again for all of your matching
donations.
And Sir, your honest mechanic also joins those
exclusive ranks of No Agenda Secretary Generals.
Congratulations.
All hail to the Secretary Generals, cause they

(03:09:50):
are the ones who need hailing.
All hail to the Secretary Generals on the
No Agenda Show.
And can they go to NoAgendaRings.com yet
to see their fine Secretary General certifications?
They can go.
I think you can fill out the form.
Yeah, OK.

(03:10:11):
Let us know what you want exactly on
it.
And these are going to be beautiful.
This is going to be some of the
best we've ever done.
We do have two knights to bring up
into the roundtable spectacular here.
If you could give us a blade.
Here you go.
There you go.
We need blades for this because these are
knightings that are official.
The queens and the kings, they do it.

(03:10:32):
So can we.
Matt Stevens, Kevin Ritchie, hop on up here
onto the podium.
Both of you have become knights of the
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And I'm proud to pronounce the KD as
Sir Matthew of the Lower Coastal Plain and
Sir Eleven of Nine.
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(03:10:53):
Gumbo, Parmesan and Albita, and a Coke Slurpee.
Does it get any easier than that?
Along with that, we've got Gases and Sake,
Vodka and Vanilla, Bong, Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling
Cider and Escorts, Jim, Gerald and Gerbils.
We've got Breast Milk and Papelmen.
Of course, we have the Mutton and the
Mead.
Welcome to the roundtable.
You also should go to NoAgendaRings.com.

(03:11:14):
Take a look at those fine knight and
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We'll send you out one that fits your
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There is a handy ring sizing guide right
there on the website and let us know.
We can send it to you.
And thank you for supporting the show and
welcome to the roundtable.
No Agenda Knights and Dames.
No Agenda Meetups!

(03:11:39):
Well, we do have the big meetup coming
up on Saturday.
The North Olympic Peninsula Last Minute Meetup.
It's a last minute meetup.
Why is it a last minute meetup?
Why?
Why is it a last minute?
Did they just decide they're going to do
something?
Exactly.
It'll be at 3.33 p.m. at
Bar Hop Brewing in Port Angeles, Washington.
Attending Mimi, Jay, and Brennan.

(03:12:03):
Sir Tim from the Squim will be organizing
this.
And thanks to the outstanding work of the
producers on the No Agenda show, I have
a copy balance, no less, of their promo.
In the morning, this is T.
Ryan Everett.
Wow, what a lead-in for this.
Oh my goodness.
Wow.
Wow.
All right.
Sir Tim from Squim, Commodore of the Port

(03:12:24):
of Angels.
And this is Mimi Smith-Dvorak.
No, that's fake news.
She doesn't sound like that.
It should be...
She does when she works the mic.
And this is Mimi Smith-Dvorak.
Behold is the Smith-Dvorak.
What is that?
A little like...

(03:12:45):
Well, you know, at any minute she'd go
back to just Mimi Smith.
If you don't put your cards right.
You know what she should run for office
with Smith is a better name.
Oh, okay.
And this is Mimi Smith-Dvorak, inviting you
to the first in a long, long time,
North Olympic no agenda meetup on Saturday, September
13th, which is just a couple of days

(03:13:05):
away.
So set your sat nav.
Or Google it.
I guess for you boomers, you can use
your phone book.
And join us at Barhop in Port Angeles,
not the one in Swim, but the one
in Port Angeles this Saturday at 333 p
.m. That's Saturday the 13th at 333 p

(03:13:29):
.m. at Barhop in Port Angeles, where protection
is connection or connection is protection.
One of the two.
I don't know.
Just don't get it on me.
Okay.
Hi, I'm Adam Curry, and I love listening
to Millennial Media Offensive.

(03:13:53):
I got punked.
So Eric PP, now we talked about this
audacity file.
So I posted in the chat, Eric PP
gets back to me.
I save it.
I don't listen to it.
Obviously.
Otherwise, I wouldn't have time.
I would have banned it outright.
That was probably the worst promo I've ever

(03:14:15):
heard.
And then No Agenda Millennial posts me a
copy and says, oh, I balanced it for
you.
And I know Eric PP very well.
I'm like, oh, well, maybe Eric PP didn't
have time.
So that's very kind of you, No Agenda
Millennial.
And punked me with a little No Agenda
Millennial promo right at the end of that.

(03:14:37):
Yeah, that was pretty good.
Outstanding work.
Outstanding.
That actually made that whole minute bearable.
Also on Saturday, the New Jersey Central Meetup,
We Drink and We Know Things Spooky Season
Edition, 2 o'clock at 3BR Distillery in
Keyport, New Jersey and the Northern Silicon Valley.
Get John out of the house meetup on

(03:14:58):
the 13th, which, of course, will be without
Jay, without Mimi, without Brennan, because they're all
doing a competing meetup.
That'll be meetup number 8333 P.M. Pacific.
Same time at Pizzeria Violetta in Oakland, California.
Go say hi to John, everybody.
And on Thursday, our next show day, Charlotte's
Thirsty Third Thursday Monthly.

(03:15:19):
I don't know how many they've done.
They've been doing this forever.
7 o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte,
North Carolina.
Thank you all very much for your meetup
courage.
And you can always go to noagendameetups.com
to find out where all of them are
taking place.
Connection is protection.
Yes, you can get some of it on
you, Mimi.
Don't worry about it.
These are the people who will be your

(03:15:39):
first responders in an emergency.
If you can't find Whitney, you go to
noagendameetups.com and start one yourself.
It's easy and always a party.

(03:16:00):
Man, you're going to have to have a
phone call after the show.
With Mimi.
About the promo.
Well, you know, they don't listen to enough
promos.
Do they listen to the show at all?

(03:16:22):
Well, she does, but I don't know how
much she pays.
It was Tim that decided to do the
promo.
Oh, wait a minute.
You mean Tim?
The guy who's talking in the background like
that?
Yeah, that's him.
That's very good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Man.
Oh!
That's great.
All right.
They'll love you for that.

(03:16:43):
Oh, yeah.
Just ragging on these poor people.
Hey, that's what we do.
Two ISOs.
She's my first.
I don't know what else to tell you.
And I have this one.
I mean, this is, this is balderdash.
Balderdash?
Oh, brother.
You got a better one?
I think so.
Yup.
That podcast was a humdinger.

(03:17:05):
Well, how can I compete with AI?
I'm all in now.
It's $40 billion worth of AI.
All right.
I'm going to do something that's a little
food and wine related.

(03:17:25):
Ah, we always love the fine and wood,
wood and fine.
The what?
The wood and fine tips of the day.
Wood and fine.
Yes.
I got to write that one down.
Wood and fine.
Sake.
Oh, oh.
Most people don't know how to buy sake.
In fact, I'm very happy you're doing this
because when we went out in Austin with

(03:17:45):
the former Hollywood executive, we went to a
very upscale sushi restaurant.
I think it's a neighborhood sushi restaurant, that's
what it's called.
And I ordered sake.
And there was a list that was so
long.
I'm like, just give me the Winter Warrior.
I had no idea what I was doing.
Yeah.
That would be normal.

(03:18:07):
Not for you, for everybody.
Yes.
Okay.
So what you're looking for when you buy
a sake, there's a couple of things that
I didn't have an obscure.
The tip is actually the obscure ending to
this little lecture.
You want to always get a ginjo, a
ginjo sake.
Ginjo is a G-I-N-J-O,
G-I-N-G-O, gingo?

(03:18:27):
A J-O.
You got it right the first time.
G-I-N-G-O.
Okay.
Yeah.
And if there's variations like daijin, a ginjo,
or there's other ginjos, it has to be,
any of those variations are fine.
They get better.
There's some better ginjos that are really elaborate,
but they're incredibly expensive.
But ginjo is your baseline.
You want to get a ginjo.

(03:18:49):
That means that's a sake that ensures it's
100% rice.
They don't put neutral spirits in like they
do the cheaper grades of sake.
A lot of them have that in there.
If it doesn't say ginjo, you're going to
get neutral spirits watering it down.
Just crap.
Okay, you want ginjo.
Now, the funny thing is, and I've only
noticed this over the years, and this is

(03:19:10):
an observation that has not been documented, but
it's an observation I made, and I made
it initially about 30 years ago when I
was at some event, and a Japanese guy
was there, and he gifted me a bottle
of sake.
And it was terrific, one of the best
bottles I've ever had.
I don't remember exactly what it was, but
I do remember one characteristic, and I've noticed

(03:19:32):
this over and over and over and over
again.
When I buy sake from Costco or I
buy, as long as it's ginjo, I buy
sake from Costco and I buy sake from
our local Tokyo fish market, if it's in
a blue bottle, it's always good.

(03:19:53):
I know this has not been documented by
anybody.
It's completely undocumented.
But I have observed this over and over
and over again over the years, and you'll
see there's a whole bunch of sakes up
on the wall, and one of them is
in a blue bottle.
And that's the one.
Just buy that and see what happens.
It's going to be good.
I have no idea if a Japanese sake

(03:20:15):
expert can come and back me up on
this, but I've always noticed that the blue
bottle sakes are always the best.
I don't know.
Well, I would love for Sir Mark and
Dave Astrid to chime in on this, but
I do not doubt you, and I'm always
going to say, excuse me, can I see
the bottle for this?
Can I see all the bottles?

(03:20:35):
Well, now when you're at a restaurant, they
usually, okay, when you're at a restaurant, the
sakes are generally in the big giant bottles.
Yes.
And the big giant bottles, which are, I
don't know, a liter and a half, or
no, they're like two liters, are huge.
And that's where they usually, most of the
sake, you get a lot of sake in
these big huge bottles.

(03:20:57):
Blue bottles are delicate.
So you won't find a big giant blue
bottle because the nature of it, I think
it's boron.
Oh, I've learned another tip.
Blue bottles are delicate.
This is another tip of the day.
Blue bottles are delicate, and that's why you
don't see too many blue bottles because they're
hard to make.
When I was inspecting the glass factory at

(03:21:18):
Pittsburgh Plate Glass, it used to be in
Oakland.
I got this lecture about, oh, we can't
do blue.
Oh, it's a pain in the ass.
They're brittle.
They're crappy.
We don't like making blue because it's a
boron or something that goes in there and
makes them brittle.
And so I've never seen a giant bottle

(03:21:39):
of even the same brand of sake in
a blue bottle.
They're always the brown bottle.
So you can't necessarily look at the bottle
in a restaurant because they're always going to
be these giant bottles that they use typically.
So you're going to have to just go
with Ginjo.
Ginjo it is.
There it is, his tip of the day.
A very handy one.
Look out for the blue bottle, everybody.

(03:22:01):
Green flies for you and me.
Just a tip with JCD.
And sometimes Atom.
Created by Dana Brunetti.
Well, there you go.
We conclude our broadcast day as we put
this genie back in the blue bottle until
Sunday when we return.
I'm sure there'll be something else to look

(03:22:21):
forward to or not.
Something will happen.
We'll know something.
Something always happens.
Something always happens.
Usually on a show day, but sometimes not
on a show day.
Be kind to each other and stay tuned
to the No Agenda stream.
We have, oh, this is a good one.
Who are these broadcasters?

(03:22:42):
It's episode 110.
Howard Stern speaks, but who's listening?
Well, that's a good question.
That'll be next on the stream or in
your modern podcast app.
We will be igniting the bat signal again
on Sunday.
End of show mixes from Kevin Drinker and
Jeffrey Crocker, who makes excellent use of that
$60 billion investment in AI with his own

(03:23:02):
lyrics.
And I am coming to you from the
heart of the Texas Hill Country.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain,
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
Please remember us at noagendadonations.com.
Keep the value for value going.
1,800 episodes coming up and 18 years
in the can.
Until Sunday, remember us at noagendadonations.com.

(03:23:26):
Until then, adios, mofos.
Ahoy, ahoy, and such.
He has got to pull the plug on
TV advertising immediately.
Let's start with the science.
Vaccination.
It is a chaotic situation.
I remember the freezer trucks behind Lenox Hill

(03:23:46):
Hospital where I work.
George, it feels like right now it is
a chaotic situation.
I'm right here on board.
There is no captain steering the ship.
And I know there's a lot of misinformation
and mistrust.
Well, one thing that should not be under
fire is vaccination and the public health story
success that vaccination has been in this country.
We know that it has saved millions of
lives.
We know that it prevents disability from disease.

(03:24:08):
We forget that polio can cause paralysis, measles
can cause brain inflammation.
So, if you get sick, it can result
in complications.
If you have vaccines for cancer, HIV, and
hepatitis, it could force advertising on the market.
It's a chaotic situation.
Hospital.

(03:24:30):
Hospital where I work.

(03:24:58):
Building it new, affordable light shining through.
Freeze that rent, let the people all stay.
Buses free to ride every day.
Groceries run by the city's hand.
A fair New York across the land.

(03:25:31):
Mom, darling.
Whoa.
And darling.
Whoa.
With child care.
Whoa.

(03:25:51):
And wages that rise.
We're reaching for bluer skies.
Whoa.
Stay strong for the working class pride.
Tax the rich, take the greed for a
ride.
Union jobs with a future to share.

(03:26:13):
A city that's truly fair.
The best podcast in the universe.
Adios, mofo.
Dvorak.org slash N-A.
Yup, that podcast was a humdinger.

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