1805 - "Hamburger Wine" - No Agenda Show

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Seed oils!
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Sunday, October 5th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1805.
This is no agenda.
Protecting you from social alchemy.
And broadcasting live from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number
6.

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In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's no
government shutdown.
Everything's working.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
In the morning.
Best thing about the government shutdown.
Best thing.
No chemtrails.
It's perfect.

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It's perfect here in Texas.
Chemtrail-free we are, I tell you.
That's because it costs money.
Yeah, of course.
It costs tons of dough.
Can't have that.
Yeah.
No, I mean, we won't notice anything for
at least another week, two weeks, maybe.
I mean, has anything really changed?
Except for a couple of the parks here
are closed, I guess.

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Oh, no.
Yeah, the national parks.
Yeah.
You have national parks?
What national park do you have?
I think that Lyndon B.
Johnson Park somehow is tied to the Park
Service.
The National Park Service.
It's not the Texas Park Service.
Lyndon B.
Johnson Park.
It sounds like a scam.
Well, all of Johnson City is pretty much

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a scam.
I'd say Johnson City was the epicenter of
scams during the Johnson years.
It's where Johnson had all his bag men
to go out across the country and collect.
You know, collect.
So let's talk about the shutdown for a
second.
Okay.
That's a good idea.

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Just so you know, I have some early
morning stuff from the Sunday morning shows when
you're ready, but you get going first.
Well, I just wanted to get this out
of the way.
Yeah.
There's a lot of shutdown threats.
There's a shutdown analysis.
Yes.
And then there is Kennedy's little diatribe.

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I hope I have it on here.
Yes, this is the shut down.
Oh, okay.
I spelled it wrong, as usual.
But this is Kennedy going off on Alcacio
Cortez.
Oh, always fun.
Basically, President Trump just said, we want you
to take some stuff out of the budget
that we think is wasteful.
And we did.

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And that upset the Congress.
She's entitled to be upset if she wants
to.
But that really upset the socialist wing of
the party.
And so we took out and here's what
they want us to put back in.
We found that under President Biden, they were
spending $3 million for circumcisions and vasectomies in
Zambia.
We took that out.

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The Congresswoman says, we're going to shut down
government till you put that back in.
We found $500,000 of American taxpayer money
for electric buses in Rwanda.
We found $3.6 million for pastry cooking
classes and dance focus groups for male prostitutes
in Haiti.
How can you not?

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Am I making this up?
It was in the budget under President Biden.
We took it out.
Congresswoman Alcacio Cortez and the socialist wing, the
loon wing of the Democratic Party says we're
going to shut down government till you put
it back in.
I'll just read you a few more that
we took out.
$6 million for media organizations for the Palestinians.

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$833,000 for transgender people in Nepal.
$300,000 for a pride parade in Lesotho.
$882,000 for social media mentorship in Serbia.
$4.2 million.
We took out the Congresswoman and the socialist
wing of their party says we got to

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put that back in for that open government.
$4.2 million for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender,
queer, and intersex people in the Western Balkans
and Uganda.
I could spend the rest of the afternoon
here.
We took all that out.
It upset Congresswoman Alcacio Cortez.
It upset the socialist wing of her party.

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And now that wing of her party and
the Congresswoman are threatening all other Democrats and
saying you've got to shut that government down
until we get what we want.
And part of what they want is to
add this kind of stuff back in.
And that's what this fight is all about.
Always a good soundbite from anybody in Congress

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during these shutdowns.
Yeah.
I mean, this used to be more common.
I mean, Rand Paul used to be notorious
for doing it.
Where is Rand Paul?
Rand Paul, there's no soundbites from him.
He's like not on the scene.
He's voting against, but he's voting with the
Democrats on this.
Of course.
He's the one guy.
Because he loves the transgender stuff.

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Like that's what it's all about.
We know that that's not true.
That's just, you know, it's fun though.
But those are things that benefit.
I think all that stuff is probably from
USAID.
Oh, for sure.
That's like I'm hearing him again.
And by the way, I also suspect that
$4 million, $3 million, all this money that

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supposedly goes to this and that is actually
going into somebody's pocket to do something else.
But you see, you're completely wrong.
It's not about this at all.
At all.
Your buddy, Manhans Welker.
Isn't that your buddy?
She's the hands.
Kristen, Kristen Welker.

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The one with the big giant black laborer,
Manhans, that one.
Manhans Welker.
She knows what this is really about.
That's only a 30 second clip.
We can get back to yours in a
minute.
And as you know, many Democrats have looked
at your move.
They say the House is not in session
because you don't want to swear in this
newly elected center.

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The Congresswoman, Democratic Congresswoman from Arizona, who would
be a critical vote to releasing the Epstein
files.
How do you respond?
Yeah, Epstein.
This has nothing to do with that.
It's another red herring.
The reason the government is closed is because
Chuck Schumer and 43 of his Democrat colleagues
in the Senate have decided now to vote
multiple times to keep the government closed.

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We need them to turn the lights back
on so that everyone can do their work.
This is all so tedious and boring.
It's the Schumer shutdown.
It's it's Trump shutdown.
Shit.
Shoot.
Shut.
Shut.
I think the Epstein shutdown is better.
It's better.
And that was right off the bat.
That was the top of the morning from
her.
Yeah, we all we all know her up

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with that.
Well, of course.
Some writer.
Yeah.
What else?
Like she has a brain.
No, you put that in there.
It's very funny.
It's good.
If you're going to have the Speaker of
the House get in with that one right
away.
We all know this is about Epstein.
We all know what's going on.
Mike Johnson.

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Well, here's a couple of there's a couple
of NPR clips just from yesterday.
Shutdown threats.
NPR.
There's a kicker in here.
Well, OK.
NPR Steven Fowler joins us.
Good morning.
Let's begin first with the threats to fire
for.
Hey, hey.
Yeah, I am sorry.
I forgot.
No, no, that's not what I'm saying.

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Yes, Scott.
Yeah.
I mean, when we have when we have
Scott Simon, you've got to warn me so
we can.
I usually put SS on the in the
clip title.
I just forgot.
Suffer and suck a dash.
I'm Scott Simon.
NPR Steven Fowler joins us.
Good morning.
Let's begin first with the threats to fire

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federal workers.
Has anyone actually been let go yet?
Well, so far, they're just threats.
Here's White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt speaking
to Morning Edition yesterday.
The president is meeting with the Office of
Management and Budget to try to understand what
agencies are essential, what agencies do not align
with the administration's priorities and values.
Here's the thing to think about, though, Scott.

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Any of these reductions in force or RIF
efforts that would come would have to be
from the leaders of these federal agencies.
President Trump can't make them happen, and neither
can Russ Vogt, the head of the Office
of Management and Budget.
RIF rules are pretty particular about the amount
of time and notice they have to give
before they can take effect.
There's also a lawsuit that's been filed from

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federal workers unions saying that the threat of
firing workers, especially during a shutdown, is illegal.
This goes right back to the Doge executive
order.
Yes, exactly.
And so and by the way, the threat,
supposedly, of firing is illegal.
Oh, the threat, not the actual firing, but

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the threat of it.
Oh, well, that's you're paying attention to the
words, as always.
They said.
Yeah, you're right.
I think that's I think is absolutely.
I think there's some it's I believe it's
hate speech.
It should be illegal doing.
They're suing, but there hasn't been any firings,
but they're suing anyway because of the threat.
It's the threat.
Yes.
So let's go to the here's the kicker.

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Hakeem Jeffries said this in an NPR interview
earlier this week.
Oh, sorry.
Trump administration has been out of control since
day one.
They've been laying people off since day one.
They've been firing federal employees since day one,
and they've been violating the law since day
one.
Doge's work to cancel contracts and direct agencies
to slash their workforce is an extension of

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Trump and votes long held belief that the
government should be smaller and spend less on
things they don't agree with.
Even as the White House has tried to
circumvent the spending and budgeting power given to
Congress, which Republicans have so far allowed to
happen, it's worth noting that agencies have been
hiring back hundreds of workers they let go
earlier this year, and Treasury data shows spending

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has actually increased instead of decreased.
What?
Maybe.
So we listen to all this bullcrap.
Yeah.
On and on.
Oh, they're firing.
Oh, and Jeffries goes on.
They're firing everybody.
We don't know what to do about it.
We're suing them.
And the government budget has gone up because

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they keep hiring more people.
Are you kidding me?
Well, the budget did go up.
It went up for the budget.
The ceiling went up, but the budget, this
is ridiculous.
They have done nothing.
Trump hasn't backed it off even an inch
or an iota.
Well, Doge has done nothing.
You're believing NPR now.
I mean, come on.

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We know they got at least 50 billion.
That's something.
That's something.
They want their money back.
What they want is all that other stuff,
you know, a trillion and a half dollars
of nonsense.
Stuff we definitely don't need.
Yeah, I get it.
Well, I get it.

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I get it.
There's two more clips that would be, you
can go do your thing.
Let's do shutdown analysis one.
Okay.
Where's this from?
Oh, NPR.
Okay.
The shutdown of the U.S. government.
Since Tuesday, the U.S. Senate has taken
up the same votes to fund the government
temporarily with continuing resolutions.
They still don't have the votes.

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Is there an agreement even on the distant
horizon?
Joined now by NPR congressional correspondent Barbara Sprint.
Barbara, thanks for being with us.
It's so good to have Scott back on
the machine.
Hey, thank you.
The Senate yesterday failed once more to advance
competing plans to extend federal funding and end
the shutdown.
How are those plans different again?

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Well, one is a GOP plan that has
already passed the House.
It would fund the government through November 21st.
Then there's a Democratic counterproposal as well.
That would fund the government through October, and
it includes an extension of healthcare tax credits
that were boosted up during the pandemic.
Those are on track to expire at the
end of the year.
Now, Republicans have said they'll negotiate on that

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point, but only after the government is funded.
Even then, Senate Majority Leader John Thune has
said it would not be a simple process.
We can't make commitments or promises on the
COVID subsidies because that's not something that we
can guarantee that they're the votes there to
do.
There were a few Democrats who did support

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the Republican proposal this week.
Has there been any more movement or are
the numbers tightening?
No, they are not.
It has been the same as that first
vote where we saw two Democratic senators and
one independent joining Republicans.
In fact, there's been so little movement on
any kind of negotiation between the two parties
that the Senate isn't even expected to stay

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over the weekend and do more votes.
Here's Thune yesterday when asked about the possibility
of weekend work.
Hopefully over the weekend, they'll have a chance
to think about it.
Maybe some of these conversations start to result
in something to where we can start moving
some votes and actually get this thing passed.
Who is this woman from NPR?
I'm not familiar with her.
I like her voice.
I like her voice.

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I've never heard her.
No, no.
She probably has a weekend substitute.
Well, she has a slick, suave, smooth kind
of a vocal thing going on there.
It's not your typical vocal fry.
It's an improvement.
I'm just saying it's an improvement.
Okay, well, I'll minimize these clips.

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You're offhanded way of saying they suck.
No, not at all.
Don't they also want NPR and PBS refunded
of that big whopping 1%?
Isn't that also part of this?
Yeah, yeah.
They have to have that money back.
Well, so shouldn't NPR disclaim and say part
of the demands are to bring us money?
So just so you know, you know, that

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it involves us.
They should have some kind of, what do
you call that?
Full disclaimer.
Full disclosure.
Full disclosure.
Yeah, they should say that.
I've been listening to NPR all day yesterday
to get some of these clips.
Oh my God, did you need to take
Advil?
I did.
But the point is, is no, they've never
said that once.
No, no, of course not.

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Of course not.
I mean, they'll do it when they do
like a story about John Deere.
They'll say something like, well, John Deere also
underwrites the show.
But, you know, here we're going to talk
about it.
But they didn't know.
They have not done that.
And they should have.
You're right.
Let's go with the second part of this.
The impasse is essentially this.
Because the Senate needs Democrats to reach that

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60 vote threshold to pass this kind of
bill, Democrats, who of course have very little
power as the party in the minority, say
that demanding that there be some kind of
negotiations between the two parties is appropriate.
Unsurprisingly, Republicans do not share that view.
They say Democrats are holding the American people
hostage via the shutdown.
Of course, in the meantime, the White House

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is proceeding with plans to cut programs and
spending, often it seems, in areas with lots
of Democratic voters.
What is the argument they make here?
Well, this is very much in line with
the administration's thesis when it comes to its
role in cutting programs and government workers.
Items on the chopping block include some transportation
projects in New York, the home state of

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both the House and Senate Democratic leaders.
Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt told our colleague Stephen
Skeap yesterday that the administration views that as
minority leader Chuck Schumer's fault.
They can't show up to work right now.
So that project is currently temporarily halted because
of Chuck Schumer's shutdown.
So Chuck Schumer did that to himself.
He did that to his constituents in New

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York.
And how do Democrats respond?
Well, Democrats have called this an intimidation tactic.
They've blasted a plan from the White House's
budget arm to fire federal workers instead of
temporarily furloughing them, which is usually what happens
in a shutdown.
Independent Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont said he
thinks that plan will backfire.

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And the idea that you have a president
who says, hey, your state voted against me,
we're going to cut funding for you.
That is not only illegal, not only outrageous,
it is unconstitutional.
Where is your head?
Where is your head?
These people are old and decrepit, and I'm
tired of them.
And it's fine if you say that about
me in 20 years.

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But right now, I'm tired of them.
And you know what they should do?
So the Democrats, they need something to save
face.
Here's what I would do if I was
the president.
I would say, OK, we'll give you your
circumcisions in Albania back.
We'll give you your LGBTQ pride parade in
Morocco, whatever it is.
We'll give you all that back.

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Are you happy now?
Is that really what it's all about?
Is that what you want?
Give them something.
They need something.
I'm sure that the climate change stuff is
what he's thinking of giving back or something
like that.
That's the art of the deal.
The art of the deal.
He has to give up something, sometime.

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Or will he just keep it going for
a month?
I think they should just keep it going
forever.
Well, shut down that Lyndon Johnson park.
By the way, you can still just get
in.
It's not like, oh, you just go in
and there's no gate guard.
You can't walk into the park.
They have a friend of ours and her

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friends that were all camping out here and
they came by last night, yesterday afternoon.
And I said, well, was the park shut
down?
Yeah, we had the code because we booked
it before the shutdown.
So we just had the code and went
right in.
The code.
They got a gate code.
Well, our ATC producers and our CBP producers...

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How about, wait a minute.
I'm thinking, why doesn't some entrepreneurial type have
the gate code and go stand there at
the thing and collect money?
Take money.
Put on a uniform.
Yeah, put on a hard hat and the
orange vest.
And a clipboard.
And a clipboard.
You're on the list.
I see it.

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Yep, you're on the list.
Hey, we should do no agenda meetups in
these parks now.
Yeah.
There's all kinds of good ideas.
Well, while this is going on, the president
has an interview scheduled to air tonight.
He's chosen, this time, he's chosen a different
network.
Typically, it goes for one of the big
three.
Now he's chosen OAN for his big interview,

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which I think is an interesting move.
The home of Matt Gaetz, although it's not
Matt Gaetz to do the interview.
And he's got some promises.
We also might make a distribution to the
people, almost like a dividend to the people
of America.
How much are you thinking for that, sir?
Well, we're thinking maybe $1,000 to $2
,000.
Be great.

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Inflation is completely stable.
It's around target rate.
And the country is ultimately taking in unprecedented
amounts of tariff revenue, more than $200 billion
at this point in time, sir.
What do you believe this extra source of
revenue can be put towards?
And how big of a game changer is
it for your administration?
Well, ultimately, because we're talking about just kicking

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in.
They're just starting to kick in.
But ultimately, your tariffs are going to be
over $1 trillion a year, in my opinion.
We're going to do something.
We're looking at something where, number one, we're
paying down debt, because people have allowed the
debt to go crazy.
But with growth, with the kind of growth
we have now, the debt is very little,
relatively speaking.
And we're going to grow our way out

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of it.
You grow yourself out of that debt.
It's not a question of paying it.
You grow yourself out.
And the numbers are so much bigger than
they ever were.
The numbers we have now are bigger than
they ever were.
So when you have $36 trillion in debt.
How many times have you seen- What?
Stop.
Yeah.
He has this tendency when he's- Bigger
than ever.
Bigger than ever.
When he's full of it, just to repeat

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the phrase.
It's bigger than- So if you back
it up, he says, the numbers are going
to be bigger than ever.
They're going to be bigger than ever.
They're going to be bigger than ever.
He keeps saying the same thing.
And he'll say it twice, at least.
I think he's saying that the debt numbers
are bigger than ever, which is- Grow
yourself out.
And the numbers are so much bigger than
they ever were.
The numbers we have now are bigger than

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they ever were.
So when you have $36 trillion in debt
a year ago or two years ago.
And you have a lot less revenue coming
in.
Then you have 37 or 38.
It's not 38 yet, but it will be.
And the numbers are so much bigger.
All of a sudden, 38, you're under levered.
Whereas for 36, you were highly levered.

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We're not highly levered anymore.
Now, with that being said, we'll pay back
debt.
We're not highly levered anymore.
He should say, you know, the checks should
be giant checks.
Did you know that Publishers Clearinghouse went out
of business?
Yeah, it's been for a while now.

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A couple, I think they went bankrupt.
Yeah.
And they pulled the plug on all these
people that were collecting monthly benefits.
Yes.
And some company bought them.
They're going to reinstate under a new name.
But the people who got screwed are not
going to get any money.
You're done.
Yeah.
That's why you always take the cash out.
You've got to take the cash.
So I'm listening.

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They don't give you the cash out.
You can find some financial operations to give
you callers.
Get a caller.
So this is going on.
And I read on CNBC.
I thought I misread that.
Well, I did misread the headline.
I thought it said Treasury Ways minting.
I thought it was going to be a
$1 trillion coin.
Treasury Ways minting $1 trillion coin with Trump's

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face for US 250th anniversary.
And then I realized it's a $1 coin.
I was excited.
I'm like, oh, the trillion dollar coin is
back.
They're going to mint a coin with Trump's
head on it?
A dollar coin.
It has his head on profile.
Liberty.
In God We Trust, 1776.

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On the other side.
I thought that was like illegal.
Or it was always assumed that you didn't
do it when the guy was alive.
It's a commemorative coin.
So you can do that.
They're all, yeah, well.
Yeah.
And the other side will have the iconic
photo of him and the flag and fight,
fight, fight.
No.
Yes.
Yes.

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That's corny.
It's a draft.
A draft picture.
Of course it's corny.
But, you know, is putting your opponent in
a sombrero any less corny?
Well, no, that's funny.
And it's gone out of control.
There's like, there's at least 20 new ones
out there with different sombreros.
They're dancing.
They better come out with the stable coin

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gambit pretty quickly.
They got to start launching that.
I don't know.
I don't know what the plan is.
But if you want to spread our debt
to the rest of the world, you got
to get that going.
Meanwhile, Senator Tammy Duckworth was on CBS Face
the Nation with Margaret.

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And this was actually kind of, I didn't
know how annoying I thought she was.
I think, you know, because you look at
her, she didn't she have, she's a veteran.
So she, I think she lost a leg
or did she lose two legs?
Something like that.
So, you know, you never really pay attention
to her because you look at her like,
oh man, I feel bad for her.
And thank you for your service.

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But when you listen to her in audio,
it's like, ugh.
So she's talking about what's going on with
the guardsmen in Chicago.
So I have to ask you about what
the president announced yesterday in regard to federalizing
300 National Guardsmen out in the state of
Illinois.

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We've heard this threat going back all the
way to August.
The governor says these are not needed.
Do you have any idea when they'll arrive?
Well, I believe they're going to be Illinois
National Guardsmen.
So they're not going to be coming from
out of state.
I spoke with our governor yesterday and it
looks like it's going to be about 300
Illinois Guardsmen.
She sounds a bit like Macy Hirono.
Except she talks a little bit faster, but

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she has the same kind of intonation as
from Hawaii.
And probably just as dumb.
Who will be activated against the governor's wishes.
So they'll be homegrown Illinoisans.
And they're our brothers and sisters, our neighbors.
I probably served with quite a number of
them.
Certainly the leadership.
Probably not.
And, you know, they'll be home.
We'll welcome them.

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It's a misuse of the National Guard.
They're not needed in this particular role.
President Trump really wanted to fight crime, then
maybe you should stop defunding the police.
He what?
This is my favorite bit.
So Trump is now defunding the police.
This is great.
And then maybe you should stop defunding the
police.
He, you know, he diverted $800 million in

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crime prevention efforts away from that was appropriated
away from funding for our police officers.
So, you know, I don't know why we're
going to welcome them because they're our brothers
and sisters and we're proud of our National
Guard.
And if you look at the Chicago budget,
the number one expenditure is police, which is
kind of crazy because they're not doing a

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great job.
Most people think.
And most of the anarchists in Chicago, I
know a couple, they want to defund the
police.
They hate the Chicago police.
They hate them with a passion, which kind
of reminds me.
Back in the days, was it Mad Magazine
or Cracked?
I think it was Cracked, probably.

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They always had the Chicago cops always portrayed
as these horrible, you know, brutes.
Was that Cracked Magazine?
Am I thinking about the right, the right
magazine?
Don't be mad, it just doesn't matter.
Yeah, there's brutes.
But they're notorious.
I mean, I lived in Chicago when I
was a kid and then you, my parents
were from Chicago.

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And you find out certain things like, for
example, on the, there's a bunch of, you
know, bribing the cops is always considered the
thing you always do.
And it's always done the same way.
You keep your driver's license in a little
cellophane pack and there's a $100 bill tucked
behind the driver's license.
And so when you get pulled over for
some, it's usually something stupid.

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And it's usually, there's a good element of
this taking place on the route to the
airport.
And it's the funniest thing that's happened.
One time I was.
A new story.
Something we haven't heard yet.
I was driving to the airport and a
cop pulls me over for doing 36 in
a 35 zone or something like that.

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Yeah.
You know, I was sure you were speeding.
He says, there's this driver's license.
I showed him the license.
He looked, took one look for, he took
a look and he flipped it over to
see if there was any money or anything
attached.
But then he saw it said California.
Oh, yeah.
And he figured I didn't know what the
hell I was doing.
I didn't know how to bribe him.
And so he just gives me the license
back and says, move along.
Got rid of me.
You're wasting his time.

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Tina got pulled over the other night.
By a DPS, Department of Public Safety.
So I think the highway patrol falls on
the DPS, but it wasn't highway patrol.
And she got pulled over.
And I know my wife, she's, she's a
rule follower.
It's like you were speeding.

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She says, no, I wasn't.
And he's shining the light in her eyes.
It's a Friday night.
So, you know, they expect people to be
drunk on the roads.
Fair enough.
He's like, yeah, you were speeding.
You don't have a front license plate.
This is a big deal in Texas.
There's this ongoing fight.
Like, we don't want it.
We don't want front license plates for some

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reason.
And most cars don't really have a spot
for it if you buy them in Texas.
And so he gave her a warning.
Like, how could you prove that she was
speeding?
She had no proof.
Harassment.
Harassment of a pretty girl, of course.
So no payoffs here.
Try that.
I wonder if that'll work in Texas.

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Try and pay off a cop.
I don't think that'll work.
Anyway, we continue with this lady about what's
happening in Chicago.
He has surged.
The federal government has surged agents from different
groups.
The FBI said yesterday they're sending folks in.
Tell me about these protests, because the images

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look pretty intense of what has happened between
people on the streets of Chicago.
We're showing some of that video now around
immigration issues.
As I understand, yesterday, ICE authorities shot a
Chicago woman in the Brighton Park area.
Secretary Nome claimed ICE fired defensive shots at
this woman who was armed, who had appeared

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in a Border Patrol intelligence bulletin previously.
She claims that federal agents were surrounded and
were threatened.
What are local authorities telling you about what
they think happened here?
Well, they lie, right?
The Trump administration lies.
We have a president who's a known liar.
And I'm questioning if this isn't Macy Hirono.

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How can this be?
I mean, that's not Macy Hirono.
Macy Hirono, you're correct.
She talks slower, and she has more of
a sing-song voice.
And she is incredibly—and she just sounds dumb.
Is this a milieu, maybe?
A milieu thing?
Well, the Hawaiian accent is very noticeable.

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It's also very reminiscent of various American Indian
tribe accents.
It up-talks a bit.
It can be slow and plodding.
It's a plodding accent.
It can be extremely annoying, and it can
sometimes sound stupid.
Bingo.

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They've been lying about the situation all along.
And in fact, they even shot tear grenades,
tear gas grenades, I think, at a reporter
who was simply driving by with her window
open.
And so we're urging people, we're urging our
protesters, remain calm, peaceful protest, exercise your First
Amendment rights, but videotape everything.
Everybody has a phone.

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Tape everything so that we actually have real
evidence of what is happening.
We know the Trump administration lies consistently.
And what I am hearing is that, for
the large part, people are being very quiet,
are being very respectful.
But ISIS is being very aggressive.
Remember that they are zip-tying children.
Children!
They are raiding apartment blocks in the middle
of the night, separating children from their families,

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pulling people out onto the streets naked.
Whoa!
They are using— —exemplar tactics in Chicago.
And this is what Trump wants to do,
right?
He wants to intimidate the people of Chicago.
That's not going to happen.
And we're going to document everything and make
sure, just as the judge in Portland said,
that these requirements, these orders from the Trump

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administration are not actually tied to reality.
Okay.
So I think this is really just a
lead-in.
And there is a form of get comfortable
with it, Chicago and Memphis and Oregon.
Get comfortable with it because we're going after
crime.
And I've been doing a little bit of

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looking around here and there.
And I found this clip of Stephen Miller.
And it kind of fits— Stephen Miller, the
guy, the Trump administration guy?
Yeah, that guy.
He has a tick—he has Tourette's, by the
way.
Oh, he's a brother.
His tick—I can tell you what his tick

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is and people can start to look for
it.
Yeah.
He has—his head will be talking to you
and then he will have an uncontrollable jerk
of his entire head down about, I'd say,
a quarter of an inch and over to
the right.
Always to the right.
His right.

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Okay.
About another quarter of an inch.
So he'll do it when he gets a
little nervous, he'll start to do it.
And he can do it two times in
a row.
But it's an obvious—and I consider myself an
expert on this, having worked with somebody for
almost 20 years who has Tourette's.
Who would that be?
But also I saw that long documentary and

(32:06):
I've kind of considered myself an expert.
You're an expert.
But I spot this stuff and if you
see it, once you see it, you'll agree
with me.
Yes.
Well, so there's hope for me in politics.
That can have a job in the White
House.
Here's what he said.
To the Memphis Police Department, to the officers
that I see sitting in front of me,
we are about to provide you with a
level of support you cannot even imagine.

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This isn't just a task force.
This is an all-of-government, unlimited support
operation.
ATF, DEA, FBI, ICE, Department of War, every
resource we have.
And they're not going to be sitting behind
a desk at a keyboard.
We are sending in real cops with guns

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and badges to go out with you on
the street every single night making arrests.
These are people who have taken down drug
cartels, kingpins, the worst criminal offenders in the
United States, standing with you shoulder to shoulder
to shoulder.
All we ask from you is to show
up at roll call every single night with

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your brothers and sisters in the federal government
and to go out and get the criminals
off the street.
And if you do that, I pledge to
you, we will liberate this city from the
criminal element that has plagued it for generations.
This is not just a strategy shift.
This is an attitude shift.
We are not going to live in an
environment anywhere where there is a street that

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belongs to a criminal, where there is a
neighborhood that belongs to a gang, where there
is any physical space anywhere that belongs to
anyone other than the law abiding citizens and
families of Memphis.
The idea that there is a square inch
of block in this city where a citizen
doesn't feel safe is unacceptable.

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This is Memphis.
This is the United States of America.
And all that bullshit is done.
It's over.
It's finished.
There's your Tourette's right there.
Bullshit.
So this is actually part of something much
bigger, I believe.
And I'm going to get to the North
Sea Nexus on this one.
We heard this mentioned a while back during

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maybe one of those, I don't know, A
.G. Barbie things where they all of a
sudden, Kash Patel started talking about Operation Summer
Heat.
Do you recall that?
I think we know.
I can't keep track of all these operations.
Well, so this op has been going on
for the summer and here's Kash Patel to
bring us up to speed.

(34:40):
As I said, this is breaking news.
We've kept it quiet for the summer.
Operation Summer Heat was a three month surge
by the FBI with our state local partners.
We start at the end of June and
we just wrapped up at the end of
September.
And what we did was follow one theme,
crushing violent crime.
One of this administration's key priorities.
And we went into every single field office.

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We have 55 field offices scattered across the
country.
And today we're going to unveil the results
of Operation Summer Heat.
And what law enforcement can do when you
let good cops be cops.
I think a quick historical analysis is important
here.
You have to recognize that there was an
explosion in violent crime and it didn't happen
in a month or six months.
It happened over the course of years due
to the prior administration's laxicodasical approach against crime.

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Did he say laxicodasical?
It's a new one.
Course of years due to the prior administration's
laxicodasical approach against crime and violent criminals took
advantage of that.
So the FBI, under my leadership, we came
in and said, OK, violent crime is exploding.
Everybody knows that.
We see that.
You can't walk around these cities anymore.
People are getting shot.

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Kids are getting shot.
Drugs are killing our youth.
We need to do what the FBI is
best at and crush violent crime.
So we targeted all the major cities in
the country.
You can't just walk into a city and
say, OK, there's 150 law enforcement officers here.
Let's go arrest people.
You have to build a ground game of
intelligence that takes months.
That's what we did in Memphis.
That's what we did in Chicago.
That's what we did in New Orleans.
And that's why at President Trump's direction, we

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went in quietly months ago into these cities
to set phase 01.
Now we're going in with the Guard to
complete that project.
And that's the beauty of operations like Summer
Heat.
OK, so they've been at this for a
couple of months.
They've been setting it up.
And of course, this is in large part
about drugs, because that's what most of the
gang activity is related to.

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And here are the results so far.
Summer Heat had 8,700 arrests.
In three months, Summer Heat had 2,281
firearms seized permanently off our streets.
Three months, fentanyl, 421 kilograms.
By the way, that's enough to kill over
50 million Americans.
50 million.
On the low end, that's a conservative estimate.
Lethal doses off that seizure.

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45,000 kilograms of cocaine.
We conducted operations that led us to 2
,000 indictments and 1,400 convictions.
And the bulk of that work came from
our violent crime and gang forces.
I want to highlight that because that was
the focus of Summer Heat.
6,500 of this casework came specifically out

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of that.
And here's something that's not on this chart.
Operation Summer Heat found and located almost 1
,000 child victims and returned them to safety.
Sexual trafficking?
Victims of sexual trafficking.
Victims of home abuse.
Victims of rape and violent crimes against children.
So a couple of people sent me this

(37:31):
Substack article about how Trump is rolling up
the drug scourge once and for all.
And it was very interesting because it points
directly back to the city of London and
really the Panama Papers, interestingly, about how there's
$50 to $75 trillion that has been made
through drug trade.

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A lot of that, of course, went to
our streets.
You know, we typically, oh, fentanyl, blame China.
But if you really, and we've always looked
at the, you know, I think I've said
many times in the past, if you stop
the illegal drug trade, our country would collapse.
You know, the economy runs on drugs and
probably most, the world economy runs on illicit

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drugs and to some degree on legal drugs,
certainly here.
We got everybody on some kind of drug.
And as I'm thinking about, we're also, we're
now in season six, last season of Downton
Abbey.
This is 1925 now.
You kind of look at the royal extensions

(38:36):
of the royal family, the British elite and
their houses are starting to crumble.
They're running out of money because they never
worked.
You know, how'd they get the money?
Well, they were all part of the East
India Company.
And of course they had the opium wars
on China, which is their favorite way of
doing it.
You know, they hooked, what was it?
40 million Chinese on opium.

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They transport all the slaves to the new
world.
As an aside, very prominent in the series
is the hatred for the Jews and for
the Catholics.
Of course they were Irish Catholics and hated
the new world success, which, you know, it's
only been a hundred years.
And as I've said, I don't think that
has stopped that hatred of our success.

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So they continue what they're very good at
is the drug trade.
And, you know, maybe we can screw America
this way.
And I got three clips here from my
favorite old ladies, Promethean Action, who gave us
a little rundown on the concept from the
North Sea Nexus.
And we start with a famous guy, Bertrand
Russell.

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Can you give me a little background on
Bertrand Russell?
Yeah, Bertrand Russell was a, who lived to
be about a hundred and made the claim
that he didn't like eating meat because it
was eating a corpse.
Oh, I thought you meant that he'd rather
eat a corpse.
No, I understand what you're saying, yeah.

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And he wrote a lot of plays and
was a top notch, one of the top
intellectuals out of the UK.
He was considered the creme de la creme
of the great thinkers.
So I could have read this, but the
Promethean Action ladies, they read it for us.
So here's a little excerpt from Bertrand Russell.

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I just want to talk about three people
today, Bertrand Russell, Aldous Huxley, and George Soros.
The three of them together described the cultural
attack our nation has suffered since our elites
declared the post-industrial society in 1971 and
sold us out.
By the way, 1971 is an interesting year.

(40:43):
That's the year we got off the gold
standard.
I just wanted to mention that I found
that to be very coincidental.
Here's Lord Russell in 1951 in his work,
The Impact of Science on Society, describing the
future as he saw it.
I think the subject which will be of
most importance politically is mass psychology.

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Its importance has been enormously increased by the
growth of modern methods of propaganda.
Of these, the most influential is what is
called education.
The subject will make great strides when it
is taken up by scientists under a scientific
dictatorship.
Sounds like Common Core and Bill Gates to
me.
The social psychologists of the future will have

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a number of classes of school children on
whom they will try different methods of producing
an unshakable conviction that snow is black.
Various results will soon be arrived at.
First, that the influence of the home is
obstructive.
Second, that not much can be done unless
indoctrination begins before the age of 10.

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Third, that verses set to music and repeatedly
intoned are very effective.
Fourth, that the opinion that snow is white
must be held to show a morbid sense
of eccentricity.
Sounds very familiar to me when I hear
all these things.
You know, break up the home.
I like the song thing.
I should do a little note on the

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side.
Please do.
Which is, if you've ever visited, well, nobody
does, but I was at Scott Adams' house
and I noticed that he never has any,
of course, I don't.
I have, in my house, I have-
Classical music.
24-7 classical music.
I have music playing in my house, 24
-7 classical music.

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And it's for various reasons.
It's good for you.
One thing, the low notes keep varmints out.
That's for one thing, especially if you have
a couple of 15-inch subwoofers.
Wait a minute.
Hold on a second.
You'll never have problems.
The low notes keep the varmints out?
Bugs or mice and rats?
Bugs.
Bugs.
So, this is a tip of the day.
That's a good tip, by the way.

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Classical music will keep bugs out of your
house.
Okay.
Well, if you have, yes, but I'm using
some down thrusting 15-inch woofers in the
house.
That's what you want.
It creates a subsonic sound that the bugs
don't like.
And does it matter?
Can it be Vivaldi or does it have
to be Wagner?
We have a couple of classical streaming stations.

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I just play everything, all the classical music.
And also, they can't hear the cries from
the basement, which is kind of good.
Yeah, they're very useful.
And so, Adams never has any, I said,
I don't know how it came up in
the conversation, but he says, no, it's just
all, he says, you shouldn't play music because

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it's all propaganda.
He's not talking about classical.
He's talking about pop music.
People are always playing, you know, they got
their headphones on, they're all popping around.
And he's of the opinion that it's all
subconsciously designed propaganda, that you should not be
subjecting yourself to 24-7, especially, you know,
if you're going or floating around.

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And that's what I think is what Bertrand
Russell said there in his commentary.
Well, especially the beats part.
I mean, listen, I mean, there's a whole
category of songs about smack your bitch up
and, you know, killing each other.
And, you know, it's called hip hop.
It's a lot of violence.
It's called modern hip hop.
It's very violent.
So, and it's definitely with beats.

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Okay, so that's one.
Aldous Huxley, of course, no stranger to the
show.
Aldous Huxley was part of Russell's nest in
British intelligence, along with the same Ms. Alyssa
Crowley.
He played a huge role in the 1970s
counterculture.
Speaking to a 1961 conference sponsored by the
Voice of America, Huxley said the following, there
will be in the next generation or so,

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a pharmacological method of making people love their
servitude and producing dictatorship without tears, so to
speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp
for entire societies so that the people will,
in fact, have their liberties taken away from
them, but will rather enjoy it because they

(44:58):
will be distracted from any desire to rebel
by propaganda or brainwashing or brainwashing enhanced by
pharmacological methods.
And this seems to be the final revolution.
And I'd say that's spot on.
I mean, Adderall, Ritalin, the micro dosing of

(45:18):
ketamine.
I mean, all of this is going on.
And that kind of folds into Neil Postman's
amusing ourselves to death, you know, because now
I'd say the pharmacological piece is one part,
but we also have the doom scrolling is
another part, which kind of shifts the responsibility

(45:39):
a little bit.
But I just thought, yeah, OK, that makes
sense that all those Huxley would say that.
And of course, we can't leave out the
mega Brit George Soros.
George Soros' career has been sponsored at all
times by major British financiers, including the Rothschilds
and the Queen.
He's played a major public role in implementing
this policy in the US and Latin America,

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along with the US and British governments.
From 1979 forward, Soros, through his Drug Policy
Institute, led campaigns for drug decriminalization and legalization.
When you hear someone say the war on
drugs is a waste of money and an
offense to personal freedom, that's the manufactured belief

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this campaign created.
In addition, Soros, the National Endowment for Democracy
and USAID led campaigns throughout Latin America to
overthrow nationalist governments and support the drug cartels.
This picture showing the head of the New
York Stock Exchange embracing Raul Reyes of the

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drug running FARC in Colombia speaks a thousand
words.
So if I look at the second Trump
administration's track records, you know, Department of Education,
USAID, now going after the drugs on the
street, but not just on the street.
This really hasn't gotten a lot of play
because of the shutdown.
It's gotten to play, and that's the drug

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boats from Venezuela.
Admiral, I want to ask you about, in
terms of Venezuela, you've seen those attacks, those
US strikes on boats that the president said
are drug smugglers, are drug traffickers, drug cartels.
What's your take on that?
Well, we always, people think of me as
the NATO guy, but I spent almost four
years as commander of Southern Command.

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I would have been in charge of those
operations.
As a commander, you're thinking, what are we
trying to do here?
I think what we're trying to do tactically
is knock down drugs.
We're trying to deter drug smugglers.
We're trying to send a pretty strong signal
to Maduro, and we're sending a larger signal
to Cuba and Nicaragua.
So I can see the impetus for all

(47:50):
this.
My concern would be, if I were the
commander right now, how strong is the evidence
that I'm holding in hand that can allow
me to consider these people enemy combatants?
We really haven't seen much of that evidence.
I think the administration would be wise to
release at least some of that so they

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can justify these kind of extremely aggressive military
strikes.
And just quickly, if you can, the legality
of this, he says that it is an
armed conflict with drug cartels.
It's right on the edge.
And that is why, see paragraph one, let's
get the evidence out, not the sources and

(48:31):
methods, but what are we basing this on?
And then let's also capture a few of
them alongside the more aggressive means because you
want the intelligence.
You want to be able to interrogate.
You want to be able to hold those
drug smugglers accountable in our court system.
So it's right on the edge.
It's really interesting the amount of people who

(48:52):
are pushing back on this blowing up the
drug smuggling boats.
You know, oh, well, you know, Trump's just
killing people willy nilly and this can't be
done.
And I'm like, why do I find it?
Well, I find the contrast to be interesting
here is because of what Obama did with
his kill list.
Yeah, one every Tuesday.

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And he would blow these guys up all
over the place in sovereign.
He wouldn't do it on the open seas.
He would be in a sovereign country, blow
up a bunch of guys.
And then he did, which was really disgusting,
was the double tap.
Yes.
Yes, exactly.
The minute they came back.

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When help came in.
Yeah.
When this when the as soon as they
said they blow up a pack, what he
said was a bunch of terrorists.
And, you know, may or may not have
been.
And he decides to blow them up.
He blows them up with the drone, with
a predator drone.
And he joked about it in one of
the correspondence centers about predator drones.
Blows them up and then they wait.

(49:54):
Wow.
So all the all the ambulances and Red
Cross or Red Crescent, whatever comes to help
these people, then they hit them again to
kill those people.
That seems a little more extreme, especially on
a sovereign nation than blowing up a boat
on the open waters, which they're making a
big fuss about.

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But let's come on.
Let's go back and be realistic here.
If we're going to be critical.
And of course, we saw some of that
in the in the videotape that Glenn Greenwald
got.
They also showed the video of the blowing
up of the terrorist cells.
Yeah.
Which, of course, was shut down real quick.
That's not talked about anymore.
Even by Glenn Greenwald, that's not talked about

(50:36):
anymore.
But of course, that didn't affect the actual
money, the drug money that I think a
lot of people that we're unaware of are
benefiting from.
So I was looking for some analysis on
this.
I found a report from Deutsche Welle.
We'll kick it off here.
The United States has announced that it has
carried out a new strike on a boat

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off the coast of Venezuela, the fourth in
recent weeks.
This one comes after President Donald Trump declared
that the U.S. is at war with
drug cartels.
He made the designation in a notice sent
to Congress on Wednesday, which has been seen
by multiple media outlets.
It says the president determined these cartels are
non-state armed groups, designated them as terrorist

(51:21):
organizations, and determined that their actions constitute an
attack against the United States.
Last month, the U.S. said it carried
out three deadly military strikes on boats in
the Caribbean in international waters near Venezuela.
It alleges that they were smuggling drugs.
The U.S. has also built up its
naval forces in the area and dispatched 10

(51:43):
F-35 aircraft to Puerto Rico, a U
.S. territory.
It's the biggest military deployment in the Caribbean
in decades.
The strikes have raised questions about whether the
U.S. military is legally entitled to kill
alleged cartel members under domestic and international law.
By declaring the U.S. is involved in
an armed conflict with the cartels, the Trump

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administration aims to provide a legal rationale for
its actions.
The attacks have also increased tensions between the
U.S. and Venezuela.
Venezuela's left-wing authoritarian president, Nicolas Maduro, has
accused Trump of a covert bid to oust
him.
The Trump administration accuses Maduro of being a
narco-terrorist and a drug cartel leader and

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is offering a $50 million bounty for his
arrest.
So they bring in an expert on this,
Christopher Sabatini.
Listen to his resume.
Senior Fellow for Latin America at Chatham House.
A lecturer in discipline in the School of
International and Public Affairs at Columbia University.

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Spooks.
Also on the advisory board of Harvard University's
LASPAU, the Advisory Committee for Human Rights Watch,
America's Division, and of the Inter-American Foundation.
He's also an HFX fellow at the Halifax
International Security Forum.
You could not get a better guy to

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defend this.
You want to say something?
No.
Oh, here we go.
And to find out what exactly is going
on here, I'm joined now by Christopher Sabatini.
He's a senior fellow.
Yeah, let's find out exactly what's going on
here, shall we?
Let's get our information from this guy.
For Latin America at Chatham House.
That's an international affairs think tank based in

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London.
Mr. Sabatini, it's good to have you with
us.
President Trump says that the U.S. is
at war with drug cartels.
I'm wondering, first, what's the point of this
notice to Congress, in your opinion?
Well, frankly, this is an attempt to cover
their argument.
They're trying to demonstrate that this is a
war that legitimates, in their view, attacking civilians

(53:59):
without due process.
That whole line.
There is an interesting little milieu usage there
that I thought was interesting.
What's that?
The term that you normally use would be
legitimize, not legitimate.
Is that not just an anglophilian thing?
No, I don't think so.
There's something fishy about using that term.

(54:20):
Okay.
I just think it's a mark.
No, no, we'll mark it down.
I wouldn't look at it as a marker.
Marker.
Yep, marker.
Well, I don't think, I think his resume
kind of already told us.
Yeah, no, he's already marked.
But it's just another, you know, a marker
for others.
So he's actually going to push back again.
You know, so again, Department of Education, we're
getting the illegals out.

(54:44):
What's that?
USAID, hopefully going after the, what's the word,
democracy, the Endowment for Democracy.
Yeah.
All of these things are all bad for
America.
And so now we're going after the drugs
on the street and the supply lines, and

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Chatham House is having none of it.
Well, frankly, this is an attempt to cover
their argument.
They're trying to demonstrate that this is a
war that legitimates, in their view, attacking civilians
without due process, that in which they are
the equivalent of combatants in a war zone.
Questions have been raised across the aisle by

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both Republicans and Democrats that by declaring this
war on narco-terrorists, is the term they
like to use, it is in violation of
the War Powers Act.
And it is even in violation of international
norms because they're killing civilians without due process
and without them actually- Wait, wait.
I like the way he does this.
Another good one, another good bit he just

(55:46):
pulled, which is it's a violation of, not
in violation of international law, mind you, which
is a legitimate thing to complain about.
No, it was a violation of international norms.
Good point.
Good catch.
Which is meaningless.
Yeah, my norms.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The New World Order norms.
It's a violation of that.

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We don't do that.
And then he says the War Powers Act
- But the way you couch it, the
way you couch it, it makes it sound
like it's a violation of international law.
Right, but you say norms.
But also he's full of crap because the
president sent his letter to Congress.
He said, this is a war.
These are terrorists.
Here's my executive order, who I've all said
is a terrorist, including Antifa.

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And these guys are terrorists, so I'm going
after them.
So he's, I guess he has 60 days
or whatever, but he's within the War Powers
Act, which of course is super broad.
But, you know, that's beside the point.
And if they don't like it, they can
repeal it.
They don't do that.
Narco-terrorists is the term they like to
use.
It is in violation of the War Powers

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Act.
And that is even in violation of international
norms.
Good point.
Because they're killing civilians without due process, without
them actually being armed threats.
So he's trying to draw this.
I think it's a very loose and tenuous
connection between drugs and armed combatants, which, quite
frankly, a number of U.S. senators, again,
on both sides of the aisle, are not

(57:11):
quite buying.
OK, well, we'll pay attention to which senators
are not buying it.
Just get a list of those guys.
Yes, we'd like to know who exactly is
in with the British invasion here.
So how does Maduro fit into this?
You know, at the center of this U
.S. war on drug cartels is Venezuela and
its president, Nicolas Maduro.
Can you tell us what role do they

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play in international drug trafficking?
They're large international drug traffickers as a country.
They're not producers.
They're not producers at all of fentanyl.
Fentanyl, when it crosses the border in the
U.S., comes from Mexico, oftentimes from Chinese
precursors materials.
But in the case of Venezuela, what they
are, is they are a transshipment point for

(57:52):
cocaine that's leaving Colombia.
But they really only the cocaine that leaves
Venezuela, most of it's actually bound for Europe.
Only about 5% of the cocaine consumed
in the United States comes across Venezuelan airspace
or maritime space.
Hold on a second.
This guy seems to know a lot about
it.
He has percentages and everything.

(58:14):
Like airspace.
Are we going to shoot down planes now?
What is this?
I think that was highly unusual.
By the way, a little bit too granular.
This is not our main supply line.
This is just a little bitty bit.
Only about 5% of the cocaine consumed
in the United States comes across Venezuelan airspace

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or maritime space.
Most of the cocaine that enters the United
States comes from the Pacific or up through
the isthmus of Central America and through Mexico.
So this is really an attempt to try
to engage in another agenda that the Trump
administration has, which is to try to engage
in regime change.
To take out the Nicolás Maduro government.

(58:58):
They've named Nicolás Maduro and a number of
his- I love how all of a
sudden Maduro.
He's talking very much like a Venezuelan Maduro.
Associates in the government as being members of
the Carteles de los Sol.
Carteles de los Sol.
Carteles de los Sol, which is- I'm
here to collect my check.
Is a narco terrorist organization.
And they're claiming that that gives them the
license to effectively take them out.

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A little detour here for the Pentagon releasing
the video of the hit.
Tonight, the Pentagon releasing this video of a
deadly military airstrike on what officials say, without
providing evidence- Without any evidence!
Was a drug boat attempting to smuggle narcotics
into the U.S. The massive explosion sending

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debris raining down in international waters just off
the coast of Venezuela.
Flames shooting from the vessel.
Wow, so graphic.
The U.S. says four people were killed.
The president has directed these actions, these strikes
against Venezuelan drug cartels and these boats, consistent
with his responsibility to protect the United States

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interests abroad.
Secretary Pete Hegseth saying, our intelligence without a
doubt confirmed that this vessel was trafficking narcotics.
The people on board were narco terrorists.
Today's strike is the fourth known U.S.
attack on suspected Venezuelan drug boats since early
September.
We have proof.
All you have to do is look at
the cargo that was like it's spattered all

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over the ocean.
Big bags of cocaine and fentanyl all over
the place.
Big massive bags.
You all saw it.
And with the Trump administration has now told
Congress as rationale for the strikes that they
considered drug smugglers unlawful combatants with whom we
are involved in armed conflict.
But critics questioned the legality.

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Oh, the critics.
Oh, the critics.
We'll finish up with this Maduro shill here.
By the same token, they've also doubled the
bounty on Nicolas Maduro's head to $50 million.
So if you happen to have any information
to be able to turn him over to
U.S. authorities, you can make yourself a
quick $50 million.
That, by the way, is more than the
U.S. placed on the head of Osama
bin Laden.

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And it demonstrates a general trend across this
entire rhetoric and policy, which is hyperbolic.
It's unclear really whether cartel de los solos
actually exist as a hierarchical organized cartel as
it's being described by the Trump administration.
It's unclear what extent Nicolas Maduro.
He probably is very well aware of narcotics

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trafficking, flying over Venezuelan airspace and leaving Venezuelan
shores.
But it's unclear whether this is truly an
organized operational cartel with him sitting at the
head.
But that's very much what the Trump administration
wants to portray.
But again, UNODC, UN Office of Drugs and
Crime, as well as independent investigators really questioned

(01:01:48):
the logic and evidence that the Trump administration
is putting through to make these claims.
Everybody's in on this.
They're all in on the money train with
this, as far as I'm concerned.
And what's interesting is that we've blown up
four of these boats.
It really doesn't get the same amount of
play on mainstream media as the shutdown and
Epstein, of course, that's gone down a bit,

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Diddy, etc.
And online, we are obsessed with one thing
and one thing only.
Here's Nick Fuentes.
So who owns your mind?
Zuckerberg runs Meta, which is Facebook and Instagram
Jewish.
Alphabet, which owns Google and YouTube is run
by a couple of Jews.
Larry Page, Sergey Brin.

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That's YouTube, Google, Facebook, Instagram.
TikTok is now owned by Larry Ellison.
So that's TikTok as well.
Those are your social platforms.
Out of the big media conglomerates, you got
Disney, which is run by Bob Iger.
You got NBC and Universal, which are run
by Jews.
You have CBS, Warner Bros, Paramount Studios now

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run by David Ellison.
You've got the Salem Radio Network and Brad
Parscale working on behalf of Israel.
You've got Fox News, Wall Street Journal under
the Murdochs.
They're friends of Israel.
You've got Daily Wire, Prager University, Breitbart, all
run by Jewish editors, Jewish owners.
Are you starting to get it?
This is what this is so phenomenal.

(01:03:12):
He's on TikTok.
He's on YouTube.
He's on X.
He can say whatever he wants to say,
but somehow they're controlling your mind.
He goes on about the NBC and whoever
was he listed there, owned by Jews.
That's Brian L.
Roberts is not a Jew.
Is he kidding?
Well, he didn't mention Elon, friend of Israel.

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And Sergey Brin doesn't run Google.
That's Sundar.
No, he hasn't been doing...
Actually, I take it back.
Roberts was born into a Jewish family.
Ah, there you go.
So once again, the Jews are...
Every single day, John, I get emails.
Are you convinced yet?
Well, you should.
You should.
People, get him at curry.com.

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It's easy to remember.
Aren't you convinced yet that the Zionists run
our country?
Aren't you sure of it?
And at this point, and Nick Fuentes, I
mean, I don't know where he makes his
money or how he makes his money, but
that guy is some sort of an op
and people love him.
And he got Kanye in on it.
Oh, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews are
taking it all away from me.

(01:04:17):
And you can hate Israel.
You can hate the government of Israel.
That's fine by me.
That's okay.
But the danger is that we start to
all hate the Jews just like the Brits
do, which is why I think, you know,
it's my thesis, the Brits created the modern
state of Israel in the first place.
Send them all there.
We can blame them for everything and we'll
do stuff in the Middle East and get
our BP and all of our oil and

(01:04:38):
anything else we want.
And by the way, America has quite a
history of hating Jews.
I was watching a Dutch review, book review
of Mein Kampf, which was quite interesting.
And Hitler was a big fan of Madison
Grant.
Madison Grant wrote this book called The Passing
of the Great Race.

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And he was the chair of the New
York Zoological Society.
Zoological.
I said zoological.
I started to say zoo, but then I
said zoological.
Which later and today is now known as
the Wildlife Conservation Society.
Then he, you know, which is all the
green agenda, which is, you know, the whole

(01:05:22):
green thing that's totally functional fascism.
And if you look at the European Union
with Ursula, it's basically the Nazi party dream.
But my point is to say that we
get suckered into this stuff so easily.
And now it's become part of the podcast
grift.
I just have to say it because now

(01:05:44):
you have to do stuff.
Listen to this.
Was it podcast grift?
Yes, podcast grift.
I like that term.
Because you got to add in there that
obviously Israel killed Charlie Kirk and Israel is
to blame for it.
They run our country.
They run Trump.
They run everything.
So now if you do a podcast, you've
got to say stuff like this.
I would never.
This is Theo Vaughn, by the way.

(01:06:05):
I would never take my own life.
I'm grateful to God for his grace in
my life.
I love my siblings.
I have so many friends and people that
love me and people that I want to
see their children grow up.
I'm hopeful.
I'm hopeful that I get to have a
wife and meet my and meet my own
children one day.
Like there's a ton of things in my

(01:06:27):
life that keep me alive and hopeful, right?
I want to be able to have an
impact in the world.
Those are just a few of them, probably,
you know, I mean, so many just moments
we've shared on this show that I'm like,
oh, I live for those things.
Okay.
You hear that, Israel?

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This is what you've got to say.
Oh, it gets better.
Listen to this.
Here's Candace.
Well, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been very loud
about how she is against that.
She has grown increasingly vocal and she feels
the need, as she did a couple of
days ago, to publicly clarify that she is
not suicidal.
I mean, it's ridiculous, but we do all

(01:07:11):
have to say it.
If you have influence and you're speaking out
against Israel, you do have to kind of
make that statement.
We do have to make that.
This is why we don't make these statements,
John, because we're covering for Israel, obviously.
We're covering for the Zionists.
So this is the new grift.
I'm not suicidal when I talk out about
Israel.
Israel.

(01:07:31):
What is the benefit of taking this approach?
Because people are sucked up into hating Israel,
the Zionists.
They run everything.
It's rampant.
Dude, this has been going on for years.
Yeah, I understand that.
But what is the benefit?
I still don't understand the benefits.
I mean, besides not getting hate mail to
adamatcurry.com, which is, you know.

(01:07:55):
Well, it's audience capture.
Everybody wants.
Just go look at my x-time.
No, audience capture.
You might be right.
No, I'm completely right.
That's what it is.
Don't you see now that your donations are
going down?
Addicts Jones has been bleeding audience.
It's always the donations are going down because
they're not hating on people.
What they're saying is if you don't say

(01:08:17):
Israel is running everything, and we just don't
believe it.
We believe, in fact, quite the opposite.
And I'm going to, I think we can
prove that once again.
It's so obvious that they're not running everything.
They're not running anything.
In fact, there's a couple of clips.
Well, I got one more clip.
We'll get to that.
So, you know, the whole point is if
you don't think, if you don't think and
say out loud that Israel runs America and

(01:08:39):
all of our politicians through AIPAC, then you're
going to lose money.
So it's basically either I listen to what
you say and don't lose money or I
take money from Israel.
I mean, that's really the binary bullshit.
Where's your money from Israel, by the way?
Exactly.
Has it come in yet?
So Marjorie Taylor Greene, now she has a
good point because she is, she's, this is

(01:09:02):
her own grift.
She's playing on this in a very obvious
way.
And we know this from one of the
last things Charlie Kirk did with all the
Gen Z-ers.
They're all saying, look, look, we look, we
want, we can't pay our rent.
We, you know, it's a crappy situation in

(01:09:22):
America.
And why are we sending all this money
to Israel, which is $10 billion?
Let's say it's $50 billion.
I don't care what it is.
Why should we be doing that?
And of course, the answer is because that's
our military base in the Middle East.
Fine.
People can believe me or not, but that's
literally aircraft carrier in the sand is how

(01:09:44):
it was set up and what it was
called in the 70s.
We've played all the clips.
But if you look at the money we
send elsewhere, just the military in general is
a trillion dollars.
Look at the money we're sending all over
the world.
We sent 10 years worth of Israel money
to Ukraine.
Those flags drop pretty quickly.

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So Marjorie Taylor Greene is using this for
votes and for popularity, which equals votes.
And I can't blame her.
And but she is doing the same thing
as the podcast Grift.
Here she is with Matt Gaetz on OAN.
We got to talk about APAC attacking you,
sending out fundraising emails saying that you are
not acting in the interests of our country.

(01:10:27):
Marjorie Taylor Greene, your reaction to APAC's fundraising
emails attacking you?
Yeah, and Matt, I'll go ahead and be
straight and honest about this.
I'm absolutely furious.
And as a matter of fact, APAC needs
to register as a foreign lobbyist because they're
breaking U.S. laws by by donating to
members of Congress and by taking them on
a fully funded trip to Israel every single

(01:10:50):
freshman member of Congress this year.
They just took them over just recently and
had them meet with the prime minister of
Israel.
But let's let's let's frame that correctly.
They take them over to meet with the
secular government of nuclear armed Israel.
Israel, who is in less than 400 billion
dollars in debt.
Israel, who has taxpayer funded health care in

(01:11:12):
college.
Israel is not hurting.
And they've already proven that they are more
than capable of not only defending themselves, but
annihilating their enemies to the point of genocide.
And that's what's happening in Gaza.
And Matt, the reason why APAC is attacking
me is because I dared to tell the
truth.
As a matter of fact, I've been saying
America first for a long time.

(01:11:32):
But I'm getting to the point of saying
America only.
And I'll tell you why, Matt.
It's because pretty much if you're under the
age of 40, you have no hope for
the future.
We're 37 trillion dollars in debt.
People can't afford to buy a house.
They can't afford rent.
They can't afford insurance.
They can't afford their bills.
And we have HB1 visas stealing all these

(01:11:52):
American jobs.
And I'm sick and tired and fed up
with it.
So listen, if APAC wants to come after
me and accuse me of betraying my American
values, APAC, you know what?
You can bring it on.
I am totally ready for this.
And this is a fight that I will
fight.
And I will give it my all.
And I can guarantee you, you're going to

(01:12:14):
lose because America is fed up, Matt.
They're fed up to here with funding foreign
wars, funding foreign causes, funding foreign countries for
foreign reasons that have nothing to do with
Americans while Americans work their ass off every
day and pay their taxes and come home
and they're living.

(01:12:34):
Paycheck to paycheck and their credit cards are
maxed out.
I don't care anymore.
I honestly don't care.
So I'll burn this bridge to the ground
and I will let the flames light the
way.
And because this is a fight that needs
to happen.
So she is playing into feelings that are
rampant online, fueled, I'm sure, by ops like

(01:12:54):
Fuentes to blame it all.
Because when you blame it on Israel, it
goes right to the I've seen this movie
before.
It's happened many times in history.
It winds up with Jews getting killed.
Nice people everywhere in the world getting killed
is just how it always winds up then.
But she's pretending like it's it's it's Israel.
No APAC funded by the American Israeli Education

(01:13:16):
Foundation Foundation, which is funded by the military
industrial complex, the very the very thing that
President Eisenhower warned us about.
Yeah.
Lockheed, Raytheon, they funded.
They're the ones that are going in there.
Yeah, because it's money in their pockets.
And they're horrible, too, because there's oh, let's
do it under the guise of Israel.

(01:13:37):
Oh, you got to do it for Israel.
Play on your Christian values, blah, blah, blah.
But at the same time, you cannot deny
that President Trump is now very clearly in
charge of the situation with this Gaza deal.
In fact, let me just play.
I have clips, too.
I got two clips and then I'll be
done.
Here he is.
Listen to who he thanks for this deal.

(01:13:58):
I want to thank the countries that helped
me put this together.
Qatar, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, and so
many others.
So many people fought so hard.
This is a big day.
We'll see how it all turns out.
We have to get the final word down
and concrete.

(01:14:18):
Very importantly, I look forward to having the
hostages come home to their parents and having
some of the hostages.
Unfortunately, you know the condition they're in.
Come home likewise to their parents because their
parents wanted them just as much as though
that young man or young woman were alive.

(01:14:40):
So I just want to let you know
that this is a very special day, maybe
unprecedented in many ways.
It is unprecedented.
But thank you all and thank you all
to those great countries that helped.
We were given a tremendous amount of help.
Everybody was unified in wanting this war to
end and seeing peace in the Middle East.

(01:15:02):
And we're very close to achieving that.
Thank you all.
And everybody will be treated fairly.
Doesn't sound like a very pro-Israeli speech
to me, thanking all of the Arab nations.
And now he's out openly trolling Netanyahu.
Noga, good morning.
It seems things are moving full steam ahead.
And Donald Trump is continuing to pile pressure

(01:15:23):
on both sides.
He is.
He has not lost interest, Alison.
And it is interesting to observe so that
yesterday, hours after he posted on his Truth
Social media website, a sort of another threat
to Hamas saying basically get a move on.
You don't have a lot of time to

(01:15:43):
release the Israeli hostages or else.
Subsequently, he posted—he made two posts that are
sure to have severely irritated Prime Minister Netanyahu.
In one, interestingly, he posted an image of
the more than 100,000 Israelis who gathered

(01:16:04):
yesterday in Tel Aviv, who rallied to demand
an end to the war.
This is a weekly event in smaller numbers,
a daily event.
And somehow Trump has become aware of these
things.
It's the second time he posts—and it's important
to—you know, Netanyahu refers to these protesters as
enemies of Israel, as draft dodgers, in the

(01:16:25):
worst possible terms.
So that was an interesting thing.
And shortly thereafter, the president of the United
States posted a map of the withdrawal lines
that he proposes for this 20-point peace
proposal.
He announced unilaterally that Israel had agreed, thus
removing quite a bit of Israeli leverage in

(01:16:47):
the discussions that are going to start in
Egypt, the negotiations that are going to start
in Egypt as of tomorrow, as of Monday.
So it is interesting to see him not
lose interest and keep pressuring both sides basically
every few hours since he announced this deal.
Sombreros are coming.
That's next.
It's obvious who's running the show here.

(01:17:09):
It's so obvious.
But OK.
All right, what you got on the— Well,
let's go with these.
I have some—these are from PBS.
And these are—this is Hamas.
This is the story with a bunch of
analysis.
But this is—the opener is Hamas PBS version
1.
President Trump is sending envoys Steve Whitkoff and
Jared Kushner to Cairo this weekend to try

(01:17:30):
to nail down a deal— Oh, Kushner, another
Jew trying to make money off the deal!
Sorry, I have to give color commentary.
President Trump is sending envoys Steve Whitkoff and
Jared Kushner to Cairo this weekend to try
to nail down a deal between Hamas and
Israel to free the remaining Israeli hostages.
The president hopes that would be the first
step toward ending their war, which is to

(01:17:52):
enter its third year on Tuesday.
In Gaza, the skies were relatively calm.
Palestinian hospital officials say Israeli bombing has significantly
subsided, though not stopped entirely.
They said at least five Palestinians had been
killed.
Israeli officials say the IDF has shifted to
a defensive posture in Gaza.
On social media, the president said the next

(01:18:14):
steps were up to the Palestinian militant group.
Hamas must move quickly or else all bets
are off.
I will not tolerate delay or any outcome
where Gaza poses a threat again.
Let's get this done fast.
In Khan Younis, displaced Palestinians said Mr. Trump's
pressure should be directed elsewhere.
And he was at Luckin.

(01:18:34):
My message to Mr. Trump is to pressure
Israel for a ceasefire.
He is feeling for us and aware of
our situations.
This is enough.
Did PBS mention the post he made about
the Israeli protesters, the enemies of Israel?
They have a bit.
I think their analysis is better.
And it starts right with this next clip.

(01:18:54):
Aaron David Miller was a US Middle East
negotiator in Republican and Democratic administrations.
You're a former negotiated.
You hear the things that Israel is saying,
that Hamas is saying.
Do you get the feeling that we're on
our way to a deal?
You know, usually my sense is, is pretty
negative given the gaps between Israel and Hamas

(01:19:14):
over the last couple of years.
But yeah, I think we are at least
on the way to the release of hostages
in exchange, probably, probably for an end to
Israel's comprehensive military campaign in Gaza.
Beyond that, it is really difficult to say,
because both the yes, but from Israel and

(01:19:35):
the yes, but for sure from Hamas to
the president's 20 points basically reflect still the
impossibility right now of reconciling what the Israelis
want for an end state and what Hamas
does.
But I think, John, closer than ever, although

(01:19:57):
in Arab-Israeli-Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, ever is
a kind of a problematic idea.
Explain what the sticking points are on each
side.
What in the deal is Hamas not crazy
about?
What in the deal is Israel not terribly
excited about?
I think both are not excited about excited
about any of it, except the president is

(01:20:17):
the most excited, because what he is going
to be able to accomplish if it holds
is the return of all the hostages, living
and dead, and likely, as I mentioned, an
end to Israel's comprehensive military campaign in Gaza.
Hamas wants to survive.
And they will be looking for two commitments

(01:20:38):
that I don't think this Israeli government will
be willing to give.
I think the statehood part is the big
is the big carrot, which will never take
place.
Yeah, well, all Trump, it just seems, if
you listen to this guy, that all Trump
really wants to accomplish is stop.
Yes.
Stop the killing.
Stop.
And then, you know, let's just stop.

(01:20:59):
And so, but there's a key, but it
also, as it will be revealed in the
next couple of clips, Trump does have a
lot more leverage over Netanyahu than people know
about.
Withdraw all Israeli forces from Gaza and a
formal end to the war where the Israelis
will not continue to exercise the right to

(01:21:20):
preempt or prevent if Hamas resurges.
As far as Mr. Netanyahu is concerned, he
wanted, quote unquote, total victory as he has
maintained these many months, which would have meant
the end of Hamas as an organized military
organization.
I think he probably, these Israeli defense forces

(01:21:40):
have achieved that.
What they have not achieved, and I think
this is going to be extremely difficult, is
the end of Hamas's political influence in Gaza
and its existence as an insurgency.
So again, Netanyahu's end state and Hamas's are
still, in my judgment, mutually irreconcilable.
This is happening.

(01:22:01):
Yes, Hamas is under pressure.
It's happening.
Yes, the Arabs are more united.
But it is happening for one primary reason.
You have an American president.
I was part of administrations from Jimmy Carter
to Bush 43.
You have an administration, a president that has
exercised unprecedented pressure on an Israeli prime minister,

(01:22:23):
not since Eisenhower, who threatened David Ben-Gurion
with political and economic sanctions.
Has an American president been this tough with
an Israeli prime minister and actually threatened a
quote or else?
And this Israeli prime minister, since he needs
Donald Trump to wage a successful election campaign

(01:22:45):
to remain prime minister, probably in the spring
or maybe the fall of 2026, couldn't say
no.
Oh yeah, don't worry.
We'll get you in jail, Bibi, unless you
send the boys from Shabbat on me.
Which won't happen.
Of course not.
That's a good point.

(01:23:06):
That's good.
That's accentuates the point.
Yes, and he wraps it with less of
an accentuation here.
Is that surprising given the relationship we saw
between Mr. Trump and Mr. Netanyahu during Mr.
Trump's first term?
And also we keep hearing Netanyahu say Israel
has had no better friend in the White

(01:23:27):
House than Donald Trump.
I mean, Trump fashions himself as the most
pro-Israeli president in human history.
And the reality is during Trump 1.0,
I think Donald Trump created what I would
describe as a sugar high for the Israelis.
He applied no pressure, ample amounts of honey,
but no vinegar.
This time around, given the fact that he

(01:23:47):
wanted to claim success in not ending the
war.
Let's be clear.
The war between Israel and Hamas is going
to go on.
But Trump, like in Ukraine, wanted to end
the fighting, but not the war.
Here, he's going to get the hostages out,
most likely.
And he will ameliorate or diminish the comprehensive

(01:24:11):
military campaign that the Israelis have waged over
the last year, where they now occupy 75
to 80 percent of Gaza, where the Israelis
are going to withdraw to.
Will Hamas's weapons be decommissioned, as it says
in the president's proposal?
Is there going to be an Arab stabilization
force?

(01:24:31):
Will aid, humanitarian assistance, and reconstruction to provide
two million Palestinians finally with a secure source
of potable water, sanitation, access to proper medical
care, and enough food?
All of those issues, all of them, remain
to be negotiated.
It's the best of all scenarios.

(01:24:53):
Stop the killing.
Keep the threat of war going so we
can continue to sell stuff.
That's what we do.
That's why AIPAC is still around.
We can continue to sell.
I guess sign off.
We've got to build this.
We've got to do this.
We're doing it in Europe, too.
It's coming later.
I'm going to interject with two quick Rubio
clips from this morning.
He did all the morning shows.

(01:25:14):
This is Manhans Welker.
Mr. Secretary, I want to read point 19
of the president's peace plan.
I'll put it up so folks can see
it.
While Gaza redevelopment advances and when the Palestinian
Authority reform program is faithfully carried out, the
conditions may finally be in place for a
credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood,

(01:25:36):
which we recognize as the aspiration of the
Palestinian people.
Does the Trump administration now support Palestinian statehood,
Mr. Secretary?
Hamana, Hamana.
Well, look, first of all, that provision was
very important to the countries that signed on
with us and Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, et
cetera.
They all really that's a very important point
to them.

(01:25:56):
I think the most important point to read
out of that is that you have to
have somebody to turn it over to, right?
Someone that you can hand that over to.
We've always said that if there's going to
be a two state solution, it has to
be negotiated with Israel.
It has to make sure that Israel's security
is taken into account.
And so I would argue that I wouldn't
say this is a new policy position.
What I would say is you want to
be able to have in Gaza a place

(01:26:17):
that Israel has no interest in governing Gaza.
They want to turn it over to somebody,
some organization that will govern it, that will
not build tunnels and sponsor terrorism and come
across the line and kidnap, rape and murder
Israelis.
That's who they want to turn it over
to.
And right now that doesn't exist.
That has to be built.
But Mr. Secretary, we need you to say
that you are for a Palestinian state.

(01:26:40):
But Mr. Secretary, in terms of where the
administration stands, yes or no, does the Trump
administration support Palestinian statehood?
That's not a yes or no question.
That's a process.
No, but that's not a yes or no
question.
That's a process.
Ultimately, at the end of the day, we've
always said this has been the consistent position
of this administration, of myself, and of a
lot of people that have watched this for
a very long time.
In order for that aspiration to even be

(01:27:01):
credible, it has to be realistic.
We can't have a Palestinian state that's governed
by Hamas or by some terrorist organization whose
stated purpose for existence is the destruction of
the Jewish state.
That would never work.
Until Gaza is governed by people that are
not interested in destroying Israel, until there are
no security threats emanating against Israel from Gaza,

(01:27:23):
forget about statehood.
You're not going to have peace.
So we have to create the conditions for
that.
That's going to take a while.
And that's going to be part of what
these negotiations are about in the days to
come.
But right now, the priority, number one, is
to get the hostages released.
If we can't even get an agreement on
the hostages being released, you ain't going to
have long-term peace here.
So let's get that peace done.

(01:27:43):
It's the most important.
And then we can move to phase two.
And it'll give momentum to the rest of
the effort.
But this is not going to be easy.
No one said this is going to be
easy.
We are dealing with something that's been going
on for a very long time.
Yeah, there you go.
That's the 20-point plan.
And all the Arab...
Where is Animas of Dogpatch?
Where's a dude named Mohammed?

(01:28:03):
We need some boots on the ground.
What is Iran thinking?
He'd give us some information.
He's probably floating around.
He's probably part of it.
So...
He's in Doha.
He's in Doha at the moment.
He's in Doha.
So we have...
I want to play this...
This is the NPR version of what we

(01:28:23):
played for PBS.
But I only think I have to play
clip one here, which is...
Because they decided...
Something came down.
Now, most of these operations, these large-scale
operations, whether it's the New York Times, the
Associated Press, or NPR, PBS, they all have
style guides.
And so you have to keep an eye

(01:28:43):
on the style guides.
In other words, the style guide will tell
you, as a writer or a reporter, what
terms you can use.
Ah, yes.
And how to put them.
That's how you get, you know, a birthing
person shows up, kind of thing.
And everyone's all of a sudden saying birthing
person.
Pregnant people.
Pregnant people.
Stuff like that.
Front hole.

(01:29:05):
Front hole.
So they have...
So the style guides...
And I just caught this.
And I...
See if you can catch it.
It's kind of a...
The way I edit it is kind of
a giveaway.
But I thought this was quite interesting.
This is the NPR one clip.
Reaction to President Trump's plan to end the
nearly two-year war in Gaza is being
viewed cautiously by residents there.

(01:29:27):
Both Israel and Hamas say they endorse Trump's
20-point plan.
But details have yet to be worked out.
NPR's Carrie Khan reports.
Residents in Gaza, like Iman Abu-Akhlain, a
48-year-old mother of four, says the
news of a deal is some relief.
It's like we've been bottled up so tightly,

(01:29:47):
and now we can take a breath.
Just a small one, as we are still
living in a nightmare, she says.
Israel's military says it's getting ready to implement
Trump's plan and has moved to a defensive
-only position, according to an official not authorized
to speak to the media on the record.
However, Gaza health officials say airstrikes continued overnight,
killing and wounding Gazans.

(01:30:10):
Okay.
Killing Gazans, not Palestinians.
Oh, good catch.
Oh, it's already shifting.
It's starting to shift.
Now, we'll see if we start hearing the
term Gazans.
Gazans.
Instead of Palestinians.
It's like saying New Yorkers.

(01:30:30):
Swapping it, you know, swapping out a term
here.
Oh, very good catch.
There's a reason for it.
Very good catch.
So, I found that to be, that really
stopped me in my tracks.
That's where I ended the clip with it.
Yeah, that's good.
There's a part two to this, if you
want to hear it.
It just kind of wraps it up.
Well, it was very short, I think.
So, yeah, of course.
Israel is preparing a team for face-to

(01:30:52):
-face talks, as the U.S. also sends
envoys to Cairo, according to two people briefed
but not authorized to speak publicly.
Okay, of course, sources.
Yeah, nothing there.
Meanwhile, this Gen Z color revolution around the
world is very interesting.
Yeah, I have a clip on this, too.

(01:31:14):
Okay, you want to play yours first?
Well, mine is just about specific.
It's a specific one of these Gen Z.
We picked this up when it started in
Nepal.
This is the Gen Z 212.
Morocco's biggest anti-government process in years turned
deadly this week.
The demonstrations are led by a coalition of
Moroccan youth who call themselves Gen Z 212,

(01:31:38):
named for the nation's dialing code.
The group says the government is pouring billions
of dollars into infrastructure for the 2030 FIFA
World Cup while neglecting domestic issues like health
care and education.
Demonstrations began across Morocco a week ago, and
some have become violent.
This week, three protesters were killed.

(01:31:58):
So the Nepal thing was actually staring me
in the face because, you know, I looked
at the map, Nepal between India and China.
Oh, hello.
They wanted to join BRICS.
Well, no, you're not joining BRICS.
You're not going to connect India and China
to make it a whole BRICS segment there.
You're not going to do that.
We're going to send the Gen Zs on

(01:32:19):
you.
I have a little bit longer clip of
Morocco, which is still going on, the Gen
Z 212.
And what's very obvious is that it's very
much like the BLM riots.
You get everybody out there for social means,
like, hey, you know, it's like we're spending
all their money to Israel.
We're against that.

(01:32:40):
We don't want that.
And then you send in the agitators, the
people with the umbrellas who start smashing the
windows and throwing the firebombs.
And then you've got a mess.
And then it's still the it's the Gen
Zs who are very upset about how the
government is spending money and not on them.
Anger has not abated in Morocco.
For nights on end, protesters have united against

(01:33:00):
the government, demanding better public services.
In some instances, it has turned violent.
Buildings have been set alight and properties destroyed.
Many citizens feel the isolated incidents undermine demonstrators'
legitimate demands.
We support the protests but reject the destruction.

(01:33:20):
If we all want to protect public freedom,
demand dignity and call for social justice, we
must understand that social justice means giving everyone
their rights.
As a Moroccan youth, I reject this ugly
behavior of destruction and violence.
Through peaceful protests, we came out demanding our
legitimate rights to proper health care and education.

(01:33:41):
The initial peaceful gatherings began on Saturday, loosely
organized by Morocco's Gen Z 212 group.
So I found it was mind-blowing on
this France 24.
Yes, they had a whole segment on Gen
Z, on all the Gen Z revolutions, which

(01:34:02):
I thought was very interesting.
What do all these protests have in common?
Yes, they are all protests across Asia and
Africa.
But there is something more.
Corruption, lack of jobs, poverty, block of social
media platforms.
These are just some of the problems stretching
from Sri Lanka to the Philippines, Bangladesh, Nepal,
Morocco and Madagascar.

(01:34:23):
Protests have been ongoing for months, all starting
in one main way, led by Gen Z,
the generation born between 1997 and 2012, and
organized through social media.
In Morocco, protests were launched by the anonymous
youth collective called Gen Z 212 on the
platform Discord, referring both to Generation Z and

(01:34:44):
the country's dialing code 212.
The more than 120,000 members demand reforms
in health and education and criticize the sums
invested in the 2030 World Cup at the
expense of public services.
In Kenya, with the hashtag Ruto Must Go
and the telegram group Gen Z Revo 2,
Gen Z has mobilized against unemployment, tax hikes

(01:35:07):
and high living costs, sweeping protests across Nairobi
and even breaching the walls of parliament.
Madagascar, one of the world's poorest nations, has
seen Gen Z group rise up against blackouts
and water shortages, leading to the dissolution of
the government, but also leaving at least 22
people dead.
In Nepal, Gen Z outrage erupted after thousands

(01:35:30):
of young people were posted images and videos
online, showing the luxurious lifestyles of politicians' children,
shared with hashtags like Nepal Kids and Nepal
Babies.
Despite social media ban, youth has organized mass
protests against corruption and inequality.
And the Philippines have seen the student and
youth network Tamana, along with others, leading the

(01:35:52):
recent marches in Manila over alleged corruption in
flood control and infrastructure projects.
Everywhere, the youth lead and dress, the use
of digital platforms for organization, the cross-border
inspiration.
These mobilizations do not necessarily or immediately result
in lasting reforms.
But it's clear that this generation doesn't want

(01:36:13):
to survive in a falling system.
They want to voice their grievances and transform
it radically.
So this is some bull crap right here.
Oh, Gen Z, the Gen Z is the
most wussy generation ever.
They're not starting any revolt.
This has op written all over and it

(01:36:34):
has an intelligence agency written all over it.
But which one and why?
I'm going to tell you.
Asia and Africa.
Who has the interest in Asia and Africa?
It's always been the British crown, Canada.
I'll give the North Sea Nexus a break
on this one.
So I was corrected by many people about

(01:36:54):
Discord, because all this, oh, it starts on
Discord, starts on Discord.
And I said, it's an open source platform.
I was corrected by a number of producers.
No, no.
There's a lot of open source projects that
are run and managed on Discord.
But Discord is a complete company product.
You get it for free.
Now, when you get something for free, you're

(01:37:15):
actually the product.
We know that.
The business model is very odd of Discord.
You can have a turbo Discord where you
can actually give the company money and raise
money for your Discord server.
You can get extra benefits and more expansive
features.

(01:37:36):
They do have some advertising.
I'm looking at this company, and it's founded
by two nerds who are gamers.
But if you look at their timeline on
their Aboot page, spring 2025, Jason, he's one
of the co-founders, one of the nerds,
announces his transition from CEO to board member

(01:37:57):
and advisor.
And Humam Sakhnini becomes Discord's new CEO.
Sakhnini brings deep gaming industry experience from leadership
roles at Activision, Blizzard, and King.
So I go look at this guy.
Well, isn't this guy very interesting?
He initially worked for the investment bank Nesbit

(01:38:18):
Burns, Canadian crown, for the Department of Finance
in Canada.
This is a London, City of London guy.
Participated in the 20th Annual Meeting of the
Canadian Economics Association in Calgary.
Authored three of Department of Finance's fiscal policy
and economic analysis branch working papers.
He argued in favor of pre-funding pension

(01:38:40):
plans.
It sounds like a gamer to me.
He later founded and co-directed the financial
technology group firm IS Group, which provided services
to mutual funds and hedge funds.
Let's look at his education, shall we?
Graduated Bachelor of Arts in Economics from the
University of Western Ontario before receiving a Master

(01:39:02):
of Arts in Economics from the Queen's University.
He earned a Masters of Business Administration degree
from Yale.
This guy is an op.
And the minute he comes in, not three
months later, all of a sudden Discord is
the platform of choice for all of these
Gen Z revolutions.
There's your op.

(01:39:23):
It's blatant right there.
Spent eight years as partner at McKinsey and
Company.
You know what?
This guy's absolutely a gamer.
He joined London-based King in April 2016
as Chief Financial Officer.
And of course, that's where he led the
acquisition of Activision Blizzard.
And you know what?

(01:39:43):
Well, I don't think he's an op.
He's a spook.
Well, a spook part of the op.
And it's clearly the Brits who are doing
this.
They have all the interest historically in Asia
and Africa.
It's like, OK, we see what you're doing.
And they have just as much benefit to
not seeing Bricks succeed as anybody else.

(01:40:04):
They still have the pound.
It's still a big deal to them.
So be very aware of Discord Gen Z
revolutions in our own country, which will be
a bunch of soy boys and girls go,
oh, what do we want?
We want democracy.
When do we want it?
We want it whenever you give it to
us.

(01:40:24):
Yeah.
And then we have a lot of Gen
Zers that listen to this show that are
more than happy to tell us what they
think.
Yes, I'm looking forward to it.
And calling them out as a bunch of
wimps is probably not necessarily 100% true.
I'm generalizing, obviously.
I'm generalizing.

(01:40:45):
You're generalizing.
Yeah, of course.
Obviously, I'm generalizing.
Meanwhile, we've got Europe.
But I'm with you.
I don't believe that there is a 212
thing and all the rest of it in
these obscure countries where you have this where
they're rioting.
And it's just obviously been co-opted is

(01:41:07):
the old.
It would get some old terms here.
Yes.
Old communist terms of co-option.
These guys are co-opted in some way.
And they've got leaders.
It's not leaderless, but the leader is probably
not Gen Z at all.
And the whole thing is corrupted.
Gen Z is a generalization by itself.
It's like boomer, like all boomers.
I mean, I'm not even officially.
Well, OK, I don't feel like a boomer,

(01:41:28):
but put me as a boomer, Gen X,
whatever.
I feel like a teenager.
Finally, finally an opening for the show.
I've been waiting for it.
Well, I have the sense of humor for
it.
Um, so meanwhile, let's sigh up the European
Union a little bit more because we still
need to borrow all these hundreds of millions

(01:41:49):
for the omnibus, for the omnibus to get
the drone wall implemented.
We need the drone wall.
We need more money, more money, more money.
I have an idea.
Oh, check this out.
Munich Airport says it is gradually resuming flights
after more drones were spotted early this Saturday.
The airport shut down Friday evening for the
second day in a row over drone sightings
with dozens of flights and more than 6000

(01:42:11):
passengers affected.
More delays are expected throughout the day.
Airports in Denmark, Norway and Poland have all
recently suspended flights due to unidentified drones.
Some European countries have directly blamed Russia, but
Moscow has denied allegations.
Here's Germany's interior minister.
We are in a race between drone threats

(01:42:33):
and drone defense.
It's a race.
We want to and must win this race.
That is why it is important to take
the necessary measures at the European level to
upgrade our technology, pool our expertise and ensure
that drone defense technology is also developed in
Europe in cooperation with partners from Israel and
Ukraine.

(01:42:53):
Ah, bring in Israel.
Perfect.
Yeah, we need the drone technology.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, drones.
Yeah, we have anti-drones because that'll stop
an ICBM.
Oh, and then flights are canceled.
It's because of the Russian drones.
What a sigh up.
And then Ursula, the moron that she is

(01:43:16):
hair.
We're going to call her hair Ursula from
now on.
Hair Ursula.
As she is.
Well, you could be spelled H-A-I
-R.
Oh, that's a good one, too.
Hair Ursula.
She's got, you know, we're not done, Europe.
We're not done.
The race is just getting started.
It's not too late for us to get

(01:43:38):
in on this scam.
Too often.
I hear that Europe is late to the
race.
The skeptics say we will repeat the main
mistakes of the past and another generation of
European talents will be forced to leave.
I strongly disagree, not only because the race
is still warming up, but also because I've

(01:44:01):
seen what Europeans can do when we set
our eyes on a goal.
What has Europe done for me lately?
What what fantastic technology has Europe brought us?
Well, you know, when AI is in the
loop.
Because when AI is in the loop, we
reach better solutions fast, reliable, affordable, reliable, affordable.

(01:44:24):
It's safe and effective.
Some of your startups are already pioneering it.
I don't know of a single one.
Let me tell you, I'm a medical doctor
by training.
I'm amazed what AI can do in medicines.
AI can assist doctors in diagnosing cancer much,
much earlier or accelerate innovative medicines discovery.

(01:44:44):
The big promise of AI, innovative medicine discovery
and detecting cancer.
What she's talking about, what's it got to
do with Europe?
It's all Ellison.
It's all Oracle.
That's the promise of Stargate.
But you know what?
Europe can do it.
We will spare no effort to make Europe
an AI continent.
That means no expense.

(01:45:07):
We will spare no effort to make Europe
an AI continent.
We will spare no effort to make you
choose Europe because this is the great mission
of our times.
Thank you for inviting me.
And long live Europe.

(01:45:35):
My Lord, that is insane.
Well, at least she didn't mention quantum.
No, well, I haven't seen the whole speech.
I'm sure she did.
Now, before we move on, I just need
to stop because we have now reached peak
AI.
This is an amazing thing that is happening.

(01:45:56):
And this is SORA 2.
Have you heard of, seen it, or are
you aware of SORA 2?
JC has brought me up to speed on
it.
SORA 2, I have a two-parter here
of Shibesh talking to a WIRED reporter because,

(01:46:17):
of course, if you really want to know
what's going on in technology, WIRED is still
relevant.
SORA is it, baby.
Today, we're announcing the SORA app powered by
the all-new SORA 2.
Well, that may look and sound just like
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, but it's actually a
video generated completely by AI using the company's

(01:46:39):
new app, SORA 2.
OpenAI says it allows people to create and
share AI-generated video clips featuring themselves and
their friends.
Now, the clips posted by the company online
show how unrealistic scenarios can look hyper-realistic
using this tool.
All right, I got to bring in Zoe
Schiffer, the director of business and industry at

(01:47:01):
WIRED magazine.
Zoe, these videos are incredible.
Tell us a little more about this AI
tool and what people can do with it.
Yeah, so OpenAI first released SORA, their video
generation model, about a year ago.
Since then, a lot of other companies have
kind of jumped into the space and the
technology has been moving really, really fast.

(01:47:23):
During this time, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman basically
directed the team to start working on an
app.
The thinking was that just like ChatGPT allowed
people to kind of realize the potential of
generated text, creating kind of a TikTok-style
app to watch and create AI-generated videos

(01:47:44):
would be like a huge unlock to make
people realize the potential for video generation.
Now, I have some analysis about this SORA
2 app.
But first, we just have to finish with
this WIRED reporter.
I think you and I universally would agree
that most technology reporters are whores for the
technology companies.
And when you actually say that you're not,

(01:48:05):
that's like a red flag.
Yeah, you got to wonder what some of
these Hollywood directors are thinking about some of
these videos because they look so realistic.
So realistic.
And put yourself in Avatar or some of
these big blockbuster films.
It's amazing to see what they're able to
do.
Are they approaching, though, the safety concerns as
this technology becomes more and more advanced?

(01:48:27):
I mean, there's some scary stuff that can
come out of this too.
Scary stuff.
Yeah, absolutely.
And far be it for me to like
act as an OpenAI spokesperson, but as someone
who's reported on this company pretty deeply.
What does that even mean?
Far be it for me to act as
an OpenAI spokesperson.
Why would you even say that?

(01:48:47):
Far be it for me, which is a
phrase I don't think I've ever used in
my life, but I've heard it.
Far be it for me, which is just
crazy if you think it was trying to
figure out what it means, I would be
an AI spokesperson.
To act as an AI spokesperson.
Yeah, it's almost like a scripted comment.

(01:49:10):
Well, she's been read in and she's spouting
the company line.
That's what I think it means.
Yeah, absolutely.
who's reported on this company pretty deeply, I
will say that I actually.
Which means she's got inside knowledge, which means
she has access.
Yeah, and then she uses a performative I
will say.

(01:49:31):
Yes.
Why don't you just say it?
Why do you say I will say and
then you say it?
Why don't you just say it?
Exactly.
Yeah, absolutely.
who's reported on this company pretty deeply, I
will say that I actually do think they're
taking these concerns extremely seriously.
Earlier this week, the company rolled out parental

(01:49:53):
controls to help parents, you know, have a
little more oversight into their the accounts of
their children and specifically their teenagers.
When the Sora app rolled out, they like
kind of baked in some of those parental
controls specifically to allow parents to stop their
kids from like doom scrolling.
So I think that they're trying to be
proactive and get ahead of at least some

(01:50:13):
of the major concerns.
And to be clear, this is an app
that you can use, anybody can use on
their phone or tablet or computer, correct?
Yeah, exactly.
So you can download it now in the
app store.
I think at least today you need a
code from someone that's using it, but it's
already kind of taken off.
There's a lot of people jumping in.
There are some restrictions.
Like if you try and generate a video

(01:50:33):
of say Taylor Swift or even like Darth
Vader, it'll stop you.
It'll say that like there are copyright restrictions
that are baked in and won't allow you
to do that.
Yeah, her full performative was, I will say
I actually do believe.
That's impressive.
That's a mouthful.
So this is a brilliant move by OpenAI
because this is going to be, I could

(01:50:56):
already see it, highly addictive.
People love it.
Scaramanga got put out of business in like
one fell swoop or possibly he can open
a business depending on how he manages his
time.
The whole point of this, if you look
at the app, what is the first thing
it wants you to do?
Scan your face.
This thing is fresh content for OpenAI's large

(01:51:20):
language models and every numbnut is going to
do this.
Oh yeah, I put myself in this movie.
Let me show you my face.
Yeah, you got it.
You got it.
Oh, look at this.
Of course, they're going to be sued into
oblivion, but by then they'll already have what
they need.
They needed fresh photographic, videographic content because they

(01:51:45):
know where it's going.
They know that this whole notion of it's
for business.
They need to be generating video and pictures
and they need new content and I will
never put my face on it.
I would say, I think if there's pictures
of us out there, I think you should
just fill the entire internet with slop of

(01:52:06):
us, but I'll never put my face on
it because Taylor Swift shouldn't have any more
protection than I have by my likeness.
I think this is a move that is
blowing everybody out of the water and Google
is going to try and run and catch
up and it's going to cost them more

(01:52:28):
and more and more money and that's where
the next trillion dollars is going to have
to come because we're almost there, boys.
We just had another trillion dollars.
One of our young friends, she worked for
an AI recruiting company in Austin, not that
they were recruiting AI people, but they used

(01:52:51):
AI to match job openings with candidates and
she said it was 30-70.
30% will be great, 70% would
just not work and they're about to close
the doors.
They just couldn't make it work.
They always kept saying to their investors, if
we just have a little bit more, we're
almost there.

(01:53:11):
We can almost do perfect matches every single
time.
You can't.
This stuff is hallucinating.
You can't.
You can't get 100%.
You can get maybe up to 70, maybe
60.
This is a losing proposition.
So Altman just extended his life, I don't
know, his business life by maybe several years

(01:53:33):
because this thing, I think it's going to
overtake TikTok.
You want to dictate?
I disagree completely.
You disagree with it's going to overtake TikTok?
Yeah, because it's a piece of crap.
I got the lecture about this.
I was shown all the videos and even
JC admits that this stuff is not watchable.

(01:53:56):
Yeah, it's very good.
I mean, you see very high resolution images
of something happening that doesn't exist in real
life and a lot of it looks like
this has to be a real person, but
it's not.
But it is, there were some of these
videos, they were 30 seconds long and you
couldn't watch five seconds before you were bored

(01:54:16):
stiff.
I have a different opinion.
A real good TikTok video of a fat
chick falling on her butt off of a
bicycle is far superior to the garbage that
this thing is producing.
But the difference is you can put yourself
and your friends in the movie.
Oh, who cares?

(01:54:37):
Nobody cares.
I think that's I'm not going to I'm
not interested in that.
And I don't think it will be.
No, you're not.
I'm not either.
It will be the number one app within.
I don't think a lot.
You are.
We have to assume that we're not alone
in our thinking.
I'm giving you my my input.
I'm giving you my opinion.

(01:54:58):
Agree with me that we're not interested in
putting our faces on all these sorts of
things.
We aren't.
We're we we you and I are in
the majority.
You don't even use a phone.
So you're not you're in the minority.
You are in the minority.
You don't do self.
I am not in the minority when it

(01:55:18):
comes to when it comes to not using
the phone or keeping it in the drawer
to be to be straight about it.
Oh, and you bring it up with anybody.
They fall in love.
Oh, my God.
I wish I could do the same thing.
I wish I wish I wish.
I am in the majority.
I just happen to be the only one
to follow through.
Oh, OK, OK.
You are the only drug addicts who got

(01:55:38):
out.
Yes, you are a winner winning.
John C.
Dvorak is a winner, but that is not
the majority of people.
The majority of people are losers and they
are addicted to their phones and now they
can put themselves into the movie.
No, this this is going to fly.
But we'll see.
We'll see.

(01:55:59):
I'm I'm willing to admit defeat.
I'll give it one month.
This is the number one app.
Everyone's talking about it.
Every news show, all these news, all these
all these.
Well, you know, you can make something the
number one app, even get these news idiots
to push it because everybody fall apart.
Ego man is ego.
People love themselves.

(01:56:19):
That's what the whole selfie thing is about.
An entire an entire device was created.
I'm not going to argue against you on
the selfie thing.
It is bothersome.
It's a selfie movie is what they're going
to love it.
People will love it.
They will love it.
And it's completely free.

(01:56:40):
How much this guy is burning cash.
That's why that's why they need to have
this be successful and they will make it
successful.
Come hook or crook.
Oh, there's a Jew reference for you.
They're going to make it successful.
Altman.
Taken over, taken over.
Everybody's going to be going to be psyoping
everybody with this or to this.

(01:57:01):
Right.
Everybody loves Israel.
They're going to make it the number one
app because he needs another couple of trillion
dollars to finally get to the business stuff
that's actually going to work, which we know
it just won't.
In the meantime, Spotify removed.
Well, you have to give the guy credit
for keeping.

(01:57:21):
He's got the balls in the air.
I give him a lot of credit.
He's got a bunch of plates.
He's spinning them around.
There's another one.
There's another one.
That's what you do as an entrepreneur.
How long does this go on?
Hey, as long as he can keep putting
plates up, he can spin them.
And Spotify now, now they're in trouble.
Spotify is in trouble because they had to

(01:57:41):
keep saying that, but they keep making money.
Well, well, that's kind of the point.
They had they deleted 75 million songs from
their catalog.
And they and the reason they did that
is because the majority shareholders of Spotify, even
in the public markets, are the publishing companies

(01:58:03):
and the publishing companies like, hold on a
second.
We can't have this.
We can't have every Tom, Dick and Harry
making our money off of this, off of
these AI songs.
So I think that you're going to see
some other platforms picking this up.
I would if I had a music platform,
I'd be like all AI all the time.

(01:58:23):
Bring it over here.
Make money, make money with your songs.
So you think that Spotify made a mistake
when they ran these these fake bands and
they ran them as legit and they were
found out?
And then, yeah, the public, the music publishers
making actual music.
Yeah, the owners, owners got very mad.
The owners decided, hey, wait a minute.

(01:58:43):
Yeah, the true owners.
Yeah, they got very mad.
Well, you know, easy money.
So I don't know.
We'll see what Apple and Amazon does.
But I mean, people were loving this.
Like, hey, I just made a song.
It cost me 20 bucks a month to
make a thousand songs.
And I'm making five bucks on royalties.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:59:05):
Hey, you know, more trucks.
I'm monetizing, man.
I'm monetizing, monetizing my creativity, my prompting creativity.
Please, more of it.
Please fill the Internet with as much of
this slop as possible.
Keep it going.
Just keep it going until nothing is usable.
I mean, already, if you just...

(01:59:25):
I was looking for...
I was looking for a story on Nepal
with a Gen Z thing that included Discord.
Well, you have to wade through at least
15 AI-generated news stories to find something.
And even then, it's like still dubious.
It's filling everything up.

(01:59:49):
And still, the podcast, it's industrial complex.
We need a tag.
We need to tag this AI.
We can't have AI, AI podcast.
Please.
Why?
Yeah, because the advertisers are getting fleeced.
That's why the advertisers are getting mad.
Advertisers got to get a clue.

(02:00:11):
They will.
They will.
They always do.
And then they get, they drop off.
And of course, it does a shake out.
You know, Armageddon, the podcast, they all go
out of business.
The ones that try to make money.
And then all of a sudden, something changes
and the advertisers are suckered back.
They always get suckered back.

(02:00:31):
They will.
Look at these numbers.
Hey, Bob, have you seen these numbers?
I think we got an opportunity here.
And with that, I want to thank you
for your courage saying in the morning to
you, the man who put the C in
the one and only AI continent.
Say hello, my friend on the other end.
The one, the only Mr. John C.

(02:00:52):
DeVore.
In the morning to the trolls in the
troll room.
Stand still.
Let me catch you for a second.
There we go.
Dog days of summer.

(02:01:13):
2158 listening live.
And they are listening on no agenda stream
dot com, which should be fixed.
Tell your friends.
Tell your neighbors.
Everything works again.
They are trolling along in the troll room.
Troll room that I own.
Also, no agenda stream dot com.
You can use your modern podcast app, which
may or may not have some AI slop
in it.

(02:01:34):
But of course, the biggest downside to podcasting
is there's no discovery mechanism.
So it's also its biggest protection.
So there's no algo that's shoving podcasts in
your face all the time on the podcast
apps yet.
No, it's decentralized.
It's impossible to happen.
It's impossible.

(02:01:54):
It will not happen, which is good.
And the more slop, the more people will
want to hear two old dudes yacking away.
Oh, it feels so comfortable, doesn't it?
Just to hear people make mistakes.
Yeah, it does feel kind of good.
Oh, they disagree.
Oh, no.
They actually sound emotional about something.
Oh, oh, my.

(02:02:14):
Man, you and your noise makers.
Oh, good lord.
You and your noise makers.
I got another one here.
I've got the sign noise maker.
Modern podcast apps.
Go get yourself one of those.
It's your protection against AI slop.
Go to podcastapps.com.
Pick one up.
They're all pretty darn good, I would say.

(02:02:35):
And with that, of course, you will also
be alerted when we go live.
You can listen live in your podcast app.
What legacy app does that?
Let me think.
None of them.
And within 90 seconds of publishing, you will
be notified as well.
Which legacy app does that?
Let me think.
None of them, of course.
That's why you want to be ahead of
the times and on top of the news.
Wasn't that, uh, was that, uh, New York

(02:02:59):
Daily?
Was it the Daily Post?
No, I don't think so.
Ahead of the times and on top of
the news.
I didn't.
I lived in New York for a while.
I remember these things.
The extra E, yes.
Drop the extra S for savings.
Dial a mattress.

(02:03:19):
I remember that.
Crazy Eddie's prices are insane.
So, um, the 26th of October will be
18 years that we do in this podcast.
And all the, all that time, John has
been studying my Tourette's and he is now
an expert, which is amazing.
I am.
Because we've only seen each other twice in
the last 10 years.
Once is enough.

(02:03:42):
Ditto.
Right back at you, Bubba.
So we accept time, talent, or treasure in
return for the value that we provide you.
And we think that after 18 years, people
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Four out of five doctors will say that
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(02:04:03):
guaranteed to continue.
But we also accept other things such as
AI slop.
And we get that from our Noah Jenner
artists who are now prompt jockeys.
And one day, one day, the actual artists
will return.
You can wait for it.
When everyone's listening to AI slop songs, eventually,
you know, a Ramones comes along or.

(02:04:24):
I think they said the same thing about
Photoshop.
Well, clip art, Photoshop, everything.
And it was, it was all a problem.
Technology is always a problem.
We don't want to be Luddites, but there
you go.
Hey, we had a new artist check in.
He'd only been a Noah Jenner artist for
two weeks.
And we liked his AI sloppiness.

(02:04:45):
His name is Jock10, J-O-Q-10.
He did the artwork for episode 1804, which
we titled Mucho Retardo.
We liked that.
And it was a fat general in the
submarine.
He couldn't get in or he couldn't get
out.
And people liked it.
And we liked it too.
It was an admiral.
Oh, is it?

(02:05:05):
How do you know it's an admiral?
Because it's a submarine.
Oh, thank you.
Good point.
Thank God, you know about these things.
Fat admiral.
F-A, fat admiral.
And of course, these were as uploaded to
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If you're having trouble uploading a piece of
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as specified.
That's just a little tip for those of
you having trouble.
It needs to be the exact dimensions in
order to upload.
And let me see.
We looked at everything, of course.
There was a lot of hobbies.
Well, there was the battle ready from Blue
Acorn.
That was a fat soldier eating a donut.

(02:05:48):
I'd say that was probably a close second.
We had lots of stares running up and
down.
You like the John Adams bug out kit
for some reason.
Yeah, it was too small.
It was too small, but it included a
handgun, a revolver, a flashlight, a cracker.
I like the one cracker.

(02:06:09):
Like a graham cracker kit and some water.
Let me see what else was there.
A lot of sombreros.
A lot of sombreros, which didn't really work.
Again, we see people using collapsing models.
The mastermind, your models collapsing that you're using.
Yes, you have to.
Yes, that's right.

(02:06:30):
We made a point to mention him.
The mastermind has needs to take his pieces
and either put them in Photoshop or someplace
to to brighten them up.
Get rid of the you have a they're
dull.
Yeah, they're very dull.
And it's not a big deal.
You can put them in a Photoshop and

(02:06:51):
there's a couple of filters.
You can just pop, make them pop.
But it's just interesting to see that there's
model collapse, whatever you're using.
There's been one or two models that I
don't know what he's using, but it's getting
worse.
It's muddy.
This is the worst I've ever seen it.
It's getting worse.
And the more this is out there, that
getting worse.
It's just bad.
No, you are so optimistic about your.

(02:07:13):
I am.
Why don't you go live with Sam Albin?
I'm sure he'd love to have you.
Why don't you just go hang out?
Get a room with Sam Altman.
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What was the name of that phone?
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First Sir David Killian.
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They're eating the dogs.
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That was pretty funny.
John Stewart.
I don't have a clip.
I should probably get a clip from it.
He's like he doesn't understand why Trump hasn't
gone after him yet.

(02:18:35):
Hey, man, come after me.
I mean, man, I'm being ignored over here
on Comedy Central Mondays.
Yes, I need the attention.
Come on, Trump.
You hate me.
What happened?
You don't hate me anymore.
It's no good.
I need one of those comeback shows like
Jimmy Kimmel had.
Please.

(02:18:56):
Pathetic.
That is that's pretty pathetic.
Very pathetic.
As if.
Yeah, right.
I mean, the networks are just dying with
these late night shows and they're not making
any money.
They're high budget.
Hundreds of people working there and they're trying
to get rid of him.
So let's blame Trump.
Yeah, and even that backfired.
Yeah, that didn't even work.

(02:19:16):
So Kimmel pulled a stunt and ended up
still on the air.
And the Disney guys have got to be
shaking their heads saying, what do we have
to do to get rid of this guy
and do something that makes us some money?
Yeah, maybe he should be suicided by Israel.
There you go.
Give Israel a call.

(02:19:38):
Call Mossad 1-800-MOSAAD.
Hey, this story, and maybe I'm wrong, but
if I recall, isn't Chevron leaving California?
Was it Chevron?
I didn't say that.

(02:19:58):
No, I'm asking.
No, they're closing the Richmond refinery and the
refinery that got itself in trouble is the
El Segundo refinery, the big boy down in
Southern California.
Wouldn't that wouldn't that make for a perfect
withdrawal from California altogether?

(02:20:20):
Yeah, well, yeah, but it didn't really destroy
the refinery.
It just made a mess.
Well, if you listen to this report overnight,
a massive explosion at a Chevron refinery, sending
a massive fireball into the night sky.
Firefighters rushing to the scene in El Segundo,
California around 930 last night, trying to tackle
that gigantic blaze.

(02:20:41):
Several fires burning within the facility.
Yeah, we have heavy flames showing from the
refinery.
I'll need a truck company with a massive
frame to respond to this.
Towering flames and billowing smoke turning the night
sky red.
The inferno could be seen for miles.
That blast so strong, residents say they thought
it was an earthquake or a plane crash.

(02:21:03):
That was terrible explosion.
Very loud terrible house like more than any
earthquake ever before.
Terrible control for sure.
And we didn't know what was going to
happen next.
Those residents were told to stay indoors and
shelter in place after concerns about the air
quality.
There are several massive flames coming from the
refinery.

(02:21:23):
That right there appears to be the epicenter
of this explosion that occurred.
At times, it seemed like the fire was
under control and then it would flare back
up again.
Smoke traveling to nearby LAX, blanketing the planes
on the tarmac.
That oil refinery is the largest on the
West Coast, spanning two square miles.

(02:21:43):
It supplies more than 40 percent of the
jet fuel and more than 20 percent of
the motor vehicle fuel for Southern California.
Not yet clear what caused this explosion, but
no injuries have been reported.
I'm just saying if I wanted to get
out of California altogether and with the big
F.U. Like, oh, our plant blew up.
Get some insurance coverage.

(02:22:07):
Yeah, it's probably not a bad idea.
Just thinking.
It's a concept.
And the property is worth a lot of
money.
You could resell it.
You'd have to do a cleanup first.
Take a while, especially after years and years
of making leaded fuel.
California Riviera, baby.
Right there.
It's beautiful.

(02:22:28):
It's a nice spot.
Yeah.
I just thought that to be rather suspicious.
Yeah, this happened before there, though.
Suspicious.
They have some maintenance.
Chevron's always been sloppy.
Here's my story about the maintenance at these
places.
So I worked at these refineries and I
was an inspector at Chevron in Richmond, but

(02:22:49):
I worked at the Union Oil refinery and
there used to be this big thing before
it was taken over by the cheapies that
own it now.
When Union Oil had it, they used to
paint their tanks all these pastel colors.
It was a very pretty sight when you
drove through it.
Did you see that when you landed at
LAX?
Was that a different place?
No, we're talking about up here.
Oh, OK.

(02:23:10):
And it's relating to Chevron to talk about
their fact that they're cheap with their maintenance.
Yeah.
This is a roundabout story.
I don't have to tell it.
Yeah, you do.
So they used to paint their tanks.
And so when I started as an inspector
at Chevron, their tanks were all rust buckets.
They were just looked terrible.
It was an embarrassment when you looked at

(02:23:31):
it.
My God, this place is a wreck because
the tanks were all rusting and falling apart.
So I talked to one of the managers
about this and compared to the Union place
where they painted the tanks beautiful pastel colors
and they kept painting them and maintaining them.
And he said there was a cost analysis
that Chevron did that showed that, yes, you

(02:23:51):
can the tanks will stay in place a
longer time.
But the cost of maintaining them with the
paint actually is more expensive than letting them
rust, fall apart and rebuilding a new tank.
That sounds like the American way.
The American way.
And so and so then over time, what
was the irony of the whole thing was

(02:24:13):
that Chevron, because they were getting so much
grief for these ugly looking rust that rusted
out tanks had the perfect solution.
Instead of painting the tanks white and letting
them rust, they painted them rust colored.
I have to blend in.
It was genius.

(02:24:34):
Oh, that's great.
I'm glad you told that story.
That was worth it.
They're very pretty.
The rust colored tanks are really pretty.
So it's just like, OK, well, that works.
I mean, they blow up, but otherwise, well,
they rust out and leak and it's a
mess.
Oh, that's good.
That was well worth the well worth it.

(02:24:54):
I like that.
You got some other errant stuff here.
I got to talk about COVID, the bullcrap
long COVID clip.
Oh, let's do Diddy.
Let's do Diddy.
That's just the one.
Yeah, that's just a summary of what happened
with Diddy.
Sean Combs has been sentenced to more than

(02:25:16):
four years in prison after a lengthy hearing
in Manhattan yesterday.
The rapper, producer and businessman was convicted in
July on two prostitution related charges.
Khloe Malas has covered the Combs trial for
NBC News.
She joins us from an airport now.
Thanks for being with us.
Thanks for having me.
Good morning.

(02:25:37):
He was acquitted of the most serious charges,
sex trafficking and racketeering.
What are the two charges of which he's
now been found guilty?
Those are two counts of something called the
Mann Act.
It's transportation to engage in prostitution, and he
was found guilty by the jury over the
summer of those two counts.
But like you said, he was acquitted of

(02:25:57):
the more serious charges, which he faced a
life in prison sentence if convicted on those.
Well, tell us more about this sentence of
about four years, because the judge could have
handed down something lengthier, couldn't he?
So the judge could have given Combs up
to 10 years on each count of the
Mann Act, which means he could have faced

(02:26:18):
up to 20 years in federal prison.
The judge giving him four years and two
months is actually quite a surprise because it
is less than what the probation department recommended,
which was between five and seven years.
Now, it is not what Combs' legal team
wanted, which was 14 months.
I actually spoke to one of his attorneys,

(02:26:39):
Brian Steele, last night outside of the courthouse
following the judge's decision, and they said that
they were very disappointed in this and that
all they want is Combs to come home
and that they plan to appeal.
We certainly heard a lot from Sean Combs'
alleged victims during the trial.
How did they receive news of the sentence?

(02:27:01):
One of the first individuals to react to
the news of Combs' sentence was Cassie Ventura,
his longtime girlfriend, who was a key witness
in this trial.
And in a statement through her attorney, she
says that nothing can undo this trauma.
But basically, this is a step in the
right direction, that this shows the serious nature

(02:27:21):
of his crimes.
So they need to get this guy back
doing those beats.
You know, yeah, bitches, that's right.
You got to get some beats going on
to PSYOP the kids.
This pisses me off, actually.
Why?
My friend, the ER doctor who worked through
COVID as an ER doctor, who got PSYOP

(02:27:42):
during COVID into a Medicare scam, honeypotted.
Yeah, your guy, the guy there.
Yeah, honeypotted by the Justice Department itself, pretending
to be patients.
This guy was an ER doctor, not sophisticated
in scams.
He's serving 10 years for like a couple
hundred thousand dollars over several years, which he

(02:28:05):
legitimately did not, had no way of knowing
it was a scam.
And this guy walks with four.
This, this is dumb.
Yeah, I guess you, I think you're right.
I mean, that bothers me.
That bothers me.
I'm going to go visit him again in
November.
Talk to my Metallica boys.
They're the guards.

(02:28:26):
Hey boys, I'm coming.
So there is a, I have a series
of clips from, I think it's PBS.
I'm not sure, but it's about long COVID
and it's a bunch of BS, it seems
to me.
Okay.
And it finishes with what I call the
crock.

(02:28:47):
Long COVID.
So long COVID, let's just establish whatever you
think.
And by the way, you don't have to
email me because I guess whenever we talk
about long COVID, people tell me it's real.
And I'm not saying that it's not real,
that you don't feel something and you feel
bad or you have something, but calling it
long COVID is bullcrap.
It's a cop-out.

(02:29:09):
Well, it keeps, I believe after listening to
this, these clips and listening about log and
COVID over the five years, I believe it
to be part of a effort to keep
the word COVID in play so you can
sell more vaxxers, especially the new super spike
or whatever it's called.

(02:29:30):
Moderna's big spike.
A lot of people have chronic fatigue disease.
That's real.
But even one of the guys here who
goes to our church, he's in his late
forties, I think.
Maybe 50.
And he was diagnosed with, oh, it's long

(02:29:50):
COVID.
But really he had a heart arrhythmia, you
know?
And so it's like, just say long COVID
for everything.
Yeah, the COVID triggered it, probably.
Maybe.
I mean, or the vax, it triggered it.
No, no, no, not vax, not vax.
Cookies, not vax.
But did he ever have COVID?
Well, you know, a lot of people here

(02:30:11):
test.
So who knows?
Oh, I have COVID.
So I don't know.
Okay, well.
Did he think he had COVID?
Yeah, for sure.
So here we go with the long COVID
BS.
And the thing is, it's two things, keeping
COVID in the public brain and then also
money.

(02:30:31):
Yes.
It's been more than two years since the
pandemic ended, but millions of Americans are still
living with long COVID.
That's a catch-all term for COVID symptoms
lasting at least three months after testing positive.
Symptoms can vary from person to person, but
they range from mild to severe to physically
disabling.
Recently, Health Secretary Robert F.

(02:30:52):
Kennedy, Jr. kicked off new efforts to address
long COVID with a roundtable discussion with doctors,
researchers, and patient advocates.
In the past, the response to epidemics of
this kind has been to pump a lot
of money into ivory tower science to try
to solve the problem.
We've already put $1.5 billion into NIH

(02:31:15):
to solve long COVID, and we've got literally
nothing from it.
Ali Rogin spoke to two members of the
long COVID community.
Dr. Michael Peluso, a physician and researcher at
UC San Francisco, who attended that roundtable meeting,
and Megan Stone, the executive director of the
long COVID campaign.
So can I get the zip code for

(02:31:37):
the long COVID community?
Yeah, the long COVID community.
It's just south of you.
Yeah, community.
All right.
All right, go on.
Michael and Megan, thank you both so much
for joining us.
Michael, first to you, we just heard Secretary
Kennedy say that there's been nothing to show
for HHS's investment so far in long COVID

(02:31:59):
research.
What do you say to that?
Well, I think many of us agree that
progress has really been too slow.
There are a lot of patients really suffering.
A lot of disability, a huge economic cost.
At the same time, there's a lot of
commitment on the part of clinicians caring for

(02:32:20):
patients with long COVID, researchers really trying to
figure out the answers for these patients.
What I think we need, and what I
hope that this roundtable will be the beginning
of, is a really clear, both a short
-term plan and a long-term plan for
figuring this out.
We need a broader, organized strategy.
What would make up, Michael, sticking with you,

(02:32:43):
that long and short-term plan in order
to make this strategy work?
What's needed?
There are actually three specific things that I
advocated for at this meeting, and I think
that there was broad agreement on these things.
The first is real investment, real investment, real
investment in a diagnostics and biomarker program, both

(02:33:05):
to help people get a diagnosis of long
COVID in the clinic, but also to help
us identify individuals who may benefit from a
specific treatment strategy or for participation in a
specific clinical trial.
The second thing that we really need is
a rapid scale up of the number of

(02:33:26):
clinical trials that are happening.
We've seen some improvements, some increase in the
number of clinical trials over the last couple
of years, but I'd like to see a
dozen more clinical trials right now testing all
of the different possible leads for what might
cause long COVID and how we might help
people feel better.
Translation, we don't really know what it is

(02:33:48):
either.
It's just, it's pathetic.
But give me some money and I can
tell you what it is.
Money, money, money.
Money, money, money.
And then the third thing that we really
need to help that happen is we need
the pharmaceutical industry to get off the sidelines
and to really commit to participating in clinical
trials, putting their drugs up for testing, investing

(02:34:11):
deeply in this problem so that we can
get answers for people who are really debilitated
from this condition.
Megan, as somebody who is a patient and
an advocate, how are you feeling about the
commitments that have been announced recently?
Well, right now today, there's about 20 million
Americans just like me who are living with
long COVID and many of us were in

(02:34:31):
the prime of our careers and lives and
now are disabled and chronically ill.
And so the administration's announcements that Secretary Kennedy
made were welcome.
It was really good to see the HHS
secretary having a high-level meeting, bringing together
all the parts of government that we really
need to work together to find a solution.
That's really what we need to see so

(02:34:52):
that parents like myself can get back to
volunteering at our kids' schools.
We can go back to our workplaces and
patients can finally get the tests and the
treatments that we've been waiting over five years
for now.
I'm just going to guess that your final
clip should not be three minutes and 10
seconds.
Let me take a look.
Probably not.

(02:35:13):
Generally speaking, I can explain how that happens
once in a while, but I'm not going
to.
No, why bother?
I'll tell you when to cut it off.
It'll be around, you know, we'll see.
Buck 20.
Megan, you've been working on these things and
advocating for your community for these five years.
Based on your experience, what are your hopes

(02:35:34):
for what happens next?
And also, where do your concerns lie?
By the way, this is so scripted.
I mean, you can hear an NPR show
or it's PBS scripted.
By the way, when I play the boing,
it'll be over.
Surprise.
Years.
Based on your experience, what are your hopes
for what happens next?

(02:35:55):
And also, where do your concerns lie?
Like many patients, the Long COVID campaign has
been calling for biomarkers so that we can
do research and figure out if treatments are
going to work and hopefully get a test
so that people in the United States, Americans
who are disabled, can more easily qualify for
disability, that we can see insurance coverage.
We really want to see the FDA move

(02:36:17):
more quickly.
And we're hoping with these announcements from the
administration that we'll see them more rapidly approve
clinical trials with the endpoints that we need
and then work together on approving treatments and
therapies that families and Americans living with Long
COVID urgently need.
We didn't see the progress we needed under
the Biden administration.
And I know so many patients are ready

(02:36:37):
to work with this administration in an earnest
way to actually solve this problem.
And for both of you, COVID-19 and
Long COVID are things that many Americans have
quite simply moved on from.
And yet there are many, many more people
who are living with this every single day.
First to you, Michael, what do you want
people who haven't been affected by Long COVID

(02:37:00):
to know about this community?
I think it's really important that people understand
that this can often be an invisible disease
and that there are a lot of people
really suffering and really debilitated by it.
And, you know, I think that the investment
in addressing this problem is likely to have
benefits that extend beyond this problem.

(02:37:23):
Long COVID is a really, really challenging disease
to study, to research, to treat, and it'll
be a big problem to solve.
But I think that if we have the
resources and the strategy and the long-term
plan to do it, this should be a
problem that we can solve.
And Megan?
Americans may feel like the pandemic's over or

(02:37:43):
that COVID is in the rearview mirror, but
even in just the last few months, we
saw the announcement that Long COVID is now
the most common childhood illness in the United
States.
It even surpassed asthma.
So it's still...
What?
It surpassed asthma?
The most common childhood disease in America is

(02:38:05):
now Long COVID.
When did that happen?
When you're a kid, you can't even get
COVID.
It's almost impossible, but somehow it's become the
number one childhood disease, surpassing asthma.
According to these jermokes, I'd like to see
some data on that.

(02:38:27):
Give me your Taylor Swift phony story.
What is this Taylor Swift?
Okay, this is...
You know, they have to talk about Taylor
Swift on NPR.
Of course!
Because it's Taylor Swift.
But this is kind of...
I consider this, even though they kind of
couch it as like a positive thing, she's
a good marketing woman and all this and

(02:38:48):
that.
But this to me just says she's a
big phony.
Taylor Swift talks about her musical and personal
style in eras.
Researchers say those eras have also influenced how
she speaks.
Matthew Wynn of the University of Minnesota co
-authored a study that analyzed her speech from
2008 to 2019.
As a person moves to different cities and

(02:39:10):
different communities, they have motivation to change how
they speak.
While most people don't record themselves from location
to location, Swift's career allowed for that.
We have this timeline of her voice throughout
the years.
Swift was raised in Pennsylvania, then moved to
Nashville.
Wynn analyzed this clip of Swift speaking from
her time in Nashville.

(02:39:31):
My role models in country music are Shania
Twain, Faith Hill, Dixie Chicks.
Part of what it means to be a
country musician is to speak with that southern
accent.
And just to make sure that she was
welcomed into that community, maybe that was something
that helped that process.
When Swift released Red in 2012, her speech
seemed to change.
A return to her Pennsylvania accent seemed evident

(02:39:52):
in a live webcast in 2013.
A huge inspiration from my imagination.
She was exiting country music and entering pop
music, where a southern accent wouldn't have necessarily
fit in as well.
Then, after she moved to New York, the
pitch of her voice dropped, as in this
2019 interview with CBS Sunday Morning.
And he has 300 million reasons to conveniently

(02:40:14):
forget those conversations.
Wynn explains.
This was a time when she was being
much more vocal about social and political issues
and the autonomy of musicians over their own
work.
And so I think she did what a
lot of people do.
She took those issues very seriously.
She started speaking with a lower voice.
This was what university now?

(02:40:37):
Oh, I don't know.
Pennsylvania or something.
Taylor Swift talks about her musical and personal
style in eras.
Researchers say those eras have also influenced how
she speaks.
Matthew Wynn of the University of Minnesota, Co
-op, Minnesota.
If you go to the University of Minnesota,
drop out immediately.
They are misusing your tuition.

(02:40:58):
Well, this is like Harvard and having that,
that, that, that drag queen give a course
in.
In drag queenery.
Oh, what was the name?
She's got this crazy name.
Yeah, something that I guarantee that at least
five people in the control room will come
up with her name.
And it's a course in, it's just a

(02:41:20):
crazy nutball course.
And it's Harvard.
There it is.
There's coming.
Now I'm waiting for it.
I'm looking in there.
Did we have a clip?
No, I don't have a clip of that.
It's dumb.
So that's dumber than what I just played.
All right.
What you do have is you have a
podcast clip.

(02:41:40):
Let's end on a podcast clip.
I have a podcast clip podcast about Bucky's
noteworthy.
Oh, yeah, this is noteworthy.
That's why it's an afterthought of the noteworthy,
because I have a commentary about this clip.
This is about a podcast coming out.
That's going to spend an hour or two
talking about Bucky's.
All right.

(02:42:00):
All town in Southern Colorado.
There's a proposal to build a Bucky's, a
massive convenience store slash gas station known for
its beaver mascot and endless gas pumps.
The proposal has divided neighbors and cost officials
their jobs.
It's just all this wild human nature that

(02:42:21):
is erupted over a gas station and beaver
nuggets.
Why don't you just sit there and shut
your mouth and listen to what you say?
I'm Ben to Brooklyn on this episode of
Purplish from CPR News.
How plans for a Bucky's travel plaza sparked

(02:42:43):
a larger than life controversy.
Hit the button below now to start listening.
OK, you're noteworthy.
Mimi, of course, is running for office in
the Port Angeles area and runs into this
all the time, which is that the council
and the county commissioners and everybody in between,
you can present them with petitions.
You can have the places packed with people

(02:43:05):
that tell them to do this and that.
You see it in school boards.
You see it on YouTube videos.
And they refuse to act.
These local officials, for some reason, over the
last few decades, have not become responsive.
They've become unresponsive to the local communities.
And this Bucky's story, I'm sure, is exactly
the same.
This is completely out of control.

(02:43:26):
They've gotten something into their heads where they
don't have to listen to the public anymore.
Well, why would they?
That's why me, me, me, me, me, me,
me, me, me, me, for city council.
Thank you, Digitup.
The troll room is on the ball.
Headline, Harvard hires drag queen as visiting professor

(02:43:47):
in gender and sexuality studies.
New courses include Rue Politics, Drag Race and
Desire, and Queer Ethnography.
The name of the drag queen?
You ready?
Lahore Vajistan.
Yeah, a pun.

(02:44:08):
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(02:44:29):
John's tip of the day.
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And right now, we will thank the rest
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Of course, he's on the birthday list.
His birthday's on Saturday.
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That's my guess.

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Yes, I did.
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It's extremely salty.
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It has seed oils in it.
She looked at the back right away.
What's seed oils?
I'm not going to try this.

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Something to be said for that.
But we appreciate it, Natalie.
Thank you very much.
Much to be said, but okay.
Seed oils will kill you, man.
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He celebrated yesterday.
I guess we turned 55, didn't we?
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Aniston.
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You are now officially on the Peerage map.
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On the No Agenda Show.
I really wish we could get a redo
of that jingle.
People kept telling me it's wrong.
I know, it should be secretaries general.
I know.
Hey, John Bigelow, thanks for your support today.
You become a secretary general, my friend.

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And you gave us the name.
The name was...
Let me see.
Secretary gen- I'm sorry.
Not John Bigelow.
My mistake.
You named the wrong guy?
I named the wrong guy.
I'm sorry.
The wrong- It's, uh, Matthew Lomar.
That's who I meant.
I'm a little confused.
It's Bigelow.
Yeah, a little confused in the control room.

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Matthew Lomar, congratulations.
You shall now firmly be known as secretary
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On the No Agenda Show.
There, now we got Bigelow.
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Got it.
Very nice.
Oh, that's a sharp one, too.
Hey, John Bigelow, pop up on the podium
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You, sir, are about to become knighted.
You will be a knight of the No

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Agenda Roundtable.
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Women and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka, vanilla,
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And as always, we've got the mutton and
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the Techni Basin.
No agenda meetups.
Well, we had a couple of parties going
on in the past couple of days.
We have a meetup report.
Leo Bravo out there in Los Angeles.
They just they never quit.
The Los Angelinos, they just stay there, keep
meeting.
This is flight number 67 of the no

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agenda.
Yo, yo, yo, it's Leo Bravo at meetup
number 67.
The crew has things to say.
This is Myra from Mocholo.
Come join us anytime after 11 a.m.
This is Eric reporting from downtown Los Angeles,
where there's nothing happening on the streets except
for Comic-Con going on across the street.
And we're here all dressed as furries, pawing

(02:52:02):
our Mexican food in the morning.
Oh, OK.
Now we go to Indiana.
Damon always puts together a great meetup report
because there's always a lot of people at
the indie meetups.
This is day Maria and Sir Mark.
We are so happy to be back in
Indiana with our family here.
It's amazing.
In the morning, this is Sir Rupert of

(02:52:23):
the Maple, and today was a hot meetup
due to climate change.
Gary here.
Sorry I've been gone for the last few
months, but my reprogramming for Spook has taken
a little longer than I thought.
Hey, this is Emily.
And if we keep saying four more years,
we essentially have y'all at least seven
months into the next administration.
So four more years.
Bruce here just drinking some beers with Emily
the Fed.
Nader from Indianapolis.

(02:52:43):
I'm here, should not have ate that whole
pizza, but it's still good to see Mark
and Maria.
In the morning, this is Matt.
Finally driven in from the wilds of Southeast
Indiana.
Only Mark and Maria could bring me back
from my ranch out in the woods.
Dame Trinity having a great time in Indy.
It is great to see Mark and Maria
back in the States.
In the morning, John and Adam.
Sir PBR Street Gang here from Fort Wayne.

(02:53:04):
Loving to see Mark and Maria back again.
This is Ted from Batesville, part of the
Walking Wounded.
Glad to see Mark and Maria back here.
This is Chris from Indianapolis.
Newbie.
Just came for the free wine.
There's free wine?
Oh, this is David, and I'm from Illinois.
My first meetup in Indy.
Glad to be here.
In the morning.
In the morning, Dame Swanee.
I'm next to Sir David, who just won

(02:53:25):
the raffle.
I didn't.
Sir Vinny here, and I'm sitting next to
the most fabulous Dame Swanee I could ever
imagine.
In the morning, John and Adam.
This is Nick.
There's a lot of pressure for me to
be funny, so I'm just going to say
Cash Patel's eyeballs.
Hey, this is Brady at the Blind Owl,
playing crowd control over these crazy folks.
Maybe some of you guys can get your
servers to partake a little bit.

(02:53:45):
In the morning.
See you in Valhalla.
Okay, wonderful.
Hey, there's a meetup taking place on Thursday.
It is the Dakota Tavern in Parker, Colorado
on the 9th.
That's Thursday.
Thirsty Thursday at Dakota Tavern.
Kicks off at 5.30 p.m. And
coming up, we've got the Johnson City, Texas

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meetup on October 10th, followed by the Fredericksburg,
Texas meetup on October 11th.
Going to be a lot of No Agenda
superstars there.
I'm sure Sir Dirty Jersey Whore will be
there.
I think Sir Mark the Filmmaker is going
to be there.
Tina the Keeper will be there.
I'll be there at the same time.
October 11th, Garden City, Idaho meetup.
Charlotte, North Carolina on the 16th.

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Colleyville, Texas on the 18th.
Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 18th.
Columbus, Ohio on the 18th.
Lansing, Michigan on the 19th.
Los Altos, California on the 25th.
Camp Hill, Pennsylvania on the 26th.
And Berlin, Deutschland.
This has to be some kind of illegal
move.
They're going to do a meetup and talk
about things.
That's October 27th.
Send us a report.

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Light in the Netherlands on the 31st, going
into November.
Albany, California, get John out of the house
meetup on the 15th.
And January 3rd, we already have a meetup
on the book Santa Rosa, California.
Those are just a few of the No
Agenda meetups which you can find at noagendameetups
.com.
Go there because you will love these meetups.
Connection is protection.
You get it at the meetup.

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The people who will be your first responders
in an emergency.
noagendameetups.com If you can't find one near
you, start one yourself.
Sometimes you want to go hang out with
all the nights and days.
You want to be where you won't be
triggered or held to blame.
You want to be where everybody feels the

(02:55:30):
same.
It's like a party.
Always like a party.
Guaranteed to delight.
Time for our ISO off.
ISO off, ISO off, ISO off, ISO off.
We both have two, I see.
Except one of yours is named Oso.
Your spelling mistakes are getting better with the

(02:55:53):
years.
They're funnier.
I actually thought that was a different podcast
clip you had.
Like Oso.
Oh, it's an ISO.
I see.
It's really short.
I got it.
Okay, I'll play mine.
Then we'll play yours.
See which one we choose for the end
of the show.
Here's my first.
Utterly breathtaking.
Non-AI and utterly breathtaking.
Or this one.
This is a big one.

(02:56:14):
All right.
What do you have?
Those are tough.
Yeah, thank you.
Well, I have a way.
I don't do AI.
I've got ISO hosts.
This show gets better with age.
Like the hosts.
Not AI at all.
Gee, you fooled me, John.

(02:56:34):
Yeah, the show gets better with age like
the hosts.
This show gets better with age like the
hosts.
Okay, speak for yourself.
And there's the one.
Best podcast.
Best podcast.
I can go with this one.
This show gets better with age like the
hosts.
I can go with that one.

(02:56:54):
Yeah, of course you can.
That's cute.
Of course I can.
Hey, everybody.
Here it is.
It's John's tip of the day.
I do this about six of these a
year, and this is a wine tip.

(02:57:15):
Oh, good.
We love a John C.
Dvorak wine.
It's a cheap wine that I have it
every so often.
And every time I have it, I say,
why don't I plug this wine?
It's interesting because I'll give you a little
backstory about some of these cheap California wines
that are done by Gallo.
And they bring out this fabulous wine that

(02:57:37):
the turning leaf was a good example.
If you can remember back that far, came
out as a Cabernet.
It was like 10 bucks, nine bucks.
Tastes like a $50 wine.
And then the next year tastes kind of
like a $20 wine.
And then the next year tastes like a
$5 wine.
And then they fold it, but they made
lots of money.
I bet they did.

(02:57:58):
So this is different.
These guys have yet to have dropped the
quality of this product.
This is a screwball wine that I think
came out of that.
This came out of a bunch of purchases.
I actually have a bottle here that Robert
Mondavi did before he died.
Oh, Robert.
Robert Mondavi.
This is a Robert Mondavi wine.

(02:58:19):
And he bought a bunch of California wineries
all over the place to use as estate
taxes.
So he could just dump the wineries and
the kids would still have the main winery.
But it turned out that the president changes
whatever happened.
He ended up with owning these places and
they changed the names of them.
And I don't remember which one this was
specifically, but it's one of the Valley wines

(02:58:40):
from San Joaquin Valley, I think.
But it's sold as Robert Mondavi.
And I'll tell you what it says on
the label.
And it's like nine bucks.
Maybe up to 12 some places.
Can I get it at Costco?
Costco will have it, but all kinds of
places have it.
They make a ton of it.

(02:59:01):
And it's a black label wine called Robert
Mondavi Private Selection.
Which is always a giveaway for what?
Come on, nine bucks, 10 bucks.
And it's a black label?
Isn't it always black?
It's a black label wine.
Isn't it always black label?
No, Robert Mondavi has a tan label.
Well, this always has a black label because
it's not really Robert Mondavi.

(02:59:22):
It's not an apple wine.
It's not made there either.
But it says Robert Mondavi.
It just says Robert Mondavi.
Robert Mondavi Private Selection.
Bourbon Barrel Aged Cabernet Sauvignon.
Ooh, that's very popular.
And this wine for a year, I've been
drinking this on and off for about five
years as a kind of just a quick

(02:59:44):
wine.
If you want to have a dinner, a
hamburger wine.
After breakfast.
After breakfast, hamburger wine is good for eggs.
Hamburger wine.
It's a total hamburger wine.
And it is just, it's got, for a
California wine, it's dark.
It's got some Cabernet character.
It's got a lot of oak and it's
a bourbon style oak.

(03:00:04):
If you don't like oak, don't get this
wine.
But if you like oaky wines, this is
a very well-made wine.
I'm going to see if H-E-B
has it.
I'll talk to Matt at H-E-B.
And I will tell him to push it.
I'll say, I'll tell him to put like
one of those, you know.
A sticker.
Put a sticker on it.
John C.
Dvorak Tip of the Day wine.
I'm telling you, we should have those.

(03:00:25):
John C.
Dvorak Tip of the Day wine.
There it is.
Find all of John's tips at tipoftheday.net.
What a good one.
And sometimes, Adam.
Created by Dana Brunetti.
Wow.
I always love it when you do a
good wine tip.

(03:00:47):
Especially when they're cheap, which are most of
your wine tips, actually.
No, I try to keep them cheap.
And they have to be readily available, too.
I mean, you just can't have, you know,
something up sour.
I can't wait.
I'm going to go to H-E-B
tomorrow and say, hey man, I need that
Robert Maldow, the private selection black label barrel.
Bourbon barrel.
Bourbon barrel age.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's very popular here in Texas.

(03:01:08):
The bourbon barrel age, along with Texas heritage
wine, whatever that means.
Hey, we're going to end the show.
Mixes from B-dubs and Jeffrey Crocker.
And coming up next on the No Agenda
streams, abs in a six pack.
It'll be episode number 270.
We need another live show after our live

(03:01:29):
show.
Where are the live shows, people?
Give us a live show.
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country, soon to be the place
of another meetup here at J6 or Jenny's
place, Fredericksburg, Texas.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain,
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
Meet us here again on Thursday.
We'll do it all over again for you

(03:01:50):
with more media deconstruction.
Until then, remember us at noagenda donations.com.
Adios, mofos.
A hooey hooey.
And such.
Good evening, Mari.
What is the White House saying about the
government shutdown?
Tiff, good evening.
Yes, the White House is blaming Democrats for

(03:02:11):
the government shutdown, saying that it impacts active
duty troops, critical food assistance, and flood insurance
as we enter hurricane season.
Republicans thought that they could barrel us into
a shutdown.

(03:02:37):
He's an idiot.
He's an idiot.
What is he talking?
What's a barrel?
Oh, the Republicans are trying to barrel us.
They can't barrel us.
They can't barrel us.

(03:02:58):
Ladies and gentlemen, if you take a sixpence,
which in Deutsch is Fuhrenzwanzig Pfennig, and you
go on the bus upstairs...
The omnibuses, the omnibuses we have put on
the table so far will make a real
difference.
Make no mistake.

(03:03:18):
For our future, we have to massively boost
the omnibuses.
The omnibuses.
The truth is that the world of today

(03:03:41):
is unforgiving.
And it is for all these reasons companies
and consumers alike and the omnibuses are on
their way.
For example, military mobility or on the digital.

(03:04:05):
They can feel the ground shift beneath them.
We simply cannot wait for this storm to
pass.
The omnibuses.
It is for all these reasons that a
new Europe must emerge.

(03:04:27):
The omnibuses.
But people will love the slop.
Oh, this baby loves the slop.
Loves it, eats it up.
Hates the slop.
Born to slop.
Born to slop.
Hates the slop.
There they are, pigs.
They want more slop.

(03:04:49):
Born to slop.
Hates the slop.
This baby loves the slop.
Give me slop.
Give me slop.
I love it.
I'm a pig.
Give it to me.
Born to slop.

(03:05:10):
Oh, this baby loves the slop.
We're like pigs.
We're like pigs.
Give me slop.
Give me slop.
Born to slop.
Born to slop.
Hates the slop.
Hates the slop.

(03:05:32):
The best podcast in the universe.
Adios, mofo.
Dvorak.org slash N-A This show gets
better with age.
Like the hosts.

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