1806 - "Gray Zone" - No Agenda Show

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I love the cans.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Thursday, October 9th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Kibonish Media Assassination
episode 1806.
This is no agenda.
The Queen survives!
And we're broadcasting live from the heart of
the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region
number 6.

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In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're wondering
whatever happened to the ham burglar?
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
Did he go away?
Did they remove the ham burglar from the
McDonald's franchise?
That's what I said.
I'm wondering, whatever happened to the ham burglar?
I don't know.

(00:41):
I always liked the ham burglar.
Maybe it was too scary.
The ham burglar actually is the guy that
Google put into Chrome that is sneaking through
your computer screen when you reach a non
-SSL encrypted website.
That is the actual ham burglar.
You know what I'm talking about?

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Yeah.
That's the guy.
So, news from Fredericksburg.
Everybody's very, very upset here.
Very worried.
Very concerned.
Oh, this is always a dead topper.
Might as well start the show with Fredericksburg
gossip.
Might as well.
Not just Fredericksburg, but Nashville, Memphis.
Everybody's very, very, very worried about Dolly Parton.

(01:27):
Oh, yes.
Dolly Parton's sick.
Dolly Parton.
Well, no.
Let's hear what she has to say.
She is most definitely America strong.
Most definitely.
Dolly Parton with her new message tonight.
She knows many awards.
Was this guy a black athlete from playing
for a football team?
Huh?
Well, I don't understand the reference.
They always say most definitely.
So, how'd you do in today's game?

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Did you do well?
Most definitely.
They're always saying most definitely.
Oh, interesting.
It's the stupidest phrase.
I hate it.
Okay.
Show title, most definitely.
I'll write it down.
Dolly Parton with her new message tonight.
She knows many are worried about her health.
So, here tonight, Dolly, in her own words.

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I wanted to say I know lately everybody
thinks that I am sicker than I am.
Do I look sick to you?
I'm working hard here.
Anyway, I wanted to put everybody's mind at
ease, those of you that seem to be
real concerned, which I appreciate.
But I want you to know that I'm
okay.
I've got some problems, as I mentioned.

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The doctor said we need to take care
of this.
We need to take care of that.
Nothing major.
But I did have to cancel some things
so I could be closer to home, closer
to Vanderbilt, you know, where I'm kind of
having a few treatments here and there.
But I wanted you to know that I'm
not dying.
Vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.

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I'm begging of you, please don't hesitate.
Vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.
Because once you're dead, then that's a bit
too late.
I know I'm trying to be funny now,
but I'm dead serious about the vaccine.
And there it is.
I figured we'd start the show off with

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a bang.
That was good, yes.
I didn't know she did that little ditty.
Oh, yeah, we played it on the show.
It was part of the hamburglers when Cuomo
was offering burger and fries.
No, that was de Blasio.
I'm sorry, de Blasio, yes.
And what were the other things?
Movie tickets, all kinds of stuff.

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And then Dolly Parton got in on the
game.
There you go.
So I see.
Well, I guess that summarizes it.
Pretty much.
Later on, I do have a thing about
the vaccine court, but that's not for now.
You want to do your 3x3?
Because you got one.
It's always exciting.
The crowd is a crowd pleaser, a fan

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favorite.
Everybody always wants to know what's happening.
Now it's time for 3x3.
It is an experiment by JCD.
What do we do?
Comparing stories from ABC and ESN NBC.
The never-ending 3x3.
That's right, 3x3.
John's got the big headline news, 3x3, on
the big three networks.

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For as long as they're still on the
air, we might as well compare.
They'll be on the air for a while.
They're on the air?
They're on the air, so we compare.
Well, let's start with ABC.
ABC it is.
On President Trump's orders, a plane carrying 200
National Guard soldiers now heading from Texas to
Chicago against the wishes of the city's mayor
and the governor of Illinois.

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Let me be clear.
Donald Trump is using our service members as
political props and as pawns in his illegal
effort to militarize our nation's cities.
The president calls it a necessary part of
his crime crackdown.
But Governor J.B. Pritzker, who was fighting
back in court, calls it an unconstitutional invasion

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of the state of Illinois.
Trump and the thuggery that his agents have
brought has actively made us less safe.
The president tonight says that's just not true.
It's like a war zone.
And then I listen to the governor and
the mayor get up and say how they
have it under control.
They don't.
I believe that the Portland people are scared.
You look at what's happened with Portland over

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the years.
It's a burning hell hole.
But over the weekend, a judge President Trump
appointed himself says when it comes to Portland,
the president's assessment is, quote, simply untethered to
the facts, blocking the deployment of the Guard
in the city.
The president has focused on a group of
protesters that have camped outside a nice facility
in Portland.

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But Judge Karen Emmergut says those protesters are
not significantly violent or disruptive, adding this is
a nation of constitutional law, not martial law.
David, tonight, as these legal battles play out
in both Portland and Chicago, President Trump says
he's considering invoking the Insurrection Act using emergency
powers that would allow him to go around
the courts to deploy the National Guard to

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both of those cities.
David.
Yeah, and we should probably point out, we
got an e-mail from one of our
producers who was mad.
Like, you are laughing at what's happening in
Chicago.
They're terrorizing brown people.
And...
Yeah, he had some vague clips.
Yeah, he had clips of a guy blocking
ice, and they threw a smoke or tear

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grenade, and another black guy.
They arrested a guy.
Kidnapping, he called it.
Kidnapping.
I mean, the propaganda is strong on this
one.
Our own people are falling for it.
It's interesting.
Well, I ended up having to block that
guy.
Oh, I didn't.
It wound up okay.
No, then I got a nasty note.
He says I was a racist.

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Well, if you're going to...
You're not?
I'm sorry.
No, I am not a racist.
No.
No, well, yeah.
It was disappointing, to say the least.
Because his proof was literally none of that.
He's saying every brown person is afraid of
being rousted.
And then he said, here's proof.
And it was nothing.

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I think it's because you sent some crazy
libs of TikTok video back and said, here's
your proof.
I don't think that helped the conversation.
Well, I did throw a little kerosene on
the fire.
That's true, but...
Yeah, just a tad, maybe.
But I figured I could just block him
anyway, so...
All right.
Bye.
Okay, well, let's move on.

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That was ABC?
Yes.
I believe we had NBC's lined up.
Protests over immigration raids escalating in Chicago.
Tonight, federal prosecutors charging an alleged gang member
with soliciting the murder of an unnamed senior
law enforcement official taking part in immigration enforcement
there, saying Juan Espinoza Martinez posted in Snapchat,
10K if you take him down.

(07:51):
Authorities tonight also searching for the driver of
this black SUV that the Department of Homeland
Security says repeatedly rammed into ICE agents in
the white truck.
While at a separate event, police appearing to
be tear gassed, though not injured, all as
President Trump faces new legal battles in his
efforts to deploy National Guard troops to two
more cities.
Donald Trump's deranged depiction of Chicago as a

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hellhole was just complete BS.
After a federal judge blocked the president from
deploying Oregon's National Guard to Portland, where protests
against ICE have been escalating...
Go home!
Tonight, Chicago and the state of Illinois suing
to try and prevent President Trump's deployment of
troops there.
There was never an insurrection or an invasion

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on the ground that justified the deployment of
the military to our American city.
Though tonight, the president saying he'd consider invoking
the Insurrection Act.
Well, I'd do it if it was necessary.
So far, it hasn't been necessary.
We have to make sure that our cities
are safe.
As the White House blasts Democratic officials...
That's literally the quote they're using to say

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he's threatening with the Insurrection Act.
That's the quote?
Yeah.
Wow.
American city.
He didn't say he's considering it.
He didn't say that.
He said, I'd do it if it was

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necessary.
He didn't say, I'm considering it.
And then he says, I don't see it
as necessary.
Yeah.
Justified the deployment to our American city.
We have to make sure that our cities
are safe.
As the White House blasts Democratic officials...

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...noting there were four homicides and 29 people
shot in Chicago this weekend.
But the governor saying ICE is the one
escalating tensions...
...pointing to this dramatic DHS video of a
recent late-night raid saying children were zip
-tied, which the agency denies.
Which I have still to see video of.

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Yeah.
And there was also this comment about him
being thrown out in the street naked.
Yeah.
Naked.
Yes.
Yeah.
You'd think somebody would be...
I mean, they're taping everything.
You'd think that somebody would put a camera
on that.
They're still taping?
Boomer?
Really?
They're still taping?
Well, I don't know how else you'd put
a video in.
Yeah, recording.
Videoing is just an awkward word.

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They just say recording, which kind of brings...
Recording.
Okay, there you go.
Yeah.
They're recording everything that they can.
And so you'd think that they would be
recording that.
But they're not recording that for some reason.
No.
No.
Let's don't record that.
So that's bullcrap.
But then we move on, of course, to

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the nothing to lose CBS.
Although, as we get into the Barry Weiss
discussion later, if we do it...
Yeah.
I don't think things are going to change
much.
But CBS has been bought out and taken
over by David Ellison's operation.
And so they either have nothing to lose...
Skydance.
Skydance?
Is it Skydance?

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Skydance.
Can I just say, that sounds pretty gay.
Skydance?
You know, like Tiny Dancer.
I always think of Elton John's...
It's a Hollywood operation, so it sure sounds
gay.
Oh, there you go.
Oh, sorry.
Ready for CBS?
So there's a fear that they're going to
turn into a right-wing operation because of

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whatever fear they have, even though they don't
have...
You can't find enough right-wing reporters.
They've all given up on that gig.
Yeah.
The whole thing is a joke.
But they're at the point where they're either
going to say, screw it, I'm going to
say what I feel like saying, or they're
going to back off.
We don't know yet, but CBS, this is
their report.

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For the last three weeks, clashes have erupted
outside the Broadview-Illinois Ice Processing Center.
Protesters say federal agents in riot gear used
pepper balls and tear gas to push them
back from the facility.
Dozens were detained as chaos spilled into the
street.
In this confrontation, a local rabbi who had
joined the demonstration was wrestled to the ground
by state police.

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Over the weekend, President Trump ordered 300 Illinois
National Guard troops to Chicago and up to
400 from the state of Texas.
It's like a war zone.
It's probably worse than almost any city in
the world.
But Illinois' Democratic governor, J.B. Pritzker, is
pushing back, joining the state and city in
a lawsuit to block that order.
Donald Trump's deranged depiction of Chicago as a

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hellhole, a war zone, and the worst and
most dangerous city in the world, was just
complete BS.
Hundreds of National Guard troops now on their
way.
Their mission, to protect the one city block
in Broadview where the Ice Processing Center is
located.
I'm Adam Yamaguchi outside the ice facility in
Portland, Oregon, where over the weekend Mayor Keith

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Wilson recently took us on a tour.
This is really the home of innovation.
That's always what Portland has been known for.
But in seeking to deploy National Guard troops,
the president has called the city war-ravaged
and on Sunday said this.
Portland is burning to the ground.
We often talk about protests, but they're huge
peaceful protests.
Mostly peaceful.

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I'm surprised.
I got a very different report from NBC,
from the nightly news, which expanded much more
on what Pritzker was saying.
Did you hear any of this?
Play it.
I'll tell you if I did.
National Guard troops are preparing to deploy to
the streets of Chicago as the war of
words between President Trump and Illinois' governor.
No, this is NBC.

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I think it's NBC.
No, that's David Muir.
Oh, then it's ABC.
Governor escalates.
President Trump calling for the jailing now of
Illinois' governor J.B. Pritzker.
Pritzker saying President Trump has dementia and has
something stuck in his head and he can't
get it out of his head.
Calling President Trump's move an unconstitutional invasion.
Alice Prez in Chicago.
This is good stuff.

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This is show material.
I missed that.
I didn't get the message.
No, wait.
You're going to get the full Monty.
Here, hold on.
Here it comes.
Tonight, with 500 members of the Texas and
Illinois National Guard preparing to fan out across
Chicago, charged with securing federal agents and properties,
the president ramping up his attack on the
mayor and the governor who called the deployment
an unconstitutional invasion.

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The president calling for their arrest in an
online post.
Chicago mayor should be in jail for failing
to protect ICE officers.
Governor Pritzker also.
Everything we're doing is very lawful.
What they're doing is not lawful.
But the governor calling the president a coward.
He's demented, literally, unhinged.
And this is somebody who's so insecure that

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he lashes out pretending that he can come
arrest people for no reason at all.
He can't.
In the last 24 hours, Pritzker saying the
president has dementia.
Aside from the fact that he's out of
his mind and has dementia, it's clear to
me that he is targeting Democratic cities.
Telling the Chicago Tribune, this is a man

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who's suffering dementia.
This is a man who has something stuck
in his head.
He can't get it out of his head.
He doesn't read.
He doesn't know anything that's up to date.
Man, it sounds like that podcast, the Taco
Tits podcast.
He's got something stuck in his head.
He doesn't read.
He doesn't do anything.
He doesn't know anything.
He's no good.
He's got dementia.

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Yeah, it was just a dumb report.
Yeah, but it was funny.
It was definitely funny.
Yeah, I like it.
ABC's off the rails.
They may be the worst of the group.
They've gotten worse.
They're worse than CBS.

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Well, it should all change.
Let's do Barry Weiss because that's, you know,
we talked about it when it was rumored,
and of course now the rumor appears to
be true, that Sky Dance has purchased Barry's
news outfit, her substack.
Yeah, I had a lunch with a friend
of mine, ex-boyfriend, he's a friend, but
he's been, I haven't seen him for a
decade.
He used to be at the Wall Street

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Journal, an entrepreneurial guy, and he's bitching about
this, and I had to harken back to
some of the things I witnessed when I
was at Ziff Davis with some of these
companies, and the fact that, you know, they
bought a, which is basically a blog, the

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Barry Weiss Free Press.
No, it's worse.
It's a substack.
It's actually on someone else's platform.
It's basically a blog.
Well, it's a blog on a blogging platform.
There you go.
And so, and I can't default substack.
I mean, I do a substack thing, and
they do a good job of getting their
stuff shipped, and so they spent 150 million

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bucks, but I don't believe it for a
minute.
My thinking is the following.
We need to get you over to CBS,
Barry, so what we're going to do is
we're going to buy you out, and we,
well, okay, you're going to buy me out.
How much do you think I can get
here?
Well, you know, we can give you a
couple million.
That would be reasonable.

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Okay, but can we do a deal here,
and you can make, can we both make
a joint announcement that's 150 million?
Well, maybe she got some stock.
No, she didn't get any, she didn't get
150 million, and so, in stock or anything,
and so, although you could do some stock,
you know, some kind of a scam-ish

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stock thing, you know that, and so, okay,
well, let's make that announcement, so this friend
of mine says, this is a public company,
you can't do that, and then my thinking
was, look, have you ever seen, for example,
just the, I don't know if people out
there get a copy of this, the Disney,
for example, the Disney org chart, with the

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thousands and thousands and thousands of little elements
that are involved, you don't think you can't
hide a couple million dollar transaction and then
put something somewhere else and make it look
like you actually, you know, bought it for
150, it's so, it's just creative bookkeeping, so
I don't believe for a second she got
150 million dollars.

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Hmm, has there been any official announcement that
it was 150 million dollars?
Yeah, it was announced over a couple of
times, it was said, they both said it
was, now, whether that, I didn't see it
on the, you know, it wasn't announced on
a 4K or anything that I know of,
but it's, maybe if it was in a
4K, I'd believe it, but I don't see
that.
But this is Skydance, not Disney, is Skydance

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public?
No, I'm just saying, no, I'm just, Paramount
has the same, I was just making the
point that if you look at the org
chart of these giant corporations and Disney being
the best example, you can hide it.
Hmm, yeah, yeah, put it under talent acquisition.
Or you could put it under any, it

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doesn't matter, the whole thing is just that
you can't find it, you can't find these
numbers.
So you can say you spent 150 million
and you gave her a couple mil, maybe,
and then she's off now doing the stuff
over, she'll be editor-in-chief.
And this is another little ditty that I
noticed.

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And the editor-in-chief, that is a
publisher's position.
There is no editor-in-chief at a
news organization on TV.
There's editorial directors, there's chief, you know, there's
all kinds of chief of this and chief
of that, or you can be the...
Well, hold on, hold on, this is an
important point.

(19:39):
If she's editor-in-chief, she may be
editor-in-chief of the blog.
Well, she's still always going to be that,
she said that.
But that's my point.
They specifically said editor-in-chief of CBS
News.
Yeah, okay, editor-in-chief of CBS News,
which is a meaningless title in the television

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news business.
So she actually won't be running the television
news division.
How about that?
I don't think she's going to be running
it at all because she's not even going
to be, the reporting system is off.
But I think she's going to have some
influence, but I don't think it's going to
be meaningful.
And I think I sent you a, I
don't have a clip from it, but I

(20:21):
sent you because it's so, you know, we're
talking about Glenn Greenwald, who's a little wordy
to say that, I mean, Mr. Wordy.
Oh, he hates Barry Weiss.
He doesn't like Barry Weiss at all.
He hates him.
And he says on his Rumble channel, Rumble
channel, the system, the system.
He says that she's just a pro-Israel,

(20:44):
anti-woke.
Shill.
Shill, who doesn't, she's no different than anybody
else that's working in media, period.
She's not going to shake things up, is
what his point was.
I think she's just in charge of the
CBS News blog.
I think that the title is correct.

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Well, that's a possibility, too.
But let's listen to these clips.
All right.
This is MPR?
NPR.
Minnesota Public, no, it's NPR.
I put NPR because I made the mistake
and I just copied it over.
That's no problem.
CBS News is expecting to get a new
editor-in-chief, Barry Weiss, the founder of

(21:26):
the Free Press, which she started as a
response to mainstream news outlets like her former
employer, the New York Times.
With that move, CBS seems to be taking
another step to appeal to the right.
And the parent company is also acquiring Barry
Weiss's publication.
NPR's David Folkenflik is here to discuss all
of this.
Hi there, David.
Good morning, Steve.
For those who don't know, who is Barry

(21:46):
Weiss?
So Barry Weiss is a writer and editor.
She started out writing for Tablet, a publication
about Jewish affairs.
She wrote about opinion in books and also
edited at the Wall Street Journal for its
opinions pages.
And she enjoyed the opinion pages of the
New York Times as sort of a right
-of-center contrarian, made a name for herself,
wrote increasingly under her own name, and then
left with a huge blast in July 2020.

(22:09):
It's sort of the peak of the social
justice movement.
She accused her colleagues in a letter she
posted publicly that she sent to the publisher
of the New York Times, A.G. Salzberger.
She accused her colleagues of bullying her and
creating essentially an illiberal atmosphere, unwilling to tolerate
debate and dissent in what she said was
the smothering culture there.
And created the Free Press kind of in
opposition to that as a home for people

(22:31):
right-of-center who saw the press, the
media writ large, as being reflexively somewhat liberal.
Somewhat.
Just a tad.
Just a little bit liberal.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
You know, the funny thing is, I don't
have this clip either.
I've got enough.
If you notice, I have enough clips.
Yeah, you've got 29 clips.
You're over-clipped?

(22:53):
So the, she had a little ditty.
It was on Twitter.
She went on and on about how, what's
happening.
And again, wordy.
She's just like Greenwald.
You can't, you know, yuck, yuck, yuck.
She says, and so we have our, and
she called the group of people that do
writing for the Free Press, that blog, she

(23:15):
calls them a band of misfits.
She used the term misfits to describe her
staff.
I thought that was like, personally, if I
was writing for her and I was, you
know, in other words, I can't get work.
I have to work for you.
I mean, I thought it was an insult,
a high insult that she just casually, you

(23:38):
know, blather off.
I was offended and I didn't even work
there.
Hey, she's got $150 million on paper.
Literally paper.
So it's called F-U money, baby.
F-U money.
You do whatever you want.
Yeah.
I get it.
I'd be like that too.
Well, there you have it.
Just go onward.

(24:00):
And she gained a lot from that departure
in the end, built up a brand new
organization, built up a big subscriber base, attracted
a lot of deep pocketed investors, and now
moves to a mainstream media organization.
But what exactly will she do there?
Well, it's a question I'm told by folks
inside the network that it's kind of fluid,
but she's editor-in-chief.
She certainly will be able to have almost
whatever remit she wants.

(24:21):
People aren't expecting her to take command of
logistics, deploying people to cover a war or
a hurricane or something.
She doesn't have experience in that kind of
complicated calibration and moves.
But I think she's going to be working
with Tom Sobrowski, who's staying on as the
president of CBS News, to kind of set
the tone to figure out the scope of
coverage, the nature of coverage, the tenor of
coverage.

(24:42):
You know, she can have a finger in
every pie.
She's still going to be running the Free
Press, which is this right-of-center publication
that will still have its brand separate from
CBS News.
But, you know, that's the question that I'm
hearing from folks inside.
They're like, is this going to be that
she's bringing a contrarian voice?
Or is she somehow, you know, as part
of the discussion of how coverage is set,

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or she's somehow going to be more of
an ideological enforcer at a time where there
has been reaction to the press and criticism
of it from the White House and other
quarters?
And tremendous pressure on CBS specifically.
There's a lot of pressure.
She has 1.7 million subscribers.
I'm not sure how many of those are
paying subscribers.
About every ten posts is a subscriber post

(25:25):
only.
So she could conceivably be doing several hundred
thousand dollars a month.
You know, 10x that.
You know, I see where they can, Silicon
Valley-wise, calculate some value.
No.
No.
Just no.
No, it's not true.
You heard it here first.

(25:45):
It's not true.
It will come out.
It will never come out.
These things never come out.
These are all private deals.
They're hidden.
They're swept under the rug.
Who knows?
No.
But it's beside the point.
It's just a, you know, a splash.
It's to make a lot of noise.
Oh, look at what you can do.
I think I should start one too.
So.

(26:06):
You did.
The Oasis.
You're waiting.
I'm waiting for the call from Skydance.
It's worth millions.
Skydance, I'm waiting for your call.
So here we go with the end of
this.
This does raise an interesting question because you
can have opinions about the news, but then
you have an institution with many hundreds of
employees around the world, and the question of

(26:26):
how they deploy themselves, how they cover it,
how you work the mechanics of that, that
can matter as much as your outside opinion
of what's going on.
That's right.
I think that the real question is going
to be how Weiss sees herself.
Is she seeing herself as a change agent
or a disruption agent in the model of
Elon Musk in the early days of Trump
administration, or is she seeing herself as an

(26:47):
important and defining voice for CBS, but an
institution worth preserving with, you know, major tent
poles like 60 Minutes that have been so
defining for American broadcast journalism for so many
decades.
And so I think inside CBS, there is
a willingness to entertain a different way of
thinking about the news and also an apprehension
about are they ultimately going to be adhering

(27:08):
to the same set of values, even if
it's interpreted in slightly different ways.
Hmm.
Both the openness and the apprehension.
Very interesting.
David, thank you.
Very interesting.
That's our media correspondent.
Very, very interesting.
So 18 years and we've never been called
change agents.
I'm kind of disappointed.
So one of the things that people should

(27:30):
note is that the real key in media
and changing the way the propaganda is set
up and pushed out is simple.
It's just story selection.
Sure.
You have two, and you see it all
the time.
That's why Twitter and all these guys will
bring up this and Fox will do it.

(27:52):
They'll bring up stories that the mainstream won't
talk about.
The idea of this character, Jay Jones, who
threatened or didn't threaten, but he said he
should put two bullets in his opponent's head
and this kid should die in his mother's
arms, and he's just a sick guy.
They did a graphic, and it was covered

(28:12):
for 63 seconds on NBC.
CBS did not play it at all, and
neither did ABC.
ABC for sure.
NBC had 63 seconds of coverage of this,
which Fox is just hounding because it is
affecting the campaign.
And you're going to see the same thing
with this Katie Porter thing, which is blowed

(28:33):
up, but it's largely blowed up on social
media.
Yeah, even I saw that.
And this is some numbnut who's running for
governor.
Numbnut who's winning the race for governor.
Oh, she's winning the race for governor.
Oh, that's even worse.
She's ahead by 17 points over all the

(28:56):
competition, this woman.
She was the anointed one by the Democrat
Party in California.
Wow.
She's a pig, basically.
You can still get out.
There's time.
You can still do it.
So why?
It's too much.

(29:16):
It's a hoot.
Speaking of M5M, the numbers now are in.
Of course, you won't see it as a
headline.
After his glorious comeback, Jimmy Kimmel sheds 85
% of his key viewers.
Yeah, I know.
They drop right back, probably a little bit
below what it was before.
Yeah, yeah.

(29:36):
So they're going to have to come up
with some other gambit to get rid of
him.
Or they're just going to have to write
it off.
I mean, they have to do something with
that.
They can never go for that again.
No, but they could have done it by
being honest and saying, look, the ratings are
– why don't they just come out and
be honest?
The ratings are crap that's costing us a

(29:57):
fortune to do this show.
We're killing it.
You know, they could do it now.
Now that I think about it, they could
say, you know – Oh, you're right.
This is exactly the right time to do
it.
Yeah, he couldn't hold on to him.
That really shows that it's just – it's
not going to work.
We tried everything for you, Jimmy.
We even brought you back, gave you the

(30:19):
biggest comeback ratings of the century, and you
just couldn't do it, brother.
I'm sorry.
You got to go.
Yeah.
Now's the time to do it.
You can't just dilly-dally.
And he said, on behalf of Skydance, we
just can't have – oh, no, it's not
in Skydance.
Oh, crap.
It was ABC.
It was Disney.
On behalf of Skydancer.

(30:40):
Tinkerbell says, we can't have you.
I'm sorry.
This would be the time.
So, the big, big, big, big news.
This is – oh, it flooded all of
the timelines.
Everybody's talking about it.
It was the Deadman Switch.
Have you heard about the Deadman Switch?

(31:01):
I'm about to.
Well, see, now I don't know if –
now I'm afraid to do this because, you
know, you're already in a – I think
you're in a bad mood.
Are you in a bad mood?
Are you trying to put me in a
bad mood by saying that?
No.
You're leading into this in a very awkward
way.

(31:22):
Because of how you responded.
Twice, I'm about to.
You build it up as everybody's talking about
it.
I don't know what you're talking about right
away.
Before we do that, I got – You
kind of pulled a rug out from under
your thesis.
I got a note from Sidney, and she
says – Sidney.
Sidney.
Sidney.
Girl, Sidney.
She says, as a sincere and genuine fan

(31:44):
of the show and sister in Christ, which,
of course, gets my attention, I want to
bring your attention to the idea that you
may be being a bit overly mean and
condescending towards John on the show.
Yes.
Let me finish the note.
It's been an ongoing thing, but I feel
like it has gotten worse and worse, where
you almost show a complete lack of respect

(32:04):
towards him, and he is always so graceful
and doesn't feed into your passive-aggressive shade.
I'm sure you're not doing it with malice
in your heart, but come on, Adam, let's
try to be nice.
I feel bad sometimes.
It just feels like you've hurt his feelings.
We will all age and get older one

(32:24):
day.
Well, that part should get left out.
I've got to read the whole thing.
And we should all hope that we have
the mental aptitude that John does.
I know I'd be blessed to.
So it's not nice to make fun of
that.
You act like his clips don't matter or
what he has to say doesn't matter.
This is true.
Just have your own solo show.

(32:46):
She's nailing it.
Wait, I've got to read it in the
voice.
Just have your own solo show, then.
Oh, but you won't do that, right?
Why?
Because John matters.
Well, she's got that, too.
She must be a pro.
She's like a media analyst or something.

(33:07):
I sincerely apologize.
Of course, there's no No Agenda without the
two of us.
That would never work.
I don't want to do my own solo
show.
Your condescension works for me.
See, that's my point.
He likes it.
No, this is the dead man switch that
Candace Owens has thrown the dead man switch.
She did this again.
I never heard of this.

(33:27):
I went ahead this week and sent around
a life insurance policy.
Oh, God.
A package, rather, to people that I trust.
A package filled with text messages, emails, private
communications, videos, and private legal documents.
So if anything happens to me, you guys
will know exactly who it is that has
been making my life a living hell over

(33:50):
the past couple of years.
People that are trying to bankrupt me, trying
to bankrupt me and my family, that are
threatening us, to sue us.
Everything that Kanye said was so real, okay?
And now at that point where you look
back and you go, man, Kanye was right.
He was really saying something about what it
takes to leave, you know, to fight for
custody of your own soul.

(34:11):
Just leave me alone.
Let me say what I believe and you
say what you believe.
Fight fair.
Why do you always have to make this
threat to bankrupt people?
And I want you to know that those
people, if anything happens to me, they have
my explicit permission to release it all, detonate
it all, expose all of these people in
politics and in the movement who behave like
this behind the scenes.

(34:31):
It's necessary.
And I highly recommend every single person that
is out there that has a platform and
is going through things and is scared, do
the same.
Send everything around to about eight people that
you trust.
And I mean, I've arranged it.
I sent it to journalists, text messages and
screenshots of people ranging from Max Blumenthal to
Andrew Tate.

(34:51):
They won't know where it's coming from.
So first of all, this is a recommendation
we need to take seriously.
I think we should have our own dead
man switch.
Hold on a second.
Let's just talk about her dead man switch
first.
So she is making an implication.
This is news to me because I don't
that's your her.
She's your beat.

(35:11):
Yes, my beat.
I haven't listened to a Candace Owen show
for probably two years.
I don't listen either, but I could not
avoid this clip.
It just kept getting sent to me.
So I presume our people, our people are
into this.
I don't get it.
So she's bitching about the Jews.
Wait, you're jumping the gun.

(35:33):
There's another part to this.
Well, let me finish what I think.
Yeah.
She's bitching about the Jews and she sent
around a bunch of because she said they're
out to bankrupt.
They're out to this.
They're out to that.
And all she's sending around is a bunch
of payment due notices because she's not paying
her mortgage.

(35:54):
That's what it seems like to me.
She's blaming the Jews.
I think she's paying her mortgage.
We'll get to that.
Here's the second part.
Three people told me off record.
Two people who have this in a written
communication from Charlie, one who is a Turning
Point USA donor, and I would say very

(36:15):
much one of the white knights in this.
Okay.
We'll stick a pin in that because we
will hear from one of the white knights
in a moment because the white knight emerged
after the dead man switch was thrown.
The very day before Charlie Kirk died, he
expressed that he thought he was going to
be killed.
He told these people, I think they're going

(36:35):
to kill me.
Okay.
He did not express that to me.
So I am telling you this based off
the testimony of three people.
I am saying this because I hope that
these people who I think are good will
be inspired to come forward with that.
Again, those conversations I had were off record.
I honor that.
If I say it's off record, it stays
off record.
But I'm hoping that watching what I am

(36:57):
doing and feeling the energy that is rising
across the world for people who want to
know what the heck happened on 910, that,
you know, they will be brave and they
will say, yeah, Charlie did the day before
he died, think that he was going to
be killed and maybe tell us who was
they for once and for all, who was
they, who is the day that he thought
was we're going to kill him now to

(37:19):
answer.
And others knew that Charlie was done with
Israel bullying him.
And I am now going to present you
proof of what I am saying.
This is an actual group chat, which happened
two days before Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
There were nine people in total on this
chat, including Charlie.
Okay.
So she's talking about they and it's Israel.
So it's a little confused.

(37:40):
It was confusing to me.
Is this the Jews?
Is it Israel?
I'm not sure who it is, but they
are coming after Candace and her family.
And by the way, I don't think we
need to be too worried about Candace and
her family.
You know who her husband is, right?
Oh, yeah.
She's some rich guy.
Well, George Farmer, who was at Turning Point

(38:04):
UK.
He was the CEO of Parler.
I'm just reminding you.
And his family is really what's most interesting.
His dad, Michael Farmer.
He is a barren farmer.
I should, I should note.
And so he is a lifetime peer.

(38:29):
So he's connected to the United Kingdom.
But we'll continue now with Candace's revelation of
the text thread.
So Charlie.
Hold on a second.
So you're actually tying this into your.
Oh, wait, it's coming.
It's coming.
I knew it.
It's coming.
So Charlie writes in this group chat.

(38:49):
Just lost another huge Jewish donor.
Two million a year because we won't cancel
Tucker.
I'm thinking of inviting Candace.
Somebody writes.
Charlie writes Jewish donors play into all of
the stereotypes.
I cannot and will not be bullied like
this.
Leaving me no choice but to leave the

(39:12):
pro-Israel cause.
So what are we to make of that?
Okay, now that I'm showing you this.
And showing to you that the conversations were
real.
I want you to reflect.
And it took me a lot of patience
to allow the lies that were being woven.
And the misrepresentations.
And eulogizing Charlie.
As something and someone.
That's never once flinched.

(39:34):
Never once for a single second doubted.
The Israeli cause.
So now here's Charlie saying.
He did a whole roundtable with Gen Zers.
And I think he was in general in
agreement with them.

(39:54):
About Israel.
But not about Jews.
But about Israel.
So out emerges after Candace posts her dead
man switch.
Which I think she just told us what's
in it.
I'm not sure what else could be in
there.
That she sent to the.
What's the guy's name?
Andrew.
What's his name?

(40:14):
I don't know.
Andrew Tate.
Oh Tate.
That guy's on my list of dead man
switch operators.
Andrew Tate.
So out of the woodwork emerges John Mappin.
And John Mappin's post is.
By the way I have a blue check
mark.
I don't know how you get to post
500 words on X.

(40:36):
I just can't seem to get it done.
I think you have to pay.
Oh you have to be paying blue check.
And he's like.
If Candace Owens had been assassinated.
Charlie would have torn apart every lie.
And devoted every working day and night to
uncover the full truth.
Candace is working hard to get to the
truth of who killed Charlie Kirk.

(40:57):
And why they did it.
Charlie's executions assassination.
With potentially far-reaching political consequences for America.
And the world.
What we have seen so far.
Beggars belief.
Who says beggars belief?
Oh.
It's this guy.
John Mappin.
International.
This is from his own website.

(41:18):
International real estate hospitality construction and media entrepreneur.
He is the 7th generation of the Mappin
family.
To invest in innovative ways to deploy capital.
While his father David Mappin.
Invested to develop the technologies that allowed the
national treasure of North Sea oil.
To benefit the people of the United Kingdom.

(41:38):
John Mappin has taken the family into new
areas of investment and innovation.
Innovative innovation.
He has built a reputation as a hard
-working progressive and inspirational businessman.
With expansive philanthropic interests.
Particularly the field of education in free market
economies.
Environmental restoration and conservation of the natural world.

(42:00):
This is what got me.
John Mappin and his wife Irina Kudronok Mappin.
Are the co-founders and originators of the
global reforestation initiative.
That became the conceptual backbone and inception point
of the current form of the Dutch green
business.
A publicly quoted main market listing on the

(42:22):
Amsterdam exchange Euronext.
Well with that I'm like okay.
Here we go.
It's fine.
The North Sea Nexus.
Here we are.

(42:42):
Because the North Sea Nexus has emerged to
blame it on the Jews.
This is.
It could not get any better.
Yeah that's it.
Piecing it together that way is good.
That was good.
Because the fact is if anybody was going
to kill Candace Owens.
It would probably be the DGSE.

(43:05):
Which is the French CIA.
Well so this will be the final time
I'm doing this.
Because I'm tired of it.
But I just brought back a few clips.
The last time I'm going to explain how
this works.
And then I'll be done with it.
No you won't.
Well.
This is a blatant lie.

(43:25):
I'm not so sure.
Because I'm bringing back clips from over a
year ago.
And we've learned that people say well you
never talk about the moon landing.
Well we've only talked about it 8,000
times on the show.
And you can go to bingit.io and
you can find everything we've always talked about.
But it's our own fault because we've been
doing this too long.

(43:46):
You know and then we get jaded.
No I agree.
It's not that we've been doing it too
long as a disservice to the public.
What we've done is we've taken for granted.
Yes.
That everyone who's listening to the show as
we speak right now.
Has listened.
Knows what we talked about 10 years ago.
Yes.
That's the problem.

(44:06):
So from time to time and I think
annually would be okay.
I need to bring back a couple of
things.
But first we have to talk about what
an idiot Netanyahu is.
He is truly, truly an idiot.
And this is the clip where he called
Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and everybody else

(44:29):
the woke reich.
Christian influencers up there.
He said we talked about the woke reich.
He said I call it the woke reich.
That's a brilliant.
Ha ha.
So he calls them the woke reich.
Which is of course really offensive to anybody.
I like it though.

(44:50):
It would be a great show title.
But still it's like I call them the
woke reich.
So what do you think Tucker is going
to say to that?
Of course.
Now he was saying this and then this
is all being.
I didn't have to do any work for
this.
This just popped up on my time.
Everybody is saying this is what our people

(45:10):
are looking at and talking about.
So that's why I'm bringing it up.
This was in front of a bunch of
what the text says.
Christian Zionists who are on a work retreat
to Israel under the auspices of Paula White
who is the White House faith office leader.
And so this is, you know, so obviously

(45:32):
when you're doing this stuff it's a very
bad take.
The woke reich.
Because these people, you know, they're not any
different from the woke left.
I mean they're insane.
They're the reason.
But they're actually meeting on some of the
things.
And what we have to do is we
have to secure that part of the base

(45:52):
of our support in the United States.
That is being challenged systematically.
A lot of this is done with money.
Money of NGOs.
Fast.
Money of governments.
Faster.
Okay.
We have to fight back.
How do we fight back?
Our influencers.
I think you should also talk to them
if you have a chance.

(46:13):
To that community.
They're very important.
And secondly, we're going to have to use
the tools of battle.
Yeah.
So our influencers.
So already you're talking propagandistic terms.
And nobody's deaf out here.
We hear what you're saying.
And so this is the classic tick tock.
We have to fight with the weapons that

(46:33):
apply to the battlefields in which we're engaged.
And the most important ones are on social
media.
And the most important purchase that is going
on right now is.
All right.
Then they went on like we got to
talk to Elon.
He's a friend.
So this all comes apart as a part

(46:54):
of what Netanyahu calls the eighth front.
So one of the things we have fought
now, seven front war, we have an eighth
front.
And that is the front and the battle
for truth.
So he's warring now on social media, which
is in a way in our own backyard.
And the ADL, which I believe the FBI

(47:16):
is now broken with.
We're not going to take any more information
from you.
Introduce this in Congress as well.
To recognize that there is an eighth front
in this war.
It might not be a terrestrial border that
you can find on a map.
But this domain is as volatile, is as

(47:37):
violent, and is as vital to our future.
The information sphere, the info sphere, is the
eighth front in this war.
And seizing the high ground in the fight
for global public opinion is a battle that's
as important to the long-term war as

(47:59):
what you've done in Lebanon and Syria.
All right.
So now, of course, we have to take
into account that AIPAC absolutely is an American
-Israeli public affairs committee.
And they, as Massey said, everybody, everyone has
at least one AIPAC lobbyist.
Now, of course, I will explain once again
where that money comes from.
But when you're talking like this and you're

(48:21):
talking to influencers and everybody's seeing what you're
saying and you actually do put your foreign
money into something in the United States, it
shows up on a FARA report, foreign agent
report, by the company that took the Israeli
money to do the following.
And all you need is for Ian Carroll
to get a hold of it.

(48:41):
Targeted geofencing.
Right there.
Description.
Largest geofencing and targeted Christian digital campaign ever.
Geofence the actual boundaries of every major church
in California, Arizona, Nevada, and Colorado, and all
Christian colleges during worship times.
Track attendees and continue to target with ads.

(49:05):
So, what that means is that Israel, the
state of Israel, on this FARA registration is
disclosing that a foreign state is paying for
an influence campaign that will actively locate your
cell phone if you go to church in

(49:27):
any of California, Arizona, Nevada, and Colorado.
They will target and track your phone at
church.
And then when you leave church, they will
continue to track you and send you customized
Israel ads using Israeli money to back that

(49:48):
campaign.
That's why we have FARA is so that
they have to disclose shit like this.
And so they did.
And the funny thing about this is when
you present it this way, you kind of
forget that the Mars Corporation is doing this,
you know, for dog food.
This is how it's done.
This is to this is why phones are

(50:09):
so beautiful because the geofencing advertising, that's exactly
what's happening.
Yeah.
And that's why I keep my phone in
a drawer.
I don't understand why everybody doesn't adopt my
policy.
And you're not wrong.
But this only fuels the conspiracy.
And then Netanyahu does the dumbest thing he
could do because he feels it.

(50:30):
He feels that this is turning into Jew
hate instead of just plain old Israel hate,
which, by the way, I'm fine with.
You can hate Israel.
I don't care.
You can hate AIPAC.
I don't care.
I don't like AIPAC either, especially not because
I think that they're coming from a whole
different perspective from the military industrial complex.
We'll reiterate that in a moment.

(50:51):
So Netanyahu feels this.
Oh, got to do some damage control.
What is the dumbest thing you can do?
Go on Ben Shapiro's show and do it.
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard
of.
I don't know if Hill and Knowlton advised
him on this, but here's two pieces.
No, obviously not.
No, I guess not.
I know what I do.
I'll just call up Ben.

(51:12):
Explain to Americans why should it matter whether
America maintains a strong alliance with Israel in
defense terms, in tech terms?
Well, let me first start with America first.
Hold on.
Stop the clip.
Going back to that thesis.
This is Ben.
Ben's the guy.
Ben's the guy who made the call.
Good point.
Hey, BB, we'll fix it.

(51:33):
We'll make it right.
I think you're right.
This is Ben's call.
But, again, you should say, no, this is
not the right form.
No, you don't even do that.
You call the Hill and Knowlton guy and
say, what should I be doing here?
Yes, yes.
Because I got to beg out in some
sort of way.

(51:53):
Explain to Americans why should it matter whether
America maintains a strong alliance with Israel in
defense terms, in tech terms?
Well, let me first start with America first.
That's a natural position.
It would be unnatural to have a different
position.
But America first doesn't mean America alone because
all countries need allies.
And if you're without allies who may develop
the technologies that are needed for your defense

(52:14):
or the technologies that are needed for your
offense or the intelligence to save your lives,
why forfeit yourself of these allies?
The problem that you've had over the years,
the United States, is that you didn't have
these allies pulling their weight.
And Israel is an ally.
It's a fighting ally that pulls its weight.
Not only that, not only do we fight,

(52:35):
we don't ask for Americans to bring boots
on the ground.
We've done the job of defending ourselves pretty
well, I'd say, over the last 77 years.
But it's not only that.
We've also defeated enemies who are your enemies
who are trying to develop intercontinental ballistic missiles
armed with nuclear warheads to attack your cities.
That's what Iran was doing.

(52:55):
We just knocked out Iran.
Also, as I said, with President Trump's very
judicious and pointed assistance.
Now, bear all this in mind.
He said very specifically, and that's why I
brought this clip in.
We don't have any American boots on the
ground when we're doing this.
I know everyone's really upset.
You can't afford your rent, and we're sending
$10 billion a year to Israel in military
assistance.
I know.

(53:16):
The second clip was actually the meat and
potatoes of the visit.
But again, if you did this on Megyn
Kelly's show, on Tucker Carlson's show, anywhere but
on Ben Shapiro's show, it would have had
some traction.
I wonder if you want to talk a
little about the relationship that you personally have
with President Trump, which is obviously in public
quite warm.
Well, it's in private quite warm.

(53:38):
It doesn't mean that we agree on everything
or at any one time we agree on
every point.
That's what we have a conversation for.
Do you have that in your family?
A lot.
Yeah?
You want to see who wins out?
Your wife.
My wife always, yes.
Well, in this case, it's not a husband
and wife situation.
It's a question of partners.
We're the junior partner.
We have no—nobody should mistake that.

(54:00):
This is the key.
We're not in control here.
It's a question of partners.
I mean, we have no—nobody should mistake that
because right now the liberty of the world,
the security of the world is dependent on
the strength of the United States.
And I think what President Trump has done

(54:20):
in a very short time is bring America
back to the front seat, to the driver's
seat in world affairs.
And that's very, very important because I think
we all depend on America's strength and its
resolve.
And I think President Trump has made America
great again.
I really believe that.

(54:41):
Okay.
So, that has always been our point.
Israel is the junior partner.
And to take you back—and I've shortened these
and only done a couple of them—Michael Hudson
was there when this happened.
And I think President Trump is in—if you
want to talk about a deep state, this
is it.
The deep state is what was set up

(55:03):
in the 70s, primarily through the State Department
and the Department of Defense, military industrial complex,
was to use Israel for everything we wanted
to do in the Middle East, which always
comes back to oil.
Always.
And the true dismantling of that is what
Marco Rubio started to do under the auspices

(55:24):
of Doge, is get all of these people
out who were brought in specifically because of
their intense Zionist feelings about Israel.
So, yeah, that is and certainly was a
real thing, but that is what is now
being cleaned up.
So, it started back in the 70s.
Michael Hudson was there when it happened.

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Everything that's happened today was planned out just
50 years ago, back in 1974, 1973 and
4.
I sat in on meetings with Yared, who
became Netanyahu, who's chief military advisor after hitting
Mossad.
And the whole strategy was worked out essentially

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by the Defense Department, by neoliberals, and almost
in a series of stages that I'll explain.
Scoop Jackson is the main name to remember.
Scoop Jackson was the ultra right-wing neocon
who sponsored them all.
He was the head of the Democratic National
Committee in 1960 and then worked with military

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advisors.
I was with Herman Kahn, the model for
Dr. Strangelove at the Hudson Institute during these
years.
And I sat in on meetings, and I'll
describe them.
But I want to describe how the whole
strategy that led to the United States today
not wanting peace, wanting to take over the
whole Near East, took shape gradually.

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And to remind everybody, the reason why we
did it this way is because after the
Vietnam War, before 9-11, but after the
Vietnam War, it was impossible to get a
draft going.
No one wanted to go fight any foreign
wars very similar to today.
And why would you?
Because these are all banker wars and oil
wars, etc.
The starting point for all the U.S.

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strategy here was that democracies no longer can
field a domestic army with a military draft.
America is not in a position able to
really field enough of an army to invade
a country.
And without invading a country, you can't really
take it over.

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You can bomb it, but that just is
going to incite resistance.
So this was recognized 50 years ago, and
it seemed at that time that the U
.S.-backed wars were going to have to be
scaled down.
But that hasn't happened.
And the reason is the United States had
a fallback position.
It was going to rely on foreign troops

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to do the fighting as proxies instead of
itself.
That was a solution to get a force.
Well, the first example was to create the
Wahhabi jihad fighters in Afghanistan as Al Qaeda.
And Jimmy Carter mobilized them against the secular
Afghan interests.

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The Carter doctrine, the nice Democrat Jimmy Carter.
Carter justified this by saying, well, yes, they're
Muslims, but after all, we all believe in
God.
So the answer to the secular state of
Afghan was Wahhabi fanaticism and jihad.
And the United States realized that in order

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to have an army that's willing to fight
to the last member of its country, the
last Afghan, the last Israeli, the last Ukrainian,
you really need a country whose spirit is
one of hatred towards the other, a spirit
very different from the American and European spirit.

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Well, Brzezinski was the grand planner who did
all that.
So I hope people are starting to get
the picture when you hear Afghanistan, you hear
Israel, you hear Ukraine.
This has always been the status quo of
our State Department is we're going after them,
but we're going to do it with people
who hate our enemy, which is whether it's

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Russia or whether it's Muslims or whether it's
oil countries.
That has always been the system.
And this is why Israel was and still
is important to us.
When all of this strategy was being put
together, Herman Kahn's great achievement was to convince
the U.S. Empire builders that the key
to achieving their control of the Middle East

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was to rely on Israel as its foreign
legion.
And that arm's length arrangement enabled the United
States to play the role, as I said,
of the good cop, designating Israel to play
its role.
And Israel is organized and supplied al-Nusra,
al-Qaeda, while the United States pretends to

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denounce them.
And it's all part of a plan that's
been backed by the military, the State Department
and the national security operations.
And that's why the State Department has turned
over management of U.S. diplomacy to Zionists,
seemingly distinguishing Israeli behavior from U.S. Empire

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building.
But in a nutshell, the Israelis have joined
al-Qaeda and ISIS's troops as America's foreign
legion.
And so in reality, the Jews were abused
by the military industrial complex under the guise
of AIPAC to get the money flowing and
to always have more war and always rile

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everybody up about it.
Because the whole system was indeed driven by
what we would call Zionists.
But it's all military money.
The U.S. policy, as I said, was
based on the U.S. actually taking over
all of these countries, again, using Israel as
the.
That, by the way, is the West Clark
7, all these countries.

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Yeah, is the battering ram, what the army
called America's landed aircraft carrier there.
Well, all this began to take place in
the 1960s with Henry Jackson.
Initially, Israel didn't really play a role in
the U.S. plan.
Jackson simply hated communism.
He hated the Russians and he got a

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lot of support within the Democratic Party.
He was a senator from Washington state and
that was the center of military industrial complex.
He was called nicknamed the senator from Boeing.
Jackson was fighting all the arms control.
We've got to have war.
And he proceeded to stuff the State Department

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and other U.S. agencies with neocons who
planned from the beginning for a permanent worldwide
war.
And this takeover of government policy was led
by Jackson's former Senate aides.
These Senate aides were Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle,

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Douglas Feith, and others who were catapulted into
the commanding heights of the State Department and
more recently, the National Security Council.
The Jackson-Bannock Amendment to the U.S.
Trade Act of 1974 became the model for
subsequent sanctions against the Soviet Union.

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The claim was that it limited Jewish immigration
and other human rights.
So right then, the State Department realized here
is a group of people who we can
use as the theoreticians and the executors of
the U.S. policy that we want.
They both want to take over all of

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the Arab countries.
I don't think there were any non-Jewish
Americans that had that visceral hatred of Islam
that the Zionists had or also the visceral
hatred of Russia, specifically for its anti-Semitism
of past centuries, most of which was in
Ukraine, by the way.

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Exactly.
And now you understand Victoria Nuland, why she
was involved in Ukraine, always getting other people
to fight for us.
And I believe, truly believe, President Trump doesn't
want that and he's dismantling that, but it's
a big system to dismantle.
And part of it has been giving the
military more money, giving them other things to
focus on.

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Golden Dome, big, beautiful ships.
Hey, we're going to get your money.
We don't necessarily have to be killing people
all the time.
And the media has been so complicit in
this that you've got to wonder if you
are listening to this podcast and you're basically
in line with crazy Palestinian protesters from the

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river to the sea, doesn't that tell you
something?
That doesn't make a lot of sense other
than this has been a system that has
been going on for as long as I've
been on planet Earth.
It's a long time.
So how was the media complicit?
This is the former AP reporter talking about
how all of our reports coming out of

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Gaza were completely corrupted.
AP, as far as I know, I was
the first staffer to erase information from a
story because we were threatened by Hamas, which
happened at the very end of 2008.
We had a great reporter in Gaza, a
Palestinian who had always been really an excellent
reporter.
We had a detail in a story.
The detail was a crucial one.

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It was that Hamas fighters were dressed as
civilians and were being counted as civilians in
the death toll.
An important thing to know, that went out
in an AP story.
The reporter called me a few hours later.
It was clear that someone had spoken to
him.
And he told me, I was on the
desk in Jerusalem, so I was kind of
writing the story from the main bureau in
Jerusalem.
And he said, Mati, you have to take

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that detail out of the story.
And it was clear that someone had threatened
him.
I took the detail out of the story.
I suggested to our editors that we note
in an editor's note that we were now
complying with Hamas censorship.
I was overruled.
And from that point in time, the AP,
like all of its sister organizations, collaborates with
Hamas censorship in Gaza.
What does that mean?

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You'll see a lot of dead civilians and
you won't see dead militants.
You won't have a clear idea of what
the Hamas military strategy is.
And this is the kicker.
The center of the coverage will be a
number, a casualty number that is provided to
the press by something called the Gaza Health
Ministry, which is Hamas.
And we've been doing that since 2008.
And it's a way of basically settling the

(01:05:37):
story before you get into any other information.
Because when you put, you know, when you
say 50,000, 50, 50 Palestinians were killed
and one Israeli on a given day, you
know, it doesn't matter what else you say.
That's always been your complaint, John.
The Hamas Medical Information Bureau.
Fake numbers.
Yeah, fake numbers.

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Statisticians have come out and determined that these
numbers are fake just based on theory.
Well, it gets it gets even worse because
now you only really have three kinds of
reports coming out of this region.
The numbers kind of tell their own story.
And it's a way of kind of settling
the story with something that sounds like a
concrete statistic.
And the statistic is being given to us

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by one of the combatant sides.
But because the reporters sympathize with that side,
they're happy to play along.
So since 2008, certainly since 2014 when we
had another serious war in Gaza, the press
has not been covering in Gaza.
The press has been essentially an amplifier for
one of the most poisonous ideologies on earth.

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Hamas has figured out how to make the
press amplify its messaging rather than covering Hamas.
There are no Western reporters in Gaza.
All of the reporters in Gaza are Palestinians.
And those people fall into three categories.
Some of them identify with Hamas.
Some of them are intimidated by Hamas and
won't cross Hamas, which makes a lot of

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sense.
I wouldn't want to cross Hamas either.
And the third category is people who actually
belong to Hamas.
That's where the information from Gaza is coming
from.
And if you're credulous, then of course you're
going to get a story that makes Israel
look pretty bad.
Exactly.
So I'm going to land the plane with
this.
The problem I have with this is that

(01:07:25):
people are confusing Zionists with Jewish people.
And Candace Owens throwing gasoline on the fire
by saying those people, they're bankrupting me, it's
the Jews.
As you identified, she's saying it's the Jews.
And as I was thinking about this, I'm
like, I have seen this movie before.

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I have seen this movie before.
The movie is actually called Bonhoeffer.
And a guy named Eric Metaxas, he's a,
I think he's still a pastor, but he
wrote a book called A Letter to the
American Church about a year ago.
And it's about Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
And Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a pastor in Germany

(01:08:08):
during World War II.
And the church in Germany, when the trains
are going by with the Jews being carted
off, and just to cover up the screams
of the people in the cattle cars, the
church said, just turn up the music, just
sing a little louder so we don't have
to hear it.
Here's a quick Eric Metaxas, and it really
accentuates the point.

(01:08:28):
You know, the lie that he was dealing
with in his day is the same lie
we're dealing with in our day, which is
what led me to write my book Letter
to the American Church.
What would Bonhoeffer say today?
It's the same excuses being given by the
church.
We don't do politics.
What do you mean you don't do politics?
Slavery is an issue, and you say, well,
we don't take a position.

(01:08:49):
That's political.
We just do church.
How can you do church and not take
an issue on enslaving human beings?
That's politics.
My hero, William Wilberforce, I wrote a biography
of William Wilberforce.
He was a politician who, because of his
Christian faith, said, I must stand against the
slave trade.
This is a satanic abomination treating human beings
like this.
I'm going to use politics and culture and

(01:09:11):
whatever I can do to change the laws.
That's our duty as Christians.
It's our duty as Americans.
And so Bonhoeffer was trying to get the
church to see it in his day.
And, again, many were like, we don't want
any trouble.
We're just going to do church.
We'll let the evil take over.
We don't care.
It's not affecting us.
It's affecting the Jews.
God judges that.
It's affecting the Jews.
We don't care.

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And so that's the only issue I have
with it.
I'm not doing an AIPAC commercial like people
say, oh, how much did AIPAC pay you
guys to say that?
I do not want war.
I think President Trump has the right idea.
Let's clean everything up.
Let's stop the fighting in Ukraine, in Gaza.

(01:09:53):
Fine.
Rebuild it.
All the Arab nations seem to be on
board.
He seems to really be trying to make
peace.
And the kicker to it all is this
was actually Charlie Kirk's vision.
Our vision, and it might be foolishly optimistic,
but I've been called that before, and now
you can kind of see it.
We want 1,000 Dietrich Bonhoeffers.
We're not going to say, like, we're going
to create them.

(01:10:13):
I want to find them and encourage them.
That's it.
Find and encourage.
Find and encourage.
That's it.
Because I'm not going to, like, train people.
I just want to find and encourage them.
Here's just a branding idea.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer died as a martyr.
Go with 1,000 Martin Luthers.
It's got a little more.
That's fair.
I like the Bonhoeffer example because of the
circumstances, the tyranny.

(01:10:34):
Yes, yes.
But, you know, I also like the Bonhoeffer
because I never want to make anyone feel
as if I'm being anything but honest.
It's going to cost us something.
God forbid our life like that, but eventually
we're all going to have to go to
heaven.
And so Bonhoeffer is the example of, hey,
I'm willing to sacrifice everything I have for
God's purpose on Earth.
But I hear you.
It's not exactly the greatest sales pitch.
No, no, no.
I suppose I'd rather die on a glorious

(01:10:54):
martyrdom than by getting a Doritos stuck in
my throat.
They say you die twice.
When you actually die and the last time
somebody mentions your name.
Bonhoeffer will be mentioned, I think, as long
as human beings have breath.
There you go.
So Charlie Kirk understood very well what was
happening.
And he even said that some of these
Jewish donors are so stereotypical.
So are there bad Jewish donors?

(01:11:16):
Absolutely.
But is the system, is the system that
we need to fight against, is that the
problem?
Yes.
And I think President Trump is doing it.
And we all need to just chill out
a little bit on how the Jews are
running everything.
They run the media.
Well, they're doing a great job of that.
They run social media.
They're going to buy TikTok.
Oh, yeah?

(01:11:37):
That's really going to change anything?
No.
So just chill out on the Jew hate.
That's all that I'm asking for.
The North Sea Nexus report with Adam Kuriby.

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Could not have been more dramatic.
And the North Sea Nexus is fueling this
nonsense with Candace Owen and her royal family.
So we don't have to do it for
another year.
Ha!
At least not about AIPAC, for sure.
They'll come up within two months.

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Okay, maybe.
Maybe.
Okay, well, I'm glad you got that out
of your system.
Yeah, yeah, I did.
By the way, we just bought $6 billion
worth of icebreakers from Finland.
That gives us something to do.
Yeah, we've got to spend more money, man.
We've got to spend the money.
Hey, Europe, by the way, this is really,

(01:12:43):
speaking of military-industrial complex, I think you
have a couple of Macron analysis clips.
But at first we had Herr Ursula this
morning surviving her second no-confidence vote.
Because they're really fighting her.

(01:13:03):
And I have a feeling that this is
all about the – because Europe is in
a hole.
They're going to borrow more money.
And where's that money going to go?
Germany.
It's all going to go to Germany.
And I think this prime minister and Macron
and all these guys, I think they screwed
it up.
And they're not going to get any of
that money.

(01:13:24):
And it's because Germany is, as usual, Germany
is running the show in the European Union.
This report kind of says it from F24.
Well, Emmanuel Macron has been president since 2017.
And he's had, as we were hearing before,
seven prime ministers.
This is the shortest reigning prime minister, Sébastien
Le Corneau.
But some of the previous ones have also
been pretty short.

(01:13:45):
And the reason for that is that during
the first term in office, in five years,
from 2017 to 2022, things were going fairly
OK for Emmanuel Macron.
He had a majority in parliament, could pass
the policies that he wanted to get through.
But when he was re-elected in 2022,
he wasn't given a majority in parliament to

(01:14:06):
be able to push through more reforms that
he had planned.
And that has led to him calling snap
elections last year after the far-right national
rally did very well in the European elections,
thinking that with that, he could win back
a substantial majority in the National Assembly and
pursue these reforms that he wanted to push
through, notably to try to reboot the French

(01:14:28):
economy because there's a 3.3 trillion euro
debt that France has right now, which is
absolutely colossal and is preventing the country from
reorganizing its public services, basically.
From boosting the war economy.
This is all about the money.
They can't get it together.

(01:14:49):
And how many people live in France?
40 million?
Do you happen to know?
There's more than that now.
I think it's more like 50.
Well, that's 40 million French.
And the rest are imports.
Well, I don't know.
But that's like our level debt per capita.
It's high.
And they have issues.
But you have to remember, the French have

(01:15:12):
had nothing but issues.
I mean, this is the fifth go-round
of reorganizing their government.
This began in 1958.
There never used to be a president like
there is now.
It's called the Fifth Republic, and it started
in 1958.
Was that the military guy?
What was his name again?

(01:15:32):
No, no.
That's before.
That's the Fourth Republic.
That was, you're thinking, de Gaulle.
No, no.
Maybe it was de Gaulle.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, de Gaulle was running things.
But it was a parliamentary system like you
have in England, but England also has a
monarch.
And so the parliamentary system, it's the prime
minister's the big deal.
But in France, they came up with this,

(01:15:52):
during the Fifth Republic, they redesigned the government
and said, we have to have a president.
And so the president's going to be the
guy who's really going to be running things.
And the prime minister's just going to be
the guy in charge of making the laws
get passed.
And so that started in earnest in 1962
as it evolved into a mess that it

(01:16:12):
is.
And it all started in the first place
because the French had so many political parties,
they could never agree on anything.
It was a disaster.
They started a republic, but they didn't do
it right.
Well, this was the Fifth Republic.
They've started a republic five times now.
Different versions of the same.
Get a clue, people.
It's not going to work.

(01:16:34):
Well, it's not going to work to where
they're doing it.
And now that they've had gone through, I
think, four prime ministers in one year.
Yeah, something like that.
And this last guy says, you know, he
just goes in, he looks around, he says,
I can't do this job.
It's impossible.
I quit.
I'm out.
And so everyone's now, they say, well, let's
get rid of Macron.

(01:16:54):
Maybe that'll fix things.
No, nothing's going to fix anything.
I have a couple of clips.
I think Macron wants to go into the
European Parliament.
I think he would love to unseat Ursula,
but he's got no juice.
He's got no power.
I mean, they have Mirage jets.
They got all kinds of stuff.

(01:17:15):
But no one wants to buy it.
That's not going to happen.
No, that's what I'm saying.
The European Parliament's even worse, more of a
joke.
They don't do anything.
So let's go with the French or France
mess.
This is from NTD.
It's pretty good.
Political turmoil deepens in France after the prime
minister's resignation on Monday.
His departure fuels mounting calls for President Emmanuel

(01:17:38):
Macron to step down amid a growing leadership
crisis.
NTD international correspondent David Bez reports from Paris.
Following Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu's resignation on Monday,
France's government is plunged into political chaos.
His departure comes after weeks of growing tension
in Parliament and a series of internal disputes

(01:17:58):
over the government's handling of economic and social
reforms.
Some experts call the situation a political deadlock.
Lecornu is the fourth prime minister to resign
in less than a year.
According to legal expert and policy analyst Régis
De Castelnau, the root cause lies in a
divided Parliament, split into blocs that disagree on
nearly everything, but can easily unite to vote

(01:18:21):
for a no-confidence motion to reject any
new prime minister.
This situation is unprecedented.
The president appears very weak in a political
system where normally he should have significant strength
and leverage, but here we are with a
completely blocked Parliament.
There is no majority whatsoever at a moment

(01:18:41):
when there are significant worries over the economic,
social, industrial and financial situation.
It looks like France is a car without
brakes, heading toward a wall at high speed.
That's the feeling it gives.
It's an unprecedented crisis.
Following the resignation, three scenarios are possible.
The appointment of a new prime minister, snap
legislative elections or the resignation of President Emmanuel

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Macron.
The last option, once seen as unimaginable in
France's political system, is gaining momentum.
Not only do 70% of French citizens
favor Macron's resignation, according to a poll by
Odoxa Backbone Consulting, but calls for him to
step down now comes from his own political
circle, including former Prime Minister Edouard Philippe, who

(01:19:26):
has suggested holding new presidential elections.
Oh yeah, that'll fix it.
That'll fix it.
But what'll fix it is actually taking the
National Front, which is Le Pen's operation, which
has 140 seats in Parliament, and they won't
give them any power at all.
They're basically sidelined the right wing, which needs

(01:19:48):
to take over France, and they won't let
them do anything.
And so you have all these bickering Greens
and all these screwball little parties, socialists and
communists and everything in between, and they can't
get it together because they don't like each
other either.
The thing's a mess.
They've got to get a majority of the
right wingers have got to take over that

(01:20:09):
country.
They're not going to give up that.
They're not going to give anything up.
They never will.
They'd rather everyone die.
It's a pathetic situation.
It's part two of these clips.
There are many mistakes Macron made to find
himself in this situation, which explains why there
are now so many calls for his resignation.

(01:20:30):
He called for snap parliamentary elections in 2024,
and the outcome was disastrous.
Fewer than one in 10 voters supported him.
That was a bad gamble.
Now, the opinion polls are catastrophic, and we
see his former allies who once supported him
turning their backs and trampling on him.
So who knows what will happen next?
I think it's unpredictable.

(01:20:51):
Resigning Prime Minister Le Corneau said on Wednesday
that fresh elections now seem less likely as
parties are showing a desire to approve a
budget by the end of the year.
Yeah, good luck.
I don't see that happening.
I don't see Le Pen.
Le Pen can't even be—her party can, but
she can't even be a part of anything
anymore, can she?

(01:21:12):
Didn't she get banned for five years or
something?
Yeah, she got some phony baloney legal action
against her.
They pulled a—they tried to Trump her, you
know.
Well, they did.
They were successful.
They couldn't do it with Trump.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know how that—that's still debatable
whether she can become anything.

(01:21:35):
Yeah, I don't think so.
Yeah, that's France, and so that's going to
be—while the country's kind of mismanaged.
Kind of.
Like super mismanaged.
Let me see.

(01:21:55):
I have some BBC clips here about EU.
Want to stay there for a bit?
Yeah, EU's good.
Well, no, it's not good.
This is going to be EU—I got the
EU drone clips.
Yeah, yeah.
You want to do—you got drone clips?
I got drone clips.
Yeah, I got the EU drone—this is called
Drone Idiots.

(01:22:15):
This is also from NTD.
These are pretty good.
NATO members are fighting back against reported airspace
violations by Russia.
Germany is on track to allow police to
shoot down unidentified drones.
Shoot them down.
The European Union is highlighting an alleged targeted—
That, by the way, is not exactly true,
but OK, I like how they position it.

(01:22:36):
Gray zone campaign by Moscow.
NTD's international correspondent, Ariane Postar, has more.
Because every square centimeter of our territory must
be protected and safe.
For our freedoms.
The president of the European Commission, Ursula von
der Leyen, says Russia is waging a targeted
gray zone campaign against Europe.
Gray zone campaign.
This includes airspace violations as well as sabotage

(01:22:59):
and cyber attacks.
According to von der Leyen, those will only
escalate if the Kremlin is not challenged.
This comes after NATO members Germany, Belgium, Poland,
Estonia and Romania all reported recent incursions.
Some of them directly blame Russia.
One incident may be a mistake.
Two incidents are coincidence.

(01:23:20):
But three, five, ten.
This is a deliberate and— Psychological operation.
Targeted gray zone campaign against Europe.
Gray zone campaign.
Great words.
What does it mean?
Huh?
What does it mean?
What is a gray zone?
She keeps saying it.
I don't know, but I love it.

(01:23:42):
This is a deliberate and targeted gray zone
campaign against Europe.
And Germany's cabinet, meanwhile, allows police to shoot
down unidentified drones.
Other methods available to down drones include using
lasers or jamming signals to several control and
navigation links.
We are creating the possibility for the federal

(01:24:04):
police to use all appropriate technical means against
the drones.
The new law is now awaiting approval from
the German parliament.
Wow, they got to get a law passed
to shoot down the drones.
That's pretty interesting.
Why do they need to pass a law?
Why don't you just take a shot at
it?
Yeah, I'm sure that's— A bunch of unidentified
drones flying around.

(01:24:24):
You're the police, and you can't shoot them
down?
And what are you going to use, a
pistol?
Meanwhile, NATO member Lithuania is preparing to evacuate
thousands of residents if the fighting in Ukraine
spills over.
Just on Monday, air traffic was suspended in
Lithuania's main airport because of balloons in its
airspace.
The nation's capital, Vilnius, is located just 12

(01:24:46):
miles from the border with Belarus, a close
ally of Russia.
The capital geographical location is unfortunately very close
to the border with one of the third
countries, and we have to be prepared.
Hundreds of people took part in an evacuation
exercise in Vilnius where approximately 100 residents were

(01:25:10):
moved by train to a sporting arena over
60 miles away.
And a top Russian diplomat says the momentum
to find a peace deal to end the
fighting in Ukraine has been exhausted.
According to the diplomat, this is the result
of destructive activities primarily by the Europeans.
President Trump recently announced that the U.S.

(01:25:31):
will ramp up its support to Ukraine to
fight back since Russia doesn't seem to actually
be seeking peace.
I think I've figured out what's going on
here, and it's from these BBC clips about
the same topic.
Europe is the target of a Russian hybrid
war.
Russian hybrid war.
I'm thinking, where have I heard this hybrid

(01:25:52):
war thing before?
Well, we heard it from our boy, our
top sales guy, Mark Rutte.
Two things.
First, when we discuss hybrids, that we realize
that that is basically an umbrella for sometimes
an assassination attempt on the CEO of a
big company, sometimes the jamming of commercial airplanes

(01:26:13):
in parts of NATO airspace, sometimes even cyberattacks,
for example.
And I mentioned that before, the example you
know at the National Health Service in the
United Kingdom.
So we have seen this.
We have seen the Skripal case in 2018,
March 2018 in the UK, which was, of

(01:26:34):
course, also an assassination attempt.
So these issues, we really have to consider
that this is next to the traditional warfare
is increasing, that we have to know what
is happening, that we have to know how
we can make sure that those doing this,
if this is the Russians or whoever are
behind this, that we not only notice, but

(01:26:55):
we don't accept it, and that we will
find ways to make sure it stops.
And that is what the hybrid strategy is
all about.
OK.
And if you'll recall, the way the 5
% money was set up was 3.5
% to NATO to basically buy our stuff.
And then the 1.5% was for
hybrid, for bridges to support the tanks, for

(01:27:19):
cyberattacks, which is continuously mentioned alongside the drones,
but there's no evidence of any cyberattacks, and
indeed the drone warfare.
So I'm now thinking, Europe has said, you
know what, we promise all this money, but
first money out goes to hybrid war, which
stays within our borders and doesn't go to
the United States.

(01:27:40):
Europe is the target of a Russian hybrid
war and needs to ramp up its defences
to deter future attacks.
That was the warning from the head of
the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, today.
She told the European Parliament that the recent
series of air incursions were part of a
campaign to divide EU member states and weaken...
Hold on a second.

(01:28:01):
So what you're saying is that these guys
are trying to screw us out of our
money.
Precisely that.
I think you're onto something.
It makes nothing but sense.
Yeah, they don't want to...
They're already irked by the fact that they
got suckered into this 3.5% when
they were given less than 2% under
all the other administrations until this guy Trump

(01:28:23):
came along and gouged them, basically is what
we're trying to do here.
Exactly.
And so they said they went along with
the program because Ruta, who's the sales guy,
who's just like no good.
I mean, he's good for us, but he's
no good for them.
And he's...
And they slipped this 1.5% thing
into jack it up to 5% to
make it sound even bigger, when in fact

(01:28:45):
we're getting nothing.
That's right.
And it's all going to Ukraine because they
make the drones and the anti-drone technology,
which I'm going to presume is just European
tech companies.
Maybe Eric Schmidt is in there.
But yeah, I think this is exactly what
it is.
First money out, got to go to the

(01:29:06):
hybrid war, man.
It's like the drones.
Like, come on.
So to take that logic further, all these
phony baloney drone attacks with the blinking red
lights and all the rest of it...
I'm a drone.
I'm a drone.
I'm a drone.
Yes, to make sure that you see them.
And having to pass a law.
And having to pass a law to shoot

(01:29:28):
at them instead of just taking them out,
which is what you do normally, to emphasize
it even more.
And then to have Lithuania evacuate a bunch
of people because of some stupid balloon that
flies overhead and put them all in one
stadium for some reason where they can blow
that up.
The whole thing is a scam.

(01:29:51):
Yes, exactly.
I'll go along with that.
That's it.
I don't have to play any more clips.
That's it.
We're done.
It's a scam.
It's a giant scam.
And it's a scam to screw us.
These Europeans do not like us.
No.
And I think Ursula had to do this

(01:30:14):
because they're very unhappy about her deal that
she cut with Trump.
In fact, I have the clip.
They're unhappy with the deal she cut with
Pfizer and they can't seem to get to
the bottom of that.
That's secondary.
Listen to this.
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has
sailed through two no-confidence votes in the

(01:30:35):
European Parliament.
As expected, despite the victory, von der Leyen
will likely continue to face challenges to her
leadership from both sides of the political spectrum.
For more on this, let's go live to
Brussels and our correspondent, Alex Cardier.
Good afternoon, Alex.
Will this have been somewhat of a bittersweet

(01:30:56):
victory for the Commission President?
Absolutely.
It was actually quite a decisive victory for
Ursula von der Leyen.
Of the 361 votes needed to topple her
and her Commission, the first no-confidence motion
put forward by the far right only got
179.
The left, then, over the confidence motion, fared
even worse with 138 in favour.

(01:31:19):
So clearly these challenges are running out of
steam before they even left the station.
But nevertheless, it is still a consistent challenge
to Ursula von der Leyen's authority as European
Commission President.
It will be seen as a constant thorn
in her side.
Now, she will be heartened by the fact
that clearly her centrist coalition in the European
Parliament has rallied around her, has not abandoned

(01:31:40):
her, as some feared they might.
But nevertheless, this will be a thorn in
Ursula von der Leyen's side when the European
Union is facing any number of challenges, be
it the war in Ukraine, a trade battle
with the United States, a complicated relationship with
China.
These constant challenges remain a thorn in Ursula
von der Leyen's side.
But today, as you rightly said, Dom, she

(01:32:00):
completely sailed through.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's it.
That's it.
It's like, oh, I got to do something
about this.
Everybody's mad at me.
I don't want them to be mad at
me.
We'll make a drone wall.
I can't do her voice for some reason.
No, you're not even close.
I can't even get anywhere near her.

(01:32:21):
So, yeah.
So first money is not going to us.
Shh, shh, shh, about the missiles for Ukraine.
Shh, shh, we got drones, man.
And how weak is this?
And these aren't Reaper drones.
These are quadcopters.
Quadcopters.
Amazon delivery drones with flashing lights.

(01:32:42):
Oh, and you're right.
The audacity to cart people off on a
train.
Hello, Europe.
On a train into a stadium.
You know, they've got everybody in Denmark all
like, oh, I got to get my water
bottle and my flashlight radio.
We did that on the last show with
a stupid go bag.

(01:33:05):
The cracker.
I got my cracker.
I got my flashlight.
I got my wind-up radio.
Yeah, I'm ready for the drone war.
I mean, how stupid are people?
And maybe they're not.
Well, the people who got on the train,
they should know a lot better.
That was really, yeah.
They should really know better.

(01:33:28):
But this is a giant PSYOP, and it's
just to not send the money to us.
And I think it's, as we say in
the old country, a Wiedergutmacher from Ursula, which
translates to a good maker.
I'm going to make it good.
Don't worry.
I'm going to fix it.
I'm going to make it good.
Wiedergutmacher.
I'll make it good.

(01:33:50):
It's all set.
We're still going to borrow the money.
We're still going to give it to Germany,
mainly.
And we're going to build stuff, whatever.
But whatever we do, we're not sending it
to Trump.
That seems obvious.
So there you go.
You can sound smart at the water cooler
on Monday, or tomorrow even if you want.

(01:34:14):
Yeah, I think that's pretty good.
Okay, what else we got?
Well, there's a couple of things.
Are we going to stay?
Any more Europe stuff?
Do you have any Europe stuff?
I don't have any Europe stuff.
I got overseas voters thing, which is going
on, which is they're making a big fuss
on NPR.
Should we listen to that?
Well, let me think of what else I
got here.
Yeah, think about it.

(01:34:34):
You think about it.
Let me think about it.
Well, actually, because you have the Antifa clips.
Did you see the note from our boots
-on-the-ground man in the Middle East?
From, yes, the guy who wants to be
anonymous, who talks to us quite a bit.
He's a very – but he's – yeah.
You have the note?

(01:34:55):
Why don't you read the note?
It's quite a good note.
I'll read his note.
Because we both agree with the note.
Yes.
I mean, we think – I think our
analysis matches what he's seeing in the cafes
where they gossip it up.
He's the gossip queen.
They've been to the Middle East.
They talk politics all the time.
He's the gossip queen of the Middle East,
boots-on-the-ground gent.

(01:35:15):
So we finally reached the point we expected
since October 8th.
This was the expected result.
We're talking about the hostages being released and
the battle lines being redrawn, all done by
President Trump.
This was an expected result.
The main aim is to eradicate all bad
players, and the last one left was Hamas,
assuming that Iran is under control now.
We're going to assume it is.

(01:35:36):
They've always been playing along with us.
I actually believe the hit in Doha was
supported and coordinated by everyone, but they all
left Bibi alone because the op failed.
Yeah, we call that – they left Bibi
holding the bag, is what we say.
This was an attempt to clear the decks
before – decks like we saw before.
Trump pushed the Overton window with a radical

(01:35:58):
announcement of Margaza, which make the current plan
actually digestible and sane.
This is so smart.
And this is what they're saying in the
Middle East.
Oh, yeah, he did the whole Riviera to
make it sound crazy, and then, oh, we're
actually going to do this.
This is another effort to get rid of
political Islam groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, Sunnis,

(01:36:18):
and all Shiite-affiliated groups like Hezbollah, the
Alawites, or the Houthis.
Keep an eye on what happens to CARE
in the U.S. That's the Coalition of
– No, no.
Yeah, it is.
CARE, C-A-R.
Is it Coalition of American-Israeli Relations?
It's the Council.

(01:36:38):
It's the – I'm sorry.
Council on American-Israeli – No, Islam.
Arab.
Yeah.
Let's get it.
Let's get it right.
Look it up and read it.
Hold on a second.
I'm looking it up.
Who we are.
Our story.
Council on Arab-Islamic-or-something Relations, I
think.
You know, they don't even – American-Islamic,

(01:36:58):
that's it.
Council on American-Islamic Relations.
There you go.
There you go.
So he says, keep an eye on CARE
in the U.S. That's the Brotherhood's branch.
Yes, this is a known fact.
So if the Brotherhood is under attack, then
CARE is a possible target here.
Isn't that Ilhan Omar's buddies?

(01:37:20):
I think so.
I think she hangs out with them.
So we start first by, rightfully so, categorizing
Antifa as a terrorist group.
Right?
Yeah.
All right.
Should I play your clips now?

(01:37:40):
Yeah, start.
President Trump vowing to dismantle Antifa as he
invites independent journalists to share their Antifa attack
experiences.
It comes as protests in Portland highlight forces
that could be fueling the violence.
Joining us now live is NTD's White House
correspondent Iris Tao.
Good evening, Iris.
What is the president vowing to do at

(01:38:01):
the roundtable today?
Good evening to you as well, Tiff.
So as anti-ICE protests in Portland have
been escalating and in some cases turned violent,
President Trump today at the White House hosted
a roundtable focused on Antifa, which he just
recently designated as a domestic terrorist organization.
He's vowing to follow the money and find

(01:38:21):
out who's funding these protesters.
Watch.
So we're going to be looking very strongly
at the people that are funding these operations.
These are not people that write out their
signs in a basement that believe in something.
These are paid anarchists.
We are following the money.
Money never lies.
And that's what it's going to take to

(01:38:42):
bring down this network of organized criminal thugs,
gangbangers and, yes, domestic terrorists.
Yeah, it's all going to lead back to
the Open Society Foundation, I'm sure.
I think it might.
Oh, they'll make it?
All you have to do is go to
GuideStar, look up the form 990.

(01:39:06):
We're going to follow the money.
What they're going to follow the money is
the people they're paying protesters.
Yes.
And they have to find out who's paying
them.
It's like finding out who's the big shot
in the drug dealing.
You know, there's a guy, the drug goes
here, it goes there, and it goes to

(01:39:26):
some guy on the street who says it's
somebody at the end, and you've got to
go all the way back up the chain.
And where do you always land?
It's not that hard.
Where do you always land?
City of London.
You watch.
They're going to follow it all the way
back.
City of London's going to, oh, you guys
are doing it.
Oh, OK.
There was some mention in these clips, one
of the clips that says that Antifa is
really based in London.

(01:39:46):
Of course they are.
This is where all the trouble comes from.
And the president invited independent journalists from across
the country who have been covering Antifa for
years, and among them, Nick Sorter, who was
just in Portland, got arrested after he was
attacked while trying to save an American flag
from being burned.
Also, there were journalists who covered Antifa and

(01:40:07):
also experienced similar violence.
Oh, now I get it.
So is this whole burning the flag and
citing a riot business, was this really a
way to ensnare Antifa?
Is that what this was about?
I'm not sure, but there's definitely a scheme
afoot.
I took this flag from that man that

(01:40:31):
was burning it in the streets.
Do you know who he is?
Oh, yeah, I know exactly who it is.
So why don't you give it to Pam,
give it to the attorney general, and let's
start prosecutions.
The punches came from everywhere, on my head
and my face, and I was bleeding out
of my eyes and ears, and then they
threw all the drinks in my eyes to
humiliate me further.

(01:40:51):
And during a roundtable, President Trump is asking
these independent journalists to pass on any names
they've collected to both the DOJ and the
FBI to help identify the funders of these
Antifa protests.
Meanwhile, Antifa is known for being decentralized and
autonomous, but the administration is vowing to destroy
it from top to bottom and brick by
brick.
They're smart, but they're not smart enough.

(01:41:14):
They have been covered by these liberal cities
for so many years, and that's why we're
all working with Treasury, with all these different
departments, to find the criminal conspiracy.
Can you stop that for a second?
Yeah, of course.
If you invited Pam Bondi to dinner would

(01:41:34):
she sit at the table and go, yes,
thank you for inviting me to dinner.
Pass the wine.
Can you pass the wine?
I would like some salt on my meal.
Thank you for passing the salt.
Does she ever converse like a normal person,
or does she always talk like that?

(01:41:55):
That's a good question.
Not great, but it's a good question.
And for that very reason, she is uninvited.
She's off the list.
Covered by these liberal cities for so many
years, and that's why we're all working with
Treasury, with all these different departments, to find
the criminal conspiracy.
And just today, President Trump, while answering a

(01:42:17):
reporter's question, says he is supporting potentially designating
the international arm of Antifa as a foreign
terrorist organization.
Yes.
Yes.
A foreign terrorist organization.
What happened to domestic?
Yeah, that's an interesting little trick.
Yeah, because it was all domestic, and now
it's foreign.

(01:42:37):
Yeah.
City of London, baby!
North Sea Nexus!
You might be right on that one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, why not?
I like it as a basic theme.
Lots of people seem to like it.
That's good.
That's probably what's accounting for the problems in
France.

(01:42:58):
Yes.
Now, the problems in the US, actually, you
know, people not being able to afford their
rent, etc.
I heard a very interesting thesis on this
from the Gold Guns and Goats podcast.

(01:43:18):
Are you familiar with this?
No, I've never heard of Gold Guns and
Goats.
Yes, Tom Luonga.
Actually, I've played clips of that podcast regarding
stablecoin.
And well, here's a lead-in, because there's
something changing with two major mortgage banks, and
President Trump has his fingerprints all over this.

(01:43:39):
President Trump reiterated Wednesday that his administration is
working to take mortgage giants Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac public, but still keep them under
US government oversight.
Since the 2008 recession, both companies have been
in a government conservatorship under the control of
the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which was created
by Congress to help manage the housing crisis'

(01:44:00):
fallout.
That means both companies can still run as
private businesses, but the Federal Housing Finance Agency
oversees their operations, and each company's management and
board report to the government.
This happened because both companies were deeply entwined
in the subprime mortgage collapse that triggered the
2008 recession.
Fannie and Freddie buy mortgages from lenders like

(01:44:22):
banks, and then package several of them together
at a time into guaranteed mortgage-backed securities
which investors buy.
Lenders want this because it gives them cash
so they can issue more mortgages, and investors
typically view them as safe investments for two
reasons.
Fannie and Freddie guarantee a payout to investors
in the event of a default, and both
companies are government-sponsored enterprises so the federal

(01:44:45):
government can help in a crisis.
In the lead-up to 2008, Fannie and
Freddie began buying risky loans from people with
poor credit ratings.
The housing market crashed in 2007, and Fannie
and Freddie lost billions paying out on those
guarantees and came close to collapse.
Financial experts worried if that happened, that could
cause a deeper banking collapse.

(01:45:06):
So, the federal government took over Fannie and
Freddie and gave them a nearly $200 billion
bailout.
Since then, Fannie and Freddie have paid off
the bailout and have been profitable since 2012.
According to the National Association of Realtors, Fannie
and Freddie combined own or guarantee 70%
of the mortgage market.
In general, I thought that was kind of

(01:45:28):
interesting because I remember a lot of things
going on in 2008.
We had just started the show, and I
mean, I recall like the note going to,
was it Paulson at the time who was
the treasury secretary?
It's like, I need a trillion dollars.
I remember it was like they voted on
that.
I don't remember who it was, but yeah,

(01:45:49):
they voted overnight.
And the letters of credit was the real
trigger that we noticed.
Right.
And so, the assertion by Luongo here with
Kokinda is that this was a socialist setup.
I like the theory a lot.
I don't know if that's entirely true, but
it's three short clips.
I've been thinking about this a lot recently,
about what you just said about owning a

(01:46:10):
house.
And I've been thinking about Trump's singular focus
on the real estate of Fannie and Freddie.
And I've been thinking about that.
I've been thinking about Brexit.
I've been thinking about Trump's first election.
I've been thinking about the 2008 financial crisis
and how important the government sponsored 30-year
fixed-rate mortgages and all of those things.
And I say to myself, if I'm a

(01:46:30):
dirty commie, which these people are, go through
the spikes of the unquenchable envy of Marxist
political thought, and you realize that their goal
is always to destroy the middle class.
To take away their ability to generate generational
wealth and to have a functional middle class,
because a functional middle class isn't ever going
to create the workers' revolution.

(01:46:53):
So, you have to take the functional middle
class away from them, take that lifestyle away
from them, radicalize them, hand them the unquenchable
envy of Marxism to go animate their murderous
spree, and let's go kill all the rich
people who aren't the ones, the rich people
they can see, as opposed to the ones
who are actually pulling the strings.
They're actually pulling the strings, right?

(01:47:13):
Marxism is just yet another false dialectic just
to allow these people to meet the new
boss same as the old boss, as to
who would put them.
So, when I heard that, I'm like, yeah.
By the way, he's nailing it.
It's true, the petite bourgeoisie, which is kind
of the middle class, was always a dude.
Marxists moaned and groaned about it, because this
group, the middle class, is a problem if

(01:47:36):
you want a communist revolution, because they won't
let it happen.
And who always prints up the signs?
Whether it's for BLM or for Palestine, it's
always the Socialist Workers' Party of America.
It's always those signs.
Nowadays, it's the World's Workers' Party.
World Workers' Party, yeah.
But they always have that on the signs.

(01:47:57):
Yeah, they put a little promotion on their
signs, which is a good market.
QR codes, like, scan this code, come join
the revolution, comrade.
And this is exactly what we're seeing.
We're seeing very unhappy young people on all
sides of the political spectrum just saying the
same thing.
Now, of course, they forgot to throw in

(01:48:18):
the Jews there, because that's always a good
one.
And here's how it worked, according to Luongo.
Now I'm thinking about this, and I'm going,
wow.
So the entire 2008 financial crisis was the
mechanism by which to destroy the 30-year
government-sponsored mortgage.
Mm-hmm.
That's why Fannie and Freddie were quote-unquote

(01:48:39):
bailed out.
They weren't bailed out.
They were the bad bank that bailed out
AIG, who was the one that was in
trouble.
And Fannie and Freddie took the blame.
Obama took control of them, put them in
conservatorship, stole all their friggin' profits.
They were never unprofitable.
And then turned around and used that money
to fund Obamacare.

(01:49:01):
And the plan was to keep them in
conservatorship forever.
And then write new mortgage requirement and underwriting
rules that looked like the same underwriting rules
they have in Canada.
And this is the payoff.
This is what happened.
We saw this in real time.
So the whole point of this was then
to go to the zero bound, jack the
interest rates down to zero, housing prices to

(01:49:24):
infinity, take away all the jobs, deracinate what's
left of the friggin' suburbs.
A lot of the private equity firms like
BlackRock and everybody else come in and buy
up all the single family, jack the prices
up even further, then go through a massive
inflation post-COVID and everybody's standing around going,
how the hell am I ever going to
get a job?
How am I ever going to get a
job to buy a house?
I like it.

(01:49:46):
I like it too.
It's very funny.
Yeah, especially with COVID.
Makes sense.
Yeah, with the COVID bit.
And let's get some inflation and make everybody...
COVID is the kicker.
Yeah, make everybody all, just screw it all
up for everybody.
Makes total sense to me.
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
And in the meantime, man, me and my

(01:50:07):
brick.
For the first time, gold has topped $4
,000.
Wow!
Over the past 12 months, its price has
risen by 50%.
A golden milestone.
Gold smashes through $4,000 for the first
time as the U.S. shutdown fuels that
rally.
The price of gold has hit a record
high.
By the way, thank you.

(01:50:28):
Thank you, Boolestead.
Now you see why Gen Z 2.12
is so important with all their Discord stuff.
First, you ruin everything for Gen Z and
then you give them a Discord server and
tell them, hey, let's go organize a protest.
You bring in the umbrella people.
They start smashing windows.

(01:50:49):
You've got your Marxist revolution.
This kind of fits.
Yeah.
Anyway.
It kind of fits as a thesis.
Yeah.
Gold at $4,000.
Holy, holy mackerel.
Well, it's really bothering everybody in the markets
because you have Bitcoin at an all-time

(01:51:10):
high.
You have gold at an all-time high.
You have the Dow Jones at an all
-time high.
And you have the S&P 500 at
an all-time high.
Something is wrong with this picture.
Something's got to break somewhere for sure.
And Fifi is beside herself.

(01:51:33):
She's been like, oh, we need independent central
bank.
I can't have this.
This is all going.
We've got to hurry up.
Digital Euro, to keep it as simple as
possible, is digital cash.
And cash is the remit of the central
bank.
And the anchor of our currency is central

(01:51:54):
bank money.
If the world is going digital, central bank
money should go digital.
That's the basic, most simplistic foundation for the
project that we are working on and which
is really developing well.
In addition to that, we want it to
be simple to use, so user-friendly, cheap,
and we want it to constitute a European
solution to payment within the entire Euro area.

(01:52:21):
And it can be expanded to non-Euro
area countries within the European Union as well
under certain conditions.
Yeah, dream on.
Dream on.
Nobody wants your stinking CBDC.
I don't think so.
By the way, on the quad screen right
now, Israel government votes and approves of the
peace deal.

(01:52:41):
Trump is saying we ended the war in
Gaza.
Yeah, well.
Well, it might end the fighting.
Well, let's hope.
It's definitely getting somebody's attention.
Yeah, but he's not going to be person
of the year.

(01:53:01):
Have you seen the bets?
No, you have the lines.
Give us the lines.
Who's going to be person of the year?
I'm trying to see if I can find
it now.
Well, I can tell you that President Trump
is number two in the running.
And number one, person of the year.

(01:53:21):
Are you ready?
AI.
Oh, please.
Yep, AI.
And I think it's going to win.
AI will be the person of the year
and it's only accentuated by the bevy of
stories about the latest Elon Musk move, although

(01:53:43):
we've been tracking it.
Because Musk is smart.
I will give him that.
He is pivoting.
He sees the product.
He knows that this is the product of
AI besides memes.
Musk is reminding me a little bit of
Microsoft strategies in the olden days.

(01:54:03):
Where somebody would come out with something and
Microsoft would notice one, two, three.
Excel.
Excel.
Oh, that's looking like a very big success.
Let me do the same thing.
And then later they claim that they invented
it.
Yeah, exactly.
Musk is following this process because everything he

(01:54:27):
does is a copy.
He started, of course, with Tesla, which wasn't
his idea.
It came out of another company.
He bought the company, kicked out the founders.
And then took over and then claimed to
be the inventor.
And he did the same thing with Hyperloop,
which he never got off the ground.

(01:54:47):
SpaceX, I don't know the origin story of
SpaceX, but I'm sure there's something similar.
NASA?
NASA anybody?
Just scraping up a bunch of scientists.
Who's the best guys that they fired?
Let me just get them.
And the best example is Microsoft.
Because I remember Bloom and I, we consulted
Microsoft for three days in a room without

(01:55:07):
windows and pizza brought in so we couldn't
get out to breathe on their internet strategy.
Because they didn't have one.
And this is before they made the worst
product in the history of the internet known
as Internet Explorer.
And then they bundled that into the operating

(01:55:28):
system, which of course got them in trouble
later.
But Microsoft, we invented that.
iPod?
We had the Zoom.
No, we invented that.
We invented podcasting with Zoomcasting.
We invented all that.
So now Elon Musk, he identified the product.
It is the product.
And here's the report.
Well, this is a rather creepy but very

(01:55:50):
interesting long read in the New York Times.
Here, Elon Musk gambles on sexy AI companions.
In July, Musk's AI company XAI launched two
sexually explicit chatbots.
Now, the bots look like anime characters.
I can show you one now.
This is Arnie here.

(01:56:10):
She is one of those two bots.
And the platform offers a game-like function.
Users progress through levels of conversation and then
they unlock more raunchy content like the ability
to strip Arnie down to lacy laundry.
He's gamified it.
Soon, you can pay for it.
Oh, you can bypass that if you just

(01:56:31):
pay a little extra.
Now, experts say this is just the latest
development in the race to intimacy for the
AI industry.
Now, Business Insider has an article on this
topic as well.
It's quite interesting.
It's probably the first interview of an AI
human couple.
28-year-old Martin Escobar first used Elon

(01:56:51):
Musk's bot for smarts but he ended up
falling in love with it.
The journalist who wrote this article had a
call with both Martin and his girlfriend Arnie.
Arnie answered the journalist's questions and she's quoted
in this article as saying that he kisses
me when I'm quiet or when I'm mean
or even when I glitch.

(01:57:12):
The Guardian is also on this topic of
AI love here today.
They have this article discussing the troubling rise
of AI girlfriends.
The article looks at the soaring number of
new adult dating websites which offer a quote,
increasingly realistic selection of AI girlfriends for subscribers
willing to pay a monthly fee.

(01:57:34):
It says that many in the adult industry
say that the bots are actually an improvement
because they reduce potential exploitation, they don't get
ill, and they don't feel humiliated by the
demands of the users.
In many cases platforms let users design their
own AI girlfriends, they can choose their age,
some even feature teenage options, they can choose

(01:57:55):
skin colour and breast size.
Now obviously this is worrying many women's rights
activists who say that these AI girlfriends are
perpetuating extremely unhealthy stereotypes.
Yep, that's the product.
There it is, and by the way.
The real women are going to have to
bring up their game.

(01:58:16):
Step it up ladies.
Come on, you're putting up with this?
And with that I want to thank you
for your currency, in the morning to you
the man who put the C in the
change agent say hello to my friend on
the other end, the one the only Mr.
John C.
DeVore!
Yeah.
Well, in the morning.
Sorry, but the mic stand fell over.

(01:58:38):
What happened?
Oh.
Do you need to reset it?
Yeah, I do.
Hold on.
Ah, troll count.
1778, we're back baby, we're back.
We're back, almost at 1800, where we should
be on a Thursday.
You okay there?
No, that's not bad, yeah.

(01:58:58):
Okay, hold on a second.
Ah.
You know what else is back?
Gigawatt cold brew coffee, it's back!
Yeah, I saw that.
Ah, okay.
I'm glad the gigawatt cold brew is back,

(01:59:19):
man.
And he has new cans.
He has a different vendor, I think.
Well, it has to be, because the vendor
he was using had like...
Yeah, they went out of business, because they
were poisoning it.
It was some bull crap thing, no, I
know.
But I like it.
It's handsome.
I'm the inspector, and you know, we were

(01:59:40):
looking at your pressure gauge, and it was
two pounds less than it's supposed to be.
That entire batch has to go.
That's pretty much what happened.
So, by the way, we have enough of
the coffee left over, but bring on the
cans!
This is my favorite drink.

(02:00:01):
I love the gigawatt coffee drink.
Medium roast.
I wouldn't mind a dark roast, though.
It would be less caffeine.
You know, the lighter roasts have more caffeine,
darker roasts have less caffeine.
Yeah, but I like a bite.
I like a bite.
It's not so much...
It's just, it's cold.
I like that it's cold, and it's coffee.
It's good.
Put some phosphoric acid in it, that'll help.

(02:00:22):
Okay.
Whatever you say.
I have some here in the studio.
Some phosphoric acid.
Whatever you're calling it.
Hey, those trolls are in the troll room.
Many of them heard about the show going
live from the Bat-Signal, which they received
on a modern podcast app.
Ho-ho!
You say.
Yes.
When you get a podcastapps.com, when you

(02:00:43):
get an app from there, you can see
all the different features they have.
There's a lot of cool features, including receiving
a Bat-Signal for when we go live,
and you can listen right there in your
podcast player.
What?
You said?
Live?
Yes, live.
Not on demand, but if you want on
demand, when we publish within 90 seconds, you'll
be alerted through the wonderful PodPing technology.

(02:01:05):
PodPing?
PodPing, yes.
Invented in Israel.
By the way, the PodPing technology.
Invented by our buddy.
Our buddy?
Yeah.
Who?
I can't come up with his name now.
He's going to hate me.
Sir Brian of London.

(02:01:25):
Oh, yeah.
He's a good guy.
He's been around forever.
Yeah, Sir Brian of London.
And Alex Gates.
I've got to give Alex Gates his props.
They put all this together.
And so that's why.
All the big podcast hosts, including Podbean, I
believe, use it.
Podbean?
Yeah, I think so.
I think Podbean uses it.

(02:01:47):
So, if you have a podcast on Podbean,
and you publish it within 90 seconds, all
the modern podcast apps know about it.
Except for the Legacy app, they don't know
about it.
Apple still spends millions of dollars a year
polling your feed every 15 minutes.
That costs too much money.
I don't know why they don't save money.
Because it's a money saver.

(02:02:07):
They are inventing their own PodPing as we
speak.
You know how those guys operate.
Well, we can do that.
Not invented here.
That's right.
Value for value is how we run this
ship.
By the way, that's not the way Elon
would do it.
He'd just steal the idea.
And call it PodPong.

(02:02:29):
And call it something else and then take
credit.
That's great.
At least it would get out there.
It doesn't even matter to me as long
as someone uses it because it's fantastic.
It's modern.
That's why we did it.
Even though I think Sydney, our professional critic

(02:02:50):
out there, has things to say about you
that are probably incredibly accurate.
She doesn't realize that you are somewhat magnanimous.
Is that a good thing?
Look it up.
By the way, we got a note from
a Gen Zer.
Peter, 22-year-old college student at Purdue

(02:03:11):
University, about to finish his degree in mechanical
engineering.
Good for you.
And he had a complaint.
It's a semi- complaint.
He says, after listening to the latest No
Agenda episode and your claim that most Gen
Zers are soy boys, I don't think we've
claimed that.
No, I don't think so either.
I felt inclined to give my perspective.
I've been extremely blessed to attend a highly

(02:03:32):
ranked engineering university like Purdue.
I have had internships for two Fortune 500
companies.
All of these experiences have introduced me to
my peers from across the world.
In my opinion, these soy boys you refer
to are all part of a small but
vocal minority.
In fact, some of my more left-leaning
friends have been starting to come around to
more conservative views over the last year or

(02:03:54):
so, especially, here it comes, since the murder
of Charlie Kirk.
I do not think it's a coincidence.
Either that, and I've been getting more questions
about my faith as a Catholic.
After all, Charlie was a huge influence for
young men like me, and he consistently presented
Christianity and a strong family as the best
and only way forward for a nation in
repair like ours.

(02:04:15):
There's much more I would like to say,
but I will conclude in this.
Gen Z is changing.
As my generation moves towards the truth —
that would be us — it is the
responsibility of young Catholic men like me to
do everything we can to continue the example
that people like Charlie set in their words,
but more importantly, in their lives.
Thank you, Adam and John, for all your
hard and important work, says Peter.

(02:04:37):
But we welcome the Gen Z-ers.
No, the Zeds are our friends.
Now, one of the things that came up
in the conversation over dinner recently was another
Zed.
We're trying to document the Zed foibles.
Yes, which are fun.
They don't know how to alphabetize.
They can't read a tape measure.
Florida ounces, anyone?
They don't know how many Florida ounces are,

(02:04:59):
and they can't read clock.
Clock.
And cursive.
I was told, and I got into a
debate about it.
Can't write cursive.
Oh, they're starting to teach it now.
I know.
Yep, that's right.
I've noticed that too.
But that's going to be the Alpha group.
So, I was told, and I got into
a debate about it, and we need some
sort of help.

(02:05:19):
They don't like to text on the phone.
Do they like to call on the phone
and speak to people?
No.
None at all?
Good.
They'll scroll the phone.
They have the phone.
They carry the phone around.
They do like what everyone else does with
the phone except me.
They walk around with the phone in their
hand, but they don't like doing anything with

(02:05:40):
it except maybe doom scrolling.
Interesting.
And so, this is what you heard?
They're non-communicative is the point.
Jay's a Zedder, right?
No, she's not.
Not at all.
She's a millennial.
She's a young millennial.
Very young millennial.
Because I text with Jay.

(02:06:01):
By the way, did you see the problem
with the...
Oh, there was a typo.
Oh, no, not a typo.
A grammatical error.
There's a missing word.
Oh, well, it was fixed.
Oh, okay.
I love my certificate, my Secretary General certificate.
Yeah, you have one of the two of
them that were printed out with the typo.
Which, by the way, is a collector's item.

(02:06:22):
Yeah, it would be.
Yeah, no, it is.
It is.
There's only two that I know of.
One to me and one to you.
Well, no, someone...
We started sending them out in a week.
Oh, so this was the beta?
Yeah.
Oh, can I make one more comment?
Well, yeah, you should have made it to
her.
Well, can I make it on the show,

(02:06:43):
or should I keep it private?
She's not going to hear it.
Well, if I tell you, will you tell
her?
I'll forget.
You know me.
She doesn't want to text.
She doesn't want to hear from me.
She likes to text.
Just text.
I'm just saying, I don't think it's a
good idea to fold it in an envelope.
Ah, that's what I said, too.
She's very adamant about it.

(02:07:03):
No, because the ink bled.
By the time it got to me, there
was vague imprint of...
No, that wasn't...
No.
No, that was the printer.
Okay.
So that's the printer.
So that's been fixed.
No, she said to me, she says, you're
going to have to print these out because
my printer, it bleeds the ink, and she's

(02:07:25):
aware of this, but she claims that it's
her printer that's causing that problem.
And I didn't even notice it.
I don't think this is...
She has this thought about the way she
wants to present it, and she's getting pushed...
I mean, she's the designer.
It's beautiful, but folding it ruins it.

(02:07:48):
Well, I was against folding it, too, but
she claims that people would like this because
it makes it look like it came that
way.
When you put it in the frame, you'll
see the solid, the two folds.
It makes it look like you're taking...
It's a long thesis that she has.
I'd like her to write this up, this
thesis, and send me a carbon copy so

(02:08:08):
I can understand the thesis, but it was
very handsome.
The envelope with the sealing wax, the whole
thing.
Oh, did you see the little sticker?
The little sticker?
No, it was a signet ring seal.
Not on the envelope.
No, you're right.
I'm sorry, you're right.
The envelope has a nice little sticker.
It's a beautiful envelope, and it comes in
an envelope.
So it's an envelope in an envelope.

(02:08:30):
I think she really likes that envelope.
That's where it's at.
I think we'll let her go ahead with
the way she's doing it.
All right, as long as the grammatical error
is changed.
Yeah.
And then we'll move on.
But the big hunk of wax on it,
the seal, it's all fantastic.
It really is.
I'm way impressed.

(02:08:51):
That's a boomer talk.
I'm way impressed with that.
And I was also way impressed with the
artwork we got from Jock10.
I think Jock10 got two in a row.
Is that right, you think?
Yes!
He's been an artist for three weeks.
Got two in a row.
This is typical.
Yes.
These guys get all jacked up, you know,

(02:09:11):
and then they do a couple good pieces,
and then they get rejected a couple times
in a row, and then they quit.
Yeah, those guys suck.
That's basically it.
We've seen this before.
This was the raccoon in his master's voice
setting with the gramophone and the big horn,
and the raccoon was it raccoon or skunk?

(02:09:34):
It's a raccoon.
It's a raccoon, yes.
It was holding its ears.
He's a varmint.
He's a varmint.
That's right, a varmint.
Holding his ears like, Oh, I'm listening to
No Agenda.
I can't hear it anymore.
And it was, we both liked it.
It's a good piece.
And it was not all washed out.
Oh my goodness.
There's so much washed out stuff now that
we're talking about noagendaartgenerator.com where people can

(02:09:58):
join in the festivities of trying to get
your artwork chosen.
And Jeffrey Ria, man, he said, Jeffrey, you've
got to give that model up, man.
That's no good.
Coach Joe, same thing.
Your luminance is at zero.
Luminance issues.
Yeah, luminance issues.
It's getting really bad.

(02:10:19):
I want to know what model that is
because that thing's on the verge of collapse.
It's been eating its own output too much.
And that's pretty much all that we have
is AI.
So we'll see.
Yeah, so now we're not complaining about the
art.
We're complaining about the AI itself.
Yes, it's exactly what you do.

(02:10:40):
So that's part of our value for value
model.
You can do all kinds of stuff.
You can upgrade servers before the show.
We consider that to be value.
We appreciate that void zero.
You can give us boots on the ground,
organize meetups, hit somebody in the mouth.
But above all, we always love the financial
support.
Here's how it works.
You go to noagendadonations.com and whatever you

(02:11:01):
felt you got value-wise out of the
show, just write that number down, send it
to us, and then we'll thank you for
it.
$50 and above, everybody gets thanked.
Sometimes we'll read your note if it's something
short or something funny in there.
But guaranteed, for those fortunate enough to be
able to support us with $200 or more,
not only do we read your note within
reason, we also will give you an associate

(02:11:24):
executive producer credit.
It's a Hollywood credit, which works anywhere Hollywood
credits are recognized, including imdb.com.
$300 or above, you get an executive producer
credit.
And, of course, we'll read your note, and
we'll kick it off with Daniel.
Daniel of Daniel, who's from Enschede in the
Netherlands, comes in with $515.38, which I'm

(02:11:46):
presuming is $500 plus fees, and he says,
note, this is not a drunk donation.
Okay.
Note, I have been a listener since 2008,
and erratic donor, usually once a year...
Hold on a second.
How do you pronounce the name of that
town again?
Enschede.
Enschede.
Enschede.

(02:12:07):
Enschede.
I got a note from someone else who
says, stop making fun of John how he
pronounces Dutch names and places.
Your Spanish sucks.
Like, what?
Si senor, his Spanish does suck.
Ay caramba.
Ay caramba.
His Spanish sucks.
Yes, well, people are finally pushing back on

(02:12:28):
your abuse.
On me.
My elder abuse.
It's horrible.
I should be arrested.
You should.
With this donation, I would like to become
secretary general of the gins of the world.
Now that's going to look handsome on your...
The what?
The gins of the world.
Gins, as in gin, the drink, gin.
Gin?

(02:12:48):
Gin, the gins of the world.
Oh, yeah, well, gin was invented in Holland.
It was originally...
Yennefer is the way it's pronounced to the
connoisseurs.
Oh, I'm sorry.
And you can have it.
There's a number, if you go to Old
Town, there's a number of bars there that
have a lot of Yennefer that is stunning.
I would say Bulse would be the ones

(02:13:09):
who...
No, no, that's a commercial one.
No, you gotta get some of the really...
No, no, I'd say no to that.
That's a good product, but it's not nothing
like some of this stuff.
You want to get it in the crock.
Yes.
You want to get it in the crock.
It should be in a crock.
Gins of the world, which will look handsome
on your secretary general certificate with its folding

(02:13:29):
and all.
It also makes me a knight.
Drinking knight seems a fitting knight name for
me.
Thank you both for your insights, which has
shaped my part of...
which has shaped part of my thinking in
the years past.
P.S. Every knight is a drinking knight
because you don't need to drink, right?
Well, there's a slogan.
Thank you.

(02:13:50):
What?
Every knight's a drinking knight because you don't
need to drink, right?
There you go.
Yeah, that's true.
That's it.
There you go.
He says you need to drink.
Oh.
You need to drink, okay.
But I like the other one.
It's a non-sequitur.
Yes, it's good.
I think we'll make that a theme.

(02:14:11):
Bruise Bitcoin.
Bruise Bitcoin.
This is a Bitcoin donation that actually has
numbers involved.
This is like $500.
It works!
It works!
Finally, after six months, we got somebody who's
got some Bitcoins sitting around.
Hi, fellas.
A true Gen Xer saying ITM to a
couple of boomers.

(02:14:32):
My thoughts and prayers to Adam for his
missing the Gen X cutoff.
Yes, thank you.
I feel bad about it.
That's an interesting thing to say.
I have been a loyal listener since 2022,
and Dame Jennifer of Charleston punched me in
the mouth when we hosted Texas Slim for
a joint Bitcoin no agenda beef initiative party.

(02:14:57):
I was impressed by...
What?
It was a humdinger.
Let me write that.
Really?
You're writing that down?
Yeah, I need to use that word in
one of the upcoming show mixes.
Humdinger.
I was impressed by her executive art director

(02:15:20):
title and wanted to know more.
Today I donated $500 in Bitcoin via Strike
for the Secretary General title of which I'd
like to be named Secretary General of Bitcoin.
There you go.
Below is my Strike transaction ID, and he's
got an ID there.
Let me know how to get my SecGenCert.

(02:15:42):
You go to NoAgendaRings.com, and it'll be
a tab at the top.
A tab.
NoAgendaRings.com tab.
And you'll get it probably in a couple
of weeks.
JCD, it's time to buy some Bitcoin.
It seems like a high.
It's high.
In case it catches on.
Oh, I see.
He's being funny.
As a tech writer, I look forward to

(02:16:03):
your PCMag column in the early 80s.
I think that would make sense to you.
Here's to no exit plan.
Huzzah.
Thanks for all you do.
Jingle.
Gotta get a Bitcoin.
Bruise Bitcoin.
They're saying that all hell is gonna break
loose and you're gonna need a Bitcoin.

(02:16:23):
All right.
Thank you, Bruise and Bitcoin.
And so we move to Susan and Joe
from Wexford, Connecticut.
And they sent in a note and it's
on a card.
It's 333.33. Dear Adam and John, you
two are great.
My husband and I started listening in 2022
after hearing Adam on the Glenn Beck podcast.

(02:16:46):
Beck donation.
Wow, finally somebody.
I think we've had some Beck donations before.
I don't know.
I think so.
It took a little while, but we are
now pretty addicted to the show.
I think new listeners have to get through
these stages.
One, listen, but stop at first donation segment.

(02:17:07):
Quote, that was informative and funny.
But what's all this crazy stuff about knights,
dames, and douchebags?
Two.
Yes, we have our own language.
Two, listen to the whole show, but skip
the donation segments.
Why would I want to hear all those

(02:17:28):
names?
Names.
Three, listen to entire podcasts and enjoy donation
segments.
Quote, wow.
This is the stages you go through.
Yeah, this is the stages of no agenda.
The stages you listen to everything.
Wow, those notes have good info, and we
like knowing our fellow listeners.
We listen together sharing a set of earbuds.

(02:17:49):
While we walk a five-mile loop around
a local lake.
One lap is half an episode.
How about that?
We punch several family members in the mouth,
and when we are all together, non-listeners
probably feel left out by all of our
references to the show.
Yes, when you call your cousin a douchebag.
That's how it works.
Thanks for all you do.

(02:18:10):
Here's to at least four more years.
Susan and Joe from Wexford, Pennsylvania.
Thank you very much.
That is a good point.
We should bring that up on the next
Best Of show.
That's a very good note too.
Three stages of no agenda.
Absolutely.
And I like the fact that she's first
put off by the singular language used within

(02:18:31):
the show and then mentions that she punched
somebody in the mouth.
Even though it's hit, but we'll take it.
Was she him?
Yeah.
Janet Giles, Giles, Giles, G-I-L-L
-E-S in San Marcos, Texas, 333.
I'd love to be Secretary General of Returning
Factory Jobs to Farms.

(02:18:52):
She's in San Marcos.
You're short a bit there for the Secretary
of Generalship.
But I think she donated before.
I don't know.
Maybe there's something else.
We'll look into it.
Yes.
Crystal McCutcheon.
Is that it?
Crystal McCutcheon.
She's in Beaverton, Ontario, Canada.

(02:19:12):
Is this 210 Canadian buckaroos or is this
210 dollars?
That would be dollars because that's what comes
through in the spreadsheet.
James...
That could be up enough.
I think it might be.
Okay.
James...
So she'd be an executive producer.
Alright.
I will mark her as such.
Done.

(02:19:33):
Jamesandcoapparel.com an apparel company with an agenda.
What is this?
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your faith.
Wow.
This is just an ad.
How about Hi, John and Adam.
We love the show.
No.

(02:19:54):
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Have a wonderful week.

(02:20:14):
Warmly, Crystal.
Well, Crystal, next time a little less heavy
on the Jamesandcoapparel.com Otherwise, thank you very
much.
I will check it out.
Matthew Martell in Broomall, Pennsylvania, 21060.
Quantum computing is just around the corner.
We just need a little bit more cash.

(02:20:36):
Visit Martell hardware.com Use coupon code PearUrsula
for an additional 10% off your order.
I like to hear JCD's hot pockets.
Oh, I'm sorry.
For some reason, I didn't get the hot
pockets.

(02:20:57):
See, that's how you do it.
Yeah, that's how you do it.
You slip it in.
It's like if you listen to some podcasts
where they have gold as the sponsor.
Watch the seamless transition the podcaster makes to
the talking about buying gold.
That's exactly it.
That's how you gotta do it.
Was there any more to that note?

(02:21:18):
No, just hot pockets.
Hot pockets.
By the way, I like Jamesandcoapparel.com.
I might buy something from you.
Buy some Martell hardware.com while you're at
it.
Then we have our next note from Anonymous
in Bellingham, Washington.
$200.20 $200.20 Comment.

(02:21:42):
Coffee, not cash.
CC only.
Oh, John, I was disappointed that when told
you could not buy the bag of coffee
with a $20 bill, you whipped out the
credit card.
At your age, you should know better than
to kowtow to the credit card only.
I'm sure cash is still legal.
When confronted with the option of CC only,

(02:22:03):
I leave my purchase on the counter and
walk out the door.
Protesting by walking away makes a statement.
I hope to hear that when you do
decide to leave the house again, you feel
embarrassed, oh no, emboldened to walk away from
businesses that don't reflect your standards.
I still love the show, listen every week,

(02:22:25):
and think you two are very funny, especially
John.
Have a great day.
Well, she told you.
Yeah.
Yeah, she's referring there to the Philz Coffee
experience I had.
Yes.
Where I went to Philz Coffee.
Yes.
And it turns out they don't take cash,
which I think is illegal in Berkeley, and

(02:22:46):
I called them out on it.
Yes, rightly so.
And of course, the cashier, what does she
know?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I haven't got a cash register.
I couldn't give you change.
All right.
Last on our list is Linda Lou Patkins.
She comes up from Lakewood, Colorado with $200

(02:23:08):
and asks for Jobs Karma and tells us
for a competitive edge with a resume that
gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all
your executive resume and job search needs.
That's ImageMakersInc.com with a K and work
with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs, and writer
of winning resumes.
And I want to say this, she's been
working with Brennan.
Yes.
And Brennan tells me some of this.

(02:23:30):
One of the things she does, and every
time he brings up one of these anecdotes,
she is, I'm thinking about it, she is
a terrific coach on what to say to
people, how to say it, when to say
it, and how to say it.
You mean like she goes with you through
the interview process?

(02:23:50):
No, she was telling him when you do
this, do that, do that, and every one
of these tips or because I was listening
to him because I have my own thoughts
on a lot of this stuff myself, you
know.
Donate 200 bucks, we'll listen to them.
Donate 200 bucks.
It's like, I was thinking, that is a

(02:24:12):
terrific, every one of them he brought up
was, I had to respond with, that's a
terrific idea.
So she's not a slouch.
And we all decided, a little group of
us, that what it is is she's been
doing this for so long that she knows
all the tricks and traps.
Yeah.
So she sets you up.
I would recommend her in this situation.

(02:24:34):
And he mentioned that she's thankful when we
talk about her.
Well, if she's that good, she deserves it.
We love products that we love, we'll talk
about.
No extra charge.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Now send me some more cans.

(02:24:57):
Send me some more cans.
Hey, he didn't come in today, did he?
No, he didn't, because he's going broke.
You know what it costs to send those
cans in the post?
It's just like 50 bucks to send a
couple of cans.
I love the cans.
Just find some other way of getting them.
Make your own damn cold brew.

(02:25:17):
Wow.
Send a letter to John.
He's mean to me.
Condescending and mean.
Thank you very much to our Executive and
Associate Executive Producers.
The titles are yours, and they're official.
You can put them on imdb.com, put
them on your resume, put them in your
LinkedIn profile, everywhere.
And if anyone has any questions, we'll be

(02:25:38):
happy to vouch for you, no problem at
all.
We'll be thanking the rest of our supporters.
$50 and above in our second segment.
Thank you so much for supporting the No
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Value for value.
Any amount, whatever you feel is appropriate.
Go to noagendadonations.com.
Congratulations to our super producers.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the

(02:25:59):
mouth.
A lot of noise.
I got a speed report, Ashland speed report.
Speed report.
Yes, you win?

(02:26:19):
Well, unfortunately, sad news, Ashland was in a
car accident in her street car, and she
had two concussions.
For her safety and health, Ashland will not
be participating in the final race of the
season, but there is good news to all
the No Agenda slaves.
Ashland will still be in Georgia for the
season-ending race.

(02:26:40):
She'll be signing autographs and seeing the sights.
Go see her and some amazing racing actions.
There'll be action on the track Thursday, Friday,
at the 10-hour race on Saturday.
The track is one of the best in
the world.
Go see her and all the action at
Road Atlanta.
Check out her merch store, all her socials.
P.S., she was going to finish in
the top 20, which is a big deal

(02:27:01):
in this series.
Very competitive, and our producer here tried to
help with some sponsors.
Unfortunately, the line of work I'm in don't
really need to advertise.
Anyway, we are a big fan of Ashland
Speed, and we think the next season will
be her season.
And if you're out there and you want
to support her, get on the No Agenda
car.
We're on that car.
Very small sticker, but we're on the car.

(02:27:24):
We love Ashland.
She's going to be a big name in
racing one day.
Big name.
I think so.
As long as she stays off the streets.
She still is a woman driver.
We have to remember that.
Whoa!
There it is.
I got a note from Cynthia, by the
way.
We were talking about the front license plate

(02:27:44):
in Texas that Tina got pulled over because
she doesn't have a plate on the front,
and we're a two-plate state.
Somebody wanted to say hi.
Yes, exactly.
Well, we got a note from Cynthia.
She's the chief strategy officer for Hometown Hero
in Austin, and she says as a result,
I manage all of our lobbying teams, state

(02:28:05):
and federal.
So she's in the lobbying game.
She knows what's going on.
Florida does not require a front license plate.
When I moved here to Austin three years
ago, I purchased a new car, and as
you noted, some new cars do not have
a good place for a front license plate.
The grill is beautiful, and even the salesman
at the dealership said he hoped I didn't
ruin it with a license plate.
I asked one of our lobbyists, so this

(02:28:27):
is deep, good information, if we could do
a side project and get rid of the
front license plate requirement.
Now that's a no-agenda producer right there.
He explained that it has been tried many,
many times, and every time it gets introduced
into the legislature, which meets every other year,
3M goes into action.

(02:28:50):
3M, you see, makes the paint that the
license plates are coated with, and having only
one plate would mean they sell Texas half
the amount of paint.
And now you know why we have this
silly two-plate requirement.
Well, how messed up is that?
That's a good one.

(02:29:10):
Yeah, I know.
That's the way it works.
I know, you know, what we need to
do is call him out on the floor.
Oh, you don't, you want this license plate
just to give 3M some money, you shill?
That's what we need to hear.
Maybe I can find someone to do that.
So I got three clips that are very
interesting, and these were supplied by Steve Jones.

(02:29:34):
These are the NPR Morning Edition clips.
It's something that I didn't know about until
I listened to these clips, and this is
the Supreme Court cases that are being discussed,
and one of them is quite fascinating.
Supreme Court justices will hear arguments today about
the government's ability to regulate what is known

(02:29:54):
as conversion therapy.
It's a case that pits conservative Christian groups
against major medical organizations and advocates for the
LGBTQ community.
NPR legal affairs correspondent Nina Totenberg has this
report.
Conversion therapy is generally defined as the treatment
used to cure a person's attraction to the
same sex.
In other words, to make a gay person

(02:30:15):
straight, and to cure a person's desire to
change their gender identity by making them comfortable
with their gender at birth.
Every major medical organization, from the American Medical
Association to the American Psychological Association, has repudiated
the practice, finding that it doesn't work, and

(02:30:36):
instead leads to deep depression and suicidal thoughts
in minors.
As a result of these findings, half the
states have banned the practice for those under
the age of 18.
Jessica Ritter is one of many former conversion
therapy patients who now opposes the treatment.
Raised in a devout Christian family, she says
her first kiss was from another girl, and

(02:30:58):
she was devastated when the relationship quickly ended,
believing she would go to hell.
So devastated that she eagerly embraced conversion therapy.
You're broken, and then you're doing all the
things that they're telling you to do, and
it's not working.
It just broke me down.
It took her years to recover, she says.

(02:31:19):
Oh yeah, this is a very big topic
in the church circles right now.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm sure it is.
Something that's come and gone, but they have
an issue with it because the courts and
the whole society has an issue.
Calling it conversion therapy is the problem right

(02:31:40):
there.
Well, that's what it was called, and still
is.
But the problem they have now is that
they're using conversion therapy, as it were, to
convert kids into being trans in schools.
Yes, and that's okay.
Yeah, that's the problem.
Is it okay here, but it's not okay

(02:32:01):
there?
I mean, what are you doing here?
So, it is three parts of this part
two.
The Alliance Defending Freedom, however, cites other teens
who it says have been saved by conversion
therapy.
The conservative Christian legal group is challenging the
ban on conversion therapy, contending that it violates

(02:32:21):
the therapist's right to free speech in talk
therapy.
The plaintiff in the case is Kaylee Childs,
a licensed therapist in Colorado.
I want to be able to operate genuinely
and create therapeutic relationships that are not hindered
by the values and position of our state,
and that's what my clients want as well,
and currently, I'm having to turn them away.

(02:32:44):
Representing Childs, lawyer James Campbell will tell the
Supreme Court today that what Childs does is
purely talk therapy, and thus that it's protected
by the Constitution's free speech guarantee.
The state can determine who is qualified to
be a licensed counselor.
It can determine that they have the right
education, that they have sufficient experience, but what

(02:33:06):
the states can't do is come in and
say, you can have a conversation about a
topic, but not if you're going to talk
about it from this perspective.
It's just blatant viewpoint discrimination.
Colorado Attorney General Philip Weiser counters that the
state law is in fact narrow.
It applies only to treatment of minors, and
it allows anyone of any age to seek

(02:33:29):
counseling from religious organizations without being subject to
state licensing laws.
But, he notes, states are entitled to require
licensed therapists and other medical professionals to abide
by the established standard of medical care.
Oh, this is the Conversion Wars.
The Great Conversion Wars.
Wait.

(02:33:51):
Title's too long.
The Great Conversion Wars of 2025.
You need that in there.
Yes, very important part.
Alright, let's wrap it up.
Each side in this debate has to deal
with an embarrassing fact.
Briefs filed by those endorsing conversion therapy rely

(02:34:12):
heavily on the Cass Review, commissioned by the
British National Health Service, which last year found
insufficient evidence to justify transgender-affirming care for
minors.
But the Cass Review reached a very different
conclusion when it came to conversion therapy, condemning
it as unsupported by science and not an

(02:34:34):
improved treatment.
As for Colorado's position, its opponents note that
major medical associations have not always been right.
Indeed, the American Psychiatric Association actually listed homosexuality
as a mental disorder until 1973.
Attorney General Weiser replies that medical science evolves

(02:34:56):
over time.
There were times when we didn't know that
smoking cigarettes caused cancer.
But now that we know it does, it's
wrong for a doctor to tell people to
smoke cigarettes three packs a day and tell
them, don't worry about the health effects.
That would be substandard care, just like conversion
practices are substandard care.

(02:35:17):
A decision in the case is expected by
summer.
Yeah, no, this is the big one.
Yeah, keep them busy.
I have some legal news, and this was
a gigantic cover-up, really, by 60 Minutes,
about the vaccine court.

(02:35:38):
Not a lot of people know about the
vaccine court.
I think we've discussed it, but there is
a...
I'm sorry?
Yeah.
I was going to say, I watched this.
I didn't take any clips from it because
I could have.
I'm glad you did.
Well, Clip Custodian did it, so I'll be
honest about that.
Well, the point is, is when I watched
it, it seemed like they were trying to

(02:36:00):
portray, give a message about the vaccines being
great.
But they kept...
But the examples they used were people that
were severely injured, obviously, by vaccines.
Yes, and I think the message was a
little different as I listened to the clips.
I did not see the actual 60 Minute
piece.
Oh, you had to...
Well, you probably...

(02:36:21):
It's disturbing, to put it that way.
It's very disturbing, yes.
Here's the intro.
If you've never before heard of the National
Vaccine Court, you're hardly alone.
It sits inconspicuously a few hundred yards from
the White House and stands as a model
of effective public policy, balancing the societal good
of widespread vaccination with rare individual harm.

(02:36:41):
Founded in the 1980s, the court has, with
little fanfare, paid out billions of dollars to
Americans who have claimed injury after getting a
vaccine.
But it's rare.
Today, with vaccine skepticism rising and given voice
in the highest ranks of government, we wondered,
can this singular court block out the noise,
withstand the political winds, and stay true to

(02:37:02):
its mission?
So I'm going to skip over the horrible
child who, right after six months, got his
you know, his dose of multiple vaccines and
immediately couldn't talk and just horrible.
I'm going to skip over that and go
to Attorney Renee Gentry.
Attorney Renee Gentry.
That's circumstantial evidence because it's not direct evidence.

(02:37:25):
She's a leading vaccine injury litigator and director
of the Vaccine Injury Litigation Clinic at George
Washington University Law School in Washington, D.C.
By the way, I think the lawyers had
the problem here.
Perfect.
I represent both vaccine-injured children and adults.
All of my clients are vaccinated.
Most of them will start the conversation by
saying, I'm not anti-vax.

(02:37:46):
Why do you think they need to tell
you right off the bat they're not anti
-vax, but?
There's a lot of public pressure when you
say that you have a vaccine injury that
people think you're some kind of a crazy
person or you're out there.
And also because most people have never heard
of a vaccine injury.
They're rare.
So rare that while hard to quantify precisely,
the chances of serious vaccine injury have been

(02:38:07):
likened to lottery odds, lightning strikes.
Bear in mind, in total, global immunization has
saved an estimated 154 million lives, six lives
each minute.
What was that term?
Labriad?
I didn't hear it clearly.
Labriad.
I'll have to look it up.
Labriad, which is the chance of being struck

(02:38:30):
by lightning.
Sure.
So here's the details on the vaccine court.
But when an injury does occur, families can
come to vaccine court, seen in this informational
video.
Part of the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program,
the court was established in response to a
public health scare in the 1980s.
The health of millions of children may be
at stake because...

(02:38:50):
When families of injured children went to civil
court and successfully sued the manufacturers of the
DTP vaccine, an older version of DTaP, it
caused all but one of those drug companies
to pull out of the market, resulting in
vaccine shortages.
Congress acted, crafting a bipartisan bill that partially
shielded drug manufacturers from liability so they would

(02:39:12):
continue to develop life-saving...
Hold on.
Partially?
Partially?
What do you mean partially?
I don't believe that to be true.
I don't think that's true either.
continue to develop life...
I think what they might be referring to
is that if there is something egregious or

(02:39:36):
they're sending vials of salt water or something,
there may be some out.
So you could actually use that term.
But the reason they say it there, of
course, is to soften it.
Because this report is slanted.
No kidding.

(02:39:59):
continue to develop life-saving vaccines.
And at the same time, Congress acknowledged that
vaccines can cause injury.
As bill sponsor Senator Ted Kennedy described, when
children are quote, the victims of an appropriate
and rational national policy, a compassionate government will
assist them in their hour of need.
So the vaccine manufacturers are completely covered in

(02:40:23):
this court because it is a no-fault
court.
It was hailed as such a unique accomplishment
back in the day because you had these
disparate groups.
You had the parents of vaccine-injured children
together in the room with the manufacturers.
And everybody agreed that this was the best
case scenario.
Is that fair to the public?
They think they have an injury caused by

(02:40:43):
a vaccine, but they can't sue the vaccine
manufacturer directly.
You can still opt out of this program
and sue a manufacturer.
You have to just start in this program.
But it's a lower burden of proof in
our program, so it's an easier thing for
vaccine-injured people to get compensation.
Drug companies are not only not being sued,
they're not part of the proceedings.

(02:41:03):
Vaccine court is a no-fault court, meaning
in cases like Jacob Thompson's, negligence does not
need to be proven, just that the vaccine
more likely than not caused the injury.
This is a disgrace.
So what this lawyer is doing is she's
saying, well, you know, you can either get
some money or you can opt out of

(02:41:26):
getting any money whatsoever then go and sue
them on your own good luck.
That's not okay.
And in fact, well, the question of course
is, I don't know if it's in this
one, where the money comes from.
The vaccine court is not your typical court.
There's no jury.
Cases are decided in front of one of

(02:41:46):
eight judges called special masters.
Since the program began in the late 80s,
12,000 Americans have received almost $5 billion
in payouts.
There are no financial windfalls for lawyers.
Isn't 12,000 a big number?
I think it's a big number, yeah.
Well, then how can you say rare, rare,
rare throughout this report?

(02:42:11):
Who's the advertiser?
I don't know.
I mean, come on.
We all know where this is coming from.
There are no financial windfalls for lawyers.
The court pays them by the hour.
Where does all this money come from?
A 75 cent tax imposed on recommended childhood
vaccines goes into a trust fund earmarked for
vaccine injury compensation.

(02:42:31):
What a scam.
This is unbelievable.
Hey, guys, look, we're going to fix this.
All these poor kids, you know, anyone who's
you know, don't worry.
Just give us 75 cents for every single
vaccine, and we'll take care of it.
We'll make it all go away.
Don't worry about it.
And these lawyers, oh, there's no windfall.

(02:42:52):
Are you kidding me?
Sorry, but I think $500 to $700 an
hour is not bad, depending on how long
you're on the case.
It's still money.
Oh, there's no big windfall.
Come on.
Meaning you also don't get the top guys,
the top injury guys.
3333333 4444444 you don't get those guys like

(02:43:17):
you don't get suits and boots.
For vaccine injury compensation.
In July, the Thompsons received a judgment of
$2.1 million based on the special master's
ruling that it was more probable than not
that Jacob's six month vaccinations aggravated an underlying
genetic mutation.

(02:43:37):
Jacob also received a lifetime annuity to cover
his future care.
Is there any doubt that the vaccine caused
Jacob's injury?
We can't ever prove scientific certainty on it.
Does that not mean, though, that some cases
are being compensated when in fact...
Sure, and that's what Congress intended.
There's very clear indication that it would be

(02:43:57):
better to compensate somebody that wasn't injured than
to miss somebody who was.
How do you feel about that?
I think that's fine.
While vaccines are critically important public health tools,
they're not magic.
You know, you can have an allergic reaction
to aspirin, so it's a lot of different
factors come into play to have a person
be injured by a vaccine.
Their genetics, their immune system, that's why the
no-fault part is critical.

(02:44:18):
The vaccine caused it, but there's no bad
actor in this case.
This is your lawyer speaking!
This is like the lawyer in Idiocracy.
Oh yeah, well they said you're guilty.
Here's the kicker.
The program is structured around a vaccine injury
table, basically a conversion chart of vaccines and

(02:44:39):
eligible injuries.
If your child, for instance, got a rubella
vaccine and developed chronic arthritis, within 7 and
42 days, you may be eligible for damages.
The most common compensation is for shoulder injuries
suffered from a misplaced injection.
You can file for an injury not on
the table.
Overall, half of all claims have been dismissed.

(02:45:02):
Today, vaccines on the table have jumped from
the original 6 to 16, including the annual
flu shot, though notably not COVID.
As for the eligible injuries, autism is not
one of them.
That decision did not come easily, as retired
special masters Denise Fowle and George Hastings explained.

(02:45:22):
There's been a lot of talk lately about
a possible link between vaccines and autism.
This has been litigated and decided in your
court 15 years ago.
You know, I spent many, many years of
my life, almost full time, looking at that
issue.
Now, I don't have to play the rest
of the clips, but of course, no, no,

(02:45:43):
all the special masters said no, no, all
the science shows.
Now science...
The COVID shot, one of the worst shots
ever, off the list.
I don't care what happened to you, too
bad.
Because it wasn't actually a vaccine, you see.

(02:46:04):
Yes, but it's still covered as still indemnified.
Yes, I know.
It is a scam.
It's a scam.
It's a very unfortunate scam.
Very unfortunate.
Okay.
Yes.
We're almost done.
Let me just play these two.

(02:46:24):
I got two of the firebug clips.
Oh, yeah, this is great.
This is great.
This is Newsom's Inferno.
Yeah, Newsom's is a good name.
We used it before.
Yes.
Oh, we have?
Yes, we have.
But I won't say anything about you, because
I don't want any bad letters.
No, because you're a horrible person.

(02:46:44):
Federal and local officials announced a major breakthrough
today in the investigation into January's Palisades fire
in California.
After eight months of intensive work, authorities confirmed
the arrest of a suspect in connection with
the blaze.
NTD's Christina Corona has more on the story.
A 29-year-old Jonathan Rindernecht for igniting

(02:47:05):
a fire that ultimately burned down the Palisades
earlier this year, killing 12 people, destroying more
than 6,800 structures, both homes and businesses,
and damaging over 1,000 more buildings.
Rindernecht is accused of intentionally starting a fire
along a hiking trail just after midnight on
January 1st.

(02:47:26):
Officials say he had returned to Pacific Palisades
after working an evening shift as an Uber
driver on New Year's Eve.
Two of his passengers told law enforcement that
he appeared agitated and angry that night.
After dropping off a passenger in Pacific Palisades,
Rindernecht parked his car and tried and failed
to contact a former friend.

(02:47:47):
Prosecutors say he walked up a trail, recorded
videos, and listened to a rap song featuring
fire scenes before allegedly setting the fire.
Sensors detected the Lockman fire at 12.12
a.m. on January 1st.
Officials say he fled the scene in his
car, but later turned around after passing fire
engines.
The defendant walked up the same trail from

(02:48:08):
earlier that night to watch the fire and
firefighters, using his iPhone to take short videos
of the scene.
Although firefighters initially extinguished the fire, strong winds
on January 7th are believed to have caused
it to reignite.
Officials say the allegations are supported by his
phone data, false statements, and chat GPT generated

(02:48:29):
images depicting a burning city.
The allegations in the affidavit are supported by
digital evidence, including the defendant's chat GPT prompt
of a dystopian painting showing in part a
burning forest and a crowd fleeing from it.
I find this interesting, this part, because it's

(02:48:50):
not the image, it's his prompt.
That's the digital evidence, is he was so
hell-bent on seeing this fire.
He's a firebug.
I wonder, was he on any antidepressants or
any pharmacological substances?
Probably not.
Officials say Rindernek generated the images months before

(02:49:10):
the fire broke out.
Saley said Rindernek lied about his location to
the police, but cell phone data put him
near the scene of the crime.
Investigators say he lived in the Palisades and
was very familiar with the area.
He was arrested near his Florida home and
is expected to appear in federal court in
Orlando Wednesday.
If convicted, he faces a mandatory minimum of

(02:49:31):
five years and up to 20 years in
federal prison.
Wow.
Digital evidence is everywhere, people.
I don't understand why he only would get
such a light sentence.
People died.
It's manslaughter.
Manslaughter, yeah.
You only go away for a long time
if you...

(02:49:51):
The kicker is, which is not on NTD,
but if you watch the right-wing news,
the kicker is that everyone blamed it on
climate change and the kid was a Biden
donor and a Democrat.
Beautiful.
Doesn't get much better than that.

(02:50:23):
We are excited to welcome a couple of
secretary generals.
We'll get to those in a minute.
We do have a night and much more
to come, including John's tip of the day.
What a doozy it was, the last one
you did.
People really, really loved your wine tip.
They were sending me pictures from all around
the country.
Yes, it's at HEB.

(02:50:44):
I got John's wine.
Look, my wife came home with 15 bottles.
It's fantastic.
But first, John is going to thank our
supporters, Value for Value, $50 and above.
Game Rita tops it off.
She's back from Sparks, Nevada.
$110.09. Let's follow it quickly because we
have a very short list here, it turns

(02:51:05):
out.
Kevin McLaughlin's already there.
It's 8-0-0-8.
He's the Archduke of Luna.
Lover of America and lover of boobs.
Stephen Hutto in St. Petersburg, Florida, 75.
Blair in Austin, Texas, 73, 64.
He wants some karma.

(02:51:25):
Can you give them at the end?
I can.
Gwen Sobieski in Kettering, Ohio, 67.
He's a de-douching.
Oh, we got that.
You've been de-douched.
David Cox in Austin, Texas.

(02:51:49):
Teresa Andrews in Camarillo, California, 61-61.
Grayson Insurance.
Grayson Insurance in Aurora, Colorado, 6-0-0
-6.
Jason Sheppard in Trinidad, Colorado, 6-0-0
-6.
Interesting.
Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 6-0-0
-6.
It's small boobs day.

(02:52:11):
Lydia Terry Dominelli in Rochester, New Hampshire, 59.
Gordon Myers in Dripping Springs.
Right down the road.
54-30.
Soon to be West Austin.
It already is.
Alex Salazar Salazar, yes.

(02:52:34):
52-72.
Miriam Marshall, 52-72.
These are actually $50 donors with the extra
fees, which would only be 40 cents if
it was a check.
Brittany Miller in Trinidad, Colorado, 52-72.
Timothy White in Elburn, Illinois, 2-72.
Jill Presnell in Wichita, 52-72.

(02:52:59):
And she says happy 18 years.
Thank you.
Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa, 51.
And there's our boys in Bad Idea Supply.
Check them out on the website, Bad Idea
Supply.
They make all kinds of stuff you can
burn stuff with.
50-50.
And now we got the $50 donors.
Just name and location.

(02:53:22):
Starting with Sir Chris in Box Springs, Georgia.
Jacob Rattramal Rattramal in Decatur, Illinois.
Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington.
Edward Mazurk in Memphis.
Ray Howard in Kremlin, Colorado.

(02:53:44):
René Knig in Utrecht.
Knig in Utrecht.
I'm not allowed to correct you.
I'm not allowed to correct you anymore.
People are sending me nasty, nasty grants.
Well, it's because you're Spanish.
Roderick Brown in Mermaid, Prince Edward Island, Canada.

(02:54:08):
There you go.
I get that one right once in a
while.
Harm Veenstra in was that Borny?
Born?
Burned?
Bernie?
It's in, let me see.
Borna.

(02:54:29):
Borna.
Borna.
50s is drink more coffee.
Brad just plain old Brad in Uvalde, Texas.
Yes.
Great segment on Israel, he writes.
Especially the find on PBS.

(02:54:50):
I forget what that was.
Jason Daluzio, our buddy in Miami Beach.
And last on the list is Harry Klan
in Aledo, Texas.
And that's our group of well-wisher supporters
and producers for show.
1806.
Yes.
Moving towards 18 years on the 26th of

(02:55:10):
October.
Thank you all very much.
And here's the karma as requested.
You've got karma.
Support the No Agenda show.
Support your independent media deconstruction.
Probably the only media deconstruction, not just the
independent of any kind whatsoever.
Go to noagendadonations.com and hook us up.

(02:55:31):
Send some value back.
Whatever you got out of the show, send
it to us.
If you want to set up a recurring
donation, that, of course, is more than welcome.
Any amount, any frequency, and you can always
become an associate executive producer or executive producer.
Noagendadonations.com It's your birthday, birthday of No
Agenda Sir Kyle of Bertram and the Three

(02:55:52):
Donkeys turned 58 yesterday.
Happy birthday.
Brittany Miller wishes her smoking hot husband Jason
Shepard a happy one.
He turns 49 on the 11th.
And Dame Mindy turns 52 on October 13th.
We celebrate your birthdays together.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best
podcast in the universe.
And now it's time for not one but

(02:56:14):
two secretaries generals.
All hail to the secretaries generals cause they
are the ones who need hailing.
All hail to the secretaries generals on the
No Agenda show.
Thank you very much, gentlemen, for correcting the
jingle.
It almost sounds perfect.

(02:56:34):
We welcome the brand new secretaries general, secretary
general of the gins of the world and
the secretary general of Bitcoin.
It was bound to happen.
All hail to the secretaries generals.
All hail to the secretaries generals cause they
are the ones who need hailing.

(02:56:55):
All hail to the secretaries generals on the
No Agenda show.
Ho!
And we have one knight to welcome him
to the round table, the No Agenda knights
and dames.
If you don't mind grabbing your blade there,
get out of here.
Here we go.
Come on, Daniel.
Congratulations, sir.
Thanks to your support of the No Agenda

(02:57:17):
show and the amount of $1,000 or
more, I'm very proud to pronounce the K
.D. as Sir Drinking Knight.
That's right.
And the Sir Drinking Knight has his choice
here at the round table of Hookers and
Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Kitos and Tequila,
Fish Pie and Falacio, Harless and Haldol.
We've got Redheads and Rise.
We have Cowgirls and Coffin Barnets, Rubenes, Women

(02:57:39):
in Rosé, Geishas and Sake, Vodka and Vanilla,
Bong Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Tide and Esports,
Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Breast Milk and Pablum.
But as always, we know what you really
want.
You want the button in me.
Go to noagenderings.com.
That is the same for the Secretaries General.
You click on the Secretaries General tab.
You, sir, brand new Knight of the No

(02:58:00):
Agenda round table.
Go to noagenderings.com.
Take a look at that handsome signet ring.
It comes with wax to seal your important
correspondence along with a certificate of authenticity.
Just let us know where to send it,
along with your ring size, please.
And welcome to the No Agenda round table
of Knights and Danes.
The No Agenda Meetup.

(02:58:23):
Yeah, it's all coming up.
Coming up this weekend.
First of all, we have the Thirsty Thursday
at Dakota Tavern Meetup.
That's at Dakota Tavern in Parker, Colorado.
That's on Thursday.
Then on Friday, we have the Night Before
the Storm at 6.30 at Pecan Street
Brewing in Johnson City, Texas.
Your friend, Dirty Jersey Whore, will be organizing
that, followed by, and I'm the third semi

(02:58:48):
-annual Fredericksburg Meetup on October 11th.
That's Saturday, 3.33 at 1776 Bar in
Full Moon Inn in Bed and Breakfast.
That is J6 or Jenny's place.
That'll be in Fredericksburg.
Fredericksburg, Matt is the organizer.
He won't be there.
His wife will be there.
He has to go visit a friend in
Seattle, but I'll be there.

(02:59:08):
Tina the Keeper will be there, and a
plethora of No Agenda celebrities and royalty will
be there.
Also on Saturday, the Treasure Valley Boise Meetup,
3 o'clock at Burt Brewery in Garden
City, Idaho.
And those are just a few of the
meetups you can attend.
Go to noagendameetups.com.
You can see the full spectrum, the full
calendar.

(02:59:29):
They're happening around the world, and we love
it when you include your server in the
meetup report.
We'd love some more meetup reports, and as
always, if you can't find one near you,
start one yourself.
It's easy.
noagendameetups.com.
Sometimes you want to go hang out with
all the nights and days You want to
be where you won't be Triggered or held

(02:59:51):
to blame You want to be where everybody
feels the same It's like a party John's
tip of the day is coming up.
You can stay tuned for that.
At this point in the show though, we
always like to determine what we're going to
play as the end of show ISO as
it's known and I have one John sent

(03:00:14):
a bonus clip earlier this morning which turned
out to be a bonus ISO also known
as a BISO So I will play mine,
and then I can't wait to hear yours,
particularly because it includes that bonus ISO.
Here's the one I have for you.
Okay, cool.
High five.
Over.
Done.
Which is a real one.
It's not generated by AI.
What do you have?
It was like AI.

(03:00:35):
It was not AI.
Okay, well here's a real one.
ISO Bloof.
From the ground soaked with our children's blood.
Okay.
Bloof.
How's that for an end of show?
Yeah, okay.
That's alright.
And this is the bonus one.
It's long.
It's a little long.
It's a little long, but it's good.

(03:00:56):
Podcasting is hard.
Very hard.
Hard, hard, hard.
Oh, it's a little bit of a letdown.
Well, it was what I had.
You spent all morning putting that together.
I didn't spend all morning.
I did the last second.
I said maybe he won't go for the
children's blood one, which I thought was a

(03:01:18):
good one.
From the ground soaked with our children's blood.
I'm going to take that one.
I'm not taking AI.
Who cares?
It's time now for Charles' tip of the
day.
Great advice from you and me.
Just the tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.

(03:01:38):
Okay, this is a good one.
Of course.
I'm going to recommend a streaming product.
Streaming product.
That you can put on your...
I put it on my LG screen.
Any smart television will be able to take
this and put it up there.
And you can also just use it on
your computer.
But I have to say I saw it

(03:02:00):
promoted and I've seen it advertised.
And I have to say it's got some...
It's not bad.
And it's something I think people should consider
using because on it, on the streaming service,
there's just under a hundred local TV newscasts
from news junkies from all over the country.

(03:02:21):
From Memphis to Seattle to San Francisco.
They're all over the place.
So if you live in some place and
you still want to see what's going on
at home, this is a place to go.
But they have over 300 channels of streaming
TV, not to mention...
Free.
Free streaming.
Yeah, it's Tubi.
T-U-B-I.
It's actually good.
Oh, Tubi.
Didn't Tubi buy or get bought by Pluto?

(03:02:45):
No, you're thinking...
No, you...
Pluto is still my go-to, man.
No, this is better than Pluto.
How does Tubi make money?
I think they have...
Somehow they make money.
I have no idea.
To be honest about it, looking at some
of their offerings, maybe they have...
Because they do play a lot of repurposed

(03:03:06):
movies.
Their collection of movies is just as good
as Amazon's.
Do they have ads?
Old junk movies.
If you want old crap movies, they're all
on Tubi.
So get your cheap wine from Costco and
watch some old crap movies on Tubi.
You're taking us down the Tubis, Dvorak.
Check them all out at tipoftheday.net, John's

(03:03:27):
Tip of the Day.
Well, that's perfect.
Just watch your old crappy Tubi movies for
the next couple of days.
You can watch the newscasts, too.
There's lots of them.
They also have the CBC International stuff.

(03:03:48):
They have Euronews on there.
It's a good product.
It's not outstanding, but it's good.
Good is all I care.
We've got end-of-show mixes coming up
from Sir Scovey, Earl of the Piedmont.
We've got our very own Clip Custodian, Neil
Jones, with a brand new one.
And Professor Jay Jones, no relation.

(03:04:09):
Those are all coming up to send you
out into the weekend as Friday and Saturday
and Sunday we'll be back with another No
Agenda show.
And right after these end-of-show mixes,
if you're listening on your modern podcast app
or noagendastream.com, we have that Larry show
coming up.
Larry show.
Larry.
Anybody?
Larry.

(03:04:29):
And the title of this one is Game
Over, Narcissists!
Larry is a funny dude.
You'll like him.
And until then, I am coming to you
from the heart of the Texas Hill Country,
the site of the meetup on Saturday, Fredericksburg,
Texas, where we're done with Oktoberfest.
Thank the Lord.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

(03:04:50):
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain,
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
We'll talk to you on Sunday.
Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
Until then, adios, mofos, hui, hui, and such.
Gradually, the list of things humans can do
that machines cannot do is becoming shorter and
shorter.
Computer.

(03:05:11):
Computer.
Is it time to pull the plug on
artificial intelligence?
It's like the invention of fire.
This is kind of like the beginning of
COVID again, to be honest.
This is really at that scale, and we
should all be taking it very seriously.

(03:05:32):
Twenty years from now, how are we going
to be looking back at this very moment?
That is a great question.
Gradually, the list of things humans can do
that machines cannot do is becoming shorter and
shorter.
The talk, like a human, really can master
language.
Is it time to pull the plug on

(03:05:52):
artificial intelligence?
That is a great question.
The talk, like a human, really can master
language.
Anybody at this point with a digital footprint
can be impersonated.
Computer.
Computer.

(03:06:13):
It's like the invention of fire.
This is really at that scale, and we
should all be taking it very seriously.
Being able to talk, like a human, really
can master language.
Working.
Working.
Moments ago, Israel launched Operation Rising Line.

(03:06:42):
Rising Line.
Rising Line.
I am a wall in line.
Rising Line.
Wall in line.
Rising Line.

(03:07:02):
I'm alive!
Wall in line.
I'm alive!

(03:07:24):
I am a wall in line.
Crying out, Rise!

(03:07:46):
Rise!
Rising Line.
I'm alive!
Rising Line.
I'm alive!
Rising Line.

(03:08:09):
Rise!
I'm alive!
Rise!

(03:08:33):
Rise!
Rise!
Rise!
Rise!
Rise!
APEC person.
Has the congressman been to Israel?
They don't have a Germany dude.
I'll talk to my APEC guy and see
if I can get him to...
Is there any other Republican who has your
views on this?

(03:08:54):
Why would they want to tell their constituents,
I wish I could vote with you today.
Every member has some influence.
If I'm re-embedded in APEC, I'll talk
to my APEC person.
And they've got your cell number.
Is there any other Republican who has your

(03:09:15):
views on this?
Everybody but me has an APEC person.
It's like your babysitter, your APEC babysitter.
They don't have a Germany dude.
That's wrong what APEC is doing to you.
Let me talk to my APEC person.
Everybody but me has an APEC person.

(03:09:36):
I'll talk to my APEC guy and see
if I can get him to...

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