1811 - "NA Era" - No Agenda Show

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Well now, unfortunately, it's gone so long that
we're in gun smoke territory.
Adam Curry, John C.
DeVora.
It's Sunday, October 26, 2025, this year award
-winning Gilmore Nation media assassination episode 1811.
This is no agenda.
Turns out she's a dude, as we broadcast

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live from the heart of the Texas Hill
Country, here in FEMA Region Number 6.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And I'm from Northern Silicon Valley, where I've
determined that if you wear jeans when you're
over 50, you look like a homeless person.
I'm John C.
DeVora.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
I don't know if that's true.

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I wear jeans.
I don't look like a homeless person.
I'm over 50.
I don't agree.
I go to the Monterey Foods, where all
these old farts go.
Well, you mean the baggy saggy?
Berkeley, and they're all, these old men are
wearing jeans, and they all look like they're
homeless.
There's no reason for, wear slacks.
You're old.
You're not a kid anymore.

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You're not like, you're not running around in
the park.
What do you wear?
Corduroys?
Dockers?
What do you wear?
What do you wear?
Yeah, dockers would be similar.
Yeah, just some sort of slack.
Oh, okay.
Hey, everybody.
Today is our 18th anniversary.

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Congratulations to all the producers of the No
Agenda Show who have been with us.
Yes, join us.
Thank you to the Scream Wizardry, Avoid Zero,
Bemros, Cotton Gin, the trolls in the troll
room.
All of you are just fantastic.
And congratulations to you, to you, my partner,
for 18 years.

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Stop, stop.
Hey, it won't stop.
Why won't it stop?
Oh, there.
Stop, stop, stop.
I can't make it stop.
What is this?
Make it stop.
It's not stopping.
I think my button's broken.
I have the real one around here somewhere.
Oh, it looks like this controller is busted.

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Oh, that's interesting.
18 years.
Here's the real one.
Oh, wait.
There's something very wrong here.
Oh, no.
What is happening?
Oh, no.
It's out of control.
Hold on.
Well, I gotta reboot a whole system here.
This is bad.
That's weird.
Why?
Buttons go bad?

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Well, I don't think it was the button.
I think it might be my entire MIDI
controller finally gave up the ghost.
Let me see.
Let me see if it's okay.
It should run forever.
Well, it's mechanical.
Oh, it's mechanical.
What?
Yeah.
I mean...
The sound comes in, there's a little midget
in there going, hey, beep, beep, beep, beep,
beep, beep.
No.
What do you mean mechanical?

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The MIDI controller controls the play out system.
And the MIDI controller controls the...
I have one, two, three, four, five, six.
I have eight players because, you know, we
do a lot of clips on this show
in case you hadn't noticed.
No.
If we do a lot of clips on
this show.

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And so, you know, from time to time,
I got to load up a whole bunch
of clips, particularly if either of us has
a series.
Are they carts?
Are they mechanical?
You say it's mechanical.
Did you move them all to eight track
or...? So, you know, not far from it.
It is, in fact, a digital cart rack.
Yes, that's correct.
But you used the term digital.

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That, to me, doesn't mean mechanical.
No, but the controller has faders and physical
buttons for me to...
Oh, you have actual pots.
Yes.
Well, I call them faders.
You know, you still probably consider I have
round, huge knobs on my board.
That's what you want.
Have you ever played with those old systems

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with the giant round knobs?
I hate those systems.
They're the worst.
You've got a big...
You can fine-tune it.
I wish I could...
Those old, big, giant round knobs and a
big VU meter that's the size of a
house.
And then when you wanted to...
This is too funny.
And then when you were ready to cue

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up a record, you turned the pot all
the way to the left and there was
a little switch, a little click, and then
it would be in audition mode.
You remember that?
Oh, yeah.
I forgot about that.
But I do recall it now.
That was important.
Yeah, that's right.
In audition mode.
So you could hear it as you cued

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it up without it going over the air.
Yes, exactly.
Correct.
Correct.
That's the kind of gear that we should
have today.
You know, if I could get a board
that was still good, I'd probably have it
here.
I don't know if I'd actually use it,
but I'd probably have it.
That would be fun.
That'd be fun.
So let's take a little trip back, shall

(04:59):
we?
Just for a moment.
For a moment.
Let us go back to...
Well, what was it?
So it was October 26.
Friday, October 26, 2007.
Let's go back in time.
And this is for you children who don't

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know what 78 Records sounds like.
This is what the No Agenda show sounded
like 18 years ago.
Welcome, everybody, to a brand new program on
the Podshow Network, which could be titled a
number of things.
We chose No Agenda, but it could be
the show with no imaging, no content yet.

(05:43):
The only thing it is, is...
Some things don't change.
...guys with an idea of putting together a...
What should we call it, John?
A...
Agenda-less show.
Agenda-less show, exactly.
So your window still makes a lot of
noise.
We didn't have the noise gate back then.
I think that's your sound, is all that
noise, that white noise in the background.

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John C.
Dvorak in California, Adam Curry here in London.
Something we cooked up.
What was it?
Like a four-minute phone call.
Hey, we should do a show together.
Okay.
Let's call it No Agenda.
Okay, and here we are.
Well, of course, the basis for a show
like this, and I think everybody out there
who has conversations with friends, they occasionally, especially

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when the conversations go on and on, say,
that would have been an interesting thing for
other people to listen to.
This is when you still pretended to be
my friend.
Yeah, well, you know.
That was the era when Comic Strip Blogger
had his Yo!
Agenda show, and he kept claiming that as

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soon as one of us quit or something
happened to the podcast network or whatever, pod
show network...
Pod show network, yes.
The show would dissolve because we hated each
other.
No, because you were a jerk, according to
him.
Some things never change.
Exactly, exactly right.
He still feels the same way, but, you
know, because you won't pick his art.

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Hey, well, we picked his art just two
shows ago.
I know we did, yeah, but that was
me.
Okay.
Hey, breaking news, breaking news.
Unbelievable.
French President Emmanuel Macron's wife, Brigitte Macron, discovered
that her tax account on France's official government

(07:31):
website listed her as male under the name
Jean-Michel.
Breaking news.
Is this actually a news story or a
hoax?
This is, no, this is, this is all
over the French media.
Not France 24 yet, trust me.
I've been looking for it.
Yeah, it's great.

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That, that either, well, it's possible.
Well, I mean, they have the...
Élysée, Élysée.
Dans le bureau de la première dame.
Élysée, that's BFM TV, whatever that is.
Milk Bar TV.
That sounds reputable.
Oh yeah, Milk Bar.
I always go to them, it's my go
-to.
Milk Bar is the best.

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Oh man.
Anyway, 18 years, John.
It's the longest gig I've ever had.
How about you?
Well, now, unfortunately, it's gone so long that
we're in gun smoke territory.
Hey, horse.
And there's like maybe one or two other
podcasts that have lasted this long.

(08:39):
And so now it's historic.
People are actually listening to what will eventually
be considered an historic podcast.
You know what?
I heard someone the other day on a
podcast saying that we are creating the future
library of Alexandria in real time.

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Because the future, of course, will only be
AI search results.
We don't even, we don't know if even
if Google's going to be around in the
future because they're killing their own business model.
But, and there will be spread throughout the
digital universe, but luckily also the physical universe,
because we have so many people who made

(09:22):
CDs of the show, thanks to Ramsey, you
know, that people will pick it up and
go like, hey, what's this?
Or what is this thing I'm listening to?
Yeah, the artifacts.
Yeah, and I'm sure not everything will be
preserved, but there's so much, there's, I mean,
that's the beauty of the internet, particularly with
podcasts, MP3s, they're just everywhere.

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And they're decentralized, downloaded onto millions of phones.
Yeah, they're archived by all kinds of people.
Yeah, and all kinds of devices and everywhere.
And people go like, oh, that's interesting.
So these guys knew 50 years ago that
we never landed on the moon.
Wow, those guys were good.
How can we not have guys like that

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anymore?
Yeah, that's what it's going to be.
So one of the early staples, I'm not
going to do a retrospective show, but this
just came to mind.
Why not?
Because I didn't prepare one.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's the reason, not because you don't
want to.
No.
I do have some historical clips myself, but
it has to do with measles.
Oh, no, we'll do that.
And we kind of should do that in
just a minute.

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So one of the early things that we
were discussing, because we started just at the
end of 2007, 2008, you know, we saw
Obama coming.
And I think one of the early memes
of the show was mac and cheese.
Everyone's going to be eating mac and cheese.
And we've gone through...

(10:48):
Well, actually, this is one of our oldest
jingles.
You slaves can get used to mac and
cheese, mac and cheese.
Macaroni and cheddar melted together.
Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and
cheese.
Mac and cheese.
Hey, everybody.
And we went through an interesting history with

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mac and cheese where it became an actual
luxury item.
I think people were lined up for $18
mac and cheese.
Of course, we had the grilled cheese sandwiches
that people stood in line for.
Before we continue, across from MeVeo pod show
operation, across the street from the studio or

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whatever offices, there was a grilled cheese sandwich
shop.
Yes.
And all they sold was grilled cheese sandwiches.
And for $15.
Yeah, or something.
It was outrageous.
And we've come full circle.
Last but not least, one trend and true
brand is making a big comeback as consumers

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tighten their wallets.
And here it is, Hamburger Helper.
The mix of mac and cheese and ground
beef is seeing a surge in sales.
Harris, I grew up on the cheeseburger Hamburger
Helper and it was very good with the
extra cheese sprinkled on top.
Yum, Hamburger Helper mac and cheese.
Kaylee McEnany.
Yeah.
You know, we went to the Fredericksburg Food

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and Wine Festival Friday.
Oh, there was a festival.
Yes, it happens every year.
And we were invited to attend this year.
You can't get in unless you're invited?
What kind of a festival is that?
It costs $250 for this dinner.
That's why we've never been.
Oh, it's a dinner.
Yeah, it's on Marchplatz.
And it's outside under the big tent.

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And what's interesting, I'm not quite sure who...
There's a big tent in Fredericksburg?
Oh, yeah.
We have the Marchplatz in the center.
We are an important little town.
People come here for...
No, it's a famous town.
I don't know how important it is.
It was very important.
We have Oktoberfest.
Of course, you have a big Christmas market.

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And we're very famous for our Christmas tree
and our displays and all kinds of important...
We're an important town.
And now that we are pretty much overshadowing
Napa Valley...
Yeah, that'll be the day.

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A lot of Napa guys at this food
and wine festival.
Oh, I'll bet they're flocking there.
They are.
They are.
They're all opening up wineries because they know
that they'll get rich.
They know they can get cheaper land and
maybe grow something.
Oh, no, they're not interested in growing anything.
No, they just want to make drinking barns
like everybody else.
They bring in their grapes from California and

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they do a little dance and...
Oh, look at this.
It's Texas wine.
No.
And what was interesting is that...
Now, I had a whole train of thought.
You've taken me...
We did the weave and I lost the
thread.
There was something...
You did the weave.
It was something about...

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Oh, I can't remember now.
Well, it was about the $250 ticket.
You got invited to have dinner at the
thing for the first time and you learned
something.
Yeah, I can't remember what I...
Low tea!
I can't remember what I learned.
It'll come back to me.
It wasn't about the dinner per se.

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Anyway.
Well, it was a wine and food festival
in Fredericksburg.
Yeah, I know you're desperately trying to help
me.
And I was mocking it.
You're desperately trying to help me, Brad.
I am trying to help you by trying...
By the way, you do this to trigger
the other person to think, and, oh, yeah,
that's what I was thinking about.
But unfortunately, I can't.
Well, it was about mac and cheese.

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I'm not being successful.
I feel...
You're failing me, bro.
I feel low tea.
It was something about mac and cheese.
It was related to mac and cheese.
I can't remember.
The cheese sandwich.
Oh, no, it's a disappointing payoff now that
I think about it.
So the point was that we were invited,
and it was pretty much every...
We were invited by the international arms dealer

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because when he's not selling C-130s to
Africa, which, by the way, is a dynamite
business, because they keep...
Those Africans, they learn how to fly on
YouTube.
So they keep crashing them into hangars and
into each other.
So the guy has a steady supply of
C-130s.
He also does real estate deals for these

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wineries, and he's busy.
He had another guy there from Napa Valley,
family, fifth generation.
They want to buy cheap land here.
But it was odd.
I'm not quite sure who the wine and
food festival is for other than taking your
buddies and showing them off.
That was probably it.
Oh, look, my friends are celebrities.

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Yeah, now I think about it.
It's exactly what it was.
I was just a piece of meat.
You were just being used.
I was being used.
Well, they did have wild boar on the
menu.
So they have all the...
Well, I'd go for that too.
Yeah.
A little wild boar.
But it was all of the entrepreneurs who
have businesses who were there.
And everyone sponsoring the event.

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And, you know, we had Salvation Spirits, who's
our bootlegger guy, Trey.
He was also a lobbyist in Austin.
And we had the Augusta Vin and the
Wine Heiress.
And I'm like, who is this really for?
And everybody had the same story.
The attendance in our town is up by

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25, 30 percent.
Revenue down by 20 percent.
Because we're in mac and cheese times.
People do not...
They are not spending money.
They're coming here.
They're just looking around.
Here, let me look at your winery.
I don't think I want anything to drink.
You got any water?
Some peanuts?

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Water.
So that is a bad indicator, I would
say.
Yeah, I think things are a little down.
Well, 20 percent is a lot down.
Everybody's like, yeah, you know, the traffic is
there.
But people are...
JLs, you know, just looking.
Hey, I'm just looking.
JLs.
JLs, yeah, just looking.

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So anyway.
Ah, there was a number...
The Sunday morning shows were...
Scott Besant is everywhere now.
And I'm not quite sure why.
I think maybe it's because of the TikTok
deal.
That may be part of it.
I don't think so.
Lady G.

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New agent.
Lady G was out.
Is there a new war we're starting?
Or is it because of some land bombing?
No, you nailed it.
You nailed it.
No, you nailed it.
Whenever there's killing going on, Lindsey Graham was
like, yeah, we're killing people.

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I love it so much.
Oh, yeah, this is great.
Who are we killing?
Drug dealers, of course.
Good morning.
On Friday, Defense Secretary Higgs has ordered the
deployment of the Navy's most advanced aircraft carrier,
Gerald Ford, to Latin America.
President Trump was asked if he planned to

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ask Congress for a declaration of war.
Take a listen.
I don't think we're going to necessarily ask
for a declaration of war.
I think we're just going to kill people
that are bringing drugs into our country.
I love this.
Okay, we're going to kill them.
You know, they're going to be like dead.
This is why Lindsey Graham's like, oh, Donald,
oh, Donald, oh, Donald, you're talking about killing

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again.
Oh, I got to go on the shows.
You don't need an aircraft carrier to hit
drug boats.
Yeah, you do.
Of course you do.
You need to fly all your jets around.
Of course you need that.
Our land strikes plant.
Yeah, I think that's a real possibility.
I think President Trump's made a decision that

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Maduro, the leader of Venezuela, is an indicted
drug trafficker, that it's time for him to
go.
Indicted by who?
That Venezuela and Colombia have been safe havens
for narco terrorists for too long.
And President Trump told me yesterday that he
plans to brief members of Congress when he

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gets back from Asia about future potential military
operations against Venezuela and Colombia.
So there will be a congressional briefing about
a potential expanding from the sea to the
land.
I support that idea, but I think he
has all the authority he needs.
Senator Gallego on another network accused President Trump

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and our military of committing murder by attacking
these drug boats.
I don't care who's killing who, but I'm
there.
If there's murder, I'm there.
I'm Lindsey.
To our men and women in uniform, you're
not murdering anybody.
You're making America safer by going after a
narco terrorist.
You're following lawful orders.
When President Bush 41 took Ortega out in

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Panama.
I mean, really?
This is what blew my mind.
Like the whole Panamanian fiasco.
He's like, well, no, come on.
President Bush took out.
Do whatever we want.
He killed people here.
How come?
I'm going to ask you this, and I'm

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sure your clips will explain it.
Not.
How come nobody, including Graham here, they talk
about Bush.
Talk about how Obama used to have a
kill list and would, on every Tuesday, pick
a bunch of targets and on sovereign soil
elsewhere in Pakistan and Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere.

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We would have these guys blowed up, blew
up a wedding.
Apparently, according to some reports, double the entire
wedding.
And then they came with a double tap
and killed the Red Cross people.
How come that's not mentioned?
He's black.
He took Ortega out in Panama.
Reagan went into Grenada to deal with the

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Cuban influence from Grenada in our backyard.
He has all the authority in the world.
This is not murder.
This is protecting America from being poisoned by
narco terrorists coming from Venezuela and Colombia.
This is so awesome.
You can set your watch by it.
If there's actual, if people are using terms

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murder and killing and death, Lindsey Graham shows
up.
I mean, really, wherever.
Hey, yeah, we're going to kill the Russians
in you.
Yeah, Ukraine.
We're going to kill them.
We're going to kill the Russians.
Kill, kill, kill this guy.
And I think there's many people.
In fact, I think in general, there's a

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large swath of the population who get turned
on by killing.
Don't you think?
Well, it's something I don't like to think
about.
Well, we asked the hard questions here on
the no agenda show.
The examples you're citing also involved ground troops.

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Ground troops.
Like ground beef.
Ground troops.
Is that a prompter misread or what is
that?
Yes, it's a total prompter misread.
Ground troops like ground beef.
Like ground beef.
Exactly.
That's crazy.
The examples you're citing also involved ground troops.

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You said time for Maduro to go.
That sounds a lot like regime change.
By the way, stop.
This is the complaints that we have about
ridiculing the way we do.
There'll be somebody out there that listened to
us ridicule, laugh at this woman for not
being able to read a prompter correctly and
saying ground troops and saying you guys stink.

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But I don't know.
You have to find humor in things.
And that was humorous.
Ground troops.
How many troops would you like ground?
We have troop helper on sale.
You want a coarse grind or a fine?
This is bad.
Sausages?
I'll let the president speak to that.
I'm talking about a briefing that would expand

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military operations potentially from the sea to the
land.
It is time.
Notice this is interesting.
And I'm not quite sure why this is
yet.
But we had from the river to the
sea.
Palestine shall be free.
And now we have from the sea to
the land.
This is something.

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There's some mnemonics going on here that either
have not unfolded yet or Lindsey Graham is
psychic.
I don't know.
There's something happening here.
Expand military operations potentially from the sea to
the land.
It is time for Maduro to go.
It was time for Ortega to go.
You know, the Monroe Doctrine has been robustly
applied by President Trump.

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So these military assets are moving forward to
deal with a country that's got blood on
its hands when it comes to Americans by
flooding our country with drugs from Venezuela and
Colombia.
So I hope Maduro would leave peacefully, but
I don't think he's going to stay around
much longer.
I think President Trump is tired of Venezuela

(24:23):
being used as a staging platform to pause
in America.
Do you think that President Trump does a
booty call at night on Lindsey Graham?
I'm like, you know, the phone rings at
1130.
Oh, Donald.
Hey, I can't do Trump.
Lindsey, I need you to go on the
show tomorrow.
I need you to talk about death and

(24:44):
killing.
Oh, all right, Donald.
Well, there's a lot.
I don't think they even talk.
This is just his normal mode.
He just, or does the CBS know?
It's like, hey, guys, we got some killing.
What sicko can we get to really accentuate

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how horrible the Trump administration is?
Eh, get Lindsey, he'll do it.
Hey, Lindsey, get off that kid.
There's a lot there, sir, but you cited
- I'm sorry, that was bad.
That was bad.
That was bad.
Can we, can I retract that before I
get sued?
You didn't just say anything that's really-
The way I see it.

(25:25):
It wasn't good.
Well, there's a lot- It just was
a snide comment that was unnecessary.
Unnecessary roughness on the play.
Out there, sir, but you cited a Democratic
senator's criticism.
He's not the only one.
Some of your Republican colleagues have been uncomfortable
with what little information has been shared with
Congress.
Take a listen.

(25:45):
If they want all out war where we
kill anybody and everybody that is in the
country of Venezuela or coming out, that has
to have a declaration of war.
It's something that is not pretty, very expensive,
and I'm not in favor of declaring war
on Venezuela, but the Congress should vote.
The president shouldn't do this by himself.
If this was happening with this level of
insight under the Biden administration, I'd be apoplectic.

(26:10):
Okay, well, first of all, going back to
your earlier comment that CBS has their little
list of people to bring in.
By bringing in Rand Paul, that just proves
your point.
Yeah, of course.
So the big question is, is this about
drugs or could it be about something else?
What exactly is the end game?

(26:31):
Because you're talking about regime change in Venezuela.
The president says this is about drug boats.
Yeah, well, I think the end game is
- Is he getting information on what to
say next?
Yeah, yeah.
No, he's thinking about what to say next.
I don't think he's being fed anything.
I don't know about that.

(26:52):
About regime change in Venezuela.
The president says this is about drug boats.
Yeah, yeah, it's about drugs, isn't it, Lindsey?
Yeah, well, I think the end game is
to make sure that Venezuela and Colombia cannot
be used to poison America, that the narco
-terrorist dictator Maduro- Maduro, Maduro.
Will no longer be able to threaten our
country and to send in drugs to kill

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Americans.
As to Rand Paul, I just disagree fundamentally
with his approach.
We didn't have a declaration to go into
Panama.
Bush 41 went into Panama to replace the
leadership there because the Panama leadership, Panamanian leadership
were working with drug cartels to threaten our

(27:37):
country.
Oh, yeah, that was it.
I mean, wow, wow.
Lindsey, back off on that.
Reagan didn't have a declaration of war, congressional
authorization to deal with Cuban influence.
So this idea of Rand Paul, I just
fundamentally disagree with.
To the other senators, you deserve more information

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and you're going to get more information.
But there is no requirement for Congress to
declare war before the commander in chief can
use force.
Panama and Grenada are two examples in our
backyard for Republican presidents chose to go after
countries and leaders that were threatening our people.

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So, well, and there's a couple more clips
here, but what do you think is really
going on here?
Is this about regime change or is this
about drugs?
It's about oil.
Yeah, yeah.
It is about regime change because we got
to get that oil.
Did you know that Lady G was a

(28:42):
jag?
I did not know that.
But there seem to be a number of
issues wound up in here.
I know you personally used to serve as
a judge advocate in the Air Force.
Yeah, we looked at the judge's manual.
Preventative self-defense employed to counter non-imminent

(29:02):
threats is illegal under international law.
So if we are not at- International
law?
When did this come about?
These suspected criminals pose no threat of imminent
violence.
Isn't this potentially a war crime to be
killing the people on these boats and then
to be taking out a leader?

(29:23):
Go ahead, Lady Jag.
You know what to say.
No, not at all.
I don't know what manual you're referring to,
but I know what President Bush 41 did.
He took down Ortega, the leader of Panama,
because he was involved in drug trafficking, threatening
our country.
Venezuela is now partnering with Hezbollah.
Hezbollah is running out of money because Iran

(29:44):
is weak.
That's not new.
Partnering with drug cartels in Venezuela.
No, it should have stopped.
Here's what's new.
You got a commander-in-chief that's not
going to put up with this crap.
We're not going to sit on the sidelines
and watch boats full of drugs come to
our country.
We're going to blow them up and kill
the people that want to poison America.

(30:04):
And we're now going to expand operations, I
think, to the land.
So please be clear about what I'm saying
today.
President Donald Trump sees Venezuela and Colombia as
direct threats to our country because they house
narco-terrorist organizations.
The leader of Venezuela is an indicted drug

(30:24):
dealer in American courts.
So yeah, the game is changing when it
comes to drug traffickers and drug cartels.
We're going to use military force, like we
have in the past, to protect our country.
That's the new game we're playing.
I'm glad we're playing that game.
And if I were Maduro, I'd find a
way to leave before he goes down.

(30:46):
See, I still have to look at this
through the lens of the North Sea nexus.
I don't think we're going to do any
land operations.
I think this is really about destroying the
drug trade and cutting off the city of
London's main financial income.
Because that's, I mean, this is a lot
of money that's blowing up in the sea.

(31:06):
I don't know much about drugs, but it
looks like that's a big haul every single
time.
Uh, maybe.
Anyway, let's get back to killing.
Again, I bring back, they talk about the
woman, the reporter goes on about international war
crimes.
And that's the opportunity right there to throw

(31:29):
in the Obama material.
But I don't know why Lindsey's not doing
that.
He's obviously been briefed not to do that
for some reason.
I don't know what it is.
Something's up with Obama.
He doesn't have an analog to Obama's drone
kill list and drugs.

(31:49):
Although, because, you know, the poppies over there,
that was us.
But they weren't blowing up, they were just
blowing them up just arbitrarily.
No, I know.
But so this is- Which makes it
worse.
I mean, at least there's a rationale on
this end of the deal.
How about this?
Lindsey Graham's an idiot.
How about that?
Just as an idea.

(32:10):
I don't believe that for a minute.
Let's get back to killing.
Is trafficking cocaine an armed attack on the
United States?
That's what you're equating it to?
I am saying that there's plenty of law
under Article Two powers of the president are

(32:31):
designed to protect our countries from threats, foreign
and domestic.
Was it illegal for Bush to take out
in Panama?
Was it illegal for- Back to Bush,
Bush, Bush, Bush.
Reagan to go into Grenada and stop Cuban
influence building this big long runway?
There's plenty of precedent here to do what
he's doing.
But the game has changed.

(32:52):
The game has changed when it comes to
narco-trafficking drug organizations.
We're going to take you out.
We're going to kill you.
Yes, we're back to killing.
And guess what?
He's going to deal with you drug users,
too.
You referenced something earlier.
Hold on a second.
Is this Margaret?
Yes, Margaret.
Yeah.

(33:12):
Why?
So she, when she brings up this armed,
when she brought up the armed threat thing,
he should have retorted with, does killing Americans
have to be with a bullet?
That's the only thing that counts?
You know, I'm giving- I'm giving you
the IFP.

(33:32):
You can talk to Lindsey.
I think that you're much better at it.
I'm just saying- Lindsey, I'm passing it
on to John.
He's going to give you some tips.
Talk about Obama, you idiot.
You referenced something earlier, sir, I want to
come back to.
You said to the men and women of
the military that they are carrying out lawful
orders.
Secretary Pegg said removed the top uniformed lawyers

(33:56):
in the Air Force.
You know this, the Navy and the Army,
because he called them roadblocks to orders that
are given by a commander in chief.
There have been other departures as well.
Come on, you're a jag.
This raises concern that commanders are not being
given adequate legal counsel.
That is why- Go ahead.
You just said that sentence to assure them.

(34:18):
Give her some law.
That's garbage.
That's absolute garbage.
Which, Pegg said that?
Trump doesn't have the- Go for the
law.
No, no.
I'm saying that the theory that President Trump's
doing something here illegally, dealing with a country
that's run by an indicted drug dealer, it's
the same as Panama.
There's a better case to go into Venezuela

(34:40):
than there was Panama.
I mean, okay, we have to analyze why
he keeps bringing him back to Panama.
Let's just review Panama.
Well, I don't know how much we can
review, but Noriega was put in place as
a puppet to the United States and he
didn't perform right.

(35:01):
Exactly.
And so we took him out.
We said, no, this is not what you're
supposed to be doing, becoming a drug lord.
You're out of here.
Yes, exactly.
So that's what's going on.
I mean, it can't be any more obvious
that Maduro is not doing his job the
way we explained it to him.
Yeah, but see, that's the problem.

(35:23):
We never explained.
He got in through Chavez, who was running
the show, and he was a joker, kind
of a clownish.
Who says the CIA wasn't involved in his
installation?
They love drugs.
I can't say.
I'm not going to argue against the possibility.
Okay, let's continue.
It's possible that maybe, yeah, you're right.

(35:44):
He's a CIA asset.
Yeah, that seems obvious to me.
I mean, you keep going back to Bush,
Bush.
Most of the people are.
Actually, by that thesis, because he keeps doing
that, that might be it.
Yeah, the guys.
Okay, continue to play.
Venezuela, then there was Panama.

(36:06):
There's a better case to deal with Colombia
than there was Grenada.
Yeah, I've been doing this all of my.
What was Grenada?
What was Grenada?
Same deal?
No, Grenada was turning into a Marxist out
of the blue.
They decided to have a kind of a
Marxist regime.

(36:26):
Began it with.
I forgot who got into power, and they
just decided to become a Marxist country, and
we weren't going to have it.
That's all.
It was very simple.
Okay, Colombia, then there was Grenada.
Yeah, I've been doing this all of my
adult life.
I have.
What were you doing as a kid?
All the confidence in the world that President

(36:48):
Trump has the legal authority.
What?
Wow, what a statement.
I've been doing this all my adult life.
What, planning murder?
Killing people?
Was he around during Bush 41?
When he says, I've been doing this, unless
she clarify, ask him, what do you mean
by this?
We won't know.
Yeah, he's just blathering now.

(37:10):
There's a better case to deal with Colombia
than there was Grenada.
Yeah, I've been doing this all of my
adult life.
Colombia?
What's Colombia got to do with the price
of bread?
He's been doing coke all his adult life.
I have all the confidence in the world
that President Trump has the legal authority.
But more importantly, fist bump means something different
to him.

(37:30):
He's doing the right thing.
More Americans have died from cocaine and fentanyl
poisoning than any terrorist group in the world.
I am very pleased that we now have
a president who's going to use the full
force of the American people, the might of
America to protect us from narco terrorist states
and drug organizations.

(37:50):
Keep it up, Mr. President.
We're not committing murder.
We're protecting our nation from people who want
to poison us.
Well, there's obviously buyers on the other end
of it, which is why the cartels are
selling, right?
But yeah, we'll do a vote.
Yeah, Lindsey's gonna come and kill you too.
That's what I'm hearing.

(38:11):
Yeah, we'll deal with both.
Yeah, all right, let's wrap it up.
When we talk about lawful orders here, I
myself spoke to a former senior commander who
said he'd want that in writing.
Because of concern that this is going to
be down the line questionable.
You've already heard the orders to carry out

(38:31):
operations.
You've already heard Democratic lawmakers, including on this
program, say that they have concerns about future
prosecutions of officers.
Well, act on your concerns.
Okay, if you got concerns, here's what we
can do as members of Congress.
We can cut off funding for military operations
we don't like.
So if you're concerned as a Democrat or

(38:53):
Republican, why don't you introduce legislation to cut
off all funding to the military when it
comes to attacking drug votes and going after
narco terrorist states through the military?
You can do that.
Go ahead and do it.
I'll vote no.
I think it's all the authority in the
world in Article 2 and international law to
make sure that countries like Venezuela can't be

(39:15):
staging areas to infiltrate drugs into our country.
I think it's all the legal authority in
the world.
I'm just really glad he's doing this.
And Mr. President, keep it up.
Well, we look forward to hearing those justifications
when they are shared with Congress.
You made some news there, Senator.
Thank you for your time today.
What news did he make?

(39:38):
What news did he make there, Senator?
I don't know what kind of news he
made.
So Graham's everywhere.
I'm glad you're watching the morning.
Actually, I didn't watch him this way.
I watch him probably every few weeks.
I don't watch him every Sunday.
This is the work of Steve Jones.

(40:01):
This is he if he's watching and sending
you this.
Yeah.
If he's going to do it, he'll let
me know early on.
I'm up and running.
I'm recording.
And then I know I can count on
it so I don't have to look at
it myself.
And I can do other things.
So let's give credit where credit is due.
And then Scott, Scott Besant, he's everywhere.

(40:23):
It's like all the gay guys are out
today.
The military has now launched 10 attacks, killing
more than 40 people against these suspected drug
smuggling boats, as you just referenced.
Is the United States at war with Venezuela,
Mr. Secretary?

(40:43):
Wait, what is Scott Besant secretary of?
Treasury.
I thought it is the Treasury or no,
he's no, he's Treasury.
He's the money guy.
He's the money.
He's the bank.
So what's what's he got to do with
the military?
Well, another what I'm asking here is why
is this pointed question being asked of the

(41:06):
secretary of the Treasury who is responsible for
printing $100 bills?
Well, because they just want to get to
the bottom of this.
These are journalists, John.
This is Manhans Welker.
She wants to get to the bottom of
it.
Is the United States at war with Venezuela,
Mr. Secretary?
Oh, don't answer that.

(41:26):
Chris and I have a big portfolio.
Defense is not one of them.
I think you'd have to ask our great
secretary of war, Pete Hegseth or Secretary of
State Marco Rubio on that.
But what I can tell you is the
president's committed to protecting U.S. citizens from
the ravages of these drugs.

(41:49):
And also, you were asking earlier about the
China trade deal.
And part of that is going to include
substantial, very substantial cooperation to stop the precursor
drugs on fentanyl, which make their way to
Mexico, to Canada and kill hundreds of thousands
of Americans a year and ruin families.

(42:10):
Well, and it's worth noting that the vast
majority of fentanyl comes to the U.S.
from Mexico.
That's what he just said.
That's just what he says.
She's not even listening to what he says.
So, but first, you know, I've noticed, by
the way, I have noticed this about her
and I've noticed this about a lot of
these other guys.
They have their little script in front of

(42:30):
them.
And the guy will say something that they,
I don't know if they don't listen at
all.
And they'll ask that, like, almost ask the
same question twice because the guy will answer
the question and, you know, here's the answer
to the question you're about to ask.
If they happen to do that by accident,
they'll still ask the question.
It's very, very amateurish.

(42:53):
Because that's what they're told to do.
We're on a tight.
Listen, we got to get the pharma ads
in.
Could you just ask the question?
And then and so Besson was everywhere this
morning.
Here he is with Margaret.
And what what is the pressing question we
need to ask here?
The Paris prosecutor's office announced today that French
police have made arrests, although we don't know
how many, in last Sunday's robbery at the

(43:15):
Louvre.
One suspect was detained at the Charles de
Gaulle airport as he tried to flee the
country.
Thieves stole an estimated $100 million worth of
jewels and gems during a brazen daytime robbery
that took less than eight minutes.
So that was the intro getting to Scott
Besson and then straight into questions about well,

(43:37):
I guess this is his wheelhouse about Russia
and sanctions.
And I don't do we want to go
there?
I don't know if we want to go
there yet.
Well, I don't know why you brought it
in.
But well, because it was Scott Besson.
You know, I don't know.
Yeah.
OK, well, Scott Besson was all over the

(43:58):
place for some unknown reason.
Well, it's about Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia,
Russia and the sanctions.
Mr. Secretary, before I let you go, I
want to ask you, the US sanctioned Russia's
top oil and gas companies this past week.
But Vladimir Putin's envoy, who is here in
the United States, Carol Dimitriev, I know you

(44:19):
know him.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
It was actually I played him out of
order.
She had Besson on about China and Russia,
China and Russia.
But basically, let's do that later.
It's boring.
China and Russia.
It's boring.
Let's let's do that.
This was this was the real question, the
TikTok deal.

(44:39):
That's what really matters.
This this is what Margaret was doing all
morning.
I saw that you mentioned TikTok was discussed.
Are the details of the president's executive order
released in September?
Are those finalized?
Has China agreed to give up control of
the algorithm that determines what users see?
Well, you're going to hear some really strange

(45:03):
stuff here, particularly when we get to Moulinard,
the Democrat, I think.
They're all they're so hung up on this
algo like, oh, you know, it's like censoring
what people see.
And that's that's exactly what algorithms do.
You can call it censoring.
You can call it recommendations.

(45:25):
But everyone's so hyper focused on the algo.
And all the algo does on TikTok is
give you what you want.
Do you want to see more cooking videos?
You got cooking videos, though.
You're John C.
Dvorak.
You want to see some lunatics with blue
hair?
Here you go.
The algo is not that impressive.
Margaret, we reached a final deal on TikTok.

(45:49):
We reached one in Madrid.
And I believe that as of today, all
the details are ironed out.
And that will be for the two leaders
to consummate that transaction on Thursday in Korea.
Can you tell us any details of that
transaction?
Margaret, I'm not part of the commercial side

(46:12):
of the transaction.
My remit was to get the Chinese to
agree to approve the transaction.
And I believe we successfully accomplished that over
the past two days.
Did he say it was my remit?
Yeah, I caught that, too.
I'm going to use that with Tina.
It was my remit.

(46:32):
Let's look it up.
OK, let's look it up.
Remit.
Do you want to use the robot?
Yeah, ask the robot for the definition.
OK.
Error.
Give me the definition of remit.
Remit means to send money, forgive a debt

(46:52):
or reduce a penalty.
It can also refer to a task or
area of responsibility, like someone's remit in a
job.
Interesting.
Could have been his responsibility.
It was my race.
Instead of saying it was my responsibility.
Yeah.
He said it was my remit.
That's how they talk at the club.
So nobody, by the way.
So let's stop right here for one second

(47:13):
for everybody out there.
Nobody ever uses the term remit.
To remain responsibility in my lifetime.
I've never heard this before.
Well.
So it's got to be code.
Well, it can also mean money.
So it could be milieu.

(47:34):
Milieu.
Well, there's a lot of milieu going on,
that's for sure.
There's a lot of milieu.
It was my remit.
Well, let's keep an eye out for it
being used again.
Remit is on the radar.
So let's talk about this TikTok deal with
a guy who hates it.
On the committee work that you've been doing.
I'm sure this is a representative of John

(47:55):
Molinar.
You heard from Treasury Secretary Besson at the
top of the program that he says China
has agreed to the TikTok deal.
170 million Americans use this social media app.
Congress had passed a law to force.
Why is she laugh telling?
Congress had passed.

(48:15):
She's like a goat.
What is that?
Congress had passed a law.
Yeah, now she mentioned goat.
That is.
It's not like a goat.
That is.
That is very strange.
I don't know why she did that.
Listen to that again.
Congress had passed a law.
To force the sale and cited it as

(48:36):
a national security threat if it continued to
operate the way it has.
I have your national security concerns about the
app and about this transaction.
Been addressed.
Well, I think it's important that we know
that it the law requires a divestment and
getting the Chinese Communist Party control away from

(48:58):
the app as well as the algorithm.
And it allows ownership only up to 20
% for the Chinese entity ByteDance.
And to me, it's very important that that's
carried out.
We don't know all the specifics of this,
but we know that American companies are very
interested in participating.

(49:18):
There's the proposal for a lease agreement.
But how you get that algorithm completely out
of the Chinese control is going to be
up to the experts.
There's 6 million pieces of code in this
algorithm.
And we need to make sure that it's
protected for the American people.
There's 6 million pieces of code to the

(49:42):
algorithm.
What does that even mean, bro?
Does he mean 6 million lines of code?
I mean, has someone counted them?
Did they do a line count?
WC dash L.
I mean, what exactly happened here?
This whole thing is odd.

(50:04):
I think whoever is buying this, mainly Ellison
and Murdoch, I think it's coming up.
They're buying a dog.
They are buying eyeballs.
Yeah, but I think it's limited.
I think the eyeballs go down.
It's a dog.
So that algorithm is the data tracking system
that's pulled from a user.
No.
And so the accusation was also that this

(50:25):
is basically.
The algorithm is not the data tracking system.
That's what Facebook does with their little SDK
in every single app.
Manipulating consumers.
Manipulating consumers, unlike any other algorithm out there
today from Silicon Valley.
In terms of what they were able to
see.
So will that algorithm be maintained?

(50:48):
And will upgrades only be conducted by, for
example, American engineers?
Upgrades.
I mean, this is really pathetic.
It is pathetic.
This is really, really bad.
That would be my recommendation.
Because ultimately, we don't want a Chinese propaganda

(51:09):
effort affecting 170 million Americans.
We also want to make sure that data
from Americans is kept secure.
And as long as the Chinese are involved,
I think there's reasons for distrust.
And even with the 20% stake, I'm
still concerned about it.
Quite frankly, the Chinese report to the Chinese

(51:31):
Communist Party.
They will leverage every advantage they get.
But the president has set a goal of
making this available to the American people.
Following the law that was passed in a
bipartisan way.
And I trust that they are doing that.
The president has not been following the letter
of the law that you voted for.
Well, I think you know that.
I think the goal has been to come

(51:53):
to an agreement.
To come to a deal.
And they've been working very hard to do
that.
But when you have the Chinese Communist Party.
Xi Jinping with direct leverage on this.
In terms of what they will do.
What they won't do.
It's very difficult to continue to make that
available.
But I trust the people who are negotiating
that.
Recognize we've got to get the control of

(52:15):
the algorithm.
Away from the Chinese Communist Party.
The app.
And make sure that the ownership is controlled
by America.
Not China.
Okay.
So first of all, apologies.
He's a Republican.
Representative from Michigan.
He's a chemist.
And that's why he serves on the House
Committee on the Chinese Communist Party.

(52:36):
So that's why he doesn't.
Has no idea what he's talking about.
Who is this?
Molinar.
M Moulin.
Moulinere.
I thought it was Scott Besant.
No, no, no.
We changed from Besant.
I didn't realize you'd done that.
He sounds a lot like Besant.
I think he's married.

(52:57):
Oh, that makes a difference.
Yeah.
He's not in the Besant club.
There's the A-gays.
Come on.
We know this is a club.
That's where you talk about remit.
Hey, was this the guy that said remit?
No, it was Besant who said remit.
Okay.
Yeah.
I remit you.
Oh, yeah, baby.
So let's talk about that ownership.
The president said the investors would include Michael

(53:20):
Dell.
Lachlan Murdoch, whose family owns Fox News.
And Larry Ellison, whose son owns Paramount.
What kind of deal is that?
They're a bunch of nepos.
Yes, but nepos.
But then to what end?
Are they going to make money off of
it?
How does I don't know.

(53:41):
They're just fronts.
This is come on.
Let's face it.
This is bull crap.
The whole thing is nonsense.
Okay.
Company of CBS News.
Do you have concerns that people who are
boosters of the president will have ownership of
social media in this way?
You know, I think powerful.
Well, there are some I'm sure investors.

(54:03):
Not everybody is simply a supporter of the
president.
But I believe that in this case, Congress
has a role for oversight.
And we will be meeting with the parties
of transaction.
We also will have hearings on this because
at the end, you're right.
I'm done with it, too.
So speaking of the nepos and CBS, I

(54:26):
came across an article that indeed shows.
I'm looking for it here now that Barry
Weiss that she is running for all intents
and purposes.
CBS 60 minutes and her big get her
big get out of the gate was the

(54:47):
60 minutes interview with Whitcoff and Kushner.
Which was one of the lowest rated 60
minutes in history.
Interestingly enough, it was boring.
It was super boring.
I just thought it was interesting.
Here's the way this works.
Come on.

(55:07):
Well, what's she going to have us do,
Bill?
Oh, she wants us to interview these two
guys.
All right.
We'll make it as boring as you can.
We got to get some low numbers on
this thing.
So just make sure they edit it.
They're long.
Don't take anything.
I'd make it boring as hell.
You can do it.
You know how to do it.
Bring in Leslie Stahl.

(55:28):
She'll make it super boring.
Bring in Leslie.
Bring Leslie in.
She doesn't know what she's doing.
She's old.
Wow.
Ages much?
Yeah.
Well, I'm old.
I can say that.
Here's what's interesting.
I got flack.
I got flack aflack.
I got flack from people because I pulled
a clip from the very end, which I

(55:48):
thought was interesting to us because it was
Whitcoff saying, oh, yeah, no, we're doing we're
cleaning up Morocco as we speak, which, of
course, related to our investigation.
Our thesis.
Yes.
Our thesis on the Gen Z discord system,
which seems to be right on track.
So we are the ones destabilizing Morocco on

(56:10):
discord and Gen Z with professional signs, I
might add.
And the the pushback that I got, which
is like, are you kidding me?
That's all you got from that interview.
You didn't hear about the master plan.
Like the master plan.
I mean, I watched the whole thing.

(56:31):
It was boring.
The master planned.
They planned this to do this to Gaza,
Gaza, the Riviera.
I'm like, OK, where did you get it
from?
So what did you watch the whole thing?
And so they send me a clip of
breaking points with Sagar and Crystal Ball.

(56:54):
And you were talking about these guys.
They're completely independent now.
They are completely independent.
They're no longer with.
Who are they worth?
Who are they with?
They're with the hill.
The hill.
Right.
So they broke off from the hill.
They're independent.

(57:17):
And I think that they are in the
same audience capture mode as many of the
other podcasters who we don't want to aim
our weapon at because we don't want to
shoot into the heaven for a bit inside
the tent, because I think they're hardly podcasters
by any means.
They are now they're considered podcasters.

(57:38):
Yeah, well, they had.
Yeah, they're typical people that were in the
mainstream doing mainstream stuff, mainstream work for a
mainstream publication for an M5M operation.
They were there and they had a video
segment just like everybody that's like PBS.
No difference.
And then they got they decided they could
make more money doing a podcast and then

(58:01):
found out that they probably couldn't.
Well, I think they're actually doing OK.
I'm sure they are.
I'm sure they're doing better now.
But at the beginning, I don't think they
were.
But I believe that they are a very
prime example of people who are afraid to.
And this is, you know, like Scott Adams
would say, one movie, two screens.
They view everything as crystal balls, specifically Israel.

(58:25):
They're genociding people.
They're genociding.
They're just slaughtering.
They just want to kill the guys and
kill, kill the slaughter.
They can't get out of that mode.
And so this is the clip that I
was saying.
You know, interestingly, people just caught this.
I didn't know this from the 60 Minutes
interview with Kushner and Whitcoff originally.
But in that interview, and this is going
to be D-Zero, guys, Whitcoff talks.

(58:48):
It's going to be D-Zero, guys.
Can you imagine you telling me?
I don't even know what that means.
That's their internal code for which clip to
play, where you just say, look for the
misspelling of, you know, look for NPS.
And that will be NPS.
This is too professional.
And it's going to be D-Zero, guys.

(59:29):
Whitcoff talks about how they've been developing this,
quote unquote, master plan for two years.
And Jared Kushner gets a very uncomfortable look
on his face when Whitcoff uses that language.
Let's go ahead and take a look at
that.
Part of the plan is the reconstruction, the
building, rebuilding of Gaza.
And you're builders.

(59:50):
You've been in real estate.
As you said, it's extremely complex.
Tell us more about the plan and how
much it's going to cost.
Where's the money going to come from?
And who's going to award the contracts?
Three questions.
I think it's going to cost a lot
of money.
What's a lot of money?

(01:00:11):
You know, the estimates are in the 50
billion dollar range.
It might be a little bit less.
It might be a little bit more.
I happen to think that that's not a
lot of money in that region.
You have governments that are going to jump
on in.
And so the Middle East countries are going
to provide the money.
But you'll see European participation and so forth.
Which is thought that is actually interesting because

(01:00:33):
we heard Ursula, Queen Ursula, say the Middle
East, there are brothers and sisters.
We are.
So, yes.
So they already know that money's coming from
the EU.
I think the beginning of this plan is
how to get it going.
And that's what me and Jared work on
all the time.
The money raising, we think, is the easy

(01:00:54):
part.
We think that happens relatively quickly.
But it's the master plan.
And we're working with a group of people
who have been working on master plans for
the last two years.
So there are plans already.
We have plans already.
We have a master plan already.
And by the way, and Jared's been pushing
this and we're working together on it.

(01:01:14):
And I think if the world saw the
progress so far, they'd be pretty impressed.
So Witkoff says they've been working on a
master plan for two years now.
So they got really hung up on the
master plan.
And here's their deconstruction of the master plan.
Yeah.
This is the master plan.
And this is basically the West Bankification.
They still have control.

(01:01:35):
All of this falls apart.
It's really hard to take it seriously because
it's fake.
I mean, look at the comments from the
finance minister about Saudi Arabia.
Who do you think the people would be
responsible for, quote unquote, disarming Hamas would be?
It would be the UAE, Saudi Arabia, the
US.
J.D. and Trump both say no US
troops will ever set foot on the ground
in Gaza.
Great.

(01:01:55):
I mean, honestly, I support that.
But eventually, somebody's troops have got to set
foot on the ground to have political administration.
Their plan is like some phased rollout where
they'll just encroach space by space.
Hamas will be allowed and then they'll slowly
de-Hamasify it.
How?
How do you do that?
Like, what does that look like?
At a certain point, it's all just recreating

(01:02:16):
the same dynamic as Iraq, Afghanistan.
These people have no actual plan.
In the absence, chaos will reign.
Israel will continue to shoot and to kill.
And eventually, some sort of mass attack or
whatever, either Hamas will do.
It may be Israel will do.
We'll see.
And then we'll be right back to where
things were.
That seems like the modal outcome at this

(01:02:36):
point.
I don't really see another way that it
could go.
Now, I'm like, wow, that's all you can
take from that is they're going to de
-Hamasify.
They're going to get back to killing.
They're going to be killing because the Jews
like to kill people.
They kill, kill, kill, kill.
And it's so disingenuous because they actually didn't
play what came right after that interview.

(01:03:00):
As you notice, there were three questions.
The third question is, who's going to be
paying for it?
And it was Witkoff who brought that in.
And as I'm listening to it, I had
a different takeaway from this.
I think if the world saw the progress
so far, they'd be pretty impressed.
So basically, over the last couple of years,
there's been a lot of organizations that have

(01:03:22):
been trying to determine what happens after the
war.
What's clear right now is we're very much
focused on the humanitarian and the de-confliction
to make sure that the aid can get
to the people.
De-confliction, because they're still shooting over there.
Yes.
So you have to make sure that we're
dealing with both sides and sending messages so
that you don't let embers become little fires
that become forest fires.

(01:03:43):
So we're working on de-confliction, humanitarian aid.
Right now, you have Gazans trying to go
home.
They're trying to go back to where they
lived before.
They're going back to where the rubble is
and putting a tent down.
Correct.
Correct.
And by the way, and it's rough there
because it's not just rubble.
It's a lot of unexploded munitions all over

(01:04:05):
the field.
And as to your question, Leslie, who's going
to award contracts?
The answer is there's a board of peace
and we're going to be very, very focused
and fastidious about having the best talent there.
We're already talking to contractors from all of
the Middle Eastern countries because we think there
has to be support from them and they
know the market in the best way.

(01:04:27):
Will it be transparent?
Everything's transparent that we do.
Yes.
You can't replace a corrupt government with another
corrupt government.
Okay.
So they didn't play that piece and the
people who sent me this didn't see that
piece.
Of course not.
I'm glad you got all worked up about
some nasty note.
But wait for it.
And by the way, did you notice that
Leslie said Gazans instead of Palestinians?

(01:04:48):
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's in the style guide now.
They've changed that.
They've changed it to Gazans.
But my point is that the European Union
is going to be involved.
Blair is the chairman of the board of
peace.
So this seems like a gigantic setup to
screw those guys if it goes wrong.

(01:05:10):
Like, well, Blair, Queen Ursula, you guys, you're
a big part of this.
But as I reflected upon, I'm very happy
that these people got mad at me and
sent me this.
Because the thing that I kept thinking is
they had this master plan two years ago.
So today is October 26.
That means that 19 days after October 7,

(01:05:33):
two years ago, they started on the master
plan.
That seems a little tight to me.
And when you just say two years, it
could be longer.
It could have been before.
Before October 7.
It could have been.
The whole thing could be part of a
giant scheme.

(01:05:54):
That's what I'm thinking.
I'm thinking the Arabs set this up with
probably with Israel.
Like, you know what?
That thesis about the Israelis being so cavalier
on that day.
Yes.
They didn't have anybody around.
And the fact.
Has never gone away.

(01:06:14):
And the fact that they filmed everything.
Because that was kind of new.
All the GoPros, the flying GoPros.
I don't think that they intended for so
many people to get killed.
Maybe they did.
I don't know.
Then maybe I think as we've heard from
our boots on the ground, death is a
very different concept in the Middle East.

(01:06:36):
It's not quite the same as we have
for some reason.
That whole thing sounds like a scam that
was set up with Israel and the Arab
nations to change this.
And the Arab nations, they're the ones that
are going to be putting the money in.
They're the ones with Indonesia who are going
to be protecting it.

(01:06:57):
Bring the Europeans in.
This is, you know, tag, you're it.
I don't think we're going to have any
involvement.
Well, let's hope so.
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
But all the, oh, another war, American boots
on the ground.
I don't think so.
I really don't think so.
We'll see.

(01:07:18):
So anyway, keep sending me that stuff.
I like it.
Keep sending me that stuff.
What's that same one guy?
No, no, it was a couple actually.
It was a couple.
I'll pause for a moment if you want
to do something here.
Well, since we're doing our famous anniversary show,

(01:07:40):
we played some measles stuff recently.
I ran into, because I wanted to play
these on the show when we talked about
measles and the fear mongering.
And so I got a couple of clips.
These are the clips we ran in 20,
this is 2015.
These are from the Law and Order show

(01:08:02):
in 2015.
It's 10 years ago when they were having,
measles does have a, I was looking up
at the death rates because worldwide death rates
hovers around, it could be as, hovers around
maybe 100,000 under five children a year

(01:08:25):
worldwide.
But that number is based on a computer
model.
Computer.
And so we don't really know what it
is because we make light of the disease
with that clip that we play from the
show.
But they decided to do counter-programming.

(01:08:46):
And here's two clips from Law and Order
on measles.
This is history clip number one.
What, did my neighbors call you?
Why would they do that?
Because they're upset at the choices I've made
for my family.
Choices?
Like not vaccinating your son?
I won't put my son at risk because
big pharma and their lackeys in the media
try and jam vaccination down our throats.
Even if that puts him at risk.

(01:09:07):
What risk?
He had measles two weeks ago and the
immune system he was born with kicked in
and now he's fine.
Well, Sierra Walker isn't fine.
She's dead after being infected by your son.
By the way, 10 years ago, when we
spoke about these things, said this is nonsense
or, you know, a tad overdone.

(01:09:28):
There was a lot, before COVID, there was
a lot more pushback about vaccines.
People were like, you guys are anti-vaxxers.
Yes, that's interesting.
You're right.
When the, yeah, during the era where you
had to argue about being a vaccine skeptic
versus an anti-vaxxer, you're right.

(01:09:49):
The pushback was enormous.
It was the COVID bull crap shot, which
isn't even a vaccine.
The mRNA shot that changed everything in terms
of attitudes.
But the drama was good.
This is another example from, I believe this
from, there's two shows they did on measles.

(01:10:10):
One was in 2009 and one was in
2015.
And this, I believe, is from the second
show.
Sierra Walker's death wasn't a homicide.
She was just dug out of a shallow
grave.
She didn't fall in there playing hopscotch.
Well, whoever put her in there didn't kill
her.
Encephalitis did.
Swelling of the brain?
Brought on by measles.
Are you sure it's measles?
No signs of abuse or neglect.

(01:10:31):
No bruises or abrasions either.
Her teeth weren't in great shape, but mostly
from a diet high in sugars, that's it.
But measles, how does that happen this day
and age?
She wasn't vaccinated.
She wasn't vaccinated.
Wow.
You know, two people came to an interesting
conclusion because I played clips from ER and

(01:10:53):
from the pit.
So now we've spawned the whole, you know,
a generation of this kind of propaganda.
The doctor in both of those clips in
the pit was Dr. Robbie.
In ER, it was Dr. Carter.
Both played by the same actor, Noah Weill.

(01:11:13):
Yeah, that's well known.
But I didn't know that.
The pit was a takeoff of the ER.
It was designed on it.
So did they just, is this how the
casting went?
That guy was so good with the propaganda.
Let's bring him in again.
He really brought the message home.
He was, I think, part of the production
team that brought it to light.

(01:11:36):
So it's a very famous show.
Yes.
I have not watched the whole episode of
it.
I don't find it interesting.
I wasn't a big ER fan either.
Oh, Clooney.
It's over dramatized.
Okay, so here we go.
This is 2018.
Now we move way up.
And this is what was going on in
Washington State.
In Washington State, as the number of measles

(01:11:58):
cases grows, worries are growing too.
At one hospital, security guards are staking out
each entrance, screening visitors for symptoms of the
virus, which can be deadly.
We're taking a lot of precautions to prevent
anyone from entering with any signs and symptoms
of measles.
The state now has 50 confirmed cases, 49
of them in Clark County, the outbreak epicenter.

(01:12:20):
Health officials say only one of those patients
had been vaccinated for measles.
Is the worst of it over yet?
I don't know if the worst of it
is over because we still have cases coming
in.
Beyond Washington, measles has surfaced in at least
eight other states this year, including New York,
with more than 200 cases reported.
The virus is highly contagious, spreads through coughing
and sneezing, and can linger in a room

(01:12:41):
for up to two hours.
Health officials say Clark County has one of
the lowest vaccination rates in the state.
Nearly a quarter of all public school students
there are not fully vaccinated.
We don't have to be going through this.
We have an incredibly safe, cheap, and effective
vaccine.
Two doses of vaccine are 97% effective.
Those who think they might have measles are

(01:13:02):
urged to call their doctor first.
Don't just show up unannounced.
Health officials worry that could expose others who
are in the waiting room.
Lester.
You know, now wait, wait.
Did you notice the meme in there has
changed?
This is the early days of Obamacare, or

(01:13:22):
even before it was passed, I think it
was 2018.
Obamacare, which has managed to, the Affordable Care
Act has managed to make things so unaffordable
that the Democrats are freaked out about not
getting some subsidies in so we can help
pay for it.
It's gotten outrageously expensive.
The safe and effective meme was in there,

(01:13:43):
but it wasn't safe and effective.
What was it?
Safe, cheap, and effective.
Oh my.
You can't say that anymore.
No, you can't.
You can't.
I wonder what it costs these days.
Well, they jacked the prices up.
This reminds me of prices of just general

(01:14:04):
drugs have gone up 10x just because they
can get the money because the insurance companies
can, you know, they're a part in the
business.
They're in the business of selling the stuff.
They're middlemen.
The whole thing is falling apart.
I'm looking for the price, MMR, okay.
Yeah, the retail price of the mRNA vaccine.

(01:14:25):
No, the MMR, not...
Oh, the MMR, yeah, okay.
Yeah, $97.
Yeah, but back then...
It used to be $26.
Yeah, what changed?
Insurance.
What changed?
So-called insurance.
Yeah, exactly.
Obamacare, which is the worst.

(01:14:45):
The health marketplace is the worst.
Yeah, it's anything but affordable.
This should be the anything but affordable healthcare
act.
I will, again, shill for our producers.
You can join many different programs.
Tina is on CrowdHealth.
And she pays, I think, $200 a month.

(01:15:08):
And then when something happens, and this is
from someone getting pregnant to someone with cancer,
then the whole system chips in and it
gets paid for.
They negotiate.
The price is down for you.
Everything's all done.
It's beautiful.
Tina at curry.com, she'll help you out.
She'll give you a discount code, Bongino.

(01:15:30):
Yeah, discount slash Tina.
Bongino.
Just while we're on Big Pharma, I got
a, you know, as I kind of expected,
wow, we got a lot of people about
that.
About what was the name of it?
Sublocade.
Remember we talked about on the last show?

(01:15:51):
Sublocade.
Yeah, I remember vaguely.
Wow.
So we have a lot of people who
have experience with that.
And I put like three or four boots
on the ground reports in there.
And it has helped many people.
But every single one of them says, oh,
dude, this is 80 to 100 times stronger
than morphine.

(01:16:12):
And in essence, it's if you don't add,
you know, therapy in there to figure out
what's wrong, why you, you know, the actual
addiction.
They will just keep on shooting this into
you forever.
And it's really, it's changing out for opioid

(01:16:33):
addiction to this stuff.
Yeah, it's very addictive.
And it's and you can't get high on
it.
No, it's funny if no one really.
I got a note from a guy whose
sister was is an addict.
I can find the note and read it,
but I can just summarize.
And she she went on if you if

(01:16:53):
you're already addicted, it doesn't get you high.
But if you're not addicted, it gets you
high.
So when it gets you off your addiction,
it gets you high.
And so she got on this stuff and
just started getting extra prescriptions for it and
was using it as her as her way
of getting high.
I love our producers.
Bad product.
Yeah.
I love our producers, though, like, oh, yeah,

(01:17:13):
yeah, I was a druggy.
Let me tell you what to give my
experience.
And every single one of them, though, is
clean.
I love that.
Congratulations to all of you.
That but not necessarily from sublocate, you know,
they had other influences.
A listener.
But and she's not clean.
And he wanted to call her out as
a douchebag.
Well, I'm not going to show.

(01:17:35):
Hey, you know what?
Get off the drug.
What's horrible?
But we do have the best podcast producers
in the universe.
Oh, yeah, we definitely do.
Definitely do.
Another thing.
Another amazing thing has happened is peanut allergies
have dropped off a cliff.

(01:17:57):
This was something else that we were noticing
throughout the early days of the show.
And I think it didn't kind of start
around the same time when, oh, peanut allergies.
And we were I know I was complaining
no peanuts on the flight because someone was
allergic to peanuts.
You remember this?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So that all of a sudden is dropped
off a cliff by some amazing advice.

(01:18:20):
Eight year old Jack Ravner used to be
allergic to peanuts.
It's a little stressful.
Mom says his allergy is gone now after
being slowly exposed.
New research says there are fewer children like
Jake.
Since 2017, peanut allergies in young children have
dropped 43 percent.
We looked at medical records from 50 different

(01:18:40):
pediatric practices in multiple states.
Dr. David Hill led the study at Children's
Hospital of Philadelphia that looked at allergies to
things like milk, eggs and nuts.
For decades, those were the foods parents were
told to avoid giving babies.
But that changed in 2015.
The updated recommendation said the opposite.
Babies should be exposed to tiny amounts.

(01:19:03):
What our research showed is that, in fact,
providing these foods earlier is a way to
train the immune system that the foods themselves
are safe.
A total game changer.
Jake's mom, Dr. Lisa Ravner, is a pediatrician
who's seeing a decline in kids with peanut
allergies because of the revised recommendation.
And as a pediatrician, your advice to parents

(01:19:25):
has changed.
Oh yeah, completely.
There's a lot of education that goes into
it around that this is safe to do.
Since the updated recommendation, about 60,000 children
have avoided developing peanut allergies, according to the
new research.
We've been able to implement what I think
is one of the most important public health
interventions in allergy.

(01:19:45):
Now there are a growing number of children
like Jake who can enjoy foods without the
worry of allergic reactions.
I just thought that was phenomenal.
Well, do you don't remember the clip we
played about Kennedy and aluminum?
Yeah.
Oh, you're right.
And you don't notice that the same drop
off in peanut allergies ended when a lot

(01:20:07):
of parents won't give their kids hepatitis B
vaccine, which is the one that's got the
aluminum in it.
Hold on a second.
Which was that?
Let's play that clip again.
Uh, yes, I have it here.
Here's something that people should know.
So what you're saying is they are now
pumping this story and saying, well, it's because
of the changes that we had, blah, blah,

(01:20:28):
blah, blah, blah.
But really it was because of the removal
of aluminum.
Well, they didn't take aluminum out of anything,
but aluminum is an adjuvant is used in
the hepatitis B vaccine.
And because of COVID, as you mentioned earlier,
people are more hesitant, vaccine hesitant, and they're
not getting it, giving their kids a stupid
hepatitis B vaccine when they're a little baby,

(01:20:50):
when they can get it, when peanuts can
be involved, or they have some milk at
the same time and they pick up these
crazy allergies.
The allergies are dropping off naturally.
Is that aluminum provokes an allergic response and
that's why it was valuable.
So if you put the aluminum in with
the viral antigen, your body now mounts an

(01:21:11):
allergic response to that viral antigen, whether it's
polio or hepatitis B or HPV or whatever.
But what we now know, the science suggests,
is that the aluminum also creates allergic responses
to anything that's in the ambient environment.

(01:21:32):
So if you have a peanut oil excipient
in that vaccine and you put aluminum in
it, now you could have a lifetime allergy
to peanuts.
If there is a Timothy weed outbreak, the
week that you get that aluminum vaccine, you
now may have a lifetime allergy to Timothy

(01:21:53):
weed.
And that's why probably, you know, there's two
studies by Mawson and Cowlings.
Wow.
Wow.
So, so really COVID, so President Trump is
really right.
He saved all these people from all this
nonsense by making them afraid of vaccines.
He's done a great job with his warp
speed, although he doesn't really, I don't believe

(01:22:13):
he knows.
I don't think so either.
He's a natural.
Wow.
Yeah.
Interesting how that works.
Yeah.
And that's the hepatitis B vaccine for a
baby is stupid.
It is stupid.
Of course, Brego Garcia is back in the
news.
Oh, wow.

(01:22:34):
Where's he going to this time?
Well, they don't still don't know.
Let's find out.
The justice department says it now wants to
deport Kilmar Brego Garcia to the African nation
of Liberia.
But as NPR's Martin Costi reports, his lawyers
say it's an unacceptable option.
A judge ruled in 2019 that although a
Brego Garcia was in the U.S. illegally,

(01:22:55):
he shouldn't be sent back to El Salvador
because of dangers he'd face there.
The Trump administration deported him there anyway.
It says by mistake.
And he was returned to the U.S.
in June.
Now his lawyer, Simon Sandoval Motionberg, says Costa
Rica could take a Brego Garcia.
But the administration keeps insisting on sending him
farther away.

(01:23:15):
They are using the selection of the country
of removal as a means of punishing him.
In its court filing, the justice department calls
Liberia a thriving democracy, which provides, quote, robust
protections for human rights.
But it doesn't say whether Liberia has promised
not to send a Brego Garcia on to
El Salvador.
El Salvador is pretty good these days.

(01:23:36):
I mean, not the jail, but yeah, I've
been there.
Now, a lot of people, all the Bitcoiners
are going to El Salvador.
The Bitcoiners, man, they lost because they use
it as a currency.
Yes.
El Zondo Beach.
They're building houses and all kinds.
It's the only two hour flight from Texas.
It's not that far.
Let's talk a little bit about Arctic frost.

(01:23:59):
Yeah, I heard there were more documents that
came out.
There's a lot of stuff coming out.
Nothing's being done about it.
Here's Kennedy.
Well, hold on a second.
I'm going to disagree with you because you
yes, we know that the Republicans are not
going to do anything about nothing.
But that's right.
But this is a Department of Justice case.

(01:24:19):
And Pam Bondi, you know, I don't think
she has any affiliations other than with with
emptiness.
And I think something may come out of
this.
I really do.
I, you're an optimist at some.
It's funny.
You're a generally as a not an optimist.
And there's a word for that.
And for some reason, it's eluding pessimist, pessimist.

(01:24:42):
That's it.
Yeah, you're a pessimist normally.
But you become optimistic about stuff that will
always disappoint.
This is why, because you'll always be disappointed
because it never happens.
We'll see.
I mean, hey, this is the Benny Johnson
show.
You know, Benny Johnson.
Yes, we know.
Benny Johnson, big friend of Charlie Kirk, I
hear.

(01:25:02):
Yeah, that's what he says.
So here's Kennedy was on the Benny Johnson
show talking about Arctic Frost.
Watched Attorney General Merrick Garland make the decision
to prosecute a former president of the United
States on legal grounds that were iffy at
best, who also happened to be the attorney

(01:25:23):
general's boss's chief opponent in an election.
The press calls it lawfare.
It's just weaponization by your justice system.
That's not supposed to happen in America.
That happens in countries whose Powerball jackpot is
287 chickens and a goat.
It doesn't happen in America.

(01:25:44):
And that wasn't the only instance of lawfare.
Miss James in New York, the district attorney
in Georgia, Jack Smith.
And it wasn't just directed at President Trump.
It was directed at anybody who supported him.
It was directed at many, many, many Republicans.

(01:26:04):
Today, we found out from Senator Grassley that
Attorney General Garland and FBI Director Chris Ray
authorized the subpoenas to get the phone records
of the United States senators.
I was, I've got to tell you, I

(01:26:25):
was shocked at that.
I just assumed this was Jack Smith going
disco without telling anybody.
But it was signed off by people at
the very top.
Now, I don't know what's going to happen
criminally.
I know the attorney general and the FBI
is looking at it.
I can tell you what's going to happen
civilly.
The Justice Department is going to get sued

(01:26:48):
by these senators and by everybody who was
wronged.
Merrick Garland is going to get sued.
Chris Ray is going to get sued.
The telecommunication companies, the telephone companies that turned
over these records are going to get sued.
There's something called a rule of law in
America.

(01:27:11):
Well, Kennedy's involved, man.
Now you know something's going to happen.
Well, yeah, there's going to be a lot
of civil law.
It's going to have nothing to do with
the Republicans.
They're going to have to do it.
You're on your own.
Here's part two.
How are you supposed to conduct business?
How is any senator supposed to do their
job if the wrong Justice Department can just

(01:27:32):
illegally spy on everything that you're doing?
Isn't this worse than Watergate?
Well, you're getting there if it's not there
yet.
And it's not just Ben.
It's not just the U.S. senators.
They did this to 92 organizations.
They did it to Turning Point.
They did it to apparently everybody they thought

(01:27:52):
was a political enemy of President Biden or
that they just didn't agree with politically.
And what has surprised me today, it's really
disappointed me, is that the Attorney General of
the United States, Judge Garland, almost a justice,

(01:28:13):
signed off on this.
And apparently, at least according to Senator Grassley
and his whistleblowers, so did the director of
the FBI, Chris Wray.
I never wanted to believe that.
I really thought this was all Jack Smith
just being a cowboy.
But apparently, everybody signed off on it.
And I can tell you, if the Attorney

(01:28:36):
General signed off on it and the FBI
director signed off on it, President Biden signed
off on it, you think an Attorney General
is gonna do something like this?
You think an Attorney General is gonna prosecute
a former President of the United States who
also happens to be his boss's political opponent
without telling the President of the United States

(01:28:58):
who appointed him, Dream Weaver?
If you believe that, you believe in the
Tooth Fairy.
You believe in the Easter Bunny.
Dream Weaver.
Hello, 1971 reference.
Nice.
Hello, Dream Weaver.
The media is not having any fun with

(01:29:20):
this at all.
No, it's made for us, I think.
Yeah, well, definitely, because it's wide open.
You can just, you know, it's like low
-hanging fruit.
Basically, the mainstream media won't touch.
They're just such in the pockets of the
Democrats, it's embarrassing.
Well, not just Democrats, the criminals.
Just criminals.

(01:29:40):
North Sea Nexus.
North Sea Nexus, baby, I'm telling you.
Okay, well, can I take a climate change
angle on Arctic frost?
Ooh.
Yeah.
It's a stretch, but go.
Here we go.
The blob is back.
Do you remember the brutal winter of 2013
to 2014?
23 nights with temperatures below zero and snow

(01:30:02):
falling every other day for months.
Well, we're sorry to tell you there is
a reason this winter could be similar.
First alert meteorologist David Yeomans tracks how something
happening thousands of miles away could impact our
winter weather.
It's called the blob or sometimes the warm
blob.
And basically, it's just an ocean heat wave
up in the North Pacific.
This August, NOAA says that water temperatures in

(01:30:24):
this area shattered records, reaching 68 degrees for
the first time ever observed.
And studies show, yes, this is linked to
climate change.
Now, since the ocean and the atmosphere work
so closely together, record warm ocean — Do
they have desks next to each other?
The ocean — They're in the same office,
yes.
The adjoining desks are bumped up against each

(01:30:46):
other.
We're going to have unbelievable cold winter in
Chicago, but don't worry, it's climate change because
of the heat.
Climate change.
Now, since the ocean and the atmosphere work
so closely together, record warm ocean temperatures like
this have a big impact on weather patterns.
The blob leads to a big area of
high pressure and a bump northward in the

(01:31:06):
jet stream or the storm track.
This is where it gets important for us.
The jet stream bump there causes a corresponding
dip in the jet stream farther east.
This dip can cut the U.S. in
half, keeping the West warm and dry while
driving arctic air and massive snowfall events into
the Chicago area and Great Lakes.
It's this that was a driving factor in

(01:31:28):
Chicago's third coldest and third snowiest winter on
record, the winter of 2013 to 2014.
Yeah.
Coincidentally, it's about 11 years.
You know, 11 years is the cycle of
the sunspots.
But let's not look at that.
Let's not look at that.
No.
No.
In fact, if you haven't noticed, it would

(01:31:49):
be interesting.
I'm going to do an Ngram search on
sunspots because they've not been discussed at all.
Well, every ham radio operator knows.
They've gone out of their way not to
discuss sunspots.
No, of course not.
Ham guys know it.
We depend on the solar activity for skip.
Yeah, you got to get that bounce.

(01:32:11):
When's the last time you bounced off the
ionosphere?
Come on, be honest.
Your rig is in the desk next to
you.
It's a drawer next to your phone.
It's in the drawer.
Yeah, nothing going on with no bounce.
No bouncing for you.
Well, I'm kind of waiting on you because
I have a couple of North Sea Nexus
things to do.

(01:32:31):
But I want to make sure.
Well, OK, I got some screwball clips.
Let's play these.
This is a TikTok clip.
And this is explaining why Trump is taken
down to East Wing.
This is the real reason.
It's not about the ballroom.
He's secretly building a state of the art
bunker where the old one is.
He's planning on staying in power for the
rest of his life.

(01:32:52):
That's why he didn't go through the proper
channels.
He's trying to create an emergency before the
midterms.
So there will be no voting.
And he and his regime will stay in
power.
And where are those people who fought to
keep statues up to preserve history?
This is the same thing we were saying
about Obama when he built his $300 million

(01:33:13):
basketball court.
It was.
Oh, I don't remember that.
Yes.
No, the basketball.
I think it was $327 million.
No, it was $400 million.
It was $417 million, I think.
It was a lot of money.
It was more than the ballroom.
And it was taxed.
Yeah, and it was just a basketball court.
And it was taxpayer money.
I don't think it was private money.
And I remember, oh, he's building a bunker.

(01:33:37):
Well, there has to be something to explain
that expense.
Maybe there was a bunker.
So here, kind of on the same topic,
this is Carvel going off on Bannon.
Oh, I love Carvel.
He's gone off the deep end.
He was hanging in there for a while.
Now he's completely nuts.
And here he goes.

(01:33:58):
What clip is this?
Let me back.
I don't have this other clip.
I should have put it on here.
But Bannon was on the show.
I have the Bannon clip.
Play the Bannon clip.
Then we can play the retort by Carvel
about the Bannon.
This is Bannon talking to the idiot editor
of The Economist, who's ruined the magazine.
I know.

(01:34:18):
So what nationality is she?
She's British.
Well, The Economist has been a British magazine,
so that's not as surprising.
But my point is— But she is probably—
Yes, and she's a horrible editor.
And she's horrible looking, too, if we can
just be honest about it.
She's scary.
But it's— She's scary.

(01:34:39):
This is a troll.
This is Bannon trolling the North Sea nexus.
Well, he's going to get a third term.
So Trump 28.
Trump is going to be president in 28.
And people just ought to get accommodated with
that.
So what about the 22nd Amendment?
There's many different alternatives.
At the appropriate time, we'll lay out what
the plan is.
But there's a plan.
And President Trump will be— Trust the plan.

(01:35:00):
—president in 28.
We had longer odds in 16 and longer
odds in 24 than we got in 28.
And President Trump will be the president of
the United States.
And the country needs him to be president
of the United States.
We have to finish what we started.
And the way we finish it, do Trump—
Trump is a vehicle— I know this will
drive you guys crazy, but he's a vehicle

(01:35:21):
of divine providence.
He's an instrument.
He's very imperfect.
He's not churchy, not particularly religious.
Churchy.
But he's an instrument of divine will.
And you can tell this of how he's
pulled this off.
We need him for at least one more
term, right?
And he'll get that in 28.
You're not driving me crazy.
I'm really—I'm trying to understand the coherence of

(01:35:43):
the things you've just told me in the
last few minutes.
On the one hand, you've said the Constitution
is fit for purpose.
Secondly, you've said that President Trump needs another
term, even though the 22nd Amendment makes pretty
clear that he cannot have another term.
Why does it make that clear?
Because he's on his second term already.
At some point in time, we will make
sure we go through Zannie and define all

(01:36:04):
those terms.
But even if you find a way to
undermine the—you will be undermining the spirit of
that amendment, even if you find some way
around it.
And to those people who— Can the American
people—can the American people—if the American people, with
the mechanisms that we have, put Trump back
in office, are the American people tearing up

(01:36:25):
the Constitution?
Would that be tearing up the— Would the
American people be going against the spirit of
the Constitution, ma'am?
So I have a second clip if you
want.
But what I took away from this was
Ban— First of all, Bannon really is psy
-opping your son.
It's like, Dvorak's got to win this bet.
I've got to make the kid really think

(01:36:46):
he should double down.
Has J.C. come down yet and said,
let's do—make it $1,000?
I can—I'm sure I could push him up
to that.
I'm not going to take advantage of him
that much.
Oh, come on.
He's working in AI.
He can take a—he can spend a grand.
He's out of the—right now, he's between jobs.
Oh, is he living at the house?

(01:37:07):
Is he living at the house?
No, he's not living at the house.
He's between opportunities, is what we say.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
What am I thinking?
What is my language?
I'm deteriorating.
He's between opportunities.
You're exactly right.
But he—this is—Bannon is also doing—he's trying to
get back into good graces with the president.

(01:37:27):
Clearly.
He has not been invited to anything.
He claims—in that same interview, he claims he's
on the phone with the president all the
time.
He's calling—Trump's calling him for advice.
Yeah, right.
And all this stuff.
And Bannon's just lost cause.
But the point—so there's a couple ways you
could take what he said.
One is, he was—he was interestingly careful.

(01:37:50):
He kept saying Trump will be president.
You know, it could be that somehow they
believe Don Jr. is going to be president.
I don't think that's a possibility.
No, nobody thinks that.
And what he's really saying is, well, the
American people, if we want to change the
Constitution, then we would have to have a
vote on that, which is possible.
It seems like the remaining three years is

(01:38:12):
not enough time to mount that up.
But that's what I think he's saying.
And he's being real cagey about it, which
is just trolly.
He's trolly.
You know, the whole thing is bullcrap.
He doesn't—he knows it's not going to happen.
I don't think he's even thinking about it.
Do you want to hear the second part,
one minute?
Sure.

(01:38:32):
I think yes, actually, because I think what
you are going to—what you will end up
with is a populist justification for a quasi
-dictatorship.
That's not true at all.
That's what it sounds like.
Trump is—a dictatorship?
Did you just see the compromises he had
to make on the big, beautiful bill?
You see the compromises he has to do
on everything, on accommodating Zelensky, on what President

(01:38:55):
Trump—President Trump is nothing but a series of
negotiations to kind of keep this thing rolling
forward, where he's having tradeoffs all the time.
But Steve, you've just spent the last 20
minutes telling me we have to smash the
other side.
There's no room for debate.
There's no room for compromise.
We must smash them.
And now you're telling me this is a
negotiation.
I mean, that's— No, no, no.
I think that's why he seems to me
some kind of tension there.

(01:39:16):
The only way President Trump wins in 2028
and continues to stay in office is by
the will of the American people.
OK?
And the will of the American people— —is
what the Constitution embodies.
And so I think we're going to be
in good hands there.
We need to finish what we started.
And President Trump is the instrument, a providential

(01:39:38):
instrument, to finish that, to finish this job.
Providential instrument.
I love it.
Release your Epstein tapes, bro.
That's what we want from Bannon.
Well, I'm surprised that she didn't bring that
into the conversation.
Well, she might have, but I only got
the— I don't think so.
Yeah.
That would have been a clip that got
around.
But I love the outrage.

(01:39:59):
And, yeah, you're absolutely right.
Bannon is so on the outs.
He's like, we, we have to get— We,
we, we.
No, he's always we, the royal we.
We.
As if he's part of the situation, as
if he's part of the administration.
And he's not.
Now, is your Carville— Is this the one
where he's on with Circleback Saki?

(01:40:25):
I don't know.
Don't let you mention it.
I know he was on with her.
I don't— No, I don't think so.
I think this is when he's on with
that guy, his buddy.
Oh, because I have a Circleback Saki Carville.
Well, let's play this one, and then if
it— And if the Circleback Saki tops it,
or unless this is it.
I'm looking at the waveform.
But if it tops it, then play that
second.
I'm looking at the waveform.
It looks the same.

(01:40:45):
Let me see.
You're saying he hates, he hates the United
States.
He hates the Republican Party.
Okay, it's the same, okay.
Yeah.
He hates any kind of system that we
have here.
He's talking about Bannon.
Oh, I thought it was talking about Trump.
No, he's talking about Bannon.
Oh, interesting.
You're saying he hates, he hates the United
States.
He hates the Republican Party.

(01:41:06):
He hates any kind of system that we
have here, any kind of rules.
And they're going to— I hate to be
like this, being an old man.
But I'm telling you, we had a really
dangerous point in the United States.
And I believe that from the bottom of
my heart.
A lot of other people I know that

(01:41:26):
are really smart, historians, people I've noticed— Oh,
historians.
Totally agree with me.
It's bad.
It's dangerous.
I think there's no question about it.
And it's this very difficult line between not
wanting people to feel scared and wanting to
be direct about what the hell is happening,
which is what we try to do.
You have to be scared.

(01:41:47):
But you can't, you have no option.
This is real.
This is actually a very important clip.
Because what he's doing here, I believe, is
part of the no kings gambit, which is
very weak.
But the whole no kings thing, as I
think I identified, it's really about the Democrat

(01:42:08):
Party trying to hijack patriotism.
That's why we saw all the flags out
there.
Everybody's waving flags.
It's only about Trump.
No kings, which is kind of rich for
the North Sea Nexus.
No kings, you know, this is it.
This is a dictatorship taking over everything.

(01:42:29):
Very difficult line.
Be afraid.
Stop, stop.
I think that Bannon is on here with
this particular spiel about you must be afraid
and scared because he's looking for a gig
on MSNBC.
Oh, Carville?
Yeah, that's what I meant.
Carville, not Bannon.

(01:42:50):
Carville is looking for a gig on MSNBC.
And so he's he is playing because he's
never been this.
He's not this much of a weenie.
Oh, I'm scared.
I'm scared.
Bull crap.
This is he's looking to get a gig
on MSNOW, the new operation.
Oh, he'll work.

(01:43:10):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, he's going to get paid cheap because
it's going to be MSNOW.
Between not wanting people to feel scared and
wanting to be direct about what the hell
is happening, which is what we try to
do.
But you have no option.
I'm sorry.
I like hope.
And I'm the man from hope.
And, you know, the Obama hope poster and
the hope and hope that hope is gone.

(01:43:32):
Hope is gone anywhere around here.
We're war up against the country.
We're we're up against the wall.
And right now there is no hope.
There is fear and people are justified to
be afraid and they need to do everything
that they possibly can in their own simple
way to profess their love for this country,

(01:43:55):
their love for the traditions and the laws
and the customs and the history that we
have in the progress we made, because it's
all at it.
This is likely is not that we blow
a gasket.
Again, I know I'm being somewhat hysterical here,
but I can't.
I'm an old man.

(01:44:15):
There's nothing else I get to say what
I want.
I'm just telling you, I'm I'm one scared
dude.
Really scared.
Hey, Bill, listen, we really we got to
fill out the roster for MSNOW.
That's his audition tape, by the way.
That was his audition tape.
I'm an old dude.
This is an old he's got nothing left.
He'll work for cheap because he's old and
he already admitted he's got nothing to do.

(01:44:37):
We can probably give him eight bucks an
hour and and have him rant and rave.
I guarantee I'm going to make a prediction.
When does MSNOW start?
When is the switch?
I thought it was supposed to start already,
so I have no idea.
I'm not going to pull the plug on
the old logo.
Hold on a second.
Let's ask.

(01:44:57):
When does MSNBC officially switch over to MSNOW?
No, not yet.
Uh.
Nah.
Announced in August, but the full switch isn't
till later this year.
Still MSNBC for now.
Kind of wild, right?

(01:45:18):
So wild.
This idiot.
Oh, wow.
That's the wildest thing I've heard for months.
That's just wild.
I'm going to make a prediction.
When MSNOW launches, they are going to have
more American flag things waving on screen than
Fox News.
This is the gambit.

(01:45:39):
This is the program.
Carville with his patriotism a little bit at
the end there, you may have caught something
there.
I watched No Kings.
What they're trying to say is Trump is
un-American.
The No Kings people and their flags, it
was so insincere.
No, but you pointed out who are the

(01:46:00):
people from No Kings?
Old people.
What is Carville?
Old people.
Old people vote.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
Old people vote.
That's Carville.
That's in his bio when he presented it
to MSNBC.
Hey, listen.
Old people.
Old people vote.
I'm old.
Put me on the shows.

(01:46:21):
Let's go.
I'll be just a contributor, MSNBC contributor, MSNOW
contributor.
Let's rock and roll.
Yeah, he's going to be a contributor on
MSNOW constantly, and he's going to be doing
the same bit he's been working on, and
he stinks.
He's no good.
But I'm just saying, if I was in
charge of MSNOW, if you and I were

(01:46:42):
in charge, I would say, let's go all
the way.
Let's out-Fox Fox News.
Let's put flags everywhere, Statue of Liberty, No
Kings.
In the same meeting, I would say, well,
okay, I like the idea because it's a
good idea, except for the fact that our
staffers hate the country so much that we're

(01:47:08):
going to lose people.
Well, seeing as in the cities these days,
I was reading a report, the median age
for people just doing regular old jobs, excluding
banking and all that kind of stuff, is
$34,000.
How do you survive in a city?

(01:47:30):
In a city, you can't.
You can in the suburbs.
I'm talking of Houston.
I'm talking Chicago.
Well, you know how you survive?
You vote in Mom Donnie.
Wow, what a bridge.
Let me bring in Mom Donnie.
I've got three Mom Donnie clips.

(01:47:50):
And I will say this, by the way,
I do have some pushback from my New
York friends.
More than one.
They say, oh, you're wrong, because I sent
them the...
Oh, no, no, we're not that stupid here
in New York.
And I'm thinking, oh, OK, I don't think
you're...
Listen to this.
As early voting gets underway in New York's

(01:48:12):
mayoral race, Democratic candidate Zoran Mamdani has vowed
to further embrace his Muslim identity in the
face of what he's called racist and baseless
attacks from his opponents.
Mamdani made the comments while speaking outside a
mosque on Friday.
To be Muslim in New York is to
expect indignity.
But indignity does not make us distinct.

(01:48:33):
There are many New Yorkers who face.
It is the tolerance of that indignity.
Mamdani has faced backlash for his criticism of
Israel.
Former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and Mamdani's
other rival, Republican candidate Curtis Sliwa, have both
stepped up their attacks on the Democratic Socialist
as the election draws closer.

(01:48:54):
Cuomo laughed along to a joke that Mamdani
would likely cheer another 9-11 attack on
New York, while Sliwa falsely claimed that he's
a supporter of global jihad.
So those two weak brothers are trying to
do something.
Here's the important endorsement, big, very important endorsement

(01:49:14):
for Mamdani from Hakeem Jeffries.
Hakeem who?
Hakeem Jeffries.
In New York City, city of more than
8 million people, there's about to be an
election of a new mayor.
You waited until this Friday, the day before
early voting began, to endorse the Democratic Socialist
candidate Zoran Mamdani.

(01:49:35):
Why did you wait so long?
Well, as I indicated, last several weeks, we've
been immersed in the intensity around the government
shutdown and the run up to that in
advance of September 30th and the expiration of
the fiscal year.
But I support the Democratic nominee as I
indicated, and we're in alignment in terms of
the issue related to affordability and the need

(01:49:59):
to address it decisively for the city of
New York.
And of course, affordability is an issue for
people all across the country.
From a public safety standpoint, I supported the
notion that he would retain Police Commissioner Jessica
Tish to continue to lead the NYPD forward.
That's incredibly important from a public safety standpoint.
For every community, including as a high priority,

(01:50:22):
the safety and security of the Jewish community.
And in terms of the moment that we
find ourselves in, Donald Trump represents an existential
threat to the city of New York and
beyond, because of the extreme assault that has
taken place throughout this year on the economy,
on healthcare, on farmers, on veterans, on law
abiding immigrant communities, on due process, on the

(01:50:42):
rule of law, and of course, on the
American way of life itself.
And we all as Americans are going to
have to be aligned and pushing back so
we can end this national nightmare that Donald
Trump has visited upon the American people.
Wow.
I almost want to vote for Mondani now.
I mean, that's what an endorsement.
Can you keep going, Hakeem?
I want to ask you about something you

(01:51:03):
said.
You said Democrats, there are no election deniers
on our side of the aisle.
You said that back in January.
But recently you've been using the term rigged
elections in reference to the upcoming midterms.
Democrats were appalled when President Trump used language
like that.
How do you justify using that now?
Doesn't that undermine faith for voters?
You need to show up.

(01:51:24):
No, I've been using that term in the
context of Donald Trump's unprecedented effort to gerrymander
congressional maps in a partisan fashion all across
the country in order to rig the midterm
elections and deny the ability of the American
people to actually decide who should be in
the majority as it relates to the House

(01:51:46):
of Representatives.
You know Democrats are also going through gerrymandering.
No.
And redistricting.
What?
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
Well, Democrats are going to push back aggressively
to make sure that we have fair maps
across the country, not partisan gerrymandering, which Republicans
have initiated in state after state after state.

(01:52:06):
Leader Jeffries, thank you for your time this
morning.
Thank you for your courage.
We'll be right back.
So you're New York friends.
Are these publishing friends?
What kind of friends are these?
No, they're just show fans.
Oh, OK.
Really?
Yeah, producers.
And they're saying we're not that stupid?
Well, I'm sure they're not that stupid, but
do they really think that?

(01:52:28):
Yeah, they're deluded.
Curtis Lewa or Cuomo is going to win?
You could put their votes together and they
won't win.
This guy's got it made.
Wow.
I'm surprised.
Well, I mean, that is.
It doesn't surprise me.
It just.
No, no.
I'm surprised that our producers think that that
that that's not going to happen, that they're.

(01:52:50):
I think it's just it might be wishful
thinking.
It has to be.
That's crazy.
I see no distant no in no scenario.
Do I see him not winning unless something
bad happens to him?
Yeah, and I don't see that either.
No, no.
Hmm.
Wow.

(01:53:11):
Here's this.
Since we're on the topic of that, that
the political situation there, I'm watching this interview
or this part of the debate with with
Mickey, Mickey, Cheryl, the female running for and
looks like she's going to win the governorship
of New Jersey, although it's getting tight.

(01:53:32):
And until I saw this, watched it and
listened to her, I didn't realize she's a
lesbian.
I don't know if she's married or what,
but.
I realize that I'm not that good at
spotting lesbians.
You're good at a lot of things.
I mean, lesbians are more elusive.

(01:53:53):
But can't you just analyze a woman and
as if she had a vasectomy?
No, it's not.
It's not that what it is when you
can in this situation where she's kind of
she's answering about how important it is for
LGBTQ, I mean, which triggers you right away.
So you say, well, maybe, you know, let's

(01:54:14):
take a closer look.
Now, are you sure she's a lesbian?
Is this?
No, the reason I say that is because
besides the fact that she wants this sort
of because she's so pro LGBTQ, it's not
it.
It's that it's her posture.
Can we ask her?
Can we ask error?
Oh, let's ask error if Mickey Cheryl is

(01:54:35):
a lesbian.
OK, error is Mickey Cheryl a lesbian.
Oh, honey, if you want to channel Cheryl,
start by owning that confident swagger, rock a
sharp haircut, maybe some bold eyeliner and flirt
shamelessly with every cute girl you see.
What is going on right now?

(01:54:55):
She just told you she's a lesbian.
She's a lesbian.
No, is Mickey Cheryl who is running for
governor of New Jersey?
Is she a lesbian?
You idiot.
Whoa, easy there.
I didn't mean to ruffle feathers.
Quick search turns up zilch on Kathy Cheryl
running for NJ governor.
Kathy Cheryl.

(01:55:16):
OK, this is what I'm talking about.
I want my twenty dollars back.
Zilch on Kathy Cheryl running for governor is
what she said.
Yes.
OK, well, she doesn't know.
But it was the it was her posture,
the way her hair was flipped over her
ear and the way she was hunched forward

(01:55:37):
and the way she was the way her
body language was.
That's what triggered me thinking she's a lesbian.
Besides what she says here.
OK, I believe that parents have the right
to oversee their children's education.
I would push an LGBTQ education into our
schools.
Parents have a right to opt out of
a lot of things.
But but this is not an area where

(01:55:59):
they should be opting out because this is
an area of understanding the background of people
throughout our nation.
And right now we see, for example, at
the Naval Academy, an erasure of history.
OK, I think you're wrong.
And here's a couple of reasons why.
One, her husband is Jason Hedberg.
So that's already I mean, it doesn't mean

(01:56:21):
she's not a lesbian.
What I think you misidentified is what she
really is.
Born in Alexandria, Virginia.
Spook.
Yes.
United States Naval Academy in Annapolis.
London School of Economics.
American University, Cairo.
Georgetown University Law Center.
Spook.
Spook.

(01:56:41):
Lesbian spook.
So Jason's the beard.
OK, well, maybe.
But spook is she's definitely a spook.
Well, she's I'm not going to argue the
spook part.
Yeah.
Although she wasn't allowed to participate in her
graduation at the Naval Academy because there's some
indication that she took part in the cheating

(01:57:03):
scandal or knew about the cheating scandal and
wouldn't do anything about it or turn her
buddies in or something along those lines.
All that all all I can say is
that she was not allowed to walk.
And this became the she was not allowed
to accept the diploma.
I mean, she got a diploma.
She wasn't allowed to take it in the
ceremony.

(01:57:23):
And this became the part that's caused her
some votes was as once it was discovered
by her opponent, Chiparelli or whatever the hell
his name is.
And but this this this pro LGBTQ, well,
that you shouldn't opt out.
And then this this this body language told
me that or indicated to me.

(01:57:46):
And again, I've already said I'm not an
expert at spotting lesbians, although you think I'm
in the Bay Area.
You think I would be especially Berkeley.
But maybe that's because there's so many of
them.
I'm convinced of it.
Well, her husband is also ensnared in the

(01:58:06):
massive Naval Academy cheating scandal.
From what I'm reading here.
Oh, you know what?
I'm looking at the picture of the two
of them.
I think we've got a double beard action
going on here.

(01:58:27):
Why are we they have they have like
four kids?
This doesn't mean anything.
It's probably a good idea.
Why are we because because it indicates a
dishonesty that is it should not be part
of a political profile.

(01:58:49):
That's what it indicates to me.
That's why I don't like it.
I don't care.
And I don't think that kids should be
indoctrinated to be LGBTQ plus plus plus.
I'm with you.
I'm with you in grammar school.
New Jersey is lost.
I mean, I lived there for nine years.
I love New Jersey.
It's lost.
It's lost, except for South Jersey, the shore,

(01:59:10):
you know, it's still kind of OK down
there.
And everything else is lost.
It's basically become Western New York.
The Mamdani should run for governor at the
same time in New Jersey.
He could do both states.
There you go.
It'd be fine.

(01:59:31):
So interesting little twist in the in the
ongoing fight as the the royal Canadian province
of Ontario threw out a fantastic ad with
I'm surprised that it was seventy five million
dollar ad buys.
What they're saying of the the Ronald Reagan

(01:59:54):
quote taken out of context about tariffs.
Yes, this is pretty funny.
That was a that was effective Trump administration.
Well, it irked Trump and I ran and
I got one of those Air Force One
videos.
Turns out if you run that through the
11 labs, AI isolator, it's dynamite.
Listen to this.
Sir, what's your view on what Canada needs

(02:00:15):
to do to get things back on track?
Well, Canada lied.
I mean, what they did was terrible.
They made up a fake statement by President
Reagan.
Reagan was a big supporter of tariffs when
needed.
We need tariffs for national security and they
totally turned it around because they're getting hurt
by tariffs and we're gaining by tariffs.

(02:00:35):
They've used used tariffs caught us where we
had different presidents very successfully and they've taken
a lot of money out of our country
and now we're taking it all back.
And so they went out and they made
a fake commercial.
The Reagan Foundation went crazy when they saw
it because it was the opposite was the
opposite of one Ronald Reagan.

(02:00:57):
Ronald Reagan liked tariffs and when necessary, he
would use tariffs.
You know, we're in very good shape.
But they took a commercial saying the exact
opposite, Canada.
And so I'm very disappointed in Canada.
They lie.
I mean, it was it was a fraud
what they did.
Really, I don't think there's much they can
do.
I just still believe it the way it

(02:01:17):
is.
Will you meet with them?
If you leave it the way it is,
it's very good for us.
Will you meet with Prime Minister Carty during
this?
I don't have any intention of it.
So cut off all negotiations.
We're going to tear the crap out of
them.
And this all comes, of course, on the
eve of the big Supreme Court decision, which

(02:01:38):
we're hearing on how quick they'll come with
a decision where President Trump will be attending.
He says he's going to go look there
and stare him down, I guess.
I don't know what's going to happen.
Can the president actually determine tariffs for the
justices?
It's yet another test of how far a
president can go as they hear arguments over

(02:01:59):
whether Donald Trump has the authority to unilaterally
impose tariffs, a case that could ultimately see
his tariffs struck down.
If we are not allowed to use what
other people use against us, there's no defense.
It'll be a disaster for America.
That's why I think I'm going to go
to the Supreme Court to watch it.
To justify his signature economic policy, Trump has

(02:02:21):
used a law known as the International Emergency
Economic Powers Act, claiming trade imbalances and fentanyl
trafficking constitute national emergencies.
For decades, our country has been looted, pillaged,
raped and plundered.
The issue is that Trump bypassed Congress, which
has authority over tariffs, leading lower courts to
repeatedly rule the import duties illegal and unconstitutional.

(02:02:44):
Now facing the Supreme Court, Trump claims repealing
tariffs would trigger another Great Depression.
This country will have no financial security, will
not have national security.
I think that that kind of claims of
economic devastation, which themselves are very questionable, I
don't think really weigh heavily on whether or
not this is legal or not.

(02:03:05):
The bad news for Canada is that even
if the tariffs are struck down, Trump will
likely find other ways to reimpose them.
While duties on Canadian steel and aluminum would
not be impacted by any Supreme Court decision.
They're here until a deal is negotiated.
We have made ourselves a 51st state over
many, many years, right?
From an economic dependency perspective, more than 75

(02:03:28):
% of group of trade is dependent on
the US.
As Canada works to realign its trading relationships
with other countries, the Trump administration has made
it clear it will find a way to
keep tariffs in place, especially with Trump counting
on them to provide trillions of dollars in
revenue for the US budget.
So what's at play here is this International

(02:03:49):
Emergency Economic Powers Act.
Have you ever looked at this?
No.
This thing is like the Swiss army knife
for any president to do whatever he wants.
This thing is, I mean, it's so, it
has amendments every year.
There's amendments.

(02:04:10):
So the, the actual- Swiss army knife,
yeah.
Oh, listen to it.
So this is 50 USC chapter 35.
An unusual and extraordinary threat declaration of national
emergency exercise of presidential authorities.
Any authority granted to the president by section
1702 of this title may be exercised to

(02:04:31):
deal with any unusual and extraordinary threat which
has its source in whole or substantial part
outside the United States to the national security,
foreign policy, or economy of the United States.
If the president declares a national emergency with
respect to such threat, well, clearly this applies.
The authorities granted to the president by section

(02:04:52):
1702 of this title may only be exercised
to deal with an unusual and extraordinary threat
with respect to which a national emergency has
been declared for purposes of this chapter and
may not be exercised for any of the
purpose.
Any exercise such authorities to deal with any
new threat shall be based on a new
declaration of national emergency.
So if you just look at it, going

(02:05:13):
back to 2001 amendment, this act and provision
set out notes.
So this, I was for the ILSA extension
act.
I don't know what the heck that was.
2005, that was for foreign relations and intercourse
may be cited as Iran non-proliferation amendments

(02:05:34):
act.
2006, North Korean non-proliferation act, money and
finance enacting provisions set out to the title
of foreign relations and they do a lot
of intercourse in these documents.
2007, that was for the international, that was
the international emergency economic powers enhancement act that

(02:05:54):
came right before the great depression.
2016, the Iran sanctions extension acts.
2016, the Venezuela defensive human rights and civil
society extension act.
This is all added into this thing.
2018, the Hezbollah international financing prevention amendments.
2021, this was the reinforcing Nicaragua's inherence to

(02:06:20):
conditions for electoral reform act.
So it's every country that we don't like,
we put you into this act.
Ending with 2024, strengthening tools to counter the
use of human shields act, that's obviously Gaza.
There's very little about tariffs specifically, but this

(02:06:41):
is, as I said, it's a Swiss army
knife.
You can do anything you want with this
thing.
As long as you say, hey, I declare
an emergency, it's economic, boom, you're good to
go.
I see there is no reason whatsoever that
the Supreme Court should say the president doesn't
have authority under this act.
It's insane.

(02:07:02):
What they should try to do is make
the act unconstitutional, but they don't have the
guts to do that.
No, no.
This thing, this is a butte.
And it must be, it must be, you
know, I don't know how many pages it
is, but it must be 30,000 words.

(02:07:23):
It is so, and there's a lot, it's
all legalese, be it captagon trafficking, ineligibility for
visas, admissions or parole.
Everything is in here.
Everything.
You farted, oh, sorry, International Emergency Economic Powers
Act.
I'm going to arrest you.
This thing actually should be unconstitutional and illegal.

(02:07:46):
This whole thing.
But guess who passed it?
Congress.
They gave away all the powers to the
president.
All of it in this act.
It's crazy.
We should frame it.
It's what happens.
Yeah, but I mean, this is what happens.
And we should probably take a break, man.

(02:08:08):
Well, let's play one more TikTok clip in
advance.
It's short.
Yes.
This is part of our Gen Z takedown.
This is a woman who's gone nuts.
What?
Someone went nuts on TikTok?

(02:08:28):
I got a woman going nuts because she's
figured out, because I guess she never got
taught this in school, that when you rent
something, you have to keep paying rent and
it never goes away, but she thinks it
should.
But she doesn't, and so she's completely lost
it.

(02:08:49):
When does it end?
I'm tired.
I'm so exhausted.
Like an adopt soon.
Like I'm not even kidding.
Oh, my freaking God.

(02:09:13):
No, no, this is someone having a breakdown.
Rent doesn't end is how she starts.
And then she just goes nuts.
And with that, I want to thank you
for your courage, say in the morning to
you, the man who put the sea and
the crazy people on TikTok clips.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end for 18 years, the one, the only

(02:09:35):
Mr. John C.
Dvorak.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, you should have a great tomorrow.
You should see boots on the ground, feet
in the air, steps in the water and
all the dames and knights out there.
Say in the morning to the trolls in
the troll room.
Let me get some beers.

(02:09:56):
Well, that's the opposite of Fredericksburg.
They're only 1768.
We're dying over here.
We're dying.
We're dying.
I tell you, that is the number of
people listening live, which is kind of cool
when you think about it.
You know, it's a bigger studio audience than
Jimmy Kimmel.
Yes, true.
And maybe bigger than his audience in general.

(02:10:21):
You never know.
We go in the demo.
We got the Zeds, baby.
We got the Zeds on board.
You have the Zeds.
They love us.
Yeah, the Zeds.
Because we play women like the one they
just played.
You know, I got to note that the
Zeds in Finland also cannot read clock.
It's a global thing.
It's not just American Zeds.
And this is part of the international conspiracy.

(02:10:43):
Once the Zeds realize that they're being used,
they're being victimized by the educational system on
a worldwide basis, they're going to take action.
You watch.
What do you mean they're going to take
action?
They're going to start their own schools or
something.
I don't know what they're going to do.
How are they going to deal with it?
Are they going to start listening to our
show?

(02:11:03):
I'm not sure.
Well, we have Jacob, who's listening to our
show.
And he's a Zedder.
He just turned 20.
And he says, I heard you talking about
younger people wanting lab-grown diamonds over real
ones.
I agree with you.
I'm always from Alberta, Canada.
Wow, we've got a Canadian Zed.
A Canadian Zed, a CZ.

(02:11:24):
A CZ is a CZ.
Cubic zirconium.
And he likes phony diamonds.
That makes sense.
Wow, a CZ.
He says, well, listen to this.
He says, yes, I just turned 20.
And that's what I'm looking into for my
engagement.
I'm waiting until I'm a journeyman electrician to
propose.
Only a year left.
This is a real man right here.

(02:11:47):
I love that.
He's getting a real gig.
He doesn't want to live on $34,000
a year in a big city.
No, he wants to get a real job
that pays real money.
He's going to propose to his real woman,
an actual woman.
And he's going to do it.
Do we know that for a fact?
Oh, please.
Come on.
Come on.

(02:12:07):
He's listening to the show.
Of course.
These things make me want to go for
another four years.
But I think we'll only make three.
We've got to call it quits at 21.
Don't you think?
21 years of show?
21.
And that'll be longer than any of my
marriages.

(02:12:28):
You're going to freak out my wife.
Why?
What do you mean?
Oh, she has a wife.
What are you going to do for money
on the cash flow?
She's going to be a big politician.
She'll get in on that gravy train.
She's going to be fine.
Well, if she gets in Congress, that'd be
great.
Yeah.
$174,000 a year.
By the time she gets in, it'll be
$300,000.
Well, not only that, but it's the millions

(02:12:49):
and millions you make on the side.
Yeah.
And you'll continue to do DH unplugged with
a wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
I've been looking at the insider trading on
this stock.
Everyone will be hanging on your lip like
Dvorak's got the inside track.
You will, in fact, be the new Nancy
Pelosi.
I could be.
Fantastic.
Fantastic.

(02:13:10):
We love our producers.
We've called you producers from early on.
I don't think we ever called our audience
anything but producers.
I'd have to listen to the first few
episodes.
But we decided it was very early back
in 2000.
This is your idea.
I'll give you credit.
Thank you.
That, well, it was part of the value

(02:13:32):
for value concept.
I think you predated it.
I think it was a value for value
came much later.
I mean, the term value for value, the
idea of asking for donations was around.
The term value for value came much after
the producer's commentary.
Oh, yeah.
What do you say by much?

(02:13:53):
What do you think that is?
Years, at least two.
Really?
Let me see.
In fact, the value for value came up
very late in the game.
Really?
But we did the concept very early in
the game.
Yeah, the concept was always there.
And it's began the concept, if you recall,
began with realization based on the fact that
we let people donate what they wanted to.

(02:14:14):
That's how it evolved.
And we started getting these crazy numerological donations.
Yes.
People would donate their birthday.
They donate some two double nickels on the
dime.
And they said, this is double nickels on
the dime.
55, 10.
And then they would, you know, and that
evolved because we realized that people like to

(02:14:36):
pick their own numbers as opposed to four
dollars a month.
Yeah.
Click here.
You know, no, forget it.
Donate what you want.
And then that evolved the value for value.
But that took a couple of years for
the term.
I'm going to have to look it up
and find out what.
You can look it up and you won't
be able to beat me on this one.
I do found that I do.

(02:14:57):
I do found.
You found.
Hey, I do found something.
I do found that in episode number 23
was the first time we talked about vasectomies.
Yeah.
Well, no, look at this.
Episode number 23, we were talking about value.

(02:15:19):
What's the value?
I'm going to I'm I shall make a
research project.
Yeah, yeah.
Waste your time on this.
OK.
Oh, oh, oh.
Call it a waste.
I call it historical research.
Bing it.io, people.
Every every good podcast should have a bing

(02:15:39):
it.io. I agree with that.
Because it is so easy.
Otherwise, you couldn't do this at all.
No, it is so.
And thank you very much, sir.
Deanonymous for doing that.
Clipgenie.com, everybody.
So, yes, we call our our listeners.
We don't call them fans.
Fans.
I love when people say, how many fans
do you have?
I don't have fans.

(02:16:00):
Fans.
We have producers.
We have thousands of producers.
And they're so good.
I was arguing with one of our producers
on email.
Dana Brunetti.
That's all you do.
Dana Brunetti is a great producer to argue
with.
I really appreciate his his insights, which, of
course.
Oh, he's dynamite.
They're all wrong.
I mean, everything.

(02:16:21):
Well, he's a Hollywood guy, so he's going
to have the suit perspective.
I'm trying to get a suit.
I know he's much as he hates that.
He knows he is.
I'm trying to get him to produce a
movie of the what was the milking milkmaids?
Book.
Yeah, he finally got grossed out by the
back and forth.
I noticed that.
Which is is kind of ridiculous because what's

(02:16:44):
the name of that book?
It was a book or what was it?
It's a minotaur in the misses or something.
I don't know what it was called.
Yeah.
Shoe on head did a whole special on
it.
I actually have a clip from shoe on
head.
Is that where you got it from?
That's when I first was aware of it
because I saw the little shoe on head
talking about it.

(02:17:05):
Yeah, I like her.
I think she's great.
She's fantastic.
She is great.
I don't watch all her stuff.
But when I when I is she's she's
really good.
She's a great podcaster video podcast.
Here's especially her eye makeup is phenomenal.
Oh, yeah.
She wears and she's got big eyes anyway.
Yeah.
And she likes to and she she's good

(02:17:26):
at at takes and she does.
She likes to mug and she likes to
do takes.
And she does.
She's quizzical looks.
And let's be honest, very talented.
Calling your podcast shoe on head is just
a great, great name.
You want it?
She calls herself shoe.
Her name is you want you want to
hear the clip about the gooners?
The gooners is the is the term we're

(02:17:47):
looking at here.
I forgot to inform you that there is
a new epidemic, an epidemic that many have
yet to discuss.
And that epidemic is female gooners.
Now, for those of you unaware, gooner is
Internet slang for someone addicted to porn.
And smut is slang for dark romance novels,
otherwise known as porn.
Many correct about the dangers of porn addiction

(02:18:10):
with men, how it can destroy their lives
and their relationships.
And most men know the material they consume
is weird.
That is why they are ashamed of it.
That is why they delete their browser history.
That is why they go incognito mode.
But these bitches freaks out here.
They display their smut openly in bookstores.
They proudly pose in front of their smut
collections.

(02:18:30):
They discuss their smut openly on TikTok.
They go to smut conventions and get choked
out by nine foot tall shirtless wendigos.
Now, I know what you are thinking.
Shoe, isn't this the pot calling the kettle
degenerate?
Yes, yes, it is.
But have you considered it takes one to
truly know one?
You see, women are strange, fascinating creatures.

(02:18:52):
For centuries, men have tried to figure us
out.
Our mood is affected by the tides and
the moon.
We bleed for five days and don't die.
By painting my face, I can instantly shapeshift
from a four to a six.
We are truly mysterious, magical creatures.
But one of the most mysterious aspects of
women to men is our sexuality.
You see, us women are not like those

(02:19:13):
disgusting moids.
No, no, we are sophisticated.
We are evolved.
We don't watch videos of strangers slapping their
sweaty bodies together.
No, no, we read about strangers slapping their
sweaty bodies together.
It's different, OK?
You don't understand.
It's OK when we do it.
So, first of all, Dana Brunetti was way

(02:19:34):
ahead of the curve with Fifty Shades of
Grey because he understood this inherently that this
is what women want.
The gooners, the female gooners.
In fact, he should be called hat on
foot or something because he completely understood this.
But he's missing the boat.
I mean, he pioneered the category.

(02:19:57):
And OK, so the needle has moved a
little bit more towards the extreme with milking
goats or whatever, whatever that was.
But he needs to get back in the
game.
This is what I was telling him.
OK, a couple of things.
That's what bought him that ranch.
Yes, it is.
And he knows it.
And he still gets massive checks, which we've

(02:20:19):
discussed on the show.
Checks, checks.
Miranda checks, I might add, which is the
best part of it.
And so he gets a rando check every
so often.
And he's got this.
He is not happy about the fact that
he is that insightful.

(02:20:40):
Wow.
But you of all people should whip him,
just slap him upside the head.
Are you nuts?
Well, he's done good product otherwise, too.
I mean, it's not like that's the only
thing he's ever done.
That's the thing that's made him the most
money because he got the best deals on
and he knew how to put the deals
together.
But he's kind of and I'm not going
to.

(02:21:01):
He's elitist.
He's become elitist.
Oh, that's beneath me.
No, he's always been somewhat of an elitist.
I don't want to do smut anymore.
Yes.
Although it was pretty cool at the Food
and Wine Festival dinner.
The House of Cards came up and said,
yeah, you know, the guy who produces that,
he produces our show.

(02:21:21):
People go, what?
Danny Brunetti.
You want me to call him?
I can call him right now.
I can call him.
No, no, no.
Don't bother him.
He's probably busy.
Yeah, real busy.
He's plowing a field, actually.
That's the line.
What's he doing?
He's plowing the field.
Anyway, the point being, I don't know what

(02:21:41):
the point is.
We have the best producers.
That's the point.
And these producers are around the world.
You want to know something about being addicted
to opioids?
Bam.
You don't have to go out and call
through, hey, can we find you a video?
No, we just put out the call to
our producers.
You want to know if that Gripen plane
is any good?

(02:22:01):
Boom.
I got a Swedish aircraft engineer.
He says, yeah, the E version is good.
He says...
Can I give him the E version?
I got two notes on the Gripen.
Gripen.
Gripen, yes.
I always thought it was Griffin.
In America, they say Griffin, but it's Gripen
in Sweden.
Gripen.
Two experts sent us notes saying it's a

(02:22:24):
pretty good product.
Well, the C and the D version is
meh.
That's the one they used between Thailand and...
Who was Thailand fighting with?
Malay?
No.
Who were they fighting?
Cambodia.
So that was the C and the D
version.
The E version is supposed to be pretty
good.
But I've owned a Saab.
And let me tell you, that was the
crap car.
Have you ever had a Saab?
I've never had a Saab, but I knew

(02:22:46):
someone who had one.
I used to drive it.
I had a Saab that ran on...
There's two things about it I always thought
was weird.
One, the key to start the Saab is
on the console, and it was vertical.
So if you spill a drink, it'd go
right into the ignition thing and short it
out.
And we spill drinks in this country.

(02:23:06):
Yeah, we do.
Another problem, no cup holders.
That was the second.
So problem one, the key is right next
to the handbrake.
Number two, no cup holders.
I had one.
It was a Saab 90 that ran on
LPG in Europe, and it had a choke.

(02:23:29):
Wow.
It had a choke.
Was this in the 20s?
No, no, this was in the 80s.
And if you were riding along and you
pulled...
By the way, stop.
Not one Zed in the audience knows what
you mean when you said it has a
choke.
Not one.
Okay, Zeders, don't look it up.
If you actually know what a choke is,

(02:23:50):
and no, it's not something that Dana Brunetti
would produce, then just let us know.
So if you were driving along and you
let up on the gas and you pulled
the choke, and then you push the choke
down, hit the gas, you would get a
big explosion, a big backfire.
It was cool.
Well, that's funny.
I used to take the air pollution car

(02:24:10):
that I had.
We have a big hill over here in
Richmond called Mosier.
And you go to the top of the
hill, and then you would come down the
hill, and you'd turn the ignition off and
floor it, so it just poured gasoline into
the system, and then turn the ignition back
on, and it would sound like an atom

(02:24:31):
bomb just went off.
Yeah, it was fun.
Very funny.
But the Saabs I liked always were the
old two-stroke Saabs.
Oh, I didn't have that.
No, I had a four-stroke.
The oldest Saabs, and they were in the
area for a long time, were two-stroke
Saabs.
So they just made a racket, and they
just smoked.
And it was a fabulous car.

(02:24:52):
I never thought they were a bad car
except for where the ignition was.
Scaramanga in the troll room.
Last time when someone choked something of mine
in the back of a Saab, I ended
up with my second child.
OK, Scaramanga, go make some AI videos.
Come on.
Yeah, yeah, get to work.
These laggards.
Really, I'm telling you.
I mean, Sora 2 was already out.

(02:25:14):
Where is our video?
I mean, come on.
How hard can it be?
Anyway, back to our producers.
They support us with time, talent, and treasure.
Boots on the Ground is fantastic.
Organizing meetups.
Hitting people in the mouth.
The most valuable thing you can do is
hit someone in the mouth.
Your wife, your brother, your sister, your mother,

(02:25:37):
your child, your neighbor.
OK, sometimes you lose a friend or family
member over it, but many times you actually
draw very close, and it builds friendships and
keeps families together.
The family that no agendas together stays together.
This is a fact.
We've proven it.
97% of all scientists know that this

(02:25:57):
is true, and that's because there's no discovery
in podcasting.
Everybody thinks, well, if you do video good
on YouTube, then you get a lot to
do more eyeballs and people come.
No.
No.
The only way it works is with a
recommendation.
And I'd say there's a large portion of
the no agenda producer pool that is embarrassed.

(02:26:20):
They're embarrassed because they're like, oh, I don't
want to make somebody think I'm a kook.
But you'd be surprised.
You'd be surprised how many people are primed
and ready to become no agenda producers.
So that's time, it's talent, and it's treasure.
And over the years, we have had many
forms of talent and time put in.
The time is now pretty much shrunk down

(02:26:42):
to seven seconds of prompting for an image
for the album art.
It's still appreciated, but the pool is getting
pretty polluted.
So we do want to thank, was this,
let's see what this was, Capitalist Agenda.
Yeah, he's an actual artist still.

(02:27:03):
Did the artwork for Episode 810.
We titled it Golf Ball, all lowercase.
And it was the no agenda records featuring
the Al Gore rhythms live at the Golden
Ball Room.
And it inspired an end of show mix
even.
So it was perfect.
And it was Al Gore on the cover

(02:27:23):
of the record, little 33 pin there, hadn't
even noticed it.
Nice touch.
Doing some kind of twist.
What do you think that was?
A twist, a salsa?
What kind of dances Al Gore doing there
for us?
Do you know?
You muted yourself.
This is always happens.
You've muted yourself.
Come back to me.

(02:27:44):
Come back to me.
Sorry.
Sorry.
It looks like it's some sort of shuffle.
Shuffle.
That's it.
The shuffle.
Shuffle.
Yeah.
Could be the twist.
I mean, you know, you could make that
move.
So let's see what else did people submit?
There was a lot of milk.
By the way, that Trump dance is basically
a toned down twist.

(02:28:05):
Did you see Trump dancing in Malaysia?
No.
Oh, dude, it's hilarious.
So he comes off the plane.
There's a whole traditional Malaysian dance thing.
And he goes up and he does this
YMCA dance in front of them.
I'm like, yeah, that's our president.

(02:28:27):
It was phenomenal.
Tina ran in this morning.
You won't believe it.
Take a look at this.
It was great.
We had a lot of milking stuff, which
was marginal.
The images are getting too complicated.
You know, where it's like photorealistic and there's

(02:28:48):
a lot going on.
Simple is better, I find.
Well, it depends on how funny it is.
Yeah.
There has to be some note of humor.
Yeah.
I mean, it doesn't 100% have to
be humorous.
If it's poignant, it would work.
But generally speaking, if something gets us a

(02:29:10):
laugh and it's well done, we will pick
that over anything else.
Yes.
Oh, absolutely.
But there really wasn't much.
I mean, a lot of like buddy movie,
no agenda, Curry Dvorak.
Typically, we're not big on choosing art of
our faces.
No, that's because the first two years, at
least, of the art was all us.

(02:29:33):
All of it.
Yeah.
We got tired of that.
And then we banned it.
And now if you look at the progression
of our faces over the years, we look
like two old coot idiots, which may be
true.
Well, not exactly, but we're both bearded, we're
berets, balding.
The last thing I want is to be

(02:29:54):
faced with the reality of my aging.
I was like, no, hard no.
I'm not interested in that.
Pass.
Pass on that.
No, it's been.
But besides that, it's been banned.
Yes.
Yeah.
And you look like the one where we
look like Jansen Huang, like in the leather
jackets.
And yeah, there's something.

(02:30:15):
And I've always got glasses on.
I don't wear.
We both have glasses on in that one.
It's like, no, I don't like it.
Ashland speed.
Of course, that whole bit went nowhere.
That's too bad.
I didn't even hear from Ashland.
She doesn't listen to the show anymore.
No, she's too busy crashing her Mazda on
the street.
Crash it on the track, girl.

(02:30:36):
You can't do it.
Most race car drivers can't drive on the
street.
They're yet of a lead foot.
Well, she's also a woman.
Let's be honest.
A double whammy.
She should try driving a Saab 90 with
a choke.
It had that ugly yellow color, too, that
Saab was famous for.

(02:30:57):
Gosh, I wish I'd pick.
I've had a lot of cars, a lot
of interesting cars over the years.
Never anything except for the Rolls was cool.
That was back in the Rolls Royce days.
Well, that was it.
I think we saw that and we're like,
yeah, that's good.
Let's do that one.

(02:31:18):
Was there anything?
Of course, we'd love something traditional for the
18th anniversary.
And what am I seeing?
Tote bags?
I don't know.
I think the one that's what I call
podcasting is fair.
Dropco's?
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Dropco.
Yeah, that's what you want to compete with.

(02:31:39):
The one I like the most.
I'll tell you what, the one I like
the most so far coming in.
The mac and cheese cake?
No, not that one.
Where is it?
Which one?
Well, now I'm looking.
I can't find it.
Oh, yeah.
No, I like the TikTok algorithm one by
Jeffrey Ray.

(02:31:59):
But it's got nothing to do with the
anniversary.
So it's probably not going to get picked.
We need the I just like it.
Yeah, I'll use it for the newsletter.
OK, maybe you could be ground troops.
Thanks, Coach Joe.
Ground troops is funny.
That's not sick.
It's funny, though.
What would be better if it had like
some shreds of a uniform in there?

(02:32:21):
Oh, you're horrible.
You are horrible.
All right.
Hey, of course, we always want to thank
all of our producers who support us with
their treasure, with the finances.
And it's very simple in our value for
value model.
All you got to do is say to
yourself, what is this podcast worth to me?
I need to turn that into some coin.
Well, this is how much.
And that value is completely determined by you.

(02:32:45):
Determined by how much you value things and
five dollars could be a lot to you
for some five hundred is.
Let me tip those guys.
Either way, all we all we ask for
is value.
And that's why we give you the show
free of charge, because you're going to send
the value back.
You go to noagendadonations.com and that's how
you do it.

(02:33:05):
And we always thank our executive and associate
executive producers in this segment up front.
That's people who are fortunate enough to spend
two hundred dollars or more.
Or that and then you get the title
of associate executive producer.
And that can be used right there on
IMDB.com where the famous Daniel Brunetti is
as well.
And I think what's his face from Cameron?

(02:33:26):
I think he's also an executive producer, isn't
he?
Who?
Cameron, the.
Cameron, the Titanic director.
James Cameron.
Yeah, I think isn't he an executive producer?
Not that I know of.
Oh, I thought he was.
I could be wrong.
Yeah.
And we'll read your note in both cases.

(02:33:48):
And I am never I'm always amazed and
delighted by how much people value the show.
I'm I'm always blown away.
And now for 18 years we've been doing
this.
It is just it is it's humbling.
I know you think differently.
You're like, that's what we deserve.
But I find it to be humble.
I never said that.

(02:34:09):
I find it to be quite humbling as
we start with our topic.
I don't feel it.
I'm not humbled.
I am happy.
I'm happy.
I think it's great.
We go to Midland, Pennsylvania for our top
executive producer.
Brandon Mango comes in with 1894.63. Which.

(02:34:34):
That's a show that number donation with fees.
Oh, perfect.
1894.63. Love you.
Love the show.
No math needed.
Call me Mr. Mango, the knight of the
sweet tooth.
I will gladly call you that and look
forward to it.
Thank you very much.
He also gets a.

(02:34:56):
Yes, he gets an international peace prize.
That's right.
A thousand dollars while they last.
While peace is still trending.
And no agenda international peace prize.
Did I see that it's actually written in
Swedish?
Yeah.
No, Norwegian.
I'm sorry.
Norwegian.
Yeah, it and it's in this.
It's it looks.
I mean, not only does it look, it

(02:35:16):
is an actual no agenda international peace prize.
This thing is going to be right on
the other side of this art.
Yeah, this is dynamite.
I cannot wait to get mine.
Do I get a prize?
I got you.
Yeah, I got one, but it didn't put
my middle initial C was missing and I
bitched about it.

(02:35:36):
Oh, well, you got to go back to
the committee, the Nobel committee.
Talk to them about that.
That's no good.
Yes, Brandon, you can look forward to that.
No agenda rings dot com will be the
place where you let us know where to
send that.
Thank you so much.
I'm going to do the next two.
OK, starting with Bowman McMahon in Utopia, Texas.
There's really a Utopia, Texas.
Absolutely.

(02:35:56):
Where is it?
It's right next to.
I don't know.
Right next to hell, Texas.
It's right next to Paris, Texas.
I don't know.
Ten thirty twenty six.
Another big donation that would give him a
Nobel, a Nobel, a no agenda, not a
Nobel.
It's no agenda.
Peace Prize, International Peace Prize.

(02:36:19):
And he's got no note at all.
So let's give him a double up karma.
You've got.
Karma.
And then a rando.
And this is the biggest one we've received
so far.
A rando strike, which means it is a
Bitcoin donation of one thousand eight dollars and
thirty nine cents came in.
We haven't got a note from anybody claiming

(02:36:40):
this yet.
So we'll give him a double up karma
or her.
But that is the second time because you
recall that I got one at the no
agenda meet up.
That was a Bitcoin donation.
So it's the second.
Maybe it's just the same one.
No, it's not.
You've got.
Karma.
No, it's not.
Because that one already showed up on the

(02:37:01):
spreadsheet.
OK.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, let us know, sir.
Earhopper, Pacifica, California, one thousand dollars.
International Peace Prize, Peace Prize for you.
And Sir Earhopper says, gentlemen, I accept my
peace prize with an open heart and satisfied
mind.
Please continue to be the best podcast in
the universe.
We have decamped from the infected NorCal corridor

(02:37:24):
for Colorado.
My 5G tan has never been richer by
NORAD, says Sir Earhopper.
Kevin and Tori Primo in Trinity, Florida.
They sent a check in for three sixty
seven sixty seven.
I have the note right here.

(02:37:45):
Six, seven, six, seven.
Yeah, a lot of six seven.
We got to get the six seven thing
formalized.
Yeah, but he talks about it in here.
And I thought this was interesting.
Adam's insightful deconstruction of the six seven trend
prompted this long overdue transfer of value.
As parents of teens, we are perplexed by
the trend until we embrace the fact that

(02:38:06):
is simply meaningless.
Annoyance quickly gave way to acceptance and now
affirmation.
We relish in dropping a well placed six
seven within earshot of our kids and their
friends.
Six, seven, six.
Come on, John, do it.
Six, seven, six.
I'm not doing it.
At first we were seen as cool, but

(02:38:28):
now we are cringe or Ohio.
Yeah.
Ohio was lame.
When did this this eluded me?
Well, you're not in Ohio.
Hey, man, Ohio.
I don't know.
How do you use it?
Well, how's the usage?
I think it started January 20th, 2025.

(02:38:50):
Why?
J.D. Vance, Ohio.
Oh, so Ohio.
Oh, man.
It means lame because this is a way
of getting into.
OK.
Yeah, I believe.
I believe so.
I could be.
I think you're right.
It makes sense.
I believe.
Thank you for your courage and keep up
your great work.
Sincerely, Kevin and Tori Primo in Trinity, Florida.

(02:39:10):
I love the notes and notice that the
donation segment has been more content than anything.
That's why people are missing out when they
don't.
Some donation.
Yeah, this Ohio thing is important.
The whole world knows what Ohio is.
I never heard it.
David Coonan, Sprundell.
Oh, you know what it is?

(02:39:31):
I'm going to places like Monterey Foods and
grocery stores where there's a bunch of people
in their 60s wearing jeans.
That's what it is.
Sprindle.
I've never heard of Sprindle in the Netherlands,
but it apparently is a place.
333 dot 33.
And David says, congratulations on 18 years of
the best podcast in the universe.

(02:39:52):
I raise a glass of Robert Maudavi private
selection bourbon barrel aged Cabernet Sauvignon to you
and to myself as I turn 38 today.
He got it in the Netherlands.
I guess so.
Yeah, I think they make it by the
ton combined.
I should mention, by the way, I was
flipping about the guy saying, well, it's just
a bunch of really good wine that they
re bottle.

(02:40:12):
No, the way you can.
This is a pre tip.
I'm not going to do that.
We have people in the Middle East loving
these tips.
Your wine tips.
I'm going to just give a little a
little heads up on how to spot what
would be sourced wine as opposed to wine
that's made.
I don't have a bottle of the bourbon

(02:40:33):
aged in front of me, but there's a
rule.
There's a rule regarding how it's presented.
It'll have the winery name as a produced
and bottled by the winery.
And when it says produced and bottled by
that means they made it.
They make they grow the grapes.
They grew the grapes.
They made the wine.

(02:40:53):
You know, I met.
Let me finish.
Sorry.
Then and then when you says vented.
And bottled by that means that they bought
juice.
Juice.
And they finished the job of fermenting it.
Bottled juice.
So this is this is from someone.

(02:41:14):
In other words, came from someone else.
But it's not that your friend was talking
about, which is where you have a really
good quality wine.
There's an overrun.
So you give it to some schlock Meister
and have them bottle it up and sell
it cheap, even though it's a good product,
which is a common practice in California.
It says cellared and bottled by.

(02:41:35):
That means they had somebody else made a
really good wine and couldn't sell it.
And they put it on something and they
put it in the basement and called it.
So it says cellared by and all they
did was put a label on it.
Combined with my previous executive producer donation of
my four dollar weekly donation running since October
2019.
This puts me well into roundtable territory.

(02:41:57):
Please knight me, Sir David of West Brabant.
No jingles, but I would like to request
some house karma just for your house.
Do you want to sell it or you
got some karma for that?
You got you got ghosts in your house.
Thank you for all you do, says David
Coonan in Sprindle, the Netherlands.
You've got karma.

(02:42:20):
Now there's Duke, Sir, Dr. Shaky.
Oh, good.
I was always Sharky.
St. Peter's, Missouri.
Three, three, three, three, three.
Congratulations on 18 years.
You both have been a blessing and a
godsend both during these dark times.
Is it possible to stream episode 17?

(02:42:43):
No, one episode.
Oh, one.
That's one in a question mark, dude.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought it was a 17.
Wow.
Well, I'm looking.
I'm reading from a distance here.
I got blurry, small.
I got all kinds of problems.
I'd like to broadcast it across FEMA region
seven and four.
No.

(02:43:03):
What do you mean?
No, it stinks.
Hey, I, you know, I'm going on a
vacation in November.
We have to have another.
Love Duke, Dr. Shaky.
We have another vacation show coming up.
Well, what?
You want to play episode one?
No, we have never done a rerun and
we're not going to start now.

(02:43:23):
It's only 38 minutes.
Well, we'll have to rerun it four times.
Over and over and over.
Yes.
All right.
Thank you, Duke.
Sir.
Dr. Shaky.
Up next, we have Matthew Burns from Causton,
British Columbia, Canada.
British Columbia is beautiful.
I hope this, this is 357 and 83

(02:43:47):
dollary dues from Candidavia.
So even though that translates to about $5
in America, you will be an executive producer.
Um, this donation of 255.56 USD plus
fees, 357.83 Canadian should make this my
second executive producer title.
You really taking advantage of the system?

(02:44:09):
Yeah.
I can hope, hope you can bump me
up from associate.
Well, yes, we can.
I've been listening to the show since 2013.
And with this donation, I finally reached knighthood.
Your show and same perspectives on the craziness
of our world really helped me keep me
steady during all this time.
In a roundabout way, your show also played

(02:44:30):
an important role in bringing me to Christ.
And I was very happy to hear about
your faith journey along this time as well,
Adam.
Please knight me, Sir Burns of the good
future.
I would like to have a hot coffee
and stroopwafel at the round table, please.
I'm glad I caught that.
I hadn't seen that, but I have stroopwafels.
It's a little, it's a little musty, but
yeah, because I didn't order fresh ones.
Um, this donation is also a shout out

(02:44:55):
to my wife's birthday on November 6th.
I'll keep her name anonymous.
Just call her Sir Burns's keeper.
In addition, bless you.
It turns out our wedding anniversary is the
same day as the show's anniversary.
This was not planned when we got married
last year, but we are both very pleased
that it works out this way.
Happy first anniversary to my keeper.
Please also send some baby making karma our

(02:45:16):
way as we hope to expand our lovely
little family.
God bless you both.
And thank you for your courage.
And we will see you at the round
table soon to be Sir Burns of the
good future.
You've got karma.

(02:45:36):
Sarcastic.
In Y-A-O, missing Pennsylvania.
Why are you missing?
Two, three, four, five, six.
John, no agenda has earned the right to
win.
Winning.
Winning.
Here's to 18 years.
No jingles, no karma.
Honorable sarcastic of the nomad.

(02:45:58):
Another Dutchman comes in.
Pierre Mas from Kadir and Kier in the
Netherlands.
23375.
You're John and Adam.
Sorry about the long note, but my sons
and I would like to ask for the
help of the No Agenda community.
My wife passed away last December.
Wait, didn't we already read this note?
Yes, we read this note.
Did we?
Yes, from asbestos-related cancer.
I have already connected you to...

(02:46:19):
Oh, yes.
We have read this note already.
It probably was on the cusp of some
of the spreadsheet or who knows how it
got.
Yes.
Well, anyway, he has been connected to Rob,
the constitutional lawyer.
And we had another producer come in whose
brother-in-law is an asbestos lawyer.
He's somewhat of a douchebag, apparently, but you've
been...
That's the one you want.

(02:46:41):
So we've taken care of you for that.
Sorry to hear about that, Pierre Mas.
And let me know if the connections work.
We are a full-service show.
We are a full-service show.
Eli the Coffee Guy is up in Bensonville,
Illinois.
Happy 18 years, he writes.
You two have covered a lot of events
over the years, and your wealth of knowledge
is what makes the show great.

(02:47:01):
Plus the jingles, tip of the day, and
the rest.
For old time's sake, you can hail a
taxi at the end of the show like
back in the day.
I always wondered where that inside joke came
from.
Wow, you used to do that.
Instead of, I love my chicken.
You used to go, taxi.
Remember that?

(02:47:22):
Not vaguely.
But I'm more interested in the way you
ridiculed me here for what I do now.
I have to keep up my meanness.
Apparently, it's part of the appeal.
I just wanted to point this out to
the people out there who are keeping score.
Keeping score.
It's part of the charm of the show.
To four more years and then some.
And for the producers who want some amazing
fresh roasted coffee, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com.

(02:47:47):
And use the code ITM20 for 20%
off your order.
Thank you for your courage and stay caffeinated.
Eli, the coffee guy, did send me a
picture of his roaster.
Yeah.
So since you asked, for the past two
minutes, knowing this donation was coming up, I've
been shaking my cold brew coffee.

(02:48:10):
Don't you just have to bump it?
Just bang it once and it takes care
of it.
To activate nitro, shake vigorously.
Which sounds like a very bad thing.
But here's the problem.
When you shake his cold brew coffee...
Does it mean...
Do you shake the can vigorously or do
you just shake?
Both, actually.
Well, see, there it is.
You hear that?

(02:48:31):
Then it has like some minor carbonation type
effect.
Well, it's nitrogen, yeah.
It's nitrogen?
He has nitrogen in the can?
Yeah, there's a little capsule in there that's
got compressed nitrogen.
It puts a little kind of a faux
foam in there.
Yeah.
Amen.
I don't know how much CO2 is involved.

(02:48:52):
Gets you really high.
No, it doesn't.
Have you been drinking it all morning?
Well, you drink it all morning.
Baron Victor Corvallis, Oregon, 218.
Happy 18th anniversary from someone who has been
here since the daily source code.
That's right, Baron Victor of the Willamette Valley.

(02:49:12):
Thank you so much.
You have been a part of a big
part of my life, including getting my fixed
-wing license in Willamette Valley.
Sir Leighton in Dawson, Alabama, 210-60.
Was that the opening of the can?
Is that what that was?
No, that was me just going...

(02:49:34):
It was something you hate.
You hate that when people go...
Yeah, I do.
Everybody does.
But it's not me, it's everyone.
Happy 18th from Southeast Alabama, another Alabama babamian.
I thank you for all the great shows,
Sir Leighton.
Leron.
The Leron.
I'm sorry.
Leron.
Dame Zelda is in San Jose, California, $205.

(02:49:57):
Yellow, so that means a birthday is involved.
Dear John Adam, your show really is the
best podcast in the universe.
Thank you for staying sane and balanced in
the sea of chaos and propaganda.
Also, thank you, John, for solving my recurrent
nightmare mystery.
This is very interesting.
I'll get to it in a minute.
Turns out you really can't dial a phone

(02:50:18):
in a dream, and it's not some psychological
issue that my subconscious is trying to communicate
to me in my dreams.
Wow!
Life-changing information.
It's my birthday this Tuesday, the 28th, so
please add me to the birthday list and
play the shapeshifting Jews jingle.
Much love, Dame Zelda of Silicon Valley, patron
of the wandering Jews.

(02:50:39):
You know, we got a lot of feedback
on you, which was at the end of
the show, a lot of feedback on your
dream where you were incapable of doing many
things.
Yeah, I had a couple.
I have a professor of neurological guide, a
professor down at USC wrote in, and he
gave me some good information about what these

(02:51:01):
things are called.
Yes, they're called dreams, right?
No, there's certain names of specific, he's a
specific, he's into the things.
No, I know, he's written several books.
I think I'm supposed to do an endorsement,
and I sent it to you and you
never sent it back, and so we didn't
get the endorsement on the book.

(02:51:22):
Oh, I didn't get it.
I'm a blurb meister, I'll endorse anything.
You blocked me in your email.
But he has some good information, which I'll
read in one of the notes, maybe.
You should put that in your sub stack.
Maybe, but somebody else came up with one,
he says that he knows about these problems

(02:51:42):
with the dialing a phone and writing.
He says, what you want to do to
try to get into the lucidity of the
dream where you can know that you're dreaming
is in a dream, examine your hands.
He says, once you start getting into the
habit of examining your hands, you'll see for

(02:52:03):
some reason, I don't know, I haven't done
this.
I don't know what you see, but you
don't see your hands.
You see, whatever you see is like tells
you you're in a dream.
Or you're in the matrix.
I don't know.
Wow, Dame Zelda, thank you very much.
I'm going to play the whole 30 seconds
of this one for you.

(02:52:37):
It's an illustration.
Yeah, classic secret agent, Paul.
Yeah, we got one more dream angle.
Somebody else wrote in saying if you want
to get into lucid dreaming, which is the

(02:52:58):
kind of dreams you're aware of, as opposed
to vivid dreams, but lucid dream where you're
in the dream, you know, you're in the
dream and you can do some kind of
control.
He likes to shoot guns.
He says, by the way, when you shoot
guns, you can't hit anything.
It's terrible.
But he says to get into lucid dreams.
I haven't tried.
Try this.
I don't know if I will.

(02:53:18):
You have three hours before you go to
bed.
You have a couple of tablespoons of potato
starch.
Now, this could be bullcrap, but he claims
that this will trigger lucid dreaming.
Oh, so if you have some potato starch,
it will trigger lucid dreaming.
That's what he says.
Interesting.

(02:53:39):
Now, we have a couple of, there's a
wine.
I don't have the name of it handy.
I'll make it a tip of the day
if I ever dig it out.
I have a couple of bottles left.
We had this wine a couple of times.
There are alcoholic products or fermented products out
there.
If you drink them, you will have, I
don't know if they're lucid, vivid or what.
You'll have some of the damnedest dreams you've

(02:53:59):
ever had.
Oh, yeah.
That's called Andres.
Yeah, well, that's wow.
I made a wine joke.
A wine joke.
Well, it's better than golf ball.
Sir Knight DC in Oregon.
No, he's not in Oregon.
He's in.
That's he's in Oregon.
Yeah.

(02:54:19):
No, that's O.R. That's yeah.
Oregon.
What am I thinking?
I don't know.
$200.
What am I thinking?
$200 and two cents.
Sir Knight DC.
I.T.M. Gentlemen, I appreciate the rousing
you guys give each other.
Gives the show an edge.
That's right.

(02:54:40):
We got it.
We're edgy.
We are.
Yeah, doesn't like it.
Yeah.
S.D.G. Oakland, California.
$180 for the show, plus $20 for associate
executive producer.
$200 total.
Congrats.
Throw some Rev out out to the community.

(02:55:00):
R.E.S.P.I.C.T. Linda
Lou Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado.
Jobs, karma for a competitive edge, she writes
with a resume that gets results.
Go to image makers Inc.
Dot com for all your executive.
Whoops.
Scroll off for all your executive and job

(02:55:21):
search needs resume and jobs.
Job.
Reread.
Just reread.
Reread.
Oh, I just double click so I can
have it.
OK, I'm going to be from scratch.
Make good.
Make good.
Jobs, karma for a competitive edge with a
resume that gets results.
Go to image makers Inc.
Dot com for all your executive resume and

(02:55:42):
job search needs.
That's image makers Inc.
And that's with a K.
Work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and
writer of winning resumes.
Happy 18th.
Yeah, we didn't need the ad lib, but
OK, well, it's we'll take it as a
read.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.

(02:56:06):
Tireless, tireless.
Linda and.
Linda closes this out for show.
Yes, she does.
For the 18.
Oh, what are we?
18 or 10, 18, 10, 18, 11, 18,
11.
That's right.
Thank you.
A war of 1812.
Thank you to these executive and associate executive
producers for our 18th anniversary.

(02:56:27):
We appreciate all of you.
We appreciate all of our producers.
Of course, we will thank the rest of
our producers.
Fifty dollars and above in the second is
going to be a long show.
Alert the affiliates.
But that's usually what happens with an anniversary
show.
So it's good.
And we've brought you pure content this time,
as we always try to do in the
donation segment, because it's not just value for

(02:56:48):
value.
It's not just the international lifestyle.
It is.
In fact, it is a way of life.
And we love living it.
Thanks to you.
You can go to no agenda donations dot
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Make your support of the show known at
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Set up a recurring donation, any amount, any
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Thank you to these anniversary show producers.

(02:57:10):
Our formula is this.
We go out.
We hit people in the mouth.

(02:57:31):
I got a little A.I. here.
Little a little.
Oh, you may have seen this.
Yeah, I saw.
This was actually quite good.
I think it deserves some form of award
for this.
It's pretty decent.
This is a big promotion that they ran
about themselves because they have an anniversary, along
with ours.
20, I think 20 years.

(02:57:53):
Something like that.
They do have us beat, man.
We've been around almost as long as R
.T. That says something.
Yeah, yeah.
Gunsmoke.
Here we go.
Do you ever catch yourself questioning more?
Like, why do I always parrot everything the
U.S. State Department says?
Or why I always ask, do you condemn
Hamas, but never Israel?
Why I never said sorry for spreading the

(02:58:14):
debunked Trump Russiagate hoax.
Why I support every illegal war the U
.S. has launched this century.
Why I can't stop lying that Joe Biden
was young and healthy enough for the presidency.
Why we ignore our rock bottom ratings and
pretend people still want to watch the same
old bullshit.
The only reason we're asking is because R
.T. generated this video and made us do

(02:58:34):
it.
So you'll never get answers, at least not
from us.
Happy anniversary to R.T. I may be
an A.I., but there's no way I'm
saying that.
That was good.
That was very cute.
It's not like Scaramanga would make that for
us.
Think about the virality of it.

(02:58:56):
Yeah, it was, yeah.
Yeah.
Although R.T. stuff has been banned in
a lot of places, including the United States.
For a while there, you couldn't even get
it on your computer.
I know, they really...
There were internet service providers who were blocking
it so crazy.
Little sports ball, sports ball for you, everybody.
You know me.
I'm the sports ball guy of the show.

(02:59:16):
So I'm going to bring you some sports
ball.
This is Nikola Vucevic.
You know him, right?
Probably.
Yeah, he's the center for the Bulls.
Hello from Chicago.
You know him?
I never met him.
Well, I mean...
He's tall.
He's tall.
Centers aren't always that tall.
Yeah, they always...

(02:59:37):
There's not a center in the league that's
not at least 6'11".
6'11"?
Yeah.
Well, I'm going to look that up.
He is very concerned about sports betting on
sports ball.
Gambling is a big problem.
Not only here, but worldwide.
But I think now that it's got into
sports here, a lot of people are involved
in it.

(02:59:58):
A lot of people gamble and it's...
You know, unfortunately, a lot of people get
stuck in it and it's hard to get
out.
It's available on your phone.
All you gotta do is download the app
and you can just play.
We as players feel it a lot when
we step on the court.
Nowadays, you hear more often...
Before, you used to hear like, Hey, Vuch,
you know, get a win.
Or, hey, do this and that.

(03:00:18):
Now it's like, hey, my parlay is 10
rebounds.
I need 10 boards.
Or, hey, my parlay is 15 points.
Or you come out of timeout, you hear
people say that.
And a lot of times, return is like
14, 15-year-old kids.
And honestly, it pisses me off because it's
disrespectful to the game.
You know, we put so much work in
to try to do the right thing.

(03:00:39):
To put good product on the court and
play the right way.
And try to win for our team.
And people focus on, you know, if I'm
gonna get 10 rebounds or not.
Or for anybody else.
I think it's very unfortunate.
But, you know, even back home, we have
big issues with that.
There's a lot of areas, a lot of
places you can go and gamble on sports.
So, yeah, I mean, you know, it's a

(03:01:00):
big problem for the world.
It's a big addiction for people.
So it's something that the NBA is gonna
have to, you know, look at and try
to find a way to fix it as
much as possible.
But, yeah, it's unfortunate that we're dealing with
it.
But, you know, we'll see what comes out
of it.
6'9".
He's 6'9".
That guy's 6'9"?
No wonder they can't win.
Most of the centers in the league are

(03:01:22):
7 foot plus.
Well, he's 6'9".
Yeah, but this is the problem.
Yeah, and he's very erudite.
I'm glad they put him on to explain
the situation.
I couldn't understand a word he said.
Wow.
He was saying...
Get some headphones.
He was saying, John, wear headphones.
You can understand things better with headphones.

(03:01:43):
No, you don't wear glasses.
He's saying that these are 14-year-old
kids doing these prop bets.
Like, hey, man, they're yelling at him during
the game.
I need 10 rebounds, man, 10 rebounds.
It's ruining the game.
It's ruining everything.
And, gee, guess what?
Sports leagues all not only encourage it, they're

(03:02:06):
all partnering with very big gambling operations.
The NBA is one of them.
Of course.
And he's against it, is what he's saying.
Well, they should all be against it.
The game is rigged.
Yeah, well, we've already...
But this show has...
What's the word I want to use?

(03:02:28):
I can't...
Trying to think of a bad, lousy word.
Positive.
There's one.
We remit.
We remit.
We have said forever, because we've been predicting
the winners of these, especially the international games,
right on the money based on geopolitical action

(03:02:48):
going on.
Yeah, that's true.
You predict the winner.
So it filters down.
These games have always been rigged.
Yeah.
It's rigged, man.
It's bad for the kids.
It's bad for it.
By the way, man, Rogan's podcast is filled
with gambling ads.
Oh, is it?
All of a sudden?

(03:03:09):
No, it's been that way for a while.
I mean, and it's not even...
I don't even think it's him.
I don't think he does the reads himself
on those.
Those are just inserted dynamically.
Who knows where it comes from?
Maybe Spotify's just jamming it in.
No, I don't listen on Spotify.
So who knows where it comes from?
Megaphone does it.
Yeah, and they're always like, you know, if
you've got a problem, call this number.
And now you got five free dollars.

(03:03:30):
Sign up now, kids.
It'll be great.
Your first bet is good for 24 hours.
Yeah, but gamble, gamble, gamble.
What could possibly go wrong?
It's a good business.
I'd like to hear from any of our
producers who have had a gambling addiction.
We know we got them.
Oh, yeah.
Well, we have with approximately a million listeners,

(03:03:51):
just under.
Yeah.
We have, which is the size of San
Francisco, the entire town.
Only not as retarded.
How about that?
Yeah, isn't that interesting?
It's actually better.
But we're much better than San Francisco.
We have people from all walks of life
that listen to this show.
Yes, we do.

(03:04:12):
That's what makes it so cool.
And you know what?
They should have prop bets on our show.
Now you're talking.
Will Adam be mean to John?
There's an over and under.
Yeah.
What's the over under on?
What are we doing over under on?
315, I'd say 315 would be the over
and under for the length.
How about how about how many times will
Adam be mean to John?
Oh, that's a over and under.

(03:04:33):
And that would be 10.
Let's let's move on.
And let's listen to Israel controlling America, shall
we?
Just a few hours after arriving on Thursday,
U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio met
with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Secretary Rubio, Marco, welcome again to Jerusalem.

(03:04:55):
But the president.
He's the latest of a flurry of high
profile U.S. figures to arrive in the
region following the ceasefire agreement that was signed
two weeks ago.
After the special envoy to the Middle East,
Steve Witkoff, Trump's senior advisor, Jared Kushner and
Prime Minister J.D. Vance, the head of
the CIA, John Ratcliffe is expected to arrive
next.

(03:05:16):
The vice president just left.
We crossed on the way.
And then I'm here now today because this
is a priority.
It's a very important achievement, but there's more
work to be done and bigger achievements that
lie ahead.
And so we're here to work on that.
And we feel very positive and confident that
we're going to get there.
Despite substantial obstacles, we're going to get there.
The latest obstacle was a vote in the

(03:05:36):
Israeli parliament on whether the country should annex
the West Bank.
Speaking before boarding the airplane, the vice president
was not impressed.
Look, if it was a political stunt, it
was a very stupid political stunt.
And I personally take some insult to it.
The West Bank is not going to be
annexed by Israel.
The policy of the Trump administration is that

(03:05:57):
the West Bank will not be annexed by
Israel.
That will continue to be our policy.
Netanyahu said that the vote was organized by
the opposition, but many in his camp have
been pressuring the prime minister to annex the
West Bank for years.
I will not allow Israel to annex the
West Bank.
No, I will not allow it.
It's not going to happen.
The text would need to be approved four

(03:06:19):
times in parliament to go through.
But on Thursday, Foreign Minister Gideon Saar said
that the process would be suspended.
All right.
So we'll see.
We'll see if they annex it, then they're
in charge.
If it doesn't happen, then Trump's in charge.
That's very.
I think Vance was right.
Oh, of course, it's a political stunt.
Of course.
Yeah, and it was an insult at him
personally.
Yes.

(03:06:40):
They're trying to put him in his place.
Yeah, well, we'll see.
We'll see.
Bad news for the subprime loan market.
I don't know.
I have not listened to the most recent
DH unplugged.

(03:07:00):
But this is about subprime auto loans.
Have you been following this?
Not at all.
Hey, Scott.
Yeah, it's the private credit side of the
business that has seen a real sentiment shift.
Apollo, Aries, Blue Owl and KKR seeing significant
declines week to date, while those more exposed
to private equity, think TPG and Carlyle, they've
held up OK.

(03:07:20):
Two high profile bankruptcies in the auto finance
space leading to a broad based sell off
in the publicly traded alternatives firms, Tricolor and
First Brands Bankruptcies, each within the last few
weeks have shed a new light on the
risks of over leverage and subprime borrowers.
Hedge fund manager Jim Chano slamming private credit
in an interview with the Financial Times saying,

(03:07:42):
quote, I suspect we're going to see more
of these things like first brands and others
when the cycle ultimately reverses.
He said the two trillion dollar private credit
sector is akin to the packaging of subprime
mortgages during the 2008 crisis because of the,
quote, layers of people in between the source
of money and the use of money.
Typical direct lenders sit toward the top of

(03:08:04):
the capital stack, meaning they would get paid
back before equity and other layers of debt
in a bankruptcy.
So I didn't know this was how intricate
this was, but so the banks don't really
want to do auto loans anymore.
So all these this private equity is doing
kind of they're doing loans, lending money to

(03:08:25):
these companies that have the buy here, pay
here, borrow here outfits.
And probably a lot of the immigrants who
were here illegally, they just got in their
cars and drove back to Mexico and no
one's paying back these car loans.
And that's putting these private equity guys in
somewhat of a bind.

(03:08:46):
There's a lot of problems in the banking
sector right now.
The main thing is a lot of it
has to do in the with these same
guys doing double dealing and creating kind of
virtual Ponzi schemes by selling off the same
asset to more than one buyer.
It's almost like everyone's trying to do the
duplicate of what the producers movie, if you

(03:09:08):
remember that with Jeremy Mostel, tried to accomplish
by making a flop.
Springtime for Hitler, the musical.
But then it wasn't a flop and now
they're in trouble.
Yeah.
Well, the car sector in general is very
interesting.
Those numbnuts at Porsche who thought they would
jump on the bandwagon screwed it up.

(03:09:31):
Profits at German carmaker Porsche plunged by nearly
96% in the first nine months of
this year.
Porsche said the drop in profits was due
to a change in strategy as the company
shifted its focus back to combustion engines after
weak demand for its electric vehicles.
No kidding.
After years of roaring down the autobahn, a
speed bump for Porsche.

(03:09:52):
The iconic sports carmaker notched up a spectacular
third quarter loss of almost one billion euros
as it grappled with the costs of returning
to petrol and delaying its electric vehicle rollout.
Operating profit, which strips out some costs such
as tax, fell to 40 million euros for
the first nine months of the year.
Porsche revved up its electric vehicle strategy with
the launch of its electric car project, Mission

(03:10:14):
R.
This concept embodies everything that Porsche, what it
is.
Performance, design and sustainability.
All electric, high performance and efficient.
This is a new Mission R.
Then in September, Porsche went into reverse.
The sports carmaker said it would delay the
introduction of some fully electric cars and extend

(03:10:35):
the life of some combustion engine and hybrid
models.
The reason was lack of growth in demand
for high performance electric vehicles and there were
significant costs associated with the original aggressive EV
strategy.
Porsche's parent company, Volkswagen, said it had taken
a punishing five billion euro profit hit to
cover the costs of Porsche's product rejig.

(03:10:56):
Yeah, like we could have told them this
was a dumb idea.
Oh yeah.
The same thing kind of happened to Ferrari.
Yes.
They took a beating because they tried to
do some electric stuff and then we actually
talked about this on the DHM plug show,
which is every Tuesday.
Eight o'clock central time.
And with a live chat room.

(03:11:16):
That's right.
Live stream.
Live.
Is that General Motors is doing better than
Ford because General Motors backed off on the
electric stuff a lot faster than Ford did.
Yes, of course.
You know, the only guys who can do
electric is Tesla.
They cornered the market.
Even BYD is falling apart now, I hear.

(03:11:37):
I didn't hear that.
They're pretty big.
Well, let's see.
Because Germany, of course, very big on the
green energy.
You know, they're so smart.
There are those Germans.
Do you think they learned anything?
Let's listen.
Two huge cooling towers of the former nuclear
power plant in Gundremingen in Germany's Bavaria were
destroyed in a controlled demolition at noon on

(03:11:58):
Saturday.
The plant had served as an important landmark
in the town for nearly six decades, bringing
numerous new jobs and boosting the town's economy.
That pops.
However, the removal of the cooling towers comes
as part of the country's nuclear phase out.
Both nuclear reactors had already been closed for

(03:12:20):
several years.
Following Saturday's demolition, the dismantling of the plant
will further continue with completion expected by 2040.
Ready to go, guys.
Great idea.
Yeah.
It's the dumbest thing the Germans have ever
done.
Oh, my word.
It's crazy.

(03:12:41):
It is just crazy.
Have you heard about the inter-bearing?
No.
This is, I filed under the ARC category,
America, Russia, China.
The International Bearing Strait Tunnel and Railroad.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we had somebody sending us a bunch.

(03:13:01):
This is not a new idea.
This has been going around since, they say,
even as far back as 1900.
But Trump is crazy.
He could do something like this.
Because the idea is that you connect the
U.S., Canada, of course, Alaska, the Bearing
Strait, which is what, 60 miles or something?
It's not even that far.

(03:13:22):
It's not that, it's doable.
You connect it to Russia, Siberia, then to
China.
With a tunnel.
With a tunnel.
And then you've got a beautiful, you know,
then we circumvent everybody.
You have a train system that can run.
Yeah.
Product from Japan and China.
Yeah.
And Russia, right straight to the United States
via the West Coast.

(03:13:44):
It'd be fantastic.
Without shipping.
Because, you know, you've got to go a
long ways.
Yeah, zero shipping, zero shipping.
So this has been around for a long
time?
Yeah, it's been around.
You might be right about Trump being nuts
about it and doing it.
But I think he's going to take Greenland
first.
Greenland doesn't seem to be important in this

(03:14:04):
idea.
No, no, I know it's got nothing to
do with Greenland.
I'm just saying it's on his list of
things to do.
Uh, big, big news in the Anglican church.
Uh, church news.
Church news.
I got church news.
Well, for the first time in 500 years.

(03:14:25):
Nearly 900 years after the Church of England
split from Rome.
A symbolic moment of unity as Pope Leo
and King Charles III pray together for the
very first time.
Teach us to see your hand in all
your works and your likeness in all your
children.

(03:14:46):
Through Christ our Lord.
Beneath the Sistine Chapel's vaulted ceiling, the head
of the Catholic Church and the head of
the Church of England shared a joint religious
service.
Their choir's voices blending in harmony as they
brought their two faiths together.
It's a symbolic gesture that consolidates years of

(03:15:08):
growing mutual respect between the Vatican and the
British monarchy.
During the service, UK Foreign Minister Yvette Cooper
also read a Bible verse from a letter
to the Romans written by St. Paul.
And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what
is the mind of the spirit, because he
maketh intercession for the saints according to the

(03:15:31):
will of God.
After the service, Charles and Camilla travelled to
Rome's Basilica of St. Paul outside the walls,
where Charles was given a special chair decorated
with his coat of arms that'll be kept
there for the King and his heirs.
The visit comes as questions remain over the
King's brother Prince Andrew and his links to
convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

(03:15:52):
Buckingham Palace hoping this historic moment will shift
some of the focus away from events back
home.
Yeah, so it was interesting that's not at
all what this is about because there has
been a massive split in the Anglican church
because they chose a female bishop of Canterbury

(03:16:14):
and of course they're all in with the
Rainbow Coalition and LGBTQ.
Yeah, the church is gay.
The Anglican church is super gay and the
Africans are having none of it.
You cannot find a mainstream news report about
this, so I got 40 seconds from a
YouTuber.
This is why the Anglican church just split
in two.

(03:16:34):
Here's the story.
GAFCON is a group of conservative Anglicans, mostly
in Africa and Asia, who say that the
global Anglican communion has been drifting away from
the Bible.
On October 16th, 2025, they made a bold
move.
They no longer recognize the Archbishop of Canterbury
or the traditional councils that once united Anglicans.
The trigger?
The appointment of Sarah Mullally, the first female

(03:16:55):
Archbishop of Canterbury.
GAFCON says this goes against historic Anglican teaching
and against scripture.
In response, they announced a new structure, the
Global Anglican Communion.
Essentially what they're saying is, we're not leaving,
we are the true Anglican communion.
This isn't just a disagreement, it's a realignment,
splitting Anglicanism into two branches.
One that stays faithful to the Archbishop of

(03:17:16):
Canterbury and the other that stays faithful to
scripture.
And one is gay and the other one
isn't.
It's crazy.
And what I love about this is that
it combines church news with African news.
It couldn't be any better for the show.
You have to go to a YouTuber to
get this?
Yes, there is nothing available on mainstream about

(03:17:37):
this, I think, historic split.
Nothing.
It is pretty much of a big deal,
but it surprises me that they don't cover
anything.
No.
Borderline pathetic.
Yes.
So we have a couple more things that
aren't covered.
You know this guy that's running for governor

(03:17:59):
or senator.
He's running for senator of Maine.
Oh, yeah.
This is like a Platner guy.
He has a SS tattoo on his chest.
This is the guy who Bernie Sanders was
worried about and then it turns out he's
been writing stuff on Reddit.
Is that the guy?
But I don't know if he's I know

(03:18:20):
he's got he has a high profile online
and he had a he had a Nazi
SS tattoo on his chest.
Excellent skull and crossbones.
The one that was on the logo that's
on the SS hat.
What could possibly go wrong?
And so he had it tattooed over, but
the pictures of it exist.

(03:18:40):
And he like trying to get away from
from this because he's running as a obviously
as a Democrat, but he's running as a
left-wing Democrat against the ex-governor of
Maine, who is very popular, but they're going
to try to get rid of her because
they're trying to push the entire Democrat Party
into the progressive camp.
And and so Scott Jennings actually got worked

(03:19:02):
up about it on CNN.
And I thought the exchange was worth recording
and I have copies of it here.
It's about this point.
If he moves forward, Democrats aren't winning the
seat.
I hate to break the news to you,
but he's winning the primary.
By 30 points.
Getting a Nazi tattoo made him more popular
among Democrats.

(03:19:24):
You've got a guy running for attorney general
in Virginia who wants to murder Republicans and
he raised $500,000 off of it.
You got a Nazi tattoo guy in Maine.
I sat out here for a year, two
years listening to every Democrat at this table
say, Donald Trump's a Nazi, Elon's a Nazi.
And your party is now in love with
a guy with a Nazi tattoo who trained
a left wing paramilitary group and called himself

(03:19:46):
an Antifa super soldier on the Internet.
And he's going up every day.
Good luck getting your nice.
What you said being yourself with the cop,
which you copped or the health.
That's right.
Now, exactly right.
And he keeps they keep arguing with him,
saying, oh, he's not going to get in.
His numbers keep going up.
He's up.
When I checked, he wasn't 30 percent, 30

(03:20:07):
points ahead.
He was 34 points ahead.
And he's getting a lot of traction because
the they may end up losing the Republican
because, you know, the Democrats are primary.
They're doing what the Republicans are.
Remember years ago when in the early part
of our era, the no agenda era, there
used to be these primary the Republican because

(03:20:30):
they weren't conservative enough.
And they kept trying to get these people
out of office.
Yeah.
And so they bring out and they bring
an extremist to run against them.
And then the person would win and then
they'd lose against the Democrat.
Yeah.
And that's what's going on with the Democrats.
Now they've picked up the same idea.
Here's part two.
I am but a humble political analyst.
And I will just tell you that when
you're winning a race by 30 points, if

(03:20:52):
a pundit on television tells you, well, you
need to think about dropping out, you laugh
in their face.
I don't know.
I want Democrats to be who they are.
This is who they are.
No, that is who they are.
You're saying the Democrats are Nazis?
It's very, it's very on brand right now.
He's doing it wrong.

(03:21:13):
I don't know if he gets here, but
he should say it doesn't surprise me.
But it's not just the Nazis, Jew haters.
You got a Jew hater in New York.
You got a Jew hater in Maine.
That's the angle he should take.
Don't you think?
Yeah, I think.
Yeah, you're right.
That would be right.
It would be better.
He could improve his.
Yes.
His stick.
Give us a call.
If he brought that in.

(03:21:34):
Yeah, it's a call.
I'll help you out.
Really?
Like, are you suggesting that like a person
who wears a Nazi tattoo because he was
in the military or whatever is representative of
the entire Democratic Party?
Well, hold on.
You said that about Hexeth.
I'm only reading the polling, Abby.
When all this story broke and he started

(03:21:54):
talking about it, he literally got more popular.
He's beating the incumbent.
You realize that he's running in one state
in Maine, and you're also saying that because
of that, he's representative of the Democratic Party.
He said this is who they are.
Who is they?
Look at the polling.
Look at the energy.

(03:22:15):
Bernie Sanders wants him.
The beating heart of the Democratic Party, where
their energy is, wants the Nazi tattoo guy.
That's what they want.
I think that this country is about anything.
It's about understanding that every person, me, you,
everybody else has gone dark moments in our
history, and we go on.
Bernie Sanders isn't the head of the Democratic

(03:22:36):
Party.
I think he's not.
Don't even.
Where's the energy of the party?
Here is what I will tell you.
Schumer wants Mills.
Sanders wants this guy, and he's winning by
30.
Let me tell you this.
When polling happens, he is totally unknown.
Listen, I understand you don't want to have
this guy, and I wouldn't either.
He is a totally unknown guy.

(03:22:58):
Comes out of nowhere.
He's got the full support of the left
-wing, progressive Sanders wing of the Democratic Party,
and he's beating— Like, everybody in this is
who supports Bernie Sanders?
Yes.
Look at the polling.
And here's the most important thing.
He's beating the incumbent governor of the state
by 30 points.
This isn't happening in a vacuum.

(03:23:19):
People are comparing an establishment figure like Mills
and this insurgent left-wing radical like Plattner,
and they're like, you know what?
We'll take the Nazi tattoos.
It's fine.
And I just, I think you, look, it
may be early, but people are following this
race, and the polling is pretty clear.
It's not that close.
I don't know what's happening, man.

(03:23:40):
I mean, we've got the church turning gay.
We've got the Democrats turning into Nazis.
I mean— Well, you have to remember that
Maine has somehow, and over the—used to be
this very conservative state, but somehow, especially around
the city of Portland, it's become kind of
a libtard, and I hate to use that
word, libjobe is better, probably.

(03:24:02):
Yeah, that's pretty bad.
It's airy, because the influx of people that
couldn't afford staying in New York City, and
they're all, you know, the office workers of
New York City couldn't afford it there, and
so they moved up to Portland, because Portland
is this great place, and it is pretty.
I've been there.

(03:24:22):
And I think a lot of Californians, Washington
State people are comfortable up there.
The weather's pretty much the same.
It's just—the state has been ruined by liberals.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot happening now with the
get-back-to-the-office vibe that's happening.
I was reading an article that all of

(03:24:42):
these people who came from, I think, mainly
California, New York, et cetera, moved to Arizona,
moved to Austin, and— Oh, Austin is plagued
by these people.
Yeah, but you know what's happening?
Now they all have to go back to
the office.
And at the time, they bought homes, median
price, $450,000.

(03:25:05):
You know what they get for it now,
because everyone wants to leave now?
$220,000 for the same house.
I thought they had gone up to houses
in Austin.
No, it's been falling like a rock.
Wow, you're the luckiest guy in the world.
I would say so.

(03:25:25):
Yep, yep.
We were just talking about it last night.
I said, you know what?
We're the luckiest guy and gal in the
world.
Thank you, darling.
He said, white wine?
What is this?
No, you don't start drinking during the show.
The show is normally over.
That's why she's coming in with my wine.
Hello, hello.
Are you done?
Tony, take it out.

(03:25:45):
Take the wine out.
He says, take the wine out.
Take the wine out.
It's no good.
We should probably play one more clip and
then go.
Because we have...
Well, let's play the conspiracies rundown.
This clip is floating around a lot.
There's a bunch of people coming online.
And this is the talk clip on general

(03:26:07):
strikes.
They're promoting the idea that we're going to,
in this country, because everyone's so fed up,
even though nobody's fed up.
Even in California, we're not that fed up.
They're going to have a general strike.
That'll fix everything.
Do you realize this could all be over
in two weeks?
We could have Donald Trump and his entire

(03:26:28):
administration out of office.
And it's so simple.
All we have to do is do a
general strike and basically just take vacation the
same week and shut this whole system down.
It's called a general vacation strike.

(03:26:49):
There will be no workers.
We'll all be in Margaritaville partying.
It's a great idea.
All the labor and everything will be shut
down.
There will be the economy will go.
This is bullcrap.
No one's going to do this.
This is like blackout.
Remember how successful that was?

(03:27:10):
Blackout, no kings, general strike.
It's weak.
You know what this is?
You know what this is?
This is Ohio.
Well, there you go.
Imagine all the people who could do this.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.

(03:27:35):
Waiting for the waiting for the whole show
to drop the Ohio bomb.
Yeah, there it is.
And of course, we have some people to
thank who supported us.
John's tip of the day, a birthday tip
of the day on the way.
We have some really good end of show
mixes.
The No Agenda Music Publishing Group is going
to be a super hit.
We're going to start our live stream 24
hour a day.

(03:27:55):
No Agenda show mixes is going to be
fantastic.
I'll have that up and running by Thursday.
As John thanks our 50 and above supporters
for our 18th anniversary episode.
Yeah.
Starting with James Agee, Agee, Agee, Agee, Agee
in Umatilla, Umatilla, Florida, 189.55. Also Sir

(03:28:17):
Dude Chink in Bastrop, Texas, 189.55. Bastrop,
baby, Bastrop.
Mickey Keck, Mickey Keck in Lost Wages, Nevada,
189.55. These are all happy well-wishers
telling us happy anniversary.
Nancy Chardavoyne, Chardavoyne, Chardavoyne in Centennial, Colorado, 189

(03:28:42):
.55. Sir Quo, what is this you think?
Boya, Bola, Bola, Koya.
Hold on, hold on, I'm not there yet.
Koya, Koya.
Koya.
Sir Koya, Sir Koya, Sir Koya.
I get it, it's a joke.
Sir Koya.
It's spelled funny just as a pun.
It's a pun in Santa Monica.

(03:29:02):
Sheesh, 181.81. Amy Harmon, Asheville, North Carolina,
181.80. David Fugazotto in Gladstone, there he
is.
There's our buddy.
Duke of America's heartland.
And Saudi Arabia Peninsula, 186.7. Yes.
So the 180s all refer to 18, 18

(03:29:23):
years.
Sir John in London, London, UK, 183.33.
He has a, he's getting knighted or something.
So he's got a longer note that we
read usually for these guys.
Yeah, I'll read this.
Dear John Adam, please find and close my
donation of 180.33 towards the show's 18th
anniversary.
Keep it going as long as you're enjoying

(03:29:44):
it.
This donation also takes me over the 7k
mark.
So please, could you give me the additional
title of Earl Kumar of South London?
No jingles, just karma, please.
Regards, Sir John of South London, Viscount Kumar
of South London, Commodore Kumar of the Seven
Seas, and now Earl Kumar of South London.

(03:30:04):
That deserves an in-donation segment karma.
You've got karma.
Wow.
He's definitely got the right idea with the
titles.
He sure does.
John Foley, Chicago Heights, 180.33. Earl Hugger
of Kitties in Zondam, Netherlands, Holland, 180.18.
Hug more kitties, he writes.

(03:30:25):
Yes.
Uh, Charles George in Evergreen, Colorado, 180.18.
Some symbols there I can't see.
I don't know what that is.
Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada, our regular.
She came in at 180.
Sure is the 18th year, she says.
Anonymous, 180.
Uh, Rhianne Kozinski in Carsland, Alberta, Canada, 157

(03:30:52):
.34. That might be enough to get.
It does.
This pushes her to associate executive producer.
So we have to.
You will get that.
Yeah.
To 1842.
So we have to read her note.
When I realized your anniversary, my birthday landed
on the same show day.
I knew it was time to be a
de-douched.
He's de-douching.
You've been de-douched.

(03:31:13):
I had hit people in the mouth whenever
I could, but it was time for me
to finally send some treasure.
You make my daily, uh, whoops, whoops, whoops,
whoops, whoops.
You make my, I don't know why this,
this cell is so big.
I have to scroll over to it.
You make my daily commute bearable.
We're great for commuters.
I can't have you finding your exit strategy
just yet.

(03:31:33):
I was hit in the mouth by my
smoking hot husband, Zach during COVID and last
donation was a switcheroo.
However, the $200 Canadian, Canadian, Canadian, Canadian, whatever
dollars wasn't recognized and his producer shit.
Oh, that's not good.
And his note wasn't recognized or acknowledged.
I, uh, hope my donation to 1842 plus

(03:31:55):
fees.
Canadian will be honored as an associate executive.
Yes, you will be.
Uh, it's legal to drink in Alberta at
18.
Did you know that I'm turning 42?
So I should finally be able to know
the answer to everything, right?
42.
It's a good call back.
Please add me to the birthday list for
jingles.
I'd like a special edit if you can.
No, we don't do that.
Of Bush's.

(03:32:15):
Just send your cash only followed by due
to climate change.
Little girl.
Yeah.
And it's free.
What we will do is, uh, we will
give you the F karma cancer in honor
of your dear friend, battling her second bout
of that terrible disease.
Of course.
You've got karma.

(03:32:36):
The problem with the Canadians, uh, us honoring
the Canadian and Australian dollar is that it's
so low on the list now that we
don't even think about it being enough for
associate.
That's why I got motion.
Yeah, that's what we got.
We got you.
Yeah.
And it was good.
You put it in a note to remind
us.
Anonymous in Columbus, Ohio.

(03:32:57):
One 31, a 66.
Gerald small in Gilbert, Arizona.
One, two, three, four, five donation.
We don't see enough of Richard Lindquist.
One Oh six 41.
And there he is.
Oh, that's not him.
No, this is Kate.
What happened to Kevin?

(03:33:18):
Where's Kevin?
He's gone.
Oh, no, he's not the bottom.
He's down lower.
He's down lower.
Kate McLaughlin, man.
She's not in, in, in the Carolina.
She's in Boise, Idaho.
100.
She says, quit complaining, John.
I can't hear it through the news.
I can hear it through the newsletter.
She says.
And then she gives me loves and kisses.

(03:33:39):
Thank you so much for your show.
And don't ever stop.
I will cry.
Yeah, we won't.
Yeah, we will.
Well, yeah, obviously.
We're already in gunsmoke territory.
That's right.
Van E.
Newman in Bernatello.
You forgot James Moran in Jackson.
James Moran in Jackson, California.

(03:34:00):
Jackson, which is a nice little town, by
the way, in California.
Move there.
Van E.
Newman in Bernalito, Mexico.
You're falling apart, old man.
Yeah, Adam Hearst.
He's in Heathcote, Australia.
100.
Toby in New Orleans.
And he has a happy.

(03:34:20):
He says he has a birthday for his
Halloween.
Yeah, Toby's 100 bucks.
He's in New Orleans.
John Bolter in Trabuco Canyon, California.
80, 86.
Daviti in Cumming, Georgia.
8008.
And there's Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina.
He's the Archduke of London.
Lover of America.
Lover of boobs.

(03:34:41):
And lover of everything in between.
Please save the sweater puppies.
Catherine Morton in Charlotte, North Carolina.
7903.
That's a birthday.
William S.
Merrill in Calabasas, California.
75.
And it says here this donation makes me
in his blank.
Well, congratulations.

(03:35:01):
You are.
Yeah, you're right.
Me, sir.
Commodore J.
Stroke in Norton, Ohio.
7080.
Oh, he wants to credit the donation to
Chupacabra Canoe LLC.
Okay, Chupacabra Canoe, you get this donation.
Joel Cox in Indianola, Pennsylvania.

(03:35:24):
Wow.
7061.
67, he says.
Baronet Michael Robinson in Salem, Oregon.
6718.
He talks about lucid dreaming.
Here's the one.
He's the guy who says tablespoon or two
of raw potato starch or flour.
It has to be raw.

(03:35:45):
I don't know about the flour.
It's not good raw.
Anyway, he says it gives you lucid dreams.
Give it a shot.
Unless he's putting us on.
Meanwhile, we got Franklin Monteroza in Dodge City,
Kansas.
67.
67.
And Sean Wright in Farmington, Connecticut.
67.

(03:36:06):
Frederick Vorderhacke.
Frederick Vorderhacke.
In Amsterdam.
5961.
Sir Becoming Heroic in Sherryville, Indiana.
5940.
33 cents an episode.
Sir Visa or Sir Vesa.

(03:36:27):
It'd be Sir Vesa.
It's a joke.
In Dallas, Texas.
5683.
He's looking for some jobs karma.
We'll give you some jobs karma at the
end.
Adam will remember to do that.
Sir Glenn.
5510.
Sir Mark Magpio.
5510.
Sir Prize Night of Astonishment in Yukon, Oklahoma.

(03:36:49):
5444.
We're getting there.
Rick LaBlanca.
5432.
Paolo Moore in Fort Washington, Maryland.
54.
Not Scared of Pagans.
Ah, I talked about that.
Okay.
Sir Chris of Sachse.

(03:37:09):
Sachse, Texas.
Is that right?
I guess.
5333.
Scott Kowalski in Lynchburg, Virginia.
5299.
He's been married for 29 years and they
never had a fight.
He and Amy.
Garbage Man Dave in Lombard, Illinois.
Yay, Dave.
5272.

(03:37:30):
Patrick Ekstrom in Brick Township, New Jersey.
5272.
Paul Ruge in Fort Thomas, Kentucky.
5272.
Nicholas St. Amour.
In Rowden, Quebec.
5272.
Hence the French name.
Robert Cox in Delphi, Indiana.

(03:37:53):
5150.
Foster Birch, New York City.
5115.
Gina, playing Gina in B.C., somewhere in
B.C., Canada.
I got a birthday call out.
She came in with 51.
Her hubby Eddie, yes.
Kate Hubbard.
Kelly.
Kate Hubbard.
Kelly Hubbard.

(03:38:14):
Kelly Hubbard in Plymouth, Minnesota.
5018.
Carl Vogler in Dillon Beach, California.
5018.
And now we get to our 50s.
And curiously, on a day like this, we
don't have that many.
But I'm going to give name and location,
starting with Brett Denton in Boise.

(03:38:35):
Melissa Alvarez in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida.
George Wuchet in Lavergne, Sir George.
Lavergne, Texas.
Kennel Patalia in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Upbeats Music Podcast in Copperas Cove.

(03:38:55):
Salty Crayon.
Michael Golub in Glen Burnie, Maryland.
And last on the list is Arthur.
Sitgera, Sitgera, Sitgera in Monroe, Georgia.
Yes.
$50.
These people all helped and made the show
1811 and the 18th anniversary show a rousing

(03:39:19):
success.
I would like to make an offer to
you.
What?
Would you like me to do the 50s
and above from now on?
Oh, really?
Okay.
I mean, just so people, I mean, it's
just, I mean, if I had some kind
of issue, you'd probably offer the same to
me.
I made two mistakes.

(03:39:40):
Okay.
But I want you to read them from
now on.
It'd be great.
I say it only out of love.
I mean, it's actually pretty good for the
show when you read them.
Because, you know, people love hearing it.
Yeah.
Okay.
I want you to read them.
But I'm being sincere.
No, I think it'd be great to listen
to you read them.
You might be faster.

(03:40:02):
Well, it doesn't matter.
Or not.
End of the show.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
I remembered that bit.
All right, everybody.
Thank you so much for supporting us on
our 18th anniversary.
Go to noagendadonations.com because on Thursday, we'll
be 18 years and one episode.

(03:40:24):
And we do not have a plan on
stopping until the value dries up.
It's very simple.
Value for value.
It works both ways.
We give you the show.
If you think it's valuable, you send some
value back.
And it's been going well so far.
So we will try and do 21.
Some people want four more years.
We'll see how that works out.
Just remember us at noagendadonations.com.
You can set up a recurring donation.

(03:40:44):
Any amount.
Any frequency.
It's all up to you.
noagendadonations.com Yeah, we got a list.
David Truman turns 38 today, actually.
Dame Slabian, sir.
Do the chink.
Do the chink.
Wish Black Dame Loka from Texas, Hot Glass,

(03:41:04):
a very happy one.
It's her birthday today, as well.
Gina B, her smoking hot hubby.
Eddie celebrates tomorrow.
Dame Zeld of Silicon Valley will have her
birthday on the 28th.
Adam Hirsch, happy birthday to his old deer,
D-E-A-R, on the 31st.
Sir Burns, his wife, Sir Burns' keeper, celebrates
on the 6th.

(03:41:24):
Rhianne Kosinski turns 42.
And Catherine Morton, wish her smoking hot husband,
Jeff Morton, a very happy birthday.
He turns 50 years old.
And we say happy birthday from everybody here
at the best podcast in the universe.

(03:41:48):
Wow, he really did his accounting.
7K in total to the show.
So a well-deserved title upgrade for Sir
John of South London.
He now becomes Earl Kumar of South London.
And we congratulate him with that, of course.
And then no more pesky jingles for the
Secretary's General.
Instead, ladies and gentlemen, we are proud to

(03:42:10):
present some peace prizes.
Not just any prize, but the No Agenda
International Peace Prize, as sent to the President
of the United States, the Vice President of
the United States, and the Speaker of the
House, Brandon Mango.
No, I'm sorry.
Yes, Brandon Mango, Bowman McMahon, and Sir Earhopper.

(03:42:30):
All of you deserve the No Agenda Peace
Prize.
Go to noagenderings.com so that we can
make sure we send it to the right
address.
And welcome you, Principals of Peace.
We appreciate you.
Can I make a correction?
What did I do wrong?
Well, you, it's not the Speaker of the
House.
He didn't do anything.

(03:42:51):
Well, OK.
It was going to be Wittkoff.
Oh, Wittkoff and Bushman.
The other thing is, we may be playing
that jingle again, because not everybody has checked
in.
Oh.
Oh.
You know the laggards.
We have laggards.
Laggards, yeah.
They're like, I'm going to give those guys
some cash.
I don't care.
And then, like, six months later, we end

(03:43:13):
up with this.
Here's our, why didn't I get my document?
Get your blade out, man.
Careful.
Don't cut yourself on that one.
There you go.
We have three knights to join us today.
Coincidentally, they're very similar to the Peace Prize
winners, Brandon Mango, David Coonan, and Matthew Burns.

(03:43:34):
Jump up on the podium here, gentlemen.
I'm very proud to pronunciate thee as Sir
Mango, the Knight of the Sweet Tooth, Sir
David of West Brabant, and Sir Burns of
the Good Future.
For you, gentlemen, we have Hookers & Blow,
Red Poison, Chardonnay.
We've got hot coffee and a stroopwafel.
Along with that, here at the round table,
beer and blunts, Lubeness, Lumen and Rosé, Gates

(03:43:55):
& Osaki, Vodka & Vanilla, Bognix & Bourbon,
Sparkling Cider & Escort, Ginger Ale & Gerbils,
Fresh Milk & Pabulum.
And as always at the round table, the
mutton and the meat.
Enjoy.
Everybody, head over to noagenderings.com.
That's where you can see your handsome knight
ring, which will be yours once you send
us the address to send it off to
you.
And with that, of course, we include some

(03:44:16):
wax.
With that, you can seal your important correspondence.
And as always, everything comes with a Certificate
of Authenticity.
Because it's real, you are a real knight
of the No Agenda round table.
Congratulations.
Always a party at these No Agenda meetups,

(03:44:36):
and they are happening around the world as
you will hear in a moment after we
give you two reports.
The first from Fort Wayne, which I think
was...
This was...
Was this a...
On the smaller side.
Adam and John.
Shannon reporting in from Fort Wayne.
And we had a small meetup.
We had a few that took advantage of
the weather and weren't here.
And another one that wasn't here was Pam

(03:44:57):
Bondi.
Adam Clark Curry.
John C.
Dvorak.
And she talks in syllables.
We love you, Pam.
And we're going to get the Epstein list
by Christmas.
Hey guys, this is Jason.
New guy in the room, but definitely having
a good time.
In the morning.
In the morning.
See you next time.
Adios and bon voyage.
What do you call two dudes in a

(03:45:19):
bar in Fort Wayne?
A meetup.
That's right.
More people in Los Altos.
But still, here's your meetup report.
In the morning here in downtown Los Altos,
giving you a report for the meetup.
This is Sir Rich Meiser.
This is Commodore dude named Ben named Ben.
Duke of San Francisco having a wonderful time
meeting new people.
And connection is protection.

(03:45:42):
Sir Julian here in Los Altos.
We're all at the edge of our seats,
waiting for John's book review of Minotaur Milking
Farm.
Sir Montauk learning all about glycine.
Hello, this is Abraham.
I'm recently divorced and I need a classy
broad in my life.
This is an anonymous lady in San Francisco
in the morning.
This is Sir Tin Death.

(03:46:04):
Resist we much.
This is Sir Rick Houser turned crazy Steve
II.
I just want to wish you two dudes
a happy 18th anniversary.
And please free Candace Owens.
Remember to include your servers in these reports,
people.
That's a way of hitting people in the
mouth.
We have a couple meetups taking place.
One today actually underway.

(03:46:25):
It is the TMI Three Mile Island EVAC
Zone.
It started at 3.33 Eastern time at
Evergreen Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
Tomorrow, Berlin gets together.
The Berlin ITM Slaves, 7.33 p.m.
at Folk's Bar at Rosa Luxemburg Platz in
Berlin, Germany.
I'm looking forward to a report from you.

(03:46:45):
And the final one for the month will
be on the 30th.
That is the North Georgia NOW quarterly meetup,
six o'clock, Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta,
Georgia.
Coming up, oh actually, the 31st, Leiden side.
Hold on, the Netherlands on the 31st.
Then we have Durango, Colorado on the 2nd.
Indianapolis on the 2nd.
Raleigh, North Carolina on the 6th.
Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 15th.

(03:47:06):
Albany, California.
John will be there on the 15th of
November.
Zurich, Switzerland.
Need your meetup report, 15th of November.
Burlington, Kentucky on the 22nd.
And many more to be found at noagentandmeetups
.com.
This is something you must witness at least
once in your life.
What's the one in November that I'm going
to be at?
November 15th, Albany, California.
It's right next door.
You're right there.

(03:47:27):
Pop out of the house.
Go say hi.
I'm sure we'll be at that pizza place.
No doubt about it.
Go to noagentandmeetups.com.
That's going to be at the Mallory Club
as usual.
I guess so.
noagentandmeetups.com.
These are the people that will give you
the connection.
It gives you pure protection.
The first responders in any emergency.
You will never regret going to your first
noagentandmeetup.
Go to noagentandmeetups.com to find out where

(03:47:48):
all of them are.
If you can't find one near you, start
one yourself.
It's easy and guaranteed a party.

(03:48:13):
Always like a party, man.
We've got our end of show mixes, which
are not all AI, but man, they are
getting good.
One minute 30 max, please, if you're going
to send it in.
And of course, you will be on our
new radio station.
We need to have a name for this
station.
I'm going to call it No Agenda what?
For our end of show mix radio station.

(03:48:36):
No, let's dream up a title right now.
That's why I'm throwing it out there.
No AI agenda.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
That's coming up.
If you're just going to condemn every suggestion,
it's not going to get any suggestions out.
That's right.
There's never a wrong suggestion in brainstorming.

(03:48:58):
How about Neo?
How about Neo radio?
Neo radio.
I think that's available.
It's actually a good URL.
No agenda real.
Finally, the troll room is waking up.
There we go.
No agenda real.
Yeah, but the problem is that indicates video.
It does.
Yeah, it's no good.
We'll work on it.
We'll find something.

(03:49:19):
We'll find something.
I saw something off the wall.
I saw time before we leave you.
Of course, we have John's tip of the
day.
So don't go anywhere.
I have three today and you seem to
have two.
Yeah, go with your three.
Wow.
Thanks a lot, guys.
Okay.
That's one.
You know what?
100%.
Well, wait.

(03:49:40):
White supremacy.
Right.
Oh, that's my last one.
Kind of like that.
That's Maduro, by the way.
Oh, was it?
Yes.
Okay, I got a couple here.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think which one to play
first.

(03:50:01):
Oh, let's do Walter Cronkite.
How do they do it?
Nobody knows.
Okay, Kennedy.
That was a humdinger of a show.
Okay, there's just nothing competing.
You can't compete with Kennedy.
AI Kennedy, I'm sure.
Hey, everybody.
It's time again for John's tip of the
day.

(03:50:22):
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with JCD and sometimes Adam.
All right.
So we're back through the rotation, back to
cleaning products.
But this is not a cleaning liquid or
detergent or anything.
This is a multi-purpose portable carpet and

(03:50:47):
upholstery cleaner for car, auto detailer, blah, blah,
blah.
It's good for everything, especially if you have
dogs.
I have a dog.
I need this product.
I have a very dirty car.
This is another Bissell product.
This is specifically called, you have to look
this up.
They have, Mimi claims she got one at

(03:51:08):
Costco for 70 bucks.
Whoa.
They're 90 bucks or more.
99 bucks at Amazon.
It's not a cheap product.
What is it called?
It's called the Little Green Multi-Purpose Portable
Carpet and Upholstery Cleaner.
It's a small device.
It's the little green with a lot of

(03:51:28):
suction.
And she swears by, claims she uses it
every day.
The Little Green Carpet Cleaner by Bissell.
I'm looking at it now.
Wow.
Pronounce Bissell, but okay.
Okay.
Well, look, just because I said I would
read this, the donation.
No, you're reading the description.
You're getting all pissy at me about it.
I'm trying to be nice.

(03:51:50):
The Little Bissell, is it Bissell?
Yeah, Bissell.
Bissell.
So it really sucks.
It sucks.
And they have actually, they have little green
oxy liquid that you put in it.
Yes.
There's a special liquid.
It takes off everything.
It's great for upholstery.

(03:52:11):
Yeah.
It's a winner.
Hmm.
Interesting.
And, uh, and of course, Mimi would know
because she's got the dogs, right?
She's got tons of dogs.
There it is, everybody.
Find all of the tips at tipoftheday.net.

(03:52:35):
That's right.
Created by Dana Brunetti.
So, you know, it's quality.
It's a quality product right here, everybody.
Quality stuff.
Uh, that's it for our 18th anniversary show.
Thank you all for being here.
We appreciate you.
Every single one of you.
Uh, let's see.
Coming up next.
Oh, how about that?
We have the podcasting 2.0 show.

(03:52:58):
I did that one just the other day.
It's titled Fuzzing.
If you want to know what's going on.
I didn't even promote.
Titled what?
Fuzzing.
Fuzzing.
Fuzzing is fuzzing.
Is that like Ohio?
No.
Another term I'm not aware of.
It's a technical term.
Developers use this.
Fuzzing.
Fuzzing.

(03:53:18):
Explain before we go.
No, we don't have enough time.
Oh, brother.
Just hang around and listen to it on
the No Agenda Streamer, your modern podcast app.
End of show mixes.
Nico Sime.
We got Sir Michael Anthony with a non
-AI mix.
Mark Van Patten and Bree or Bry, I
guess.

(03:53:38):
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country.
For the 18th year going into 19 in
the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
We return on Thursday for our 18th year
plus one.
Please join us and remember us at noagendadonations
.com.
Until then, adios, fo-fos, a-hoo-wee

(03:53:59):
-hoo-wee, and such.

(03:54:28):
These days can't read a clock.
Round face can't let time fly.

(03:54:59):
Tick tock.
What a shock.
Clock to feel double-crossed.
Who ain't

(03:55:21):
getting that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,

(03:55:43):
that, that, that, that, that, that Baby, you
wanna see a human with those little bulldozer,
baby Cause this is the punk I'm referring
to If you think you can fuck me,
believe me, I'll take you right back home
I'm not gonna fuck a monster, monster You're
not getting that, you ain't seeing that What
are you not letting me see?

(03:56:08):
I want to go where I'll go I'll
go with you I'll go with them I'll
go with them There you go Ah

(03:56:37):
-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah Ah-ah-ah
-ah-ah-ah There is only one podcast
I like to hear It's hosted by our
Adam and our John C.

(03:56:57):
Deere They masticate and separate the M5M And
show us all the ghoulish things that live
within They show love to monsters They're worse
than the politicians Psychopathic news anchors Lie with

(03:57:21):
a devilish grin When Adam and Devorah met
her back and forth Committed double action made
that mainstream's worse The funny and the serious
intersect As they warn us about the industrial
complex They show love to monsters They're worse

(03:57:49):
than the politicians Psychopathic news anchors Lie with
a devilish grin And
the social media gets ya if you don't

(03:58:10):
watch out Woo!
The best podcast in the universe Audio, mofo,
devorak.org, slash, N, A That was a

(03:58:32):
humdinger of a show

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