1817 - "Stunt Grenade" - No Agenda Show

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Complain more.
Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak.
It's Sunday, November 19th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1817.
This is no agenda.
We are smoking hot.
And broadcasting live from the heart of the
Texas smoke country here in FEMA region number
six.

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Good morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
Time for Northern Silicon Valley, where we've noticed
Ukraine is falling apart.
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
It's crackpot and buzzkill.
In the morning.
I didn't expect to start there.
I didn't either.
I had some other schemes as my opener,

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but then that came to mind.
Oh, well.
The French 24 this morning, that's all they
were talking about.
They had these attractive Ukrainian women going on
about how bad the government is.
Oh, yeah.
This is, and by the way, you and
I are both shocked.
What?
Shocked that it's falling apart?
No, that Ukraine's corrupt.

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Well, hold on a sec.
First of all, we have to understand there's
nothing to worry about.
Queen Ursula is going to take care of
Ukraine for at least the next two years.
We just have to figure out which one
of the three options we will use to
pay for it.
John, this is a quiz.
We are now working very closely with Belgium
and all the member states on options.

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How to deliver on this commitment?
It's clear we will deliver and we will
cover the financial needs of Ukraine for the
next two years.
The discussion is now on the how.
And there are three options.
Here we go.
Option one is to use the budget's headroom
to raise money on the capital markets.
Oh, okay.

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Option two is to have an intergovernmental agreement
that member states raise the necessary capital by
themselves.
And option three is to have a reparations
loan.
This is based on immobilized Russian assets.
Ah, I pick number three.
What do you pick?
What do you think is the best one
there?
Steal it from the people or steal it

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from the Russians?
Well, they want to steal it from the
Russians, but they know that they're trading on
thin ice.
So they will steal it from the people.
Oh, you think that they'll steal it from
the people?
Yeah, because they can get away with that.
Stealing from the Russians is not going to
work out long-term and they know it.
The other thing is the Ukrainians, why would
you, they're already stealing the money we're giving

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them already.
I have a little- What, are you
going to give them more money?
That's the solution to the problem.
I have a little update from my boy,
Andrew Rasoulis.
Ah!
Yeah, yeah, he's got us the update.
You want to do that now or at
the end of the presentation?
Because he's the best.
Well, he's, these are pretty short, actually.
He was on CBC, he's dressing in a

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suit now.
He used to be kind of cash.
I've never seen him.
Oh, well, he used to be cash in
a sweater and now he's, now he's in
a suit.
Oh, so they clued him in.
I think so.
Okay, so first of all, it appears Russia
is winning.
The Russians have managed through very determined attritional
warfare over months now.

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And they've been working on Park Forest, this
main hub.
And they have been wearing down the Ukrainians,
again, war of attrition.
And they're now about to achieve what will
be an operational level success, which means a
significant success, more than tactical, less than strategic,
but significant on the battlefield.

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Whatever that is.
I love it.
It increases the momentum of Russia's advance westward.
Next time in a meeting.
You know, that's a really good idea, Bob.
That is more than strategic, less than tactical.
I'm really digging that.
I think you're onto something here.
Well, of course, the big thing now is
as winter draws, which means it'll soon be
the end of the fighting season.

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We always have to remember, we have fighting
seasons and it's about to draw to a
close.
We all just go, nah, we're not gonna
fight right now.
The season's over.
And that is the energy attacks.
They're targeting even greater than they did last
year.
Not only the electrical grid, which is what
they've been working on for the last couple
of years and, you know, lights out stuff.

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Now they're going after, in addition to the
energy, the gas, that is the heating source
for a lot of Ukrainian cities like in
Kiev, which are centrally controlled.
If you take out one of these generators
that put the hot air, hot water throughout
the heating systems in the town, everything goes

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down.
They all get cold and much harder to
fix.
So what the Russians are doing is wearing
down the morale of the Ukrainian people so
that then they try to pressure the Ukrainian
government to come to terms with Russia, not
just saying a ceasefire, but a ceasefire that
also gives the Russians what they want in
terms of Ukrainian neutrality, no NATO and regime

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change possibly.
Ooh, ooh, ooh.
This does not sound good for Volodymyr.
And of course, add to that the corruption
and well, I don't know.
But politically, it certainly destabilizes the Zelensky government.
I don't think it's a strategic defeat for
him yet.
He's surviving.
He's at war.

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And there are those who say, well, it's
the best we've got, you know.
And the Lithuanian minister of government the other
day said, this is a terrible event, but
this is all we've got.
So we got to keep going.
And there's that kind of attitude.
But yes, the point is that that's just
one attitude.
There are the people on the ground in
Ukraine, those who are supposed to go off

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and fight, who are a lot of them
are trying to not go off and fight.
And when the energy grid is being hit
and they're trying to rebuild it, and yet
there's about a 15% scam taking place
or was taking place with profiteering from the
efforts to rebuild this energy grid, people are
saying, what's this all about?
What are we fighting about?
People are just putting money in their pockets.

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So maybe Ukraine as a Western model isn't
so great.
And therefore we shouldn't really be fighting and
putting our lives on the risk.
Yeah, really, what are we doing?
And the results, our friend Andrew Rasoulis believes
will be more concessions in the peace talks
and what we've always said, an armistice or

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a ceasefire.
And there never will be actual peace.
Well, I think Ukraine will give major concessions.
It's already gonna lose 20% of its
territory.
The Ukrainians have recognized that.
They understand they cannot retake the land that
Russia currently occupies through military force.
They refer to diplomatic solutions.
That's already a concession.
The question is additional concessions.

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And that's why politically, there is no room
for negotiations at present.
The Russians are prevailing.
I prefer that term rather than winning.
They're prevailing and they see that if they
continue further military action, they will have further
gains.
And one of their key objectives right now
is to take before Oblast the full administrative

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boundaries.
They control large parts, but not everything.
And they will continue to push until they
get that because Ukrainians are refusing to cede
it.
So that will be taken by military force.
And then the question is, will a ceasefire
come into place at that point?
Because it's unlikely that a political settlement anywhere

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near what the Russians are demanding of the
Ukrainians will come out unless the Ukrainians are
completely broken.
I think a ceasefire in a very hard,
cold peace is more likely to come.
There it is.
There it is.
And of course we need to use this
war to figure out jobs for people.

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And Germany, which has lost everything, the economic
production motor of the EU is dead thanks
to no Russian energy, cheap Russian energy.
And so what do we do?
I know, let's build up our military and
let's tell the kids they can join voluntarily
for now.

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Faced with growing Russian threats and an unreliable
US partner under the Trump administration, Germany has
agreed to a new military plan to boost
its numbers.
There is no reason for concern or fear
because the lesson is clear.
Nothing to be concerned about, children.
The more capable our armed forces are of
deterrence and defense through armament, training and personnel,
the less likely we are to become a

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party of conflict.
And that serves everyone.
That is the lesson we learned from the
Cold War.
Okay, so more people in military, the more
peaceful it is.
Okay, check.
The coalition government will focus on voluntary service
by making it more attractive to young people.
Attractive.
Starting next year, all 18-year-old men
will have to fill in a questionnaire on

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whether they would want to serve and undergo
a medical test.
There will be other financial incentives as well
to encourage people to join the military.
But the agreement has not been without its
hurdles, particularly over questions regarding mandatory service.
While there are no plans to reinstate conscription,
it's not off the table.
We want to inspire as many young people

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as possible to serve their country.
If voluntary participation ultimately proves insufficient, there will
also need to be a mandatory obligation aiming
for a conscription system that enlists as many
individuals as necessary to ensure our defense capabilities.
You will fight for us and you will
be happy.
You don't- You jumped to Germany and

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you left Ukraine hanging there.
I'm not sure why.
What do you mean?
That's because she literally started with because of
Ukraine.
I'm not sure why you missed that.
Yeah, but we still need to talk about
Ukraine.
I have a couple of clips.
Oh, well, I don't look at your clips,
so how could I know?
Well, I tried to, I mentioned it earlier
and you just ignored me.

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The Ukraine corruption is the clip.
So this is you being a dick to
me where I usually become mean to you.
No, no, no, I said that- No,
you could have said- When you said
the Versulus clip, I said, well, I can
play something first and then you went on
to discuss- No, you didn't say that.
You said, do you want to do that
at the end of something?
That's what you said.
Yeah, at the end of the clip I
wanted to play, which was the Ukrainian corruption
clip.

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Oh, well, but why didn't you just say
that?
Because you steamrolled me, that's why.
You are the worst, worst partner in 18
years ever.
I didn't steamroll you.
I want to hear, I want input from
the ladies.
Corruption probe in Ukraine says associates of President

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Zelensky plotted to skim millions from the country's
energy sector.
And PR's Joanna Kikisis has more.
This probe is extensive.
It took 15 months, used about 1,000
hours of wiretaps.
There were seven alleged participants, including Timur Mindich.
He's a close business associate of Zelensky's.
Investigators say this group manipulated contracts at Enerhoatom,

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which is Ukraine's state nuclear energy company, and
they got kickbacks laundering roughly $100 million.
The scandal has forced the resignation of two
ministers in Zelensky's government so far, but Zelensky
has not been implicated in this probe and
he is calling for the prosecution of those
accused of committing crimes.
Yeah, we played those clips on Thursday.
Well, that just played yesterday.

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But we played, okay.
Okay.
Sorry for your breaking news.
And what is the other Ukraine clip you
have?
You said clips.
We're just gonna stay with that.
The point I wanted to make, which is
kind of lost in the shuffle here, is
that if we haven't noticed, Zelensky killed, you

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know, besides putting the kibosh on the religion
and everything else and the media and then
stopping elections, he'd be out scot-free if
he had allowed elections in the regular election
cycle and got voted out and moved to
the 10 houses or whatever the hell he's
accumulated and just gotten out of the country.

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It's beyond me why he's still there.
He's going to end up dead.
No, I don't think so.
I think the EU wants him alive.
He's the perfect little showbiz bunny for them.
And that they can do all this other
stuff like steal money from people to fund
him.
Well, the EU does want him alive, but

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that doesn't mean he's- Well, who would
want him dead?
This corruption can get out of control so
quickly that you get caught up in it.
There's no way the EU can support it.
Hold on.
Corruption in Ukraine?
Hello, last 50 years.
It's always been corrupt.
Always.
But it's always been, it's like the Burisma
material.
Oh, man.

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It's always been corrupt, but it always gets
swept under the rug.
But if this situation that's occurring now is
getting out of control, they won't be able
to stop it.
No.
Zelensky's going to get caught up in it.
He's done.
No, no.
Give me a timeframe for him being done.
There's no heir apparent.

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Too much.
Ha ha ha.
You heard it first, podcast enthusiasts.
I don't think so.
I think he's going to stick around.
They love the guy.
I'm not saying that they don't like him.
Yeah, but who's going to kill him?
He's not going to be killed.
He's going to be arrested.
He's going to be kicked out.
There's going to be a vote, a non

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-confidence vote in the government.
He's going to be ousted one way or
the other.
And within two months.
Maybe.
I don't think so.
I think they'll drag this out.
You heard that first, podcast audience.
Podcast enthusiasts is the term.
Enthusiasts.
Enthusiasts.
Pod, pod, pod, what is it?
Podverse.
Podcast enthusiasts.

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Yes.
I'm sorry.
I did not realize.
I did not understand what you said.
Otherwise I of course would have played your
clip first.
You always have priority with me.
No, did my clips always lead to the
conclusion clip when you have Versulus?
He should be the last guy we play.
Well, you shouldn't have asked that as a
question then.
You should have said, no, my clip first.

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Then it would have been easier for you
to understand.
I can do that.
Remember, I don't listen to your clips.
No, but you look at them.
But I, you know, the Ukraine was stuck
between Zed Riots Mexico and UK Nexus, which
caught my eye, obviously.
I'm like- Oh, the UK Nexus is
good, yeah.
Well, I'm going to leave it up to
you where you want to go because I'm

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afraid now.
Well, you were still talking about arming the
poor German kids who are going to be
without work anyway.
That was it.
That was all I had.
The only other thing I have is is
the Eurovision Song Contest news.
Oh, that's not coming around again, is it?
I thought we just did that like a
couple of weeks ago.
It's worse.

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Of the many headlines to come out of
the federal budget today, one that you may
have missed has to do with Canada and
Eurovision.
Mark Carney wants CBC to explore getting the
country to participate in the European Song Contest.
Now Canada is going to participate in Eurovision
in the Song Contest.
Wait, and this is going to cost them
money?
If they win.

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I mean, if they don't win, that doesn't
cost a lot of just to send some
schlub over there with a bad three minute
song.
But I think what the, well, if you're
interested, I'll play the whole report.
Carney has got to be, you should.
Carney is like, we have to remember that
Carney was the head of the Bank of
England.
Yeah, he's a Nexus guy.
He's trying to ruin Canada.
Yes, yes he is.

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So he's not even Canadian.
Ah, this is a good point.
Now the British are famous for losing.
They're famous.
It's a national pastime to laugh about the
Eurovision Song Contest and see if Britain will
come in, if England, UK I should say,
if they will come in last again.
So maybe this is Carney trying to say,

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well, you know what?
It was just you guys.
Let's move Canada into that spot of perpetual
loser.
Well, if you listen to this professor who's
about to talk about it, we have had
some actual Canadians win just not representing Canada.
On test, I guess, beyond Europe.
Joining us now is journalist and Eurovision expert,
Karen Fricker.

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She's also an adjunct professor at Brockham.
Yes, and they could have called me for
that.
University professor.
From Toronto.
So the concept of Canada's participation in Eurovision
apparently is nothing new, though new to me.
What did you think of the prime minister
pitching this?
I was extremely surprised and kind of excited

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as a Canada-based Eurovision lover.
Of course, this is a tantalizing proposition.
Tantalizing.
But it is a contest based in Europe
run by the European Broadcasting Union, but it's
not unprecedented for a non-European country to
compete.
Australia has been competing for the past 10
years.
Yeah, they're in Europe.
So there's an angle.
Yeah, so let's back up for a sec.

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What drew you into this?
How are you a Canadian who is so
introverted?
Why am I doing this bit with you?
Excited by the Eurovision contest.
I lived in Ireland for 10 years.
I did my PhD in Ireland and everybody
knows Eurovision there.
It's an absolute household name thing.
And as somebody who loves pop music and

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spectacle, I just couldn't believe I didn't know
anything about it.
And so I've been researching it for over
25 years.
Well, I mean, if you see Eurovision to
me, the first thing that I would think
of is ABBA and Waterloo.
So music and spectacle certainly are associated in
my mind with it.
I don't know that I can name a
lot of other winners, but it doesn't matter.
Well, I can help you, Ian.

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Yep, yep.
Celine Dion was.
Ah, yes.
Representing Switzerland, I think, right?
Exactly, but there's Canadian precedent here.
Yes, you see, if only- Celine Dion
is from Switzerland?
No, she's Canadian, but she represented Switzerland.
Well, that's a scam.
Yes, of course it is.
They only put the Beatles up there, you
know.
Yeah, they're representing Berkeley.

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Are you forgetting when Madonna was in it?
Didn't Madonna, did she just perform, was it?
They're putting all kinds, it's kind of like
when we send our best basketball guys to
the Olympics.
Like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is a
- Yeah, which is a recent phenomenon, I
should mention.
At least 10 years, maybe more, maybe 12

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years.
Yeah, but traditionally, we played fair.
We did, we always sent the college kids.
We used to, college kids used to be
amateurs.
Yeah, well- And the Olympics was supposed
to be for amateurs, not people who got
paid to do that job.
What was the first- And so they've
corrupted that.

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First, they corrupted the Olympics with professional athletes,
and now they're corrupting college sports by paying
the college kids, which they deserve, because they
bring in large audiences, and I've always advocated
for it.
But let's be, don't kid ourselves.
There are some people that make more money
playing college football than they will when they're
professionals.
So the dream team, the NBA professionals competed

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in the Olympics was 1992.
That's not just recent.
It is, to me.
Most of my life, it was amateurs.
Right, but the Zeds who listened to our
show weren't even born then.
So- Well, the Zeds.
The Zeds, baby, the Zeds.
I love the new Zeds.

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This whole Mexico thing is fantastic.
This is, Mimi called me about this, talking
about the Zeds in Mexico, but she didn't,
the way that she was given the report,
which I think was on the networks, they
didn't mention it was a Zed, you know,
part of the Zed phenomenon.
I had to explain that she knows that
because she listens to the show.
But it's Zeds.
And is it the CIA running?

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I mean- Well, no, okay.
I'm not gonna argue that for sure because
I'm convinced it's the CIA too, because that's
why, but they're doing it selectively.
And so they're going after Mexico because they're
not cooperating with us.
So maybe Trump is, you know- Yes,
yes, keep going.
This is part of the North Sea Nexus.
This is cutting off the British drug trade

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into our country through Mexico.
So here we go with the Zed riots,
Mexico one.
Now we turn to Mexico City, where protests
this afternoon turned violent.
They were organized by young people, Generation Z,
Generation Z, Generation Z, who say they're speaking
out against a narco government.
These are the largest anti-government protests since

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President Claudia Sheinbaum took office more than a
year ago.
Protesters have broken through a police barricade and
police have thrown tear gas and stun grenades
at them.
I spoke with NPR's Eder Peralta, who is
in Mexico City near the protest crowds.
Eder, we can hear you out there on
the streets.
What is it that we're hearing and that
you're seeing?
I mean, look, this protest started peaceful through

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the center of downtown, and now it has
reached the Zócalo, which is Mexico City's main
square.
And it has turned violent.
The government had put large metal barricades to
try and block protesters from reaching the presidential
palace.
And protesters have now torn through the metal
barricades, and they are trying to get through

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riot police.
Riot police are firing tear gas, and they're
firing stunt grenades.
Stunt?
Did he say stunt?
Stunt grenades?
Yeah, when one hits you, you do a
backflip.
Stunt grenades, everybody.
Firing tear gas, and they're firing stunt grenades,
and this crowd is not leaving.

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They say they're looking for change in this
country.
They say that they want this government to
take their suffering seriously.
They say they want the pact that they
say exists between the Narcos and the government
to end today, and that's what they're here
for.
And they say they're not leaving until they
get that.

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Yes, what do we want?
We want change.
Okay, all right.
I'm gonna ask you a question in advance
of the rest of these clips.
There's only two more.
What are they doing to get, what has
somebody discovered in one of the agencies that
can get this to happen?

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In other words, what I'm looking for is,
is there a psychological trigger, or is there
something you can do to get the entire
generation of Zeds to get worked up, riled
up, and out there throwing rocks?
Why don't you play your clips, and then
I'll answer that with my clips.
You actually, okay, good.
I think I can answer it, yes.

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Because it's fascinating to me, because there has
to be something, because this is too easy.
Yeah, no, it's very simple.
It really is.
Okay, here we go, clip two.
Eder, what prompted these protests?
You know, what happened here is a small
-town mayor was murdered at the beginning of
November.
And this mayor, he was the mayor of
Uruapan, Michoacan, and he had taken a full

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-frontal approach to fighting organized crime in his
city.
And what he said is, you know, we're
gonna shoot first and ask questions later.
And he would get on helicopters and order
his police to shoot at narco-traffickers, or
what he said were narco-traffickers.
And then, November 1st, on Day of the

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Dead, he was shot dead in the middle
of his town in front of everyone, in
front of a large crowd.
And protests erupted almost immediately in his town.
They were asking for justice.
They were asking for those responsible to be
held accountable.
And now the protests have spread to Mexico
City.
And this is remarkable, Sasha, because, and what's

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remarkable about it is that we just haven't
seen in recent memory an anti-organized crime
protest.
And right now, I mean, I'm in the
middle of this square and they're calling for
the president's resignation.
And they're saying, you know, that this is
a narco government, just colluded with the narcos.
And they say they're done with that.

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And they want the government to take a
much stronger stance against organized crime in this
country.
Yeah.
What outfit is this, by the way?
Is this NPR?
Yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Once in a while, they do good work.
Ah, they're missing a lot.
Although, you know, there's still no analysis, which
is my complaint, which you will address as

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we, this is the last clip.
And Eder, how is the government of Mexico
reacting to all that?
Well, they're saying that this was a march
organized by the opposition.
I mean, to be honest, I've covered many
marches in this country where they do tend
to bust people in.
This is not that.
This is a cross section of Mexican society,

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from the upper class to the lower class,
from old to young.
And so this seems like Claudia Sheinbaum's, President
Claudia Sheinbaum's first real test as a president.
And she's extremely popular.
Her popularity, her approval rating is at 70%.
So this is an odd thing that we're

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seeing here in Mexico.
That is NPR's Eder Peralta reporting from Mexico
City.
Eder, thank you for covering this and please
be safe.
Thank you, Sasha.
Please be safe.
I like the odd thing.
That was good.
That was good.
This was the noteworthy part, which is in
the third clip where he goes, you know,
I've seen these things before.
This is nothing like that.
This is totally different.
It's alien.

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The woman, Sheinbaum, is really popular, but now
everyone hates her.
I mean, he was befuddled.
I would guess clueless as to the fact
that this is manufactured somehow.
Yeah.
And he's not even noticing that, which is
a problem that we have with the media.
Yes.

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Well, that's why you have to go to
Al Jazeera, which is, yes, Al Jazeera had
a pretty good report.
How do you motivate Gen Z to do
anything?
Well, first of all, you use Discord.
I could only find Spanish reports with the
Discord in it, so I can't play any
of that.

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But there were several Spanish news reports mentioning
that these were organized on Discord.
So there's that.
The second thing, you gotta hand out cool
flags because they were manufactured, brand new, beautifully
made pirate flags, like skull and crossbone flags.
Oh, is it that pirate flag that I
discussed before?
Yes, it's the skull and crossbones.

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The one with the sombrero?
No, there's no sombrero on it, no.
Oh, that's interesting.
But they are your beautiful made-in-China
flags.
And as a part of the meme for
this mayor, you hand out hats.
So when you've got Discord, you've got hats,
you've got flags.

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This is ridiculously, probably completely accurate, but ridiculously
simplistic approach to getting people riled up.
Here's the report.
Flags, hats.
In the streets of Mexico City, fed up
with corruption and violence of drug cartels, demonstrators
tore down metal walls protecting the National Palace.
They blame President Claudia Sheinbaum for not doing

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enough to bring justice and investigate the assassinations
of at least 10 politicians since she took
office one year ago.
Protesters are demanding that the police focus on
protecting them from criminal networks rather than cracking
down on demonstrations that call for meaningful change.
Some carried the Generation Z pirate emblem flag

(27:40):
used by young protesters in Nepal, Morocco, and
Peru.
Others wore straw hats, a symbol of Carlos
Manso, the mayor of the Western city of
Uruapan gunned down two weeks ago, yet another
victim of drug cartels.
Ahead of the march, President Sheinbaum said the
protests are a strategy paid by foreigners linked

(28:00):
to right-wing groups.
There may be young people who disagree with
us and that's part of democracy, but it's
very important to know how this mobilization was
orchestrated.
There is evidence that many of the promoters
have nothing to do with Generation Z, but
rather that this is a political operation even
financed from abroad.

(28:21):
Hello.
They're just saying it now.
Now, the way I view this under the
lens of the North Sea Nexus is this
is where all of the fentanyl is coming
from.
It's a huge narco state, obviously.
Sheinbaum doesn't want to cooperate.
And we have to remember, $800 million was

(28:45):
laundered through HSBC, a British bank, even though
it's the Hong Kong-Shanghai.
What is it?
What's the B and the N?
It'd be, you know, C.
Well, but that is, you know, it's basically
a British bank, which was laundered through them
during the Obama years.
And that was a big scandal, which pay
a fine.
It's okay, we're fine.

(29:06):
We'll just keep on moving.
So this is part of shutting down the
British drug trade money, and this is the
big money through Mexico, completely explained by Mexican
Senator Lili Tellez, Tellez, Tellez, Tellez, Tellez, who
went on Fox, much to her peril, and

(29:29):
explained exactly what's going on.
This is the intro.
President of Mexico is furious.
She's calling Mexican Senator Lili Tellez a traitor
for coming on Fox Noticias with me a
few days ago and saying this.
The help from the United States to fight
the cartels in Mexico is absolutely welcome, and
that is how the majority of Mexicans feel.

(29:51):
The only ones who don't like that President
Trump is sending help and trying to support
Mexicans against the cartels are the narco politicians.
That includes President Scheinbaum.
Mexican President Claudia Scheinbaum responding saying, quote, it's
not a minor issue that a senator gave
an interview to a foreign media outlet calling
for intervention.
Here to discuss is that Mexican Senator Lili

(30:14):
Tellez.
Senator Tellez, welcome to Fox Noticias.
I'm just gonna get right to it.
Is Mexico a narco state?
Yes, it is, and we all Mexicans know
about it, and Mexicans are afraid of the
alliance between the Mexican government and the cartels
that have infested our nation.

(30:35):
So very brave.
Well, this is new to, is this new
to the Mexicans, this idea?
No, not to the Mexicans, but it's, but
you hear she's saying we welcome the support.
I think this is the support coming from
us stirring all of this up, and here's
the rest of the interview.
Go ahead.
Just quickly, I went to do a search
on the Mexican riots, and they're using the

(30:57):
flag with the little straw hat on it.
Oh, they are?
I haven't seen, the only one I saw
in that report was the skull and crossbones.
Well, it's skull and crossbones, but it's got
a little straw hat on the top.
It's a manga character.
Oh, okay.
Can you explain this alliance?
I didn't see, that was not what I
saw in the...
I'm just looking at the photos.

(31:18):
Okay.
Can you explain this alliance between the president,
her party, the Morena party, and the cartels?
Yes, the party has finance, has given, the
cartels have given so much money to these
politicians, narco politicians of Morena, to get into
office, to get the power.

(31:39):
So they protect, the Mexican government protects the
cartels.
That is why President Schoenbaum doesn't want the
strong American leadership to help Mexico defeat the
cartels.
And also, Schoenbaum doesn't want the rest of
the world to know what is happening here

(32:00):
in Mexico.
We are on the steps to be the
next Venezuela.
She's aligned with Venezuela as dictator, with Cuba,
and we are losing our country.
They have destroyed our republican institutions, the democratic
state, and we must, I think we all

(32:23):
Mexicans want and welcome the support of the
United States to assist Mexican people against the
cartels that have us all in this crisis
with the trafficking fentanyl and migrants.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, we're not messing around now.

(32:45):
I guess we got fed up.
And remember, it was Rubio who said, no,
was it Witkoff who said, oh yeah, no,
we're taking care of stuff.
Look, we're doing stuff in Morocco.
And Morocco, what do we have?
Gen Zed.
Gen Zed discourse flags march.
By the way, just as an aside, we

(33:06):
have Gen Zedders out there, and I guess
there's, you know, I don't know where you
can get one of these, but I need
one of the pirate flags with the little
straw hat for my collection.
I need one too.
I will fly it.
I have a flagpole.
I will fly it.
I don't know about doing that.
I will fly it.
Oh, of course.
It'll be fun.
Yeah, I'll fly it.
No problem.

(33:27):
See, what you've done is you upped the
ante to make it so somebody's gonna send
you the flag instead of me, and I'm
the one that always solicits free stuff.
You're getting the clue.
You did a good, that was good.
I'll give you 10 points for that trick.
Before I forget.
I'll fly it.
Okay, what am I gonna, I kinda can't
top that.
You don't have a flagpole?
No, I don't have a flagpole.

(33:49):
What?
What is that?
Why is that so funny?
What?
I'm in a little town, I'm in the
suburbs, and I'm gonna have a flagpole?
I'd look like a total douchebag.
Are you kidding me?
I'm in California.
You don't have a ham antenna you can
use as a flagpole?
Flagpole.
Well, since we're on free stuff, thank you
to Trevor Lohman, PhD.

(34:11):
He's the real deal, Trevor Lohman.
And he has published two books.
He's published two books.
One is God's Eye View, and right there
on the cover is a perfect star that
says, read this book!
John C.
Dvorak, host of No Agenda Show, host of
DH Unplugged.

(34:31):
And then he sends me his new book,
Shroud Pilled, and right there at the top,
not even on the back cover, on the
front cover.
Yeah, right in the front.
That's where you want it.
Yeah, it's not one of those blurbs in
the back, which is for weenies.
A must-read book.
Adam Curry, host of the No Agenda Show,
inventor of podcasting.
I mean, you will want to read this

(34:52):
book when you see that endorsement.
It's like, oh, that guy.
You're getting a clue.
Yeah, it's taking me a little bit, but
yeah, I'm catching on to it.
Well, I've said this before.
I didn't want to reiterate this anecdote, but
I will.
With my former book agent, John Brockman, and
I worked for him, too, but he's a

(35:13):
good friend of mine, he still is.
And he told me that Alan Watts, the
very famous Zen Buddhist writer, Alan Watts, everyone
who's into Buddhism knows this guy.
He told Brockman once, he says, I'll, anyone
who asks me for a blurb, I'll just
do it.
He says, because what, it never does you
any harm.
It just does you nothing but good vibes.

(35:35):
It's a great thing to do.
And so I blurb everything I can.
I'll do forwards, too.
And I run into people every so often,
and they say, can you give me a
blurb for this?
And I'm, no, no, I don't have time
to read it.
You know, just do it.
No, no, what you do now, these days,
you say, yeah, could you send me the
manuscript?

(35:56):
Well, you can get the PDF for most
books nowadays, yeah.
Right, so send me the manuscript.
What do you do?
Flop it in the chat, GPT.
Give me a little synopsis.
Write me a blurb.
Bob's your uncle.
A blurb's always gonna be the, read this
book.
I mean, what kind of chat GPT's gonna
write too much?
It'll be too long.
Well, if you're doing a forward, you said

(36:17):
you did forwards.
Oh, a forward, oh God, yeah.
You don't wanna have to read the book
for a forward.
Just put it in the chat, GPT.
I'm with you.
Yeah, that's not a bad idea.
I'm with you on this.
Then you can edit it back.
No, I'm with you on this.
I think that's- Yeah, no, from the
rest of your life, you'll be doing these
blurbs.
What you're supposed to say is, you have
snatched the pebbles from my hand, Grossman.
Oh, Topper.

(36:38):
It is time for you to leave.
Go on your own journey.
You can go, go do your thing.
You finally got a clue.
So it's like, it's beyond me why people
just don't, you know, anyone with any notoriety
doesn't adopt this philosophy.
It just makes nothing but sense.
And yeah, I- But these are good
books.
They're obviously good books, or they wouldn't have

(36:58):
our names on them.
I think, you know, it is, well, I've
read the one that your name is on.
That's the funny thing.
I actually read that book, and you're the
one endorsing it.
I haven't read the new one, but I
did endorse it.
I think he said, can I just put
something on the cover?
So yeah, go for it.
Well, that's a little, you know, you have
to know.
Oh, I have- The last tip, the
last tip.

(37:18):
This is the end tip.
This is the tip.
You do have to write the blurb somehow.
So just say something.
And most of them are stock, and they
can be very generalized.
This is one of the most important books
I think I've read in my life.
This- How about this?
If it wasn't for this book, I wouldn't
blah, blah, blah.
I wouldn't have married my wife.
You know, stuff like that.

(37:38):
A page turner from beginning to end.
I couldn't- Excellent.
You're already on your own.
How about this?
I couldn't put it down.
Perfect.
Send me your books, people.
I am now the blurb man.
I went from podfather to blurb man.
Exactly.

(38:00):
It's not a bad policy.
So now just sticking with the North Sea
Nexus, because things are popping up left and
right.
George Galloway.
Now he was a politician, wasn't he, at
one point?
In England?
Yeah.
Yeah, he was a politician.
And now- No, I thought he was
a writer for the Guardian or something.
I thought- He's a left-wing nut

(38:21):
job.
I don't know if he ever got into
parliament.
I thought it- Well, we're going to
find out, aren't we?
No, hold on a second.
We are going to find out.
Can I be of assistance?
Yes.
Oh, is this your new girl?
No.
Leader of the Workers' Party of Britain.
He was a member of the Labour Party

(38:42):
from 87 to 2010.
He served as member of parliament.
Hello!
Okay, okay.
Politician.
Now- All right.
Now, podcaster.
He's not even a podcaster.
He's a YouTuber.
He's even a little bit lower than podcaster.
I think so.
Here's what he said on his recent show.
Indeed, this has a long and inglorious history.
The British invented it, as in so much

(39:03):
else.
We helped found and nourished, nurtured, the Muslim
Brotherhood in Egypt in the early 1950s so
that we could use them against the Arab
nationalist leader Gamal Abdel Nasser, President Nasser.

(39:25):
We invented the Muslim Brotherhood.
It was invented in London.
And it was, its first outing, though not
its last, was to undermine the pan-Arabic
message of the Nasserists.
And, well, we've fallen out with the Muslim

(39:47):
Brotherhood from time to time, but occasionally they
can still be useful to each other, if
you get my drift.
Exactly.
Yeah, well, we found, the United States found
it, Al-Qaeda, during the Afghanistan thing, just
to harass the Russians.
It was purposefully to, because Russia was turning

(40:08):
Afghanistan into a modern Western country.
They had the women who wore dresses, they
were all pretty.
No, can't have that.
They made the women pretty.
They were pretty.
They made the women pretty.
The Russians, of all people, the Russians, have
you seen the Russian women?
They're gorgeous.
They made the Afghani women pretty.

(40:28):
So you end up with a, you know,
going in that direction.
No, we can't have that.
But you remember.
So we dreamed up this bin Laden character,
who's a CIA asset of some sort, probably
still alive, for all I know.
Claimed that he had, by the way, they
always claimed that he had the dialysis machine
with him.
There's no evidence of this.

(40:50):
How come when they shot him in that
compound, supposedly shot him and then burned him?
There was no dialysis machine.
Where's the dialysis machine?
Well, speaking of that time, which was Obama,
I mean, he was also the big friend
of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Don't you remember?
Obama?
Yes, yeah.
He was like, oh, didn't he go to

(41:10):
Egypt and apologize, basically, to the Muslim Brotherhood?
We're sorry, we suck, we're Americans.
Maybe.
Yeah.
I remember him going to Egypt, he went
on an apology tour of the world, and
he's bowed down to everybody, and he's like
a, basically kowtowing.
Now I'm rethinking my CIA stance on him
and thinking he was much more of a

(41:31):
British agent, which would make sense, because they
wanna wreck our country.
That actually makes more sense.
Yeah, they wanna wreck our country, and a
pretty good job, I'd say, during the Obama
years.
Now, another attack vector is, of course, this
ongoing BBC gambit, and Trump did an interview

(41:53):
with GBN, which is the most fawning interview
I've ever seen.
The sycophantic, actually.
Who's GBN, GBN?
Yeah, that's the right-wing cable news outfit
now in the UK.
Oh, it's nothing like- GB News, GB
News.
Okay.
Yeah, and they're like our Fox News, it's

(42:15):
GBN over there.
And so the woman interviews, and she's like,
I love what you've done to DC.
I wish you could be King of England.
You could fix our country.
But then- Oh, okay, I get it,
yeah.
Trump said something interesting about this.
So he's mounting a lawsuit, we think, we

(42:36):
don't know, but here's what he said about
it.
Well, will you push it?
Because they haven't offered, our understanding is they've
offered no money whatsoever.
They've apologized in a letter, but they haven't
offered you a penny in compensation.
There was this figure of a billion dollars
that you may be pursuing.
I think I have an obligation to do
it.
I'm not looking to get into lawsuits, but

(42:58):
I think I have an obligation to do
it.
This was so egregious.
If you don't do it, you don't stop
it from happening again with other people.
I think you probably have an obligation.
I'd like to find out why they did
it, you know, so bad.
Who thinks like this?
And I wonder if they've done it, we'll
find this out, the nice part about litigation
is we'll find out how many times have

(43:20):
they done it to other people.
Maybe they did it to me quite a
bit.
What he's talking about here is discovery.
That's what he's talking about.
The fun thing about litigation.
That's why it's never, and it'll never get
there.
No, but he can sue BBC America.
They're a U.S. arm.
No, he can sue BBC UK too, and
we can do that because their laws in

(43:41):
the UK are, the libel laws in the
UK are really onerous compared to ours.
Ours, the standard is very difficult compared to
the UK.
The UK, you can sue left and right.
I think they're trying to get to discovery.
I agree with that, but I think they'll
just settle and bust around with it.
I mean, I don't know how they're gonna

(44:02):
get out of this.
If they're smart, they'll settle, but they keep
saying, oh no, we're not gonna pay a
dime to that guy.
And this comes where the, I can't find
any clips of it, except they did an
internal BBC video interview with Davies after he
resigned, where he said, well- He wasn't

(44:22):
a bad actor though.
It's that woman who was running the whole
thing, and she came from NBC.
Yes, she was not in the internal video.
And what's happening right now, they're in the
middle of what they call the charter process.
And this happens periodically where they have to
go back and say, okay, British people, we

(44:44):
need this much money in your license fee,
and here's the, so they have this big
process and documents.
And this comes right, which is probably the
timing of it, besides the fact that the
Telegraph was just bought by a Trump buddy,
his money at least, through Qatar, which, oh
no, I'm sorry, Abu Dhabi, to hit them

(45:08):
right as they're going through this charter.
Now everyone's, oh, oh, is the BBC, is
it corrupt?
Is it, is it biased?
Oh, really?
Are you just making this up?
I have to give you an admission here,
which may be affecting my analysis and my
personality today.
So I recorded the BBC World Service, I

(45:31):
recorded about two hours of it, and then
I go and get clips.
But the clips are very, the BBC World
Service and the BBC presentations, generally on audio,
are extremely dull.
And they're hard to clip.
I do have some clips today.
So I'm going through it about one half
hour into it.

(45:52):
I don't know, once in a while, I
do fall asleep at the computer.
Okay.
Okay.
But these guys, they drone on and on
and on.
Oh, and Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
And I conked out.
And it just kept on recording.
No, it wasn't recording, they were just playing

(46:14):
back.
I was looking for clips.
I pre-recorded the clip, the series.
Oh, you conked out.
I had about an hour and a half
recorded, and I'm going through the recording.
It's easier to do it that way for
me.
And so I conked out and I woke
up.
It's still going, yack, yack, yack.
And then Trump, blah, blah, blah.
And then I look up, hour.

(46:36):
I was out for an hour.
And this was this morning?
No, it was last night.
The BBC had knocked me out.
Literally put me to sleep because it's so
boring.
And it drones.
I want people to appreciate.
And there's no modulation in the voices.
It's just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And I was out for a, I looked

(46:57):
up the clock.
I said, oh, it's only like 10, 15.
Wait a minute, that's not 10, 15, that's
11, 15.
And I said, oh my God, I've been
out for an hour.
I don't know what they told me.
But I have to tell you, I didn't
go back to check, but I don't know
what, but subconsciously, now I've got a bunch
of bad information in my head.

(47:18):
Oh, you've been corrupted.
Oh, I understand.
Yes, they've mind-controlled you.
MKUltra.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Well, then that makes sense.
Hour.
So, all right, so then- Hour of
hypnosis, basically.
I didn't realize, but the show is hypnotic.
So you're forgiven then for your attitude.
Okay, no problem.
Yeah, it'll probably take a couple of weeks

(47:38):
to get over it.
We have to deprogram John, everybody.
Well, how about I lead you into your,
I'm looking at your list here, just a
factual overview, because I'm thinking this could be
massive theater between Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene.

(48:00):
I really- I do have the Marjorie
Taylor Greene stuff, but I'm going to play
the UK Nexus, I think, first, because we're
still talking about that.
Okay, all right.
And then we'll get to Marjorie Taylor.
And I, by the way, I'm in agreement
that by the, and I got to Marjorie
Taylor Greene from the BBC stuff.
I must have fallen asleep shortly after that.
Yes.
The, you have no idea how upsetting that
is.
And I'm hearing it.

(48:21):
I'm feeling it in your voice.
I'm feeling it.
I feel you, bro.
UK Nexus report one.
It's long been said that one man's freedom
fighter is another's terrorist.
And perhaps the most striking example of someone
who illustrated that problem was Nelson Mandela, who
refused to renounce the use of non-state

(48:43):
sanctioned violence for political ends, but ended up
widely admired around the world.
Two current issues are sparking more debate on
this.
Here in the UK, there are many people
being arrested for holding pieces of paper saying,
I support Palestine action, a group that's campaigned
on Gaza and which spray painted some planes
on a UK airbase.

(49:05):
And then there are the ongoing military strikes
by the United States on Venezuelan and Colombian
boats accused of smuggling drugs, which the US
justifies as strikes on a terrorist organisation with
which it is at war.
Ben Saul is the UN special rapporteur on
counter-terrorism.
Ooh, rapporteur.
He's been thinking about these issues for many,

(49:25):
many years.
Yes.
How would he define terrorism?
I want to call myself the podcast rapporteur.
So wait, no, the funny thing, wait, the
funny thing is about the Venezuelan things.
When did they start?
They started like a month or two ago,
right?
Wait, you mean the drug boats?
But this guy's been thinking about it for
many, many years.
Why he's a rapporteur after all?

(49:46):
So as UN special rapporteur, we've had a
working definition since about 2006.
And we say it's certain kinds of criminal
violence intended to intimidate a population or compel
or coerce a government to do something.
And the action must cause death or serious

(50:06):
injury to persons.
Okay, so did he just say that what
this is about is we're just intimidating the
Venezuelans by blowing up their drug boats?
He's not saying that.
What he's doing is saying we are not
going after terrorists because by his definition, they're

(50:28):
not terrorists.
But what you just interpreted, I believe might
be the subtext.
So they might be, actually, he doesn't say
that, but I think- Can I do
something for you for a minute?
Just because you feel so bad about this
BBC brainwashing.
Yeah.

(50:48):
Okay, now I know you don't wear headphones,
so just get close to the speakers.
Get close to the speakers.
You ready?
Are you ready?
I'm gonna fix you.
You ready?
Yeah.
Okay.
You've been de-fragmented.
Okay, you're good now.
You're good to go.
I'm good.
What?
Hello?
It's fixed.
When are we starting the podcast?

(51:11):
Onward.
Yeah.
So on that basis, Nelson Mandela was a
terrorist or not?
Well, Nelson Mandela was part of a freedom
fighter movement.
And of course, this is one of the
longstanding debates going back many, many decades, whether
freedom fighters or indeed armed conflicts against an
occupying power should be regarded as terrorism.

(51:34):
Some of the international best practice standards suggest
that- Can you stop it for a
second?
Armed conflict?
Yeah.
I like the use of the occupying power.
Now, if you know the history of South
Africa, the Afrikaners went down.
It was abandoned.
There was nothing down there except some Hutus.
It was like, there wasn't anything to occupy

(51:55):
except vacant land.
South Africa was, there was nothing there.
It was occupied by the Dutch.
It was colonized by the Dutch.
Yeah, but they moved there, but it wasn't
like they took over from someone else.
It wasn't like the Belgian Congo.
Another fine North Sea Nexus outfit.

(52:16):
Yeah, the Belgian Congo.
They killed 100,000, what, a million people?
They killed so many people.
Yeah, at least.
They're just killing people left and right.
And it was different.
And so, you know, it's just because somebody's
there doesn't mean they're occupiers.
I mean, they like to make, that's the
point I'm trying to make is they try
to say the same thing.

(52:36):
We're occupying of Native American land.
That's what they would like to say.
Ah, yes, well.
That this idea is bull crap.
But as long as we pray over it,
it's okay, isn't it?
As long as we just thank them.
Yes, okay.
Freedom fighters or indeed armed conflict against an
occupying power should be regarded as terrorism.

(52:59):
Some of the international best practice standards suggest
that armed conflict should instead be regulated by
international humanitarian law.
The area of law that's built to regulate
war and terrorism instead should be peacetime violence
subject to domestic criminal law.
Wait a minute.
Everyone is bringing up this international law in

(53:20):
context of these boats.
What international law are they pointing to here?
I don't know.
They never say.
There is, I don't think there really, there's
no world court yet.
Is there?
No, there is the world criminal justice thing
and the world criminal court.
There's these two operations.
They talk about it in these clips that

(53:40):
we're not part of.
It's the Hague.
So what difference does it make?
It's in the seat of the enemy in
the Hague.
I gotta listen to that.
The U.S. drug war in Venezuela.
That's not a real war according to international
law, but President Trump, of course, is suggesting
that it is.
Yeah, so let's just deal with these two
other sort of current issues.
And you mentioned the Venezuelan one.

(54:00):
So that first of all, the Venezuelan one,
so that first of all, how much legal
opinion is there supporting the characterization of suspected,
suspected, suspected, suspected drug smugglers, maybe organized crime
being terrorists?
Man, that would have programmed my mind if
that clip came across.
I'd be like, what?
The mainstream overwhelming international legal opinion is that

(54:24):
this is not a war or an armed
conflict, that there is no right to use
military force to simply essentially murder narco traffickers
on the high seas.
Of course, the U.S. government.
Oh, that's interesting.
This is the first guy who is just
saying it correctly.
We're murdering narco dudes on the high seas.

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Yes.
Everyone else has been like, well, they're fishermen.
Well, he says that too, by the way.
You let him, let him.
I'll let him ramble, let him ramble.
No right to use military force to simply
essentially murder narco traffickers on the high seas.
Of course, the U.S. government has put
its legal view that it is covered by

(55:06):
international humanitarian law and that somehow drug deaths
in the United States are somehow equivalent to
an armed attack on the United States, allowing
it to exercise self-defense.
But of course, that's nonsense in legal terms
and no serious international lawyer worth their salt
believes that.
Well, no.
And by the way, I think this show

(55:26):
needs an international lawyer.
I would like to have it.
It says, Rob, Rob Cardy, do you have
an international law degree?
I want to make sure that we're covered.
No, because that's not what it's about.
It's about stopping your money through the Caribbean
nations where you've been benefiting from this for
centuries.
Yeah, yeah.

(55:46):
It's not, it's not about.
They explain their own people.
Yeah.
We must continue.
Where would that get tested in a legal
body?
Which court would hear that if it went
to court?
Well, unfortunately, the United States has not accepted
the jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice.
Of course not.
It also hasn't accepted the International Criminal Court's

(56:08):
jurisdiction either.
And that's very deliberate because it doesn't want
to be held accountable by international institutions.
That's not just a Trump position, by the
way, that's a longstanding position of U.S.
administrations of all kinds.
That's why it makes it so much more
important that individual governments diplomatically protest these kinds
of killings.

(56:28):
I mean, we now think that- This
is so amazing.
There's countries doing all kinds of killings, including
us, including all kinds of African nations.
But this one is all of a sudden
a big deal.
Yeah, I mean, we know the reason why.
We know the reason why, yes.

(56:50):
The Trump administration has murdered at least 80
people in dozens of strikes.
And this is- I never heard the
BBC or this guy complain about Obama droning
people and their kids.
Never heard him about that.
Just incredible lawlessness, which is also sending a
signal to other states that they can act
that way and also get away with it.

(57:10):
Very strong language for a UN special rapporteur
to use.
But what is your take on whether a
suspected drug trafficker or an organized crime cartel
or something like that can be correctly described
as terrorists?
So certainly terrorist groups have long been engaged

(57:30):
in some forms of organized crime to raise
money for their cause.
Think of the Taliban in Afghanistan.
On the other hand, it's a really new
phenomenon for drug cartels to be labeled legally
as terrorists.
So the U.S. has done it, but
not only the U.S. I mean, it's
also in the last year or two years,

(57:51):
Canada, Honduras, Argentina, Ecuador.
Of course, in some circumstances, organized crime drug
cartels in places like Mexico or Colombia can
absolutely use violence to intimidate populations or even
to coerce or compel governments if you're targeting
judges or prosecutors or law enforcement officials.

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Quite a few governments have an extra element
in their definition of terrorism, which I think
is quite a good one.
That's the case in the U.K., that
the violence also has to be done for
a political or ideological or religious cause.
And if you look at it that way,
then I don't think you can say organized
crime is terrorism.
You know, the Dutch diplomats are also open

(58:38):
arms about this.
Oh, America should stop this.
We should, they should stop doing this.
Never, you know, why?
It's like Rotterdam, man.
Hey, sales are down, people.
Well, your point about the, not bitching about
Obama doing this, the other thing about Obama,
he did it within sovereign borders of other

(58:59):
countries.
Yes, yeah, it was good.
We're doing it in the open sea.
Yeah.
All right, was that the last one?
No, no, you have a short fourth here.
Yeah.
The terrorism label, as we've seen in the
United States, it's often a pathway for abuses,
whether it's summary deportations of the alleged drug

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cartel members, or now in the latest development,
the military targeting of civilians on civilian boats,
carrying allegedly drugs, but some of them, who
knows, might be fishermen, according to the report.
Yeah, there it is.
It's fishermen.
They always have four outboard engines, of course.
Yeah, and they always go like bats out

(59:41):
of hell and they have a bunch of
barrels.
I got some fish, I gotta get home.
I mean, I gotta get to the other
side of the sea real quick with my
fish.
Yeah, there's protests erupting everywhere over this.
The U.S. military released photos of the
firepower operating in the Caribbean Sea.
The Gerald R.
Ford Aircraft Carrier Strike Group joins another eight

(01:00:02):
warships, F-35 aircraft, and a nuclear submarine
already in the region, escalating President Donald Trump's
pressure campaign against Venezuela.
In an online post, the administration calls it
Operation Southern Spear.
Trump says he's basically decided whether or not
to take military action against Venezuela and the
government of Nicolas Maduro.
We'll see what happens.

(01:00:23):
I mean, I can't tell you what it
is, but we've made a lot of progress
with Venezuela in terms of stopping drugs from
pouring in.
But we have a Mexican- By the
way, Trump has really gotta stop doing these
things on Air Force One.
This sucks.
I mean, it's, every- He's always in
the little foyer by the door.

(01:00:44):
Yeah, the audio sucks.
This is not good for, it's hurting the
show.
No problem, we have a Colombian Trump.
Oh, well, hold on.
President Trump alleges- Can you run that
through Adobe and see if it cleans up?
I can, actually, but I didn't have time.
This came in late, but yes, I-
That's the other thing, you know, we don't
have time.
Yeah, you're right, Trump should stop doing that,

(01:01:05):
because we don't have time to have to
fix his clips.
No, we don't have time to fix your
clips, Mr. President.
President Trump alleges illegal drugs are coming from
both Colombia and Venezuela to the U.S.
U.S. military has carried out roughly 20
airstrikes on alleged drug vessels in international waters
and has yet to offer proof of narcotics

(01:01:26):
trafficking.
Outside the White House, protesters voiced their opposition
to the military aggression and the killings of
at least 80 people in boats off the
coast of Venezuela.
In Caracas, the Venezuelan president was engulfed by
a sea of supporters and addressed the crowd
partly in English.
The love and peace, the peace and love.
I love this.
Somebody make this into a techno song.

(01:01:49):
Crowd partly in English.
American fighter jets are once again operating in
Puerto Rico at the former military base, fueling
more speculation of the next U.S. moves.
I just can't see it any other way
as that we're blowing every single drug carrier

(01:02:11):
out of the water.
Colombia, no.
Venezuela, we're not gonna go after Venezuela.
If all of a sudden Gen Z rises
up in Venezuela, then we're going after Venezuela.
We're not gonna- But we don't have
to do anything.
The Gen Zs will make it happen.
They're actually effective.
If we want them to.
Yeah, no, no, we have to initiate it,

(01:02:33):
obviously, at least by our thesis.
We have to turn on the discourse.
And I'm in total agreement.
It's us.
Yeah.
Us as in U.S. Us, our people,
our agencies, whoever is behind it, you have
to guess it's one of the main-
This is a new era.
It's a new CIA.
They've kicked out the DEI.

(01:02:54):
Yeah, they've ousted a lot of the...
Brendan's on the run.
Yeah, got him out.
They've sorted out most of the DEI people
and I'm not sure they're completely clean.
But they still have a lot of young,
energetic, patriotic agents.
And they're like, no, no, no, no, no.
We just gotta get on the discord, buddy.

(01:03:15):
Come on, hold on a second.
Let me show you how it's done.
You want Charlie Kirk dead?
Let me get on the discord with this
kid.
The discord is where it's at.
There must be some great backdoors into that
thing.
We don't need a backdoor.
You just- No, I've never been on
it, so I don't know.
Now, should I?
Are you recommending that I get an account

(01:03:36):
so at least I know what I'm talking
about when it comes to discord?
Do you have an account?
I have an account on the Light Phone.
See, these discords, they're kind of like separate
little entities.
They're islands.
And imagine, it's like an old school BB
&T.
Yes, you got a forum, you got your
file upload.

(01:03:57):
See, this is why I'm probably not attracted
to it.
I've already gone through that phase.
No, it's not attractive, but it's where you
can upload your files and you can have
- You know, it's kind of a-
Is it like FTP?
Can I upload my huge files and give
them to- So I can send somebody
a 100 megabyte file?
It's drag and drop, baby.
Yeah.

(01:04:18):
So this took the place of Lockbox or
whatever the hell that thing was called?
Well, no.
I mean, this is what- Look, who's
on X?
Millennials- Who's on first?
Yeah, who?
Millennials and boomers are on X.
That's who's there.
The kids are not on X.

(01:04:38):
They're all on discord.
It started with the gamers.
I'm just giving my abbreviated version.
The gamers would be in these discord-
I should know all this to a extreme.
You don't need to know it.
You just sit there and sleep during the
BBC and I'll fill you in.
It's okay.
I'm going to have to go do something.
We could set up a no agenda discord.

(01:05:01):
I mean, I'm sure there already is one,
I'm sure.
And if anyone sets it up, we give
it about one year and three months before
it explodes.
Before they turn on us.
Like everything else.
All of a sudden, no agenda sucks.
Man, you need to come in.

(01:05:22):
If you're not posting on our discord enough,
you're no good.
Yeah, and then they start the Jew hate.
Oh no, no.
I need to check in with no authority,
see how they're doing over there.
Oh, it's out of control.
You've looked recently?
I haven't looked for months, but last time
I looked, it was out of control.
You might as well go to blue sky.

(01:05:43):
Same thing.
No, I haven't.
No, I don't think anyone looks at blue.
Blue sky seems to have fallen out of
favor, again, for the discord.
But this is it.
You set up a discord.
There's all kinds of things.
Who runs discord?
Is it a publicly traded company?
I don't think.
Is there some publicly traded angle here?
I don't think they're public.

(01:06:04):
Let me see.
Let me see.
Aboot, let me look at Aboot.
So anybody, I mean, they're clearly, they have,
their financing is very unclear.
Yes, because this is a spooked operation.
I believe it to be mainly a spook
operation.

(01:06:25):
Here we go, Aboot.
Let me see.
Discord was- We can deconstruct this right
on the floor.
By the way, people were doing this on
the fly.
We're going to deconstruct how involved the CIA
is on dimension one of the agencies.
Aboot page.
Discord was built to solve one problem.
How do we mind control kids to do

(01:06:45):
our bidding?
How to talk- It doesn't say that.
How to talk with friends while gaming together,
but much like the protagonists of our favorite
game stories, all journeys have their humble beginnings.
That's spook language if I ever saw it.
Totally.
I agree.
Jason Citron established, this is a timeline.

(01:07:07):
2012 is when this started.
2012.
2012, yes.
That's important.
April- That's when Obama got reelected.
Yes, 2013.
Stanislav Vizhevonitsky joins Jason as they continue working
together on their upcoming mobile game.
So a lot of this is game, game,

(01:07:27):
game, game.
Spring 2016.
Let me see if we go beyond game.
Summer 2016.
Discord brings the power to voice call friends
directly in DMs and group DMs, and unleashes
one of its most popular features of all
time, the ability to upload and use custom
emojis in servers.
Oh yeah.
Once you get those- Oh, there's nothing

(01:07:47):
more important than a custom emoji.
That would account for the skull and crossbones
with a little straw hat.
Let me see.
So this is all gaming, gaming, gaming.
Oh, spring 2025.
Jason announces his transition from CEO to board
member and advisor.

(01:08:08):
Humam Saknini becomes Discord's new CEO.
I think we already deconstructed this, that this
Humam Saknini guy, he's a Brit, pretty sure.
Let me see.
His name's Human?
Humam, Humam.
This is the guy from McKinsey, King Digital,

(01:08:30):
all British, all British.
He was- Well, how is it our
op?
Well, we could still be working with him.
Maybe it isn't, maybe, who knows?
But the British aren't that creative to do
these kinds of things that we're talking about.

(01:08:50):
But this guy came from Activision, Activision Blizzard.
Anyway.
Is that the right sounding back?
Anyway, anybody can set up a Discord.
That's basically the whole idea.
You set up a Discord, it's free.
If you want certain functionality, you have to
pay for it, I believe.
There's a missing piece of this puzzle, it
seems to me.

(01:09:10):
Right.
Well, anyway, that's where the kids are.
The kids are on the Discord.
If you're hip with it, you're not on
X.
You're on Discord.
You're on a, you have your own Discord
server.
And I think we should have one.
For as long as it lasts.
We have plenty of people that can set
one up.
Yeah, we'll join.
We'll get an account.

(01:09:32):
Maybe you should have Kobol do it.
Oh, Patrick Kobol?
Because he could, he could manage it.
He's of the sort that he could, he
would be brutal.
Yeah, yeah, no, he would slice and dice.
He wouldn't put up with it.
Yeah, he wouldn't put up with any.
I don't know if he has time in
his life for it, but I could ask
him.

(01:09:53):
He has time.
He's a busy guy.
He puts it, he makes you think he
doesn't, but guys like that always do.
All right, now we're going to move to
what I really, I'm just thinking like, we've
seen this with Tucker.
We've seen it with Elon.
Like, oh, big fight.
And then they go off and they do

(01:10:13):
their thing.
And there's reconciliation.
And Tucker is somehow involved in this, you
know, rooting out of entities unwanted in the
Republican Party and probably unwanted in the-
This one here, I can't disagree with you
on any of this because I felt the
same way when it first started.
Now at my clips, I got an NPR

(01:10:33):
and two BBCs.
Why don't I play the, because what I
have is straight up reads of what Trump
posted and what Marjorie Taylor Greene replied.
So it's just a set of- By
the, that should go first.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So it's straight read of, instead of me
reading it, we got some other nut job
reading it.
Right.
I want to read you again what President
Trump said on Truth Social.

(01:10:55):
He said, I am withdrawing my support and
endorsement of Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene of the
great state of Georgia.
Over the past few weeks, despite my creating
record achievements for our country, including a total
and complete victory on the shutdown, closed borders,
low taxes, no men in women's sports or

(01:11:15):
transgender for everyone, ending DEI, stopping Biden's record
-setting inflation, the biggest regulation cuts in history,
stopping eight wards, rebuilding our military, being respected
by every country in the world, as opposed
to being the laughing stock that we were
just 12 months ago, having trillions of dollars

(01:11:37):
record-setting invested in the USA, and having
created the hottest country anywhere in the world
from being a dead country just 12 months
ago, and so much more.
He says, all I see wacky Marjorie do
is complain, complain, complain.
He went on to say, it seemed to
all begin when I sent her a poll

(01:11:58):
stating that she should not run for senator
or governor.
She was at 12% and didn't have
a chance, unless of course she had my
endorsement, which she wasn't about to get.
He said, she has told many people that
she's upset that I don't return her phone
calls anymore, but with 219 congressmen and women,
53 US senators, 24 cabinet members, and almost

(01:12:21):
200 countries, and an otherwise normal life to
lead, I can't take ranting lunatics calls every
day, he says.
I understand that wonderful conservative people are thinking
about primary Marjorie in her district of Georgia,
that they too are fed up with her
and her antics, and if the right person

(01:12:42):
runs, they will have my complete and unyielding
support.
She has gone far left, even doing The
View with their low IQ Republican hating anchors.
Trump says, thank you for your attention to
this matter, make America great again.
So when I hear this, I'm like, nah,
really?

(01:13:03):
And here's her reply.
She posted this, she said, President Trump just
attacked me and lied about me.
I haven't called him at all, but I
did send these text messages today.
We will show you those in a moment.
She said, apparently this is what sent him
over the edge, the Epstein files, and of
course he's coming.
Now, I just gotta stop here for a

(01:13:23):
second.
Three weeks ago, Marjorie Taylor Greene was all
about Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, AIPAC, Israel,
AIPAC, Israel.
Boom, boom, boom, it had dropped.
And now it's Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.
I feel a setup in this.
This is the setup.

(01:13:44):
Epstein files, and of course he's coming after
me hard to make an example, to scare
all the other Republicans before next week's vote
to release the Epstein files.
She says, it's astonishing really how hard he's
fighting to stop the Epstein files from coming
out and that he actually goes to this

(01:14:04):
level, she says.
She went on to say, but really most
Americans wish he would fight this hard to
help the forgotten men and women of America
who are fed up with foreign wars and
foreign causes, are going broke trying to feed
their families, and are losing hope of ever
achieving the American dream.
That's what I voted for.

(01:14:25):
I have supported President Trump with too much
of my precious time, too much of my
own money, and fought harder for him, even
when almost all other Republicans turned their back
and denounced him.
And she also said, but I don't worship
or serve President Trump.
I worship God, Jesus is my savior.

(01:14:45):
And I serve my district, GA14, and the
American people.
I remain the same today as I've always
been.
And I will continue to pray that this
administration will be successful because the American people
desperately deserve what they voted for.
She said, for me, I remain America first
and America only.

(01:15:06):
And then she's bringing in the MAGA versus
America first.
Yes, that's a classic split.
And can you spell posturing?
P-O-S.
That's what the two of them are doing.
Well, this is W-W.
Bull crap.
Yeah, WWF is what I'm feeling here.

(01:15:27):
This is a classic.
Oh, yes, exactly.
This is what Trump does.
I mean, he understands this kind of show
business.
His pencil neck geek.
Yeah.
All right, so what did you get?
So did she go on the BBC?
Is that what these clips are from?
No, these are just analysis clips, pretty much
not the classic analysis.

(01:15:48):
What is the BBC doing analysis on Marjorie
Taylor Greene?
Well, isn't that interesting?
Well, let's start with the NPR clip, because
that's a short summary.
Okay, here we go.
President Trump is cutting ties with Congresswoman Marjorie
Taylor Greene.
The president posting on social media, announcing he's
withdrawn support from the Georgia Republican.

(01:16:09):
NPR's Ava Pukac reports that Greene suspects the
rift came from her support for the release
of the Epstein files.
In his post, Trump called for conservatives to
primary Greene, saying, quote, if the right person
runs, they will have my complete and unyielding
support.
Greene said in a post of her own
that she had sent the president a text

(01:16:30):
regarding the Epstein files, which she said, quote,
sent him over the edge.
She said Trump is trying to make an
example of her to scare other Republicans ahead
of the House's vote to force the release
of the Epstein files.
Greene has been a longtime Trump ally and
prominent MAGA figure, but she's been at odds
with the president, notably in calling for the

(01:16:51):
Justice Department to release the files about the
late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
Okay.
Now, a couple of things there.
One is that this is drawing attention to
the Epstein file.
To the Epstein file vote.
To the vote.
It's drawing attention.
To the vote.
Yes.
And Trump is against it, so that means
that the people, you know, will have to

(01:17:11):
show their independence.
Well, hold on, hold on.
He hasn't actually said he's against it.
No, he doesn't have to.
This rift, this points it out.
I think the rift between him and MTG,
which is, you and I agree, is scripted
bull crap.
To get attention, like, well, he doesn't want
this to happen, and so he's gonna bring

(01:17:33):
out the independent Republicans to make sure they
vote for it.
That would be Massey, that would be her,
probably a couple others.
And then they got the new woman in
from the Democrat side.
The Democrats, of course, because Trump doesn't want
this, are gonna, oh, yes.
They're all gonna vote for it.
And at the end of the day, at
least by both, and we both agree on
this, the Epstein files get released, and it

(01:17:54):
embarrasses a bunch of Democrats and a bunch
of big shots, and Trump says, hey, I
never wanted this released, and now you know
why.
You can blame these bastards for doing it.
Marjorie Taylor Greene is, like, in the middle,
because it doesn't matter what side she takes.
She said, well, I didn't know.
I wasn't ready.
And, oh, poor thing.
And- That's what makes sense to me.

(01:18:19):
And by the, I mean, just as a
very, very short one, and I have more
of this later, because it's from Valuetainment and
it's 14 seconds, I think there's always time
for a 14-minute Valuetainment clip.
14 seconds, yeah.
Yeah.
This is Michael Wolff on Valuetainment.
He got his tit in a ringer.

(01:18:41):
Well, but here's what he says.
Epstein believed that it was Trump who first
informed the police about what was going on
at Epstein's house.
And from that point on, they were nothing
but bitter enemies.
This is, like, this is not unknown.
I mean, Mike Johnson said it a long

(01:19:01):
time ago.
He said, I think Trump was an informant
for the FBI against Epstein.
But, you know, that doesn't matter because my
ex-timeline is filled with hate about, you
know, you and me, you know, we're protecting
pedophiles now and we helped get Trump elected.
You know, you don't even know, you're so

(01:19:22):
wrong.
Yeah, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh, bleh,
bleh.
There's that guy again.
I don't know why we can't get rid
of him.
You know, I, I'm.
Okay, so let's go to, your point that
you made, and I, this is the point.
Why does the BBC care?
Yeah, let's find out.
So here we go with the BBC talking

(01:19:42):
about American amounts to gossip, talking about MTG
versus Trump.
President Trump has hit out at one of
his hitherto most reliable allies, Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie
Taylor Greene.
She has been speaking out, criticising the US
close relationship with Israel, for example, calling for

(01:20:03):
the release of the Justice Department files on
convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein as well.
And the president has now described her as
a disgrace and wacky.
The BBC's Nomia Iqbal joins us live from
Washington.
So look, this is a row between two,
you know, big media figures, one the president
obviously, but also Marjorie Taylor Greene, very prominent

(01:20:25):
on the TV screens.
Is it just that, a sort of spat
between two people or does it represent something
bigger?
I think it's quite easy.
Certainly I had a moment there where you
feel a bit cynical and think, well, is
it just, yeah, two very close people who
have fallen out.
But I think it's much more than that.
Marjorie Taylor Greene is this real firebrand, a
loyal foot soldier to Donald Trump.

(01:20:46):
She's, you know, known for fuelling unsubstantiated conspiracy
theories, but her devotion to Mr. Trump has
been unquestionable.
She stood by his 2020 claims of election
fraud.
She supported him in the wake of the
Epstein controversy, actually.
She said she believed that President Trump had
no involvement in the sex scandal.
But in the recent months, she's really started
breaking ranks with him.

(01:21:08):
As you mentioned there, she has distanced herself
from the US and Trump's very close relationship
with Israel.
She is the only Republican to refer to
what's happening in Gaza as a genocide.
She has criticized his tariff policy.
How about this?
How about this is exactly the intended result

(01:21:28):
because, and this is just a dream scenario.
In my scenario, we force the vote and
everything gets released and the biggest pedophiles are
all British.
Many of them from the BBC itself, which
is not completely unthinkable.
How many pedophiles have had to leave the

(01:21:49):
BBC in the past 10 years?
Quite a lot.
Bring in some more royalty.
I'm sure we can bring in someone.
Look who's gone down.
That's an extreme interpretation of what might happen.
Andrew Mandelson.
Yeah, and who has had to leave the
lodge.
I mean, at this point, who gives a

(01:22:11):
rat's ass about Clinton?
Like, duh, Clinton and young girls.
Oh, okay, I'm shocked.
Bill Gates and young girls.
Shocked, yeah, shocked, okay.
But I think that there possibly could be,
this is where people get on my X
-Time.
Oh, 5-D chess again, eh?

(01:22:32):
Maybe.
No, what was that?
5-D chess.
Oh, 5-D?
Yes, now it's 5-D.
You know, I get blamed for things you
say.
It's incredible.
That's just because it's the way I do
it.
I do it in such a way that
you will get blamed.

(01:22:52):
I mean, it's a technique.
Believe me, if you had any idea what
the technique was, you'd employ it yourself.
Teach me, master.
Teach me.
No, that one I keep to myself.
Teach me how to do it.
All right, let's play clip two.
She's just increasingly going against him and doing
more media with a lot of outlets that

(01:23:14):
maybe in the past she wouldn't have.
And I think the Epstein scandal is something
that has really come between them both.
And just looking at her social media, her
view is very much that the Epstein files
should be released, all of them.
And she's very upset that he's not doing
that.
And I think why it's significant is because

(01:23:35):
we're talking about the MAGA base, the Make
America Great Again.
This is a very loyal base of Donald
Trump.
And splitting away from that, I think is
significant, especially when it comes to Marjorie Taylor
Greene.
And I think what we're seeing is a
split between those establishment MAGA and the America
First Right.
These are the people like Ms. Greene who

(01:23:56):
believe they are adhering to the principles that
Donald Trump campaigned on.
Don't want to be too journalistically cynical, but
I mean, I guess this is a fair
question.
Is she driven by these issues or is
she driven by presidential ambitions and creating a
bit of clear water between them with a
view to what might be happening in three
years time?
Well, this is certainly what the cynics amongst

(01:24:17):
Donald Trump circles are saying that this is
all about because he didn't let her run
for the governor race in Georgia, for the
Senate ambitions as well.
I actually know someone pretty close to Marjorie
Taylor Greene and some of her friends who
have said that that's not true and that
she basically doesn't agree with a lot of

(01:24:37):
what he stands for and that they're constantly
fighting.
And she had been fearing for her safety
in terms of how other people in that
world may view her, her stance and actually
on her social media, she's now saying that
she is facing a lot of threats.
Yeah, everyone's facing threats.
Megyn Kelly, everyone's facing threats.

(01:24:59):
But these 20,000 plus emails didn't even
come from the FBI or the State Department.
They came from Epstein's estate.
And you might not have heard this, but
during the 2019 house hearing of Michael Cohen,
Trump's fixer, Epstein was texting with the Democrat

(01:25:21):
from Stacey Plaskett, the Democrat from the U
.S. Virgin Islands, non-voting member, actually, but
he's texting with her.
Oh, no, you gotta talk about Rona, referring
to his personal secretary, Rona.
I forget what her last name was.
Everybody has Rona's, Rona Graf.

(01:25:42):
Everybody has her number.
You know, so it's so obvious that Trump
has nothing, nothing anywhere that is bad for
him, but only for Democrats, Brits, elites.
I mean, it's just, this seems like you're
so right.
Like, yeah, I told you, you didn't wanna

(01:26:02):
do it.
It's just a little too early.
It should be closer to the midterms.
Yeah, no, they have to push it off
as long as they can.
So then this morning, Massey comes on ABC.
By the way, can I just stop for
a second?
I am sick of this guy.
I mean, he's entertaining, he's affable, he's got,
everything's a joke to him.

(01:26:24):
He's like a classic old-fashioned right winger
from the 70s, and he thinks that he
knows better than everyone else, and he doesn't
like to play ball.
He's not that old.
He can't be from the 70s.
No, no, he's got, no, I said he's
the style of a 70s right winger.
If you used to listen to 70s talk

(01:26:45):
shows, 70s and 80s talk shows, with the
right wingers, they all had a certain kind
of a glib style, a I know more
than you do, it was a very obnoxious
presentation, and I can't explain it any better
than that.
In the 70s, I was watching Speed Racer
and Romper Room.
Yeah, well, yeah, I'm sure you were.

(01:27:07):
You didn't have to, and you were also
not here, you weren't listening to American talk
radio, for sure.
Let me ask you a question.
If your wife died suddenly, how long do
you feel it appropriate before you remarry?
Depends.
I'm just asking on a personal level, what
do you think?

(01:27:28):
I think you could do it within a
year.
Yeah, that's exactly what he did.
It depends on your personal, it depends on
your type, what kind of person you are.
If you're like a couple, or somebody just,
you know, just gloms on, you know, women,
and gets married, or just couples up real
fast, it could be pretty quick.

(01:27:50):
I just, I thought it was quick.
If you're already having an affair with somebody,
and then you've liked that.
Well, he knew her a long time before.
I don't know.
See, that's always suspicious to me.
Yeah, I know, I mean, I have no
standing in this area, personally, so, but here
he is.
Let's listen to what he has to say.
He also has changed his look.

(01:28:11):
He looks a lot younger with the beard.
Oh, he's got the new lady.
The beard.
Yeah.
Well, he's got a beard now, what?
Yeah, he's got a beard, mustache.
Oh, I gotta look this up, okay.
It looks much better, I have to say.
He looks younger in this.
As a TV producer, I'm just saying, I
think he's reinvented his character.
We're joined now by Republican Congressman Thomas Massey
of Kentucky, who led the effort to release

(01:28:34):
the Epstein files.
Congressman Massey, thank you for being here.
President Trump fought long and hard to prevent
your discharge petition from going through.
You won that battle.
Now, what happens?
How many Republicans in the House follow your
lead and defy the president on this?
A lot of them.
I think we could have a deluge of

(01:28:55):
Republicans.
There could be 100 or more.
I'm hoping to get a veto-proof majority
on this legislation when it comes up for
a vote.
And the president's been saying this is a
hoax.
He's been saying that for months.
Well, he's just now decided to investigate a
hoax if it's a hoax.
And I have another concern about these investigations
that he's announced.

(01:29:16):
If they have ongoing investigations in certain areas,
those documents can't be released.
So this might be a big smoke screen,
these investigations, to open a bunch of them
as a last-ditch effort to prevent the
release of the Epstein files.
I mean, it is extraordinary to hear him
demand an investigation and only mention Democrats, only
mention his political opponents, but you're saying he

(01:29:39):
may not really even want any investigation, he
wants to prevent the release.
Why does he wanna prevent this?
What is he afraid of?
What is he afraid of?
What could be?
You know, I've never said that these files
will implicate Donald Trump.
And I really don't think that they will.
I think he's trying to protect a bunch
of rich and powerful friends, billionaires, donors, to

(01:30:01):
his campaign, friends in his social circles.
And that's my operating theory on why he's
trying so hard to keep these files closed.
That doesn't seem at all plausible.
I don't think he cares.
First of all, he doesn't need money to
get reelected.
So why are you protecting your donors?
Perfect, yeah.

(01:30:21):
Is there some kind of loyalty?
He'll throw anybody under the bus for anything.
He does it all the time.
And he will do it.
Yes.
Yeah.
All the time.
Yeah, this has to do with the 2016.
2026.
2020, 2016, geez.
2026 election.
So if our thesis, because it's just a

(01:30:44):
thesis, it's not that we go to bed
at night hoping for this, although it would
be kind of cool if there was a
whole bunch of pedophiles at the BBC.
No, that would be, that part is new
to the thesis.
That would be ideal.
That would be ideal.
I think it would be pretty funny.
It's possible.
We kind of papered over that Jim will
fix it business.
Don't talk about it.

(01:31:04):
No, forget about the kids and the TV
show with the kids and the corpses.
No, let's just not talk about that.
Maybe Massey is a part of it.
Maybe Massey is, because he seems like-
No.
You think he's a willing idiot in this
particular case?
He has to be.
This guy, if you just listen to him

(01:31:25):
enough, you couldn't trust him to be part,
you couldn't trust to read him in.
You just get the sense that, yeah, you
could read him in and he would blow
it up.
You just don't, he's just one of those
guys, I believe, I could be wrong.
He may be a player.
I just do not think he, I think
he's an independent guy that doesn't, you read
him in on something, he'd be aghast, think

(01:31:46):
it's disgusting, the scheme would be, why would
you try to scheme against the American public?
The files would have to be, would have
to have something so awesome that you could
drag it out for, well, essentially 10 more
months in media.
Because let's say this comes out, let's say

(01:32:09):
maybe January, I think it probably won't happen
until then.
There'll be some other, Trump will probably do
some more like, oh, and then just, oh,
whatever.
Okay, let's say the vote goes, they have
to release the files.
Yeah, she can slow walk it.
She can slow walk it probably to February,
March.
Okay.

(01:32:29):
At some point.
But still, it has to be so egregious
that you can drag everyone down into it
for six months.
That's a long time.
I know, this is a real problem.
I see it the same way.
All right, let's check out, click.
Because of the quick, the cycle of, people
just forget.
You know, this is what Schumer's banking on,

(01:32:51):
you know, that the thing's gonna blow over
and he's gonna be, you know.
People already forgot about the shutdown.
Yes, it's true.
They've already forgotten Schumer's good to go.
He's back on track.
No, we're already done.
What do you think is actually in these
files?
I mean, we've seen so much Epstein material
from the criminal cases, the stuff that just
came out this week, you know, from the
estate.

(01:33:11):
What do you think is left?
Yeah.
You know, they talk and talk and talk
about these files.
Have you noticed that not one person, including
us, have mentioned the real deal on these,
the videotapes.
That's what we want.
Well, maybe files, they imply.

(01:33:31):
No, they can imply all they want.
They're not talking about the tapes.
We want tapes.
The tapes.
The CDs, the CD-ROMs. I think it's
all CD-ROMs. Well, whatever they are, it
doesn't matter.
But there's recordings, the recordings of people in
the bedrooms.
I don't even think there's that much of
that.
I, they said there was, there was closets

(01:33:53):
full.
Let's find out.
You know, we're all going to be on
edge.
We're just waiting for this.
Epstein material from the criminal cases, the stuff
that just came out this week, you know,
from the estate.
What do you think is left?
Yeah, I don't have to guess at what's
in the files.
I've talked to the survivors through their lawyer,
and we know there are at least 20

(01:34:15):
people in those files.
There are politicians, billionaires, movie producers who are
implicated criminally, who haven't been investigated.
And it's up to the FBI, not the
survivors and the DOJ to release those names,
or at least to investigate them.
And when I see Donald Trump announce a
bunch of investigations, I don't see him going

(01:34:36):
after these rich elites that are implicated in
these files, according to the survivors.
So the BBC, again, BBC wrote an article
about who else was mentioned in, it says
Epstein files, but I think that's just these
emails.
So Michael Wolff, we know that.
The Larry Summers is interesting.

(01:34:58):
Yeah.
I think that's, now he was, what was
his job previously?
He was in the treasury.
He was, yeah.
Right, right.
Katherine Rumler.
Yeah.
That's a picture of her in the list
of the- She looks worried.
She's at Goldman Sachs, but this happened pre

(01:35:21):
-Goldman Sachs.
Peter Thiel, probably nothing there.
No.
I can't imagine what that could be.
He's gay.
So yeah, he doesn't need young girls.
Noam Chomsky.
That's funny.
Yeah, probably nothing.
But that was probably just a, you know,
he did this thing.
You have to remember Epstein did this thing
because different people got involved in it where

(01:35:43):
he would socialize with scientists so he could
find out things that he needed to know
for some leverage of some sort or other.
So he would probably hang out with Chomsky,
but I just cannot see that guy going
to the island or even taking, getting on
a plane.
Going to the island.
It's not gonna happen.
All right, let's continue with this riveting ABC

(01:36:05):
interview.
The president has gone after you in some
deeply personal ways.
I mean, attacking you over and over again,
even attacking you regarding your wedding, your recent
wedding, which by the way, congratulations.
What do you make of all that?
And he's obviously supporting your primary opponents.
I mean, what kind of retribution are you

(01:36:27):
facing?
You know, my wife told me, she said,
I told you so, we should have invited
Donald Trump.
He's mad that he didn't get an invitation.
So we're taking it with a grain of
salt.
He's being a bully or trying to be
a bully.
And they're trying to beat me here in
Kentucky.
But here's what's interesting.

(01:36:47):
The people financing this campaign consist completely of
three billionaires and they're all in the Epstein
class.
In fact, one of them is named in
Epstein's phone book, not the secret files that
the FBI is keeping, but in Epstein's phone
book.
So it's who?
Everybody's in Epstein's phone book.
I don't know who.
Yeah, that's true.
But who?
I don't know.

(01:37:08):
Does he tell us who it is?
No.
Why?
It's a small world.
Dogs don't bark at parked cars.
And we are winning.
I'm not tired of winning yet, but we
are winning.
And not only the speaker, but the attorney
general, the FBI director, and the president himself
and the vice president, they're taking a big
loss this week because after months of fighting,

(01:37:29):
I am winning this week with Ro Khanna.
We're forcing this vote and it's gonna happen.
I would remind my Republican colleagues who are
deciding how to vote, Donald Trump can protect
you in red districts right now by giving
you an endorsement, but in 2030, he's not
gonna be the president and you will have
voted to protect pedophiles if you don't vote
to release these files and the president can't

(01:37:51):
protect you then.
This vote, the record of this vote will
last longer than Donald Trump's presidency.
Yeah, there's something there.
That's a good threat.
I like that threat.
Yeah, it's a good threat.
Yeah, and that would kind of make it
sound as though he's in on it, but
I still can't, I just think he's just
a useful idiot.
Here's the last clip.

(01:38:12):
Now, I've talked to Senate leadership who'd tell
me that this is almost certainly not-
This is Jonathan Corral, it is the one
and only.
Evening gonna be brought up for a vote
in the Senate.
What's your sense on that?
I mean- Wait a minute, now what
vote in the Senate do we need all
of a sudden?
Why do, I thought this was a House
vote.
Do we need the Senate now too?

(01:38:35):
Not that I know of.
Let me listen, let me listen again.
Leadership who'd tell me that this is almost
certainly not even gonna be brought up for
a vote in the Senate.
What's your sense on that?
I mean, I guess if there's an overwhelming
vote of you, like you said, 100 Republicans
join all the Democrats, the pressure will be
immense, but do you have any sense the

(01:38:55):
Senate's even gonna vote on this?
Well, they don't have the procedural maneuver that
Ro Khanna and I used in the House.
They don't have that in the Senate.
It's called a discharge petition.
But the senators do have other ways to
force votes as amendments, for instance, on larger
bills in order to let bills move quicker
through the chamber.
So they could force the vote in spite

(01:39:16):
of the leadership's efforts.
I just hope John Thune will do the
right thing.
Look, our own speaker tried to push this
bill by unanimous consent last week within 15
minutes of me getting the 218th vote because
he was trying to save people from a
vote.
If he's ready to pass it by unanimous
consent, then the Senate leader should be as
well.

(01:39:36):
Just bring it up.
But the pressure's gonna be there if we
get a big vote in the House.
Oh, so it sounds like you do need
the Senate to vote on this.
That's what it sounds like.
But I like the trickery of Johnson to
do a non-vote, just pass it by
unanimous consent so nobody can have it marked
against them as only a pro-pedophile.

(01:39:58):
Let the Senate hang.
You let the senators go for it.
And then you have to do the same
thing because you can't be on the record
voting against this because it looks like you're
protecting pedophiles.
And so this is very tricky and it's
definitely gonna have to happen.
But if you're trying to keep it from
happening, by our thesis, if you're trying to

(01:40:20):
keep it from happening until the midterms, as
close to them as you can to submarine
the Democrats, it's gonna be rough.
Here's Senator Chris Murphy is brought into the
conversation by Jonathan Karl.
On Epstein, the president is now demanding or
has demanded that the attorney general, the Justice

(01:40:42):
Department, investigate his political opponents.
And Pam Bondi responded by basically saying yes,
sir, and moving in that direction.
What do you make of that?
Well, it's both heartbreaking and totally unsurprising.
The Department of Justice has just become a
protection racket for Donald Trump and a witch

(01:41:03):
hunt operation against his political opponents.
This is why our democracy- Which political
opponents?
Bill Clinton?
Is he a political opponent?
I have not heard a name who is
a political opponent.
Opponent of what?
The 2028 election?
This Murphy guy's the worst.
Is in such peril right now is that
for the first time in our history, the

(01:41:25):
Department of Justice operates in order to try
to punish and lock up anybody that criticizes
Donald Trump.
I'm really proud of the work that Representative
Massey has done in the House of Representatives
along with Ro Khanna.
And yes, John Thune should bring that vote
to the Senate floor as soon as it
passes the House of Representatives.

(01:41:46):
It's true that Donald Trump is trying to
cover up for I think a host of
really powerful and rich people, but he's frankly
not that selfless.
He wouldn't be going through all of this
effort to try to stop the release of
these files if he wasn't seriously implicated in
those files.
This is most likely the biggest corruption scandal
in the history of the country.

(01:42:07):
We know that because Donald Trump is going
to these extraordinary lengths to stop these files
from coming out.
The Senate should take this vote.
I think it'll be likely another big bipartisan
vote.
And I'm grateful to our House colleagues for
sending it our way.
I mean, what, the only thing that really
could...
Before you make that, I think this guy's

(01:42:30):
insincere.
He knows exactly what's going on.
The Democrats know that they're trying to push
this off to the primary, I keep saying
primary, but the midterms.
They keep trying to push off, and these
guys know that that's what they're trying to
do.
So they keep saying, it's Trump, it's Trump.
He's in there, he's in the thing.
We gotta get it out quick, because they
want it out quick.
But this is insincerity at the highest order

(01:42:53):
from this guy, Murphy.
This Murphy guy is a bad guy.
He's a bad dude.
He's a bad dude.
He is terrible, but he knows exactly what's
going on.
I'm not fooled by this nonsense.
He's up there with Corn Pop, another bad
dude.
How about this though?
How about, I mean, everyone's talking, pedophile, pedophile,
pedophile, meh.

(01:43:15):
I would be less surprised if what came
out is MI6, possibly Mossad, but I think
MI6 is more likely.
That's what Epstein was involved in.
That's what Maxwell was involved in.
That's what Maxwell's dead.
Yeah, blackmail operations.
Yeah, but from MI6, not from the Mossad.
Yeah, you know, yeah, maybe.

(01:43:41):
And I say, well, I mean, this is
our thinking right now.
We're kind of floating in that direction.
Yes.
With this anti-MI6, all of a sudden,
we've established that.
I may have been hypnotized in my hour
and been pre-programmed to blame the MI6
for something that Mossad's doing because the Jews,

(01:44:02):
the Mossads actually run the BBC.
And that's what we don't understand because we
know that the Jews run the media, so
why don't they run the BBC?
And the whole thing is a misdirection and
we've been duped, both of us.
Possibly.
Here's the president.
I know nothing.
This, by the way, is sweetened by News

(01:44:24):
Nation.
This is run through Adobe.
This is the president on the plane and
this is what it sounds like when you
run it through Adobe, which is well done.
I mean, it gets choppy here and there.
I know nothing about that.
They would have announced that a long time
ago.
It's really, what did he mean when he
spent all the time with Bill Clint?
Clint?
With the president of Harvard, who you know,

(01:44:45):
who that is, Summers?
Oh, Larry Summers, the president of Harvard.
Oh.
No, he was with the Treasury Department when
he became the president of Harvard.
Later, yes, later.
Before or later.
I can't remember.
I'm gonna have to look it up.
He was either before or later.
Now, if you want an MI6 connection, Larry
Summers, when he was at Treasury Department?

(01:45:07):
Banking, City of London, I don't know.
Larry Summers, whatever his name is, and all
of the other people that he spent time
with.
Jeffrey Epstein and I had a very bad
relationship for many years, but he also saw
strength because I was president.
So he dictated a couple of memos to
himself.
Give me a break.
You're gonna find out what did he know

(01:45:28):
with respect to Bill Clint, with respect to
the head of Harvard, with respect to all
of those people that he knew, including JPMorgan
Chase.
Now, the JPMorgan Chase thing is very interesting
because all those documents, no one's talking about
it, but all of the documents came out,
I think a week or two ago, and
JPMorgan Chase, he was like, yeah, I need

(01:45:51):
$800,000.
Okay, here it is, cash.
I need $50,000, give it to that
person.
There was all kinds of suspicious transaction reports
being filed.
Anybody would have been kicked out of the
bank except for Epstein.
And so if you listen very carefully to
what the president says here, he tells us
what we're gonna see.
But he also saw strength because I was

(01:46:14):
president.
So he dictated a couple of memos to
himself.
Give me a break.
You're gonna find out what did he know
with respect to Bill Clint, with respect to
the head of Harvard, with respect to all
of those people that he knew, including JPMorgan
Chase.
What did he know?
What did he know?
Yeah, maybe.

(01:46:35):
Trump does this.
It's possible.
I'm gonna read you Larry Summers' little bio
here, or the chronology.
He was a Harvard president from 2001 to
2006.
Then he became the United States Secretary of
the Treasury under Clinton in 99.
Well, he was there from 99 to 2001.
Then he became Harvard.
Clinton Rhodes Scholar.

(01:46:57):
Yeah, and he's a Democrat.
Yeah, Rhodes Scholar.
Yeah, then he became the Undersecretary 95, 95.
Okay, so he went from the Treasury to
Harvard, and then he became the Director of
the National Economics Council in 2009, after he
left Harvard.
He was there from 2001 to 2006.

(01:47:18):
So he's a Clintonista, and he, right, yeah.
Which brings us back, this makes it more
English.
Maybe it's much less about sex stuff and
a lot more about espionage, control, finance, finance.

(01:47:38):
Yeah, well, hopefully we'll know.
Four more years.
The one thing that I did learn, and
this is possibly the reason why Bannon was
kind of kicked out of Trump's circle.
And Bannon, by the way, is listed on
the group that Massey was talking about, the

(01:47:59):
10 people.
Bannon was one of them.
So on the value payments, I'm big on,
by the way, I've been talking to Justin
from the Boots and the Sneakers, No Agenda
Boots, No Agenda Sneakers.
Yeah.
He's all in.
He says, you're going to have cool stitching
on the sneakers with no agenda on it.
We'll do something cool on the boots.

(01:48:20):
Yeah, we're going to rival the value attainment
boys with our stuff.
We'll probably beat them.
Oh, easily.
We're going to be cheaper for starters, like
599 bucks for shoes.
We have to consider the cost of these
things.
I mean, you can't be.
Well, and these are made in America, not
made in Europe.
Italy.
No, they're made in America, baby, by Merkins.

(01:48:44):
Anyway.
Yeah, we know how to make shoes.
Sneakers, we invented the sneaker.
We invented the sneaker.
Because the PDB is, the value attainment are
sneakers, just with leather looking tops.
Anyway, onward, we'll get to that when we
get to it.
Yeah, you were making a point before you
got distracted.
About the value attainment guy.

(01:49:05):
And I have to say, I love the
PDB value attainment guy because he has Michael
Wolff on.
And he's like.
You're talking about PBD himself.
Yeah, PBD himself is talking to Michael Wolff.
And PBD is like, he's basically, I mean,
if you listen to the whole interview, he
really wanted to buy the tapes.
He wants to buy the tapes, the 100
hours or whatever, that Michael Wolff has.

(01:49:28):
And Michael Wolff is not selling.
But he keeps, until he finally, he actually
at the end, he says, oh, I thought
you wanted to sell the tape.
No, no, I'm never going to sell the
tapes because I'm sure he's being optioned.
Hey, Brunetti, Brunetti, this is, you got to
option this guy.
Think about that.
House of Epstein, just a thought.

(01:49:50):
House of Epstein.
Oh yeah, that's a winner.
Yeah, I mean, 50 Shades of Epstein.
Come on, man, keep the franchise going.
So in this conversation, it comes up and
PBD thinks that Bannon has tapes too.
And Michael Wolff sets him straight on this.

(01:50:12):
And I think this is probably the reason
why Bannon was kicked out.
With the 100 hours that you have, are
there, is there anything in there?
Like, let's just say I'm an interested buyer.
I would be interested in buying the 100
hours that you have.
I would- PBD is a businessman.
I want to buy that, man.
I don't need Brunetti, I can produce it

(01:50:33):
myself in Italy.
Be interested in buying Bannon's 15, 16 hours
that he has, right?
I would be interested in both of them.
How- Let me just add about Bannon's,
I wouldn't buy them from Bannon if I
were you because Bannon does not own them.
Oh, who owns them?
I didn't know that.
Yeah, Jeffrey Epstein paid for those.
The estate owns it.

(01:50:53):
The estate owns it, so wow, okay.
So that's a new fact.
He would never be able to use those
hours in a documentary.
Yes, and again, let me stress that although
Steve, who I am personally fond of-
Yeah, when someone says that, I'm personally fond
of you, that means I hate you.
Although Steve, who I am personally fond of,

(01:51:15):
but Steve's cover here that he was making
a documentary about Epstein is 100% not
true.
I know this because I was there and
I'm fully aware and actually have it on
tape of what transpired here, and that was
Bannon's effort to help Epstein with his legal

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problems, and this would be in 2019 when
the law was closing in on Epstein and
Bannon's suggestion was that Epstein go on national
TV to try to perform a mea culpa
or explain or humanize himself in some way,

(01:52:01):
and then Bannon offered to help prepare him.
So essentially what Bannon was doing was media
training.
He was tutoring Epstein in how to face
a hostile interview on a hypothetical 60 minutes.
Huh, so Bannon was- Oh, geez, thank

(01:52:26):
you very much.
Highly unexpected.
♪ Clip of the day ♪ Yes, indeed.
So what would a former naval intelligence guy
want to do to be helping Epstein with
his image in a hypothetical 60 minutes interview?
This reeks of intelligence issues.

(01:52:46):
It reeks of something.
For one thing, Bannon as a image consultant,
media advisor- Look at his own, look
at his hair.
No, that's not the guy.
Hey, Bannon, shave.
That's not the guy.
That's not the guy you want for that.
So, you know, and perhaps that is the

(01:53:07):
biggest problem is that because we know that
Epstein, you know, oh, he's intelligence.
You know, that's what was said during his
early prosecution.
Oh, he's intelligence.
He belongs to intelligence.
Everyone thinks CIA.
No, I think British intelligence.
Then how close is British intelligence to naval

(01:53:28):
intelligence?
I don't know.
This just smells of something different.
Sources and methods.
I don't know.
But I think the whole smokescreen- I
would- Yeah?
I'm just thinking offhand that Bannon meeting up
with Epstein supposedly as a media consultant is
really a debriefing.
Ooh.
Yeah, there you go.

(01:53:48):
Debriefing, yes.
Yeah.
Wow.
I don't know.
You know, it makes things exciting, though.
That's for sure.
We're the only ones doing this.
Everyone else is mad, just mad.
He's protecting pedophiles!
You know, I'm stunned that we don't have
better support.

(01:54:09):
Well, no, this is- We had a
- This is a plate.
As we get into it, I do have
a report about the Albany meetup.
Why don't we do that now, man?
I mean, it's a good time for it.
But yes, when it comes to support, I
mean, not just financially, but just philosophically, people

(01:54:30):
are just- There are people who just
hate us.
Hate us for not being on the same
firing line as the other podcasts.
You know, how could- We have always
just spoken our own mind, and people can't
believe it when they disagree with us or
our opinion, and then, you know, we're captured,

(01:54:51):
we're on the take, we're Asians.
But nobody can identify who captured us.
Well, the Jews.
Hello?
That's obvious.
Hey, with that, I want to thank you
for your courage to say good morning to
you, the man who put the C in
Chomsky on an airplane.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end, the one, the only, Mr. John C.
DeMora!

(01:55:12):
Yeah, good morning, you guys.
My name's John C.
DeMora.
I ship a Seagulls to the ref in
the air.
Subs in the water and the dames and
knights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the
troll room, we'll see you in the morning.
We have zero, zero listeners.
Zero.
It seems unlikely since they've been cuing you
more than once today.

(01:55:33):
No, no one has cued me at all
today.
No, everything is, I'm honest about that.
No, there's exactly zero.
It literally said, troll count zero.
Listener count zero.
It could be.
Oh wait, Darren O has 18, thank you,
Darren.
Okay, Darren somehow got the numbers.
I trust Darren.

(01:55:55):
1889, okay.
Yeah, it's too low.
Well, it is what it is.
There was, again, there's been some problems with
the troll room.
Let me see, Void Zero sent me some
message during the show that something broke.
I don't know.
It's what it is.
It's amazing any of this stuff works at
all.

(01:56:16):
Yeah, I have to agree to be honest.
Anyway, those trolls are listening live.
They're listening to us through noagendastream.com and
they may even be, if they're smart, they
may be listening on one of those modern
podcast apps, podcastapps.com, where you get alerted
when we go live or any of the
No Agenda streams.
And in fact, any podcast can do this.

(01:56:37):
Any podcast can go live.
And these modern podcast apps, if you're listening
right now, in a Podverse or Fountain or
Podcast Guru or TrueFans, you'll see a little
donate button.
So you can literally, while you're listening, hit
that button and it'll go straight to our
donation page, Bob's Your Uncle.
Boom, done.
You can even boost us if you have

(01:56:58):
enough sats in your wallet and it shows
up in our Strike account.
So we're a very modern show here.
We're really doing some cool things.
Value for value.
It's kept us straight and honest and on
the right path for 18 years.
It's always a rollercoaster, particularly when big issues
come around.
I don't think I've ever quite seen it

(01:57:19):
like this though, where there's just so much
vitriol out.
There's a lot more podcasts, you know, and
we don't go on enough other podcasts.
We need to go on everyone else's podcast.
Well, I find that disgusting.
What do you find disgusting?
I mean, I'll do it, but I don't,

(01:57:41):
because I see these podcasters and they're, Tucker's
on this guy's podcast and he's on Tucker's
podcast.
This is the log rolling kind of thing.
And they're all of the same, the America
First people are the worst.
And by the way, Fuentes has, you know,
he has this, they even have a hat.
Oh, he has America First hat?
Yeah, and they're blue.

(01:58:02):
Merch, merch.
The merch.
It's a blue hat instead of red and
it says America First.
It's to counter the MAGA hat.
So this phony baloney schism, which by the
way was mentioned in those BBC reports we
played, the schism between America First and MAGA
is bogus.
It's only on podcasts.

(01:58:23):
It's probably- It's on podcasts, yeah.
It's probably about- Well, the BBC brought
it up.
I'd say it's about a million people who
are aware of it and probably 300,000
who really care.
That's what I'm thinking.
That's pretty generous.
Maybe.
But you know, Megyn Kelly's doing her, we
need to do an arena tour.

(01:58:44):
Megyn Kelly, Candice, Tucker, Fuentes, and maybe two
or three others, Dave Smith perhaps and a
couple others are all on this America First
bandwagon.
Yeah.
And they're all blowing each other.
Yeah.
We need to get in on that game.
And so they're going from, they're podcasting this

(01:59:06):
podcast and then they're talking about it.
They're not only doing that, they're talking about
each other.
Yeah, I know, I know.
On one side of the fence and then
they're talking about the other side of the
fence which has got Trump.
But see, this is what happens is that's
why, and I think that's part of what
we're seeing before unfolding before us is they
have to keep moving to new topics because

(01:59:27):
at a certain point people burn out on
the Israel thing.
And it has moved.
It's moved from the Israel thing back to
the Epstein thing and then it'll move to
foreign wars.
And it's kind of a, it's a circular
thing.
It goes around and around and around and
around.
And it is one of the oldest tricks
in the British playbook is divide and conquer.

(01:59:50):
It kind of happened to the Tea Party.
You remember the Tea Party, Ron Paul?
Oh yeah, they got co-opted by a
bunch of Republican old hacks.
Yeah, and then Ron Paul was out.
They kicked him out.
Yeah, Ron Paul is the first, he was
the first thing, he kicked to the curb
immediately.
And I loved Ron Paul.
Do you remember, this is during the era
of the show.

(02:00:10):
Do you remember when they had one of
the first CPAC meetings and that's when the
Tea Party was getting very prominent before they
kicked Ron Paul out and they did a
straw poll on who should be president and
Ron Paul beat them all by a large
margin?
Yeah, and all of a sudden Tea Party
was taken over by somebody else.
Who took over the Tea Party?
It was one of these Texas congressmen and

(02:00:31):
Texas is loaded with these two-faced Republicans
who seem like the- No kidding.
Yeah, you're there.
You can see more of them than I
know of.
Let me see, who took over?
I can't remember that one guy's name.
And then some people from the Northeast also

(02:00:52):
grabbed part of it and the whole thing
was destroyed from the inside out from co
-option.
Very standard way of doing it.
Ron Paul pretty much says the Republican Party
took over, but it was certain people.
It was just a group, the old line,
the RINOs, I wouldn't call it.
They're not really RINOs.
Wait, wait, wait, didn't they get taken over

(02:01:13):
by Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman and people
like that?
No, no, they came later.
There was a male in particular who started
to dominate the Tea Party thing.
We can argue, we'll look into it later.
It's kind of boring.
But the fact is is that this sort
of thing is what this divide and conquer
and this America first thing is part of
that.

(02:01:34):
It's part of that same system.
And that's why half these guys, they're all
bitching about, I mean, they were all, they're
all in line with complaining about Israel and
they're all in line about now complaining about
Trump.
They all have issues because Trump promised this,
he promised that.
The guy's been in office for less than
a year and he's supposed to have done

(02:01:55):
this and that Fuentes hates him.
Right, but this is all about the midterms.
It's all about the true control, which will
be the House and the Senate.
My prediction is that the Democrats will flip
the House, they'll get the House, impeach Trump

(02:02:17):
immediately.
And what are they gonna impeach him on?
The Venezuelan boats.
That's what pops up as a legal thing.
Interesting.
Well, that would suck.
Yeah, because they're just screw everything up and
you're gonna be back on track to nothing,
nothing.
We just play those clips from the previous

(02:02:41):
two impeachments, same stuff.
Yeah, just a waste of time.
So I'm asking the AIs and it does
see, Sarah Palin is mentioned continuously as-
No, she got involved.
She was no doubt about that.
All of a sudden she's a Tea Party
person.
Yes, that was the 2010 National Tea Party
Convention in Nashville.

(02:03:03):
And that's when it all fell apart for
Ron Paul.
Ted Cruz, Michelle Bachmann.
Yeah, there's one guy whose name's mentioned, I
can jump up and down, but.
Anyway, hey, time, talent and treasure is how

(02:03:24):
value for value works.
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(02:03:44):
And Darren O'Neill did the artwork for
us, which was all AI, of course.
Darren knows what he's doing.
This was the octagon.
I don't know if this was, I mean,
you don't have to use AI for this
simple joke.
No, he used AI.
Well, actually, you know.
And by the way, as a mea culpa.
Yes.
The stop sign is not six-sided.

(02:04:05):
It's eight-sided.
We kept saying six-sided.
Well, that's because the producer said six sides.
Yeah, and then we fell in line.
Yes.
I also got another mea culpa for us
from the Archduke of Central Florida.
He says, a comment for you on show
1860.
And after the first break, you were talking
about the 50-year mortgage during that discussion,
you talked about deductibility of interest for income

(02:04:26):
tax purposes.
You suggested there was a limitation on the
amount of interest that could be deducted.
In 2017, the 2017 tax bill limited the
SALT, state and local income taxes, deduction to
10,000, raised it to 40,000, the
big, beautiful bill.
This limitation only relates to state and local
taxes.
Income and sales property, and sales tax property

(02:04:49):
has nothing to do with interest.
The only limitation on interest deductibility relates to
interest on mortgages that are more than $1
million.
I looked this up and I would recommend
people go to publication 936.
Oh, 936, everybody.
And it discusses, and the number they have

(02:05:09):
there is not 1 million, but 750,000.
So I don't know, but publication 936 of
2024, a home mortgage and interest deduction explains
this, and yes, we're probably wrong.
And we do not give tax advice on
this show.
It's all just, we just talk.

(02:05:29):
He also said, not trying to be critical.
No, we can tell the difference.
These corrections are noted and researched.
Yes.
So he has to explain publication 936 to
me.
The things that get my goat is when
they say, as a Christian, I don't feel
you were really contributing to the kingdom with
that conversation.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, well, that would be you mostly.

(02:05:52):
That gets my goat.
Yes, it should.
Okay, everybody out there, you have your marching
orders, you know what gets his goat.
Thanks.
There it is, John being mean to me.
Mean.
So Darren did the no agenda stop sign,
which should immediately remind you to donate.

(02:06:14):
Oh, I got another note from about the
stop sign.
One of our producers went on and on
with a long exposition, which is so good,
I'm gonna probably put it in a newsletter
or I may put it online somehow.
Yeah.
If I get permission.
Can you summarize?
Yes, the original stop signs were yellow.
Oh.
And there's a number of, in fact, most

(02:06:35):
of the stop signs were yellow until like,
you know, at some point they started, in
fact, he's got, there's some town in Indiana
that had yellow ones until like the 80s.
And then he pointed this out to the
history of the stop sign was not always
what it was.
And he says stop in a German stop
sign too, instead of halt.
He pointed that, he thought that was weird.

(02:06:56):
And there's also a blue stop sign that
came and went that was used in some
sort of railroad crossings or something is different.
But so it's a very interesting lecture.
It was a long two page lecture about
stop signs.
I recommend that this guy write a book,
the history of the stop sign.

(02:07:16):
And we will, in fact, give you the
little blurbs for your book.
Yeah.
Couldn't do the show without this book.
Other artwork that was, now I liked the
sumo wrestler.
You didn't like the sumo wrestler.
I don't know why you have something about
fat guys, which is also a Darren O
'Neill.

(02:07:37):
The other one we talked about, we thought
Jeffrey Rios, poor African kids with no agenda
t-shirts was funny, but even we didn't
feel that was appropriate.
Yes, we thought it was in bad taste.
Very bad taste.
There were lots of drone stuff, the lesbian
report.
I personally like Nessworks as I'm a podcast

(02:07:58):
enthusiast, but like, yeah, the stop sign was
just better.
And people are trying to do little cartoons.
You're over complicating it.
The art just has to be simple.
You know, you've got Trump, the Trump show,
hitting a red button, you're fired, Kimmel, then
a guy gets shot out of a cannon,

(02:08:18):
doesn't even look like Kimmel, looks like Colbert.
You're making it too complicated.
Just try to be simple.
Right?
It does look like Colbert.
Yeah, it doesn't look like Kimmel at all.
And they got the Trump show and then
Dvorak and Curry down at the bottom.
Yeah, it's simple.
Think simple.

(02:08:39):
And Jeffrey Ria is thinking too simple.
He's found the new model to use, new
LLM, new generative AI.
And it's got this very distinctive look, kind
of blockish.
What do you call that?
You're the art major here.
What do you call that?
Blockish look?
Yeah, like the two spooks, the Intel sharing.

(02:09:00):
He's got a couple of these.
I had to find one of these pieces
you're talking about.
Yeah, if you roll down, no agenda, it's
Intel sharing.
They got two spooks handing each other classified
document.
He has a couple, he's done a couple
of these.
It's a style, it's a style.
It's a school of art.

(02:09:23):
Anyway, a lot of slop, tons of slop,
which of course is good because that'll help
the model collapse even quicker.
That'll do good.
Hey, actually the Intel sharing thing is a
kind of a variation of spy versus spy.
Yeah, but what's that art style?
Yeah, that art style.
There's a couple of different things going on

(02:09:44):
here.
There is a, it's like a combination of
cubism for the background and the front is
something else.
There's a Nabaist or something.
There's some other screwy thing going on here.
But it's obviously in the LLM, whatever it
is.
And why is the guy's arm going through
the table?

(02:10:05):
It's like his arm is like in through
the table, the hard table that's there.
It's called bad.
It's just bad.
Yeah, it's just bad.
It's just bad, it's not good.
By the way, Rob, the constitutional lawyer says,
sorry, nope, US law is hard enough.
So we can't count him in from international
law advice.
We will thank our executive and associate executive

(02:10:27):
producers.
Many of them showed up at the Albany
meetup.
So John will be giving his little report.
And of course- Including a note someone
sent in complaining about me.
Which will be lovely to listen to.
I'm excited.
We thank all of our financial supporters, $50
and above.
We'll give their name or whatever you put

(02:10:49):
on your payment details and your location.
And of course, we always like to thank
people who are able to give us $200
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We, in fact, will read any note you
send in within reason and we will give
you the title of associate executive producer, which
is an official Hollywood credit.
You can use that anywhere Hollywood credits are
recognized, including imdb.com, $300 or more.

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And we will give you an executive producer
title and the same applies.
We'll read your note.
And as always, the people who send in
300 or more have very short notes.
Commodore G comes in from Cincinnati, Ohio.
He is a Commodore after all, $343 and
75 cents.
I'm thinking that's 333.33 with some fees

(02:11:30):
added.
He says, thank you for your courage and
diligent work, peace and long life.
Commodore G.
Thank you, Commodore G.
Okay, let's start with the meetup money, including
starting with Sir Lawrence of Dystopia.
He's in Oakland.
He actually didn't write a short note.
I will try to distill it.

(02:11:52):
It looks like it was typed and it
looks like the ribbon is going.
So that's just an advance warning.
This is from Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, baronet
of Maxwell Park.
He becomes a baron today, by the way.
Kilo, Osco, six, Echo, Juliet, Echo.
73s.
So he's a little ham.

(02:12:12):
I hope this finds you well.
I want to convey how much I love
the tip of the day, the grandma's secret
spot remover and the Wego lever nuts come
to mind.
I use the Wego lever nuts on my
elevators.
It makes, I don't know what he's referring
to, but he's using them.

(02:12:33):
It makes a huge difference when a previous
mechanic has shoved a bunch of wires into
a terminal and it's barely holding together.
Yes, we all have done that.
With the Wego lever nuts, I can put
however many wires into one Wego, the proper
circuit goes on.

(02:12:54):
Lastly, after becoming a baronet after John's birthday
extravaganza, I realize I am now a baron,
accounting below, and I should like to be
Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, baron of Maxwell Park.
Thank you for your attention to this important
matter.
Nice.
Adios, mofos, he finishes.

(02:13:14):
The next two are notes that you have,
so you might as well read those too.
Dame Audra.
These are from the meetup again.
These are all the ones, it's the reason
we have a slew of them in shape
of altogether.
Dame Audra and I, this is from Dame
Audra of Legoland and Dr. Don, and this

(02:13:35):
is $333.33. And this is a nice
short note.
Dame Audra and I love giving and receiving.
Dramatic pause.
Value for value.
Oh, I was fooled for a moment.
Kindest regards.
Thank you.
Onward with the Ross Johnson and Eugene Berrigan.

(02:13:56):
Wait now, how about Sir Chris and Dame
Kristen?
I'm sorry, Sir Chris and Dame Kristen.
Yes.
$333.33. This is on a card.
You can tell by the noise.
In the morning, thanks for all the great
media deconstruction twice a week.
We never miss a show.
This was our first meetup.
Oh, nice.
But hopefully not our last.
All the best to you and only the,

(02:14:20):
and the entire No Agenda back office.
Cheers, Sir Chris and Dame Kristen Carmel.
I'll pick up with Ross Johnson from Eugene,
Oregon.
$333.33. I really appreciate a criticism with
a donation.

(02:14:41):
So I thank you because this is very
critical of me.
Adam is editorializing America away from home.
I'm not quite sure what that means.
You're in Texas.
His newfound Catholicism sucks.
Wow.
Here we have the Gellerm, whatever that thing's

(02:15:01):
called.
Gell-man amnesia.
Gell-man, yeah.
I am not a Catholic.
Not at all.
Believe me.
His newfound Catholicism sucks because we never talk
about home truths anymore.
I understand handpicking sides is impossible for Adam.
Why don't we get U.S. media deconstruction

(02:15:22):
anymore?
I'm a knight.
I'm a little baffled by this.
I'm not quite sure.
I have no idea.
Is that because I play clips from abroad?
Is that the reason why?
Well, I do too.
Yeah, but we also play U.S. clips
and we deconstruct.
Well, he makes it sound as though you're

(02:15:42):
in England or Holland.
As a Catholic.
Maybe he's only listened to one show and
you're a Catholic.
You're like a Catholic from France and you're
bitching about the Americas.
Those Americans!
That's what it sounds like.
Yeah, in a bit, yeah.
Well, thank you, Ross.
Again, any criticism accompanied by a donation is

(02:16:02):
love.
We're good.
Is love.
That is my favorite type of value for
value.
Complain more.
Yes.
Dame Shelley in Grand Forks, North Dakota, 333
.33. You got me with the puppies.
Dame Shelley, good.
Then we go to Surrounded by My Privilege,
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 333.

(02:16:24):
This is a Jew money donation on behalf
of BBM the Cabal.
There we go.
There's our Jew money.
Where's our?
Our tally for Jew money is pretty low,
sub a thousand.
Keep up the good work, gents.
The Muslims are beating the Jews.
Yes.
Just throwing that out there.
By a long shot, by a long shot.

(02:16:45):
And then he accompanied a clip and he
says, please play, you choked.
Oh, and then he wanted followed by two
to the head.
Okay, I didn't realize he wanted that.
Okay, and he sent this in.
You choked.
Okay, that must've been a bet of some

(02:17:06):
kind.
I'm not sure.
Pretty extreme.
Yes, okay.
Thank you very much, Surrounded by My Privilege.
Now we go to Gus Cornell in Nevada
City, California.
Out of the note.
Gus came down from Nevada City.
Please accept this first time donation on behalf
of my wife.
This is a switcheroo.

(02:17:27):
Oh, okay.
For Leora, L-E-O-R-A, Cornell,
C-O-R-N-A-E-L.
Leora, Leora?
L-E-O-R-A, Leora.
Yes, done, got it.
In the switcheroo.
She hit me in the mouth during COVID.
Oh yeah, I talked to him about this.
She hit me in the mouth during COVID

(02:17:47):
and our relationship has never been better.
Ooh, nice.
In fact, he came up to me later.
And I'll finish the note.
We love the show and have never had
a fight.
Thank you for all you did, no jingles,
no karma.
He came up to me, he said, he
said literally that our show saved his marriage.

(02:18:09):
Wow.
And this was during COVID.
So I assume there was some beef between
the two of them about getting this vax
or something, or masking up, or there was
something that was, there was a discrepancy in
the way they were thinking.
And that's when he was introduced to the
show by her.
And she said, listen to this while you
sleep on the couch.

(02:18:33):
And he said it was the best thing
that ever happened.
Awesome.
And I do mean that.
Yeah, I do too.
I agree.
Another associate executive producership.
He racks them up almost every single show
for Eli the Coffee Guy from Bensonville, Illinois
to 1116.
He always sends us $200 plus the dates,
1116.
You can, you get it.

(02:18:54):
He says, a lot of you have been
asking when.
The answer is now.
Ah, gigawatt nitro cold brew cans have officially
arrived and producers get the first dibs.
This is an outstanding product.
I blasted through my recent supply.
Yeah, remember to shake vigorously before you drink

(02:19:17):
it.
It releases the nitro.
Yeah, I did that finally.
The second can, I shook it up and
it formed.
Yeah, you got some nitro.
Yeah, I got nitro.
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(02:19:39):
Stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy and
a rare request for a jingle, Rev Al
all jitty with it.
Okay.
The GOP infighting is escalating.
Political says Democrats are outright jitty.
Happy to watch the GOP implode.
Good old Rev Al.
My current batch, he sent me three bags,

(02:20:02):
four bags of the latest blends.
Yes.
I want to thank him for that.
Oh yeah, good, good, good, good.
Onward to Scott Johnson in Kissimmee, Florida, 20477.
It's Kissimmee.
Well, he wrote Kassimmee.

(02:20:24):
He did not.
So we're both wrong.
Oh, Kassimmee, Kassimmee.
Yeah, that's what I said.
Kassimmee.
Kassimmee.
No, it's Kissimmee.
Yeah, Kissimmee.
Kassimmee, Kissimmee, Kissimmee.
Okay, in the morning, Jon and Dan, last
time I donated, I was annoyed at how
my note was red.

(02:20:46):
Okay.
Later, I recall that you two are regularly
mean to each other, so why should a
producer expect better treatment?
Then I discovered my own brother doubted the
capabilities of my photo export app.
He, too, was a scoffer until the day
his wife used photo export to select and
convert 140 movies from her iPhone in one

(02:21:08):
job.
She needed the movies in MP4 format to
create a year-in-the-life movie for
their granddaughter on her PC.
My brother was convinced, convinced I say, that
my app would crash or just refuse to
handle such a large job.
To my brother's amazement, photo expert converted and
copied the selected 140 movies in just a

(02:21:31):
few minutes to a USB drive connected to
her iPhone.
It's amazing.
I'd like to continue to support the best
podcast in the universe.
To make that possible, I need some installs
and reviews of my photo export to continue.
So please, if you have an iPhone or
iPad, what does he do for Android?
Nah, Android's so far.
Or if you know somebody who does install

(02:21:52):
photo export today, you can find it on
the Apple App Store.
And finally, a big thank you to everybody
who has already installed photo expert, Scott Johnson
and Kasimi.
Doing cross-platform Android and iOS is very
hard.
Yeah.
I know.
We have an app.
We have an app.

(02:22:13):
It's called Work.
Yeah, we have an app, Godcaster app.
Very hard to do, so it's difficult.
Hey, there's Sir Hebe of Hogtown.
I wonder if this is also Jew money.
From Alchua, Florida, $200.66. Adam, let's pretend
it's 1989 and I have a Dial MTV

(02:22:34):
-esque request.
But instead of Guns N' Roses or Def
Leppard, in your best Mark Rutter voice, please
say, swapping out Biden is not an option
and it's too risky to vote a third
party in New York State.
This is a little ode to my...
We'll do anything for money.
This is a little ode to my friend,

(02:22:55):
Christine, who I punched in the mouth a
few months back.
She married into a family of insufferable elitist
libs and this sort of humor is all
that's keeping her from climbing a clock tower.
I'd also like to do the switcheroo for
her, so please credit this donation to her,
Christine Bonus.
As-salamu alaykum, my brothers.

(02:23:16):
Sir Hebe of Hogtown.
Well, I'm very confused now.
Is this Jew money or Muslim money?
It's confusing.
So, Christine Bonus for the switcheroo.
You got it, you got it.
Linda Lou Patkin, Lakewood, Colorado, 200 bucks jobs
coming for competitive edge, she writes.
With a resume that gets results, go to
imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and

(02:23:39):
job search needs.
That's Image Makers Inc with a K and
work with Linda Lou, she's the Duchess of
Jobs and writer of winning resumes.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Nisga'a, karma.
Duke Slambob, Rolling Knight of Guadalupe.

(02:24:00):
As we say in Texas, $200, associate executive
producer and he says, sirs, I ask what
is the outro music?
It sounds like Coltrane.
Drives me nuts I can't find it because
I loves me some Adam music.
Thanks to JCD for all you do.
Was lost a bit, but thanks to no
agenda.
Now I am Duke Slambob, Rolling Knight of

(02:24:23):
Guadalupe.
It is the, I can tell you what
it is.
It is called, where's the file here?
The Marriott Jazz Quintet and the title of
the music is On the Seventh Day and
we have been using that for forever, I
think.
Yeah, I think so, right off the bat

(02:24:44):
because it's one of the pod free or
whatever you had it called.
You had a website of pod free, royalty
free podcast stuff, whatever.
Yeah, and now that I just did that,
something, oh, hold on a second, this is
it here.
That's the one.
I don't think, I don't know if that
was, yeah, that was the Pod Save Music
Network.
That's what you're talking about.

(02:25:04):
Yes, that's right.
Hey, there's Brian and Susie from Liberty, Maine.
This is, Brian and I had a back
and forth and I was very hurt by
his comments and so he donated, which I
thank you, brother.
I love it.
What did he say to you that hurt
your feelings?
It was about, he was the one that

(02:25:26):
start off with, you know, as a Christian,
but it was- Oh, okay, one of
those notes.
Well, no, but it was really more about
us using Heather and Brett to, to explain
Gell-Mann amnesia.
And then after this back and forth, you
know, he was kind of like a don't

(02:25:46):
shoot inside the tent kind of guy.
And then after some back and forth, it
turns out that the thing that really irked
him is what you said at the end
of that whole segment.
And what was it that I said?
You said, why are you even listening to
that crap?
How can you listen- Oh, about Brett
and Heather?
Yeah.
Yeah, why are you listening to that crap?

(02:26:07):
You never answered it.
Because I said that I liked them and
that I liked their show.
And then, you know, so what happens is
people associate me with your horrible takes.
Yeah, well, it's not a horrible take.
I think it's an accurate take.
It's on the money.
Well, but this is it.
And then, so I'm like, well, and I
was really deflated by it.

(02:26:29):
I was, you know, you see, you don't
have my life.
I have to take all the crap, whatever
secret sauce you have that everyone complains to
me about you besides the fact that you
don't have a phone that operates and your
email blocks everybody.
No, actually, it does operate, but I just
keep it in the drawer.
And even if they could get through your
email filters, they can't spell your name.

(02:26:50):
And it goes to johnatdvorak.com 10 times
out of- Go ahead, there you go.
You know, it's like, it's .org, people.
You know, or it's like, I couldn't find
John's email address.
You know what?
Yeah, I'm not going to- No, these
are all your tricks.
So, you know- My tricks, my mind
tricks.
These are not the drones you're looking for.

(02:27:12):
And it's very discouraging to me.
You know, it brings me down because people
are always complaining about things you say to
me.
Yeah.
And sometimes they'll send, sometimes you email the
wrong guy and then they'll email back.
Yeah, once in a while, you just, yeah,
you give them, but you're very kirked with
the people that do that.
Because it's, it deflates me.

(02:27:36):
From Brian and Susie in Liberty, Maine.
Adam, love you, brother.
Love you too, John.
Save for the TikTok clips, which are like
seeing a dead deer on the road.
Kind of sad and a definite waste of
resources.
No jingles, no karma.
We'll see, there you go.
This guy's no good.
I've known this guy.
I've stayed at his house.
This guy is very good.
He's a very, very cool dude.

(02:27:58):
Well, if he was, he would like the
TikTok clips better.
That is not- Seems to me, I
could be wrong.
I never stayed at his house.
I do not measure people.
I haven't shacked up with the guy, so
I don't know.
I don't measure people by whether they like
TikTok clips or not.
Anonymous is last on the list.
Turned 79 on November 4th.
Gentlemen, I really enjoyed the show.

(02:28:19):
Continue the great work.
That's a $200 donation from Anonymous.
And I do have some meetup stuff, if
you want to do that now or at
the beginning of the next reading.
Let's do it.
People came to the meetup.
Are you kidding me?
Let's honor them.
Okay.
I'm going to start before I read the
notes, but I'm not going to read the
notes.
I'm going to just give some credits here
for the money that it's like.
For example, Tim and Susie Landreth from the

(02:28:43):
Landreth something and cattle.
It's a cattle ranch up in Nebraska.
They were out here, so they decided to
come to the meetup.
They didn't come here for the meetup.
He made that clear.
But he did drop off some T-bones
from Nebraska and they're frozen.
Nice.
In a container with the cold source in

(02:29:03):
there.
And so I got some meat.
By the way, that reminds me, Texas Slim
just signed a big agreement with the El
Salvadorian Ministry of Agriculture.
What does that mean?
I don't know, but there's a picture of
Texas Slim Minister of Agriculture in El Salvador.

(02:29:27):
I guess he's promoting beef in El Salvador.
But anytime Texas Slim gets some positive news,
I'm happy for him.
He just seems like a good guy.
He's a very good dude.
Very good.
Now we have John Lake in Santa Cruz
came in with a hundred bucks, but his
real kicker, which everybody who saw it said
this, you know, we're aghast.

(02:29:49):
He had, and I have it now.
He was thinking of giving me a copy,
but he decided to give me the original.
This is a letterhead.
This is letterhead paper, which I could probably
type a note on.
Letterhead paper from, it looks like the forties
or fifties.
It's really like an old piece of paper,
but with letterhead, official government letterhead.

(02:30:10):
Oh, okay.
And what kind of government, what is on
the letterhead?
Biological Warfare Lab, Fort Dietrich, Maryland.
Wow.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When you see, oh.
How about this?
You should type in there, you know, make
it look a little, do it on your
old Corona typewriter.

(02:30:33):
Keep under wraps.
The deer ticks are bad.
Yes.
We should talk about that at the show
sometime.
Anyway, I want to thank him for the,
that was a lot of trouble to do
that.
He came with a hundred dollars on top
of it.
That's cool.
But the, this letterhead is just dynamite.
It's a total collectible.
And now I need the pirate flag.

(02:30:54):
That's the way to John's heart.
With a collectible.
Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah.
150 bucks from Charlotte Worcester.
She comes in, she's out of San Francisco.
And then we have a Gen X donation.
Says very carefully, it's from Recalcitrant Steve, our

(02:31:15):
buddy.
Crazy Steve.
Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve.
Crazy Steve, yeah.
He was there, of course.
And so it was, also I got a
toy ounce, I think it's from the Duke
of San Francisco.
He never leaves a note or anything, he
just drops off a coin.
Silver?
Yeah.
But it's not the, it's one of the
ones that's got the Indian head on it.
It's a beautiful piece of work.

(02:31:36):
Another collectible.
Well, you know, an ounce.
Then I got this from, this is Sufina,
or Shufina English, who wrote this very nice
note.
And she was there, and she was a
great looking gal, I would say.
She's probably, I don't know, you couldn't tell

(02:31:56):
her age.
She could have been between 45 and 55
or so.
But she's one of these people, the note
came in, she dropped off, it was only
50, but she dropped off a note that
is on Queen Mary II, the boat's letterhead.
Wow, nice.
And if you look, and she's one of
those people, I mean, I don't like to
generalize, but I will, because I always do

(02:32:18):
it.
You look at her, and she looks like
one of these people that are travelers, that
have been everywhere, because her style and everything,
it's not European, it's international.
And she just pushed that out, as she's
obviously been around the world.

(02:32:40):
Even though it's sometimes a tough go with
value for value, and people are yelling at
me on X about you, we do have
some of the most interesting people in the
entire universe who are in Gitmo Nation.
I never cease to be amazed by the
talents and the experience that some people have,

(02:33:03):
that many people have.
It's just, I feel better already.
$100 last on this list here is from
Nis Jobz Karma.
You can do that if you want.
This is for Gia Como out of Crockett,
California.
Yeah, well, yes, there's a note.
Yeah, the note just says, from, you know,

(02:33:24):
it's just $100, Jobz Karma, please.
Thank you for four more years.
You show up to a meetup, you get
it.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You thought.
Not messing around.
Not messing around.
And that's the basic over $50 from, in
fact, that was it.
There was nothing under $50.
It's kind of screwy.

(02:33:45):
Well, thank you all very much.
Those of you went to the meetup and
got John out of the house.
I haven't seen any pictures.
I'd love to see some pictures.
People send me pictures.
Luckily, there was no pictures taken, but I
do have this note, which I belabor the
point.
Extra note, yes.
This is for John.
One of the guys that showed up for
the first time, he says, his son of
Jupiter reveals no agenda meetup in Berkeley.

(02:34:06):
This guy's from someplace else.
And he's, this is, it was sent to
Jay from Stephen.
Okay.
And he goes, there was only one and
only John C.
Dvorak had to go see him.
The Berkeley meetup hosted by Steve was an
absolute blast.
There was about 40 people there.
It was crowded.
Oh, good.
And so he goes on and on and
on discussing this.

(02:34:26):
But no note would be complete without mentioning
the man of the hour, Dvorak.
I'd like to say we all had a
great time.
This is gonna be a bone of contention,
by the way.
We had a great time meeting John, but
from my perspective, he seemed to be a
recluse sitting in a corner of the table,
a table.

(02:34:47):
It was in the, it was in the
middle of everything, but okay.
But to my knowledge, he didn't say anything
to the crowd or thank the listeners.
Oh, you have to stand up and do
a speech.
You don't do that at your meetups?
Like, hello, everybody.
I'm John.
This is a public bar.
Hello.
Because I've seen people do this in public

(02:35:08):
bars and what do you say when you,
what do you think to yourself when you
see this?
You go, who is this asshole?
What people don't know is that John is
actually quite shy.
It's okay for me- Yeah, that's right.
It's okay for me to say that.
John is actually quite shy.
Shy, I think, is the right term.
You're not a recluse.
You're not introverted.

(02:35:29):
You're a little shy.
Well, I'm not gregarious as I could be.
So really, girls, you gotta go cozy up
to him.
He likes- He seemed to be a
recluse, sitting in the corner of the table,
safely away from everybody.
And he goes on, he says, and talking
to his son.
Now, I will tell you this.

(02:35:50):
I was sitting next to, actually, Matt the
Inventor was there with his, I would say,
gorgeous, tall fiancee, girlfriend, Paige.
I was talking to her.
Now, she doesn't look like my son, I
can assure you.
Oh, yeah.
But the other thing is- By the
way, if you wanna get John talking, bring

(02:36:12):
a hot-looking woman.
Then JC will talk for hours.
That JC, my son, wasn't even at the
meetup.
Oh, details.
So I have no idea what this guy's
talking about.
And why wasn't JC there?
This is an outrage.
Oh, he had something to do.
Did Jay come?
There was no desire to get a meetup
report with John or even a group of

(02:36:33):
photos.
Oh, no.
Nobody asked.
I have had my photo taken at these
meetups quite a few times.
I don't like it.
Additionally, I noticed that John had a Costco
-sized jar of cashews, which one of our
blind knight dropped off, saying it might be
a good tip of the day.
And I was going to distribute these and
have people describe them, but it was sealed.

(02:36:54):
So I didn't wanna open the seal.
On the table, someone might have gifted them
to him, of course, but they weren't being
offered out to anyone.
Oh, this is an outrage.
You weren't sharing your bounty.
Then after two hours, that says I was
there that long, I overheard while he was
leaving that John wasn't feeling well.

(02:37:16):
I don't know where he heard that from.
If that's the case, please disregard this message
above.
Okay, I was sick.
And I hope you feel better.
So this is a mismatch of reality, as
there ever was.
The only thing wrong with this note is
it wasn't sent to me, that it was
my fault.
Otherwise, perfect note.
I'm surprised it was sent to me, actually.

(02:37:38):
Thank you to these executive and associate executive
producers, and to the producers who came to
the meetup to get John out of the
house.
That is highly appreciated.
It's good for him, too.
We'll be thanking the rest of our supporters,
$50 and above.
Remember, you can always support us, and you
should, because we do this as a public
service, and it's your job to keep the
public service going.

(02:38:00):
Knowagendadonations.com, you can go there, you can
give us any amount, anytime you feel like
it.
That's how value for value works.
You get something out of it that is
of value to you.
Send it back.
Value.
Knowagendadonations.com.
Congratulations to the executive and associate executive producers.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the
mouth.

(02:38:22):
Milk.
Water.
Order.
Get choked.
Shut up.
Stay safe.
So we were talking about it.
We might as well bring in the alpha
-gal syndrome.
This is the lone star tick that has
now claimed its first victim.

(02:38:43):
We have a dead person from alpha-gal
syndrome.
However, the reason for this is not some
bio lab in Maryland or maybe even, what
was that, what was the name of that?
Fort Detrick.
No, no, Fort Detrick, but then- Plum
Island.
Plum Island in New York.
No, no, the reason for this scourge is

(02:39:05):
something you might not expect.
This morning, a New Jersey man is the
first known person to die after a tick
bite triggered a severe meat allergy.
This is really something that people should be
aware of and physicians should be aware of.
The 47-year-old went camping with his
family in 2024 and got violently ill after
eating a steak.

(02:39:26):
He recovered, but two weeks later, he ate
a hamburger and again, got very sick, then
died.
The autopsy said his death was unexplained.
Then his wife had his blood tested at
the University of Virginia, where researchers determined he
had an allergy called alpha-gal syndrome caused
by the bite of the lone star tick.

(02:39:46):
What happens is people develop a hypersensitivity or
an allergy to this carbohydrate that is found
in animal meat.
And what triggers this hypersensitivity or this allergy,
so to speak, is a bite from the
lone star tick.
Lone star ticks are mainly found in the
Northeast, South, and Midwest.

(02:40:08):
They have a white dot, or lone star,
on their back.
Tick populations in general have been on the
rise and are spreading to more of the
U.S. One factor?
Climate change.
Due to climate change.
Finally.
That was a shaggy dog story.
Finally, we got one.
Finally.
I'm sick of this.
I would like somebody to explain to me

(02:40:29):
how this works.
I want somebody to explain.
There must be some expert out there.
How does this happen?
This is the screwiest thing I've ever heard.
By the way, you get this disease or
syndrome or whatever you wanna call it, condition,
where you're allergic to this carb or some

(02:40:50):
protein.
Yeah.
All mammalians.
If you eat possum, you're gonna get sick.
If you eat beef, you're gonna get sick.
Anything that's a...
Well, because alpha-gal is also included.
Oh, no, wait a minute, wait.
Possums are marsupials.
I'm not sure you would get sick from
possum meat.
Oh, well, then that's a bonus.
It's only mammalian meat.

(02:41:11):
That's a bonus.
Alpha-gal.
So if you eat a beaver.
Yeah, you're fine.
And heaven forbid we've all done that.
I'm sorry, that was bad.
Wow, very lowbrow, very lowbrow.
No, that was terrible.
I wasn't presenting.
You know what?
If it had been presented with a...
That's Marty level.
That was lowbrow.
No, well...

(02:41:31):
Yeah, it was, yeah, it was.
Maybe.
It was just not, it was uncalled for.
The point is, is that mammalian meat, what?
This makes no sense to me.
A tick bite, and the next thing you
know, you can't eat, you know, you can
eat mice, I guess.
We've already been through this.
This is alpha-gal is included in some
vaccines.

(02:41:51):
And I'm pretty sure that it's from the
vaccines.
I mean, I'm not a doctor.
So I'm just guessing, ultimately.
Well, that brings me to this clip.
Because this irks me too, about, this is
Pakistan diabetes.
Okay, here we go.
This is the BBC World Service with Lubna

(02:42:11):
Care, exploring Pakistan's diabetes crisis.
Was this while you were asleep?
This clip got recorded from the BBC World
Service.
I'm a British Pakistani pharmacist, and also an
actor, writer, and comedian.
In Pakistan, diabetes isn't just a medical condition,
it's a national crisis.
There's a lack of awareness.

(02:42:32):
There's low health literacy.
Public hospitals are stretched.
Pakistan's diabetes surge is fueled by urbanization, processed
foods, high in refined sugars, and increasingly sedentary
lifestyles.
I had a client, eight years old, and
he used to play cricket on the tab.
He doesn't know that he can play that

(02:42:52):
cricket outside in the ground.
If this is not addressed, then this will
be a crisis beyond what we can imagine
over the next decade.
Diabetes in Pakistan, a nation's struggle.
Another riveting BBC World report.
So, we now know that they're having an
epidemic of diabetes in Pakistan.

(02:43:13):
We have diabetes in like two-thirds of
the public here.
Why can't they fix this issue?
Is it just refined sugars?
Ban them.
We have a health system that's, why don't
we just make it illegal?
Find out what's causing it.
You know what's happening here, what's happening there.
Why is it happening in Pakistan?
Because of sedentary lifestyles, all of a sudden

(02:43:35):
it doesn't make a lot of sense.
But then they blame it on sugars or
processed food.
Make them illegal.
Why can't they do that?
They don't want to do it.
And the same thing with this alpha gal.
Figure out, this makes no sense that this
disease exists.
It's the stupidest disease you can imagine.
Or my wife with her wheat thing.
She can't eat anything that's from any grains

(02:43:57):
now.
Yeah, that's a weird one.
And it sucks.
You can't even take her out anymore.
Well, it saves, it's good for the budget.
Yeah, but it's not fun for her.
No, well, she has to find places where
they're very careful.
It's the point, this is how bad it
is.
And this is all these things, by the

(02:44:17):
way.
Not just this wheat deal.
But they find that if somebody's cut bread
on one of those slicers and they cut
meat on it.
Just that alone?
Right, at the granular level.
Wow.
A crumb.
And so, but it's the same thing with
these other problems that humans have.

(02:44:39):
And it makes no sense that they can't
just do an analysis and say, well, this
is what's causing it.
This is what you can do to correct
it.
And now we're good to go.
They don't bother.
Well, because for diabetes it's profitable.
I mean, obviously.
Oh yeah, it's a moneymaker.
Yeah, the reason, of course, is.
They're eating the dogs.

(02:44:59):
That's where it all comes from.
Stop eating the dogs.
Well, then you'll love this little ditty from
CBS F the Nation with Senator Bill Cassidy.
F the Nation.
This is another one you'll gripe about.
Secretary Kennedy has this handpicked panel of vaccine

(02:45:21):
advisors, you know them at ACIP.
They're gonna meet in a few days and
potentially vote on changing the hepatitis B vaccine
schedule for infants.
That same vaccine advisory group is also considering
the safety of vaccine ingredients like aluminum, which
would impact a number of childhood shots.

(02:45:41):
This should matter for American parents.
Are you comfortable with what they are about
to put to a vote?
I'm very concerned about this.
As it turns out, my medical practice focused
on hepatitis B.
And so we know that because of a
recommended dose at birth of hepatitis B vaccine,
recommended, not mandated, the number of children born

(02:46:02):
contracting hepatitis B at birth or shortly thereafter
has decreased from about 20,000 20 years
ago to like 200 now.
That's 20, effectively a clerical error.
We have decreased- Hold on a second.
He said the number of children born, which
is before they get the hepatitis B vaccine.
Let me listen to that again.

(02:46:22):
And so we know that because of a
recommended dose at birth of hepatitis B vaccine,
recommended, not mandated, the number of children born
contracting hepatitis B at birth or shortly thereafter
has decreased from about 20,000 20 years
ago to like 200 now.
That's 20, effectively a clerical error.
We have decreased the incidence of chronic hepatitis

(02:46:45):
B by 20,000 people over the last
two decades with this kind of recommendation.
And by the way, if you're infected at
birth, you're 95% likely to become a
chronic carrier.
The vaccine is safe.
It has been established.
And these ingredients they're speaking of have been
shown to be safe.
This is policy by people who don't understand

(02:47:07):
the epidemiology of hepatitis B or who've grown
comfortable with the fact that we've been so
successful with our recommendation that now the incidence
of hepatitis B is so low, they feel
like we can rest on our laurels.
I'm a doctor.
I have seen people die from vaccine-preventable
disease.
I want people to be healthy.
I want to make America healthy.
And you don't start by stopping recommendations that

(02:47:29):
have made us substantially healthier.
All right, how do you feel about that?
This guy is the stooge for the vaccine
industry.
He's always throwing out, I'm a doctor, I'm
a doctor.
And then he goes on and on and
condemns everyone.
He's the one who threatened Kennedy.
He says, you have to promise me that

(02:47:51):
you won't do this and that.
And it was always about vaccines.
This guy's a vaccine nut.
Here's Margaret Brennan asking if she regrets endorsing
him.
But that's why clarifying these statements, I think,
is important, since you interpret them differently.
I wonder, do you regret your confirmation vote

(02:48:12):
for Secretary Kennedy?
I smile because every reporter asked me that.
Well, because these questions run right into a
pledge that you extracted from him not to
tinker with some of the structures that were
set in place to have oversight of these
vaccines and this process.
Yes, so you live life forward.

(02:48:33):
Again, you just do.
Let today's own troubles be sufficient for the
day.
And I'll credit the Secretary.
He's brought attention to things like ultra-processed
food that has, frankly, never received this sort
of attention before.
And people praise him for that.
So he and I have publicly disagreed on
some matters, but I strongly agree with him
on others.
And so that's how I'll answer your question.

(02:48:54):
That sounds like yes.
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't at all.
It doesn't sound like yes at all.
She's terrible.
Yes, she is.
Is she even a journalist of any sort?
She's the worst.
I have a couple of- She used
to be on the Today Show or the
Morning Show, the CBS or NBC, I can't

(02:49:16):
remember which one, but it was the CBS
show.
And she used to be one of the
hosts there.
And every time Trump's name would, she's a
pretty woman, and she, but she's got the
world, she really looks, she makes herself look
ugly by scowling.
And she would always scowl.
And when somebody mentioned Trump or the Republicans,
we mentioned Republicans, she's scowl.

(02:49:39):
Yeah, she's a scowler.
And then when I saw her during the
COVID era, I mentioned this on the show,
she was in her house.
Yeah.
In somebody's interview.
And I didn't realize it.
She had a hairband on the hair thing
over the top of her head.
And she was a dead ringer for Hillary,
a younger Hillary.
Oh, that's right.
She's a Hillary Clinton clone.
Yeah, that's right.

(02:49:59):
Well, she did look kind of cute with
a hairband.
No, she didn't.
She didn't.
So I'm going to save my Margaret clips
with the Secretary of the Army, which is
about drones, which is a fantastic little series
because this is exactly what my insider from
the Department of War told me what they
were working on.
And it's all, but it's like four clips,

(02:50:22):
and I'm looking at the time, and I
think that we should probably get ready to
go because we still have tip of the
day.
We've got to end the show mixes, but
I did want to play one last clip
as the AI industry has now gone lower
than they could have ever gone.
The lowest of the low.
Once we've addicted people to these chat bots

(02:50:45):
and we've got kids, you know, killing themselves
over what the chat bot told them to
do.
Here we go.
These seniors are learning about artificial intelligence and
interacting with it in a whole new way.
AI is the most accessible technology that's really
ever been created.
Jacob Catalano, a former product designer at Snapchat,
has created a user-friendly AI service for

(02:51:08):
seniors called Cella Foster.
She's not going to judge you.
She's not going to, you know, run out
of time or lose patience.
I'm going to go out today.
Do I need a jacket or anything like
that?
Right now in Santa Monica, it's clear at
about 60 degrees Fahrenheit.
A light jacket might be a good idea.
Unlike chat bots where you have to type
in questions, Stella lets you call a phone

(02:51:29):
number and talk to AI directly.
It can even remember details about you, making
interactions personalized.
So it opens up a whole new audience
that might've been shut out from technology over
the last decade, two decades.
Humans talk and they text and that's what
AI is.
So if you can do that, you can
use AI.
AI is very knowledgeable and you can use

(02:51:51):
it to do better things in life.
I'm a writer and an artist and I'll
be using it for my writing, I'm sure.
I think AI sounds great.
I think it's something that seniors could definitely
use and benefit from.
Stella Foster lets users chat for free on

(02:52:12):
the phone for an hour each day.
If you want more, it's $30 a month.
There are no limits on texting.
Oh man, this is so, like they're so
hard up for customers.
Let's get the old people.
30 bucks a month from your pension.
And you know these people are gonna be
on the phone with it the whole day.

(02:52:32):
Oh yeah.
Until it says, you know what?
You should probably just kill yourself.
Yeah, that's the problem with these AI systems.
They're sick.
They wind up telling you to kill yourself.
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Was it really the lowest ever?
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(02:59:47):
You want to be where you want to
be.
Drink it or have a flame.
You want to be where everybody feels the
same.
It's like a party.
John's tip of the day is coming up,
and we have some bangers of end-of
-show mixes for you, including the latest for
our No Agenda the Musical.
But before we do that, we'd like to

(03:00:08):
check out some ISOs that we'll play at
the very end of the show, which is
part of how the sausage is made.
Do you have one here that is seven
seconds long?
That can't be right.
I'll pick it up where I think it
should be.
Let me check this out.
Wow, this show should be in the Smithsonian.

(03:00:28):
What was the full thing, actually?
Oh, that was your first prompt.
You forgot to remove the first prompt and
just leave the second one in.
That's not bad.
I like it.
Here's your second one.
Yuppers, best podcast in the universe.
No, no, that's not Yuppers.

(03:00:49):
I'm liking the other one better.
But let me try mine.
I'm having so much fun right now.
You couldn't even understand it, could you?
No, and it's like, what was the point?
No, because we're ending the show.
We're not having fun.
Here we go.
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard in
my life.
No, I think yours wins.
Let me play it one more time.

(03:01:11):
As should that model from the LLM.
Hey, everybody, it's Cypher John, tip of the
day.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with JCB.
And sometimes Adam.
Which brings me to a complaint.
Uh-oh.
So you said that model, you know, and

(03:01:31):
it's a cute one, that voice.
Because she does something, I don't know what
their voice, but.
The cheap bastards at 11 Labs, you know,
they keep, they take my voices away and
they give me these, I can't get the
voices I want to use back.
Oh, you've used them too many times.
And they had like, I had 10 that
I could select from and now I got

(03:01:52):
three, take it or leave it.
They keep doing this and they keep changing
stuff.
Oh, that sucks.
They want me to pay.
Well, of course they want you to pay.
If you pay, then you get to, here,
I got my voice.
No, no, if I pay, I know there's
all these things I can do, but I
don't, I don't feel, I don't want to

(03:02:12):
pay.
Yeah, I sampled my voice.
You paid?
How much did you pay?
I don't know.
It's too much.
Yeah, it's too much.
Let me see what this is.
Let me see how this works out today.
Let me see if it's working.
John is mean to me.
It doesn't even sound like me.
Let me try this one.
John is mean to me.
He sounds just like you.

(03:02:33):
Really?
Yeah.
No, let me see.
Yeah, in fact, when you, when you segue
back to your own voice, it sounded like
the same guy.
Really?
You thought it sounded like me?
Yeah, I think it sounds exactly like you.
It doesn't have quite the intonation, but it's
not bad.
Let me try this one.
Let me see if this one works better.
Hold on.
Now it's time for the tip of day.

(03:02:53):
Tip of day?
Tip of day?
That was my mistake.
Tip of day.
But when you do your own voice, you
can do other stuff.
Now it's time for the tip of the
day.
That sounds like me.
It even has my echo in my room.
day.
But you can also do something like, you

(03:03:13):
can tell it to be sexy.
You know, I think there's something fascinating about
the fact that instead of sampling like Clinton
or the president or something you can use,
this is like the vanity search.
Let me just clone my own voice.
I'm going to tell you something.
You have that voice already.
You don't understand.
I don't want to have to work.

(03:03:34):
I just want to have an AI that
talks to you and keeps you busy for
three and a half hours twice a day.
Well, it'd be interesting to try, but it's
going to be dull.
Here, listen to this.
day.
You should pay for this stuff, man.
I like the way you amuse yourself by

(03:03:56):
sampling yourself.
This is all intended for me to just
be able to not get up at 5
a.m. on Sundays.
That's all that this is about, just once
a week have AI Adam do the show
with you.
I'm building this whole system.
Well, good for you.
It won't work because it cannot interact.

(03:04:16):
It can be mean to you.
Well, no, but it can't interact.
Yeah, not yet.
This is just the first inning, John.
Don't you know that AI is the future?
Tip of the day.
I gave this tip out in one of
the shows before tip of the day existed.

(03:04:36):
I want to make it official to put
it in the list so when you go
to noagendafund.com you find it.
Okay.
I looked there.
I couldn't find it.
They didn't even pick it up because they
pick up a lot of stuff.
Like if you say you like a book,
boom, it'll be in there.
But it's not tip of the day, but
they have all these things that we've ever,
everything we've ever suggested in terms of gigawatt

(03:04:58):
coffee and the rest of it.
This is the Bow Shield T9 from Boeing
Aircraft Company.
Uh-huh.
This is a substitute for Ranch Hand, which
is my all-time favorite substitute for WD
-40.
It's just better.
Yeah.
And this is the Boeing version of WD

(03:05:19):
-40 that's better, and it came as a
tip from one of our producers who said,
you know, tip of the day you should
do this, and he went on a long
exposition on why he loves this stuff.
He's a mechanic.
And I said, well, you know, I think
we talked about it already, and we did,
I'm sure, although I couldn't find any evidence
of it.
What's it called again?
Bow Shield, B-O-E Shield T9.

(03:05:42):
Bow Shield T9.
Okay.
And it is a cheap-looking can, and
it says from Boeing, it says at the
bottom, developed by the Boeing Corporation.
So it's used for, it's a lubricant, it's
a degreaser, it's a deruster.

(03:06:07):
It does everything WD-40 does, only it
does it better.
And it's also good like a liquid bearings.
It's good for getting something that's squeaky that
will eliminate it in no time.
Like your chair?
It would do the chair.
Yeah.
The problem is you have to be careful
with this and the wrench hand and all
of these things if it gets on the

(03:06:29):
floor.
Oh, because you cannot, you can't pick it
up.
You can't.
Oh, you know what?
You did do this on August 1, 2024.
Yeah, it was pre-tip of the day,
though.
It wasn't tip of the day.
It wasn't official.
I, you know, this is the one that
I wanted to plug some time ago, and
I came up with liquid bearing, which was

(03:06:49):
the second to it.
This is called Bow Shield T9.
This is a...
This is, this was tip of the day.
I can't find it on the website.
Well, then, I mean, I can just play
this for you if you want to do
it.
You're saying exactly the same thing, which is
kind of amazing.

(03:07:10):
I'm pretty consistent the way I present.
You're a consistent dude.
All right, continue with your Bow Shield T9.
Don't get any of these products on the
floor.
No.
You can't.
If you try to rub it off like
you take a towel and get it off,
it just spreads it, and you end up
with a part of the floor that's so
slippery that you'll kill yourself.

(03:07:30):
You have to get out a bunch of
detergent, and you've got to get this stuff
wiped up.
It's just horrible in that regard.
And so it's hard to just spray on
something because if there's a floor, and it
drips down there, you know, you're pretty...
Well, to be honest, now, what kind of
disbursement mechanism does it have?
Does it have, like, the straw that WD
-40 has?
It has the straw, but I never use

(03:07:52):
the straw.
I always use the straw.
I love the straw on the WD-40.
The problem is if you...
Don't use WD-40.
Use Ranch Handle T9.
Well, but here's what I'm worried about, because
when you spray it into hinges on the
door, that's where I typically wind up using
it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If that gets on the door, it's very
hard to get off the door.

(03:08:12):
And I'm sure the same with this Bowflex
T9 stuff.
Bowflex.
T9.
Whatever it's called.
I'm sure it's hard to get off.
I mean, you've got to be careful with
this stuff.
You know, we need lessons in how to
apply it.
That would be a good tip of the
day.
Well, that's why I like liquid bearing so
much, because it's not in a spray can.

(03:08:34):
It's in a little plastic thing with a
very fine point, a little dropper, and so
you get what you can get.
That's what's great for hinges.
One drop.
You can get one drop right where you
want it, and then it'll spread itself throughout.
It's great for locks.
But let's be honest.
Oh, locks is another one.
Let's be honest.
These are great American inventions.

(03:08:57):
And they're needed.
And you don't...
You can't go into Europe and buy any
of this.
They don't have this in Europe.
If you say WD-40, they're like, what?
You say Ranch Hand, they're like, what?
You say Bowflex T9, they're like, what?
Bow Shield.
Bow Shield T9.
Now, this is unknown in Europe.
I wonder if you can even ship it
to Europe.
It's probably illegal.

(03:09:19):
Well, I have no knowledge of this one
way or the other.
Okay.
I mean, I go shopping when I'm in
Europe.
I go to this, you know, like that
huge store.
When's the last time you were in Europe?
2017.
Yeah, it's a while ago.
Yeah, it's just a bit.
And I'm not going now.

(03:09:40):
And that, ladies and gentlemen, in a reprise,
but well worth it, is John C.
Dvorak's Tip of the Day.
Find them all at tipoftheday.net.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with JCB.
And sometimes Adam.
Created by Dana Brunetti.
They need a lot of lube in Europe,

(03:10:01):
so I'm just saying.
Could be good for them.
Could be a good thing.
By the way, of all these things, I
still think that little bottle of liquid bearings
is the best.
It's the best.
Coming up next on your No Agenda stream,
Homegrown Hits.
The ladies will bring you the latest value
for value music.
It's a great show.
It's streaming for you on noagendastream.com.

(03:10:25):
And before that, we do have some end
of show mixes.
B-dubs and D's Laughs with O.G.,
non-A.I. However, Will Treese comes in
with a beautiful A.I. Slop.
In fact, it is the A.I. Slop
Orchestra.
And you can listen to all of those
at gitmojams.com.
24-7, baby.

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DeVry.
We'll be back on Thursday.
Please join us for more than three hours

(03:11:10):
of media deconstruction from home and abroad.
Until then, remember us at noagendadonations.com.
Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and
such.
Thanks, Obama.

(03:11:30):
You love to techno stuff.
You love to techno stuff.
I do.
I do.
I do.
Would you go to, like, a concert by
Tiesto?
No.
No.

(03:11:51):
I could get you.
I could get you up on the DJ
booth.
Yeah, I don't know.

(03:13:11):
Her English is worse off now, someone check
if there's a connect between her and Chairman
Mao What really happened after Jack Layton, she
changed her accent Code switching not hated, but
we need explaining 416-905-647-289, area
codes in the 6 to me and to
you They just rhyme, bikes on sidewalks more

(03:13:31):
than streets Oven mitts and Uber Eats, Punjabis
and Sikhs who did this to us Well
the elites, 2SLGBQ+, let's just say they're
not like us Watching city council meetings on
YouTube, they were sucks Protests all day and
all night, citizens put up a fight Trucker
protests at Queens Park, I was there it
just felt right T-O-R-O-N

(03:13:51):
-T-O, it's the place I've come to
know It's the place I wanna leave, it's
the place you wanna go T, the O,
the R, the O, the N, place the
T You're mean to John,
why must you be mean to John Gee

(03:14:18):
Adam, can't you see You love to see
him crying with each show You call him
Boomer and say he's old Afterwards he's left
alone singing the blues and sighing You treat

(03:14:41):
him coldly each show of the year You
always scold him whenever the trollers are near
Why it must be great fun to be
mean to John Gee Adam, can't you see

(03:15:06):
You just love seeing me The best
podcast in the universe Adios, mofo Dvorak.org
slash N-A Wow, this show should be

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